Total War General /twg/

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Here is the link to that rebbit post discussing damage calculation that someone asked for.

reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4m9sdw/how_melee_attack_and_defense_armor_and_damage/

Legendary heroes when?

Gotrek and Felix when?

Krell when?

Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonne when?

*makes the going to /gsg/ post*
*does the >playing on not-ultra post*
*posts picture of vampire chan*
*roleplays an orc*
*complains about how fantasy fags killed /twg/*
*complains about how history fags killed /twg/(?)*
*sigvalds good*
*posts a cap of dwarfs killing 7000 zombies*
*cares about GoT*
*comments on being a trve understander*
*rhetorically asks why pontus was added*
*complains about someone who posted a caps graphics quality*
*summons the elector counts*
*complains about an anime reaction image*
*posts an obscure screencap from a gunpowder /twg/ and never elaborate on context*
*responds to bait*
*responds thinking it's bait but it's just genuine autism*
*asks when tomb kings will be added*
*makes "we wuz tomb kangz" joke*
*asks what the most reddit faction is*
*declares that the hype is dead*
*asks what mod*
*radious mod*

>We'll never have another historical serie as good as Rome

>>146109128
All me ;)

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also previous thread:
>>146050315

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Old waifus

>>146109269
>80

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Hypothetically how difficult would it be to mod the warhammer campaign to be more like the older games? I'm talking unlimited armies, not needing a general, more than 4 building per city. I know most of the "mods" are just glueing CA assets together or changing a few numbers.

I have some questions about the Empire as that is the playthrough I plan to do next.

Early game should my armies be stacked of nothing but Swordsmen and Crossbows with a few Spearmen and Pistoliers? Which are more useful for holding the line, Spears or swords?

Are heavy cavalry armies worth it? Outriders and Empire Knights specifically?

Do Crossbows remain relevant through the whole game, or should I replace them with Handgunners or artillery even later.

How good is Empire artillery? I had a dwarven army the majority of units being Organ Guns and Cannons and it demolished everything I faced.

What's the general consensus on early game conquering? Take Marienburg and then Wissenland early to get early income and better arty? Or should I slog straight into Brettonia, Tilea, and Estalia?

What units are must haves, what to avoid?

Thanks.

>>146109454
pretty tough, especially when trying not to fuck the already fucked-up ai

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>>146107347
It tends to vary, with my elite handgunners and use of small units to distract the enemy so they can fire they rarely reach my lines, but when they do I kind of reach a logic gate.

>If the attack is widespread along my line, pull back the rifles and assess for a better position.

>If the attack is focused, leave the unit where it is and focus fire into that area from the remaining sides.

That tends to work. There's a reason my rifles get 200+ kills each every major battle.

>>146109269
Just like my japanese animes

>>146109174
All of them but empire and med2 are better but with mods med2 beats Rome.

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>>146110116
Was talking about the tv serie

I think the main problem with slayers is psychology immunity just isn't that valuable. Terror could probably stand to be much harsher to make it more desirable.

I have never played as actual Rome in Rome II, which house do I pick?

So when I tailor a hero like a Necromancer, Banshee, whatever for income do I have to "deploy" them near a city or can I just have them roaming around my territory assassinating shit that comes through?

I have a lvl 20 Necro that has all the appropriate income skills and a lot of traits and follower...he is deployed but I have no idea if he is doing a whole lot....

>>146109560
>Early game should my armies be stacked of nothing but Swordsmen and Crossbows with a few Spearmen and Pistoliers? Which are more useful for holding the line, Spears or swords?
Forego the pistoliers. They aren't that great. Mix up swords and spears. Swords are better at going toe-to-toe offensively with enemy troops, but spears are better at holding lines, and holing off against bigger monsters and creatures.

>Are heavy cavalry armies worth it? Outriders and Empire Knights specifically?
Not full cavalry armies, if that's what you mean. Sticking in a few units of cavlary into a standard army can make that army infinitely more adaptive. Outriders are pretty great damage dealers, but for skirmish cav they don't have Parthian shot. They're still the strongest skirmish cav in the game, and powerful units outright. Empire Knights are shadowed over by Reiksguard and Demigryphs. The latter being abusively strong. Only needing a single building that even a town can host, makes Reiksguard generally better than Empire Knights.

>Do Crossbows remain relevant through the whole game, or should I replace them with Handgunners or artillery even later.
Crossbows will be better throughout the game for taking out lightly armoured foes, as well as having the ability to shoot over your front line. Handgunners can punch through armoured and otherwise tough units, and are more versatile when fighting starts around the map, than artillery. I tend to replace my crossbowmen with handgunners though,

>How good is Empire artillery? I had a dwarven army the majority of units being Organ Guns and Cannons and it demolished everything I faced.
Mortars are good, though nothing really stood out to me other than steam tanks, which technically-

>>146110776

The skill will mention if it modifies his deploy ability. If it doesnt it's full on passive.

>>146111063
aren't even artillery, or at least aren't classified as such.

>What's the general consensus on early game conquering? Take Marienburg and then Wissenland early to get early income and better arty? Or should I slog straight into Brettonia, Tilea, and Estalia?
People attest for taking Marienburg first, though it marks you as number 1 on Skaelings hit-list. Get ready for a fight, on higher difficulties, with as many as 4 full stacks coming down on turn 20. Other than that, it mostly depends on who is willing to engage in diplomacy with you.

>What units are must haves, what to avoid?
Most of Empires units are good, or at least have roles they can fill in armies. Pistoliers will pretty much never pay for themselves no matter the situation. Demigryphs, steam tanks and greatswords, tend to be referred to as the "most broken units in the game" in that order, so take that how you will.

im gay

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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING I'm THIS fucking close to losing my shit

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>reach point where your faction is top dog
>can't be bothered to finish the campaign
It hurts. Occasionally I'll get one rival faction that either pisses me off enough I'll keep playing to finish them off, or is a legitimate threat, but 90% of the time I know how the game will end by the time I hit turn 60 or 70 and just lose interest in seeing it through.

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>try hard difficulty
>its too easy
>try very hard difficulty
>its too hard
its bullshit how everyone declare on you for no fucking reason, sometimes you dont even know you're even at war with them until they raze one of your cities

>>146112631

Go into your campaigns with the goal of finishing the campaign objectives being more important than building up your power base.

>>146112774

Either turn battle difficulty up on hard or turn it down on very hard then. Find a middle ground.

>>146112631
Happened to me earlier while playing as Egypt in Rome 2. I'm shitting money despite being at the stack cap with laughably expensive armies and all I'm fighting is eastern spearmen and low tier cav.

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>Kislev
>3 stacks fighting in Norsca
>just killed Archaeon in the siege for his capital
>get the news that norsca got eradicated and trade flows again
>prepare to clean up the rest of khorne/nurgle in the area
>suddenly Osterland who im allied with sieges my city
>immediately mobolise everything but 1 stack to run down from the end of the world to get revenge
>they fucking took Kislev by surprise
>Kislev has 18k income
>kick him out after 2 turns of occupying kislev with the garrisons from all the surrounding cities
>take his only port-city
>another army stands at Erengard and Nordland sends a stack who im neutral with
>attack the stack but oddly enough Nordland joins in on the battle and I randomly declare War on him automatically
>fuck them both up
>try to negotiate caesefire
>he wants trade and reestablish the alliance
>no interest in the southern relams so i accept

Holy fuck, allies backstabbing you is the worst, I will keep those southern towns garrisoned now.
To think that I took on all of chaos on my own for them...

>>146114309
Diplomacy in the TWE2 games is literally worthless, don't even bother.

>>146114508
TWE2 ?

>>146114508
funny story

VC campaign, i over extend, and a few stacks are retardedly out of position

fuck what do i do

>ask carl for peasu
>get money from them and peace
>get armies in position next turn
>push them into frog land

thanks dumbass

>>146114741
Total War Engine 2, the one Rome and Medieval II uses.

http://youtu.be/dnzGfG_6yws

Here's an awesome battle I had yesterday using the VC

>>146112617
what's happening anon ?

>tfw no Russo-Japanese mod for Shogun 2

>>146115329
If you want to simulate that war, just build a bunch of Ironclads and sink them on the otherside of the map.

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>>146115484
>Implying I want to play as the Russians.

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>>146115771
>>146115484

What clan should I be for my first MoS campaign?

Thinking of Tokugawa, its what I normally played in vanilla an TROM

>>146116179

play Unlimited Ashigaru Works clan

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Played multiple Empire campaigns now and I'm tired of summoning the elector counts. Who should I play next?

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>>146116423
I dunno, Oda seems too meme

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Well, would you look at that.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=707514055&searchtext=
Is it any good?

>>146116527
Vampire Counts

BRING THE NIGHT

>>146116527
Balthasar Gelt

>>146114309
Diplomacy has never been total wars strong suite, if you want that play gsg games or hope CA eventually get around to improving AI. Tw games are more about managing a nation at war anyways treaties are basically temporary things with one guy while you concentrate on conquring others. On harder difficulties it's basically pointless since they ai is basically hardcoded to hate your guts then.

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What do you name your units /twg/?

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>>146116608
Otomo or Hattori then

final offer

>>146116779
Yeah. The "issue" is that each of the AI are programmed to win, and a lot of people share win conditions, so eventually people will declare war on you because they need a province that you have. Basically, both the player and the AI need to fuck each other over in order to win. You can have staunch allies but eventually you'll probably have to betray them.

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>Watch Jon Snow get baited hard

Top kek, that part with the shields and shit reminded me of Red Cliff + The Warlords

>>146116527
I had a tonne of fun playing Chaos. Just be prepared to run halfway around the map at times.

>>146116527
Play dorfs and read all the lore about them and all their grudges. Then declare war on everyone including yourself because everyone winds up in there at one point or another. But then never expand out of your home region for 500 turns while being at war with everyone. Then go attack a single stack and destroy it. Spend another 500 turns in you single city. Repeat until you win.

>>146116779
I like paradox's warscore and rivalry/alliance systems. It seem kind of gamey but they end up working out much better than CA's shit.

>>146117064
I haven't read the books yet but are the battles, fights, and political situations actually as unbelievable and retarded as in the show? I keep wondering how almost all of the main characters haven't been lynched by a mob years ago in the setting.

>>146117018
True, but factions still also gun for you specifically on high difficulties, I've had nations send stacks chasing me no matter how bad of a idea it was for them.

I know in the old games like Rome and med 2 I basically allied and buttered up guys who didn't border me or share victory objectives but still bordered my enemies, that way you kinda stayed "out of their sights" for a wile,at leat till you became a juggernaut empire, and at that point the world is yours anyways.

>>146117538
The show diverges pretty hard from the books since about the middle of season 3. The show is essentially Radious: Game of Thrones now

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>>146117810
>The show is essentially Radious: Game of Thrones now
>Heavy House Bolton Armoured Heraldic Pike Spears (light infantry)

>>146117538
Not near as bad, political situations can get a bit dumb but nowhere near the books, for battles they are usually done well. It's even explained why tywin is able to surprises stannis at the black water and why stannis catches the wildlings unaware.

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>>146117017
Done.

Holy shit this mod.

>>146117791
Yeah, I like RPing and having my bros but in the later games my staunchest of allies betray me even though I'm not threatening them at all. I tried to be all buddy with the Greeks to start in R2 as Rome and they hated my guts and warred me anyway.

>>146117810
Kek, that's actually a good comparison.

Show itself basically went downhill after season 4 as well.

>go into legendary mode
>fight a hard uphill battle
>outmaneuver them in a rome 2 town battle
>capture the victory point
do I need to hold it for 5 minutes or some shit?
>victory screen pops up
>"ah fuck it, let's run them down for a bit"
>3 seconds later my general dies from a fucking friendly-fire sling
what a fucking world

>>146118061
>nowhere near the books

Show* I ment, sorry.

>>146118263
I have a vivid memory of playing rome 2 as massalia. I bumrushed the barbarian city I shared a province with before they could pump out stacks of levies. I had my phalanxes sprint to their town square while my skirmishers. As I was capturing the city squared I made a line of infantry at the choke point to hold off a FUCK TON of gauls. My line barely held and I got the victory screen. Pretty cheesey but the ai cheats so lul

>>146118148
Yes I actually kept allies for a long time and finished moat my short campaigns with them still there.

Impossible pretty much now, atilla is even worse than R2 in that regard, I've had factions send stacks chasing my hordes across the world while their own lands where getting razed by other ai factions.

>>146118148
how do you like the mod so far ?

i'd like to try it but I'm a scrub and I'm afraid it will be to hard for me to manage

>>146119084
I'm trying to work out what clusterfuck I should plow into. My natural enemies (Kitabatake hate me the most) are inaccessible without getting some military access. Seems to add a lot, the provinces are a bit overwhelming but it could be comfy.

>>146119302
I was playing as Chosokabe last night, and fuck. Winters are comfy as hell.

>>146110404
Terror is great though. Granted in 1v1 fights it just makes them do a mini rout earlier so that you can break them quicker but in a group fight that helps so much in causing chain routes.

>>146118664
Speaking of cheesy, people bitch about op units but I don't think anything has reached rome 1 pikemen levels yet, particularly the germania baseline spears that had it who could win the game for you, and that was a lowest teir barracks unit you could get right away anywhere.

>>146118664
Cheesiest thing I've done was in either Empire or Med2.

Empire:
>Maratha vs Mughal
>Sieging their settlement
>Run my infantry to the town hall
>Have my men take the building and use their buildings as cover before the bulk of their army gets to the centre
>Turn an attack into a defence

Med II:
>Crusading against Mongols
>Max level fortress
>Take their outer gate, try to distract their army with our cavalry
>Have a unit holding ladders take one of their inner walls
>They are mongols and have no infantry
>They are locked out of their own city and slowly die to towers

how many ranged units should I have in my empire armies? Crossbows are cheap as fuck but they only get like 20-30 kills a battle, seems like wasted slots.

>>146120440
In this commentators opinion, it depends on who you're fighting.

>>146120440
I usually have 2-4 ranged units, replacing crossbows with firearms as soon as I have them.

>>146040906
feel like i'm being memed here with how far red eye it from chaos starting area.

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>>146120914
my ass is getting weary

Is it ever a good idea to engage in a losing battle, do some damage then have your units withdraw?

I just tested a general and 3 pistoleers vs an orc hoard. I ran my horses around a bit, did some damage and even wiped out their cavalry then i told everyone to with draw. The pistoleers suffered no casualties but my general was left with 1hp on the campaign.

I'm wondering what would happen with a mass artillery army that leaves the map as soon as the enemy closes.

guys, how do I use dwarf irondrake? they are slow, short range and does not fire most of the time. How do I make them work?

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I love this game.

>>146120440
I say 4-6 is a good number for a stack, depending on if you're fielding any artillery. Crossbows and Handgunners can do a lot of damage, but they require smart positioning to not be constantly obstructed and useless in battle.

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>i won with 3 slingers who got lucky and killed the enemy general in melee
holy shit i did not deserve to win this

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>>146121910
HAHAHAHA THE ENEMY CAVALRY TRIED TO FLANK ME AND RAN HEAD FIRST INTO NINJA

>>146122064
Glad to see they finally got around to porting Rome 2 to the Gamecube.

>>146122182
they didn't. i'm playing it on my windows xp laptop my grandfather gave to me when he upgraded to a phone

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>not playing on Ultra unit-size

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>>146122170
Devastation.

>>146121560
still feels weird just walking past kislev this early into the game. ended up sacking jakove before assaulting the orcs

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>>146122870
The original suicide bomber.

>>146122976
Kislevs more trouble than it's worth. For lore purposes, you're supposed to fight them, but honestly it's a waste of manpower, when more lucrative opportunities are untapped in the mountains.

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Just started a Vampire Counts campaign and saw Mannfred's skill tree. How do you build this fucker?

Chaos plan: beeline down to dwarf city and bash them first, nip that shit right in the bud.
Any problems with my plan?

>>146124028
Some essential magic, lightning strike if you want it, then full melee monster.

>>146124402
>mountain passes narrow as fuck
>multiple walled settlements blocking the narrow passes
Is getting caught part of your plan? It's not a bad one though.

Are etheral units good?
Also when building armies should i make one with top tier troops and weaker one or balance them?

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>>146117064
>tfw Ramsey is the greatest military ruler of the show

Won the lineal championship from Stannis, then almost destroyed Jon and the Snows before Sansa cheated with reinforcements.

Liked that we finally got a proper battle from GoT. They've been pussyfooting too long.

Shame its going to be Dragons, Fire and Zombies from now on.

>>146124872
on normal you can make anything work
ehtereal units are near indestructible against non elite/non magical units
banshees are the strongest fighter hero in the game

>>146124872
They're good at some things, not so much at others.
Army composition depends on what you intend to use them for. Both approaches work well in different circumstances.

>>146124028
This is what I like:
-unit replentishment and something else so you can get lightning strike
- four death spells so you can get Bjuna, Doom and Darkness is real nice during sieges
- Raise Dead, the passive for when you cast, and Gaze of Nagash are good, Gaze doesn't really become viable until after you get the dragon, so you might hold off
- the rest can go into melee stuff, prolly want melee defense instead of armor
- don't bother with the lore master stuff

>>146125074
What about hard or higher?

>>146125229
gets tougher because of the bonuses and the massive stacks
you have to cheese with OP units on harder difficulties (crypt horrors/ terrorgheist/vargheist and graveguard)

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>>146124028
here's how I built him in my legendary campaign. he only ended up at level 15 by the end because I started with heimrich, and I mostly only got him in for crucial battles

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>>146124028
keep adding hero assassination skill his tree and have him kill heroes like balthesar gelt

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>>146124710
What if I do this?

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>still no patch
>still no dlc besides chaos

CA you shits, get it out before i completely lose interest in the game

>>146125954
You'll have to get past Bechafen, and there are two major rivers in Ostermark and Stirland-Averland that you'll have to force march across, but otherwise you should be golden. Travelling mountainous regions without underway stance is far far more tedious. It also helps that if the Empire gets too strong you can just swoop in from wherever you are and make for Reikland, as opposed to having to disentangle yourself from the mountains.

>>146125954
>>146124402
I foresee Talabecland inviting the Greenskins to join war with you, then Dwarves inviting vampire counts, then empire inviting Mousillon and Top Knotz, and all of them approaching stacks out of the fog precisely as you venture too far away from the chaos wastes to escape, but too far away yet from Karaz-a-karak to push through to safety before the doomstacks surround you.

>>146126461
Well, it's a good thing that you have forced march stance and didn't install that 10% movement boost mod then.

Take a page from Surtha Ek, and yakety sax indefinitely while sacking minor settlements along the way.

>>146126461
nigga what

why the fuck would you give a fuck about 90% of the factions you mentioned? greenskins will most likely do nothing but help you with dwarves, talabecland is literally as irrelevant to this guys path as it gets, and moussilon has to fight bretonnia before they do jack shit. bretonnia dying is a win-condition as well, so why the fuck would they be a threat?

the thing with chaos is that you want to get people to run away from you, and the moment they start gathering at the ede of your vision or whatever, you bail out. it's almost impossible to die, no matter how big of an asshole you are diplomatically, as long as you watch the map

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

Dung Covered Doom Divers

Would have a poison effect to their impact explosion

y/n?

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I'll have this thread.

>>146128146
The dung would slough off due to the velocity at which they are catapulted

>>146127406
Because they're all going to ignore each other and their own campaign conditions literally the second archaon steps out of Goromandy Mountains, and beeline 2 stacks per owned village straight through each others' lands in a perfect interception path to remove the player from the game. They will wait literally out of his sight in the fog of war, dancing armies just out of retaliation range but always leaving him wondering what's on his flanks, until he reaches the perfect point along his journey where the AI decides its ready and has six factions coordinate an ambush that triggers on its turn, not the player's.

>>146128221
Feed them poisonous mushrooms right before they launch. so that by the time they reach their targets the goblins are pissing, shitting and vomiting all over the place.

>>146128452
Now this is an idea. Perhaps the violent defecation could give them a slight boost to range too.

>>146128503
>shit rocket guided missile doom diver goblins

>>146125051
Jon would be one of this total war generals with 0 command stars but a fucking overpowered General's Bodyguard unit

Ramsey is fucking great. 10/10 command stars

>>146128351
ok nice fan fiction. chaos was my first vh win, and then my first legendary win. sounds like you're making shit up

>>146128967
overpowered generals traits and no command traits is how i build all my generals

>>146128214
Edgelords not allowed

>>146129078
Me too, because I know my commanding is sufficient enough that I just need some kickass guys to fuck over the enemy.

>>146129078
I used to do this back in Shogun 2, I remember my top generals all had extra bodyguards and insane melee skills that I never used.

I feel less embarassed when I think of my old myspace page than I do about this.

>>146129251
Archaeon is pretty kawaii once you get to know him

What is the ugliest thing in any total war game and why is it all of rome 2's color scheme?

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>>146129251

>>146126338
Don't pretend. The moment DLC comes out you'll come back no matter how long it takes.

Slut

>>146109128
>asks what the most reddit faction is

I finally did it, I became a living meme

>>146129515
Whut.
Have you even seen Attila? or Med2?

>>146129762
This is truly the greatest thing a person can accomplish in life. Congratulations, Anon. I hope I can become one too someday.

>>146129909
Thanks dude, I'm a NEET with no claim to fame, my advice for aspiring meme-knights is to persist, I got up in the cold EVERY day to say, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN MY NAME IS TOTALBISCUIT AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ONE SIMPLE QUESTION WTF IS THE MOST REDDIT WARHAMMER FACTION

>>146130131
i used to be a meme... probably am still, but i don't want to go back to those dark days...

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>>146108868
Beastmen rape and pillage when ?

>>146130542
>rape and pillage

You mean shit and rape. Then shit some more.

>>146109012
Well. That completely fucking destroys most peoples theories and beliefs about how combat works.

>>146130621

It's Orcs&Goblins that shit.

Beastmen rape, kill and pillage, not necessarily in that order.

How do I build a VC general?

Should I put points that raise his leadership and aura size? I like getting stuck in with the zombie boyz, so my leadership should stop far reaching zombies from crumbling.

>-40 public order
>bandits teleport behind me with gold chevron units on turn 3
>defeat them
>come back with even more eilite units all with gold chevrons
>ally unallies me
>kill them all
>another ally wages war
>two full stacks waiting in the forests for me to take his main city
>he goes and sacks my two hard-earned towns
>runs like a bat out of hell into the mountains and doesn't take any attrition
>my agent who excels at poisoning get's wounded off a 2% chance
>game crashes
what a wild ride

>>146131832
someone post the beastman fluff where he shits, like, 3 times all over somebodies house

>>146131832
what do they rape and how?

>>146131832
Beastmen having a thing for smearing shit on anything civilized is a part of the lore.

>>146132113
they rape human and wood elf girls by using their animal penises

>>146132113

they rape all the pussy, even the boypussy

>grudge thrower hits a siege tower 5 times
>doesn't do any damage

COME ON

>hardly a fucking peep out of CA since release
Im getting worried something went wrong, like they didnt even get near the sales they wanted

It did only make 700k sales as their 'biggest game ever' and Rome 2 broke a million and was their absolute worse

>>146132798
>warhammer sales weren't good enough
>SEGA shuts down CA
>now CA is history
>the history fags have finally won

http://steamspy.com/app/364360
Playtime in the last 2 weeks: 19:40 (average) 11:02 (median)
Playtime total: 37:01 (average) 25:13 (median)
Good lord what
How many people bought this game and never played it

>>146132263
>>146132274
Is this how new beastmen are made?

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>>146133179
I bought it the first week it came out, but wasn't able to play it until this past weekend because I was busy with work. I fucking hate Norsca shits, I can't burn these fuckers houses down fast enough.

>>146133179
>steamspy
>>146133414
female beastmen

>>146133179
I played about 80 hours, but I'm waiting either for some patches, DLC or excellent mods before I fully commit.

>>146133149
if we dont get all the races im going to be heartbroken

>>146133556
>beastmen
>men
>female beastmen
>female men
check your fucking privledge shitlord i bet you're from averland you leftest pig

>>146132798
Rome 2 broke a million in sales several months after release. It hasn't even been a month since TWW was released.

>>146133631
>Tomb Kinds will NEVER EVER be announced

>>146134071
Fuck that, Tomb Kings are my role model. I can't wait to die so I can be a skeleton too.

getae or odrysian kingdoms

>>146134175
why not speed up the process haha

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MAN THE dwarf faction is so unfun lategame. I'm slowly losing holds against chaos and all I can think of is how annoying its going to be before I can get the fucks due to slow moving armies (as all my armies were still in the badlands eradicating beornlings and the last orcs.

is there really a better composition for dwarves that arent massed ironbreakers+quarrelers + a cannon or 3?

seems all other siege weps/longbeards/slayers/irondrakes are underwhelming.

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>>146134756
Everyone says Grimgor a tough guy, but all I ever see is him run like a bitch

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>archaon leading his chaos hordes with lord of cheese on his side
>about to attack essen
>empire (karl franz) only has 2 settlements left, altdorf and essen
>I (dwarf) alive just in time with my 2nd army
>I stay near the essen settlement (which has decent guardhouse upgrade) so the empire could join me in battle
>archaon, lord of change attacks anyway
>is me, my other army, empire army vs 2 chaos army
>I put my defenses near where my reinforcement came
>archaon and lord of change's army are so far apart that they had to unite in the middle of the map
>they tried to attack me but my thunderer, organ gun and ironbreaker's satchel charges breaks them apart
>the empire army end up flanking them from behind, shooting their heavy armored chaos warrior, chosen with hand gunner while also taking out the 2 hellcannon in the back with their knights

and that's how I defeated archaon with dwarf

>>146133414
No, those anons are lying, GW is grim dark but even they won't have a beast race that reproduces by raping humanoid races females, that's just asking for trouble from femnazi ' s.

In the lore the reproduce with docile female beastmen, also due to the influence of chaos, some children born to human parnets are corrupted and become beastmen. The parents are supposed to kill them but most can't bring themselves to do it and leave the kids at the edge of the forest to be adopted by the nearest beastmen tribe.

>>146133623
Same, I just can't commit to a game till its een patched a bit for fear of major changes on the middle of my campaigns.

>its a level one hero kills hundreds of your troops lead by a level 20 general on the campaign map episode

>>146135596
>tfw facing off against jedi generals in MTW 1

Fuck, those were the days

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>>146134071
>>146134175
>Tomb kangz still not announced

How are the vampire agents? I know necromancers are just moneymancers and banshees are good assassins, but what about the others? How are they in combat, etc.

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>>146135442
>GW is grim dark but even they won't have a beast race that reproduces by raping humanoid races females
Do a quick google search for "Fimir", I'll wait.
Fimir will never be announced.

>>146135760
Wight Kings are the combat hero for the vamps, once you get into the second tier of the blue tree they buff recruited units experience levels. Vampire waifus are good if you want access to the lore of death outside of Mannfred and can be ok in combat too.

>>146135760
Vampire chan is qt

>>146135714

Man, I miss the Med2 pre-battle inspirational speeches.

>>146135760
>moneymancers
>10% boost in income
>at most a city will make 2k
>cost 300 upkeep

good deal. I just use them to spread corruption

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>Grimgor on wyvern
>123 speed and 869+ weapon strength

Nothing is safe.

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Are melee units worth it in Empire Darthmod?

>>146136441
Ah, so this is what nightmares look like.

>>146136310
>15% boost
>Eastern Sylvania can go well over 3k
>all the Empire provinces with 3 towns

At least one is mandatory

>>146136310
>up to 30% off buildings
>15% boost in income
if you didn't want to save 5k off the top tier necromancer buildings it's fine...

>>146136518
If you can actually get them into combat with most line inf they'll wreck the line inf, but if your enemy is half decent they'll get shot to shit before they can hit the enemy line.

>>146136736
It only affects the region, not the whole province.

>>146136686
shut it ya gitz, all I've need iz my 'ust worzy gitsnik n gork inside me to stump all da gitz in da world WAAARGH!!

>>146136441
black orcs are like spartans. they would never ride a mount you modding git

>A few years before Pyrrhus crossed over into Italy the Romans had suffered a crushing defeat at Arretium at the hands of the Gauls, but in the very next year they had mobilized another army and inflicted an equally crushing defeat upon the Gauls and Etruscans at Lake Vadimon, and followed up this success by expelling the Senones from the Ager Gallicus.

See? AI factions producing a fullstack 2 turns after you crush their main stacks is completely legitimate and historical. :^)

>>146136834
Why does it say 'Local Province' then?

God damn it CA.

>>146136686
he loses quite a bit of melee attack and defense for being on the wyvern, but he also has a yellow tree skill I can put three points into for 18 melee attack so he'll be right back to hitting and killing everything he looks at soon enough. The defense isn't a bad trade imo since he can fuck off out of combat whenever he pleases.

>>146136976
>not seeing the value of reaching and krumping your enemies even faster

Dis git's got too much Gork 'n not nuff MORK in 'is 'ead

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What the fuck is the point of this?

>>146136105
Same, those where great, especially how traits and their dread/chiv rating would affect them.

I enjoy every tw game but despite their problems the best times I had with the series was Med 1 and VI, rome 1& BI and med 2.

>>146137573
I think they forgot to add a 0 to all the growth traits. There are a few things that only add 1 or 2 growth when they should add 10 or 20.

>>146137147
The roman military machine was one of the best for its era but I still find it hilarious how pre-marian reforms most their greatest triumphs was simply taking losses that would destroy other nations and eventual winning in the end, especially in the case of the punic wars.

>>146138079
Out breeding your enemy is the strongest tactic which is why muslims and africans are taking over europe.

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>>146128967
I just had to make this to commemorate his valiant stupidity.

>>146139194
>Out of Control, Berserking

>>146139194
If it hadn't been for salsa and her sekrit army that literally performs a teloports behind u on ramsay then his idiotic ride towards ramsay would've gotten his entire army killed as it was forced to follow him.

He even takes time to explain to Tormund what a pincer is because wildlings charge head on and that it should be avoided, then he does it himself.

He makes a good berserker though.

>>146136441
Oi you gitz, wut if we took a bunch o em giants and we nail em all together, and en we built a big metal fort ting dat those gitz move around. We getz a lot of em and den we make a big giant orc, we give it a big choppa and den doz gobbz can shoot em stunties full of arrers, we can get a bunch o giants and boyz to swing da armz and stuff, and en', now listen to this boss. We go catch one of em dragons and put it in da mouthy bitz so it shoots flames and stuff. So den we have a giant movin fortress to gork an mork and we can stomp da world flat.

>>146139465
dat's summa da dumb'nest tings i ever 'erd

>>146139617
Uz da dumb'nest ting I ever seen ya grot

>>146138227
And why blacks and Mexicans are taking over America sadly as well, but when your average western white family has like 1 or 2 kids maybe 3 if your lucky and immigrant and minority families are pumping them out by the half dozen or more it's hard to keep up.

>>146139465
Waaaaaggggghhhhh!!!

How much did they end up changing Rome 2? I've had it since it came out but never finished the one campaign I started because it was so lackluster. Is it worth a shit now?

Are goblin units ever worth using?

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>>146135104

>>146142414
In campaigns they're cheap filler so you can build waaghs and they only take 1 turn to build but so do boyz (gotta have 18 units to be able to make a waagh).

In battle they're slightly faster than boyz and they have larger unit numbers, dont know how their stikkas affect matchups. i always like to have some in my army just because i like their voice acting and even though they rout easy they're usually able to run back in or chase down routed units

>>146139840
Blacks have been stagnant for a long time and will continue to be, it's mostly the mexicans.

POST HAMMER AND ANVIL

>>146110404
>I think the main problem with slayers is psychology immunity just isn't that valuable. Terror could probably stand to be much harsher to make it more desirable.

I've been testing slayers and they're pretty damn good, much better than people seem to think. They hit as hard as hammerers, die faster though, BUT they actually move at a pace that allows them to flank. I got my slayers late game, at turn 118 but they are now vital to me as I keep 4 units in all my armies and they are the bread and butter of my melee damage. Not to mention, they're cheaper than hammerers, and you can get them earlier than Hammerers if you know what you are doing.

This is my experience with them and knowing what I know now, I would have rushed the slayer king faster, gotten a thane faster AND picked infantry buffs to the slayers to make them a neigh unstoppable force.

>>146110404
The main problem with slayers is that they die faster than deal damage.

Do you guys tell quarrellers to shoot at the enemy infantry after they're engaged with yours? I usually leave it on fire at will but their view gets obstructed. I can force them to shoot at the infantry but I'm not sure if it's a good idea considering the friendly fire.

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What does /twg/ think about HEMA? Historical European Martial Arts, that is.

Entirely pointless, neat but ultimately fruitless aside from exercise or straight up good shit?

What series should I re-read first. Gaunt's ghosts, malus darkblade, or gotrek and felix?

>>146145531
Excellent for sport, tradition, and cultural preservation.

And there is indeed a point, you use it to score with, har har.

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what the fuck am I supposed to do here?
I can lightning strike one of them and win, but then they just siege me the next turn and my units wont heal

not to mention that fucker sigvald and another stack are razing all my settlements down south
never played on very hard before but how are you supposed to deal with 6 chaos stacks attacking you on different parts of the map

not to mention the fucking vargs

>>146145531
fedora as fuck

>>146144306

I've agreed with this for a while now, but I usually never speak up because people usually just go immediately for the HURRRRR YOU ARE RETARDED response because they die fast.

Yeah, they die fast. But they will have killed 1 - 2 full units by the time one unit dies, if used correctly. Along with, if used in Ungrim's army, they're cheap as fuck for what they bring.

>tfw losing chaos campaign on hard.

Which game did cavalry right?

>>146141793
Not really, bugs have all pretty much been fixed but it's still pretty lack luster and still basically pikes part 2:electric bogaloo

>>146148047
Shogun 2 and Attila

>>146145295
Probably not a good idea if you're shooting from behind your own line as you'll be hitting them in the back. If there are no enemy skirmishers or flanking forces to be afraid of, you should probably try outflanking the enemy with your skirmishers. You`ll deal more damage from behind, have much better accuracy and won't hit your own troops nearly as often. You can also charge into the enemies' backs for that extra morale shock.

>>146148047
Med 1, after that they've been either completely op (rome 1, med 2, warhammer) kinda op still (atilla) or like Rome 2 were they would be ok if they didn't take so many losses pulling out of a enemy unit.

It's hard to make cav work like it did in real life though since it's hard to work in horses that don't simply act like a robot mount.

>>146148653
In Attila they get slaughtered when cycle charging.

>>146148047
I'd say Shogun 2 and Warhammer although the charges are a bit over the top

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>have army stationed in a city
>enemy army passes it and takes the city behind it
>crush them in that city
rinse fucking repeat
why is CA AI not only absolutely retarded, but also the most irritating thing in the world
seriously winning is easy as fuck unless they get massive cheat bonuses and the AI isn't even focused on winning the game
fuck CA
fuck total war campaign AI and the bullshit they get away with

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>getting loot is a big part of the campaign
>non of the loot changes the appearance of your LL
>no shogun 2 like multiplayer conquest
>no online legendary lord customization
>NO ARMY PAINTER
>NO C H A O S
holy shit what were they thinking.

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Why ate the Brettonians such a meme faction holy shit

They literally can't do anything but die

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>>146149724

>>146149274
Wait.

You're complaining that the AI didn't attack a heavily fortified city and instead took the weaker one?

Huh

>>146134756

That's because the Copter units are clearly meant to be late game and add to what the dwarves clearly lack in mobility and flanking, however, they are so shit, you're better off making explosive miners to try and flank instead.

They do more damage and cause more terror for weak infantry units.

>>146149803
yeah and proceeded to get their army crushed
I don't care about dirty tactics
I'm just not so happy about cheesy bullshit for the sake of cheesy bullshit without it making any sense
the AI is dumber than a bag of bricks

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>>146147389

>Complains about losing to sheer numbers
>Sitting on 20k gold

You should only have as much gold on hand as you need to create higher tiered buildings, everything else should be focused on your armies.

>>146147389
retreat.

>>146147718
>Yeah, they die fast. But they will have killed 1 - 2 full units by the time one unit dies, if used correctly. Along with, if used in Ungrim's army, they're cheap as fuck for what they bring.

I wouldn't use them against players, they're too smart to ignore the twin axe dwarves chopping at their backs. But for the campaign, it's something to think about if you haven't played Dwarf yet or for future DLC.

>He didn't launch an expedition to destroy the vargs

Lol

>>146149274
It really is sad, I never feel like the AI has actual war goals or a plan to roll back my borders, it's just pumping out a stack to go into my lands and bother me or hinder my progress in any way it can. I don't know if I've just been noticing it the longer I've played the series, but I didn't notice this level of cheese before the Rome 2 age.

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>>146151052
BRETONNIA WHEN?
inb4 tomorrow

NEW STUFF FUCKING WHEN
>inb4 tomorrow
>inb4 next week

>>146151727
thursday, friday or next week maybe later even, but then WH will be semi-dead

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Is the warhammer game worth 60 eurobucks? tempted to buy it desu.

>>146151727

tonight

>>146151693
How is this even allowed to happen? Why? What is a Norscan warlord doing atop a lighthouse in L'Anguille? Shouldn't he be down by the longships, or raiding the town with the rest of his army? Why is there a single knight up there dealing with this shit when there should be a squad surrounding the giant and hacking at his calves from behind? How was this battle allowed to go on for a full night and day without any intervention? Why the fuck are the longships still here, who the fuck launches a lightning raid from sea then decides to just stay and fight a pitched battle across the city for a full day?

>>146152119
>How is this even allowed to happen?
IT'S WARHAMMER!!!
>Why?
BECAUSE IT'S COOL!!!

>>146152089
It is

>>146152089
It was worth it with chaos dlc but now... I don't know...

>>146152119
>Interrupting a one on one duel in Brettonia

Sou dss like you want to get taxed
Then executed
Then have your family taxed to bury you
Then they get imprisoned for not paying the tax

>>146134756
Make sure Zhufbar and Karak Kadrin are alive, don't confederate, they will serve as meatshields against Chaos/Vamps. There are like 3 ways to the mountain (Black Fire Pass and two bordering Sylvania). Put your armies here and just kill any Chaos shit that tries to pass. Let the umgi deal with the main force.

>>146152089
Find yourself a better deal matey, I found my copy+chaos online for just 44 schmeckles. Or wait for some more content, the game is a little unpolished.

>>146152119
Blood for the Blood God
Skulls for the Skull Throne

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Anyone have any luck with bigger unit size mods, or do they completely glitch up or break the balance?

>>146152119
It's Brethonian propaganda piece, boosting their faith in muh lady, chivalry and shit.

>>146152089

I love it. When I bought it, I put 48hrs into it in one week and I played it past bed time. Last RTS that I played was Shogun 2 in 2011 and this is better than it by a large margin.

If this is your first RTS that isn't Starcraft, then you'll need some tips. Youtube the races and basic tips like in the Op to get you started. I didn't even know there was a pause button until I was 60+ turns into my campaign.

I needed it badly cause with everything set to low, I'm running sub 30FPS on my 6950gpu.

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>>146151693
>Wanting a bigger meme faction than CDwarfs

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I only just found out about the monk incite + metsuke bribe combo. This is fucking hilarious.

>>146152573
6950 represent. have you tried much multiplayer? I get this weird slowdown in 2v2 and higher battles, my fps apparently stays at a reasonable 20~ but it's as if the game is set to halfspeed.

this game is making me really want a new gpu.

>>146151727
>>146151693
in two weeks. Give or take a few days.

>>146151693
this does look like some bret bullshit. That norscan is clearly about to smash Marcus' head in with those fuck huge hammers.

>>146152573

This guy is very good at explaining the basics of the game, in a slower and more "noob-friendly" manner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dQ-y4Xomdw&list=PLwVftHdWAdHNOJ-PMquSZMVVAGWIq2TVQ

Not shilling, just think he's a good guy for not assuming people played the previous installments.

>>146152561
This feels like the only logical explanation. That being said, I get just how pants-on-head retarded Bretonnians can be in-universe, so I could also see this being an actual thing.

What I still don't get is why the Norscan put himself in this situation. The knight is probably having an orgasm because MUH LADY can admire his skills from up there, but what the fuck does the warlord have to gain by climbing the lighthouse?

>>146153003
A signal had to be lighted for the rest of the fleet and he lead the expedition himself or something like that, you really need more imagination

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>>146152797
>this game is making me really want a new gpu.

I looked this up cause I was hitting less than 20FPS too and I found out the reason why. AMD abandoned support for the 6950 and we are left without drivers so we're missing the extra gains we "could" have gotten.

Yup, our card is so old now that they don't even make drivers for it. It's only a 5 year old card too. This isn't the first current gen game I've played either and with other game, I can still hit 60FPS with medium to low settings.

>>146133179
topkek m80

i got 45 hours out of it in the first week

i need help

>>146152089
summer sales are just around the corner

>>146139194
kekd

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Daily reminder Isabella, Panther knights, Wood elves, beastmen and skaven are more or less in the files

Chaos knights or trolls?

Whats the best way to deal with dwarfs in the early game as Orcs?

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I love capturing Kaga/Sagami. Making Ashigaru able to outdamage katana samurai is hilarious.

>>146154050
>Matsuda still alive

>>146154012
boar boys

>>146154142

They became vassals for Takeda, for whatever reason. Takeda's been going on a coastal rampage while I've waited for realm divide so I could remove Takeda one province at a time from behind.

Am I just autistic or is the orc start really fucking hard? Orc boyz and gobs seem so fucking worthless. Everything routs immediately after doing no damage. I get rekt against stunties with warriors and take heavy losses against other orcs.

Vamp and stuntie campaign was piss easy compared to this. Playing on very hard btw.

>>146153206
They had a beta driver with the crimson software which I downloaded immediately after first installing warhammer cause it was crazy slow. Thinking I might revert back to the old stable drivers though.

Generally the games fine and i can deal with shitty 20~ fps as long as it's playable, but multiplayer 2v2s and higher are near unplayable for me. Wondering if it's shitty netcode, other players or my gfx card or my australian ping but i didnt think ping would matter too much in total war

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Shiiiet, never seen this until one.

>Dark Elves still not announced

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Is there a way that if you have 2 generals in an army, in Shogun 2, that they both get XP? Or do I have to keep splitting them up and level them up individually? Even if I don't auto-resolve, my second general doesn't seem to get any XP unless I put him on his own stack out in the campaign map and he reinforces.

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>>146112631
>tfw the AI rebuilds Alexanders empire for an amazing end game show down.
Too bad this kind of stuff only seems to happen with some sort of regularity in Rome/Med II. Warhammer seems a little better though.

>>146154676
The one actually leading the army gets way more exp, you better split them up

>>146116985
For The Empire, I name my units after their province of origin (e.g. 1st Untergard Rifles), their accomplishments (1st "Corpse Cutter" Swords), and the captains they fight with (Schiller's Swords).

For Dwarfs, it's specifically based on achievements such as the "Gateholder Throng" or the "Daemon Slayers"

For Vampires, units are named based on achievements and which army they were raised from (e.g. Revenants of Stirland or The Abomination of Wurtbad)

For Greenskins, units are named on achievements second and who's led them first (e.g. Gorgutz' 'ead Smasherz or Da Burner Basherz).

>>146154172
Will give it ago, thanks!

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>>146155091
>For The Empire, I name my units after their province of origin (e.g. 1st Untergard Rifles), their accomplishments (1st "Corpse Cutter" Swords), and the captains they fight with (Schiller's Swords).

That makes no sense in the way you've written it.

>>146154676

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?548437-General-Experience-Gains-(Shogun-2-ROTS-FOTS)

DL link on the last page

>>146155514
Yes it does. I'd like to hear your reasoning about why it doesn't. The lore has examples of all three of those.

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>>146155554

I mean that as in, your way of explaining it makes no sense.
>immediately jumps to lore as a shield when it's unrelated

I'm fucking dying.

Storm clouds gather over Europe.
Mistrust and rivalries between realms threaten to break and flood he world in a tide of Total War

>>146155614
I thought you were criticising the methods of naming units, which are based on the lore, using it as a shield when it's the most valid reason isn't something worth laughing at.

How have I explained it wrong?

>>146132068
I use vamps as dedicated melee badasses and necromancers as pussy as warlocks who stand in the back

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>>146155091
>or the "Daemon Slayers"

Too bad there's no daemons in the game, numnuts.

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>>146155752
Being rude doesn't make you look any more correct, only more of an arsehole.

>Too bad there's no daemons in the game, numnuts.

Yes there is.

What else have I done wrong?

>>146155640
always loved his voice, still do

>>146155676
not him but the way you said it it sounds weird. So what you'r greatswords are called Karl Franz 1st Altdorf, greenskin slayer Greatswords?

>>146155878
>So what you'r greatswords are called Karl Franz 1st Altdorf

No, Karl Franz isn't a captain. Keeping the province and regiment name only makes sense when they have a nickname, not named after a captain. Like my post suggests having only one name per unit makes more sense.

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>Warhammer total war dream game
>didn't play total war for 4 months in anticipation
>play 70 hours ONE chaos campaign and some messing about with other factions.
>burnt out

Makes no fucking sense I've put 70 hours into Napoleon campaigns before. There's monsters and magic and shit yet it can't hold my attention.

>>146155947
yeah I figured. it's just it could be intepreted that way.

anyway I like how you do it. might copy it. could be fun to see which units survives the campaign. (playing Legendary)

>>146153206
>>146154546
wtf, I'm using a 6950 2gb, i5 2500k and 8gig ram, 5 year old comp, doing fine.

I haven't counted frames anywhere, but it's amazingly smooth with all medium and high textures, I've done multiplayer 3v3 without any noticeable lag, maybe had 20 fps around the time but still all medium and some high.

Haven't updated my drivers in about a year now.

A tip is to turn of anti aliasing and all that bs, that's the first I did when playing and after that it became another game.

>>146155968
Because it's exaggerated, it's pampered trash, there's no mass, substance real suffering to connect to.

Napoleon era europe is gritty, a real historical war, fought en masse between normal men just like you and me who just wanted to earn wages for their families.

Then there is the matter of the napoleon naval battles being arguably the most entertaining in all of total war.

>>146156046
Thanks friend.

Using all three naming conventions for the Empire wouldn't actually work in game anyway, since there's a character limit, I was kind of assuming that they guy I was replying to had some understanding of that, so I apologise for that.

>>146155968
it's a good game but a bit lackluster. I'm still into it but I think you'll like it more when there's more content

>>146155968
I'm having fun with it especially with my friends in multiplayer, but I also play other stuff, it helps.
Also we need more content

>>146156096
>wouldn't actually work in game anyway, since there's a character limit
oh yeah can't believe I didn't think of that aswell.

well I think he though you had a bit of radious naming syndrome

>>146156194
It's ok, we all make mistakes. I can understand where some confusion came from to people that don't name regiments too often.

>>146156091
I guess blood and gore might help but the campaign feels so determined like you are watching a chess game unfold whereas in other games all kinds of crazy shit happens. The combat is so insubstantive too, shit doesn't hold for more than 30 seconds and the lines break into a mess of routing and rallying men.

>1 month since release
>No new content
>no patches
>nothing
CA confirmed to have dropped development.
Im getting scared this might be true guis

>>146156310
It's not true, they've said a patch is on the way, plus all the trilogy promises.

>>146156310
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE REEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>146156310

We're just off the E3 bandwagon, the entire gaming industry is currently in a standstill outside of E3 news. Give it another week or so and everything should be going back to normal.

>>146156310
Considering Games Workshop is involved and this is a franchise they recently killed off they might be trying to kill this game off.

No, really.

They could have had a contract stating that CA were allowed to finish the game and release it, but after that it's done and Games Workshop won't allow them to continue making Warhammer Fantasy products.

If you think this is crazy you clearly weren't into Warhammer Fantasy table top. This is the greatest reason why I pre ordered this game

>>146156539
Why does GW hate money?

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>>146156539
>They could have had a contract stating that CA were allowed to finish the game and release it, but after that it's done and Games Workshop won't allow them to continue making Warhammer Fantasy products.

I don't think you know how the game industry works, anon.

>>146156502
yes all those programmers having to attend to a conference for journalists and marketing people

>>146156619
Neither does Games Workshop.

>>146156310
The game isn't being shat on like R2 so they assume they can be lazy with updates

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Well guys look who's back.

Been having a blast with Warhammer but now I've tried every faction and since I'm sick today I'm gonna try to finish my now 2 year old Holy Roman Empire campaign

When I last played I got invaded by the timurids who I though weren't in the SS mod as an invasion since you get a teutonic order invasion aswell. Don't know where I got that idea from but because of that Timur the Lame kinda caught me offguard after I had moved my armies west.
He's now taken over the old golden Horde settlements and I will try to hold him off whilst the Legions march full speed to stop Horsefucker invasion 2.0 (now with elephants)

Getting kinda worried since I only have 207 turns left and I still need to......unite the Roman empire by removing Greek pretenders

>>146156310
Most popular total war game in years/ever.

Maybe they toned back their dlc plans after backlash from prior games?
Or the development of warhams was a difficult one?

This is gonna have dlc out the ass dont you worry. We'll all be crying about getting jewed soon enough.

GIMME THAT FUCKIN DLC THO CA

>>146156265
Pretty much, in Warhammer you watch a rainbow coloured assortment of fantasy elements kill each others in 10 seconds, in Napoleon you can have 40 minute battles of relatable people killing each others with bayonets or shot, getting mangled by cannonballs and explosions at the same time.

>>146156310
>realease patch early
>HURR BROKEN GAME ON LAUNCH

>release content early
>HURR LE JEWTS

>wait before releasing anything
>HURR DEAD GAME

I really admire game devs that keep working with communities like these, if they really had no passion they'd have stopped a long time ago

>>146156310
It sold well, CA have spent 3 years or so on this release so they probably expect vanilla to keep people going for a while. We don't know what the state of affairs was before release either in terms of how much development the DLCs and blood packs had already gotten. They aren't really in a rush between now and next May for the expansion. a DLC in September, December and February is optimistic.

>>146156667
>Expecting us to remember a campaign from two years ago.
>When we get dozens every week.

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>>146156619
>I don't think you know how the game industry works, anon.

I don't think you know how Games Workshop works, anon.

>>146155640
>immediately shows a unit of feudal knights marching like bosses.

WHERE ARE MY FUCKING WOOD AELFS CA?WHERE?

>>146156625

Releasing a patch for a big game like a Total War game, implies it's going to be on plenty of news sites. Which means community managers, and primary devs are going to be gone because they are at E3 - and they are the people responsible for writing up patch-notes and handing them off to news sites so that the game can generate more interest.
They had a stand at E3 after all, they just weren't on the scene.

If you think they're going to be throwing out patches willy-nilly without any intervention from the higher-ups, and the community managers to monitor the forums post-release, you need to learn how a patching process works.

>>146156617
reverse jews

>>146156782
hey 1 guy asked me about it a few weeks ago.

no problem I actually kinda like documenting it. never done it before and it's nice to look back on just for my self

also I started it 2 years ago. I last played it up until a few months before Warhammer came out

>>146156873
Based

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GOTREK & FELIX DLC WHEN

>>146156935
so is Gotrek basically viewed as shit in Dorf society since he hasn't died yet?

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>Tileacucks

>>146157027
Yep, he's the worst slayer in dwarfen history, but also one of the greatest warriors in the world.

>people really not expecting dlcs
It's SEGA and GW guys, you can bet your ass there WILL be DLCs. If they manage to put DLCs in fucking Persona TW can't escape them

>>146156648
>>146156815

Games Workshop has a creative say, and that's it. Once Sega acquired the Warhammer Fantasy license, they are ultimately the ones in charge. Games Workshop can complain about it, sure, but once the license was bought by Sega - Sega has final say in the development process, and publishing process.

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Complete newfag to Total War in general, but I love the idea of ancient combat, and wanna start with modded Rome II and Medieval II. Any good tips for battle tactics?

Also, apparently you're supposed to put your archer units on the front. Why is that? What's a good time to rotate infantry around? And should I get a crash course in battlefield history before playing or is it easy enough to pick up as I go?

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>>146157027

He's the most famous Slayer in the old world, senpai

Considering his ridiculously legendary feats

>Killed so many things he ran out of things to slay and they had to stop using '------slayer' in his book titles for a while
>Constantly giving a middle finger to the chaos gods and spoiling every plan they try to put in motion
>Causing Grey Seer Thanquol countless losses and headaches, to the point where Thanquol considers Gotrek his greatest nemesis, even though Gotrek and Felix never learned Thanquol was behind all the Skaven plots they fucked up
>Probably killed like half of all the orcs that have ever been killed by dwarves. At least
>Defeats Throgg, the Troll King, officially making Gotrek the greatest Trollslayer ever (Kinslayer)
>Killed the same Bloodthirster of Khorne from Daemonslayer in single combat. Again. (Slayer)
>Prevented Be'lakor's ascension to the fifth God of Chaos by hitting him with that same Bloodthirster (Slayer again)
>Ascends to Godhood
>Holds the line against an infinite army of daemons, forever.

>>146157178
Rome 2 "DEI" MOD (with faster battles submod)
Play rome ans use the Triplex Achies formation.

Bows are for barbarians anon, the javelin is the noble warriors weapon

>>146156059
I'm >>146154546 I've got the 1gb 6950, 6gb RAM and i5 2400 that'd make all the difference?

Think I'll revert those drivers anyway. I'm generally good singleplayer, the fps will be around 30 with high textures and unit models. shadows, fx, grass, aliasing and shit turned off or low.

I'll even turn everything to low for MP and it still shits fucks around, not unplayable but really fucky. I thought it might be netcode but must be me.
Rome ran pretty average for me but i never really played multi.

>>146157275
what a badass. Wonder if we'll see him as a legendary lord

>>146157178
>>146157285
DEI is pure shit on the same tier of Radious. Just play vanilla until you get a hang of the mechanics.

Should I use Archaon or Suneater for the Chaos campaign? Suneater and his starting butt-buddies seems really strong but I like Archaon's campaign bonuses more.

>>146157371
he wanted to use formations. DEI is great for that.

The most fun I had in Rome 2 was my DEI campaign were I conquered Greece, Iberia and Carthage with pre marian armies and tactics

>>146157550
If you want to cheese it go for Archaon, get some growth upgrades and rush the dragon ogre building. that unlocks Kholek and you can have him pretty early on