dacian edition
>FAQs & General Info
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>Steam Groups
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/totalwargeneral
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>Total War Warhammer
Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2191-Total-War-WARHAMMER-Modifications
>OVERCASTING SPELLS
Double click a spell (it needs to be a boostable spell and you need to have enough magic in the magic pool) to overcast the spell
There's a 50% chance that the caster damages itself though!
>QUEST BATTLE TELEPORT
Select your lord (make sure he isn't garrisoned or in a stance)
Select the quest battle (on the map or through quest log)
There's a button in the bottom right of the quest battle window that you can use to teleport for 5k gold (when the battle's finished you're automatically teleported back to your original position)
>GROUP ATTACK
Group units with ctrl + g
Select your group and right click the enemy
All your units move and automatically direct themselves to and engage enemies they get close to while maintaining formation
>>145975725
IF OUR DAIMYO IS TO BECOME SHOGUNMILITARY RULER OF ALL JAPAN
>>146050315
First for GoT battles reaching new lows.
>>146050443
WE WUZ CANNAE AND SHIT
>>146050507
>"this is our version of cannae"
>Not one thing happens like cannae other than the basic army gets surrounded, but it fails here where at cannae it worked....
>>146050315
SUMMON
hello
>>146050692
THETWENTY GOOD MEN
>general with 600 health attacks my mostly dead garrison
>autoresolve think he'll win
Motherfucker only killed 50 people out of 100
>>146050315
Rollan!
>>146051905
>mommy says it's my turn to be emperor!
how many times have you guys lost a battle due to routing units from the walls running off then reforming right in the capture plaza and stealing points? thats annoying, why can't they go back down the damn ladders
>>146052228
wish me luck dawi
>>146051905
Rolllllllll
>>146052464
>walls
>ironbreakers
Put cannons into the open gate and AI giants will bug out
>>146051905
Is Ranald with me?
*makes the going to /gsg/ post*
*does the >playing on not-ultra post*
*posts picture of vampire chan*
*complains about how fantasy fags killed /twg/*
*complains about how history fags killed /twg/(?)*
*posts a cap of dwarfs killing 7000 zombies*
*comments on being a trve understander*
*complains about someone who posted a caps graphics quality*
*summons the elector counts*
*posts an obscure screencap from a gunpowder /twg/ and never elaborate on context*
*radious mod*
>>146052349
Zero.
>>146053208
Forgot tomb kangz
>>146053208
What mod
>>146053208
You forgot to complain about your dislike for playing Pontus, to sigh about /twg/'s eternity, and to have Aksum cuck the world.
>>146053208
You forgot 'what is the most reddit faction', 'anime get out' and 'orc postin' boyz'
>>146053245
Rightfully so
>>146052530
no cannons anon, final destination.
Gates breached so many monsters pouring through
centered all ironbreakers and my lvl 2 hero to hold the line but lvl 22 archaon is a monster
I pray to Khorne, Slaanesh, Tzeentch, Nurgle, the Great Horned Rat, Grimnir, Valaya, Gork, Mork, Ulric, Sigmar, Morrslieb, Morr, Nagash, Ranald, and the Lady that ONE DAY Cavalry charges in Total War will be just as heavy and damaging as the battle in tonights Game of Thrones episode.Elven gods a shit
One last poll shill
http://www.strawpoll.me/10530860/
>>146053516
>not praying to cool as fuck Kaela Mensha Khaine
>praying to the fat old boring bastard Khorne
ISHAYGDDT
>>146053485
well holy shit ironbreakers are op. they held against about 10-12 monsters and archaon and the explosives just shred chaos abominations.
>>146053684
>literally my moms god of war
>>146053516
What is Attila?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WFIPMc6r-Q
>>146053516
>Not Taal
>Not Rhya
>Not Shallya
>Not Ulric
>Not Manann
>Not Ursun
>Not Dazh
>Not Tor
>Not Handrich
>Not Lucan
>Not Luccina
>Not Olovald
>NotHashut
Really, you'd make a horrible cultist.
>>146052349
Zero because the fuckers never rout in high difficulties
Hey, you guys see the excellent tactics exhibited by the dastardly and cunning Ramsay Bolton in the latest Game of Thrones?
>I'll encircle their army with infantry running single-file! That's a good trick!
>the empire might send forces to raid your land for Dark Magic
>you tax your peasants/skeletons for Dark Magic
>you can trade furs and wine to dwarfs for Dark Magic
>you can entice dwarfs to sign NAPs, trade agreements, and military alliances with Dark Magic
>capturing a fishing port will greatly increase your Dark Magic
Defend this total wartards.
>>146053786
shorter version of the money shot with better quality.
>>146053768
>Hashut
You know what's gud
>>146053805
>Total War games are known for their realism
>Warhammer is known for its realism
:^)
>>146053786
>>146053914
Literally why were they standing around like headless chickens?
>>146053989
I just want to know how zombies fishing greatly stimulates the Dark Magic economy.
>>146053805
this bothered me too, they should have given VC and chaos 2 resources, the generic gold and the chaos favour/dark magic 2nd resource
>>146054064
Try to think of what would sound coolest to a 14 year old. That's the explanation.
t. Warhammer pro.
>>146054064
Maybe they sacrifice the fishwhy is that the fucking plural???or create monstrous fish zombies?
>>146053805
>implying that the empire doesn't want to steal dark magic from you so you don't raise more skeletons or some shit
>not taking the dark magic your peasants have laying around/they aren't using
>implying the dwarves wouldn't rather have wine and furs instead of some dark magic they have laying around
>more dark magic to buy more booze and clothes
>fish aren't the darkest beings on the planet that are the prime source of evil and dark energy
1 gold for 1 dark magic. if you got 50 dark magic laying around bring 'em to the bank to convert. cheap wine and furs.
>>146053786
lmao they could've just cut pikes
it's not even a real phalanx
>>146054289
>implying the empire has the proper coffers to store Dark Magic
>implying the peasants shouldn't own the means of Dark Magic production
>ok you got me there
>also fair enough
>also makes sense
3/5, well done.
>>146053786
That's gotta be the most pathethic "fight" I've ever seen.
>They just watch as they get surrounded by a spaghetti line of pikemen.
>Only start to consider breaking through once they're all formed up.
>Still don't even think of using their FUCKING GIANT to break gaps in the formation.
>>146053786
>Northern Leather Pikemen
>mfw Radious got a job in HBO
>>146054534
spoiler: it finally gets broken by le cavalry charge from the side meme.
>2016 Anno Domini
>soldiers still can't fall back without getting slaughtered
>there are people who actually take TW seriously
>>146054581
>its a cavalry charge comes in the very last minute to save the day yet again episode
How do I build my vamp genereals?
Should I max their leadership aura thing?
>>146054657
Also that.
They literally do the "horns blowing, then banners cresting the ridge" meme.
>>146054581
>Pikemen don't even try to turn around even when they see the cavalry coming already.
At least you can see some of them partying hard.
>>146054581
This is why you scout your shit
Ramsay was a phalanxmemer, he deserved to get hammer and anvil'd
Well lads, it's decided that I will have to learn latin
Wish me luck
>>146054795
Sed domi maneas paresque nobis novem continuas fututiones
>>146054795
Good luck anon. Do you speak any romance languages? 'Cause if so, it will be a lot easier.
>>146054828
I don't know what I expected
>>146054837
Native italian so I hope so.
>>146053989
In the original Total War: Shogun, I once watched a Kensai successfully defend a bridge against an entire brigade of enemy Samurai. In that moment the last vestiges of historical accuracy drained out of the series, never to return. It wasn't a great loss: the franchise is still the best wedding of tactical and strategic layers ever to grace a computer. But given the emptiness of its historical settings, it makes sense that Total War has finally ditched any pretence of simulation with the entirely pretend Total War: Warhammer.
Not that the result has much in common with either piece of source material. As a veteran of both, I started out utterly confused after an inexcusably bad tutorial and lack of instruction material. Miniature gamers will discover that tried and tested tabletop tactics don't work on these digital battlefields. Total War devotees, on the other hand, will find that while the mechanics are familiar, the vast diversity of new and bizarre units make the game play very differently to its predecessors.
Given how awful the learning curve is at the moment, it's tempting to stall on this until various bloggers and vloggers have got on the case to smooth it out. Patches will come, prices may drop. Those who like a challenge may wish to take the plunge now and learn the hard way. Either way, if you have the slightest interest then this is not a game to miss. In bringing fantasy to Total War, Creative Assembly have made both the best Total War game and the best fantasy strategy game to date.
>>146054759
He got his noob box all wrong
>>146054748
newfag fromgsghere
i own the rome 2 on steam. is there a way for me to pirate dlc on a legitimate copy of the game? i ask because that possible inparadox games
For downloading Master of Strategy for S2 on Steam, do I need to get all 8 parts?
Some of the parts say "avoid ultra unit sizes" but that seems like some pleb shit
1-2: Empire
3-4: Shogun 2
5-6: Attila
7-8: Warhammer
9-0: Fucking go play something on my backlog instead of replaying yet another TW campaign
>>146055538
do us all a favor and
>>146055538
Welp, I almost got free. Rollan >>146051905
>chariots rams into crossbowmen
>half of the unit flies away
>0 casualties, just lost a bit of health
Epic
>>146053516
>There are people who are still invested in watching GoT
I don't understand how anyone can give a shit anymore.
>>146055827
>literally my moms war of the roses
>>146055568
SUMMON
>>146055862
>implying it is
I don't even know what half the claims of the people fighting are, or why indeed they're fighting at all.
In fact, what is Dany's goal at this point? Wasn't her betacuck of a brother the guy who wanted to rule? She just wants penis.
> Tomb Kings still not announced
>>146055929
also, not to sound racist or anything but all the white people look the same. Its really confusing.
>>146055494
You might as well, you will see the custom fortresses once in your campaign, but holy shit are they fun, besides some minor bugs
>>146055929
That problem is like 4 times worse in the show than it is in the books, and it's already fairly bad in the books.
The fact that events have been shifted around in relation to each other and essential plotlines and characters deleted for the sake of brevity means that half the characters no longer have anything resembling coherent motivations, much less COMPELLING motivations.
>Darren
>Darren's Girlfriend
Why is life suffering
>>146056052
You're not me, don't add 'also' like you're tacking on a comment you forgot
>>146056052
Fuck you greenskin
>>146056095
Do I heed the warning and play on sub-Ultra unitsize?
>>146055929
Dany is turning into the Mad King 2.0: Dragon boogaloo
At least I fucking hope so, only way that shitty Mary Sue can get redeemed
>>146055463
bumpan
>>146056174
I dunno man, she's amusing since she's literally the albino hyperslut of the setting
She can be redeemed by mothering a new generation of dragons, becoming a mother the normal way this time.
>>146056143
Never tried in ultra size, but the mod does rarely crash, it may get worse in ultra
>>146056241
I think I saw an anon complain about some clipping issues on a siege map so maybe that's why
>>146056223
No, you cannot. Paradox games can do that simply because of how hilariously simple the actual DLC pack is as it's a rar file.
You don't need them though, since they for the most part only unlock factions for player use (the AI gets them whether or not you've bought the associated DLC) or add semi-scripted campaigns to the game. Get the blood pack though.
>>146056223
Don't really know, SEGA are turbojews so I'd doubt it
>>146056223
just pirate the entire game with all the dlc
>>146056343
>implying they can outjew Paradox
Reminder that the city states unit pack is literally just a set of palette swaps
>>146055827
>>146055929
total war cav is god tier.
>>146056434
What
>>146056293
I already own the blood pack and a few shitty culture packs. I really just want to campaign packs
>>146053245
Tomb Kings posting isn't shit posting, it's the only thing of value on this general.
>>146056541
>Settra does not shitpost, Settra memeposts
t. Settra
>>146053786
this is the dumbest formation I have seen since the Chinese Red Cliff movie
at least that had wacky kung fu choreography tho.
>>146051905
rolling
>>146056593
*shines a shield in your face*
*surrounds you*
*hit's you with 99999 hammer and anvils*
get routed... gaius.... psh, more like gayus.....
>>146056593
It's not that bad if you give the guy superhuman strength...which he's always given.
>>146056027
WE WUZ KANGZ
>>146051905
rollan
>>146056468
cavalry charges in total war have been based, unlike in /got/
>>146056740
Nothing from GoT is based though. Nothing at all at this point.
>>146053786
>all the giant had to do was kick the shield wall and it would tumble down.
DABID
>>146056710
the kung fu parts are great fun.
but the battle formations are pants on head
just saying this reminds me of the GoT scene
>>146053786
TACTICS
A
C
T
I
C
S
>there will never be a Total War: GoTthank god
>>146051905
Orc get.
>>146056774
/got/ is the best thing to happen to GoT.
Also, alfie allen is pretty good and sansa has pretty good feet.
>>146053786
>>146053914
>let's WATCH them surround us
>and let's pretend that a SINGLE FILE of pikemen has any sort of effect because pikemen are invincible amirite
>and let's go full fucking retard muh hate
>and let's have the fucking disney cav sweep the pikes off the field because Cannae xDDD
>>146056835
That's an actual fortification layout though, although I'm not sure if it was used at Chibi and it's supposed to be way fucking bigger.
>>146056835
>you will never noob box this hard
captcha: select all images with mountains
>>146056835
What's wrong with that formation, it's just boxes upon boxes of PAVEESE CROSSBOWMUN and spears.
>>146056930
>let's pray to god the enemy doesn't have bows, and they just blindly charge into us while ignoring most of our guys because they have big shields
>>146056835
The fuck was the point of that formation?
anyone got the Attila roll table?
>>146056979
That's not how the formation is supposed to work though, it's the TV producers being dumb as usual
The way it's supposed to work is that the shields themselves are man-height and work like miniature battlements / pavise while you put stakes in front or spears inside.
>>146056989
chinks showing that they are superior to the western devil.
At least their choreography is miles ahead of indian movies.
>>146056992
and the rome 2 one too, please
>>146057052
You're also meant to put troops inside the little paths, it's just a maze of ambushes, flank attacks and getting shot at by crossbows all around.
>>146057052
I didn't read it correctly, I didn't realize you just meant "layout" since it does look practical if you take it out of context of the scene. My bad.
>>146056835
>tfw Total War Three Kingdoms never
>tfw you will never have a loyal level 100 lord who can solo entire stacks on his own
>tfw no rescue baby mission
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Z8r8p17LU
>>146057180
It hurts.
>>146057180
>literally pikemen everywhere
no thanks family
>>146057169
Oh no, movie directors are fucking retards who can't even grab a guy to make good CG so I'm not defending the way it actually looked, I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with the formation itself.
>>146057180
>le hero meme
Stop it, I'm sick and tired of having a single person in Total War of all games solo half a fucking stack. Just bring back bodyguard troops, you're not describing Three Kingdoms, you're describing Romance of the Three Kingdoms which was literally historical fiction and advertised as such.
>>146057253
>
>>146057228
kek
>>146057294
they fell for the chink propaganda. Can't wait for SEGA to go full actiblizzard and pander to the chink market.
>>146057306
He should've killed the faggot, Liu Shan was an incompetent buffoon
>>146057180
>called Three Kingdoms
>play "Kong Rong's Bizarre Adventure" instead where you take the spotlight from Cao Cao and manage to take Si Shui Gate without Guan Yu, and Hu Lao Gate with your ragtag group ofpikemen
>>146057371
>propaganda
But even the fucking Chinks don't think RoTK is accurate or meant to be accurate, the actual histories of the period are available and don't, for example, mention Zhang Fei holding a bridge by himself, but they DO mention him basically rusing Cao Cao into thinking there was a huge relief force on the way at the bridge.
>>146057119
>>146057534
danke
>>146057535
drool
>>146057534
Rolling
We need a Pontus Spurdo
>>146057534
>>146057574
are pontus good or is it just a meme faction with a shitty roster?
>>146051905
>>146057534
>>146057535
>>146057806
we're lucky to have pontus
>>146057847
i know we are, but why?
>>146057835
What does she say afterwards
>>146057806
Thankful everyday for Pontus.
>>146057894
they were what we were waiting for
>>146057904
The screen fades to black and then theydiscuss history
>>146050315
>tfw my VC Lord got ambushed by Ugrim Ironfist last night
>looking at the units he's got a shit load of ironbreakers and other high-level units
>don't think I can beat him and the power meter is a bit in his favour
>quicksave and hit auto resolve
>it wipes him out and gives me a phyrric victory with all units still just barely alive
I'll take it. Quick question, if you have a Lord wipe out and his army destroyed to the last man does he return at some point like hero's do? Or is it permanent death for them?
Also, is it just me or are VC the cheesiest faction? Most of my battles against the AI involve using Manfredd or a Vamp hero on a Hellsteed flying over and using Spirit Leech or fate of bjuna to wipe out Lords and high value units. Without death magic they'd pretty much get fucked in the ass by everyone as far as I can tell.
>>146057904
"It's so warm being near you..." and then Pontus-san and Chihiro share a tender moment.
I bet Pontus is nice and warm.
>>146051905
R-r-r-r-rollan.
>>146058175
Most generic lords die a perma-death, but plenty where those came from. Legendary Lords die for 5 or fewer turns and then are available for re-recruitment later.
If you want to play a less Death magic reliant VC army I'd recommend going down the beast tree research and grabbing some bats/wolves/vargheists/terrorgheists for your army. Others have attested to the efficacy of crypt horrors, which I cannot confirm.
>>146057457
Why isn't there a Roman ROTK?
>>146056848
What would be the difference to Medieval 3 except the map though?
White walkers? OP dragons soloing a whole army?
>>146053705
We'll done bro.
>>146058412
Probably because it's way too long as a period.
>>146058429
Dany the legendary lord who can sleep with enemy agents to convert them
>>146058412
There is. Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars.
>Archaon peels off from main horde, past my armies to raze a useless village, dooming himself to death the next turn
why is the AI so fucking stupid still? why is 90% of this game not epic battles but running around in the woods chasing AI stacks that won't engage, what the fuck were they thinking?
>>146055656
That's what happens when you charge dwarfs.
>>146058648
Maize didn't exist in Europe at the time when Caesar wrote the Commentaries
>>146058890
American readers should be cautioned that the word "corn" in British usage can refer to any cereal grain, especially whatever is the principal grain of a region. Caesar therefore speaks of "corn" (frumentum), although he of course knew nothing of the New World cultigen that the British call "maize."
>the eternal general is dying
>official forums are the lowest it has been
>lowest record of people playing
>still no news of patches or DLC/FLC
CA will release something soon right guys? Right?
>>146058412
>>146058994
I'm pretty sure they'll announce something this week and release stuff next week (or announce something today and maybe release on thursday or friday)
>>146058994tomorrow
>>146059149
they handled post release pretty badly.
>>146058994
Really hope so. Blood would be nice, as would a patch.
>>146059207
That they did, I really hope they react and communicate a bit more from the next announcement on
>>146058994
>implying this general is dying
Just because we're not going through three threads a day doesn't mean it's dying.
When the generals go back to lasting two or three days, then you can worry.
actually managed to survive and beat the dwarfs on my 4th try
thanks whoever suggested boar boys
>https://steamdb.info/app/364360/history/
Can't access from work but it seems that the 'release_candidate' was updated, that could mean there will be a patch very soonthanks reddit
Space Total War when?
>>146058317
Cool, thanks bro.
I always think the bats and wolves are weak as fuck, plus I'm pretty late game now so they are outclassed by everything. Terrorgheists are cool but never seem to do quite enough damage. Great for fending off missile cav and artillery if you can stop them being bum rushed by infantry but all their units seem at best so-so to me. Grave guards are decent damage sponges I guess and cairn wraith seem to be good flanking infantry. Their cav is only OK though, even the hexwraiths and shock cav. All their units seem a bit underwhelming late game and it's really only death magic that stops them getting their shit pushed in as far as I can tell. They go from Varghulfs being able to solo armies early game to only being alright late on.
>>146059490tommorow
>>146059490
Never, hopefully.
what's the Pontus release about?
>>146058994
Its all ogre
>>146059636BUT
Reminder, don't piss off Top Knotz until you are ready.
>>146059767
is that a mod, I've never seen them come at me like that.
>>146059808
Vanilla. It was 2 lords + their waaghs.
>>146059884
that's pretty epic
>>146057376
Getting dropped on his head as a baby might have been a contributing factor to that.
>Warhammer released
>this means Medieval 3 will probably come after 10 years or even never
fuck this
So I learned this battle that if you stick narrow columns of handgunners in between high threat units like greatswords or halberdiers in your battle line the AI is not inclined to attack them, allowing them to pepper away with minimal micro the entire battle.
Had 4 units of them and they noscoped almost 1000 orcs between them.
Also if you can't be fucked with keeping tabs on your outriders, just putting them right behind your frontline regiments allow them to shoot over them from their horses throughout the battle.
>>146059574
I find the main trick with VC is morale breaking. Half the time my units wouldn't get a massive number of kills just because we break enemy infantry faster than we kill them. And yeah, your flying monsters work like cavalry that are faster, more manoeuvrable but more difficult to disengage. I usually just send them after missile cav or into the backs of a melee line. It does make it a pain to fend off the Chaos stacks though, which are generally full of heavy infantry that win in melee decisively and don't take very much morale damage.
>>146059957
Thank god.
Maybe before too long the /his/shits will finally have fucked off for good and the true inheritors of the Eternal General will reign.
>>146059767
>mfw I though that massive horde of green was a forest at first
Holy shit.
>>146060002
Yeah, the damage they do to leadership is their saving grace I guess. Maybe I'm just having a hard time cause I'm facing dwarfs with them for the first time and between ironbreakers being nigh unkillable, masses of artillery and missile troops and pretty high leadership all round. I'm sure I'll get the better of them soon though, cheer m8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72KPXOphYMo&feature=youtu.be
;_;
>those fucking models
has anyone cracked Warhammer yet?
>>146061274
>>146061308
Who the fuck is this and why do I see her everywhere
>>146061308
Thats widowmaker from Blizzards new shooter overwatch
>>146061274
>Denuvo
>"cracked"
Piracy is over
Deleted a bunch of S2 and starting up a fresh install for Master of Strategy.
I can only hope that an Understander of Strategy like myself is ready for the Master.
>>146061475
Is she a slut or something?
>>146061587
they're all sluts anon
Help me out /twg/. On this PC i have Attila, Shogun 2 and Warhammer available. I have the day off and i want to spend it going with as much cavalry as possible and smashing my enemies with constant charges. But i cant quite decide who to use out of all the choices available. Any suggestions?
>>146061635
I don't understand
>>146061665
Attila
Huns
>>146061714
you will understand when you're older
can someone explain food reserves in Attila?
>>146061665
Shogun 2
Takeda
>>146050443
>>146061665
Warhammer with Demigryphs but they're so broken right now its not even funny
Theres also Attila with ERE, Huns and Sassykids
>>146061908
The handsome gentlesir patricians on reddit dispense just criticism yet again!SKAVEN WHEN MAN-THINGS?
>>146061908
I want to vomit
>>146060847
>Napoopan did all the work
>Antiochus holds up the trophy
>>146062338
>Can barely even see Napoopan because of all those meme blender heads
At least we get the shot of him at the start
Why the hell do people recommend the divide and conquer mod for third age? It's basically radious cancer. Rohan dwarven infantry, super plate armor warg riders, and unit stats are all over the place.
>>146050606
>implying
The army got surrounded by sitting still unlike Cannae where what happened was more or less the Romans surrounded themselves.
ded
>>146061908
>>146061908
>>146061908
there is no god.
>>146057535
roll
Is 4chan kinda fucky atm? Half the time I get 'website is offline'.
And still no patch, fuck this
This is Thermopylae on the coast of mainland Greece. I'm Matthew Settle.
In August 480BC, an army of only 7000 men led by Leonidas and 300 Spartans fought here against a quarter-million strong invasion force led by Xerxes, the King of Persia. At stake: the future of Greek civilization.
Now with new video game technology, you are about to see this great battle as never before. The vast numbers of soldiers, the troop formations, how they fought and how the battle was won. Get the view the generals wish they had: now, on Decisive Battles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M4w-82iVXs
>>146060225
Grave guards with great weapons are the key to defeat dwarfs
>>146061741
>losses
>1
>>146061741
>>146064817
Shamefur dispray, that one
>>146064817
Who is this handsome fellow
>>146061665
Shogun 2 with Takeda
>>146061665
Napoleon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97dBfdNrf9A
>empire
>poles go for my undefended silesia, have a stack around warsaw so I take their capital
>hey so let's just peace out, you take back your capital and you give me silesia back
>NUH
>they won't take their capital for some less important town
>start whittling them down because all of their other cities were undefended
>hey, just give me back silesia and I'll give you ALL of your cities back
>NUH
and so poland was wiped out
sometimes I wonder why I play this game
>>146065626
Those huge body piles are ridiculous.
>>146065626
>total war medieval 3
We really need it. Medieval 2 is so outdated and I feel like a lot of people would like to remove kebabs with a new engine.
>>146065626
What is that supposed to show?
>>146065626
>not sending the pikes in first and use cav to hammer and anvil
>opening with a cav charge and throwing your cav away
>leaving your flanks exposed
>shooting arrows into your own men
>getting this BFTO by Jon Snow and his rabble
Roose died for this shit.
>>146065523
This seems like the worst calvary charge of all time. Is that just movie liberties or did the french really fuckup a charge that badly they just ran horses into a firing squad like that?
>>146066173
French fucked up plus horses won't charge into blocks of men with bayonets.
>>146065626
Wait, so who's getting encircled and whose cav is that?
>>146066173
Ney fucked up. He thought the british was going to withdraw when they moved behind the ridge. He ordered a mass cav charge without infantry support.
>>146066341Jon Snow and the Wildling Bunch in the middle confused by a phalanx encirclement getting deus ex machina'd by THE KNIGHTS OF THE VALE who have cav that are super effective against pikes
>>146066173
wasn't it the first time they used Square formations ever?
>>146066724
Is this some teleporting Littlefinger shit again?
>tfw play the Dawi
>Get a Grudge that needs settling
>Assassinate someone belonging to the following faction:Dwarfs
>It already reached 8 due to being unable to complete it
How the fuck do I fix this?
I can't assassinate one of my own, or do I just need to kill someone from the nearby Karaks?
>>146066173
The whole point of squares is that horses refuse to charge them if they can just go around it, getting shot and slaughtered in the process.
The charge wasn't ordered by Napoleon though.
>>146066846
>wasn't it the first time they used Square formations ever?
>Waterloo
>>146066986
Could you disband them?
>>146065905
no we dont, med2 is still playable and most nostalgia filled autists will prefer it anyway, making 3 games in a row that are all more or less the same is dull too, they need a new setting
Who /kurwa/ here?
>>146067051
This is my current situation. I can't send my heroes to kill one of my lords nor my other heroes. I have no idea what I need to do right now.I also just got those last two grudges so I'm working on removing those too.
What is the best cav faction in Rome 2, excluding the horse lords?
Want to do some heavy cavalry charges but don't want to play any horsefuckers tbqh.
>>146067553
>>146067728
parthia because of the heavy cataphracts
>>146067728
Successor states and Carthage both have good cavalry, dunno how good in vanilla. Iberians also have pretty great heavy cav in DeI at least.
Are there any mods that model Gyrocopters with human pilots?
I want to make a human wizard that has a Gyrocopter as his flying mount. Is this possible and/or does it already exist?
>>146068231
it already exists
>>146068231
>>146065905
This.
Med2 basically need 'just' some better graphics, AI & diplomacy, and it's pretty much perfect for the Medieval times.
OTOH, you could just leave it as is for deeper immersion into the REALLY Medieval times.
>>146061908
FUCKING NORMIES
>>146068478
What about fixing the outdated campaign and broken battles?
>Persian army under Xerxes had 250K men at Thermopylae
>Persian army under Darius had 250K men at Gaugemela
Do Persians shit out doomstacks or something
>>146067586
Just a guess, but maybe try to get a rebellion going in the silver road province. Like, destroy all your public order buildings and maybe raid there a bit. Then try to assassinate the general of the rebellion army. Hopefully this'll get patched soon.
>>146068565
>empire with (by far) the biggest population of the time
>surprised when they shit out doomstacks
>>146068557
As I said: better AI and diplomacy.
Also: outdated campaign? Hell no!
Broken battles & sieges are spot on, tho.
There is no end to this money in Lybia, they must have found oil or something. Ancient Egypts were driving cars afterall.
>>146068743
> M2's campaign was perfect
>>146068608
This actually sounds like a smart idea. Gonna be a pain to destroy the High Throne though, but anything to get rid of this Grudge.
Thanks anon, I'll try it.
>>146061908
Why does everyone on Reddit talk like that?
>>146068963
brain damage
>>146068908
campaign mechanics, yes.
AI and diplomacy, no.
1 aye vs. 2 nay - quit pretending I didn't point out the flaws.
>>146069242
I agree
>>146069385
Oh yes, we're in agreement on that!
>>146068685
population is irrelevant, a small shit single state can turtle up and create doomstacks up the ass, total war taught me that.
>>146051905
Rolling
>>146069524
Israel
>>146069356
>campaign mechanics, yes.
>>146069242
dude I love reddit but I totally agree
Ballista or Giant Ballista in Rome 2?
>>146068897
Why is Rome 2's campaign map so ugly?
>>146069630
Damn, time to fapGeiger Counter = GOAT
>>146069704
Try hellstrom battery or mortars
>>146065905
MED 3 WHEN
WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
>>146069632
i use it sometimes, but i use common sense and avoids those shitty fedora tippin' commentators.
>>146069856
Never. Histfag games simply aren't as profitable as fantasy.
>Adopt a member of the rival family in Rome 2
>More overall Gravitas because of it
>Total influence goes down regardless of it and never really recovers.
GREAT system.
EMPIRE 2 FUCKING WHEN?
>>146069878
AAAAAAHHHHHH GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT
>>146069934
>no news
>>146068608
Small update; Got to hear it is indeed a bug and will be patched in the next update.Still thanks for the advice.
As the Empire, should I expand South/West into Bretonnia and Estalia and Tilea, or North/East into the rest of the Empire?
>>146070759
South/West is better. Bretonnia's only real threat early game are their infantry, which are actually pretty decent, but their AI normally Cav spams.
Estalia and Tilea are basically the Empire Lite.
Most importantly, by going South-west you leave all your allies to deal with those Skaeling and Chaos shits. You also have great natural borders in the sea, as Skaeling basically never sail that far west, meaning you can leave the new provinces all but unguarded.
Uh Fritz, pretty sure the front of the cannon faces TOWARDS the enemy...
>>146070759
Uniting the empire might be the most obvious option but letting the other provinces grow strong is really useful for when chaos invades. Ostland had all of the northern empire while I had all of the south in my game. We wrecked the chaos shits hard.
Marienburg is something you definitely should conquer fast though.
>>146071225
did you notice that you're the only one playing histfag games? Why?
>>146071225
>>146071249
I dislike taking Marienburg, if only because of Gorssel being a short swim away from Felman Ingersson. I really like having the provincial commandment too, while taking Marienburg and razing Gorssel would leave it open to recolonization by Todbringer, which would be irritating.
>>146071340
i'm also playing a histfag game
>>146071340
>>146071340
Consider suicide.
>>146071447
>Gorssel being a short swim away from Felman Ingersson
I heard a lot of people had that problem but that never happened to me. It might have been because Ostland got really strong early in my game and kept beating back all the norscan naval invasions.
Grossel was threatened by Karak Norn one time though.
SUMMON THE ERECT CUNTS
How do you move onto a spectator slot in an online lobby on tww?
I just don't get why after the Sengoku Jidai when Japs mastered western gunpowder weapons why in the fuck didn't China do the same?
Instead they got rekt by bongs a few centuries later
Where do I expand as the Saga in FOTS?
I took the first couple of islands, and found myself surrounded by allies, before my starting ally dragged me into a war with the Aizu (who I had no clue where to find and sailed along the coast searching for them until I hit Fukushima).
I don't like being this spread out.
>>146071704
SUMMON THE FAT VAMP TATS
>>146072191
Different circumstances. If the Japs didn't evolve they would have been subjugated.
Also it wasn't just the bongs, every European power rektd them.
>>146072191
China didn't have a lot of threatening external enemies, mostly. Also their internal conflicts didn't call for going full pike and shot(like what almost happened to the japs) for some reason.
>>146072481
>China didn't have a lot of threatening external enemies
Then what the fuck they build that giant wall for?
>>146072579
to keep out mexicans
>>146072309
Can you guys please rek the globalists by voting leave in the EU referendum?
>>146072579
That's ancient stuff. Not really relevant to gunpowder modernization.
>>146072579
>>146072619
>they have to go back, they HAVE too.
>i have many mongol friends, i have great respect for mongolia but they have to leave and they can come back in legaly, LEGALY
>>146072579
To keep the chinamen in.
>>146072278
Just grab the whole island, the Saga start with shitloads of money so it'll be ultra easy.
Unrelated but why do my champions in Rome refuse to get the training skill, I'm traiting them for zeal but it doesn't show up anymore.
>>146072786
goddamn Mexicans keeps raiding our provinces ILLEGALLY, we need the wall to prevent this.
>>146071447
Just camp shitloads of soldiers in Marienburg, and build a wall in Gorssel.
The enemy AI basically never attacks walls, so you've got 10+ turns to march an army over.
And if they do attack they'll lose, because the Garrison + Towers will probably annihilate most of their army, and they've got literally nothing but Marauder cav and dogs as a threat.
>>146072910
>>146072786
>tfw you'll be able to build the great wall as a tile improvement in Civilization 6
The Trump mods will be amazing.
Might do a roleplay let's play on youtube cuz of the hilarity
>>146064231
Never forget our synctube adventures, friends. We had some good times watching these for hours together.
>>146072638
Yeah so Scotland leaves the UK as well.
>an empire on which the sun never sets
>>146073145
Not him but I play Empire legendary and I never take Marienburg since when I did literally six (6) Skaeling stacka sailed from Norsca to raid and siege the city
>>146073145
True, but while I'm setting up walls in Gorssel, I'll have to camp a fullstack or so in there to deter Skaeling, which I'd much rather have assisting me in Bretonnia, given that half the country is walled castles instead of hovels.
>>146073248
>The great wall of America
sounds pretty comfy
>>146073248
>hilarity
ayy lmao
>>146061908
Pelennor Fields was shit though.
>>146073367
Eh. Never had that problem.
Then just advance into Bretonnia. Assholes have 0 natural problems to deal with apart from one VC faction who tend to get into wars with every other Bret faction at the same time.
If I don't get an opportunity to take Marienburg, then I tend to just focus on Bretonnia. Allying with Karak Ziflin and Karak Norn also helps a lot.
>>146066910
Yep.
He hid an army outside Winterfell without anyone noticing.
dis is da plan
ye, ye?
>>146073364
>letting Scotland determine your future and freedom
>being intimidated by Scotland
I also can't understand them. Seriously they are retarded. They want to leave the UK which is an alright functional union and instead join the EU which strips them of all thei freedom and is a non functional union
>>146073603
Those Dwarves are so useful. I've literally declared the Skaeling settlements as targets, and seem them march stacks across half the world to raze those towns. Really helps, since the Empire is normally too busy taking on the main Chaos force to attack their settlements.
>>146072191
>mastered gunpowder weapons
They really didn't though. They copy/pasted what the portugese brought with them, and stayed at that exact same level for almost 300 years.
>>146073657
The fuck is panzee?
>>146073657
>wastn toim goin aroun insteada straif tru
Ged a load a dis humie
>>146073804
dakka stunties
Reminder for Bretonnians to vote OUT in the Elf Union referendum.
>>146073657
you iz muckin' about
>>146073769
True true. So what they stayed with matchlocks until the fall of the Shogun?
Didn't they add ironsights to their matchlocks though? That's an invention
>>146073367
>>146073438
>Bretonnia
Does this faction exist purely to be conquered by the Empire? I mean, they use massed cavalry when the baseline Empire trooper uses a spear.
Their only threat are their infantry, which they rarely ever make enough of.
>>146074204
They exist to defend the code of chivalry and protect the realm
>>146074204
The paper/rock/scissor system of total war doesn't reflect the reality or the table top game.
>>146074204
you should see their blood bowl team
>>146074272
And to get BTFO by the Empire?
Also, isn't the Lady actually an Elf Goddess who's been tricking them into being her guards for the last few thousand years?
>>146074460
Not really, the Empire has many other actual problems to deal with and Bretonnia is sometimes a decent ally
Yes, they are elf cucks
>>146074460
In the lore, she genuinely does care about the brettonians, and I read in the lore once that it's not too uncommon to see brettonian lords and errant knights in wood elf banquetsbut yeah, she's been fooling them about the whole "living goddess" thing.
>>146074380
To be fair, an army consisting of 90% cavalry should get absolutely beat the fuck out by an army consisting mostly of Spearmen, Halberdiers and gunmen/crossbowmen, even in reality.
There's also the fact that basically all Knights hold positions of authority, so there should be a power struggle after basically every major fight they have, win or lose, as there's now tons of open positions.
>>146074460
The Lady is one of the Elven Gods yes, but I don't see how you can argue that she is "tricking" them
They don't provide any kind of real service for her, she doesn't do it for the Wood Elves (Who she is on cool terms with) and the blessings she gives the Bretonnians are very real.
Her care for the Bretonnian people is genuine, as the world ends she even takes the founder of Bretonnia to be her husband.
>>146074457
Now I'm curious, how does their BB team looks like?
>>146074725
The founder is the Green Knight, I'm guessing?
Man, what a stud.
>>146074000
>He doesn't want a qt elf mistress to sit on his face.
>>146074679
No. There are many more factor in a real battle than muh rock-paper-scissor.
And cavalry>all in the table top game, which why they're always so expensive.
>>146073657
All plans must be done in Orc speak hence forth.
>>146074752
completely mundane humans but with bad skill access
their knights have passing and the linemen are as sturdy as wood elves. also no big guy, whilst regular humans at least get an ogre
they just get smashed to pieces by orcs/chaos/ect. and outmaneuvered by elves
>>146074578
>>146074460
Here's what Bretonnia has to deal with:
Orcs, occasionally.
A single shitty vampire faction.
Druchii raiders, every so often.
Here's what the Empire has to deal with:
Orcs all the time.
Beastmen living in basically every single forest.
Skaven living under basically all their cities (Though barely anyone in the Empire actually knows this)
Norse raiders all the time
Massive faction(s) of Undead living right on their doorstep
Massive hordes of daemons and chosen warriors pouring out of the North every few hundred years
Only Kislev possibly has it harder.
The Empire has bigger things to worry about than the occasionally useful Kingdom to the west.
But yes, the full might of the Empire would walk all over Bretonnia.
>>146074849
>The founder is the Green Knight, I'm guessing?
Yes, the Green Knight is basically the ghost of Gilles le Breton kept immortal by the Lady's magic.
If anything the Elves are the cucks, having one of their pure Elven Goddesses take the BHC for all eternity.
>>146073364
Reminder that Scotland was given a choice and Scotland voted to stay in the UK. It's what Scotland wants.
>>146075058
Bretonnia has Beastmen too, plenty of them infact.
The more ambitious Norse raiders sometimes raid in Bretonnia as well.
So is this game NOT going to have blood and gore DLC now that matched combat and one-to-one animation no longer in place?
Does CA really want to stick with the Teen rating, even moreso with this 'high fantasy' game?
The fuck?????
>>146075058
Don't Bretonnia have Beastmen sallying out from the Forest of Artois and Athel Loren? I also recall that the Massif Orcal should have Greenskin tribes.
Theoretically, they should also have border disputes with Estalia and Tilea due to them sharing a land border (albeit one guarded by the Vaults). Still, it's not unreasonable that an enterprising Hannibal could march an army over the Vaults perhaps.
>>146075095
>Nicola Sturgon telling the Scots that leaving the UK, where they have representation in parliament and centuries old laws that limit government, is somehow better for them
>mfw Nicola Sturgon is an EU whore
>>146074879
>many more factors
The Empire has huge tactical and strategic advantages. The Bretonnians would have to have genius leaders, and the Empire be led by absolute retards to pull wins out regularly in any kind of real campaign.
The Empire having many, many bigger problems is the only reason they haven't blown those annoying horselords out centuries ago. That, and the fact that when the Brets get their charge off, they can be genuinely devastating against less organized factions.
And in tabletop, the Emp still wins, because Cav does normally dominate and Demigryphs are almost as overpowered on the tabletop as they are in-game.
>>146075286
>paying for blood and gore in video game
>>146061741
>filename
>1 casualty
>>146074460
>And to get BTFO by the Empire?
the Ladys magic literally protects them fro pike and shot.
They can say a prayer and then take a literal canonball to the face and keep charging like it was nothing
>>146075313
>>146075095
I don't get how Scots don't realise their own politicians are selling the mout for the EU. it's so obvious and it's disgusting
>freshly spawned rebels have 2 fucking steam tanks, demigryph knights and a rocket battery
Who the fuck funds these shits
>>146075189
>>146075287
Bretonnia does have beastmen, but most of Bretonnia is plains, as opposed to the Empire, which is festooned with forests.
This means that only a few Dukedoms have to worry about beastmen regularly, whereas literally every Province has beast men problems. Except maybe Sylvania. The beastmen in Bretonnia also focus most of their efforts on Athel Loren, whereas the Beastmen in the Empire have nothing to focus their efforts on except the Empire.
Nordland is right opposite Norsica, so gets the lion's share of Norse raids.
The Empire also borders Blackfire Pass, which Orcs pass through all the time from the Badlands.
Bretonnia is massively sheltered from the vast majority of the Old World's real threats, which is how they've managed to maintain their incredibly impractical system.
>>146074725
Her true love was an Elf whom she elevated to godhood alonhside their daughter.
Also Jerrod the hero and his Brets disagree with you and was horrified at the truth of the Lady. She used them and cast them away. Even the souls of the dead were used as puppets for his agenda.
>>146075845
doesn't the Brettonian knights also regularly hunt down beastmen whilst the Empire is too busy with othe treaths to do that?
>>146075898
>Also Jerrod the hero and his Brets disagree with you and was horrified at the truth of the Lady. She used them and cast them away. Even the souls of the dead were used as puppets for his agenda.
>implying end times is canon
>>146075920
Only if Leoncoeur feels like declaring an Errantry War. It must also be remembered that because of their fucktarded feudal system, the flower of their knighthood tends to go missing or cut down regularly either in Grail Quests or in said Errantry Wars, so it's not as though they can field military support to the Erect Cunts 24/7.
>>146075845
That's fair enough. I'd also just remembered that Orion likes to sally forth with his Wild Hunts every now and then, but it's practically a seasonal thing in eastern Bretonnia, so it's not a threat so much as special weather conditions.
>>146074725
Except she flat out states that she's been using them to create a shield around Athel Loren,and in the end, intends to use them and everyone else to buy time for the new Elvish world to have some peace and quiet.
She dies getting stabbed by Teclis and having her divine energy used to teleport everyone to Middenheim.
>>146076019
It's canon, quit being salty. Getting tired of your triggered autism, anon.
>>146075552
who /finnmongol/ here
>>146075920
Bretonnia is actually one of the most aggressive factions, since they have a very martial culture and, as mentioned, not that many outlets for it.
They do hunt beastmen, and also declare crusades on foreign powers. They waged a pretty massive crusade on Araby, for example. The also occasionally go into Nehekhara, which rarely works out well for them. Ever. Seriously, they've gotten BTFO incredibly hard any time they've ever touched the place, and they keep trying.
>>146076135
Her stern features cracked a little during the exchange which indicates that she has some regret.
Ah,..I recalled something. I believe she stated that she started to feel sympathy for mortals after she was turned to one after her power waned. She started to have mortal feels. Which explains why she regreted some of her actions in the very end.
>>146076019
>saying implying end times is canon
>when you used an event from an End Times novel (that didn't actually happen) as evidence for her caring about the Brets
Really now?
>that new GoT episode
hold me /twg/
just this once
>>146076501
Well, yeah. She did regret what she did once she lost the self-assuredness of godhood.
Which actually bit her in the ass, since she tried to convince Jerrod what she had done was necessary by telling about Haven, and Be'Lakor was listening in along with the Chaos Gods.
Still doesn't mean the Bretonnia's aren't her puppets with their entire culture based on a lie that only benefits the top 1% of their population.
>>146076642
Why is Ramsay so stupid with tactics
>>146075797Solland
>>146076642
>mfw people are seriously comparing the battle to cannae
>>146076710
Everyone was stupid with tactics.
>>146076549
I'm not the same guy and no I don't count end times as canon since they'll retcon it after the sucess of TWW
>>146076845
>>mfw people are seriously comparing the battle to cannae
who are? normies orunderstanders?
>People actually defending Bretonnia
>A land where 95% of the population pays a 90% tax rate to Lords who abuse them horribly
>seriously some lords actually kill peasants who look at their pegasi
>A land where the dominant religion is based on a lie told by an elven goddess to manipulate them into defending Athel Loren
>A land which often declares wars on factions which actively defend it from the vast majority of the actual threats of the Old World
>>146077193
I know, right? Bretonnia are the Tau of fantasy.
>>146076710
Because the showrunners are actual, unapologetic retards.
>>146076642
>>146076710
>>146076845
>>146076881
>>146077193
But muh chivalry...
>>146077193
>>A land where 95% of the population pays a 90% tax rate to Lords who abuse them horribly
small price to pay for net getting raped by beastmen
>>seriously some lords actually kill peasants who look at their pegasi
keep your eyes to the ground then filth
>>A land where the dominant religion is based on a lie told by an elven goddess to manipulate them into defending Athel Loren
Empire propaganda
>>A land which often declares wars on factions which actively defend it from the vast majority of the actual threats of the Old World
Chivalry demands it
>>146077134
Mostly normies
>>146077382
Get out, Bretonnian scum.
So I told Marius to insult the duke's wife....he actually did the THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN.
>>146077193
>no TW game that let's you encircle an enemy with a pike wall and slaughter them to a man
how do you fuck it up this bad?
>>146077820
Gotta love the feudal system. You might get put in a gibbet for no reason, or you might get a free meal sometimes. Depends on the Lord.
>>146077820
>>146077951
That said, while the Bretonnian nobility are not entirely deprived of morality, they are, to a man, deprived of common sense.
>>146077873
>mountain of corpses
>>146077820
Does that mean that Lord Laurent spend literally every night sleeping outside his own bedchamber, listening to peasants fuck?
I mean, if you think about how many people get married in an entire Dukedom, sometimes there must be dozens of peasants in there, with Laurent just chilling outside.
>>146078069
Even better that it fucking appeared out of nowhere.
>>146075390
>demigryph
>against bretonnia
>on tabletop
lmao
>>146077873
They quite literally just stared at the pikemen as they encircled them.
But, really, I think the worst offender of all this episode was Sansa. Daenerys did the same shit she always does (ha ha you don't have dragons and I do so I win), so that was to be expected, the battle was finally something I would actually call arcade because really? Fucking playing pacman? And so on and so forth. But Sansa appearing at the very end with reinforcements she told no one about and still daring to smirk and act tough after she basically left all the army to die is just fucking infuriating. Then again, I don't recall a single moment during the series where Sansa felt useful or sympathetic.
>>146077873
>that pic
ahahahahaq I don't even need to see that scene. how the fuck did they let that happen? like you literally have to help the enemy box you in like that
>>146078156
makes sense that a cavalry clash round result in mountains of corpses dotted sporadically about the battlefield.
>>146077865
>no
Compelling argument.
>>146077873
>oh noes we're surrounded by twice as less men armed with pikes at close range, what could we possibly do except slowly back away while getting poked to death?
>>146078029
This idiocy is not merely a noble affectation, but seems common to Bretonnians as a whole.
>>146078112
Lord Laurent isn't Duke Artois: nobility has a rank structure going along the lines of King, Duke, Baron, Lord and Knight.
King owns the lot, Dukes hold duchies, Barons hold fiefs that are owed directly to the king, Lords hold fiefs owed to the duchy, and Knights own fuck all land and just sit about as professional military and/or politicians until some other bugger kindly pops his clogs.
So Lord Laurent is a minor noble under Duke Artois. Also, Artois is one of the few Bretonnian duchies that actually suffers a serious threat from Beastmen, with much of its land area being in the Forest of Arden. Eastern Artois is very similar to the Empire in that it's a bunch of walled villages surrounded by fucking forest and rape happy beastmen. Thus, Lord Laurent's practice might not be as silly as it sounds.
>>146077873
Alexander would've been proud
>>146078640
Wait, really?
>Don't be retarded and store food properly
>Become filthy rich
>>146078831
Well, it's from a 2nd ed WFRP sourcebook, but I'd like to think it's canon.If you're that interested in having legitimate and lore-friendly grounds to insult Bretonnia and assorted provinces of the Empire, I highly recommend WFRP 2nd ed source books: "Knights of the Grail" and "Sons of Sigmar".
>>146078373
There's no historical precedent for a battle looking remotely like that. Even if one side is incompetently handled at every turn battles don't devolve into that. Its just blindly obvious that the writers don't understand very simple concepts of pitched battle and they tried to hide it with the spectacle of Jons horrific experience but instead it just seemed amateur and underwhelming.
>>146078395
They literally.
LITERALLY
Stand still with a fearful face looking at them making the formation around them.
>>146078640
>>146078831
No idea where he pulled this shitty text but it's not in the army books, this doesn't reflect the lore at all.
>>146077873
its so stupid that they were watching 3 ranks deep pikemen encircle them without even trying to engage them, and the unarmed giant, fucking hell
the scene would be a lot less stupid if the pikemen started surrounding them from a greater distance, not freaking 2 meters
>>146079000
Well, here's the source if you're keen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Industries for reference. Seems pretty lore-friendly to me.
>>146079059
>>146077873
>>146078373
How would the factions of Game of Thrones deal with, say, any of the Warhammer factions?
>>146078516
I don't need any argument, you've clearly never played tabletop.
Is there any disagreement that this is the shittiest army tactic every used in a movie?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMLcd-zobJ0
>well secured pike wall complete with perfectly arranged shields, heavily armored units braced for impact and 100% ready
>being charged by soldiers that are guaranteed to get ripped to shreds
>elves fucking jump in between charging horde and fortified spear wall of death
>should get impaled and serve as a nice platform to climb over
>dwarves should rout after seeing hundreds of their allies killed on their weapons
I can barely fucking watch this scene. They had the PERFECT set up to defend and then they fuck it up in the worst fucking way and still win
>>146079328
They wouldn't. They would lose, big time. The Empire alone would steamroll all of Westeros, hell I bet Brettonia could given a bit more time. Only thing that might stand a chance are the White Walkers, and I still bet a full Chaos invasion is much, much worse.
>>146079328
Badly.
>Dwarves pump out Valyrian steel tier stuff for basic footsoldiers
>Orcs completely overpower all but the best trained and armoured soldiers in melee
>Chaos spits magic everywhere, which no-one knows how to deal with
>Empire uses proper artillery and has a functional economy on top of access to magic and griffins
>Vampire Counts do basically everything the White Walkers do, except better
>>146079328
I dont know much of warhammer lore, but they would certainly get wrecked, did you see the gate on the city that is seat of power of the greatest northern house? its a tiny wooden piece of shit, they absolutely cannot manage any kind of fortifications and their supposedly brilliant generals are completely retarded
>>146079446
the best part is the dwarves being a hundred yards away and the elves managing to get to the line in seconds after being ordered
>>146079328
Any single faction would walk all over Westeros. They're either more advanced technologically, physically more powerful, have real magic or a combination of these factors.
>>146079328
aren't they already gonna get fucked by what is essentially the vampires aka white walkers?
>>146079605
inb4 Littlefinger as head Tzeench follower
>>146079813
The White Walkers are essentially like on single vampire clan, and certainly not the Von Carsteins. The White Walkers are fucking tuesday in Stirland.
>>146079328
They're literally worried about White Walkers, who are Vampire Counts with nothing but zombie stacks.
>>146079918
>The White Walkers are fucking tuesday in Stirland
okay that got me
>>146078407
Even when there were more corpses in those piles than there were soldiers in the entire full battle shots.
>>146065626
you've got 2-3 lines of fucking pikemen why the fuck wouldn't you just turn them around
>>146053914
>sitting there and letting yourself be encircled by pikemen
I don't watch GoT but those niggers better be under a fucking sleep spell or something, otherwise I don't know how anyone takes this show seriously
>>146078975
>Stand still with a fearful face looking at them making the formation around them.
holy shit. I'm a bit triggered
>>146079316
All WHFRP content is GW approved too.
>>146080370
>>146080323
seriously watch that bit its well worth a chuckle, its like the BAIN scene from batman, you can watch it as a standalone thing and laugh at have absurd it is
Can someone explain to me the difference between the gyrocopters (normal and brimstone), and gyrobombers in tabletop/lore? I'm seeing if I can make them good, and using the lore as a starting point is better than changing stats blindly. Is there a reason we get one gyrobomber, and 4 copters? Why do they have different kinds of bombs with different stats?
>>146079656
To be fair the set design in Game of Thrones is mostly fucking atrocious and completely undersells what is described in the books.
Case in point, pic related is what George R. R. Martin intended the Iron Throne to actually look like.
>>146072579
To deter raids by making it prohibitively difficult to go around the wall, loot a city, and actually carry it all the way back around the damn wall.
>>146072191
They did for a bit, the Ming and Qing dynasties had periods where they had gunpowder corps only for them to be abolished, reinstated, re-abolished, updated and reinstated, and abolished again.
Biggest problem was that they just didn't fucking need to, even in the 1600s if Europe tried to fuck with China they'd probably have gotten beaten flat.
>>146080425
So is BL and most of it is not canon.
>>146064335
Ah-ha! Never thought of that for some reason. I've been using the red background ones as damage sponges for some reason. I'll swap some of them out.
>>146081117
>not canon
In your dreams grognard
>>146079328
Nigger nobody in westeros even stands a chance against a stack of Gothic Warbands besides horseniggers and that's literally only because they're manlet huns who the warbands can't catch
>histfag
>all this hate towards the hist
fucking cats i can smell your jealousy from here
>>146081301
BL is in that nebulous tone where it is canon but it can also be overwritten at literally any time by higher ranked sources like armybooks and the writers generally make no effort to avoid contradicting BL stuff.
>>146079328
poorly
>>146081393
Go back to your waifu board
>>146081376
>mfw imagining Attila sacking and razing the entirety of Westeros
I'd like to see someone drop the Huns from Atilla into TW:W just to see how well they would do. I imagine they'd destroy the vampire cunts and chaos due to their lack of ranged.
>>146081429
The army books themselves get contradicted all the time by newer army books so I don't really see how you can still claim there's any sort of canon tier list
>>146081563
>missing the joke more than a hellcannon misses fucking everything
oh man
>>146078529
To be fair these were wildman who never seen shields that big in their life and never heard anything about tactics.
>>146081648
Giant flying monsters and dragons > ranged
Do my units get more experience if I run down the routing units after the battle is won? Or is unit experience earned by just being in the battle itself?
>>146081648
Attila the Everchosen mod WHEN?
>>146081630
Attila is beyond overpowered
>le devil archers
>who kill heavy cav in melee while being faster
>and outshoot all but the best archers
>4 free
>>146078640
got the empire version of this famalam?
>>146081786
giant flying pincushioned monsters and dragons<ranged
>>146081817
>complaining about devil archers
>when a T1 unit of the white huns can beat 99% of all units in the game
It's Spet Xyon Archers or nothing m8.
>>146081914
You're being silly.
>commanders and fighters acting retarded in battle only happens in the movies
I seriously hope you guys are just memeing about this, anyone here with a decent knowledge wouldn't be surprised by whatever retarded shit could happen on screen because even worse happened in history at some point.
>>146081953
White Huns don't exist as far as I give a shit, Spet Xyons look like Darren just decided it'd be cool to make one unit literally best at everything
>>146081648
>undead
>caring about arrows, of all things
>>146081953
this, holy shit
http://www.honga.net/totalwar/attila/unit.php?l=en&v=attila&f=att_fact_white_huns&u=att_wh_spet_xyon_archers
>>146082013
Yeah except like
EVERYONE was critically retarded, Sansa was a colossal bitch, more than usual, Jon was past retarded and simply brain damaged, while apparently not a single fucking soldier thought to, well, fucking ATTACK the TWO MAN DEEP pike wall while it was manuevering
Also
>this is the cannae of GoT
>>146082013
To be fair the cinematography was pretty dope. Everything else was ass.
>>146081820
http://khorne.ru/2nd/wfrp_web/
Book is titled "Sigmar's Heirs". Also consider the Altdorf, Nuln, Middenheim and Talabecheim books for more details on the specific cities.
For Chaos stuff, I'd suggest the 400 page monstrousity Liber Chaotica, while VCs have the much more manageable and readable Liber Necris. Neither of these are included in the link, but you can check out the pastebin in /tg/'s WHFB general for access to further resources.
>>146081671
No, some stuff get retconned in army books. BL novels get ignored as a whole. See the End Times novels and the Nagash series.
BL has its own canon and GW has its own canon. Never shall the two meet.
If you are too much of a newbie to see that, then please fuck off.
>>146081953
>Spet Xyon
>not the Hephtalite Chargers
they have counter cavalry tactics ability, ON A FUCKING CAV UNIT, it gives them something like 150 attack and damage bonus vs cav, they shreck any cav unit easily
Do you all think warhammer total war will go on sale during the steam sales or should I just pull the trigger?
>>146082195
>BL novels get ignored as a whole
>except when a whole IG codex was just gaunt's ghosts put on tabletop, regiments, chapters and warbands get mentioned, planets get added and wars looked deeper into
And that's for 40k. FB is the same.
At least refrain from using absolutes when talking about fucking WH fluff
>>146082427
>>146082119
>>146082026
>>146081953
Are the White Huns the mary sue faction?
>>146082608
well, they had military knowledge from the huns, the indians and the persians, pretty much made the the best horse archers of the time so yeah, their most famous king conquered a shitton of land, was captured by the indians, fled, led a rebellion against an other king because his brother took his throne to get a throne and then resumed conquering
Why did nobody tell me there was a Daggerfall submod for The Elder Scrolls Total War?
>>146082608
They're absolutely overpowered, yes.
>>146082781
Knowing all those tactics isn't the same as being able to use all of them more effectively than the inventors, while also creating your own brand of bullshit. Which is what the White Huns do.
>>146082470
If it goes on sale it will be 10% at the most. It's still a top seller even at full price so I doubt it will be.
>>146082781
They also subjugated the Sassanids for a short time at some point
>>146083081
>mannimarco
>26
>>146083081
I had forgotten that there even was a Elder Scrolls Total War mod in the first place
>>146082608
They're overpowered.
>just got new gpu, power supply, and 16 gigs of ram
Can't wait to finally play warhammer. What setup do you guys use for max performance?
Patch tomorrow lads.
>>146083310
Proofs?
>>146083310tomorrow?
>>146083081
>King of Worms
>26
???
>not playing on Ultra unit-size
>>146083310tomorrow
>>146083401
https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4oxz03/after_almost_a_month_it_seems_patch_is_on_the_way/
>>146083436
I haven't played warhammer yet. Does ultra make magic weaker? Cause magic looks like the least fun part of the game. It would only suck that artillery doesn't scale.
Karl Franz atop Deathclaw vs. Dany and Drogon
Who wins?
Hard mode: vs. Aegon atop Balerion the Dread.
>>146083436
>playing Warhammer
Honestly though, I'm already burned the fuck out on it
>>146083551
the first karl wins because danaerys is still just a normal human, the second one Aegon wins because Balerion can swallow deathclaw whole
>>146082470
purchase from GMG. it's much cheaper than steam
>>146083551
Karl wins because Dany is utterly fucking retarded.
>>146083551
Karl Franz wins against Dany ez
For Hard Mode,Sigmar wins.
>>146083428
>>146083224
Blame the slavs.
>>146082470
It's already 20% off on GMG and it's not going any lower than that anywhere for a long ass time I can tell you that
>>146082491
Fuck you. I meant the a novel as a whole and everything in it is ignored if a contradiction pops up. Some stuff gets added in. Rarely. The rest gets ignored.
If I want throw examples of BL stuff that have been utterly ignored, then I would will to go all day. Lets start.
The Ultramarines and Iron Warrior series were ignored.
The Shield of Baal stuff.
The End Times
The Sons of Ulthan series.
The Nagash series.
The War of Vengeance
Fire Warrior.
And many many more.
GW always goes with the game canon in the event of a contradiction. I dare you to point me at a single example where BL stuff, outside of the HH series, replaced the game canon. You can't.
>>146083551
Dany is in a world where grimderp only applies to certain people, not including her.
She also has tits.
>>146083791
i do
>>146083551
From what I've seen and heard, Deathclaw wins almost any aerial fight in-game, because he stunlocks the shit out whoever he's fighting.
But in lore, Karl Franz 100%. The Silver Seal is incredibly powerful, and one hit from Ghal Maraz would crack Drogon's head like a walnut. Also, Deathclaw knows how to fight. Like, properly how to fight. Not just animal instinct, but how fight with a rider on their back effectively.
>>146083551
>dat smile
Dani would be all over KF's dick and there would be no need to fightKF being an autist, he would smash her with his hammer when her guard was down though instead of gettin laid
>>146083551
Karl. By having his cannons turn Drogon into a pile of meat from a mile away.
>>146083310
>>146082195
>See the End Times novels
That's all canon though, no matter how hard you cry about it.
>>146083907
Wasn't his story with Countess-chan basically a long line of spaghetti?
>>146083907
Karl has the right idea
Never stick your dick in crazy
>>146083551
Warhammer dragons would tear the shit out of got ones for a start they actully have front legs to aattack with while flying.
>>146083515
>https://www.reddit.com/r/totalwar/comments/4oxz03/after_almost_a_month_it_seems_patch_is_on_the_way/
>>146084037
>>146084050
It's not.
The End Times novels were ignored in the End Time campaign books.
>>146084339
Doesn't proof anything, I guess patch on thursday or friday.
>>146083551
>>146083635
>>146083673
>>146083850
>>146083903
>>146083907
>>146084028
Doesn't Karl have a dragon as well? The Imperial Dragon? It spends most of it time in the Aldtdorf menagerie, eating cows.
Which is weird, because Dragons are highly intelligent, and it's apparently pretty happy with this situation.
>>146083903
>>146083551
>>146083635
>>146083673
>>146083686
>You will never raise a Gryphon Pup to maturity.
>It'll never be loyal with you to the end.
>It will never let you ride it on it's back across the countryside.
>tfw you will never go to bed at night with it nuzzling by your side.
It hurts bros, having a big pet cat only goes so far.
>>146083532
I posted this a while ago.
>>146084530
The Imperial Dragon was reared from an egg in the Imperial Zoo, it has never gotten to communicate with others of it's kind and, as a result, is little more than an animal with above average intellect.
>>146084530
>pretty happy with this sitatuion
Why wouldn't it be? It spends most of it's time doing jack-shit surrounded by wealth and opulence, while eating, and is occasionally trotted out to roast orcs and chaos.
Meanwhile, most other dragons are either being hunted to extinction, falling asleep, or are corrupted by Chaos. It's got a pretty cushy spot.
>>146082178
>http://khorne.ru/2nd/wfrp_web/
thanks senpai
>>146084637
Boris :'(
>>146084587
>Karl being level 15+
>Mareinburg still being alive
Did you go into Bretonnia or something?
>>146082178
Is that slav link more comprehensive than the MEGA directory that /tg/ use? Seems like the mega one has everything.
>>146084912
Estalia vs. Marienburg, that man on the Griffon is the Lord "Ironsides" of Marienburg.
Best battle I've ever fought in this game.
>>146084637
Ultra is 120 men per most units right? It would feel weird playing anything smaller than that. Do most people not play on ultra or something?
>>146084895
>>146084637
>Based Boris
>>146084587
Deathclaw actually has an eyrie on top of the Imperial Palace. It spends most of the day flying around over Altdorf, then sleeps there.
It is, however, insanely loyal to Karl Franz. When he was injured during the battle of the Blood Keep, Deathclaw stood over his body for three hours fighting off hundreds of zombies, wights and vampires, until the Reiksguard could hack a path through the battle to Karl Franz.
>>146084895
>>146085107
Do you guys know what Todbringer menas btw?
>>146085105
Yea its 120 men, should be 160 but CA has to cater to potatoes.
>>146057535
rollingo
>>146084895
>>146084637
Should you kill Boris, or Confederate with him?
Despite the intro hyping him up as a rival, I've literally never had him cause a problem in any Empire playthrough.
>>146085279
He Brings Tod to his enemies.
Tod is what he calls his sword.
"sword"
Are there any fire breathing dragons in Warhammer?
>>146085360
Tod is german for Death tho.
>>146085360
>>146085279
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Boris_Todbringer
>>146085423
there's always the irondrakes.
>>146085151
>letting a massive monster-bird of prey fly freely over the city
That must freak some people out.
>>146085338
Depends. Middenheim is an excellent site for pumping out Knights, especially Demigryph Knights.
>>146085105
High have best balance and you run with 3-4 stacks anyway so there really is no point in playing ultra unless you want weak units to be even weaker and strong units stronger.
>>146085423
I think they all normally breath fire.
>>146085467
>has a german name already
>lets change it because its too edgy
wtf?
>>146084912
Not that guy but im currently finishing cleaning up chaos hordes and Marienburg is the only imperial faction still standing besides me.
I took Marienburg and its village when they went to war with Nordland, after which I got several k for a peace treaty. Then they were bumming around without territory for some time.
When the first chaos incursions razed most of the northern provinces they colonized a few and used their stored giant pile of cashmoney to turn them into an immovable stone wall against actual chaos invasion. Dudes handled all the chaos stacks that went in their direction without losing a single settlement.
>>146085606
Zombie and chaos dont
>>146085338
I normally let Middenland and Nordland tank the Chaos raiders, while I consolidate the South. Normally, I aim to control Reikland, Bastonne, the Wasteland and Wissenland as mid-game objectives.
After that, they're typically battered enough and I'm strong enough that I can either absorb them or conquer them as I please.
>>146085467
>>146085448
That is incredibly based.
Todbringer is so cool, DLC when?
STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB KURWA
>>146085717
Those aren't normal dragons
>>146085953
They better add ones that do then
>>146085740
Todbringer has a rivalry with one of the beastmen leaders which involved them putting an eye out from each other, it would be neat if that was reflected in a quest chain or event so that you can get punished Todbringer
>>146086114
High elves ride dragons that should be able to I think.
>>146086234
Definitely seems like he'll be in a Lord Pack then, it seems built for him and Khazrak.
>>146086234
That seems really retarded.
So when's/what's the next update for tww, lads?
>>146085826
That army needs more missile cav
>>146086681
The SteamDB entry was recently updated which MAY indicate that there is something coming in the near future
That's about all we have
>>146086681tomorrow
>>146086681
>soontm
> - Official CA twitter.
>>146083826
And again, that just puts BL stuff on the same level as army books, because army books themselves can get ignored, just look at the necrons.
>le fuck you
>>146082178
>>146084760
>>146085057
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!NABgmKZJ
This has half a dozen more books for 2nd edition WHFRP, as well as the books from all the other editions.
Much better to that other link.
>>146050315
"DLC 3 - Beastmen!
Subfactions
Redhorn Brayherd
Khazrak Herd Brayherd
Skrinderkin Brayherd
Jagged Horn
Skrinderkin
Ripper Horn Brayherd
Shadowgor Brayherd
Rredhorn
DLC 5 - Wood Elves!
Subfactions
Anmyr
Arranoc
Argwylon
Atylwyth
Cavaroc
Cythral
Durthu
Eorgovann
Fyr Darric
Modryn
Tirsyth
Talsyn
Wydrioth
Plus additions to Beastmen and Brettonia.
DLC 8 Tomb Kings!
No info on subfactions.
DLC 10 Skaven!
No info on subfactions.
DLC 13 Chaos Dwarfs!
No info on subfactions
DLC 15 Ogre Kingdoms!
No info on subfactions.
Expansion pack 1
Ulthuan and the New World will be uncovered in the second installment of the trilogy of Total War: WARHAMMER with the following races:
High Elves
Dark Elves
Lizardmen
No info on subfactions.
Expansion pack 2
The third installment of the trilogy will be dedicated to Chaos with 4 factions, one for each God of Chaos. Unique Lords, Chosen, Demons et cetera included.
Khorne
Tzeentch
Nurgle
Slaanesh
No info on subfactions."
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html
>>146087545
That's more fucking subfactions than all the other existing races you fucking speculationfag.
>>146087545
>DLC 13 Chaos Dwarfs!
Kek
>>146087545
wtf
wood elves have more factions than beastmen?
who thought up that shit?
>>146087259
No, they don't. BL stuff are always ignored for the sake of Game book canon. Always and without fail. You mentioning retcons between editions of game books doesn't refute anything.
And Fuck you again.
>>146087664
this was actually on the files, the russian site showed that
>>146087545
>Entire expansion focussing on Daemons
Oh god please no.
>>146087997
It's not in the ingame files, I should know.
>>146088112
You fuckers knew this was coming, the moment they released only chaos warriors you all know that the rest would come in other packs
>>146087664
But it's not at all though?
The Empire has 15 subfactions, 16 if you count The Empire itself, and yes Tilea, Estalia, Border Princes and Kislev are fucking Empire subfactions, at least until they get a SINGLE gameplay element to distinguish themselves.
>>146088219
I knew Daemons and Beastmen would be separate factions, but an entire expansion based purely on daemons and nothing else seems ridiculous.
>>146083903
>one hit from Ghal Maraz would crack Drogon's head like a walnut
Good luck hitting anything with that short-ass hammer
Truly it was made by dwarfs
>>146087772
I already mentioned the things that didn't get ignored, you ignoring them doesn't mean GW does too. There's overlap between the sources and you better just accept it.
>>146088251
The Empire is also fucking huge, Athel Loren is tiny and united, the same number of subfactions is retarded.
>>146087545
>Russians make shit up
More at 11
>>146088324
Maybe we'll get a realm of chaos map and get to play as one of the big four.
>>146088324
desu, the four gods have enough material for 4 factions and i bet that this will expanded the chaos wastes, so why not :? i wonder if they will add new units though
>>146088449
if i am not mistaken,a someone on CA said that those are more or less the plan but some stuff may change
>>146088548
I think they'll have to if they want to stretch the Daemons roster across four factions.
>>146088764
You are mistaken.
Only a small amount of what is in that post was actually found in the files.
And what the CA employee responded to was the stuff that was actually in the files.
And what she said was more along the lines of "Congratulations on having found that stuff, but be aware that that info is outdated"
That's all that was said.
>>146084061
what story?
>>146088498
How will the chaos invasion work once all the factions are in though, the beastman are too deep into wood elf territory and i have no memory of then in chaos wastes
>>146061908
>two collumns come marching double file, surrounding the enemy with no interference whatsoever
goddamn that "battle" segment triggered me so many times
>>146088324
It's probably going to add an End Times-like campaign. Same map, but factions are united at full strength and allied as good vs evil, heroes are powered up to their final forms, stuff like that.
>>146088991
There's beastmen literally EVERYWHERE, including the Chaos Wastes.
>>146088404
Are you an idiot? I already addressed that. Some things gets incorporated albeit very rarely. The majority is thrown into the trash.
When there is a contradiction between the game canon and BL canon, the game canon wins out always which means that canon in 40K is indeed tiered. You have yet to provide an example of BL canon beating out game canon.
You better accept that you are wrong.
Fuck you trice.
>>146086704
It was a garrison that got taken by surprise.
I usually have 2 mounted gunners and 3 mounted archers.
>>146089141
>Kingdoms of Ind
they can't keep getting away with this
>>146089265
>You have yet to provide an example of BL canon beating out game canon
I don't have to do anything like that because I never said that to begin with, you might want to learn how to read
Get more mad
>>146089298
>Nippon
It's not really supposed to be serious, those parts of the world have literally never been relevant to anything.
PATCH
>>146089521Tomorrow
>>146089548
Someone said that yesterday. Hol' on.. is this a meme?
>>146089682
*Smacks lips profusely*
>>146089382
>I don't have to do anything like that because I never said that to begin with,
">>146081671"
You disputed that there is a canon tier system in warhammer. You put forth that just because some elements of the novels rarely get incorporated into the mainstream that means that the novels are on the same level as army books.
This is objectively wrong and you have failed to prove your point and have not provided any evidence.
You have lost.
>>146089827
I already mentioned the instances of BL fluff being incorporated into army book fluff, you're disregarding them saying that they don't count. Then you say that newer army books overwrite canon, and have yet to address my point that they overwrite older army books too, rendering your point moot.
But here, feel free to say that this doesn't count too while you babble about anything in canon being worth shit.
>>146061908
I always knew LotR was normieshit, but now I have confirmation.
>>146090098
what the fuck anon
>>146090098
This is indicative of GoT fans, you dolt
>>146089387
they could have made it relevant though.
>no elefun-men or tigermen of ind
>no ninja senseis of nippon
>>146090098
Pretty sure you got that backwards m8
>>146084061
>Wasn't his story with Countess-chan basically a long line of spaghetti?
yeah KF is a fighter not a lover
So warhammer is the first in a ttrilogy?
Of whole games or just expacs like FOTS?
>>146090352
Kind of both?
They'll be fully priced but they'll slot into the first game like expansion packs.
>>146061908
>pure retardation
All these claims of other fantasy series bwing the "lotr killer", but the lotr books and especially films will probably never be topped,especially with the current state of most media.
>>146065285
no-one
>>146085740
>build Great temple of Ulric
>enables you to recruit Sigmarite priests
>>146090352
hopefully they will expand the grand campaign when the new factions arrive.
>>146090092
>I already mentioned the instances of BL fluff being incorporated into army book fluff,
I addressed this two times already. This does not refute the notion of a tier list of the canon.
Look at the picture you posted. It says that GW goes through a process to eliminate the contradiction which translates to we ignore the BL novel and go with the game canon.
There isn't a single example of BL material winning over game canon. Whenever there is a conflict, GW always choose the game canon. Which proves the existence of a canon tier list where the army books are at the pinnacle.
You have utterly lost unless provide an example of novel canon beating game canon.
>>146090224
>>146090242
>>146090287
sure let's proceed about a discussion of how deepand not boring at allLotR and its lore is.
Just drop it.
LotR fags will be LotR fags. There is no discussion to be had about this any more than there is to be a discussion about why Star Wars is dogshit.
>>146090352
They're whole games that act as a trilogy. So say you get the next game, you can play it standalone without the previous factions, but if you bought them before they combine into a single, bigger campaign.
>>146090620
I'm sorry you have shit taste m8, no need to take it out on us.
>>146080323
Knights of the vale bruh, bunch of pikemen cant do shit against the strongest cavalry of them all
>>146090352
They kind of confirmed that they will be full games on their own that will work with the base game
>>146090605
What is with this obsession of yours over "beating"? What do you think this is, DBZ? The whole point is that it's all collaborative storytelling and whatever fits the current GW view gets picked regardless of the base source, be it army books, BL or FW. Even WD was part of it. It's all the same shit.
>>146090461
>>146090461
she is oryo stork
>>146090352
it's like an expansion pack, but you pay full price for it
we are reaching levels of jewry that shouldn't be possible
>>146090297
I hope he actually got laid, I'd lose a lot of respect if he was some beta virgin.
>>146091110
>>146090297
I have no idea what this story is, but Karl Franz is married with children by the End Times. He may even have been married before he was crowned Emperor.
>>146085423
They have dragons that breathe lightning, poisonous gas, corrosive clouds, Ice filled freezing wind, and yes fire. Really depends on the the type of dragon.
OH SHIT WARHAMMER DLC LEAKED
>Think im gonna have a fun, even battle for once
>enemy reinforcements come from my flank
fucking fuck.
>>146091298
Some time ago yeah.
>>146090903
Just no.
You claimed there is no canon tier. Well, in reality, there exists one where the stuff produced from the design studio aka army books sit at the top. In event of conflicts and contradictions between different sources, the army books being on the top tier is always is chosen as the true path forwards. As things go it's GW army books > FW army books > BL novels.
If you think they are all equal, cite an example where GW, when a conflict happened, chose a BL novel over a army book source.You can't.
These games would be 10 times better if they weren't turn-based.
>>146091479
They are all equal, the newer army book retcons and enforces whatever needed depending on the current view regardless of the base source and to realize that you just have to, I don't know, read the fucking fluff? Or are you telling me that in your headcanon there is no vox and promethium since they come from BL?
The only actual "tier" is that new stuff is the new official, and that applies to both crunch and fluff.
>>146091110
>not following your based as fuck autistic commander to the ends of the earth
gay
>>146091640
I think the paradox way of doing things is really good.
Especially when it comes to troop movements and capture.
>>146051905
Sigvald get
>>146091640
This.
I love the real-time map in Paradox games, and unholy union between Paradox maps and Total War battles are the way forward.
>>146090620
>so reactionary they turn retarded.
>>146091640
>>146092129
>>146092456
back to /gsg/ with you samefag!
>>146091640
When we have the technology to zoom from the campaign map right into the battle map in real time while having good graphics.
>>146092746
Don't you want better campaign mechanics senpai?
>>146091640
>>146092129
>>146092456
Is radious hate a meme?
I kind of like the mod
>>146093903
>>146093903
>>146091640
>>146092129
No. Total war is way better than paradox wackamole. Forced march does make total war 10x worse though. The older games have better campaigns.
Hearing the Egyptian Pikemen talk after playing Warhammer is really weird.
>>146093903
>Hammerer Ironbreakers(Crossbows)
GoT mod for Attila that actually bring new assets when?
I don't understand the political system in Rome II. I thought it was mostly about your guys having gravitas but even when my own guys vastly outnumber the rival faction I can never really get past 60%.
Same deal with any kind of offensive action you take against the rival families. If I assassinate somebody of the other faction, they should lose gravitas and influence because of it. What actually happens though is that I lose influence for assassinating somebody which causes the rival faction to INCREASE their own influence.
What the fuck is going on with this system?
>>146094079
I don't think it's forced march as much as it is the AI automatically knowing where your movement range is and how they constantly skirt the edge of it no matter how powerful their force is. For example in DeI they removed the forced march stance but the same thing happens with armies in normal move mode where they hover just beyond your movement range - which didn't really happen in the older games. My main complaint about that is that it makes actual pitched battles relatively rare and forces you to fight boring settlement slogs instead.
>>146094604
>e AI automatically knowing where your movement range is
you know that all you have to do to see an army movement range is to click on it/hover over it, right? you can always check the AI movement range that way, at least you could in Attila, I havent actually ever done that in tww oddly enough
either way, I really dont understand why people are complaining about the AI not fighting a battle it will definitely lose, why the hell wouldn't they run?
>Lord Of Change descends upon the world
>Nearly unstoppable monster
>Get my Witch Hunter to shout at him until his feelings are hurt enough that he commits sudoku
Alright then.
>>146094386
is the hate for his unit mod?
I'm using his base mod
>>146094596
Just keep promoting and adopt the other party's highest ranks
>>146094953
This ain't Eragon son
>>146094975
DUDE. INFINITE INCOME LMAO
VAMPIRE CHANS FEET!
>>146091298
>>146091443
You guys mean this?
http://totalwars.ru/index.php/total-war-warhammer-news/2576-total-war-warhammer-fb-dlc-and-expansion-pack-plans.html
Any submods for Master of Strategy that are worth it?
I just want to get comfy.
/twgot/
>getting triggered over a battle in a show that is purely for cinematic and aesthetically pleasing purposes whose directors care little for pleasing the autism of neets
>>146095557
Fuck off apologizer, bad things should be shat upon
>>146091298
link?
>>146095193
>cyka blat
You expect me to read that fake shit?
>>146095557
>things don't have to make sense in tv and film, and it's okay for characters and events to be retarded for the sake of the plot
Daily reminder that Isabella, Panther knights and wood elves are already in the files
It is happening
fug, I am so bored, I played attila for over 1000 hours and cant do it anymore, until either the medieval or ancient empires is out.
Feeling burnt out on warham too so time for a sub-optimal playthrough I think, anyone have any ideas other than gobbo run?
>>146095740
see >>146095193
Its legit.
>>146095743
>>146095853
>>146095984
"DLC 3 - Beastmen!
Subfactions
Redhorn Brayherd
Khazrak Herd Brayherd
Skrinderkin Brayherd
Jagged Horn
Skrinderkin
Ripper Horn Brayherd
Shadowgor Brayherd
Rredhorn
DLC 5 - Wood Elves!
Subfactions
Anmyr
Arranoc
Argwylon
Atylwyth
Cavaroc
Cythral
Durthu
Eorgovann
Fyr Darric
Modryn
Tirsyth
Talsyn
Wydrioth
Plus additions to Beastmen and Brettonia.
DLC 8 Tomb Kings!
No info on subfactions.
DLC 10 Skaven!
No info on subfactions.
DLC 13 Chaos Dwarfs!
No info on subfactions
DLC 15 Ogre Kingdoms!
No info on subfactions.
Expansion pack 1
Ulthuan and the New World will be uncovered in the second installment of the trilogy of Total War: WARHAMMER with the following races:
High Elves
Dark Elves
Lizardmen
No info on subfactions.
Expansion pack 2
The third installment of the trilogy will be dedicated to Chaos with 4 factions, one for each God of Chaos. Unique Lords, Chosen, Demons et cetera included.
Khorne
Tzeentch
Nurgle
Slaanesh
No info on subfactions."
Whether this is bullshit or not this is what it says. Maybe?
>>146095751
Things seldom make sense in the real world in the first place.
If anyone ever made an exact replica of WW1/2 changing the names and covering it with a different setting everyone would call any character involved a retard too.
>>146096064
>Tomb Kings announced
>>146096064
Bullshit, no way they'd have data from the final game in the trilogy there.
>>146096083
there is no excuse for an unarmed giant
>>146096083
There's reasonable realistic retardation, and then there's GoT. The books have people being realistically retarded, while the show could be written by schoolchildren at this point.
>>146096064
How the hell are they going to handle beastmen and Athel-Loren, the current map already feels claustrophobic. I feel like they may need to scale the map up to add space in between for all this shit
>>146096576
mini campaigns like HatG or Charlemagne
Grand campaign probably give us the faction and maybe 2-3 minor faction of the same race
>>146096576
same,
if they don't scale it up then why add so many? 90% of them will be gone by turn 5
>>146096576
they will have their own campaigns, and be playable in the grand campaign as 1 faction
Like beastmen will probably be around Middenland and the Drakwald, with playable One-Eye and Todbringer ( with his own model )
>When you lose a siege battle because your units mass route at the final push.
HOW MANY FUCKING CAVALRY CHARGES TO THE REAR IS IT GONNA TAKE TO BREAK 3 UNITS OF SWORDSMEN THAT LOST HALF THEIR MEN
>>146096713
I mean that could work, limit it to specific areas with multiple conflicts, like maybe one is just empire and vampire counts (beastmen marauding orcs etc could show up)
>>146096797
We see that problem already with the orc hordes, they all die by like turn 10.
>>146097031
Yeah i could see that, i still think they may have to expand the map a bit to fit things properly.
>>146096064
How will they add the tomb cucks and the ogres as a DLC for the first game? The map doesn't cover their territories.
>>146096281
Too bad, it's in there.
>>146096576
Well most of the Beastmen and Wood Elf factions are prefixed with mini so they probably won't be added to the grand campaign.
>>146097263
Just added onto the map with those DLCs, I'd guess. None of the expansions shown in the files would add their lands.
>>146097263
A new/extended map
>>146097418
Fucking hell, consider me proven wrong.
>>146097263
>dlc 8
>dlc 15
I don't think it's gonna be in the first game, more like second and third.
>>146097418
>black pit
IT'S BLACK CHASM YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>146097443
>>146097418
Wouldn't it be a little bit strange to extend the map for faction DLC? They never did this. Another thing that is strange is that that they don't seem to add any territories in the 2nd expansion. Could only be the chaos wasted according to the factions it covers.
I have some questions about the Empire as that is the playthrough I plan to do next.
Early game should my armies be stacked of nothing but Swordsmen and Crossbows with a few Spearmen and Pistoliers? Which are more useful for holding the line, Spears or swords?
Are heavy cavalry armies worth it? Outriders and Empire Knights specifically?
Do Crossbows remain relevant through the whole game, or should I replace them with Handgunners or artillery even later.
How good is Empire artillery? I had a dwarven army the majority of units being Organ Guns and Cannons and it demolished everything I faced.
What's the general consensus on early game conquering? Take Marienburg and then Wissenland early to get early income and better arty? Or should I slog straight into Brettonia, Tilea, and Estalia?
What units are must haves, what to avoid?
Thanks.
DLC WHEN?
>tfw you are shit eating casual now
>>146097418
>mini campaign with skaven, Brets, beastmen and wood elves
>>146097715
Except each expansion is also a standalone game which will add-on land to the previous game if you have it, why would they make a L-shaped map?
Expansion 1 with the High & Dark Elfs and Lizardmen makes sense for a standalone, but Tomb Kings, Chaos Dwarfs, and Ogres would make a very strange game map.
>>146098130
On second thought, where would the Chaos Gods add to that? It makes just as little sense with them.
>>146098130
>yfw "elvish realms" can't be conquered by non-elves
>yfw lizards cities can't be conquered by anyone who's not a scally or a furry
>>146098130
that map hurts my fuckin eyes
>>146098308
They'd just spawn in the Chaos Wastes and be a horde, like WoC instead of being an interesting faction
>>146098130
The third expansion won't include the whole map of the first game, stop posting that it's retarded
>>146098130
>>146098538
>implying anyone on earth will only buy the third expension without the base game
>>146098674
Literally nobody will, but CA promised a full standalone with a seperate map.
>>146091640
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT GET OUT GET OUUUUUUTTTTTTT
>>146093903
No he's legitimately shit.
So if and when they add in the other major factions, how will realm divide affect them, some of them are REALLY far out of the way that Archaon isn't or won't be a threat in game.
I'd imagine for Southern factions the Skaven Vermintide would be a thing, or a particularly scary Tomb Kingz, or Druchii invasion.
>>146068292
You sure? I see nothing like that on Steam workshop.
>>146095557
Most battles in film/television sacrifice actual tactics for making the fights look more cool and brutal, but this was just bad, only good part was the tracking shot, even other battles in GoT where done better. At least blackwater and the castle black battle actually used some tactics.
>>146057894
ill help you out since everyone is just memeing at you, when R2 was coming out after the base factions were announced they hinted at their being a ninth one, everyone in here got psyched for selucids, it turned out to be pontus, people sperged oout saying they didnt wnat ot play fucking pontus and everyone who didnt really care made fun of them, and thus pontus became the meme faction of TW, in game, personally i like their roster its a nice mix of hellenic pike/hoplites with eastern archers, cav and chariots.
>>146082151
>Jon was past retarded and simply brain damaged
He wants to be dead, he only kept fighting because Sansa and Davos (iirc) convinced him to. Also his brother died right in front of him which pissed him off and if he ran backwards he would have died in that arrow volley, he might as well have charged.
>while apparently not a single fucking soldier etc
1. It was 3 deep
2. You try being smart after being in bigass confusing battle, watch the scene again and it looks like they were just trying to figure out what the hell is going on
>>146099646
At least we got more Daenerys screen time.
>>146099646
t.apologist.
>>146099756
>that being a good thing
I literally skip or skim through her scenes at this point, even some normies are getting tired of her shit. Being a shit actor on top of being a unlikable Mary-sue killed her character.
>>146099756
>>146099961I agree, I was being sarcastic
>>146099771
t. anyone who realizes that life isn't total war
they do dumb shit with the show all the time but that battle was one of the best scenes in TV history, deal with it
>>146099756
the only good part about her scene was the dragons, shes shit. I hope Tyrion kills her just like when Jaime killed her father
>>146100137
Tyrion is only good at killing whoresOH WAIT
>>146100137
>battle was one of the best scenes in TV history, deal with it.
Lol no, deal with it.
>>146100112
My apologies.
>>146100137
>that battle was one of the best scenes in TV history
>>146100262
>>146100565
name better battles
can you fuckers go back to /tv/ and let us talk about total war games?
>>146100678
Blackwater
>>146100678
>best scenes in TV history
>name better battles
Already moving the goalposts are we?
Gladiator scene at the end of the first season of Rome was better than that shit.
>>146100137
>but that battle was one of the best scenes in TV history
A sad day when a mediocre fantasy TV show is getting more content than CA's mediocre fantasy RTT.
There's not much reason to stay here anymore. If you need me, I'll be in /gsg/ supporting companies that provide for their fanbase. And ~maybe~ if you ask nicely I'll come back.
Don't count on it though.
>>146054534
>They are tired as shit.
>Most of the army consist of wildlings who have no experience in this kind of battle.
>The giant does not even speak the commanders language, nor does he want to run in like 20 spears just to kill a few soldiers.
>kys
>>146100678
I've said already, the other major battles in the actual show where better, other than the tracking shot, blackwater, castle black and hardhome were all done better, then you got shit like the stuff in Rome, BoB, the Pacific, and pretty much any film, but they have bigger budgets so that's a given. The fact people actually say it's better let alone compare it to anything in Lotr is sickening.
>>146100989
Buy a helium canister and inhale the content directly through a mask.
>>146100989
just stop, this is bordeline autism, it's stale bait
>>146100678
>Hardhome
>Blackwater
>Castle Black
>>146101137
>borderline
It's 100% grade A autism. Tell your friends.
>>146101208
>implying
>>146101076
>>146054534
Not arming the giant was the stupidest shit.
Literally all they need to do is cut down a tree and let him swing it about, and they can break formations in half. They could have done it any time before the battle.
>>146101295
Not implying at all, I'm outright telling you.
>>146100989
>avatarfagging
>>146100771
>>146101104
The show itself has jumped the shark since season 4 anyways, I only watch because it the only fantasy series on tv I know of besides the even worse vikings and I pirate the shit out of it, HBO will never get a dime from me.
>>146101353
Especially literally every other battle in the show that had giants (one being the same giant), the Giants actually did use weapons.
>>146092615
>Reactionary
I think you mean contrarian.
Reactionary is "oh, things were so much better back in the good old days"
>>146100678
the Wildling attack on the wall was much better the series past season 4 is a joke.
>>146101487
It jumped the shark when Ned died you fucking pleb.
>>146101829
Ah yeah, you're right. I tend to equate the two.
>>146100771
I can agree
>>146100892
Thats a good scene, but not nearly as good and nowhere near as impressive as the batle of the bastards. The gladiator scene falls apart when the slow sad music starts
>>146101195
Those are good but i wouldn't say most of those are better. Hardhome loses points because zombies.
>>146101353
>>146101641
>Wun wun picks up a horse and throws it at formation
>Formation snaps like a twig
It was so stupid. If they'd actually given Wun Wun any kind of weapon, he could have practically won the battle for them.
>>146101897
If Hardhome loses points because 'lol zombies', then Battle of the Bastards loses points because 'lol retards'.
Frankly, wights make more sense than half the shit that happened in that fight.
>>146101889
Perfectly understandable.
Also, why the fuck are we discussing GoT?
>>146102095
Plus Hardhome was fucking brutal to watch.
>>146102282
Because the last episode had a battle scene in that, while well-done in a graphical sense, was absolutely retarded in a tactical sense, and autism kicked in hard here.
>>146102282
Dude, cav charging cav. Why would you ever do that. And shooting them with your own arrows to create some kind of wall of dead people.
They probably remembered that from 300 and thought it would be fucking radical.
>/twg./ - Game of Thrones General
>>146102391
Not even in a graphical sense m8, besides the couple minute at most tracking shot of Jon in the fight (which was really great) the rest was mediocre at best and done better in past seasons of the same fucking show.
>>146101901
as the GoT fag defending it ITT i completely agree with this. Wun Wun should have thrown horses or carried a tree.
>>146102095
Zombies are easy tier and are extremely overdone. If you're impressed by a zombie battle then you're probably 12
The only retards were Sansa and Wun Wun. Everyone else reacted as sensible as they could, given the situation. Remember that battles IRL don't have god-commanders watching over them and giving them orders that they'll follow until the morale score is too low
>>146102391
It's not even autism, GoT fanboys have been creaming themselves about it and people everywhere (youtube and the works) are calling out the stupid shit.
>>146101897
>zombies
Hardhome was brilliant. It showed the White Walkers as terrifying foes, but also had Jon, Wun Wun and Tormund have some victories against them. Almost all the human characters involved made relatively intelligent decisions for the situation they were in, and it was overwhelming power that won the battle for the White Walkers. It was also brilliant to watch.
Battle of the Bastards was retarded. Jon running off alone is fine. He's an idiot and his family just got killed in front of him. But there were so many stupid things happening that it became obnoxious.
>>146102879
This, wun wun even used a fucking weapon at hardhome, to great effect during the fighting retreat.
>>146102875
If you agree with youtube you have to ask yourself a couple of questions
>>146102789
The whole mountain of corpses thing was also stupid.
How the hell did Jon's ENTIRE army get pushed up against a mountain of bodies, while locked in a melee?
Why didn't Wun Wun have a weapon of any description?
Why didn't Sansa tell Jon anything at all?
Why did not a single person attack the two person thick row of people? If literally a single Wilding had broken ranks and charged before the encirclement was complete, the whole thing would have been broken, or at least slowed.
How was Ramsey not aware at all of a massive cavalry force less than a few miles from the battlefield?
Why did Davos run in with the archers?
There were so many things happening that were so obviously forced to happen, just to ensure that they could get that stupid encirclement.
>Low level Bretonnian lords
Fucking hate that shit, why do they start off with no mount?
>>146100989
>avatarfagging with Korean animated soap-opera stills
Don't come back
>>146103772
It's a real pain. They become so much easier to kill once they have one.
>>146103772
Oh fuck, that guy is being charged by a greenscreen!
>>146103772
Literally webm related
>>146103915
Do mounts make Lords and Agents weaker?
>>146103923
That was actually real that shot, they stopped right after the cut.
>>146103957
>dat one knight who snatches the lady and takes her with him
He's gonna find a juicy grail for his efforts
>>146104090
Really? It looks like a greenscreen effect.
>>146104046
They become vulnerable to anti-large damage, so spearmen can do some hefty damage quite quickly.
Their animations also get a bit messed up, making their attacks less effective.
For the Empire, Pegasus and Deathclaw are pretty good though.
>>146104228
Yeah, it's because it's focused on both Jon and the cavalry, usually focus is only on one object.
>Jon using the sword of House Mormont
>Saves himself using a Mormont shield
He's going to end up engaged to Lyanna, isn't he? And Tormund is going to make some comment about them both being bearfuckers or something.
>>146103957
why do m'ladies look like hags anyways?
>>146104046
Sometimes. Mounts do give bonus armor though, barded warhorse is like +50 armor. I always give wizards mounts since I don't want them in melee anyways or I can just use them to solo route an archer unit. Keep in mind you can dismount them in the character screen at any time, so it's not a wasted skill point. But for example if you are just using a warrior priest to slug it out on the front line with the men, I wouldn't give him a horse.
>>146104357
Oh wait no it isn't. Must be his lack of feet or something then.
>>146103957
>Still no Bretonnian DLC
Suffering. What gives CA?
>>146104440
>John
>ending up with anyone under the age of 16
You're implying the writers have the balls to show off the actual age at which people are engaged/married in Westeros, which they clearly don't.
The pairing itself is pretty good though, from a political standpoint.
>>146102789
>Everyone else reacted as sensible as they could, given the situation.
Nope, they were all carrying huge idiot sticks. The closest thing to an excusable dumb move is Davos realizing archers that can shoot are useless, so rushing them in to help. That made some amount of sense to do in desperation, at least.
>>146103772
>One samurai retainer left.webm
>>146104502
Anti-Large damage ignores armor.
>>146103957
>not show: the entire unit of grail knights getting killed by Archaon
>>146104440
>nights watch commander
>marrying
I don't bloody think so.
>>146105619
>Night's Watch Commander
He's left.
>>146105761
No, he's right.
>>146105461
They had help.
>Get real bored of trying to unify the norse tribes,
>go down to Kislev for some comfy raiding
>turn 70,
>3 doomstacks of Norse tribes are coming and following me
fuck norse tribes.
>>146080323
>>146053914
>outnumber the enemy at least 2:1
>have tactical advantage of arches and swordsman vs slow shielded pikeman
>also have a fucking giant that's perfect for breaking up formations
>literally only way to lose is to rush them head on while they are in formation
>go even more full retard by letting them FUCKING SURROUND YOU while your units stand still
>later on get charged by cavalry
>have completely blind and deaf soldiers that can't see a fucking cavalry charge a mile fucking out in territory that's completely fucking flat with no fucking trees
>take it up the ass and let them hit you undefended backs instead of turning around the back two lines of pikeman not being used and spearing them to death
Is everyone in this show fucking retarded?
>halberdiers secretly attack slower and deal 2/3rds of the dmg their stats say
why would they do this?
>>146105619
>I don't bloody think so.
Do y' take me for a wazzock?LET YOUR BEARDS FLOW
>>146105858
Depending on his level and gear, Archaon could still win.
On foot Archaon is a close combat monster monster.
>>146106292
WHO CALLED FOR SOME GUARDIANS?
Why do Norse tribes units ALWAYS have such high experience?
>>146106385
except when he gets ran over by horses over and over again, getting constantly knocked over
>>146106453
reflects the fact that empire units are dyel
>>146106003
you're supposed to ignore everything past kraka drak until you awaken kholek, then send him to go awaken sigvald and have those two nerds vassalize norsca 100% while archaon continues to pressure kislev and empire.
>>146106528
If he's in the middle of a scrum, that rarely happens. You could could just repeatedly charge, then counter charge, but you'd do so little damage and he'd do so much whenever he got an attack off, you'd still probably lose. Or the battle timer would run out.
>>146106101
Any number crunching on this?
I made a post about the same thing about six generals back that garnered nothing but meme-replys.
In melee situations where everything else was equal, my halberdiers were consistently coming out worse for wear than my unshielded spearmen, and the only replies I got were 'git gud xD' and 'DUDE, SHIELDS LMAO'.This general is dying.
>>146106590
But I started with Kholek
>>146103458
If youtube says the sky is blue are you going to disagree just to be contrarian?
>>146106730
Once again proving that Rifle Lines are the go to solution.
>first TW game
>never knew about friendly fire
>thought that i was being dead kunnin supporting the melee with my doom divaz
>>146106948
you're not dead kunnin, just dead
G.R.R.M had decades to write it. It started as a trilogy. Showrunners have maybe a month of drafting before they have to start shooting.
Jesus fuck, why does Reddit have to be so autistic about praising the show? Why does 4chan have to be so autistic about bashing it?
I feel like I'm between two fatasses in a tiny elevator.
Back on topic : What the fuck are slayers actually for?
>>146106909
You perfectly got my point and are just acting contrarian yourself, I hope
>>146106948
I don't know, shooting a catapult into a melee without regard for friendly fire seems distinctly orky.
>>146107112
>What the fuck are slayers actually for?
Killing giants and other big units.
>>146107112
dying to large units.
>>146106423>BFME2 is now a decade oldI want off this ride.
>>146106453
They have an armory building which gives +3 experience on recruitment and it stacks. A Norscan province might have 2 of these in separate settlements.
>>146107112
>What the fuck are slayers actually for?
Ashamed dwarfs take the slayer's oath to seek doom in battle, that's exactly what they do, they die
>>146106948
Always try and flank with your archers, if there's no free enemy skirmishers. It's easy, does a ton of damage and morale damage, and there's little to nor risk of friendly fire.
For artillery, you need them to have a lot of XP before they become reliably accurate enough.
But Gold rank Mortars are basically smart bombs.
>>146106818
I'm just reading a reddit post a bout damage calculation and its saying the some of the AP units aren't even worth it since they attack slower like the great axe marauder. Also pretty much all cavalry attack 20% slower.
>>146106930
Do you tell your handgunners to stand and fight in melee or do you have them scurry behind your other line? I find if you just leave them be they actually do well because the back rows keep firing. It's basically 30 enemy units swinging vs 30 handgunner sswinging + 60 handgunners shooting
>>146106827
Then you get Archaon and pass him the torch while Kholek and Sigvald go vassalizing norsca.
>>146107112
An easy to kill counter to nothing bigger than a troll.
>>146107112
You use them after the fight is already won to chase down fleeing enemy units, as they're pretty fast for dwarves.
It's their only purpose.
>>146107269
I remember dicking around that game with my friend, I spent 30 minutes making those beserker urks then for the final battle like 2 units of his spider riders crushed them all.
New bread when?
>>146107170
Try reading the reply chain next time.
>>146107321
Not him, but should I have archers on my flanks then? I've always had them behind the front line.
>>146107347
Link the post? I need to be validated in my choice of marauder (shields) over marauder (great weapons).
>>146107575
No. Keep them behind your lines and move them to the flanks only when it's safe.
>>146053914
>Have giant which is five times the height of a man and orders of magnitude stronger
>Clearly intelligent and capable of using advanced tools to the same level as humans
>Don't bother to give it armour or a weapon
Bravo.
Least they could do was give it a fucking log or something.
>>146104787
This, I've even done this before in tw if it got desperate, won me a battle once. Was massively outnumbered and archers had run their quivers dry so I basically used them as a light infantry flanker and they manged to route a enemy unit and cause a chain route.
>>146107696
But should I have them positioned near the flanks?
So like this
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A A
Or like This
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AA
?
>>146107913
I'm assuming you meant for the second diagram to show them in the centre.
Ideally you want the first. If the enemy has fewcavalry or skirmishers, then go with that.
If they have tons, then keep them in, or have them guarded.
>>146106101
They have a longer reach though. Which seems to be a hidden stat.
>>146107321
i booted my archers, weren't orky enough. giant orc scrum with a few boar boyz hitting their ranged guys has been working well enough
but now i'm confused as what to do with all these lobbas i built
Let's kill some Chaos Warriors.
>Not using the objectively superior stepped line setup
C'mon STEP IT UP
>>146108287
I do it all the time when I play as rome, they just throw pila instead
>>146107913
>>146107112
They are supposed to be the dwarfs anti large unit, except they still die to most large monters like giants 1v1 and everyting else. Meanwhile almost everything else the dwarfs have handles monsters better or straight up counters them.
Tldr: they are basically useless till they get buffed or something.
>>146108287
You should try this. Its pretty cheesey though since it fucks with the AI. For some reason they try to flank your missiles infantry and clump up and run into your melee units.
>>146107895
Then it wouldn't have mattered if they were encircled because the giant would've just broken through the lines with the log.