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Cooperator Edition

Silencing Blanked: >>145923825

>Patch 1.09 Info
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/12/update109.html

>Accessing the DLC
http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/09/the-old-hunters.html
Note: If the eye isn't showing up, go to: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
/bbg/ Fight Club:
Pthumeru - n6rc9jh8
Loran - jjpkdcgd
Isz - 9v8qndas
(every Saturday 6pm EST, general rules:http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Resources Pastebin - Planners, Calculators, Spreadsheets, Stats Info, Where to go next in BB, Guide Scans & Wikis
http://pastebin.com/aNR8TXUr

>Chalice Pastebin - General Info, Glyphs for Gems, Best Gems Setups, Multiplayer & Speedrunning
http://pastebin.com/489M5NBv

>Media Pastebin - OSTs, Concept Art & Screenshots
http://pastebin.com/t8byCxfj

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/jnbs35ZX

>Wheel, Fight Club, Arc 101 & other Misc. Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com
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first for the pure vilebloods.
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>>146045203
Second for DISGUSTING VILEBLOOD FILTH

Also second for wheel
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Rifle Spear.
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>>146045293
>wheel
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I like bloodborne
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>>146045298
It's been patched, anon
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>>146045293
>>146045371
git dealt
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>>146045542
Rifle. Spear.
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looking for wheels in NG++ cathedral ward ringing in the big thunderdome filled with giants
pass is "bbg"
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>>146045876
Wheels, you say? I'm on my way.
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Archibald if you don't open this door I swear I'm gonna burn your workshop to fucking char.
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>>146046620
Good luck faggot I'm hidden behind 12 tiny tonitrus's.
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Do any other gems restore HP or just the tear stone?
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>>146045935
i've upgraded my wheel from +8 to +10
let us purge more beasts and kin
i'll ring in the forbidden woods
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Need help @ Ailing Loran L3 please
Pass is bbg1
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>>146045579
I mean the Reiterpallasch is right there...
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Powder Kegs
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>>146047414
Setting up now
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Anyone willing to help with Martyr? Outside the boss room, password is "crown". Also, if you don't mind, please equip the "impurity" rune for vermin
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>>146045516
What a surprise! Me too anon!
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>tfw From will never patch in the yharnam bridge to cathedral ward shortcut

Why even include that whole area and the locked door then.
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>>146047886
Mind the spiders! I'm by the fog.
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i have fallen into that bird pit in NG, NG+, and NG++ now
do you want me to return to the lamp or wait here?
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>>146048230
This character is on NG+4 and I do not want to put up with that town right now. If you could make your way to the lamp, that would be lovely.
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>>146047886
Good stuff thanks
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>>146048058
I'm glad you asked.
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>>146048352
nws

>>146047910
omw. Ringing at fog
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>>146048376
>ywn go on sickass road trips between areas with daddy gascan, eileen, and doll
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>>146048295
I made it back, then silenced my bell and when I tried to re-ring realized I had no insight left from upgrading my wheel. Went to go get grabbed by amy, on my way back with a little more eyes.
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Last thread's wordcloud.
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>>146049543
>fuck vit like people
>lucifer holy shit

heh
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>>146049543
>lucifer holy shit
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>>146049543
>garbage vileblood nigger summon
truth

>finished doll
lewd
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>>146049543
>Gehrman saw frenzy know lore
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>>146049543
>Lucifer Shit
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i went ahead and upgraded every weapon in the game to +6 with the blood souls
ringing at byrgenwerth lamp in ng++, pass is bbg anyone is welcome to join
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>over 1615 damage in one hit
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aw jeez
i tried to dodge a spider jump but got blocked by another spider and counterhit
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So I know I'm bad at video games, but the hitboxes in this game infuriate me. Also are there Cooldowns or anything on parries? I attempt to parry Gerhman in the same frame each time, and 80% of the time the parry will fail or will pop as he's launching me into the air.
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>>146045556
>host gets layed the fuck out, face in the ground
>doesn't even move
>casually fades away
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>>146052263
If you land the parry on the hit as it connects with you, you'll still get launched. You're not immune to damage when you parry.
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>>146054530
Yes but the parry shot goes off before his attack animation happens. Is there a point in animations where no matter what the damage will land 100%? Shouldn't is stop the scythe before it hits you or whatever.
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>>146054571
Oh yeah, it's like how some heavy weapons work in this game; after a certain point of vulnerability, the attack gets super armour and can tank through most forms of interruption. You'll get it when Gehrman tricks his BB, but not when it's untricked, for example.
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>>146054571
Gunshots have start-up (10f, or 1/3rd of a second) and bullets have travel time. It's possible to fire your gun before getting hit, but then get hit before the bullet lands.
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>>146054663
>>146054692
Also his pull in, I can't seem to dodge it. Even if I side step or dodge out he still seems to turn towards me and catch me mid swing. I'm guessing I'm just dodging to early.
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>>146051753
how?
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>>146054840
The pull in is perfectly dodgeable. You need to become proficient.
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Reminder that executioners are the worst covenant from a bonus perspective
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>>146056437
but the best covenant from a PvP perspective
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Ahh...
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>>146059265
Kos, or some say, Kosm.
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>>146045203
>vilebloods
>pure
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gehrman is dead, NG++ complete, platinum trophy acquired. what now?
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>>146059772
Why kosm tho

If it's actually kos or kosmos

why not kosmo instead
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>>146062845
New character, pvp build
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>>146057071
how?

besides being able to purge unsuspecting vilebloods
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>>146062982
please, someone shop a picture of Kosm on the cover of a Cosmopolitan
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>>146062845
Do ridiculous costume builds and go screw with other people
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Can bosses drop offshape gems?
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Does anyone know how blood gems interact with the Wheel's tricked form? Do gems increase damage then the Wheel increases it again, or is it the other way around? I want to know if other gems are viable besides nourishing.
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>>146065050
Pretty sure they do but it might depend on what you're trying to farm for.
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>>146065512
For example Amygdala or the boss Brainsucker?
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>>146065829
Probably but the odds of an off shape dropping are super shit so its pretty much never worth trying to specifically farm for one unless you have far too much time on your hands
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>>146048058
My guess is that at some point in development, they wanted to do Dark Souls 1 style world design where you couldn't warp from the start. So having two bridges between central and cathedral with a different boss on each one made perfect since, since there are NPCs and dialogue and stuff that requires you to travel back and forth between them.

Once they scrapped that idea and gave you warping from the start, there was no reason for that door to ever be unlockable.

>>146062845
99 Arc build
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>be a chalice dungeon cooperator
>people ALWAYS summon you for the boring stuff like Amygdala and Bloodletting Beast instead of the fun stuff like queen Yharnam and Elder
Don't you fuckers have a bit of mercy for your fellow confederates
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>>146069304
Stop being an idiot then by using the SRRC. Instead make the chalice you want to co-op, stand in it, and ring your bell.
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>>146069478
And never get summoned.
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>>146069569
I got summoned constantly.
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>>146062845
twink who uses frc chalice dungeon gems
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>>146069770
so you finally payed the psn? will we be as fortunate as to see your awesome BL in the arena?
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>>146070469
I had PS+ until about a week or two ago. I haven't had enough time to play recently, and the games I have been playing are offline (just finished Nights of Azure) so I couldn't justify the cost of renewing. The only reason I kept renewing it for as long as I did was because of the PS+ games, but they have been absolute shit for several months in a row now.

Besides, my SKL character is my PvP character. That is the only one you would see in FCs.
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>>146070836
Given the amount of time you spend shitposting here l can't believe you don't have to play

Also, isn't bloodborne enough reason to renew the ps+? l mean, if l spent half the time you do on this board, seeing all the other people pvping and cooping together l would be dying to do that too
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>>146071926
I can take my phone or labtop with me. I can't take my PS4. Plus, the next game on my backlog is an offline game too.
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Anyone willing to help out with Laurence?

Location: Fog
Pass: reflux
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>>146065331
Anyone? I'd like to know if using my 9.1% arcane up +72.5 flat arcane gem is worth it on the Wheel.
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>>146072490
no one?
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>>146073194
sure gimme a sec to boot up
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>>146073386
should i bring in Valtr while we're at it?

Unless someone else is interested as well
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>>146073489
Pass on the npc, what level are you?
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>>146073545
47
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>>146073662
RIP
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>>146073813
ringing
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>>146073835
That wasn't as rough as i thought.
Sharing aggro is a wonderfull thing.
Thanks man!
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>>146074228
np famalam
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Anyone able to help me tackle the Orphan? My asshole has been reamed enough for my liking

Pass is bbg
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>>146074661
omw, gonna ring at fog
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>>146074661
Sure, just a sec
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God farming for good fire radials is suffering. To this day I still have trouble with the fucking dog because he just takes so damn long to kill. I'm doing ~540 per hit before a broken leg with the wheel and it just feels like his health never ends.
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>>146074853
He dies in 3 to 4 minutes with the Nose Bop strategy. If you are being aggressive with the leg strategy then he should go down even quicker.
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Thank you kindly Maclauren. Got him right after he got you. Jolly good show
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>>146075348
All good. Thought I could risk tanking out a last hit or two before beating him

You should wait for the third lad who said he'd join next time though
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>>146069168
>Once they scrapped that idea and gave you warping from the start, there was no reason for that door to ever be unlockable.


Not really any reason for it to be permanently sealed either... They could've just made it another "does not open from this side" on the Cleric Beast side.
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>>146070836
>I had PS+ until about a week or two ago.

I asked you to duel three weeks ago and you said then that you'd let it expire a month or two prior.
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>>146076392
>Not really any reason for it to be permanently sealed either
You're wrong, Gilbert tells you the reason.
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>>146069168
It's baffling how people don't understand that going to the bridge first and then to the sewers is part of Gilbert's questline.
Doing so actually expands his dialogue and gives you insights on what's going on in Yharnam.
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>>146075327
The Nose Bop strategy? I've just been dodging his head swipes and doing a dodge R1 into either the right or left leg. I still get caught by some of his delayed bites and slams sometimes though.
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>>146074853
If you get a good radial pop some arcane abyssals for arc up.
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>>146076583
But it's a thin wooden door dammit!
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>>146076941
I've found that cold abyssals, especially with the the secondary effect of a flat amount of whatever element I'm using, are crazy good. Even on the LHB, which already has great scaling, a 22.6 ARC scaling +14 fire damage gem outdoes a similar 26-ish% fire gem.
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>>146077209
I find them easier to farm once you get the boss down. I swear its always +65 so at least one of the stats are constant.
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>>146077494
>>146077494

>ATK DOWN
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>>146077826
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
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So I just completed my first playthrough.
After I killed the wet nurse I did a check to see if I missed anything and basically the Upper cathedral ward, blood rock, and one cord is all I missed.

I had three already, figured i'd go ahead and kill the end boss.
Didnt realize the ng+ would start automatically.

Anyways, what is a good weapon for quality build?
I picked up Ludwigs sword and its been super awesome.
Is anything new in ng+?
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>>146077993
>Anyways, what is a good weapon for quality build?
S T E A K
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>>146077993
the saw weapons, church pick, hmls
Most weapons are better as weighted quality like 50str/25skl or 25str/50skl, only lhb has even scaling
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>>146077826
>>146077947
Yeah thats the worst.

Good thing it isn't like 26.3 when you wanted 27.2
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>>146076504
You were probably talking to one of the fake Lucy's then.

>>146076910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXwxAgA7tak
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>>146078663
The Stake Driver has even scaling as well. LHB has B/B and the Driver has C/C, which is more in line with classic Souls quality scaling.
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>>146079607
It's still heavier on str than skl, though it's a pretty small difference
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>>146078712
Jesus that looks even slower than the strategy I was implementing. Why does this fucker have such high defense and health?
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Is it worth upgrading my internet connection and paying psn+ subscription to play Bloodborne online? I normally don't play online games but comfy coop with you guys sounds nice.
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>>146080173
Bloodborne only sends/recieves about 60-70Kbps of data during crazy shit; 20-30Kpbs usually.

You don't need to pay an ISP to buttfuck you harder so you can play games. Just stop the torrents while you're playing.

PS+ is worth it for BB multiplayer though.
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>>146079750
He's a big guy
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l've just finished reading the paleblood hunt and l feel like l have a good grasp of bloodborne's lore. Ask me anything you'd like to know
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>>146080580
how many dicks have you sucked
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>>146080580
>asking a bloodborne general if they would like to know anything lore related
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>>146080580
How did Willem create Rom if Rom existed prior to Byrgenwerth discovering the labyrinth/Old Blood? (as evidenced by the chalices being a Nightmare depiction of the past; pregnant Yharnam, Rom & Amy present, etc.)
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>>146079750
Because he has armor that you have to break. Once the Armor is broken, you do massive damage.

The point of the nose bop strategy is that is it safe and easy. It takes around around 3 to 4 minutes, and there is almost no risk of dying.

>>146080173
I'd say it is worth it for a few months at least. Just grab a 3 month sub.
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>>146080647
0, no homo
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>>146080173
Honestly I love the coop in this game. It's a ton of fun at every level, especially if you can hook up with someone, even it's some random fuck on this general. The PvP is entertaining as well, although it's not everyone's cup of tea. Not to mention you can't use chalice glyphs or see messages without PS+. I bought PS+ just for this game, and I haven't regretted it.
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>>146080672
Chalice dungeons are not canon. lt's not 100% sure that Willem created Rom anyways
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>>146080681
I don't know if massive is the word I'd use. Dodging R1 with tricked Wheel does like 50% more damage, but the fucker still has a shitton of health.
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>>146080946
>Chalice dungeons are not canon.
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>>146080946
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>>146081086
In that video it showed something like a 234% rate of increase in damage after the face armor was broken.
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>>146080303
That's good to hear. My internet is currently like 2Mbps so maybe I can play afterall. Now I'll just need a few months of ps+.
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>>146081645
I've never tried breaking the face before because it's such a pain in the ass with the Wheel, but you're right. I'll give it a try next chalice run.
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Post Hunters

Post your best Hunters.
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>>146082090
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>>146081963
Yeah, I have never been a fan of the wheel. The only way I could think of that you might be able to hit the face easily is with the jump attacks.

That's also why I never tie myself down to a single weapon with my builds.
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>>146082090
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>>146082090
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>>146082090
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>>146083184
>mfw yfw
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>>146082649
>itwastobigtobecalledachikage.jpg
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>>146083425
Hater gonna hate
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>>146083586
You can see the Down's Syndrome creep into your character design.
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>>146082352
I switched out to the HMS to break the face more easily. after it was broken, I noticed an approximate 300% increase in damage. I was doing over 1700 with a fully charged R2 only hitting with the projectile. The only downside to this method is doing massively decreased damage until the face is broken. Thanks for the info though, made this much more simple.
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>>146083586
tfw
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>>146082649
holy shit
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>>146083681
Happy to help.
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>>146084036
>my neck hurts
>my arm hurts
>I want to go home to doll
>are you the doll?
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>>146084036
le funny streamer faec
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>>146084036
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>Get summoned
>Hotdog
>Ringing Old Hunter Bell...
>Old Hunter Tomb Prospector Olek summoned
I don't, but I should.
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>>146085056
Is Olek bad?
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>numbing mist all over the labyrinth

"Secret recipe" my ass, they just stole it from the Pthumerians.

>>146085313
No, but people who summon him usually are.
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>>146085492
Because they are Pthumerians
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>>146085313
Awful for hotdog. Increases his health, rarely lands a useful hit, doesn't aim for the head, if he breaks anything its gonna be a leg which means a pissed off hotdog, dies really quickly especially if hotdog focuses him since he is shit at dodging.
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>>146085648
This seems to be true for every NPC hunter with Kirkhammer.
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>>146085947
Because the Kirkhammer is shit
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>>146086058
git gud
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>>146086273
This picture is so overused it's pathetic.

Do you people just keep like twenty copies around with different checksums so you can post it a dozen times per thread?
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What are the best gems for the Tonitrus on a 25 STR 50 ARC build? Odd bolt? Bolt %? Nourishing?
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>>146086058
Remember one thing, you're not wielding shit... It's you, you're the shit... It's utter badness...
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>>146086476
Are you upset?
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>>146086273
Implying the Whirlygig, Wheel, and Beast Cutter aren't all better STR weapons.
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>>146086058
>>146086610
>I don't know how to use/dodge x weapon
>therefore it/anyone who uses it is shit
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>>146086610
Hippy hunter poster.
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>>146086735
Implying Saw Cleaver isn't better than all the weapons you mentioned
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>>146086923
>implying cane isn't sexier than all the weapons he mentioned
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>>146086992
>cane
consider suicide
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PC when?
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>>146087083
Someone's mad that he can't get close to me.
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>>146086714
I think he is upset
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>>146087168
>implying there isn't an incredibly easy way to get close to canes
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>the doll takes less damage from headshots than bodyshots.
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>>146086992
>Cane
>STR
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Chalice dugeons are so boring.
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>>146087710
>Cuttah is literlly Str Cane

nice try pls play the game before posting
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Are there any waning arcane gems, or am I stuck with cold and nourishing for waning without an offshape drop?
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>>146087813
Only the first few. Once you reach the hard ones they stop being so boring.
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>>146087951
At what level should I do Ailing Loran? Chalice Dungeons haven't been fun so far but I do want the beast claw.
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>>146087829
I'm the anon that listed the Cutter, friendo. You're the one that mentioned the Cane in a STR discussion.
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>>146088352
As soon as you can get through without getting obliterated. If you can't handle it now then just come back 5 levels or a weapon upgrade later and try again.
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Starting out with BB after a long time playing Souls, should I just completely rely on parries? I'm not gonna PvP for a while because I don't want to pay for what I won't use enough
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>>146088539
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>>146088721
Only against strong enemies.
Parrying weak ones is a waste of bullets.
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>>146088539
>>146088773
more of these please
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game is hard

especially after coming from dark souls 3
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>>146088721
Parries are very strong, and are the best way to handle some bosses like the one in Cainhurst Castle. That said, it's FAR from the only way to tackle situations.
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>>146088912
I'm just worried I've already fucked up my build by putting a lot of points into str
I didn't realize I could parry until about 10 hours in
What's a smarter way to level up?
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>>146088773
the sweetest and purest
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>>146088942
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>>146089043
>I didn't realize I could parry until about 10 hours in

>long time Souls player

...
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>>146088912
>>146089041
Also, did I fuck up by going with the axe? I chose the pistol which seems to be fast at parrying
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>>146089043
Strength is the best for PvE, it gives you the widest variety of weapons at the beginning of the game and is great for staggering bosses.
Just go all the way to 50 and put 25 points in skill for strong viscerals.

>>146089225
Axe is good.
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>>146089196
To be fair, 10 hours isn't that long for a game, and I didn't get how the mechanic had changed. Happens when you are so fixated on a particular way of doing things.
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One last thing, is insight very limited compared to humanities in DkS? I mean humanities basically get thrown at you from every angle in Souls, doesn't seem to be as generous in BB
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>>146089043
Skill does power up your visceral attacks, but in early game there are more strength than skill weapons. On my first playthrough I just ended up with an imperfect strength build, and went with other builds on further playthroughs.

>>146089225
The axe is a great starting weapon, that tricked R2 is one of the best moves in PvE. The pistol is good too, it does more damage than blunderbuss and hits at range, although the blunderbuss is better at reliably getting those close range parries.
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What's the best weapon for 50str/25skl build? Preferrably 'fun' playstyle.
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>>146089568
you don't lose insight on death and it's only consumed at the bath/for summoning people

you get a lot as the game goes on because of the reward for discovering areas and beating bosses
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>>146089568
You get them using 'skull of a madman' objects you get during your playthrough, just as you get humanities in dark souls. You also get 1 insight if you help somebody in their world and lose 1 if you summon someone, just like in dark souls
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>>146089568
Shit, I meant madman's knowledge
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Also Dark Soul's humanity stealing enemy isn't as unnervingly scary as those fucking slurp slurp rapists. I want to visit Iosefka but that thing at the clinic rear entrance makes me have second thoughts.
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>>146089568
If you decide to start doing chalices you'll be swimming in it.
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>>146090626
The ones in Cathedral Ward aren't dangerous, they can't immobilize you.
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would you prefer a tiny doll?
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>>146089728
LHB
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/bbg/, I'm not sure what to do in Bloodborne. Level 100, on NG, currently doing Defiled Pthumeru, and it all seems kinda extraneous now. Do I need to spice up my playstyle? Maybe different weapons? Tonitrus for forty hours is fucking dull.
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Requesting sleepy Lady Maria images
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>>146091476
For my dick yeah
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>>146091591
>Tonitrus for forty hours is fucking dull.

Extremely.

Use a trick weapon with an actual trick.
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>>146091591
Get a wheel.
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>>146092119
>>146092092

I've tried other weapons, Wheel included, but I just can't beat the Tonitrus' effectiveness. It's too good.
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>>146092243
Wheel is better though.
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>>146092407
Eh? Maybe, with certain gems. As is, while my wheel slightly out-damages the Tonitrus with a rev or two on it, the health loss and slower speed are huge minuses.

Kos Parasite seems kinda promising, as does the Boom Hammer, but I'm still looking for chunks.
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>>146092656
Parasite is amazing.
You should go spelunking and get gems + madman set.
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>>146092751
Been spelunking! Defiled layer 3 has me stumped, though. Gonna try trudging through it again tonight, when I have the time and patience. I really just wanna get to FRC dungeons and get gems damnit.
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>farming temperings from boss watchers
>the lever guards drop them and are much quicker to farm

why didn't anyone tell me?
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>Farming Watchers for Bolt/Fire/Arcane 27.2%'s
>27.2 Tempering Beast down
>27.2 Tempering Beast down
>27.2 Tempering stamina cost up
Why the fuck can't I get this shit on my SKL or STR characters? I swear it knows I don't want this shit.
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If I make/share a CD, then remove the chalice from my gravestone, will it die?

I've heard of certain dungeons being no longer active and was wondering if gud dungeons need to be kept on the altar for eternity.
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>>146092091
no, not for that.
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>>146093847
Save the glyph code and you can remake it, for free too
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>>146094028
Cute. Source?
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>>146094524
I've seen people say "that glyph is no longer active". What causes this?
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>>146093181
What glyph is that?
Hate fighting the madman in pwmf22gu
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>>146094858
>>146094991

cfdwfr7w

From Layer One lamp, turn right, then left, and you're at the lever with a saw Watcher.

Obviously this is for Triangles since it's Isz.
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>>146093181
>>146094858
Also curious about this glyph.
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>>146094756
some glyph die of old age

>>146094552
don't rightly know
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Migrate:
>>146062865
>>146062865
>>146062865
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>>146097076
fuck off lucifer
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>>146097076
nah
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>>146097296
>>146097186
That was like the third time I saved the thread from Page 10 pruning. It's time to reintegrate.
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>>146082090
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>>146082090
>>
>invade world

>fucker freezes and I disconnect a moment later

How are they doing this, and why would they
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>>146097479
a handsome woman
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>>146097978
>pull ethernet cable from ps4

They do it because they're literally homosexual.
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I can't wait for remastered bb that plays in 60 fps on ps4 neo
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>>146098258
How do some people break the treasure chests?
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>>146097479
Strong jaw and chin, but surprisingly good.
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>>146098386
wail on em
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>>146097479
>>146098454

A bit too close to the "powdered tranny" end of the spectrum for my tastes, but definitely far better looking than most characters come out.
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>this is a layer 2 boss

well fuck
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>>146099689
Prepare for Layer 3 to be HBLB back for revenge.

It's happened to me several times.
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>>146099689
The strategy is basically the same as this (though headless is a bit easier).
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>>146099910
>implying Hau Ruck doesn't know what he's doing
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>>146099689
Glyph?
>>146099790
Does normal blb drop heavy abyssals?
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>>146100182
>Glyph?
his filename is the glyph
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>>146098620
>>146098454
>>146098064
Thanks for the (You)'s lads
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>>146100014
yeh he definitely didn't just bite my head off for the 3rd time in a row

>>146100182
hefkqfeq
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Has someone saved luci's bloodtinge/STR build? I am super bored and want to try it
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>>146101009
I'm surprised you don't bookmark every one of your posts in the archive so you can look back at them to relive the experience of free (You)s
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>>146101009
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>>146101182
Ty
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>>146101182
Thanks
>>
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>>146101009
go for the 117 version, 40blt is absolutely disgusting
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>>146101369
But keep Skl at 14 (for backup chikage) because Bowblade is fucking sickening.

Why was Simon such a fucking autistic neckbeard that he couldn't use a gun and needed some fancy-ass silver bow?
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Are bloodborne's servers down? lt fails to connect
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>>146101598
wait wut, why keep skil at 14? I don't understand
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>>146101784
14 skl lets you use chikage

15 is needed for the bowblade, but the bowblade is autism incarnate.

If you don't want the chikage either (because what kind of Str hybrid build uses a katana?) just bring skill down to whatever the Gatling Gun needs.
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>>146101784
Apparently, he got owned by a Bow Blade and doesn't want you to use it as a result. Bow blade is super fun against things like Amy or Bribri. Just go to 15 skl.
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ls anyone playing online?Are servers down?
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I don't think I've ever seen a keeper guarding a lever before

>>146102860
I am, but no summons coming in, this might be the end of the dream.
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Fow a low BL wheel build would 25 STR 25 Arc be ideal or 20 Str 30 Arc?
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>>146102860
>>146103143
I just re-logged without any error messages. Not sure if that means everything is working though. At the very least the login server works, though IIRC there are separate matchmaking servers.
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>>146102229
I'm not PVPing so I may as well just go to 15 SKL
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>>146103146
Softcaps are 25, so you'd probably be better off going 25/25. What level are you aiming for?
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>>146103482
If you aren't PvPing then no reason to stop at 98/117 either.
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At forty five blt and a plus ten Chikage I feel like it's doing crap for dmg.

What's the point if this fucking thing needs end game gems?
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>>146103507
57
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>>146099790
You called it, layer 3 is headless bsb.

Must be a theme the dungeons can get, like the rom children.
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>>146103594
I find I get OP in NG+ if I go much higher
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>>146103773

My personal favourite theme is "trash bosses"

>mfw Loran Silverbeast
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>>146104054
>ywn get a cd with Boar, Silverbeast, and Brainsucker
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>>146104054
>mfw Layer 3 Loran Silverbeast
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>>146103773
>>146104054

I'm always hesitant to to Isz roots because I always end up with Brainsucker/Emissary/Ebri or Watchers/Brainsucker/Ebri.
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And not a forth layer in sight

>>146104330
There aren't enough good kin bosses to make root Isz dungeons much fun, you'd think since there's a Loran Darkbeast variant for Paarl we'd get a Orphan of Kosm variant for Isz or something.
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>25.3
>25.3
>25.3
>25.3
>25.3


vogons pls
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Maria
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>>146105531
Adella
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>>146105775
Brador
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>>146106262
Ludwig
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whats a good build for pure guns? Is there such a thing?
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>>146106790
Bloodtinge

There are only 6 stats in the game people, it's not that hard to figure out.
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>>146107119
well what guns are good for pure guns
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>>146107653
Evelyn, Piercing Rifle, Reiterpallasch, Gatling Gun
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>>146107798
Gatling gun needed more range. In fact all guns, and HMLS and Simon's Bowblade need more range.
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Imagine what these threads would be like if BB allowed you to trade items.

>anyone have can giev me lost chikage?
>any spare 27.2s pls?
>halp i need sum1 to giv abyssyls i cunt bet ludwag on arc bild
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>>146108280
The gem begging would be insane, lost/uncanny weapons not so much since you don't need to farm them, glyph with special weapons are easy to find online.
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>>146109297
But do you think any of those people would actually bother unlocking Depth 5 roots if they could just beg for the weapons?
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>>146099910
>showing somebody how to deal with a boss
>gets hit in the webm
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For an ARC build, 25 STR/50 ARC is the Boom Hammer worth using, and if so, is it better with fire gems or nourishing gems?
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>Play through making a build for the Bloodletter
>Pick up the Beastcutter cause why not
>Doesn't do much damage but fucking wrecks Ebrietas and Amygdala
>Is amazing at crowd control as well
>Finally get the Bloodletter
>It's tiny in its non transformed form and when it is transformed it takes up way too much of the left side of the screen
>Actually repulsed by looking at the thing too long

I think I still prefer the Amy Arm to the Beastcutter but man this is disappointing.
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so i just got to Gehrman for the first time, and i almost beat him first try. then i fucked up 4 times, almost got him and fucked up twice again. when the fuck can you parry his charge? i waste way too much bullets that don't stagger him and subsequently get scythed.
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>>146110584
Nourishing
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>>146110668
I was kinda disappointed by the untricked form, but I thought the tricked form was entertaining to use, not only for the godlike moveset and scaling, but because it looked hilarious.
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>>146107798
>Not mentioning the glorious blunderwonderbuss
With one of those cursed Blt% with flat Blt+ secondary it hits ludicrously high
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What's the best chikage version for bloodtinge and why is it the lost chikage?
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No one can catch us! No one can stop us now!
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>>146111868
FOR WHAT PURPOSE?
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>>146111868
Majestic!
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>>146100182
>Does normal blb drop heavy abyssals?

No, he drops temperings with a secondary roll. See pic.
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>>146112513
>it's better than the 27.2

well shit where do I sign up?
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Somebody do this, but for Bloodborne.
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>>146105531
A corpse should be ______
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>>146112701
>blueblood is useless once buff runs out

0/10 shit-tier bait

Even without a buff the BBS hits like a greatsword at straight sword speeds.
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>>146112685
Any glyph that has him in layer 3.
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>>146112958
>>146112685
>>146112513
Wait this whole time those Abyssals have been better than our 27.2s?

holy shit.

I can't I don't have another grind in me.
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>>146112906
Either you never played DeS, or you never used many min-maxed builds and have no clue what sort of damage output powerful weapons in DeS are capable of. BBS unbuffed did something like 100 to 150 per swing, assuming a standard build of 18 Strength, 18 Dexterity, 30 Magic, and 25 Luck. Crushing or Blessed Claymore, meanwhile, would hit 300+ unbuffed assuming 50 in Strength or Faith.
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>>146113415
>100 to 150 per swing
This is just blatantly false.

Besides BBS scales to 30 luck so why have that much magic? 18/18/18/18/30 and you're hitting 300 buffless easy.
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>>146111862
Circular slot.
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>>146113758
more like cuckular slot
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>>146113672
So you've never played DeS, ok lol.
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>>146108280
>>146109297
Gem trading would be a terrible idea, but I think it would be nice if you could spend insight equal to the rarity to buy gems that you've already obtained, or could mash two gems of the same type and rarity together to replace a shitty curse with a better one.

I would 100% spend 20 insight to buy abyssals. You'd still need to have gotten one in the first place, but it would cut down on the grind so much.
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I killed a Wandering Madness so close to when it vanished that its corpse was gone and the yellow loot thing didn't appear but I was still prompted to take the loot and could actually take it. Has anyone encountered this.
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>>146109297
Back when you could SRRC to skip depths, people used to ask all the time for people to ferry them down to lower depths where they could get Burial Blade or Beast Claw or w/e.
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I need help with Laurence, I am right outside the boss room, psn is ZuluNugget
please help me I'll suck your peen
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>>146115078
On my way senpai get those sucking lips ready
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>>146115452
will do
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>>146115591
Ready to go, what's yer password?
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Need help on vicar. Lvl 31 rangin in cathedral ward with password bbghelp
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>>146115796
pass is hentai
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>>146115796
also I'm at the hunters nightmare bonfire with the bell ringing
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>>146115964
Ringing at Cathedral Ward lamp
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>>146116247
Make sure to ring on the password my dude
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If I'm doing an Arc build (pic related, just killed Amy and Chalice Rom) which varients of weapons should I use, and can I get any of them with my progress in the dungeons? All my shit is +6, and I don't want to waste Chunks on something I'm not going to use.

Saw Cleaver is doing great, it has 2 16% fire radials and the Waning from the main game. I just unlocked Loran, so I should be able to farm a better one soon. But my Cane is struggling to keep up, I've got the Arc Triangle from the woods and then two physical Radials which do nothing except boost visceral damage (I don't know why that works, but it does).

Would a Lost/Uncanny Cane be better? I could put a bolt waning on, then a Noirishing Triangle which would improve my damage a bunch and Bolt is more useful than Arcane, especially since I have Auger which is completly overpowered.

Every gem farming information I find is always endgame, where do I get decent stuff to get me to endgame? Only reliable upgrades I've had are new Fire Radials in each Pthurmuru dungeon.
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>>146116247
Wtf I opened that gate
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>>146116454
Forgot the pic....
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>>146116454
Kos Parasite, Tonitrus, infused weapons.
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>>146116713
The PS4 has a fucking screenshot function. Use it.
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>>146112718
flat as a board
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What's the deal with the Watchdogs that are on fire? Is there a good way to fight them beyond get-one-hit-in-then-run-away-for-10-seconds?

Also, this half-health is literal murder for my character. This dumb dog can one-shot me.
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>>146116893
>kos parasite
>stuff to get to endgame

Orphan is pretty endgame level bruh
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>>146112718
a corpse even in a dream, but alas, not too fast.
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>>146105775
thirstiest bitch in all souls frankly
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>>146117701
No seriously, it's 50-50 whether I die the second I enter the room since his charge has bullshit timing.

One time I saw him bleed lava and he seemed stunned for a bit but he recovered before I could check if a visceral is possible. Is it?
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What is the point, purpose, and potential of the fist of gratia?
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>>146118507
none, nothing, nada
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>>146116893
Tontarius requires too much strength for a pure Arc build, I'm going for Kos Parasite but nearly everything in the DLC is 1-2 shotting me, so it's a struggle.

> infused weapons

What do you think I've been doing? Did you even read my whole post? I was asking which gem-slot varients of Cane/Saw is best, how early I can get one and where to farm some semi-decent gems to get me through the game.
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Lvl 33 looking for help on Witches. Ringing outside their room with pass bbghelp
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>>146117472
Can you read
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>>146118810
Always Lost.
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>>146118852
Give me a few to set up and I'll ring
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>>146118507
If you use a threaded cane or something with no stagger its got better stagger potential and doesn't use bullets.

I guess thats something?
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>>146119163
Nah it isn't
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>>146118914
Thanks my dude
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>>146119660
Nws
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the Orphan of Kos did nothing wrong

you literally can't dispute this
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Excuse the retarded question, but when are you even supposed to do chalice dungeons? If you save them for the end game, they're too easy to be fun, if you do them alongside the main game you end up too overleveled for the game to be challenging. I entered Yahargul at level 98, that's dumb.
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>>146119941
I just barreled through all of them as literally the first thing I did on NG+. Yeah, the first few were piss easy, but I probably wouldn't have been able to clear Defiled and Pthumeru without those sweet, sweet NG souls
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Best gems for beast claws? On an average strength build, 50 str 14 skl.
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>>146119925
>cancels attack animations
>nothing wrong
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>>146119941
You could have some self control and not level up....

But really Dungeons just sent balanced well, for example Lower Pthumuru is much harder than most of the vanilla game in terms of health/damage values. But it still thinks Twin Bloodstone shards are a reward to be excited about. Dungeons were really not thought out that well, there's never a "natural" time to do them, and the only motivation is the gems in Depth 5 dungeons.
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>>146117701
>>146118258
20 tries in, no end in sight. I don't want a summon, I just want tips. Breaking his legs seems to give me a few seconds of free hits but that doesn't help when his 2nd phase is too fucking aggressive when I have only 500 health and his weakest attack does around 350.
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can anyone please help me with Ludwig? pass is ggnore.
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>>146120892
omw
>>
beast claws are way more fun with the rune
how hard am I gimping myself by using it
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>>146120930
Actually, scratch that, something came up. If you're willing to wait 5-10 mins I can help
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>>146121070
yeah sure thing i can wait. I've taken enough ass beatings to know patience is key
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>Get summoned for CB
>The host is so laggy CB starts T-posing and ice skating in circles
>A second cooperator comes in mid fight sprinting into the fight
>CB breaks T-pose, appears in the air, and drops down, 1-shotting him
>CB returns to T-pose
Holy shit my sides
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>>146121153
New anon, I'll come help as well. Three versus Ludwig is always fun
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Anyone wanna speed me through cainhurst? I'm starting a bloodtinge waifu and need hand holding. I'll be ringing at the lamp in a couple
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>>146120512
>receive shitloads of $$$
>Not level up
And so what? Blow it all on useless consumables that I'll never need? Suicide twice to clear the counter?
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>>146121153
Alright, shits been finished. I can join now. omw
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This might be a dumb question, but why is the Moon yellow in the Hunters Nightmare? Who is trying to descend?

It can't be the MP, because it makes the moon red, not yellow

It can't be the Orphan, because he is already there, descended fully

It can't be Kos, she is dead
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>>146121508
Ringing at first bell with pass bbghelp
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>Ffinal boss of the second DaS3 dlc is a fully matured Good Hunter leviathan protecting an abandoned, unresponsive doll.

The only thing DaS3 could do to please me, really.
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>>146120635
Ah fuck it, anyone want to help? This stopped being fun after the 30th death in a row.

>tfw I get stuck on almost every single boss.
I'm hemorrhaging blood vials at this point and I have no blood echoes to buy more.

This is Cursesd Pthumerian Defilement Layer 2 btw. Will make a password if there are any takers.
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>>146121753
It's just the moon
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>>146121753
>the Moon
Fucking hell is it a dumb question.
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>>146121932
No, that would be awful
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>>146120892
I don't seem to be connecting so I'm gonna go reset my shit. If worse comes to worse, go on without me and I'll try and help hotdog anon
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>>146122061
?
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>>146122305
>>146121070
im sorry anons. im out of insight. give me a second to see if i can pull any madmans knowledge out of my ass.
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>>146122386
That's the sun you dolt. Praise It
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>>146122487
Alright. You're at the fog, right?
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>>146122061
>>146122002
>>146121753
It's a possessed celestial body, and a symptom of the hunters curse.

The moon is a symbol of fertility, so a cursed moon would be a symbol of fertility gone sour.

And to be possessed is to have something inside of you. Kos was pregnant and died, and her baby became cursed inside of her.
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>>146118507
Strips hyper armor off. But it's fucking slow and has bad range.
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>>146116454
Always go Lost on ARC builds.
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>>146122735
So the Orphan is it's source? Is that why it disappears when you boop his ghost?
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Lvl 35 looking for help on Logarius. Ringing Outside his room with password bbghelp
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>>146122974

Can i ask why? I can't say i'm a fan of the gem system.
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>>146122981
That's my read on it, the orphan is returned to the ocean, the moon recedes into the cosmos. They're metaphors for each other.
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>>146123298
Do passwords negate levels? I can take a break from getting my asshole torn apart by the Watchdog and head on over.
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>>146123298
I'll join. It doesn't seem to be working out with Ludwig anon. Give me a moment to get there
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>>146123465
Ye
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>>146123465
>>146123478
Thanks anons. I'm putting together a bloodtinge build for my girlfriend and this will be everything I need
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>>146123465
Levels don't matter with a password
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So if Kos is dead, why are the Mensis praying to her? Did they just not realize that it was actually the Orphan, lurking inside Kos, that was behind "Kos'" displays of power, or is it another case of Micolash being completely retarded?
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>>146123580
Ringing!

>beating a boss to allow someone else to cheese
Anon...
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>>146123675
How are they supposed to know?
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*heavy breathing*
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>>146123675
>another case of Micolash being completely retarded

Name one thing Micolash says that doesn't make sense once you learn more about the Great Ones and the Cosmos.

Kos being dead on the beach doesn't mean Kos' consciousness is gone. The Great Ones operate on a higher plane of existence and death for them is not as simple as for humans. Notice when the Orphan cries out for help in its fight, lightning is called down right onto Kos' carcass, as if Kos was responding to her child's prayers.
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>>146124046
>Name one thing Micolash says that doesn't make sense once you learn more about the Great Ones and the Cosmos.
AWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
hes a furfag
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Thanks for the Logarius assist anons
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>>146124169
Nws, if you want, I can help with hotdog now, after I reset my shit again
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>>146124165
No, he's mocking you, calling you a beast.
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>>146124169
No problem.

Did he look like he was spazzing out the entire time for you? He as just twitching the whole time for me so I couldn't tell what he was doing.

>>146124224
If you don't mind! Same password I guess: bbghelp
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>>146124297
He was spazzing out hard, but I thought that was on my end, hence the reset. Anyway, ringing

Won't be helping on layer 3 though, that boss is too much of a shitshow in co-op. Much easier solo
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>>146124046
That doesn't imply that she can do much more than gnash her teeth impotently as a spirit thing (Orphan-esque) like Sauron post-RotK. If Great Ones like her can retain their full power/influence over the world, even after death, you run into questions like
>why didn't Kos personally intervene to save the Orphan's irl body from getting chopped up by Byrgenwerth
>why doesn't the MP come back and blow you the fuck out immediately after the credits roll
>why couldn't Rom keep hiding the Ritual after you kill her

Even if a Great One's consciousness can survive beyond death, and it can exist on alternate planes, it's powerlevel and influence in the current reality does not
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>>146123903
Shit nigga that's sick as fuck. You wouldn't happen to have know if the build process of that was documented with pictures and such or not, would you?
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>>146124224
please do im on my last insight
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Hunter axe or threaded cane?
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>>146124549
Certainly, but I don't see how that would stop the Mensis folk from praying to her. People IRL pray to things that don't have any power in the real world either.

Also, in the middle of the fight Micky seems to have that "oh shit the Cosmos have all the connections to the great ones not the Sea" epiphany.
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>>146124757
axe for damage, cane for STYLE
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Anyone have a better glyph for waning nourishing than ske4igwv?
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Goddamnit his charge is bullshit.

One more try on Hotdog?
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>>146124943
Saw Cleaver for ____?
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>>146125382
being one badass motherfucker
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>>146125168
Room for another? I'd love to help.
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>>146124829
Well, they were praying for a pretty quantifiable goal (ascendance), so they seemed pretty confidant that she would be able to deliver.

The only thing that I can think of is that Byrgenwerth never realized that the Orphan was behind the arcane bullshit in the Hamlet, not Kos, and the Orphan pulled the whole place into the Nightmare before they could figure it out. Hence the Mensis' mistake
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>>146125580
Ah yeah! Finally I can move on from this stupid fight.

Thanks a bunch.
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>>146125580
We just got him

>>146125690
nws
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>>146125382
Easymode
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>>146124645
It was indeed my friend. Well, some of it. Feel free to message me on FB at Walridercosplay.
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>>146125382
>>146125496
Being boring

Also, has anyone noticed how obnoxious serrated weapons would actually be to use?
>swing at yharnamite
>teeth dig in
>teeth get stuck, like cutting into wood at a bad angle
>get killed by his buddies as you try and pull it out
Thanks Gehrman
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>>146123903
Looks superb, but don't do that gay pose
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out of insight (again)
one second
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>>146125937
Stay strong Ludwig anon, we will get him
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>>146125789
>>146123903
How does he see out of it? Are there tiny eye holes, or is he blind?
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>>146125789
are you a boy or girl?
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>>146126031
I see solely through insight. But actually when the visor is down I can't see shit. The visor portion does lift up a bit.

>>146126116
I'm a guy haha that's my wife.
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>>146125892
Try not to think too hard about all this. Just go out and kill a few beasts.
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>>146125992
Anon who left here, I can try ringing again. Hopefully things are working better connection wise now.
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>>146125892
Then there's the Rakuyo's knife side facing TOWARDS you instead of away, making it only useful for that stabbing motion the second R1 does, but impossible to slash things (besides your own arm) with it.
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>>146126597
i still cant find a madmans knowledge for the life of me. i drained all of em out @ byrgenwerth right before rom, and ive been trying to beat ludwig for a while.
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>>146127145
Time to go spelunking
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>>146127145
Just make the first chalice and beat undead giant, you're over levelled so he'll be easy. Gives 2 insight for the win as well
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>>146127456
alright then. give me a second, then
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>>146045062
So I just faced the Orphan of Kos.
Jesus fucking christ he's terrifying.
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>>146127820
Did you see his second form?
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>>146127820
>Terrifying
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>>146127695
Sure

Helping out another mate in the meantime though so I might not be here right away
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>>146127820
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>>146127930
I did maybe 200 damage to him before I jumped face first into one of his attacks and died.
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>>146128042
You still don't know the meaning of "terrifying" then.
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>>146123675
Jesus died 2016 years ago and people still prey to him. Why can't Micalosh do the same to Kos(m). Also he wants to be granted eyes, like Rom, since Kos was found dead by Byergonworth, the granting of eyes happened post-mortem. So there's no reason why Micalosh can't beg for the same thing.
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>>146127941
That's also creepy.
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>>146123675
But in stranger Aeons death may die.
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OH BOY

DEFILED AMYGDALA

HERE WE GO
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>>146128042
His second form is designed specifically to counter souls veterans, have fun.
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>>146128982
Wheee!
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>>146128982
Even the first form has a few moves like that. e.g. he hits you, then if you reflexively roll backwards to gtfo of there you land right in his next swing.
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>>146128982
>designed to counter them
> you can still parry him to death
skill build made him a joke. ludwig was a nightmare though.
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>>146129086
Or that combo attack where the logical thing seems to be to dodge towards and behind him and his last attack in the combo hits behind him.

OoK is the hardest boss Miyazaki ever made in my opinion.
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>>146129086
I actually got into a good groove where I could dodge him, stagger him with two swings and back off, but I never expect the Yo-Yo attack.
Also, on that note, how fucking awesome is it that he fights with a Yo-Yo?
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>>146129281
That's the most risky way to fight him.
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>>146129281
>Ludwig
>Harder than OoK
Ludwig was my absolute favourite boss in BB but his fight was extremely conventional, the only real trick he had was his moonlight tsunami since it makes you think it's an AoE and you have to back away.
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>>146129427
A Yo-Yo made out of his mother's fucking placenta no less.
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How the fuck do you deal with Amy G's third phase? I just can't close in and actually finish the fight, but the first two were easy.

Would co-cop actually make the bitch harder?
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>>146129513
That's pretty damn insane.
Also, jesus christ those sobs at the end of his introduction. That was heart wrenching.
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ludwig anon here.
ive got the insight and im ringing.
pass is ggnore like always
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>>146129591
Stand between his legs facing towards his crotch, he won't be able to hit you and his AI will force a jump, when he does roll forward twice and you'll be right next to his head when he lands.
Rinse and repeat until he dies.
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>>146129676
And then you fucking murdered him for no real reason other than he was there.
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>>146129591
It does. Most people suggest cheesing her jump attack but if you're a blt or an arc build, you can just spam bma or bse or something

>>146129739
ringing
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>>146129763
>no real reason
He's the reason why hunters end up in the Nightmare.
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>>146129506
My issue was that the trick cane was very easily punished. Where as timing parry wasn't. Than again my final swing was with the cane normally so his smaller frame just made it easy not to get face wrecked.
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>>146129763
Admittedly, he hit me with his Yo-Yo first.
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>>146129746
The ideal spot to stand is right at his tail when he jumps. Don't get near it before he does though, his swipes have large hitboxes that extend behind him.
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>>146129763
You don't actually kill him, you just sever his connection to the nightmare and allow him to return to the cosmos.
It's very questionable whether great ones can be "killed" in the way humans think of the word.
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>>146129853
He doesn't attack you unless you get close.
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>>146129954
>It's very questionable whether great ones can be "killed"
Not really
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>>146129965
Fair point.
I have to say, Fishing Hamlet is one of the coolest areas I've ever been too. The rain, that one giant thing by the entrance mumbling about curses, the area at the bottom with all the dead fish and snail women, that chain of snail women all praying to Kos
The corpse of Kos
It's just so damn atmospheric.
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>>146130092
please elaborate
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>>146130202
And don't forget the Hamlet's BGM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRh-dzrI4Z4
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>>146130204
>PREY SLAUGHTERED
When you kill a great one, it's dead.
Sometimes living beings that died in the waking world keep existing in the nightmare, but it's also possible to kill them again.
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>>146129763
But even if you do it seems that the BB dlc is the only "happy ending" there ever was in a souls game though. Sure you're just a clueless foreigner in the middle of lunacy just killing monstrosities because they are on their way but by the end of the game, you put Ludwig, Maria and OoK to rest and lift the curse of the nightmare and you also put Gherman to rest by either taking his place as the MP's puppet or killing it and ascend to become a Great One.
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Trying Amy G again, lets see if three is the charm.
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>>146130202
It's Innsmouth, most the other stuff in the game took vague inspiration from Lovecraft but the Hamlet was Miyazaki writing a love letter to Howard, going to his grave, and fucking punching through six feet of dirt just to hand it to him.
Of course a ton of effort went into making it amazing.
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>>146130390
>JP version says YOU HUNTED

That's just empty victory text anon. Only NIGHTMARE SLAIN has any real meaning.
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>>146130202
>dead fish
Look closer.
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/bbg/ is blessed by the good blood once again.
thank you, hunters
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>>146130597
Nws

Always fun to show up late
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>>146128982
I'll teach those smug cunts that blocking is for fags.

-Hidetaka Miyazaki
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>>146130518
Damn did he ever capture it. I think it's the one area that feels completely and wholly Lovecraftian. Not that the other areas don't have some cool Lovecraft vibes, but the Hamlet has it in spades.
I think the rain is what makes it all work too.
Also, on the topic of Kos, any tips if I insist on using the Whirligig Saw on him?
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>>146130390
Except we get nightmare slain when we kill Mergo and Moon Presence.
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>>146130832
>I think the rain is what makes it all work too
But Innsmouth is very sunny.
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>>146130436
The Sunrise ending is close to a happy ending for the PC as well. You can just say "fuck this shit" and get the fuck out of there.
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>>146130717
>the description on the Wooden Shield
Way to be an asshole Miyazaki.
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>>146130717
Ironically enough he's the only boss who I actually equip a shield for in the game, his blood balls and call for help become so much easier to deal with.
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jesus fucking christ, always hits me with the jump or the fucking explosive arm slam

I strongly dislike Amy G
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I'm stuck on a mob Chalice Boss and am very embrassed/ashamed.
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>>146130971
Looks like he also decided to take a jab at cannon users with the Church Cannon description and Cannon nerfs, but I'm not sure why.
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>>146131079
It's okay if it's the maneater boar, that fucker can get pretty annoying.

If it's a brainsucker or silverbeast though than I'm just fucking sorry though.
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>>146131101
He can take jabs at us all he wants, it ain't gonna stop me from using it like a moron.
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>decide to see what's up in the frontier these days
>3 man gank squad
>push host off cliff

k
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>>146130937
I know, but Fishing Hamlet feels like Innsmouth after a goddamn cataclysm. Which come to think of it, it basically is. It feels like a Bad End Innsmouth, and the rain helps bring this really apocalyptic feeling too it.
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>>146131191
Beast-possessed Soul :/
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>>146130557
FUCK THAT GAVE ME NIGHTMARES AS A BOY WHY CHRISTOPHER WLAKEN WHY
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>>146131341
eh he's only sorta a mob; you're alright
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>>146131101
>I'm not sure why
Nigga, pre-patch cannon was fucking ridiculous, cannon shitters were worse than Evelyn shitters, at least Evelyn doesn't have an AoE that's hitbox seems to be fucking randomly generated
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>>146131341
SHOOT IT IN THE FACE
Seriously, shoot that fucker in the face.
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>>146131341
Anon, beast possessed soul really isn't a mob, he's more of a miniboss who occasionally shows up as a roaming boss.
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>>146131505
PUT IT THE BLOOD, PUT THE POISON IN THE BLOOD, THEY'LL DRINK IT
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>>146131662
First, what set is that guy wearing?
Second, OH SHIT KALI MA
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>>146131431
It's my first time back since DaS3 but i'm still not happy

>>146131505
I'm doing a bloodtinge build so there has been a lot of shooting but seem to be doing shit for dmg even at +9 and 48 BLT

>>146131662
I'm NG+++ Orphan levels of mad right now so maybe i'll come back later.
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>>146131784
Cainhurst Armor + Blindfold Cap
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>>146131747
kek

>new botw
>no Mike

No, thanks
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>>146131784
Choir hat, cainhurst armour, Maria's gloves, and Yahrnam hunters trousers
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>when they dodge back to heal but you parry it and Brush Off Dust
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>>146131662
I love his animations so much, he's so satanic
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>>146132180
>when they bloodbullet mid fight and you parry it and burrito them
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Alright, I made the Ihyll chalice. Do I neat to beat THAT for FRC?
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>>146132560
Only need to beat layer 2 to get the Ihyll root chalice
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Anyone wanna co-op an early game boss? Need a break from spelunking.
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>>146133392

Are you looking for a host or a summon?
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>>146133991
Host, eheh.
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>>146134162
Well I just started NG+4 if you want to join. I'm at Central Yharnam lamp, pass will be 'bbg4'
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>>146134336
Awrighty, I'll meet you there in a jiffy.

I'm on NG, so lets see how this goes.
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>>146131907
No no, you don't shoot him for the damage, you shoot him for the stagger.
Seriously, Beast Possessed Soul is incredibly easy to chain-Visceral. He combos like a Punch-out character, even if you're well out of range he'll keep swiping at thin air for like, five swings. Shoot him, stagger him and punch through his chest.
Also, if he starts biting at you or primes the Kali Ma, just back off. Don't bother parrying it, because if you fuck up the timing he still initiates the grab and then becomes buffed.
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>>146125789
>FB
The lengths I have to go to...
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>>146134336
You still there, famalam?
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Someone want to explain to me why the nightmare newborn fetus that we took from the queen of the Pthumerians has absolutely no use or value beyond ''yeah, I did it''?
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>>146134958
Yeah. I'll try resetting the PS4 since it doesn't seem to be working.
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>>146134336
Room for another?
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>>146135129
Awrighty, I'll be waiting.
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>>146134990
It's the pendant of BB, Miyazaki just wanted to fuck with us.
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>>146135318
>>146135264
yep
Just started ringing again.


>>146134990
You have to glitch behind the Deku Tree and use it there.
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>>146135381
Shit, was restocking. I'll be there in a minute.
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>>146135381
Iunno man, I'm not getting anything. Restarted my PS4 too.

Password IS 'bbg4', right?
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Okay, so at the time of my death I counted 14 red spiders in THAT PART of Layer Two Alilng Loran
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>>146135381
Wanna continue on to Gascan?
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Bully anyone?

Password is qt
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>>146136710
Ringing outside cleric beast.

You coming with us Nessi?
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>>146136761
Bully who?

Mah-ree-uh?
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>>146136849
yee, she is a qt and loves getting bullied.
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>>146136813
Yeah, be there in a flash.

Soon as this fucking message loads ;-;
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>>146136813
Awh man, this looks like a fun group.
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>>146137029
Ask them what level they are and where they are and get invading
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>>146136710
>>146136813
Hey, nerds. What are level are you guys? And your exact location right now please.
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>>146137504
Level 544, right outside of gascan's room near the flaming ball.
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>>146136813
Fug, how do I take screenshots? That's nice, I'm saving it.
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>>146137721
Share button
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>>146137684
fuck off no way, there's no way you're already up to gascan
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>>146137823
Share button?

I'm an idiot, sorry.
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>>146137885
Actually literally the button on your controller labeled "SHARE."
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>>146137880
You're right. He's already dead.

You guys wanna keep going? I'll ring at... wherever it lets me start ringing on the way to Old Yharnam
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>>146138109
tell us what level you really are pls
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Old Yharnam lamp? Wanna meet there?
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>>146138182
Nah meta-fags will cry.

185

>>146138215
Sounds good; I'll run down.
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>>146138249
See you in Old Yharnam
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>>146136849
So d-do you wanna help?
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>>146134990
It was probably going to have future use before BB was abandoned by From. They do this all the time.
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>>146138581
Can't, sorry yo. Maybe later
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>>146138752
You're good anon, thanks anyways
>>
Outside of chalice dungeons are there any good locations to farm 3 chunks?
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>>146138908
No, but unless you've picked up every last chunk in the game, you can just go grab some that are lying on the ground somewhere.
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>>146138908
Upper cathedral werewolves though they can be finnicky sometimes.
>get 6 chunks killing them 4 times
>don't get another 2 for another 12 sets
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Oh dear, you are dead.

We'll be by the BSB gate.
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>>146139398

Make contact is probably the greatest gesture in all of souls
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Do I need to make a Facebook or Twitter to upload these images?
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>>146139613
>Do I need to make a Facebook or Twitter

Jesus fucking Christ what has become of 4chan?
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>>146139683

He's asking because the PS4's share functions seem to be all bound up with social numedia anon.
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>>146128572
We suffer together. I've died a thousand times to this cunt. The only hard part of the fight is not falling asleep and getting one-shotted. I hate this garbage. If you had full health it'd be ten trillion times easier.
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Gonna open the gate and ring at the C. Ward lamp.
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>>146139550
>Anything better than Shrug

I'm still mad it's not in Bloodborne.
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>There are people in this thread who unironically don't believe that approval is the best gesture
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>>146139820
>tfw the only good gesture DaS3 introduced was Curl Up
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>>146139820
>>146139881
It's joy
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>there are people that don't think curtsy is the best.
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>>146139758
Yeah, not sure if there's any other option. There is, right?
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>>146140453
usb drive
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>>146140387
>tfw there is no option to hug the doll
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Wew I oughta use Beast Blood Pellets more often.

Fuck the police, let's go straight to the Nightmare.
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>>146141084
Frontier? Shit, alright.
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>>146141084
>>146141114
Nah Hunter's Nightmare
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>>146141192
o-okay, I'll try not to get murdered
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>>146141268
We all will (get murdered)]/spoiler]
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>>146141351
Omw to give that note a "Foul"
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Damn Kassidy, ya spooked me when I saw a cuttah hunter swinging at us.

We'll be by the lamp Nessi.
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>Yharnamites behind the doors in Central Yharnam know about you and distrust you for being an outsider.
>Yharnamites behind the doors in Cathedral Ward "mistake" you for a hunter, in keeping with their policed, gated community.

Except of the Skeptical Man, which is in keeping with his character. I think it's a nice little detail.
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>>146141716
Ringing already.

That would mean me and Kassidy are 2 and 2 for deaths.

But I look prettier.
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Am I even going to get any psy attack gems in Isz? I'm only getting arcane after arcane fuck.
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>>146141784
>But I look prettier.

Says the one who won't let us see their face.
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>>146141851
Next time we finish an area, I'll take off Milkweed.
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>>146141716
MOAR BLUHD

It's actually only +6, I don't have the chunks to upgrade it right now
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Well fuck, that wasn't good.

I kinda got lost.
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1:2:2
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>>146141840
pls
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How do I escape defiled Amy's one-shot jump attack? My options seem to be:
>lock on and fight the camera while the jump happens. Pray I don't get hit
>don't lock on and pray my roll goes well
Anything else? Is there a way to avoid triggering the jump?

I saw a webm in here one time with some super MLG gamer that can perfectly predict where the head will be but I can't do that, it took me like 3-4 tries to not die just entering the room (oh boy, it has a one-hit kill charge attack; who'd have thought?)

Side note: if I don't add curse to the upcoming chalices do I miss out on anything? I'm tired of this one-shot bullshit.


>git gud
I'm trying.
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Hunt the Great Ones. Hunt the Great Ones.
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>>146142808

Curse gits you gud gems at the price of assbeatings
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>>146142808
When she jumps, stand still. Works enough of the time to be viable, but doesn't have a 100% success rate. Charge an r2 in that time and you'll hit her when she lands
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Well shit, 1:2:3.

I feel like I'm a tad underleveled for this one.
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>>146142808
>>146142942
no, when she jumps, run to where the tip of her tail WAS.

works 99.9999999999% of the time
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Alright well forget those fuckers. Not enough echoes that time to be worth going back for.
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>>146142942
How do I even know what direction to do the charge attack? The camera has a seizure.
>>146142930
Meh. I don't care all that much about having a 27% instead of my 20% or whatever. I'm not doing pvp.
>>146143220
Hmmm ok. I could give that a shot.
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>>146143291
>27% instead of my 20%

This is a massive difference and has nothing to do with pvp autism. At least get 25.3/26.3 gems
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>>146143291
I just charge the r2 the way I'm facing and hope for the best. Usually hits.
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>>146143280
Eugh, sorry, that's happening too much.
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Any difference between Isz and Great Isz?
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>>146143549
The word Great. Seriously
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>>146143605
Goddamn, I know it's the same layout and bosses but like it doesn't have better gems?
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Need screenshots of this silliness, guys.
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>>146142808
Just stand behind her tail was and don't move.
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>>146143887
>tfw posting mid-Ludwig fight
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>>146144147
Well fuck, and I thought we coulda won that too.

This time, we have him!
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>>146143887
Wew lads
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>>146144147
>>146144263
>>146144329
Ringing by fog.
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>>146144135
That's the webm I mentioned. I suppose I could give that a shot (I have nothing else going for me with this anyway).
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>>146144380
Just fuck my vitality up senpai

LETS HOPE IT GOES WELL
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wew lads

phase two on my own.


Here I go...
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>>146144461
As for knowing where the head will be, face away from her, stat charging your R2, and only lock on when she lands, break lock on immediately after the attack lands
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>>146144329
>tfw no Enlarged Head hat for the messengers
>tfw no Mensis Cage hat for the messengers
>tfw no Golden Ardeo hat for the messengers

oh well
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>>146144626
RIP; had him at a bit less than 1/4
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>>146144837
Damn. I'll try not to get mauled in the first ten seconds this time.
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>>146144925
Well, it wasn't quite ten seconds...

Wanna try it again if you fail or naw
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Farming Winter Lanterns as BLT seems undoable
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>>146145083

At least it was quick and painful.

I died right after you two.
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>>146145112
r1, r1, dodge grab, dodge again to get behind, r1, r1, ded, heal/sedative

Wear frenzy res gear or the rune too
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>>146145191
I have a harder time dodging their grab than I do the Orphan of Kos
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>>146145173
What's the sword on the right? Is it a DLC one (I don't have the DLC yet because poor).
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>>146145112
>get bloodletter
>r1->r1->its stunned->r1->dead
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>>146145173
Jesus fuck, he just melted.
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>>146145330
That's what I thought the Chikage and Bowblade get my ass killed.
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>>146145395

Shrouded by night, but with steady stride.
Colored by blood, but always clear of mind.
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>>146145395
Beast blood Pizza Cutter will do that.

Next stop Yamamura?
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>>146145513
>>146145495

I oughta head in, honestly, but I'd be pleasured to pick this up tomorrow, if you two want.
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>>146145575
I'll probably be around at some point (read: all day) tomorrow. Thanks for the help and the nonsense!
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>>146145683
Hey, was a good time. I'm leveling up damn fast from this, so I might achieve parity with you all before long.

You've got top-tier gems and stuff too, right?
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God dammit I'm actually kind of interested in the Skyrim remaster because the Dawnguard and Dragonborn dlcs deal with werewolves or lovecraft.
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>>146145723
I know I do, at least. I can only assume Seraphina does too.
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>>146142291
Always more blood.
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>>146144329
>trying to meme this hard

Get on my elevator level
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>>146145794
>>146145723
Pretty close but the RNG gods still won't give me those sweet 27.2s without ATK down or HP drain.
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>>146145794
Awrighty, I'm on Ihyll, so I'll get to work on that... ohoh, haven't been this excited in a game for some time.

m-maybe you all can help me with FRC shit
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>>146145862
I'm honored you saved my elevator hijinks.

And technically I WAS on your level there.
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>>146145896
I'd be more than happy to, when the time rolls around. The grind is much more bearable with company.

>>146145889
Ack, ran off and got flailed on. I think I'm going to take a break for now though, it's late and I'm starting to get a headache from hunger. If you're still up for it when I'm done, I'll jump back in though.

>>146145862
Hey, I was trying to get three people in there but you two didn't run in after me. Unless three people is too much for that elevator, I've never tried.
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>>146145848
>>146142291
DID SOMEONE SAY BLOOD?
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>>146146121
Even two people is too much. Half the time it just throws both of you out.
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>>146146121
awyes, sounds like a baller time
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>>146146013
Yeah, gotta screenshot the weird shit

>There are people in this thread who haven't fought Yurie, the last Shadow
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>>146146238
>no collapsed pupil

garbage attention to detail -1/10 burning my ps4 with thermite
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>>146146321
What on Earth is going on here?

And damn Seraphina, you're prolific.
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>I don't want Bloodborne 2
>"Why?"
>Because it would be a rehash
>victorian Lovecraftian setting
>rehash

Literally why and how do people come to this realization?
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>>146146464
look at any sequel

Particularly Dark Souls 2, and Dark Souls 3.

It's called foresight.
>>
Full moons are traditionally associated with temporal insomnia (inability to sleep) and insanity (lunacy and lunatic)
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>>146146520
Is that gonna be the new currency? What does foresight let you see?
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>>146146421
Its a glitch. Occasionally, when co-oping in Byrgenwerth, the shadows hp bar will pop up and remain there until the area is finished. Very rare though, only seen it once before on someone else's character.
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>>146146574
How shitty the game is. ;)

Or how shitty Bloodborne 3 will be?
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>>146146520

>look at any Souls sequel

Demon Souls and Dark Souls

Keep "Blood", "Lovecraft" and "Victorian" as the focus/setting, call it "Blood-Something" and give us more hunteran.

Also, Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 base game.
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>>146146574
The obvious.
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>>146146671
What happened to it once we fought Rom? Did it get replaced or did it decrease in place of Rom's?
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>>146045062
blood born pfff you guys should be playing dark souls 3 like every one else

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJzMdm80h6c
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>>146146238
I'm still mad that the boomhammer hunter hat isn't a drop. They go and put that huge hat in Dark Souls 3 but no massive brim top hat in Bloodborne.
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>>146146691
In Bloodborne 3 you accumulate hindsight.
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>>146146790
I've had it happen before. It leaves the top two healthbars and replaces the bottom one with Rom's. So the screen will still have three healthbars, two of which are Shadows and one of which is Rom.
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>>146141602
Still 33/33. And you can't do anything about it.
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>>146146932
Sounds like a Dark Souls 2 NG+ gimmick.
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>>146146464
no sequels, spiritual successors are the way to go.

Miyazaki said that they've some kind of sci fi game in the works, and an ARPG too, if they're one in the same then my dream of a mutant armored core/souls game hybrid might come true.

captcha: bodies of water
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>>146146790

What >>146146932 said. Rom's name gets thrown on the bottom bar and takes damage accordingly. I was more annoyed about the sound glitching at the time in that fight though. It was going crazy
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>>146147283
Oh right, that! It just went mute for about ten seconds or so on my end. Unless that's what you meant by going crazy?
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>>146147283
The sound thing happens every single time I get summoned for Rom in Byrgenwerth, and it's pretty awful.
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>>146147353
Not quite, never went fully muted for me. It just sounded like some parts of the audio just dropped out completely for a bit of the fight but you could still hear it. Not sure how to describe it
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>>146146984
I'll rest my balls on your face. Say that to me in Mergo's Loft: Middle and not online and see what happens.
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>>146147167

>le Sci Fi meme

FUCK OFF, it sounds fucking garbage.

>HURR
>SCI FI TECH
>USE MELEE WEAPONS, HAHAHAHA LOL XDD BUT IT LUKS KEWL AMIRITE REDDIT?!

Victorian + Lovecraft = GOAT
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>>146147630
Oh, like it was muffled? Sounded like you were underwater, almost? That must be what happened, I've run into that more than once.
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>>146147630
There's sort of a windy sound while all the attacks/movements are cut out. It's very surreal.
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If I kill Eileen as she's bleeding out can I still get her set? Not feeling fighting Crowsteels faggot ass today.
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>>146147813
1v1 me bicth

no gems, saif only, nightmare frontier
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>>146147925
Yes, you just need her badge. Going through her quest/killing Crowsteel gives you a few emotes and the Hunter of Hunters rune which you can't get by killing her.
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>>146146464
fuck no, I want From to make something new and fresh if they make another Soulslike game make it feel as different BB felt compared to DaS in terms of setting and gameplay. Otherwise you end up with sequels like DaS2 and 3 which although are good games on their own, feel like there was no risk taking decisions during game development to innovate the formula.

Also one of the greatest things about BB was that everyone assumed the game to be some kind of victorian Van Helsing meets Castlevania werewolf slaying souls game while Sony and From totally kept the lovecraftian twist unspoiled.

Moments like getting abducted into Yahar'Gul or getting grabbed by Amygdala would definitely not have the same impact if they did something similar in a BB sequel.
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>>146147860
>Sounded like you were underwater, almost?

Oh fuck. Memezaki just lored the SHIT out of us!
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>>146147860
>>146147870
I suppose that's the easiest way to describe it. I guess in a weird way it can add to Rom's fight being in the Moonside Lake and all. Distracting as hell though
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>>146148063
Oh, and you might miss out on Hendryk's set if you kill Eileen before getting to his fight, but I'm not sure, he might still spawn.
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Do I need get Vermin from NPC Hunters?
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>>146146716
>Also, Dark Souls 3 > Dark Souls 1 base game
At least try to be subtle about your baiting.
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>>146148132

Dark Souls felt (and looked) damn near identical to Demon Souls both in gameplay, era and setting yet is arguably the best in the series.
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>>146147817
Anon sci fi doesn't necessarily mean lasers and guns and shit, think of a setting like Road Warrior where bullets, guns, and fuel are incredibly valued commodities because they haven't been produced in decades. Or a setting so far into the future that the sun is a red giant and all that remain on earth are the silicon children of a long extinct humanity.
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>>146148518
>arguably

DeS and Bloodborne both blow DS1 out of the water.
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>>146148449

>over half of Dark Souls 1 is complete trash
>O&S is the only good boss

Baiting? Dark Souls 3 had better visuals (no 30fps lock), bosses, areas, weapons and was essentially better in every way than Dark Souls 1 outside of linearity/connectivity of the world design.

Dark Souls 1 became complete DS2 levels of shit once you reached Dukes Archives. Go on, try and argue me nigger. Even the PVP scene in DS3 isn't even a quarter as bad as DS1s PVP scene on launch (which to this day is a backstab/ninja flip SHITfest).

Remember when you could Ninja flip with havel gear on? Kill yourself.
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>>146148607

In your (and my) opinion. Outside of Demon Souls, Demon Souls is dated trash fueled by nostalgia.

Doesn't make my statement wrong (which it isn't). The general consensus is that Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne are the best in the series.
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>>146147817
>implying miyazaki would make a generic stereotypical setting for the genre

Just like he did with Bloodborne right?
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>>146142808
if you stand near her left foot, like under her arms, you can bait a stomp attack that is easly dodgeable and leaves her arms open for a few swings.
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>>146148712

>implying miyazaki would make a generic stereotypical setting for the genre


Quote me where I used the words generic/stereotypical. Go on, quote me.
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>>146148710
Tower of Latria is my favorite single area in the series, and that isn't nostalgia talking because I played DeS between DaS2 and Bb.
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>>146148838
>quote my implication

You do know what that word means, right?
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>>146148710
>>146148838

DeS is also the least-played by fans of the series. Most of the "DS1/BB are best" crowd never even played DeS.
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>>146148912

>le tower of Latria meme

Everytime, you're not fooling anyone Demoncuck.

>>146148917

How did you even get to that implication. I made a general statement on Science Fiction settings and how it wouldn't work due the guns being possible. Guns worked in Victorian setting because Guns weren't even close to Automatic at the time, melee is simply inferior in this day and age, never mind the distant future.

If you mean Sci Fi (Post Apocalyptic tier) like >>146148579 then I could see it happening.

I would still prefer more Lovecraftian/Victorian settings, perhaps a prequel/totally different lore in the same vein as Demon > Dark Souls.
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>>146148621
>Dark Souls 3 had better visuals (no 30fps lock)
True
>bosses
DaS3 had the exact same problem, the only real good boss was Pontiff Sulyvahn
>areas
DaS3 suffered a major issue of huge but empty and boring areas (Road of Sacrifice being the prime example) or just endless narrow maze like hallways (demon ruins), the only area that actually had a fantastic design was Irithyll (which they fucked up with huge groups of mobs and fire witches that aggro and attack from halfway across the level)
DaS was far from perfect and I will admit some areas like the demon ruins and Blighttown were just plain awful, but outside of those there were really no bad level designs, the massively interconnected world from lack of warping made sure of this.
>weapons
Weapon arts would be nice if they didn't cost fucking mana to use, something only a primarily caster build will have a lot of and in that case they probably won't be using weapon arts in the first place.
As it currently stands they're pretty much useless, could take them out of the game and no one would notice.
>PvP
Estoc/Dark Sword r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1
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>>146149514
you can't just call something a meme to discredit it anon, latria for my life.

>>146149848

>DaS3 had the exact same problem, the only real good boss was Pontiff Sulyvahn

Deacons f the Deep is the best mob boss they've ever done.
>>
Anyone want to help on NG+2 Amelia?

Pass is bbg
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>>146149960
>you can't just call something a meme to discredit it

Welcome to 4chan. Enjoy your summer.
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>>146149970
I'm eating right now, but I'll lend a hand once I'm done. Shouldn't be more than about five minutes or so.
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>>146149848

>DaS3 had the exact same problem, the only real good boss was Pontiff Sulyvahn

Outright bullshit. Nameless King, CHAMP GUNDYHR, Prince, Pontiff, Abyss Watchers, Souls of Cinder, DragonSlayer Armor, were legitimate great bosses. Pontiff isn't even in the top 3.

>DaS3 suffered a major issue of huge but empty and boring areas

Road of Sacrifices included the forest which was a legitimate good area, not a single one of those areas even comes close to how shit and Tomb of Giants, Izalith, New Londo and Dukes archives were.

Not one.

The fact that you consider Blighttown as awful shows me that you have bad taste. Blighttown (on PC) was a great area with fantastic level design/verticality.

>Weapon arts would be nice if they didn't cost fucking mana to use

Subjective preference, I see nothing wrong with tying it to Mana consumption.

>Estoc/Dark Sword r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1

Nowhere near as bad as Ninja Flip Ring + Havel + Sunlight Blade Falchion r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1r1

R1 spammers are free kills (abuse hyper armor and trade with them for 2 easy kills or git gud and parry) whereas a ninja flipping Havel wearing scrub (it's been patch but we're comparing launch PVP scenes right?) was near impossible to kill in DS1.
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>>146149970
I'll hop on now and join
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>>146149848
I actually really liked Blighttown's design.
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>>146150645
>Nameless King, CHAMP GUNDYHR, Prince, Pontiff, Abyss Watchers, Souls of Cinder, DragonSlayer Armor
Gargoyles, Quelaag, Priscilla, Sif, O&S of course, and Gywn were all great bosses in my opinion too, but you're probably just gonna give me a "nope their shit, fuck you" response

>Tomb of Giants, New Londo and Dukes were bad
New Londo was atmospheric as fuck and I loved Tombs total darkness thing but that's subjective (hell, untended graves was basically the same thing only it was like 5 steps long), but Dukes Archive was one of the best areas in the game hands down, Grand Archive was one of the better areas in DaS3 and it was a severely watered down version of Dukes.

We've already mentioned arts being subjective

>whereas a ninja flipping Havel wearing scrub was near impossible to kill in DS1
You could just parry him same as R1 spammers in DaS1, and at least poise was a thing so you weren't stunlocked by a katana if you wore enough armour, where as poise literally doesn't exist in DaS3 and it's just a massive stunlock fest.
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>>146150645
>the best bosses are "big armor mcman with big mcweapon"
>the same thing people bitch about in DS2 is praised in DS3
100/100 I love it
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>>146150662
Not getting anything so I'm gonna stop ringing
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>>146151520
Oh... I only just started ringing because I had to kill Crowsteel first.
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>>146151585
I guess I can try for a few minutes more in the hope something happens
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>>146151346

Priscilla and Sif? The lore behind Sif is cool but the fight itself is complete trash, it's like me using Vordt who had the same strategy to beat him.

Prsicilla herself was a complete joke and Gwyn was far too easy to parry abuse even for complete scrubs and Quelaag is just boring.

So you have O&S, Gargoyles, Queelag, Sif and O&S (best case scenario) vs Vordt/Dancer/Souls of Cinder/Prince Lothric/Dragons Armor/Abyss Watchers/Nameless King/Champ Gundyhr/Pontiff etc?

>New Londo was atmospheric as fuck

It was complete trash, both areas. New Londo actively guides you into just running through the entire area removing any "cool atmosphere" that might have been had and the Tombs was just repetitive/tedious due tot he darkness gimmick and enemy placement.

Dukes Archives was just garbage and here's why

>Can't damage Sif when you first face him with your arrows literally glitching through him
>have to attack an enemy through a wall (breaking all Souls conventions) to get the key to your cell
>linear spiral stair case and a repetitive "library" area that looks the same and is easy to get lost (and not in a good way)
>Sif is one of the weaker bosses with a bullshit curse gimmick that affects you even after death
>Court Yard is empty and just feels rushed, there's nothing of worth outside of Le Onion man appearance
>"invisible floors" area is cool at first only to realize that the enemies there are ruined due to how easy it is for them to kill themselves by falling off

It's just a boring area with pitiful level design and outright bad game choices that go against the essence of Dark Souls. The fact that you HAVE to die is complete bullshit.

>You could just parry

Hahaha, and if you did get stunlocked you had to use a LITERAL GLITCH/EXPLOIT to escape (toggle escape) and you get stunlocked for a MAX of two hits in DS3.

I'l take no Poise > Everybody ninja flipping in Elite Armor (muh min max) with falchions and backstab fishing.
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>>146151867

Sif =/= Seath

Just an FYI for the retarded
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>>146151654
Not getting anything so gonna stop. I tried
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>>146151867
Not him (hurr durr samefag etc etc) but i'm just curious as to what mentally unstable freak told you that you would be able to sway someone opinion online about videogames of all things.
Your conversation with the other anon has passed the point of back-and-forth debate about the quality of DS1 v DS3 and is at a point where you both want to just shit on the others viewpoint as much as humanly possible.
Nothing can be further gained from the discussion, and this already off-topic reply chain is not something we need in a thread as inactive as bbg is right now.
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>>146151867
>Gwyn was far too easy to parry abuse
Just like Gundyr, Pontiff, and Watchers.
Also, why the fuck did you add Dancer to that list? Dancer was absolute fucking garbage.

> New Londo actively guides you into just running through the entire area
Unless you use Transient curses like you're supposed to, that's like complaining that Grand Archives is shit because you die of curses all the time.

>Dukes
That's the whole fucking point, you're not supposed to be able to hurt him first time around
Really? An area is shit because you have to hit a wall?
>Linear
Nigga, Dukes has some of the best verticality in the game
We're not talking about Seath, we're talking about the area
So basically Road of Sacrifice but smaller and with less crabs
Who cares about the one or two crystal golems in the cave, that whole section revolves around navigating the floor so I'll take a handful of easy enemies when the level itself is so good.
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>>146152303

>Pontiff
>easy

He's harder than every single Dark Souls 1 boss.

>Also, why the fuck did you add Dancer to that list?

Same reason you're adding unremarkable bosses like Quelaag to the list.

>Unless you use Transient curses like you're supposed to,

The ghosts spawn non stop, it's pointless to fight them all, not a single playthrough/person i've spoken to has done something else other than run past every single enemy.

>That's the whole fucking point, you're not supposed to be able to hurt him first time around

And it makes no fucking sense and looks like an outright glitch. Watching my arrows go through a boss as well as dying to a boss as to no fault of my own goes against the very nature of Dark Souls.

The whole "you died because it was your fault" argument doesn't apply there, none of it made sense. Why didn't they remove my weapons when they threw me into jail? It all just felt forced, linear and like something that you would find in an Uncharted game, not fucking Dark Souls.

>Nigga, Dukes has some of the best verticality in the game

How can you call Blighttown shit and then praise Dukes verticality?

Literally what the fuck is your thought process?
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>>146152975
>How can you call Blighttown shit
Dukes isn't a slideshow, also the swamp (granted the poison swamp in DaS3 was even fucking worse because they decided to add mini Amelia's and fucking Basilisks to it)
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>>146153235

>Dukes isn't a slideshow

Don't play it on console, the argument has been obsolete since it got a PC release.

> also the swamp (granted the poison swamp in DaS3 was even fucking worse because they decided to add mini Amelia's and fucking Basilisks to it)

Git gud. I will take ACTUAL non linear vertical design/new gameplay mechanics > repetitive "identical looking" level design.
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>Equip Radiance rune to crush filthy vileblood heretics in the Hunter's Dream
>Can't ring bell
>Realize I haven't killed Mergo's Nurse on this NG+ cycle
>Conflicted between fighting Gehrman/purging vilebloods and not having my house on fire

What do I do, /bbg/? I want to purge, but I don't want my Dream to stop being cozy.
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>>146153314
>Swamp
>non linear vertical design
>Not repetitive "identical looking"
Nigga, the Swamp in both games is a single completely flat and fuck huge area (twice as fuck huge in DaS3) that looks exactly the same no matter where you are.
At the very least in DaS1 you could use the old iron ring to move around quickly, in DaS3 you just spend 20 minutes just rolling or walking to open a door, the only thing to look forward to is knowing once it's open you never have to go back to that shitty place again.
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>>146153591

Swamp is totally non linear.

>access to an optional boss/covenant
>completely separate upper area (the one you go up the lift in)
>can activate the fires in any order you choose

Have you even played Dark Souls 3?
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>>146153591

Also, I was referring to Blight Town as "non linear vertical design", not Dark Souls 3.

No way can you praise Dukes Archives for its "vertical design" and then claim that you hate Blighttown.

That alone exposes your whole argument as one of damage control.
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>>146153494
How many vilebloods would you get in Hunter' Dream anyway? If its not many, keep the comfy workshop.
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>>146153691
>You don't have to go to this fire first, you can go to that one over there
>Nah, this doesn't actually change absolutely anything, you still have to spend 20 excruciating moments slowly walking around
Also the other area is another area, that's like saying the great hollow is part of the Blighttown swamp

>>146153762
I already told you, bad fps (you're the one who insisted we talk about initial release where there was no PC port, for that reason I've kept AoTA completely out of it) and the swamp, the level would be pretty good if not for that bullshit.
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>>146154120
>>146153691

Iirc there is a containment general for fags like you.
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>>146154120

>You don't have to go to this fire first, you can go to that one over there

Yes, rewording what I said and putting it into a greentext isn't an argument. By definition that's what linearity is and that's exactly what Dukes Archives is on top of being outright retarded and going for "le cinematic" approach by having you forcefully killed.

>Also the other area is another area, that's like saying the great hollow is part of the Blighttown swamp

It leads to another optional area, Dukes Archives does not. That's more evidence of Dukes Archives linearity.

>I already told you, bad fps

PC port nullifies it, stop shitposting. You got exposed faggot.
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>>146154279
>>146154120
Take this to /dsg/ and stop shitting up the thread. Jesus Christ, neither of you have even mentioned Bloodborne in at least a dozen posts. Fuck off already.
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>>146154279
>It leads to another optional area, Dukes Archives does not. That's more evidence of Dukes Archives linearity
So now we're comparing Swamp to Dukes? I can play that game too and bring up Cathedral of the Deep.
Leads nowhere, only branches off for shortcuts and one really short covenant path, ext...

>PC port nullifies it, stop shitposting
Okay, are we talking about initial release or are we not?

Fuck, what were we even initially arguing about, I vaguely remember you saying DaS1 was absolute shit.
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>>146154505

Because Bloodborne is shit
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>>146154726
Then why are you even here?
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>>146154720

>So now we're comparing Swamp to Dukes?

Forget the swamps, you've completely confused me now.

Point is, you used Verticality as a positive in regards Dukes Archives yet shat on Blight Town.

That's just shit taste, shitposting or bait.

>Okay, are we talking about initial release or are we not?


PCs initial release :^).

>Fuck, what were we even initially arguing about, I vaguely remember you saying DaS1 was absolute shit.

I said DS3 > DS1
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>>146128102
>implying that the Orphan of Kos wasn't the one to grant eyes, and that Micolash wasn't wrong
That's some serious beastly idiocy you've got there, pham
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>>146154813
>PCs initial release :^)
So Prepare to Die Edition, when Wood Grain ring was patched, basically killing your PvP argument, and Artorias and Kalameet were in the game, two of the most highly regarded bosses in the franchise.

>Point is, you used Verticality as a positive in regards Dukes Archives yet shat on Blight Town
Alright, since we're talking post PC port Blighttown was good without the shitty frame rate, at the very least it would have offset the shitty swamp part... Wait, Blighttown was in DaS1 :^)
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>>146139550
>mfw Gehrman doesn't do the Make Contact gesture when you kill him
>he makes the Joy gesture
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>>146155167

>So Prepare to Die Edition, when Wood Grain ring was patched, basically killing your PvP argument,

Toggle Switch exploit, Backstab fishing, Ninja Flip Ring, Dark Bead scrubs and Falchion R1 spam is still a problem to this day. What are you even talking about?

>, and Artorias and Kalameet were in the game, two of the most highly regarded bosses in the franchise.

DLC and even with them included DS3 still has stronger bosses.

>Alright, since we're talking post PC port Blighttown was good without the shitty frame rate, at the very least it would have offset the shitty swamp part... Wait, Blighttown was in DaS1 :^)

You never said that, you said

>DaS was far from perfect and I will admit some areas like the demon ruins and Blighttown were just plain awful, but outside of those there were really no bad level designs
>but outside of those there were really no
>bad level designs
>Blighttown

You explicitly said that Blighttown was awful due to the level design.

Nice damage control tho :^)
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>went to bed at 9:30pm to fix sleeping schedule
>woke up at 3:30am
>sit up and look outside window
>full moon shining brilliantly, illuminating the shadows, beckoning me to return to Yharnam
Going to eat some midnight breakfast snack shit and play Bloodborne. Might stream if there's interest.
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>this late night shitposting
reeks of autism
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>>146155546

Shut the fuck up
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>>146155627
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>>146155627
you're cute
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>>146155240
>1452937254662.jpg

saved
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need help in lower pthumerian. glyph is "jjph" on layer 2. password is "4chanhlp"
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>>146156552
Haven't played in a very long time, but I'm bored of waiting on DaS3 summons so I'll hop on
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>>146156885
thanks :)
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The main reason I browse /bbg/ is to see pictures of the doll and maria.
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>>146157034
Np
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>>146120190
this is relevant to my interests as well
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>>146157842
I got passed it, thanks anyways anon
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>>146158025
I know, I'm the one that helped
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>>146120190
>>146157926
Heavy abyssals with either +15 damage or +5% damage vs. open foes.
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>>146157926
Probably 1 heavy abyssal and 2 27% phys up.
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>>146158065
lol i'm sorry i'm such a buffoon
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>>146120190
>>146157926
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_A9NKWIi8tBRpMFBoyiscC5CCL4qFDoNLKka0z2m1rs/edit#gid=0
If you don't mind farming for a good secondary, 2x Heavy Abyssal, 1x 27.2%. Otherwise, 1x Heavy Abyssal, 2x 27.2%.

Also, 2x Heavy Abyssal, 1x 27.2% is baaarely better than 1x. Heavy Abyssal, 2x 27.2%. Like, 10 AR assuming +15 phys secondary on all Abyssals.
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>>146158424
Np

First time I've played since last October.
Running through that first layer took longer than it should have...
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The only thing that bugged me a lot about Bloodborne is the inability to access your storage box or a at least a "lite" version of the messenger store via lamps. It would even make sense from an immersive perspective, as messengers crowd around the lamps anyway and could bring you stuff from the dream.
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>>146161309
Having sunk what must be closing on 2000 hours into this game so far, I gotta say, I fucking hate that your shit doesn't refill between deaths/loading screens. Needing to go back to the Dream every time I want to restock on consumables is bothersome to say the least.
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Does anybody have that comic about the types of BB players more or less?
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>>146158424
yes, you are
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>>146155473
go ahead, stream show the moon with the camera if you can also
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>>146162152
lt's morning already the night and the dream were long
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>>146154802
Excuse him. He spent too long sniffing paint in the general next door and had to come here to calm down.
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>>146161309
Yeah, it really annoying, there no good reason why all consumables shouldn't auto-fill from the Storage box whenever the game loads.

Continuing on this train of thought, I really don't know how how I feel about hubs and level up waifu's in these games. I love the Nexus and Hunters Dream, but it means the game never loses its "gameyness", I'm always at the very most one level away from home. In Dark Souls 1 you felt like you were actually exploring and each step into the unknown meant another step you had to take back, descending through the Lower Burg, Depths and Blighttown was terrifying because in order to go back to my NPC's and familiar territory I'd have to climb all the way out. It had some issues (God help you if you got to Ash Lake or Tomb of the Giants bonfires undeeleveled and before Lordvessal) but no warping made the experience so much more rewarding.

Personally I would have made each lamp allow you to return to the Hunters Dream, but you could only exit back to one you entered from (obviously make a few changes so you couldn't get stuck) and give a item for proper fast travel sometime after mid game. Give a reason to use the interconnectednesd/shortcuts more than when you die to boss.

Byrgonworth to Woods to Central Yharnam to Old Yharnam to Yharhagul to Cathederal Ward to Church workshop to Upper Cathederal Ward takes practically no time at all if you use every shortcut, but no one ever does or appreciates this unless they making a point since warping is more convient.
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>>146161309
The thing that annoys me more is having to warp back to hunter's dream anytime you want to go anywhere
>Go to Byrgenwerth to get summoned for Rom
>Whoops, I'm going to Moonside Lake, gotta go back and reload
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I currently have str bt build using Evilyn. How is the the bloodletter? Im loving the saif but its a skill weapon.
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>>146163435
Bloodletter's pretty good
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Steak Driver.
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>>146166941
Actually been interested in trying that weapon, any solid tips on using it to maximum effectiveness? Seems hard to land fully charged steaks
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>>146167070
dash r1
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>>146167070
Well, you use the charged attack in situations where you either know you'll get it off for sure, or if the enemy is slow/predictable. Anyone who's seen the charged attack in PvP won't fall for it twice, but you might get lucky and catch one or two unsuspecting people with it. Don't expect that often though.
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>>146167070
parry into steak slap usually works, or trading.
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>>146167070
>run
>enemy/enemies follow you
>charge attack while they're coming for you facing your back
>???
>prey slaughtered
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so i dont own bb but ive been thinking of getting it with my bro. hows the coop? is it similar to ds? or can i actually play through the game with him?
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>>146167537
>hows the coop?

non-existent
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>>146167590
figured as much
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>>146167537
You can set a password so you don't have to worry about levels.
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>>146168129
The coop is far from non-existent. You can easily play through the entire game in coop. In fact it's easier to do in BB than in DS1 because you don't have to worry about keeping your SL close. With BB you can set a password during matchmaking that eliminates the need for a close SL.
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baking bread.
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>>146169880
>>146169880
>>146169880
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