/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

reminder that bloodborne has its own general and doesn't belong here

>>146400320

Reposting:
>testing the length of UGS hitboxes vs their actual model

>Greatsword has the longest model
>but the hitbox only extends to the end of the flat part of the blade on most attacks
>Farron and Astora GS are tied for the longest hitboxes despite having different sized models
>Zweihander has the same range as the Greatsword, Profaned GS and BK UGS
>Lorians' GS has the same range as the Cathedral Knight GS and Lothric Knight GS, despite being the shortest model by a longshot

I didn't test the FUGS yet but I don't think there will be any surprises there.

Long story short, there are only 3 hitbox sizes for UGS attacks because they just copypasted hitbox data between the different weapons instead of sizing the hitbox dimensions to each weapon size. Some UGS gain extra range that extends beyond the tip of their weapon because of this, while others lose range and have an inert part of their model that the hitbox doesn't extend to. All these tests were conducted using the 1HR1. We started out testing every move in the moveset of each weapon but were finding really confusing outliers so we ditched that in favour of just testing the one attack consistent across all UGS movesets. Given our final data, were able to account for the outliers when we realized that some unique attacks had only 1 hitbox size that was copypasted between the weapons that use them. For example, the Zweihander's 2HR2 uses the same animation as the Astora Greatsword's 2H rolling attack and also uses the exact same hitbox, so on that one attack, the effective range extends notably beyond the end of the weapon.

It isn't like this for any weapon below ultra-size, which means that the dev team evidently placed such low priority in the design and balance of UGS that they just rushed through with a quick copy/paste job instead of putting proper work into their hitboxes.

REAL NEW THREAD HERE

>>146417136
>>146417136
>>146417136

>>146418872
This one was first.

Any tips for a sorcerer? I want to raise it to SL 60-80 mainly for invasions

>>146418748
Reminder you're a gigantic faggot

Is it possible to get all gestures in one NG? Primarily referring to Heysel, Yuria and Pale Shade and their interactions

>>146419041
No.

>>146418872
fuck off lucy
this was posted in the old thread over a minute before yours

>>146419005
fuck off lucy

>>146418909
>18:45
>other one is 18:27

>>146418872
That is the official fagcore thread.
Fags are to use that thread instead of this one.

All gwyndolin, lothric/lorian, 4kings, dragon, gargoyle, western art and tumblr posts are to go there.

Please do your part in keeping the proper /dsg/ thread fag-free by dumping your garbage in the official fagcore containment thread.

>>146419109
>this one was linked first

>>146419109
>18:27
>thread made 15 minutes before the thread hit bump limit
Fuck off lucy.

>>146419041

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4l9hob/psa_you_can_get_all_gestures_in_a_single_ng/

What's a good SL to stop at for DS3?

>>146418673
>proper op
AMEN
>>146419109
>making it way too early
Even more invalid

>Dead Again doesn't work on corpses if you're an invader unless the host is using a seed

why

>>146418865
Interesting
Nice work, although it's a bummer to know that even the hitboxes of the weapons themselves are identical
Makes me wish DS3 wasn't as rushed as it seemingly was,

>>146419442
SL120

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>>146418865

I knew the Profaned GS hitbox was fucked up, especially since I've seen multiple cases where the tip of the weapon hits people with 2HR2s yet doesn't actually count as a hit. These hitboxes are just idiotic.

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post them

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>>146420025
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>>146420025

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>dueling pontiff with red hilt halberd build
>opponent using straight sword + pyro + full thorn armor
>keeps casting even though nothing ever touches me
>sips mana and keep casting
>keeps rolling away
>start using some sitting down gestures out of frustration
>keeps doing it anyway, rolling all over the place
>summon someone to show him even further that it's getting old
>end up killing him by starting to take voluntary hits
what the fuck is your strategy when this happens ? nothing gets me as mad as that

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>>146420025

>some weapons, particularly ultras, become instantly techable after the 2nd R1 of a combo, often giving the person being hit a frame advantage as they recover faster than the person who hit them
>most weapons smaller that ultras are not instantly techable after the 2nd R1, and only reduce hitstun by a tiny, tiny amount, literally just enough to roll out before a 3rd hit connects and still usually leaving the person that was hit at a frame disadvantage.
Why do they continue to make stupid little mechanical bungles like this?

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>>146420025

>>146420535

tahts why i dont summon mages anymore

yeah your blue shit is really cute and all but you will literally never hit me and its just a waste of time

>>146420827
Because this is not a PvP game

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>>146420025

>>146420827

>and only reduce hitstun by a tiny, tiny amount, literally just enough to roll out before a 3rd hit connects

dont forget phantom range that actually forces you to roll back twice or get hit

>>146420935
>it's okay to have broken mechanics as long as we pretend we didn't care about the game
Nice!

fc w h e r e

Anyone wanna do Consumed King's garden with me on PS4?

pass is dsg place your signs right outside the doorway / before the stairs to the knight thats right out the elavator.

thanks

>>146421353
sign down

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Just got parried by SoC for the first time and goddam

>>146421756
when does he parry?

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>>146420145

tell me how to beat blighttown you niggers

>>146421980
find out if spider has puss puss

>>146421843
curved sword mode
he does it instantly even while stunned
it's kind of bullshit but at least it's rare

>>146421980
crystal shield and spider shield both 100% block poison and toxic, use them

>>146421980
Put moss up your butthole

>>146421843
He got me out of a fucking stunned state while he was using I think the curved sword

I was just beating the shit out of him and the next thing I know I'm 10 feet in the air hanging from his sword

>>146421843
When he goes full DaS PVP parody with the backflips, the curved swords and combustion. Even more amusing is that he's able to parry you while knocked down.

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>>146418673

Man I miss the DaS2 arena
It was such a great casual filter. All the shitters were too afraid of arena tryhards and stayed at iron bridge so you rarely had to deal with them, and you'd get decent to good fights within seconds of tapping a statue, with only the rare or occasional garbage player that didn't belong there. If you wanted to learn how to use a new weapon or moveset, you could go there and have everyone you encountered pull all the counters on you until you knew exactly what do to.

Pontiff's is just like the iron bridge. Whatever decent players are there are such a tiny minority compared to the trash that they're completely drowned out. I can't even go there to learn how to use a weapon because I just end up spending 2 hours stuck in some tween's fightclub 2shotting idiots that walk into my weapon and forgot to level vigor, learning nothing except that R1 hardcounters stupidity.

>>146422401
The arenas were rife with both shitters and tryhards, don't delude yourself

>>146422401
lel, the arena was 99% garbage too

>>146422692
>>146422730
t. bridgeshitters

>>146422401
Then why go to pope instead of elsewhere?

Is there a /dsg/ approved streamer?

>>146422864
That doesn't even make sense. I played BoB arena extensively and everyone was either garbage or trying their damnedest to cheese ranks. When MLG prestige auras were on the line, some dudes spared no expense to win.

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>>146420025

>>146422990
I like the PVP guy with the funny accent and the retarded laugh.

>>146422901
There is no elsewhere.
Red sign activity is 100% dead outside of pontiff's unless you get in on a private, passworded fightclub and those are usually only marginally better because they're namefag circlejerks and hugboxes.

>>146423068
>tfw easily kill Hodrick by spamming the 2h UGS lunge which stunlocks all dark spirits
i should make a video for all the people having difficulty or something

>>146423069
Gonna have to be more specific about which stupid faggot it is.

>>146423151
Highwall of lothric is the other PvP spot. Not as many signs as pontiff but you still don't really have to wait for a sign to show up

>>146423151
There are signs even at fucking anor londo bonfire, you just need to hunt for them.

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>>146423203

>>146422990
dsp and enb. and no, the few who watch them don't take them seriously

>>146420935
It certainly isn't a good PvE game either

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>>146423068
Hodrick posting

>>146423183
(You)

>>146423151
High Wall, Anor Londo Bonfire, I think I saw a couple in undead settlement too

>>146423183
You can easily kill him with anything unparryable. But where's the fun in that instead of trying to best the parry god in his own game?

do people swap to red tear stone in duels when their health is low? 20 percent attack boost is a fucking lot

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>>146420025

>>146423413
I enjoyed DSP vs DaS2 because sometimes it broke without him doing anything

>>146422990
D_Invader

>>146423545
Is the Frigid Outskirts the first time a souls game has actually broken him and made him refuse to complete content?

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>>146420025

>>146423654
Blighttown for a long while as well

Do you have to have 16 str to use MLGS's weapon art?

>>146423740
Or 12 while 2H

>>146422990
I'd be a /dsg/ approved streamer if I streamed.
The reason I never will is I have a shitty voice and its all people shit posted about when I used to stream years and years ago, and it wasn't much fun when people sit and hypothesize on your sex and age the entire time.

I have plenty of fun though and make myself laugh, I guess that's enough.

>>146423527
It's kinda tryhardy but doable. I don't care enough about success to do it.

>>146419442
125

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>>146423434
aint easy

>>146423782
What do you do anon?
I'd watch silent streams.

>>146423782
I'd watch you even if you're silent

>>146419442
80 for strengths and weaknesses meta
120-800 for superman

>>146423781

Fuck.

I have 7 strengh.

I guess I can rebirth and sacrifice some HP

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What went wrong?

>>146424162
Use the knight ring to get 12 without changing your stats

>>146419442
80 for nothing but quality and memers
120 for actual variety and viability for casters and interesting builds

>>146423434
why does that warrant giving me a (You)?
i don't understand

>>146424185
Weak PvP

>>146424196

you're a blessing anon, thanks

>>146420535
When I get that I literally just dance around them until they run out of focus.

Fucking retards.

>>146424185
bad pvp
no replay value

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>>146424127
Lol, no. Level 80 is Quality only.

>>146424185
PVP is only entertaining if it's severely broken mechanically and statistically.

>>146424552
post the picture about the broken straightswords

>>146424127
Having pvp'd extensively at 80, both duels and invasions, I think I'd advocate for 100 over 80.

The only reason I stay at 80 now is to avoid 120s since that meta is cancer, but 80 feels like it excessively limits builds that depend on more than one stat. My level 80 luck invader is basically a god because luck is so stat-efficient I can afford to gouge HP and stamina and still do tonnes of damage. Meanwhile my 80 pure strength build is forced to waste points in vitality just to hold his weapons, and as a result, has less HP and only 25 stamina, which in the language of ultra weapons is 2 swings and a roll followed by 5 seconds of passive backpedalling while I wait for stamina to regen enough to afford two swings again. Casters feel similarly limited since they need so many points in attunement on top of their offensive stat on top of still having str/dex to meet basic weapon requirements.

I think the extra 20 points going from 80 to 100 would really be of benefit to those sorts of builds.

It's a shame reddit got to pick the overleveled meta again because now we have to build around avoiding it or else deal with the DaS3 equivalent to BB's 150 builds or DaS1's 387 forest gankers.

>>146424582
then why isn't ds3 pvp the most populated?

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>>146424626
This one?

>>146424127
strengths: quality without attunement
Weakness: anything else

>>146424185
The casuals beat their flavour of the month game, got their hardcore gamer cred XD with summons, and moved on. As with every single PC release Dark Souls.

>>146424126
>>146424061

I dunno, I think my reaction to the stupid shit I do is entertaining too.

It's finger runs, themed runs, cosplay runs, FC shenanigans. It's mostly just being silly, nothing impressive or skillful. I've already challenged myself by being all the bosses solo, I don't feel the need to do anything more than that.

Demon's Souls
>World/Character Tendency
>You are the boss
>First game in this series

Dark Souls
>Poise introduced
>Weapons and armors expanded greatly
>Covenants introduced
>Open world and cohesive

Dark Souls 2: SotFS
>Weapons and armors expanded the most in the series
>Dual Wielding added tremendous amount of combos
>Respec
>Poise Reworked, but viable, some even consider it to be the best version
>Covenants expanded

Bloodborne
>Victorian setting, and atmosphere
>Trick weapons
>Ability to turn pure physical weapons into pure elemental
>Chalice Dungeons
>Dash instead of rolls
>Regain mechanic

>Dark Souls 3
>weapon arts
>?

What unique things did Dark Souls 3 add?

>>146424720
savage

>>146424720
Because it's the first time PvP isn't a complete and utter joke.

>>146424732
ye

>>146424793
Honestly, not a whole ton of innovation. I can appreciate it doing what the previous game did but just better, while stripping out all the half-baked garbage everyone hated from 2 (RIP power stancing though).

It added mad phantoms though, and that is enough for me.

>>146424720
Because everything is equally broken or worthless. In 1, things were broken in various ways.

Did From remove the two hit combo from Yhorm's?

So whats the order of most re playable souls/bb games?

I was thinking something along the line of
Ds1> DS2> BB> DES> DS3
Including expansions.

>>146424720
Because they broke everything in the host's advantage and the invader has fuckall fun and janky mechanics or interactions to use except obscuring ring + soul stream.

Plus, we haven't really discovered many meta-glitches that made DkS1 fun, like dead angling and backstab escapes.

>>146424793
You're forgetting about sexy dolls in BB.

Whew buddy.
When she cuddled me as a squid thing, I was heated.

>>146425168
DaS2 is the least replayable of the series because of respecs and soul memory

>>146424793
>atmosphere
>this is unique to bloodborne
you
what
mate

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>>146425309
DeS did it first faggot.

>>146425073
>I can appreciate it doing what the previous game did but just better

>poise is worthless
>heavy armors worthless
>covenants trash
>world is the most linear in the series
>Vit as useless as resistance
>casters turned to shit

10/10 improvements

>>146424793
>Poise Reworked, but viable, some even consider it to be the best version
just you desperately trying to find positives in DaS2

>>146425463
Did you miss the part where that was a subordinate clause attached to "victorian"?

>>146425489
She didnt cuddle me as a squid thing.

>>146424793
>Moundmakers
>Unique Crossbolts
>Obscuring Ring
>Having a Crestfallen actually become undepressed and do something with his life
>Being able to jump off ladders?
>Being able to change your appearance in-game
>Ashtus
>Hollow Infusions

>>146425603
It's funny that he forgot about things like ascetics, the beginning of (failed) anti-twink measures, teleport from start and no limitations to infusions.

>>146425523
the only thing casters in DaS2 have over casters in DaS3 is homing great soul arrow, the rest is as bad or the same
and farron dart and flashsword make up for it

>>146425939
As much as people complain about soul memory, it was less bad than the abject abortion that was BB's multiplayer

>>146425523
Looking back with the benefit of the previous games having had literal years of balance patches, sure, faggot.

I'll give you poise being a huge step back but VIT is still more useful than resistance and less of a hideous tax than adaptability, though it'll immediately be more useful when/if armour is tweaked. Casters have been steadily getting small, incremental buffs at a time, as games should be adjusted, and should continue to improve.

Meanwhile it looks great for a change, plays smoothly designed for 60 FPS, controls the best in the series, is clearly the most polished and finished in terms of single player content, has the biggest arsenal of spells and various gimmick shit that will expand when it has DLCs, the music is still top shelf, a functioning way of blue + mad phantoms + functioning high activity territorial aldrich are great (though invading sucks shit due to balance), the combat is fast and fluid and rewarding to fuck things up in, and collection/management is the least tedious of all games so far, as well as the death mechanic striking a pretty good balance between 1 and 2.

It's a massively better basic platform to build off of than the previous games, with a couple of really annoying flaws that are sadly unlikely to go away, but overall solid, playable and easily improved by just plain adding more content and adjusting balance as time goes on.

is it just me or do clerics never really use bountiful/soothing sunlight?

>>146425647
>Victorian setting and atmosphere
>versus using the comma like in your post
>Victorian setting (pause) and atmosphere which more closely implies BB is the only atmospheric game

After killing Aldritch for Anri, it makes me wish that NPC's had dialogue for when you summoned them for specific bosses or at least did gestures

>>146426145
Not him, but you're trying to hard

>>146425785
Pretty much all of the NPCs have better developed arcs in general. They felt very fleshed out, save the Firekeeper for some reason.

You forgot reworked spell mechanics, weapon based matchmaking (RIP twinking but people being carried by phantoms with +15 gear was ridiculous), password matching to play with friends, gesture guidance in messages, easily swappable and convenient covenants, and double the number of endings.

>>146426131
They're both very bad.

>>146426010
Honestly, 3's system is likepy the best, weapon memory is perfect save for the fact you can't use bottomless box.

How do I make dude's skin blue? Trying to mess around in the creator, but it only changes the skin around his face, not even his whole head. I've seen other freaks with red or green skin, so there must be a secret technique.

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>tfw apparently was in the wrong thread
>tfw fight clubs
>tfw post your fucking webms

>>146426648

I haven't tried it in DaS3, but this is how you did it in DaS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMQvg5WRIDg

>>146424793
>Ascetics, effigy burning
>Ability to be invaded areas with dead bosses, ability to be invaded while hollow, even when you have 5% max HP
>Introduced increased max invader and summon count
>Inability for summoned phantoms to heal while invaded
>Attunement stat increasing spell casts and cast speed
>Cast speed as a visible stat, in fact, much more visible stats in general
>Scaling being readily apparent
>Prevalence of gear with effects like backstab immunity, increased stats / casts, etc
>The first move you make speeds up the next one, like guard breaks speeding up the next attack
>2-hit max stunlock system
>Auras for high ranking covenant members
>Weapons and shields that cast spells
>Staves that cast multiple types, staves with different cast speeds, much more cast tool variety in general
>Every main stat increases several lesser stats, pure casters get less HP and phys def than STR or DEX builds but more element defense, and so on

Not even done, I could keep on going

Dark Souls 2 deserves more credit for innovation.

>>146426206
But they do. Tsorig will do my thanks fir every kill, and you have Gotthard, Shade and Heysel.

Still waiting for a Maldron tier NPC.

>>146426379
>password matching to play with friends, gesture guidance in messages,

That was also in bloodborne. But it's the only souls game with that so I'll give it a pass. Desu comparing souls to BB is a bit unfair. I definitely agree with you about the NPCs, Ludleth is my favorite by far once I exhausted his dialogue and read the skull ring. Poor guy

>>146426761

But it also deserves to be shat on for being fucking garbage

Is the heavy weapon R1-R1 combo very unreliable for anyone else?

>>146426780
>comparing souls to a souls game is unfair
What

>>146426379
Some NPCs were still quite bland, Karla, Cornix, Irina, Andre all could've done more. I didn't like some being so similar to others in quest mechanics, like Leonhard.

>>146424185
Despite it's mainstream success, the amount of people who actually really like Dark Souls enough to play it more than once is still relatively small
That and DS3 wasn't as great as it could have been

>>146426761
Ascetic farming was garbage and tedious and infinite ascetics was an unintentional exploit
Nobody was ever actually invaded hollow except once in a blue moon and it wasn't even fun for the invader
Most of that gear was added in DLCs
Dark Souls 3 essentially works on almost the exact same stunlock system
Auras were retarded and served no purpose except to make the arenas even more tryhard than they would have already been
There are weapons that cast spells
Main stats still increase specific defenses and resistances in 3

The rest are valid.

Credit for "innovation" only goes so far when half the shit it "innovated" was a fucking horrible idea that we're all glad is gone, such as:

SOUL MEMORY
Despawning enemies (and having sets drop only from them)
Cracked orbs only
ADAPTABILITY
Slow estus recovery (essentially providing immunity to estus punishing)
Lifegems making estus irrelevant in singleplayer anyways
Caster grass
Some of the shittiest "unique" bosses/areas of all time (the gank squad, reindeer valley, etc.)
SOUL
MEMORY

Not even done, I could keep on going

>>146425983
>Soul Shower
>Soul Vortex setup with anything
>Dark Hail headshot / Climax nuke after a parry
>Unlocked Dark Fog
>Scraps of Life
>Dance of Fire
>Outcry
>Heavenly Thunder

You're Nikolai, aren't you
Stop posting about games you didn't master
There's good reasons people black crystalled when running into mages in arenas, they're damn effective and frustrating to take down

>>146427018
If you trade with the R1 of a hyperarmor ultraweapon, the 2nd hit will consistently fail to combo.

Also, most Greataxes can't combo their 2HR1s under normal circumstances. Only the Greataxe and BKGA can. All others allow the enemy to roll after only 1 2HR1 unless there's enough latency involved.

>>146427063
They're very similiar, but the core gameplay and balancing are very different. So let me correct myself, in those situations it is unfair to compare the 2 series

>>146427063
Memezaki was the one who came up with those in Bloodborne and then ported them over to 3. For all intents and purposes, it is innovating the Dark Souls series.

>>146427090
Karla and Cornix were admittedly kinda low key, but despite having little interaction were pretty memorable for what they had to say, Karla moreso than Cornix.

Irina is kind of a package deal with Eygon, and the two of them and their optional paths + technology gauntlets are really cool.

Andre is already from another game. He kind of has half his characterization already.

>90% of Ds1 players are using BK halberd or Gravelord Sword

Oh gee I wonder how all these Ds3 players all just coincidentally happened to stumble upon these two weapons

>>146427294

I'm trading with straight sword and katana r1s, greataxes and great hammers both fail to combo.

>>146427409
>>146427381
If the game was called Blood Souls no one be trying to split them as two different things

>>146426098
>plays smoothly designed for 60 FPS
DaS2

>controls the best in the series
Bloodborne, because its the same engine but no quicksteps

>is clearly the most polished and finished in terms of single player content
What you meant to say "most linear and shortest"

>has the biggest arsenal of spells and various gimmick shit
Copy pasted spells from previous games, with barely anything unique to Dark Souls 3 itself, and the spells themselves mostly garbage

>the music is still top shelf
Wow surely setting standards here

> a functioning way of blue + mad phantoms + functioning high activity territorial aldrich are great
DaS2 did it already and did it better

> the combat is fast and fluid and rewarding to fuck things up in
Nice straightsword cookiecutter build

>and collection/management is the least tedious of all games so far
Collecting those concords must have been fun.

>DaS3babbies
>Delusional DaS3 babbies

>>146427197
>Ascetic farming was garbage
?
Invade in the Abyss.
>infinite ascetics was an unintentional exploit
No, see above.
>Nobody was ever actually invaded hollow except once in a blue moon and it wasn't even fun for the invader
That is plainly not true. There was no matchmaking against invading hollow players. I often brought Soul Appease at low levels to nuke unsuspecting hollow hosts.
At least 70% of my invades were hollow.
>Most of that gear was added in DLCs
Jester's, Black Hood, Hexer's Hood, Ladle, Work Hook, etc.
>served no purpose
Auras were the sign of a tryhard or a genuinely good player, a sign that you should take them seriously. They also showed up in the Abyss.
>Dark Souls 3 essentially works on almost the exact same stunlock system
>There are weapons that cast spells
>Main stats still increase specific defenses and resistances in 3
And? Does it deserve credit for it when it did not introduce these? Did you think I was only listing improvements exclusive to 2? Don't be stupid.

>Caster grass
Not only was it a better system than spice, it was rarer than spice, less abusable than spice.
>Lifegems making estus irrelevant in singleplayer anyways
They're a supplement. Babby lifegems are merely there for the start of the game and minor hits.
Lifegems are a good thing in Dark Souls 2 due to how the game works with the length of the levels, amount of enemies, limited estus.

>>146427739
They don't think it be like it is but it do. Pay attention to them no

>>146427218
>You're Nikolai
literally who? also
>muh combos that worked once every month
>Soul Shower
useless
>Soul Vortex setup with anything
useless smokescreen and backstab bait
>Dark Hail headshot / Climax nuke after a parry
you can do the same with a CSS in DaS3, DaS1 had dark bead so it's not like it's a novelty
>Unlocked Dark Fog
became useless after the bat staff nerf
>Scraps of Life
I can give you that, one of the rare useful spells for setting up another one/a heal
>Dance of Fire
backstab bait
>Outcry
only good on knocked down opponents
>Heavenly Thunder
RNG, as good as pillars of light in DaS3, so shit
so basically 1 and half good spells
people black crystalled when running into mages because it was ALWAYS the same fucking game of cat and mouse, and it was tedious
>Stop posting about games you didn't master
lol, like there was anything to master

>>146427551
That's what I meant.
Any ultra weapon that's hit during startup hyperarmor will not be able to combo from that hit. You can still combo if it's late in the hyperarmor, but a startup-trade will break your combo even though you don't stagger

>>146427409
The thing is, there's the Coculus summon in ODK which Cornyx never talked about, and you get Karla so late she barely does anything.

My biggest grip with Irina is she becoming a firekeeper and saying absolutely nothing after it and I wish Andre was explained.

Also bothers me that unlike past games NPCs most lack bonus lines. Only fucking Patches has lines if you don't buy anything or walk while in the screen, others act like nothing happened, and I think only Orbeck shows a big attitude change as you buy things.

>>146427936
Post your game hours of DaS2

>>146428134
>playing the shittiest game in the series
lol fag

>>146428134
I don't play on peecee

>>146427218
>all but one patched to be viable or not-broken

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>>146427936
I think he means this dude

>>146428181
As expected, another retard spouting shit about a game he never played.

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>>146427936
>dance of fire is backstab bait
Holy shit, stop posting. You're just embarrassing yourself here.

>>146428271
I could spit shit about Ds2 all day that game fucking sux

>>146428243
Post PSN/XBL acc name or screenshot

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>>146427847
>DaS2
>designed for 60 FPS

How's that durability glitch?

>>146428427
Fixed centuries ago

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>>146428556

>he thinks it's fixed

>>146428556
I'm not sure you're grasping the thrust of the point.

I'm glad anons here are finally seeing how good DaS2 was and how garbage DaS3 actually is.

Biggest factor is replayability, DaS2 did NG+ right.

>>146428738
>half a dozen red phantoms in the first third of the game
>players segregated into the NG+ pool

Yeah, sure was.

>>146428643
>being retarded

>>146428279
it is, faggot but since you've played baddies in the arena they never punished you for using it
even jester weares you could just roll though the spell and poke them for free damage

>but muh mindgames with firestorm
doesn't mean shit to me when I can just interrupt you with a rollpoke

>>146427936
>nuh uh no its shit its shit
DaS3 babbies everyone

Soul Shower forced people to run away. It had stellar tracking, a quick cast, high poise damage, good damage. It was great.

You're not rolling through a Soul Vortex setup with Affinity / HCSM + CSS. That's a good way to die in two seconds.

Parries in DaS3 aren't fast enough to hit a CSS with, feel free to prove me wrong.
CSS also doesn't deal 2~4k damage like Dark Hail / Climax do, without hypermode, without the candlestick, without dusk crown, without your two mandatory rings.

Dark Fog is ridiculous in 2. You predict a roll, fog the guy, fog again, he's poisoned. 1050 damage from allowing the poison or he mosses and eats a nuke of your choice.
You could just spam Dark Fog and it would poison people even without aiming it.

If you're getting backstabbed for Dance of Fire you're clinically retarded. It's a fixed range spell and a setup for other pyros.

Outcry is good in general. Super fast recovery, extreme area of effect, hits through rolls, high damage. It's the best pyromancy and probably the best spell in the game.

Pillars of Light doesn't even come close to Heavenly Thunder, you're not even trying. Heavenly Thunder does five times the damage, casts near instantly, doesn't root you, lasts longer, hits multiple times.

>>146428252
Sounds like DaS3's great farron dart and flashsword. DaS3 isn't there yet. Maybe one day.

>>146428931
You and your one friend can stop posting now. A hundred threads is enough. The joke is getting old.

>>146428738
Apart from lmao2cat was there any part in DaS2 where you actually went 'oh fuck this part again, im gonna get absolutely buttblasted, fuckfuckfuck'?

In both DaS1 and 3 there were some parts/enemies that made you go this way but Das2 was as bland as it goes in this aspect.
Even in ng+

>people letting Delusional DaS2 Defender babbies out of their cages again

if I transfer a save from another account to my main account will I get bunned if I had more progress on my alt?

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How's the mace's moveset and damage in PvP? It's a lot more aggressive looking this time around, I kinda like it. Also, preserverance seems like a nice boost. I'm wondering, with the proper attunement, if it would be at all possible to just spam it a lot to get small bouts of poise during trades.

>>146429014
>DaS3babbies in charge of arguing

>>146428556
They never fixed it, they just made it so hitting corpses doesn't reduce durability.

>>146429014
Nice argument, fagola.
Your revisionism will never work.

>>146429198
>>146429140
Point instantly proven.

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friend's going to buy DS3 soon and i'm kind of struggling on what to play; i've already played your average 40/40 build and a faith build, so the rest comes down to either going for a katana weeaboo build, a pyro build or a sorcerer build
would appreciate any and all suggestions
is immolation tinder viable for pyro builds? because i might just end up going for that if that is the case

all I have to do to prove that DaS2's PvP is shit is to pull the steam numbers

>>146429163
They fixed the double durability drain caused by 60 FPS
They fixed the corpse drain bug
Why do you think Santier's takes an eternity to break now?
You just don't remember how bad durability was during pre-patch at 60 FPS

Durability is currently the same on PC as on PS3/4/360/X1
It's not bugged, it's intended

>>146429198
>DaS2 being objectively shit until the end of its lifecycle (already far too late) is revisionism
DELUSIONAL

Patricians know DaS2 was secretly the best. Nu-males cling to the Unused Bloodborne Assets 3

>>146429316
>lying

>>146429314

That would be cruel, let them live in their delusion.

>>146429314
>das2 has half the players as das3
>has been out for years

how about that 7k players after two months
real shameful

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>>146428931
>Pillars of Light doesn't even come close to Heavenly Thunder, you're not even trying. Heavenly Thunder does five times the damage, casts near instantly, doesn't root you, lasts longer, hits multiple times.

IT'S
NOT
FAIR

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>>146420145
Why does your autism command you post this in every thread

PSA:
For anybody that's been living under a rock and still doesn't know, the DaS3 roll doesn't start it's iframes on frame 0 like previous games. There's a very small window during the startup of a roll where you can take damage as normal, unlike DaS1 and 2 where rolling iframes began on the first frame of the roll.

What does this mean? It means that delaying rolls until the last second is bad, and you should always aim to roll early and mash rolls rather than try to react precisely to your enemy's attacks.

>>146429473
how about 1k less than dark souls 1 when it had two releases?

>>146429575
haaalberdddssss

>>146429621
>globalmeme start day

>>146429621
plebbit had this little event, you might have heard of it

>>146429672
>i-it's because of that event nobody gave a fuck about
look at the 30 days averages, dumbfuck

"Dark Souls 3 was a mistake." - Miyazaki

>>146429575

Isn't this a glitch caused by latency? Does this happen in PvE as well?

>>146429672
>thinking people went back because of the event, not preference
It's the opposite. People left because there wasn't enough activity. With the new mods and guaranteed online players, there is no reason to play anything else

>>146429575
source?

>>146424503
t. Shitter

Can't really argue the replay value

>>146429801
it's not like a widespread community event revitalized interest in das1 or anything

DaS2 SotFS is $14. I played DaS2 on console for a while. Is PC online still lively?

>>146429313
Play something shit on purpose so you don't carry him so hard his balls shrivel up.

>>146429473
>what is people playing Dark Souls 3 first and then the other games in the series
>what is Dark Souls 2 having more content to get through after three expansions
>what is Dark Souls 3 having essentially the same number of serious fans as the previous two games that hasn't grown much while getting most of its sales from the enormous influx of one and done casuals that flock to OMG SO HARD after it became a yearly release asscreed series
>what is PvP being better balanced after several years so the diehard duelists are going back

They're sure as fuck not there to play the game through again.

>>146430398
>still
>denying
>the
>facts
After the DLCs were done and buried DaS1 had more players than 2, plain and simple

>>146430441
No_

>>146430441
yeah

>>146430524
did you forget that there was more than 1 back to das1 event

also nah you're the one denying the facts lad, das1 and das2 were equal for a while then das2 lead for a long time, split between vanilla and scholar

>>146430398
it's been like that for almost a year now, retard

>put sign down on the high wall for low level coop
>realize very quickly how terrible casual players are
>put on rags and worst weapon on so I don't carry them too much
>end up still blasting through enemies way before the host even reaches me without taking damage

>>146430669
> split between vanilla and scholar
This should also be considered. Scholar has less players than DaS1, but Scholar + Vanilla has always had more players combined.

>>146429313

Immolation Tinder is a sorcerer's weapon, not a pyromancer's.

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easiest way to cheese dancer now?

Which game is worse after the first playthrough (excluding pvp)

BB or DS3.

>>146430796
You could try this instead
>boot up the collector's edition
>equip untrue ring
>get summoned for coop
>if the host is shit then switch factions to invader and fuck him up
>if he summons help, switch back and act like nothing is wrong
>then switch again to backstab if he goes for the black crystal, otherwise switch back later to kill the clueless phantom

>>146430891
>Scholar has less players than DaS1, but Scholar + Vanilla has always had more players combined.
lol, except no?
http://steamcharts.com/search/?q=dark+souls
that's why nobody take you DaS2babbies seriously

What's the best light armor for SL20?

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Huh... bombs apparently can do counterhit damage...

Learn something new everyday I suppose.

>>146431086
ds3

>>146431162

Isn't that instability damage?

Man, it's hard to tell which enemy in Dark Souls 3 is the worst enemy in the entire series because there are so fucking many candidates.

Does anyone on PS4 have some free time to be a mule? I can repay by muling myself or with weapons.

>>146428427
Did they ever fix that? It was annoying losing 7+ durability because I hit an already dead opponent with my halberd.

>>146431245
Maybe, idk what you call it, I was just surprised to hear the "thud" sound and have the bomb do like 100 more damage or so. Also that jumping attack from a mile away was pretty funny.

>>146431086
ds3
Adding an expansion will just make another chore to get to end game.

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>>146431318
Lothric Knights because their shields make me look like a little baby when I hold them

>>146431392

Instability damage is taken during jump attacks and while running. Counter damage is done by thrust damage during attacks.

>>146431318
Really? I found the enemy selection in 3 to be incredibly less annoying than 2 (though much better when you fix poise, otherwise the dogs are complete faggots).

I mostly just find the maggot things annoying as fuck for having to switch to a torch if you get hit, the jailers kind of obnoxious to deal with though not a huge deal since the dungeon is so short and light on your estus, and the FUCKING FAGGOT GREATSWORD CATHEDRAL KNIGHTS HOLY SHIT STOP SWINGING THAT GIANT PIECE OF SHIT FOR LIKE TWO FUCKING SECONDS.

>>146431515
that one blue knight in front of oceirus is the bane of low level runs

>>146431318

I agree

>>146431471
I feel like it gets taken during the non-invincible part of rolls too. I've had that thud happen to me in PvE when rolling once or twice and it fucked me up right good. It also happens when you attack something while guard broken instead of riposting, or enemies/bosses in similar states. It's basically whenever you don't have your feet properly rooted and stance squared really.

>>146431434
Lothric Knights are a candidate for one of the best enemies.
I mean the pure garbage like Pus of Man, Corvians, Pus of Man (inside the dragon), and just everything that NEVER STOPS SWINGING (cathedral knights, workers, thralls, Pus of Man, Corvians, etc)

>>146431357
I can help. What's the password and location?

>hyperarmor weapons still get the thrust damage penalty during their hyperarmor
This game's mechanics were really poorly thought out.

>>146431672

Great, let's meet at the cleansing chapel bonfire in cathedral of the deep.

Password : dragon

>>146431086
I dropped DS3 completely a week ago. I still do chalice dungeons to this day.

>>146431471
Counter damage is a catch-all term for increased damage taken while performing an action. It's not specific to thrusting.

>>146431471

Yeah, just a terminology misunderstanding. That said I honestly thought consumables like bombs/daggers just did a flat (based on scaling of course) amount of damage if they landed, I didn't think they actually were affected by those special circumstances like instability for increased damage. Pretty neat.

>>146431659
>workers
>thralls
>corvians
>never stop swinging

???

Admittedly corvians can get a little spammy if you let them, but they're wicked cool and easy to kill during their transformation. I've never really had much trouble with them.

Again though, pretty much every enemy people universally hate is instantly much less aggravating when you turn poise back on.

Seriously. Done the whole game like that. You can just slap corvians in the middle of their knife spazzouts.

>>146431063
Dancer Skip

>>146431318

I'd say the the greatsword-wielding Lothric Knights and the greatsword-wielding Cathedral Knights are the most bullshit enemies. They never stop attacking and are irritating as hell to fight.

>>146426648
Base skin color straight up gives you RGB sliders

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Nameless King vs Any boss from Dark Souls 1-3.

Which bosses stand a chance and why?

Will accept both crunch and fluff reasoning.

>>146431318
Chain Axe niggers are worse than BB's Winter Lanterns, DaS2's Drakeknights, DaS's toxic blowdart, and DeS's bellringers.

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>>146431318
Dogs

>>146432047
fume knight would destroy him, almost complete elemental immunity, far more poise, hits harder and more frequently

>>146432047
Yhorm, Vendrick and Ancient dragon wins everytime due to inflated healthpool/defenses. Bed of Chaos is impossible to win against because the other bosses can't fit inside.

>>146431854
The last two playthroughs I've done of undead settlement every single fucking plow worker has spammed their raking combo.
Thralls too. Unending mashing combos. Corvians never stop if you don't mash their shit in. I hate their screaming and sound effects so much.

>>146432049
Goddamn, I forgot the chain axe cunts. Someone post the webm.

>>146432103
Thankfully dogs even with their new Goku bullshit are STILL not as bad as the FRC Hellhounds.

>Every humanoid enemy is three feet taller than you for whatever reason

Okay, standard for Dark Souls.

>Hawkwood was part of the Legion
>Who are all three feet taller than you
>Except him

Okay what the fuck.

Do you just get a pair of stilts when you join? Did he abandon them because he was a midget? What the fuck is going on here?

>>146431659
I liked the idea behind pus of man, the fire weakness, I mean.

>>146430893
i'm aware, but can it still be used to great effect as just a melee weapon on a pyro because of the int scaling?

>>146432253

>FRC Hellhounds

NO

STOP RIGHT THERE

/NO/

>Hemwick Witches
>Bell Maidens w/ infinitely respawning faggot spiders
>madmen
>MADMEN
>REEEEEEYAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>OOOOOOOOOAAAAAOOOOOOO

>>146432330

No, because then you can't utilize its catalyst functions. At that point you might as well just use a Chaos-infused halberd of some sort.

>>146432047
>Weak to dark
He'd lose, both canonically and stat-wise, to a tonne of bosses.
Manus would fold him in half and use him as a dragon dildo in a 1v1. Fume would probably crush him just in a battle of raw stats, and also in canon by virtue of being a champion buffed up by a blazing inferno of raw abyss inhabiting his sword.

Basically, any boss that has canon or in-game dark damage or lightning resistance would stomp him because he's comically weak to dark.

>>146432049
Literally roll sideways.

>>146432253
I cannot remember a single time a thrall or worker has combo'd me. Are you using some slow-ass weapon without HA and no shield as well as having IRL 7 luck?

>>146432282
Souls make you swole nigga. Did you really think Vendrick was inexplicably 30 feet tall when he was 18?

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Any proposals on how to make my fashion more fitting for a manhunter?
Aside from Black Hand, I'll be switching to that once I get it.

>>146432282
he left the legion because everybody mocked him for being a manlet

>>146432282
Same reason that Ciaran is human-sized despite being the same race as Artorias and Ornstein and the Silver Knights.

From goes out of their way to make NPCs human-sized wherever possible because it makes it immediately recognizable that they're an NPC and not an enemy. It also means they can give them a normal player-character moveset so that the player doesn't think "ooh, look what I've found" when they attack them and turn them hostile. It'd be silly, for example, if Hawkwood busted out the Abyss Watcher moveset when you aggrod him considering that's basically spoiling a boss for you.

And, as always, character size is not a source of canon.

>>146432620

I want 2 be swol 2. Imagine if you grew in size depending on your pool of unspent souls (to a maximum of, like, a lothric knight or something).

>>146432529
What if you could both phases?

Is it possible to make a boss vs boss thing in 3?

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>>>146432253

>unarmed ghru who can literally activate their jump grab in the middle of being hit and punish the recovery of the swing

>twinblade wardens who can glide around on iceskates, use it to escape combos and then epic bleed combo you in 3 hits, also infinite stamina LOL

>pus of mans whos attacks are literally impossible to fucking see, have hitboxes that take up the entire screen, and scream at the top of their lungs the entire time

>CHAIN AXE SNAKE LMFAO DUDE WALLS LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO A TEAM

>spear ghrus who can spam 5 attacks in a row all while blocking and toxic you

>pontiff "dude just keep attacking lmao" knights

>dagger "literally kill yourself if you dont use a shield" snakemen with 6 hit stunlocks and insane lunge range

>>146432753

>Same reason that Ciaran is human-sized despite being the same race as Artorias and Ornstein and the Silver Knights

Maybe that's just how their sexual dimorphism works.

>>146432047
Manus, Kalameet, Ancient Dragon, Fume Knight, NG+ Unpatched Lost Sinner, and the Ganksquad would all crush him without much of a fight.

Manus, Kalameet, and Fume Knight are just too statistically strong.
Unpatched Lost Sinner and the Ganksquad are like a squad of summoned phantoms on Cheat Engine.

Channeler's Trident buffed Gaping Dragon might stand a chance if NK is too hollow to target the head.

>>146432282

The flow of wolf's blood is convoluted.

>>146433237
>ganksquad

lol wut

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>>146418673
>the filename
gets me every time

>>146433329
didn't play the ds2 dlc?

>>146432394
I think it's kind of unfair to consider FRC dungeon inhabitants though

Just imagine everything that's bullshit in DaS3 on effective NG+9 while wearing calamity ring

>>146433329
The archer, the havel, and the 2kat alva from Sunken King.

>>146433237
I love the irony of lightning being the canon weakness of all dragons, yet the overwhelming majority of dragon enemies and bosses in the series are so comically resistant to lightning that they'd dump on the canonical God of Dragonslaying because Fromsoft is shit at making videogames.

>>146433439
>>146433447
I know who they are. Its just that i've seen NK dunk on guys who've summoned 3 extra people for him

>>146433237
Gank Squad would not be able to kill NK

>>146433237

So they wouldn't let Hawkwood roid up on wolfjuice in the locker room because he was a shield-using nerd? I'd call them cliquish but I guess when you all share the same soul that's what happens.

>>146431923
Do the fall-through-the-landscape bug in Irythill and you can skip the Dancer, the Deacon, the Pontiff, kill Aldritch in perfect safety from below, and skip Dragonslayer Armor. They have to fix that glitch soon, it's stupid.

>>146433629
>>146433678
Are you guys forgetting how powerful the gank squad was?
The archer, the guy wearing black leather and lucatiel's mask, had 80 poise and hyper armor active at all times and 2.5k HP + Estus.
The others had even more.

>>146433480

>Most of the dragonslayer's armor/shields have lightning resist
>Despite lightning being used to hunt dragons, and not by them
>Only explanation is dragonslayers were so comically inept that they routinely stabbed themselves with their own weapons

No wonder NK defected.

>try dueling at pontiff's with a farron greatsword
>literally only summoned by spear and glaive users because they're all checking my weapon before summoning me and swapping to a "counter"
>they don't realize their "counters" don't really work.
It;s pretty funny. They all backpedal and except be to just L1 into their pokes like an idiot and flounder when they realize I know how to use the rest of the moveset.

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>>146433480
>>146433942
At least the Lothric fuckers have the excuse of having high lightning resist on their gear because they're allied with dragons

Makes no sense that one of their weapons would be imbued with lightning though

>>146431923
what?

>>146433480
>there's a flag in DaS1 called Is_Dragonslayer on weapons
>it does nothing to dragon enemies when enabled

But yeah King of the Storm is the only ""dragon"" weak to lightning

>>146432865
>Is it possible to make a boss vs boss thing in 3?

Not as well as you could in DaSII.
NPC AI routines are only loaded in areas that NPC is native to. So, at best, you can only have bosses borrow the AI patterns of an NPC in the area you swap them into.

The only bosses that share a map and can legitimately fight are, I think, Dragonslayer Armor vs. Dancer, and Pontiff Sulyvahn vs. Aldrich.

>>146433480
?
kalameet take neutral damage and seath, hellkite dragon and gaping dragon are weak to lightning

Favorite DaS3 track go

>>146433902
NK can easily do 2000 damage with like 5 hits tho. Probably less. And he's aggressive as fuck.
The archer one has 80 poise? He still got staggered every time I hit him with anything. Havel and alva were the only ones that ever were able to poise through any of my attacks.

>>146433942
I love the fact that all the lightning-imbued weapons make reference to how they're specialized for dragonslaying, and all of them are shit at fighting dragon enemies ingame.
>try dragonslayer greatbow with lightning greatarrows against ancient wyven
>they do like 120 damage a hit to its head

Hell
>try dragonslayer's spear in DaS1
>legendary weapon of a dragonslayer purpose-built to slay dragons, imbued with anti-dragon lightning and with a special anti-dragon thrusting technique.
>use it against Kalameet
>it does fuck all because lolsplitdamage
>generic longsword does more damage

>>146433016
Pus of Man drove me crazy before I turned camera wall reposition back on. All I could see while fighting one was a greasy black texture.

>>146433902
No i don't remember how powerful they were because i stomped them every time i fought them

Would anyone be interested in an FC?

>>146434371

The Dragonslayer Greatbow I can understand because if the DaS1 intro is anything to go by they were meant to be used by a ton of Silver Knights firing in unison. But yeah, Ornstein's spear being shit against dragons is completely nonsensical.

Maybe he never actually killed any and just spent all day hanging out with Smough talking about how awesome he was, and his 'dragonslayer spear' was like one of those giant tacky SUVs that would get stuck if you took them anywhere near a dirt road.

>>146434285
crystal sage vs. the legion?

>>146434636
I think Road of Sacrifices/Crucifixion Wood and Farron Keep are different maps.

>>146434285
That's lame.
I don't suppose it would would be possible to circumvent that by getting the game to load multiple maps at once?

>>146434754
i figured they're connected in some way since invaders can travel between the two.

>>146434961
There's technically nothing stopping someone from following a host from Undead Parish to Sen's Fortress other than a fog gate. If they don't make a fog gate separating them, there's no problem at all.

>>146434285
Wouldn't Dancer count as High Wall? You technically don't enter the castle until the mausoleum room with the knight cleric.

>>146434961
I head dark arrows have homing ability
is it true?

does messing with iframes using CE trigger the anti cheat stuff?

>>146435567
well you head right! (yes)

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what are some good low level weapons? id imagine crossbows in general since they dont scale. Im not looking for twink weapons, just something that will do some decent damage against hosts.

>>146435893
Arstor's Spear is really good.

>>146435893
Damage is unavoidably terrible at low levels. Your best options are good raw weapons like the ASS and the like. Avoid split-damage as the game's terrible defense mechanics make 99% of split damage weapons unusable at low levels.

The 1% is the Dragonslayer's Axe, which is the best twink weapon in the game. Infuse it with raw and buff it with a golden pine resin to 2shot most phantoms.

>>146432529
Manus seems like an obvious good point. Fume isn't though, seeing as Dark Souls 2 had bizarrely inflated numbers for no reason, where everything has higher HP and weapons do more damage. You're also forgetting that he can ride around on that faggot dragon and spam lightning/fire nukes, so Fume has no way of shooting back at him.

Is the event today? Anyone got the image handy?

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Here's the real question.

What boss from any part of the Souls series can stand up to a serious beast / Great One boss from Bloodborne?

Keep in mind, all of them can:
>heal broken bones and limbs in a second
>easily survive having their viscera and brains ripped out repeatedly
>can only be killed by extreme exsanguination
>be healed by blood
>tear through any form of armor like tissue paper, no form of defense is stated to be enough protection against even a simple man-sized beast (Vicar Amelia's claws scratch through stone without stopping)
>only defeated by the Hunter because the Hunter has the same powers, and has a weapon imbued with cursed eldritch power designed to exsanguinate

>>146424793
You're giving DS2 A LOT of credit.
>Poise Reworked, but viable, some even consider it to be the best version
Fuck the fuck off.

>>146436491
>>>/bbg/

Told you guys I'd host an untended FC during the weekend. Still feeling up for it during friday instead? What level should I make the host? 100?

Anything else you'd like? Also how many would want it?

>>146433016
The unarmed ghru are faggots, agreed, but there's like two of them in the game and they're easily backstabbed.

Twinblade Wardens are literally get good. Their attacks are slow and predictable as shit and are all trivially easy to. block if you're a shield user.

Pus of Man are mostly annoying just because they fill the screen but aren't difficult, and are trivialized by fire.

I'll take your word for the chain axes because I've never even seen them go through walls and the whopping two of them in the level don't spawn in areas where you need to use said walls.

Spear ghrus are also literally get good. The five hit combo deals piss damage, it's regular poison, is easy to avoid, easy to block, and has a long-ass cooldown. Their shields are fragile as fuck, letting through tons of damage and guard breaking after three SS hits.

Pontiff knights are get good. They stagger from absolutely anything and have balsa wood for defense and HP. The longest shit they have is a super predictable and even timed three hit swing. Just roll dude.

Dagger snakemen are kind of faggots though.

>>146433480
>resistant

What? Kalameet isn't weak to it like the others and just has huge defenses all around like everything else in the DLC. There's the blue drakes, which aren't even dragons, and then what? Lightning destroys Seath, Gaping, Hellkite, Ancient and Sinh.

>>146436491
>any BB boss
>any BB boss at all
>standing a chance against BoC

Cursed beasts.

>>146434630
The bow is because all bows do shit damage in Souls games in an inept attempt to prevent you from cheesing with them.

Seriously, they're ALL garbage. Meanwhile getting shot in the head with one from a silver knight will deal over 1000 damage against medium-heavy armour.

>No dingy set
DS3 is terrible

so how do you do the airwalking glitch? I can't find any info

>>146436590
I'm up for it
100 should be fine

>>146436590
I'd be down

>>146437047
>Still no plume

Fucking why?

>>146436860
Amygdala could grapple it and smash the bug inside simultaneously with all those long ass arms.

>>146436590

What system? If PS4 count me in.

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>>146424793
>>146426761
It's funny how all the things DS2 tried to bring didn't stopped the game from being incredibly boring to play.
Floaty looking animations
Garbage graphic style
Shitty sound effects
Dull enemies
The most passive and prediction heavy game in the series.
Red and Blue Covenant grinding a fucking chore for the rewards given.

It's just fucking boring.

>>146436491
If you mean in actual canon and not game mechanics, in terms of beasts, quite a lot of them. Kalameet can fucking nuke them from a thousand feet in the air, Manus can corrupt them to death with his black semen, Priscilla can instantly bleed them to death before they even know she's there due to invisibility, Seath can curse them into petrified crystal, Bed of Chaos can knock them into a bottomless pit, the fucking Moonlight Butterfly can tirelessly magic bomb them from the air, Nito uses his disease miasma bullshit that he used to wipe out the dragons, Nameless King can do the same as Kalameet but with lightning to make up for the shittier dragon, Wolnir has a good shot of acid misting them to death if they aren't smart enough to attack his bracelets (they probably aren't), Aldrich teleporting around like a faggot at long distance can burn them to death/fuck them with millions of arrows to bleed them to death/healtank with lifehunt scythe if for some weird reason he gets close, I've legitimately forgotten most Dark Souls 2 bosses. Great Ones have some magic bullshit so they can cut out a few of those.

If you're talking about Viscerals, that's hardly uncommon for bosses in any of the games to survive grotesque punishment. Seath is even literally immortal unless for some reason the beast is in his sanctum. Bloodborne also doesn't have magic and godmetal making their gear, so no shit regular ordinary protective gear wouldn't help. Going off of the fact that Souls bosses are unscratched by weapons not heavily reinforced with godstuff, you could even theorize that beasts could barely hurt them.

Will hob ever get a no-hit run?

>>146437670
>not going off pre-abyss jizz Wolnir
Fucker was the largest humanoid in Dark Souls history

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alright lads, just starting up my dank ass new pyromancer character. Is there any gear/weapons that compliment pyromancy damage or scale well with faith/int? I only know of the two rings so far.

dont fall for the ds2 is the worst of the series meme

>>146437397
Can't touch the bug without hitting the orb, hit the orbs and she has no space not to fall to death.

>>146437845
You have the faith and dex/str for raw astora!

>>146437783

was he really that big when he was alive? I assumed like a lot of the bosses throughout the souls series, he just gained extra size after becoming a monster. Was it ever mentioned he was a giant among giants?

>>146437845
Anything with good chaos and dark scaling. Witch's Locks and Gargoyle Flame Spear/Hammer.

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4ii8lj/heres_a_list_of_all_weapons_that_gain_an_sa/

>>146437436
Sorry, should've said, PC. But it's an interesting area, someone should try on PS4 too.

>>146438114
>after becoming a monster
Anon, that's his skeleton. His bracelets are what's protecting him from the abyss and becoming the monsters.

Look at the half of his skeleton you encounter in the fight, fucker is bigger than Yhorm off that alone.