Total War General /twg/

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the chosen one

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Gobbos

P A T C H
W H E N

>>146187471
>Battlefield 1 General Edition
Fuck off

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Bretonnia when?

I just got that Rome feeling again, but I really don't want to play rome 2. Ancient empires when?

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>>146188056
REMOVE KEK KNIGHT

Also, if Bretonnia is an unknowing, unwilling defender of the wood elves, why do wood elves sometimes kill knights?

>>146189019

To test them. Or to just fuck with them because muh forest and kill everyone that slightly looks at the area funny. I doubt the wood elves themselves know the workings of their god.

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>>146189019
Trespassing.

>>146188056
THE VOICE ACTOR FOR THE EGYPTIAN PIKEMEN IS THE SAME GUY WHO IS VOICING KARL FRANZ. IMMERSION SHATTERED.

If I asked for someone to give me a quick no meme replay to Fantasy lore, will I just get memed or would someone enjoy regurgitating lore info?

>>146189313
Well it's a well known lore fact that Karl Franz is a tomb kangz puppet. Why even play the game if you don't know ANYTHING about the source material?

>>146189364
Good God, I can't be arsed to explain all of Warhammer Fantasy's lore to you.

Pick three things

>>146189019
Because the forest has autism

new patch when

>>146189019
>>146189303
Also fighting. Sometimes, some Bret duke decides he's had enough of this fey bullshit and tries to burn down part of the forest. He inevitably loses because Athel Loren and Arden are magical as fuck and none of the other nobles are inclined to help him.

>>146189524
Ok!
Why are norse men so tall?
Why are there Giant skulls everywhere?
Are Giants smart, or are they Orc levels of dumb?Or are they just permanently drunk?

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> no patch news
> no DLC/FLC news
> no news at all

fuck you CA you pieces of fucking garbage, why have you lost so much touch you fuckers

>>146189364
I'd regurgitate it, but you should probably go to
>>>/tg/47881311
There's a Warhammer Fantasy general

If you need some quick info
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Warhammer_Fantasy_Battle
But ask away, it's better than BF1posting

>>146190092
Same reason real life Nordic people are tall
A lot of giants died in that place
They used to be elf levels of intelligent, with a great civilization and all, but they were culturally enriched by ogres and driven from their homes in the mountains. Since then, they have been forced to inbreed and live wandering existences, which has made them dumb as hell.

>Vampire Counts on very hard, had a uneasy start and was considering a restart
>Finally consolidated my hold on Bechafen, Stirland, Wissenland, Averheim, and Wissenland
>Dwarven shits always declaring war but can never truly burn them out of the hills
>less than 1500 DM per turn with Mannfred, Kemmler doomstack and a Necromancer basic unit army
>notice Border Prince turf is razed, reclaim it
>push into Tilea and Estalia
>suddenly 4000+ income, fund two more army's
>Greenskins on the run, interior dwarves burnt out of lands
>Get a defensive alliance with Nordland who are really strong, chaos come and I get involved in that war
>5 turns later chaos sues for peace, Grimgor wants peace after I burn and sack the entirety of his northern coastal cities
>push into Brettonia from the south and take Reikland
>10,000 income
>4 doomstacks and 3 fullstacks

Sometimes you just gotta persevere.

>>146188661
>he didn't sign up

>>146187471
nice picture senpai

Tomorrow will be the announcement!

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>>146190092
Norscans are like Spartans. Their entire society revolves around fighting each other, so strength and power are their only respectable qualities. Sickly or misshapen babies are thrown out immediately and generally only the hardiest and strongest men survive to father the tribe's next generation. This cycle repeated for thousands of years has produced Norsemen.

I have no idea about the mountain skulls. Maybe they exist because they look cool. Maybe it has something to do with the winds of magic changing the landscape. The skull is a pretty common image in the Empire as well.

The Giants got their shit kicked in by Ogres. They scattered to the winds and lost their civilization and were forced to inbreed to keep their race alive. They are smarter than a lot of orcs, but dumber than most goblins.

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>>146189019
Asrai really, REALLY don't like people fucking with their forests, they're happy to have Bretonnia as a buffer between their forest and the world, but they don't want Bretonnians deciding the trees aren't so scary anymore and wandering in whenever they feel like it to hunt and gather wood.

>>146190838
>playing VC
>not pushing out of sylvania with 8 stacks of zombies
playing the faction wrong tbqhf

>>146191389
Do the elves that live in the Empire forests count as Asrai, or is it just the faggots in Athel Loren? If they do not, then what are they called?

>>146192076
All forests are connected, so yes, they are Wood elves

>>146190301
Because they have no competition. Why do the AI ever refuse a trade agreement when its beneficial 100% of the time regardless of if you like them or not since it strengthens you both financially and most of the time equally?

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>burn down bretonnia
>cant burn down the giant faggoty elf forest
thats muckin about

>>146192392
>regardless of if you like them or not

That could be a reason. Diplomatic penalties with their neighbours for trading with you might be another.

>>146192392
Because to the WRE a podunk OPM trading with them at the start of the game means nothing.

>>146192392
Because the AI may not WANT to strengthen you. They may be aware that you are the most dangerous force in the game.

I wish the -5 leadership debuff on legendary would have been a stat buff or something else entirely.

Best mods for Rome 2 other than the uninstall wizard?

>>146193989
The topless vampiress one.

>restart an empire campaign on hard
>greenskin everywhere
>Marienburg lord declaring war and invading with full army at turn 10
>some faggot i never saw goes to war with me too
What the hell, was the difficulty patched?

If 7 we get a patch this week.

>>146192392
>equally
No it doesn't
The Eastern Roman Empire is turning in something like 30k a turn at the start of the game and spending 25k of it, but the Gepidae they're next to are turning in 4k and spending 3k of it
If each side gets an extra 300/turn, the Gepidae benefit far more

>>146194795
Good job, Anon. Now we wont even hear anything from CA for another month.

>>146194949
I tried ;_;
I couldnt wait anymore.

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How can humans even compete?

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>not playing on Ultra unit-size

>>146195052
Not being disgusting furries, for one

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>>146195253
>Disgusting
Rude

>>146193989
-DeI if you don't mind the combat
- Radiuos if you're not an autist that has problems getting the version without units and a submod for unit upkeep
-Bullgods icons
-epic music pack

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>Getting Franz and Gelt to lvl 30 by endless sacking that orc settlement next to Marienburg

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>catch a dwarf army without arty
>park da boyz outside arrow range
>dumb stunties just there and let me unload all the ammo on my doom divers

>>146196016
That spot is fucking great, especially for the Karl Franz quest where you need 5 orc fights.

>>146192423

>we just want you to fight something else

OI THIS GIT GOT SOMETHING TO HIDE, GET EM

>Better Camera Mod
>Building Progression Icons
>Improved Loading Screen Artwork
>Home Region Movement Bonus
>Mousillon City Of The Damned vampire counts conversion /reskin
>Permanent Retinues
>Radious Total War Mod
>Radious - Decisive Battles Submod
>Stupid Campaign Agents - Aggressive AI Begone!
>UI Unit Markers
>Warhammer: Improved flags by Noif

Anything i'm missing?

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>>146195052
>Beastcuck thinks he's a superior species

>>146195234

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIOWzOLBSM8

>>146196531
>radius

>>146196667
best combat mod

>>146196724
>Dismounted Cataphract Black Orc Big 'Unz Boar Boys (Halberds)

>STILL NO PATCH
WHAT'S GOING ON

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>those mods that add shields and lords variation

We need more variety god damn

>>146196608
Thats pretty good.

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>>146196573
>t. Triggered Sprite

>>146197128
They're holding off on shit so they can justify their criminal dlc practices.

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If 0 we wont get a patch until 2017

>>146197861
Close but no mango

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>>146196531
>Radious

So campaign wise Kemmler is strictly worse than Von Carstein right?

Like even his bonuses are almost objectively worse.

>>146197957
I don't actually use it but do people dislike it for any reason other than it gives you too much dosh?

That's the only glaring flaw I see with Radious.

>>146198852
That any the fact his "unit packs" just make all th3 factions the same by giving the other ones copies of others troops, and he thinks it's good.

He's just a awful human being in general.

>>146197861
You failed Haruhi.
Now bend over, you'll become the Beastmen's breeding slut.

>>146198852
Black Thunderer Boar State Troops (Trollhammer Torpedo)

>page 8 before someone posts anything
Bring out your dead

>>146199239
Patch tommorow?
please

Should they scale magic up and nerf Spirit Leech vs. characters? I think they should.

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>>146199239
if there is nothing this week game is officially dead

>>146199435
patch never

but really what could be taking them so long?

>>146199572
Nerf the cast range and/or nerf the effect subsequent casts have on the same unit

>>146199592
DX12 and maybe some FLC

>>146199592
does anyone have some kind of chart over post release activity from the other games in the series, just to compare how long we should wait before patch/dlc?

>>146199779

dlc is usually in about a month, patches is usually within the week. Shit nigga i think Rome 2 had patches daily

>>146199779
It took about a couple of days for Rome II's first large update, but it was a hot fucking mess that lit a fire under CA's ass. It took a couple of weeks for Attila's first major update. It's all on the TW wiki.

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>still no patch
>luminark of hysh is still mother fucking garbage

it's depressing as all hell that a giant laser gun does no damage while some fedora wearing bitch uses harsh language to completely destroy shitters.

>>146200187
probably because Games Workshop are acting as massive cunts and won't allow any further actions without their consent.

>>146189690
_never_

>>146199572
Nerf spirit leech a lot
And nerf characters and heroes, this is not a fucking MOBA

>>146200363
This is fucking warhammer though

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>>146200334
>actions without their consent

you sneaky bastard

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>>146200334

>actions without their consent.

>>146200187
But hey! We got day 0 DLC! faster than any previous game!

>>146200558
every game had some kind of preorder

>>146200305
>Falling for the luminark is shit meme
It sends any normal lord from full HP to wavering in one shot, it's cost needs to be toned down tho

>>146200334
Summon the GW Representatives

>>146190301
>he's surprised that post-Sega cucking ca sucks at literally everything in literally every way

Noob, ca has been cucked since at least empire when they decided to try to destroy their modding community in the name of dlc

>>146200476
You mean the tabletop strategy wargame where huge armies clash together? Because if it's supposed to be an adaptation of the tabletop, it fucking sucks

>>146199779
Atilla was kinda slow to patch too, people just git used to fast and lots of updates to rome 2, but that's because that game was a fucking mess.

>>146201174
>You mean the tabletop strategy wargame where huge armies clash together

and most heroes are powerful as all hell? Yes, that one.

>>146201174

At least it wasn't an age of Shitmar adaption.

>>146201670

Don't even joke about that shit man you'll give me nightmare

Should there be a mod/upgrade that gives Hellcannon units two cannons?

>>146201741
when they are done with warhammer fantasy they will continue with this unless we make it clear that we don't want to play it.

>>146201670
Holy shit, man. Bless this ravaged body!

>Sally out of a town
>Garrison reinforcements come from behind the besieging enemy army

Alt-F4'd right out that shit is so fucking annoying.

>>146201853

you couldn't pay me to play a shitmar vidya adaptation desu

>>146201492
>most heroes are powerful as all hell
>implying

All heroes either hide in a unit to soak the damage (since they are usually frail, even if they dish out the pain) or are carried by monster mounts

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>tfw no medieval 3

Do I spam Principes or Triarii?

>>146202284
Triplex. Acies.

>>146201670
>Gdubs
>Hurting the incredible miniature sales of Age of Sigmar™

>>146202284
Spam Greatswords

>>146202284
Your mainline should be made up entirely of Triarii. Have a few units of Principes as reserves in the back next to your general.

>>146202213
Warhammer fantasy is the closest we'll ever get for a long time, even though we can't even play as brettonia yet, at least the other factions have a late medieval feel.

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>>146202213

>no medieval 3 with an accurate and functional feudal system

>>146202284
Rome 1 or 2?

>>146202090
The only good thing about it is some of the art, though they maybe went a little too anime

>>146202912
>A little too anime
*Insert picture of Age of Shitmar Archaon*

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>>146203262
I gotchu I think

>>146202409
Wait until it finally hits them and they get desperate, they'll be giving that license out to any shovelware developer that looks their way.

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>>146202213
>tfw no Empire 2

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>getting worse and worse at battles with every new TW

Anyone have any decent guides?

>>146204138

>Frano-Prussian War never
>Crimean War never
>Early Great War never
>Russo-Japanese War never

>>146204138
>Wanting more point and shoot snooze fest instead of manly melee based with some ranged cowards as support.

>>146204521
I'm just as good at battles still, it's just he campaign portion of Atilla and rome 2 that I have no real idea what to do with.

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What's the point of improving trade resources like lumber as VC if no one wants to trade with you?

>>146204641
For good reason, these eras sucked.

>>146204828
Most of them provide more money than gibbets, so there's that.

>>146204828
Zombie limbs fall off easily. How's your army going to fight with no legs? You'll need that lumber for lots of pegs!

>>146204641
>CA does two expansions for Empire 2 in the vein of TWWH
>The Americas with the Civil War and South American empires
>East Asia which is FOTS with a much bigger scale including parts of China, Korea, and the Russian Far East
>CA will either bungle it or never make it in the first place
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?

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>>146204862

>those eras sucked

>>146204828
Extra income

>>146204828
You can bribe your way into an alliance with dwarves who are at war with empire, then force them to trade with you
or just vassalize someone

>>146202803
2. I've never actually played as Rome and I'm not quite sure how to build up my army. Socii seem to be cheaper but worse units and money is not really an issue.
Triarii have insane stats but they're spear troops so I was thinking that Principes would be better at killing enemies.

>>146204980

Who told you about the peg leg market for zombies? I've been trying to corner that for years.

>>146205465
Oh, I never really played rome 2 in my case. Spears are genrally better line troops since they can kill cav and still hold against infantry with low losses to themselves as long as you support them with good cav or sword infantry.

>>146200187
>Rome 2 had patches daily

That's because it really fucking needed them

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

Why do people not like Attila's setting?

>>146202090
I'd play an hack'n'slash diablo clone in aos

>>146206018
No le ebin Legionaries, but also not le ebin knights.

>>146204828
Try constantly warring with the Empire. This should make at least some elector cunts who hate Franz like you enough for trade.

On a side note, holy shit is raise dead ever broken. Around turn 15 I was taking the last city of western Sylvania, which resulted in a battle of two mostly zombie stacks vs a zombie stack and a garrison. Over 6000 deaths, Kemmler as the starting hero and getting the follower that decreases the price of Raise Dead give me access to literally every unit in the VC rooster at a considerable discount, including Black Coatches and Terrorgheists. Had to forgo development other than economic, but the advantage is unreal.

>>146206018

>bland
>drab colours
>depressing
>every faction is the same
>nothing unique

>>146206153
>Every faction is the same.

I dunno man. So far I've played the Jewrabs and the celts, seemed pretty different to me.

>>146206018

because much like the modern day, its a transitional period.

The days of Legions and grand armies and "epic battles" are gone, but the rise of feudalism, knights, and major kingdoms we can recognize hasn't happened yet.

It's just that awkward period of history where everyone was part-germanic, most major places were ruled by germanics, and everything was for the most part samey-samey.

It's just for most people, a very uninteresting point in history inbetween two great epochs

>>146201785
Should be 4, its chaos only range, and theyre not that impressive since the cannon itself cant go on a rampage.

>>146206018

Because nobody made a proper movie or TV show about the era yet

Are there any mods that model Gyrocopters with human pilots?

I want to make a human wizard that has a Gyrocopter as his flying mount. Is this possible and/or does it already exist?

>>146206395

the way the game depicts the era isn't how it was in real life, obviously.

He's right, most armies around that period were VERY similar, asides from the armies that were different because of cultural reasons, such as the comparison between a european army and a middle eastern army

>>146205465
Triarii are effectively unkillable
Socii Hastati are cheaper with slightly better charge bonus

>>146206018
Its just hiding under a blanket while some maniac beats you with a stick.
The only choice you have is the colour of your blanket or you can play as the maniac.

>>146206018
Because it is about the fall of an empire, not the birth of one. There IS no winner in Attila, the whole idea of the End of Days is pretty spot on, even the chapter victory conditions are 'survive until', not the 'get this big with this many troops' of Rome 2. The Western Roman Empire falls but nothing rises to take its place, all you have are people squabbling over the last vestiges of a once-great civilization. It's rather depressing.

>>146207589
If you dont already have the reform by the time youre expanding outside of Italy youre doing it wrong tho.

>>146207834
I always found the idea of tearing down the old and forcing in the new to be nice, feels especially good driving the romans out of britain as the ebdani and raiding their shores.

>>146208095
But there's nothing new, that's the problem. You don't build a great civilization, you build mud huts everywhere.

>>146200334
>won't allow any further actions without their consent.

That's not how a license works, anon.

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thoughts? i feel like 1 is a little underwhelming. I was originally planning on 3, but now I'm worried it will be too much. 2 might be ok, but i'm not sure

Why is Warhammer OST so weak compared to R2?

Did they use another composer?

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I miss Shogun 2's mechanics. Why can't you bribe stuff like you did in Shogun 2? Why can't you incite revolts like you did in Shogun 2?

>>146207460
Don't think so, swap the wizard's pegasi with a gyrocopter (land_units_tables, mounts tab) and see how it goes?

Also, dwarf engineers should have the option to ride a gyro tbqh

>>146208251
What is this?

I like #3 firebolts and #2 explosions

>>146208251
bigger is better, go for 3

>>146207834
I think the Goths came out of it pretty well all things considered. Things didn't get truly bad for another century or two.

>>146207601
Alternatively, you play ERE or sassykids and never give a shit about the blanket or the maniac.

>>146209228
The Goths did pretty well, but Britain and France were pretty badly fucked up as were the Balkans in general.

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>>146208675

Inciting revolts was pretty damn broken tho.

>half of Japan on fire from rebel revolts
>crippling and dismantling allies with revolts
>no expansionist negatives for conquering all that land

>>146209053
>>146209054
I'm working on a mod that does some stuff to some the vehicle units and maybe siege units. Working on the gyro copters right now. The underwhelming steam puff is being replaced by fire and brimstone

Since you guys like 3 I'll probably go with that and use a smaller explosion effect since that part seems a little rediculous

>>146208305
R2 is the weakest of the series m8

>>146209334
Its not completely ahistorical though Lords rarely incited it seeing as they would essentially be undermining their own position.

Just finished a long Dwarf campaign on normal, wanna start Greenskins on hard. Which lord should I use, and are there any good mods? I checked the mods weekly vids but didn't see anything I like asides from playable Mousillon

>>146210607
Just get Grimgor

>>146210607
Azhag if you want a challenge

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>co op with friend
>desync
>unknown error
>desync
>crash
>freeze
>desync
fucking A i had no problems in single player but multi is hardly playable
patch fucking when?

>public order exists as a thing in TWW
>theoretically can be used to incite revolt to soften up enemy strongholds
>practically impossible on any difficulty against the AI
>50+ vampiric corruption and the enemy province is still 100 (+12)
>only exists seemingly as an artificial difficulty barrier for human players

No but really what's the point?

>>146210607
well
disable AI cheats, black black orcs (because fuck red, they're meant to be black), then there's that one mod that gives some extra skill points if you wamt it (like every 5th level or something you get 2 skillpoints instead of 1)

>>146211085
>download a mod that removes AI bogus public order bonuses
>profit

>>146211085
Eh, I still remember when I was trying to make a village revolt due to religious unrest in M2 on hard because I couldn't be bothered with a full war with the faction owning it. My faction leader actually died before it happened, I decided that his son just had enough and conquered it.

>>146211085
To stop the player from blitzkreiging across the map without any penalties.

>>146211085

That would require them to actually develop competent campaign AI.

>>146211085
>AI has 3 agents, 2 PO buildings and a full stack in their city
>+10 public order


Seems pretty balanced. Any region without those gets pretty hefty reduction for even a small amount of corruption.

>>146211085
There is a mod removing that shit making AI suffer the same as human player and guess what, you can beat Legendary as Normal shitter so if you play on Hard/Very Hard the game become a cake walk.

>>146199009
I feel like you're overextending there, he makes low effort mods, what makes him an "awful human being in general?"

>>146211085
Bru.... dont ever play Age of Charlemagne if you think thats bad.

>>146211654
Being popular

>>146211085
Dunno what you speak of. I completely depopulated Bloody Spears-controlled Zhufbar with Vampiric Rebellions.

I wasn't even paying attention. I guess the watched province never rebels

>>146189303
The Lady of the Lake isn't an elf.

>>146212115
she is, anon

>>146211806
oh.

>>146212115
>he doesn't know

>>146205004

I'm here to play EBII tbqh fampai

>>146209334

The best thing was
>incite revolt
>bribe the revolt
>you now have a level 2 - 3 general, with upgraded units and unique units

Shit's cash.

>>146212115
t. breton

Any news on DLC or patches yet?

>>146212182
>>146212227
>>146212583

Nope she's not an elf in any edition of the army book. That's end times/age of sigmar shit. Sorry guys.

>>146210607

You get Grimgor after choosing slaughter X times so he's easy to get quickly after starting with Azhag.

>>146212667
Tomorrow

>>146212752
It's canon, friend :^)

>>146212752
The only difference is that before End Times, it was only ever heavily implied the lady is an elf. End Times just confirmed the obvious.

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>>146212667

Nope, TWW under preformed sales wise and SEGA is reigning CA in. Don't expect anything for awhile.

>>146213068
[citation needed]

>>146213143
The game canon. You know, the thing you desperately don't want End Times to be in.

>>146213238
[citation needed]

>>146213095
>Fastest selling TW ever
>Underperformed sales wise

>>146213095
>headcanon

Anyone getting game-destroying bugs with Master of Strategy? I'm on my small island hopping conquest right now and every time I move the campaign camera to the northern part of Comfyshu I instantly get the error message and crash to desktop. I'm also using AI subject to honor, AI subject to occupation resistance, a battle cam mod, and real army tokens.

>>146213409
I thought you read all the army books?

>>146213693
Which is why I'm telling you it's not in the book and if you're going to come up with bullshit you're going to have to back it up buddy, otherwise that's just bullshit.

>>146213813
well she dwells around Athel Loren normally, loads of Bretonnian castles were built on Elven ruins (remember Bretonnia is the most western part of Old World so its the closest to Ulthuans sphere of influence) and she's an elegant lady who clearly isn't human=elf.

>all this Bretonnian cope

>>146213428
>fastest =/= total units sold

About to start a chaos campaign, anything to be aware of?
I already won with all the base factions

>>146214382
Keep telling yourself that while TWW keeps on being the most successful TW launch in years.

>steam servers down for routine maintenance
>total war launchers refuse to load workshop mods

Has this always happened? I don't remember this ever being a thing, I could always play Rome 2 and Attila offline. I need my fix but I cannot touch these games unmodded.

>>146214382
>consistently being in the top 10 sellers doesn't mean you sell

It's getting lower now just because other titles are at 75% off

>>146214786
>It's getting lower now just because other titles are at 75% off
But they're not, anon...

>>146215506
Didn't notice the sale on G2A, disregard my post.

>>146214263
She dwells fucking nowhere you tard, she only appeared in visions and only the Gilles and the Fay Enchantress, as far as I know. She's also depicted as human female in the army book.

Nice bullshit though.

>>146215674
There's a bigass arma sale on steam too

>>146215879
>She dwells fucking nowhere you tard

But that's fucking wrong.

chariots, boars or savage boars?

my chariots seem to get a huge amount of kills but also rout real easy if i don't babysit them the entire battle

is there a lore reason why occupied karaz-a-karak gets night goblins in their garrison?

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So... the nightgoblins conquered altdorf in the Waagh...
Goblins are beyond shit, no clue how they did it.

>>146217903
Medieval 2 ai can't into city defending. That's how.

>>146218449
Reikland had a full stack inside and a full stack outside the city, plus the biggest walls that exist within the game.
I could hold out against 10 stacks gobbos with only 1 stacks.

>>146218676
Autoresolve doesn't account for walls

>>146214446
invest in growth
your stacks get attrition when next to each other
be good with the world map

>>146218449
>>146218676
AI on AI fighting is just autoresolve, why are you memeing?

They probably brought tonnes of giants and trolls or some other unit that buttfucks the calculations.

>>146219183
Cannot into city defending as in cannot into allocating forces to defend their cities. In this case, they apparently did.

>>146214446
3 ticks of horde growth
3 ticks of unit recruitment

>>146219183
At least in real total warhammer the city gets garrisons so dumb shit like this almost never happens.

>>146220691
How is it dumb?

>>146205465
Alright so there are a lot of stats that are not shown or listed and both Attila and Rome 2 are awful about this. Maximus is a guy who dies a bunch of total war videos and he has a video showing you how to look it up but different weapons get different damage bonuses sometimes against different targets. For example a spear unit might say weak against infantry or something but because the weapon length gives a flat damage bonus it is superior to an equivalent looking sword unit. And different swords gave different damage bonuses and lengths that aren't listed. So it might say a sword does 20 damage but its lengths adds an extra 2 points bringing it to 22. Basically CA is fucking retarded and can't be fucked to show you all the relevant stats. I think Germanic clubs were a good example where their stats appeared to be objectively shittier but the club actually adds a bonus not shown that makes them better.

>>146206018
Because no matter what you do in the end it's "Huns rape everyone lol"

Plus the faction diversity is severely limited. even with all the factions all it boils down to is more or less Huns/Barbs/Romans/easterners

>>146221604
>"Huns rape everyone lol"
Sounds like Age of Sigmar

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Its ok silly cultists... Im sure Khorne doesnt mind whose blood it is.

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>Kislev attacking you as chaos with 19 outriders and a mounted lord
It's not hard to beat but they're so fucking annoying
The only units more annoying are marauder horsemen since they're faster and actually hurt a lot

>>146221814
Gas the GW

Do undead really just have morale and fatigue (sorry, leadership and vigor) renamed to spooky skeleton versions?

Or do the mechanics surrounding them actually work differently, aside from undead taking extra damage instead of routing at low morale?

>>146210956
played it all day, worked flawlessly

check yourselves

>>146217693

Night Goblins infest the whole of that mountain range.

>>146221604
>Plus the faction diversity is severely limited
Tbh TW has always had problems with this until well, Warhammer.

I DON'T WANT TO PLAY AS CHOSOKABE

>>146222362
Yes

>>146223654
Why would you want to play as archers when you can play as ninjas or jews?

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>>146223932
>Ninja

Honestly so good. Suicide bomb kings. They solo'd a general unit and then like three other units.

>>146194463

i swear it was ey.

right off the bat the vamps have all these fucking armies running around.

So, still no patch?

So which LL has the best and worst quests?

>>146226219

Mannfred's are pretty lame, they're pretty much straight copy/pastes of Azhag's.

>>146226219
thorgrim for worst
>just build two gyrocopter XD

>>146226423
This. Especially since everything that comes out of the Engineers Guild building is absolutely pants so it's basically a wasted slot. Also he only gets two quests rather than the standard three. Karl Franz's are also meh. Reikland Runefang can be really fucking annoying since one of the conditions to progress can be 'secure a military or defensive alliance with Nordland' - which is basically impossible on VH/Legendary unless they really want to be friends. As for best - I enjoyed Azhag's and Ungrim's quests for the most part. They were challenging and interesting but not obnoxiously difficult in any way. It seems like generally the secondary LLs came off better in that regard.

Looks like /wgg/ is dead again but if you guys like sim type RTS this is a steal: https://www.bundlestars.com/en/bundle/graviteam-tactics-bundle

>>146226423
It just sucks that it takes so much time to make them

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Anyone who's played a Chaos campaign, would you recommend that I go vanilla for my first one, without mods? Is it more satisfying or interesting? Or is removing stuff like infighting and making Chaos corruption stronger more fun?

>>146228224
>mods for total war

>>146228224

Haven't played it with mods but have played through it. Focus on getting as many hordes as you can asap. Sack for money, upkeep be damned.

>>146227274
looks like schieße

>>146228224

Mods are needed for chaos or else you'll be bored out of your mind by turn 70.

>>146228928

get a load of this cuck

>>146219093
That's dumb as shit, what the actual fuck?

>want to play a warhammer fantasy RPG
>the only one is that private server from the dead MMO
>it's run by SJWs and I'll inevitably get banned

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I NEED KOREA TOTAL WAR AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>146229457
>Mods are needed for chaos or else you'll be bored out of your mind by turn 70.
What mods though? I havent seen any that seemed interesting

>>146230119
A veritable work of its time, Radious mod is an author’s input on the contemporary attitude so critical of mods that they’re often not given a chance at all, a window through which we see the creator’s wish to move his audience, as well as frustrations at the vessels of these emotions being ignored or enjoyed as “low art”.

Attempts at analyzing Radious mod’s implications and unraveling its messages necessitate great concentration and effort, which is further exacerbated when so much of my blood flows elsewhere than my brain when enjoying this mod.

Radious mod is a journey, an embodiment of a search fundamental to our humanity yet abandoned by contemporary society; Radious Mod is the eternal quest for perfection. As philosophers and "understanders of strategy" alike vainly peruse the void of their hollow souls for an abstract ideal, they achieve naught save for casting the community into desecration. Delving further into the hypothetical and the metaphysical only reinforces the misbelief that true beauty lies within. “Homosexuality,” Plato wrote, “is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments, Both of which apply to contemporary society.

"Quod culus tibi purior salillo est, nec toto decies cacas in anno; atque id durius est faba et lapillis. Quod tu si manibus teras fricesque, non umquam digitum inquinare posses.”

As tremors of mirth reverberate through my corpus; my finite faculties discharged; my soul emancipated. Such is the power of Radious Mod. Radious Mod is not everyone’s cup of tea. It is perhaps best treated as a lengthy parable. For the actively dismissive it will hardly make much of an impression other than being an ordinary mod with a cheap attempt at improving the game. For others with willing ears and eyes to match, it can be a novel take on the values and motivations surrounding the genre.

>>146230026

how are they SJWs? genuinely curious...

>>146230119

just shop around m8. unit mods are the best.

dont listen to the cucks ITT that bang on about how adding units is cheating or makes the game unbalanced. the game already has horrishit balanace. just have fun and play it the way you want to play.

>>146230248
>i am bad at the game

>>146230248

also forgot to mention that addons for magic are decent too. magic is pretty shit and isn't balanced at all for ultra unit sizes.

>>146230371

not really. ive been playing total war games since the first medieval. its just a fact that THIS total war has genuinely terribad balance and not enough thought put into it.

all the skill has been sucked out of the game anyway. dumbed down campaign, economy, diplomacy and most battles are over in less than 10mins and are blob mashes anyway.

>>146230389
Is Molay still recommended or are there others that work better?

What does your dwarf army composition look like? Gyrocopters are garbage, so I assume it's something like 3 units of artillery, 4 units of ranged, a handful of hammerers or slayers and fill the rest with longbeards or Iron Breakers depending on how far along you are.

>>146230248
https://www.returnofreckoning.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=14879

Azarael is the head admin after the original team left

>>146230540

haven't used that mod yet.

>>146230580

oh goody. thanks for replying.

Gork or Mork, /twg/?

>>146230703
pork

>>146228224
Hey big guy
I'd recommend getting a higher replenishment rate mod, otherwise you'll be constantly limping and stuck using only remergeable units rather than fun Big Guys
You'll also probably want a mod that turns down AI Aggressive Agent Actions, you'll be swarmed by agents for most of your game it's a real pain in the arse
Otherwise, have fun. Things can get pretty silly, never be afraid to run!

>>146230532
>he's not only bad at the game he's also blinded by nostalgia

poor boy.

>>146230907
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=691207619&searchtext= this one's pretty good too.

>>146230703

No no, Gork AND Mork.

>>146231257
lol I knew you were going to counter my suggestions with that. I'm insulted, to be honest. I'm just speaking from my personal experience as a true blue Chaos battler
Getting swarmed by agents such that you cannot keep a new lord alive due to assassinations just sucks. Then there's the constant assault unit(s) actions they do on you - which means you'll be limping into your lightning strike hits against the 4 stacks following you, and can't completely bugger them all off
And replenishment keeps you able to at least stay relatively stable when you're being chased by 3-4 stacks (aka 90% of the time). 2 turns to get into battle shape vs 3 or 4? Yes, please.

Is it normal that by turn 15 as Chaos I get the three stacks of Norse chasing me down?

>>146231618
If it's not Norse it'll be Dwarfs or Kislev

Does anyone have problems running Deus lo Vult? I get mean graphical glitches and unusable menus.

Going to be doing a Shogun 2, Otomo run and I have a few questions

-Any suggested mods for S2?
-Are the donderbluss cavalry worth it?
-Does growth still trump the trading markets that consume food?

>>146231751
Kislev, and Middenland, and Nordland, and more! I had two Bretonnia stacks come up for me once too.

>>146231973
>End times are supposed to be the Norse launching the biggest invasion ever
>Game makes it out to be the entire empire putting aside its problems and invading the north
I need a Everchosen not so tough after being molested meme.

>>146232160
If you have a screenshot of someone playing Chaos and being surrounded by Empire doomstacks, I can try my hand at it.

Is it worth recruiting and using Thanes for Dwarf armies? I have good experiences with Engineers and Runesmiths but my feelings are mixed on these guys.

>>146232160
Oddly enough in that specific game it ended up working out in the Chaos favour. All those expedition stacks up north couldn't get much done, and then Chaos Gathering popped up, and Skaeling finished uniting all of the north (sadly not my vassal), and I ran all the way south (accurately roleplaying the cowardice of Archaeon). Chaos Gathering + Skaeling ravaged the north, I ravaged the south, then I finished off Chaos Gathering and knocked out a couple Skaeling stacks. Left behind only Skaeling, a fairly weak VC, incredibly dominant Dwarfs holding the entire East, and Karak Izor sitting pretty in their little range, somehow untouched. Eventually VC resurged and waged Eternal War with Skaeling, and I spent like 100 turns poking Dwarfs

>>146232424

I'd say no, not until we get a different lord variety for dwarves.

>>146228224
Chaos cosmetics and no aggressive agents, otherwise you wont be able to move at all.

>>146232424
They're ok as assassins
Sucks that Dwarfs don't get a dedicated one

Will someone please equate all the factions in the human world of Warhammer with their historical source material. All I get is kisev is Russia and Bretonia is Britian.

How on earth do you counter corruption as Dwarfs. Do you just pop a slayer shrine in every city on top of researching the tech?

>>146233889
Just kill Archie.

>>146233889
I kept everything at 10-15% corruption just by venerating ancestors and researching Valaya's blessing or something like that

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>>146233847
Bretonnia has a lot more French flavor, just look at their naming style.

The Empire has a German theme. Estalia is supposed to be Spanish. Tilea is supposed to be Italian city-state-ish. The Border princes are a mix of the last three. Lots of pike and shot in the Estalia, Tilea, and BP as well.

>>146234186
Does corruption have diminishing returns the higher the percentage gets or something?

>>146233847
>Couronne
>Mousillon
>Bordeleux
>Lyonesse
>Carcassonne

>Britain

I mean come on, they even have a French accent in the game.

>>146234450
Fucking Hell yes it does. Playing VC it's so damn frustrating to see corruption get to 60 or 70 percent and starting to crawl at 2% per turn.

>>146234846
Oh guess that solves my original problem then. I kept watching it crawl up and up and I was worried about it eventually hitting 70%+ or something.

>>146235021
it tells you how far it's going to get.

>>146235021
Negro you can see the maximum corruption you'll get if you point at it
It'll say something like untainted land 75%, corruption 25%. It means that unless you get more things that corrupt the province, it won't go above 25%

>>146234607
Empire - Germans
Bretonnia - Frogs
Orcs - Brits

I dont know why its so hard for them to understand.

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>>146231257
Goddamn. That's a lot of cheaters.

Whats the opinion on hoard infighting?

>>146236417
Not that big of a problem but can get annoying really quick.

>>146230565

A mix of Iron Breakers/Longbeards or Hammerers
4 cannons or grudge throwers
Mass Quarrelers, something close to 6-8 units that focus fire enemies once the lines have been engaged
2 Thunderers which I use as a mobile support unit which runs around shooting people in the side.

Basically you want to have an army that will shoot the fuck out of the approaching enemy, a solid anvil to hold them while your army continues to shoot them to death.

2 units of thunderers running around concentrating fire on enemy flanks are pretty good.

If enemy has lots of cavalry then you keep your thunderers close together so that if one unit gets charged, the other can fire into the sides/back of the enemy cavalry.

If they have shit loads of cav then its much harder, Quarrellers with GA can at least lay on the hurt in CQC if they get charged by cav.

>>146233889

Runesmith deploy is something absurd like -12 corruption.

>>146236821
>If they have shit loads of cav then its much harder
Dealing with the savage orcs was insanely annoying. They would field armies that were like 10 savage boys, 10 boar riders.

Never did figure out how to counter that, short of making some Empire tier box strat

If I'm VC and give military access to someone, does that mean they won't take attrition damage if they march across vampiric tainted lands?

>>146237138
hug corner

>>146237210
Dunno m8, they would never move until I started advancing. I just assumed they had finally addressed the issue where having one artillery piece would cause the enemy to charge forward.

>>146235972
>people are literally this bad
holy shit, chaos is the easiest campaign people. warhammers probably the easiest TW game yet too.

I still get my ass handled in rome 2 and shogun 2 regularly in legendary.

>>146237286
You have to actually shoot AI with arty to make them attack
Or at least right click its units since AI reads your inputs

Is there a mod that lets me play all the factions in Total Warhams?

I literally don't have arms to search myself.

>>146237162

nope those fucks get destroyed hard

>>146237657
But you have arms to come beg here

>>146237657
yes

>>146237328
how is chaos the easiest campaign?

thought that'd be emp

>>146238378
Empire is easy, but on harder difficulties, the first 20 turns or so are a complete make-or-break. If too many of the factions around you decide to slap your shit before you can establish a foothold in Reikland, you may as well restart.

>>146238378
chaos is almost impossible to lose if you're constantly moving and taking easy battles. the empire can just get fucked by diplomacy like what >>146238742 says. the first 20 turns i restarted around 8 times or so. in chaos, the only "bad start" you can have is if you personally fuck up in a battle, or take a battle you can't win.

my first legendary win was with chaos in 116 turns, and it was a fucking cake walk compared to the empire, but most notably dwarves.

people seem to have some trouble with orcs, but they were just a lot of fun for me to actually battle with, if I had a lot of trouble with them I didn't notice.

>>146238956
I finished my Emp legendary campaign on turn 130 or so. How'd you do Chaos in 116 turns? Just run around the Empire razing everything?

>>146237138
Quarellers worked just fine for me

>>146228224
>There can only be one!
Limit all factions one agent of each type

>No overpowered agents
Agent level/target level differences don't give hidden % +/- to success and crit success

>Chaos rifts spread corruption
Makes them do what you think they would do

>Mounts for legendary lords
So Sigvald isn't fucking useless and Archaon can ride whatever the fuck he pleases as the goddamned everchosen of goddamned chaos

>Level 60 lords or whatever it's called
Keeps things fun and your lords power creeping through the whole game instead of reaching their peak at turn 70

>Full cost forced march
Makes it so forced march actually reduces your campaign movement the turn it's activated, so neither you nor AI can abuse switching in and out of it. Less campaign dancing, more scouting, tension and battles.

>Recruit Lord of Change for Campaign
Activate after you get the event and kill the Lord of Change, feels good to make him your bitch instead.

>>146239635
I beelined it for the empire, and eliminated them pretty fast, despite their confederation shenanigans. I went down to the dwarfs and luckily the greenskins were winning, so it was just a few hits and they were gone. I went up the coast along Estalia, branching off into multiple hordes to hit the sacked settlement-count. Moussilon had taken over most of the Empires ruins at that point, so despite not acutally fighting Bretonnia, they cucked the hell out of them, limiting them to their starting province.

>>146237328

rome 2 is easy...warhammer is harder.

>>146231107

are you new to total war, champ?

>>146187471
asgaria on twitch

Anyone want to watch me try and move closer to rank 1 on the leaderboard? currently rank 153

>>146233489

HURRDURR BUD DAS JUS CHEATING!!!!

GIT GUD AT DEH GAEM, FAG!

>>146240461
this is one of the best posts of all time

>>146240263
warhammer is only """""harder""""" because in addition to the enemy getting massive buffs, your units get debuffs too. But other than the artificial difficulty it's easier in every way.

>>146240003

thats fucking cheating dude. git gud at the game ffs. if you play anything but vanilla you are BAD!

>>146240579

yeah well, ca are obviously shit now, aren't they.

>>146240710
i understand the whole "defending lack of skill through irony" thing, but he was asking about mods to make it more fun, not easier, and the response were mods to make it more fun, and reasons as to why they made them more fun for the suggester. no need to start shit-flinging when you see some trigger-words

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Holy shit these little fuckers are hilarious. I just wish there was a way to control when to release them so they aren't wasted on zombies as shown here.

>>146240384
Judging from your YouTube vids you arent entertaining enough to watch streaming. Sorry bud

>>146241074

shut up scrub. play vanilla, the way our lord and savior, CA intended it or go home/git gud.

faggot.

Just finished my first campaign.

Is it normal for Dwarves to become a superpower?

Because they had probably 90% of their possible settlements. Even with my united Empire + bits of Bretonnia, they were still the strongest faction.

I had to wage war on them for a bit, because they made a defensive alliance with Kislev during the hugbox, and Kislev had migrated south into Ostermark.

Also, Steam tanks are amazing against the Norse and Vampire Counts. Less so against Dwarves, but still great.

>>146241074

>wanting unit variety means you lack skill

sorry but you're wrong. there is a severe lack of unity variety in this game. it just shows laziness on CA's part. not even mentioning how many units are redundant/completely useless.

>>146241201

yes it is normal. they blue blob in my games.

>>146241197
i beat all the campaigns on legendary without any mods. i'm just saying you should tone down on the shitposting to let it be a little less "relentless"

>>146241423
>i beat all the campaigns on legendary without any mods

and? so have most people ITT. you just played the boring and dull version of the game.

sorry you can't seem to dislodge CA's cock that's jammed so thoroughly down your throat.

>>146241310
t. radious

>>146241201
My dwarves held an empire that touched the chaos wastes, protected the belly of the empire, and pushed deep into the badlands. Then chaos rolled around and while I crusaded in Norsca they managed to lose nearly all of it to Grimgor, who somehow came back from literally just a savage orc reservation and became my end game boss. Dwarves are definitely more of an early game powerhouse but they fall apart in the late.

>>146240461
>>146240710
>>146241197
I get that this is in jest, but as a friendly reminder, playing loud is not the epitome of skill.

Nuance is the epitome of skill.

>>146241201

Dwarves are ALWAYS in the top 5 factions midgame, unless VC's and Greenskins shit on them early. They just confederate and confederate and confederate while drowning in free AI money. I've seen them march 10 full stacks around.

As the Empire, I usually just slap a Defensive Alliance on them, then ignore them till the hugbox, when I make them military allies. If they do waht they did to you, then bribe them so that they like you more than your rival, then declare war. In a situation where allies declare war on each other, the AI will always pretty much always side with the faction it likes most.

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>>146241553

i hate radious mod, it's fucking shit. too much money, too many armies. its bad. tried it once on rome 2 and then uninstalled after i got bored of my campaign.

>>146241583

>tips fedora

>>146241547
and thusly i've played with mods as well? you seem to be missing the point completely into the guise of baiting me with shitposts.

>>146241583

>dwarves are an early game powershouse but fall apart late

I find the opposite. Grimgor tends to walk all over them early, but once they start confederating, they tend to snowball.

>>146241553

>please take a shit in my mouth CA, I dont mind if you cut corners and expect me to pay full price and let modders do all the real work

>>146241715

tips fedora :^)

>>146241764

this desu

>>146241583

>crusading in Norsca

This is so painful.

Even with my panzer brigade, I eventually just called it quits and finished uniting the Empire. That attrition is ridiculous, and the Norse just run around resettling everywhere.

I guess you could do it with a few really good armies, especially auto-resolving, but it's such a pain.

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>>146241825
>tfw you want to jerk off by calling somebody retarded, but all they do is edge you by saying "tips fedora :^)"

>>146241941
I used Gelt, my Reiksmarshal, and some other sucker to do it. Don't use any less than 3 armies or you're asking for punishment. Whoever you send up there is gonna be gone for a long time, but I find it helps to sail around and use the ocean as much as you can.

LAtegame, should I be walking around with shitloads of cheap stacks, or a few elite stacks?

Because I feel I could be fielding way more stacks than I am.

>>146242534
There are no such thing as elite stacks. You only get one of each type of unit.

>>146242496

I actually razed five villages, then called it quits.

The Skaeling never bothered me again.

The Varg were still plenty strong, but I beat the Long Campaign before they could do anything other than siege. a few northern towns. I might might march the rape squad of Franz and the Panzer brigade up just to have a better finish to the campaign, but I don't think I can be bothered chasing them around all-day.

>>146242612

What? I mean, should I have tons of shitty soldiers

Say 40 units of Swordsmen, Crossbowmen etc in two armies, or one army of Demigryphs?