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>>146383746

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub
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oh shit i made a sorcerer in dks1 for the first time and it's fucking strong, thought it was gonna be more tedious.
only annoying thing is when enemies charge at your/are mid attack and the spell goes over theirheads
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>>146418138
Faaggot
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>>146418886
you mad i'm having fun
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in for poise
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nth for /dsg/ has no idea what they're talking about.
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i want a souls bf s
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>>146419085
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>>146418138
Just wait till you try dark magic in pvp.
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PC FC soon?
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>>146419385
What kind of build do you use for that?
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>>146419521

jesus fucking christ

and hes a katana running attack spammer too

human garbage
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>>146419385
and get rollstabbed every time you try to cast something lmao
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>>146419590
mmdks.com/4br0
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>>146419493
I'd be down, but I don't have anythong to host.
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>>146419687
>shit poise minmaxing
>washing pole
>not even 45 dex
>one pursuers cast and 3 dark bead casts
>40 vit
yeah that's your typical ds1 townshit mage host getting rollstabbed for every move he's trying to do
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>>146419892
>anythong
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>>146419998
>not knowing the 4bro meme
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>>146420220
sorry, not an expert in a stuff for degenerates
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REMINDER TO MAKE YOUR POPE, KNIGHT, OR INVADER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

http://pastebin.com/jqKQj426
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>>146417136
Does anyone know if refined or quality+hollow is better for most weapons?
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>>146420542
full hollow quality is a 10% increase in damage compared to refined for most of the infusable weapons
even 50/50 str/dex is usually worse than it
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>>146420460
Almost done with my athiest edgelord invader.
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>>146420658
>no seigwaifu
DaS3 is truly the worst souls game
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>>146420542
if it has c/c on the base version (SOMETIMES d/c) you can usually expect a damage increase but it varies from weapon to weapon some will only see something very minimal by like 6 ar
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>>146421082
>gook game client
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>>146421082
it bothers me a lot more that he is parrying a backstab
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>>146421610
>japanese people play in japanese!!

kill yourself
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>>146421610
>implying the host didn't get baited
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>>146421735
>reading comprehension

there's a 99% chance he isnt a jap but has a waifupillow knowimsayin
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>>146421610
>not buying JP PS4 version on release and switching to PC once it's out.
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Why are the bosses in DS3 so lazy? Vordt was the only passable design for me. Abyss Watchers are literally copy-pasted from Bloodborne, with the ending a clone of Lady Maria. Sulyvann and Yhorm don't even have fucking cutscenes. I'm very underwhelmed.
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In DS2, who did you side with between Creight and Peyton?
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>>146422231
I can hardly remember the bosses.
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>>146422073
I think Miyazaki was just tired of Bamco's shit, and rushed the game out because he was contractually obligated to.
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>>146420460

Who is actually going pope?

http://www.strawpoll.me/10568132
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>>146422073
Pope is so great he got the best introduction without needing a cutscene.

>stands imposing in the middle of his church
>intentionally or not, his sword buffs come into vision as you approach him
>greets you with a lunge attack
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>>146422245
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>Watches Tolomeor's SL1 NK fight
>That fight is now ruined because I've learned how to abuse his shit AI like a bitch

How do I undone all my Souls exp and play it all like the first time again?
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>>146422736
Why are you spamming your shitty webms?
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>>146422609
>not "**ly k***ht"
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>>146422810
I'm helping.
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>>146422810
just report him
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>>146422231
One then the other. The rest of the quest plays out the same either way.

>>146423040
You'll just get yourself banned if you do. They are on topic and help people in the threads. And no, me posting with a trip is not a rule violation.
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>tfw SL120 pontiff duels
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>>146422448
That might be adorable for a crockodile dog if it weren't for the ribs sticking out.
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>>146423518
Dragon Eye Orb DLC when?
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>black seperation crystal isn't instantaneous and if you don't have enough distance from the enemy, you can be hit out of it
>also it's the only way to leave without getting dinged on your account

What did they mean by this?
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>>146424364
You're gonna get 4v1 and like it
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>>146424364
If you BC out enough you get dinged. I've been educating myself about penalty points for the last hour.
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>>146424687

[citation needed]

Because I've BC'd out a LOT and never been dinged, it's also an in-game item and I've read of people specifically testing it over and over again and nothing happening to them.

Not saying you're wrong but some proof would be nice.
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>>146424980
>Jew Facts
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/168566-dark-souls-iii/73648398?page=4
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>>146423518
>actually using the red sign and not just hosting
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>>146425415
I like to join fightclubs.

Then again, maybe you're right...

Also, post webms
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>>146425415
Sometimes when I do that and summon more than one person there is always that one fag that attacks me and sometimes everyone else gangs up on me because LOLZ SO FANNY.

Most of the time they gang up on the guy who attacked me first but fuck if it isn't annoying. What's even the point of doing that?
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>>146425869
>summoning more than one person to duels
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DED
E
D
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>kept hearing the Court Sorccer's Staff was the go to spell caster staff over the starting one
>Upgraded it to +8 and the Starting Staff at +6 has more spell buff than it (183 vs. 179)
Am I missing something? Does the scaling not take off until it hits +10?
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>>146428887
do you have 60 int? different catalysts are optimal at different levels
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>>146428975
Ah, that'd explain it. I'm at about 44 Int so there's a bit of ways to go. Also what about Faith, does it help to have some in the mix like Str/Dex Quality builds?
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>>146429387
if you're only using sorceries (not dark sorceries or pyromancies) then faith is completely irrelevant
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Nameless King vs all Dark Souls 1-3 bosses.

Who among them stands a legit chance?

I'll take reasons both crunch (straight up stats) and fluff (lore) wise.
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>>146425869
>What's even the point of doing that?
Because you're wasting their time, idiot.
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>>146431197
he can easily destroy any other boss in series lore-wise as not only he's a son of the most powerful being in soulsverse but has a dragon ally which will power him up even more if he dies
the only who will give him a decent challenge is manus
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>DS1
>Black Knight
>you have to parry him 4 times to kill him with an early game sword
>if you beat him you get a sword that breaks the game until Chaos Queen Quahog
Wew lad
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>Sheathed dagger/knife isn't on the shoulder but on hip

Wow, FromSoft needs to hire some expert or some shit.
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Does it make sense for a mage to use the MLGS at 40attn / 60 int?
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>>146438785
Sure, why not?

Having a melee weapon is always good.
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>>146438785
is a mlgs build at 120 viable, with magic crutch ring?
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>>146422073

>yhorm
>not having a cutscene

Lel
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I got a question about the Great Mace. It has shit scaling in every infusion and seems worse than vordt's in every way. What's the best way to use it? I was thinking of not infusing it all to keep the base damage high and just buffing it. is the solo C scaling in strength better than DD scaling in refined at the cost of lower base?
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>>146442154
do NOT use the great mace
it is not worth it
it is not worth it at 60 STR heavy
it is not worth it elemental or raw
it is not worth it 40/40 refined
just dont
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>>146443146
it is not worth the titanite
it DOES NOT deal more stamina damage to shields
it's a great hammer with 500 AR fully upgraded and fully statted
if you wanted to use a shitty great hammer you might as well use the wooden great hammer which at least has spin bash
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>>146443551
>>146443146

that is just so sad

Why did they bother? Why does it exist?
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What's the best starting class for pyro/str build ?
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>>146444897
The character planner in the OP has a best class picker built in.
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>>146445549
go fuck yourself nigger
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Why is Hakase going for a cleric class?
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>>146447526
>>146447651
>>146447821
>>146447971
These are great. Please tell me there's a Sakamoto-san.
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Who's having some high wall fun because of the steam sale?
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>>146431197
Old King Allant (with the Punisher, if the NK gets his Dragonbuddy at the start) would like to have a word.
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Guess I'll try here too. Sorcerer looking for help with Aldritch, at Anor Londo bonfire, SL 188, Pass is dsg, on PC.
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>>146455804
>SL 188
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>>146455910
Eh? What's the matter with SL188?
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>>146455910
>PvE character
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>>146456018
Basically ye, that's what this guy is. Just seeing how far I can get before I get bored, Journey 4 atm I think.
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>>146456076
Oh dude, I know. I've got a character at a similar level. I'm just feeding the troll because it's late and I'm tired.
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>>146456252
Ah, I see. Hope I get some help today, too fukin lazy to beat Aldritch alone with Crystal Soul Spear Great Magic Sheild cycle.
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>>146456018
PvE characters != solo characters
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>>146456402
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>>146456607
Holy shit, I haven't seen that one yet XD
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>>146456402
You're too sad, Lucifer
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>>146457182
>race mixing
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>>146420460

Im trying god almighty Im trying but every time I replay through this game I remember another part I fucking hate and suffer through it
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Crystal sage is suffering and I'm mad that this boss was allowed
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>>146457485
I think the very first encounter, without the boss fog there, is easier as he doesn't teleport away quite so fast
Not sure
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>>146457485
>run up to it
>hit it until it dies
That's literally it. You don't even need to dodge or anything. What the fuck are you even doing?
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>>146457485
The Posion Staff from the Bird Men Casters just before the Halfway Fortress bonfire weapon art destroys him, just get him poisoned and go hide.
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>>146422609
>not multiple choice
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Tight
booty
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>>146457547

>You dont even need to dodge or anything

We're talking about the same boss right? The one with the 4 clones that all shoot projectiles?

I'm sure you summoned someone to help you through it but it's actually a bit more challenging solo
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>>146457485
took me 15+ tries before i realized throwing knives kill the clones
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>>146431197
Kalameet for not being lightning weak and also for being the one dragon that Anor Londo was never able to defeat, even in its prime.

Seath for being unkillable unless they're fighting in the one cave for some contrived reason.

Manus or the Four Kings because he couldn't even survive in the Abyss, never mind fight.

Potentially Priscilla because "even the gods feared her power of Lifehunt" but the game doesn't represent what it even does so I have no idea.

Technically pre-hollowing Gwyn I guess, for obvious reasons, though he wasn't a boss in that state.

Honestly, not a lot though. Maybe all four of the Knights of Gwyn in their prime.
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>>146457875
Not even that guy but the boss is piss easy.
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>>146458482
Clever. I would have never thought of that.
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>>146457875
Not that guy also, but you can prevent clones from spawning by smashing the crystals in the intervening period (they're clone spawn locations) and then rush down the purple guy. He automatically goes into teleport away mode after taking a rather small amount of damage, so if you keep bumrushing him, he never gets a spell off.
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>>146458756
I never knew smashing the crystals actually stopped them spawning, I put together that they are the clone spawning locations but never thought you could impact it, huh.
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>>146458861
Confirmed over four runs. Just roll through them and you can prevent 2 clones from spawning, three if you're lucky or want to use firebombs/exploding bolts.
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>>146422609
WHY DO WE HAVE MORE POPES THAN KNIGHTS
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>>146458939
Because it's much easier to be a Pope me thinks, you don't have to fight, just run away and let your Knights protect you.
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Who /hotdog/ here
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>>146458982
well it won't be very easy to survive as a pope with no holy guard

maybe we'll have to have some worlds with high speed multipope action and just do some benny hill shit to invaders
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This is the best NPC in souls series
prove me wrong
you can't
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>>146459359
I bazooka'd that nigger off the chain in Heide's whatever and he got up, slid across thin air, and sucker punched me off the side of the ledge

Another time I was helping a host as a shade and he activated the pendant that works like chameleon, and then turned into a tornado of greatlance pokes that killed me and the host without ever deactivating, which also meant we couldn't read his attacks
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>>146459359
>>146459474
I hate him so much and yet his cheating bullshit makes him charmingly memorable in a janky-ass, B team way.
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>>146459567
>beat him up
>drinks estus
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What is the most edgy set possible?
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>>146459825
Thief mask abyss watcher chest thorn arms or something and bk legs
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I want to do a lore run in DkS1, aiming to get (almost) every piece of lore and dialogue in this game in a single run. Has anyone charted the route necessary for that?
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What is your favorite boss lore-wise?
I think mine is either Champion Gundyr or Oceiros
>the one who should have been the chosen one
>the man who went mad trying to save the world
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roses are red

violets are blue

dragons and mages are complete fucking faggots
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>the only lonely adventure game is Souls 1
Why?
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>>146460695
for me it has to be the nameless king

the firstborn of gwyn, after all of these years, has finally been revealed
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>>146460716
I wonder too.

The only other souls game that provides the similar feel is Demon Souls, but kind of misses the mark.
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What's the most efficient way of getting the items in the lava in smouldering lake?
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>>146460716
shitty hubs with shit characters
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>>146460860
Armor stacking

Profuse Sweat

One of the lava pools can he blocked by a shield, eating it's durability but not slowing you down
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>>146460860
Roll nonstop. You can take no damage at all during your rolling, just be prepare to chug once you start picking up for items. If anything assume it's a suicide run for the three items.
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>>146460860
You can block the lava in one of the pits
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>>146460695
Seath
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>>146460695
tie between seath and gwyndolin
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>>146460716
>solaire
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smouldering lake is the area equivalent to scooping around in a pile of shit for a few goodies
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>>146460860
Hold up your shield

Fire bugs, flash sweat, 2 fire resist rings and good armor
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>>146460695
Seath and Sillyman.
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Is it alright if I play Dark Souls 3 without playing the previous titles?
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>>146461357
No
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>>146461357
you only need to play 1
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>>146461357
You should play DS1, it's dirt cheap right now anyway so you have no excuse for being a homosex.
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>>146461357
no
at the very least play das1, skip das2 if you want
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>Oceiros
>the founder of Lothric, one of the greatest kingdoms we know of
>he who tamed dragons
>the fire begins to wane
>takes it upon himself to fix it; but he can't be a lord, so he decides to create one
>lothric is born, close to lordship but doesn't quite make the cut, they turn to "unspeakable means" and make him one
>lothric fucks off, dooming the land
>he turns to the Grand Archives and the forbidden knowledge of Seath, the paledrake
>eventually begins to turn into a hideous malformed dragon, slowly going mad
>Finally, Ocelotte is born, but is either stillborn or dies shortly after
>the queen fucks off to, probably of grief and not wanting to be with the now consumed king
>Oceiros goes mad from loneliness, grief, anger and sorrow, knowing that he gave everything he had to save the world but nothing came of it
>forces himself to believe Ocelotte is still alive, so he has something
>and you kill him, the man that only wanted to save the world, willing to do anything and everything necessary
don't know if I should feel bad for killing him or feel good for giving him the rest that he earned
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>>146461548
>muh headcanon
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>>146461078
>remember that area in DS1 that nobody liked?
>let's put it in DS3 and make it the worst place in the game again
>also let's throw a bunch of good items in there too in case anyone thinks of skipping it
>laughing in japanese
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>>146460695
Gaping Dragon has always struck me as interesting/odd, even if the boss itself is shit. Same for Bed of Chaos.

Four Kings and New Londo are also pretty baller, an entire city and its residents sealed under water just to stopgap the threat of the Abyss. It always sent shivers up my spine every time I see the mounds of corpses around the door to Valley of Drakes.
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>>146460695
Priscilla, Manus, Ivory or Nameless.
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>>146461641
Most of that is fact, guy.

>>146460860
Conjurator set, fire stoneplate, red bug, flash sweat, hold up the crest or black knight shield and walk. Don't be a retard and panic spam roll, it doesn't help, just steadily chug estus as you go. Wearing the sun princess ring and firing off gentle prayer from a chime or a regen miracle also helps a lot. It's actually not all that hard though.
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is multiplayer in ds1 still alive?
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>>146461684
The Gaping Dragon may be the single best boss in terms of visual design in the whole Dark Souls series. You show it to anyone and they immediately go "what the fuck is this game".
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>>146461775
>defending headcanon
>advocating stone plates
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>>146461869
>headcanon
>when almost all of it is fact
>and the rest is either close to true or can be interpreted/inferred from the rest
and stone plates are bretty good in PvE, the +2 variants can sometimes be the difference between life and death on harder difficulties.
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>>146461816
i still get invasions in the burg on my SL1 dickwraith, if that helps
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>>146461775
>>146461995
cite your sources, no reaching
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Which one of you fuckers just fell off a cliff after you summoned me
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What's the dsg approved method of souls farming? mimic hat + ring + shield of want + anor londo knight trio?
I want to hit 125 asap and do some pontiff duels with my second character, wiki doesn't really give a clear answer
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>>146462423
mini smoughs atop archives/drakeblood at archpeak
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>>146462461
thanks
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>>146462423
I personally enjoy fighting the Ascended Winged Knights for those dank soul drops, even if they're a bit out of the way
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>Kind of want to make a gimmick build around the Firelink Greatsword
>no clue how this thing scales with all the different requirements
Send help for the dim
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>>146461869
>>146462027
I wasn't the same guy, but Oceiros is obviously the king just in his title, the queen is certainly implied to have left him in the blessings, Lothric is a place that tamed drakes all over according to some of the knight gear (while also hunting them, I remember that standing out as being weird), Lothric's and Lorian's fuckups are on their armour, weapons and souls, his obsession with Seath and the archives is on his own soul

Not sure about where Ocelotte being stillborn is from though, nor Oceiros trying to save the world.

Also the stoneplate cuts ten percent of the lava damage you colossal fucking faggot. You can just take it off after you know.
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>>146457485
if you use Bandit Knife with Rouge, he bleeds every 2 hits and you can kill him before he even enters phase 2
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>play The Old Hunters
>make it to Innsmouth and generally having fun despite getting walled by Ludwig
>find the giant fish man and kill him first time
>"Oh that wasn't so bad, I wonder why everyone was bitching about it"
>go down the well

I don't think I'll be able to finish this DLC.
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>>146462520
d/d str/dex m8
It even has the D/D at +5
Just go for 40/40/10/10 or 35/35/10/10 with rings or something
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>>146462746
Shaman Bone Blade
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>>146462669
Shouldn't brigand daggers be better for that? Applies bleed faster i think, what is the fastest bleed application weapon even?
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Where do I go after killing the witch of henwick?
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>>146462746
You can do it. Use the cannon if you have to.
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>>146462889
Go the opposite direction from Amelia, to the forest.
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>>146462520
D/D str/dex

That's fucking all
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>they actually did it the absolute madmen
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>>146462027
Divine blessing tells us that the queen fled the castle after giving birth to Ocelotte. There ad to be a reason that she left. She was revered as a godess, so I doubt there were assassins after her.
=
The soul of Oceiros tells us that he wanted to harness his blood for a greater purpose, which led him to the heretics(key word) of the Grand Archives, and in turn led him to Seath, the Paledrake. The fact that they are heretics means there has to be a reason why seath is scorned; perhaps his works are cursed?
=
From the White Dragon Breath sorcery, we know that he was "edified"(he learned) from the "divine" works of an old sorcerer, who made the power of seath his own. The fact that he learned from this leads me to believe that he wanted to harness seaths power for his own as well.(this is conjecture)From the three characters associated with seath(logan, the duke, oceiros), all of them went mad, and two of them learned from seath. is that a coincidence?
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Lothrics cinders tell us that the bloodline was obsessed with creating an heir, and they turned to "unspeakable" means. Do I really need to explain this point? Also, It is said in the twin princes' soul that Lothric left to watch the fire fade.
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According to the dragonscale ring, he was fascinated with dragons and eventually went mad.(conjecture)Again, the three people we see related to seath all go mad. Oceiros was more dedicated than the others; the world(in his eyes) rested on his shoulders; Whose to say he wouldn't go farther than the others?
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And, from the game files, we know that Ocelotte is dead. Whether or not this is a viable source is subjective.
=
I didn't proofread this, so there is probably useless information/loose ends in it. If you have any more questions, please ask. I'll do my best to answer them.
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>>146462878
Brigand has no bleed. Bandit has like 33 built in to it.
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>>146462834
Thanks, was thinking about running around with it one handed with the Pyromancy Flame in the other
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>>146462980
kek
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>>146462980
i'm proud of you bongs
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Other than high wall and farron bridge what are some good places to host an fc?
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>>146463336
sullyman bonfire
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>>146463002
>any random hobo can be LoC if he grinds huge amount of souls
>Gwyndolin created false prophecy and idiots jumped to the fire as intended
>nah, better to experiment on my own children
>my firtsborn is badass knight, who can gather enough powerful souls? GTFO and shut up, Lothric would be LoC
>he also will be king, despite of he will burn one day
>and got entire army to protect himself from fire-fanatics
>oh, what an amazing dragon porn I`ve in this Archives
>who gives a fuck about fire, better to fuck my wife in my new scaly suit
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>>146463336
anywhere with fairly level ground and a raised area for spectator/fight queue
gorgeous view ahead optional but it helps
i thought kiln of the first flame looked nice but maybe a bit too uneven ground
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>>146463018
WOW thats a beautiful picture
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Guaranteed second hit should be removed.
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>>146463613
back to poise souls 1
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>>146462878
sorry, i don't actually know
but light attack is a double hit, i see why you would think they're better
i'll try them on the Sage later today
they don't have Bleed on them though, so Rouge or infusion will have to do all the work
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has the poise = more hyper armor meme been tested?
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>>146464062
yes and it's been confirmed

if you have more poise than 0, you have more hyperarmor on some specific weapon types
there's no difference other than that
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>>146463336
Smouldering Lake where the worm was
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>>146464374
This desu.
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>>146464374
Leave the ballista on :^)
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>>146464374
actually the horace lake is petty gud too.
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>Game
>Gameâ„¢ II
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>>146464567
Game
GAMEâ„¢ II
GAME III
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>have to choose between not being able to bash people with my chime or not being able to both light my candlestick & have gentle prayer active

damned from soft
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>>146464567
be ready... to experience... true DARK SOULSâ„¢...difficulty...yeeeess
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>>146464751
well that's one character ready
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Hodrick vs Creighton

Who beats whose asses?

I feel that Creighton doesn't get enough credit as he's easily one of the most aggressive invaders in the game, if not the most aggressive.
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ALRIGHT /dsg/
I'm going to make the most cancerous build ever
Dark sword
Grass crest
Lefstoc when low hp
Full fallen knight set
Give me a name for this faggot
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>>146465416
>DaS
>JRPG
NICEMEME

>Give me a name for this faggot
Faggot
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>>146465251
noice, whats your build m8?
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>>146465347
grandpa by a country mile
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>>146465416
at what lvl?
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>>146465504
either 80 or 120, yet to make up my mind
Or maybe I'll stay at 60 and leave aldrich alive to just fuck with invaders
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>>146465416
sasuke
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>>146465416
Guts
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>>146465416
>Grass crest
christ at least use a good shield like black knight or lothric knight shield

also lefstoc 100% of the time is better than dark sword
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>>146465347
the one that parries
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>>146465416
K***ht Solaire
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>>146465462
22/18/15/base/12/12/base/50/base
slightly altered from pic related

currently making the paladin
could I find an excuse to a lightning infused dragonslayer axe or does it not fit paladin at all. I want to get the most out of my lightning crutch ring
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>>146465630
Can you parry Creighton's axe?
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Redpill me on Pyromancer build for 120

>should I try to level both FAI and INT equally
>starting class (pyro?)
>essential rings (gr8 swamp and witch?)
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>>146465696
everything but jumping attack(maybe weapon art?) is parryable for it
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>>146465696
never tried, but it's like any other axe
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>>146464374
i tried there before and no one came
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>>146465808
too high of an SL to be competitive as a caster unless you go spellblade
in which case you're just better off with the bare minimums or only using carthus flame arc on a quality build
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>>146464482
Unfortunately this doesnt work, i've been part of a test before and even with a seed it doesnt target nor hurts red phantoms
>>146464483
Oh great idea
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>>146465416
I changed my name to gutstorias now but you get the idea.
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>>146465886
fuck me how do you get so many souls
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>>146465808
go 87
faith and int should be leveled equally, unles a spell you want has a higher requirement in one over the other. Don't go past 30 in either.
great swamp, witch, sage if it affects pyromancies
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>>146465996
CE
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>>146465808
>>146465864
I have a 120 pyro and it actually kinda works
Basicallt get base requirements for the weapons you want to use, infuse with Dark/Chaos/Lightning/Crystal and theres the melee part
Spells are actually decent unless you run into someone whos both a vit-gouge AND hyper-aggressive
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anywhere i can get a good table? can't find technojacker's for some reason. i wanna try a chainmom build for once or something similar, but the building is killing me out of boredom
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>>146466121
https://d.maxfile.ro/lruiauswnx.CT
4 U
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>>146466086
>black serpent
what a memer
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>if you do an R1 after a jumping attack you do a rolling attack

WAIT HOLD UP WHAT?
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>>146466170
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>>146466252
only one handed jump attacks

try with it with a great hammer for maximum fuck
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=3drKdr6JGVE
GOD SAVE US ALL
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>>146465251
and that's two
now we just wait for tomorrow
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>>146466369
>may 10
also it's absolute trash
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>>146466475
ayy cathedral bros
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>>146466598
I was planning on using cathedral shield too, but I noticed none of the paladin images I found seemed to have the large rectangular shield
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Just invaded fire link and the host was flying around, on ps4, the fuck was that?
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>>146463009
Supposedly, the actual bleed percent on infused bandit daggers is the highest in the game.
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>>146464374
>>146464482
so balista on or off?
>>
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JloKc3SOKY
>when the fucking tailbone shortsword is enough to kill some people
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are they even trying?
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>>146467054
dist is just way more dedicated
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>>146466207
Its actually not that bad, usually people roll through it into a black flame-R1 combo or godamn vestiges
>>146466957
Doesnt matter unless the host jumps in, it doesnt even fire as long as the host stays on the ledge
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>>146466086
Is vestiges better than gcfo? I've had my luck hitting gcfo with free aiming but the damage is lacking all around (450~500 at 40/40 with witch's ring).
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>>146463336
Halfway bonfire!
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>>146466836
a meme
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>>146466836
>invaded firelink

U wot m8?
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>>146467223
Sorry meant kiln of the first flame, anyway figured it out, was some shenanigans with tears of denial
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>>146467172
If you cant free-aim for shit, vestiges is better; especially with how fast it is now.
Damage-wise with Witch ring it does around 550 in my experiences
GCFO does have better combos because of the lava it leaves
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I heard that the barbed straight sword is quite good for dex/luck builds, how does it perform compared to the traditional warden blades and thief knife?
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>>146467172
firewhip into poke with estoc/spear is a realy good combo btw
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>>146467453
it's shit bleed builds are a meme
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>>146467184
Halfway fortress right? where horice and anri are
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>>146467453
wardens is better imo, you may as well use a normal ss, but its a nice option for a bleed build
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>>146467589
Bonfire gets in the way, don't listen to the retard
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>>146467687
But it is so comfy. :(

>>146467589
Yeah.
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>>146467687
i'm making a bunch of save back ups so it dosn't hurt to have it
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Moonlight GS or GS of Judgement?
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>>146467817
Moonlight, Judgement is the worst gs
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>>146467817
anything but GSoJ
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>>146467817
my guiding moonlight
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>>146467535
What makes you think so? Scales with luck instead of strength. And with hollow weapons giving extra luck it gives you 10 free levels. Not to mention they bleed as well.
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No new patches?
>>146419521
You know what worse? He actually had high chance to luck parry you at 0:10 if not netcode.
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>>146467817
you know how bluemoon greatsword was a moonlight greatsword knockoff except good?

gs of judgement is the same except bad
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>>146467945
patch on the 31st
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>>146467895
PCucks never played Bloodborne, they don't know that line.
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>>146461548
Is Oceiros really the founder of the Lothric kingdom? I thought it already had quite a long history with established castes system and religion.
>>
HOW RARE IS THE FUCKING HANDMAIDS DAGGER
I JUST WANT A FAST OFFHAND TO GO WITH MY EXILE GREATSWORD
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>>146468232
pretty common, want one?
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>>146465251
Oh shit, did I help you with Dancer earlier? I was a swamp witch cosplayish thing, spammed the shit out of Vestiges.
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>>146468020
Haha, cucks. Sony for life.
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>>146460695
Arty and Ivory King, I'm a sucker for the fallen heroes type.
>>
I come in peace.
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>>146468232
Drops like candy.
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>>146468269
I WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE ONE, YES
I'M ON PS4
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>>146468232
not rare at all
there are many handmaids
you are wearing symbol of avarice, right? rusted coins, offhand sage rapier, gold serpent ring?
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>>146465864
>too high of an SL to be competitive as a caster
>120SL
Don't listen this autist. Caster builds viable only at 100SL+
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>>146468412
that's unfortunate. good luck
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Any tips for a sorcerer build? I want to leave it around SL60-80, to invade.
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>>146468424
not the sage rapier, I'll go get that
maybe i'll get it next run
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>>146468454
>it's le casters are good at high SL meme again
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>>146468454
Eh, Pyro's and Spellblade Sorcerers only if you're talking about duels
Pure faith is a bit iffy with all the trades you'll do with Spears/WoG
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>>146468674

How strong is WoG in this game? I heard it has a long cast time, but does it make up for it by having borderline 1 shot potential like in DaS2?
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>>146468886
Not that strong, its alright vs multiple invaders/phantoms but on its own its kinda shit compared to its DS1/2 counterparts
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What are some decent weapons for a pyromancer? Preferably nothing that is a great/ultra weapon.
>>
ay yo is there a fight club going on or what
>>
I GIVE UP
I DON'T WANT THE DAMN DAGGER ANYMORE
I'LL JUST BE A CAESTUSFAG
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>>146468597
>it's le casters are bad because I can't spam CSS anymore
>>146468674
Oh course when people asking about pyro/sorc builds they don't wanna be "that guy" who BC after failed CSS 1shot under obscuring ring
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>>146469083
thrall axe
rapier/estoc
ass
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIlIMesYI8
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Alright anyone up for an fc? pc ofc
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>>146469725
what sl?
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>>146469782
host is SL80 so 80-120 should work fine
>>
>people still spreading misinfo about SL120 caster viability
lmao look at all those points in vig you can get yourself, go to 120, my mage man :^)
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>>146469725
I'm in
Where at
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>>146469640
cute!!!
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>>146469819
???
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>>146469725
>>146469870
take your pick i'll host wherever most people want it at
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>>146469725
Dilapidated good for an evening fc.
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>>146469725
Oh boy FC time, name the location and i'll be there
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>>146469725
>>146469910
I'll vote dilapidated too, haven't actually joined any FCs there
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>>146470090
But it is 14:00?
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>>146469725
dilapidated sounds good
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>>146462878
>>146463814
just did it, those things are not good at all
you need to hit him several times with the double hit attack to proc bleed
also, you have to put one dagger away to parry

i'm sl1 though, maybe it's different with high Luck
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PC FC at Dilapidated bonfire
password: dsg
Put your signs on top of this broken bride thing lads
>>
Does anyone have any advice on how to mitigate the gradual brain damage suffered from grinding concords? I'm only at 13 ears and I've already forgotten how to swallow and sitting here gurgling in a pool of my own spit while killing silver knights kind of sucks
>>
>>146470524

It's just like 2-3 hours of farming lad
I mean a singleplayer game should never make you farm a single thing but it's bearable, just watch something on the side
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>>146470268
>all these STR bullies
I see how it is
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>>146470819
roll nigga roll
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>guy went on 12 kill streak in my fc with a whip and pickaxe
holy fuck
>>
i kind of want to make a DS1 character, but it's probably pretty dead
i wish they'd remaster it honestly
>>
>>146470595

You had better luck than I am then, I just hit 600000 souls and only got one ear which is like a 120 knights or something

Maybe 391 item find isn't enough and I'll wait until NG++ where I can stack covetous gold serpent +2 and the crystal rapier that I passed on because I'm an idiot
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Does upgrading Bloodlust increase the bleed damage it does to you? I wanna be able to sudoku in case I lose a duel
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I'm taking a break from the fc got to eat and do shit with the family
Be back in maybe 20 minutes
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>>146470992
Probably
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>>146470914
are you on PC?
>>
What is the best bleed weapon?
>>
>>146470268

What SL?
>>
>>146470992
it will never be enough to kill you
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>>146471068
what the fuck
I just wanna sudoku like I could in DS2
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Anyone want to do a PS4 fightclub?
I can host.
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>>146470914

Yes, just wait until you can have max. item discovery. It's not like you are in a hurry or the buff is actually that good, despite what obobobo fans think
>>
>>146471062
host is SL 80 so anything above 100 will be downscaled 120s should be fine though
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>>146471097
>what to do now
bully the ayylmao
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>>146471096
What sl?
>>
>>146471068
>>146471085
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFz9gB1fo08
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>>146471251
Wait what, the stab hurts other?
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>>146471231
I can do 80 or 120
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>>146471428
I would rather do 120
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>>146471365
Same as in Dark Souls 2

Note the damage it does to him and the invaders even though he doesnt have the stats for it
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>>146471365

Always did
Yoshimitsu as fuck
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>>146471515
If i get more response ill set it up
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Is Farron Hail still useless? It's pretty meh even at close distance after patch
>>146471704
Not worth it. PS4 is dead here.
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>>146471827
This whole thread is dead
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>>146472070
just wait for the american hours to start
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We're finally back at the level of activity there was before das3 was released.
>>
thanks for the dark hand vincent
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>>146462520
Just fucking test it out.
what
>>
>>146472171
Estus free HP replenishment, ayo
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>>146471827
>gets hit by dick sword 10 feet out of range

anybody who uses straight swords in pvp at this point in time has to use a mechanical error in the game to get anything done. You can fucking tell hes trying to abuse the phantom range as well by starting his r1 spam while crazy out of range. it's sad really
>>
How long until the dlc comes out?
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>>146472149
hackers killed pc desu
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>>146472149
the DLC can't come soon enough
>>
Thanks for Fc guys fat man out.
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>>146471827
It's pretty good. Use it at midrange, it covers a huge area with multihitting projectiles and combos for great damage if it catches someone.
>>
I think I'm almost getting bored of das3. I've got a lot of fun builds I want to do but the replay value is slowly dwindling, and I win almost all of my duels at this point

Thinking about snagging a ps4 just for BB and hopefully its sequel. are there any other decent sony exclusive titles I should check out as well?
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>>146472318
Excited for dlc for obvious reasons of the bordem in ds3.
Not excited to have to force myself through another area to get what I need if I make a new character.
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>>146472340
cya m8
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>>146472276
Wow, a smaller head? Experience ruined, I'm outta here
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>>146472276
But it's a good thing newfags are gone.
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>>146472409
Gotta say, I'm out of state for a few months and decided to buy a ps4 and BB while I'm here.

Alot of people say the best from games go like
DS1>BB>x Its so damn true. BB was fun as shit.

Also, not exclusive but Destiny Taken King is worth checking out if you get it on sale.
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>>146472409
disgaea 5
that's about it outside of movie games like until dawn

diablo 3 reaper of souls is good on ps4, much better than it ever was on pc

>>146472539
it's so great now that everyone here is a bitter shitposter instead of clueless newfags, I agree
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>>146472539
Literally shitters always here.
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>>146471097
dunno, maybe end your autistic self
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>>146472524
>Wow, a guy who spams sunlightspear at 100 casts a second?
>Wow, a guy who drops an item and everyone who's invaded him now has max equip load?
>Wow, a guy running around with chaos blade at sanic speeds OHK people?

yeah it kinda ruins the experience
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Anyone done a run of this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5varLsEUaI
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did someone just get killed by the giant shooting arrows in the fc?
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>Miyazaki-sama, the players are all complaining about how we fucked over invaders
>What should we do?

>Allow hosts to change covenants to way of blue when invaded
>Also break Farron Watchdogs and Blue Sentinels / Darkmoons for steam family sharers that actually managed to get summoned
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>>146472641
Your fault for being an american and playing during american peak times. I have seen exactly one hacker in my 350 hours.
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astora glitchsword fix when?
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>>146472641
>>Wow, a guy who spams sunlightspear at 100 casts a second?
>>Wow, a guy who drops an item and everyone who's invaded him now has max equip load?
Today on things that have never happened
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>>146472558
>Destiny
Last I checked destiny was basically overwatch but where everyone played as McCree. So basically overwatch with two smoke bombs, unlimited rolls, and a sniper.
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>>146472724

Working as intended.
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>>146472735
it's like you don't even play the game, CE tables are in OP and there is nothing stopping people from using them for online play
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>>146470909
>but it's probably pretty dead
it's surprisingly alive, the plebbit reboot day helped quite a bit
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>>146472276
From killed DS3.
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>>146472784
Nicely played gentleman. Ah, a take on the 'poise is working as intended' phrase I see? Simply MARVELLOUS!!! I am indeed delighted!
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>>146472641
Can't see those in your pic, can you point them out?
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>>146472558
>>146472617
>TTK
>diablo

Im burnt out on diablo and I wont even look at destiny until 2 with what bungo did to it in balance patch that killed the game for me

Ill check out disgea 5 though thanks guys
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>>146472735
Second one happened to me. It was also an asshole who did irmt in middle of all my rolls as his non-hacking friend tried to kill me with soul stream since that's the only way to hit it.

Lucky I managed to run when they focused on another invader and started eating up an invasion space.
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>>146472641

>Happening once every 100 invasions
>Ruining anything
Sounds like you're just a console tard trying to start shit
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>>146472825
there's no item that maxes your equip load
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>>146472717
>Miyazaki-sama, the players are all complaining about how we fucked over invaders

What makes you think From has seen any of your complaints? It's the Japanese audience they care about.
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>>146472751
The "raids" can be fun.
Pvp is sniper training and thats all any person uses.

I personally use to enjoy mmo's. So the whole gearing up and "raiding" appeals to me.
But once again, if its on sale.
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Any way to bypass the censorship on names? I want to have a Knight named Knight.
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>>146472825
If you follow the guidelines for not getting banned are you safe?
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>>146472986
see >>146472906
really aren't familiar with CE are you?
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BB feels so weird after DS3 especially rolls. It's like DS3 character has no any weight and has sonic speed.
>>146472149
At least DS3 is not dead on PS4 like BB.
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>>146473154

Name yourself "KNIGHT" instead.
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>>146473154
Tips on a faith build?
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>>146473154
If you type the name in all caps it won't get censored
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>>146473209
he's clearly lying. first day on an imageboard?
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>>146473243
>>146473254
That looks ugly as fuck, though.
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I got 40/40 and wondering what infusion I should use on the dragonslayer's axe. Sharp or refined?
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>>146473289
fuck off then
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>>146472642
>Obscuring ring

Now this is Dark Souls.
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Anyone have tips on how to make a viable faith build?
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>>146473250
>faith build
Use your brain. It's not rocket science. Or watch e-celebs/google guides
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>FC host invaded by hacker
nice
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>>146473310
refined
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>>146473325
>fucking with people in the shit swamp with obscuring ring
>to prevent healthbar showing just cast caressing tears every moment or so
hehehaheuh
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>>146473413
:(
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>>146473315
o-okay
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>>146473231
I'm assuming I frames work the same in BB? aslo is the quick dash in BB the equivalent to a backstep in das?
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>>146473549
this is you on the picture with your family. see that
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>>146473539

When you're locked on, you quickstep, which has less invincibility frames than a roll, which you perform when unlocked. However, the quickstep covers more distance. It's not always a good idea to use quickstep in every situation. Some bosses/enemies can be dealt with more easily when you switch between the two. (At least in my experience.)
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>old demon king hammer +5 30/30/30 & fire clutch
>try WA
>250 damage
Epic, simply epic. Nice game Miyazaki
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>>146472642
>that first comment
>this has to be shown to oro and peeve
>two exclusively pvp players, one of which doesn't even play 3 as far as I know
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>>146473727
your fault for making a retarded build
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>>146473727

The weapon balance is fucking awful.
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>>146473778
This. Where's the DaS2 balance team? They made DaS2 good.
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>>146473747
Are you baiting someone just so you can reply

>watches oro or peeve
?
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>>146473727
>land first hit of ODK WA
>mash R2 madly to trigger the followup literally as soon as the game will allow it
>they roll out safely in the space between the first and following hits
>the first hit does 0 damage anyways, and is just a stagger
They really, really, really didn't even bother with ultra weapons. They just didn't fucking care.
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>>146473747
Youtube comments are cancer, what is new?
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>>146473836
>watching oro or peeve
dumbfuck
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>>146473549
your gay
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>>146473815
The DaS2 balance team didn't make 90% of that game's weapons even usable until the sunken DLC patch. Prior to that the game was nothing but chaosblades, backstab fishing, parry fishing and whatever fotm buff-carrier could instantkill you with a 4 hit combo in that patch iteration.
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>>146472642
stop shilling
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>>146473772
>meeting weapon requirements and maximizing fire damage output with reasonable stat investment
>build
Fuck off retard
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>>146473815
>Where's the DaS2 balance team
thankfully not touching any souls game ever again
>warped sword, longsword, estoc never getting ANY nerfs for the entirety of ds2 lifespan despite being the objectively strongest weapons
>BUFFED fucking katana counter damage multiple times
>nerfed all fun spells to the ground, went as far as deliberately removing main features of some spells like tracking on blinding bolt
>removed even a fucking golf swing
>nerfed all good powerstance combinations
>never even touched jesters
>never nerfed robflynn
and that's just a fucking tip of the iceberg
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>>146473836
I don't even know what you're implying.
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>>146473917
Shh dude, this general is now reddit territory and DaS2 was the best Souls game period.
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>>146473945
none of your attack stats are at softcaps
the only retarded piece of shit here is you so blame your own stupidity
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>>146474018
DS2 always was and always will be hated here no matter how hard a few ds2 autists will try to shitpost about it.
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Will Orbeck leave if I defeat any four bosses without giving him a scroll? Or after I give him one he won't leave anymore?
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>>146473945
>maximizing fire damage

There's your issue faggot, you should go STR instead. Infused pyro weapons have actual good fire scaling, but hammer, or the gargoyle ones are awful at it.
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>>146474018
>implying reddit likes 2
They're DaS1 babies through and through. Hell, that's why they organized an event just for the sake of dragging DaS3 players back to one so they could keep circlejerking it. Reddit were some of the first to jump on /v/ "DaS2 is bad because it's not exactly the same as 1, m-muhzaki" meme bandwagon.

All's I'm sayin' is that DaS3's balance will remain shit and 99% of weapons will remain unusable trash while 90% of WA's just flat out don't work right up until the DLC is ready to be released. Now that the game has been out for a few months we've stepped out of the post-release support period, so patches will be rare and infrequent,. and usually just in response to gamebreaking bugs rather than balance issues.
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>>146473815
The same team that nerfed FTH into the ground? Ebin.
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>>146474154
You just have to give him one scroll before killing 4 bosses and he'll stay until his quest is finished.
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>>146473747
They did do that one NG+7 co-op playthrough with aggro mod and gravelord phantoms.
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>>146474172
Reddit fucking jerks it to ds2.
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>>146474172
>99% of weapons will remain unusable
This is a blatant lie.
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>>146473712
word thanks sport
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>>146474172
>99% of weapons will remain unusable trash
>It's not me who's bad I swear
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>>146473937
>1 dislike

I guess we know who that is.
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>>146473997
Both of them play dark souls 3 and both of them have done a co-op playthrough of dark souls 1 with aggression mod together. It's not a big important mistake, so I just assumed you were baiting to see if someone actually watched those e-celebs.
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>>146474172
>99% of weapons will remain unusable trash while 90% of WA's just flat out don't work right
level up your skill baddie
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>>146474320

You're welcome.
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>>146474261
>>146474368
Oh
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>>146474331
>>146474382
>trying to use heavy weapons against any skilled turtle
hahahahaha, das3 enables turtling so hard it's unbelievable, even katanas can turtle
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>>146473549
"alt-right" babbies are cancer, but what the fuck does this have to do with the discussion?
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>>146474063
I don't need to softcap to see that the weapon is a piece of shit, just like you
>>146474170
If I wanted to maximize str, I'd use a different weapon altogether
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>>146474452
this your first souls game?
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>>146474452
turtling being an overpowered tactic since des has nothing to do with a general weapon balance which is better than in any souls game two months after its release
on top of that turtling is not even as strong as ds2 one
acquire ability
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Hollow or Refined Exile GS?
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>>146474560
hollow quality one
it has like 596 AR
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>>146474557
>better than in any souls game
pff hahahahah, there are like 5 good weapons and the rest are trash and if you deny it you're delusional as fuck. Nothing gets close to lucerne, pole, o+u, carthus and estoc.
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>>146474557
nice pic, I wish I could see shit
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>>146474560
what sl? on pretty much any weapon, hollow will be the best choice but it needs a huge investment
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>>146474671
Don't blame him for DS2's horrible art direction
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>>146473985
>BUFFED fucking katana counter damage multiple times
They needed it, because katanas were pretty shitty in DaS2 after the running attack nerfs and combo removal
>nerfed all fun spells to the ground
Was soul geyser 3k damage "fun" when you could spam that shit and kill any boss in seconds? No
>nerfed all good powerstance combinations
You mean broken bullshit like greataxe + ultra weapon, this kid thinking 2k damage L1s with straight sword speed was okay
>never even touched jesters
Not necessary
>never nerfed robflynn
Not necessary
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>>146474651
>there are like 5 weapons i don't suck with
we all already understood that, trash
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>>146474636
Alright, thanks!
>>146474672
I was thinking of SL120, I think that should be more than enough.
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Alright FC host, gud times dying in cosplay, going to go make progress on my Pyromancer character for now
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Alright signs have died down, so fc host is gonna get off for a while
thanks for coming
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>>146474718
there are 5 weapons that everyone can't suck with and those absolutely demolish the pvp experience. If you use any weapon that aren't those you're gimping yourself and if you win against someone using those weapons is because they are bad. It's simple fact, you can't prove me wrong.
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>>146474765
hollow all the way. also consider hollow carthus cgs
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>>146474803
name them
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>>146474715
>Was soul geyser 3k damage "fun" when you could spam that shit and kill any boss in seconds? No
YES. That's why I fucking play sorcerers in games. To nuke shit to kingdom come.
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>>146474797
thanks for hosting, was fun
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>>146474863
>>146474651
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>>146474715
>They needed it
sure as fuck needed it with their rollcatching attacks and already ridiculous damage output
not even the most braidnead ds2 drones are defending CB counter damage buff
>Was soul geyser 3k damage "fun" when you could spam that shit and kill any boss in seconds
funnier than it being literally worse than soul spear
>You mean broken bullshit
i mean actually strong and deserving the stat investment to use them
>Not necessary
oh hey i sure found sl150 jester robflynn shitter
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>>146474902
oh so you are shit posting
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>>146473621
>dr pepper
nice try, but fake and gay
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>>146474803
Your shitty experience is not objective in any shape or form and given that you named a fucking onigiri as one of those weapons shows your lack of experience with weapons in this game.
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>>146474269
Every Greathammer
Every UGS
Every Greataxe except DSGA/BKGA (hornet-riposte tools only) and Yhorm's
Every Greatsword except Hollowslayer, MLGS and, to a lesser extent, Claymore (just a shittier Hollowslayer but at least usable)
Every bow that isn't the composite bow
Manikin Claws
Every Dagger that isn't the Corvian Greatknife
Greatbows in general
Literally every Mace
Every Scythe
Greatlance, Yorshka's Spear, Saint Bident, Soldering Iron, Golden Ritual Spear
Eleonora, Hand Axe, Brigand's Axe, Battleaxe
And basically every Whip that isn't the Witch's Locks

And even in the weapon categories not mentioned (eg. curved swords) where every weapon has an objectively good moveset that dumps on all the shit listed above, there are plenty of weapons that are absolutely worthless and no reason to ever be used due to being direct downgrades to another identical weapon or having no reach/AR despite a moveset that can mindlessly crush anything. Why use Bloodlust when it's just a downgrade to other katanas with a worthless WA? Why use any curved sword that isn't the Carthus Curved Sword when it's a direct upgrade to every single one of them?

The overwhelming majority of weapons in the game, even the ones that are better than those listed above, lose flat-out to anything top-tier. The gulf in power and usability is so massive it's not even funny. And inb4 someone claims "well I beat pontiff shitters who walk into my attacks and let me hit them so there's no problem with balance"
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>>146474949
I don't see you proving me wrong. Accusing me of shitposting means nothing, it's just a cop out because you really can't prove I am wrong.

>>146475027
It is. There are no better options than those weapons in any situation. Onikiri is pure cancer with its 20f knee lock into 1300 damage combo and absurd headshot tracking. I have yet to lose using this concentrated cancer and that's on an unoptimized quality/luck build. You can just mash R1 and L2 with a lucerne and win 90% of the time. Same with Carthus and the Estoc is just plain silly.
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>>146475063
stop treating dark souls, fucking DARK SOULS like a fighting game

youre worse than smash sniffers
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>>146475195
No.
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>>146474803
>win roughly 90/95% of my duels
>don't use any form of "meta weapon"
>90/95% of palyers are fucking trash

actually...this seems about right. But at the same time a good player can play well with any weapon so really it isn't that a certain weapon is any more viable than another(outliers excluded) but that some people git gud while others stay trash
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>>146475063
i forced myself to read this list up to greatbows and i see no reason to even argue with you because you're amazingly retarded
protip: greataxes are insanely powerful in free invasions
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>>146475195
>point out valid issues in a game's mechanical design and numerical balance
>"s-stop playing pvp in this game that includes pvp as a feature, dark souls 3 is perfect as long as you don't play the bad parts"
You're adorable when you run out of arguments.
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>>146475160
Onigiri is destroyed by a simple passive game and constant backrolls during their every attempt to do an l2.
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>>146475063
>Ever counting greatbows for other than invasion shenanigans
You might be autistic.
>Every UGS
Loving Every Laugh
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>>146475063
Pretty much this. The game is so terribly balanced in the weapons department its actually quite saddening. Not to mention the system problems.

>>146475257
Sure, you can win with a harpe. Doesn't mean it's complete fucking garbage compared to a Corvian Great Knife.
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>>146475368
What are you talking about? I'm not the guy above dumb fuck.
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No seriously how do you make a viable faith build
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>>146475063
I think your list is full of shit.
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>>146474943
>rollcatching attacks
Rolls don't cause counter damage.
>already ridiculous damage output
No, they didn't have anything of the sort. Merely as strong as Longsword outside of counter damage with a far worse moveset.
>CB counter damage buff
Seriously? I thought you were referring to the 130% katanas being raised to 150%.
10% CB counter damage boost is nothing and doesn't make up for the self-damage that allows people to roll chunks of your health away.
>worse than soul spear
It isn't. It still does like 1.5x the damage.
>i mean actually strong and deserving the stat investment to use them
Don't even try to defend the 4k damage L1 combos.
>oh hey i sure found sl150 jester robflynn shitter
I actually prefer SL200 heavy armor builds. Flynn is balanced by having shit phys defense and no poise. Heavy armor hard counters flynn.
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>>146475457
Put a lot of points into faith, and then a bunch into attunement as well.
Buff your weapon with lightning blade and fish for sunlight spear HA trades and hope your opponent is stupid.
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>>146475376
>A queen is destroyed by 2 rooks
See how retarded you sound
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>>146475457
you pump all the stats to 99
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>>146475493
>Merely as strong as Longsword
>merely as strong as objectively the best weapon type in entire game that can deal ugs-tier damage when buffed
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>>146475457
You spam spells and pray that your opponent can't roll.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIW7Ho4xMa4

Best lyrics
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>>146475534
>comparing tactics to material
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>>146472642
Better question:
Has anyone else been invading with it yet?
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>>146475618
In terms of AR. Longsword is the best weapon in the game. Katanas merely have comparable AR. They don't have the godlike moveset.
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>>146475618
>merely as strong as objectively the best weapon type in entire game that can deal ugs-tier damage when buffed
No it can't. Sure it gets good damage when buffed, but UGS gets a lot more damage when buffed.
And both don't do shit when buffed if opponent has good elemental resistances.
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>>146475657

>not alonne's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svtVB0BvDPg

>tfw it doesn't really have lyrics
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>>146475376
2kat is a katana, m8.
It's primary form of offense, defense, spacing, pressure, countering, and playing is just passive WD spam.

The WA isn't it's primary form of attack, it's just a counter tool that punishes obvious attacks with a 1200 damage punish. Like literally every katana in the game it plays by backpedaling, staying at a distance and poking with unpunishable WD spam until their opponent makes a mistake.

Its only disadvantage vs other katanas is not having access to the slightly better 2HWD.

Why do you idiot theory duelists always rely on your hypothetical opponent being some mindless pontiff-tier retard that just spams a punishable attack until you win? You realize good players don't do that shit, right?
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>>146475618
yeah but katanas are slower, consume more stamina, don't have the godlike moveset and lack the amazing roll catch (the only one who does have the rollcatch has shitty infusions, meaning buffs are worthless on it)
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>>146475457
60 Faith
Firstborn ring
Morne ring
24/30 Att
Gouge that vig nigga
Get canvas talisman
Spear/Stake your opponent till victory
Dont forget a raw ASS

Alternatively; regen build
Anri's/Raw ASS with blessed weapon/Blessed SS
Chime off-hand with WA active
Regen miracle
sun ring
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>>146475618
I'd rather have longswords need a buff in order to do UGS damage than deal with DaS3's system where they deal UGS-tier damage without needing a buff.
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>>146475767
>wd spam with one of the shortest katanas
you can try
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>>146475801
Thanks famalam
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>>146475815
It really, really doesn't make much difference.
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>>146475815
phantom range is fucking retarded in das3
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Red Hilted Halberd is pure cancer weapon
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>>146475897
if you're shit sure
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>>146475806
DS2 longswords already had ridiculous damage output on top of having literally perfect moveset, ds3 moveset is nowhere nearly as versatile.
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>>146475815
phantom range is fucking retarded in das3
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>>146475897
Hilarious how many people walk into it when the WA is active.
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>>146475943
Curved swords moveset is.
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>>146475943
The 1HR1s in 3 are better and the comically bad hitboxes that unironically give straightswords UGS range makes it even better
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>>146475972
Even without WA it's cancer. Especially in gank squads
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>>146475493
katanas had their own playstyle focused on roll punishes and wd spam even after the wd speed nerf, shit like blacksteel had retarded baits and combos
there was LITERALLY no need to give them counter bonus on top of that enabling 700 damage per r1
also don't be a retard and don't compare anything with longswords unless you don't want to be seen as extremely incompetent, longswords needed a good AR reduction as well
>It still does like 1.5x the damage.
for the time you can shoot one geyser you can spam anything with soul spears into oblivion
they have retarded stat and slot requirement and shit cast amount, they are nowhere nearly as good as actually viable ds2 sorceries
that's on top of other unnecessarily nerfed magical shit
>4k damage L1 combos
better than no l1 combos at all
>Heavy armor hard counters flynn
oy let me just take my warped swords in two hands and equip stone ring, i will sure notice your heavy armor
>>
>theory dueling general
>even worse, theory dueling assuming both players are complete trash
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>>146474715
>nerfed all fun spells to the ground
Geyser is literally the only one that they nerfed to the ground. Every. Other. Spell. Is viable.
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I've played a ton of DS3 and have had tons of fun in pvp but I can't fucking do it anymore, I can't wait for 10 minutes rolling all over the place until the future loser decide to attack, I can't deal with the korean getting damaged a full second after the actual hit (usually during their roll). The mechanics are solid and fun but there are a few critical flaws and balance issue
>>
tfw no /dsg/ bf
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>>146476430
Gays not welcome
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>>146476423

They should just add poise and instant backstabs back.
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>>146475063
Fuck off Scott, I know it's you, you insufferable faggot.
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>>146476331
this
even fucking splintering lightning bolt has a use in narrow areas like the BoB bridge
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>>146420264
Literally a shockwave
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>>146476423
play another game, i know its hard
>>
What sorceries should I use to deal with gank squads?
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>>146475429
christ the latency...

well yeh I'm not saying that some weapons don't outclass others, but mr theres only 5 good weapons in the game up there is wrong
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>>146476505
Nah, SLB is viable anywhere, just does really low damage. It's pretty much like das1/3 fireballs.
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>Dunk head in wax effect persists through bonfire use and travel
>persists through summoning as dark spirit

A new age of fashion has arrived.
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>>146475534
>see how retarded you sound
>makes a fucking moronic comparison

not only is he right but you made a bigger retard out of yourself when you posted this
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>>146475897
I made a build trying to make a viable faith character and ended up using red hilted halberd. I was absolutely destroying everyone at low levels (a little over 60), then as it was too easy I slowly leveled up and now about 90 and I basically can't win with it. The time to cast perseverance and then do one swing is longer than an ultra weapon needs to do a swing and roll away, I'm not even going to talk about fast weapon. Also, weapons with ultra armor don't even need to dodge, all they need to do is keep attacking with their hyperarmor, they vastly outdamage your punny 60% absorption
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>>146476701
I can;t tell you how many times as an invader I've encountered a blue with a wax head.
It's always a good chuckle because I assume they must've been in the process of making their way through the archives when they got the call.
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>>146476469
I've never liked ds1 pvp for those exact two reasons

>>146476565
I was sure someone was going to get mad. The problem with ds3 is precisely that it isn't hard enough. Even the most brain dead moron can spam dodge and unless you're equipping very specific weapons, there's almost nothing you can do about it. Let's see you defend that
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>>146477105
>I was sure someone was going to get mad
Wow, he told you to play something else, this guy must be boiling.
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>>146420264
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I don't know if you guys will even know, but is Lords of the Fallen good? I heard it's sort of similar to souls games and it's on sale now
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>>146477213
It's terrible
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>>146477213
It's total shit. It tries to be a Soulslike in the way someone who bought into the marketing hype would.
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>>146477258
>>146477318
all right, I'll save my shekels for something else then, thanks
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>>146477213

Never heard anyone liking it.
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>>146420264
I don't get it.
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>>146477479
How? It's really straightforward
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>mfw i enjoy BB more than DS3
>there is nothing to to in BB because i already got plat and made all the fun builds
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>>146477734
How the fuck does cage man bring you into the pit?
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Worth it? Only played DaS3 btw, but I've got over 300 hours in that shit and still love it.

For the older games (already own DaS1) I don't really care about the PvP, just the PvE which I intend on going through with my brother. I mean you can comment on both but even if the PvP is shit or dead as long as the PvE is good/challenging/fun/etc then I'm happy. I heard SotFS was the hardest PvE in the series.
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>>146477714
Explain it to me then.
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>>146477213
It's the very definition of mediocre. It's not really bad or good.
Animations are satisfying and extremely weighty, but there are more than a few annoying enemies.
The guys covered in thorns and the huge shield + sword dudes are real cunts, but you can cheese both of them by running into them with a shield up.
Has a few nice innovations like your shield on you back protecting you, has actually functional poise.

It's generally pretty challenging. Harder than any souls game, honestly.

It takes a beast of a machine to run, but if you can, the grafix are great. One of the most impressive games visually.

I kind of enjoyed it, but I was bored. Might as well pirate it.
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Why the hell is there a limit on how many characters you can have?
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>>146477845
If you explain jokes they stop being funny
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>>146477858
Because you touch yourself at night
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>>146477908
Nothing is funny there.
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>>146477824
Yes. It's a good time for all involved.
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>>146477824
It's okay. You might enjoy it. People here are still bitter about it not living up to the trailers, ignore the opinions of anyone that says it's shit.
I personally like the atmosphere that the intro sets up, the sheer build variety and viability.

It has some questionable mechanics but those come with a large variety of improvements to the series, many of which are missing from DaS3.
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>>146477824

What do you like in the PvE? The combat? If so, don't bother with DaS2 the combat is trash. DaS2 has good co-op and exploration though, if that's your thing then go ahead.
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>>146477746
>BB has minimal replayability and shitty online
>pray for DaS3 to save me
>DaS3 comes out
>minimal replayability and shitty online
God fucking dammit, Miyazaki. I wanted the 2nd sequel to dark souls, not Bloodborne 2.
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>>146477858

It's a console game. Have you seen a console game with unlimited save slots?
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>>146476580
Farron dart :^
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>>146477824
its the best game in the series with the best pvp so yea
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>>146477213
Waste of time and money.
Slow - some weapons felt nice at first because you could feel the impact but waiting several seconds for charged heavy attack gets old VERY fast.
Very limited magic / ranged options.
Ugly looking fantasy (read WOW) armors full of skulls and spikes (go for it if that's your thing, just an opinion)
Buggy piece of shit.
No multiplayer elements whatsoever.
You're better of getting something like Salt and Sanctuary.
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>>146476580
you don't use sorceries to deal with gank squads
gank squads use sorceries to deal with you
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>>146477824
DS2 is a weird souls game by all means. Combat, world, kind of everything.

It's still pretty fun to play with, especially the DLCs, which are top notch good shit(outside of the challenge areas). It's definitely the game with the most replayability(actual NG+ changes and powerstancing), so if you end up liking it, you'll sink a lot of hours into it
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>>146477849
>Harder than any souls game, honestly.
Only if you count game breaking bugs the game was full of at release that forced a complete restart.
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>>146465671
>Chloranthy Ring +2

Jesus Christ, you're going to take that fat pope to NG +2 for just one ring?
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>>146478301
CE
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Are +5 weapons that only go up to +5 different when it comes to PvP matchmaking?

eg if I have a +5 boss weapon at level 50 will I still be in that bracket or no?
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>>146478292
Never encountered any such bugs, I don't know what you're talking about.
Might have been patched since I only tried the game after it got cracked.

I never struggled as much in the souls series as with bosses like Worshipper or the demon realm in general.
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>>146478451
+5 weapons go up by 2 in matchmaking
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>>146478451
Every upgrade of boss/special weapons is +2 when it comes to matchmaking.

Example: Yhorm's Great Machete at +2 will put you at the +4 mark for matchmaking
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>>146478451
Twinkling/Scale weapons = +2 for every upgrade

Dagger +2 = +1 bracket
Vordt's Great Mace +2 = +4 bracket
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>>146478451
Thanks dudes
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>>146478043
is there a souls game with high replay value ?
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>>146478753
i'd wager so..
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>>146478753
Yes.
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>>146478753
DS2 is a contender

Actually changes stuff in NG+(and even further) outside of adding +1/+2 rings, and with more or less infinite respecs available alongside powerstancing, there's always something new to be done
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>>146478753
One and two both had very high replay value.
Despite its many criticisms, replayability was one thing two did very well.
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>>146478753
One of the biggest things you can argue in favor of Demon's Souls world level system is that it is majorly beneficial to replayability that you can choose to go into any area other than 1-4 any time you want.
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>trying to get all gestures in one NG
>having to ditch Sirris' questline to be able to summon Heysel
>realize I need Sirris' talisman for my hexfag character
Fuck this no-fun-allowed wench I should have killed her for it
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>when you invade a 3v1 in Ds1 and 3 guide readers with drake swords and bk halberds try to r1 gangbang in a game with poise
I think I'm feeling it again, the ever elusive fun
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is SL 60 +7 weapon a good set up for invades?
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>>146478260
This. 3 mages with obscuring ring + host are unstoppable. It's not even fair.
>>146478753
I never understand meme about replay value. Who cares about NG+ if you can use bonfire ascetics in DS2?
>>146478806
Never played DeS?
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Im replaying ds1 and im actually trying to get some online play for the first time. Ive been leaving my white signs on the ground and staying human all the time. Im up to gwynevere and ive never been summoned. I got invaded once in sen's and the guy just waved and jumped to his death.
Right now ive got my sign down in front of ornstein and fat and its been a while, but nothings happening.
Am i supposed to go darkwraith/darkmoon?
Steam says there's 4k people on so SOMEONE has to have seen my signs at least once.
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>>146479232
>Never played DeS?
i have, why?
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>>146461357
The story of the universe isn't delivered directly through cutscene's so you should be fine. Although, playing DS1 will let you appreciate everything in 3 better.
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>>146478753
There's like 1278521304980123401234 different possible routes in ds1 foo
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Flame hammer or demon GAxe for devilish popeslayer weapon?

Suggestions welcome
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>>146479326
both are actually good.
I'd say axe since great axes and pretty great in this game.
nigga just have both and swap when you fancy
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>>146479267
Because DS series have zero replay value compared to DeS?
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first time playing ds1
literally what the fuck is ornstein's charge attack
he glides across the room like he is on ice skates and when i dodge, he abruptly changes direction and manages to hit me
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>>146479452
i disagree but whatever.
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decide to go for bleed/poison build with a bunch of luck and dex, what are the softcaps for luck?
does having a hollow infused shield have major drawbacks?
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Anyone here played King's Field 2? Where on earth do I go after Seath's Fountain?
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>>146479452
DeS has good levels, but pretty boring bosses in general.
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What non souls games would /dsg/ suggest grabbing during the sale?
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>>146479462

It's to give a little taste of DaS3 in advance.
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>>146478753
i just wish BB had some replay value besides the endings, fuck, i really want to love it
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>>146479462
You have to actually time you dodges in ds1 since you can spam the shit out of them

you're rolling too early and/or in the wrong direction if a boss attack is consistently fucking you up
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>>146479462
Yea, it's pretty shitty

Get a good stability shield, it helped me when I had the same problem. It'll block his attack fully. Hell, it'll block just about everything fully outside of the lightning bolts. I ended up just kiting them around the room with a shield the entire time, sneaking a hit or two occasionally until one went down. It's somewhat tedious but by far the safest method

Or just summon Solaire if you want the cop-out
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>>146479771
~can't

also shields are indespensible in ds1 since you can tank big hits instead of just getting broken by everything
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Is Cleric the best faith starter?
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>>146479726
Bloodborne should've embraced its nature as an action game more and let you permanently unlock weapons. It would be a lot more replayable if you could just start up a new character and immediately have something like the Burial Blade, or the Beast Cutter or the Bloodletter.
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>>146479702
Dragon's Dogma
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>>146479781
You know, I think I'll try this.
I've been going without a shield so far (bloodborne habits)..
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>>146479462
That attack was poorly coded, whenever he starts it, if he ever has anything in his way, be it pillars, rubble or Smough, he'll keep gliding indefinetly until charging again. The attack only truly ends when he thrusts, which is also the only damaging part, so you have to learn to dodge on reaction.
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>>146479912
They're all the same, those rotten clerics
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>>146479702
dragons dogma is pretty good, i'd wager if you like souls you have a high chance of liking it
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>>146479912
Yes
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>>146479726
This.
It was a solid system, but there just wasn't enough to do with it. You could only make so many builds and kill the same mediocre sandbag bosses so many times before it just stopped being fun. There was only so many hours I could spend spelunking random FRCs looking a rune that doesn't exist or a gem that will never drop (fuck you, attack down curse) before that was just it.

The non-linearity and diversity of souls games kept them interesting for ages but BB had none of that and it made it really hard to enjoy it for more than a hundred hours. DaS3 is already showing the same problem.
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>>146479959
agreed, the only thing you should unlock are the chalices, or at least have a respec option
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>>146479702
Other people have said it already so I'll just emphasize it, Dragon's Dogma is easily worth the sale price.
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>>146480041
>>146479726
Actually BB and DS3 are best games for world tendency. So much wasted potencial
>BB
>NG+ with weird things based on your insight
>DS3
>Dragons Dogma post game but not shit. NG+ is DARK WORLD like real Firelink Shrine or Apocalypse World like on DS3 screenshots leaks. More crazy enemies. Red eyes madmans like in agressive mode. "Enraged bosses". Etc
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There's something endearing about fashion when it's hobbled together from a bunch of early game gear

I'll probably switch to Fallen Knight anyways since I just picked it up
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Why is Court Sorceror's Staff better than Archdeacon, again? The latter has higher buff
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>>146480403
>spent levels in arcane to try a tool
>its shit, build ruined

>>146480415
holy shit yes, its sad how insight was a wasted oportunity for more content
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>>146479978
>>146479995
>>146480405
Should've said it's a low end PC, can I run it if I do 30 fps DaS3?
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>>146480415
>>DS3
>>Dragons Dogma post game but not shit. NG+ is DARK WORLD like real Firelink Shrine or Apocalypse World like on DS3 screenshots leaks. More crazy enemies. Red eyes madmans like in agressive mode. "Enraged bosses". Etc
You lost me.
I don't recall any of this being true and I'm on NG++
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>draining all the humanity a person has with +3 hand when they're trying to fraud O&S with help

YOU WILL GIT GUD NO SUMMONING ALLOWED
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>>146480415
Honestly, insight feels rushed. A few early enemies have cool changes with it. Could really have become better instead of turning into a secondary resource to echoes.
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>>146480429
>Fallen Knight
pleb tier fashion
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>>146480646
DD is from last gen, I think you'll be able to handle it.
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>Recording PvP to test out Nvidia shadowplay
>open hand parry on a longsword user's first swing
>Want to upload it to YouTube to show friends
>Realize I had music playing while recording
>Weebiest music possible
>Can't show friends because they can't stand that shit
I could just mute the audio but I don't want to do that
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>invaders don't drop humanity
>invaders barely drop any souls
>you only get a small estus refill for killing an invader

Why are the host's rewards so shitty for killing an invader?
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>>146480803
To further cement the fact that they're minor and insignificant speed bumps
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What's the most fashionable knight armor in Ds3? Trying to make a good looking set since poise don't matter.
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>>146480868
knight mixed with sunset
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>>146480761
>don't appreciate weeb culture
>friends
it doesnt add up
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>>146480868

The K***ht armour.
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>>146480761
You have pretty shit friends and low self-esteem then. Get rid of them. Trust me they don't worth it
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>>146480657
He's saying that would have been nice to have, because there's a lot of potential in it.
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I think i have discovered the most evil combination. This is absolutely disgusting, This makes me maniacally laugh like a saturday morning cartoon villain.
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>>146479462
it's broken. he stops into a walk if he finds an obstruction and then immediately charges again, no warning. when he stops the charge, he does a low stab. look for that. if he doesn't do it, he will charge again and fuck your shit. if you wanna go bb style, get darkwood grain ring
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Is the Dragonslayer's axe any good on a faith build?
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>>146480868
the faraam chest + nameless soldier pants
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Besides Tit Slabs, what other items should I pick up before NG+?
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>>146481134
Raw or Lightning infused
Buff with sunlight blade
???
profit
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>>146480868
knight is sex
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>>146481176
covenant rewards
kill all the npcs for their swag
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>>146480657
He's saying they should have done an extra "post-ending" content when you beat the game instead of just conventional NG+. Like you could go back through the areas and things will have changed, including different variations on bosses.

The thing is, From has been trying to make a Dark World system in every game since Demon's Souls and they've always failed to deliver.

>DeS
Black World Tendency

>DaS
Destroying the illusion of the sun.

>DaS2
The scrapped bright present/dark future time travel

>BB
Insight

>DaS3
The Flameless world

They never have the development time to implement the changes in a way that really capture the scope they set out for.
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>>146480761
what music, anon?
also post your 1hp songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYtVf0wvPpc
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>>146481104
Forgot picrelated
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>>146459359
It's a genuinely cool NPC that plays with your expectations, it sucks that there's nothing like it in DS3
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>>146480747
dks3 just has some of the worst fashion
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>>146481351
Yes anon, you're the first one to try that.
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>>146481176
Max out on consumables, arrows, etc
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>>146481417
I am not, but it feels absolutely fucking evil to use this shit.
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>>146481319
My theme in general to be honest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51PjXPBPWco
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>>146481176
Everything you might want from the crow, maybe a rerun of areas to get all lizards since gems are rare.
Buy a big stock of the jew maid's items.
Kill some NPCs for dupes.
Farm late game enemies if you want their drops.
Mimic head.
All quests.
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>>146481319
It was some generic Hatsune Michael animeme music I found on soundcloud
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Anyone want to drop me their totally useless Sunless Talisman? PC, name a place and password.
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Anyone want to join me on a journey?

A quest
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>>146480761

>being ashamed of things you like

baka senpai desu
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>>146480761
just dub over some normie music for them
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>>146481319
>1hp song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGE0qFav5YQ
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>>146481715

I prefer two handing an UGS and stunlocking them.
>>
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>>146481695
go on...
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>>146481857
Estoc and the hammer were the only two melee weapons I had upgraded.
>>
DS3 is by far the worst one out of them all.

All the bosses are knights, there are no variations. Makes the game a chore to finish. I finally forced myseld to finish and the last boss was a joke. His first form was predictable as fuck and his second form, I shit you not they stole the exact moveset from the last boss in DS1. Move for move. Could they get any lazier?

I don't like how they tried to make it like bloodborne.

The music in this game was pretty cool though. Especially the Lothric Prince music
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>>146481319
phase 2 gasoline father will allways be my 1 hp song
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>>146482008
This is bait so no one reply.
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>>146481351
Watch some japs invaisons. There a lot hosts, phantoms with estoc off hand after patch
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>>146481176
99x every upgrade material and +9 all weapons
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>>146481981
An Alva Quest
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>>146482008
>I shit you not they stole the exact moveset from the last boss in DS1.
That was the entire point.

Honestly:
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > DaS2
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Maybe you guys could give an opinion, for the last to days I've been trying to duel outside of pontiff like normal, and every time I pick up a red sign or get invaded they automatically return home, pretty clueless on the issue here, anyone else having the same problem?
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>>146482008
wait is the soul of cinder moveset similar to gywns ? thats kind of neat

and lazy
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>>146482108
>le we are all the same meme
been done a thousand times, completely lost interest
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beating TNK on my SL20/+2 has made me realize how stupid the astora and bloodring is, at least from a PvE standpoint
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>>146482163
The second form is Gywn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9dNrmGD7mU

Also listen to the part at 2:28. It plays when he transforms to the second form
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>>146482248
>needing to roll
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>>146482197
It's not a requirement, it's just a 4 man dried finger madness run across the game

>no fun allowed
>>
>>146482197
He didn't ask for it though you no fun madman
>>
Does anyone else really hate the souls series while playing it but after finishing it you realise that it was a great game all along?
>>
>>146482296
the way das3 is meant to be played, judging by how rolls don't cost anything :^)
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>>146482108
Has there ever been a where's Waldo invasion event? Where eveeyone wears untrue darkring and scatters as soon as an invader shows up?
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>>146482495
you can see the name of the host
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>>146482595
then the host searches

invaders cant defend themselves, only run and parry
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>>146482692
who's waldo then?
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>>146482595
So everyone just needs to use the same name.
>>
Is there any chance of a better Dark Souls 3 deal coming along during the summer sale, or should I just buy it now?
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>>146482459
Only DeS
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>>146482767
0 chance friend
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>>146482595
see
>>146482108
More than one person can be the host if they wear a certain ring.
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>>146482459
casuals
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>>146477105
What the hell are you even on about
>Play another game
>Defend this.

>>146476423
Also
>Few
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>>146482740
that work but would require fresh characters or ce
>>146482795
not the point you doofus. when you invade, you see whose world you invaded. when you lock on, you see the player's name. capiche?
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>>146482108
There's even a ghost Alva there.
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>need a pale tongue to respec
>invade some guy
>kick his ass
>feel bad and start going easy
>lose on purpose because I'm too nice to be an invader

What the fuck is wrong with me
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>>146482921
it's called being a beta. stop thinking about others and start thinking about yourself
just do it
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>>146483041
>thinking about others
>beta
yeah, sure.
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>>146483184
oke you're not a beta just a leftist cuck
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>>146483184
>invade
>thinks he isn't already caring only about himself
>>
Trying to come up with a way to cheese Heysel for quick playthroughs, any ideas? Alluring Skull works to some degree, but she just spams magic instead of approaching it. Black Firebombs deal about 90HP of damage. Leading her to the deeper part of the swamp right next to the second invasion spot is unsafe as it's filled with basilisks. Poison resin does jackshit.

>>146482921
Just get the tongue on the hanging body near the fire demon with Siegward, you pansy.
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>>146483496
Why do you need to cheese heysel?
Just fucking killing her takes thirty seconds max.
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New thread:

>>146483701
>>146483701
>>146483701
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>>146483727
76 posts early there champ.
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>>146483727
what the fuck are you doing?
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>>146483727
>>146483812
O A R T I S M
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>>146483596
I want a reliable and quick method to get her gesture. Can't postpone it too much as nothing personnel squad has to be alive for her summon sign. She's quite tanky for that point and keeps running away to spam magic.
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>>146482248
what do you mean? why?
what was your setup for him?
>>
>sl 120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRyBBwf8wkY
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>>146484150
The amount of effort 80 niggers go into shitposting about 120 because they're bad is amazing
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Don't invade me, I have no poise.
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>>146484213
*eats grass*
*switches to sss to use oath*
*cast deep protection*
*switch to onikiri and ubadachi*
*cast dark moon blade on both*
*eat grass again because effect is fading*
*teleports behind you*
*combos you into death*

pshh
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>>146484150
>Duel Charms
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>>146484150
Self buffs are shit in this game, that applies much better to dks2, you know, the game that at one point actually HAD A SELF BUFF META?
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>>146484150
>he doesn't know how body buff works in DS3
>he never play 120SL
Do u like memes? 27vig, "magic/pyro is bad memes"? Or epic Anri 80SL build memes?
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>>146478301

Not that guy but I didn't have a problem getting all of the +2/+3 rings from some helpful anon here, and I haven't even started NG+ yet.
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>summon an obviously melee guy for Dancer, he's got a claymore and a greatshield
>I'm an obviously pyro build
>start bossfight
>he's the passivest fucker ever, barely even touches her, never takes aggro
Why do people like this exist
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>>146484032
Oh, I just realized I could summon Parry God Hodrick.
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>>146484413
>eats grass
>uses oath which is shit in pvp
>already being attacked for using two buffs
>uses DMB on fotm swordswhich is somewhat possible at 80
>behaviour is relevant to SL level

meanwhile at SL80

>*eats grass*
>*uses warcry*
>*switches to grass crest shield*
>*uses warcry again which is also the last time I can do it without attunement*
>*teleports behind you*
>*combos you to death while you do 5 damage with your sorcery*
psh

>round 2
>pull out hollow warden twinblades
>carthus rouge
>
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>>146484946
meanwhile at sl142...
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>>146483496
you can make her fall in the hole with the ladder
if you're down in the swamp, you can probably make her climb up after you and then push her off
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>>146484150
you sl 80 fucktars are really desperate for attention
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>>146485127
Good idea. I'll have to distract the two crabs a bit, but it's definitely faster than getting Hodrick to her. I wonder if she's as suicide happy as the other two.
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How to balance this broken game:

>-100 AR across the board for all curved swords, katanas and straight swords when fully upgrade refined/hollow 40/40/40

>Poise reworked
To stagger 40+ poise:
>4 dagger r1s
>3 SS/kats/Cs r1s
>2 reaper r1s
>2 mace/axe/GS r1s
>1 Ultra R1

>Wolf rings and poise boosts are % based so Timmy-no armor can't stack poise while wearing rags

>Reapers slightly buffed in damage output, and no longer require "sweet-spot" hits

>Vit gives 2 points in all defense per level (10-20), 2.5 points (20-30), 3 points (30-40), 1 point 40+

>bows are infuseable

>faith FP cost reduced across board

>dark magic/miracle buffed in damage

>increased recovery time on parries

>greathammers buffed in damage

>the retarded 2H roll R1 of GA/GH are changed into a sweep
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WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>146484150
but that's sl200
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>>146484150
But noone ever uses anything more than tears and replenishment, which is admittedly pretty useful, but not really stacked or anything. If you wanted to make fun of SL 120, just take an SL80 build and add 20 luck plus hollow infusion (assuming that wasn't there already at the cost of something else).
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>>146485498
>Poise
Stopped reading there.
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>>146485498
>no changes to rolls at all

Stupid.
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>>146485650
t. flavor of the month cookiecutter build user
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>>146485716
If that was the case, I'd love the spacing disregarding mechanic.
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>>146484719
>summons for Dancer
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>>146485872
Not even a guy with a bleed weapon either.
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>>146485498
>muh big weapons!
Your changes would completely break PvE, and that's what's really important.
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>>146485872
That's what you do when you're shit at the game, like I am.
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>>146486126
just get a dark hand and hug her big butt
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>>146486047
That's why everyone just mashes R1s with their longsword through it.

This game failed at PvE as well a PvP you nigger
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>>146486270
Mashing r1 with big weapons is even more effective.
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>>146486047
How so? Big weapons are pathetic in PvE save for rare exceptions like the UGS poke on Watchers. It doesn't even do enough guard damage per second compared to faster weapons. Slow startup and recovery make it so you'll never get more than one swing in before having to roll. So really, what the fuck are you talking about?
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Does any spellcaster stand a remote chance against the mighty Spell Deflection WA?
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>>146485810
There are already two, shockwaves and hyper armor.
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>>146486376
You mean the two main factors that make spacing important?
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>>146485498
> broken game
It's pretty okay actually.

>-100 AR across the board for
Put a space between the arrow and the minus sign next time, I thought you were suggesting having a flat total of 100 AR across the board for those weapons. That would have been insane overkill. Minus 100 might be a bit much, and the bigger problem with most straightswords is just phantom range.

>Poise
Hard poisebreaks are cancer. Poise should decrease hitstun time, not just activate/deactivate stun, making it more gradient than in 1, without using the retarded system 2 had. Of course, there'll still technically breaks since the weapons attacking speed will determine how much hitstun needs to be negated to leave a combo, but that's a lot less blatant than 1 and doesn't allow you to poisetank initial hits for backstabs.

>Wolf rings and poise boosts are % based
So that people with high poise get even higher poise to tank with? You'd be better off just removing the ring.

>Reapers
I dunno, I'd rather the sweet spots were just larger. Personal preference.

>Vit gives more defense
I don't think you'd need that on combination with lightweight weapons getting a flat damage nerf. On top of that, if you made poise valuable, people would be more willing to invest in armor, once again suggesting that this is unessecary.

Personally I think everyone should just have a fixed HP amount. There's no reason to have both HP and armor, you're just going to figure out which one gives you more effect since they're virtually identical. Things like strength and dex are comperable, but give you acess to different movesets; HP and absorption work like two different versions of the same thing, and flat defense is pretty close too, the only difference being that it hurts smaller weapons more than larger ones compared to absorption.

>faith FP cost reduced across board
other than tears

>GH damage
the moveset still sucks

I liked/didn't hate everything else
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>>146486478
Can't outspace big weapons because shockwaves. Can't punish big weapons because hyperarmor will fuck you up if you try. Truly the best pvp.
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>>146486357
No it literally isn't. For 3 swings with 600 AR ugs you can do 8 with a 400 AR longsword
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>>146486594
Or you can just get a carthus curved sword or estoc and hit them 3 times before they hit you once, for the maximum das3 pvp experience.
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>>146486594
>Can't outspace big weapons because shockwaves.
So you have to account for spacing instead of constantly abusing that big juicy opening on the terrible recoveries of anything heavier than a Halberd? Damn you, Memezaki.
>Can't punish big weapons
Really now. Big weapons are shit even with hyper armor and this is your complaint. Holy fuck.
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>>146486603
forgot to add that those 3 ugs swings leave you at negative stamina while you can still roll after 8 ss swings and anytime in between
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>>146486932
>account for spacing
lmao
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>>146486594
>Can't outspace big weapons because shockwaves. Can't punish big weapons because hyperarmor will fuck you up if you try. Truly the best pvp.

Big weapons are the most easily countered weapons in the game.

Firstly, compare the amount of stamina spent while dodging to the amount of stamina spent throwing out an ultra attack.

Secondly, Recall that large weapons will always be parried on sight by good players if they're onehanded, and therefore the ultra-user has to switch between a parry-only mode and an attack only mode, meaning a straightsword user can swing as much as they if their opponent is twohanding, and move in as much as they like if they're onehanding.

Thirdly, try fighting them with something like the thrall axe, then upon realizing L2 R1 is a hardcounter, consider how easy it is to equip said axe.

Fourthly, try tossing a throwing knife at anyone who throws swings while you're out of range, then consider how easy it is to equip said knives and/or offhand crossbows.

They're not hard to play against at all, they just shred idiots.
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>>146487210
>DMB Blessed Caestus Anri shitter complaining about something with a huge startup you can roll through and deals no damage
Incredible. This is what I filled captchas for.
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>>146485872
>faith build post-patch
>dat str ring would be nice, no six sense samurai tho
>buy gnaw
>might as well test it on the dancer
>2/3 blue estus and she's dead
well now
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>>146478753
All of them?
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at what point strength is too much strength?
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>>146488173
27/40
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>>146488173
67
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>>146488173
Depends

Softcap is 40

Sometimes the 40th point is only as good as the 41st if your scaling is bad

Non-paired weapons multiply your strength stat by 1.5 while twohanded, meaning you hit 39 when twohanding at 26 strength and 40.5 (rounds down to 40) while twohanding at 27, and 41 at 28.

And sometimes you don't need strength in the first place.
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>>146485498
What is it about these games and armchair game designers?
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>>146483701
>>146483701
>>146483701
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>>146483331
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>>146484413
*eats grass*
*maybe one consumable buff depending on weapon*
*lets opponent buff*
*takes maybe 10 seconds total unless they're going all in which is maybe 1/10 fights*
*fight*

nigger plz
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>>146486270
lol Greatswords with an r2 poke are great in pve assuming you have the stamina for atleast 3 swings which should be anyone above sl50

the only thing it would really hurt is dipshits who need to git gud and put down the ss crutch for pve. Even if it was applied to curved swords the only thing that would change is that no one would use a cs that didn't also proc bleed
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Recovery times make UGS backstab punishable on anything that isnt a single r1. Its also makes GS punishable because you can just outspeed them for easy 2 hit combos if you aren't a fucking moron just running into HA trades

Also any weapon art outside of stomp and spin, or the curved greatsword combo spins is literally begging to get backstabbed.

You should learn to play well with great weapons as well as fast weapons. You can work against them better by learning the weaknesses through mistakes
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>>146486603
>>146486957
no one who isn't low on chromosomes would exhaust their stamina spamming r1s with a great weapon more than once in a fight to try and surprise someone who is banking on the punish

I say this with no bearing to anyone who is reading as far as your personal skill level goes, and I am only addressing the general population of the das3 community.

People are fucking bad on the majority and are incredibly easy to catch in a hyper armor trade. I love using the the Carthus CGS because alot of people know that its running r1(which is almost every weapon I know) rolling r1, and regular r1 can be easily parried. as soon as they pull out the parry tool, and I shit you not this works 90% of the time, I sprint in and they will literally stop and brace for the parry only to get caught in a l2r2 combo for 750+ depending on armor

If you can't use a weapon properly and play around its weaknesses then don't use it, but don't say it can't be punished. That 10% of the time my parry punish fails? I'm probably fighting a good player and they will punish me on the long ass recovery time when I dont combo the WA
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>>146487210
>fagggot is terrible at spacing
>complains about shockwaves

whould've thunk?
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