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Infra Arcana 18.2 released: https://sites.google.com/site/infraarcana/downloads
Release Notes: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/martin-tornqvist/ia/v18.2/assets/release_history.txt

New Demon Release introduces Relic upgrades: http://demon.ferretdev.org/devblog/71-upgrade-complete/

Poschengband 5.0.0 released (breaks save compatibility!)
http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showpost.php?p=111423&postcount=233

Vanilla Angband Comp(until July 6)
Elf Warrior with a permacursed Deathwreaker:
http://angband.oook.cz/competition.php

>FAQ and What to Play
FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to Play?: http://pastebin.com/yfUKx35f

>Webterminal
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm online with shared map and tons of other roguelikes in a simple online package! (USA Only)
http://roguenex.us

>Individual Game Pastas
http://pastebin.com/pkf1qnuZ

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>>147175715
Last for Chei!
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Where can I watch someone play roguelikes?
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>>147273203
'go 'za
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>>147273070
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this guy comes up and smacks your mounts ass
what do you do
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>>147273521
this kills the snail
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>>147273203
Any DCSS server
NAO
ascension.run
slashem.me
termcast.org
YouTube.
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>>147273615
no anon
it's the other way around
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>>147273593
Ride him instead.
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>>147273593
Edit the source code so he has only 1 hp.
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>>147273593
What is the worst thing this is capable of? Hand of doom?
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>>147273991
Time stop followed by various unpleasantness.

Of course most of the time it will just bumble around and do nothing much since its spell list is so huge.
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How the hell am I supposed to go through cloud of foul pestilence generators in dungeon sprint ?
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>>147273991
Time stop, then mana storms/water balls during? Probably something like that.
The thing is that it has so many spells it will almost never cast its good ones.
I have had it stop time just to cast blind and move a bit.
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>>147274349
Quickly.
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>>147274180
good font.
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I miss the all caps text while Frenzied in IA. It was funny.
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>>147273593
What game is that?
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>>147275301
The one where all high-level stat blocks look like pride parade.

Should be renamed to prideband or faband.
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>>147275301
PozChengband
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>>147275394
> Faband
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>>147275487
Why would anybody keep trying to force their "I'm a genius lol" meme spelling so hard?
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>>147274987
it's gone? :( I was amused by it too
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>>147276731
Maybe because he's right in implying that the game is AIDS.
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>>147277000
checked and lost the game
LOL
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Nice OP image. I'd buy you a beer, OP.
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So, started my first game of poschengband. (I always like to jump on ... bandwagons).

What are virtues? I dug out some treasure and now im somewhat virtous in diligence... I have no idea what it means.
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>>147279627
>...
Fuck off.
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>>147279627
>What are virtues?
Bloat.
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Making special attacks is pretty fun
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>>147279627
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>>147279627
AAAARRRGGGHHH !!!
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>>147279627
You are straying from path of /rlg/.
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>* Messages are no longer written in all capitals while Frenzied
Literally (unfiguratively) no fun allowed.
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>>147274987
>>147276845
>>147281731
This and the removal of the @ exploding into loot like an Angband Wyrm on death are very bad changes imo.

MARTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
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>>147281360
Wtf did I do wrong?
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>>147281939
Correct sad gattsu, bursting into treats upon death was great.
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>>147282116
whoa.....
i always knew those
dogs were danderous....
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>>147282468
>>>/sbahj/
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>>147283239
kinda really makes u think huh
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>>147265921
Nah man I still think the most bullshit exp penalty is for balance drakes who are by far the worst dragons in the game. They are negative in every stat bar strength which they are +0 in, have the lowest life rating among dragons along with ethereal and shadow but at least those 2 get passwall, and the only skills balances are good at is device which isn't excellent like most other dragons. The only upside they have is their resists which are sound, shards, chaos, and disenchantment but what does that matter when you're literal dogshit at basically everything. I actually think they're hands down the worst fucking race in the game. Chris really, really dropped the ball there.
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>>147284165
Yeah, if you look at all the goodies shadow drakes get, balance and ethereal look pretty awful.

I guess you could use the resists and make a device dragon to ignore the poor melee and breath, but I can only assume a craft balance drake is very very bad at everything until you somehow get your rockets going.
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How does the resonance cascade chamber look like in Cata im 3 levels down into the Lab and fought about 10 manhacks and a couple of zombie scientist and found abominations in cages. Also can there be more than one "ending chamber" per "dungeon" I wanted some good CBMs or super weapons
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>reload Dungeonmans to see if it's not shit anymore
>hours of slogging through trivial trash fights
>suddenly get one-shot by some monstrosity that was hiding in a chest
commercial roguelikes, not even once
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>>147284165
What game is this?
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>>147286081
not even worth it
if you're trying to actually win the game and have fun you should only be playing red, white, crystal, steel, and law, all melee except for law who you should be playing the really strong and fun crusade realm
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>>147288304
Pozchengband
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>>147288649
>sum -5 stats
>300% XP
O i am kek'in
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>>147289045
>>147288649
Can he at least fly or trample or some shit?
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Finally, I don't even know why I bothered but I can finally stop. I just have to live through the rest of this zig. Then I can stop playing I can never stop playing
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>>147289224
Lv intrinsic is basically worthless in PCB.
>Trample
No.
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>>147289045
I seriously don't understand how Chris can perform mental gymnastics and then look at that shit and say "Oh yeah this looks GREAT" he's so fucking awful as a developer it's cringe-inducing.
>>147289224
All dragons (even babbys) get innate flying but there is no trampling. All dragons get a "realm" of your choosing and it would seem like melee would get a trample but all they get of note is a detection spell and some brands and modifiers for their teeth and claws.
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>>147289378
Well, it matters more when you have weird slots (especially no boots) since you need it to access a few midgame dungeons.

But every dragon flies so balance has no advantage here.
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>>147289554
Nah, Chris is great at a lot of things. Balancing PCB is basically and impossible task and he has to play a character pretty far to fully evaluate what it needs. Some changes are bad, some are good. It happens.
Chris' main problem as a dev is that he likes grinding too much.
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>>147289821
>Chris' main problem as a dev is that he likes grinding too much.
I think he's awful just for that reason along with he's the type of person who is unpredictable and pulls random shit out of their asses but they do this so much they become predictable. I just want to know what his deal is with shitty bloat races. I think some anon posted a while ago about how PCB is famous for it's wide berth of race/class selections but only a few are actually viable and the rest are gimped by Chris himself and those fucking penalties. Also I loved how he got buttmad about 555 because people didn't want to put up with that garbage. How does he not realize everyone doesn't want to grind forever and then die to some random fuckery that PCB is infamous for? I don't really think it's "impossible" to balance PCB.
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>>147289249
Why
How did you not get bored?
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>>147289249
>zigposting
Enjoy your fucking ban, degenerate.
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>>147290326
>I don't really think it's "impossible" to balance PCB.
Give us some ideas.
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>>147290326
I think you are being seriously overdramatic.
There are quite a few easily doable improvements in my opinion(id drop XP mods from 50-425 total to 50-200 total) and fix up the starting items/quest rewards to be less shit, but a lot of what Chris does is great. (By god the new monster recall and item power printouts!)
555 is totally unnecessary and it is a good thing that it was fixed. The game definitely needs more tweaks to allocation and the way leveling works, but I think Chris makes this game for himself and you can't really fault him on that.
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>>147290980
Have shops scale what they sell with your level (so temple and stuff can uncommonly sell healing and *healing* so you don't have to play the grind game), nerf breaths so they don't do so much damage, lower exp penalties for lots of races and classes, and make fewer enemies be able to summon. There you go, I just solved lots of problems the game had.
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>>147289249
Were those potions of experience?
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>>147291443
>overdramatic
I don't think you know what that means. Those easily doable improvements are something he'll probably never implement himself. I think Chris is shit because of the previous and yes 555 was a bit of overkill but it was useful for the healing thing. I can definitely appreciate the idea behind new monster recall and item power stuff and I think they were great additions but at the end of the day the problems that I mentioned still exist. Maybe considering him outright "shit" is a little too harsh.
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damn. forgot minos could actually pose a threat.
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>>147291945
Their attacks do damage.
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>>147291945
This isn't PCB man
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>>147292026
i should have killed the dudes but i got killed by the dudes instead. i am fault.
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>>147291945
>mummy of Xom
well no shit, everything poses a threat
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Why does Enter the Gungeon have so many inputs

It's literally impossible to find a good setup for keyboard because the game wants you to manage weapons, use items, interactable objects, reloading, and blanks, but also demands full control over your movement at all times possible.

I can get almost everything in on a gamepad by putting reload on R3, but anything that isn't on the sticks or shoulder buttons might as well not even be there during the more involved firefights.
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>>147291753
How was I using overdramatic incorrectly? You yourself admitted that what you said might have been a little much.

And no, he probably won't change XP because he likes it the way he is.
I'm sure he could be convinced to change the quest rewards for a lot of stuff. Unfortunately it's impossible to contact him since he seems to live in a mining colony in fucking Antarctica.
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>>147291453
>Have shops scale what they sell with your level (so temple and stuff can uncommonly sell healing and *healing* so you don't have to play the grind game)
I have no idea how to accomplish this or I'd give it a shot.
>nerf breaths so they don't do so much damage
This is in principle easy enough to do I think, I've seen the formulas before but I don't recall offhand where they are. What do you think would be more reasonable for max damages, or would you want the scaling changed as well?
>lower exp penalties for lots of races and classes
I have already done this for myself but I hate shilling my own shit.
>and make fewer enemies be able to summon
You may be able to do this yourself by editing r_info.txt. I'm not sure if all monsters are covered in it though. Basing that idea on this commit: https://github.com/poschengband/poschengband/commit/aaf01a912284f2e5eeec6a55161b6b6ef0d074b0
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>>147288649
>balance drake
>probably the worst race in the game

heh
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>>147290326
>shitty bloat races
>bloat
>b l o a t

This isn't DCSS
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>>147292174
I thought you were using "overdramatic" as portraying me as massively asspained butthurt faggot.
>>147292254
I'd rather nerf the max damage as that shit can hit way too high especially if the monster decides to spam it.
>I have no idea how to accomplish this or I'd give it a shot.
Some anon posted the formula for lucky and acquirement and what it does in regards to your level so scaling is definitely possible but that was like 6 or 7 threads ago.
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>>147292597
>Some anon posted the formula for lucky and acquirement and what it does in regards to your level so scaling is definitely possible but that was like 6 or 7 threads ago.
That's floor drops, not shops. Shops have fixed lists (other than black market) afaik, I have no idea if scaling is even possible with those.
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>>147292831
I don't even know I've barely touched code ever.
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>>147292597
>>147292831
Yeah, it's not that simple. You would have to entirely rewrite the shop code (and probably write a bunch of new code to scale to level as opposed to dungeon depth).

On the other hand, changing breath damage caps, changing EXP modifiers, tweaking monster spell lists, and adding items to shop lists is incredibly easy.
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>>147293087
>and adding items to shop lists is incredibly easy.
pls tell me how to do this

I seriously don't even know where to begin to look for that shit and I've got a couple things I want to add.
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>>147293087
Great then, as long as he at least works on the code and adds all that stuff then I'm okay.
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Honestly I don't mind the exp penalties because to me the game gets a lot less fun once you hit level 50 and most monsters give you no benefit to killing them. Same reason I don't play androids.

I wish early game areas had better item drops, though, as it is you are encourage to skip as much of them as possible (or use the mechanics behind 555 to get better loot in the wilderness) since the way item level is calculated makes them low level for a long while.
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555?
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>mfw someone posted a nyaruko gif with a Lovecraft quote filename in the last thread
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What's the best build for killing Pan Lords in DCSS?
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>>147293168
Slap this flag onto the items you want.
Multiple flags are usually separated by |.
Make sure to re-run make install if you are self-compiling and installing.
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>>147294537
Fuck me.
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>>147294537
>>147294687
Given the changes in 5.0 that made it so the game no longer relies on raw files generated from those files, wouldn't it be possible to just edit and go?
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>>147294480
Melee, but that's the best build for killing anything.
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>>147294945
That's why I specified that you need to reinstall, but only if you actually installed pcb (i.e. you can run it by entering the command "poschengband" in any directory).
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>>147294338
Background info: when you kill a monster, its drops are calculated based on the average of its level and the dungeon level (plus some other other wiggling for "great" droppers and such, I think). The deepest dungeon before the post-game is level 100, for reference.

There's a spot on the world map where a post game dungeon appears that has level 555, so killing even d:1 trash would often drop items with depth more than twice what you could normally generate. This specific abuse was removed, but the idea still holds, so killing weak monsters in, say, level 60 wilderness could produce up to level 30 items, while killing the same junk in the orc caves would be more like d:12 items.

This didn't sound as autistic in my head
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>>147293860
how 2 get better loot in wilderness? i cant stand the early game grind.
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>>147295131
fwiw I'm on windows. Also, are you sure this is all that's needed? Looking through k_info.txt (which seems to be the right file) there are a bunch of food items at the top with that flag that I've never seen before so I have to wonder if something else is involved.

On top of that, my browsing just worked its way down to the devices section (which is what I'm after) and there's just a single entry each for wand, staff, and rod. I had attempted to add the _STOCK_TOWN flag to the effects I was after in devices.c already but that doesn't seem to have helped.
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>>147295370
You don't check the 1 shop very often probably.
Maybe post an image so I can see what you're talking about. I don't want to look through any more shitty code myself today.
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>>147295552
I've checked it every time I've been in town since recompiling with that change and have yet to see either of the two wands I attempted to add show up in it. I've considered testing by unflagging everything else but haven't actually tried that yet.
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>>147295749
Oh right the device ego change would totally fuck that up. I'll give it a test at some point this weekend and post in the thread if I have any success, assuming another anon does not do so first.
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If I ever find a way to free these two, would they fight each other?
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>>147297617
No. In fact, they'd both be hostile towards you only.
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>>147297671
Oh, well that sucks. You'd think the good and evil flags would make them hostile to one another. Whatever, should I make it that far i'll come back up to adopt TSO and free the angel after dumping okuwaru.
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>>147297798
Pretty sure he'll still be hostile. They removed angels being peaceful if you worship a good god.
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>>147297671
>>147297798
Flags are bloat.
AI is bloat.
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>>147297617
No. They both hate you more.
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>>147297889
thanks campbells
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>>147295203
Thanks!
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>>147297889
>Pretty sure he'll still be hostile. They removed angels being peaceful if you worship a good god.
What's even the fucking point.
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>>147298014
It made it too easy to get free holy pans.
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>>147297889
>when you find Mennas in Pan while you worship TSO and he sides with the demons to kill you
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>>147298075
but literally nothing in holy pans was dangerous anyways

besides that silver star fucker
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>>147295203
>555 removed

feel bad for the anon ITT who discovered it

did Chris at least make an alternative for getting decent loot/levels?
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>>147298479
Daeva's can really do a number in multiples. Silver stars were removed for being too bullshit. Its super awful if you're an undead too.
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are there any pornographic roguelikes
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>>147298909
Yes.
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>>147298909
Maiden Snow Eve.
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>>147299009
ok ty
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>>147290553
there are people on their 40th+ zig
i dont know why or how
the tedium was palpable simply watching
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>>147299047
You are welcome.
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>>147291945
>HIT by a rod of shadows !!
lmao
makes u think huh....
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As a FoFi is it worth keeping a wand of TP?
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>>147291945
>Bastard

We missed you and your antics.
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>>147299450
You can zap enemies with them. Potentially life saving.
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>>147299450
Yes. You can always use it on enemies.
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>>147299409
Is this some horrid new meme?
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>>147299501
i wished the minotaur missed me
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>>147299831
>7 EV
>Anything missing
You were bested by a tabstorm. Welcome back
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>>147299993
it's good to be back
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>>147299657
The crying with laughter emoji? Naw, that's been around forever.
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>>147299657
SMASH DAT MO'FUKKN TAB BUTTON, MY MAN
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>>147300650
"makes u think huh"
>>147299409
>>147283575
Hopefully it's just one guy though.
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>>147300763
WE REAL NIGGA HOURS
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Well you can now have it rain acid all damned day every day if you want.
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/17500
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>>147301364
Based Coolthulu. I feel like he lurks here.
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>>147301364
granade still works on DDA? damn
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>>147301536
Unfortunately, yes.
The wonder duo of Zombie and Granade remain with us to this day.
However they are dwarfed by the mugling and Coolthulhu team who actually do a lot of coding.
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Goddamn I fucking love Formicids
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>>147297893
>not just eliminating combat and misc. text entirely
numbers and dice rolls with stat bars only
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>>147302819
That could be cool. An RL with no messaging. You'd have to figure everything out on your own.
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>>147301364
There's still hope left in man.
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>>147302819
Dice rolls are bloat desu
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>>147302819
graphical interfaces and ASCII representations are bloat too desu senpai
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>>147303270
Yeah, the only interface you need is a core dump every turn and a hex editor!
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>>147303386
This sounds like it could be one of those niche art games like Else Heart.Break()
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>>147303487
or just a blank console that displays "you die" every so often
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>>147292545
A lot of combos in Poschengband haven't even been won. In fact, there are so many I'd say MOST haven't been won. And when you have so many monsters you're literally running out of letter-color combinations, leading to many of them looking the same, you have too many monsters
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>>147303831
Would anyone play this?
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>>147304385
yes i play DCSS
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>>147304385
You don't play anything. It's a screensaver.
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>>147303831
https://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm
Roll the d100, if you get 100 you win, otherwise you die.
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>>147304247
If you look back at chengband on the ladder, a lot of the seemingly crappy classes have been won or at least gotten a lot further than in pcb. Was the game easier then? I don't know anything about band history.
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Roguelike-flavored Cookie Clicker style game when?
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>>147299657
http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/press-releases/announcing-the-oxford-dictionaries-word-of-the-year-2015/
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I think I have a problem, or at least several problems.
Time to ascend and stop the madness.
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>>147307024
Is that a naga barding? Sheeeit.
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>>147307024
kek
you should see my museum and house in elona
i stopped trying to keep shit tidy
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>resting while recalling back to town
>nexus vortex breathes and swaps my dex with my int
At least I have a bit of +dex from gear so I don't actually have to melee with my new 10 base dex
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>>147301952
>You post here
What happened to your CPA my mang?
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That was a fun first day.
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>>147310659
what the h*ck happened?
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>>147310928
Burning Building start and a ridiculous amount of those W monsters (Fallout reference ones).
Luckily I got a scimitar from a pawnshop which helped a lot since the halligan bar was taking 300 to swing with all the pain. It's damaged now but at least I'm alive. Hopefully the mansion has enough food to last through my infection.
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>>147310659
>Infected
I hope you can fix that.
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>>147307024
Nice pile of worthless crap, bro.
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>>147309874
Fucking invincible that's what happened to it. I don't need crystal armour when I can cut the skin from a dragon and WEAR IT
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>>147314425
>wearing dragon foreskin
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This ally god is great.
>paralyses everything
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>>147317980
Hep is comfy as fuck, you get a permanent ally and it's pretty great at its job
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>>147281939
It seems like I have a tendency to misinterpret reactions such as
>Haha this game is so crazy, I love it

as:
>This game is fucking ridiculous

Anyway, personally I felt that the capitals where leaning more towards the ridiculous side.
In some cases, like for attack messages, it worked. But too often it was completely inappropriate, like "I SEARCH THE CABINET!!!", or "I CLOSE THE DOOR!!!".

I suppose it could be implemented so that only appropriate messages are written in capitals though (by an argument to the message function).
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>>147318981
Allcaps all the time is the best option.
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Is this really Orc 1? It's filled with giants and ruk throwers wth
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>>147319493
Orc is only 2 levels deep now.
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>>147319493
Yes
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>>147319493
There are Orc variants that are basically Ogre Mines
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>>147319524

I know that but the first floor is usually small with just a few orcs and maybe a few high priests but this one looks way too spacious. It even has a vault
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>>147319493
>xXxMemekMaestro69xXx

>>147319657
Today I decided to play trunk and I go a vault on Orc:1 too, it had some giants (including a nasty ice giant) and a bunch of artifacts.
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>>147319629
Honestly I prefer the Ogre Mines endings over any other.
By that point they're a joke and are usually far easier than the usual Orc:2 offerings (warlords, high priests, 100 crossbow warriors)
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>>147321783
Not to mention the Roka ending.
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>>147301489
I think so too, there where topics in here and the next day Collthulhu made a balance of that topic.
>I can't remember what it was.
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I love you /rlg/
don't forget that
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>>147325375
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Oh shit the bastard son is back
time to play MuCK
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https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/17423
>It's a rather contentious and sensitive subject all around, tread lightly and maybe it'll actually happen this time.
>tread lightly

Why the fuck is he so into this shit anyway? Illuminati?
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>>147304914
Possibly. As has been mentioned before, one of the main driving forces behind Chris making PCB was that other variants weren't hard enough for him.
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>>147318981
>But too often it was completely inappropriate, like "I SEARCH THE CABINET!!!", or "I CLOSE THE DOOR!!!".
Those sound hilarious though.
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>>147319524
>even more abbreviated wings

So when are they just going to delete the regular mode and make it Dungeon Sprint: Stone Shit for real?
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>>147273729
Snail the kills this
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Good ol' xom
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>>147318981
Both of your examples there are "Haha this game is crazy, I love it."
The idea of a man(ghoul?) angrily shouting a narration of his every activity hits me right in the funny bone.
It might be a tonal issue, but that's the worst effect of it.
>>
ded
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>>147326670
>The fire burns you terribly. You are blasted by fire!
Damn it SCSS
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>>147294402
And I still think it's one of the worst things that ever came out of the land of the weeb.
Complete and utter trash.
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To that anon that reccomended me MuWz
This is fucking ridicolous
Signed, someone who is having fun
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>>147294402
>>147330924
[X] Light Novel
[X] Harem
[X] ^C main character
[X] School setting
[_] Name is a sentence, not a title

4/5.
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>Orcish Town
The devteam never should have released 3.6.0.
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>>147331395
Literally FREE aligned altar and sacrifices, anon.
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>>147331467
>No shop id
>No money
>No chance at magic lamps
>No watch captain equipment
>No divine protection
>Have to reach the altar to make killing shit worthwhile
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>>147329993
Huh, well alright, I made a note to consider putting it back.
>>
>Player ghost and red ugly thing camping the lair entrance and all three downstairs
wake me up
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>>147331771
Yeah, I'm just joshing you, it's kind of shite.
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>no glass flask of horse semen in pcb
shit game desu
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This ally is OP as fuck
>a ghost that confuses and paralyses everything
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>>147331395
please stop posting mister ant
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>>147331203
>^C main character
what?
also what is this
the chart of how much a show is terrible even by weeb standards
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>>147333136
^C is ctrl+C or "copy".
Yes.
One of the television series had some funny wordplay in the title though, so it may have to lose points for that.
(Remember My Mr. Lovecraft- which when mangled with engrish is "Rememberu Mai Rabu(kurafto san)")
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>>147333383
okay but look at this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT1Tp-nrRq0

Some insane japanese person wasted hours doing this.
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>>147333472
While I have no love for the show, if you don't think that video is great, you're a fun-hating faggot.

Crazy Japanese people make a lot of excellent stuff. PCB owes a lot to insane nips with too much time on their hands.
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>>147333683
>if you don't think that video is great, you're a fun-hating faggot.
that's what I'm saying. The show is shit, but the video is incredible.
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>>147333727
I'm glad we are in agreement then.
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I wonder if I can still fuck this up. May the overpowered hell sentinels go easy on me.
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>>147333913
Don't forget the hordes of C's in the rune vault.
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>>147298075
>it made it too easy to go through dozens of Pan realms for every non-dangerous Pan realm with medicore loot (which could just be nerfed further instead)
Game broken, such exploit.
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this is going to be tougher than i expected

fault
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>>147332401
Time for a new fork.
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>>147334813
Orc is now two levels, so watch out. You'll get O:4 spawns on level 2.
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>>147335006
yeah and i noticed lair is 6 floors now

what the fuck campbell
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>>147334813
>Bastard returns

Hey man. What's up?
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>>147325717
Several devs/community members were card carrying furries. Several other community members are trans, or confused, or traps (No, not that one). And there are people who like DBSM in the community.

And they had to fight the 'remove vibrators' thing since the start. Now with the addition of blacklists this "don't touch our sexytime' thinking is still a bit there. But yeah, a 'no sexytime blacklist isn't a bad idea' But people shouldn't just add 'bras' to the blacklists. Fucking virgins...
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>>147335178
not too much, just realized i missed playing roguelikes

are dicksman and sage and the rest still around?
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>>147334813
>tfw no Cu race in Crawl
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>>147335331
>are dicksman and sage and the rest still around?

>he doesn't know
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>>147335559
Sage posts her PCB maulers from time to time.
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>>147335331
>are dicksman and sage and the rest still around?
Sage came by and splatted a mauler in PCB last week or something.
Dicks will come back when he wants to.
Most people just left once crawl became kinda shit.
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>>147333913

That was fun. Didn't know mummies cannot be mutated so they're capable of Elona+ tier grinding in Pandemonium.
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>>147335763
>xXxMemekMaestro69xXx
Nice, though MemeKekMaestro would've been even more memetastic.

Congrats on the win too.
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>>147335723
>Dicks will come back
>implying that last vod upload with the worms won't be last you hear of him
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>>147335069
>implying those aren't great changes
Now if only we could get the rune branches down to 3 levels and Lair to 5.
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>>147335956
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>>147335985
why not just cut branches entirely

store all runes in the depths
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>>147336108
Because branches are fun?
They are usually based around small and concentrated themes which don't remain interesting when you are doing them for lots of floors (remember deep elf and deep vaults? fuck that shit).

Lair could probably use another cycling branch or two though, 3/4 of the branches are really heavily poison-oriented. Maybe a desert kind of deal?
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>>147336314
>adding branches
look at this madman trying to have fun
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>>147336409
If DCSS is so shit and unfun then why does everyone play it?
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>>147336779
Pretending to hate everything you do is a /v/ meme. Really funny, right?
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>>147336314

I could really use an elec branch. One that doesn't necessarily make you cry and perfectly doable like diving Spider/Snake without rPois/rElec. I think a thunderplains setting would be good.
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>>147336890
/v/ipsters ...
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>>147336983
i want a golem branch or something cool like wizlabs but an actual branch
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>>147336983
An elec branch would be fine if elec damage was reworked. 5-264 is pretty stupid even if it's unrealistic.
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>>147336779
how many crawl posts have you seen right now in this thread?
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>>147337278
Several, more than any other game that has been posted.
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>>147337496
And you know why?

This is why.
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>>147337608
>implying pony poster was even around that far back
What a top bloke.
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>>147337983

>implying I wasn't
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>>147325213
I gotta continue reading Poppy some time.
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I'm glad that the Helicopter Crash doesn't start off by making a shitload of noise, but maybe it should (probably no easy way to do that though).
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>>147338093
You're not me, so please don't start shit.

And he's right, I wasn't.

But I read the threads in the archive, the very first ones in fact, back when moe was alive. That's also when I snatched that crop, for several reasons.

And from reading and asking around with people who were around longer than me plus checking the actual /tg/ archives, I can tell you with utmost certainty that the first /vg/ thread was about crawl, that we eventually moved here because the videogame talk was becoming too big for /tg/ while crawl was getting bigger and bigger.

So we moved here.
There was another anon like two days ago that said that the first thread was about nethack.
No such thing.
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>>147335693
>Sage
>her

MY SLASHFICS ARE ALL FUCKED UP NOW

AHGHGHHRHRHGH
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>>147338561
Sage is not a grill anon
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>>147325213
What are you doing here, /co/
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>>147338958
/rlg/ is a melting pot of boards
there's some /co/ /v/ /a/ /pol/ /tg/ /x/ /mu/ and even /ck/ or /mlp/
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>>147338446
Fuck off retard with your e-celeb bullshit, of course someone is going to impersonate him because the whole circlejerk over Dicks and ponyfaggot is stupid. Fuck you asshole.
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>>147339328
can you rephrase that with more content and less random memes and swears
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>>147339237
Yes anon, people use multiple boards.
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>>147339456
What meme did I use? Holy shit, this general is so fucking bad.
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>>147339237
You forgot /b/, implied by /pol/.
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>>147339597
/v/ is literally just /b/ with videogames.
And probably where this guy >>147339578
comes from too.
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>>147339670
/v/ got dethroned as /b/ 2.0 when /pol/ took that title and became popular.
Also, /v/ isn't a retard gateway, unlike /pol/ which brings all sorts of redditards and stormtards here.
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>>147339237
dont forget /fit/ for the dicku obsession
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>>147339670
Oh right, I forgot to mention in my post that a swarm of fanboy autists will be triggered and cry to me about the /v/ boogeyman. Faggot.
>>
Just don't respond to ego-posting.
You're giving them what they want.
Every (You) just encourage them to keep posting their tired shit.
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>>147339827
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>>147339805
>/v/ isn't a retard gateway
It appears your cancer is terminal
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>>147339890
Oh and it's bait now because I disagree with your opinion? Go fuck yourself.
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>>147339237
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a minor degree of /trash/ here too.
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>someone recognizes my 4chan's scheme and namedrops me for no reason
>someone else tells him he's me
>tell him not to start shit and continue with my argument as if nothing happened
>hurr durr egoposter dick worshippers hurf durf

This is silly.
You're silly.
Stop this.
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Should I stick with the combat armour?
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What are you guys playing today? Are you going to your families BBQ's today or tommorow? Or are you a friend over the pond?

Playing DCSS as always.
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>>147340294
>anonymous but claiming to be someone
Do you see how fucking stupid this is? Put a trip or something on so I can filter your retarded ass faggot.
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>>147340294
>me me me me
4chan is an anonymous site, faggot. Fuck off.
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What is the best weapon brand, in general, for DCSS? If its weapon dependent then for an exe axe.
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>>147340012
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>>147340636
>>147340540
>one minute apart

Alright at least that one is settled.

Let's go back to roguelikes, people.
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>>147340502
Just playing some Cata. My family did their forth of July celebration yesterday. I couldn't go had work from 2 p.m. to 12 a.m.
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>>147340440
Shift I + direction. Compare the armours yourself.
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>>147340794
Great, paranoid and braindead cock-stroking fanboys. Stop shitting up the general with your cancerous forced memes idiot.
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>>147340814
>wielding: heavy power armor
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>>147340814
Zombie dancers? Ow god you are fucked. Stupid joke monsters.
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>>147340896
>hey look at me I changed my layout and edited out my (you)
Grow up.

>>147340502
Tried some MuCK before. Never again.
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>>147340921
Only in cataclysm, fill a 55 gallon drum with mutagen. Hit Z's with it.
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>>147341025
>straight out asking for proof that it isn't 2 people
>denies proof when you get it
Consider suicide, get a mod in here so you can see there's two different IPs you fucking faggot.
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>>147340502
You know there are other countries in North America aside from ones which celebrate 04/07 right?
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>>147341190
What's so important about April 7th?
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>>147341251
Kek.
Playing CDDA though.

Currently playtesting the fixed Generic_Guns mod.
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>>147341362
Nikhezen fixed it?
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OW the edge.
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>A pressure plate clicks underneath your Ogre!
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>>147341494
have an oldie but goldie.
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>>147341494
Quality rivet items
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how do i start with android runeknight? I cant get good equipment in the beggining with lucky perk and i get just killed in early levels of stronghold. Are there places where i can get some good gear early? Or maybe gear from the shop can give me easy levels?
>>
>>147341401
It's not in master yet, since there's some formatting check mugling needs to run. And the balance is still weird (being able to find all the ammo you need so easily should probably be looked at), but it works and the UI stuff is better. There are a couple things I probably missed from the blacklists too- which is why it still needs testing.
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>>147341873
stairdance stronghold for like five minutes at xl 1. Sell any potions you find.
You can get to level 5 if you just buy a leather jacket or whatever the item that has [12,0] is in the basic armor shop and that costs around 2,3 K.
Once you get there you buy a lot of crap armors of a single kind and enchant them all to sell them back. Then you start hopping through the towns to grab !clarity or you recall to stronghold 15 to get bombarded by meng huo's minions spells until your MP is maxed again.
And then you enchant that leather jacket with [fire] or you get to level 15 some way or another until you can inscribe lamps with [light]. Then you buy a stock of 99 lanters and slap light on them to sell them at 99 K at a general store (look for one with at least a 750 cap or even better a 1K one)
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>>147341634
>no bionic limit
>now people are complaining that it is being added
Pottery

Many other points are valid, though. And a big deal of them was fixed since then.
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Did this ice statue just miscast freezing cloud? Monsters can miscast?
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>>147342394
The bionic limit is a good idea and the only idiots who complain about it are the autists that you can read about in paragraph 2.
And yes a lot has been improved codewise in one year. It's a comforting thought.
>>
>>147342474
Actually, nevermind. Spellbinder does all that nonsense, which ironically makes it extremely dangerous for me to use.
>>
Guys please help.

I want to do a FoFi of Chei because fuck mobility. I want to be the best tank in the world but Okuwaru keeps showing up before her and I can't resist the temptation, nor am I good enough to make it far enough to trade off gods.
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>>147343167
>her
>>
>lowest level recall spell is 25
>in the third sorcery book
why
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>>147343341
Utility spells are totally fucked up man.
I mean, judge is a thing.
IMO players should just have recall as an intrinsic like berserkers and lose an inventory slot.
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>>147343321
>>her
Cheibriados is a feminine enough name for my headcanon.
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>>147343516
>feminine
>os
>>
Chei is neither just male nor just female.
Snail/slug avatar quite clearly points to hermaphrodite or at the very least a trap.
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>>147343610
The names are too close for me to not make the connection.

Now, should I just take Oku or keep waiting for Chei?
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>>147343809
you should play without a god.
>>
Could Diablo 2 posters post here?

It's kind of has rougelike elements.
>>
>>147343809
xom
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>>147343809
Do you want to win?
Take Okawaru.
Do you want to suffer for the chance to have 40/30/30 defenses?
Take Chei.
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>>147339237
It's ironic; I lurked /v/ and /x/ so much that I ended developing immunity to stupid bullshit.
Almost all the people who post in those places end succumbing to the shitposting fever.
>>
>>147343879
*activates fedora*
*steps on a teleporting pad*
*wields diamond katana*
Nothing personnel pilgrim
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>>147343925
No.
Go try to make /arpg/ though and merge with /poeg/. Sounds like a funny experiment.
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>>147343925
>>>/vr/
Still a god tier vidya, I eventually pick it up again every now and then.
Then I stop after I finish the game because I remember that it's just about grinding.
Hardcore 4 lyfe.
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>>147344012
More like
*casts haste on self*
*activate bobs and hastes them too*
*shoots you from behind over 9000 bobs*
psssh, nothing personnel Cerebov
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>>147344250
>bob
what
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>>147344301
Bestgem.
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>>147344382
ah okay
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>>147344382
I'm confused. Maybe because english is not my native languaje, but I was almost sure a "bob" isn't a gem of any kind.
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>>147344545
That is because bob is also best human.

Aaaaand a box of beasts.
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>>147344301
MY 「STAND」 Unbeatable BOXU OF BEASTU
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>>147344625
>>147344732
didnt they turn the box of beasts into a fucking useless item in like .14
>>
>>147344913
no you're thinking of trunk
it's stupid good until .18
>>
>>147344913
>>147344996
They're still stupidly good. They just made it so that your bob can unravel on the first use instead of limiting it the a proper amount. Because rng is fun, right?
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Things are happening very quickly.
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>>147345294
Nab that rune anon
I believe in you.
>>
>>147344996
>>147345109
oh
i just remember them being able to make loads of chimeras that were super fun

and then that got cut
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>>147345294
>killing monsters will force the abyss to allow you passage
excuse me but what the FUCK
>>
>>147345428
I thought it was basically Lugonu wants you out for ruining some of his fun.
>>
>>147345428
It's a good feature to be honest
>>
>>147345717
>not appreciating the true value of abysscumming
>>
>>147345717
yeah I just never saw that before
when was it added
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In the meantime, on /v/
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>>147345868
>fun
>game
>playing
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>>147345868
>buckler
DELETE THIS
>>
>Crawl adds mechanic that sound fucking retarded, like Abyss letting you out because you killed some dudes
>but they're actually good mechanics that remove bullshit and tedium
It's bullshit, but I agree with it.
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>>147345868
I had a good time shitposting about how roguelites should be called roguelikelikes.
>>
>>147345868
I rarely ever see anyone posting about this game
why?
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>>147343934
>40/30/30 defenses
Just Gr my man.
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>>147346065
Not too well received.
Low level play is quite easy, high level (nightmare, infinite dungeon etc.) very bullshitty.
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>enemy goblin steps on a caustic gas trap and on a net trap right the next turn

RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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IFFFFFFFFF YOU SMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL
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>>147345424
You can still attempt to make loads of them. Its just a roll of the dice fi you'll succeed. You can probably make 3-4 bobs if you have 2 boxes. MORE THAN ENOUGH TO KILL ANYTHING THAT MOVES.
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>>147346516
>67 ac
>18 ev
laughingcrystalspears.jpg
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>>147346547

NANI?! 『BOX OF BEAST』?!
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>CDDA debug "remove monsters" command kills monsters, triggering on-death effects like turrets exploding

lmao just call it "kill monsters"
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『THE WORLD』!
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>>147340660
Holy/vamp/chaos/anything other than venom, depending on what you're fighting
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>>147347256
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>chaos
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>>147347612
>>147347256
Chaos is "supposed" to be good in postend, but I've seen people play with it and it doesn't really trigger the good effects as often as you'd think.
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>>147347256
>chaos
I sure love having a 1/40 chance of hasting/berserking my enemies with every hit.
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>>147347027
>you land a Dragon Fist

JOJOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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>>147347827
i can assure you that whoever says chaos is a good brand is wrong
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I'm both sad and terrified. How can you splat a GrBe like this?
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Is there any way to list all items which are NOT blacklisted in CDDA?
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>>147346693
>Needing EV when you can tank everything
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>>147348401
Write a python script that does it :)
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>>147348352
>Be
The splats write themselves.
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>>147347856
Nothing that matters in extended can go berserk. They can all be confused, petrified or paralysed, though. And it's not like you don't have escape consumables spilling out of your pockets if you accidentally haste lom lobon or whatever.

>>147348113
I suspect most players' experience with chaos is using a spear on d:1 as a CK and regurgitating tavern "advice".
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>>147348352
>>147348487
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>>147348352
>Kek's ghost.
>The ghost of Kek the Conqueror, an expert Centaur Fighter of Cheibriados.
>AC ++++++++
>EV ++++++
>MR ++++
>It looks extremely dangerous.
>It is immune to poison, rotting and negative energy; very resistant to fire and cold; and resistant to electricity, steam and acid.
>It can see invisible.
>It can fly.
>It is moving extremely quickly.
>It is intelligent.

>Spells
>a - Firestorm
>b - Chain Lightning
>c - Lehudib's Crystal Spear
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Read-ID'd scroll of aquire
What should I take?
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>>147348943
Always Acquire wAnds
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>>147346065
It's a bad game
>>147348943
Wand/armour/weapon
Whichever you need more. Wand is usually great.
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>>147348943
barmor
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>>147348992
Why always wands?
To get Haste or Heal?
The chance of getting magic darts or frost is always higher
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>>147348943
Forgot image, sorry.
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Well, I made a gigantic autism stash for my Formicid 15 rune victory and my screen shot fucked up. GG. Glad to be done with that, formicids are fun but so stressful.
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>>147348943
WEAPON
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Best ideal ziggurat-farmers?
Naga? Octopode?
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>>147348943
Always post a dump if you are going to ask for ?acq advice.
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>>147349124
>The chance of getting magic darts or frost is always higher
So you have no clue about acquirement weighting, gotcha.
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>>147349124
It's only higher if you haven't identified magic darts or frost
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>>147349468
>>147349125
see
>>147349174
You need a bigger killdudes.
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>>147349468
>+0 battleaxe
Okay maybe consider weapon acquirement.
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>>147349125
Weapon/wand are both good.
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th-thanks
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>>147349124
>>147349537
Frost wands don't even exist anymore.
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>>147318981
Just don't allow "peaceful" actions during frenzy. Who has time to search cabinets and close doors during frenzy?

Maybe being unable to open doors is a bit much - perhaps allow only the 'w' action.
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>>147349575
>>147349589
>>147349729
>Weapon
Thanks guys, I got a longbow
a fucking +4 longbow of freezing
with zero skill in bows.
great

Goddamnit, neverlucky.
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>>147350558
Angrily searching cupboards while frothing with rage is great though.
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>>147350705
>Xom roars with laughter!
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>>147350827
Welp, Urug just wandered into me and I got a wand of healing and +2 war axe of venom off him so its not all bad.
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>>147347027
How do you get all those windows with information?
>>
Can vampires gain mutations?
If so, are they still effective while bloodless or do they get nullified until you become satiated?
Also, are they Mutation/torment immune while bloodless?
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>>147349904
You knew it was going to happen eventually.
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>>147351135
Tick the visibility in the left upper corner window options and then in-game go to options with = and then check the (W)indows for whatever information you want.
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>>147350705
Time to raise bows, sounds like?
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>>147351725
Nope, died. Ran into some hydra's and had no way to actually kill them in time or escape.
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>>147351821
The dreaded 10 speed monster.
Unless there was water, in which case nevermind.
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>>147351821
>no way to escape
You literally could not move, eh?
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>>147351529
Thanks anon.
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>>147351821
Hahahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Are 10 Speed Monsters Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From Them Like Nigga Go Up The Stairs Haha
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>>147352005
>You literally could not move, eh?
I thought I could wand them to death but they were resisting too much. They closed the distance and I was a formicid, no reliable way to get away without my overconfidence getting in the way.
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>>147352385
Formicids can literally create shafts at will
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>>147352385
Next time reconsider before they get up in your face.
Even if they do, you can run away until energy randomization makes them hit you once, after which there will be a space between you and them. Go up stairs.
Also >>147352653
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>>147351487
No one knows? I can't find an answer on Learndb about the mutations question.
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>>147350949
>him
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>>147352765
>A coarse and lanky orc. Urug lost his eye in a fight with a harpy, and has sworn to slay every last one of them. Unfortunately, the vision in his remaining eye is not very good, and he has mistaken you for one. He smells terrible.
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>>147352920
>not playing experimental
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is there any way to zoom in on DCSS console? like, just increase the font size on everything and make it look bigger
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Dear diary:

Today I found out what "infravision" means and the importance of experimenting when playing unspoilered.
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>>147353256
Of course there is. It's called increasing your font size.
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>Abyss entrance in Lab
trading one labyrinth for another huh
Might as well take it since i'm worshipping Lucy
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>>147353664
>Might as well take it since i'm worshipping Lucy
>missing on the labyloot
you're gross
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>>147353431
fug you're right, didn't know it was just tied to console settings
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>>147353917
Why, does departing the abyss not dump you back there?
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>>147354157
>does departing the abyss not dump you back there?
Of course not. Same with the pan abyss exits.
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Ayy
>>
so many berserkers lately
it's disgusting
>>
Where to go where to go?
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>>147355228
Who do you need to know?
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>>147356842
I know nothing
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>>147355228

slime
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>>147355228
Elf is easy with great loot!
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>>147323465
>Saint Roka can spawn in Orc:2
Holy shit what
>>
>>147355228
You have 3 runes, go win the game
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>>147339805
>/v/ isn't a retard gateway
Thanks for the laughs
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sorc life
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>>147321783
That Banishment though.
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>>147358294
>that's so wizard with more mp than hp
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whee
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>>147358704
>of trog
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I finally learned what this stat actually means and I feel downright enlightened now, despite how long it took for me to figure it out.
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>>147342521
That russian guy implemented it.
Its good because before you could have unlimited amount of CBM installed making you OP as fuck.

Now only if the CBM power gets a cap or something... people walking around with 20k of power seems like an exploit.
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>>147357829
for all I know, in version 0.17 he can spawn on the fourth floor sometimes. Generally, I only bother going back by the time I can go through the Vaults and/or the Depths fine. He is powerful, but by the time your character is ready for the endgame he's one of the easier endgame uniques to kill.
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Is Qazlal great or what?
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>Robin Hood drops his bow
Charisma bonuses are finally coming in handy.
>>
>>147359676
So what does it mean?

I'm assuming something with how your armour weight effects your sp, given that sorcerers have a much lower number than anyone else.
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>>147360123
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5fTtrZAJk8
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>>147360930
Yeah, in the calc_encumbrance function your total equipped weight is compared against that weight stat and if the former is above the latter you become encumbered and take a penalty to max SP. Unexpectedly, sorcs are actually hit significantly less hard for the actual penalty despite their tiny ceiling. Or maybe it's to make up for that, I dunno.
>>
Ttrying to play lucky with a race that sucks early is painful trying to get off the ground.
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>>147361593
lazy is even more annoying
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>breezed through everything up until this point
>get lazy, quickly inspect boss but too lazy to give a fuck
>get 1shot
wowthx
I dunno why I even play this game anymore, I always end up dying due to being lazy

fuck
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>>147361713
Does lazy has a hidden bonus I'm not aware off?
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>>147360552
Okay, what are my chances of taking all these bastards on without spamming disaster area?
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>>147361871
indeed, "eventually"
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>>147361871
I think lazy has some really good rare armor that only drops for them.
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>>147361890
You seem pretty fucked regardless
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>>147361890
APOLOGIZE TO MY WIFE
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How inaccurate is all of this?
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>>147362183
You seem right. This is about 2 disaster areas and an elemental force later.
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>>147362386
heh
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>>147362386
I don't really get the PCB one but all the others were great.
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>>147362386
pretty much all of them are spot-on.
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>>147349282
Naga, draconian, demigod, ogre
Basically anything with big numbers. Lots of slots helps, octopode isn't terrible at it
Mummy isn't horrible but is vulnerable to angels

Basically just bring apportation and disjunction then stroll through
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>>147361871
it also has hidden penalties
>>
>>147362386
>Ivan
My sides
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>>147362475
Nevermind, just apply more disaster areas.
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>>147363127
Damn
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>>147363196
There's a margery left alive on the other side of the pit, imma hack her up.
>>
Most *hacks that aren't purposefully made to be bullshit, like Amy's, can be won pretty consistently whereas a 3 win streak is still a big deal for Crawl. I understand and agree with criticisms towards the game's design, but where did the meme of it being the piss-easy game that any idiot can win blindfolded come from?
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>>147364092
More people play it, so we see more wins.
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>>147364092
Because newbie retards who hadn't won on the earlier versions started getting better and somehow figured that it was version changes that allowed them to win instead of improved skill
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>>147295749
Yeah, I can't figure out how to add those items to the shop list.

It's probably a combination of:
>they are worthless
>new device egos- they are not base items

If you want to look into it further, check store.c as well.
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>>147364092
I fifteen runed crawl after playing it for three weeks without even playing some braindead MiBe combo.
And that was three years ago.
>>
how to refresh shop contents in poschengband?
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>>147364674
So what's your current winrate? How many other roguelikes had you played before?
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>>147364885
I am an awfulplayer, with about two thousand something games and three wins.
I also won MuMo. I think that counts as a fourth win.
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>>147364870
Rest for a few days at the Inn.
>>
>find a ring with fire branding
>it doesn't work with dragon melee
Literally no fun.

>>147364870
Buy out the shop or some magic with the passage of time. There's a human/demigod power that lets you change the shop contents for a price, too.
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>>147365014
I don't think you have any actual reason to think crawl is easy with so few wins over so much time, MuMo or not
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>>147365516
I absolutely agree.
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>awfulplayers
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>>147367052
>>
I'M CALLING THE COPS
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>>147367910
Finally turning yourself in?
>>
im just playing through the dungeon crawl stone soup tutorial and it tells me that i can close open doors with c, im standing next to the open door, but everytime i press c, it says 'there isnt anything here'

help
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>>147368362
It's C. Big C.
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>>147368431
I think it's a joke.
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>>147368431
oh, well thanks
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fugg :D
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>>147369909
Just walk backwards and go down a staircase
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>>147370224
I just thought there was enough shit on one place to be screenshot worthy
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>>147369909
michael jackson
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>>147370409
It gets worse.
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I see elephantwww
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>>147371105
That's a vulture you nerd
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>>147371105
You're the only one, anon.
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>>147371105
That's what she said.
>>
>>147369909
>see 4 enemies at once
>spend the next two turns walking forwards into the room instead of backing up
i'm sorry anon, but you have the tabbitis
i'm afraid it's terminal
>>
>>147365014
You won the MuMo challenge? Is that you dicksman? Did you do it online?
>>
I'm criminally bad at C:DDA. Is there anything I have to keep in mind, other than crafting a makeshift crowbar right away and trying to trap enemies in window frames?
>>
>>147372302
Literally all those messages are from the same turn. I died on D:7 fighting a bunch of killer bees on a corridor
>>
>going back to the stairs to leave this floor
>something double breathes time out of the darkness
This is like the third craft dragon I've splatted at this level.

I just want that reforging spell so I can discover that it's probably not any good.
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>>147372934
>breathes an abstract concept
>It breathes morality.
>>
>>147372934
Should have detected more.
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>>147372905
Get armor
Don't rush
Make meme spear
>>
>>147373231
>time is an abstract concept on the same level as morality
>>
>>147372905
Press " to run, if you are playing experimental.

You can outrun pretty much anything besides dogs, hulks and feral predators so long as your stamina lasts.
>>
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Kek.
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>>147374027
peperony and chease
>>
>>147374080
Someone has said this to one of my deaths before. Please explain.
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>>147374027
>Comfortable (Falling)
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Do I take Marky Makh here? I'm just going purely for total victory, not any fancy shit.
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>>147374252
>:|
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>>147374341
Yes
>>
>>147372759
probably boltzmann aka ponyposter aka arrhythmia aka "that guy with the godawful black-and-green winxp theme"
>>
>>147373852
>implying both don't exist only due to our unique perception of the world
>>
>>147374027
>See you Space Cowboy
>>
>>147374174
It's from the Oregon Trail game. Users can make custom epitaphs when they die and other players can run into them. In the shareware version that was copied around, the peperony and chease epitaph was part of the copy, so thousands of players ran into the same message.
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>>147374949
Ah, thanks for explaining.
>>
Can i uncurse morgul weapons? It says it has a heavy curse. Will a *uncurse* work?
>>
>you will never point at Kenshiro and yell "DIE!" with him also pointing at you yelling "DIE!" back until one of you has been slain
>>
>>147375256
?*Remove Curse* removes heavy curses, yes.
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>early eyes of draining
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>>147375283
>>
>>147373231
I was pretty sure time isn't an abstract concept.
>>
>>147376557
>it breathes distance!
>you feel yourself growing distant!
>>
What is best god for a MfSu?
>>
>>147376621
I never said it was a tangible concept, either.

But I actually laughed at the joke.
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>>147376621
>it breathes good game design!
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So was this guy in the heli with me or what?
>|| purse
Mike, my man....
>>
>>147376918
>pair of fire gauntlets
Nigga you 'bout to die and be sodomized in that order.
>>
>>147376918
he's cataclysm jiub
>>
>>147376918
Yes he was one of the survivors you picked up. And then magically your heli crashed.
>>
>>147377860
Well now I'm out to go put a bullet in his ma. Hope he's okay while I'm gone! I found a bunch of dead and disarmed army personnel, a bunch of torn up trees and a dead bear as well as some chunks of meat not far from the crash site.
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>>147378341
Good luck. Well, at least the mission wasn't to kill a jabberwock.
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>Generic Guns got updated
Hallelujah
>>
HuNe cant fuck with phantoms early level... what the flying fuckery man. shock spell might as well be a spitwad. and my +1 short sword cant fucking hit? WHAT THE FUCK RLG-BABS
>>
>>147379068
Yeah I got that mission last time >>147374027
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>>147379951
Open your learndb browsing apparatus of choice and look up imp parking
Works great for phantoms too!
>>
>>147380101
Managed to sword it to death. havent found any summon books. The D siblings are on this floor too. unbridled niggedry....
>>
>>147380316
The optimal tech is to enslave Duvessa, make her kill Dowan, then drop a mephitic cloud on her head and whittle her to death with magic darts.
100% optimal.
>>
>>147379091
Rewrite of the drop code got merged today too.
Good day for pulling.
>>
>>147380589
i found Duvessa in a corridor alone. pain, pain, melee x2, vampire drain. then i fear scrolled Dowan, pain, pain, pain, pain, vamp ded. the phantom was a bigger nog by far...
>>
>>147380767
I'm glad you're having fun, anon.
>>
>>147380759
Well it looks like the builds of experimental haven't been updated QUITE yet.
Still, good stuff.
>>
>>147379951
Control Undead should make you able to enslave phantoms for enough turns to tell them to go away and take a light jog into the stairs
>>
>>147380931
When do they update anyway?
I just use git and compile myself.
>>
>>147381105
They're queued for compilation on the bot as soon as they're merged, but it doesn't start building them until it has finished with the current batch.
The bot will first compile all binaries (all OSes and tiles/console) of the current version.
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>>147380976
they use blink moronically, so theyre pretty easy to run from, but i can painstakingly take them out melee whilst using regen spell.

>>147380894
Thanks! Finally got decent enough to play past D3 with a HuNe... pretty excited to see where i finally splat!
>>
DsAK training longblades, should i hope for a double sword to brand with disto or is there something better? Got quite a bit of shields already so 2-handed is not really an option
>>
>>147381365
Oh okay, I see.
>>147381376
It's usually better not to bother killing monsters if it takes that much effort in DCSS, but I'm sure you don't mind that.
>>
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This isn't inspiring about the power of the beastmaster class.
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Demon is officially an adult roguelike.
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>>147381474
Double swords are good, as are demon blades. If you find the Autumn Katana then you should use it. That still exists, right?
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>>147382097
>actually capturing a unicorn when you're so close to the end
why bother
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>>147383561
So that I can rape it with my mod.
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>>147383601
Taste the rainbow!
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>>147381521
non melee chars survival in DCSS is all about knowing when to flee. and havng your shit ID'd so you can use panic items without fear of immolate in your face or a potion that mutates you.
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>>147383561
Because Neros are vulnerable to silence, while Unicorns are not.
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>>147384187
I would kill for a fire or poison book right now for sure though. Sky beast elec immunity... shitty ass elec spellbook... at least my neg energy will work. though my pain is pretty damn weak here on D6... Need to get right with Yred and get this party going proper...
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I feel like this should actually be a reasonable amount.
Even -50 would get the point across.
Also Wet going to -50 is kind of silly too.
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>play beefy hitdude
>get bored of endless tabbing past Lair
>play low AC character
>stuff like this happens
I just don't know lads
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Small fort with a moat... with a few elec eels... I suppose whatever is in there, can wait. prolly a book i really need atm is in there... i could blink past them and take minimal damage... but idk whats past them. better fuck off for now.
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>>147385197
disengage and form a plan of attack. or flee till youre able...
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>>147385202
Do you have any fire spells?
Eels die really quickly to steam clouds, even a shot or two with a wand of flame will kill them.
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>>147385202
fireless. i have shock and pain. vs 3 eels at XL9. im fucking off from round there.
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I'm a MuNe on D:7. No books yet, I have 8 Necromancy and 4 spellcasting. I feel necromancy is only situationally useful, at least with the starting book. Should I try to branch out a bit to melee or is my xp too tight for that? I have no way to deal with tough undead as is
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Got into a fight with a Giant White Louse, and the little shit keeps multiplying. Wat do?
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>>147385197
That spell ignores AC.
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>>147384594
>>147385202
There's something inside my that pulls beneath the surface...
Consuming...
Confusing...
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>>147385197
Honestly 60 is pretty middling as far as damage goes. Doesn't LCS go up to 107?
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>>147386429
No, it doesn't.
Irresistible =/= AC-bypassing.
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>>147386291
yeah well, im bad at training shit so my pain aint what it should be, 2 shots from the eels and im in the yellow. its a bad idea to attempt it. ill come back to it later when i have Yred backing me an army. D6 and no rings or amulets. wtf is going on here?
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>>147386542
The enemy spell goes up to 117
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>>147386371
pls respond
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>80 minutes to do shoals
Why does it exist
Why is water a thing
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>>147387174
My nigga, you need area affecting shitz to fuck em up by the groups.
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>>147385186
- 50? it can go lower.
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Well that's it. 7 zigs and all skills maxed. I think I'll play something else now.
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>>147387279
>started by playing as a duelist

I'm fucked, aren't I?
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>>147387290
I don't know the cap, I've just seen it cap out around -50.
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>>147387371
Honestly, idk. im very new to PCB. its brutal shit. first game i played i walked out the right of outpost and encountered farmer maggot. brutal.
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>>147387467
Don't know either, I had it drop to -62 once. No idea what influences it. Running around naked gave me a positive modifier. ... no idea why.
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Wow, I mean if I was in a situation like this, I would really feel beat up about wearing this extremely high quality backpack. Right?
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>>147387623
It scales with temperature and "water unfriendly" clothing.
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>>147387597
Guess I'm skipping that floor, then. I can't kill'em all before they get replaced by 5 more.
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>>147387304
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>>147387758
Yup thats the forgiving part of the game, sometimes shit gets worse. It always gets worse.
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Sweet baby jesus
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>>147388020
Gonna buy the MALL
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>>147388095
>Wand of HW in another shop
>Not even at the bottom
Holy crap this is incredible, i wonder if i'll have enough dosh for everything
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Is there any rhyme or reason to which boots i can and cannot sheath knives in? I made some armored leather boots, but I can't put my survival knife in them. For that matter, I also can't do anything with my leather belt, even though my makeshift crowbar says it can be hooked on a belt! HOW DOES THIS WORK?
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>>147388421
Lucky man. So i whomped the eels using LOS and pain/regen. and in the room? trees. Well i got XP for the kills at least. Yay. and on D6 i found a ring finally! sust att!!
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>>147388421
buy smart. if i was you i might only buy one xp pot for now. go back later when u have more cash or if the shops later are shit.
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>>147388425
Do you use mods? Several of the mods have never been updated for the new features.
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Help. Please.
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CDDA
Any recommended world/scenario choices for a relatively new player who has gotten past year 1 and wants to start a new game?
Not really interested in Fast Zombies/Wander Spawns. Was thinking of upping the Spawn ratio a bit and dropping the item ratio as well.

What does /rlg/ find fun?
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>>147388425
>>147389053
I'm guessing you are using the more survival tools mod. Several of the weapons don't get the special block moves etc. For example.
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>>147389149
Read a tele
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>>147388798
The orc:4 shops were indeed shit, so i went back and bought everything. I still have 700 gold to spare, too.
Is it better to quaff the exp immediately or wait for a levelup?
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>>147389149
Walk towards the hound. If you don't see a new stair and/or something else bad appears, read ?tele.
You could also consider shafting down, but that would be just as bad and you wouldn't get the exploration you could get here.
May the level generation be kinder to you.
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>>147389149
Go up, find the other stairs. Read tele, wait one turn, go down.
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>>147389337
It doesn't matter, unless you're really close.
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Tele put me up near that top portion and I could walk around to filter Pikel through first. Thanks all.
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>>147389158
Spawn rate ~2.5, dynamic NPCs at about 0.1 rate.
If you were playing stable, try experimentals. They are harder to cheese.
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>>147389793
Nice tabs, anon
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>>147389793
The new auras are awful, what was wrong with a little heart or smiley face to the right side of the tile?
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>>147389793
Dude, you know you can use the Thread Watcher instead of leaving all those tabs open, right?
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>>147389864
Drop the item spawn rate as well.

I played around with the more locations mod and large cities and larger areas between the cities. But setting the city/distance to 7 and 7 and using the more locations mod gave very strange maps (hardly any cities, and the cities that spawned were tiny). I think the more locations mod is to blame. So if you want to change these settings test them out first by making a world, and using the debug to reveal the map and teleporting around on a few different maps. So you can see if the mapgenerator doesn't fuck you over.
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>>147389919
I can't see, I can't see, I'm going blind... [x12]
I'm blind [x4]
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>>147389919
Completely intentional
>>147390064
Fuck that. I forget about it every time.
So should I pop down and see if I can do some shit or just keep hunting for lair?
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6 mutagenic chunks from sky beast. should i eat them shits?
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>>147390236
Go to Lair

And why do you always have that aqua teen hunger force video open?
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>>147390236
stair dance one or two at a time.
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>>147390390
Because shit's funny, even with little to no focus on it. I like shit in the background and most other things are far too obtrusive.
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>>147390330
No, you should reminisce about fullsome distillation and evaporate, then throw the chunks in lava. Have a moment of silence.
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Fucking finally, only took me about 20 tries. I really hope this race pays off later on.
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>>147390457
Tried it once, a MiBe ghost is down there and I'm not going back there until I'm super fucking prepared.
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>>147389864
Cool, I'll try out Dynamic NPCs at low spawn rates. And yeah I'm playing the latest master.

>>147390116
While I was testing stuff on a world set to 5/5 size/spacing, it seemed to work fine. I'm not using more locations though. Could be either that or the very high value.
Any ideas for item spawn rate?
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>>147390558
Garbage drake of crusade?
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>>147389149
S t a i r d a n c e
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>>147390742
Yeah, and all of my fucking spells are shit except for the detection, hero and bless. I got lightning breath spell but why the fuck do I need to breath lightning when I have sound and shards? My melee is shit too and I have all these combat rings on.
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>>147391284
Ah, yes.
Welcome it.
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>>147391173
You're a bit late.

Also, thank god for wolf bro. An unseen horror popped in from somewhere and would have murdered me easy.
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>>147391431
Fuck off, furry!
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>>147391518
>wolf suit+
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>>147391284
Yeah, most of the crusade breath spells seem more for flavour than actually useful considering which dragons can even take it.

At least the ones that can take death have awful breath elements so they have reason to use theirs.
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>>147390625
I put the items at 0.8, and npcs at 0.05. And I upped the seasons to 90 days and the growth of Z's into something high as well.

(with 2.5Zs).
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>>147392395
i think the only remotely useful one is the holy fire breath but it depends on how big the multiplier the damage is against evil which i have no idea
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>>147330924
It made nips read Lovecraft's works, and it is very Lovecraftian on a meta level in the sense that strange foreigners violated Western purity to create something terrifying that bears resemblance to what it once was but is visibly twisted and wrong.

Instead of the Innsmouth look, it's the Malaysian Woodcarving look.
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Oh, you poor, dumb, war axe wielding bastard.
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>>147392926
is the joke here that people actually take lovecraft seriously
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Wait, Urug is female now?
Also, how should I be rolling? Halberd or using this bomb ass shield? rPois +4 str and fly.
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>Finally after a half dozen characters I'm getting somewhere in DDA
>got armor, a weapon, food, water
>zombie can't do shit to me anymore
>Start out on the next stage of my journey
>walk around corner
>NPC shivs me to death
Lesson learned.
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>>147393059
Shields generally aren't worth it, and you already have meat shields
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>>147393343
I'm at least gonna pull it out for Snake.
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>>147393043
please don't bully lovecraft
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>>147393230
the real monster..........is man..
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i just got rune sword as android rune knight.

is it worth in 5.0.0? its only -10/-10 and i got rings to sustain it. I wonder how hard its to level it up.
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>>147393230
>got armor, a weapon, food, water
>zombie can't do shit to me anymore
>NPC shivs
>Shivs...
How is that possible?
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>>147393517
lovecraft is the poor man's robert w. chambers
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>>147393001
Inb4 he steps diagonally through the door and chops your head off
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>>147393779
And chambers is the hipster's lovecraft.
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>>147393694
It's sort of decent, though you need some luck to get useful brands on it, and it will eventually gain aggravate.

Probably useless for androids since it is worth 1 gold.
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>>147393779
Except only a handful of Chamber's works resembles Lovecraft's at all. He did a metric fuckton of shitty books that no one remembers anymore, and Lovecraft lost his respect for him because of that
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Hey guys, which is more dangerous: swamp or snake?
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>>147394110
>He did a metric fuckton of shitty books that no one remembers anymore
exactly like lovecraft hmmm hmmm
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>>147394295
Snake probably
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>>147393741
I don't know, but he critted me for 30 damage three times in a row before I even hit him once.
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>>147394358
Except everyone remembers Lovecraft's monsters and lore.
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>>147392738
Looks like double damage, so should be pretty good endgame if you can keep your hp and sp up.
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>>147389919
>summoner article on crawlwiki
disgusting
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>>147394441
cthulhu isn't all of lovecraft's monsters and lore
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>>147394441
>>147394358
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>>147394575
Nyarlathotep? Azathoth? Shub-Niggurath? Shoggoths? Elder Things? Deep Ones? All incredibly well known.
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Should I even go to either of them?
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>>147394782
>incredibly well known
there you go again, spouting those blatant lies

you seem very out of touch
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>>147395178
Okay retard, not even the same anon.
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>>147394648
Yaranaika is a good pumpkin carving idea.
>>147394782
He's baiting you, man.
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>>147395142
Go volcano with that FDA
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>>147395339
FDA?

Also, when the hell did I get a wand of haste?
Lair:3? Okay then. Game wants me to have this one I guess.
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>>147394782
Lol, he forgot the color from outer space, the mi-go, Gagon, and Yog-Sothoth. What a mythos noob!
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>>147395478
You have fire dragon armor in your inventory
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I just ascended in Brogue, and looking to try another Roguelike with classes and races.

So, DCSZ Vs. Poschengband. Any reason I should pick one over the other? I'm likely to invest lots of time to finish one anyway, so what are the most significant differences between those 2?
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>>147395523
*Dagon. I fat-fingered it.
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>>147395551
Ah, but then I can't summon the frost beasts. I'm not certain if I can take that.
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>>147395523
>the color from outer space
You mean the color OUT OF space. Also you forgot flying polyps and Mother Hydra.
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>tfw your run has no trove
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>>147395638
Ugh, "DCSS", not "DCSZ". Lousy typing while sipping beer. Sorry.
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>>147395753
You win this one neckbeard!
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>>147395917
>Ugh
T*mblr
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>>147395638
Poschengband is a pretty bad game, I wouldn't recommend it. Far too much bloat.

Crawl is pretty fun, though it's more race oriented than class oriented, all your class determines is your starting skills and equipment,
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>>147396036
>Far too much bloat.
!!! WARNING !!!
DEVDRONE DETECTED
AVOID ALL CONTACT
!!! WARNING !!!
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>>147396036
Crawl = DCSS not this: store.steampowered.com/app/293780/
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>>147396198
PCB literally has so many monsters they have to reuse certain character + color combinations.
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>>147395808
>scroll of acquirement
>acquire wand
>get wand of random effects
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Can anybody tell me what the hell this is? How the lava washes up like waves. Anyways, it wasn't that hard actually. Some two-headed ogres and pigs. Should I nab a weapon of fire and try and take the ice caves too?
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>>147396261
Reminds me of that one time I got my head kicked in by a phantom beast because I thought it was a phantom warrior.
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>>147395638
Poschengband has weird races (magical rings, one that uses corpses to become that monster) and a great loot game.

DCSS has an actual user interface. You can build your character how you want which feels good (though once you know what you're doing all your characters tend to look the same, so).
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>>147396329
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>>147396329
>tabs
I honestly can't tell if you're memeing or not. I hope you are.
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go down stairs to D10, 2 wolves 4 wraiths grum and jospehene. another fun floor.
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>>147396653
What ever could you be talking about?

Goddamn Swamp Dragon simulacrum
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>>147396735
Go upstairs. followed by 2 wraiths and a wolf. vampire i avoided earlier was somehow in the area also. low on mana. try to control undead. contam, vampire confuses me. RIP.
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Got some fat loot outta those places, what should I dump off?
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Breath is turning out to be pretty useful.
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I want to make a tileset for poschengband, since ive played the game for a long time and think I'm up to it.

How do I do that.

By which I mean, how do I go about connecting a tileset I make to the game itself?
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>>147394782
>>147395523
the only reason I've even heard of these things is because they're in a couple of meme roguelikes like PCB that happened to be played here
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>>147398719
Doing pretty well as a golem monk.

Drawing is a work in progress, obviously.

Unfortunately lacking in levitation and fire resist, so Smaug is a distant dream
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>>147398719
who is this cum construct
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>>147398434
No worries outside of cthulhu nobody knows any of them really.

Except gross nerds like people here.
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>>147398940
Fucking ace.
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>>147398940
The next generation of VR-Masturbation hardware
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Thank god I have stun res
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>>147397809
You'd have to add to this function here in main-sdl.c and increase the number of tiles available. Then compile the SDL version with -DUSE_GRAPHICS

There will probably be a couple other steps, obviously making the tiles and putting them in the directory. May be other stuff like adding to defines.h. I'm not sure.

Monumental undertaking though. Good luck.
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>>147400265
I have no problem with making tiles, but coding stuff is completely alien to me
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No fae crone can withstand the lasciviousness of an animated sex doll.
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>>147393974
>Probably useless for androids since it is worth 1 gold.
Remember when rune swords used to sell for 30k?
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>>147400359
Check the tilesheets in lib/xtra/graf (may be different on SDL port? idk) for a reference. It's only 8x8 so I'm not sure where the sprites would go for 16x16. Probably just at doubled x and y values.
If you make a sheet with a few tiles, someone can probably help with the coding bits.
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>>147400842
I'd probably be going for 32x32 tiles since the detail of 16x16/8x8 would not allow enough variation for the sheer quantity of monsters in the game.

Here's a quick sheet, with dimensions 1024x3168
(it's a screenshot so I can show guidelines)

I'm guessing animation is impossible (I was hoping to provide important enemies, like the serpent, simple animations)
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Shame about the to-hit because these actually outdamage all the current spells I have.
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>>147401762
I also posted on the forum, it would probably be easier to arrange a tile project there.
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>>147384464
Are neros weak against light? That seems kind of odd since they're pure healbitches.
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>>147398550
Poptepipic is godly.
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>>147398550
>>147402681
I'm giggling like an idiot.
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>>147401762
>>147402002
Animation would require some extra coding, but shouldn't be impossible (just flashing through a few tiles should be fine).

I'm not sure how to figure out in which cell each tile goes, but my best guess is that it is in order of defines. You can check lib/edit/r_info.txt and src/defines.h on the repo to see what each monster's define is for example.

oook.cz people who work on 'bands with actually maintained tiles will probably know more.
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>>147402951
I'm guessing this would be legible with notepad+

I'll just hope someone replies on the angband forums.
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>>147403191
Yeah, do yourself a favour and download notepad+.
You could also check it out on the repo.
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>>147403191
Consider making a thread, like "Creating a tileset for PosChengband" in the variants forum. Only PCB players really reply to the PCB announcement thread. But very helpful people like Nick might see if you make your own thread.
If you find someone with some knowledge of the Z architecture (probably the last time those tilesets were updated), they may be able to help
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>>147403191
Yeah, the line breaks just use the \n character instead of \r\n like Notepad expects so nothing shows up right. Like other anons have said, get Notepad++.
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>wheels are harder to fix using mechanics than most engines
Explain this cata devs
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>>147403892
Create an issue.
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RIP Fire cheese.
https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/17522

>Firestarter and extended firestarter merged into one actor
>Whether the action will be extended depends on move cost - it becomes extended if it would cost 200+ moves
>LENS flag obsoleted, is implied by actor parameters now
>Good fuel affects time to start the fire: gasoline or oil will make it start near instantly, paper will halve the time required
>For bad fuels (wood, cotton), the time is increased significantly: starting a shrub/corpse fire with a lighter will take 3 to 5 turns, depending on skill level
>Removed the cost multiplier on fire drills. It always takes charges_per_use now. Camp fire drills become infinite, because 1000 uses is infinite enough.
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>>147404251
Based.
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>>147402681
I prefer his 2hus and idorus, but poptepipic has grown on me.
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>>147404479
Legitimately good edit.
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>>147403695
Will do, I'll make a thread if there seems to be interest/people willing to help on the coding side.
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i dont fucking understand these 2hu comics that are always getting posted
they arent funny
they arent even interesting
is it just one guy obsessed with it or is there an infestation in rlg
pic unrelated
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>>147405098
A bunch of us find them funny. Atleast 3 guys.
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>>147404654
y-you too
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>>147405148
I like them too but haven't been saying anything. >>147404479 in particular is pretty funny to me after the discussion in this thread
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>>147405098
>i dont get it so its bad
ok man
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QUICK, GIVE ME A GOOD RACE FOR A MAULER
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>>147405454
FAIRY
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>>147405454
ANDORD
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>>147405098
Random dude here, I find them amusing, why do you feel the need to explode when something you dislike is posted.
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is there any guide how to play ring? im curious, since i like playing possesor but i want to try something new.
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>Tiles/
>Last Modified 2016-07-04 02:33
>open up folder
>most recent build 2016-07-02 21:12
Where's my build Catadevs.
YOU SAID THERE WAS A BUILD.
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>>147405098
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>>147405724
some advice for ring earlygame
- buy every stinking cloud wand you see. ring spells are pathetic early and these are gonna be your best offense until like level 25 depending on luck
- go down to d:4 or so and spam glimmer until you get a disembodied hand, which has +15 speed and as such is better than anything else you can get. when glimmer summons something you don't want, either attack it or wait for it to pick you up and then dismiss it from the pet menu
- at level 15 you should immediately head to the swamp and get a lizard king. they're slightly slower than the hand but they have like 99x as much hp and won't die to a stiff breeze
oh yeah and
- get used to magic missile being your only efficient and affordable spell.
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>>147405983
is there a way to make myself a macro for easier spellcasting?
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What roguelikes besides dorf fort have factions that are constantly fighting each other even if the player doesn't join in, and will take territory from each other resulting in shifting lines of battle?
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>>147406120
yes
press @
press 4
press tab
press *tmaa or something like it (maybe it's ma1 or m1a? i don't remember how the ring spellcasting menus are structured)

bam now you can press tab to shoot shitty low-damage magic missiles at shit
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>>147406161
None? The majority of roguelikes don't have an overworld for factions to war over, and those that do have overworlds are more like old fashioned JRPG worldmaps.

DDA is the only one that could really include that, and I don't see that happening any time soon.
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>>147406120
>>147406326
oh yeah also pick the option to save the macros to a file or else they'll disappear when you quit the game
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>>147406375
Oh well. I was hoping I could find some DF-likes floating around.
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>>147405983
>>147406326
>>147406426
thanks for all the tips
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>>147406862
oh yeah and pick up all the wands of heal monster or wands/staves of haste monster you find since you're a pet class
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Whats the most fun martial art in dda?

Theres too many of them
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i assume this is good for starter ring
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Man this game is tough.
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>>147407705
it's kind of a pain in the ass though, because smeagol's chance to move randomly still exists while you're riding him

also uniques get 10x as many rolls to see if they throw you off so it's best not to ride them
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>>147407936
i noticed that. i got nami shortly afterwards, and she seems kinda fine for now.
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>first time I find a mutagen potion in cataclysm DDA
>try it
>arms turn into tentacles
>legs turn into tentacles
>become slimy and leave a mucus trail everywhere
I regret everything
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>people still desperately trying to believe dicks hasn't left forever
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>>147406519
The main issue there is that most roguelikes don't simulate things where you aren't.
At best, they'll make time pass in the area once you return (i.e. you enter, it secretly makes a lot of turns pass before placing you in the area).
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>>147409378
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>>147409882
>no threshold for constantly gaining and losing random benemuts jivya-style
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>>147411986
Robust Genetics + Genetically Unstable is as close as you're getting.
But you'll quickly find out that "endless mutations" ends up going south pretty quick, even with robustness.
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>>147412279
i know about that but it's slow as fuck
there needs to be an upgraded version that constantly pumps out new muts
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>>147412458
Then have you checked out the Genetic Chaos mutation?
It's a post-threshold mut for Chimera. I think that's as mut-happy as you're going to get.
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>>147401762
Make it 1024x3072 unless you really, really need those extra tiles. Graphics APIs are optimized for working with powers of two.
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>>147395808
>tfw your trove requires 16 teleport scrolls
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>>147414080
Actually, I guess that's not a power of two, is it? I would recommend splitting it up into two 1024x2048 texture atlases.
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>>147414291
I mean, for what it's worth, Crawl has its tile sheets 1024 wide but arbitrary heights.
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>>147387758
Giant white lice are an immediate tactical nuke or GTFO scenario and have been since Moria. Cheerful Leprechauns are pretty similar.
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>>147392926
>It made nips read Lovecraft's works
Honestly I don't care and lovecraft would have cared even less if a bunch of yellow faced gooks started reading his books.
The only thing I know for real is that this would have made lovecraft cry and is making miyazaki cry RIGHT NOW.
Feel ashamed.
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Why does Actaeon's link have so many fucking dogs? It is LITERALLY impossible unless you have four party members with soul eater.
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>>147415034
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Off to a good start
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DEMON WIN FAGGOTS

Incubi are is fucking insane because of their charm abilities, you just let him loose and he gives huge packs of enemies the D; the resulting chaos over who gets it first absolutely destroys everything. So sad to see it come so late in the game. Also enemy sense is really gud because you can just avoid everything if you have to.

>>147415174
Yea my nigga, you basically have to kite Actaeon all the way to a really good choke point and start with full hp and sp on everyone. Also malingee are good for the link because they block all that shit.
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>>147416363
>those tiles
kill yourself famalam
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>>147416363
Man DCSS got weird
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Now that Junethack is over (where the Amy got two ascensions and a near-ascension, scoring the 4th most trophies of all players and leading her clan to a solid 5th place!), it's time to do some actual work again. A huge amount of commits marks the new version of SLASH'EM Extended - now with less bullshit, because even the Amy herself realized that the game was too unfair! :-)
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>>147417154
>now with less bullshit
won't it be kinda hard to rewrite the whole game from scratch?
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>>147417154
why do you refer to yourself in the third person

it gets kind of grating
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>>147417154
Are you thick?
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>>147417263
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>>147417327
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>>147417524
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someone make a new thicc
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>>147417943
>>147417943
>>147417943
>>147417943

new bread
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>>147417970
>thicclike general
10/10 very funny maymay friend.
I'm making a new REAL general this time.
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>>147418065
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>>147418065
are you that same cuck retard that used to complain about putting /rlg/ in the subject line?
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New, actual thread:

>>147418230

>>147418230

>>147418230

Please ignore the eppin maymay thread

>>147417970
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How do I into Gozag?
I wanna be a Jew Crawler but always fail to do so
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>>147418235
Are you that same moron who thought it would be HILARIOUS XD to make a Chocolate Donut thread?
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don't acknowledge meme threads
filter meme threads
report meme threads
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>>147418319
no
never heard of that game
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