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>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
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>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
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>Beasthood & Claws Info
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>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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First for Steak Dinner.
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QUICK, CLAIM WEAPONFU
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>>146170010
Cane best starter weapon
Can best weapon
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>>146170010
See >>146169965
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I can't fuckin' do it, guys. I cannot beat the Orphan.
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What's the difference between FRC chalice and just a C chalice in regards to the gem I get from the layer 3 boss? Or anything else for that matter. What does F and R do?
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>>146170467
Set a pass, so we can bully the parentless child!
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>>146170467
This guy did it at max NG+ at level 4:
https://youtu.be/0TJrw5gwx-o

Just watch that to learn how to deal with the orphan.
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What's a good strategy for the Loran Darkbeast? He carts me every single time. I feel like I can't do anything.
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>>146171616
Loran Darkbeast is handled in a very methodical fashion. If you have a fire and/or serrated weapon, that's what you want to use. Focus your attacks on one of his hind legs. Once it breaks, move on to the other one while he still has his lightning down. You want to hit the back legs first since they take more hits to break than his fronts do. Once you've broken all four of his legs, he should only have about a quarter of his health left, less even, depending on your damage output. When he's on the ground from the fourth and final legbreak, go for the head. It'll stagger him, open him up for a visceral, and either take out the rest of his health if you have high skill, or simply do good damage and put him in enough hitstun to finish him off.

It's frustrating at first, but when you finally get the patterns down it's honestly kind of cathartic.

Oh, and fight him with your camera unlocked. His lockon points are wack, and with his constant scrambling about the arena, it'll only make things harder for you.
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>>146172275
Thanks. He's my target after I savescum the fuck out of Pthumerian Elder, and I've always had trouble with him. Even with Paarl I always come back after I'm overleveled as fuck because I can't fight that archetype well.
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I always thought nourishing was the best gem type for the wheel, but I just saw a video with someone that had exclusively 9.8% tempering gems that have a secondary +72 arcane damage. Are these the best for the wheel on an ARC build?
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Jesus Rom in the depth 3 dungeon is demolishing me. What are the old tips for him? Been ages since I played and wanted to finally beat chalice dungeons
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>>146173515
Just blow him to bits with a cannon, if you can wield it
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>>146173909
I'll try that next time, ended up just using mah pizza cutter. Should probably upgrade the canon at some point as well
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Is there a generally accepted level cap for maximum multiplayer activity? 120 is my usual guess, but that seems a bit high for this game.
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>>146170878
I appreciate the offer, but I've soloed every other boss in Soulsborne and I would feel like a massive failure now to fail at the last hurdle. I guess I'll need to finally git gud.
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>>146174019
I go 110. It allows me to play with 98 memers and 120 memers. 110 master race. 117 is the max level that you can play with people that go 98 though.
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>>146173515
>clear all the baby spiders first
>get prepped first (let stamina full refill, pop BBP and paper, etc)
>attack the fuck out of her, even as she is fading out
^the idea here is to make her skip her second spot (which is the middle of the room, which leaves you at a big disadvantage) and got straight to he last spot on the far end of the room
>use the pillars as cover and wipe out all the baby spiders near you, then move up the right side of the room, using pillars for cover
>wipe out any nearby spiders (bait them to the pillars)
>when you get to the last pillar and take out any baby spiders, wait for an opening in Rom's spam, then do a sprinting attack to her face
^CD Rom's face doesn't have the same massive damage reduction as story Rom's.

>>146174019
For BB, the perfect level is 98. It lets you invade people going through the nightmare of Mensis and lets you co-op naturally be summoned by as low as lebel 60s, among other benefits.
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>>146174385
Speaking of which do I have to go to 117 if I want to be viable with arcane? I fucked up my build so I could barely use the moonlight greatsword but even without fucking my build 50 STR 70 arcane doesn't seem possible with 98.
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>When you're invading and the phantom has a max health pool of ~600

I don't get it. Why do people run such low vit? Especially with the health penalty phantoms get. He died in two hits from a fucking Stake Driver. I'd have killed him in one on my arc build!
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I'm on my first playthrough ever right now and using Ludwig's sword. Just got the Whirlygig Saw. I've read about how awesome it is, so I went straight to upgrading it to +9. My Ludwig's sword is +9 as well. My Ludwig's still outdamages the whirlygig with 32 strength and 25 skill. Is the pizza cutter a meme weapon or is it actually good? Will it outdamage Ludwig's at some point if I keep on leveling my strength?
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>>146174786
I meant 50 vit not strength.
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>>146175209
Because they aren't built for PvP

>>146175224
LHB is a Quality weapon (scales from Str and Skl). The Pizza Cutter is a Str weapon.

For the Whirly, you want a build that looks closer to this. With High Str the Whirly becomes the best PvE weapon in the game.
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>>146174786
I use 110 for all of my builds, so I don't know if I'm the right person to ask, but I love my ARC build. It's literally my favorite build I've made. Why the fuck are you going 50STR 70ARC though? 25STR 50ARC for builds that use the HMS, Wheel and Tonitrus, For flat damage weapons, just get the base stats and 50 or higher ARC, or if you want to use the Kos Parasite and the starting weapons (Saw Cleaver, Cane, Axe) then stay base STR/SKL and pump that ARC.
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>>146175491
>>146175224
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Tfw savescumming Pthumerian Elder and get a Blood Rock but a shitty gem so you have to softreset anyway.
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>>146175491
Thanks for the quick answer. Since there isn't a way to respec (?) I probably wasted too many points on skill already so I'll just keep on using the Ludwig's sword. I like its moveset a tad better anyway, and it looks better with my executioner set.

Is the pizza cutter's one handed mode decent or is the weapon strictly for two-handing?
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What's the best place to grind in the game? I'm going through the very first room of Iszh Gravestone level three, and am getting ~100,000 blood echoes per run, but I'm wondering if there's a more efficient spot somewhere. I'm trying to get all of my stats to 40 for the sake of being able to try everything to see what I want to do for my next build, but I'm at level 137 right now and it is quickly becoming a slog again.
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>>146175502
I meant vit right now I can end with 50/12 /18/12/ 5/51 but It was supposed to be kos parasite and then I wanted to use the Whirligig. I still want to use the kos parasite and arcane tools though. If I get to 117 I can get arcane to 70.
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>>146176024
No respecs. LHB is also amazing though. The Pizza Cutter is good in one handed mode too.
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>>146176168
Cheers bro.

I'm still using my hunter's pistol I picked right at the start, there isn't any need to replace it with something else? I have 7 bloodtinge. Also, are guns worth upgrading?
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>>146176167
There's really not much of a reason to go to 70 ARC aside from maximizing Hunter Tool efficiency. I run 50 ARC and my Hunter Tools still do significant enough damage to use them consistently. If you want to use the HMS, Wheel, or Tonitrus then I recommend going to 25 STR. If not, then go to 20 STR for your Whirligig then dump your remaining points (117 or 110 or whatever you prefer) into END or ARC. I think you may find 12 END is low for weapons like the HMS and Whirligig so I recommend trying them out at that END before you put more stats into something.
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>>146176167
You can try everything out at level 117.

>>146176343
Personally, I get 8 tinge so I can use the repeating pistol. It is worth upgrading. Even at 8 tinge it does a ton of damage if you use a BMA.

Unless you are on a BLT build though, the other guns aren't worth upgrading, imo. For the most part they are just parry tools, and you can't still parry with them even without upgrading them. That said, there is no reason not to upgrade them if you already have your main weapons upgraded and the spare materials are just taking up space in your inventory. You should upgrade them on a BLT build though, because they do a tone of damage.
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>>146176943
Thanks a ton for the advice, I might try out the repeating pistol. Now it's back to farming blood vials so I can finally beat Maria.
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>>146176770
Eh. I'll stick with the 98 build for now. If I need to pump to 70 I will. It sucks that the scaling requires so much arcane.
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>>146177308
Happy to help.

This is what an 8 BLT repeating pistol can do:
https://youtu.be/tXwxAgA7tak?t=48s
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>>146176006
I usually keep the rocks and re run the dungeon.

Whats the "best" str weapon for pvp?
I might just pop heavy abyssals into a saif or church pick if nothing is any good
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>>146179135
when you str, EVERYTHING is a str weapon
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>>146179135
People seem to do well with the Whirly's dash R1.
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>>146174385
120s can be invaded by Bl 76-142 tho
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>>146179135
Untricked Wheel, Tonitrus, Beast Cutter, Kirkhammer, Amygdala Arm, Whirligig Saw, Boom Hammer, Hunter Axe, Saw Cleaver. The "best" is the one you like best.
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>>146179241
Just wondering if theres a best str weapon in peoples eyes like the skill rakuyo
>>146179504
Holy fuck i was so excited for the whirligig b4 the dlc hit but during gameplay while im wearing those psn wireless headsets and the weapon sounds are way too annoying.
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>>146179557
But 120 can't invade 98, friendo.
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>>146179807
Hunters Axe is always a safe bet
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We're at two hours of savescumming Pthumerian Elder. Still no good gem. Contemplating suicide.
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>>146179847
Good.

Those cucks ruin all the fun.

>WHAA WHYD YOU SHOOT AT ME IN DARK SOULS WITH GUNS

>WHAA YOU PRESSED R1 TOO MUCH AND I DIDN'T TRY TO DODGE IT

>YOU BEAT ME BUT I'M SO GOOD THAT YOU BEATING ME MUST MEAN YOU'RE BAD
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>>146179847
Why would that matter? A 98 can still invade a 120.
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>>146180009
>savescumming

The RNG knows.

kill yourself
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>>146180147
If I'm the one invading, I want to be able to invade as wide a range of people as possible.
>>146180091
110 masterrace representing.
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>>146170119
What was that, the running R1 of the tricked Cane is just a shitty slash with no range
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>>146179661
>>146179929
Bah, quit throwing weapon suggestions like I'm new.
I was wondering if after all this time there was a new dash flat arc wheel attack or something. Been away for awhile.
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>>146180465
There's no obviously "best" STR weapon like the Rakuyo. Every weapon aside from the Shithammer is viable.
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>>146180465
Just HA up a Rakuyo or Saif.
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>>146180465
Whirly dash r1 spam is not bad but outclassed by the bloodletter dash r1 spam.

>>146180445
Press R2
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>>146180091
>get bitched at for using bma repeater, bunch of fgts in the fc use the cannon while i held myself back.
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>>146180271
GOT ONE OF THE COLD ABYSSALS I WANTED.
Now only 2 more to go
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>>146180594
>>146180681
>>146180708
Thanks fellas
Anyone else think the whirligig is irritating to use in terms of its sounds?
I feel like im wearing crazy pants!
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>>146180717
These people really need to learn how to play the game instead of just stripping elements out because they don't want to figure out how to deal with them.

protip: most "broken" stuff in Souls games is super easy to counter
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>>146180408
but everyone here is 98
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>>146180935
It doesn't bother me, but I definitely understand how it could bother you. I couldn't use lightning weapons in DS1 because of the sound.
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>>146180935
I love the sound. It's basically a screeching "PARRY NOW!"
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>>146181027
You do you, man. I'll stick with my glorious 110. It's such a pretty number.
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>>146181027
But everyone else doesn't give a fuck.
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>>146181193
Y'know what's an even prettier number? 111
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Why is the Kos Parasite such shit? I have a full set of pretty good ARC gems and my AR is barely breaking 300. Is this how it's supposed to be?
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>>146181268
No no no. You don't understand the glory of the 0. This is why people ignored the superior 120 meta in DS1 in favor of 125. They didn't understand how nice and clean 120 was. I'm almost getting a chubby just thinking about it
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>>146181332
I think the Milkweed moves have multipliers that make up for the apparently low AR, but I've never tried using it seriously enough to be sure.
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>>146181265
who cares about everyone else? we can still invade and wreck them.
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>>146181463
But if you like zeroes so much, why not stop at 100 instead? It has two of them!
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>>146181546
Then come invade and wreck me.
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>>146181578
Because one zero perfectly balances the clean style of the one and my favorite number, the two. It's almost like looking at the Sistine Chapel in number form.
Also I've got some terrible OCD, and it makes it easier to make my builds
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>>146180959
No rule fc?
No rule fc.
One rule
No bitching.
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>>146181812
>i have ocd

No you don't.
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>>146181046
>>146181089
Do either if you use the whirligig, sony wireless gold headset WITH the bloodborne specific audio settings?
Shit gets crazy ambient and whirligigs are louuuuud.
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>>146181332
>>146181485

This guy has me curious about making the unarmed moveset viable.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=odk1MXc1lz8
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>>146182087
Nope. I've never used a headset with my console before.
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>>146182087
>fighting Gascoigne with wireless headset
>he does his jump attack and crushes a bunch of gravestones
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So when does pure Blt get fun? I'm currently at 30 Vit, 20 End, 30 Blt, everything else at base. Chikage does respectable damage in tricked form but nowhere near enough to make the HP drain worthwhile.
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>>146182087
>sony wireless gold headset WITH the bloodborne specific audio settings

This sounds so absurdly autistic I might need to sell my PS4.
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>>146181780
can't, busy playing atelier sophie
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>>146182603
The trick to doing that in PvE is using the transformation attacks. For some reason the transformation attack from untricked to tricked Chikage has a crazy multiplier. Additionally untricked to tricked R2 decreases the health lost by half.
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>>146182603
When you get the Bloodletter.
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>>146182603
I kept a blunderbuss with a +5hp for negating momenta of tricked chikage. You care less when you 2h
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>>146182603
when you use my build
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>>146182738
Do u need meds dude? I dont think u know wut ur saying.

Jokes aside, it seems to really bring out everything like yharnamites have lines i havent heard or amelias prayer being clear as fuck.
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Does anyone know of a glyph that has a mob Watcher that drops high level (over 23.9%) Fire/Bolt/Arc gems? I sick of spending so long on these Watcher bossfights only to get a Tempering gem.
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>>146181907
Looks like people want to bitch.
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>>146182845
Thanks for the tips

>>146182929
Not looking forward to trying to kill Ludwig with this build tbqh. Unless he's highly vulnerable to rapid poison.

>>146182969
Is +5 enough to fully negate it? I assumed it was % based like Power Within.
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>>146184281
I put one in just so it heals like 20 hp after a few tricked r1s but it'll take awhile to heal the tricked r2.
Also the hp drain on the r2 is shortens if you go from neutral>l1>r2.
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>>146182325
The damage seems a little low unless it's ungemed.
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>>146185887
He has gems in his description.
All flat arc.
Looks pretty effective.
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h-how do I beat Pthumerian Descendant in Ihyll
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>>146185974
Oh he just has 40 arcane. Too bad the stupid thing scales like hunter tools.
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>>146186091
Parries.
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>>146186091
HMPH HMPH HMPH HMPH
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>>146186091
Same way you beat him the first time, he just does a bit more damage now. Parry a lot.
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>>146186246
I just beat him with Augur spam.

TIME TO LEARN PARRIES
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what the fuck...

You can hit Exit Game even while an invader is present?

From pls
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So why the fuck do weapons have absurdly different health regains? A bonesaw with R1 mash can recover everything if whatever they attack doesn't die but you'll be lucky to recover a tenth of what you lost with a wheel.
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Okay, may need help with Descendant. Anyone wanna assist my sorry ass if I don't get it in the next few tries?
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>>146186747
give a pass and I'll SRRC
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>>146186529
Each weapon just has a different multiplier. It really should be listed on the stat screen.

AFAIK the Burial Blade has the best in the game. Combined with the fact it has hyperarmour on R1 spam, you basically never need to use vials against weaker enemies.
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>>146186873
Pass is 'egghead', I'll be at the fog gate
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>>146186873
Gonna be here within five minutes or naw?
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>>146187626
Ringing.
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>>146187687
Jesus christ are you kidding me

One more try?
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>>146188169
Ok
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>>146186305
Not the guy you replied to but I've been playing with augur parries while farming watcher boss. How do you get a visceral when the recovery frames take so long? Gotta be up in da face? How is it for viscerals in pvp?
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>>146188204
t-thanks

>>146188252
Not much of an expert myself, as I never parry in PvP. In PvE, quickstep in
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>>146188252
Augur is better for backstabs than parries (since it fires instantly). You have to be at close range to get a visceral in, which makes parries riskier than just using a gun.
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Can I do a visceral attack when two handing a weapon? For example, on a boss who I stagger?
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>>146188252
Dash towards them in pvp and pve
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>>146188252
Circle
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>>146188204
Weee, thanks man.
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>>146188570
You can.
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>>146188616
Neat
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Best handgun for Bloodtinge? The pretty looking one seems to be a pea shooter at 8+ and decent gems
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>>146188670
No problem my man
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>>146189342
Evelyn
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>>146189342
Repeating Pistol, Evelyn, Church Cannon
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>>146189595
That's the aforementioned pretty looking one and it's sucking eggs.
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>>146188636
>>146188616
>>146188491
Backstabs too?! Damn im glad i got 18 arc on str.

I know dashing is is but it still seems to take too long, i might be too far away i guewas.
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>>146189795
whats you're BLT at?
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If anybody wants to help with Amelia I'll be ringing at fog.
Pass:Panzer
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>>146190081
Already rung
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>>146190201
Thanks
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>>146190373
Going through Hemwick?
Since you didn't approach the skull imediately...
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>>146190460
I went through there already, I'm just trying to help other people if I can get summoned.
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>>146190050
A solid 50 bb
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Someone want to help me out at Maria? The co-op's pretty dead there right now.
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>>146191492
On my way:)
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>>146191450
Gems?
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>>146191492
Level 70 btw.
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>>146191492
is it bbg? The password?
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>>146189342
It's never gonna do loads of damage with basic shots.

If you really want it to shine, use the Reiterpallasch in the right hand so you can parry without losing your BMA, then use the Evelyn + BMA instead of doing a visceral. Easy 1500-2000 damage.
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>>146191765
yeah set the password to bbg
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>>146191870
Ringin senpai
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>>146191992
>>146191992
Messed up a bit and died but still got the kill. Thanks senpai!
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Anon, did that count? Because I'm ringing
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I seriously cannot be bothered to get 27.2% gems in arcane, fire, and bolt. 95% of gem drops are tempering, and of the remaining 5%, 90% of those are shit. At this point I'm probably just going to farm a Bone Ash Hunter or Beast Possessed Soul enemy and take the decreased damage.
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>>146192439
Meanwhile I'm swimming in perfect elemental gems when I just want some 27.2 Temperings...
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Bloodletting Beast anyone?
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>>146192578
No thanks
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>>146192371
It did count! Cheers!
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>>146191450
Equip Bone Marrow Ash to do get the Damage output (of the regular hand guns) that only the Evelyn can give.

the Canons will always do more damage thou but they use so many QSBs its only worth using them as last resorts.
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>>146192520
God I wish we could trade. That would make both of our lives so much easier.
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>>146192439
I said fuck it on my current bloodtinge guess I'll stay with Hamlet gems.
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>>146192578
Regular or headless
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>>146192626
Well, uh thanks for the reply Anon.

>>146192752
He had a head last time I check
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>>146192871
Layer 4, Lower Ptumeru?
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>>146192979
Yes and bbg as always.
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Is there a way to dupe blood echoes after the latest patch?
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>>146193046
I'm coming HOLD ON
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just beat bloodborne for the first time using a pure skill build, level 73. Stats are 35/20/16/36/6/10. I wanted to make a new character for blood tinge and arcane things, and I was wondering if anyone has any guides/suggestions? Can you do a blood tinge/arcane build or is the only viable blood tinge build blood tinge/skill? Weapon/magic item recommendations? Builds? I have this arcane guide image saved and it's what I was planning on going off of for arcane, no idea for blood tinge though.
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Anyone know if the Tonitrus tricked form adds a flat amount of Bolt damage or if it augments the Bolt damage you already have like the Wheel does?
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>>146193541
The buff has its own hidden scaling that is applied on top of the weapon's original bolt scaling, it's not the number you see in the menu.
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>>146193359
Pure BLT is fine. You can use the tricked Chikage, tricked Bloodletter, and tricked Bowblade to great effect. Be aware that in making a pure BLT build, early game will be rough.

I don't know about a BLT/ARC build, but I suspect it would be absolute ass.

Pure ARC is also good, although you have a couple options when it comes to ARC. Either you get the base stats for the weapon you want to use +50 ARC, 25 STR +50 ARC for Wheel, HMS, and Tonitrus as well as everything else, or stick with base stats and 70 ARC which lets you use much more powerful Hunter Tools as well as the Kos Parasite and base level weapons like the Saw Spear and Threaded Cane. My personal ARC build uses a variety of weapons and has the stats 50/18/25/12/5/50.
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Ty guys

The stealth entry work perfectly, tell your friends about it.
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>>146193950
He never saw pizza time coming
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>>146193881
So would using Cold gems or 27.2% Bolt gems be worth it, or should I just stick with Nourishing gems like I've been doing?
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>>146194093
Bolt is better than nourishing if you're on a 50 arc build.
You should aim to make your buff as strong as possible, the damage you get from the weapon itself isn't worth much.
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>>146194274
I'm running 25 STR and 50 ARC.
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>>146194450
Go bolt
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Why is kirkhammer so much better than every other str weapon?
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>>146195278
Because it's not
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>>146193945
By much more powerful hunter tools do you mean they'd deal more damage? Or are there tools that literally require 70 arc
And so if I went the 70 arc build I'd be using stuff like the saw spear mostly? Would I be doing any endurance or vit?
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>>146195278
Great range, speed, has a small AoE on most of its attacks, has the ability to block attacks, and has several really good baits (Charge R2 follow, transforming follow up, neutral transforming follow up, ext...)
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>>146195748
They'd do more damage. Hunter Tools scale differently than weapons, and even until 99 ARC they continue to scale well. The Parasite functions in a similar, though lesser, way.

If you went 70 ARC your weapons are going to be the Saw Spear, Threaded Cane, Hunter Axe, and of course the Kos Parasite.

As far as stat allocation goes, you could go 50/16/10/9/5/70 on a Cruel Fate character, which would put you at 110. If you wanted to go up to 117 (which is the max you can go while still being able to invade SL 98 characters), you could pump more into END if you so desire.
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>>146196064
>Great speed
This is bait.
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>>146196586
>I can't kirk properly therefore it is slow
:^)

Here is a hint: dont spam r1
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Man I gotta say after nearly 3.5k hours i'm still not tired of BB. I have like 5k in DeS but I noticed I have no where near that in the DaS games.
>1.5 for DaS1
>1k for DaS2
>900 for DaS3
Why does the Dark souls series seem so plain in comparison to DeS/BB?
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Have to do Loran all over because I erased it and forgot to pick up the little dead babies for the cursed Chalice.


That's enough Bloodborne for the day no thanks
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>>146186246
You do realize I am not the only one that considers him the hardest, right?
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>>146196963
Damn. I put 1.6k into DaS1, 1400 of which was invasions and duels, and ~700 into DeS because I think it has the second best PvE in the whole series, and I only recently bought BB but I have over 250 hours into it so far and love it. I do think that DeS and BB are the best the Souls series has to offer though.
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>>146196586
It's not, the kirkhammer has great speed for a weapon of it's weight class, but you probably think anything that isn't BoM r1 spam is slow.
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>>146197298
I regularly use the Wheel, albeit tricked, and I don't feel like it's that slow. Every time I've tried to use the Kirkhammer on my STR build I've always felt it's too clunky, not to mention ugly because of that giant hammerhead on your back, so I always stop using it.
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>>146197232
Like 3k of my BB hours are PvP like everything else in the souls series I play the games mainly for PvP after a certain point.
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>>146197474
Have you tried using the tricked for so it's not on your back.

Also I never really saw a significant speed difference between the wheel and the Kirk, they're both about the same in that regard through the wheel lacks some of the range and the AoE effect (which it makes up for with the potentially scary damage if built right)
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There's a fuck-off huge guy with a hammer in Ihyll. Should I be worried?
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>>146198584
Is he naked? If yes, you need to be extremely worried.
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>>146198917
He was naked.

That wasn't so bad, Augur's knockdown is just broken.
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>>146197903
Yea it's the tricked Kirkhammer I'm talking about. The untricked Kirkhammer is just a slower untricked LHB. I just don't understand how people can use the tricked Kirkhammer without feeling like they're moving through molasses.
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To my understanding, the Gatling Gun has shite scaling. Is there any particular skill spread I need to make use of it, or can my 30 STR guy use it just fine, so long as it's upgraded?
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Thoughts?
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>>146197232
I have almost 3k hours in DaS1. All but like 100 hours or so was dedicated to PvP. PvP is what brings people back because it is the only things that going to be different every time.
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fuuuuuck

Is Headless Bloodletting Beast hard at all? I just got fucking demolished.
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>>146200117
No, Just fight without locking on, and stay just outside his leg.
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>>146200117
He's cake once you realize he's deathly terrified of you attacking his legs.
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>>146199795
I'd say, great ones.
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>>146200495
>>146201041

His slam attacks are fucking bullshit.

Had him down to 5%, when the "shockwave" from one of those fucking decks me.

Anyone wanna assist? Pass is 'hellish'
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>>146199795
The cosmos of course
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>>146201837
The slams don't really have shockwaves; his entire arms just have hurt boxes, even his elbows. Basically, you have to delay your roll until he starts the down swing. Otherwise, he will track you, and you will get hit.
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>>146202086
Eugh, that's just nasty. Will try to keep that in mind...

Had two blood vials still; if I'd just disengaged and healed, I'd have had him. Motherfucker.
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>>146193359
>>146193945
Follow up to this. Does anybody have any pros/cons to pure blood tinge vs skill/tinge, and level orders/what I should be rushing?
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>>146202086
Nawp, cannot dodge those fucking slams.
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>>146202341
Greed is an insidious killer
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>>146202585
Look at the video in: >>146200495

Stay just outside the right leg without locking. Watch the left leg for a clue on when to roll. When his foot reaches it's apex, that's about when you want to roll.
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>>146202573
>pure blood tinge
Unzip your Hanzo steel (folded one MILLION times) for massive damage
BMA Evelyn

>skill/tinge
Can actually use more than two weapons
Won't do maximum damage with anything

Just do pure Blt or pure Skl.
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>>146203113
I respect that you're good at killing this bugger, but I just tried to do the same thing and died before I could even hit the guy.
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>>146203475
Brah, he mauled my ass repeatedly. I am only good at beating him because I kept practicing. You can do it too. I believe in you.
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>>146203673
blaaaggghhh

Just need to replicate what I did the second time.
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>>146203673
Fuck, thanks Luci. Only used six blood vials that time and wiped the floor with him.
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>>146204350
Happy to help, and Congrats.
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>>146204784
Aaaaaaand now I need fucking Red Jelly and Bastards of Loran to make an FRC Chalice.
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>>146204861
You should be able to buy them for insight by now.
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>>146204945
Red Jelly, yes. Bastards of Loran, no. Should I just re-make Ailing Loran and run through it to get those?
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>>146205058
You can by Bastards in NG+ iirc.
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save me jesus
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>>146205134
Only once I've made an FRC dungeon, but yeah.

Ah, well, I'll just redo Ailing Loran.
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>>146199795
Nightmares.
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>>146205138
Worst enemies in the game.
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How do y'all take screenshots in game and post them?
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Do the effects of the runes stack at all?
Like if I equip all three moon runes my echo output will be ridiculously high?
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>If you R1 mash with a bone saw you can stagger the fuck out of kos
Well that was anticlimactic but I got the fucking parasite.
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>>146196963
In the 15 months since Bloodborne came out, you've spend ALMOST FIVE ENTIRE MONTHS playing it? That's 8 hours of Bloodborne a day, EVERY FUCKING DAY since it released. Where the fuck do you people find this kind of free time?
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>>146205972
the guy who wrote the paleblood hunt said he had played 3000 hours
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>>146196963
>>146205972

>12 hours of DS3 a day since it came out
>10 if he got the JP version half a month earlier
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>>146205793
Christ I think I just got my answer for this, one sweep through Mensis and I'm up 750000 echoes.
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>>146196963
Please post a screenshot, I don't even have that much in New Vegas and TF2 put together.
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>>146205972
>Not living the neet life.

Not him but I can understand kinda.
Living in a hotel for the past month, three months left.
Super shady area, can only jog on machine inside.
Literally asides four hours of work a day, a lot of jogging, I play FROM games.
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Whats a fun build for a new playthrough?
I used the Ludwig Holy Blade on my first playthrough b/c of dem aesthetics.
Now I'm suffering from lack of damage and un tricked sword syndrome.
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>>146206590
why do you live in a hotel, isn't that expensive?
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>>146206590
I can do it in short bursts (hell I've done nothing but play BB the past 3 or 4 weeks), but to do it for over a year?
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>>146206590
You'd think the dude would at least take a break to jerk off or something.
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>>146206737
Work pays for it.
>450 a night
>Still shit internet.

>>146206743
>>146206874
I'm just saying I understand is all. It is alot for real though.
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>>146206590
I hate being NEET more than anything,
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>>146206995
What do you do?
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>>146207045
Amen
Even if you're financially secure, its not enough.
Not even BB can fill the void of life.

>>146207231
For work or my daily sorta neet life?
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>>146205138
God can't hear you down here
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>>146207508
work
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>>146205578
They look too cool to be the worst.
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Well, I can farm Ritual Blood (5) from Ailing Loran. Where should I get Tomb Mold (5)?
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>>146207686
isz layer 3
refer to the guide
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>>146207686
>farming ritual materials

By the time I ever needed to actively seek out materials that weren't just lying around the previous dungeon, I had already finished all the standard chalices and the materials were available in the shop. (and once NG+ hits the insight shop sells the special mats)
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>>146207623
I am a gm/dm of casual dining restaurants in the southern states.

New location opened so I am here to help it get going.
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>>146208187
Wow. Did you work your way up?
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Is pvp still at level 120?
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can mob watchers drop 27.2s?

This fuck just keeps giving me 25.3 crap, but I can't stand farming the bosses.
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>>146208407
they drop one tier lower than bosses, so the best you'll get is 26.3 and the lowest would be in the 24% area
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>>146208483
Fuck everything.
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>>146208483
Other anon, and these a F/R/C watcher mobs?
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>>146205972
I literally only play Fromsoft games I do go work from like 10 till 4 and then I have a long distance relationship so that also keeps my sleeping pattern a bit messy
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>>146208253
I did. Building your resumè is the key.

I started at age 18 at a pizza restaurant and was able to get great kitchen manager experience from an experienced man.

Worked for two years for the experience, moved on to a bigger franchise. Worked two more years to pad my resumè, moved on to a bigger franchise.

And here we are.
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>>146206468
I'd have to go scouring through my accounts
>US Ver of BB
>EU Ver of BB
>JP Ver of BBToH
Same with all the regions for DeS
And then the hours split cross plat for the DaS series. It would take me a while to compile it all considering I lost my old set of DeS characters due to sony being cunts and locking my original PSN account.
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>>146208160
Not sure what you did differently, but I'm missing Ritual Blood and Tomb Mold to make my first FRC dungeon.

This is hell.
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>>146208918
>It would take me a while to compile it all
You clearly have that sort of time on your hands, so get to it.
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>>146209083
Mate i'm bust spelunking I gotta get those blunt gems for my kirk so I can complain about the speed in the next FC
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>>146208746
>and then I have a long distance relationship
Enjoy getting cucked
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>>146209150
>TFW we met up two months ago she came here and she moves over in like 4 weeks.
Mate when you got a qt/10 JP Canadian life is good
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>>146208370
It is 98 for us, and 120 everywhere else. That's not really an issue though since 98s can still invade 120s too.
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So was it the Kos parasites or the pregnancy that killed kos?

Remember she washed up dead, and there's no suggestions in-game that the hunters encountered her before she washed up dead.
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>>146209319
>Canadian life
How's Trudeau working out for you guys?
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>>146209319
>he actually believes this
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>>146208370
I've been at 120 since launch since I didn't hop on the meme meta in here. But go with whatever you want from 80,98,100,110,120 Don't be a fucking idiot and go to 150 though
>Reddit goes to 150 to inflate defense
>Then runs gemless FC's
They also say gemless means there is more skill involved.
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Witches anyone?
Pass is bbg
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>>146209475
Nah man i'm in the UK where there seems to be a non stop debate about EU Shit. I really hope they push for the immigration rules so that no more mudslimes come knocking.
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>>146209642
>I really hope they push for the immigration rules so that no more mudslimes come knocking.
Good on you m8
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>>146209642
vote leave it's your only hope
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>>146209546
Coming!
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>>146209806
Senpai i've been thinking about it for months
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>>146209510
>>146209326
Thanks, I may just go to 100 and stop then.
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>>146209459
The parasites did it, it's the most logical explanation
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>>146209546
At the stairs?
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>>146209806
Reported
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How do base STR/SKL, pure BLT builds play before getting Chikage / Bloodletter?
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>>146209893
>>146210149
My dad logged on and helped me beat it, sorry. Thanks though
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>>146210424
Tell him to visit /bbg/
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>>146210424
I wish my dad loved me enough to play vidya with me
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>>146210424
I wish my dad was cool and or in my life at all
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Dying to watchers completely kills my desire to keep playing, but the loading screens take so fucking long that the will to ragequit fades before they end.
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I killed 7 lanterns with the Eye rune, not one gem.
I'm gonna play New Vegas or literally anything that is not this
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>>146212125
Are you killing the Lanterns in the Hamlet? They drop tons of gems.
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>>146210850
>>146210868
I was lying. Some random joined me after I gave up on checking to see if BBG was going to join. My dads never said hes loved me my entire life.
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How much vit and end should I have for a 70 ARC build? And should I be pumping those early?
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>>146213261
45-50 vit, 15 end.
End should be the last stats you pump.
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>when they back off to heal every single time you hit them
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Apologies for asking but can anyone give me a good layout for the bowblade? I've been wanting to use it for a while but I don't really know what origin (I assume noble scion) I should start with or how to allocate my points.
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>>146213947
>get stats needed for weapon
>pump scaling stats
>adjust vit/end to taste

Builds are so fucking simple in this game, how is every thread flooded with "idk how to build" posts?
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>>146213849
this is the type of game where you deal 1/3rd of someone's health in a single attack what do you expect
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>>146213947
Noble scion, 25skill 50blt, Lost version
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>>146213849
>not parrying the heal
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>one frc glyph's hblb dropped heavy abyssal with stam down the first time i beat him after horrible layers of hell
>try a different frc glyph that has hblb on 3rd layer as well but easier layers to go through.
>kill him 3 times no abyssals

Will i only get abyssals from asshole frc dungeons or something?
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>>146214401
I try anon. I try.
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14 Ritual blood for a Root Chalice

dis gaem blows
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>>146214518
Buy it
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>>146214518
They're so cheap though.
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>>146214483
try harder than you fool
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>>146193359
gonna try this thx m8
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How good is BLT scaling past 50? Is it even worth it?
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>>146215992
Bad, like everything except ARC tied to Hunter Tools.

No.
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>tfw you just want to cuddle but best husbando runs away and shoots slugs at you
Dakimakura when
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>>146180717
…baboon?
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>>146215992
You won't really need it you'll need a good gem for Evelyn if you want it to do damage.
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>>146205713
Press share button, then press triangle. To get them off your PS4 you can use a USB stick, but it compresses them somewhat. To get them uncompressed, you need a twitter account and some other bullshit. Google it.
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>>146205713
>>146217703

No.

Go to the system settings and you can have it save screenshots as uncompressed PNGs. You can also set it so you just need to tap Share to take a screenshot instead of that retarded menu coming up.
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>>146217632
anything better than a 31.5?
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>>146217816
>Go to the system settings and you can have it save screenshots as uncompressed PNGs

Huh, is that a new feature or am I just retarded? Thanks for the heads up anon.
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i just noticed a note telling the hunter to touch Laurence's skull in the Grand Cathedral, has that always been there or was it patched in?
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lvl 45 LF help on the Shadows, ringing outside at the crossroads with password bbghelp
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>>146218542
I heard about that but never saw it; where the hell is it?
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>>146218562
Give me a few to get on and I'll ring. Crossroads is just after the two pigs right?
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>>146218826
Si.
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>>146218905
Alright, ringing now
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>>146218689
On the right, straight after you open the doors.
it's just a Bloodborne style note basically saying something along the lines of "Hey don't forget to touch the skull you fucking idiot".
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>>146205138
They look so friendly like that, though!
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>>146219239
Oh shit. What's with the super-dull glow it's got? I never would have seen that if nobody told me where it was.
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>>146219229
Thanks for the help my dude
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>>146219649
Nws
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>>146218090
31.5 is the best you'll get for blt gems
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>>146205138
I know that feel.
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>>146219910
>"Heard you were talking shit..."
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>>146219910
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>>146219910
Times like these I don't feel like so much of a pussy for pulling out the beast cutter and doing a couple R2's before opening chalice dungeons doors.
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Ringing at Living Failures fog gate if anyone wants to fight them
level 73
pass: bbg10
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>>146220326
IM COMING
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>>146220326
Sure, why not. Be there right quick.
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>>146220441
>>146220459
Appreciate it
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Just gemmed up a Saif for the first time.

Shit, it's like half Murakumo, half Saw Cleaver.
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>>146220983
I got cucked out.

Fuck you other anon!
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>>146199795
The disc directly below the "moon" sphere looks like it has a lumen flower or something floral on it.
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>invader comes in
>I hit them twice
>they run away and blank out

for what purpose
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>>146221132
Well I got BTFO by Maria if you want to fight her
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>>146221893
I already put in an other disc, I can't get my heart broken again.
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>>146222241
I understand
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>>146180147
It matters if you're invading an area where you killed the boss.

But I mean, 98 players are almost entirely in /bbg/, the only time you're gonna run into them in large enough numbers to matter is FC night. So, w/e.
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>>146221739
It's not just invaders, as a cooperator I noticed that hosts are very trigger happy too these days.
I often hit a boss until he has 10% health and then the host kicks me out.
I wonder if it's a new Reddit meme or something like that.
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>>146222487
Seriously, you'll get constant action in the hotspots all the way up to level 200.
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>>146222487
If you're at least at 117 you'll be fine. Most of my characters are at 98 but arcane is a bitch.
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>>146222570
reddit's usually all over the candy-ass JOLLY COOPERATION memes though so I can't picture them blanking summons out of boss fights...
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>>146222487
Invade at Mergo's middle. Constant invasions. You can invade down to level 80 and up through level 120.
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>>146221893
I'll lend a hand, if you'd like.
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>>146222621
I got constant invasions on my BL 300 a few months ago at Nightmare Frontier. And not just against PvE shitters, but against people who were actually there for 1v1.

That was before DkS3 came out, but still. Vast majority of players don't care about PvP meta, or don't know about PvP meta. The people who go to 4chan or gameFAQs or reddit is a really small slice of the overall population of the game.
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>>146222962
thanks, ringing at the gate now
pass is bbg10
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>>146222996
>43 posters

Seriously the amount of people pedaling the 98 meta is less significant than which ending the player picks in DS1.
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>>146222962
thanks again, that move with the saw was great
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Why is Exit Game never restricted like in the other games? Do they want hosts to disconnect because they're scared of invaders? You can literally just save and quit in the middle of an invasion.
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>>146223589
I guess the pizza was a little too hot for her taste.
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This smug fuck motherer
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>>146223789
damn right
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the very next cocking room
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>>146220068
>>
>saif's "trick" is the shittiest, lamest of all weapons
> "it's got a second blade on teh inside hrrdurr"
>literally one move in its entire moveset uses that blade.
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>>146224210
>>146224495
Holy crap, I never fought these assholes, Queen Killer and some Cainhurstcunt F/R/C? Could you post a glyph ?
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>>146225150
His filename has the glyph in it.
afesqe35
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>>146225332
>>146225150
It's not pretty
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>want to leave Frontier
>go to lamp
>Return to Dream
>wait for load
>I'm in invader
>wtf
>finish invasion
>spawn at Frontier Lamp
>immediately invaded
>didn't even have time to touch the lamp
>i don't have time for this shit
>wait for them to bow
>augur backstab

Am I a bad person?
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>>146225738
More less than more.
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>>146225626
Use your gun
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you don't have to bloodbullet in mensis my dyde
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>>146226886
I'm sorry, it's my first bloodtinge build I feel like being a jerk
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>>146226262
this is the worst layer in the history of everything
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>>146227075
oh sweet kosm now what?

I already placed the chalice for this for future spelunking. I better go butter up my anus.
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>>146226994
I was communing with gregor
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>>146227153
the boss is nothing special but everything else is satan
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>shoot whip hunter with monocular from next to church dude in research hall
>whip hunter turns to me, runs forward, and off the ledge to his death

11/10 AI gg from no re
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>Dying with the host

Oh man, why did I put PvP off for three builds. Why didn't you tell me about the FUN?
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>>146227369
Oh, I can't wait... hee hee...
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>>146225626
>Spiders
>Labyrinth Ritekeeper
>Madman
>All in one room
Even if that casket at the end there had guidance 3, I'd still say fuck off Or at least suicide run it
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Wanna do a run through with some sort of fun and maybe FUN* build... any suggestions?

No meta autism pls.
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>>146227656
It had a Great One's Wisdom
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>>146227751
Steak Dinner, charge R2 only.
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>>146227656
brb gonna go kill myself then run this dungeon
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>>146227825
W E W. I would have been tempted to neck myself after that
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>want to take a break after 600 hours in ds3 and play in bb
>remember about ps+ that ran out months ago
i fucking hate sony and its practices
Can you even get random invasions in BB right now without waiting for an hour?
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>>146228412
As always.
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oh wow look at these pretty flowers I should pick one for doll
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I'm getting 'Bell Silenced' as an invader?
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Going cave exploring, glyph is ba3txtyj
pass will be bbg321 be there or be square
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Look at this bullshit
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I'm going to be making a bunch of these helmets but I can't seem to think of a good price on it. Any ideas /vg/?
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>>146229641
Funny
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>>146229681
What is it made of?
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>>146229862
Polyurethane resin mixed with aluminum.
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Is there a good PVP area in the Old Hunters?
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>>146230117
Fishing Hamlet is pretty good. You can get invasions semi-regularly at both the Hall and the Hunter's Nightmare too.
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>>146229804
I need help

pass is bbg555

send help, send any help
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>>146229915
I'd charge at least $100 personally. The materials are pretty cheap but it's beautiful handcraft, and in short supply.
Not sure who would buy it though, not a lot of people do BB cosplay.

>>146230117
Hunter's Nightmare for maximum activity and Research Hall for maximum fun, especially if you have beast roar.
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>>146230196
Is it close to the action in Mensis or the Frontier?

>>146230201
using SRRC but not getting you ):
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>>146230470
i just died, pls
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Gonna take off these Doll clothes and make friends with that Undead Giant this time.
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>>146170119
Holy shit, it's Nigel Thornberry.
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>>146231096
>it was 1 yellow backbone

kill me, ringing
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>>146227240
Is that who u r ?
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>>146231323
why would I commune with myself
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>Can't beat Kos
>Can't beat Laurence
>Can't beat Ebrietas
>Don't want to deal with Mergo until I kill the others
At least I could kill the Brain of Mensis.
Only cost me 20 vials and all my Sedatives. Fucking Winter Lanterns.
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Anyone know if DaS3 has a PVP SL meta yet?

I tried asking /dsg/, but they're /dsg/, no real help there.
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>>146220226
I locked myself in a prison cell and beat a Hunter to death through it, I have no shame.
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Boo
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>>146232034
As it was, so it is.
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>>146231551
I'm communing with myself right now.
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We got him Max, couldn't have done it without you

>mfw no 4th layer

>>146232034
Yeah the meta is called going back to bloodborne because DaS3 has no staying power.

Your best bet is to stay around 80, low enough to avoid the 120/125 shitters, it's what I did.
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>>146233454
I just want to give the game one last shot, it feels shitty spending $80 (exchange rate) on a game I only spent maybe 60 hours playing.
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>>146229681
I don't know what the cost of making it is or the time put in to make it, but I'd take the material cost and add an hourly wage to it based on how long it takes. You know the numbers from there
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Found this lil guy in a chalice dungeon holding a lantern that doesn't do anything

Could someone please enlighten me?
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>>146233906
hes a little guy in a chalice dungeon holding a lantern. thats it

what do you think a lantern does?
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>>146229681
>thinking people would actually pay for vileblood attire when the Golden Ardeo is literally Golden and an Ardeo.
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>>146234349
Light up or teleport to hunter's dream mainly

I've never seen messengers who aren't doing anything like that
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Fun, wild, spooky glyphs?

I'm bored
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>>146234801
The lantern radiates light when you walk near it.
It's here to tell you if you've already visited the room near it or not.
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Anyone have a current glyph for the ring?
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Why is this the only game in the series that I enjoy?
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>>146237340
because ur gay
bloodborne is for fags lol
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>>146237340
It has very different themes, setting and atmosphere, and it's the best in the series in terms of overall quality.
Maybe you don't enjoy medieval stuff, or maybe your standards are too high.
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>>146237340
>>146237490

He's got a point there anon.

Speaking of which: why can't I get this faggot-ass tranny character to look adorable? Stupid character creator.
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>>146237562
Mine looks like a beautiful angel.
Try harder and you'll succeed.
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>>146237542
>Maybe you don't enjoy medieval stuff

Definitely a big part of it. I much prefer the setting but I thought that wouldn't be such a big deal. Just can't get into the other games.
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>>146237673
Anon, I've been trying since Demon's Souls. It's all luck; effort won't make it look like a person, much less a pretty one.
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I just beat Orphan of Kosm on my very first try and I feel pretty good about myself

>tfw actually landing a fully charged Stake Driver R2 on him
>tfw it was NG
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>>146237823
How can girls even hope to compete?
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>>146238186
He looks like someone took a hammer to his face, anon. What the fuck did you do to him? I'm calling the cops for battery and assault.
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>>146237823
You just gotta put in the work anon, look how chic my hunter is.
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>>146238340
Call them, they can't unfuck him
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>>146238186
I already spend like 2.5 hours in the creator this sitting so I guess I'm settling with this.

ps you look like you took a punch to the jaw m8 you okay?
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>>146238521
anon you selected the wrong gender not sure if you're aware.
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>>146238340
DELETE THIS
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>>146238858
fuck gotta start all over now

thanks for the heads up
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>>146239017
in future you can tell by the mammary glands just a tip
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>>146239224
Turn that frown upside down
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>>146239559
o-okay
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I was wondering why Blade of Mercy and Burial Blade do shit damage with 50 skill then I see they scale with arcane. At 50 arcane are they worth using or should I not waste my time. I've never put a single point into arcane because I've never seen a reason to. Any other weapons worth it?

What kind of build would Holy Moonlight Sword require? Or the Wheel? Those are both STR and ARC right? Which is the priority?
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>>146240480
They suck butt. Str/arc is the most OP in the game with HMGS it's just wild
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>>146240480
The arcane scaling on BoM and Burial is abysmal and not worth the investment in arc, same for Amy arm
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>>146240961
Amy arm has arc scaling? 0_0
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>>146240848
>>146240961
Well I wanted to use them for PvE but whats the point when the Cleaver has higher, and more reliable damage?

Still might give STR/ARC a shot though.

Been trying a bunch of different weapons, my chalice character has 50 in everything except Arcane. I was hyped for the Bowblade, but again performs worse than the Cleaver and has a worse moveset, and the Bow damage isn't even that good.

Every "souls" game I just end up using what is on the cover, because its easier and I am lazy.
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>>146240480
>BoM and BB do shit damage with 50 skl
heh, if you say so

To answer your questions though, the arc scaling on BoM and BB exist so they can't be buffed. As for wheel/hms, str buffs the untricked form, arc buffs the tricked form (With hms though, arc only boosts the moonbeams from the tricked form). Priority is up to you.
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>>146241314
>With hms though, arc only boosts the moonbeams from the tricked form
That's false though, all attacks benefit from arc damage, even untricked
It just gets a higher arc multiplier in tricked mode, most noticibly on the the R2's
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>>146241064
For some reason yes, it really needed those arcane explosions Amygdala gets when it dual wields it OWN AMYGDALAN ARMS in it's 3rd phase, to justify it.
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>>146241584
Ah, didn't realise arc also impacts its regular attacks
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>>146241195
That's really all I do is PvE and is what I was talking about. The thrust, the Rtwo attack on Moonlight Greatsword is obscene most everything is weak to trust most everything is staggered by it and you can get three of those attacks in at base End


If you want easy baby this is it, sexy moveset and sexy sword too.
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>push Djura off cliff
>immediately realized I should've named my fsteak character Chie

fuq
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>>146242360
>fsteak
which weapon is that
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Can you not co op on the first Isz dungeon? Which dungeons can you do this on? It's not really clear. I ring my resonant bell and nothing happens.
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>>146244062
I've been summoned there a fair number of times, probably nobody else is ringing
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THAT CHEESE STRAT FOR FIGHTING AMYGDALA ISN'T WORKING FOR ME. I GET HIT WHENEVER I STAND BY THE TAIL.

I hate this fight so much. I can't even get the cheese right.
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>full moon tonight

wew lads, be careful
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>>146244285
Wait a fucking second and then roll. If you don't time the roll you will die.
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>>146244352
There's a different Moon where I am.
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>>146244429
That's not how it works Anon.
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>>146244571
Unless he's got the Blood Moon descending upon him...

RIP Anon
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>>146244380
That's what I do. I've been at this guy for HOURS and he hits me no matter what my timing is. Even before his jumps his attacks go around his body and hit me when I'm standing by the tail.
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>>146244352
It's always cloudy here whenever shit's happening in the sky I fucking swear. Even missed that blood moon a few months ago cause lol cloud cover rolling in at the last minute.
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>>146242360
>naming a character who will only use their big right hand after a character who only uses her feet
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>>146244186
There's nobody so far. I saw ghosts when i first came here, but in the layer with Ebrietas there's no action. Strange to me as Ebrietas is a harder boss than anything so far in the dungeon.
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>>146244352
>>146245509
>tfw thousands of dollars in camera/camera equipment
>all I've taken photos of in the last month is the Moon

At least I have my videogames
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HOLY FUCK I BEAT AMYGDALA

FUCK YES

NO MORE CURSES
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>>146246095
Plenty more curses.
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>>146246095
You say that now but before you know it, you'll be running frc's finding new bullshit in the game that you never thought was possible.
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>>146246283
>crocomires as a standard enemy
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>>146246202
>>146246283
I am NOT putting curse on the next chalices. Fuck this half-health bullshit.
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>>146246470
You'll get much better loot if you do.
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>>146246531
I'll also get stuck and pissed off for several days in a row. I'd rather keep my sanity.
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>>146246470
The very best gems come from chalices with all the rites used. Chalices in the OP too tend to be the easier ones for farming those gems as well. Shit like watchers farming is easy.
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Would you say that Orphan of Kos the best boss in Bloodborne, or the best boss in the entire series?
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>>146247475
He screes too much, muted my volume for NG+ and beyond encounters.
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>>146247629
You heartless monster.
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>>146247475
Not really. I have a harder time with ludwig than him.
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>>146247678
Not that anon but I muted the entire from Amelia onwards. The constant screeches was too much for me

I regret nothing.
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>>146247776
harder != better

defiled amy is hard too, but that bitch certainly isn't in the running
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>>146247927
Eh. Like he's not bad but I just think ludwig is better. The fact that ludwig can't really be parried makes it more interesting.
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>>146244285
You're not supposed to stand by his tail, you have to be right in front of his crotch.
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>>146247475
Nah m8, Ludwig takes the crown in that regard. I mean that mid fight cutscene where he regains just enough of his humanity to fight you like a knight, the music that sinks up perfectly with it, the OST holy shit the OST.

I was genuinely trembling after I killed him, the fight was just so fucking good.
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>>146248771
>sinks up

heh
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>>146238343
I'm gonna need sliders on that, anon.
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>>146248895
Sorry anon, it's late
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Can anyone give me tips on timing parries on Orphan of Kos? I always fuck it up, his attacks change momentum so weirdly.
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Is the evelyn worth upgrading? I'd have to farm a few chunks to get it to where my pistol is.
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>>146249885
If you're a BT build, yes
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>>146250037
Meh. I threw a few points into here and there (I can wield the evelyn) but I didn't care much about it.
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>>146249885
Absolutely.
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>>146250256
A full upgraded Evelyn won't out damage a fully upgraded hunters pistol until about 22bt and at that level the difference will be very minor, you won't see a big damage difference until you hit the 40/50bt milestone
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I really liked its move set, but I am not sure how I am supposed to distribute my stats for the Chikage.

Do I go Skill/Bloodtinge or just Bloodtinge? I am just wondering so I don't end up wasting levels.
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>>146250786
Plain mode is all skill scaling, blood mode is all bloodtinge scaling.
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Why do I see so few Reiters in PvP these days? Once upon a time people praised the fuck out of it but it seems like now people have just forgotten about it.
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>>146250873
Damn. So I am guessing I should pick one to main and dabble a bit into the other
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>>146250786
If you're aiming for a pure BLT build, you'll only be able to use the tricked form effectively. If you go BLT primary SKL secondary (like 25 SKL 50 BLT), then the tricked form will still be effective, and the untricked form will simply be less useless. I recommend sticking to either pure BLT or pure SKL, but if you're looking to use the Chikage exclusively you may find benefit in being able to use both forms.
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>tfw you get Paarl into a full-on STEAK DINNER ai-loop
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>>146250972
Probably because there's things that do the job better. It is a great weapon in the right hands but the DLC brought a bunch of other weapons in. Some of its moves also miss the target when locked on occasionally I've noticed.
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>>146251682
It needs that DS3 Estoc tracking.
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>>146252293
Man, fuck DS3. I've never played a DS game that had so many weapons and Zero variation.
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>>146252715
There is pretty much nothing goof about builds in DaS3. The actually gameplay is alright, but gear and stats and whatnot? Fucked beyond repair.

The stats are bloated, vit is a vanity stat, all types of ranged builds are ass, the weapon variety is abysmal considering every weapon has the same moveset as every other weapon in it's class, the fashion is awful especially on female characters, poise is non existent. It's actually incredible how much they fucked up when it comes to building your character.
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>>146253572
Shit mang, they should have just remastered DaS1, hell the whole plot of the game is pretty much just "hey guys, remember when we made DaS1?" anyway.
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>>146246095
anon once you catch the splunking bug all you'll crave for is curses

CURSES
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how the fuck do i kill the watchdog of the old lords in the first chalice dungeon
i'm a level 21 arc build so i had to unequip my waning fire ruin
pro tips and tricks to put down a dog? it destroyed me even when i summoned Olek
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>>146254719
FRC chalices are just so wonderfully old school dungeon crawling, the timeless formula of "go into big dungeon, fight enemies and minibosses, and git gud loot." Haven't felt this way since Diablo 2.

Also there's the cool shit you can find like that one completely empty chalice with no bosses that ended in a bottomless pit, or the chalice with a wandering watchdog.
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>>146254838
bait attacks by standing at medium range and hit him in his recovery time
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>>146254838
Boop his nose
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>>146255015
>that one completely empty chalice with no bosses that ended in a bottomless pit

wouldn't have the glyph for that one would you? I splunk primarily to discover weird shit
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>>146254838
Set a pass?
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>>146255909
b7i4bxfp
There's a few mobs in it but that's about it, no bosses or anything
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>>146254838
If you break his face armour by hitting it enough, subsequent hits on his face will do ~300% damage. Breaking armour on all other limbs will only result in an increase of damage by about 50%. Although breaking the armour on the legs is quicker, the damage is significantly less and draws out the fight longer than it has to be. I don't know what weapon you're using, but I recommend using one that has an adequate vertical arc one of its moves to hit the head after it attacks.
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>>146256586
>there's no lamp

this is spooky
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well that was weird.

makes me think that there might other weird shit unique some of the lesser tread root dungeons, like hintertomb and the earlier Pthumeru dungeons.
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>>146257668
i was there as well just now, and it seems like you can ring the Beckoning Bell there as well.
Despite the circumstances
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>>146257668
Make them and find out, the nice thing about making lower root dungeons is how little materials they cost.
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>>146258364
maybe, I'll have to try it on a lower leveled build, it wouldn't be engaging on a fully gemed out 98 char
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>>146254838
Hit his nose, back away, rinse an repeat

you can also summon someone from but you'll be casual
>>
So will I ever actually be invaded? (Level like 93+ or something) I enjoyed it in Dark Souls, so I want to see what it's like here. But no matter how long I leave the bell ringer alive, I don't ever seem to get anyone is there something special I have to do?
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>>146260370

I don't think I've ever been invaded either

Seen lots of co op though
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>>146262174
Yeah I've played this entire game through with a friend, but I'm kind of sad with no invasions.
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>>146260370
I got invaded once, but it didn't really last all that long. Guy who invaded me didn't seem very on the ball.
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>>146262383
Are you sure it wasn't just a NPC hunter? I killed a few of those in the story that were pretty easy.
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>>146262505

You can tell they're NPC hunters because they have boatloads of health
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>>146262505
I remember the first time I went to the Nightmare Frontier I had that happen. Thought I had two dudes invading me. I'd just seen a screen name pop up and was like "waaaaaaaat". But no, this was a real person. Kept trying to R2 me with the starting axe.
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>>146262505
Wait can Npc hunters invade? Normally only Brader can invade and the Npc hunters are already in your world iirc.
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>>146262572
Wait do you not get a notification of like "dicklord mcgee has entered your world"

>>146262646
Wait, the nightmare guys aren't NPCs? I had two hit me up too, one with the hunter axe the other the cane I think it was.

>>146263137
I thought everyone I've seen sofar has been an NPC hunter.
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>>146264236
Those nightmare lads are already in the nightmare and don't invade. Those Yahahar hunters are already there and don't invade. Djuras friends is already there and doesn't invade. Iirc there are no 'invasions' like there are in Souls, all the npc hunters are already in your world with Brador being the only one that invades you ( but even that won't give the 'invaded' massage)
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>there's some other general also using the /bbg/ shorthand
who let this happen?
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>>146264973
It appeared just yesterday
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Ahh...
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>>146269404
gozm
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>>146269609
or som sai gos :DDD
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>>146260370
Just hang out in a PvP hot spot, like the nightmares. I think people gave up invading else where for the most part.
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>>146257668
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnxcwaWz50o
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>>146263137
There are few who will invade you
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Did anyone have sliders for this abomination?
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I did it Reddit... At last... I have become the Bloodborne...
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>>146274141
Fuck off.
>>>/v/
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If i want the Burial Blade in NG, can i just die at Moon Presence and respawn and then kill it later when i want to?
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>>146274302
Yes. You can even just bold hunter mark out
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Can't believe how good I've gotten at fighting Amygdala, it's barely a challenge anymore
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>>146274686
>You can even just bold hunter mark out

nice

thanks
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>>146274302
Yes. You want an uncanny one from the chalices though.
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>>146274718
>Hotdog is no challenge anymore
>Amy is no challenge anymore
>Ludwig is no challenge anymore
>Orphan is no challenge anymore
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>>146274916
Time to go FCR
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>>146274916
Amygdala is super easy to bait into exposing itself tho
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>>146274965
Yea but FRC usually feel cheap if they have rooms with 3 witches or something like that, not hard.
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So lads, what would be a solid Str/Arc setup for the wheel and possibly HMLS. Finally feel like staring fresh after my quality build guy let me try literally everything
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>try to turn off PS4 after an 8 hour spelunking session because I have work in 5 hours
>PS4 keeps turning itself back on for no apparent reason, light from the console keeping me awake
FUGGIN EPIC SONI XPPPP POWER @ THE PLAYERS
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>roll over one of those teleport traps in isz, causing it to activate
>don't get teleported
I was sweating hard holy shit
>>
I feel like pacing in boss fights is super off, it's either "lol this boss is easy" or just straight up no chill at all ever fuck you no breathing.
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>>146277258
Some teleporters are okay. Others are plain nasty
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>>146275401
Just go 50 vit, 25 str, whatever the base skl for HMS is, and 50 arc, then dump whatever's left into end. EZPZ
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>>146277536
Pretty much. On top of that, some builds completely change strategy depending on the boss.
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I'll be spelunking through Isz, Loran, Defiled and is likely gonna have my ass handed to me on the way.
If anyone is interested to join me.

Pass: bbg
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What
the
fuck
FRC isz amygdala just dropped a waning nourishing abyssal
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>>146279403
Lucky offshape drop. Don't get used to it.
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>>146279454
>lucky
it's literally the same gem as the one I have on my weapon with increase stam cost 3.2% instead of 3.3
Wish it had been radial
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>>146279542
>3.2 instead of 3.3
A plus is a plus I guess, even if its invisible
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>>146279628
not when I need the triangular
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>>146279681
I guess its back to the rng savescumming then
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>>146280561
yep, farming until I get increased stam cost abyssal
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Which Root Chalice is the easiest to unlock the extra rites with?
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>>146280730
isz
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Just found out that when amygdala starts the 2nd phase, when it crosses all arms before roaring, if you attack at the right time you can hit all arms simultaneously for high damage
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Can i get some help with Isz Ebbi?

Pass: bbg
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>>146282514
plz...?
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>>146282818
just a moment pham i was farming
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>>146282818
u ringing right?
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>>146282514
Goddamnit!
What is her regular arm swings classified as?
Blunt?
Normal?
Cause this blunt focused attire doesnt change much.
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>>146283610
Normal
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ebri is a handful, really
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>>146282978
>>146283216
thanks man!
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dammit l always come late to coops

how can l make it so this 4chan makes a sound each time a new comment shows up? l have only found so when someone quotes me but not when a new comment appears in general
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>>146284285
Same person who was asking for co-op.
You can join me though Loran
I'm gonna re-visiting it for some extra Bastards anyway.
And BsB is always a bit tense.

Pass: bbg
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>>146284676
rip, wifi from ps4 is not working for some reason
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>>146285068
i had to download an update today
could it be that?
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>>146285068
>>146285312

i have 1216 and wifi is utter shit i have to use cable

not sure if its just this model, but every other device uses the wifi perfectly in the house except the ps4
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>>146284676
l just restarted the router and it seems to work now, l'll be ringing at SRRC
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>>146284676
ringing now
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Not sure if you're not ringing or it plainly doesn't work for some reason. Either way l'm not getting summoned so lm gonna stop ringing
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>>146285927
aw
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Do +blunt% gems boost the damage on the tricked Bloodletter?
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>>146287060
I'm not sure about it, but I think the tricked Bloodletter does exclusively blood damage, whereas the normal version counts as blunt.
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>listening to Laurence's theme
Was this guy genuinely evil or he wanted to actually help people by creating the Church?
His theme is just too sad.
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>>146287060
no

>>146287270
He wanted to use the Old Blood to cure illness and ascend the human race. He was just too dense to accept that his methods were going to have repercussions, despite WIllem's warnings.
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>>146287270
>Was this guy genuinely evil
What makes you think that?
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>>146287546
The fact how much fucked up shit Church did to achieve the breakthroughs in their experiments?
Hell look at research hall, there's enough evidence of their wrongdoings there to seriously question their morality.
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>>146287880
But everything he did had a purpose, and it was done in good faith. It's not just because "I'm evil and I want to fuck up things".
He also regrets his mistakes.
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>>146287880
What about that guy that lobotomized people by the hundreds because he thought he was helping them? Was he evil?
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HLMS makes amygdala so easy it's not even funny
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>>146288736
Yea the fully charged tricked R2 decimates Amygdala's head, especially with high ARC.
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I'm going to sound completely retarded but what do people mean when they say set up a pass to join a game? I thought the best option was to just ring the beckoning bell and pray, is there a way to guarantee you play with someone?
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>>146289452

holy fuck are you retarded?
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>>146287994
>>146288063
What about that guy who eradicated all those pesky Jews because he thought they were the root of society's problems? Was he evil?
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>>146289551
The opposite.
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>>146288736
>hit head triggering vulnerable state
>hit the head with a charged R2 just as it comes down
>visceral immediately after
>4.4k dmg
this with a 25/25/25
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>>146289452
Go into network options
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Mfw I learn that with Augur I can infinitely chainstab Maneater Boar till I run out of bullets

Now an already trivial boss is even more trivial
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>>146287270
There's evidence suggesting that the Healing Church (as a body known to the public for blood healing) was either set up not long after his death or he died not long after it was set up. Beast's Embrace specified it was found through experimentation and (unlike the vast majority of runes) it mentions nothing about Caryll inscribing it, so the conclusion would be Laurence experimented with the blood and they found the rune in him when he died as a beast. This became a foundation of the Healing Church (think Research Hall).

The Healing Church now seems to be primarily about spreading the blood around despite knowing it'll fuck people up, but the fact Laurence was experimenting with it himself suggests that he wasn't aware of how bad it would get when he created the church, or gathered the following who would later create it.

In short, it's likely that Laurence was not evil but evil or not he was a fucking retard.
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>0HKO by those short fireball casting fucks when you try to hit them
Every time
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>>146290939
>2 fireballs a second
>never fucking stop

why from, why?
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>>146290939
>tfw seeing the one with legs for the first time
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Should I go Tempering or Adept for fsteak driver?
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>>146291163
>Hey baby!
>Oh shit her posse
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>>146289486
>>146290687
oh my fucking god
eugenics was always the solution, someone put me down
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>>146291220
Tempering
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This thing just came out of my penis, should I be worried?
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>>146291984
Ur fukt kosm
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>>146291220
tempering
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If anyone wants to update this... We won't argue against that

Also, roll for new build while getting piss drunk through the upcoming weekend
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>>146297657
Rolling again, I'm getting too many tonitrus ft. ludwigs here
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Don't know if anyone is on right now, but I need help with the Orphan. I'll be at the fog, pass is "Gascan"

Thanks in advance.
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>>146297657
rolling
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>>146297987
omw
first letter is capital?
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>>146298312
>beast claw
>bolt paper


aww yeah darkbeast time
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>>146298486
Yeah, capital.
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>>146299252
I'm coming too
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>>146300230
fug sorry, just started

Will wait next time!
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>>146300391
It's alright, just tell me if you guys finish or not.
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Whoooh!
0 Vials, and 2 Bullets left!
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>>146300610
We won, but thanks for the offer~
>>
So what's Henryk doing with the Heir rune?
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>>146302221
farming
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10/10
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Can anyone help me kill fire dog in the first chalice dungeon? Level 21 arcane character and I can't use my fire runes so it's hard as fuck.
password: bbgdog
ringing at the Layer Three lantern
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>>146303279
jesus chrism
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>>146305391
i'll give it like 5-10, any help would be much appreciated
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>>146305391

You're still stuck on him?
>>
So Skill is basically dex? What are good dex/skill weapons and do dex/skill weapons have better parry damage as they do in DkS?
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>>146306803
Nah just got home from classes.
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>>146306883
Backstabs and ripostes now scale with your Skill. The weapon you use is irrelevant, except for the gems it has.
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>>146307085
When you say irrelevant I guess you don't mean how much you upgrade it with shards right?
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>>146305391
Thanks man! Now I can get on with my sweet sweet fire gems.
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>>146291984
expect lasers then next time you pee
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>>146305391
Sit down pupper
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>>146307313
>>146307390

Damn I showed up too late.

Let me know if you wanna co-op any of the Central Pthumeru bosses. I've got a lvl 35ish character I gotta do some co-op with.
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>>146307253
I actually don't remember if upgrading your weapon affects visceral damage. In any case, it's not like other Souls games where a dagger will deal more backstab damage than a straight sword.
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>>146307605
I'm gonna be running it again in 20 minutes or however long it takes to reach the Dog again, still grabbing a second radial fire gem from it if you want to.
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>>146307845
I'll be there, just let me know when.
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>>146307605
Different guy, I'll summon you for mine if you want. Pass is dark. First layer
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Goddammit I love this game so much.
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>>146308005
I'll go ring by the lamp then. we are both talking about depth 2 pthumeru right?
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FUCK!!!!!
THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR SPELUNKING!
30 MILLION ECHOES DOWN THE FUCKING DRAIN!
NEVER MAKE ROOT CHALICES KIDS!
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>>146308386
I'm going for the second floor if you want in on that too.
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>>146308628
By the time you have 30 million echoes on hand though echoes are meaningless. =/
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>>146308386
Waiting on ya again, no worries
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>>146309453
Ringing. I'd forgotten those dudes even had a grab attack.
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>>146309563
I feel you. I haven't seen it in ages. Up for the next one?
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>>146310373
Gonna sit this one out and go run Hemwick so I can put some runes on.
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>>146310434
I could get summoned for that if you want.
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If anyone wants to run fire chihuahua in the first chalice dungeon I'm about to do another run, i'll chill for 5-10 waiting for someone to hop in, password: pupper
ringing at layer three lamp
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>>146310751
oh, still level 21 for reference
>>
Goddamn it the people at mensis right now really suck they don't even have decent gems (120) anyone for dueling or should I just keep going with these shitters?
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>>146310925
>>146310751
.
I'M BAD
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>>146311120
>PvPing in Mensis
Nigga, Nightmare Frontier is the new dedicated PvP zone.
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>>146308628
you weren't gonna do anything productive with em anyways
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>>146311287
The terrain is really suited to duels too!!!
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>>146311287
I took a break for ages for DaS3 cheers for the info i'll pop over to there instead.
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>>146311425
Terrain is shit but it's where the PvP crowd hangs out these days, Mensis is nothing but shitters and PvEfags.
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>>146311281
ty Rosalyn & Visari !
sorry about basically being AFK in that last fight, I didn't have any blood vials left and didn't want to fuck up and get oneshot. gratsi for helping me get my last fire gem, much appreciated
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>>146312376
No problem.
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Ok so i just finished FRC, Isz Root Chalice.
These are the interesting things i found in chests thoughout the dungeon:

(Note: The 'Great Ones Wisdom's' are likely a Ring of Bethrodal or a Rune of any kind exept Guidance Rank 3 since i've (and seemingly everyone else), have yet to find that one)

Layer 1:
Lost Kirkhammer
(Triangle) Cursed Odd Arcane Damp, BG (5)
(Great ones Wisdom)

Layer 2:
Blood Rock
(Triangle) Cursed Odd Arcane Damp, BG (6)
(Triangle) Cursed Odd Arcane Damp, BG (6)

Layer 3:
(Triangle) Cursed Odd Arcane Damp, BG (6)
(Great ones Wisdom)

I found no Ilussiory Walls and Bone Ash and Cainhurst Hunters appear frequently.
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I haven't played this game in months. I stopped around two weeks after the DLC released; anyone care to fill me in on what's happened since then?

Any new dungeons that drop rocks, or even chunks?
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>>146313372
Every dungeon drops chunks.
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>>146312782
The glyph is:
wrcbxmfq
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How is the Fishing Hamlet floating in the air? I don't get it.
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>>146313948
Don't try to wrap your head around nightmare realms too hard.
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>>146313948
The sky and the cosmos are one
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>>146313948
It's a Nightmare; the geography can be fucky if it wants to. Look closely into the water right after you leave the Clocktower

It's probably also a jab at the B-Team's placement of Iron Keep.
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>>146314319
>Look closely into the water right after you leave the Clocktower
I'm not near my PS4 at the minute. Are you talking about the masts you see in the water?
>>
Someone please tell me why the Healing Church banned all travel to Byrgenwerth, and declared it "forbidden ground," because I honestly don't get it
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>>146314897
No, if you look down underneath the water, you can see Hunter's Nightmare Yharnam down there.
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>>146315056
The Healing Church was born when Laurence and co. left Byrgenwerth because of difference views regarding how/whether to use the Old Blood. They were essentially rival institutions, though the Church clearly still held great respect for Byrgenwerth, and especially Master Willem.
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>>146315056
To not have Willem snitch to travelers visiting the famous college of Burgenwerth, that the blood turns them into Beasts?
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>he uses shotguns instead of pistols
explain yourselves
>>
If you kill Gascan but leave CB alive you can use Gascans arena for PvP. Just have to summon outside the arena and then go in.
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>>146315258
>They were essentially rival institutions
That's not true.
There's no rivalty between the two institutions, and it's likely that Byrgenwerth fell before the church was conceived.
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>>146315481
Stagger, yo. If someone is trying to run off to heal, the blunderbuss will make them stagger hard enough for you to close some of the ground you otherwise wouldn't be able to.

Also with the right kind of gem the damage can get pretty nuts.
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>>146315481
I don't like to limit myself to one playstyle.
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>>146315574
Not really, since Laurence personally says goodbye to Willem just as he leaves
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>>146315893
Doesn't mean that the church was already a thing.
You can't found something like that in a day.
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>>146315893
>>146315992
However it doesn't provide any indication that Byrgenwerth went to shit before the church was founded.
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>>146316214
They blocked the entrance with bricks and took all their uniforms.
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>>146315992
>You can't found something like that in a day.
Yes you absolutely can. Sure the Church would have taken time to rise in power but the organization (whether named the Healing Church at that point or not) essentially came into being as soon as Laurence left Byrgenwerth.

>>146316330
They were all Byrgenwerth scholars. They had uniforms before they left.
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>>146316450
>They were all Byrgenwerth scholars. They had uniforms before they left
They also took part of their building and made it their headquarters.
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>>146316450
yeah, but the Cathedrals in downtown Yharnam, the statues, the research labs, the general infrastructure? that would take decades to build. The Grand Cathedral alone would be almost a century of construction
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>>146316450
An organization without power can't declare a public institution "forbidden ground".
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>>146316214
in the cutscene, Willem says "You seek now to betray me"

that implies that Laurence hasn't yet done anything, and is about to begin. Willem doesn't say "Wow dude you're a huge prick for having built an ENTIRE PUBLIC RELIGION behind my back for the last few years"
>>
>>146316703
They obviously didn't declare Byrgenwerth forbidden when they first formed...

>>146316665
So...? They certainly didn't build the entire city, but even with construction that doesn't mean the Church didn't exist prior to their infrastructure.

What the hell happened to this discussion? I thought we were just talking about whether the Church existed before Byrgenwerth got fucked up by eyes?
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>>146316897
They were basically nothing when Byrgenwerth was open, just a bunch of kids making projects.
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>>146316897
because people ITT seem to think that the Church was already an established power in Yharnam by the time of Byrgenwerth's fall, which is bogus
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>>146317315
Somebody's gonna need to start getting some citations up in this bitch.
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>>146317456
see >>146316889
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>>146291984
Don't be alarmed anon but your penis might be connected to the cosmos
>>
>>146316889
>Lawlaw leave Byrgertown
>Church forms

How does "Church begins" equate to "Church has full political rule over Yharnam and is widely known".
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>>146274141
proud of you be proud
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>>146316889
Nobody ever claimed to support the thing you're arguing against. You're fighting ghosts m8.
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>>146317614
because the Church's beginning was Laurence starting to use the Blood in his experiments, which sure as hell wasn't happening before he was out from under Willem's thumb
>he thinks that the Church was a real church and not just a front for evil science
>>
are the Vermin real?
>>
>>146317797
You're literally just making things up at this point then arguing why they're false.

Dude asked why Byrgenwerth was forbidden ground ffs.
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>>146317953
How can vermin be real if our eyes aren't real?
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>>146318228
because our Insight is real
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>>146317797
>>146317614
He was leaving to establish the Research Hall in that cutscene, an institute free of Byrgenwerth's restrictions, the church came later. This would have been shortly after they had stacked the hamlet, and realized how ineffective and slow Willem's teachings were compared to what the Hamlet fisherman had done to themselves.
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>>146319061
Regardless of name the organization running the Research Hall clearly evolved into the Healing Church we see in modern day Yharnam, so basically everyone in this thread has been aggressively agreeing with each other the whole time.
>>
>>146319061
wait a minute, the Research Hall was ran by the church. Didn't you see the statues in the Research Hall wearing the white church set? and how they had Laurence's skull?
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>>146319435
Yes. It's likely the church in its infancy at that point, but it's very obviously the same group.
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>>146319061
"I wish I was at home playing Bloodborne"
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>>146319061
>>146319828
>these horrific abominations
insight looks like a pretty terrible deal desu lads
>>
>>146319061
>Afterward, he wore his ally's own scalp, and hid himself away, deep below in a cell. The Church provided him with a single, soundless bell of death to ensure their secrets would be kept.

The Church absolutely existed in some form by the time we encounter the Research Hall, and while the experiments clearly began before the religious front, I'm sure it wasn't long after that the Church began its growth. Remember the experiments heavily involved spreading the Blood to the populace.
>>
>>146319435
Research hall started it all, people from near and far began to worship the miracle fruits of its science and a religion spawned, the Choir formed and sort to return to Brygenwerth's methods of studying the cosmos, and the ruthless School of Mensis pursued blood and metamorphosis.
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>>146320110
>clearly began before the religious front
The religious symbolism, chants and prayers are still here, at the beginning of the Research Hall.
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>>146319957
I can't tell is this is a female but those nipples are good enough for me to warrant a fuck.
>>
>>146320390
>>146320403
Obviously the Healing Church is a front for experimentation, and all signs point to the Research Hall being started alongside the religious practices.
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>>146320110
>>146320403
>>146320756
you could actually say that Laurence's cathedral in pic related is the oldest instance of the Grand Cathedral, before the Research Hall was built into it, it would explain the different sizes of the otherwise identical buildings.
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>>146209319
>>
>listen for the baneful chants. Weep with us, as one in a trance. And weep with us. Oh, weep with us.
what did he mean by this? I can't hear anything
>>
anyone in need of a cooperator? lvl 98 reporting for duty
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>>146320948
if you look closely, you will notice that the Grand Cathedral in irl Yharnam doesn't have a Living Failures boss arena, like the one in the Nightmare does. It should be just above the Celestial Emissary arena
>>
>>146320983
all the deep ones are mad because the old hunters fucked with their mother hydra globster and they want you to be mad with them.
>>
is it worth upgrading my gun with spare mats if I don't want to sink points into BLT? does it do enough decent chip damage to be worth it?
>>
>>146322071
What gun?
>>
>>146322176
hunter's pistol
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>>146321765
what? the bridges all look identical, it's the same low poly model of the grand cathedral, except Laurence's is missing the back chunk.

The Astral Clocktower is also way too high above the Lumenwood garden to be connected by a small staircase anyway.
>>
>>146322238
If you really don't have anything better to do with your chunks and rocks go for it.
>>
>>146322071
If you have the shit, why not? I have 699 bloodstone shards and 699 twin bloodstone shards so there's no reason for me to have anything I use at less than +6.
>>
>>146321861
If the Hunter's Nightmare exists because of the fishmen cursing Byrgenwerth for fucking their shit up, then why do so many Healing Church facilities exist within the Nightmare? Shouldn't the Church not have formed until after the Hamlet massacre by Byrgenwerth?
>>
>>146322176
>>146322238
The difference between an unupgraded gun and a +9/+10 gun is enough to make a difference, I'd say. Besides, if you've nothing else to spend your chunks on, you might as well.

Though this is coming from a guy that has 23 rocks and nothing to use them on, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
>>
>>146322379
Because the members of the healing church are the children of Byrgenwerth.
>>
>>146322343
Nah he's right. The Living Failure arena is a bulge around the middle of the bridge. In Yharnam it's just a straight shot acros the bridge.
>>
where do the Witches of Hemwick fit into the big picture? why do they wear the eyes?
>>
>>146322071
Only gun worth upgrading at base BLT is the repeating Pistol. Only upgrade the others if you have the materials to waste.
>>
>>146322584
They're pthumerians
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>>146322379
>curse the fiends, their children too, and their children's children...
all of Byrgenwerth's descendants are cursed as well famalam
>>
>>146322709
>no evidence provided
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>>146322886
>found in Yahar'gul
>found in chalice dungeons
>capable of resurrecting
>dressed in rags
>pale skin
>very old
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>>146291984
You must be cold good hunter...
>>
>>146322709

They can't be pthumerians. Witches are shrivelled tiny old crones, while pthumerians are big guys.

Also: Central Yharnam is entirely populated by Pthumerians
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>tfw Djura is constantly raping me

How do i git gud?
>>
>>146323150
>while pthumerians are big guys
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>>146323270
u ignore that nigga and go on with zone
>>
>>146323334
Have you ever seen a ritual master stand up, anon?
>>
>>146323270

If you have hunter's axe or threaded cane:

Climb up ladder and SPRINT at him then start hammering R1, you're guaranteed to knock him off his stupid tower

Don't forget to quit and reload so that Jewra's item goes back to his spawnpoint
>>
>>146297657
Roll for it!
>>
>>146323456
I always figured that the small ones have very short legs.
If the witches of Hemwick weren't malformed they would be pretty tall too, their spines are completely curved.
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>>146323334
>he literally doesn't know
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>>146323520
Pretty sure he's gonna fire a shotgun at me or sidestep
>>
>find suspicious beggar
>try and fight him on rooftop
>get ambushed by the tall werewolf guy with the rake, didn't know they could climb ladders
>panic and jump off of ledge, to solo the normal mob and come back to the Beggar once I'm done
>as soon as I fall down, the Beggar INSTANTLY dies
what the fuck just happened? has this happened to anyone else?
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>>146324081
Not him but it's Lilith from Monster Musume
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>>146322575
ehhh maybe, if you squint
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So do Sharp Abyssals not give +65 like Cold/Heavy?
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>>146324692
There are no sharp abyssals, thank From.
Game doesn't need 800 AR Saifs.
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>>146323894

Nope

That's how I kill him every time, you're going to be in his face with a running R1 before he fully recovers from the dismount, and the second or third R1 should knock him off the ladder (the first R1 if you're using 2H hunter's axe)
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>>146324982
Even better, do a running R2 with the cleaver. I knocked him off in one blow.
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the Hunter Axe is the best weapon in the game, even post-dlc

prove me wrong
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>>146325158
Saif.
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>>146325158
Even the Axe's description admits it's shit.

0/10 bait kiddo
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>>146324081
whatever happened to this comment?
we may never know.

have a doll
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>>146325158
Not even the best starter weapon tbqfh
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>>146325364
but the cane sucks
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>>146325341
That's not the doll
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>>146325158
Bloodletter is a direct upgrade.

>>146325364
Fuck outta here, Cane is the worst weapon in the game, bottom tier garbage that makes you suffer.
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>>146325439
User error.
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So wtf is Simon doing? He's dressed like some elite undercover Church assassin, but he's also an autistic neckbeard who needs his le medieval weaponry instead of a fucking rifle.

But what's he doing in the Nightmare when he doesn't seem too blood-addled, and why is he helping you to learn the secrets hidden within?
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>>146325731
>Local church assassin accidentally wanders into the Nightmare!
>Top 10 secrets this local assassin found out! You won't BELIEVE what's number 1!!!
>>
40 Arc ACB is pretty worthless

with 99 Arc does it melt things like Micolash's, or is it still fancy-looking garbage?
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>>146325731
He was part of the church.
He's here because he has an interest in nightmares.
>>
So if Lady Maria supposedly hated using blood weapons, why does she coat her swords with fire-blood during her fight with you?
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>>146325874
also why is he black
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>>146325513
Bloodletter requires a meme build to be fully effective.

>>146325731
>But what's he doing in the Nightmare when he doesn't seem too blood-addled
Curse the fiends, their children too

>>146326017
Because when she's being bullied she has to resort to desperate measures.
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>>146326041
foreigners come from all over the world, lured by myths of the Hunt, anon. Like Yamamura (who is from not-Japan). Hell, he's not even the first black person in the city, there's also Eileen
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>>146326116
>entire stats are memes
k
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New /bbg/
>>146326373
>>146326373
>>146326373
>>146326373
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>>146326116
Wow... This may be the most utterly idiotic post in this thread.

11/10 would bite again.
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Are arcane abyssal gems with a secondary effect of flat arcane up better than the 27.2% variants?
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>>146326017
She must stop you at all costs.
She's an original vileblood so her bloodtinge powers are inherently strong.
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>>146326250
Don't pretend the game is flawlessly balanced. Bloodtinge is shite.
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Is Blood Starved Beast one of those optional bosses?
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I want to start a new game with a more magic focused build. Is this a good idea? Or should I expect to get my butt plugged a lot?
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>>146327483
He's optional, but not killing him means you miss out on two other optional bosses, plus you can't start chalices.
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>>146327658
what optional bosses do you miss out on? I've never not killed the BSB
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>>146327836
Celestial Emissary and Ebrietas.
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>>146327483
>>146327658
He's technically optional. If you don't kill BSB, you have to kill Cleric Beast, and vice versa.
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>>146327913
oh right, I forgot that the door to the Church Workshop doesn't open if you don't kill him
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>>146297657
rolling
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