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Dueling Network General - /dng/

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Dueling Network General #2216
Last thread: >>146480246

Dueling Network (High Res): http://www.duelingnetwork.com/?card_image_base=http://www.xtevenschannel.com/images/card-pics/
YGOPro: http://www.ygopro.co/download.aspx
http://www.ygopro.co/Forum/tabid/95/g/posts/m/149030/find/unread/The-Ultimate-HQ-Card-Project <- High-res YGOPro pics.

● DN is a browser-based, manual Flash simulator.
● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
Both are free to play.

Useful Links:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page (Wiki with a wealth of information for players, new and old)
http://yugiohprices.com/ (Comprehensive Yu-Gi_Oh! stock market)
http://ygodr.blog.jp/ (OCG decklists)
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists (TCG decklists)
https://ygorganization.com/ - http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/ (TCG/OCG news sites)
http://yugioh.party/ (Hypergeometric/Probability calculator)

The Official /dng/ ruling test can be found here:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Invasion of Venom (July 9th)
●OCG: 20th Rival Collection (July 21st)
●OCG: Booster SP: Destiny Soldiers (August 6th)
●OCG: Extra Pack 2016 (September 10, 2016)

●TCG: Rise of the True Dragons Structure Deck (July 8th)
●TCG: Dark Side of Dimensions Movie Pack (July 22nd)
●TCG: The Dark Illusion (August 5th)
●TCG: Dragons of Legend: Unleashed (August 19th)

BEFORE asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● Read the cards.
● Lurk and read the archives.
● Always try to keep your deck as close to 40 cards as possible to increase chances of drawing the cards you need.
● Read the cards please.
● Google your Deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event.
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play.
● Remember to playtest and try suggestions before you trash them, even if someone recommends a weird tech choice. You don't know everything.
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First for angering those who hate waifus.
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>dm will never be tier 1
just
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What's the worst card ever printed?
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>>146588993
Larvae Moth.

Silent Paladin is a close second.
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Who is the best player here and why is it Raita?
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>>146589038
Why was Sowrdsman and Magicians daughter so fucking shit? I bet they're both ashamed
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>>146588125
Never got to own one of these, are they as shitty as they look?
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http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1058740927.html
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>>146589161
Raita is the best player we have
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>>146589470
Already got all the ABC tops covered my famalam. That being said I might (might) continue if I stay bored so there's that
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>>146589375
yup, you couldn't even fit a 40 card deck with sleeves, ha to use them sleeveless
still felt like a fucking god around the neighborhood tho
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>>146589734
>no pseudo space
Is it tcg only? Is it actually bad? I can't imagine overlords haven't figured it out.
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>2nd turn
>Red-Eyes Darkness Metal, Flare Metal, Normal Summoned Meteor/Archfiend on the field
>Solemn Strike set

Feels good.
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>>146591026
torque doesnt exist yet, no point in running that combo in tournaments.
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>>146588125
I have faith in Legacy Support Round 2. They made Red-Eyes better so there's a good chance with DM.
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Fuck me for playing pussy cards like Solemn Strike.
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>Try to log onto DN
>You are banned!
>What the fuck, I haven't done anything to piss off the trigger finger madmins
>Try to go on Forums to appeal it
>Banned from forums
The fuck?
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>>146592640
its a dead platform anyway
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>>146592635
I thought ygopro have the option to mute the opponent
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>typical of cowards...
First time testing Red-Eyes and I get this. His own fault for wasting Yazi's effect on Meteor who would just float (and he used the new YZ trap on it when it did.), instead of my level 4 since he already knows I run the Level 4 Red-Eyes for R4.
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>>146588104
Who /ocg/ here?

I need a translation of this.
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how do Destiny HEROes work with the new support? anyone have a decklist?
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>>146593029
You can, but then you miss out on all that salt and butthurt.
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Can someone give me a Red-Eyes decklist with the new Meteor Dragon retrain?
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>>146594082
Lithium2300 had a video of them and says they aren't that good. The deck is still maskchangedarklaw.dek
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>>146594256
Kek usually I'm the salty one
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>>146587960
>Effect monsters never have story card text
>You will never know your Cardfus interest and hobbies
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>>146594532
Just make sure you're way over the top so it's entertaining.
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>>146589174
>yfw Silent Paladin was actually their mother
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>>146594680
One Entame coming right up
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>>146594082
Lavalval Chain is dead and ROTA is limited, you're not having any Dark Grepher Mali/Plague shenanigans anytime soon
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What is the best deck ever made, and why is Satellerknights?
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>>146595552
You spelled Infernity wrong
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>>146594321
Seconding this

I'd like to see what the new Red Eyes are like in a full deck
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>>146595552
Funny, because it's actually Odd-Eyes Magician.
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>>146595774
At work so can't check it, but something like this?

https://youtu.be/bXPJDiwU8yA
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>>146595864
Fucking holy kek, Odd-Eyes Magicians got immediately fucked by DOCS being released and fluttered off into irrelevance right afterwards, this is some top tier delusion
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>>146595864
Clown blade turbo is clearly the best
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>>146595990
It's a fun deck and that's all that matters!
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>>146595552
>Deneb set 4 pass
>good or well designed
Just Constellars with shittier art m8.

As for the best deck ever made in terms of design, I'm feeling Rulers are the "objective" answer. But since I prefer Spellbooks, I'm saying Spellbooks.
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>>146596128
But how can it be fun if you don't win all the time? :^)
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>>146595962
Yeah jsut pretty much anything related to them

i haven't been keeping up with the new cards and just wanted a quick/dirty visual about how they work
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After a couple hours of just playing pure Red-Eyes with the new stuff and Spark Field without really testing out what it could do with other stuff, I honestly think if Darkness Metal came even just to 2 or if we ever got a Darkness Metal Gemini, Red-Eyes would be a pretty strong deck.
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>>146597247
Hopefully we get 1-2 more support cards. I'm betting there will be at least 1 more S/T to go along with Insight. Also hoping there's a new fusion spell for Red-Eyes.
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>>146597506
A new fusion spell would be great. At the moment I'm running 1 Red-Eyes Fusion and 2 Dragon's Mirror. Since you're constantly dumping stuff Dragon's Mirror works well, especially since I'm running the Gemini Archfiend.

It's my first build running the Gemini's and Spark Field really helps them. One of my fields earlier ended up being Darkness Metal, New Meteor Fusion, Utopia Beyond and the Meteor retrain normal summoned.

There's some really cool stuff you can do in it now.
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>>146598074
>Gemini Archfiend
so fucking based now that Spark Field is a thing
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Anyone got a good Cardian list?
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>>146598074
Could you share the list? I'm using this but it runs better pure than mixed so far. Maybe Krystal Dragon will change that but I'm gonna try a 60 card version with the field.
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I want to spend 8 spaces on the lv4 ritual
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>>146595552
Funny that's not how you spell Different Dimension Demons
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>>146599874
It's nothing special, just what I've been testing with.
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"or Kinetic Soldier"
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>>146601008
Oh, I didn't realize I was playing two Red-Eyes Fusion. You can probably drop one of those.
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>>146601008
I completely forgot about allure
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Rate/8
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>>146589554
>>146589161
yiss
raita is the best player here thats right good goyim
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>Mfw I broke redeyeso with the new meteor fusion
>Mfw I'll never share my wisdom
>Mfw I don't even have a face
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>tfw Konami will never fix Red-Eyes Fusion
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>INOV
>all this legacy support
>getting MULTIPLE cards for old shitty decks we thought Konami forgot
Who ready for a second Aromage Synchro, a new Alien card, and more Qlis and Yang Zing?
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>>146602128
Another new Alien Card?
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not really sure what i'm doing
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>>146602128
I just want to meme on people with muh Alien Overlord

Synchro version when? Better alien dog/ammonite too please.
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>worth almost $6 each

Should I cave in now or do you guys think it could go even higher?
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So EerieCode managed to fix Mecha Dogoran at last, huh?
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>>146603294
Gettinc reprinted in inov sell now
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>>146603294
How many do you have? If 20 Id say off at least 5 if not 10
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>>146603440
Oh FUCK you're right

Gonna make mad bank off these babies though, bought them like 2 years ago or something for $1.30 each.

>>146603485
I've got 24. I don't want any of them.
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>>146603530
>$144
j-j-j-just do it
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Guys, i can't find the checkmate server on YGopro, what do I do?
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How do I into Cardians?
They seem interesting, especially with the whole Japanese motif they have. What was it called again?
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>>146603440
>reprints
>in a core set
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>>146604195
1) Add Cardians
2) Win
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>>146604195
Hanafuda
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>>146604195
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanafuda
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>>146604372
>>146604451
Thanks.

>>146604370
>those Seven Sins
I'm already excited. Oh, and nice background.
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>tfw I've never sold cards off of ebay before

I hate being retarded.
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>>146604195
Moon Mirror Shield.
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>>146603440
>>146603530
Do any of you faggots actually know how Booster packs work?
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>tfw you bring ABC in no meta rooms because shitters don't know it's meta yet
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>>146604636
Are you literally retarded
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Don't reply
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>>146604921
>AT15

Not sure that says INOV, maybe I just need my glasses.
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>>146604921
Is AT15 the same set as INOV you dumb bitch?
>>146603440
Read the fucking post
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>>146604636
Regardless its getting fucking reprinted you Mongoloids

Does it really matter what set it comes out in dumbasses
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>brick with ABC
>still win against TCG meta
This is funny.
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>>146605440
Point proven that you are still a dumbass who doesn't have the faintest fucking clue how Yugioh booster packs actually work despite the game being 15+ years old

Consider suicide
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>>146605654
Nice strawman faggot
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>>146606037
That's not what that word means you absolute mong.
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>>146606037
Man you are just throwing out buzzwords today

Please resist the urge to post
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>>146605542
ABCs need a buff
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>>146602128
I just want more deskbros cards man
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>retards buying out Supervise when the Geminis won't be meta
It's just another card that adds bricking and Twin Twister bait, and that goes for the field spell too.
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>>146603294
>tfw you used to have a playset but they all got lost during a move
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>>146606261
>>146606363
If he used a trip it would be easy to ignore but noooo you fags have discouraged it so now shitposting is always visible.
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TAGS WHERE
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>m-muh YGO's art is only chuuni dragons and waifus!!
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>>146610029
>Necrovalley negates
Since fucking when?
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Hosting Tag on Ygopro US
note: dng
password: vidya
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Those of you who are trying out Crystrons should try to see if you can do anything with Steam Synchron and Accel Synchron, those two seem like they might be a pretty good fit.
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>>146610175
>Negate any card effect that would move a card in the Graveyard, other than itself, to a different place.
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>>146610379
Are you memeing me?
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>>146610556
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So I just got clopped by Amorphages abusing tokens for their tributes. Am I late or was this dude next level?
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>>146610743
>clopped
>Amorphages
>tokens
>next level
>One Piece
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>>146610556
(You)

There's fucking seven different Necrovalley printings and six of them say negate
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>>146610210
need one more for the tag duel
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>>146610029
Post good yugioh card art
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>>146611068
What's the best deck to use this in?
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>>146611068
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>>146611068
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>>146601297
>>146589161
>>146589554
samefag
>>146610743
People have stuck Void Expansion/Scapegoat in Amorphages for a while now man
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>>146611068
Still mad we never got a conclusion, did Tierra defeat Nekroz of Sophia? What did Kerykeion and Sombre do?
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>>146610210
Hosting again
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>>146611360
>>146611360
Ah, then I'm just late.
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>>146611360
fuck off retard, we all hate you
you're literally mariomon 2.0
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>>146611068
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>>146611068
Have some chuuni dragons
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BE CAREFUL WHO YOU CALL UGLY IN HIGH SCHOOL
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>>146611068
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>>146612154
They literally don't look alike at all.
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>>146602791
>2 Mezuki
3, no exceptions.
>3 Vanilla, 3 Lady, 3 Prince, 3 Wightmare
I prefer 2 of each.
>Plague
Pls don't.
>No Lightsworns
2 Charge, 2 Raiden, maybe a Lyla. It's a great milling engine and gives you possible Chaos plays.
>All those Masked HEROs
Just 1/2 Dank Law is enough.
>0 (ZERO) Void Ogre
>0 (ZERO) Black Rose
>0 (ZERO) Zombie Master
1 of each. Master also allows possible Rank 4s (read: Minerva). Book of Life is good at 2 as well. Also main some Veilers and Maxx "C"s.
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>>146612313
Oh anon, please. They're the same!
>>146612163
What is he standing on?
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>>146611460
hosting again
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>>146611068
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>>146611359
art so good they copy&pasted it twice
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>>146611068
This card has an aura to it. I can't describe it... It's just... beautiful.
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I just beat monarchs and kozmos. is my deck meta now
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>>146611567
Nice shop, also
>everyone I hate is mariomon
I know you're autistic (just look at this pic here) but at least come up with something more original to express yourself sperglord
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>>146613487
>saving my pic
do you love me that much?
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>>146613539
I print it out, roll it up, and shove it in/out of my rectum daily for good luck and to obtain superior dueling skills
>>146612881
Pot of Jojo when?
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>>146614115
>and to obtain superior dueling skills
I guess it makes sense, since we're talking about the picture of an absolute dueling prodigy.
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I haven't played since soul charge came out, heard it got worse with shaddols / cliffords

Did this game get better or did it all go to overpriced shit?
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>>146613487
Who is that guy and why is he posted at least once in each thread?
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>>146614475
Whoops, I meant to post this.
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>>146614475
You don't know who Mariomon is?
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>>146614475
>mac
Come on man.

This is swamp man
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>>146614690
No, that's why I'm asking...?

>>146614739
I need Final Cut, can't bring myself to use Premiere and/or Windows.

Who is swamp man? I remember somebody posting something about the second supreme gentleman but I don't know the story.
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>>146614958
Not him but mariomon was a faggot from like 2012-2013, this is neobun times if people here ever mention neodasus

Though to be fair he wasn't that bad, there were way worse faggots. That clown namefag comes to mind

I left before he did so I don't know if he's been here since or what
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>>146561784

What's the card after Twin Twister?
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Anyone wanna help with my new favorite deck?
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>FUN TAG DUEL
>NO META
Sure, why not?
>opponent brings Barrier Stun
Why do fags do this shit?
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>Red-Eyes appealing to feetfags now
How low can you go.

>>146616515
Different Dimension Reincarnation
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>>146616884
>(You) right now
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Sekrit tek
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Time for loliposting
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>>146617779
>shitty lame -1

Sounds like /dng/ alright
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>>146617942
ing
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What is Red-Eyes' wincon supposed to be?
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>>146618267
there's literally only one guy trying to push this shitty magnet circle lv2 meme
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>New Meteor B. Dragon and Meteor Dragon

Get rekt, Blue-Eyes.
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>>146619098
Burn and Rank 7 spam.
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R8 my giant monsters going fast

>crappy extra

It's all the synchros I have, I don't own any rank 3s
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>>146619203
Weed-Smoke Nigger Dragon can talk shit when he actually tops
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>>146616884
>someone tries this on me and a friend
>we're both running machine decks
>I have 3 Rivarlies
>mrw
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>>146619203
Red-eyes just opened the door to a second set of nostalgia support so you can bet Blue-eyes is just going to get new dragons which aren't Geminis and a new contact fusion dragon as compensation for lack of a fusion spell.
>Tfw new BLS support
>Tfw new Dark Magician support
You have another chance Konami, please don't mess it up.
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Any tips on how to build Dragunities? Really enjoy the curayzhee combos you can pull but i feel my deck could use some extra polish. Here's how im playing them.
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>>146611068
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It's time for Konami to cut the crap... It's time for them to stop printing shitty Kozmo cards, Metalfoes cards and to bring back the eclipse - the one true archetype.
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>>146620370
>Upstart meme
>Reckless greed
Add Cards of Consonance and more tuners if you want draw power.
Take out Dragon's Bind for Strike/Vanity and CoTH isn't that necessary.
The rest seems ok.
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>>146620680
Chaos ritual archetype when?
I'm sure they didn't make this card generic to Chaos rituals just to mess up Chaos MAX's consistency.
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>>146620370
Harpist and those traps besides bind and solemn are too slow for the way dragunity needs to play today. I'd Fiddle around with a Hieratic engine. I've been testing a brilliant engine but I haven't got my ratios right yet.
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>>146620863
>konami revives chaos control
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>>146619098
My build relies on spamming the board really fast with strong monsters. Ideally you'll need a turn to set up stuff like a first turn Red-Eyes Fusion, dumping 3 monsters thanks to the Meteor Fusion or setting up for Red-Eyes Darkness Metal shennaningans next turn with Paladin of Dark Dragon or use it to set up a fusion play next turn since you can add fusion with the rituals effect (Or Insight, so you get a 4th dump if you're going for Meteor).

Ultimately, by your second or turn third you SHOULD be able to have a field of 2 Fusions, Darkness Metal, then something else, whether it be a couple of the Gemini/Dragons themselves or Flare Metal or something. If you're running Spark Field you can do some really nasty OTK's thanks to the Gemini Archfiend's effect.
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>>146620680
What's the best way to use this card? I want to fit him in somewhere but I don't want to play piper chaos or CD if I put too many lightsworns in.
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>>146620863
Black Luster Soldier's Japanese name is Chaos Soldier
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>>146620863
I actually want them to print more Chaos effect monsters. Maybe an Extra Deck BLS retrain, because DM got two and BLS only got a shitty Ritual retrain and two shitty younger versions even though he is the better ace.
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Post meme decks only.
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>>146621069
>My build relies on spamming the board really fast with strong monsters
>Ideally you'll need a turn to set up stuff
>need a turn to set up
>really fast
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>>146621146
Try using Red-eyes.
The new fusion is a good way to get it in the grave.
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>>146621194
KAOSUSORUJA
>>146621146
It can be used in any deck that uses light and dark monsters but it's ultimately not as good as it used to be.
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>>146620686
What other tuners should i consider? Dragon Buster Destruction Sword maybe?
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>>146621293
I'm not talking tier 1 Kozmo fast, but for Red-Eyes, a formally unplayable deck, being able to get 4 pretty strong monsters out in 2 turns is definitely fast.
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>>146621482
Brilliant Red-Eyes w/ Galaxy Serpent & Quickdraw Synchron is the fastest build and even then it dies to anything remotely decent because Red-Eyes is shit
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>>146621293
I don't know how that picture got there. (Was looking at a replay to see secret techs for Crystron.)

>>146621482
Yeah, I was just joking about how needing a turn to set-up is now considered slow in modern ygo.
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KONAMI NEEDS TO BRING CHAOS BACK
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>>146621194
>This card can be used to Ritual Summon any "Chaos" or "Black Luster Soldier" Ritual Monster.
It can summon any ritual monster so long as it has "Chaos" in the name.
We all know how it works with BLS since UDE/4kids messed up
Magician of Black Chaos is applicable
Blue-eyes Chaos MAX Dragon is what it's supposed to be used for.
I'm just hoping that make more rituals which have "Chaos" in the name and maybe make it into an archetype so Chaos Form being generic looks less suspect as an indirect need to Chaos MAX.
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post creepy normal monsters
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>>146621395
>>146621316
I know I can use it in several decks but I just miss not realizing I could improve the deck and subbing in something else like instant most of the time. I will try red eyes out though, I've been turned off by them due to people saying how shit they are, maybe I'll try some OCG felgrand stuff with it as well.
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>>146622002
BUT THE GRAVE
WAS
EMPTYYYYYY
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>>146622002
kuriri
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>>146611068
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red-eyes tech
won't stop dark destroyer or alternative, but it will stop castel and kirin and sometimes monarchs
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If Chaos Emperor Dragon and Dark Magician of Chaos were retrained into rituals with their original
unerrata effects, would they still be good?
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>>146622745
It's not particularly good.
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>>146622890
i think the colors are great and the contrast between the 2 is good.
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>>146622868
CED would be excellent and would replace Chaos MAX in Blue-Eyes. DMoC, not so much.
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>>146622853
>2500 or less
>Ophion is 2550
JUST
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>>146623004
I mean, yeah, it's pretty, but it's not strikingly good.
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>>146623096
FUTURE PROOF
U
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P
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>>146623209

Well that's just your opinion. Fuck you.
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>>146623096
>Judgment Dragon has 2600 DEF so it can't be searched by Melody
>Vanity's Fiend has 1200 DEF so it doesn't work with Monarch support
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Do you think Electro/magnet Warriors would benefit from smaller Fusions, similar to all the smaller fusions like how XYZ-Dragon has XY / XZ / YZ?
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AHAHAHA YUGI
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>>146623096
>you have to run over Ophion with something 2600 or more to kill it while dodging the backrow
How the hell did people play anything but r4 back then? Evilswarms are degenerate.
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>>146623440
>amorphactor psycho
>2950 attack
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>>146623479
>underestimating the power of Dragon Rulers

Fucking newfags have it easy.
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>>146623410
Do you really think Pantheism's artwork has any "striking" qualities? If so, why don't you explain them to me?
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>>146623514
Can you imagine if this thing had 3000 atk?
It's be an absolute nightmare to play against ritual Blue-eyes since you got this and Chaos MAX on your ass.
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>>146623797
>implying anyone would play Chaos MAX at all if Amorfagtor had 3000 ATK
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>>146623467
From which country Kaiba originally is if his is the reincarnation of an egyptian priest? His original family is from Japan?
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>>146624019
Priest Seto is the Egyptian Priest
Seto Kaiba is the Japanese CEO
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>>146624019
reincarnation =/= progeny
Kaiba is 100% nip
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When will my nigga Brionac come back
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>>146624019
little yugi is also atem's reincarnation, even before he makes the puzzle and they start sharing a body

it's magic i aint gotta explain shit
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>>146624229
when he gets a Hard OPT.
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>>146624019
Everyone is Japanese in YGO except for Bandit Keith, Pegasus, the Ishtars, and Aigami's group.
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>>146624103
>>146624145
>>146624254
But Kaiba is adopted and Seth isn't a japanese name. Kaiba's Father/Mother never appeared in the anime/manga too, only Mokuba. Also, Mokuba have a dark skin for some reason.
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>>146624408
Seto is a Japanese name. Here's an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C5%8Dji_Seto
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>>146624408
His name is Seto, not Seth.
Mokuba killed their mom in birth and their dad died in an accident 5 years layer and their family drained the inherited money and dumped them at an orphanage where Gozaboru adopted Kaiba.
All of this is in Japan.
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>>146624648
>their family drained the inherited money and dumped them at an orphanage
What kind of family does that shit?
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>>146624874
Asians are heartless and have no souls. Everyone knows this.
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>>146624976
It's true, if an Eastern Asian person saw someone bleeding out on the sidewalk, 90% they'd just walk away.
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>>146625251
nice stereotype
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>>146612163
NEVER EVER
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Besides Brionac, Sratos and Construct, which cards should be unbanned?
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>>146625763
pot of greed
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>>146625763
Zenmaity :^)
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>>146625763
Blaster
Fishborg
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>>146625763
Cyber-Stein
Disk Commander
Magical Scientist
Tribe-Infecting Virus
Sangan
Witch of the Black Forest
Yata-Garasu
Evilswarm Exciton Knight
Card Destruction
Harpie's Feather Duster
Monster Reborn
Super Polymerization by banning Norden
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>>146626094
>Fishborg
We both know it would cause problems.
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>>146626094
cloudians back to tier 0
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>>146626328
No, Mermails/Atlanteans. Might as well unlimit Dragoons too, for maximum wombo combos.
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>>146626604
cloudiands could double/triple quasar (back when we had monster reborn for the 3rd quasar)
You're not wrong that mermails would be extreme cancer but cloudian was another tier entirely
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>>146625617
>Put this card face-up on top of your deck
>>146626697
I know. It's just that Atlanteans can probably use Fishborg Blaster more effectively, now that Quasar has been powercreeped into oblivion.
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>>146626845
hyper librarian was a mistake
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i see some of you have been doing pure red eyes dicklists with falling meteor

but has anyone here ever done chaos dragons with red eyes and falling meteor
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What cards help me get X out for an AtoZ deck?
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>>146627387
ABC is much more consistent on its own, but if you're dedicated to getting AtoZ out then Gear Gigant, gadgets, and frontline base are your best bets. Maybe iron call.
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>>146627387
Brilliant Fusion into Seraphinite > Dump Lazuli and X-Head Cannon
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>>146627387
Unexpected Dai
Brilliant Fusion
Iron Call


It'll almost happen though, it'd only be consistent in tags if your partner focuses on ABC and you on XYZ
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>>146627683
Trip, you have any experience with Cardians?
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>>146622853
Note that you can use Shrink on your Chaos MAX, target it with Dragon Bind, then your opponent can't summon anything under 4KIDZ since its original attack.
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>>146620187
The nostalgia support will only last up to Raging Tempest since it's the last main set of 2016, don't expect anymore nostalgia next year unless DM sequel happens, but seeing how they fit Aliens, Qlis, Yang Zings, Red-Eyes, Ignites, and Aromages into Invasion of Venom, I believe Konami won't dissapoint next set.
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>>146627875
No, haven't tried them yet. Too scary.
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why are all yugioh rivals tall trench coat wearing assholes?
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>>146629020
Because they need to be threatening.
Reiji doesn't wear a trenchcoat, though.
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rate pls
no masked hero gay shit
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>>146629370
Reiji has only dueled 4 times in 110 episodes and has to pretend everything was because of him, and in his past duel all he did was shill a structure deck. He will die to Covenant burn.
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>>146629518
use 1 rainbow dragon and 1 rainbow dark dragon
if you draw both and your opponent uses mind crush, you are guaranteed to keep one
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>>146629518
>no Masked HERO gay shit
>m-muh player preference!!
>I refuse to use the most optimal cards because they are "cancerous"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcn0JID76n8
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>>146629518
Why aren't you running Melody of Awakening Dragon? Also this >>146629821, you're retarded
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Having lots of fun with the new cards. Red-Eyes Insight is the best one, making even Wyvern usable someway.

Need to fix my build, is just a WIP, but I think it works better without Pre-Preparation of Rites and Paladin of Dark Dragon now.
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Tourney WHEN?!?!
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>>146630209
Add Pre-Prep and Paladin.
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>>146629518
>Neos cards
>ever
Just run original E-Heroes of you want an anime HERO deck
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>>146630209
>No spark field
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>>146630209
Why are you running MST over Twin Twister?
>6 Geminis with no spark field
>Retro Dragon
>Five Headed Dragon
What the hell is this?
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>>146630391
New Field Spell card? The effect sounds nice, I will try it now.
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>>146630209
Add Pre-Prep and Lord.
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that was close
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>make this shitty field
>opponent asks me if I'm happy and then surrenders
What is wrong with YGO players these days?
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>>146594082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RETSHJFLM4I

Don't forget to give that like button a titty slap, anon. :^)
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>>146594082
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28600796
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>>146633221
You sure as fuck are not part of the problem insulting random dudes just because they had an autistic burst on you
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>>146634237
>quits at the first sign of a struggle
>"p-p-please don't bully me!"
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>>146634237
Yeah, this >>146634334. He deserved to be called a retard.
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>>146634237
>can't handle the bantz on a Japanese fisherman local Blackjack simulator

Why even turn your computer on then family? Even Reddit wouldn't be up to your speed, try tumblr
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>>146633221
If that Meteor Dragon was gemini summoned I'd scoop too if I had no other follow up play outside of Castel.

lmao @ the salt
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>>146621395
KOs Soldier

In the case of Chaos MAX, it applies. Lots of Damage.
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>>146635196
It was gemini summoned thanks to Spark Field's extra summon, but it's just destruction protection. It's not like I had Dark Law set 5.
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Don't die on me.
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>>146637262
stop making me want to build harpies
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>>146637307
Just do it man.
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>>146637307
It's not even that good of an XYZ engine anymore. It's outpaced by just about everything.
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>>146637431
but can i masturbate to the other rank 4 N-jins
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>>146637487
Yes.
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>>146637487
There are some qt mermails. Besides, nothing gets my dick rock hard like giant ruri plays.
Trust me. If fappability was all that mattered in a deck then Lunalights would be tier 1 right now.
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>>146637668
traptrixes are traps!
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>>146637727
I fail to see how that is relevant to the conversation at hand.
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ITS BEEN OVER A FUCKING YEAR
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>>146637727
No, they're huge fucking spider thingies that can and WILL eat you alive. Here's what a real waifu looks like.
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>>146638004

That isn't HIita.
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>>146638004
she's silent swordsman's waifu
and he actually hit that and made silent paladin, so it's not okay like it is with kisara, who kaiba doesn't care about anymore
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>>146638004
Waifu time?
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Hosting on YGOpro. Testing Crystrons.
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>>146638004
Whoops, wrong pic.
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>>146587960
Yugioh is for fucking faggots
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>>146638380

you know she has a juicy dick under that skirt, right
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>>146637979
Kozmos wont do shit in ocg because of CED alone

It will be glorious
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>>146638547

why the fuck wouldn't they retard?
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>>146638042

Well she is a charmer
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>>146638609
Blue eyes has bad matchups to kozmos and guess which deck is played the most there
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>>146638690
Wynn > Hiita
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>>146639016

Eria is the best by liberty of being related to GGGG.

Wynn is pretty baller since she somehow escaped the DT universe.
familiar wind dragon WHEN
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upvUwj_48K8

>B-BUT RED EYES FUSION IS A BAD CARD

Fuck off, retards, and brace yourself for the glorious Red Eyes future.
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>>146640657
>4 cards combo
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>>146640935

and 2 of those being unsearchable
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>>146640935
>/dng/ in charge of counting
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Is Checkmate udating?

ABC soon on Checkmate?
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm29115573
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>>146640935
>4
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>>146641115
>unsearchable
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>>146642093

Red-Eyes Insight can't search Inferno Fire Blast, you fucking retard
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>>146642209

Insight is one (1) card.
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>Shitposting
>something about feminine penises or some shit
>just played an entire dark tournament in tag force V
>hit "submit"
>wait for the anon I'm arguing to submit his reply, waiting his turn to end, with the mentality that we are in a battle
>that sensation of fearing spell/trap cards to activate hits, then back to reality when realizing that he can't do that
I probably should get some sleep
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>>146638365
Stilll hosting
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>(1) If this card is Fusion Summoned: You can activate this effect; send 1 “Red-Eyes” monster from your hand or Deck to the Graveyard, and if you do, inflict damage to your opponent equal to half its original ATK.

>half its original ATK.
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>>146641115
Left Arm Offering
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>>146642269
Yes but you also need 2(TWO) Inferno Fire Blast. And they're not fucking searchable.
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>activate 3 Cup of Ace
>get Heads every single time
holy
fuck
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WHERES THE NEW CARD ANNOUNCEMENT
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>>146644121
I got you senpai
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>>146644223
>frog Xyz
oh my
which old archetype are they going to support next?
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>fucking FROGS get support in INOV
what is wrong with this world
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>frog support
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>>146644223

translate it weebs
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>First Aliens
>Now Frogs
C L O U D I A N S W H E N
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>>146644223
2 Lv2 WATERs
1: During either player's SP, you can detach 1 Xyz mat, Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from Deck.
2: OPT, when your opponent activates a card or effect, you can send 1 WATER monster from your field or hand to the grave, negate the activation, and if you do destroy it. Then you can set the destroyed card to your own side of the field (the fuck?)
3: If this card is sent to the graveyard you cantarget 1 WATER monster in your graveyard, add it to hand (I don't see the "except this card" thing)
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>>146644492

IT'S FUCKING AMAZING

YES, I'M PUTTING MY TRIP THIS TIME, I FUCKING LOVE FROGS, THEY WERE MY FIRST DECK, GODDAMN, THIS IS AMAZIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
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>>146644492
>when your opponent activates a card or effect,
activates a spell, trap or an effect monster's effect*
sorry, it's late
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>>146644492
So it does not matter if it goes to the graveyard or not, you can just set pendulums too?
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>>146644596
as monsters, sure.
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>>146644492
>>146644559
replace every instance of WATER with Aqua-type
or just wait for the org, they do a better job than me anyways
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>Tewart never bothered renaming Frog the Jam because he thought they would never get support
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAAHAH
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>>146644492
You forgot "Except frog the Jam"
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>>146644492
It's time.
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Mochi Frog
Level 2 WATER Aqua-Type Xyz Effect Monster
ATK 2200
DEF 0
Materials: 2 Level 2 Aqua-Type monsters
(1) During either player's standby phase: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from your deck, except "Frog the Jam".
(2) Once per turn, when your opponent activates a card effect: You can send 1 Aqua-type monster from your hand or field to the graveyard; Negate that effect and destroy it. After that, set the destroyed card on your side of the field.
(3) If this card is sent to the graveyard: You can target 1 WATER monster in your graveyard: Add it to your hand.

>After that, set the destroyed card on your side of the field.
I'm sorry the fuck
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>>146644707
in moonland it doesn't have ガエル in its name, so it's not part of the frog archetype.
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>>146644492
So what are the good frogs again?
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>>146644223
>>146644492
YES. THIS PLEASES ME.
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How do you do fellow dragons?
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>>146644826
Swap Frog and Ronintoadin. That's it.
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>>146644826
Swap Frog
Ronintoadin (As overlay mats)
Dupe Frog
Des Frog as rank 5 overlay mats

>tfw neo /dng/ will never remember janky pet decks before DUEA killed everything

Such is life.
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>>146644965
Treeborn
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>>146644965
dupe aka the cutest
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>>146644965
>>146644983
Doesn't seem like enough to make a deck out of.
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>>146645030
That's because Substitoad had to die for their sins.
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The closest to frogs being a deck was janky Sea Lancer turbo.

Its pretty much extremely dated Monarchs.

>>146645030
Frogs were part of a clusterfuck engine with Sea Lancer and the dated Monarchs; they were never their own deck outside the infamous FTK (and most likely will ever be).
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>>146645078
Release Substitoad.
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>>146645030
Add three Level 2 Aqua type vanillas and run Tri Wight. You get the monster and a card to use with this effect.
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>>146645141
They would win worlds again.
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>>146645141
>Freeing FTK bait

Not likely.
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>>146645193
>3 level 2 aqua-type vanillas
Frog the jam fits those critera
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>>146645241
The bastard son makes a triumphant return
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>>146645202
I am ready for the new frog meta.
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>>146644492
BURGESSTOMA FROGS TIER 0 BABY
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>>146645454
>Still no card of demise
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>>146645454
what happens if i activate royal decree? Or summon Jinzo?
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Mochi Frog
Level 2 WATER Aqua-Type Xyz Effect Monster
ATK 2200
DEF 0
Materials: 2 Level 2 Aqua-Type monsters
(1) During either player's standby phase: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Special Summon 1 "Frog" monster from your deck, except "Frog the Jam".

(2) Once per turn, when your opponent activates a card effect: You can send 1 Aqua-type monster from your hand or field to the graveyard; Negate that effect and destroy it. After that, set the destroyed card on your side of the field.

(3) If this card is sent to the graveyard: You can target 1 WATER monster in your graveyard: Add it to your hand.
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>>146645525
>Royal Decree
Can't stop floating
>Jinzo
Frogs summon Centaur
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>>146645582
>After that, set the destroyed card on your side of the field.
You can set the destroyed card
Just clearing up setting it is not mandatory.

Man I can't wait for rulings on this shit
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>>146645513
Demise is shit outside of turn 1 going first, it kills Pikaia (your best card) and stops your Swap Frog, Burgesstoma revivals, and your Xyz plays.

>>146645525
Triple Chaos Trap Hole and Twin Twisters are sided m8. CTH is more for Denko though.
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>>146645756

If you destroy a nomi, you can set it?
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>>146645853
See that nomi? You can set it.
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>>146645853
From the way it's worded atm, it doesn't say anything about Special Summoning so I'm guessing it works like Farfa and just returns on the field.
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>>146645853
I'd say only semi-nomis like BLS Envoy and most Fusions/Synchros/Xyz can be set.
That effect is fucking ridiculous though. Stealing an opponent's Twin Twisters as a Burger player will be pretty damn hilarious.
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>set a Quasar
>set a Crystal Wing
>set a Raigeki
>set an Infinity
>set a Solejk ;^)
I was gonna say set a Dank Destroyer but that's most definitely really bad idea
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Say I activate the blue crystron's effect, and summon artifact moraltach. It says that it's summoned with its effects negated, but it also says "immediately after this effect resolves, synchro summon yadda daddah da"
My question is, does the synchro summon happen before moraltach gets a chance to activate, and if so, since moraltach is no longer on field and having its effects negated, do I get a pop?
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Is Red-Eyes getting more cards in INOV?
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>>146646156
>Works on percy
HUE
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>>146646176
You got 3 cards worth of support already calm the fuck down son.

>>146646156
>immediately after this effect resolves
the effect that resolves is moraltach being summoned with its effect negated so I'd guess not
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>>146646092
whats a solejk?
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>>146646292
>negating a counter trap with a quick effect
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>>146646156

OCG/EU - effect activates but is negated
US - effect can't activate
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>>146646340
Don't respond to Mariomon.
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>>146646352
>but is negated
But it's no longer on field when the effect activates.
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>>146646352
What happens if you send an BA summoned off tour slut to the grave?
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>>146644320
Glad Beasts (among many others) got support in PRIO. This is just another one of those sets, and I'm fucking loving it.
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>>146646525
>comparing an effect that activates in the Graveyard to one that activates on the field
sasuga /dng/
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>checkmate server is discontinued from now on

what the fuck
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>>146646617
Ok smart guy
What happens if you SS a tella with CotH while skill drain is up, but right after its effect activates, you chain MST to pop CotH?
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>>146646663

http://www.ygopro.co/Forum/tabid/95/g/posts/t/31779/Checkmate-Server-Update#post153331
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>>146646834
Nice, anon!
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>>146646743
North America, Deneb doesn't activate.
Elsewhere, it activates and resolves normally. But that's a property of Skill Drain, because it specifically says to negate all monster effects WHILE THEY ARE FACE-UP ON THE FIELD. If you used Breakthrough or Veiler it would still be negated.

tl;dr learn to read and git gud
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>>146647169
>North America, Deneb doesn't activate.
Remove tewart.
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>>146647169
>North America, Deneb doesn't activate.
You're an idiot.
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>activate Treatoad
>Set Fiber Jar
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>>146646176
Probably 1 or 2 more.

My hope is an XYZ and a S/T. But I think one more S/T is likely.
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>>146647169
Good point.
My main contention is the fact that by the time the effect of the summoned monster activates, neither card is on field, which just doesn't happen with the other examples. Closest thing I can think of is chaining re-dyce-cle to dark hole, and then SS terrortop only to have it die instantly. Its effect then activates in grave, and not on field, where its effects are negated.
Does that make more sense?
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>>146647169
Breakthrough wouldn't negate Deneb if it was sent to the graveyard right after, because it says "face-up monster".
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the point is Tewart can't be allowed to change the rules of the game and ignore WHAT IS ALREADY ESTABLISHED BY THE CREATORS THEMSELVES

YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY DENEB IS RULED LIKE THAT


SO HE COUPD SELL BURNING ABYSS MORE
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>/dng/ JUST NOW accepting the Deneb ruling was rigged
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>born too late to explore the earth
>born too early to explore the universe
>born just in time to witness frogs win a second world championship
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>>146639112
>somehow escaped the DT universe.
What?

Also Aussa a best
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>>146647169
No, stupid. Skill Drain doesn't stop activations, Deneb will activate anywhere and resolve properly because it will no longer be face up on the field when its effect resolves
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>>146652181
>implying Tewart understands logic
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>>146652181
Should correct myself. In North America, Deneb doesn't *resolve* because Tewart is a retard.
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>made a Blue-Eyes deck since 2006
>promise myself I will never play meta

>comeback to game
>Blue-Eyes is meta
This isn't fair. I shouldn't have to sell my house to play my favorite deck.
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>>146652694
Your tears... are delicious.
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>>146652694
If you promised yourself you'd never play meta then there shouldn't be any problem. Just don't buy the new good cards.
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>>146652814
But the vanilla is a key part of the meta deck retard.
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why did frogs need their own infinity?
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>>146652694
Just use the cult. Or better yet, keep your build.
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>>146650316

Wynn is from the gusto tribe, but exists outside of DT universe.
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>>146652948
Ok? They cost 2 dollars.
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>>146652814
All he has to do is avoid
>Blue-eyes Spirit Dragon
>Dragon Spirit of White
>Alternative Dragon
>Sage with eyes of Blue
>Gospel of Revival
>The White Stone of Ancients
And he's all good.
>Blue-eyes has the least support compared to Dark Magician and Red-eyes and it does better than both of them.
I laugh everytime considering that SHVI, MP, DP and Kaiba SD had nothing but useless cards for it aside from ones mentioned above
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>>146652958
Mochi Frog is objectively better than Infinity
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>>146653025
HE DOESNT WANT TO PLAY META RETARD
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>>146652958
Ever here of Equity?
Frogs have been dead since Substitoad got banned so this was the only way to revive them.
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>>146653125
Playing BEWD without any of the good cards isn't playing meta.
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>>146653182
BEWD is still a meta card. If I play Tribe Infecting Virus Kozmos the Kozmos are STILL meta even if its a shit build.
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>>146652694
>waaaah I don't want to win with my favourite deck
There really is no pleasing yugioh players.
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>>146653269
>BEWD is still a meta card
No it's not, it's just the 6 new support cards being good.
> If I play Tribe Infecting Virus Kozmos the Kozmos are STILL meta even if its a shit build
Do you even understand what meta means? It describes the most played or most represented deck(s) in the top cut of tournaments.
Kozmos have a specific build with either FK island or linear Kozmo beatdown and those are the builds which are meta.
If you don't believe me, go play Cult or Ritual Blue-eyes then go back to playing standard OCG Blue-eyes and you'll that there is a vast difference in power level.
That's what sets aside meta builds to petdeck builds
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>>146653269
>If I play Solemn Notice in my Crystal Beast deck then that means my deck is Meta!
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>>146652587
>>146647169
Wait what? If Skill drain is on the field and I activate Coth to summon Deneb. Deneb then activates as CL1 and I chain MST as CL2 targeting Coth. Chain resolves mst send Coth to grave which sends Deneb to grave then Deneb resolves and since it's no longer on the field it is not effected by Skill Drain. Are you actually saying Deneb doesn't resolve in this case? Are you retarded?
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>>146652694
>promise myself I will never play meta
But why.
Intentionally gimping yourself is dumb, if you enjoy a deck, use it.
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>>146655513
>Are you retarded?
No, but Tewart is
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Quick! Post that rare card outside the meta cardpool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqRzKfFTOt4
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>>146656024
I agree, but how is that relevant here? What point are you trying to make? Is there a ruling here that's wrong?
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>>146656106
>5+ Card combos
>good
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>>146656106

that's some janky shit.

I love it.
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Is pot of cupidity a meme?
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>>146656975
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I want THE BEST Boss Monster.
I'd love a deck focused all on a hard-as-fuck to summon guy, but IF you summon him he's 99% unremovable. I tried pic-related, but he atually dies to higher ATK scores, which both Honest and Utopia Lightning can provide easily. Or Blue-eyes high beat-sticks.

What deck would fit the bill of "you can get rid of this guy only in VERY SPECIFIC, NON-META circumstances" monster?
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>>146657607
You called?
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>>146657607
>The Dark Door
>Scrap-Iron Scarecrow

You're welcome
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>>146657701
>CWSD
>non meta
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>>146657774
>implying a stall deck will let you attack
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>>146657774
l-lol?
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>>146657701
If the opponent plays honest, does this nigga become Honest boost +1000 or just +1000 of the base monster?
This + Mask of restrict (to avoid Kaiju/tributing) would make it literally unremovable, right?
If so, it's a wet dream come true, thanks man, i for one welcome our nigger-god overlord.
>>146657762
What is Twin Twister.
>>146657774
Why would clear wing counter it? Doesn't this guy always get your ATK + 1000?
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>>146658152
Zushin is a mandatory effect and is always cl1 (unless you have a mandatory effect attacker aka Crystal wing). Therefore chain resolves backwards, your guy gains 0 ATK, then zushin gains your atk + 1000.
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>Opponent 1 is playing Evols
>Opponent 2 is playing Luna
>Summon Goliath and lock them down
>They have 4 Backrow
>Partner attacks and gets burrying mirror forced

Good job, retard.
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So how do we make frogs tier 1?
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>>146658241
If you attack with CWSD, Zushin resolves first and goes to 4K then CW goes to 7k
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>>146658484
Yes, thats what I said
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>>146658469
Make an archetype of cards that they have great synergy with and that can summon their XYZ for them, then release it outside of Korea.
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>>146658560
Pirate archtype when?
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>>146657607

Blue eyes can't beat over a proper falcon, lightning can't either since you can just detatch when they end MP1
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>>146658786
>Archetype-specific Painful Choice
Would you kindly design cards well?
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Who /NewFrogMeta/ here?
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Chain Mask Change II :)
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>>146658874
>Lightning can't beat over Falcon because you can detach at end of MP1

Ok first off Falcon is an ignition effect, not quick, and second, even if you could reduce Lightning to 1500 on your opponent's turn, it wouldn't matter because Lightning BECOMES 5000, it doesn't double its atk.

Idiot.

>>146658934
Nah.
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>>146658959
post deck list
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>>146658874
>>146659039
Not that anon, but Blue-Eyes decks can also beat over Ultimate Falcon. Have you ever heard of Dark Matter Dragon and Full Armour Photon Dragon?
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>>146659017
ok?
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>>146659385
>mfw I noticed hes riding a scooter and not just jumping forward while posing
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>>146659464
first imma do a flip

then imma do your mom
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>>146659464
>new synchro monster
>its just zeta on a scooter
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>>146659464
Thanks for ruining Omega for me
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>>146659039
I feel like a more western artstyle would be better. Also maybe you could have level 7 and 8 ships, the captains be 5 and 6 and the rest be 2/3/4
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>>146659207
It's nothing special, but it is fun as fuck. Sacks wins against Blue-Eyes and friends, but I think Dracopals would be a hard matchup.
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>>146659585
It would have to be a level 9 Synchro since Epsilon (the scooter) is level 2
Fucking do it Konami, I need another Lv9 Feel Zone target
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>>146659832
A D D B U R G E S S T O M A S
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>>146659607
Fuck off back to pojo you fucking retard.
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>>146659832
>anomalocaris for no reason
>not just running burgerfrogs
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>>146659609
Huh. I legit never thought about having ships as monsters.

That's kind of a cute idea.
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>>146660338
The Spells and Traps could be various pieces of treasure
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>>146660338
https://discord.gg/DhMtz
/dng/ CaC discord
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>>146644223
>except Frog the Jam
Damn it KoA. You should have reprinted Frog the Jam with its proper name ages ago. And issued a ruling stating it doesn't work with Frog support.
>>
Well shit according to the DM anime guide which contains a play by play of the duels in the movie Aigami uses two more trap cards that weren't printed in the movie pack.

First trap: When an opponent's monster declares an attack: Special Summon 1 Vijam from the deck and make the opponent's monster attack it.

Second Trap: When an opponent's monster declares an attack, negate the attack, then special summon 2 Cubic monsters from your deck ignoring their summoning conditions. Aigami used this trap to bring out two Crimson Nova on his opponent's turn.

In addition the Cubics had the ability to be special summoned during the battle phase. Also, monsters with Cubic counters have their attack reduced to 0 as well.
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>>146644223
>>146644492
Ayu will rise!
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>>146659609
And then have the ships float into captains, and the captains float into crew.

Oh wait.
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>>146661754

>In addition the Cubics had the ability to be special summoned during the battle phase. Also, monsters with Cubic counters have their attack reduced to 0 as well.

Fuck you Konami and fuck your stupid nerfs
>>
outside of banish stun, tribute stun, barrier beat, which is the most obnoxious backrow-heavy deck in the game?

I would say it's a throw up between Volcanics and Evilswarm.

Does anyone have a Traptrix/HAT deck they'd like to share?
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>>146659609
>>146661978
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>>146662070
Counter fairy.dek
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>>146644223
>>146644492
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCeOf2q6_TA
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>>146661978
Better idea.

Captains --> Ships --> Harbors?
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>>146662216
how does using this in counter fairies make it any different? theres no cost
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As ABCs continue to top, I continue to be bored and update this image. Expect more in the possible (possible) near future

Enjoy
http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1058769578.html
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>>146662497
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>>146662004
Kaz did nothing wrong.
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>>146662070
>Does anyone have a Traptrix/HAT deck they'd like to share?
This is what I use when I get bored of everything else.
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>146663187
Source?
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>>146663187
>MVPC-EN000
It's a promo, just great.
It's just like D/D, useless until 2017.
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>>146663187
FAKE
DELETE THIS
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>>146663187
HAPPENING
HAPPENING
BEWDFAGS GONNA HAVE TO PLAY 60+ BUCKS FOR A PLAYSET AND SIT THROUGH THE MOVIE THREE TIMES AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
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>>146657607
Super Quantum
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>>146663187
BLUE EYES FAGS BTFO

B
T
F
O
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>>146663875
>>146663851
>Seriously not being able to afford 3 cards in order to shit slap the metagame

I'll never understand why people act like this is a point against dudes who play whatever the next hype metadeck is (in this case BEs) You realize that it's not going to be shit to afford if you aren't fucking poor right? Not only that but regardless of how expensive it'll be, Blue-Eyes will still dominate regardless

Poorfags need to be removed
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>>146663187
wat about the other cards that were promos in japan? they are in the TCG pack?
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>>146663187
Fucking Tewart....
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>>146663187
>people STILL PUT UP with Jewart after this
its like you enjoy being ripped off your money or something
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>>146663187
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>>146664082
>Blue-eyes will still dominate regardless
That's like saying D/D will still be good in 2017 when it'll be powercreeped to trash.
The 2 decks I liked the most are now going to suffer through nebra disk syndrome.
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>>146663187
>they made Alternative Dragon a movie promo while everything else gets imported.
Fuck Konami, I'm not watching that gay shit movie 3 times just to play Blue-eyes at barely above rogue.
Keep your shitty movie pack and movie promos
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>>146665382
Just how BA got powercreeped into irrelevancy amirite :^)
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>>146665813
BA would be shit if they didn't keep stealing engines from Yuya's clones
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>>146662512
Thank you
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>>146665813
Burning Abyss is floatshit.dek which didn't get hit by the banlist enough to kill it and it's backed by Tewart.
Blue-eyes doesn't float and has restrictions everywhere making it weaker disaster dragons.
D/Ds are a combo deck and we always powercreeped past those after a few years.
Look at Junk Doppel, X-sabers, Gigavise and many others before it.
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>>146663187
I don't even care about this meme. I just want to watch the fucking movie. Fan sub when.
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>>146665813
You can't powercreep floatshit.
You banhammer it into trash.
Neither of these decks are floater decks
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>>146666424
>You can't powercreep floatshit.
What about Yang Zing?
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So this is now confirmed shit right?
Gadgets aren't going to be good until ABCs
>Cubics
>Magician Girls
>Blue-eyes "support"
This shit has nothing redeeming it now.
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>>146644223
>>146645025
>Dupe Frog misses timing when sent by Treatoad
These little shits can't do anything right!
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>>146666297
>Fan sub when.
Wait for the BD in like 6 months or something.
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>>146666592
>6 months
REEEEEEEEEEEEE.jpg
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>>146666206
>Blue-eyes doesn't float and has restrictions everywhere making it weaker disaster dragons.
Which is precisely why it's topped about 20x more than Disaster ever has in its entire fucking lifespan right?

Please either PLAY the game or resist the urge to continue posting
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>>146666584
Cubics MIGHT not be dead on arrival if we actually get the promo in this pack.
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>>146666515
Not that anon but Yang Zing and Burning Abyss aren't really comparable in their floating ability.
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>>146666515
Yang Zings were never good.
They were just a gatekeeper deck while Shaddolls and Tellars were meta.
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>>146666692
That's at least anon, then you have to wait for someone to rip the BD and then someone else to sub it.
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>>146666589
It would only miss timing if you decided to set your Opponents card to your side of the field like a retard. Read it again, that part is optional. Also, before you even respond to this fucking post, READ the card again because that's an "and if you do" for the negation part so it wouldn't miss timing there either
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>>146666814
If Cubics can't even top in a format where Monarchs are even more bricky, pendulums are shittier and Kozmos don't exist.
Let's not forget they have ZERO(0) consistency without Upstart and Chicken Game for free draw power to get what they need faster.
They ain't doing shit TCG side.
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>>146666950
>It would only miss timing if you decided to set your Opponents card to your side of the field like a retard.
>like a retard
No you stupid. Of course you fucking would.
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>>146667092
Why would you take something you didn't fucking need if you were so worried about Dupe missing timing in that scenario then you dipshit?
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>>146663851
How much is a movie ticket in the US?

I am third world but when I went to watch The Force Awakens I got IMAX 3D tickets and I believe I spent $4.75 (Food not included because I always smuggle my own food), release day too.

Regular 2D tickets are like $3, that means I'm getting a playset for $9 if there's enough demand for the movie and promos in Mexico. Fuck me, I just hope they get the original VAs.
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>>146663187
At least the Meiru Drago is still useful, no regrets on getting it.
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>>146667203
depends on the theater, but local places charge $8-10 for a ticket.
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>>146667197
Dupe Frog only searches frogs. And when you've already got Treatoad on the field you most likely don't need to search frogs with Dupe Frog and anything from Twin Twister to a shitty monster face down, would likely do your more good.
But it's just a shame that you can't get both. Because Dupe Frog is a huge piece of shit that even misses timing.
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>Dark Memegician is awful
>Blue Eyes Meme Dragon isn't coming till 2017
>Red Eyes Meme Dragon is bad until Venom, and still questionable after that
>BLS and Buster Blader are Lol xD tier.
Guess I'll just wait till new Destiny HEROs come out in the TCG to make a new deck.
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>>146666709
Post the tops for Disaster Dragons from 2010 - 2012 before Dr.Red got hit if you can because I'm sure a deck which has been meta for about 4 months doesn't even have tops to compare to the 2nd most prominent dragon deck until Rulers tore everything a new asshole.
It is for that same reason why Dr.Red is permanently stuck at 1.
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>>146667451
Are the card backs 39s or 62s?
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>>146663187
Looks like shit without the KC Rarity.
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>>146667451
>Cubics
>2 card ED
Is this supposed to be impressive?
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>>146663187
The movie will most likely only be in theatres for a few days like most anime movies, so very limited numbers of these guys will be out. You'll probably make a profit seeing the movie.
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>>146667735
Who cares about the opponent if you're doing a combo, and finishing it, in your first turn and he doesn't have Veiler for exhibition purposes?
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>>146667601
Nigger people stopped playing shitass Disaster Dragons the moment the structure deck for the Chaos Dragons came out. How fucking new are you? CHAOS DRAGONS (with a little help from hieratics) were the reason REDMD ended up getting limited not the shitty Disaster Dragon deck you keep dickriding for no reason
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>>146667623
Do Beaver Warrior next.
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/dng/ what happens if we get more frog cards in INOV

that thing is frighteningly powerful as is
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>>146667601
Also
>2nd most prominent dragon deck until Rulers
Fucking LMAO WEW nigger did you fall asleep when Chaos Dragons were a thing or are you one of those guys who honestly believes Chaos Dragons and Disaster Dragons were similar in anyway beyond name only?
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>>146667735
Because for all intents and purposes he could have played against fucking anything and it wouldn't have mattered unless they had fucking veiler in the hand.
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>>146667801
>You'll probably make a profit seeing the movie.
Speaking of which, I guess all BEWD shit is now worthless since the deck is now trash.
Now we wait for Sage and Ancient White Stone to drop and then we pick them up in 2017 for a petdeck.
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>>146668153
>a frog that floats and doesn't miss the timing
Ain't really fair that red-Eyes gets 3 new card, Aromas get 2 and Ayyliens/froges get only 1
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>>146668380
>he could have played against fucking anything and it wouldn't have mattered unless they had fucking veiler in the hand.
He'd die hard to any deck which uses Kaijus or Monarchs because of Stormforth.
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Who /cyberangels/ here?
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>>146668628
Yeah because you can easily take out 4 monsters with 1 Kaiju and 1 Stormforth
>b-but Slumber
He'd just defuse ABC, go insanely plus from their float effects and then be ready to contact fuse your shit up next turn.
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>>146667623
It was never on the field for more than 2 turns, also its effect should be:

Chanting Mystical Elf
LIGHT/Spellcaster/Level 4/800 ATK/2000 DEF
You can target 1 other face-up monster you control; it gains ATK equal to this card's ATK, and if it does, this card's ATK becomes 0. This effect can only be used once while this card is face-up on the field.
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>>146668628
It doesn't really matter because the webm was clearly meant to show off the wombo combo and not anything else.
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>>146668628
That wouldn't work at all, as he'd just banish Omega beforehand and then split ABC in response to Slumber/Stormforth
and then you get fucked in the ass because you HAVE to get rid of Crystal Wing because ABC is coming back next turn with 2 Omegas no matter what you do, and you don't want a Crystal Wing on top of that.
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>>146667876
>>146668228
You'll get the point about Chaos Dragons since I forgot about that deck for some reason and mentioning them made me remember the Future Fusion combos.
Still doesn't change the fact that BEWD still isn't as strong as other dragon decks in their prime making it weak to getting powercreeped to shit.
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>>146667623
me gusta. I wish they didn't have a complete retard designing the Yugi retrains. Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to turn every iconic monster into a mini archetype support? You can't fit all that shit into one deck.

Yugi's deck is alphabet soup, it should have a bunch of individually powerful cards that work together in abstract ways.
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>>146668625
2 new frog cards could completely break the deck if they wanted, I really hope we see at least 1
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>>146659832
This deck is actually pretty fun to play since it never gets out of recources and can fuck over a lot of plays with Enemy Controler. Pretty funny to summon the XYZ-Frog for times in a round just because the opponent keeps Striking my Toad.
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Should I just sell all of my blue eyes shit? I'm holding out hope that the leak is fake, but it looks like I'm seriously gonna have to wait till 2017 AND fight scalpers to pre-order movie tickets if I wanna play the deck.
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>>146669313
What the fuck you're still going? It's undoubtedly got more tops than Disaster Dragons just by virtue of being in the Top 3 of decks being played in the current metagame. Disaster Dragons were never top of anything and were always just a rogue deck. It's a little funny that you're bringing up these so called "facts" when this all started because you made the bold ass claim that Disaster was better than Blue-Eyes with absolutely no evidence to support it.

As for other decks, I think we both know that Blue-Eyes is better than Hieratics, and definitely not as good as Dragon Rulers, but I'd have to go and check results for Chaos Dragons back in 2012, but I can say that I'm pretty confident in saying that Blue-Eyes edges them out as well given that Chaos Dragons only lasted for one format, while Blue-Eyes has lasted for at least 2.
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>>146669702
Yes.
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What burgerstomos should I run? I never played them before so I figured I just now get into them
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>>146669702
Keep it as a fun petdeck
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Jewnami actually does it again
This meta is just so fucking stale
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>>146669727
>I think we both know that Blue-Eyes is better than Hieratics, and definitely not as good as Dragon Rulers, but I'd have to go and check results for Chaos Dragons back in 2012, but I can say that I'm pretty confident in saying that Blue-Eyes edges them out as well given that Chaos Dragons only lasted for one format, while Blue-Eyes has lasted for at least 2.
This fucking dragon is one hell of a drug.
No wonder Tewart is delaying it for as long as possible.
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>>146669076
Fuck you, that's just a bad card.


>>146667623
Chanting Mystical Elf
LIGHT/4/Spellcaster 800/2000
You can Normal Summon this card in face-up Defense Position. During EACH Standby Phase: Place 1 Chant Counter on this card (max: 2) If this card has 2 Chant Counters all monsters you control gain 800 ATK and DEF. If a monster you control would be destroyed, you can remove 1 Chant Counter from this card instead.
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>>146670065
>we'll never have a meta as diverse as CORE ever again.
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>>146667623
>>146668060
>>146669076
>>146669502
>>146670374
Suggestions?

I couldn't find a better Beaver Warrior picture.
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>>146670374
It's the actual effect of the card you dipshit.
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Card_Appearances:Mystical_Elf
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>>146670419
Wut?
CORE meta was just triangle bullshit Shaddolls, BA, and Qliphorts. Satellars knocked on the door a couple times but eh, no one really cared too much about them

You're either talking about post-CROS and post-Releaser ban meta with Nekroz, Shaddolls, BA, Qliphorts, Ritual Beasts, Satellars, and rogue tops by Yosenju/Yang Zings/Volcanics OR HAT format where just about anything topped
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>>146663187
The worst part is blue eyes shit won't even go down. It'll rise because everyone is hoarding it for 2017. I would love to play this meme deck but I'm not paying 300 burgers for an awful deck.
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>>146669727
So BEWD has gotten more tops than Disaster Dragons and Hieratics and could match Chaos Dragons.
If the only Dragon deck to surpass it is truly Dragon Rulers, I don't even want to imagine what would happen if they were either unbanned and combined with Blue-eyes or if Konami prints a new dragon like Alternative.
No wonder they made Neo BEUD so shit and gave Chaos MAX that shit ritual spell, they don't want this deck breaking shit like D-rulers did back in 2013.
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>>146670625
You don't need to. Have my shitty budget BEWD deck.

Just remove the Blue-Eyes Spirit and Stone of Ancients.
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>>146670583
I know that. It just that when you make a retrain, you IMPROVE on the original.
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>>146671127
This is just painful to look at but somehow Alternative would have made it look better.
>movie theaters won't be as decorated as Japanese theaters
There is literally nothing good from this, If Eric Stuart and Dan Green aren't casted, DSoD is going to be absolute trash.
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>>146670497
>(You can Normal Summon this card in face-up Defense Position.) While you control 2 or more Defense Position monsters: Defense Position monsters you control gain 500 ATK and DEF for each Defense Position monster you control.

Pair this with a modified >>146669076
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>>146671510
Are you trying to tell me you're not excited for BURÜAIZU KAOSU MAKKUSU DORAGON
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>>146662216

Counter fairy.dek is shit until we get ties of brethren.
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>>146671127
You're the guy who drew his Black Rose aren't you
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>>146671784
>didnt cover name at the top
heheh, you're getting hacked now, nerd
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>>146671954
I honestly think Card of Demise matters much more than Ties does.
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>>146672129
It was a tag duel, that wasn't me.
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I think I finally may have fixed my stupid fucking pet deck. Are we expecting a banned list anytime soon?
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>it's a /dng/ falls for week-old fakes on zodiac episode
The full picture was cropped, there were numerous indications that this is a ruse lads
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>>146672032
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>>146672228

Ties gives you basically instant access to the relevant fairies (also lets you dump say an aria/barrier statue on the field. maybe even maiden of paradise lost if you're feeling jank since you may draw into a quickplay from artemis)
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>>146666814
Cubics are top shit man, sorry to break it to you.
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>>146672806
Sometime in November.
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>>146671713
Changed the effect just a little.

Name?
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>>146672882
10 out of 10, would buy a playset.
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Anyone got a neo new Felgrand.dek from the structure deck cards?
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>Got like five Sages in a row over the last few weeks
>Scramble to get BEWD ready for locals but fail, simply not enough copies of Where Arf Thou
>Play boring ass Monarchs
>Get top cut, split the packs, pull another Sage
>I now have 6

Aside from finishing BEWD ASAP so I can start pulling non-BEWD related stuff (Fuck off, ghost of Kaiba, sabotaging my pulls), when do I sell my spare playset of Sages? Will the deck spike after the Felgrand deck, or will we have to wait until Alternative?
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>>146673579
Stalwart Beaver Warrior
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>>146673750
Just sell the playset whenever you want. Stop being retarded.
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>>146672864
It should have been obvious when the person who posted it didn't post the fucking source. No matter how many times I tell /dng/ to either check ygorg or whereever the fuck they get their Yugioh news, they just fucking DON'T listen and end up posting a bunch of stupid shit.

I feel really bad for the retards whose only source of news is this place.
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>Even Konami hates D/D/D
>Infernity and Dragon Rulers will forever be fucked by the list
>Spellbooks were basically irrelevant at their prime
>Odd-Eyes Magicians got cucked by pets in tutus and tiaras

CHAMPS
H
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M
P
S
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>>146673750
Sell 1 to me
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>>146673780
Done.

Next card? Try to provide artwork.
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>>146673992
>Spellbooks were basically irrelevant at their prime

What the fuck is going on with /dng/ posting complete stupid shit more than usual again? Is it just because it's Sunday and all the decent posters are at locals? Fucking Spellbooks got 2nd place at Worlds during that time you fucking pavement ape, holy shit, you fucking newfags are insufferable
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>>146674220
So you admit they were irrelevant losers (like Jack Atlas) in their prime, and you call me retarded?
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>>146674220
Most decent posters left when tripfags completely ruined the general.
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>>146673992
>Spellbooks were basically irrelevant in their prime
u fucking wot m8
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decks/Spellbook

Not to mention they took 2nd in Worlds and they would have won too, it it weren't for those meddling Blasters
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>>146674363
>getting 2nd place at Worlds and being the 2nd strongest deck in the format means they were irrelevant

Stop using words you clearly don't know and resist the urge to continue posting
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>>146674557
>just three wins

Did your mommy tell you that if her special snowflake came in second she'd give a red star for effort?
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>>146674613
>t-they lost, but that just means theyre more relevant!
dng, everyone
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>>146674767
>>146674790
Are you the same retards who were shitposting that Blue-Eyes were shit because they didn't get first place a lot and then immediately got BTFO by an avatarfag?
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>>146674926
No, but you're clearly the same butthurt autist
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>>146675054
>N-no YOU'Re b-b-b-butthurt

OK fag
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>>146674926
No. I clearly recognize the potential of dragon archetypes. It is more likely you're on the idiots who keep posting about Dark Magicians being meta. Isn't it funny how DM will be cucked by BE just like Spellbooks were by Rulers?
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>>146675485
I love how you keep trying to change the argument every time you get BTFO. Try and keep on track. This wasn't about anything else other than you trying to say that Spellbooks were irrelevant, when they were in fact the 2nd best deck of the format. I'll let you keep shitposting about how 2nd place isn't 1st place as much as you want, but as a Mexican intellectual, I want you to try REALLY hard to focus on the main argument and not go off track, ok?
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>>146675464
>still replying
lol y u mad tho?
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>>146675987
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/out/
>>>/reddit/
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>>146675809
You changed the argument the first by bringing up Blue-Eyes. I made an equally likely assertion as the one you did. I'm literally mirroring your logic, or whoever else is defending Spellbooks. You would probably have no trouble admitting Ritual Beats were irrelevant at their prime despite their sprinklings of wins, but you cling to Spellbooks.

I understand you're a spoiled little white goy who grew up being raised by a strong mother and an effeminate father, but try to understand that unless you win you lose. The entire concept "topping" an event is the equivalent of my cousin in Kindergarten receiving a sticker of a star for trying.
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>>146674387
Most decent posters were tripfags retard

I miss Blu
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>>146675485
>Isn't it funny how DM will be cucked by BE just like Spellbooks were by Rulers?
This is some kind of pottery
>both DM and Spellbooks lose hard as fuck to bricking
>both DM and Spellbooks use Ghost Destroyer for cockblocking
>both DM and Spellbooks got cucked by their rival dragon decks i.e Blue-eyes and Rulers
Now if only Blue-eyes got dragons which summoned themselves by banishing/discarding like Rulers did and then it could be an exact mirror of how it was 3 years ago.
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>>146675485
Will he? If we're actually not getting Alt until 2017, both decks will get rekt by the current meta.
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>>146676306
I wasn't changing any argument retard, I was bringing up a relevant example of how you fags like to justify your shitposting. Again, cartel cabron, please try and follow the conversation. This was about Spellbooks, and now you're talking about how tops don't matter

It's like talking to schizophrenic. Taco Tuesdays don't happen on Sunday Paco
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>>146676585
How dumb are you? Did your single mom really fuck with your mind this hard? Here is what you said little goy, "Are you the same retards who were shitposting that Blue-Eyes were shit because they didn't get first place a lot and then immediately got BTFO by an avatarfag?"

I replied, "No. I clearly recognize the potential of dragon archetypes. It is more likely you're on the idiots who keep posting about Dark Magicians being meta."

The first sentence is a direct response to your assertion that I have posted negative comments about Blue-Eyes. I made an equally baseless remark on your posting history in regards to Dark Magicians. This is literally the same thing.

Talking about the concept of topping is extremley relevent to a discussion on Spellbooks. Spellbooks only won (1st place, goy) three times at their prime. That is not impressive it all.

Also, whats with the Mexican obsession? Is it from watching your single white mother cuck your father by sleeping with brown and black men your entire childhood?
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>>146677089
You seem to have an affinity for bringing up cucking and single motherhood, and while I will not judge your lifestyle, I'd appreciate if you didn't project your own insecurities onto me

That being said,
>Talking about the concept of topping is extremley relevent to a discussion on Spellbooks. Spellbooks only won (1st place, goy) three times at their prime. That is not impressive it all.
This is because they weren't the best deck of the format you gigantic retard. No one is arguing that Spellbooks WON a ton of events. Once again, I have to FORCE you to bring it back to the topic of you claiming that Spellbooks were irrelevant when they simply weren't. I don't know what the air is like down in Mexico, but I'd advise you to start wearing a gas mask if its making you THIS schizophrenic. Listen, if you want to turn this into a discussion about whether winning an event is more important than simply consistently topping events then go right ahead, but since the main discussion stemmed from Spellbooks being "irrelevant" despite very clearly being part of the meta at the time, then I'd either have to urge you to resist posting on the topic (since you're clearly wrong) or just take my earlier advice and talk about something else
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>>146678263
How were they relevant if the only thing they did consistently was lose?


You keep bringing up ethnicity so I posted negative stereotypes about white men. Namely that they are effeminate cucks raised by single mothers who told them they were special snowflakes, and that in competition only the effort matters. I will refrain from making these sorts of comments further, but you are right about being the air in Mexico being off. It has been for twenty years when over half of the manufacturing plants in the United States (enjoying your retail job, goy?) moved to Mexico. However, I am eagerly awaiting your explanation of how Spellbooks were relevant.
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If i tribute summon Tyrant of Neptune by using a Phantom of chaos who copied a name, will i be able to target the "original" monster or will Neptune get the Phantom of Chaos effect?
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>>146679165
>When this card is Tribute Summoned: Target 1 Effect Monster in the Graveyard that was Tributed for the Tribute Summon

It clearly asks for the tributed monster, you idiot.
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>accidentally deleted GimmickPuppet.dek
>remade it from the ground up
>tfw looks better than it did before
Anybody wanna help me test this? Hosting match now, ygopro dng vidya
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>>146678926
So you DO want to turn this into a discussion about whether winning entire events matters more than consistently topping events, good, we're actually making some headway. You did it in a very heavy handed, but it's progress regardless.

>However, I am eagerly awaiting your explanation of how Spellbooks were relevant.
Because enough players brought the deck to events in order to compete against Dragon Rulers. Simple as that. I know since you were still a newbud who was still speaking dirty mestizo Spanish at the time, you didn't actually get to experience the format, but for everyone else that did, they would easily tell you that Spellbooks were just about the only deck capable of competing against Rulers. You could argue that Evilswarms also had a chance but it was no where near as much as Spellbooks. This dynamic plays itself out beautifully in Worlds 2013 with the top two decks there being, you guessed it, Dragon Rulers and Spellbooks. While yes, Rulers did end up coming out on top, that doesn't mean that Spellbooks were "irrelevant" simply because they couldn't win entire events. This just shows your lack of understanding of how competitions in card games actually works. If I could you an example (REMEMBER THIS IS AN EXAMPLE MEXICAN INTELLECTUAL, I'M DOING THIS TO DRAW A CONNECTION TO MY CONCLUSION SO DON'T GO OFF ON A TANGENT ABOUT THIS ONE) if we go by your metric of decks only being relevant when they win events then that would mean that rare outliers like Geargia during Ruler format (the September one not the March one) and Inzektors during Mermail format were also relevant decks when they rarely topped during that time and won those events simply off of flukes. If you start denying that then you concede the point that winning an event makes a deck relevant.

This is simply how most competitive card games function. Tiers, or otherwise metagame relevance, is determined mainly by representation in actual tournaments.
(cont)
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>>146679950
Hurry up and start Nil
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You get to choose one card that isn't an archetype member and Konami will design support/an archetype around it.

What card do you choose?
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>>146680012
This is exactly why I brought up the Blue-Eyes example earlier. It's true, Blue-Eyes actually very rarely wins entire events in Japan (even though it does in fact happen) but that doesn't actually factor into how relevant the deck is to the OCG metagame. It's more to do with the fact that enough people feel the deck is good enough to play for tournaments, and so therefore, people played it at tournaments

It's very simple. So again, to come back to my conclusion, Spellbooks weren't irrelevant because people felt that they could play them and do well at what ever event they went to, and usually they did, with Spellbook decks consistently making it into the Top 4, Top 8, and Top 16 extremely consistently. I know that you're once again going to make a contention that B-BUT TOPS DON'T ACTUALLY MATTER, please keep in mind that you're wrong again.

Just to emphasize my point, tiers (aka meta relevance) are determined by representation. If a lot of people bring a certain deck to an event because they feel they have the best chances to win with that deck, then yes, that makes the deck "meta" and therefore relevant to the metagame

I hope this discussion has enlightened you somewhat and makes your days down in the Mexican ghetto somehow a little more tolerable my Corona comrade. Stay safe from that Cartel, I hear that shit is super serious down there
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Possible new Shaddoll Support in the future?
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>>146680543
Silver Fang
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How do I get into Traptrix?
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That ching chong counter is better than stellarnova alpha and searchable

Yet tellarknights still aren't allowed to search for their counter trap
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Do Yang Zings still suck? I really want the deck to be good
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>>146602128
>new Yang Zing support
Holy shit, I'm so happy. I really like that deck and never felt like it got all it needed to really shine, so at least they haven't completely forgot about us,
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>>146681501
As long as they miss the timing, they will always be bad.
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Purple Eyes Gray Dragon when
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>>146680543
>Exemplar will now have two (2) retrains in addition to her Synchro
>meanwhile, Arcanite hasn't been seen since Supreme and is now only used as removal by the few decks that can barely get out the base form
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>retards thinking a movie promo would leak 8 months before release
IM FUCKING DONE
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>>146680543
This guy


>>146682102
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>>146682341
It's the Mexican air man I tell you, too many people being affected by it
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>>146682391
>tfw we get a rank 5 engine based off of dragon and beast
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>>146681026
Summon one monster set 3 demise then pass
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>>146680543
Alchemic Magician or Northwemko.
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Now THIS is true memeing
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Rehosting, Atmos. Either that was on my end or yours, but one of us DCed.
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>>146682852
>cupidity in aliens
Lol
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

IT ANNOYS ME THAT FALLING METEOR'S EFFECT ONLY DOES HALF DAMAGE
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What happens if I use Trapeze or Shark Fortress on something like Cyber Twein?
Do I get 3 attacks off it now or what?
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>>146683003
You seriously wanted Red-Eyes to have even MORE retarded burn damage?
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>>146682965
>not putting cupidity in everything
??????????
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>>146681026
1 raffle
0/2 dio
3 myrm
1 BTH
0/1 treacherous
2 time space

throw it in another deck and enjoy
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>>146683003
>go first
>red-eyes fusion into falling meteor, burn for 1250
>activate double Inferno Fire Blast
>gg

Yes, lets make red-eyes even easier to cheese with.
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>>146683151
Cupidity doesn't work for every deck.
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>>146683138
YES
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>>146683317
>>146683138
>being salty about burn
lmao@urlife
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>>146683531
>Meteor suddenly has 2400 original ATK
l-lol?
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>>146683638
DISREGARD THAT.
I just remembered that Red-eyes Fusion turns the name into Red-eyes Black Dragon and Inferno Fire Blast works with anything called Red-eyes Black Dragon.
Even so, good luck getting that off consistently.
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>>146683774
>draw one of 6 fusions in a deck with shitloads of draw power
>if I happen to have multiple fireblasts in hand as well, I immediately end the duel right there
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>>146683324
Do you REALLY want to turn this thread into another episode of "Cupidity does in fact work in every deck and I will prove this by posting a shitton of images of rogue decks that it works in" AGAIN? Do you really wanna go down that route after we just got down with the Spellbook shitposting?
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>>146684587
Not every deck runs Necroface
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>Djinn Releaser of Rituals forbidden only in TCG

come on guys
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>>146684760
Not every deck needs to run Necroface retard, people have been topping with Cupidity for fucking months now how new are you?
http://ygodr.blog.jp/
(Protip: the tag for Cupidity is "壺")
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>>146682102
Ethereal Phantom Dragon when?
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Hey can someone help me out here, someone posted this image a couple of threads ago but im not following a part of the combo, it says i need to suicide the Exa-Beetle to get another Malicious to the grave to trigger its effect but Exa-Beetle's effect needs to target a card on the oponents side of the field, so is this combo assumed for turn 2 only then or am i missing something?
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>>146683774
>left arm offering into 3500 inferno fire blast
whers ur smirk now, cunt?
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Red Eyes FTK cheese deck Tier 0?
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>>146682852
>no mausoleum
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>>146682852
>true memeing
>no shapesnatch
>no beaver warrior
>no Fusionist
Are you even trying?
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>>146683896
Should I start maining fire blasts
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Anyone have a synchro Blue-Eyes build that can make Sifr?
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>>146685952
>literally dies to side decking.
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>>146684587
the good decks that run cupidity are turbo decks with already good consistency. Slow shitty tier3 decks like ayylmaos can't utilize the +1 off cupidity the same way D/D can.
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>>146686384
THAT'S IT

You opened the floodgates. I hope you're happy. Time for another round of "Can it run Cupidity?"
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>>146686532
>posts a deck with already good consistency
I knew you were autistic, but apparently you're also illiterate.
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>>146686532
>upstart at 3
Lol
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>>146686532
>>146686641
How the fuck do Cyber Angels have good consistency when they barely top you retard?
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>>146686532
Team memes!
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>it's a bootyblasted pot of cupidity episode
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>>146686768
Holy shit if anything you're just making an argument about Cupidity making a deck even more consistent without even realizing it, holy shit
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Is Frogcontrol meta?
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>>146682860
My screen froze after internet crashed, sorry mate
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>>146686768
He probably means that they can search out all their useful pieces before playing cupidity, since the deck has a billion searchers.
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>>146685553
Anyone?
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>>146686126
Depends. Are you running at least two Red-Eyes Fusions?
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>>146686970
>>146686928
>look at all these decks that run Cupidity
>it's obviously a shitty card
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>>146687167
Where did i say it was a bad card? All I said was you were assblasted.
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>>146686532
that build looks like trash, with or without cupidity.
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>>146687167
Literally every deck you've posted has better consistency than Aliens.

Congrats, you played yourself.
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>>146687026
Just about any deck that isn't complete shit can play Cupidity because it searches in one way or another. It's arguable that Aliens are in the same boat since they can "search" or at least deck thin with "A" Cell Recombination Device
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>>146687126
So yes? And here I thought Inferno Fire Blast was just a trash tek card.
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Pot of Cupidity is easily one of the worst cards in TDIL. It'll be bumped to a secret and retards like you will buy three of them at $50 to play in Daddy's Dandy Dicks even without the cards from the structure deck.
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>>146687373
Reminder that even SMRIII finally hopped on the Cupidity train and the only deck that has yet to fall in line with the meme dream is fucking Monarchs
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>>146687629
>hoban tops
>he doesn't run pot of cupidity
>all the investors lose hundreds in worthless cardboard bookmarks
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>>146687743
>hoban
>topping
Fucking LOL please PLAY the game sometime scrublord, Hoban hasn't topped a relevant event for months now
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>>146687571
Like I said. It depends. It's a very situational combo and the card can't be searched with Insight. On the other hand, it if t does work, that's 3500 damage.
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I know it hasn't been brought up a lot but this "Dark Synchro" deck has actually been topping quite a bit in these last few months and it's all bee thanks to Cupidity and also Omega not being fucking limited for whatever reason, but it's mostly Cupidity
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>>146686281
Here's an old synchro based build I had in mind but it never really went anywhere.
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So why the fuck can neo new Meteor Dragon be used as material from the deck, while Archfiend of Lightning cannot? Who the fuck dropped the ball?
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what are some reasons that nummeronia will never be printed?
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>>146687934
>jeff jones tops with cupidity

calling it now
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>>146688231
RE Meteor Dragon is a level 6 dragon in the deck.
RE Archfiend of Lightning is not a normal monster in deck.

You should try reading, and thinking about the words you read.
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>>146688231
Did you read the cards?
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>>146687629
>will buy three of them at $50 to play
With how stupid the TCG community is, I doubt it.
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>>146688382
>>146688407
I think he means "why does archfiend black skull have such shitty fusion materials"
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>>146688427
I meant $50 a piece instead of all three for $50. Just to clarify.
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>>146688382
>>146688407
I know that, because of BDA, you can't use archfiend from the deck.

I'm asking WHY it was designed in such a way.
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>>146688160
W O R L D S
O
R
L
D
S
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Stun deck that very rarely searches fucking killing the "only decks that can search heavily can play Cupidity" meme
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Fixed my Red-Eyes build, but now I don't have space for Gospel/Dragon Shrine. help
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>>146688231
Because Black Sull requires a normal Archfiend monster. This completely screws any synergy with Gemini since they are not considered Normal in the deck.

Which was honestly a retarded choice. Its effect is amazing but needing to use Summoned Skull is a pain in the ass.
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>>146688595
They probably didn't realize that Geminis were going to be a thing in a couple sets so they never thought of it, or possibly some retard in RnD ACTUALLY thought Geminis count as Normal monsters in the deck.

Konami plans certain things but not everything. Just like how no one planned for Cupidity to be as good as it turned out to be
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>>146688717
What card(s) are to the left of MST?
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Two questions. Is Cupidity worth it in a Zombie World deck, and is Dragon's Mirror worth running just for Dragonecro?
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>>146688812
>They probably didn't realize that Geminis were going to be a thing *again in a couple sets
Whoops

>>146688837
>Two questions. Is Cupidity worth it in a Zombie World deck
Cupidity is worth it in every deck, especially Zombies
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>Duel this guy a few times on percy
>asks for my deck
>sure
>then this

Lel.
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>>146688824
Dark Dragon Ritual, because of Pre-Preparation of Rites/Paladin of Dark Dragon can Summon REDMD from the deck.
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>>146688595
'Cause they thought it'd be too OP otherwise.
Then when they found it it was actually shit, they changed Meteor Black Dragon's material from "1 Level 6 Dragon-Type Normal Monster" to "1 Level 6 Dragon-Type monster". :^)
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>>146688160
Wrong deck build.
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>>146689075
Oh yeah, pixelated card art fucked me over there.
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>>146689008
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>spend all of yesterday trying to make good and fun red-eyes
>today, give up and make this juvenile bullshit
>somehow works better
should I kill myself y/n
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>>146689060
Do these people not save replays?
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>just notice that the Cupidity line has been changed back

So THAT'S why there's so many people doubting Cupidity again
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>>146688717
Technically, you only need 2 paladins since Pre-Preparation will search it even if it is on the Graveyard.
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>>146689239
This looks like something you'd see top in OCG, good job.
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>>146689239
seems pretty straightforward
>draw until fusion
>spam fire blasts
>Win
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>"overlords" unironically run gale dogra to pay 6k (6000) LP to search 2 cards off herald
>"LPs d-dont matter.. i'd pay 8000 to s-search 1 card! ..o-overlords! please take me with you.."

>"overlords" run cupidity in every deck, making every duel an anime style heart-of-the-cards-fest.
>"w-wow! cupidity is the best card e-ever! it makes any deck g-good! overlords for l-life!"

>in reality the decks that top with cupidity only did so because all the other decks that run cupidity banished the cards they need and drew shit
>"y-you can never draw bad in this game! look at all the t-tops!"

please give me (you)s saying im wrong because "overlords" are the best and cupidity has absolutely no downsides.
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>>146689060
He plays in tags sometimes.
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>>146688148
I hopethis deck does well over here

Seems like a really neat deck
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>everyone used to meme about how Red-Eyes Fusion was a shit card not worth running
>now it's a cornerstone of the deck

also rank 6 red-eyes when?
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>>146688837
Still wondering about the Dragonecro thing
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>>146689881
You can do rank 6 Ultimaya stuff with Red Eyes
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>>146689060
Shadownil is pretty autistic sometimes, even in the tags
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People say to use Dragluon in the mirror but this card completely shits on the opponent in the mirror, and is safe if you bring out Azure-Eyes after it from everything.
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>>146690075
I could smell his fedora through the chat.
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>pot of cupidity gets banned in the future
>komoney makes pot of anta baka (translated pot of stupidity) that banishes 10 from deck and 1 from hand face-down
>people still run it, still gets banned
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>>146690116
Except Dragulon completely locks the mirror from playing anything and it also works as a snatch steal.
All Twin Burst does ie remove things it battles with.
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>>146690203
Pot of cupidity should have banished 15 and then people would really struggle whether to use it or not.
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>>146690116
>Alternative was made as an improvement over the original
>Neo BEUD was made as an "improvement" over the original and it's a fusion of 3 Alternative Dragons
>There is no Blue-eyes Ultimate Burst Dragon as an the worthy evolution of Twin Burst
>There is no Blue-eyes Twin Dragon as the original dragon Twin Burst was meant to improve on.
The hell is Konami or Kaz doing with this archetype? The lore of it is all over the place.
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>>146688618
>very rarely searches
You search spells and traps with Ophion though
>>146688717
Is the burn trap a shit card or could it potentially see some use in this deck?
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>>146690203
>>146690564
Pot of Rapacity FUCKING WHEN
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>>146690398
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>>146690776
ONE (1) Extra Deck card searching S/Ts (that build only running 1 of each by the way) is not the same as being able to search for maindeck monsters which Evilswarm barely has and yet it STILL ran Cupidity

Rarely is not the same as not at all Atmos, pick up a dictionary
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>>146689435
Nice, I will put at least 1x Gospel then.

>>146690776
Red-Eyes Burn it's hard to activate and give you damage too.
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>>146690906
I never understood Dragulon.
Was it Mizael's servant which died but got reincarnated into an old man and then it went to Kaito after he beat it or was it never dead, but turned into an old man and waited for somebody to take him back to Mizael?
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>>146689060
>guys I made my gimmick puppet deck better, come help me test
>gets buttmad when I 2-0 him with Symphonic Speedroids and rehosts with his banish stun deck
>proceed to 1-1 with Shiranui and d/c because of my shitty internet
Pretty sure I would have won the 3rd game, but even so he is a salty motherfucker
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>>146691098
It's Zexal, half the shit it happened didn't make sense.
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>>146680543
Frog the Jam
Red-Eyes B. Chick
Sky Scout
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I hate when someone wins on having an idea, but Lithium Frog Ultimaya seem to be the most powerful build

I just wish that Treatoad had more powerful monsters to summon. You can summon Dupes for a lock, Swap to send shit to grave, Flip Flop on your main phase to return the shit your opponent set on field or get rid of Kozmo, and Des Frog to send to grave with Quickraw for Ultimaya. But ultimately nothing that really pays for itself.
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This will probably be it for me, I'm starting to get bored and tired. Learn your less, pot of rapacity when, etc etc etc
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>>146691043
To be fair, the deck does revolve around bringing out the card in question and searching the spell in question as consistently and quickly as possible, so saying it rarely searches isn't really accurate. The goal of the deck is make kaiju magnet and search every game.
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>>146691043
If you really want to get technical, the term "rarely" was interpreted in terms of how often cards in the deck are searched. You never did specify whether monsters were being searched or how many cards were doing the searching.
>>146691090
Damn, so then its not worth it
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Is Dragonecro worth running in a Zombie World deck of I have Dragon's Mirror?
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>>146691176
At least the visuals were good.
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>>146691176
What's the more nonsensical series?
GX or Zexal
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>>146691150
He summoned Seven Sins with his Gimmick Puppets.

So I cipher'd it and turned it into a dragon.

Then we dueled again and he was using his banish deck. I won Game 1, lost game 2, and then had him down to 100lp in game 3 but scooped it up because I self-negged with Lancelot because I forgot it was mandatory. Lel.

We dueled a few more times and he started asking for my deck list after complaining it was lame and boring when he was playing Greydle-Kaiju.

I told him yeah sure, after this game, but he was like "No give it to me now."

I told him not to rush me and he scooped up, so I was like "alright whatever, here's deck."

But I guess he actually was salty I kept beating him. What a goofy goober.
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>>146691043
Evilswarm are basically a turbo deck, they only need any 2 level 4's in hand and then set anything else they draw. They just replaced the upstarts in their deck with cupiditys which is a straight upgrade.
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>>146688618
>the sheer amount of oh god Jesus please fuck open a way to make Opphion
Let's take a step back before we take Ophion or bust dek as an example of regular stun
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>>146669792
3 Pikaia
3 Hallucigenia
3 Oloneides
3 Canadia
2 Dinomischus
2 of the one that returns banished cards
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>>146691441
6/11 decks here run cupidity, it got ran less as time went on, 2 of those 6 only ran 1 copy.
is ABC topping because of cupidity? i doubt it.
cupidity is the card of demise of the OCG, except with arguably less downsides.
>>146662512

>>146692061
id say
3 pikaia
3 dinomischus
3 canadia
2 marrella
2 hallucigenia
2 leanchoilla
1-2 olenoides.
i prefer using twitwi over olenoides, but i do run it as a searchable MST..
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>>146672882
tfw dyspraxic
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>>146692626
Is he legal anywhere but Australia?
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>>146692626

WHO the fuck are you?
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>>146691413
Clever girl.
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>>146687934
I remember people giving me shit for running the ritual field spell and now look, the nips are doing it too lmao
>/dng/ in charge of predicting anything right
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>>146694190
Fixed your image
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Anyone got a Cubic deck that's playable?
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>>146694842

cubic and playable can't be used on the same sentence
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>>146694812
he must get a lot of bitches
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>>146694890
Well, relatively speaking. Doesn't need to be pure either
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>>146695156
unlike you haha
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>>146694842
>>146694890
>>146695301
Uh....
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>>146692596
I'm not too keen on Dinomischus, I generally want to save my discards for Pikaia. As for Marella, I did run 2 but I cut it for a Frog/Wetlands engine. I run more of a deep draw trap variant with Accumulated Fortune and whatnot, and I just feel these ratios work best - for me at least. Whatever floats your boat.
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>>146673579
Louise, the Beaver Warrior
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>>146695550
>14 spells
>Summoner Monk
am I missing something here, or are you just bad at deckbuilding?
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>>146695384
yeah same
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>>146695550
Is Frog the Vijam actually any good?
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>>146674179
Couldn't find any art for it, just make him a Union monster.
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>>146696505
Fuck forgot pic
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>haven't slept for two days
>start a duel on Pro
>T2, make a field of ABC-Dragon Buster, Utopia the Lightning and CDI
>as I'm about to OTK my opponent, I say GG
>opponent isn't replying
>look up at his name
>[AI]Impulse
>turns out I was dueling the AI all along
mfw
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>>146695856
Its gimmicky, but it works for me, also functions as Nova fodder and protection for people who can't read once you've baited Crystal Wing already
>>146695731
Read Duja and each of those spells very carefully and then come back and try thinking about what you can do with them.
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>>146695557
if dinomischus's discard was restricted to burg only like pikaia, then i could see running at 2.

>playing this deck against x-sabers
>they activate gottoms emergency call
>negate it with treatoad
>he leaves emmersblade on the fiel
>use gottoms emergency call on my turn to special summon pashul and gottoms, special summon burg off GEC activation
>make crumble logos and attack for game

that was probably one of the absolutely sackiest things ive done, im glad GEC has such an open activation condition.
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Will Chaos blue eyes ever be a thing? I know with CED still not having an errata in TCG that'll never happen here.
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>>146696745
did you seriously not understand what I meant after reading my post? holy shit, you're even dumber than I thought!
i'll explain it to you for the hell of it: you shouldn't be using summoner monk in a deck with a 21/14 ratio, that's common sense
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>>146696745
>it works for me
I thought this was just a meme.

People actually say this to justify their shitty shit?
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>>146697046
They've been saying it for years my man, how new are you?
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>>146697046
But anon if I play a card and I find that card useful, I will continue to run it until I find it not to be useful. Vijam may not be "good", but I like playing the deck like this regardless of how bad it is. So yes in a way it does work to justify playing shit cards
>>146696973
>am I missing something here, or are you just bad at deckbuilding?
You didn't really imply anything except for questioning my deckbuilidng, also are you pulling the summoner monk "ratios" out of your ass or do non-autists actually use this as well?
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>>146696973
its not as bad as it seems.
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+1 post
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>>146697498
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>>146697405
you obviously didn't read the entire post
that's not surprising
>also are you pulling the summoner monk "ratios" out of your ass
you're only supposed to use summoner monk in spell heavy decks like heroes or else it becomes an unreliable card
but hey, keep using your suboptimal techs for all I care
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>>146695550
What's the spell next to Reasoning?
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