/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

First for Steak best weapon.

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>>146400320
DELETE THIS

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What is this shit /vg/?

WATHC MY WEBMS

Is a level 4 run fun at all or is it just fire saw spear spam?

>>146400320
DELETE THIS YOU FAGGOT

You can't delete your threads on /vg/, newfriends.

Just report it.

>>146401021
looks like some porn game

It even has "bastard" in its name

>>146400785
>>146402714
>>146402858
Maybe stop bumping it then you stupid cunts.

>>146401021
This is the gayest thing I've ever seen in months

also sage

>everyone bitches about new thread
>immediately lets bbg fall off 10th page

quality general guys

come back to /dsg/ where you belong

>>146404742
suck my dick

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>>146405319
If you want to sleep with us you need to come home with us first.

>>146405559
pay me

>>146405634
Do you accept SOULS?

>>146404742
>Going to that absolute fuck cesspit
>Ever
I'd rather just die

>>146407557
do it faggot

you'll just respawn at the bonfire anyways

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what the literal shit are you retards doing?

If the cainhursts are drinking Yharnam's blood, why do none of them turn into spooky tall pale dudes?

SUmmon for ludwig anyone?

pass:bgg

>>146411001
>>146326373

>>146411058
thank

Which gems do I gem the parasite with?

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>invade
>host sitting down at lamp
>steak to face
>mrw

>>146413147
flat arc gems

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It's a "Lucy spams the same webms in every thread even though nobody cares" episode!

>>146414134
Not one cold abyssal?

The scaling seems wonky since the AR is so low in the first place compared to other weapons

Where's the first lamp after a the very first lamp outside of the dream? Do I have to kill that executioner or cross the bridge with the beasts on it? If I go into the sewers I'll fall and die or get cornered most of the time

>>146414337
As long as it's Arcane gems anything is fine

>>146414337
It's up to you actually, the untricked version has shit scaling so it's better with flat gems, the transformed version is better with %

>>146414392
You're on the right track. Stop asking now lest people respond with spoilers (which they will).

Luci your webms suck

>>146414574
They all suck except for >>146414464, I love the part where he gets smashed.

>>146414574
His webms don't suck; HE sucks, the webms are just collateral damage.

>>146414673
and then abruptly ends the video to save face

>People keep challenging the HMLS L2
>It keeps happening

When will they learn, /bbg/?

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I made a vidyo, hope you guys get a few kicks out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_R8nQbCTFw

>Kill a guy
>About five minutes later, he sends me a message
>"When you find someones address real quick. Rip."
>Reply, ";^)"
>"About to be rip af"

...Is he threatening me? This man is a meme and I don't understand. Do I keep replying? I kind of want to see more, but I'm honestly at a loss for words.

>>146415890
You've gotta continue at that point.

>>146415890
send him a pic of your dick

>>146416083
This is the only acceptable course of action.

>invade at yahargul lamp
>host+carry
>riposte host immediately because they both just spam r1
>host fucking disconnects

what the shit where do these casuals come from?

>>146417304
Reddit, probably.

>>146417304
A lot of these scrubs are coming from DS3.

My favorite is when you kill their cooperators and they run back to the lamp thinking they'll summon them back right away.

>>146416083
Seconding

>>146417579
I've been doing invasions here for a couple hours now and I never even need to kill the summons the hosts are all so bad.

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>>146417702
True, but I like to watch the host squirm.

>invade host and 2 password summons
>mfw the host walks into a tricked Boom Hammer R2 and dies

They really are something else.

>>146417702
See though, that's the thing. You don't need to kill the summons, but you do it anyway to watch the host slowly or quickly start to panic as each and every one of their phantoms gets picked off before you move in on them. It's honestly kind of beautiful.

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>>146418136
>Invade some dude in research hall
>His summon is an absolute joke, kill him in seconds
>Host takes off like a bat out of hell the moment his buddy goes down
>Makes his way all the way to the base of the hall with me right on his tail
>Spend the next ten minutes just running in circles around the poison pool, probably hoping for another summon to come in so he can gang up on me
>Summon never comes
>Slowly whittle his health down with running attacks
>Eventually get a bit bored and decide to stop chasing him, just hide behind the staircase
>Dumbass doesn't even realize I stopped chasing him
>Jump out as he gets close and take him out in a few swings
If you're that much of a fucking pussy don't play online.

>>146418846
>If you're that much of a fucking pussy don't play online.

Seriously. Even Lucifer understands that.

>>146418846
I never get action at the research hall :/

>>146418846
That's one thing I always liked about Bloodborne, you can only invade people who ask for it.

Call me a bitch but sometimes I feel like a jerk for killing players as they try to go through the level in Souls games.

Bloodbornes bell system however makes it so only dumb assholes get invaded. I love it.

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>>146419463
Interestingly, the same happens in DS3, but the PvP is so fucked that they can just all mash r1 and you don't stand a chance.

I just invaded in UCW
>spawn in
>small bell found
>can't find either of them
>eventually find them entering orphanage
>take out summon pretty quickly
>host flips the fuck out
>I chase him in circles all around the pitch-black orphanage
>all the way back to lamp
>tries to use axe spin2win
>spin0win

feels good man

>>146419803
>Kos Parasite invasions in UCW
It's too fucking perfect, especially when you stand in front of a shortcut door and the other guy is standing on the other side, only to get killed by an L2 when he goes to open it.
>Dude, let me in, I'm a fairy

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>>146420142
Don't you believe in fairies?

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>>146419803
You're right about DS3. There is also the issue where hosts can just resummon constantly. It's really dumb that you can kill 2 phantoms, and right as the third one dies the host has already replaced the first two.

>invade Cathedral Ward
>stuck behind the door to Vicar Amelia
>message the host to let me out
>door opens and 3 dudes start to gank me
>mfw they all die in 2 hits from a pizza cutter

I guess none of them put any points into health. I didn't even have that good of gems on the thing.

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>>146420549
Everyone I fight (even in the Frontier/Mensis) seems to have <1000 HP, even above level 120.

Did they miss the memo?

>Hot off the presses!
>as I was typing this
>invade same UCW dude as last time
>same summon too
>as I spawn in they're at the werewolf gangbang door
>watch the wolves shred both of them
>wave

>>146420798
That's another reason why I think they're coming from DS3. I bet they dump all their stats into STR and SKL.

What's a good invading level for Forest/Burgertown/Yahar'Nam/UCW?

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>mfw steam sale
>tfw watching Darkest Dungeon like a hawk because chalice dungeons gave you a taste for rng dungeon crawlers

boy I hope it's good

>>146421401
43

>>146421401
I'm level 40 and I get consistent invasions in the Forest.

Kos is a really, really good boss. I didn't consider Ludwig that great but Kos is incredible, on par with or better than my favorite Souls bosses.

Laurence is lazy garbage that demonstrates From is completely out of touch with fun.

>>146421680
Kos is dead you dunce.

>>146421680
I like Laurence more than the Orphan.

>>146421732
*Kosm

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>I'll make my own place of learning
>with blood vials and Great Ones
>in fact, forget the blood vials

And that's how the Choir was made.

>>146421680
Laurence is easily the worst non-chalice boss. But at least the music is awesome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k3XXGmu-dw

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>invade into Make Contact room
>have to wait for fags to open the door
>two saw cleavers
>both mash r1 relentlessly
>they literally don't even turn to face me
>just keep mashing r1
>mfw

>>146422269
>Laurence is easily the worst non-chalice boss
Not even remotely close.
He's better than Amelia, Celestial Emissary, One Reborn, Lady Maria, Cleric Beast, Witch of Hemwick, Shadow of Yharnam,

>>146422269
Laurence on NG++ with 3 people is fun.

>>146422032
You mean Mensis? Choir was the upper echelon/research division of the Church, they definetly had blood vials.

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>>146422269
>that all male chorus
Is there a name for music like that? I'd love to hear more.

>>146422620
Gregorian chants.

>>146422554
the Choir focused on eyes on the inside and the cosmos, Mensis was all about that blood and the Moon, hence the name.

>>146422554
They never made use of blood, the Choir followed Willem's teachings.

>>146422968
>>146422905
>>146422554

It was a Futurama reference you hyper-autismos.

>>146422698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBwh1OXw6uI

this is nice

>>146423085
I was referencing this *whips out dick*

>>146422516
> Laurence, a Cleric Beast reskin with a billion health and an annoying 2nd phase.
> Somehow better than Maria, Amelia or Shadows

It's a travesty that such an important character in the story is given such a lame boss fight, sure he was the first Cleric Beast, but that doesn't mean he has to look identical to the generic one we fought. Amelia/Ludwig/Gasgoine turned into beasts that bore some resemblance to thier human selves, why couldn't Laurence keep the basic structure of hulking beast with one big arm and antlers, but make him unique, change the proportions a bit, alter how he stands and moves, give him tattered clothes of whatever he wore etc...

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>>146423179
>Is that it?

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If i go forward is that little hunchback fag all the way in the back gonna transform to some boss out of no where?

>>146423691
nah dude she's your friend

>>146423691
If you equip hand lantern she'll give you the succ

>>146423691
throw a rock at her

>>146423691
>playing an RPG
>not talking to every NPC

just kill yourself now

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>>146423824
>>146423914
>>146423938
>>146423981
Fuck you fags.

I knew this bitch was gonna pull some shit.


On another not why do all these bosses look the same?

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POST HUNTRESSES

>>146424335
She doesn't look like Witch of Hemwick at all.

>>146424381
she looks a bit flat

>>146421401
BL0

>random Hintertomb depth 2 Root
>Droplet Heavy Blood Gemstone (3)

Interesting.

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>>146424430
Because she wasn't?

That was clearly Darkbeast Paarl

>>146424335
The fact that many enemies DO look like one another is actually a pretty interesting in and of itself because it was clearly done on purpose and not out of laziness. Notice some of the beast type enemies have anatomical features that directly mimic that of certain great ones (compare cleric beast to amygdala or BSB to moon presence).

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>Byrgenwerth raided the Fishing Hamlet
>The Healing Church burnt Old Yharnam aka the Valley Hamlet

what does from have against hamlets?

Anyone want to take on Laurence? I just can't get him alone
Level 76 ringing at hunter's nightmare lamp
pass is hot
Thanks

>>146426943
I'm coming if you still want help.

>>146422516
This is the dumbest post I've read all day and I went over to /s4s/ for awhile.

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>>146421430
>tfw because of the fact that there no real looting aspect to dungeons (unless you decided not to get all your tier-3's and gems through glyphs) the main reason people spelunk is to discover weird shit
I love it, a dungeon crawling game where the reward is the dungeon itself, not the numbers you get from it.

>>146427092
sounds good

>>146423085
Spergs man,

>>146424680
'Cause it's a faggoty-ass twink, that's why.

>>146424335
You're like clearly a stupid person, it's clearly a boss arena and how about you play the game some fucking more before saying dumb shit

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>>146426676
Miyazaki had to murder his own people when he was a kid to survive, and he lived on a hamlet.

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>>146424381
That's clearly a man but fine I'll post a real huntress.

>>146427231
You're ringing your bell right?

>>146427092
fuck, want to try again?

>>146421213
To be fair, I do the exact same thing on BB. I only start leveling health after my damage is maxed, but I also don't coop or pvp until my build is completed just for funsies, so take that with a grain of salt.

>>146426943
I'll ring as well if ya need another

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>>146427631
That's clearly a beast but fine I'll post a real man.

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Is this really Mergo?

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>>146424381
k den

>>146427925
No.

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How does this look for a low level invasion ayy?

I plan to mainly use un-milked kos parasite for a fist build essentially.

Assuming I get some arcane gems my ar will be around 180. I only plan to use the tonitrus to carry me up to Orphan.

>>146427925
No that's Kosm.

He like lasagna and HATES Mondays.

>>146427663
>>146427790
I'm ringing again if you want to try again

>>146428094
Damage stats have a softcap at 25 so for a twink build you're probably better off putting those 5 points into vit

>>146427943
A man with a wig

>>146428726
show us your pretty waifus then if you're so gud

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>>146400320
What would you say this helmet is worth. Would you say, 10 million?

>>146428917
10 million wheels up your arse, perhaps.

>>146429043
meant for
>>146428919
obviously

>>146428919
It's literally just tinfoil you niggerino

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>>146429434
>implying it's thin or any bit comfortable.

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>>146428253
Should I stick to 40 or will going up to 45 not affect the amount of invasions I get? The difference is bening able to invade people above 28 or 32.

At what level are people usually when they get to forbidden woods?

>>146429542
go to 43.

The lowest level you can invade is 30, and 43 is the highest you can be while still invading level 30s.

>>146428919
It's worth material cost + (hours taken * hourly wage based on skill needed)

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>>146429783
Indeed it is!

Is there even a use for old hunter bone?
Seems fucking silly in every circumstance, doesn't last long enough to ever be useful either.

>>146430169
It instantly lets other players know you're a colossal faggot who can't dodge, which is pretty useful imo.

>>146430169
It's for edgelords mostly.

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>>146430169
it is 100% for style
there's a minor increase on dash distance and it hides some start up frames on dash attacks so its ok with the bom but really it's all for the style points

>>146429542
If you're gonna put anything in End then switch to Cruel Fate, you might consider going 30/12/12/9/5/25 at BL 43, or 2 less strength if you change your mind about using Tonitrus.

>>146429783
So 0?

>>146428121
That's not Kosm ya dingus, that's her shitty dissapointment of a son

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>>146424381

>>146430307
>>146430541
It lets you dash through side sweeping attacks doesn't it? Seems useful for stuff like Kos or Undead Giant

>>146431232
Its good against orphan but it also has a pretty short duration so you'll be spending all your bullets on it and then be fucked for the second half of the fight
It's really not too good for pve but you can definately make some fights easier with it

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Guys, it's time to merge back with Armored Core General.

I mean come on, this Souls experiment has been going on long enough.

>>146431576
Okay.

>>146431576
[REFUSE]

>>146431576
What the fuck is armored core?

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>>146427221
Why is your hunter upsidedown?
The tentacles should be in the head not the foot

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>>146431696
delete this

>>146431660
An ancient From Soft game about Mechas

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>>146431880

>>146431576
I hope your mom gets raped.

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>>146431576

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>>146431880
someone's scared of a little penis

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So I recently went through the game and dlc for the first time and I'm in love with it. I'd like to try an arc build but I've been told they are pretty demanding and I'm not really sure where to begin. I would imagine I'd need to start with cruel fate and just pump points into arc correct?

>>146432181
Yes.
Also get Watchdog fire gems as soon as you can.

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>>146432181

Is there a point where EG begins to out damage the black sky eye in terms of damage per bullet? I'm at 45 arcane and it just seems better to spam eye them do EG.

>>146432331
Yeah, I had seen that but will that work if I want to use the HMS and wheel? They both look fucking sick to use, especially the wheel but I'm not sure if they perform better as str weapons or arcane. Then of course there are the versions which have different gem slots and getting the right gems for them.

>>146432598
Just get 25 str and you're fine.
Version: lost
Gems: nourishing
You can only use the wheel with two hands, one handed does shit damage on arc builds.

>>146432717
>Just get 25 str and you're fine.
25 str and 50 arc?

>Version: lost
For both weapons?

>You can only use the wheel with two hands, one handed does shit damage on arc builds.
Good to know, thanks.

>>146432912
Yes and yes.

>>146432912
No, 99 arc and base vit.

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>Watchdogging with Old Wolfs Curved Sword
Those are the only two things I miss in Bloodborne, an area defense covenant and a curved greatsword.
Dammit from, give us another BB dlc, I'll gladly pay for it.

>>146432990
That's not appropriate for HMS and Wheel

>>146430983
Nice edge, senpai. The man put work in and if he wishes to sell the work he should be paid for it.

>>146433060
But the area defense covenants don't work in DS3.

Just pick an area and invade a bunch; same effect.

>>146433080
It is the only way to play the game properly, you memeing fuckboy.

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>>146433060
Another DLC would be kick ass, but I think they're done with these games.

Hopefully Dark Souls 3 DLC will fix it but I seriously doubt it will. I mean there is a lot wrong with it.

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>>146432956
Okay, thanks a bunch anon.

>>146433152
I've been getting tons on invasions as a Watchdog, seems to work just fine

>>146433258
DS3 is fucked beyond repair; the DLC will add some new areas but nothing will really be fixed.

Bloodborne is in a pretty great state right now, attempts to add to it would probably just fuck it up.

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>>146433278
np

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>>146431576
How long do you think you can fool us, Lucifer? Go back to posting on your trip and spamming the same webms. Your memes are NOT funny you fucking faggot.

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>"So anon, tell me about this Bloodborne game you're always playing. What's it about?"

>>146432576
It will never out damage per bullet, but Executioners' Gloves track, have higher burst, and stun, whereas the Blacksky Eye has none of those. The Blacksky Eye is still one of the most useful damage Hunter Tools in the game though.

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>>146433446
>he called me Luci

>>146433492
0/10 made me vomit

>>146429502
What's it made from? Foam?

How do you see out of it?

I'm in Old Yarnham and I don't know what to do. I can make it to the ladder where I can clmib up and attempt to fight the dude manning the gatling gun, but he kills me every time. I did manage to kill the hunter, and he doesnt spawn anymore. I can't climb the ladder by him because the gatling gun mows me down. I've been through the lower area where there's that altar. What do?

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>>146433282
The autosummon covenants are weird, they only seem work for some people. None of them work for me. I still have PTSD from farming all the covenant items.

>>146433385
I'm sure if Fromsoft tried their best they could salvage it. Dark Souls 2 was playable at the end wasn't it?

I don't think another DLC would ruin Bloodborne. I mean what's the worst that could happen, they add another OP weapon? I'm willing to take that risk for some new stuff.

>>146433758
>Proof of concord farming
Took me three straight days to get DMB

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>>146433709
It's Polurethane resin mixed with aluminum and no, while the visor is down I can't. But it does flip up to see out of. The jaw and shell are separate.

>>146432181
Yeah, pump Arc and kill Cleric and Gasgoine with Oil Urns and Molatovs, then destroy BSB with Flamesprayer and more Oil Urns/Molatovs.

After that get your 9% Waning Fire Gem from Church Workshop, and go into the first chalice and get two Fire Radials, Hotdog will give you one and the flaming-weapon Pthumerians can be farmed for Cursed ones really easily (theres a spot on Layer 2 that has two of them within 5 seconds of the lamp).

After that you will plow through Amelia, Hemwick and the Forest. Which lets you acsess Lecture Hall for Auger of Eribritas and Cainhurst for Executioner Gloves. You can go into the DLC if you want, but it will be very hard, if you can beat Ludwig and Maria you'll get Blacksy Eye and Accursed Brew which are helpful.

You can keep doing Chalices for better and better Fire Radials (Depth 3 gives 16.5%), putting the Forbidden Woods Arcane Triangle and the Shitty Nourishing you get from Chalice Rom on a Cane can work well, or a Bolt Radial (Nightmare Frontier) and that same Nourishing on another Saw weapon.

>>146433717
Go back to the church with the hanging beast and go out the back door near the altar. Turn right and that should lead you into the lower part of the town as well as a shortcut ladder.

>get stuck for days on Chalice Amy
>finally beat it
>"Oh wow, that was annoying. I'm really glad I don't have to do that again!"
>next chalice features Amy
I fucking hate this game.

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Post Hoonters with cool Bloodstains on them.

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>>146434230

>>146434149
Ok I found the shortcut ladder already so I guess I need to explore some more down there.

>>146434151
Uh, no it doesnt....

After Defiled Amy next Chalice is either Lower Loran or Isz to get materials for Pthumuru Ihyll, and none of those 3 have Amy in them. Did you accidentally make a Root Chalice?

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>>146434230

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>>146434460
Cursed and defiled Pthumerian chalice is what it's called.

I'll gladly skip this bullshit if it's not necessary.

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>>146434821

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>146434953
Did I just get a shitty roll on what boss I get stuck with? I don't give a fuck about it if I don't need it.

I have Great Pthumeru Ithyl, Lower Loran, and Great Isz. Am I missing one of the last ones by skipping this Amy fight?

>>146435167
Yes. You're stuck with it unfortunately.

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>>146434821
Wait, if Cursed and Defiled is your next chalice, where the fuck did you fight Amy the first time?

Also Arcane Builds make it quite easy.

>>146435406
>>146435448
Fought her the first time in Defiled Chalice.

Oh wait fuck. Roots are the unnecessary ones right? I just noticed the Root in the name.

This one is called Cursed and Defiled Root Chalice.

>>146435678
Roots are the only reason you're doing the normal ones, anon.

>>146435678
Yeah, Roots and randomly generated ones that you dont need to do (unless you want top tier gems, then get used to fighting Cursed Amy and worse).

If you just want the Platnium trophy all you need to do it complete Pthumuru Ihyll.

>>146435846
Oh thank God. Amy was the hardest fight I've ever done. I could not handle it. I only won through sheer luck. It's the one fight I cannot git gud at.

I mean I even beat Abhorrent Beast by dodging sideways instead of backstepping like a fag and that took less time for me.

>>146435997
I honestly don't understand how people have difficulty with Amygdala. Every attack is super telegraphed and easily dodged, with the exception of the arcane-ball-hand AOE, which can simply be outspaced, even in smaller chalice dungeon arenas. Not to mention I've never been 0HKO by Amygdala, and I run most of my builds <20 VIT until my damage stats are done.

>>146436259
I don't understand either. I get stuck on the dumbest bosses it seems. I can run through AB and not get hit but I'll get stuck on the first BSB for no reason whatsoever.

>>146433135
I can make that in less than an hour

>>146437007
Well let's see then, you master craftsman you.

>>146437129
It's shit

Why the hell would I make shit?
I'd rather make Silent Hill Homecoming's Great Knife

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>>146437242
>out of all the series
>Homecoming

k, enjoy

>>146400320
can someone summon me in a ng world for ez echoes ?

>>146437470
>>
u fokkin wot m8
>>

>>146437470
This is a request I've never seen before.

>>146437470
Just run around a depth 3 chalice or something if you want easy echoes. You'll probably get more than if you helped kill a boss.

>>146437668
yes i know, im leveling up a friends char but he is not that far, i was just testing if i could get lucky here

What are the best bolt wanings? The abyssals from the Loran Darkbeast or the ones from the Abhorrent Beast that have the double secondary effect?

>>146438030
abhorrent beast
22.8 +33

>>146414248
The fuck is he wielding?

>>146437874
>im leveling up a friends char
...

fucking WHY?

>>146438276
Bloodletter. I don't even have the DLC and I know what it is.

>>146438413
Sweet epeen bro.

>>146437392
The Giant Kabar Knife just resonates with me for some reason

>>146438276
A ball of condensed Aspeger's.

>>146438404
>Filename
Let's be honest here, the Kilj is not the worst offender of balance in DeS.

>>146438276
Tricked Bloodletter.

>>146438532
Not at all. I think Kilij is actually pretty mediocre compared to other meta PvP stuff (which says more about DeS PvP than it does the Kilij). But Kilij IS a big offender in the "I made a tiny mistake and got totally blown the fuck out for it" category.

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>>146423085
In fact, forget the whole reference

i want coop so bad
anyone need help please identify

>>146438805
The Keelhauler is far worse in that regard, considering its massive AR and hard knockdown which can't be toggled, as opposed to the Kilij which can be toggled, assuming you recognize that you made a mistake early and therefore are ready to toggle.

I honestly love DeS PvP to death and back, in part because of its imbalances. Each encounter is off-the-walls entertaining, much like Bloodborne, actually. This is coming from someone that doesn't use the "OP" weapons (at least as far as I know). My favorite weapon in that game to use in both PvE and PvP is the LSoM. The DeS version of that sword is by far my favorite out of any game followed by DaS1, then BB, not that it matters.

I'd really love to find people to go back to DeS PvP with, but /dsg/ shits on pretty much everything that's no DaS1 and nowhere else cares about the game anymore.

>>146438276
Have you really never seen the blood letter before? It's from the DLC.

>>146434326
YHARNAM

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>>146440454
Kill yourself.

>>146439893
You *can* toggle knockdowns in Demon's Souls, but vast majority of people, even regular PvP'ers, didn't know that. If you're strafing to the left when you get hit by a knockdown, you can toggle and quickstand from the KD. I don't know the exact timing because I didn't learn of this until after the game was pretty dead and there weren't many people to try it with. But it definitely works.

Kilij you usually don't toggle escape. Kilij is kinda like straightswords in DkS3, I guess? I haven't done much DkS3 PvP, but they do a similar thing where they R1 spam at you, and when you roll away, you're almost guaranteed to get hit out of your roll. And in DeS where damage output is really high, one R1 followed by instability R1 usually means cracked SC.

But yeah, every weapon in DeS feels crazy powerful, even when they're not that good, and it's a big part of what I love about the PvP. Just did some 4-1 PvP the other day and had lots of fun.

LSoS wasn't popular, or very strong, but it wasn't totally unusable. There was one good PvP'er who used it a bit. Curved Sword moveset + huge range is really annoying, and can be dangerous if you underestimate it. But its damage is really bad, so even if you landed three times as many hits as your opponent, you'd probably still lose.

Personally I always stuck with the meta PvP weapons/builds. I thought there was plenty of variety in them. My favorites were 2H katana (not dual-wielded), Dragonbone Smasher, and Knight Sword/BBS. I used pretty much everything at one point or another, though.

Still admiring the Ludwig fight. Just amazing from a game design and art perspective, a great example of mixing mechanics and story. Ludwig himself represents a lot of Bloodborne's core themes and it all comes together beautifully.

>>146440967
Wait wait wait just one damn second. You can toggle knockdowns in DeS? I've spent almost 1k hours in that game and never did it, even when I had toggling down to instinct so I tried it anyway. Is that really true? That blows my mother fucking mind.
As far as toggling the Kilij, what I mean is you can queue up a toggle if you go outspaced or simply missed your attack and are stuck in the animation, which helps you get out after only one or two hits.
Also I was talking about the Large Sword of Moonlight, not the Large Sword of Searching. The Large Sword of Search I imagine is like the Penetrating sword, meaning it has great range but shit damage. The Penetrating Sword can be buffed though and the LSoS can't.
I used the BSS on my first PvP build, but I couldn't stand the reliance on the buff. I could have used the NR after the buff ran out, but that just wasn't my style. I did use LMAO 2 KATS though. Pushlock was never something I used because I deemed it OP and I have a perverted sense of honor that only applies to me, but the quick attacks and extended moveset were fun to use.

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>playing BB for the first time
>not so hard after DS3
>get up to Shadow of Yharnam, smooth sailing so far
>oh right, this game has DLC, I go buy it
Holy fuck, this has to be the hardest the Souls series has ever been. Everything is kicking my ass. I managed to brute force my way to Ludwig, but I've hit a wall. Am I trying this too early? Should I be a higher level? I'm 40, for the record.

>>146442575
Yea. You should probably be around SL 70, maybe higher. 40 Is way too low.

>>146442575
Yeah, you should be around 65 I think they recommend to tackle the DLC, though I went in around your level and pillaged the first area and Ludwig around your level just for the weapons. Took me 6 tries to down him.

>>146442575
DLC is the hardest part of the game, it's best to do it just before the final boss. Although feel free to run around picking up items in the first area, there's some good weapons and cool outfits, plus a bunch of Chunks for upgrading.

>>146442691
Damn, I guess I should retreat. I really wanted beast mode, though.

>>146443074
Rune enhanced beast claw actually worse than using without, it's a lot slower and all you get is better beasthood generation

>>146442575
summon me bretty prease

>>146443175
But it's cool. Also building up beasthood more quickly is probably better for PvE.

>>146443175
>Rune enhanced beast claw actually worse than using without
That's incredible

>>146444137
Once the beasthood is built up you want to hit more quickly though. Even regular weapons with Beast Blood Pellets can fill up beasthood quickly enough and keep it filled.

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>>146441760
Ludwig fucks me up, man.

>I never wanted to know what it really was... Really, I didn't!

Ludwig wasn't curious about the HMLS's origin. He didn't want to look a gift horse in the mouth (so to speak). He was simply satisfied to have the protection and guidance of the moonlight with him when out on hunts.

This is in direct opposition to the antagonistic institutions of the game. The Healing Church and Byrgenwerth both committed atrocities in their search for insight. Pretty much every bad thing in Bloodborne is a result of their attempts at ascension.

Ludwig's incurious nature is meant be ennobling by its opposition to these institutions. In an Icarian story about selfish men reaching for the stars, even if it means burning the world around them down, Ludwig is satisfied with what he has. He uses his existing station to better peoples' lives, not for his own gain. But it's also his tragic flaw.

Ludwig was a tool of the Healing Church, and his lack of curiosity is what enabled him to be used by them. Ludwig knew what people thought of his church hunters, but believed them to be noble despite what his detractors said. He believed that the church hunters helped to keep people safe by slaying beasts, and was blind to the fact that they were effectively becoming a state terrorist organization for the Healing Church. And Simon says this, upon giving you the HMLS:

>Here... this is Ludwig's guiding light. The blinding thread that lead and misled that consummate hero.

So even the HMLS was taking advantage of Ludwig in some capacity, though it's left ambiguous as to how.

The conclusion drawn by Ludwig's character is that the same trait that allowed him to be heroic, also led to him being taken advantage of. Which is a really bleak implication with an upsetting level of relevance to the real world.

Well I made it to the blood starved beat. I was actually doing pretty well and got him below half health until I ran out of bullets and blood vials.

>>146445127
Strafe left and keep shootin Tex!

>>146442569
Oh whoops, LSoM. I found LSoM kind of bothersome to play against. Like I'd be turtling with a shield, and some guy takes it out, so I just two-hand my weapon. Then they'd switch back to their other weapon, so I'd go back to turtling. It was this weird back-and-forth, but it was easier for me to switch from 1H to 2H than it was for them to switch to LSoM and 2H it.

Oh yeah, queue'ing a toggle before getting hit would be useful. That's another thing I didn't learn of until after DeS had mostly died down. I used it a lot in DkS where it was pretty unfair. Zweihander user manages to actually trader attacks with your katana? Toggle backstab them for their troubles.

And yes, quickstanding is really a thing. You have to be strafing, and I *think* you have to be strafing left and it won't work if you strafe right, but I'm not 100% positive on that.

I also don't like BBS's buff reliance, I used KS instead most of the time. It's still more reliant on CW than a lot of physical weapons, but it's not nearly as bad as BBS.

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>>146444789
>So even the HMLS was taking advantage of Ludwig in some capacity, though it's left ambiguous as to how.

I like to think Moon Presence was manipulating Ludwig through the HMS somehow.
It is implied the sword has a conscience of it's own and that it decides who to show itself to and who to offer gudiance which is "of an elusive sort."

>>146445396
>picture thumbnail

NAGASAKI

>>146444789
That or the Church was actually half way decent when he was around, which seems likely. Then Once he was gone, they became corrupt D-Bags like most organizations do. They started caring more about their own power than helping the people they were created to help.

>>146445396
>dat thumbnail tho

how do i get such eyes

>>146445349
I love the LSoM so much. It looks badass, it has a light equip weight, it's got a single damage type that isn't physical, it's got scaling with an unconventional stat, it goes through mother fucking shields. So many boxes checked for me.

In DkS toggle was retardedly unfair against heavy weapons. Not to mention that 90% of the time heavy weapons were RBS bait. Basically each time a heavy weapon attacked, whether you got hit or not, it was a free BS.
I'm gonna have to look into this quickstanding thing. I've literally never heard of this before. Too bad I'll never be able to use it because no one fucking plays DeS anymore besides me
I don't know what the KS is, but I'm really not a fan of buff reliance. I'm okay with having a buff as a supplement, but the weapon should stand on its own as far as I'm concerned.

>>146445807
>which seems likely.
haha no

The Church was always a religious front for a shady research institution.

>>146446006
Well, we can agree to disagree, friend.

How to make a fun arcane run without the dlc?
Just finished my second playthrough.
One with the rifle spear, the other with Ludwigs Holy Blade.

I have zero sense of direction of where to go asides that cane and tortintus i think it was scale with arcane.

>>146446216
>he actually believes he has friends

Shit guys this is actually getting a bit too sad.

>>146446276
LHB is the best non-DLC Arc weapon.

>>146446353
Do I just stack arcane to 50 or go with split str/arcane?

So, what does Yharnam leaving the EU mean for the beast scourge?

>>146446482
You want minimum Str and Skl because when you switch to ARC scaling you lose all your Str and Skl scaling.

>>146446276
I'm going to assume you don't have the DLC.

The Logarius Wheel scales incredibly hard with Arcane in its tricked form. Other than that literally every non-bloodtinge weapon that isn't named BoM or Burial Blade can be used because you convert pure phys damage weapons with elemental blood gems. High ARC scaling pure phys weapons include the LHB, Threaded Cane, and Kirkhammer, but every pure phys weapons can be good, especially with Cold blood gems. Other than that, if you're going a pvp-viable build, go for 25 STR and 50 ARC if you want to use Tonitrus and the Wheel, if you have a particular weapon you want to use, go to base stats on that weapon (ex. 16/12 on LHB), then dump the rest into ARC, finally if you want to maximize Hunter Tool damage, leave base stats at minimum and pump ARC up to 70, which allows you to use all of the starter weapons + the Saw Spear.

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>>146400320
Now that Britain has AWAY AWAY'd the EU do you think that their new isolationism could perhaps spark a rise of Yharnam-like populace cultures?

How would one go about nurturing such a dream?

>finish build
>don't need blood echoes
>still get mad when I lose a large amount
THere's no escaping this is there? I'm addicted to the blood!

>>146446489
>>146446882
Good. We have a serious problem with radical Pthumerians, and we can't be the stupid city anymore.

>>146445965
KS = Knight's Sword.

What's your PSN? I'm TalentedJuli. If you did 4-1 stuff back in the day, you might recognize my old PSNs, Saturday-Saint/N-A-F-T-W. I still do some DeS from time to time. Like I said, I did some 4-1 PvP a couple days ago, had a proper fight club going with reds and blues.

>>146445807
> Church may have been halfway decent during his time.

Hahahahaha

Do you not remember the area that follows Ludwigs boss fight?

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>>146447054
it's unironically enough to make a man literally sick

>>146447097
>implying he ever played the dlc

>>146447070
My PSN is Pope_Charles_IV. I did some work in the DkS1 scene, but never really got into dueling (aka 4-1 stuff) before DeS died due to the fanbase splitting among so many games. What region are you in? I heard that only the Japanese version has active PvP, but if other regions are good, then I have hope.

>>146447260
It really is. I just lost 550k right now from stunlock to death.

I am mad.

MYGA

>>146447860
I have NA and JP.

NA is not active, but sometimes I get together with old friends and we have a night of PvP.

>>146448279
Unfortunately I only have NA. If you ever have one of those nights, go ahead and hit me up though. It's been a long time since I've done some DeS PvP. I love that game so much.

>>146447289
People know my PSN ID.

What progression do I make for Chalices to be worth doing?
I get nothing worth it, just learned I should be doing root chalices and defiled I think it was.
But out of resources to create rituals.
On my second toon didnt want to mess it up so bad.

Holy hell, Loran Darkbeast has so much health. This is silly.

>>146448776
Just do the Pthumeru ones. Roots are optional but you can get more materials and items.
>toon
Anon, I...

>>146448776
You should be ignoring the root chalices until you beat the non-root chalice after Defiled. The earlier roots aren't worth it for end game. The deeper root chalices are the ones with good loot. You have to complete the non-roots to get them.

>>146448776
You need to do all of the normal chalices first, with the exception of hintertomb of course because it's useless. After you finish them all, the three root chalices you'll be using are Lower Loran, Pthumeru Ihyll, and Isz. To maximize the rewards you get from those root chalices, you'll want to enhance them with Fettid Rotting and Cursed rituals.

Also obligatory
>toon

>>146448776
Do you have PS+?

Play online and don't make your own Chalice's, just join ones that people already made to easily get more materials to make the nesisary ones to progress.

In the future when the servers inevitably go down forever Gem farming will be downright insanity inducing.

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>>146448776
>toon

>>146448905
>Loran Darkbeast has so much health.
After several attempts I can see why it's called Loran Camerabeast. This is fucking retarded. Xbox HUEG enemies should not fly around the room like this.

Would some big manly co-operator like to help me with lower pthumeru undead giant?
Pass is bbg, ringing at lamp

Mfw I've picked up a bad habit of refreshing pages unnecessarily from 4chan. Fuck the auto refresh.

>>146449557
I always prefer the F5 option, not a big fan of auto-refresh

>>146449183
How can anyone use that term without pissing blood? It's just awful.

Does anyone else positively love co-op and bosses but feel like actual PvE isn't worth it on NG+ and beyond?

I find myself doing speed runner strats through old most areas, notably castle cainhurst and old Yharnam. Feels weird to be looking forward to an area to just say fuck it and sprint through to shortcuts. I feel like the game has similar problems to DaS1 towards endgame. After beating rom it's a race to Gherman after hitting the bosses as fast as possible.

>>146450008
Yeah, I think most people are like that. At most, people go to NG+ to unlock the extra stuff in the shops.

>>146450008
every souls game gets that on repeat plays, running by enemies is too easy.

>>146450008
I do speedrun strats for NG and then take my sweet time with subsequent runs

>>146448650
It's like DesecratedFlame or something edgy like that, yes? Because for some reason that's what comes to mind.

And before you get too full of yourself, I know a lot of people's PSN's that hang around here. Mostly FCers and co-op regulars.

>>146442575
Level doesn't mattter. You want a +9 weapon

>>146450008
Doesn't it seem counter intuitive to be skipping the majority of the content in the game if you really like the game?
Though it is generally more efficient in souls games to just walk past everyone, I think BB does a better job than the others at hindering it. Enemies generally have an easier time catching up to the player, at least.

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>"Hey guys, remember how all the trophies in BB were fairly straight forward 'just play the game' things?"
>"Yeah? What about it?"
>"Well I was thinking, how about for DaS3 we just make them extremely fucking tedious like 'find every spell or ring,' oh and we'll make it so some of those spells/rings can only be acquired through days of farming 30 or so items from enemies that only drop one item ever few hours"
>"That sounds horrible"
>"I know! But don't worry, we'll break the covenants so it's borderline impossible to get the items the way you're supposed to."
Wake me up from this hell

>>146451845
Good thing I got DaS3 on steam and don't give a shit about steam chevios

>>146451845
Come play Bloodborne instead of being a ravenous trophy whore.

Spoiler: they don't do shit

>>146451845
Don't forget the easily miss-able or easy to screw up NPC quests that can lock you out of shit.

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>>146451845
step away from the skinner box anon

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>>146452272
>step away from the skinner box anon
>the only thing left to do in Bloodborne is poke at FRC bosses until perfect gems drop

>>146452828
What a country bumpkin

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>>146452828
>he doesn't splunk
>he doesn't ring his small resonant bell
>he doesn't do a sinister bell playthrough


aha

>>146452998
>>he doesn't do a sinister bell playthrough
How does that work? You get to an area, invade a few times then move on?

>>146453130
Always ring the bell. You'll either invade or get invaded. In either case losing sends you back to the lamp.

>>146453130
play through the game with your sinister res always on

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>>146452016
I swear anon, I would have never gone back to DaS3 if BB didn't lack curved greatswords

Why Miyazaki, why is the curved greatsword the only weapon class that isn't in BB?

>>146453217
Ring the bell at every lamp? I can get down with that.

>>146453308
>if BB didn't lack curved greatswords

The untricked saif has a curved greatsword moveset though.

>>146452998
>he doesn't do a sinister bell playthrough
I'm too shite at pvp to do that. Out of the 12 or so times I've been invaded I killed the other guy twice. Why does every invader use the chikage or wheel?

>>146453130
Ring your bell. Silence it when an S-Maiden shows up or just leave it ringing.

>>146453308
isn't the beast cutter curved?

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>>146453312
Always. Ring. the Bell.

NEVER. STOP. RINGING. THE. BELL.

>>146453353
It's more of a curved sword than a curved greatsword honestly

>>146453308
What sword is that? I'd do another DS3 playthrough for something that cool looking.

>>146453494
Old Wolf Curved Sword, got a fun gimmicky moveset like all the Artorias stuff

>>146453540
Sweet. I could speedrun over to Farron and farm grass a bit.

>>146453494
>>146453540
It's actually the weapon that made me give DaS3 another shot, it's a shining beckon of hellafun in a sea of absolute mediocrity

>>146453473
>the moveset

It's slow as shit, and it's curved and long. It's a curved greatsword.

>>146453647
Just doesn't rub me up in that CGS kinda way, ya know.

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was it a consensual pregnancy or nah?

>>146449476
are you still there

For a bloodtinge build, how much VIT and END should I have? Obviously 50 BLT, should I go 25 skill or just base? What order should I level them in?

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>>146455050
1/2

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>>146455151
2/2

>>146434008
hey you posted on CGL a while ago u never showed me who your cute friend was with the butt :3

>>146455151
>>146455269
Is this better for PVP than a chikag/eve build?

>>146455532
I think so. This can make use of the Chikage and Evelyn too. The one handed Chikage isn't really any good anyway.

Is cainhurst doable at lv45 with a +6 saw spear? I want the to get the chikage asap

>>146457738
Probably, and even if it isn't there's probably a bored anon of two lurking who'd be happy to help you through.

>>146457835
Idk, i remember struggling against logarius on my 1st run at lv65 with a +7 ludwig

>>146457961

Set up a password and I'll lend you a hand if you need one.

>>146458059
I'm not home atm and I won't be for the next 8 hours

>>146458165

Alrighty then.

anyone up to FRC abhorrent beast?
pass is bbgab

>>146459179
>cursed abhorrent
Why tho. Why would you subject yourself to such torture?

>>146459179

Give me 5 minutes and a glyph.

>>146459179
Ringing

>>146459308
it's layer 3

Any second thoughts on optimal bloodtinge builds? I mostly want to use the Bowblade and the Chikage + a Eve or something cool for PVP.
That STR build does look interesting tho