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Maybe this way? Edition.

Elder Thread: >>146676463

>Official news

Dark Brotherhood DLC is out!
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/dlc/darkbrotherhood
https://youtu.be/xrIdDh7_TBw

One Tamriel announced:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/12/matt-firors-message-from-be3

First DLC dungeon pack coming soon™:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/21/update-11-featuring-shadows-of-the-hist-first-look

>Latest patch notes
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes

>Sales and deals
http://www.dlgamer.us/download-the_elder_scrolls_online-pc_games-p-19435.html (authorized reseller)
http://www.kinguin.net/es/catalogsearch/result/index/?q=elder+scrolls+online (some anons have been using it without issues so far)

>Online lore portal and map
http://www.imperial-library.info/
http://uesp.net/wiki/Online:Online
http://esomap.uesp.net/

>UI addons for PC
http://esoui.com/addons.php

>Assorted links
http://teso-rp.com/
http://esoacademy.com/
http://www.the-elder-scrolls-by-mysticals.com/
http://eso-fashion.com/

>/tesog/ Guilds
[PC NA] message @clv or @the_kyrox for invite
[PC EU] message @the_kyrox for invite
[PS4 NA and EU] message PSN: kibukj. There is also an ESOG PSN community.

>We have a Discord open for every platform:
https://discord.gg/0zy535yopcQNGH6I

>Platform poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10281492
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Aaand I'm late
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Should I make my Imperial EP if my other character is also EP? Can anyone give me the rundown on the 3 factions (I'm EU)? Can you transfer money/items across factions?
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Wow holy shit, a Templar stamina build is fucking terrible for PvP
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Orsimer girs are damn qt.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/4q7111/datamining_32_new_vvardenfell_pois_found_in_250/
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>>146886523
Banks are account wide, you can easily pass things that aren't bound to a specific character this way though I've only really encountered that with collectibles (so you don't cheese the achievements, I guess) and maybe shit you've dyed. I've never tried passing dyed stuff off to another character.

Faction is mostly for flavor or PVP if you care about that. I don't know about the PVP side - especially on EU as I'm NA - but EP is pretty fun. With two characters you can explore different options in quests from your first go at them.

I've only done a bit of AD but I've liked it. You get to be a Queen's Spy and work with Khajiiti James Bond. Not tried DC yet so no opinion there (but really, being an Imperial among a bunch of other races of men feels a waste of the ability to chose any faction, t b h. Might as well be a breton or redguard.)
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So how the hell do you find people for a dungeon in this mmorpg? I'm guessing that dungeon finder isn't working properly or at all. Announcing lfg in zone chat doesn't help at all. It's my first dungeon and the first one you get to play and already it seems extremely hard to find anyone. Should I simply move on and disregard the dungeon quests?
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if you play PvP and got used to your alliance
I ended up making 2 alts in AD just as my main because I couldn't stomach fighting against them when I took another race
t.ips eagle banner
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Is the game growing or dying?
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>>146887738
growing
why does everyone ask those questions?
yes it's pretty fun
no it's not dying
REEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>146887907
I'm just asking because I recently purchased it and I'm enjoying things so far, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of buzz surrounding it. Just want to know the state of the game.
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>>146887738
I think stalled, may grow or die in the next months
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Is this correct?
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>snek waifu(s) acquired
The Hollow City stuff is pretty fun. Gotta be weird with multiple people though. Does everyone only see their choices, or do we get phased to be with people who made the same ones or what?

>>146888262
There's not a lot of buzz outside of it, but it seems to do well within it's walls. I haven't seen much animosity towards the devs (aside from the typical "they nerfed my shit!" PvP woes, or "why is this STILL BROKE?" bug woes endemic to all MMO populaces), people seem okay with the payment model, zone chat is fairly active everywhere (but most heavily active in the lower level zones - I think high level types just idle in capital cities while waiting for dungeon groups or something) and I've only really seen it slow down in places like Coldharbour, which is understandable because that's level 45 and up content.

It's still getting regular content patches too, which always strikes me as a good sign of being not-dead.
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>>146889498
Yes. ESO is considered canon and they have a talk up on their youtube page where they detail their quest-writing process. Part of it involves going to Bethesda "hey is this shit alright, can we say this?"

That said, TES lore is pretty fucking flexible. If Bethesda later changes their mind about anything expect it to get explained away as a rumor, myth, something changed by a dragonbreak or CHIM, etc.
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>>146889498
no, another guy who's higher ranking said Todd has the final say in what is and isnt canon.

That white haired faggot said the past games were more fairytales when its actually quite the opposite.
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>>146887738
It's grown a load in the last year.

The first year after launch was abysmal, their shitty price structure (£40+monthly sub) and the lack of actual content (Craglorn was the only content released over the period of an entire year). The player base after that was pretty small.

After IC, people started hoping they were getting their shit together and adding content, and with the game going B2P, people started returning as no sub was required. Then Orsinium was released and everyone was insanely impressed, it was huge and masterfully crafted. Since then there's been a wave of content and people seem to be getting hype, with more people returning all the time and actual new players for the first time since launch. For example, /tesog/ only existed for a few weeks after launch, then would pop up once every few months and die after 100 posts, now though it's been going steady for a few months, which is nice.

We're all hoping ZOS doesn't fuck it up somehow.
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>>146887738
Not sure if it have grown or shrunk. However I know that the queues for my PvP campaign have became longer and longer. User to not having to queue to it at all.
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>>146889498
Does anyone have that Bethesda tweet where Bethesda says that TESO is cannon? I have seen it a couple of times in /tesg/ and /tgesg/. Last time I saw it 5~ months ago. I used to have it too but my HDD broke.
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>>146891216
No idea what you're talking about. There's a tweet from Bethesda saying TESO won't affect the development of future Elder Scrolls games claiming that would render ESO non-canon, but that's just being disingenuous.
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What's the skull and 2 swords icon on the map for? I know there's world bosses in this game so I figured it's that, but I've never seen any of them spawn. Anywhere I could read up on it or someone gimme a rundown?
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>>146893362
Those are world bosses, yes. You must be coming after they've recently died, they seem to respawn after like, maybe 10 minutes or so. Have a /sit and wait a bit. They're not too hard, at least in core zones. Usually soloable unless you're really bad or your build is trash or both.

World Bosses in other places are a bit more respectable though. The ones in the Gold Coast and Orsinium are very much -not- soloable for someone in leveling gear who's just kind of wandered into a ruin on a whim.

Fucking giant minotaur bastard. ;_;
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>>146893697
that feels when I can still solo world bosses but it was easier on sorc with a pet, I took no damage and just could just keep spamming the boss with spells until it died
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>>146886167
It's downloading as we speak. Are racial skills as important as your other skills
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>>146894720
Depends on your race. If you're a sword user and your racial gives you bonus to stamina it's worth investing in. Otherwise it's meh.
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>>146894869
Meh, I'll see at character creation.

Looking at the wiki a lot of the armour sets look REALLY good in this game which is a nice change from most MMO's
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Someone please explain the relationship between Sithis and Mephala.
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>>146890746
>The first year after launch was abysmal

This. It was really pretty awful. In all honesty I think the game would have been best launching with the TG and DB content (just to get it the fuck out of the way for the normie crowd) and then potentially released IC followed by Orsinium. At the very least the game needed to be launched later and have the PC and console launches far closer together than they were.

ESO is up there with the worst AAA MMO releases. Definitely in the last 5 years at least.
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I fucking hate that DB personality. Every second cucks poses like he was the emperor himself with that pushed out chest
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>>146898109

It looks alright on females. Looks gay as fuck on any male characters though.
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>>146898109
Yeah it's pretty bad on males, looks much better on females.
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>>146898109
>>146898262
>>146898280

>Mfw all my characters are female and they all use the personality
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>>146896296
Mephala is a daedric prince of murder, secrets and plot, while Sithis is a primordial force birthed of Padomay, much like Anu-iel was birthed of Anu. Sithis is quite a bit higher on the food chain of power, but how much will or agency it has it very questionable at best. All we really know for sure is that it is a force of destruction and wants things to be un-made again.

Presumably you ask because of the Morag Tong and Dark Brotherhood, who each venerate one of the two. Personally I don't think Sithis has the capacity to operate on the level that it does to the Brotherhood - it doesn't strike me as an entity that would have much consciousness or the capacity to really care or acknowledge mortal cultures and life anymore than you could care for an individual ant or the struggles between opposing colonies. And murder is so very, very slow and individually focused as a means of unmaking things, really.

T B H I think it's all just a scheme by Mephala, playing a splinter group off her loyal followers by taking on the guise of the "Night Mother", claiming to get orders from above, and throwing in a bit of divine intervention every so often to quell any disbelief.

There's no way the eight limbs on Sithis' statue in the Argonian Sanctuary are a coincidence IMO.
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how does one make friends in this game?
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Is this game worth playing now? Friend bought it for me since it's selling for like $5 now. He says we should play together because it's good but his taste in games is shit and he never plays it anyway.

I played during the beta and wasn't impressed and don't feel like downloading the entire game if I'm going to dump it after an hour (shit'll take me 20+ hours to download and cause my connection to go to shit while downloading).
I've done some reading up and like the idea of classes not forcing you into specific roles, is this actually true or just people exaggerating? (I don't mind if certain builds are more optimal, but if the only viable tank is Dragonknight that's different)
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Bought two keys off Kinguin, one was invalid other one worked, so far waiting to hear back from them to see if i can get any kind of refund (got buyer protection) will inform once i hear back
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>>146901226

>I've done some reading up and like the idea of classes not forcing you into specific roles, is this actually true or just people exaggerating? (I don't mind if certain builds are more optimal, but if the only viable tank is Dragonknight that's different)

There's 40 dungeons and variation of said dungeons that's for 4 players or above (not including public dungeons, that's pretty much just caves out in the world made for two or more players and where people can come and go as they please).

Out of these there's only one, a 12-player dungeon, the veteran version of Maw of Lorkaj, where you need templar healers and dk tank. While it may not be impossible, you're not going to find a serious trial group that will do it without a dk tank.
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>>146900851
A guild perhaps?

>>146901226
I just want to point out that you're asking this question in a general populated by people who play the game.
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>>146902471

Who else would I ask? A bunch of people who don't play the game whether it's worth playing or not?
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>>146901226
>>146902359

So yea it's fair to say that you can play any class as anything even if some builds are more optimal than others.

I should add that if you didn't like the game before due to the combat you're not gonna like it now either. And you're gonna have to learn stuff like animation cancelling if you ever aim to git gud.
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>>146902559
The answer to your question is yes, it is worth playing.
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>>146900851
>how does one make friends in this game?
Are you on xbox or ps4 us? otherwise read the op
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>>146900090
Speaking of statues, who is the lady in the Abah's Landing TG cistern?
Here are the in-game theories:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lady_in_the_Cistern_Theories
Or could the statue represent someone else?
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>>146902951
>>146902768

See, that wasn't hard was it. I'll give it a try.
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>>146903039
God luck and remember to come back if you've questions, and in case you don't like it for whatever reason I'm sure there's enough people here to point you towards an mmo more in your liking. Every man to his taste
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>>146903463

If I don't like it, I will find you...
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>>146886751
I've seen incredibly thin player Orsimer, they just don't look right.
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>>146903463
>WhereisSutch
I dunno, you can find ruins of Dasek Moor and fort Strand. I look into it tomorrow, there is even a mention of Sutch in TESO:
>Jorunn the Skald-King visited Sutch in his youth, some time between 2E 546 and 2E 572.
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>>146886751
>>146905072
>disgusting filthy orcs
>not imperial\breton master race

shit taste desu senpai
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>>146906618
>Around 2E 582, Sir Phrastus of Elinhir met with a hunter in the marketplace of Sutch, who had brought with them the carcass of a rare River Troll.
Okay I really need to play the Dark Brotherhood, the only problem is that my "assasin" character is only 40lvl and I want him to be max lvl.
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>>146887129
Looks like we're gonna get something as big, if not bigger, than Orsinium. I like it.
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>>146906794
My main is a Breton.
Reminder: Breton are Ketchup.
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>>146902985
I'm agreeing with Velsa, that it's the Night mother. But the letters end with Zeira so I suppose it's suppose to be Leki.
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>>146900090
nice catch
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>>146900090
Nice catch
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Is there any point in making a very stealthy character who is not a Bosmer or Khajiit?
I want to create a character specifically for Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood and I really like to make him a Dunmer.
The racial stealth bonuses are not achievable by any other means and in close quarters the 3 meter reduction in detection radius would seem to be highly significant.
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>>146909284
Choose the glorious dunmer! Why would anyone even consider of playing as cannibalistic manlet elf or as furry gypsy junkie? Literally 2nd and 3rd shirtiest race, 1st being the orsimer. I had no problems while doing the heists or black sacraments as dunmer. And you do know the Morag Tong and Camonna Tong?
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>>146910101
>shirtiest race
Fucking auto correct, I meant shittiest.
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So can I make a DW Nightblade that uses magicka costing class abilities viable for PvE or would it be too hybridy?
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>>146909284
You can do it if you're a night blade. My Argonian nbs can do tg and db with no issues.
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>>146910101
>And you do know the Morag Tong and Camonna Tong?
Yes, that's the main reason I want to go with a Dunmer. I have so much to draw from with Dunmers from playing the games from Morrowind on up and I really have little feel for Bosmer or Khajiit.
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Rofl dungeon pack costs 1.5k crowns. I said previously that 1k was fair but this is going to be good to watch.

Especially since I expect the barbershop race change/appearance change to cost 1.5k crowns per token at least.
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New player here.

How do magic elemental effects like chilled work? When I hit enemies with ice magic and try to freeze them with Elemental Barricade, they never become immobilized. I can never rely on it to slow enemies down, and always end up having to use Destructive Reach or Restraining Prison abilities.

Am I doing something wrong? I even have the perk that increases the chance... Do light attacks not cause the status effects?
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>>146911101
No it's how most people play. You use one resource pool for damage and one for utility. So a DW nightblade going around casting cloak and magicka-based debuffs is perfectly viable.
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>>146911608
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/06/28/update-11-featuring-shadows-of-the-hist-launch-details

Source
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>>146911735
> 2 dungeons for half the price of Orsinium
They saw how people bought the glowing black senche and know they're gonna get away with this.
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>>146911684
Here you go.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/111840/status-effects-and-you
Chilled don't freeze them, only slows them down.
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>>146911101
I've seen magicka NB builds that use dw and staff. I'm looking to go that way for my new Dunmer nb since a blade of some sort seems a necessity for a Nightblade. Maybe enchanting them with flame damage will make sense with the Dunmer passives for flame damage.
My previous experience with a nb was not good. He was a dw/bow Bosmer nb back before they made stamina builds practical. Leveling was difficult especially since he was leveling 4 crafts as well.
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If I get just the game, without DLCs, can I play until the last level or is there a limit without DLC?
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>>146911608
>>146912242
>>146911608
Not the first time or the last time ZOS lies.
>We won't change our payment model (2014 and 2015 before b2p)
>A new group dungeon every 6 weeks(2014)
>Crown store is PURELY cosmetical (2015)
>Bear mount is obtainable from a quest in Orsinium DLC (2015)
>Shadow of the Hist will cost 1000 crowns (2016)
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>>146912958
>If I get just the game, without DLCs, can I play until the last level
Yes.
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A question for those in RP guilds

I see cool screenshots of gatherings and stuff and it looks fun to watch. Do I have to be an active member or can I just lurk and watch whatever they do
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>>146913160
Thanks, I'll buy it! The last MMORPG I played was Dungeon and Dragons Online. Man, that was really fun. I hope to live that all again here.
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>>146903463
Isn't Sutch a little bit more north, like just off the map?
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what's the average expected dps for endgame content?

what's good dps?
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>>146915412
20k is good enough for everything except one trial.
25k and above if you want to do vet maw of lorkhaj.
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Where can I practice my rotation and dps? I've heard the giants are pretty good but I don't have orsinium.
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>>146915412
10k = Non-vet tier
20k = Average tier
30k = Decent tier
40k = Top tier
50k = Stam DK tier
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>>146916523
top tier's only reachable in sustained fights with good buffing

else 30k+ self buffed is competitive endgame dps
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>>146916465
vet dungeons
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>>146916465
Get Orsinium.

Though giants only have about 100k HP, so they die too quickly to properly practice rotations, they are good for testing the DPS of your rotation at its max, but not practicing keeping all your DOTs and buffs up, for that you can only just really do vet dungeons/trials over and over.
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>>146916837
What spell/weapon damage should I be looking for for that DPS, and how do I get it up?
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>>146917243
1900-3000 unbuffed

sets
major sorcery
trap
dots
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hey does anyone know if there's a way to report bugged quests?

For example the area where you have to race on "Lifting the Veil" keeps reloading while the timer keeps running, forcing me to restart it. I've had a friend log into my account and try it out and he experienced the same problem.

Also in Shadowfen there are around 2 quests in that can't be completed because the action prompts don't do anything
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>>146918669
submit a ticket
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>>146916523
At least post solo dps targets, not stuff that needs a group to achieve with war horns, spell power cure etc.

>>146916837
>else 30k+ self buffed is competitive
^
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WEW LAD almost an hour between last 2 posts.

DISCUSSION TIME
Anyone excited for the new racials or anything you'd like to see in HIST update that's not been explicitly revealed/tested?
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How do I learn the last whitecap trait (lower spell crit)? Combining it with nirnroot creates an invalid potion.
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>>146924526
Probably poison, not a potion.
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>>146925117
Tried that too, no go. Butterfly wing + white cap and Nirnroot + white cap both fail with natural water and grease
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>>146925698
That's ravage spell power
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>>146925806
woops, yeah, but whitecap doesn't have lower spell crit. It has
- Lower Spell Power
- Ravage Magicka
- Increase Spell Resist
- Detection
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>>146926206
That would explain it. My addons and all sites that reference white cap have lower spell crit listed.
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>>146926275
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Online:Alchemy_Ingredients seems more accurate, see
http://www.uesp.net/w/index.php?title=Online:Alchemy_Ingredients&action=history
>1 June 2016 Fix spelling of Fleshfly and change White Cap's last trait due to patch
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>>146918101
what are dots and traps?
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>>146887387
nowadays if you aren't at least 300 cp and lvl 50 you aren't gonna do shit, next best thing would be to find other people your lvl or hire a max lvled person to help with dungeons
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>>146924391
Not happy with Argonian changes since it only benefits magicka builds and minorly nerfs stam and tank builds. Also not really lore-friendly, Argonians are supposed to be good at stealth, skirmishing, and scouting.

I'd rather give Argonians stam bonuses and give dark elfs mag bonuses which are more in line with their flame dmg passives. Course that pigeonholes the other way and stam dunmers will complain, but eh.
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>>146918101
>2.9k unbuffed
Oh good.
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>>146889498
No. ESO is not non-canon but Bethesda has zero barriers from ESO, as in their lore is above ESO and if they wish to completely ignore it's lore they easily can.
People also forget that after ESO two dragonbreaks happen if there isn't one in ESO and that TES games are basically in a different timeline at this point.
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>>146900090
>Destruction
Fuck off, it's force of change and chaos not just wanton destruction. It's part of the binary code where Anui-El is true (1) while Sithis is false (0).
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I asked in previous thread and I will ask again.
I'm a new player that's feeling empty as fuck because my friends don't want to play ESO and majority of the playerbase seems to be a bit autistic.
Any players or rp guilds on here want a lorefag of 13 years to join your ranks or something? Hell if anyone just wants to friend up and play together I am up for it.
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>>146930487
Go check out teso-rp.com, they have good resources there.
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*sweats profusely*
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>>146930487
Do these threads even have an active guild?
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>>146930907
I am not sure wizard of the trains.
When will you get back to your game development?
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>>146930961
Still converting things to CryEngine, it's a slow process, and I gotta finish up Maxwell's World
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>>146930487
>>146930907
Do you play NA PC? People in the guild are p active
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>>146931062
Yep, NA, PC.
Does /tesog/ guild have rp?
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>>146931062
What's the guild even?
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I just bought this game and I'm mad that there is only one type of eye in this character customization to choose from. I am furious 1/10
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>>146931247
Haven't seen anyone rp, we just talk and do dungeons together

>>146931262
send a message to the person in the op for an invite
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>>146931592
Neither are online.
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>>146931796
whisper me then @Geobasket
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was fun lads. even with our hacker.
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Does the PC NA guild accept filthy casuals who just want to fuck around and explore and shit instead of doing dungeons?
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>>146932032
>3.93 MB file size
Wew, sorry lads I have made a grave mistake.
also >>146932032 riding your fucking guar was
top giggle.
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>>146932103
I don't see why we wouldn't unless you're an absolute unbearable fucking sperg. The guild is easily the least autistic 4chan guild i've joined in any mmo/game. Mostly quiet but a few of us chat and no one will pester you over w/e you're doing

ALSO AIDS >>146932123
was meant for >>146931919
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>>146932103
we welcome everyone
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>>146932103
I'm in the guild and I mostly create new characters, level them up and delete them.
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>>146932559
This sounds like how I play every MMO. Not having a good group of friends to raid with sucks.
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how dare you all run dungeons without me

t. mad gamer
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>>146928715
>damage over time
>trap beast

trap beast being an ability that gives 12% crit damage
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Anyone on PTS? About how long does it take to do the new dungeons? Are the normal and vet mode different?
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>>146924391
I'm happy they decided to only buff the perceived as weaker racials and add a little flavour to all, rather than nerf the stronger ones. no longer sweating redguards

I'd like to see a confirmation that with the race-change mechanic, players with the adventure pack can change to a race from a different alliance, and stay in their current alliance. Bosmer NB wants to be redguard, but wants to keep playing for AD.
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>>146924391
dunmer 2% frost and shock damage means force pulse is better

i like that vma buff
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>>146929126
Damn, that sucks. Will I miss a lot of cool content if I skip the dungeons?
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>>146932123
>>146932309
If only I could ride those triplets like I rode my guar

>>146933285
dw friend, we can do dungeons tomorrow
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>>146936780
I don't know what that poster is taking about. I have never had any problem finding people to do dungeons with at any level.
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>>146937956
I have spent around 2h yesterday trying to find people for the first dungeon. How do you do it?
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>>146938164
I also have no problems finding groups for anything low-level. Your problem could be that you're playing in off-peak hours. If it's not that, then you're simply unlucky. Also, remember that different zones have different chats. If you're trying to do Undaunted quest dungeon specifically, and are looking for a group for it in a higher level zone, then you might have a hard time finding anything.
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>>146939509
Probably not that much traffic in evenings central EU time then. In regards to zones, how far does zone reach. Is it the whole region map, like for example Stonefalls?
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>>146940673
>Is it the whole region map, like for example Stonefalls?
Yes.
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Anyone online so I can pm them and get added to the guild?
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>>146941351
You can send a mail to the person in OP with your @ name so if they're not on, they can still see the message and can add you.
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>>146941495
already did
but just in case @Lorkhatosh
if anyone who can add sees this add me
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>>146942138
Aight, when I hop on I'll add you if haven't been already.

PC NA right?
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>>146942138
>@clv is in the NA tesog guild
Ah, that guy just did some thing last night.
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Hello , if i want to buy TESO because it's on sale but don't want any DLC because it's expensive as shit. Will i have fun with no DLC ( it's not cosmetic dlc sadly) ?
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should i play this with a controller
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templar or sorcerer?
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>>146943648
Templar unless stamsorc
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>>146916523

I've seen these numbers but they're complete bullshit.

As long as you're above 10k you will be a credit to team in veteran dungeons.
I got the CoA Assassin achievement with 3 players; I did fuck all damage and so did the tank, and our DPS only got around 18k dps with buffs and debuffs.
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>>146943438
Yes. At least for the first 600 hours.
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>>146943481
I do and I haven't had trouble with it outside of a few PvP situations where I haven't been able to turn the camera quick enough.
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>>146943438
There is still plenty to do without DLC, so yes. If you'll like the game, you will have fun.

But the DLCs are fun too.

You can get ESO+ subscription, or buy a timecard for it, which will give you all the DLC for free along with other perks, for as long as ESO+ is active. It's cheap and good for checking what all DLCs has to offer before committing to full price purchase.

You also get "free" crowns by getting ESO+ which you can then use to permanently unlock any DLC
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>>146898262
>Looks gay as fuck on any male characters though.
I think it looks qt on my male Altmer.
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>10am BST
>people RPing in the Cloudy Dregs Inn
I ain't even wake enough for this shit
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>>146944635
>male Altmer likes looking gay
Wow, color nobody shocked.
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>>146944801
It looks more edgy than gay on him.
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>>146943412
what did i do this time
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>>146945170
Completed a dungeon or something.
I don't know exactly, some of the callouts I still don't know a damned about.
In short, you did something and everyone congratulated you.
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Are there any mods you guys suggest for a new player to ESO? I'm just picking up this game. I've grabbed a mod for Skyshards and books so far.
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>>146945335
master merchant

awesome guild store

lui extended/ ftc/ aui
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>>146945437
Sweet, thank you.
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>>146945624
Too add to what he said,

HarvestMap
CraftStore
RaidNotifier (if you want to raid ofc)
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Apparently ESO is £8 in Tesco, worth picking up and blasting through the quests as single player?

Enjoyed the other ESO games but not interested in MMO or any shit like that.
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>>146946016
eso is first and foremost an mmo
if you don't like mmos already i don't think eso will change that
though the story's pretty comfy
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>>146946016
That's like $20 isn't it?

At that price it's worth is just for the fucking nostalgia trip that is the Dunmer zones.
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>>146946141

Closer to $10 I think!

>>146946052

In fairness I have never played an MMO, but I like single player games. Never got into playing multilayer on-line or anything like that.

Fuck it, if the story is pretty comfy and I can go on a nostalgia trip I'm getting it.
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page 8 bump
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Anyone tried out the new dungeons on the pts? Found any bugs? Remember, they won't change anything unless you bitch about it.
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>>146947651
Correction, they won't change anything unless the post is 30 pages long with comments. There's been plenty of bug reports that didn't have enough replies so they just thought "Eh, its not that big of a deal lmao".
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>>146945847
Thanks, I'll also look into these. I'm not sure if I want to raid. I'm primarily playing to look into the Thieves Guild, provided I get ESOPlus. Thieves Guild is entirely what will sink me into this game or not.
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>>146947845
Couldn't agree more. I'm still baffled that dyed costumes is a thing because I couldn't for my life believe that there was anyone outside of a few people on the forums that wanted it but apparently enough bitching bring changes (especial if you can capitalize on it).
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>>146948224
No one even asked for the block indicator either. Yet they added it anyways and forced it onto every one. There was a 10 page thread on the PTS asking them NOT to add it onto live or at the very least make it optional. They ignored it and put it onto live. Thanks ZOS, because I don't know I'm holding onto the right mouse button unless there's a big fucking gross indicator on my character telling me.
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>>146948468

t. first person player
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>>146948539
You can still see it in 3rd person, and it looks just as bad.
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>>146948539
it's annoying in both 1st and 3rd person
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>>146926275
Use the Potion Maker addon. With it you search for possible potions by selected effects or ingredients. It will show when a possible potion/poison has a effect unknown to you so it's easy to just search with all ingredients and craft each potion/poison that has an unknown effect in the list.
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>>146948224
Bug fixes don't give us instant money, anon.

Unless...
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>>146932309
Look forward to meeting some people cross faction once One Tamriel releases.
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>>146948693
>>146948732
on the flipside you can animation cancel easier knowing the block indicator comes up.
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How do you get past these types of traps when doing heists? They're placed in hallways and you can't walk around them. The only way to get through is to trip them.
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>>146896709
But was it worse than Wildstar's launch?
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>>146949318
all traps can be disarmed, if you look at one of the spikes on that trap, a button prompt will appear
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>>146949381
oh neat, will try it out later. ty
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What weapon do stam DKs use for DPS?
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>>146949180
>wanting to hang out with any elf but dark elf
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>>146950000
2h/bow
dual wield/bow
more off-tanky 1h/s and 2h or bow
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>>146950220
better than be a fetcher for a slave
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>>146950326
Actually, would it be in my best interest as a tank to use my second skill bar dedicated to healing myself with a Resto staff?
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>>146946504
If you want a single player MMO you could try SWTOR if you like the KOTOR games. It's not very good though
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So will One Tamriel just drop the idea of all the factions being in a war, I honestly wouldn't mind if not for the level scaling which might be bad enough to force me to quit
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>Do the "save Abnur from Oblivion" quest.
>About to fuck up mannimarco during the stereotypical wizard duel
>Internet goes to shit
>Outside of Harborage after logging in again
>Have to repeat whole quest

Why?
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>>146950880
IIRC they said something like "the players can give the explanation they want, they just don't care anymore, thankfully.
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>>146950587
No, as a tank you'll want to take 1h/s on both bars, unless you are doing normal dungeons then you could probably run a dps bar on back. DK have enough buffs and self-heals to run tanking without a a restro.
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>>146950950
*...they want"
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>>146951154
Ok, thank you.
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>>146950880
>level scaling which might be bad enough to force me to quit

why is it bad, though?

I used to play SWTOR and they did level scaling too in their last DLC. A lot of players were upset about it, including me, but when they implemented it, it wasn't bad at all and almost everyone came around to the idea. Old zones were once again fun and relevant.
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>>146950880
> So will One Tamriel just drop the idea of all the factions being in a war
No, afaik they're just going to give you Cadwell's silver and gold right from the start.
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>5 rings in a row in vma

i don't think the 50% weapon drop rate was implemented, friends
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>>146950880
level scaling may make the game feel more like an elder scrolls game and less than a linear themepark
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>>146951465
How is it even going to work? Will everything just get scaled up to CP 160 like in dungeons?
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>>146952003
child porn is illegal
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>>146952003
They haven't gone into detail about it but most likely. I'm suspecting everything will be scaled up to v160 while they rename all "level 24 bandit" and "champion point 110 bandit" to just "bandit".
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>>146887387

Dungeon finder its broken, i did all my normal dungeons with that but now you only get a group if you are in luck.

If they fix it, its an awesome tool, but remember that as dps you will get more time on que, if you can tank or heal its going to be easier.

Join a guild, thats a good way to get people to do content with you .

And no, you will not lose any content because the dungeons scales to your lvl, you are gonna do all the dugeons sooner or later so do not dispair, i did all of then with the pledges at lvl 45
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>>146950880

Why is it bad though? It'll make the game feel like less of a themepark overall.

I usually don't like scaling in RPGs but in MMOs is makes far more sense. In the past, level based MMOs at least tried to make higher level zones feel like your character is higher level. Nowadays it just ends up being more of the same at higher level. It's always been retarded that a Clannfear you fight in Glenumbra would get raped by a Clannfear in say Bankorei and there's never even an explanation as to why this is the case. Similarly it's good that a guard in each zone feels around the same power level and so does say a bandit of some type. It's just bizarre that I can mow down a load of bandits in a zone that's 'on level' and then get my ass handed to me by a very similar looking bandit in a 'high level zone'.
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>>146952791
Thanks, good to hear. I guess I'll just keep dungeon finder turned on and get on with my questing.
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>>146953126
Lack of level scaling is a good thing but it has to be accompanied by good enemy designes. So that higher level mobs actually look higher level. Otherwise it's kinda pointless.
Although it's always fun to come back to some enemy that gave you trouble earlier and see how you mow them down now that you grew up.
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>>146953126
Because it doesn't feel like your character is improving at all.
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when does the no level req stuff come out? I want to play it then.
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>>146953142
Seeing how fan-fiction isn't canon, no.
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>>146953518
you still get new abilities, new passives, better weapons

in fact, by that logic, your character gets weaker as they level, because, for example, on average a level 10 enemy will be easier to kill for a level 10 player, than a level 50 enemy for a level 50 player
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>>146953518
Try do Fungal Groto solo on your level 20 guy and let me know how it went compared to your cp400 one. Since they're both scaled it shouldn't be any problem, right?
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>>146954136
Fall 2016.
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>>146950886
Such a powerful necromancer should have no problem with shutting down your internet. Let's be honest, he's too powerful for you to finish the quest.
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>>146918101
3000 unuffed is too low, should be at least 3600+ weapon damage
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>>146918101
> 3000 spell damage unbuffed
Literary how
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>>146955398

He meant spell damage. I don't think there's as many sources of spell damage as weapon damage.
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What's a good way of getting food to level cooking? Is there somewhere I should go to harvest it? I mainly need stuff for cooking quests and the vendor doesn't have those grapes + vendor food costs way too much.
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>>146956330
>Is there somewhere I should go to harvest it?

loot all containers in the world. Barrels, crates, sacks. 99% of the time it will have cooking shit in them
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>>146950880
No, it just lets you wander the provinces like any unaffiliated adventurer. It's basically putting you on the same level as your Fighters/Mage/etc. Guild buddies. It's not like Sees-All-Colors had to save the world to suddenly be in the Aldmeri Dominion's side of things despite being a lizard, after all.
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>>146918101
>>146955398
>>146955808
There's a huge difference between spell damage and weapon damage. Weapon damage is much easier to stack, but stamina is much harder, so generally stam builds have a lot of weapon damage (you should ideally be 3.5k - 4k fully buffed) but a mediocre amount of stam (30k - 35k is all you can expect to get). But magicka builds generally are great if you can just hit 2.8k - 3k buffed (3.5k+ with Kena), but you will want 40k - 45k magicka instead, because you have many more sources of percentage based magicka buffs.
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Can someone post the link with the new passives please? I would be really grateful.
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>>146957581
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/274961/pts-patch-notes-v2-5-0
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>these pauldrons
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>>146953518
>Because it doesn't feel like your character is improving at all.

Bullshit. Your character still improves in terms of their gear (especially set bonuses), skill points and eventually CP. How is this really any different to how enemies are 'leveled' to you under the current system?
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>>146958195
#quality
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>>146957920
I didn't like dark brotherhood and thieves guild dlcs and orsinium is eh for me because I am not much of a snow kind of guy.

Should I just blow my 1500 crowns on the upcoming dlc and ditch orsinium end game content altogether? There should be good end game gear from new dlc for all builds right?
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>>146958286
One of the things i like about ESO is that you can choose to do whatever the fuck you want without worries.
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>>146956039
>hundings and Julianos
>willpower and agility

yea there enough of it to go around, medium just provides that increase that's it
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>>146953518

you're a retard if you think having a changing number next to your name makes your character stronger.

As it is, as you go from area to area, the devs tune the mobs that are on your level to take roughly the same time to kill at level 50 as they do at level 1, in fact, time to kill may increase rather than decrease, because mob health scales faster than your damge does just from leveling.

What decreases time to kill is you getting more Champion points/perks, more skills, more passives, and better gear.

Not level.

Level is a treadmill that provides an illusion of progress, not actual progress.

It's to trick retarded niggers like you into thinking you're progressing, that's all.
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>>146957920
Much appreciated mate!
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>>146958532

right but if you max out on spell damage, self buffed you'll be about 2800-3000 spell damage, depending on whether you take apprentice mundus stone or thief for more spell crit.

Weapon damage you'll be a bit higher.
>>
Just bought it and installing it now.

For anons that have been playing for awhile, what is something you know now that you wish you knew when you first started playing?
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>>146958725
That the game is shit
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>>146958725
Level up crafting while you are questing.
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>>146958772
back to /v/ with you
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>>146958725
I wish I didn't try to rush to cap and tried enjoying low level gameplay instead.

>>146958772
Why bother posting in this thread then? I'd expect you to be long gone fuccboi.
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>>146958725
start researching equipment traits asap
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>>146958725

Focus your 3 equipment crafting professions on one character, even if it's a mule. I was dumb and had 1 character doing each craft initially till I realized that meant I needed 3 copies of each rare motif. Then I focused all my equipment crafting on one of my mains.

Also, ALWAYS be researching something. Never waste real time by not having something researching on every craft on your crafting character.
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>>146950834
Speak for yourself, I actually prefer SWTOR to ESO.
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>>146958725
Don't buy or repair anything, you find better gear as you advance.
Deconstruct or research everything.
Save for a horse (by stealing it takes 2 days)
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>>146959084
>research
I keep hearing this. What's this about?
>>
What's the point of fishing? All the fish you catch just turn to generic "Fish", which you can just loot rather than bothering with fishing anyway.
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>>146959325
Top right.
Get the Research Asisstant addon.
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>>146959325

to craft items with an inherent property on them, like increased armor, or increased effect from mundus stones (a permanent buff you have on your character), or reduced cost of sprinting/dodge rolling, etc, you have to have "learned" that trait by researching other gear that has that trait on it.

>>146959384

There's rare fish for every zone tied to achievements/dye unlocks, also, rarely when you process fish you can find "Perfect Roe" which is a cooking mat that's pretty valuable and used to make xp boost potions.
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>>146959553
>>146959742
This sounds like something I should've been doing all along. Fug.
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>>146959790

yes, you should, it takes literally months to research 9 traits on an item., and you need 9 traits researched to make some of the sets.
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>>146959790
yeep, specially because it takes a fucking long time, up to a month per final trait, and that's with all the pertaining perks.
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>>146959959
>>146959990
>worst part of eve is also in this game
REEEEEE
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>Shalidor placed an enchantment that can just whooptydoo bring him from "Aetherius"
What the fuck
ESO it doesn't have to be that hard, lore like this isn't even obscure, you can get the general cues from how spirits behave in TES games

In ESO every other important NPC is a ghost that can just nonchalantly travel from Dreamsleeve to fucking Mundus, it's so retarded that I expect actual resurrection to be shown in ESO at some point in future which will be a complete lore gangbang.
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>>146959006
how?
what are traits and how the fuck do I research them?
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>>146959084
H-how do you make 4500g a day from stealing?
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>>146960137
They just have to shoehorn every character you've ever heard of into the game, don't you know? Worst part is that this actually makes them all seem less relevant.

A "resurrected" Shalidor should bring all the mages from Tamriel to hear his lectures, not be reading cookbooks while the other mages in the room ignore him.
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>>146960338
First skillpoint in the fence-passive gives you 110 sell-slots. Sell some greens and blues, done.
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>>146960117
This game seems like a serious grindfest
>>
http://imgur.com/a/wTG8z
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>>146960338
Get the first perk form the legerdemain line to increase the fence limit per day to 110, find a spot with enough good containers (shelves, nightstands, trunks) and if it has a couple chests better, steal every "stealable" item, relog and repeat until you reach 110 items (or fill the inventory, so you already have items for the next day), fence them and you should have about 7k or more per day. Takes about half an hour if the spot is good enough.
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>>146960642
we're gonna have events now?
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>>146960745
>>146960549
Sounds lucrative. Everything reset when you relog, right? Got any tips for a good spot?
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>>146960642
what's this cringefest I'm looking at?
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>>146960835
Where are you?
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>>146960840
>Witches Festival
>Frostfall 13th
>Today is the 13th of Frostfall, known throughout Tamriel as the Witches' Festival when the forces of sorcery and religion clash. The Mages Guild gets most of the business since weapons and items are evaluated for their mystic potential free of charge and magic spells are one half their usual price. Demonologists, conjurors, lamias, warlocks, and thaumaturgists meet in the wilderness outside (the city), and the creatures created or summoned there may plague Tamriel for eons. Most wise men choose not to wander this night. In Daggerfall, this is the Summoning Day for Mephala.
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>>146960561

It's really not. Doing away with Vet levels has killed any sort of real grind. Getting to 160 CP isn't difficult either. Getting to 500 CP takes a bit of time but it's still not that bad and generally you'll be fine when you hit around 250 - 300 CP anyways.
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>>146960935
Aldmeri Dominion faction, Auridon.
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>>146960243
>have armor/weapon piece with trait in inventory
>go to the relevant crafting bench
>switch to the Research tab
>select trait, select item(this kills the item)
>wait for research
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>>146960978
>Demonologists
what's a demon?
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>>146960427
I know that feeling, it feels worse than when none of Skyrim properly reacted to Civil War going on.
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>>146961024
The bank is Vulkhel Guard is pretty good I think.
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>>146961046
This is from Daggerfall. Some things are retconned now.
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>>146960760
We've had events since release.
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>>146961024
That's the only faction I don't know about, check for guilds or easy to break in houses, where NPC's (if there's any) are easy to avoid, you only have to break in once a day, so it should be safe.

Items to steal are easy to spot, they're worth 40, 100, 250 and 1500g depending on rariy (white, green, blue and purple) and only appear in owned recipients, specially those I mentioned earlier.
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>>146961159
>>146961346
Thanks for the heads up.
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>>146960835
>>146960745
>>146960549
You can go full thief and max out legerdemain and do 140 safeboxes a day which will take you like 2+ hours but you can make like 35-50k
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>>146961328
>>146961328
What events have there been? I think I remember a Halloween themed event but wasn't it just crown store items?
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Where the fuck do you find ELDFYR in fucking Riften for the DB's Book of Faggots? I got everyone but him. I know it's him, I saw some guy kill him before i did and he turned to smoke. haven't found him since
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>>146960561
based on what? the fact that research takes long? It takes a lot of time, sure, but it's not really a grind. You put an item on research and then just forget about it until it's done. You don't have to actively do anything, just play and do whatever else
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>>146961046
>>146961225
No they are not.
Demon is a term that was used by fucking Alessia herself to refer to any evil Ada.
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>>146956330
You can find ingredients in guild stores for less than 5g each. Also tons of green recipes for less than 30g each. At least in PC EU. You only need maybe 3k gold to get provisioning to 50. The medium ingredients are the bottleneck for food crafting so search for any of those first and then buy whatever other ingredients you need for the recipes you have that uses the medium ingredients you bought.

Using the CookeryWiz addon makes this really easy since you can look up your recipes while browsing a guild store, buy ingredients and queue up foods for the ingredients you just bought. Then you can forget about it and go to the next guild store. Once you're done buying you just go to a cooking fire and cook the stuff you queued up.
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>>146958998
Jesus Christ those textures
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Two days in and I am already starting to feel the fatigue...mainly because most of the quests seem to be a complete fetchquestery, aesthetics especially the way armor looks really annoys me and players (at least at the time when I am playing) seem to be autistic not responding to shit and have names along the lines of Sakura Haruno.

Does it get better? Worst part is that obviously I can't refund it.
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>>146962340
>At least in PC EU
That's exactly where I happen to be. I guess I'll check guild stores then. I'm only level 15 even tho I've been playing for a bit now. Doing my crafting quests every day because it seems worth the effort.
Gotta say, enjoying the crafting system in this game.
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>>146962504
>have names along the lines of Sakura Haruno.
It was recently released in Japan so you'll probs see a lot of characters with names like that.

>Does it get better?
I've played for a year now and I'm still having fun.
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>>146962504
I've been playing for 45h now over a few days, leveled up 3 characters to 8 before deciding what to main, crafted, stole shit, got myself a mount, stole more shit, explored, did quests once in a while. I'm enjoying it and don't see myself stopping any time soon.
I can see how you could fatigue if you just rush and quest all day every day without doing any of the other stuff the game has to offer. I'd suggest to stop playing it like an MMO and play it more like you would a single player RPG.
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>>146961024
AD has the the place with the highest concentration of easily stealable containers as far as I know, which is the Rawl'kha inn second floor. You'll have to ride your horse a while to get there from Grahtwood but you only have to make the trip once, of course.
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>>146961567
Yea, that one and the anniversary when a famous cook came to the provinces and you helped him bake a cake. That's about it.
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>>146962504
>Two days in and I am already starting to feel the fatigue...mainly because most of the quests seem to be a complete fetchquestery, aesthetics especially the way armor looks really annoys me and players
Give it a few more days. If you still don't like it, it's not the game for you.
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So with the new update and being able to trade bind on pickup drops from dungeons, do you think most people will trade for free or be scum and charge 200k for it?
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>>146962738
I will be honest here, this purchase was a mistake since I was on a fence, played through beta and was one of the lorefags buttmad about ESO early on.
The types of MMO's that I like are something like Shroud of the Avatar or Ultima Online, better yet just online roleplaying games like Space Station 13 where sandbox qualities and player freedom are valued, but my friend told me that ESO is not a complete themepark and that it's getting better.

Honestly listening to him was probably a mistake because even though I've started with enthusiasm I am already starting to feel the fatigue, I don't want to play and constantly interrupt my playtime sessions because I feel bored with world interactions and quests at these levels.

I just want you to tell me if it becomes different at higher levels and if it does how so. My main complaints are uninspired fetch quests, contrived generic plots and weak player agency.
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>>146959384
Each fish has a - probably - 2% chance to give a Perfect Roe when you filet it. Only the white fish can be fileted, the green, blue and purple fish are just for the achivements and selling to vendors.
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>>146962426
If there was something higher than "high" then I would go for it
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Playing for the first time and stuck in character creation.

What is the best class for using a bow and does race have a huge impact on it?
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>>146962783
>I'd suggest to stop playing it like an MMO and play it more like you would a single player RPG.
The problem with that is that it doesn't seem to allow me to play it as a single player rpg. Theft and crime systems are extremely dumbed down from that of usual TES games and world interaction basically boils down to exploring different sights (which again you can't really interact with) or crafting, maybe visiting an in hopes of some casual rp to happen though player agency is so weak that you can't even sit down on the chairs.

Am I missing some crucial part of world interaction? I mean today I decided to just fuck it and go through as much of DC territory on foot as I could, but I can't say that I really enjoyed the exploration since it felt more like an MMO world as opposed to a singleplayer world.
>>146962929
I am going to, I am also thinking that maybe I should try other factions or something.

But again, fuck steam for no refunds after 2 hours.
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>>146963330
/sitchair
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>>146963628
Shiet, color me surprised.
Okay, I will look up some more emotes to interact with stuff and search for some roleplaying circumstances maybe.
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>>146963297
Choosing the most optimal race is only important for competing in trial leaderboards or PvP leaderboards. All PvE content can be completed with groups consisting of any race, class and role combo as long as you're doing a proper build for your role.
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>>146963297
Pretty sure every stam class in this meta uses a bow as a secondary weapon. Stam dks are looking really strong right now.

Races provide efficiency. If you want to play efficient and not have to work harder, choose races that have stamina passives such as redguard or khajiit. You can still choose a magicka race such as an altmer, but you'll just have to work harder.
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>>146963330
>I am going to, I am also thinking that maybe I should try other factions or something.

I personally think EP have the best start. Not everyone will survive and it will affect upcoming quests. And you even end up attending a burial if I'm not completely wrong. But if EP was where you started and you don't think it's worth it after a few hours then I don't think you will enjoy the rest of the game. Even if it's some really great quests up ahead it won't be worth spending an MMO-amount of hours on before playing. Even more so if you're not a fan of the combat.

I agree steam's refund system is shitty for MMO. The OP have that very picture to make sure people don't get it from steam.
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>>146962929

The games exploration is great and very Elderscrolls-y, but the quests... like other Elderscrolls are just bad.

If you're not in it to explore, you might as well bail out. I'm waiting for it to hit $15 to get into it after they did that free PC weekend.
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>>146964315
>I'm waiting for it to hit $15
Read. The. Fucking. OP.
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>>146964073
I started with DC but the quest that really made me mad was Mages Guild with Shalidor just coming back from "Aetherius" breaking the laws of spiritual travel and afterlife, then I noticed that literally every other quest had some ghost NPC as a major part of the quest and a lot of places and NPCs was just random (HEY REMEMBER THOSE FROM THE LORE)...then I started to contemplate quest structure and how it's extremely fetchy and yeah, I think I ruined it for myself.
Again I will try to play for a bit more and then change factions, hope it works out.

I will give ESO credits where it's due, it made me think about TES again even though I've tried to forget it until TES VI comes out.

Regardless if I quit ESO or not I will probably start a UESRPG tabletop campaign, make it a sandbox set somewhere in late third era, add some Magna-Ge shenanigans into the plot and make it as sandboxy as possible for players.
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>>146963770
Try the inns, specially Wayrest inn, on DC/EU/PC there is always people RPing, like at even at 10 in the fucking morning.
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>>146964405

Sorry, I did read the OP. I don't see anything there that is: Good Ol' Game, Origin, Uplay, Steam, or Amazon.

I don't trust third parties.
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>>146958725
Start training your SPEED at the stablemaster right away. Do not delay.
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>>146964442
That's it, I'm not going to help those who don't help themselves, fuck off.
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>>146964527

I'll fuck off when you do, asshole. <3
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>>146964315
>The games exploration is great and very Elderscrolls-y
I disagree, the world has constant quest instances and random respawning mobs everywhere, not to mention that it suffers from MMO gigantism.
> but the quests... like other Elderscrolls are just bad.
And again I disagree, the quests in TES are bad only when they are completely barebones fetch shit. As a faggot that has been into CRPGs since his childhood because his cousin forced him to play through Ultma 4 to 8, I can tell you that some of TES quests are some of the best quests in all of gaming player agency wise.
You will rarely find other games where you can find a quest mid happening or quests with player agency on par with the Who Dun It quest for Oblivion DB.

Players running around and killing bosses while you wait for the boss to respawn only detracts from the atmosphere.
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>>146964585
You'd actually do so, unless you were to make the next thread yourself.
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>>146964442
I just bought it from DLGamer for bout $15, no issues. Transaction took about 5 minutes. while you're waiting for everything to activate, make your account with ESO. Be prepared to wait for it to download, I had really slow speeds
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>>146964428
>Try the inns, specially Wayrest inn, on DC/EU/PC
Damn, now i wanna rush there on my horse even tho I've still got half the previous zone to finish.

>>146964424
>started to contemplate quest structure and how it's extremely fetchy and yeah, I think I ruined it for myself.
This. When you start doing then you'll notice that every MMO comes down to the same thing. You really should avoid doing that.
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>>146964664
>I disagree, the world has constant quest instances and random respawning mobs everywhere
This, exploration is garbage, and the extreme leveling makes it linear.
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As someone who hasn't reached champion status yet, my membership will be expiring in 2 days and I don't have the funds right now to renew it. I am left with 2700 crowns. What should I buy? I already have DB
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>>146964526
>speed
jej. Train carry weight.
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Currently leveling with a NB destro/resto staff swappin build, seems fine for now. Will this be viable end game? Kinda new so dunno if goin half dps and half heal is good or not for end game content.
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>>146964784
IC
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>>146964784
IC if you like PvP and 4-player dungeons, Orsinium if you like Orcs and want to play Elder Scrolls Travels: Orsinium
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>>146964829
go back to /tesg/ and take your waifu with you

but ok here is mine
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>>146964734
I don't RP myself but I go to in the inn once a day to cook food and they been there 8/10 times. I sure they'll be in some RP guild, like I've seen up to groups of 10 people once.
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How good is magplar for pvp? I don't mind healing but I would also like to do dps in some situations.
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>>146964734
>>146965157

There's a few sites and communities even if I have no knowledge about them outside of their existence
http://teso-rp.com
http://stormrp.enjin.com

>>146965217
They're the most annoying people in PvP, as soon as you think you got em they pop one of their healing spells.
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>>146964995
Nah, she's just a random NPC in some random village that I thought was particularly cute.
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>>146964798
lel
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Is there a way to swap quickslot bars and keep the same weapon or slot the same weapon on both bars? Do I need 2 sets of sword and shield if I wanna use both hotbars in combat?
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>>146964734
>When you start doing then you'll notice that every GAME comes down to the same thing

fixed it
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>>146963801
>>146963932
Another thing. Do I need to spend my attributes in both health and stamina, I'm wondering if I go full stamina I would be too squishy.
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>>146965719
while leveling, yes. endgame, you'll most likely will need to go full stamina, with glyphs compensating for a bit of health
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>>146965597
Nah, not really. There are few quests in free RPGs that are actually good.
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>>146965578
Yes, you need two of the same weapon to use the same weapon on both bars.
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>>146966268
And what do you do in those quests? Better not be any picking up items or walking places or killing something.
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>>146965719
All in stamina. Use at least max health food and preferably max health + max stamina food. Though while you don't have champion points yet, you'll be a little lacking in health so could put a couple points in health so you have 18k when you are scaled to cp160. Even less health is ok when you're confident in your red circle dodging ability in dungeons which, of course, you aren't while you're still leveling and doing dungeons for the first time.
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>>146966376
You seem to know what you're talking about so I'll go ahead and ask. I'm playing as a DK tank in dungeons, leveling with 2h stam build. When I'm scaled up in dungeons I get 20k HP, all my atribute points are in stamina so far. Should I be putting them in health more?
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>>146966572
Hello, first of all don'
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>>146966376
Thank you.

Last thing, with crafting can you only learn two like other MMOs or can I do them all?
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>>146966849
all of them
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>>146966849
You can do 'em all
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>>146966945
>>146966980
And learn them all fully? They all have skillpoints, is there enough for all of them?
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>>146967073
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Post your ideas.
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>>146967073
Well, technically. But you will only have enough points left over for a single build. So if you want both full crafting and build flexibility without respeccing all the time, that's going to be hard.

But if you have your build figured out and know you won't want to switch things up drastically, then it's possible to max all of the crafting passives fully.
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>>146953195

Yeah do that, maybe some day they fix the stupid thing.

Just keep lvling and when you get 45 you will start doing the pledges and geting all the dungeons.
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>>146966572
Yeah, you should a have more health than dps and healer as tank. 27k health seems to be the number considered as the standard for tanks. Some builds have more but that's for end-game. And as tank you should be using 1h + shield for the blocking passives and the blocking buff from having defensive posture slotted. You can have dps on your other skill-bar with 2h.
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>>146967234
Houses comes in 3 sizes. 500, 1000 and 1500 crowns. You have to finish the zones main story line in order to buy a house there, sort of how you got your house in Skyrim. ESO+ members will be able to rent a house for free but gets kicked out if they stop being subscribers.
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>>146967393
I'll start putting points in HP then, I'm only 15 so it's not that bad yet. Is it common for tanks to switch to a 2h and DPS on trash packs or something?

Also gear in this game looks great, even at low levels. Stole this nord set, enchanted and upgraded it with HP, feels good.
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>>146967760
>ESO+ members will be able to rent a house for free but gets kicked out if they stop being subscribers.

that's so perfect, I wouldn't be surprised if it would actually be implemented
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>>146966357
I think the idea of player agency is lost on you because you've never experienced it.
Imagine some NPC has to give you an item but before that you need to do a huge quest line for him... Now imagine that game trusts player with agency so much that you can just kill said NPC to get said item.
Hell imagine majority of game quests are like that and imagine that you can actually come up with unique solutions that were not scrip scripted into quest structure... Games like that exist, in fact they exist in TES series also.
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>>146886167
>http://www.dlgamer.us/download-the_elder_scrolls_online-pc_games-p-19435.html

It links to the UK website. Is it a universal code, or UK only? I'm in the US.
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Are NB healers viable? Any setups u guys suggest? Kinda struggling keeping people but i cant tell if people are just not blocking or standing in shit
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>>146968036
>need to do a huge quest line for him
>you can just kill said NPC to get said item

cool quest bro
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>>146967760
You got house in Skyrim by a quest, sometimes just for sale, by becoming a Thane or built your own.
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>>146968036
And yet fundamentally it remains the same as any other quest. That's the point.
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>>146968158
It's okay child, one day you will bother with older games and realize that hand holding is killing vidya.
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>>146967825
Tanks don't have much to do outside of taunting and blocking. As long as you're not getting killed and are doing your job properly you can do whatever. With veteran groups trash packs are just aoe-spammed in seconds so the tank hardly has anything to do so switching to dps makes sense. If your whole group is low level then even trash packs are a bit dangerous so you want to taunt them and block to reduce the damage your dps and healer are subjected to.
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>play tank
>literally out DPS a sorc and nightblade just shield bashing
>100+ CP below both of them
Will shitters ever step it up
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>>146968304
That's the point that a retard would make. You can break down all game elements like that, what makes quests special is how much each quest can branch out, how much agency they have and how good is the presentation of said quest.
Most of ESO quests are as barbone as possible, dry exposition at start, kill x mobs or collect y items to trigger a ghost that gives you a book, come back to the NPC. And while you can break down any gameplay feature line that, ESO is usually quite literally the description I gave and at best player agency boils down to choosing a or b without you actually being able to randomly change the course of the quest by killing some important NPC for example, or having the item before the quest started etc.
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>>146968323
>one day you will bother with older games

no I won't

suck my dick
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>>146964829
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>>146967760
>ESO+ members will be able to rent a house for free but gets kicked out if they stop being subscribers
Hello, Zenimax Online Studios representative here, we highly appreciate your talents in game design and would love to have you on board! We will contact you later to further discuss the contract.
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>>146968842
Your loss
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>>146968895

someone post pic with the 9 tied up bosmer girls
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>>146968895
>bondage lover
mah nigga
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>>146968763
>Most of ESO quests are as barbone as possible

anon, are you forgetting this is an mmo?
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>>146969030
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>>146969172
See, now that I keep repeating in my head that it's an MMO I start to hate the game more and the whole genre more for abandoning sandbox qualities and becoming theme park hug boxes.
I feel like I am heading on a perpetual path of hate and I shouldn't pay it for a bit and give it a chance again in few days.
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>>146969413
thanks

I could have sworn there were 9
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>>146964829
Love this random encounter. Someone put a little effort into the dialog.
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>>146969636
that's not a cute
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>>146969636
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>>146968051
Please respond.
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>>146969780
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>>146968051
>>146969875

change your shit to US
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>>146969780
why did you blur it? it can be read perfectly.

>>146969875
It should say it on the page itself, I don't think there's region restrictions at all.
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>>146958195
I really wish in addition to the 'hide helmet' option there was also a 'hide pauldrons'.
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>>146970962
"hide pants" is what's really important
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>>146969457
Not the guy you are responding to, but when i first bought eso i played 'til level 8 and got bored and stopped playing for a couple of months. Then i tought i'd give it another chance and here i am +180 hours in the game. I've played many of the mmos on the market and well only my opinion but this is the best mmo i've played. If you want a "sandbox" game the internet is full of them. If you want a mmo with imo the best RPG mechanics ESO is the way to go. You wont find a better "sanbox mmo" Eso is not a sanbox, at least for now. that is up-to-date. Do yourself a favor and ditch that /v/irgin mentality towards games. You'll be having much better time with any game.
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>>146969413
10/10 would rape top left
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>>146971319
I would agree if I wouldn't have had a ton of games under my backlog. I will not change my mentality that predates /v/ and as a person who's first interaction with gaming of any sort was ADnD with a Hardcore sandbox GM I will never value anything in games more than player agency because I feel that it's the strongest thing interactive mediums like vidya have.

But again, I will try ESO and give it all the chances.
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>>146971828
Under my belt*
Sorry for wonky text, I am mobile typing
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>>146971828
>I will never value anything in games more than player agency
>I will try ESO and give it all the chances

why? you're wasting your time. from what you previously wrote, ESO simply isn't the kind of game that appeals to you and yet you desperately try to like it. Just go play something that you actually like and stop fucking around here
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>>146972007
Because elder scrolls is literally my favorite setting, I grew up on it, Dagerfall was one of the games I first recall from my childhood. Despite having read fantasy of all sorts, be it Malazan or wheel of time and having interested my fair share of time in tabletop settings I will never love a setting more than I love TES.
I want to like, hell I am willing to force myself to like a game that lets me travel all around Tamriel.
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>>146972310
>force myself to like a game

good luck then
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>the lighting in this game

god damn son
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>>146962240
Near the lake, he was doing pushups near a fisher for me.
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>>146972310
ESO is not that deep. You'll have to make up your own stories.
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>THAT ONE FUCKING GUY WHO GRINDS RKIND AS A FUCKING WHOLE LAP AND FUCKING UP YOUR CIRCUIT
If anyone of you guys do this, fuck yourself, you fucking nooblet piece shit. It not that you end up taking my kills it that you such a fucking stupid shit that you can't even grind properly.
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>>146969065
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>>146969413
>that one girl in Greenshade you rescue who's been completely traumatized after being raped by orcs
Whoever it was that wrote all these quests in AD zones had good taste.
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>>146974974
not a fag, sorry
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>>146974974
>still has pants on

now what kind of vanilla bondage is this
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>>146975664
orgasm denial, chastity, tearing clothes apart...
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>>146975594
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>>146975570
rerollin to AD
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>>146975664
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>>146974974
>>146975570
>>146975929
>>146976151

Now this is a whole nother side of ESO I did not expect to see
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>>146976151
>GOODBYE
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>>146969065
>>146975664
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Do most people play in first person or third? I really like 1st for the immersion but 3rd is better for awareness.
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>>146977282
1st for looting shit in indoors 3rd for everything else
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>>146924391

All the new racial passive flavor additions are fucking great. I'm excited about the dungeons because more variety + I love Argonians
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Who else /argonian/ master race here? Our day has finally cum moist-brothers
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>>146977282
Both. Dungeons I tend to go 3rd because I'm a tank, questing sometimes I fool around in 1st for immersion, for stealing and such I also use 1st.

Speaking of tanking, just did this dungeon. I'm impressed, are most dungeons this fun? I expected low level dungeons to be shitty like in other MMOs.
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I like Argonians but these racial changes just fucks over my stam builds.
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>>146977713
Go back to the saltrice fields, you tree worshiping swampnigger.
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>>146969413
Some can be persuaded, with a little coin of course.
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>>146978192
I miss those random comments you'd overhear from NPCs in Morrowind.
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Are there any active console guilds for a sub 50 who'd like to run dungeons with chill people and occasionally shit up mic chat with lore if it's asked for?

I'd ask after when text chat is being added to console but desu joining a dungeon and hearing everyone's mic click on is soothing and reminds me of actual MMO community.
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>>146978483
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxJWDKwRa1Q
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>>146979093
I hope ZOS or Bethesda would hire this guy.
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The worst part about a new game is the download.
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>>146977883
The stories are pretty cool and continue in the veteran mode.

In low lvl they can be pretty hard too if no one in the group its a vet xD
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>>146979247
it's actually pretty shit. sounds like he's holding phelgm in his throat. I bet he coughs and can't do that voice anymore.
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I'm kinda new and aware that the answer to this is probably "git gud" but I fucked up like three of the optional steps on my dark brotherhood quest and was rewarded with shitty green "sithis equipment" urn rather than a named purple piece of the sithis touch set. I know the sithis set isn't great but I love the look and wanted to open it when I hit 50 anyway. But, I'd still like the whole set and to not have to upgrade it to purple due to my autism, which I hope you can do if it is. Do you get the whole set regardless?

TL;DR I can't into stealth and let down the speaker, will my box of shitty green sithis equipment turn into a chest piece I need to complete the set?

Did anyone else have a problem with these quests?
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>>146979835
got to add that the intonation was spot on though
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>>146979913
>Did anyone else have a problem with these quests?

no, because I'm magblade
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>>146979913
No, the content of the box is fixed before you open it.

Also yes, the quests are bullshit and stacked in favour of magicka nightblades.
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>>146979265
I just let it run overnight
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>>146979265
some people will wait 10 times more than you
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>>146979913
btw you get a new quest by the speaker every day so no worries you get new sithis gear all the time
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>be new
>want 42k for horsey
>dont know how dungeons work
>try to solo with pets but repair costs make it unfeasible
>have to just go around killing things and selling their shit for the last 20k that i need

I want to die.
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>>146978951
Which console? This is kibukj of the PS4 /tesog/ guild, we haven't done much together so far but I play pretty much every day. I don't use a mic unfortunately but I know at least one person from here that does, and you are welcome to join dungeon runs with me and non-vg friends who mostly use mics too.

Text chat is coming to consoles with the next update actually.
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tfw tank has warhorn
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>>146981227
>not stealing, deconstructing, vendoring and fencing loot
LUL
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>>146981227
There's a horse for 10k man.
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>>146981227
Don't bother repairing if you're new cause you'll out level your gear anyway

>paying 42k for a horse
Eh, we all need hobbies.
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>>146975570
Wood orcs and Iron orcs are brutal. The former with their whole raping shenanigans, and the other one for turning the trolls of Craglorn into man-eaters by feeding them nothing but kidnapped outsider.
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>>146981227
Just save up for the 10k one and buy the 42k at a later date.
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>>146981629
Do you just go around the city being criminal scum? Ive never stolen anything intentionally in this game yet

>>146981651
But its not the best pack horsey
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>>146981542
>tfw I turn up with my ult gen, warhorn spamming, debuff/buff DK tank
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>>146979835
What was the name of Morrowind dunmer voice actor?
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Have to buy more agility rings... do i just keep farming mats for tempers? I want to kill myself.
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>>146981886
>Do you just go around the city being criminal scum?
Pretty much. I've been doing it since the very beginning. There's silver chests around merchants that you can lockpick, they usually contain items worth anywhere from 40-250g that you can fence. Along with that you can go and just take everything off the armor/weapon racks, deconstruct and sell the mats.
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Is 64-bit version fixed`?
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>>146982179
Yes.
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>>146982179
I've been using it for a week with no problems.
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>>146981542
>>146981974
Casting warhorn and buff/debuffing is how you should tank once you feel comfortable in your role. I usual do it in pugs since I'm a healer but fuck me sideways if It don't make me smile when I encounter this kind of tanks.
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>>146982135
Shiiiit thank you. Thats great information
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>>146982282
thx
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>>146981886
>But its not the best pack horsey

they are all the same
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>>146982018
dunno
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>>146981492
PS4, and thank you for the reply. I'll send a message in a few hours when off of work if that's ok?
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>>146969413
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>>146977282

1st person with a controller for everything except group content. Group content I switch to 3rd person with M&K so I can git gud
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>>146983408
I'm not really all too into furries, but with these kinds of sexual undertones I'm down for whatever
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>buy game on sale for xbox a few months back
>play a ton, get a few chars leveled
>buy shit from crown store
>get gifted pc version during steam sale and link my account
>they port over my crowns balance but none of the shit I've bought, half of which isn't even in the store anymore

nice try zenimax
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>>146981886
> Not stealing everything not nailed to the ground in Morrowind as an Argonian
> Not stealing everything not nailed to the ground on Nirn as a Khajiit

I'm not saying you're playing the game wrong, I'm just saying you should consider the alternatives. A Khajiit god stole a walking city and a race of monkey-men so you've something to aim for.
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>>146982065
steal from inn 5-20 times per ring
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>>146983634
>playing the game
>feel like RPing
>look around for RP on NA
>nothing anywhere
>guilds are all a shit and aren't the sort I'm looking for
>EU has best RP and also has a sort of guild i'm looking for
>the guild has everything I wanted by. the. word
>switch to EU
>have to make new character
>have to do everything again
>nothing from crown store on this server
>nothing I bought is in my inventory minus Imperial edition shit

welp time to go back to NA and deal with their shit tier roleplay
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How is magic in ESO? I usually go Destruction/Conjuration in Oblivion/Skyrim so I wouldn't mind going it again.
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>tfw you will never visit an ashlander camp
>tfw you will never perform a feat of arm for the tribe and become clanfriend
>tfw you will never get invited to sit and dine with ashkhan
>tfw you will never fall in love with ashkhans sister
>tfw you will never make sweet forbidden love to your ashlander lover under moon and stars

man i wish i didn't feel these feels
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>>146983093
of course, I'll be on soon too so I can invite you to the guild.
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>>146983634
>>146984115
Have you tried to contact support
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>>146985350
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>>146984362
it won't be what you expect

schools aren't really seperated, other than destruction and restoration, which are seperated by staves.
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>>146986015
But I can reliably summons Daedra and stuff, right?
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>>146983760
Trinimac is gone you cuck, you are still worshiping malacath
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>>146986478
>>146986478
Sorcerers have a skill line called daedric summoning, it lets you summon a variety of daedra (scamp which can be morphed into stronger scamp or a clannfear and a winged twilight which can be morphed into a winged twilight with damage or healing focus) it also has one armor summoning skill which gives you bonus magicka and resistances and one damage shield which is OP in PvE and very useful in PvP.
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>>146986478
you can summon storm atronach (as an ultimate ability), familiar, clannfear and a winged twilight

clannfear/familiar and winged twilight can be active at the same time, permanently. storm atronach can be a 3rd summon, but it's temporary
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But really, does no one find it ironic that in 300 years Talos trio will fuck everything on this plane and that all of your achievements will be null? Hell Dominion will get conquered in an hour thanks to numidium.
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>>146987363
300 years is a long time
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>>146980154
>Them magblade feels

That said I think the DB content in general is retarded as it clearly favors one class. Same with the a lot of the TG shit. I'm just glad they're out the way now and casual faggots will stop pining for them.
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>>146983408
The cats seem to be in heat a lot.
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What is even the fucking point of playing PvP as a sorcerer this patch? Templars and DK simply won't die. "Oh so you think you killed me no worries I'm going to press X not to die and be back at full health again". The only ones I stand a chance against are Nightblades because they don't have the absurd amount of regeneration the other two classes have. I can't even resort to cheesy tactics such as just spamming overload with kena and overload, dk and templars both fucking heal and do more damage than me 1 vs 1.

Only advantage I have is being able to fuck off thanks to streak but hey we can't let you fuck off too easily.

Fuck this shit I'm levelling and Nightblade, at least I need to attack people of guard with that instead of this pure cancer that's templars and dk this patch.
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>>146989390
At least with next patch you can just swap to a stam race, if you can afford it -rubs hands-
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>>146989390
Next update you race change to a stamina race, and play a stamina sorc. That's what I'll be doing with mine. Fucked if I know how I'll be leveling my dw, 2h, s&b, bow in time for the patch tho.

Or just use it as a crafting alt like everyone else.
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>>146987363
I get feels when I consider that all the people and events are all ancient history by the time of TES2 Daggerfall and the later games. The faces of the people I interact with in TESO may be on faded paintings in attics in the time of Skyrim and their deeds the stuff of family lore. Perhaps a name becomes part of the land like Treva of Treva's farm.
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Skills I should use as a Stam DK tank? I'm lvl 17, so I don't have everything unlocked yet.
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>>146988536
How the fuck are you supposed to complete them perfectly without being that class? I remember during one part in the beginning of an early quest you had to break into the house and go in the cave, right? Almost fucking hurled my keyboard watching some bosmer :^) a button and stealth themselves completely, and apparently it was on such a short CD they could just spam it indefinitely. Meanwhile I've got enemies that sometimes follow the rules, sometimes don't and will see me from across the map and every objective takes an hour of crouching and inching
yes I am salt
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>>146988536
>>146990556
There's a reason ~90% of players play stealth archers in TES games.
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>>146990556
Like any other ability, the stealth ability is not on a cooldown, you can spam it until you run our of magicka.
Skyrim was widely criticized because a heavy armor knight with no magical or stealth ability could become the Archmage of the College of Winterhold, the Guildmaster of the Thieves guild.
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>>146985010
;-;
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>wood elf eating vegetables

filthy oathbreakers make me sick
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>>146991420
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>>146990556
I play a DK heavy armour tank, I just crafted myself a bunch of invisibility potions, 3-5 pots is worth it for doing a flawless heist and getting a 30k motif.
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What should I do with my skills while leveling? Do I want to spread out my bar usage among everything or just spam one tree at a time? I'm a DK if that means anything.
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>>146992053
Outrageous!
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>>146991420
If I remember correctly you get to kill that oathbreaker?
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>>146992947
keep at least one ability of each tree on your bars

your abilities level when you receive any exp, including turning in quests, so switch to appropriate bars before before completing them

I usually keep abilities that are essential for combat on my main bar, and miscellaneous abilities I want to level up, but don't necesseraly use, I keep on my secondary bar, which I switch to every time I turn in a quest
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>>146993489
Yea but you don't kill her because she's an oathbreaker but because she has a basement full of skeletons.
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>>146993471
but technically that's dead wood. it should be fine, shouldn't it?
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>>146993826
It's ded now anyway.
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>>146992947
It helps to have some sort of plan for your build so you'll know what you need to level. Between your class skills, weapon skills, guild skills, assault etc, there's a lot of options for what to put on your bar.
Consider using a gear/ability swapping addon and setting up a bar specifically for skills you want to level. Then switch to that bar when you turn in a quest.
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>>146993471
>literally filthy oathbreaker
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>>146993826
Bosmer import wood for their bows and staves.
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>>146994240
there was a quest in AD where some bosmer girl was dying and her husband was an alchemist who tried to cure her. During the quest you could read a diary or something where the girl talks about her husband collection dead plants and fallen leaves to create potions but they weren't very effective., like it was totally cool and not a problem.

actual spoiler - and then she hired a khajiit to cut down a sacred flower that the husband made a potion from, and that was a big no no for the green pact

that's why I assumed it would be cool to chop up fallen trees?
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>>146994878
I think the degree of how extreme they are varies from person to person. You know, like religion in real life. Skyrim had a Bosmer farmer.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Nimriel

And there's one quest where you stumble upon this text
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Why_We_Farm
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Fucking RREEEeeeee
>moved to new place, 50 times nicer than old place
>internet gets set up by some redguard 'technician'
>25 intelligence
>ran some tests said everything would work
2 hours later still no signal and had to chat with malcolm from the philipines only to have to wait for a real technician to come fix it tomorrow morning. Fuck everything
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>>146996135
>Moving to a new place myself
>Hoping I get a High Elf technician for Verizon Fios

Wish me luck n'wah
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Anyone in the /tesog/ guild can invite me? PC NA @abyssalwarder
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What is the best dps class atm?
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>>146996875
stamDK http://alcasthq.com/venom/
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Do prepayed cards work with the steam version of the game?
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>>146997643
You mean prepayed time and crowns? Yes, since you activate them trough your account on Elder Scrolls Online, not in steam.
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>>146997868
Yeah, I'm asking this because when I look at the product page in G2A, in this case, crowns, I see this warning.
I'm not sure why this would be the case though.
Would be nice to know from someone that has some experience with this.
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>>146998464
Sorry but I've never heard about anything like this, hopeful someone else in the thread have some experience.
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>>146998464
that seems weird. don't buy that shit
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>>146998464
Yeah, the not compatible with stream/console show on all of them, although not seen that 14 days shit before. I got my 2 months + crowns off kinguin, have had no trouble with it yet also it's almost up so I guess I'll be buying another one.
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>>146995705
Well in TES it's not quite like real life. Because in real life not following religion won't get your village endlessly swarmed by angry woodland creatures until you offer a motherfucking blood sacrifice.
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>>146994878
I recall some non-Bosmer NPC in AD talking about the business he had importing wood.
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>9 Hours remaining on fifth resto staff trait
Soon, I'll make the Magnus staff for level 30.
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How do the cash shop costumes work?
I'm subbing and I'll be playing through the DB and TG DLC, I'm a DK heavy armor user and it kills my immersion being stealthy in plate. Thinking of grabbing the stealthy rogue pack or pirate costume pack so I can RP.
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>>147001542
you activate them from a menu and they stay active until you deactivate them

disguises will override them, but other than that they will hide all armor pieces you equip
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>>147001834
Can you mix and match? Can I hide the helmet?
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Installing right now (PC), help with deciding class? Also does it matter which alliance I pick (is one of them completely dead or something)?
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>>147002057
>Can you mix and match?

no you will be able to dye them next update if you have ESO+

>Can I hide the helmet?

yes
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>>147002213
all of them are alive (DC is the best though), but choose which you like the most
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>>147002343
Cool, thanks.
I have ESO+, didn't even have to log out after buying it.
How do I put crafting mats in my crafting inventory ;_;
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>>147002213
>Also does it matter which alliance I pick

pick whichever you think you'll like

DC has the most RP by far
EP is the most populated, because skyrim
AD has the most interesting quests in my opinion
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>>147002057

you can't mix and match the costume is a complete coverup. You can hide the headpiece.

I like to wear the dark seducer costume without the headgear.
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>>147002641
>How do I put crafting mats in my crafting inventory


game should do that for you
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>>147002863
Might have to relog then, blast.

>>147002835
That actually looks nice. Is that a costume or a crafted armor set?
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>>147003141
>That actually looks nice. Is that a costume or a crafted armor set?

There are costumes that aren't available in the crown store, which are awarded by playing the game and reaching certain milestones.

That's one of them, and you'll get it once you reach CP60 I think
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>>147003431
>You can actually earn good looking costumes by PLAYING THE GAME
Colour me surprised.
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>>147003141

... I just said it's the dark seducer costume without the headgear.
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So with One Tamriel is Alliance only going to matter in Cyrodil?
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Where are people seeing the racial passive changes
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>>147004365

yes. I mean, technically you'll be thrown into the starting city of your chosen alliance, but you can then go to any of the other starting cities instead.

>>147004509

PTR forums.

Basically all Argonians except healers are mad, and everyone thinks Khajiit are OP (which they are, they were already kind of the best stam dps race in the game, and they got a buff.
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>>147004198

>Bosmer
>eating fruit
>in Valenwood

I didn't realize how ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWA this image was until just now.

wow really makes you think...
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>>147004198
I... didn't know... I'm new. Hello.
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>>147003708

There's actually a lot of those.

Black Hand Robes from completing the DB storyline (DLC but still earned through gameplay)
Cavalier of the Sworn Oath from completing the House of Orsimer Glories museum (Also DLC but earned in game)
Dark Seducer (used to be Veteran Rank 6 reward, now CP 60?)
Emperor's Regalia from becoming Emperor in Cyrodiil
Golden Saint from VR2/CP20?
Imperial Chancellor from VR16/CP160
Mannimarco's costume from VR10/CP100
Merchant Lord's Formal Regalia from the Thiever's Guild Questline
Old Orsinium Sentry from completing Orsinium museum
Regalia of the Orsimer King from Orsinium main questline
Shrouded Armor from DB questline
Thieves Guild Leathers just from joining the TG.
Trinimac's Penitent Knight from Orsinium museum

Then there's a few hats which can be worn with costumes or replace armor helmets::

Cadwell's Helm of Heroism from completing Cadwell's Gold (basically completing all 3 alliance's storylines)
Vosh Rakh Ceremonial Mask from Orsinium main questline

Then 2 skins (which alter your... skin, like your actual body skin) from a trial I think I haven't gotten either since I'm not in a raiding guild.
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>>147006060
Thanks for that list, good shit and I'd be asking about it sooner than later anyway.
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>>147003431
>CP60
Yes, cp60. I'm looking forward to that one. Currently wearing Golden Saint from cp20.
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Is it worth it trying to play this game alone? I'm not really an MMO guy but I wanna try this game out.
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>>147007816
It's alright, but with the activity finder being broken to shit right now, you're not going to be doing any dungeons.
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>>147007875
damn, can I at least get a decent start going and do dungeons with the NA clan? How active is it?
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>>147007875
Party/Dungeon finder was working last night with no problems.
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Would you be willing? Would you love Viveka 4ever?
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>>147008156
Could've fooled me with my 3 hours in queue with no estimated time.
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>>147009093
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>>147008018
I play mostly solo. The only content that I don't see a lot of are group dungeons. Most of the dungeons that are soloable and there are others that are public so there are always others around.
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What faction is the EU guild primarily?
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>>147011283
It's based in Daggerfall but the players are from all factions.
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You can share thieves guild heists with other people right? So you can do them multiple times a day?
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>>146886167
I've heard Nightblades can fill just about any role in end-game content (though they will lag as healers compared to templars).

So what's a good build for a tank nightblade?
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I think I made a mistake in going tank on my first character since i don't know any of the dungeons. Now I don't wanna queue up only to fuck my group over.
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>>146993825
To be fair, unless you get werewolf'd right out of Cold Harbor and only eat meat dishes, chances are any bosmer a player rolls is gonna violate the green pact.

Namely for not eating the corpses of their defeated foes.

>>147006060
>RP with a friend who has a CP 160 character
>We're doing the final main story quest
>Run into Mannimarco in Cold Harbor strapped to table
>We RP getting Mannimarco's outfit for them as their character stripping it off him while he's tied down as one last kick to his dick.
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>>147020308
If you're fairly low level, nobody is going to care. Every pug I've gone in with had at least one person who didn't have a fucking clue. It's part of the pug experience.
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>>147019960
sap essence + swallow soul + refreshing path + puncture

the other abilities are up to you discretion
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So in Bal's prison should I release any of the prisoners? If I can sacrifice one of them rather than a companion I'd like to.
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I'm pleased to see that an organized compendium of the books and notes found in the game has been created. I never have the time to read everything when I'm playing.

http://www.esohead.com/books
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>>147023564
Minor spoiler: At the end of the Mages Guild storyline you get an ability that retroactively lets you log every note in the game, not just the Mages Guild books.
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do we have some crafters in the guild?
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How's everyone tonight?


P.s. Obe and Geo I'm not kill, just moved today and Internet is fucked until tomorrow hopefully
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>>147023207
thank you. Have a flirty drug cat.
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>>147024413
shits good i got pizza
how u doin bb gurl?
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>>147024413
I am ok, ran lots of dungeons with friends, so just relaxing walking around and fishing too.

>>147024462
I see your drug cat and raise you comfy cats
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>>147024469
Anthunny plz. I mean I'm playing mount n blade before bed. Hopefully this tech guy tomorrow fixes Internet in like 10 minutes so I can play and lvl so obe doesn't catch up
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>>147024930
I see your comfy cats and raise you smug cats.
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>>147024413
feeling increasing hype for this game.

When my friend bought it for me, I was honestly skeptical, I bought into a lot of the /v/ hate.

But I found myself liking it, despite things, my characters feel genuinely powerful and like I've earned that power and can take on mobs almost like back in City of Heroes, the characters we've made and play are fun and most of them are new. (Admittedly, I play my Imperial Templar as basically Nick Valentine and my daedra possessed dunmer is based on an older character).

And the setting is beautiful, and the game's been getting better, from TOR, I also know what the Hero Engine really can do and feel this game's got a lot of potential and they're working on delivering it.
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>>147026492
That's good to hear! I finally got over my slump of rerolling and sticking to it. I'm level 33 and having a great time as well. Hope they keeep delivering great stuff
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>>146987826
It's one Mer lifetime. All of the actually powerful figures will still be alive because it is not too hard to become immortal with magic.
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>>147024413
Thinking of getting this game, since it's on sale.
I'm a big fan of TES games, not sure if it would lend itself well to be an MMO. I enjoy other MMOs though, but I'm hoping combat is a bit more interesting than point-and-click.
How's archery and spellcasting? Do you actually need to be able to aim?
I primarily play PvE in other MMOs, so that's the most important aspect for me.
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>>147027087
>Do you actually need to be able to aim?
No, it autoaims at your hilighted target.
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>>146987363
Faggotry time: my primary character accidentally burned part of the Elder Scrolls into his brain when trying to read them with a dwemer machine. Mostly this is just so he can make gag commentary about continuity errors or know that Mannimarco is against drug abuse. In this specific case, he's just more depressed knowing this war is going to go on THAT long and neither he nor any family he has will EVER live to see peace in Tamriel. Also knowing that that peace will be relatively short-lived.
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>>147024413
We'll do dungeons soon then.

I'll be on that CP grind and getting cash money. I'll buy that motif when I'm no longer a poorfag
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>>147027531
Word could use the cash for crafting. It's all urs pal. Also I'd be more secret about CP. I might have to alert the guards
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>>147023715
NA PC? What set do you need? I might be able to craft it.
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>>147027182
Bah. That sucks.
Is combat stale and shitty? For example, is being a stealth archer a viable build, sniping NPCs from outside of their sight range?
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>>147028896
>stealth archer
Are you in the correct general or baiting? There's no skyrim stealth sniper 1hko stuff. Each weapon has skills as well as each class has 3 skill lines unique to it. Go watch some vids if you're interested since this place moves slow.
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>>147028896
>Is combat stale and shitty?

it's miles better than anything skyrim or any other TES title had, with or without mods

>stealth archer
kek

no

but there is stealth and you can enter combat from stealth which will add bonuses to your attack. But you won't be 1shotting anything that's not grossly underleveled
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how far into the cycle is the mmo? seeing as its on sale is it worthwhile to get it or are the servers a ghost town?
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>>147029106
>>147029445
I figured mentioning the meme-est build of them all would prompt some responses. After all, it's a slow moving thread and pretty late.

I was checking out the combat, but most videos I have of it are old and a few mention a "combat overhaul," and I'm not sure how accurate they are anymore.
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>>147030324
megaservers, every zone is usually populated even on weekdays it'll eventually get bigger with some coming updates
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Does anybody here have experience playing a sword and board Templar? I kinda wanted to go for a tank-y heavy armor knight, but then I realized all of the Templar's abilities are magicka. It's not at all what the description promised.

Im a new player so I still dont really know what im doing, but I plan on getting into PvP and PvE with this character. I just wanted to know if it was an option while still remaining competitive.
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>>147032602
People call them STAMPLARS because they use skills from the weapon skill trees.
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>>147028896
Ignore those guys, there are one shot stealth bow builds (for pvp). Once you get in combat though you can't easily renter stealth again unless you kill your target, so if you fail it's like one shot every 20 secs.

I can casually one shot pve enemies from stealth because of the bonus damage you get from it, and this is just with normal stam gear.
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You can convert some Templar abilities to use Stamina, and all weapon skills except the staves use it as well.
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>>147033212
Can you convert the One Handed and Shield abilities to use Magicka?
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This broken activity finder is killing my fun. I'm a little burned out on questing and want to do some dungeon runs for those skill points and gear, but I can't ever get a group, and the active guild I'm in only ever seems to want to do trials or talk over each other. I hope to god this dlc patch fixes this shit.
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>>147033825

no, all weapon/armor abilities (except staves and light armor) are stam.
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>>147034161
if you're in na pc /tesog/ is here for you, friend
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>>147034496
NA PS4, otherwise I probably wouldn't be bitching haha. The guild I'm with are good people who've said any time I want to do dailies to just ask...but I can't ever get a word in edgewise, and they're always doing trials when I'm playing, like I mentioned. Trials are alright, but I feel useless being a newly minted 160 trying to get some decent gear to hold my own.
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>>147032602
Some of the most important Templar abilities have stamina morphs.
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>>147035476
a grand total of 2.
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Any PVP pros here can give me advice on a good gear setup for a werewolf?
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>>147038659
I don't think anyone really build around being a werewolf, like you'll still be playing your class most of the time. The only thing that people really change for being a werewolf is putting points into fire resistance in the champion points system to negate the fire damage taken bonus
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What time is the reset for everything?
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>>147039778
For pledges and writs and stuff like that? 4pm east coast Straya time, or 2 hours and 20 minutes ago.
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>>147039543

Not true. People do build around werewolf for certain builds with it effectively being a 'burst phase' tool for some more defensive builds. Setup depends on your class though.
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>>147033825

No you can't. Whilst I'm fine with it remaining the same, I do wish there there were melee weapons that scaled off of spell damage/magicka and staves that scaled off of weapon damage/stamina.
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>>147039543
Werewolf takes additional poison damage m8, it's vampire that can't handle the heat.
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>>146989390

Play a Stam Sorc.
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which addon do I use for bar presets?
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>>147043350
Dressing Room. Does both skills from both bars and clothes/weapons. Need to swap bars for it to do an unselected bar.
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>>147043779
thanks

it's outdated though. works fine I assume? no better recent alternatives?
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>>147043938
Causes no problems that I've seen
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>>147043938
Yep, still works fine. I tried two others to achieve the same thing: one required a second mod be installed and to record some macro or something, the other didn't understand the difference between your two bars, and let you overwrite your offbar with your mainbar's skills and vice versa. There may be a newer/better one, but Dressing Room did the trick for me so I stopped looking after finding it.
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>>147044047
>>147044239

how exactly am I supposed to set those skills? I tried clicking everything I could click, dragging skills from skill window to dressing room, checking addon settings and controls.

It's probably really obvious, but I have no idea
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>>147044709
Make a keybind to bring up the dressing room window, and one for each outfit you want
then it's something like shift click to save outfit/bars. The mouseover of some section of the dressing room ui tells you what to do
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>>147044804
>shift click to save outfit/bars

yeah that's what I tried but it wasn't working. relog fixed it though
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>>146924391
Can I get a link to that please?
My google-fu is failing me.
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>>147046506
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/274961/pts-patch-notes-v2-5-0/p1
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Level 18 and I'm gonna do the thieves guild quests DLC, good or bad idea? Doing DLC before max level in general, good or bad?
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>>147046759
Thanks!
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>>147046891

The only real downside to it is that the quests in the zone you are currently "supposed" to be questing in, will go grey and give shitty xp, and when you're 50, the Thieves Guild quests will give more xp than they will now, so overall the amount of xp you gain will be much lower, and it won't contribute to champion levels like it would at 50.
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>>147046891
It's meh. Everything is scaled but then again you don't get any top-tier armour so you're not really losing out on doing it before max level.

The only expections are from the White-Gold Tower and Imperial City Prison, those drop some loot the first time you complete it that I'd figure is worth a few thousand gold on the market if you.

Also this >>147047221
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I wanted to waste my whole day playing ESO and then I realized TSW's anniversary event was up :(
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>Playing in cyrodiil
>Guy in group won't shut the fuck up
>Doesn't have crown but keeps spouting shit out of his ass as if he knows anything and talks like a retard
>"I wanna see soldiers around the clock on the double!"
>"Dammit! They got more men! Retreat!"
>Talking as if he's some 10 year playing with army men
>He's level 18
>Crown isn't talking or saying anything
>Daggerfall covenant taking advantage of all the underage retards on right now
>Taking every fucking keep and scroll we have
>People just end up leaving the group because no one is leading
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>>147047221
>>147047293
I see, I guess that's a thing. I'm already overleveled for the zone I'm in since I do the daily dungeon, but want to complete 100% of the zone before moving on, because autism. I suppose I don't care too much about exp efficiency since it can eventually be grinded out in dungeons.
I'll keep that in mind tho, thanks.
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>>147047715

well, it can, but I don't like to waste level 50 quests or scalable quests below level 50 because I'm not capped on Champion Points yet. I'm only at about 290. Unless they're repeatable, then no loss.
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When will the year 584 of 2nd era starts? 2E 582 ended between imperial city DLC and Orsinium DLC.
Orsinium, TG and DB take place in 2E 583. My bet is 2E 584 starts with Shadow of the Hist or One Tamriel.
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>>147047482
Are you EP?
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>>147048590
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they don't start the new year before Vvardenfell (whenever we're gonna see that one).
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>>147049149
Yes
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Is there anyone here that could invite me to the EU PC guild? @SrsBznz
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>>147050409
What's the name of EU guild?
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>>146886167
>>147050409
While you do that, go ahead and invite me as well. @Thorzaim

Can't seem to whisper @the_kyrox
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>>147050702
TESOG

>>147050409
>>147050831
Please try sending a message instead of whispering, I'll invite you both.
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>>147049546
i assumed as much
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>>147051025
How's the guild? I might consider joining as well
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>>147051634
This, I'm considering but my guild slots are getting filled.
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>>147051634
6 peeps joined in the past 24 hours, we're thriving, THRIVING

>>147050831
message worked, I'll note that you need to message and not whisper in the next OP
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>>147051843
Whats the number of players that play daily? :^)
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>when you only have 10k gold left until you can buy the 42k horsey

Oh man oh man oh man
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>>147051972
They're all the same
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>>147051896
The hell if I know, there's 4/14 online right now, but I'm going to eat, I'll be online later if you make up your mind.
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>>147052070
Considering the MMO was dead on /vg/ for a very long while and just recently popped up again, I guess that's okay.
Hope it takes off, the game's actually kind of good.
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Hey guys,

Im feeling like playing a magicka assasin, with focus on critical strike and burst damage with dual wield on one of the bars.

Its this viable in any way? Should i pick sorc or nb? i found this buid some time ago and i dig the idea but now its not up to date:
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/169271/build-magicka-melee-nb-updated-the-14-07-2015

Can i get some tips here from fellows sorcs and blades?

Thank you
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I just joined last night and damn
>fighting skeleton
>no problems, it's not a hard enemy
>4 other random people run in, kill it and run away
>keeps happening
I'm sure it's not so bad away from the newbie areas but damn, isn't this kill stealing?
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>>147052365
pvp is fine to go a bursty build
things have too much health in pve though
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>>146998464
I consider myself experienced as I buy there game time very often. Don't buy crown packs but buy gametime instead. For example two months with 3k crowns is still cheaper than buying the crowns on it'S own. There you can activate as many keys as you want.
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>>147052064
They aren't.
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>>147047482
Irritating as fuck when shit like this happens

or when the crown is a low level retard who can't tell the difference between a rock and a leaf.

But then you sometimes get good Junior Crowns, who actually lead the group when the Crown dies or when the large group is assaulting two places at once. It can get breddy cool at times, and sometimes people want the J Crown to lead over the actual crown.
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>>147052742
yeah but not that it matters much, most xp youll get when leveling is gonna come from all the questing you can do
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>>147053479
Apart from the color they are.
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>>147053793
And description.
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>>146886167
how important are racial passives? by that I mean will people actively not select me for dungeons because I'm an Orc Templar Healer
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VVARDENFELL HYPE!! (again) I'm so hyped and I can't wait for quakecon 2016.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Vvardenfell_(Online)
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>>147052742
you get xp as long as you hit it, it doesn't matter who kills it
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>>147054648
not too important unless you want to minmax and shit but its your game have fun with it
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>>147054648
Important if you want to min/max and be efficient. If you don't role a class with the best race then don't worry, you'll just have to work a little harder.

If it's a pug that you join they wouldn't mind as long as you can heal them without them struggling like a bitch.
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>>147054864

correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the temple only allowed construction on Vvardenfell a few decades before Morrowind (the game)
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>>146959027
can you give gear you crafted on one character to others? I dont have the game yet, sorry if it's still a dumb question
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>>147055178
> Ashlanders
> Giving a fuck about the temple
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>>147055367
yep
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Are mounts slower than just straight up on-foot sprinting or does it feel that way because of the size?
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>>147055367

yes

If you haven't improved it, it's unbound, if you've improved it to green or higher quality it becomes bind on equip. Still tradeable until someone wears it. Now, binding in ESO is actually bind to account. So you can wear gear and pass it down to alts when you outgrow it if you want.

You can also do things like, craft gear on one character, and then improve it on a different character. Originally I was dumb and made 1 character that did blacksmithing and woodworking, and another character that did tailor and they were dedicated crafters. But after I realized I should have all my equipment crafting on 1 of my main characters, because #1, saves on motifs, and #2, some set items require me to be at least level 50 to reach the crafting stations (those in craglorn)

Now, I didn't want to delete those 2 other crafting characters, for one, they gave me more mats from hirelings, and #2... I had the points in tannin/temper/resin usage on them, but not in my main.

So I craft on my main, put the armor in the bank, swap to the mules, and then improve to purple (or gold if it's a CP160 set).

Eventually I'll put the points in the improvement passives on my main, but for now, this works well enough.
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i just bought this without thinking too much

is it actually good?
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>>147055389
well yeah ok but Ald-Ruhn is in the data files
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>>147055463
>>147055791
allright thanks
one more thing
>saves on motifs
are motifs comparable to runes in Guild Wars? I've been researching this game for the last few days because I dont want to be let down again by an mmo, and the crafting system in eso is pretty convincing, if motifs are what I think they are it would be a big plus
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>>147056045
It could be that the city in Morrowind was built on top of a place where Ashlanders used to live, and in ESO it's just a gatheringplace for elders (seeing how Ald-Ruhn means "elder home"). As someone else said I hope we get to learn more at Quakecon.
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>>147056314
They are basically armor styles you can collect to make your armor look better.
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>>147056314
Motifs are different cosmetic styles for crafted equipment, choosable when you craft them. You start out with one motif which is your character's racial motif. Learned motifs (and researched traits) are character-specific so you want to focus all three equipment crafting professions on one character.
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>>147056314
Don't know, but here motifs work so that once you learn a motif you can craft that style, as long as you have the style material.

So say you're a dunmer. You know how to make dunmer-style swords and so on, and for each piece you craft you need some obsidian since it's your style material. If you stumble upon an argonian motif you will be able to make argonian style swords, if you also have some flint.

More rare motifs come in pieces. So you will be gathering the heads, the shoulders, daggers and so on each by themselves. And a lot of the rare motifs have more expensive and rare styling materials.
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>>147055389
Or House Telvanni for that matter.
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>>147057064
they don't build anything, they grow their buildings
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>>147052365
Magblade with dual wield is viable. There are spell damage swords, I don't remember their names at the moment. Plus last dual wield passive raises your overall damage if you wield dw swords so thats gud too. You can dps with sorc but magblade is way easier and fun in my opinion.
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>>147056314

no motifs are the cosmetic style of the armor, what it looks like when you wear it.

Basically when you craft something, you go to the station that crafts the item type you want (IE you go to a tailor workbench to craft light or medium armor), select the slot you're going to craft for (say medium chest piece), select the material you want to make it out of and how many raw materials you're going to use, which affects the level of the gear. IE tier 1 materials is level 1-14, tier 2, 16-24, tier 3 26-34, tier 4 36-44, tier 5 46-50, then tiers 6-10 are dependent on champion points. Within a tier, you can increase how much of the material you use to craft within a range of levels. Like for a level 16 item you might use 9 hide, but for a level 20 item you use 11, and for a level 24 item you use 13. Then there's style, which is the visual look of the item. Styles are unlocked by reading motifs. By default you'll already know your race's motif. But you can find motifs in containers or buy them from guild stores that let you learn other race's styles. You need style stones to use as a resource to craft. Then you select a trait which is an inherent property the armor has, those are researched from gear that has traits on it, and they require trait stones to craft.

AFTER ALL THAT basic stuff, there's the additional customization of crafting at special crafting stations that are scattered around the world that let you craft sets. Crafting sets has varying requirements for how many traits you need researched to craft an item for that set. Some sets require 2 traits, researched, some require up to all 9. It's by piece. So like, if I have 9 traits researched on light shoes, I can craft twice born star shoes... but if I only have 7 traits on light chest, I can't make the chest of that set, even though I can make the shoes for it. Sets have set bonuses depending on how many pieces you wear of that set.

Finally, there's enchants
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>>147055178
According to UESP, Vvardenfell had small great house settlements (I assume, Balmora, Ald Ruhn, Suran, Tel Arhun, Tel Mora etc.) but no large scale settlement outside that. In ESO's time frame, I'd guess those settlements would be small-ish, smaller than in Morrowind, and with no settlements outside them (and hopefully, no wayshrines outside of them either), just Ashlanders and assorted bandits and cultists inhabiting the wilderness and Daedric ruins and whatnot.
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>>147057214

Enchants are another effect you can put onto gear once it's already been crafted. Enchants can be replaced if you have a new glyph you'd like to apply. Weapon enchants have limited charges but can be recharged with soul gems, armor and jewelry enchants are permanent.

Basically there's several levels of customization going on.
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>>147055178
I remember that the temple only reorganized Vvardenfell a few decades before TES 3. Before reorganization Vvardenfell was backwoods area are full of ashlanders (and a couple old great houses?) and it was undeveloped compared to 3E 427. And Vvardenfell was highly populated before the war of the first council (which was over thousand years before TESO).
At least Vivec, Balmora and all daedric shrines were build in the first Era. Ald'ruhn and Sadrith Mora might have been around since 1st Era. Not sure about Seyda Neen. At least Castle Ebonheart isn't in the data mined locations :D
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Wait, is there NO unarmed or am I missing it?
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>>147057560
It would be cool if there are silt striders and boats instead of wayshrines.
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player housing when
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>>147058284
Q1-2 2017
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>>147058167
That would be the fucking dream.

ZOS pls.
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>>147058167
That would be the fucking dream. The only wayshrine should be in Vivec.

ZOS pls.
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r8 my Breton Sorc

Bought this costume with the free 500 crowns I got for buying the base game.
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>>147058589
Would hug then wildly fuck her from behind and using her tits as handles. Looks good.
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>>147057214
>>147057670
>>147056314

Oh, and as for the GW2 runes thing..

GW2 runes are like, a combination of enchants, and set crafting.. Because you can swap runes on a piece of gear like you can swap enchanting glyphs (the rune/glyph is just consumed in the process), and in GW2, all armor runes are in a set, so the more of them you wear the more bonuses you get of the set.

Traits are kind of like the prefixes on GW2 gear. Like Berserker's and the like.
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AYYY it's ya boi. After that redguard fucked my internet installation I got on the phone with some poor akaviri and he hooked me up with a breton today who came and fixed my shit and improved my line's capacity so I can get better internet down the road. Feelsgoodman.jpg back to lvling this based fucking magicka dk
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>>147058589
>Tattoos

HARLOT
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Where can one find the fucking rad looking Arab scarf thing? I really want one, now that I'm in the Alik'r desert.
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Anyone seen any viable NB pvp leech / sustain build? Preferaby in heavy armor. I've been trying to come up with my own, but I really need some external input.
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>>147023687
>not choosing the 3 free skill points

gg
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>>147060132
he'll regret that at some point
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>>147060132
>>147060254
You don't need those skillpoints
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>>147060132
You always get the ability, even if you sell her Soul for 2 skillpoints.
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>>147060365
You don't need them, but you want them
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>>147060465
Why?
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>>147060132
I regret not taking the skill points.
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when is the one tamriel coming out
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>>147064256
Q4 2016
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>>147064256
Q4, this year.
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>>147064975
>>147064640
Confirmed, expected or best case scenario?
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>>147065075
Confirmed
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>>147064640
>>147064975
>tfw only Q2
>up to 6 months of waiting for One Tamriel to be able to roam at will and not worry about outleveling friends
>mfw
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>9k respec cost
Kill me.
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This game is so much fun that it's ruining my life.
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>>147065984
lmao how many skill points do you have?
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>>147067553
it's 50 per point, isn't it? so about 180
Been raising all the weapon skills and class skills while questing, so seem to have spent lots, but still buggered if I know where 180 went.
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>>147067890
>>147067553
>>147065984
>mfw 280 skill points
>14k respec
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>>147068010
Any decisions you make are pretty much final until next xpac m8
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I'm looking at buying this game. Huge fan of Morrowind and Daggerfall. I'm not so much a fan of Skyrim or Oblivion.

I'm not expecting the same game play experience. As someone who used to play SWG a lot will I enjoy this game? Are dedicated crafters viable?

I liked to stay in character in SWG, is roleplaying generally frowned upon on NA server?
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>>147064640
>>147064975

goddamn that's so far away.

oh well.
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>>147068010
>>147065984
>2 days of thieving
Oh, how much...
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>my face when I pull of the perfect heist
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>>147068090
Meh, I can make 100k+ a day if I really I tried but yeah I don't want be fruitlessly splashing it away when I've got 70k+ rings to buy and truck loads of alloys.

>>147068567
You can get like 40k+ in 2 hours thieving, if you can be arsed.
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Where should I go as AD to level after Shadowfen? I'm level 31
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>>147068207
Gonna be honest and say i havent played SWG, or many other MMOs for that matter.

Im not sure how roleplaying is seen on NA but I have not really seen much, at least in the global chat. I mean im sure you can find a guild or people who do though.
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>>147068779
By only picking blues or higher??
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>>147068207
As someone who used to play SWG a lot will I enjoy this game?
>I don't know
Are dedicated crafters viable?
>YES! If you craft armors and weapons.
I liked to stay in character in SWG, is roleplaying generally frowned upon on NA server?
>TESO is really geared towards roleplaying, so no. I heard there is less roleplay on NA servers compared to EU. I can go to local tavern and start roleplaying with others in EU. People from NA could answer to this better.
>>
Steam reports around 5k playing this game at any time. Is that a remotely accurate pop count?
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>>147069409
>Is that a remotely accurate pop count?
no

most people don't play through steam
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>>147069409
lol no I doubt anyone in this thread plays it through steam
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>>147068852
>safeboxes
>max locksmith (force lock speedrun)
>max trafficker (140 sell per day)
>max TG skill haggling (10%+ price)
Safeboxes can give you 1-2 green, 1-2 blues, green and a blue or a purple, also they give you straight gold which adds up to a nice bit, which you can be increased by 50% if put 10 champion points into the shadow tree.
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>>147069574
This. I got 32 (out of 60) friends online and they all have Steam but they haven't bought TESO from Steam.
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>>147069625
fucking locked content, fuck you once again ZoS
>>
>>147069409
>>147069501
>>147070021
Why's that? Is something wrong with the steam version?
>>
>>147070056
yeah, man you should probably quit while you are ahead, game is p2w as fuck that 10%+ prices on 140 stolen items a day is fucking OP. Honestly idk wtf zeni are doing they should just give subs 100k gold everyday at this point.
>>
>>146886167
>>147070272
Sorry OP, you failed.
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>>147070473
Link in the OP says $16.99 for the authorized reseller standard edition. I'd gladly pay an extra $3 to steam to keep my game library consolidated.
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>>147070698
That's retarted. Besides many people have had problems with the launcher when playing trough steam.
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>>147070396
It just keeps adding up.
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>>147070816
>retarted
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>>147070698
hey! knock knock
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>>147070963
exactly my point
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>>147071020
So...your point was that you don't know how to spell, and I probably shouldn't take you seriously? Alright, whatever you say.
>>147070998
Who's there?
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>>146886167
>just bought it on steam and I'm halfway through downloading it
this is taking

F O R E V E R
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>>147071161
fuck off somewhere else
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>>147071283
Refund and buy it off somewhere else
>>
>>147070698
>>147070272
>>147071283
Jesus Christ, why do I even bother...
>>
Hey, I used to play this, and saw that the DB finally came out. It mentioned that you can get bounty quests. Is it possible to get a bounty on an another player through this system?

Because if so, I would resub in a heartbeat.
>>
>>147057183

nice, im still dont know how to build it yet but i guess im going to try.

Any tip?
>>
>>147070698
You can add nonsteam games to steam's library.
>>
>>147070272
steam version is simply known to have issues. Not for everyone apparently, but there are significant amount of complaints from steam users.

Couple that with the fact that you can get non-steam version for a fraction of the price all year round.
>>
>>147072498
>Any tip?

Since you're leveling, don't worry about the build, since you can't actually make one on a low level character. Level all skills, try them all out, and by lvl 50 you will have a pretty clear picture.
>>
>>147072486
If you bought the game, you shouldn't have to resub. You should be able to test it out for yourself, with your old account. If you want to then support the game devs with ESO+, that's on you, but you can go in informed. No need to resub just to check out the content.
>>
>>147072825
Okay, but are there player bounties? I'm not even going to bother reinstalling if the answer is no.
>>
>>147073425
no
>>
>>147073476
Lame. Carebears ruin yet another good thing. Back to guild wars 2.
>>
>>147070272
>>147072621
If you get it from steam, can't you just install it through the normal installer anyway?

http://elderscrolls-a.akamaihd.net/products/BNA_Launcher/Install_ESO.exe
http://elderscrolls-a.akamaihd.net/products/BNA_Launcher/Install_ESO.zip

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/4piook/psa_eso_only_1999_during_steam_summer_sale_but/

Tho how you get the key out of steam I'm not clear on. I guess you have to make an account with beth anyway to play, so they give it somehow?
>>
>>147074163
>Hi. So I bought ESOTU on the steam summer sale and used someone's tip of initalizing the download, right clicking and getting the CD key, and putting it into the ESO website to skip all the unnecessary steam downloading. I just downloaded the launcher and whatnot from the website. I now want to buy crowns and it redirects me to steam. If I buy the crowns from steam, will they be on my account or do I have to download and play from the steam client?
>>
>>147074289
kek
>>
>>147074289
Answer from that thread was yes, they will be on the account.
>>
>>147071762
Why?
>>
>>147077029
It's a fucking meme at this point, Steam's fine.
>>
>>147077187
Do you play on steam?

I'm scared I'm going to regret buying it now.
>>
how is magicka dk dd for pvp?
>>
>>147077378
Hello anon, I play on steam. Bought it there, downloaded it there, updated it through the launcher. I registered a new account and subbed through the website yesterday. Everything works, I'm having no issues. Been playing for over a week now.
Also I should probably join the EU guild, what level are people? I don't wanna feel out of place at 18.
>>
>>147077378
Not him but my best friend bought it on Steam and he's been playing it just fine this past week. He hasnt mentioned running into any problems although I havent asked about it either. Also got 2 other friends buying on Steam as well soon.
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>>147078479
I'm from Britain, can I join the EU guild y/n ?
>>
>>147078634
No because you arent in EU anymore
>>
>>147078634
You may join, Mr. Farage
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>>147078634
No
>>
Which is the most flexible race?

By that I mean which race, if any, can switch between stamina and magicka builds while still having decent passives for both?
>>
>>147079452
>Which is the most flexible race?

Bosmer

>By that I mean which race, if any, can switch between stamina and magicka builds while still having decent passives for both?

Dunmer
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My boys geo and obe I have to fucking close at work so I'll be on around like 11:30/11:45 EST tonight
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>>147078479
>Also I should probably join the EU guild, what level are people? I don't wanna feel out of place at 18.

You'll feel right at home. This is what the PC EU guild is made up of. Thankfully I haven't came across a single meme-lord yet.
>>
Any tips or advice for a new player?
>>
>>147082240
Start researching stuff right away. Even if you don't plan to be a crafter, the day you decide to craft, you will have wished that you had done it.

Don't split up crafting between your characters, have them on one (this is due to how motif works). There's more than 300 skillpoints in the game so there is more than enough to have your only character to also be a full-time crafter, even if it's harder in the beginning.

Join the TESOG guild and ask question there as you go along. No meme's allowed.

Do whatever the fuck you want. The main quest, mages guild and fighters guild storylines are scaled to your level so you can just ignore them.

When you do a dungeon, let other people know you're doing it for the first time. That way they won't flame you for fuck-ups but may instead teach you it. No one will ever kick you for never done a dungeon before.
>>
>>147082240
Check replies to >>146958725

Also, we could do with a FAQ.
>>
>>147078723
Juncker go home.
>>
>>146966572
>>146967825

put all your point in stamina, dont waste on health.

get your armor with hp enchant instead, get reinforced on chest, pants and shield at least.

use spikes and shuffle to get armor and dodge.

as a tank you have to get the agro on the bosses (ofc) and with trash you have to try to cc them so they dont kill your healer.
>>
> I erect the spine of gratitude
wut
>>
>>147086607

I erect a spine of welcome
>>
>>147086607
What?
He is gratious, therefore the spine must be erected.

Is there a problem?
>>
>>147086607
What's the problem, dryskin?
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>blade of woe kill animations are restricted by character height
>bosmer girl is so short that only 4 animations ever play
>one of those animations plays 90% of the time
>tall ass altmer has at least 8 different kill animations
>all play more or less equally often

zos, why

why do you hate the midget?
>>
>>147086860
>>147086870
>>147087052

S-sorry if I'm not well-versed in Argonian idoms. What's this whole "I erect the spine of" thing about?
>>
I need a small loan of a million gold
>>
>>147088605
I don't know graphical technology isn't there so we don't see any spines being erected so it might be metaphorical or they might give their spines names and erect them as a show of emotion since they can't show emotion with their faces being a lizard and all.

Maybe the third spine on their back is the spine of gratitude.
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>>146985350
>>146985582
It took 24 hours for support to get back to me and tell me that it's somehow literally impossible to copy or move crown store purchases from one server to another.

Instead of jew enabling zenimax and buying all of the races and shit that I've already paid for, I'm just gonna preorder Legion and play something else
>>
>>147089761
ok
>>
Some brother of a friend of me just told me that ESO isn't a good MMO, that I have no idea, that CSGO and LoL are way better MMOs.

Hold me, /tesog/
>>
>>147091683
Every friend on my steam friend list told me to not get ESO and that it's a shitty MMO. I'm glad I didn't listen to any of them.
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>>147091683
>CSGO
>LoL
Why is he still your friend?
>>
>>147091683
> CSGO and LoL are way better MMOs
So are kids just calling any multiplayergame MMO these days?
> Sweet! Battlefield 1, Overwatch and the new Call of Duty! It truly is the golden age for MMO games!
> Hey dad, I heard you used to go to LAN parties when you were a teenager. Tell me, what was it like to play MMO without using the internet?
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>>147092873
>>147092873
>>147092873
>>147092873
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>Want to buy ESO sub
>Go to account login page
>Have to enter security code to log in
>Check email
>Get code
>"This code is invalid"
>Resend email
>Try different code
>"This code is invalid"
>Triple check everything
>No copy and paste
>Manually enter brand new code
>"This code is invalid"

Well fuck...guess I won't be buying a sub anytime soon.
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