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"Worse MMO than LoL or CS:GO!" Edition.

Elder Thread: >>146886167

>Official news

Dark Brotherhood DLC is out!
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dlc/darkbrotherhood
https://youtu.be/xrIdDh7_TBw

One Tamriel announced (Q4 2016):
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/12/matt-firors-message-from-be3

First DLC dungeon pack coming soon™:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/21/update-11-featuring-shadows-of-the-hist-first-look

>Latest patch notes
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes

>Sales and deals
http://www.dlgamer.us/download-the_elder_scrolls_online-pc_games-p-19435.html (authorized reseller)
http://www.kinguin.net/es/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=elder+scrolls+online (some anons have been using it without issues so far)

>Online lore portal and map
http://www.imperial-library.info/
http://uesp.net/wiki/Online:Online
http://esomap.uesp.net/

>UI addons for PC
http://esoui.com/addons.php

>Assorted links
http://teso-rp.com/
http://esoacademy.com/
http://www.the-elder-scrolls-by-mysticals.com/
http://eso-fashion.com/

>/tesog/ Guilds
[PC NA] message (not whisper) @clv or @the_kyrox for invite
[PC EU] message (not whisper) @the_kyrox for invite
[PS4 NA and EU] message PSN: kibukj. There is also an ESOG PSN community.

>We have a Discord open for every platform:
https://discord.gg/0zy535yopcQNGH6I

>Platform poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10281492
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>>147092814
It's his little brother, I'm trying to make PC "gamer" out of him...

>>147092959
>So are kids just calling any multiplayergame MMO these days?
Pretty much, I kept telling him that he was embarrasing himself, but he kept going about how much he enjoyed "lcs" (something about LoL) and then he asked if some freemium facebook game was a MOBA as well...

He's 16 or 17...
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>>147093328
>He's 16 or 17...

execute him
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>Want to buy ESO sub
>Go to account login page
>Have to enter security code to log in
>Check email
>Get code
>"This code is invalid"
>Resend email
>Try different code
>"This code is invalid"
>Triple check everything
>No copy and paste
>Manually enter brand new code
>"This code is invalid"

Well fuck...guess I won't be buying a sub anytime soon.
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>>147093773
I like that reaction face more.

They're just so incompetent.
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New to the game, enjoying it so far as a Daedric Summoner sorc using Destruction Staves.

Eventually, do you get everything unlocked per class? Or is there a limited amount of Skill Points?
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>>147092873
Literally have had no issues with playing it from steam.
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>>147093882
you'll have over 300 skills points on your first maxed character
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Why am I getting such low FPS? This is highly unusual for my build.
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>>147094045
I would assume it has something to do with server load maybe. I noticed that I was getting some low FPS
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>>147093862
I mean shit I've tried everything, I just want to buy a sub for a few months, but they won't let me into my account, I can log into game just fine, but anything that has to do with the website I'm just completely locked out of

And on top of all that, they won't send me anymore codes to even try, and I can't contact support because it requires you to log in...

And the number just hangs up on you.
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>>147093947
good for you

That piece of shit was downloading the game all over again every fucking week for me
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>>147094512
=/ sorry to hear that anon, shame. Seems like it doesn't affect everyone that way then. Mine is able to update properly even though it was bough through steam.
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>>147094720
Same here, I have ZERO problems with the game on Steam, updates and runs just fine, most of my friends play the game via Steam, and none of them have a single problem.
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>want to enjoy the dungeon's story as I do them for the first time
>"gogogogogogogo!!"
Feels bad man
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>>147093490
H A I L S I T H I S
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>>147094863
Just ignore them. But yea it's pretty shitty.
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>>147094045
wait till you go to pvp and there like 100 people spam casting aoes, you'll drop to -1 fps, hell I tanked for a normal trial for first time today, somehow blagged it even though I haven't tried tanking a vet dungeon, but yeah with 12 people I dropped under 30 which isn't great when you're holding a shield and weaving in attacks trying not to cause the whole team to wipe.
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>>147094863
>playing on console
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> Do a repeatable quest for the Thieves guild
> Steal something, launder it, deliver it
> Gets a box of bailing hook and a motif worth 31.000 gold
And they said crime don't pay lel
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>>147093773
You got an email? I didn't get shit, I'm able to play the game but can't access my account, tried everything, different browser and computer and everything they said to do, NEVER got my access code email

Is there any way to fix this at all?
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>>147095120
Who said anything about console, friend?
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>>147094160
>I can log into game just fine, but anything that has to do with the website I'm just completely locked out of
>and I can't contact support because it requires you to log in
You may have to try the "account compromised" option.
And that's when you get an answer like this:

Greetings,
We apologize that we have taken so long to get back to you in regards to your issue. Due to high ticket volumes, we will be unable to assist you further with this ticket. We understand this may be frustrating and we are disappointed that we are unable to deliver a Customer Service experience that is up to our desired standards. Below is all the troubleshooting we have available at this time.
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Instead of buying a renewing membership is it possible to buy just 30-60 days worth of game time instead of having it set to auto pay?

I always fucking forget to cancel it and it charges me, so are there time cards I can use instead?
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so I played this game during beta and thought it was a joke and pretty much never touched it again until recently. Because of the huge sale, I bought it and I have been playing it recently.

I still think it is by far the worst elder scrolls game in the franchise and one of the worst mmo's I have ever played, but I am actually enjoying the hell out of it. Me and my best friend are playing through it together and it's great. It feels kind of like I'm playing oblivion with my friend. I would describe it as a poor man's oblivion. In a lot of ways, they improved it from it's release and since I know I only payed 30 bucks for it, I can laugh at the janky garbage throughout the game. I would not say it's good, but it's fun in the same way watching the movie "THe Room" s fun but with a touch of nostalgia.
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I just sent a letter to the EU guild leader asking for an invite. Then a realised that it's 1am.
Well fug.
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How do I install this?

What other addons would you recommend?
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>>147096198
I'm on it.
Fucker
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>>147096201
The skyshards and the lore books ones are useful. I know some people like the combat UI addon, but I don't really give enough of a shit about the game to take it that seriously. You can actually see the top addons on the nexus and that will give you an idea of what's worth getting.The other addons you'll just gradually start to find yourself. You might think "god I really wish this was in the game", and you'll google it and find out there is an add on for that
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>>147096201
oops
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>>147095409
mmmm.. anon..
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>>147096198
Kyrox here, I didn't receive it...
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>>147095253
>>147095446

Apparently their costumer service is completely fucked at the moment, to the point where they simply sending out emails saying "sorry, we can't help you". It's a mess.
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>>147096446
get minion
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>>147096540
>>147096198
Got it.

THRIVING
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>>147096201
Here's a list of addons I have installed.
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>>147094863

I'm like CP 200 and haven't done some of the dungeons still because I was a solo player babby for so long and people always just expect me to have done the quests already, very frustrating
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>>147096019
I'm curious, is this possible? I would love to just buy a few membership cards rather than linking a credit card to my account.
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>>147096019
>>147097918

yes, it's possible to buy timecards from resalers like kinguin and g2a. Also your local game store might have them, depending on where you live.
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>>147099282
How would one game from Antartica?
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>>147099282

So if I buy a 60 day game time card from gamestop

http://www.gamestop.com/pc/game-time-cards/the-elder-scrolls-online-tamriel-unlimited-60-day-subscription/122289#productDetails

And redeem it on my account page, it'll give me ESO plus for 60 days?

Sorry for sounding like an idiot, I'm just really paranoid with this kind of thing, got fucked over super hard by Realm Reborn when it came to buying game time cards.
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>>147099691
It has been asked, and I'm interested as well.
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>>147099691
Yep. It's not that they've taken out subscription, it's just that they've changed it so that it's now called ESO+ and gives you a few bonuses along with how the game was originally envisioned, constantly pumping out new content for free for subscribers.
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>>147100036
>for free
>for subscribers

pick one
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>>147100142
this

>>147100036
>along with how the game was originally envisioned
it was envisioned to have more content added from the beginning, don't bullshit.
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>>147100036

Awesome, I'm going to buy that card right now, thanks for the answers, I was paranoid because I heard that old time cards from the original launch were not working anymore and I saw that places still sold them, didn't want to buy one and not have it work

But now that I know that one I linked worked, I'll get right to work setting it up, thanks again.
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>>147092873
So recently picked this up. Want to become a werewolf. Can I only receive the curse through high lvl mobs or can I get it from lower lvled ones? Spent a little while fighting the werewolf in Daggerfall and seems like a waste of time trying to get it from him.
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>>147100527
There are 3 ways.

First is by finding rare werewolf spawns and fighting them. Not just any werewolf will do. Only the special spawns will work.

The second and by far the easier, is to ask another player to turn you. Some people sell werewolf bites for gold, but nothing exorbitant. Some give them away for free. A large guild is a good place to ask.

The third is the way of the goy - see crown store for Werewolf Skill Line. But that's overpriced as fuck. Don't buy. Unless you want to.
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>>146930487
teso-rp.com is the place for you, brother. Super welcoming community there. Make an intro post in the appropriate subforum, include some character details and what you're looking for, advertise your decade+ of lorefaggotry, and you'll get buried in greetings, advice, and invites. Shit's pretty cash.
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>>147100527
There are no werewolves than can infect you in Daggerfall. There's one area in each faction that has spawn locations for werewolves and blood fiends. In EP it's Riften, AD Reaper's March, DC Bangkorai. They can spawn around midnight game time. Werewolf spawns are most likely during in-game full moon and blood fiends during in-game new moon.

You want to get the Destinations addon for the spawn locations and Clock - Tamriel Standard Time for seeing time until next full-moon or new moon.
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>>147101021
Oh cool. What area is the rare spawn located? I assume it'll be a higher lvl'd area. Also is the rare mob constantly camped? Kinda got my fill of looking for rare mobs back in wow.
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>>147101595
>tfw want to be a vampire
>im a tank
;___________;
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>>147101784
>What area is the rare pepe located?
Right here, anon.
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>>147101021
>>147101595
>>147102114
Cool, Thanks for the info.
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So I'm CP 120, and I'm still using a set of CP 30 armor.

Should I buy a new set of armor for 120, or will I get good gear fast enough at 160 for it not to matter? I have 120k gold.

Also, what are the first things I should be doing at CP 160? Just continue doing pledges and random vets?
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>>147099691
WELLLLLLLL FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>Read thread
>See that time cards give ESO plus
>Buy card on Gamestop website
>"This code is invalid or has expired"
>"No refunds"

WHAT A HUGE FUCKING WASTE OF MONEY.
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>>147103685
the fuck!?
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>>147103685
Thats what you get for being paranoid towards sites like kinguin or g2a
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>>147103685

why would you buy it from Scumstop instead of a site like Kinguin?

Kinguin and G2A are both far more trustworthy than Gamestop.
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>>147100142

The DLC is complementary for subscribers. A subscription is really an automatic purchase of 1500 crowns a month.

The other bonuses are sweetening the deal. It's already a pretty good deal. Access to the DLC's, xp/inspiration/gold bonuses, crafting bag, and soon dyeable costumes.

In most games the subscription is for access to certain things in the game. Like if you subscribe in LotRO, you get access to quests in Eriador and the new Gondor zones.

Your $15 a month subscription nets you about $5 a month in cash shop currency.

in TESO, your $15 a month nets you $15 a month in cash shop currency.
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>>147100453
>it was envisioned to have more content added from the beginning, don't bullshit.
That doesn't contradict what I said.
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>>147102626
do whatever
sets are really cheap <160cp now, craft a new set if you'd like- it'll cost you 8k max.
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>CLANK CLANK CLANK WHIRRRRRRRRRR
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>>147092873
What issues does the steam launcher have?
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I'm gonna tank a veteran dungeon in 1st person. Try and stop me.
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>>147105158
I wish you luck anon.
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>Resto staff trait finally finished last night
>Adventure so I can make an upgrade from my level 16 Magnus Staff
>This QT Bosmer chillin'
Was a fair trek here, but well worth the upgrade.
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>>147080287
FUCK, Geodude here
Imma be out at that time. I'll probs be on ~4 or 5 hours from now.
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>>147104518
None, I don't think.

I bought it off steam. Just saw I could save dollars if I get it off G2A.

What happens if I refund the game through steam? Does my ESO account just lose the game key?
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Is there a mod that actually changes first person FOV to something bearable?
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Fucking stuck at work renting movies to fucking redguards when I could be playing with my dude geo and his QT bosmer ass. Feelsbadman
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so can you be a legit healer in this game
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>>147111601
>QT bosmer ass
U wot cunt, Jil is orsimer

How about some ugly Breton ass tho
inb4 fags start asking how to do this. It was a widespread glitch months ago

Also, see >>147108449
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>>147112464
Of course.
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>>147112464
> Legit healer
As oppose to what? Fake healers?
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Does anyone have any advice for a werewolf pvp build? Like medium vs heavy armor, dual wield vs sword/shield before transforming.
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Also, I decided to make a stam sorc and stam templar. One of them is going to be a Khajiit, and the other is either going to be Orc or Redguard. Which race for which class should I choose /tesog/?

I know there's one memer around here who likes sorc Orc, but why?
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>>147110396
I think it's in the settings.
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does this game have nice cosmetics?
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>>147114567
it has a very comfy noble suit
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>>147114287
>I know there's one memer around here who likes sorc Orc

Das me

Stam sorc orc for gotta go fast speed. Make one so I can race you around town.
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>>147115003
Your orc is puny.
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>>147115003
Fun stuff, Zenimax "accidental" banned a stam sorc orc because several people was convinced that he was using a speedhack.
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>>147114287

If you're willing to wait on the Stamplar, make it a Khajiit once they change their racial passives this update.
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>>147115320
NA PC DC?

Say that to my face fucker not online and see what happens.

>>147116252
Yeah I heard about that. Apparently the system will only ban you if you're lagging slightly or something like that. Fengrush wasn't banned and he has a p fast orc. I just gotta be careful around town with my fiord's legacy set and steed mundus stone.
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>>147116603
Yeah Khajiits are going to be best pve stam dps next patch. Their crit passive is already so good.
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>>147116840

>Crit
>Stam recovery
>Max stam

I can't wait.
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>>147112619
Word. Just got off. Dropping off bank deposit. Sorry it's obe that's the qt bosmer. But chu coo too my dude. Be on in like 20
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>>147116252
they also suspended eu's no.1 vma nightblade with their automated cheat detection system. apparently you're not allowed to use refreshing path and sprint, or you're a cheater.
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>>147117702
no talk of my qt dark elf? shame
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>>147117775
Maybe he was a cheater though.
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>>147117917
Who r u nwah? Don't remember playing with a dunmer on the reg
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>>147115003
So it's because sorcs have that major expedition skill, right? Combined with Orc racial.

That sounds pretty fun.

ME ORC. ME FAST. ME RUN. NEVER LAST.
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Been saving since I got the game a week ago
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>>147121325
But why?
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>>147121430
Black horse
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Nothing beats grinding to get the roleplay value! What's this game without RP?
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>>147122253

An MMO
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>>147122849
An MMOG you mean
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>>147121325
with a small loan of 4000 gold
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> Final boss in Seht’s Flywheel
Litterary unkillable. I read you're suppose to nuke it down but there's no way with so many adds
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>>147125231
what class?
i've burnt it with temp, dk, nb, and now levelling a sorc to do the same soon.
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some1 invite me to the guild my id is junejuly
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>>147119796
Orc racial + minor expedition (only sorcs get this) + major expedition (bow roll/ rapids) + medium armour + fiord's legacy + steed mundus stone = sanic speed

>>147126354
NA PC?
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>>147127297
Oh that sucks, I thought the lightning skill gave major expedition but it was only the magicka morph that does.
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looking for a game to play and this is on sale
how is the combat system and is the game worth picking up at all? I'm more into action mmos as opposed to tab targeting and press my rotation hotkeys
I heard it was pretty shit on release but has gotten steady improvements.
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>>147127297
>NA PC

yes
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>>147127642
Hurricane is better because you can stack minor and major expedition. It's a better morph anyway compared to lightning.
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>>147127819
aight I'll invite you in a sec if you haven't been already.
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I just started playing could someone give me a werewolf bite? im on NA PC.
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>>147127678
>I heard it was pretty shit on release but has gotten steady improvements.

The combat is the same as during the beta so if that's not your cut of tea then it's not something for you. No cooldowns (except "ultimates" that technically have no cool-downs but require you to gain ultimate points). 3 resources; health, magicka and stamina. The game uses a soft lock-on system. Sneaking, roll-doge, blocking attacks and just staying away from attacks are essential parts of the game. More experienced players use animation-cancelling.
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>>147125541
Mag sorc. But I'm just venting, I must be doing something horribly wrong because the class got bloody nerfed due to how good it did in vMSA. I'm gonna have a go at it later today.
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1 kuta from writ, another 1 from survey and another 1 from random node in 5 minutes. Thanks RNGesus.
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>>147127834
Yeah but if it would be better if it gave major expedition no questions asked. Other sources of it aren't as reliable/cheap, bow rolls involve rolling, rapids dispels on combat, and potions are expensive.
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>>147130062
I personally prefer it giving minor expedition. It lasts longer than the magicka morph and roll dodging isn't expensive on the first roll. Plus if you're having sustain issues put dark deal on your bar.
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>>147129010
overload and keep up your dots

jace ran through it on a sorc post-db and got a lower score, obviously, but was still in the 560k range.
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>>147096201
Have any of you gotten the reshader mod on the Nexus working? Some of the screenshots looked beautiful.
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Is there any reason why people prefer to test their dps on bloodspawn rather than for example the first boss of normal wayrest sewers? Is it just that bloodspawn has more health or more resistance or something like that? I've been practicing on the first wayrest boss and I'm not sure if it's an accurate reading of what my dps would be.
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Can writs pull items from your bank, or do they need to be in your backpack?
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>>147131885
bloodspawn is for more accurate tests, as for higher dps it's generally very easy to get something like 39k on slimecraw, whereas the same person would pull 28-30 on bloodspawn.

more health= more time on target= more accurate parse.
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>>147132442
Righto, cheers mate
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>>147132296
Pretty sure they need to be in your backpack or the crafting bag if you're subbed.
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>>147132721
if your dps is under <20k then slimecraw's good to use though. generally if your parse is under 35 seconds it's time to start testing your dps on bloodspawn.
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>>147134384
I did a dps test on Slimeclaw and got 21k in 33 seconds.

Guess I'm gonna try Bloodspawn now oh shit:^)
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The store bought costumes, can you use them regardless of your gender? Just need to know for reasons.
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I wish we could join more than five guilds. I want to join one more traders guild but don't want to leave any of my five...
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>>147135992
Yes, you can.
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>>147136052
4 trade, 1 raid or 1 pvp guild desu
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>>147135596
fuck geo, nice

aim for around 50-60 seconds on bloodspawn, and that's about the dps you need to comfortably clear all content.
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>>147136279
1 RP
1 Trials
1 Traders
1 PvE pickup
1 tesog
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>>147136279
>>147136448
What's a Trade guild?
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>>147136634
Guilds that bid on traders in high traffic areas eg mournhold, rawl kha. Gives you a place to sell items.
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>>147136634
The people that run the guild traders you buy all your shit from. If you're a member of the guild that owns the trader, the stuff you put into the guild store goes to that vendor.
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>>147136421
Thanks bro

Imma reach your dps real soon... or pass ya and reach god like dps like this mofo ____:P____ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIF5eKVgVM8

Just gotta get me some maelstrom weapons
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Zone chat is literally worse than Barrens chat.
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>>147138034
That's why you have it disabled >>147096510
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What should I be saving my money up for at low levels?
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>>147140529
Horse and endgame I'd say.
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>>147140825
This, and inventory space
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What are the differences between 10k horses and 42k horses? Apart from visual aspects.
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>>147141151
Just the visual aspects.
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So, as someone who enjoyed Oblivion a whole lot and plays WoW, how enjoyable is this? I've heard a lot of bad things back when it was released and that it ended up flopping but now there are some reviews mentioning how much better it got.
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>>147141151
One makes you laugh at those who have horse for 42k that you have a horse too for 10k and there's no difference but at the same time you'll cry deep down because of how much of a begger you are. The second one makes you laugh at all the beggar travelling on foot or on the cheap ass 10k horse but you'll have trouble holding back tears because you've wasted unnecessary 32k on a horse.

>>147141350
I love Oblivion and I love WoW. The game's awesome but it lost some RPG mechanics as it's MMO but it still feels like Elder Scrolls game pretty much. To compare it with WoW I'd say it makes crafting,questing, exploring much more exciting but it lacks any type of arena whatsoever and there are no duels. It has awesome PvP world similiar to LOTRO one. I'd list more things but I'm lazy as fuck.
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This game uses so much fucking CPU it's actually ridiculous.
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Do writs give you better rewards if you turn in better quality goods?
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I want to fugg this mercenary captain.
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>>147142031
Nope.
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>>147136786
Alcast is based.
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>>147141502

That's cool, I was never that big a fan of Arenas or that kind of PVP regardless. How's the gameplay in general and how much is there to do aside from the exploration and questing? Also, any idea if the game has an RP community at all?
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Which crafting passives should I grab if I'm playing a tank? Was thinking blacksmithing and enchanting, but I'm not completely sure.
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>>147143683
You should level all crafting skills. You will need all of them later down in the line.
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>>147143759
I am leveling them all, well except for alchemy because I can't wrap my head around it and it's too trial and error heavy. I do the dailys every day, but I'm wondering about the passive skill tree since I need to invest points into it to craft higher level items.
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>>147143759
It feels like pain in the ass leveling up and spending skill points in all craft skills on one character. Especially when I will probably never need stuff from clothing or woodwork. Why bother doing that?
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>>147143638
There's like so much to do man, it's incredible. I RP from time to time and I can tell you that you should play Dagerfall covenant to see the highest RP density. Other alliances have RP but you seldom come across it. There is a myriad of emotes you can fuck around with and I recommend dowloading few addons e.g. addon that makes your character act in a certain way if it doesn't move for like 10sec. Back to the gameplay, there are many trials and dungeons for you to do that will challenge your skill and shit. Storylines are good and rewarding. DLCs add loads of nice content if you intend to subscribe. I don't know what else I can say. Should you have more questions, tell me!
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>>147143871
>>147144010
Follow this guide for alchemy. Probs should do it when you're financially stable cus it's gonna cost you some cash to get these items. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr5XzM4o3sM

For blacksmithing, clothing and woodworking, if the way you're leveling them is by deconstructing items (which is the best way), you won't need the keen eye passive and maybe not the x expertise passive (but you will need the x expertise passive later down the line when crafting gear to save money). The extraction passive you could do without if you're tight on skill points. Get the rest of the passives.

As for enchanting, deconstructing runes is again the best way to level it. So you won't need keen eye. Extraction is again a maybe if you're tight on skill points. As for the rest, get them.

I imagine provisioning would be the same as alchemy, so my advice for this will be to follow some youtube guide to power level it.
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>>147144013
DC is booring
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>>147144738
I pretty much steal anything that's not nailed down, being a dirty redguard thief and leveling crafting seems to go well together. Are the hirelings really worth it? I took then, 1 rank, and the return was awful. I'm only level 20 so those points were better spent elsewhere for now.
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>>147145743
>Are the hirelings really worth it?
Yes, because you can get items like this >>147129696 although infrequently.
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>>147144013
Unfortunate that DC has the biggest RP scene when their races are the most boring. I really like argonians and dunmer, but ended up playing on DC because of reguard passives.
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>mfw think a player been following me trying to learn my safebox run
>wounder how the fuck she following me while I'm blasting around 90%+ mount speed
>It's the fucking smuggler assistance I summoned an hour ago
Wow I'm fucking dumbass, I wondered why they weren't talking to me
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>>147144738
God bless guides. Doing writs at low levels is awful.
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>Want to play
>have to go shopping to get ready for my move

Fuck responsibilities
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how the fuck does this game need 60GB ?????
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>>147150008
voice acting
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I'm subbed, like my current mount and don't like any of the costumes. What do I do with the crowns?
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>>147153415
Either wait 'till something cool comes or buy the DLC's so you have them even if you unsub.
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>>147150008
It's a fuckhuge world
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>>147153415
Motifs? Pets?
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>>147150008
It's a fully voice-acted MMO. MMOs by nature tend to be fuckhuge installations. Voice-acting is a huge part of any normal game. Combine the two and you get a 60GB installation very, very easily.

We live in an age of terabyte drives though. Space shouldn't be an issue.
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>>147154525
affordable terabyte ssd when
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>>147132296
>>147133391
When crafting you can access mats in your bag or your bank.
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>>147154676
when samsung and or tsmc get to 7nm, or maybe even this generation
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So close I can almost smell the max level gear, and comedy mats required to make it.
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>>147128882
ah I meant the game overall had a bad rep on release, not the combat. My bad
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>>147153678
kitbashed as fuck.
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>>147154676
I have a 1T SSHD. I can't tell any difference in game from when I had everything on an SSD.
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what is the best/funnest class for pve in eso i just got this game and i dont want to make my buddy wait an hour for me to create a character
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>>147157770
all of them

just kidding its nightblade
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Earlier:
>trying to get a fishing achievement, need blue fish
>spend hours fishing
>no blue fish
>green fish coming out of my ass, bag full of fish fillets
>fuck, I don't even eat this shit
>give up and go to another zone to kill shit
>see a fishing hole, drop in a hook
>two blue fish in a row
RNG is not supposed to work this way.

Later:
>digging around in my bag
>feel something slimy
>wtf, did some fetcher take a shit in my bag when I wasn't looking?
>pull out my hand
>[Perfect Roe]
>gobs of it
>I wonder if it's worth anything?
My emote when I check the going rate.
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The DB personality animations bugged, now I'm holding my 1h sword backwards. Neat.
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>>147157770
I think sorcs are the most fun to play. All the lightening and shit. It's all ranged though and the melee in this game is fun too.
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When does this game get more fun? I joined the DC, went through the tutorial levels, and I'm in Daggerfall just messing around. The crafting is annoying because of the scarcity of ore, the armor is kinda boring looking, and the quests play like a more boring Elder Scrolls. Also other players wandering around leaving bodies everywhere and inhabiting "hidden" dungeons is pretty dumb
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>>147158957
You get what you see. Get outta here. No one finds ore for crafting, and its everywhere if you REALLY start looking for it
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>>147158763
Check out this Master Wizard and his novel staff technique.
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>>147158957
You can deconstruct gear into raw materials, that should sort your crafting issue. Armor looks depend on the race and the motif you craft them in, I personally think that this game has some of the best looking heavy armor, nothing over the top, just perfect.
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>>147158957
Depends on what you like to do for fun. Get out of the city and out into the world and see what's going on. Find a delve or a dolmen or a public dungeon.
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Is the Persuade passive from the mages/fighters guild worth it?
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>>147159750
It saves a little extra work once in a while when questing. If you're in a hurry it's worth it, otherwise maybe not. I usually take it.
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What is the most valuable thing to buy in the crown store?

I have 1,700 crowns.
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>>147160097
Persuade and intimidate shouldn't be in guild skills imo. Maybe in racial or world skills.
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>>147160471
Buy something that looks good with or on your character/favorite race.
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>>147160471
DLCs if you don't have them.
Otherwise get skimpy clothes for your waifu.
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>>147160471
I don't think anything has real value, maybe the mounts since they save you gold? I personally bought a Guar mount
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>>147161140

yeah I'd say get a mount over a costume. For 1700 crowns you can get some of the cheaper mounts anyway like the horses and guar.
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http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2015/11/23/celebrate-black-fredas-with-big-sales

Are there good deals like this anymore?
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Dungeon finder bugged again? I just wanna do my daily ;-;
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>>147163267
There deals now and again like a week or two ago, it was 50% off xp scrolls, but I would guess they save proper sales like that one for events like Christmas, etc.
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Since the Mages/Fighter/Thieves Guild quests scale, should I save them for 50?
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>>147164425
I'm saving them until CP160. Ditto the main story quest.
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can you fine fellows recommend me some addons? Mainly something that displays buffs/debuffs
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>300 hours logged
>never broke lvl 30

help i cant stick with the same character
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I just got the thieves guild DLC - does this story line get any better? bored as fuck right now.
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>>147164698
Srendarr for the most detailed customizing of buff display.
AUI has good buff display as well.
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>>147168508
>srendarr
been looking for that, thanks.
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>>147166309
Nah, if political intrigues isn't you thing you won't enjoy the rest.
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Does NA have a tabard yet? I'm not seeing one in the store.
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If you could go back and give some advice to yourself on your first day of playing, what advice would you give?

I'm just about to start playing for the first time.
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>>147177283
Start researching straight away. The moment you've some left-over gear and find an anvil go and research that shit.
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>>147177457
sounds gay. I don't like that aspects of MMOs, I just like to fight and get sweet gear
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>>147177283
Spend a few hours learning to use the combat system properly before adventuring. Comboing dots, attacks and finishers, blocking, dodging, interrupting etc. I came came from the single player games and got btfo'd because the combat in ESO is more complex.
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>>147177547
But you're still gonna invest in crafting, right?
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>>147178160
why would i

>>147177686
>spend a few hours doing boring shite before having fun
no
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Former SWG player here

I bought the game. despite thinking I shouldn't. Been downloading at 400/kbs for like a full 24 hours now, what the fuck? Why.

Steam and GOG download in /mbs and literally never this slow.
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>>147178441
>Steam
There's your answer
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>>147178583
I'm using their native launcher to download the game. I purposefully avoided buying it on Steam because I hate Steam.

I can surf the web, or play an online game and still download at a steady 400/kbs but it never goes beyond that. I'm guessing it's not connecting through all the ports?
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>>147178731
There are a number of reasons that could cause this such as ESO's somewhat bad servers or many new players joining in a small amount of time. But who knows, i've always had my download speed higher then 1/mbs and been happy with it.
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>>147178271
>a few hours doing boring shite before having fun
he just means be aware of and try to use the useful parts of the combat system as you play. If you pay attention to it early on for a few hours, it will become second nature. Do it while having fun.
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>that one friend that does fuck all when you play and bitches about dying in dungeons while being 5 levels below everyone else
>same friend is always on fucking roblox when you get online
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>>147178271
>ask for advice for new players
>they give it to you
>lolno i juz wanna swingu my sworddddd
Good luck fag.
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>>147179398
>roblox
what do you expect, you are friends with literal children.
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>>147179641
He's 23.
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>>147178992
I appreciate the insight? If I completely exit out of the installer will I lose my progress? I might try a reboot or something but I'm afraid of having to start over. Only 8 giggers left.
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What is the new best guide to power level now? Want to know for a new alt
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>>147179408
>get advice
>think it's bad advice
>say what i think
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>>147178271
>why would i
Most end-game setups involves crafted gear or potions.
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does this game have a subscription or not? I'm seeing both it does or doesn't
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>>147182965
Both. It does but it doesn't.
It's optional sub that lets you play the DLC's and few other minor bonuses.
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Bump to save bread

Which is the best RoP morph? Remembrance or Practiced Incantation?
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Daily reminder that Daggerfall on Azura's Star on PC EU is pure unadulterated cancer.
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Anyone online to invite into the guild?
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this place is so fucking dead

come on ya cunts
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>>147185232
People are playing. I'm just posting because I'm assblasted over whoever the fuck that thought Shuffle was a good idea and ragequited. This is how I imagine the conversation went:

> Hey lads so there's some shit in the lore here about being-here and being-there. I don't get it but can we shoehorn it in somehow? Have something to do with that country called "Elsewhere".
> Sure. All Khajiits are stamina-users anyway and we're gonna keep it that way by buffing the already strongest class because this ones fuck cats on a daily basis
> Brilliant, let's make an ability that allows them to be-here except when they may be taking damage, then they'll be-there and laught at your silly attempt. We can probably just say the Khajiit god of banditry stole the projectiles mid-air or something.
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>>147185957
Is Shuffle some new ability or what?
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>>147186095
Now but now when stamina is the new meta everyone and their mother uses it, even people in heavy and light armour, just because it is so good.
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Orcs are the cutest
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Battlegrounds when?
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>>147174131
i go make one
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>spend 2-3 days downloading the game
>it wont even launch
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>>147189823
Did you DL it from steam?
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I love having to hack into the fucking mainframe every time I want to play a fucking videogame. Look at this shite:


If you are running Windows 8.1, you will need to run the game in compatibility mode for Windows 8. But first, we will need to run the system in Selective Start up.
To put the computer in selective start up:

1) Press the Windows key to enable the start button and type msconfig on the search box
2) Right click on the msconfig.exe program and choose Run as administrator
3) To place your computer into selective start up:
a. On the General Tab at the top, click on the Selective startup radio button
b. Uncheck "Load startup items"
4) Click on the Services tab at the top
a. On the Services tab check the Hide all Microsoft services check box at the bottom
5) Click the Disable all button at the bottom
6) Click Apply, then click OK
7) Restart your computer
After Running the computer in selective start up, you will now need to put the game into compatibility mode for windows 8.0:
1) Right Click on The Elder Scrolls Online application.
2) Click Properties.
3) Click the Compatibility tab.
4) Check the box "Run this program in compatibility mode".
5) Choose Windows 8.0
6) It may also be necessary to check the box for "Run this program as an administrator."

Ensure that Automatic configuration Script and Proxy Server are disabled in your Internet options. These settings can be found by following the steps below:
Open your Control Panel
Select Internet Options
Click Connections on the top panel
Select LAN Settings
From here ensure that Automatic configuration Script and Proxy Server are disabled (unchecked). Once the settings are applied, please retest the issue
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>>147191931
?
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>>147192519
My game isn't working, this is all the shite I need to do in order to get it working.

I'm not sure it's even worth bothering desu, might just get a refund.
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>>147178731
start the launcher as an admin
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>>147158610
>RNG is not supposed to work this way.
No, but I think fishing does.

fishing holes in different locations and with certain baits will yield a different set of results.
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Is it possible to play a DK archer or a dual weapon DPS?
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>>147092873
Anyone know of any heavy armors that aren't so... Skin-tight?

Preferably not Altmer or Dominion.
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>>147194097
Sure, game's not that restrictive
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>>147194097
Yeah, those are called stam dks. Very high dps in this meta.
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>>147194514
http://eso-fashion.com/
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Maw of the Infernal Helmet,
Rings of Fasalla
Rings of Fury.

Better luck next week guys.

Also, is anyone elses captchas fucking up?
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>>147194913
How much does the actual class affect my choice of weapon, if at all? Will a stam DK with a bow have more/less damage than a stam NB with a bow?
I kind of went with 2 handers since I figured it'd fit a DK more, but I'm getting curious about other weapon choices.
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>>147195537
eehhh, don't really know cus I don't play one. I just know they pull really high numbers.

Check this out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfvVR048v9A
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>>147191931
Or you could just run ESO in compatibility mode. The selective start up is not needed. Been there, done that
i don't wanna sound harsh, but even if you find a solution for a problem, you should think what benefits YOU.
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Does anyone have some advice on selling things in the guild store? I tend to specialize in selling blue provisioning recepies but I'm looking to branch out into other more profitable stuff. Dont wanna do resources considering the shitshow that is Hew's Bane right now.
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>>147197491
Just sell whatever you don't need.

Assuming you're in a guild with a well placed merchant, almost anything you list will eventually sell. Blue provisioning recipes don't sell in large quantities or for that much. If you want to make actual dosh, go farm motifs and rarer set pieces (get in a guild that you can grind trials with, for example), or if you're really autistic and want to play EVE: ESO edition, join like 3 or 4 trading guilds, watch this video and try to replicate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffZfbi-wjto
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>>147197491
Once you've enough money you can start buying and selling jewellery. But you should watch out for several things; right after a campaign ends there will be a lot of Rings of ability and the like on the market since a lot of people got them as rewards.

And the August patch will introduce jewellery-pieces of previous PvP gear, meaning you'll be able to do 5/5 with gears you previously couldn't. I'm not sure how this will affect the market but I'm suspecting we'll either see a drop in sale of Rings of Agility and Willpower or we'll see their prices lowered to be more companionable.

The Agility, Endurance and Willpower jewellery sets works as a gold standard towards which all new jewellery will be compared.
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I bought the game on steam a few days ago, and haven't had a problem with the launcher. What's wrong with it?
Why does everyone shit on Argonians?
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>>147199278
It didn't download properly and had me redownload it all again, it prompts you to build crown on steam. It's messy.
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>>147199278

Because the Loremaster have a soft spot for them and have made them into "muh ancient civilizations so powerful they self-destruct due to how powerful they are and are stuck in an endless cycle of growing until they implode upon themselves".

They're like scaly dwemer but instead of fucking with the heart of Lorkhan they skipped the middle-man and fucked around with Sithis, and instead of just vanishing they kill their connection with the Hist. They're reaching Mary Sue status very fast.
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>>147199271
The recepies work well for me. I generally sell them for between 2500 - 3000 each. The rarer ones I sell for more and on occasion Ive managed to pick up the V15 purp recepies for cheap like the longfin pasty in melon sauce at 20k. As for guild membership. I sorta already do belong to multiple guilds. 1 is just me and my buddies, 1 is a Craglorn staple mega guild, and the other is a recently joined mega guild thats all over the place but currently in Rawl'ka this week.

>>147199271
Ive been considering going into the sets market. Recently acquired a helm of morihaus for dirt cheap and put up for 15,000 still hasnt sold yet. Had a similar issue with an Akaviri legs motif i nicked for 45k and put up for 60k. Eventually learned it after it stood up for a month.

I'll look into the rings sets though
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>>147195925
what healthbar is that guy using i don't want to ask on the video like a tard
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>>147200145
Ehhh I have a feeling its going to play out more like the mayan/aztecs that they based the Saxhleel-Argonian civilization off of. By this I mean a combination of small Xanmeer centered city states worshipping archaic gods kind of like argonian trinimacs but with more blood and sacrifice.

As for the doomsday scenario I would have to bet that its something economic in origin that was a key part of their culture and when the supply of it ended the Saxhleel machine started breaking down at which point the elites started resorting to darker magics to keep the status quo.
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>>147159142
Let me show you the way of my people
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>>147200145
Loremaster doesn't understand TES one goddamn bit, he's fucking terrible
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> Bal Foyen
> Decide to save the forest instead of the dock
> Later find that in fucking Riften of all places you cross path with the mother of one of the refugees you allowed to die. She went mad after the death of her daughter and joined the worm cult because they told her she could still be saved.
Also

That was as bad as the quest with the dunmer maid that simply don't have a happy ending no matter what you do.
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>>147202447
I think it's FTC
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>>147174131
What's with the Seht symbol
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>>147177283
get into a trading guild, gold is necessary
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>>147206590
This. People seem to really underestimate how useful they are.
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>>147207192
>>147206590

how do you trade to make max cash? just sell things on your guild's store?
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>>147208302
Yeah, I usually just sell things a little below market price. Reporas used to be a great thing to sell but they've suddenly stopped.
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>>147199278
Because argonians belong to the salt rice fields
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As a Dark Elf Dragonknight that wants to specialize in dual wielding, what kind of armor should I probably use?
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>>147209261
Medium or Heavy is usually the go-to for stam builds.
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Threadly reminder that the NA guild is bretty based and clv,obe,and geo are my dudes.

I swapped to heal/dps dK and shit is cash money. Most fun I've had yet.
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>>147209394
Is there a ratio of how where I should put my attribute points for my build? Mostly in stamina?
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>>147210319
all stam.
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>>147210381
Is it still worth putting points into my class skills like Ardent Flame/Draconic Power/Earthen Heart, or should I just focus on dual wielding/armor stuff?
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>>147210483
Poison claw, noxious breath, standard of might
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>>147197491
>>147208302
My main source of income is from selling refined mats and equipment with traits. It also helps to be in a good trading guild in a populated area.

>>147209497
Hello friend
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>>147210483
>>147210597
and fighter's guild trap beast and flawless dawnbreaker

so yeah mostly dw/bow skills
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>>147211068
Hello. Stuck at work till like midnightish. Fuck my shit senpai. I just wanna do dungeons and level
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>>147203259
Are you using an ENB? That looks good.
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>>147212305
M8, you and obe hurry up and level so we can do pledges together and get sick drops.

I will even make a new character just so I can grind with you up to 50 lmao. But you can go at your own pace.
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>>147189823
your pc is probably shit or you are retarded and not using the direct executable
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>>147212745
Nigga I'm tryin. I'm at like 37 I think on my way home
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>>147214782
Noice. 8 more levels and you can start doing silver pledges.
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>>147215232
Wtf are those nigga
Also I made a stam sorc today and did newbie island. Bretty fun.
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>>147215468
Daily dungeon quests that give keys to chests that contain rare items such as undaunted sets.

>I made a stam sorc today
Kek, fuckin race me bro
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>>147215791
>>147215468
but how fast is the dps?

:^)
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>>147216047
What did he mean by this?
>>147215791
Also fucking race with me to max out faggit
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what the hell do I use my skill points on? I'm playing a templar and I want to use two handed weapons. Is there a way to play a paladin-esque character in terms of skills? I'm new as fuck send help
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>>147216287
If you're lowor just leveling grab one from each tree so they level so later you can swap around without having to grind skill lines. Same for weapons u wanna use
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>>147216047
P average right now, see >>147135596 but I'm on my way up.

>>147216112
>race with me to max out
wat
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How much does race matter in this game? Will I be gimped playing a breton nightblade instead of the furry people?
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>>147216617
Idk being gay af. Aka level with me so we can max out fast AF
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sexlab when?
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>>147218137
never, this game is too pg

>>147217856
yes, you will, but not by a large margin. someone pulling bad numbers on a khajiit nb wouldn't suddenly be good if they were a dunmer nb
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>>147092873
I'm a 156cp EP sorceror tank.

Got 10 piece, full set of legendary heavy armor fasalla's guide and of fury sets.

Currently just running dungeons, converting all my magicka and stamina into health - trying to stay alive.
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>>147217856
ye when you get to vet levels we can party up, get dat xp and cash money.
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>>147217850
check the attributes for each before you pick dipweed

>>147216287
bra put skills into your armor, two-handed, provisioning for food, and your magicka skill lines. its terribly simple...
Also no idea what you mean by Paladin, templar class is best known for being best healer class. but you could technically do anything, just not to absolute perfection.

>>147204625
I stopped paying attention to the dialogue in quests after finishing all of EP. Then I grinded them all till i got Tamriel Hero.

>>147121325
I saved 300k since the start of them game just to buy a full leg set. Beat that.
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Which class is the most fun (in your opinion) if you're going stam based? I'm trying to choose between a sorcerer/dk with 2h/bow, or a nightblade with dual wield/bow. Also would my friend and I be able to duel each other in between quests or is PvP only a thing in Cyrodiil?
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>>147222810
I'd say Nightblade.
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>>147222810
dk dw
no duellies
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crown store is literal cancer
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Anyone in a trading guild with MM on PC NA, able to price check on robust agility 160 ring? They don't actually sell for almost 200k, r-right?
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This is just a grind, grind for gear, do dungeon pledge for gear, boring
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>>147226167
Literally every MMO is a grind
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so is hunding's rage still the go too set for a stamblade? what about for the other slots, helm and shoulders being some sort of undaunted dungeon stuff I'm sure, vma weapons, agility rings and neck?
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>>147226167
>What is MMO and how do I do it
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>>147226557

also I've been leveling using a night's silence set.. I'm kind of tempted to make a CP150 version of the set cause it'll be cheaper just for running around questing and stealing and shit. It's really nice to have no stealth penalty.
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>>147145436
I know man. I can't make myself actually cap a char on DC.

>>147146616
Ikr. Even though you can play an argonian on DC, it is boring as fuck. EP ftw.

>>147180954
Just do all the dolmens, delves, main quests and grind and you should be good yo.
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>>147204625
>play cloacahurt, old Argonian sorceress also a daedric cultist
>Get the choice to save the fort full of nords or the dock with the dunmer
>Save the nords purely because "fuck dunmer"
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wew lad
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How deep into the Dark Brotherhood questline would I need to go to get the blade of woe?
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>>147235173
Just the first quest.
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>>147235173
Accepting the first quest.
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>>147226167
You're wrong.
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>>147226167
I'm not sure what you're saying it's opposed to.
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I think costumes should be removed from Cyrondiil PvP, just like pets. Does anyone agree with me?
P.S. character bios when?
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Mages Guild quest is pure shit and lorebreaking in the most literal sense of the word.
How the fuck did Shalidor just set up "an enchantment" that breaks the rules of all planes and souls and resurrection in general? Generally why the fuck is time travel such a simple thing that is done by every adept mage when we know for a fact that just to get a glimpse of past you need to go through fucking shenanigans that will probably involve Elder fucking Scrolls, while time travel itself is fucking Pelinal/overpowered Dova levels of power and it has huge repercussions not to mention possible dragonbreak.
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> It's the "Get to the Planar inhibitor and one dps don't understand how to close portals" gold pledge
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>>147236982
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Explain yourself, son.
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>>147236982
Shalidor was a fucking powerful mage. His power level was fucking high. Probably the strongest "mortal" of Skyrim's history. What happened to him btw. Did he die? Haven't played TESO mages guild yet.
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>>147237462
Shalidor literally created an enchantment to return him from dead from Aetherius, which is impossible. These are one of the most important rules in TES and the reason why unlike ESO you don't see 20 thousand ghosts as NPC's, because once the soul departs it's the end of line, resurrection and "return from Aetherius" is impossible...especially if said soul went to dreamsleeve.
We are talking about enchantments that are more powerful than anything we have ever seen before, this is Akatosh's covenant level of power.
>>147237487
>Shalidor was a fucking powerful mage. His power level was fucking high.
Yeah nah, fuck off, he is not any more powerful than Mannimarco that literally became a God of Necromancy or Psijic order in which any member can nonchalantly stop time. The only way they could have gotten away with it if they would have mentioned the fact that he apparently "stole the secret of life from Akatosh" and maybe expanded upon that, but that is never mentioned in ESO, he just says
>Lol enchantment that returns me if shit goes down
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>>147236916
I understand about pets, but why costumes?
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>>147237487
>>147237845
And this generally goes for majority of fucking quests in ESO that relate to existing events/lore, some faggot just makes a portal to past and you get to see something through the eyes of the guy in past or some other stupid shit like that.

I mean in the most recent game, to get a glimpse of the past we had to go to the point where time itself was fucking ripped apart because of Alduin's banishment, then we had to get an Elder Scroll and then we had to get the help of the oldest Dragon aspect after Alduin to get the glimpse of past with said Elder Scroll while standing in a fucking time anus.

I just can't stop being mad, every time I calm myself down and start enjoying ESO again some stupid shit happens that is absolutely inexcusable.
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>>147237951
How about its easier to look into the past because we're in the 2nd era?
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>>147237845
Shalidor also build winterhold with a spell and fought legions of dwemer, alone. But I agree with those silly quests. Fucking WoW tier:
>lol it' magic and it happens just because magic lol.
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Is it possible that a sacrament smuggler's den target doesn't spawn? I've killed the secondary target and went through the entire map at least 5 times, and I can't find the guy
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>>147238464
There is a hidden path.
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What is the faction /esog/ guild plays on for NA PC? Just coming back and been leveling my cat dragonknight, just hit 49. Tried to start a nightblade as they are more my style but can't be bothered to level. Leveling in this game is ass.
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>>147238516
where?
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>>147238568
We are spread between the 3. I think the most common is EP though. Then DC then AD.
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>>147238193
Asspull, Dragons are literally attuned to time, I doubt he would have much trouble to look into past at any time if it was this easy.

Worst part is that I really enjoy ESO until I encounter this shit.

There could be a possible Dragonbreak so most of events in ESO will be rendered nonsensical Akatoshian fuck ups if that is so, which will calm me down.
>>147238287
>Shalidor also build winterhold with a spell and fought legions of dwemer, alone. But I agree with those silly quests. Fucking WoW tier

I am not saying it's not impressive, I am just saying that there are greater wizards out there.
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>>147238516
>>147238613

seriously, where? I still can't find anything
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>>147238613
Wait a sec.
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FUCKING IMMERSION BREAKERS. THEY SHOULD BE OBLITERATED.
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>>147239227
Here,
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>>147240463
rate my immersiveness
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>>147241949
What the fuck are you even?
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>>147241949
At least you have a normal horse (I fucking hate when non-argonian or non-dunmer rides a guar etc.). Is your name lore friendly?
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>>147240935
thanks

I don't know how the fuck was I supposed to find that shit on my own
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Hey, I'm a lorefag that started playing recently. I am also looking for some rp whenever anyone has free time, I might finally fulfill my rp dream of starting a cult on Nirn.
I roleplay as a mad follower of Shezzar and usually stand near the chapel in Wayrest.
If you want some mad ramblings or ingame lore discussion/roleplay hit me up.
@Lorkhatosh
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>>147241949
>you can cosplay Galactus
Sign me the FUCK up.
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>>147242792
I'll see you when One Tamriel hits ;)
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>>147186360

This. It's way too good and it news a rethink. All of the RNG evasion abilities are bullshit and need to be redone. I'm okay with the evasion think being on sets but the abilities need to be redone.
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>>147242314
"Hey, this maelstrom color looks really retarded. Let's see how bad we can make this look!"

>>147242487
I don't have any non-horse mounts. Name is lorefriendly because my original intention for this character wasn't "Princess Rainbowsatan".
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>>147158610

Fishing is so bullshit. Like I get that it's supposed to be relaxing and intrinsicly rewarding but blowing hundreds of pieces of bait without catching a single blue fish is retarded. Master Angler would take YEARS to achieve at the rate I'm going and I'm just trying to get the Gold Coast fishing achievement because I'm an autist who has to 100% dlc
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Can someone give me some lvling tips for an Imperial Nightblade? Should I lvl stam (prefer to) or magicka? What weapons should i mainly use?
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Damn.
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>>147238817
There absolutely will be a Dragonbreak at the end of ESO, similar to Daggerfall, so all the factions will "win" in the end. Only way I see forward.

Although, it's not as if the ESO lore is "bad". It's practically a tradition by now that the next game in the series alters/changes the history of previous games.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/4lvx5s/the_elder_scrolls_online_dark_brotherhood_blood/d3rfcj8
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>>147244278
>There absolutely will be a Dragonbreak at the end of ESO, similar to Daggerfall, so all the factions will "win" in the end. Only way I see forward.
>win
No they don't, in 300 years during Tiber's conquest all factions clearly do not win, in fact they all fail and another Dominion manages to spring up.
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>>147244278
>Although, it's not as if the ESO lore is "bad". It's practically a tradition by now that the next game in the series alters/changes the history of previous games.
It alters it in a shitty way, I am okay with alterations, Redguard and Morrowind were full of them.
Doing generic blatant shit because it's an mmo and it's easier that way is what I hate.

I also hate ESO constantly trying to push ALL OF THE IMPORTANT ITEMS AND PEOPLE EVER MENTIONED into it's quests, it has no subtly.

And no I am not just "hating", I can elaborate on every single aspect of ESO that I dislike.
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>>147244667
I guess by "win" I meant the outcome doesn't involve one faction triumphing over the others. Yeah I know Tiber comes in and cleans up later anyway so point is moot.

I could see alternatively see DC falling apart because of events in Orsinium and EP falling apart because their enemies no longer represented factions. Only thing left is for something to screw up AD (Veiled Heritance comes back?) and EP won't have a reason to exist anymore. Then Tiber comes and cleans up.

>>147244925
>Doing generic blatant shit because it's an mmo and it's easier that way is what I hate.
As opposed to turning Oblivion Cyrodiil from jungle into generic bullshit countryside because it was easier/cliche?
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>>147165718

Don't worry anon it took me 600+ hours before I got to CP160 on a character
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>>147245469
>As opposed to turning Oblivion Cyrodiil from jungle into generic bullshit countryside because it was easier/cliche?
You are telling this to a person who shitposted in every Oblivion thread since it's release about no Jungle. Hell fuck removal of Jungle, where the fuck are distinct Colovnian and Nibenese cultures?

But are you seeing a pattern here? I, and hopefully other people that parrot shit, just hate bad and unoriginal shitty changes.
The problem with ESO is that lore that it introduces is large and touches almost every aspect of TES and usually it just presents lore and all of the setting in a very simplified MMO quest compliant structures with time portals being opened left and right and people returning from Dreamsleeve just because.
I do not deny that there are good lore additions but I am saying that ESO is more damaging to lore as a whole and I hope that EVERYTHING in ESO other than it's good additions will be absolutely ignored and put under a rug.
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>>147181629

It's not bad advice. It's what literally everyone in this thread would tell you and any end game player would tell you the same. Learn how to fight stuff good and craft or you're going to have a bad time later
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>>147236982
>Generally why the fuck is time travel such a simple thing that is done by every adept mage when we know for a fact that just to get a glimpse of past you need to go through fucking shenanigans that will probably involve Elder fucking Scrolls

I've always handwaved travelling since the prophet claimed you're a "wound in time", and could use time rifts and such without disintegrating, while lacking a soul being a cop out explanation when needed. The only quest I remember where someone else but yourself travel trough time it was the one where they ended up reliving the same 10 minutes over and over again.

And the Dark Brotherhood DLC introduced that the Hist see the past as if it's the present.

If you find escaping the Aetherius gets you triggered you're in for a hell of a time if you finish the DC storyline.
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>>147165718
I'm in the same boat, anon. been playing for a month and furthest I got was level 34.
narrowed it down to nightblade, but can't decide between stamina and magicka
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>>147243262
I've never seen anyone use Lingering Flare from the Alliance war support skilline. Add a Stumble debuff that reduce evasion, give Major Stumble on Lingering Flare and give Minor Stumble to whatever class that have abilities that can easily be dodged.
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>>147247021
>And the Dark Brotherhood DLC introduced
>introduced
Hist perception of time is lore 101, that is present even in Argonian language, Jel.
Hist are also kalpic survivors and one of the strongest entities to ever exists, that what differentiates them from a random mages guild student.
>If you find escaping the Aetherius gets you triggered you're in for a hell of a time if you finish the DC storyline.
Tell me, what awaits me...please.
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>>147233097

Tfw I'll never finish a trial
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>>147248192
Nah the DB thing was barely anything, you're only looking like 10-20 years into the past? The Shadowscale temple was cool though, lovely to look at (but the storyline was ehhh).

Don't spoil, let him get triggered XD
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So how significant is the 1% bonus AP passive for Bretons? has there been talk about changing it? if not, do you think it'll really matter that much?
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>>147248192
>>147248192
>Hist perception of time is lore 101, that is present even in Argonian language, Jel.
Where was this established? I thought only the fact that Jel didn't have time-specific variations of verbs was established, not that the Hist literary view the past events as if they're part of the present.
>>147248192
>Tell me, what awaits me...please.
You travel to the Far Shores and back while bringing someone back from it. Or rather, you're allowed to by someone whose name I've forgotten.
Added spoilers
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>>147249229
>XD
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This Alliance War is confusing as fuck. I just want to get my War Horn and get the fuck out.
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>>147243846
Anyone?
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>>147249445
But...why?
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>>147249774
Well as imperial stamina is better (you have a stam bonus as racial, duh). As DD put all attribute points into stamina. Use a bow and a 2h or dual wield weapons. If you can, get Vigor from the PvP assault skill tree for the only really good stam heal. The nightblade skills Death Stroke, Assassin's Blade, Teleport Strike, Grim Focus, Veiled Strike and Drain Power all have stamina morphs, you should get those sooner or later. You probably won't use all of them but they'll help a lot.
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>>147249774
Starting out, try DW, 2h and bow then pick one and stick to it. You'll get the ability to swap to a second weapon/skill bar at level 15 so you can start working up your second fave. Builds in here are pretty all or nothing, no real point in going hybrid so you should go either all Stam(recommended if you're Imperial) or all Mag.
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>>147249730
have the same feel with caltrops
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>>147250150
>>147250343
Thanks this helps a ton!
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Shit. I should have started with a DPS, not a tank. Learning the dungeons as a noob tank makes me feel bad for the rest of my group.
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>>147252661
I think it's more fun that way though, trial by fire. But I think if I encountered those """"""healers"""""" that don't actually heal my first few dungeons, I would've been pretty dissuaded.
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>>147253323
It's a lot of fun. I just don't like making people explain stuff and slowing the group down.
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>>147249970
Because being something that shouldn't exist and on top lacking a soul means you don't get trapped the way others do. And apparently because whoever decide what happens in the Far Shores decided for it.
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>>147254225
What does Emeric have to do with this? Is he a fucking Soul Shriven? No? How the fuck did he get revived?
Tall Papa has nothing to do with resurrection, it's well established that all attempts of revival in history resulted very badly, at best they create a mad screaming version of whoever got resurrected, at worst some horrible abomination is born.
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>>147254225
>>147256318
Can you explain approximately how it happens? How do you even travel to Aetherius? Reman II had to make the whole mananout fucking moth ship travel bullshit to get there.

See the issue I am having with ESO? It's just making all lore fucking simplified for the sake of shitty MMO tier quests. This stuff is supposed to be grand and super sacred, yet ESO throws random references to hisotrical figures and lets you travel to fucking planes like Jone and Jode every other quest.
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once an ability is morphed, does it's rank matter?
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>>147256735

yes, increasing ranks increases the damage/healing/duration and shit
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>>147256565
>Can you explain approximately how it happens? How do you even travel to Aetherius?

An Imperial Necormancer traps Emeric in the Far Shores to lure you into entering it. Said Necromancer knows you're a Shoul Shriven and as such can't die on Nirn or Oblivion, so her plan is to trap you for all Eternity on the Far Shores.

You travel trough is by some old Redguard ruins where you have to go trough several trials to show you're worthy of entering. You also make a deal with the Keeper of the Hall, some sort of entity that keeps the entrance in check and wields enough power to send back people from the Far Shores.


I found some youtube videos of the quests in question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWDVwcx5P9I
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>>147257779
Soul Shriven is not the problem here, the problem is soul being fully stripped from King Emerics body...as in he died, and then you basically resurrecting him but placing his soul back in his body.

When the link is severed it's over, you need some yet unheard of Necromancy to bind the soul back in.
What ESO mentioned sometimes but forgets when it's convinient is that souls in TES are not just one thing, they are a trifold complex entity that consists of Anuic Remnant, Memory and Magicka storing body and they are tied to mortal body which in turn is essentially a stabilized Ada. The way he says
>should I just try to go back into my body
when you finish the quest is almost mocking.

I know that my levels of autism are probably annoying as fuck but believe me when I say this, a lot of lorefags are having trouble with ESO despite it being a nice game because of shit like this and ultimately I do believe that this might be bad for future TES games if some of that lore an tonality/atmosphere transfers to mainline TES games.
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>>147258507
>they are a trifold complex entity that consists of Anuic Remnant, Memory and Magicka storing body and they are tied to mortal body which in turn is essentially a stabilized Ada
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>>147258753
Okay imagine that soul is made up of three parts
One is the spark of Anu...though this is arguable, what matters is that one part is a very important chunk of original creatia that all beings have
One is your Magicka storing body, the part of your soul where you absorb magicka into and where you cast spells from. When you soul trap a soul you use up it's Magicka storing body in the process, while rest of the soul goes to Soul Cairn or whatever plane the soulgem is connected to.
And Memory...which is well Memory. It's one of the most important things in the universe and it's what most likely gets sent to an afterlie while Anuic remnant gets recycled in the Dreamsleeve.
Ada means spirit, Et'Ada means original spirits, like Aedra and Daedra. All beings used to be Ada before shit got stabilized.

When soul divides from the body Anuic remnant gets sent to Dreamsleeve unless you worshiped a Daedra or got soultrapped which makes reviving a person really hard, a process that has never been shown to succeed.
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Should I go vampire on my altmer magblade?

I'd rather not, but if it's greatly beneficial I'd consider it
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>>147241949
Jack Kirby/10
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>>147259270
Where was the part about souls being divided into Anuic remnant, memory and magick mentioned?
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are the servers down or something?

I finally get this stupid game downloaded and I get error 200 constantly and can't log in. I see there's no clear cut solution for it too.
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>>147259713
Anuic remnant is a term invented for what was previously called AE and that is lore introduced in ESO actually, Anuic spark was what got removed from you and why both Creatia and Azure Plasm managed to fill the void in your soul essentially making you something like a weird makeshift semi-Daedra that can just die and revive like any other Daedric being or free Ada.
Magicka storing body is also mentioned in ESO couple of times but a lot of lore related to it comes from Battlespire and Dawnguard DLC, once Soul Cairn got explained properly that bit got added to the lore and generally mechanics of soul gems.
Third part of the soul is unknown but people speculate it to be Memory, especially after c0da.
Soul being a trifold is mentioned in books but I am too lazy to find a source, so go turn on Skyrim and talk to Neloth, in one of his dialogues he talks about soul being made of three parts.
People being stabilized spirits bound to mortal plane is common lore.
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>>147260801
>The connecting soul thread is knotted three times, once for the heart, once for the spirit, and once for the body. The knot gives the connection a strength that may be the key that I've been looking for.
Correction, people interpret this statement of Neloth tied to briar hearts as confirmation for the fact that it is a threefold, because Briarheart has to be tied to the soul with "three knots" to get fully bound.

We don't actually know how many parts the soul is made out of, we do know that it's not just one single piece though and magical animus seems to be at least one confirmed part of it.

That being said I've heard people mention soul trifold many times on bethesda lore forums and /r/teslore before Skyrim so there is probably some obscure lore tied to it, the same way Battlespire mentioned Dreamsleeve internet or Shadowkey has Obscure probability manipulating Shadow magic.
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>>147260801
>>147261429

Ok, because my knowledge is shoddy at best and there's a lot I've forgotten from the games. The reason I asked was because in ESO it's argued that memory in one way or another is stored in water as seen here; http://imgur.com/gallery/2mzDJ

Said Daedra may be bullshitting but there's a few things to consider. Herma Mora being connected with the Oceans and having a shrine looking like a crab-ish creature is probably the strongest connection.

Another one is that it plays well into the Hist residing/being trees literary soaking up thousands of litre of memories each day and why there's an Argonian in Daggerfall that claims to remember a past life as a crocodile
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QUICK
What's your favourite class and why
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>>147264375

Nightblade because I'm a meme stealth archer
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>>147262557
Yeah, that is a popular theory right now in lore community.
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>>147264375

Mag Templar because I'm a shitter.
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>>147264375
Templar, because I am a healer
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>>147264375
fuck, I can't choose!

Dragon Knight I guess since I began playing this after Skyrim and it was nice to ACTUALLY FEEL DRAGONY instead of "screaming viking man"
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So...i played until level 17 and im not really sure if i should go on.

The animations are 5min-in-unity tier and it generally feels a bit dirty to play it, dunno why.

Is the "WvW" thingy fun? I love it in GW2 but i basically haven't heard a single good thing about ESO, to be completely honest.
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>>147264375

Sorcerer. I guess I just like how the thunder spells EXPLODE and crystal fragments really SLAM into things. There's more impact and weight to Sorc spells than there is any melee weapon.
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>>147267727
May as well quit now because if you feel "dirty" playing it you won't enjoy the rest of the game.
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>>147267727
>I love it in GW2

it's basically like GW2 except not shit
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>>147268217

Lag is annoying sometimes though. Other than that yeah it's basically a none shit version of GW2 RvR.
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>>147264375
Bosmer stamblade, because I'm tall in real life, and wanted to play something short.
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>>147268217
>>147268279
Really? What makes it different? Or, what makes it actually "not-shit"?

Also how does the PvE endgame work like? I heard there is a certain kind of points or some shit where you need hundreds from to be able to even withstand anyone in PvP
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ah well the general speaks for itself
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>>147269537
?
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I love this game, but I am a complete TES fag since the very first game.
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is being a Vampire worth it?
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>>147268386
It's been a while since I played GW2 so I don't know what, if anything, has changed, but ESO is essentially a polished version of GW2's WvW. Sieges matter, as does siege equipment, engagements are more dynamic, resource system is better implemented. The map itself absolutely dwarfs that of GW2's borderlands, meaning the fights are more spread out and if you lose a position, it can be a while before you take it back. It also means that smaller fights are hard to find although I often go with my friend out of the main group to clean up stragglers left after broken sieges, which almost always ends in great fun

And then there's the IC gank game. City capture mode will be implemented in the next update.

There's probably a lot that I missed, but you just need to try it out for yourself.
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>>147270243
>Is being a molag bal's pale bitch worth it?
Only if you want to be his pale bitch
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>>147268386
>I heard there is a certain kind of points or some shit where you need hundreds from to be able to even withstand anyone in PvP
Those are called champion points (CP).
There are different PvP campaigns to choose from, and there are non-CP campaigns. You should play non-CP campaigns even if you have max CP.
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>>147270481
it makes no sense for you to
>be a vampire when it's tied to soul corruption
>fight Molag Bal as a vampire when you are literally his bitch
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Ayyy I got tonight off. Time to play all day/night. Geo/obe you free today?
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>>147270481
>>147270740

so how is it explained in the game?

it's not, isn't it?
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>>147270930
You become a vampire under Lamae Beolfag and she bloody hates Molag Bal.
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>>147271235
so I'm her bitch?
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>>147270930
Molag Bal created original vampire(Lamae) by raping the her. All pure blooted vampies have been created also by getting raped by Molag Bal. And of course vampire souls go to Coldharbour. Vampirism has also those little nasty side effects.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Vampire
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Lamae_Beolfag
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>>147271921

>http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Lamae_Beolfag

>She eviscerated the women and children, and raped the men as savagely as Molag Bal had raped her.

>raped the men
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>>147271774
Yea but she has a pretty hands-off approach.
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>>147272259
You know the Volkihair clan from Skyrim?
Harkon, Valerica and Serana were also raped by Molag Bal.
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>>147273225
>Harkon

holy shit I don't know how I missed that, but it certainly is amazing that a badass vampire like Harkon got his powers by being anally assaulted by a daedric prince

TES lore is amazing
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>>147273225
ok, but a woman raping men has some interesting implications

futa canon confirmed?
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>>147274376
To be fair, I thought both Molag Bal and Harkon were both big enough assholes that Harkon didn't NEED to be raped and wasn't. He just sat off to the side drinking tea while Molag Bal fucked his wife and daughter who would both see none of this was necessary and Harkon was perfectly okay sacrificing them for his own gains.

>>147270243
Werewolf is a bit more fun, you might think it's just some weak form thing like in GW2... Totally far from it.

Only problem is Werewolf transformation is WAAAAAY shorter in this game even if you're devouring every corpse like a bosmer during a wilde hunt. Also, unlike vampirism, it does NOT synergize with any of your skills outside of being transformed.

Oh, and it takes an ultimate slot.

It's still fun if you ask me.
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>people asking for 300+CP for random normal
LUL
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>>147275390
>People asking for CP players for any normal dungeon.
>People asking for 161-501CP for any veteran dungeon.
I only understand this 400+CP thing in veteran trials.
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>>147275390
> Not only allowing people who have played since the beta into your group
If they can't show me their Imgakin pet they're not allowed in
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> Argonians use mud and reed to build their homes because instead of stones because the Hist tells them to
Guess why
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Summoner sorc with destruction staff feels clunky as fuck.
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>>147275390
>>147275960
that's how you find the shit and inexperienced players.
they mask it by surrounding themselves with better and experienced/ high cp players.
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>>147280423
I've never thought of it that way but it makes an awful lot of sense.
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>>147280598
It really does. I recall back when I played WoW, about 5/10 times someone who asked for an achievment in lfg didn't have it himself.
Same in SWTOR.
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Does anyone play on Xbox one? If so, do you have a trading or raiding guild that you would like to invite me to? If not, how are you supposed to find guilds?
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>>147283676
>2016
>Cant use teh inturwubs
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>trying to find a group for Spindleclutch as a dps

kill me
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>>147281592
Well luckily you link your own achievement when you link to chat. So if you don't have it, said achievement will be greyed out. Now when I think about it I have stumbled upon a few people who asked for people with stuff like City of Ash Assassin and had a greyed out achievement when they linked it.
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>>147264375
Sorcerer because its the best class for both being a group and solo variable. It's a jack of all trades.
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>>147284991
>It's a jack of all trades

I think you meant magblade
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>>147284339
He owns a console, after all, a certain level of retardation is assumed.
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dude. Are DLC/hats for all characters on your account or nah?
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how come Covenant are such fucking ass holes?
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>>147286695
yea.

>>147286821
Because AD have no balls and DC have made them their bitch to the degree where AD will go and fetch scrolls from EP that they then give to DC.
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>>147286947
smdh EP4lyfe.
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>>147286695
crown store stuff is server-bound

if you bought something on NA, you will have that for all your characters, but if you switch to EU you won't have shit
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>>147286821
>>147286947

I love the fact how when you play DC you don't hear much about other factions invading although I only got as far as alik'r desert, but when you play on AD or EP, you have DC fucking their shit up right from the start.
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Where do I find a good and reliable guide to a healer character? What is the best ESO site or community to study the game while I'm at work?
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>>147287082
lame, wish it was account regardless of server. Especially since I heard there's good RP on Euro server.

>>147287286
>only side with a black race is raping and pillaging.
WOWWWWWWWW
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>>147287606
http://tamrielfoundry.com/forum/classes/
Look at builds that interest you, look at what they do and then try to understand why they do it.
Use something like this but with Kagrenacs-armor because you probably don't get Spell Power Cure that early: http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/the-provider-primary-healer-for-end-game-pve-4-man-content/
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>>147287286
There were Dunmer slavers Koelgin village (Storm Haven.) And some Pact soldiers in a delve (AD)
>AD or EP, you have DC fucking their shit up right from the start
I agree
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can you respec? I plan on blindly fucking up my character builds.
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>>147289226
ye
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>>147289226
you can reset skills/attributes/morphs at your capital city
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>>147287606
http://tamrielfoundry.com is probably the best site for theorycrafting.

http://esoacademy.com is decent but a lot of the stuff is outdated. An example is that their article about buffs and debuffs are from when they were introduced and as such the assigned skills aren't correct.
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Seems like for the crown shop the best thing is to just get ESO+ and let your crowns pile up. Seems like there's no reason to buy just crowns.
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Don't dieven guys
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>>147293016
?
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>>147292151
Yeah that's what I do, and then if I decide to unsub for any reason I just buy a dlc that I want to play. And if you buy the 60 days off of g2a you pay $18 for 2 months when that usually is worth a month on the ESO site.
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I already own ESO but didn't initially get to into it because all my friends who bought it with me quit like 30 minutes in. I have a few questions about it to see if I should try playing it solo or not.

Are there good, well thought out dungeons and raids in the game?

I have heard good things about the PvP in game, is there any specific battle grounds or is it just the one big open world pvp zone?

Is class building cookie cutter or can I really experiment with my character and make weird and still viable classes, like, could I make a Paladin character based on light armor and very high melee DPS, or could I make a rogue that uses open combat with daggers instead of sneaking around a lot.

and my last question is how hard is it to get from starting level to max level? If I have to play alone, I would prefer to not have to sink 2 weeks of in game time to get to max.
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>>147294696
>yes
>one big zone
>no cookie cutter
>max rank takes months
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>>147294696
>dungeons are great
>pvp is one big zone, but i've heard of talk about battlegrounds being added.
>if you are trying to do a "cookie cutter" build you are playing wrong
>max level takes lots of time but its nothing to be worried about
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>>147294696
If you want to reach max level it will take a while. I've played 900 hours in total, and I've yet to reach max level.
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>>147295052
You can get max rank in like 4 days if you do nothing but quests and dailys.
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>>147295052
Thanks for the info, can I be competitive in PvP if I am not max rank?
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>>147296731
yes
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>>147294696
I could probably max out a character 50 hours grinding mobs efficiently and I'm not even that good. A level in 1/2 hour is not difficult. It's a lot easier if you grind with one other person in a group.
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reported someone for having an inappropriate name. JEWmongus aka klitsmash I hope you are happy. :^)
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>>147297096
A level per half hour would mean that assuming you're level 50, you'll be at max CP after 250 hours of grinding.
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>>147297096
at cp498 it's 444k xp to the next rank
with all buffs to xp you can grind out 850k/hr in old orsinium
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>>147298428
I didn't realize that champion points accrue more slowly the more you have. My cp35 earns one every few days just doing nothing but crafting writs.
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>>147270849
I just woke up, fml

I'll hop on soon

-G
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>>147275390
Just wondering what kind of equipment you get from the random dungeons? Anything worthwhile?
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I keep hearing stamblades are really strong in PvP, but if the PvP is more large scale do they ever get to shine? I feel like playing an artillery sorcerer is always fun in these types of PvP modes.
I have a lvl 18 Nightblade, right now trying a stam build but lvled with mag for the most part. But I find that the magblade has pretty boring ranged nukes even with a Destruction Staff when compared to Sorcerer.
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I'm leveling up stamina based skills and it's so fucking hard. My stamina runs out in like 10 seconds
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>>147302479
>Picking pockets to get Thieves Guild and Legerdemain up
>Caught picking
>Guard comes to get you
>They root you and sap all your stamina
>Can't roll out of it because no stamina
Fuck this.
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>>147302782
Guard pathing is really fucky, you can escape them by jumping in water or climbing over walls.
Also a good idea to carry some edicts around with you.
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How much are race change tokens going to be
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What's a good stamina nightblade bow build
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>>147311053
This uses a bow as a secondary weapon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT_I6aiH4E8
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This game is literally just a grind, how dull
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>>147315363
All MMOs boil down to grinding. At least this one has some fairly entertaining quests.
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>>147226167
>>147315363
aren't you done yet?
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Do you guys play with a gamepad? Been wanting to test out how the game is with a PS3 or PS4 controller. Its easier on the fingers and something im used to.

If you have, are there any issues you have encountered?
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>>147316709
I haven't tried it out, but the PC version has a gamepad option and considering the game is available on consoles I'm sure the game is very playable with a gamepad.
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>>147316709
>Do you guys play with a gamepad?
Well, I play on PS4 so, yes

Seems fine compared to any other game on gamepad
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F
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I literally cannot roll. Using a ps3 controller. How do you roll on consoles?
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>>147321268
Block and jump to the side.
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>>147264375
DK, I always liked being the big fat tank but deal damage at the same time. I have two capped DKs for that reason.
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>>147315363
If you're the one who complained about grind in previous threads, "grinding" is a staple of the Elder Scrolls series.
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>>147321268
>>147322082
Or rather, hold block, move to the side, and then press the jump button.
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>>147264375
Stamplar because I hate myself.
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>>147267727
>generally feels a bit dirty to play it, dunno why
I know exactly what you're trying to say, I got the exact same feeling from Wildstar. Couldn't put my finger on what it was but something just felt really janky and I dropped it.
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>mfw I win a meme beam duel
>mfw sniping shitblades with SPEARS
>mfw casting Eclipse on bowshitters
>mfw keeping people alive with just one ability
>mfw watching my team capture a keep outnumbered because of my big buffs
>mfw escorting the scroll back only to watch my nigga get Emperor
magplars ww@
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>>147324140
Getting murdered as a level 24.

Oh well at least I got Warhorn.

One day I will learn the ways of magtankplar
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>>147325102
Just find a zerg and spam breath of life.
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>>147325173
Yeah I have had great success spamming Mutagen + Breath of Life into a Warhorn. It's still lots of fun but I dont want to get too into it until I hit 50.
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Is there any point at all to low level soul gems?

I have a ton of grand soul gems from random dungeons and even after using them for resurrecting and charging shit, I always seem to end up with a net gain at the end of the day.
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>>147325274
They're there for cheaper alternatives when you start out.
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>>147092873
>Is there any point at all to low level soul gems?
Yes. Gold.
>I have a ton of grand soul gems from random dungeons and even after using them for resurrecting and charging shit, I always seem to end up with a net gain at the end of the day.
Turn them into gold.
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Which star sign for a DK stam tank?
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>>147295052
>max rank takes months
I can get 50lvl in a day and 160CP in the next day.
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so what are your thoughts on housing? how will it work? what can you do with them?
I hope you can buy like a house in the 2 main cities of the zones and another at a more remote location (caves, islands, mountain tops etc) it would be cool if you can make the furniture yourself in your own race style.
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>>147325850
Do tell.
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>>147325706
shit. no clue, i was about to say thief then i remembered there's more to eso than dps. the lord stone?

>>147325850
but not 501cp the next month
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>>147325850
bullshit
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>>147325850
>I can get 50lvl in a day and 160CP in the next day.
Todd, is that you?
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> Defeat the Lord Warden
> Makes a shield out of him
> He talks to you when you use it
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>>147325997
>>147327814
>>147328246
>Craft/buy full set of gear with training trait. Seven armor+ 1 or 2 weapons. (xp from kills 8-10%each piece)
>Equip those items
>Join to a group with one friend/guy (10% xp boost or some shit)
>Craft/buy Drink Psijic Ambrosias
>Drink Psijic Ambrosias (50% experience boost for 30 minutes)
>Do dailies, random dungeon, and grind those good grinding spots.
(And if you subscribe you get 10% xp bonus.)
(My grind spots are secret)
(This game isn't meant to be grinded)
(This game isn't a "grind fest")
>>147326002
Where is 501CP required?
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>>147328956
>This game isn't a "grind fest"
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>>147329756
is it?
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>>147328956
Yea I'm going to need some proper calculation from you because even if you used all that it's still bullshit.
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>>147329803
Name an MMO that isn't a grindfest.
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>>147329803
Yes, but all games are grindfests with the definitions of grind being tossed around here.
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>>147329838
>>147329886

sure, but when the term "grind fest" is used, I don't think of ESO, but of something like Warframe.

There is grind here, but it's barely anything
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>>147329814
There are 24 hours in a day.
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>>147328956

does crown xp scroll stack with psijic ambrosia?
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>>147330124
This game has no substance outside of the grind, the fuck are you talking about?
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>>147330279
No.
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>>147330281
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>>147330281
Why are you even here? You clearly don't RP, like from TES, know how to have fun, PvP, etc.
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>>147330124
People bitching about "grind" have complained about feeling a need to go trough the quests with multiple characters if he creates them on the same factions.

I don't know what this nigger >>147330281 count as grind but I'm sure it's equally retarded.
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If I i choose melee attack, I put my healer in danger getting to close the enemy, if I choose magic attack, I waste my magicka, right? What's is the best attack for a cuckold healer?
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>>147332078
You use magicka fast in TESO.
You also get it back quick too.
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>>147332078
You get back magicka by heavy attacking with your restoration staff. If you're not constantly doing something you're playing the game horribly wrong.
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>>147332215
> 3 seppeate bars to show how much health a monster have
wew lad
But I ain't bitching I also have 3 bars for it
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>>147332215
>>147332368
Thanks! I'll make an Altmer healer so.
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>>147332549
Must be a side effect of having the Oblivion UI/Compass or something. The compass healthbar is there before you encounter the boss. The one below it is there when you encounter the boss. I just also have the "Enemy Healthbars" on in the UI settings that's the only one that's always there (when looking at enemies).
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>>147113360
gw2 has fake healers
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>>147297153
>JEWmongus

anon you little shit that's a great name
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Can you do a random normal and random vet, and get the reward from both?
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>engine guardian
>be 280 tank
>3 501+, hell one is 700+
>when ever adds spawn they all stop attacking the boss and focus the adds
>their dps is somehow so shit it takes several mins for them to kill the adds each time
Jesus fucking Christ
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>>147334068
Please explain what a fake healer do because it just seems like nonsense to me.

>>147334828
You haven't seen shit until you've encountered a damagedealer who won't do anything but spam necrotic orb on the engine guardian.
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>>147335289
First time I've had a shit group, I've always felt like I'm the one struggling and being carried but that was just sad, like they all have over 20k health, which should of been a red flag.
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So I did the thieve's guild dlc and just started the dark brotherhood one. Should I be opening these or hang on to them until I am higher level?
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>>147336472
If you think you might use them, the hang on but honestly you'll probably never sell them to a player and even if you do it'll be for like under 100g.
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>>147336472
If I'm not mistaken, the level of those containers is set as soon as you pick them up, so no point in waiting.
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>>147336472
I'm level 28, did the DB and TG intro quests and opened what they gave me. I've poked around guild traders and noticed that epic max level gear is extremely cheap, even by my current standards, so feels silly to hang on to them.
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>>147336472
just open them now, it doesn't matter. You will still be able to get these very same containers by doing dailies
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>>147336840
>>147336987
>>147337317
thanks guys
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>>147337572
ty too
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what's some "must know" info if I'm just picking up this game this week?
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>>147330428
I love RP sempai. RP with me prs.
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>>147339674
it is NOT Skyrim online, don't expect it to be
it IS an MMORPG, and everything that comes with it

DLCs are not mandatory to finish the story and max your character, but they do have some nice perks.

ESO+ is worth it, if you don't mind subscribing.
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>>147340520
cheers anon
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>>147339674
Stay the fuck away from the crownstore and subscriptions until you know you can and want to dump hundreds of dollars on this game.

Don't buy or repair gear whioe leveling up, you'll find better gear while you quest.

Save 10k to buy a horse and start taking riding lessons in the stables.

Deconstruct and research everything you don't need.
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>>147339674
Get the 10k mount and feed it apples as soon as you can. Rearch all the time.
> But I don't want to be a crafter
Yea well one day you might and then you're gonna pissed you have to wait literal months before you can craft the best gear. I don't think you can research all traits in less than 6 months.
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>>147343968
all traits for clothier and blacksmithing take like just about year and woodworking about half a year.
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>>147343968
>I don't think you can research all traits in less than 6 months.

I've been playing for over a year and I still have shit to research because I didn't bother with it at the beginning
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>>147339674
See these people >>147344247 >>147344298 >>147343968
Start researching shit and keep it up
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I'm afraid to even play this game since it crashes randomly and sometimes even makes my computer crash as well.
>>
Checking integrity of files on Steam redownloads the fucking game all over again, holy shit can I just download the launcher alone without the need for steam?
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>>147347365

Yes, that is what you are supposed to do you dip
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>>147347365
precisely the reason why almost no one plays it through Steam
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>>147347365
stupid cunt
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How do I get gold fast?
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>>147348893
thieving is very profitable
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>>147348893
W W W (dot) G 0 L D 4 F a 9 9 o t S. rU
Steal stuff and fence it, look for silver lockboxes.
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is it worth sticking with this game?
I jsut got this today and am lv6 atm jsut got through the tutorial island.

My thoughts so far: Combat is OK, nothing special. Gameplay and the handling of your character feels clunky as fuck.
I enjoyed some of the sidequests, this fact that if someone else gets to the ore/wood/cloth node first it disappears is a bit fucked but at least if you are lucky u can stack up on that shit fairly fast.

The engine seems like a bugfest I'm not sure how it can handle big worldbosses or if there are more than 10 players on screen at once.

I enjoyed exploring the world though and the fact that you can use all weapons and armors as any class. Character creation was excellent.

All in all: early gameplay is piss poor and feels like I'm playing and old korean MMO but without the tab targeting

Is it worth sticking with this game?
Also I enjoy huge battles like World vs World in GW2. Anything similar here?
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>>147350373
>Is it worth sticking with this game?

If you'd take a bite from a ham sandwich and found out that instead of ham there's a literal piece of turd, would you ask yourself "should I keep going?"

you obviously don't like the game, so the answer should be obvious
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>>147348893
Steal stuff and sell to fencers
Farm crafting materials
Buy cheap and sell high
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>>147350373
> Is it worth sticking with this game?
No, despite having Alliance vs Alliance vs Alliance battles in Cyrodiil, you won't enjoy it if you find the gameplay lacking.
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>>147350373
>this fact that if someone else gets to the ore/wood/cloth node first it disappears is a bit fucked

>babbys first mmo
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>>147350373
>this fact that if someone else gets to the ore/wood/cloth node first it disappears is a bit fucked
I think that's great, adds more immersion.
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>>147350373
You get mats by stealing, laundering and deconstructing, not by mining or gathering
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I'll see what's new on TOR while ESO downloads again
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>>147355226
>TOR
How many extra hotbars did you buy, anon?
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>>147355226
SWTOR had so much potential. If only it wasn't turned in to a cash cow by EA.

how long it's been since the last new operation? a year?
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Housing when?
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>>147357730
Q1 next year
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How long until they fix the groupfinder?
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>>147360989
When they allow specific dungeon queues to get matched with random dungeon queurs
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GEE DAGGERFALL, how come your abusive addict ridden mother lets you have THREE glenumbras?
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>>147361802
>specific dungeon queues can't get matched with random dungeon queues

are you fucking kidding me?
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Do people like, expect you to run dps meters and animation cancel in random queues? That shit has turned me off of running dungeons. I just want to dungeon crawl and have fun not MLG it.
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>>147363817
DPS meters are only for your own curiosity, to show you if you're doing good or not, or if a build you're currently running is performing better or worse than the previous.

Doing animation cancelling can boost your dps significantly, and make harder content that much easier, but nobody is expecting that in random queues.

but seriously though, animation cancelling isn't that hard, especially if you run a magicka build. you won't regret bothering to learn it
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>>147361802
You can't be serious. This can't be a thing.
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>>147364465

I don't care about the efficiency, I care about carpal tunnel. Spammy shit hurts after awhile.

and when I used to do veteran dungeon pledges on my tank, I got chewed out for not parsing x dps .... I was the tank. My bar was full of armor, shields, taunts, and like, 2 skills that did a little bit of damage and provided a self heal, most of my points were in health. I was wearing footman and hist-bark.. I'm not going to parse high dps.
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>>147364915
> And when I used to do veteran dungeon pledges on my tank, I got chewed out for not parsing x dps
That fucking sucks. I've never came across anyone bitching about it nor bitched about the tank not having a high dps.
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>tfw you get to 35 on one character only to start new on an alt because you'd rather DPS dungeons your first way through than tank
This autism needs to stop
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>>147365198

this is why I'd like it if DPS meters couldn't parse other people's damage unless they also have the addon installed.

>>147365353

It is rough. when I initially started it was me and 3 friends so we did all the dungeons together, and that was fun, we took longer and weren't efficient and we watched the story and all that, but it was fun. But they all quit because of VR's. So I was alone and had to pledge as a tank on my own, I'd never done the veteran dungeons before and I felt a lot of pressure to already know them and know the pulls and all that. it's awful.
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so wait.. CAN people parse your dps if you don't have a meter installed? Maybe they were chewing me out because they thought everyone has a meter installed but mine was showing up blank.
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So I really do enjoy this games skill progression and stuff but goddamn magicka det is gonna take me fucking weeks at this rate.
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>>147365578
So why aren't you on in the /tesog/ guild? Shit like this have never happen when I've done dungeons with people from /tesog/
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>>147366850
not anymore, addons just parse total group dps, and people make assumptions based on that.

personally i would never complain about literally anything in a pug, because i don't expect experience. if i'm pulling 30k+ dps, then i'm worth three inexperienced dps, and i'll get them through the content.
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>>147367001

eh, I just haven't felt like it, I parked my tank, I didn't even upgrade his gear to VR16, been playing my sorc through the silver/gold areas and also leveling up a nightblade on the side. There's so much solo questing to do and I'm nowhere near the CP cap so I haven't bothered with PVP or finding dungeon groups because of that. I'm at CP 292 I think. I pretty much play my sorc for a few quests to consume enlightenment and then switch to nightblade for awhile.
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>>147365353
nigga, I've been playing a month and highest I got was lvl 34

I'm like on my 11th character, because I can't fucking decide what I want to play

and I don't just keep my old characters, I delete them
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Quick question, is it possible to run a Melee sorceror/battlemage style? I remember having fun with the idea in the beta, but I didn't buy the game until now.
I don't expect it to be top-of-the-line, as long as it's not completely useless.
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>>147370094
>spoiler
All of my why. You don't even keep ones you might wanna play later?
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>>147370229
I make a character that I want to be my main. I pick a class that I think I'll like, I pick a race, I pick a gender depending on race and class. no gayboy elves for me, thank you and I play until I realise there's something about the character I don't like. Either I picked the wrong race, because I wanted a stamina build, but then try out magicka and turns out I enjoy that much more, or I'm simply not feeling the class. And then I delete the character, because I want the same name, and start over.

Maximum autism.

I'm pretty sure I got it nailed with what I'm playing as now. We'll see in about 20 levels.
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>>147370185
There's a class called sorcerer and you can equip melee weapons on him so yea.

Sorcerers class abilities are focused on disabling other mages, making deals with the powers of oblivion on the fly and make thunder your bitch. As a stamina-focused sorcerer, you'll become the fastest thing on the battlefield while you fuel your sword with lighting to enhance it's power. On top of that you'll be able to go full-on Sheev and use Force Lighting to disintegrate people.

But this work for pretty much all other classes. A magicka-based Dragonknight will use a staff but pull enemies towards him and use close-combat fire magic. And a templars have a whole skilline dedicated to wield a holy spear.
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>>147372736

why are stam sorcs considered so fast?
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>>147373508
Stamina-based sorcs are the only class that have easy and cheap access to the buffs major and minor expedition. On top of that, sorcs have access to streak/ball lighting, allowing you to flash around on the battlefield as you please.
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2 Questions

Is there any way to level really fast and do i absolutely have to quest

And

Are there any support/healer builds/classes in the game?
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>>147374627
yes to both
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>>147374690
cmon guys put a bit of quality onto the general...whats the fastest way to level? and what are the support/healer classes?
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>>147374046
How do the levels work, what's the max level and how many stat/skill points will I be working with?
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>>147374885
Any class can do support/healing, but if you want a dedicated support/heal, go with Templar.
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>>147374885
>>147328956
For leveling
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nice rollback bro

PC EU about 10 minutes
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someone explain why the TES games cant into graphics and animations
TESO is just another example of that, it looks like fucking metin 2 with a few modern graphic options and has basically the same animation quality

what the fuck
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>>147374885
> And what are the support/healer classes?
There are non. Templars have an easier time healing but all classes can be played as healers.

>>147375029
Easiest time to reach max level would be to have a friend in cyrodiil kill a lot high-level mobs in caves and such. Max level is 50, afterwards you're rewarded with champion points instead. Think of them as mini-levels where each champion points give you 0.3% extra magic damage and stuff like that. A champion point is one million experience point, that's as much as you had to get between 1 and 50.

There's currently 501 champion points that you can use (you can gain more but they're useless since you can't allocate said champion points into extra damage and such).

Reaching 501 will take a long fucking time so don't even consider grinding up to that level or you're gonna end up mad.
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>>147375518
So 49 regular level ups that give basic stat points, right? And skill points are gained how?
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>>147375451
Fucking elves I swear.
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>>147375803
3 Skyshards give you one skillpoint. Same with main-story quests. Think the guild quests also give skillpoints. You also get it from completing multi-player dungeons. Also from PvP.

I mean you get it from a shitton of stuff. There's more than 300 in the game. The only thing that don't give you skillpoints is plain old grinding (outside from the 64 you get while levelling 1-50).

Wouldn't be surprised if you got skillpoints from fishing.
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>>147376113
Thanks. Is there a guideline for how to place your stat points, Minimum health placement and dump the rest in Stam or Magic?
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>>147375803
>>147376113
Also yes, the 49 levels give you an overall boost to your statistics, and you're given Attribution points as you level up that you can place in health, stamina or magicka.
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So I went tank because I assumed I'd get easy groups and short queues, but that doesn't seem to be the case. Dungeon finder doesn't even work and when I ask for a group in /zone chat I never get any replies. Hell I even asked someone what they needed today and it was healer and DPS.

Does this change later on (I'm level 30 atm) or should I just go stam DPS since the transition is easy enough.
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>>147377007
Once you reach 40 you'll be able to do pledges. These are daily missions from the undaunted. That will make you more attractive.
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>>147374046

Minor from hurricane and major from rapid maneuver?
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>>147377007
A lot of people tend to run low level dungeon shit without tanks at all, so it could be that. But they are still very much needed in higher level tier
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>>147377548
Minor from Hurricane and Major from rolling with a bow equipped thanks to the bow's Hasty retreat passive. If you really want to be sanic you do it on an orc, that have a racial passive making them faster.
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>>147378496

dodge rolling every 5 seconds is less stam than using rapid manuever every 20s?
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>>147379314
dodge roll doesn't take up a skill slot
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>>147379314
Rapid manoeuvre is expensive and the Major expedition buff ends the moment you're in combat. So casting it in combat is just a huge waste of stamina.
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The sweetroll killer quest was really good.
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>>147383859
They've gotten a lot of praise on the forum for it. It was fan-service, great design and a hint about the future all in one.
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>>147383859

where's this quest? Is it DB?
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>>147384670
Yea. You have to do the DB mainstory and all sidequests for it to open up. It starts with a note at the stable in Kvatch.
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>>147383859
it was literally just memes with some more grinding on the side

Is that all it takes to please this game's fanbase? lol
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>>147385164
> Grinding
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VMA ON STAM CLASS IS HARD
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>>147386127
I've heard it's a breeze with stam sorcs, even easier than with mag sorcs.
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>>147386326
with experience, stamina becomes easier. more dps, more burst and a greater burst heal. mag sorc is still the best option for someone's first time in vma, however
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>>147385164
It's designed so your choices lead to vastly different dialogue and npc reactions, and it hints at future possible events. I played through it a couple of times by abandoning quest.
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>>147386818
You don't really believe that, do you?
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>>147387995

I mean clearly the outcome of the quest is always the same but within the context of the quest there's a lot of choice
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>>147386326

what's a good mag sorc VMA build, can it be done without Molag Kena?
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>>147387995
It's true though. At the end of the quest one of the npcs can be hopping mad or somewhat satisfied even if you make the same final decision depending on what you did earlier.
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>>147391941
No idea, I'm shit at vMA even with a mag sorc. I use engine guardian. I bitched earlier at >>147125231 and stopped playing for some time. I actually just gave it another go and beat the fucking boss on the first try.

With Engine guardian set it's ez mode so far as long as you have proper addons like FTC so you actual can see how strong your shield is holy fuck the native one in ESO is horrible.
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>that quest in the EP zone where the nord guy loses his axe and trousers

My fucking sides

For an MMO the quests in this game are pretty good desu
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>>147393198
>>147393625

Have a look here
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/233356/joys-updated-guide-to-beating-maelstrom-arena-now-with-videos
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how many hours does it take to grind from lv1 to 501CP.
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>>147393746

despite how good joy's guide to vma is for absolute beginners, i wouldn't recommend it. it teaches you to rely on bad habits- shield stacking, using gapclosers, using sigils. if you learn it the hard way you can clear it far faster.

t. 525k score nb

>>147391941
honestly just have enough magicka to cast hardened ward, and trust it to absorb damage while you dps things down. the faster things die in vma, the less damage you take.
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Should you be at max cp to try vma?
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>>147395143
or what's the minimum amount I should start trying it?
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eso newfag here

what is the differences between lv50, 160cp and 510cp?
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Just bought one month of ESO and I don't intend to renew

Give me a list of things to do in this time
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How are DPS queue's? Thinking I might change my Templar from heals to 2h dps.
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>>147395271
i completed it at 260ish cp. started at 200cp.
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>>147395494
> Orsinium
> Thieves Guild
> Dark Brotherhood
> Remaining time in Imperial City
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>>147393746

Hmm, looks like I'm going to have to grind out some different morphs. like, I took empowered ward because I don't like recasting every 6 seconds but apparently has to be hardened, and I used force pulse rather than crushing shock, and I never leveled up annulment.
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>>147397081
don't use crushing shock as a sorc. in round 7 if you interrupt the boss he enrages. it's only useful in round 9's final boss, circumvented by walking up and interrupting. you've got no other spammable, don't gimp your damage and an entire round.
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>>147397081
you don't need annulment either if you have ward
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>>147397674

well the guide said to use crushing and harness magicka
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>>147400267
>the guide
is wrong. crushing shock will literally kill you in round 7 final boss, and mildly convenience you in round 9 final boss. harness is still worse than ward, and ward is more than enough to mitigate anything. on my magblade i don't even have a ward/dedicated heal.
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Does anyone tank/heal in NA PC guild?
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>>147403941
I'd be in the NA PC guild to heal, if @clv responded.
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>>147404136
SRY IM @ LUNCH
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>>147404727
I asked a few day ago, didn't think too much about it, figured you were busy.
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I've got an understanding of how Stamina builds with weapons for various classes play like but I have not tried magicka at all. Can someone give me the gist of how the various classes play as magicka builds? What is the difference between a Magicka Sorc, DK, NB etc?
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Hey everyone. I started this game a few days ago and I have decided to get into crafting for my character. I'm a level 14 sorcerer and up until this point I have been mixing and matching armor with both heavy and light.

I know I want one crafting discipline to be woodworking for my staves, but now I have to choose between heavy and light. Which is better for a sorcerer in the long run? Do I get a decent dps increase if I go light? Will I still be survivable enough on my own in light armor? I was also considering getting into enchanting, but I was told I should hold off on doing enchanting until I'm higher level. Any advice?
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>>147408960
First off, you can have all the crafting, you don't have to choose, only prioritise. For sorc you'll want light armor, if you're running a magicka build I assume you are for magicka regen. Check the passives for armor types in your skill window and it'll be clear to you what each armor type is meant for.

>I was told I should hold off on doing enchanting until I'm higher level

No, that's silly advice. Level everything as soon as you can level it.
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>>147408960
>I was also considering getting into enchanting, but I was told I should hold off on doing enchanting until I'm higher level.
Someone wants you to suffer
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>>147408402

magicka builds use more class skills usually, a lot of them have a restoration staff as their back bar for the utility it provides with healing ward, and sometimes rapid regen (or mutagen)

If a destruction staff is used they'll usually use force pulse, and elemental blockade, elemental ring used to be common too but I don't see it much anymore.

Some people don't use one of the staves and instead have a dual wield setup (higher spell damage), They don't use any dual wield passives or skills, just holding the weapons with a bar full of class skills.
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F L A W L E S S
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>>147410430
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what is the fastest way to level clothing in the aldmeri dominion? I want to find a good place to steal a lot of light and medium armor. I also plan to do this with woodworking.
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>>147410430
You're a legend amongst mer, Clive.
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ded
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>>147410976
Try to get into higher level zones and steal there. Higher level stuff gives a lot more inspiration. I had a lvl 10 character with 30+ in equipment crafting because he was deconning items picked up by my vet level character.
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>>147329814
I grind from time to time as well and it's not bullshit at all. The only thing I did was to activate the scroll but I had no gear or other bonuses and every level took about 25 minutes. Take that into account.

>>147348893
Here we go again...
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>>147413403
>>147410976
Isn't stuff you steal scaled to your level? Or your crafting level?
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god damn I hate the market system in this game. yeah, yeah, it's great for flipping items and releasing your inner jew, I know, but every time I need to buy some shit I spend over an hour going around the traders checking if they have what I need and for an acceptable price.

what exactly is wrong with a central auction house? why did ZOS had to be special snowflakes and make their own system instead of using the tried and ture?
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>>147416509
It's like Eve without Jita.
Except travelling is much easier, safer, and quicker so it's not actually that bad.
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>>147416509
What are you looking for that's so expensive in main cities?
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>>147416763
I was looking for recipes to complete my provision writ. For some reason people really like to overprice tier 1 recipes and I'm new enough that I don't have a pile of gold to just say "fuck it" and pay the 1000% markup.
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Isn't the server supposed to have gone down already?
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So are the racials a big enough deal to reroll? I made an Argonian Templar and I want to do pvp eventually.
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>>147417565
They are if you care about min/maxing and if you aren't a casual, you should care

And race change is coming in update 11, so if you're already good on your way to lvl 50, you might just wait instead of starting over.
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>>147417565
They're going to sell for real money tokens to change your race, goy.
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>>147417412
maintenance is tomorrow
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>>147417724
>have a 3-faction pvp system
>make the interesting races shit
Uninstalled. Thanks.
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>>147418116
except nobody told you that argonians are a shit choice for templars
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>>147418761

>>147417724
"They are if you care about min/maxing and if you aren't a casual, you should care"
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>>147417313
I think you can buy recipes from Chefs and Brewers of that level so you should be able to just buy level 1 recipes from an NPC in your starter town.
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>>147419029
>So are the racials a big enough deal to reroll?
>They are if you care about min/maxing
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Where's the best city to do crafting writs? You know, where the bank, crafting request board, and crafting stations are all in close proximity?

Are there crafting writ boards in Rawl'Kha?
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>>147417565
Racials matter 5%. I've done everything with Argonian stamblade except Vet Maw, so there's that.
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>>147419182
Rawl'kha doesn't have boards. I go to do writs in Stormhold. The only fault there is that the wayshrine isn't close by. But no city has the perfect configuration.
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>>147417565
my breton dk pulls 28k
my dunmer dk pulls 31k
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>>147419182
Rawlka boards are near the smithing station and out the back near the enchanting station
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>>147419182
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>>147419760
>>147420638

I suppose only your own faction has the boards enabled because the boards aren't interactable for me in Rawl'kha.
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Where are the biggest trading guilds located in PC EU?
Rawl'kha? Craglorn?
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>>147421152
The guild stores that get the most traffic are the ones in the front line in Craglorn. Every store in Mournhold is great because they are all in a circle right around the wayshrine. Rawl'kha is the same, each store is probably good. Don't know how Mournhold and Rawl'kha rate in total traffic. Anyway, get into a trading guild in any of those areas.
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>rp currently happening at the wayrest church

jesus
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>>147422559
>surprised there's RP happening in the RP central of Tamriel
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Friend just bought the game on PC and is already getting discouraged because he's getting the "210 PatchManifestError _ DownloadFail" error

So far he's tried

Running as administrator
Manually putting patch manifest into ProgramData folder
Deleting ProgramData folder
Repairing game client
Restarting client
Opening and closing client several times
Restarting computer

Any ideas?
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>>147423230
well he certainly tried almost everything I would have suggested

all that remains is to uninstall everything, delete documents folder, and delete the launcher itself as well.

re-download launcher and try again
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>>147423230
Enough space on the harddrive?
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Can we discuss the Haj Mota set again? The consensus is still that it's shit, right?
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>>147425862
it frees up space that an ability that gives the major buffs, so it's got that going for it. not too good of a set though, no way it's better than bloodspawn, lwd, scourger etc.
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>>147422559
>>147422857
>surprised there's RP happening in the MMORPG which is based on single player RPG series.
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>>147129696
Is this on the US server? What happen to the Kuta price?

On EU it's the opposite, pretty much everything have became more expensive.
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If you taunt an enemy and go into cloak, do you lose aggro?
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>>147430134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPgyS4pGCNk
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>>147430686
Seriously, if I'm a NB tank and I'm taunting the boss in a 4 man dungeon, and I cloak myself to get the passive bonuses, what happens? Do the tank still see me?
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Threadly reminder that this was a thing and actually happen and someone at Zenimax thought it was a good idea.
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>>147432221
u jelly bro?
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Why the heck do you keep promoting and demoting people in the guild
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Hey guys, about to purchase this game. I see the game is $12 on G2A from some German seller. This legit? Never bought from them before. I'm from the US. Will this change anything?
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How can I justify my lawful good cleric joining the dark brotherhood?
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>>147434808
seller country doesn't matter, should be legit

bought my copy from g2a as well and been playing without problems for almost a year
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>>147433731
Yesterday I told clv to merge all the Anonymous ranks into one, maybe he's doing that.
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>>147435004
cool anon thanks. when they give me a key, do I enter that key into steam, yeah?
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what is the endgame? pvp?
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>>147435063
No, you enter it on the elder scrolls online page

>>147433731
>>147435025
it seems he started the process, but I he's having issues telling who is where
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>tfw wanna get this game on Steam so it can log all of my hours
>tfw could just get it via G2A for $7 less but no screenshot support on Steam or playtime tracker
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>>147435738
/played tells you per character played time, but won't count time looking at the title screen when you're logged out
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>>147435738
You'll end up playing from the exe anyway
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>>147435867
>>147435894
Yeah but I like it saying on Steam "Anon has played ESO for 324 hours"
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>>147435976
It won't say it when you play from the exe
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>>147416509

Fuck central auction houses. They create too much artificial influence in prices of items. Some things race to a price floor and have no value, other things a small group of jews manipulates the entire supply of them and keeps the price artificially high.

Here you can charge higher prices because your guild's merchant is in a more convenient location, etc. You can also shop around and find killer baragains, more like a real economy.
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>>147418761

if you're going to be a healing templar Argonians are going to be the best choice after Update 11.
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>>147437235
or you can spend 30 minutes jumping from one trader to the next, looking for a fish stick recipe and not find anything, because nobody had them. at least in central AH you know immediately what's available

crown store portable trader than includes listings from all other traders when?
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>>147437426
>crown store portable trader than includes listings from all other traders when?
Die already
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>>147437732
suck my dick faggot
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>>147438064
Suck ZOS' cock you humongous cuck
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>>147437426
>crown store portable trader than includes listings from all other traders when?
Shit, I think I would actually pay for that.
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>>147437235
This game doesn't even have a central AH? Christ almighty.
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>>147437426

see before the crime system and before change to provisioning that came with it, I used to make pretty good money selling tier 2 and tier 3 crafting recipes (that just happened to be the tier that made the most money), as I had multiple level 16 characters in Grahtwood and a level 27ish in Greenshade. Every day I'd do a quick loot run of the Altmer Embassy, the Dwemer ruin that was the fighter's guild quest in Elden Root, and Marbruk. I could also find noobs selling those recipes for like, 100g for greens, 250g for blues in chat.

Green recipes I sold for about 2k, blue recipes I sold for 3k, they sold pretty well because my guild had their merchant in Rawl'kha. It was pretty good. Between that and nirncrux and dwemer pages I was making about 50-100k a day depending on how many crux and pages I found.

Global auction house? Prices would have tanked because noobs would be selling those same recipes and pages for a lot less.

Now if you're just looking for green recipes for fucking writs. Just go to a brewer/cook in the town that matches your provisioning tier and buy it for a few hundred gold moron.
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>>147438169
oh trust me, I would if that would make me not have to deal with this piece of shit trading system you colossal transnigger
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>>147438250

it's a player merchant guild driven system. Your guild rents out an NPC merchant every week (it's a bidding system) that sells the stuff on your guild store to the public. LOCATION IS EVERYTHING. The more convenient your guild store location, the better your stuff will sell. It's more interesting than a central auction house system and also spreads out the economy so it isn't controlled by a handful of power jews who do nothing but trade all day with spreadsheets and shit.
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>>147438791
>it isn't controlled by a handful of power jews who do nothing but trade all day with spreadsheets and shit

oh, anon..
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>>147438791
>it isn't controlled by a handful of power jews who do nothing but trade all day with spreadsheets and shit
This sounds like it's exactly what the system promotes.
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>>147437426

The point being is that the trader route is harder for someone to centrally manipulate like it is on basically every MMO with a central AH. The thing that made trading in games like UO so good is because trading was done via a huge amount of house vendors or done in person. The fact you can't find fish dicks is irrelevant as ultimately it's more important that the player economy can't be centrally manipulated by AH bots or addons.
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>>147416509
> God damn I hate the market system in this game. yeah, yeah, it's great for flipping items and releasing your inner jew
Git gud and jewish. The market system is one of the best things in the entire game.
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>>147439115

except your guild is directly competing against other guilds and your guild can and will get displaced from their merchant through a well timed bid by another guild, forcing your guild to have to try to scramble and find another merchant to sell at that week, and regardless lose millions of gold that week. My guild got displaced a few times and after I stopped playing and got booted for inactivity, they must have kept losing their preferred spot, because they're no longer in Rawl.
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>>147439160
>The fact you can't find fish dicks is irrelevant as ultimately it's more important that the player economy can't be centrally manipulated by AH bots or addons

this made me laugh, but I disagree. convenience is extremely important to me because I'm lazy. and so far nobody is selling me on the fact that it "can't be manipulated"

seems to me like the rich trading guilds will always have the best spots locked down, and will still be able to influence prices a great deal
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>>147439197
I'm not looking for a jew simulator, I just want to kill daedra and zerg rush Ash
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>>147439074

It's a lot easier to do that when the market is central and the jews can look at the entire supply of a rare item at once, and control their price. See GW2, You'd think as time goes on precursor weapons for legendaries would go down in price, they never did, they went up with gold inflation, because they were rare enough that a handful of people controlled all of them, and therefore controlled the price.
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>>147439457
This right here. Trade guilds actual make sense in ESO compared to a lot of other games and it's something you can be actively engaged in. You're directly competing against other guilds, and just how a PvE and PvP guild kick inactive members or expect you to be able to attend trails and sieges in Cyrodiil, a trade guild expect you to have 30 slots filled and sell a certain amount each week to contribute to the cause.
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>>147434919
There is no way, and I've tried so hard. This bothers me a lot, actually. TG and DB are both DLCs for criminal scum.

You could easily justify doing them as Lawful Neutral when playing AD Queen Ayrenn's agent or even Chaotic Good, but Lawful good can't be done without some literally insane mental gymnastics.
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>>147439640
And do crafting writs, apparently.
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>>147439523

Can't is a strong word but certainly it is a lot harder to manipulate. Don't get me wrong, the central traders are a jewfest but someone can't just buyout all the fish dicks and relist then at marginal increase to turn a profit.

The system encourages those who have traders in less known spots to advertise them to get more traffic. Whilst this is morr effort on their part it also means they end up paying less for the trader. The system has also encouraged more manual trading to happen via chat which IMO is a good thing in an MMO.

Overall yeah it can suck for convenience but its a deeper system than a central AH and one that plays to what an MMO should be about which is the social aspect. Depends on what you're looking for though.
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>>147440397

I'm just glad that TG and DB are out the fucking way and we can move on. The quests were alright but they suck as far as additions to the game go and I always knew they would. Now that they're done it means that Skyrim and Oblivion fags won't piss and moan about their absence.
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>>147403941
Was leveling tank but thinking of switching to 2h because autism.
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>>147443020

I hope spellcrafting comes with another mage's guild questline. I love playing my sorc but it just doesn't feel right for him to be a dick ass thief.
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>>147443649

IMO they should extend both the Fighters and Mages Guild but also make it so you have to kind of commit this time. Even if you only 'commit' to a guild as much as you commit to being a vamp or werewolf.

Add some extra titles, motifs, gear, etc that require you to have done some sandbox content whilst aligned to a specific guild. Once housing comes out, offer up some furniture that you can get if you're dedicated more to one guild over the other. If spellcrafting and maneuver creation gets added then slap in some extra aesthetics if you're higher up in a guild you're pledged too. You could even throw in some guild related stuff that allows you to align your guild with the Fighters, Mages, DB, TG or your Alliance and provides some additional aesthetics and bonuses (albeit very minor) based on that.
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>>147445167

That'd be nice, but they'd have to add questlines to the zones they add with those expansions that people not in the guild could do if they want any hope of selling those DLC's. if you make things mutually exclusive and do it through DLC, they're not going to sell well.
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>>147445802

That should happen too but being a 'Mage' or 'Fighter' is at least more inclusive than being a dick ass thief or edgyfoldedathousandtimes assassin. They're more general concepts at least.

All that aside I just want the fucking justice system back. Would have been so cool to lay the smackdown on some outlaws.
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>>147446278

>back

It was never a part of the game to begin with, what we have is the incomplete system and since Paul Sage left, nobody has picked it up.
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I recently started this game and I have decided to get into woodworking and clothing crafting for my sorcerer. It has been really frustrating for me to figure out how to properly level them or do anything useful with it. I usually don't like crafting systems in mmo's because they tend to grinds, so I like to find the most efficient way to grind it out. I have been trying to find crafting guides, but the information I find seems to be really out of date. I also don't have a partner so I'm doing this alone.

Is there a current guide on how to efficiently level crafting by yourself?
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I can't decide whether to go Stamina or Magicka on my DK. I like to both pve and pvp..
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>>147447597
Always be researching. Deconstruct everything you aren't using. Other than that idk. I'm not gonna bother leveling any profs until I'm at cap. Oh, get the hirelings. Free mats are great.
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>>147447597
Easiest way is probably to just deconstruct items you loot while leveling and questing. You can also steal stuff and launder it to have more things to deconstruct. Some folks find a leveling partner near their crafting skill level, craft X of the same thing, then trade - you get good inspiration from breaking down stuff you loot or other people craft, but bad gains from breaking down stuff you make yourself.
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>>147447983
>I'm not gonna bother leveling any profs until I'm at cap

why do you hate yourself, anon?
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>>147447726
Depends on your race famalam. Stamdk is the tits for peak pve dps tho, and fantastic in pve, especially if you've got lots of melanin.
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>>147447496

By back I mean actually finish ye.
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>>147448126
any good places to steal a lot of items to deconstruct? I saw a guide that was in the daggerfall covenant, but I'm in aldmeri dominion.
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>>147448274
> and fantastic in pve,
that should read pvp. fuck.
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>>147448274
Race doesn't matter to me, I picked Dunmer because I wanted to/it's an ok middle ground between stam and magicka. I'm mostly concerned because I have a Stamblade and they both seem to play very similar, even using the same weapons most of the time..
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>>147448250
I don't like doing professions while leveling. It's always a pain in the ass.
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>>147448403
Best place I've seen is the market district in davon's watch, EP first zone. If you can find someone with access to the area from having finished the alliance story quest to help you port there, it's good for mixed wood/tailor/bsmith. Windhelm mages guild is good for just wood. If you can't find someone, just need to check the towns you've been to for plenty to steal that's not in line of sight of where the NPCs usually stand.
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>>147448482

It's not so bad with ESO. Get the Research Assistant add on, research what you need to and deconstruct the rest (this will level your craft). You only really need to sink points into the crafting trait that allows you to research more items at once and also decreases research times. You'll thank yourself later if you do this.
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>>147448482
if you think it won't be an even bigger pain in the ass later, you're dead wrong, anon.
start your crafting ASAP or you will regret it, I promise
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>>147447597
You should be doing crafting writs as well as deconstructing loot. If you have another source of income, spend money on high level items to deconstruct. I'm doing this to get the last few levels in enchanting.
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whats the /esog/ guild status
ded?
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>>147449052
thank you.
>>147449601
well I was making money from selling the stuff I am now deconstructing. How do you make money when you are deconstructing everything? Maybe I could just deconstruct the things I specifically care about training?
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>>147450349
both guilds are fairly new, so I wouldn't say ded, just not grown yet

just join you little shit
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nb or sorc for pvp?
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>>147450865
nb if you want to play the same class as 60% of all other players

stamsorc if you want to fast and have fun
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>>147450352
I make my money doing writs. I have 6 characters lvl 36-50+ doing 3-4 writs each and I net 8-10k/day. I use addons to automate the tedious steps.
I don't know what level you are, but at higher levels equipment writs pay a lot more money than it costs even if you're buying mats.
You should be able to do alchemy, enchanting and provisioning writs with mats you collect so it's all profit.
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oh shit where the thread guy at
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>>147451031
interesting. Any advice on what addons to get for crafting and finding nodes?
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