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/owg/ Overwatch General

>Official Stuff
http://us.battle.net/overwatch/en/community/

>Official Comics
https://comic.playoverwatch.com/en-us

>The Oversheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit#gid=1751764739/

>/owg/ ID List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-1uOqymySz22QFhC6S19HPb8WKJBDNd3ILj679bW2Sk

>Wiki
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/Overwatch_Wiki

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>/owg/ Survery
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1n4-Xcs6_u2-uPPNrSUYiyKhE1_xFxrt1NsgbsrSOw6w/viewform

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/416mmBkq

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com

>Porn archive
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0ByzmhGDY8u8MUWFTalAyVDBRTU0&export=download

>Overwatch DPS Sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D4jOtaosiZoM2VA9IjRRPaiMbTTZtPrD1d8mK23DPa0

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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YwF9amVIP0KMkXLAa5_S2ZqGNrEfZq_jHuMkcjoN8hg/edit#gid=0

I'm keeping track of the matches & stay/leave in.

Big surprise: Matches where my team doesn't pick stupid shit we win almost exclusively
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Widowmaker is objectively the worst waifu
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>1 pixel of Mei's freezing ray hits you
>You are now unable to turn around and you walk with a 20% speed

Sure is fun
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The beginning shows off McCree mains so well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPwlfbeQOBg
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>>145396290
I agree
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So all you pros who think winrate matters

What was your TF2 pub winrate? Just curious, you guys sound like you're really good
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>tracer vs. lucio
>two monkeys trying to hit each other while failing horribly
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>>145396168
Legit off yourself.
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First for Dva stack still viable
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xth for pepe
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>level 200+

This is my first one I've seen, has anyone here seen any?
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>>145396168
>I'm keeping track of the matches & stay/leave in.

people do that? i thought the game was all about the lootboxes and grinding them
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>>145396189
>>145396189
migrate
this thread has more posts
we'll use this one later
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how do I play D.va, also fuck widow maker and their pocket mercys
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Why does this game have no literal team balance? No reason should it be me and 5 Hanzos vs a balanced team with a healer, a tank, a support, a flanker, and so on
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>>145396242
She killed her husband. Shit waifu
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>>145396731
There will be ranked mode soon, but we have a group of Weegy Weggys who just watch e-sports all day and dream about being pro, so they solo queue in casual mode and look up all their casual mode stats and pretend they're "good" or something
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>>145396731
games about shooting people and getting easy kills.
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I legit cant play torbjorn, hes too close to the ground.

Ive never felt sick playing a computer game before but this is definitely the closest I've come to it.
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>>145397107
imagine how peter dinklage must feel
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>>145397107
>hes too close to the ground.
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>>145397259
yep. it is like playing a driving sim with the camera in the bumper. I cant deal with it.
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>>145397107
>always played the tall characters
>picked torb for the first time
>"why did I spawn in crouch?"
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hey assfuck
when genji uses deflect stop shooting at him
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bump .
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>>145397875
i usually just continue shooting him, if im lucky ill kill some teammates and the genjew once he stops swinging his sword
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Why do Widows always descope quickly after shooting? What's the benefit?
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>>145405130
you move faster when not scoped so if the enemy team has a widow, you increase your chance of survival by at least a little.
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what do you guys think about saying gg?

i say "gg ez" even if i lose lol.
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If you see this or less then 5 minutes, then congratulations you're not a mcshitter
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>>145408252
Yi Yi!
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Is there a way to get the origins skins without buying the entire game over? Like is there a way to just pay the cost difference?
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>>145396242
Huntress widow would be a good waifu.
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>>145408854
Pretty sure there's an upgrade to origins edition option
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How would you buff him?

He desperately needs one.

Don't know why blizzard only gave him 150 health
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>>145409060
I thought I remembered seeing it somewhere too, but I can't find it anywhere.
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PHARAHPLAYERS NEED TO END THEIRSELVES

FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT CHARACTER
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I'm a girl
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>>145408252
>i say "gg ez" even if i lose
I suppose losing is easy.
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>game finishing
>check widow's profile from both teams teams
>63 hours on widow next is mercy with 3 hours
>44 hours on widow next is mccree with 31 hours
>avoid this player
>avoid this player
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>>145408854
>>145409060
>>145409123
Ah I found it. If you go to buy the origins edition it gives you a discounted price at checkout.
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>>145409094
Nerf Widowmaker. Make rmb less useless.
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>>145409278
so mad
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>>145396606
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>>145409094
25 armor, he's a robot and doesn't have any.
Would make sense, and help him not die to a single Tracer clip if she's shit.
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>tfw no succubus(male) gf
>tfw not a succubus(male)
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Have you got your Pharah yet /owg/?
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>>145410090
>Wasting money on figurines
>Wasting money on disgustingly ugly figurines
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>>145410090
>literal dogshit skin
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>>145410228
Jelly

>>145410236
That skin is awesome though, love the helmet change
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>>145410090
What's the appeal for these? The giant stupid head and the beady eyes are so unappealing. Is it some sort of refined moe taste or something? I mean, at least it's not like the super sexualized hot glue fodder, but Christ, man, why not wait for some cooler looking shit?
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>>145410295
They're cute and cheap.
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>can't play Torbjorn anymore because anyone competent downs my turret in seconds
>end up as a shitty damage dealer unless i'm ulting
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Is it sad that I haven't had this much fun with a multiplayer game in years?
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reminder to never trust replays
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I can't play this game anymore. The people can't fathom teamwork or switching out characters. I don't know why, but these people I can put in group with are fucking retards.
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>>145410090
I'd buy a good quality figure if they ever made one
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I found one /owg/
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>lvl 24
>people still ignore symmetras turrets

I thought I get matched with better people as I level up.
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>>145409602
>a Hanzo named locked

Oh how amusing.
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>>145409247
D.va go back to your twitch stream
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>>145410453
sounds like a turret placement issue.
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>>145409094
Here's how I would buff him
>fix hitboxes sizes to actually fit models.
>actually learn how to aim with him and learn how to stay alive because he is squishy
>stop complaining about it on /vg/
actually I wouldn't buff him, Were you expecting all the heroes to be braindead easy? because if thats what you were expecting well, I have some bad news for you senpai.
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I hate see Mei on the other team, but I like watching her walk on my team.
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>play like shit the whole game
>minimal impact on team outcome
>didn't even know right click damage beam existed
>still get the whole team to suck my sweaty oversized clit after getting a four person rezz POTG

Feels great. Truly this hero was made for grillgaymurs.
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>>145410292

Looks a lot better in Anubis's black and gold.
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I can't play a game without atleast two epic bowmans spamming arrows like no tomorrow. Help.
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>mfw I am killed by Zenyatta

I bring great shame upon my family

>>145410941
If I had that one I would use it
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>it's a against 2 Winstons pre-made team

There's just so many of them, is this some hot meta?
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>>145410568

someone do this but with a diff overlay instead of side by side
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>>145410805
20 tickrate
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>>145409247
post feet
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>>145410985

He hits fucking hard m8, especially if you have orb on you. Don't feel shame, just spawn kill him the entire game because he can't do anything about it.
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>>145410927
>my sweaty oversized clit

That's called a dick
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>>145409094
because if zenyatta actually had any survivability he would be 100% required in every game. The only thing he needs is for his hitbox to match his model.
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I like temple of anubis
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>ult
>Mei on your team puts an ice wall in front of you
Holy fuck, just remove her from the game.
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>>145411051
Ahh yes I forgot about that.
>I would make the game atleast 60 tick rate.
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>>145411087
I do feel shame because he's a squishy, underpowered hippie

Usually I cut through Zenyattas no problem
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>>145411034

Double hot monkey dick meta is the only meta right now, everything else is subpar.
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Tfw don't know how to play symmetra
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>>145411141

you would not be having this problem if you weren't bad
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>>145411034
Counter with Roadhog. Roadhog's only counter is another Roadhog. I wish I was playing Roadhog instead of going on a date tonight.
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>>145411137
I like it much more now that I seem to get decently matched rounds there
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>>145396728
saw one a couple of days ago believe it or not
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>>145410597

Can someone post the Reaper players collection image
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>start dodging mememura and temple of anus
>as well as every fucking koth
>actually have fun
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>>145411235
>it's not my trash main's fault, it's yours!
All Mei mains need to end their own lives.
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>>145411224
So how do you beat it? Every time me and my pals get rekt by it the enemy team goes all smug about it
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>>145411281
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>>145409094
Nerf Widowmaker, turn health into armor and allow orb casting while charging his alt fire.
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>>145411289

lol if you think i've been in the same match as a mei, much less played one. unlike you, i'm not garbage
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>>145410453
I feel like if the enemy team is downing your turrets that fast you need to just switch to another hero (preferably a counter to the pharah/widowmaker who keeps shooting your fucking turrets)
Also
>shitty damage dealer
His shotgun is excellent if you can actually aim.
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>>145411348

Thank you relative.
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>>145410927
>mfw i suck at playing mercy and scrub around doing lucio instead
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>>145409094
git gud
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>>145410292
I would by jelly if it was like a really nice figurine of her "jump jet" pose, like on a clear stand or something.

POP figures look like plastic bobble head garbage.
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>>145411348
>it keeps expanding
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>>145411294

McCrees equal to the amount of Winstons, support pref Lucio, and Roadhog and Junk. Pharrah honorable mention.

Also consider that you won't likely beat them if you team won't counterplay or suck dick at playing the counters.
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>>145411046
>side-by-side followed by half-and-half
What, you mean 50% transparency over top of each other?

or did you not watch the whole thing and see the half-and-half
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>>145409308
That doesn't work. I constantly run into the same people who I have avoided.

Or is my MMR too high and it can't find other players to match me with :^)
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>>145410407
Cheap is right. I'm convinced the only reason that company still exists is that they can make such a high per-figure profit that they can afford to use flood tactics to license whatever is popular at the moment and ship millions of trash-tier figures before anyone else can set something up.
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>>145411435
Have fun paying 10x as much for a nice figurine
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>>145411294
>Pick mcree, stun him fan the hammer.
>Repeat untill the guy gets tired of getting all the mcree cummies in his face and changes hero
>Go back to what you were playing
This works for me for about 90% of the time gorilla players tend to be really stupid and try the exact same strat untill they lose or until it works. Who would have guessed? Inferior players like to play as inferior creatures.
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>>145411034
Pick Reaper or Roadhog.
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>>145411513
They exist because they have one for basically everything

The figures are fine for the price point

You need to calm down, friend.
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>>145411281
2.0v
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>>145411513
They exist not because they're cheap, but because they're a proof of concept that in general, people buy shit if they have kawai uguu~ eyes because society views that as "cute".
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>>145411230
The key to symmetra is being aggressive as fuck. Her bug zapper hurts a lot if you can charge it for at least 2 seconds and charges her teleporter really quickly. The turrets are nice, but if you're not zapping people, you're not doing it right. Reinhardt is your personal bitch, because they're almost never willing to drop the shield to hammer you, so you just walk through the shield and turn on the juice. Then they either drop the shield to get you, and your team kills him, or he decides to hold the shield, and then you kill him. Most other tanks will go down the same way because they don't really believe that symmetra is a threat.
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>>145410927
>that mercy
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>>145411137
I like the second point First point in all capture point maps are terrible.
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>>145411484

https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=image%20diff
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>>145411679

>play symmetra
>left click someone
>jump in tight circle around them until they die
>repeat
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>>145411230
>tfw pick symmetra because fuck it why not
>place four turrets into a room
>run around love tapping people then hide inside said room
>they follow me and die

Just be creative with your turrets. Place them on important parts of the map where the enemy can't see them and over health packs.
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Me. The only reason I have as much play time with Mercy as I do. I'm sick of being unappreciated too. I run around, healing, buffing, reviving, and even doing the killing myself if I'm on a shit team. I've gotten 3 kills with my pistol. Fuck.
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>>145411230
What >>145411679 said along with not making autistic turret nests of 6 in the same spot unless you're playing against a REALLY incompetent team. Use them as flank detectors and/or put them where your team is already located to support their and your own damage with the slow.
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>>145411653

it's full of faggots doing it 'ironically' now
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>>145411818
>playing Mercy instead of Lucio

Why would you do this to yourself
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>>145410927
T H I C C
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>>145411818
>Why isn't someone sucking my dick for doing my job
Piss off.
No one pats me on the back for building a turret, why should I give you one for holding left click
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>>145411653
here ya go
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>>145411818
>I'm sick of being unappreciated too

no one gives a shit, faggot. get over yourself
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>>145411818
seek help already
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>>145411748
Image diff only works for singular image files, not video files.

The second replay in that webm with the half-and-half are synced up to the first kill (the exact frame that the red skull icon appears over your crosshair). The timing is all fucked after that frame, virtually nothing is the same.
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>>145411818
Buff
Me
Heal
Slut
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El Blanco or Mariachi?
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>>145412156
El Blanco.
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>>145412156
Mariachi
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How do I play Reinhardt guys
When people depend on me as tank it is 100% lose
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>>145412156
El Mariachi
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>it's a "Junkrat's Rip Tire is PoTG' episode
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>>145412148
>tfw literally half my killcams are some retarded mcree hitting his huge ass aoe stun then pressing m2
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>>145412218
Don't turn around the second you get hit from behind.
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>>145410752
When I try to hide the turret away they turn out not so useful.

>>145411389
I can't aim, his right click is nice though. I basically switch off him if there's a competent Widow on the enemy team.
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I've never won a game as Mercy
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>>145412156
el blanco for full ethereal levels of irony
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>>145412148
Woah there
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>>145408252
so it was you that one time in numbani. LMAO what an autist
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>>145412148
JUST REFLECT IT ANON IT'S NOT LIKE MCCREE CAN JUST THROW IT IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION OR ANYTHING
MCCREE BUFFS WHEN
FOURTY
EIGHT
PERCENT
WIN
RATE
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>>145412268

protip: don't play torbjörn when their frontline counters your turret and your backline doesn't need a turret
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>>145411595
>>145411236
>Pulling the monkey man towards you
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Only the dead can know peace from this evil.
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>>145412268
>When I try to hide the turret away they turn out not so useful.
you need to be clever with their line of sight so that they sit in a place that's hard to flank but still have view of a decent spot. Also what >>145412406 said, sometimes you just need to know when you're getting shut down and switch heroes.
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>its a death by 20 tick episode

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>145408252
>i say "gg ez" even if i lose lol.

using the chat is a sign of weakness
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>Toblerone 68.8% win rate on consoles

What's the deal? He can't be that hard to counter on a gamepad
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>>145411034
Dva can completely assrape winston, his damage is low enough that her large armor pool makes her nearly untouchable by the monkey.
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>>145411818
If it makes you feel any better, if I don't play mercy, I always say thanks when being healed and make sure to upvote her at the end of the match. because I know how much sluts love to be pat on their cute little head. <3
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>>145412554

and now i'm hungry
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>>145412645
Turret auto-aims.
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>>145412464
Over 200 damage not even counting headshots on a target that is impossible to miss. Piggy's ult totally cancels out monkey trouble ult.
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>tfw my top two mains are Mercy and Pharah
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>its an instant loss game
>through good plays and amazing ults, your team finally makes it out of their spawn

feels good
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>>145412645
console players cannot aim
turret can aim
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>>145411034
>>it's a against 2 Winstons pre-made team
>its a d.va gets to "NERF THIS" 10 times in a row because she insta charges her ult by headshotting winston
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>>145412356
>Just dodge the Hiroshima and Nagasaki nukes :^)
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>>145412645
look at widow usage on pc vs console and you might rethink that position on gamepads.
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>>145411236
>Roadhog has no counter
yeah sure
keep thinking that, while you feed the enemy team loads of ultimates because you have 600 regular HP
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>>145412725
>Trying to hook the monkey man
>He and his monkey pal drop their banana shields all over the point
Now what
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>>145412645
PCMR meming aside, a lot of console players are probably genuinely too incompetent to counter the concept of a turret period not even counting aiming issues.
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>>145412726
Good god
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>>145412726
>Posting worst ship
making Phara mains look tumblr as fuck
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>>145412726
>tfw whenever I play Mercy I usually prioritize pharas/mccrees/soldier 76's
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>Torb is the Widow of consoles

is McCree just as cancerous?
do people play any of the projectile characters?

I wanna know what console is like
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>>145412726
i really want some coffee now
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>>145412356
>FOURTY

Forty.
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>>145412645
The average console aim is so bad that even Torb's turret is OP.
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>>145412892
you think you do, but you don't.
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How do i git gud at genji?
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>>145412983
no, I really want to know what people on consoles hate vs what they consider useless
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You know, I can almost accept the ridiculous damage output of Widow, but I can't fucking deal with the ult being almost completely silent and without visual cues.

Every time I peek a corner and get headshot, it's the killcam that shows me they had the fucking wallhack. You don't see any kind of effect on the Widowmaker like you do with every other ult, and the announcement is so innocuous as to be meaningless.

Fuck Widowmaker.
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>>145412645
Console aim is so bad that they recommend The good 'ol days after 9/11 -Winston to counter Bastion.
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>>145412960
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It's like watching toddlers bump into each other

fucking hilarious
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>>145411653
I hate that people added memes or ironic shit to this. Like edgelord, vapelord and cummies? How is that funny. It's legitimately amusing to find people playing reaper with names like "nihilist" and "sorrow".
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>>145412892
I play on console, the only way people beat me when I play torbjörn is by hunting me as three and preventing me from even thinking about placing a turret. People are so terrible at aiming and I've gotten so good at turret placing that I can play him on any map and have success. the most eliminations I've gotten in a game where 41.
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Do you prefer Angry Old Man 76 or Dad 76?
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>>145410568
What's the difference here?
>>
>play Zarya
>have ult, team is backing me up
>use ult on a group of enemies
>my team is gone and I die instantly because I only have 400 health and my shield is down

Fucking epic.
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>>145413016
harass from range, if you decide to go in either M1 or M2, shift afterwards, target should be dead by then or low, press Q to kill everything

everything else is self-explanatory and practice
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>>145413016
Map knowledge + combos
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>>145413189
>not a little of both
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>>145413080
>hear widowmaker say something in french
>enemy wallhacks active
do you not play with your sound on anon?
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>>145412960
>that fucking sensivity
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how do you counter Widow's ult?
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>>145410090
I love Pharah!
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>widowmaker absent in a match
>actually have fun

hmm..
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>>145412960
do they have the exact same hitboxes and detection on console?

i would end myself if i had to play on that
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>>145412794
Roadhog can heal 300 hp every few seconds so a good player is going to 'feed' them a lot more but that player is also killing anything that gets in hook range.

>>145412830
You can two shot the monkey while his dps on you is garbage
>They see you coming and shield up
Then you are playing Roadhog wrong. Only rarely should you 'tank' with Roadhog you should be playing him like a much more powerful (and granted less mobile) Reaver
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>>145413080
the whole concept of a wallhack for the entire team is bullshit

it's already overpowered enough if it's just her since it gives her the ability to headshot you before you're even around the corner, the fact that the entire team gets it too makes no sense

so many times I've tried to flank a good defense only to have 3 people on the enemy team hunt me down because lol they can see me through walls
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>>145411418
>I pick the better healer
Nothing of value lost
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>>145411714
source?
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>>145413256
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>>145413285
You have to be sniffing her ass to hear it.
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what if Winston melee attack does 2x damage compared to the other heroes? he is a gorilla
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>>145413342
Me too
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>place a sneaky turret somewhere
>people don't know how to work together so they just run into it alone and die
>noone switches to reinhardt or genji
>a hanzo wastes his ult trying to kill it

Torbjörn is the most fun hero for solo play, fuck.
>>
>Overwatch patch
>"No Lucio" is now a team role prompt
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>>145413339
Wait it out and avoid pushing/taking large flanks while you know it's up
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>>145413339
leave the game
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>>145413016
This doesn't only apply to Genji, but don't fucking stray far away from your team because you're the "offense."
In a team game like this you will be near close to your healer/tank and widdle down enemies you see with your M1. If you are trying to take out a sniper you have to use the environment and get close/sneak around them. Your shurikens do a shit ton if you can chain in 2 at the least every second. But keep in mind a scoped in WM can die to 2 shurikens, melee and your shift. Your shift reset's cooldown when it's used for a kill so you can chain in kills.
Use your E wisely, it can either fuck you up and let someone melee you or you can turn a fight the other way.
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>>145413359
Yes.
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>>145413205
>group with friend

>FIRE AT WILL!

>It's me as Lucio throwing blobs and Zarya throwing nukes to 4 guys

>Our reaper and hanzo nowhere to be found
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>>145413387
I disagree.
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>>145413394
>nerdrage
>harmful

nah dude, they just sperg out for a second, shove some people and thats it
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WHY THE FUCK DOES WIDOW'S ULT GIVE HER ENTIRE TEAM WALLHACKS

BLIZZARD YOURE FUCKING RETARDED
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>>145413425
As do I
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Junkrat is the most bullshit hero in this game. I'd honestly rather a nerf to him than McCree.
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>>145413285

It gets drowned out pretty easily, unlike "I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS" with a constant ra-ta-ta-ta of the pulse rifle and a gigantic pair of glowing goggles.
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>>145413080
Widowmaker is shit. All games start off with me emoting around corners to see if a sniper was waiting a few seconds to pop out. Even after that half the time I do a double take as I'm about to exit to an area to bait a wallhacking Sniper shot. At least give her rifle some visible laser and let her ult give the enemy team wallhacks against her.
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>>145413198
PotG aren't accurate, neither are highlights. The PotG should be identical to the Live recording, but they aren't. Hitboxes, crosshair placement, and timing are all off.

20 tick is awful, server-side "recordings" aren't accurate enough to be used, ever.

You'll see people accusing others of hacking with Hanzo or Widow after watching a PotG.
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>>145410090
When's cum tribute?
>>
>lucio cant use his ult until he touches the ground
>it also has a charge up
this is good balance

>mercy can use her ult anywhere in range of a dead body
>it is pixel perfect instant and charges ridiculously fast
this is bad balance
>>
>tried playing McCree
>I just can't do well

why is this, what is my problem here? I just keep on dying all the time and never killing anyone.
>>
>00:15 objective time on KotH
>gold medal
FUCK THIS BULLSHIT
CAN I PERHAPS GET A TEAM THAT KNOWS HOW GAME MODES WORK ALREADY?
>>
Are there people

In this thread

As we speak and shitpost during e3

That will seriously try to claim that the enemy widow's wallhack is even remotely easily audible?

I can't even give that a (You), no (You) for you
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>>145413787

Once you are below 50%
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>>145413787
>Gold metal for 00:00 minutes
how?
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>>145413540
You can hear almost every ult from the other side of the map.
You cannot hear widow's ult unless you're close to her.
This is a fact, it's not something you can argue about.
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>>145413713
How bad are you?
>>
T w E n T y

i

C

k
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>>145413787
pssh who cares about objectives, I have the most eliminations, scrub get on my level, we would have won if you weren't so terrible at the game.
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>>145413915

I'd ask you the same question.
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>>145413836
Turn on Dolby Atmos, and listen to her voice .ogg file multiple times.

>personne n'échappe à mon regard
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>>145413836
>TIL i have super hearing (or a good pair of headphones)
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>>145413776
I have no fucking clue how that ult got past development. The guy responsible for frost mages balanced Widow and Mercy.
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>>145413787

>tfw gold metal for damage, kills, objective time, and healing
>as zenyatta
>on attack
>after 8 minutes
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>>145413836
>try to claim that the enemy widow's wallhack is even remotely easily audible?

its not, the best way to detect it is running around a corner and seeing a hanzo, mercy, widowmaker wait for your ass, thats when you know its active
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>>145409308
Avoid only prevents the system from putting them on your team. It can still match you against them.
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>>145396543
The average tf2 player is/was way worse. You could often single handedly win a game simply because no one would try to stop you from capping and those who did were still so shit you could wreck their shit.
Now, of course lobbies are a totally different matter.
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>>145413974
>TIL
helloo reddit
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Widow nerfs r8

150 health
slow sniper rof
slower shot charge time
slower scoped move speed
audible ult voiced line
cooldown removed from grapple
longer grapple startup
grapple doesn't auto aim
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>>145413663
But does she love her daddy?
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>>145413663
Those thighs
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>>145413734
>Widowmaker is shit.
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>>145409094
It's less that he needs a buff and more that Widowmaker shouldn't be able to 1 shot him.
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>play a flanking character
>end the game with gold objective time

god dammit guys
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>>145413974
Fucking kill yourself.
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>there's a symmetra exploit where you can just hide your turrets in certain walls

nice game
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>>145396543
>What was your TF2 pub winrate?
what the flying fuck is that even worth
TF2 was more about how long could i stay in the air while i shit out random crit-rockets onto the poor bastards head until he ragequits
>>
>we will never get a team death match because Overwatch isn't built for that kind of game mode
>every match will be painful grinding out meters on a payload or sitting on a point
>we won't even get dominion

Fuck.
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>>145396543
tf2 pubs were fucking braindead

Any decent soldier could top score and carry the game by himself in valve servers, it's far more difficult to do this in overwatch. The average overwatch player is much better than the average tf2 player
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>idiot keep saying LOL EZ after every match if they win
>they lose the next couple of matches after getting killed repeatedly
>[chucklefuck] has left the game
People get too fucking salty in this game.
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>>145413974
What the fuck is TIL
Use real words, not internet words

And no, it's still not. When you've got hanzo and the rest of the cast screaming at the top of their lungs comparitively, there's no excuse for the whisper
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>>145414078
cute! CUTE!!
>>
Why do supports (other than Symmetra perhaps) even have highlight intros? They never ever in a million years get a PotG anyway.
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Is it true that your game literally has 20 tickrate servers?

And it's a first person shooter, right?

I don't think that computes very well.
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>>145414076

Needs a visual of some kind, like every other ult in the game.
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do i make you sick?
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>>145412960
>console awareness
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>>145413663
>tfw no art of Pharah softly kissing Mercy's plump thighs
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>>145409094
Give him 1 more hp
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>>145414193
its more like most tf2 servers are 12 v 12 so you can afford a couple of braindead teammates

6 v 6 means that even a single braindead teammate can bring down the entire match
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high mmr bros ww@

>tfw always get queued with pros and streamers
>tfw don't have to worry about people who "main" someone and never switch
>tfw usually close games, never getting btfo
>tfw people always think I'm on c9
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>>145414270
It does not, and is terrible.

Game's fun though
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>>145414206

>you lose the game
>tryhard widowmaker on your team gives 3 paragraph long synopsis of why it was his team's fault for losing and not his because snipers carry games
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>>145413836
>ultimate is straight up wallhacks
>xd she stealthy her ult is supposed to be harder to hear
Go fuck yourself with a cactus if you've ever said that.

I still hear it 6/10 times and inform my team, it's still bullshit though
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>>145414238
>today i learned

this is pretty common knowledge

She's audible only when alive. So if you die and she activates it, you won't hear it. The whisper just lacks reverb, if you turn on Dolby Atmos you can almost always hear it.
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>>145414279
show your stats not hours played, then we'll decide
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>>145396242
YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
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>>145409094
he honestly doesn't need a health buff. he needs his RMB fixed (yes it is broken, there exists a bug that makes you consume an extra ammo without actually firing it). either lengthen the auto discharge time or remove it entirely.

also, let him cast harmony/discord while charging. his most powerful attack is gimped because of his orb mechanics.

thats it. his """potential""" damage output completely justifies his 150 health, the problem is that its nigh impossible to fully utilize his kit to reach that potential.
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>>145414078
Reaper? I doubt it.
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>>145414078
>solider 76 is Pharah's father

This would be cool.
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>>145414279
>n.1 isn't hanzo or genji
not really, no
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>>145414269
Mercy gets play of the game almost 100% if she rezzes 3+ teammates at once. Lucio isn't that hard to get one with on Illios or Lijiang where you have lots of chances to bounce people off the map. Zenyatta properly played is a killing machine so im not sure why you think he wouldn't be getting them.
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>>145396242
Marie and Callie are shit
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>>145414009
I just got gold for damage as Zen on defense.
After 6 minutes of getting shot by Widow.
It was ~5100.
I have no fucking idea what my team was doing all that time, and I don't care anymore.
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How do I make a Hanzo player feel like shit?

I'm sick of this faggot being capable landing a perfect one hit kill shot with little to no effort
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>>145414343
>50% hook accuracy
real pros alright

>none of the mccrees have cards
ayy
>>
So any news with specific details on the Widowmaker/McREE nerfs?
>>
>Traveling to Nepal
>it's round 2, team has no support, only tank is D.va, two Genjis
>leave
>Traveling to Nepal
>leave
>Traveling to Nepal
>leave
I DON'T WANT TO FUCKING PLAY THAT MATCH, BLIZZARD
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>>145414382
>this is pretty common knowledge
No its fucking not.
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>>145413364

I'd be down for her to get full hax, and only have the hax appear to her teammates if they are in sight.
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>>145414076

>150 health
I don't think so. A Widow shouldn't be able to bodyshot another Widow.

>slow sniper rof
Maybe. Or just lower her base charge shot power.

>slower shot charge time
Yes

>slower scoped move speed
Nah she's already really slow

>audible ult voiced line
Should be louder, but not like Junkrat or D.Va

>the rest
Her grapple is fine, that's not what makes her so strong
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>>145414193
Its pretty difficult to be bad at overwatch, its easy to be bad at tf2.

>>145414272
What if widow's ult revealed her location to the enemy team. too harsh?
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>say anything in chat
>team blames you for losing

No wonder nobody speaks
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>>145414269
>They never ever in a million years get a PotG anyway.

i have gotten exactly 9 POTG in the 13 hours played with Zen.
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>>145414269
>>They never ever in a million years get a PotG anyway.

>mercy, revive 3 people
>lucio, knock some poor retard off a cliff with M2
ayy lmao
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>>145414474
Play Lucio, dance around him, then melee him to death for extra effect.
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>>145413836
I'VE GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS
IT'S ABOUT TWELVE 'O BONG
FIRE IN THE HOLE [LOUD ENGINE SOUNDS]
LET'S DROP THE BEAT
JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE
[EXTREMELY LOUDLY WISHES YOU TO DIE]
PULLING THOUSAND FOLDED NIPPON STEEL WHILE YELLING IN WEEB
RYUUGA WA HAKUNAMATATA
BEEP BO BEEP MOTHERFUCKER
CHING CHONG CHUNG ICE CREAM TRUCK NOISES
MOLTEEEEEEEEEEEEEN COOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE
NERF THIS [TAKES THREE YEARS TO FINALLY HAPPEN]
I'M GOING FOR POGOSTICK CHAMPION
BIG RED MONKEY TROUBLE
NAZI PROPAGANDA SPEECH THAT RAISES THE DEAD
PASS INTO THE IRIS
[hon hon baguettes quietly in the distance]
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>>145414513
You're the kind of person that says "lol" out loud instead of just laughing, aren't you?
>>
>>145414523
>A Widow shouldn't be able to bodyshot another Widow.
That's already the case though.
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>>145413394

>That filename

20/10 anon tickled my kek bone
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>>145414343
>tfw I go on 4chan and make things up and make myself look like an enormous faggot
>>145411379
>tfw I go on 4chan and make things up and make myself look like an enormous faggot
>>
>>145412570
no, using the chat is an easy way of tilting your opponents and thus gaining an advantage
>>
>>145414523
>A Widow shouldn't be able to bodyshot another Widow.
Bodyshot damage nerfed to 100. Her kit is absolute fucking bullshit, and either she becomes squishy as shit to justify it or she needs gigantic nerfs to her damage.
>Or just lower her base charge shot power.
No. 1.5s before she even starts charging after scoping in or shooting.
>>
I love how everyone is fucking General Patton after the match. Oh we should have went left? Where was that wisdom during the match?
>>
>>145414425
>>145414243
Would be neat if he was her father figure, but in lore she was born two years before Overwatched formed. Given how her mother sounds terrible in the lore, having Jack Morrison basically raise her and stuff would be great.
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>>145414343
>level 10
>already getting matching level 90's

Feels good.
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>play mercy
>enemy winston jumps right at me from across the map
>i get the 3 inch money dick for a good minute while i shoot him
>my teammates don't do jack and shit and i die

I can understand having trouble stopping a tracer from ending me, but fuck you if you're this dense.
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>>145414313
>Pharah softly kissing Mercy's plump thights

Closest I've got to it. The knowing smile on Pharah's face says it all.
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>>145414572
>>then melee him to death for extra effect.
>trying to melee a hanzo ever
>half assed bodyshot into scatter arrow
>dead

smart move
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PICK ONE HERO, CHAMPION OR CLASS FROM ANY OTHER GAME

THAT HERO, CHAMPION OR CLASS IS NOW IN OVERWATCH

WHICH DO YOU PICK AND WHY?
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>>145414561
The first rarely if ever gives potg, the second literally never.

>>145414558
Then you obviously won't mind sharing them with the rest of the class.
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>>145414382
>Dolby Atmos

Well too bad it turns audio quality into those meme loving 420 mlg videos.
>>
>Pick tracer to dive the backline and harass enemies
>See a lone hanzo
>Decide to go after him
>He panics and shoots his scatter arrow at his feet
>Die

>>145414672
Hindsight is 20/20
>>
>>145414382
>that's common knowledge
No
No, I refuse to believe literal fucking memespeak is your definition of common knowledge, you have to be 18 to post after all
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>>145414616
Is mercy the only one whose ult call changes with costume?
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>>145414669
>1.5s before she even starts charging after scoping in or shooting.

That's ridiculous. Maybe if the maps were twice the size they are now.
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>>145414719
Do read the entirety of what I wrote.
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>>145414728
Loki from smite just to hear the crying.
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>>145414785
hanzo's changes with the wolf skins, there are probably more too
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>>145414785
i think hanzos line changes too slighty when he summons wolves instead of dragons
>>
>>145414728
I choose Thor from Smite. He'd only have 200hp and melee left click attacks in overwatch, but all of his skills would be so overpowered.
>>
>>145414734
>the second literally never.

It's half the fucking PotGs on Lijiang.
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>it's a weeb name instapicks genji game
can you faggots get anymore stereotypical
>>
>>145414758

When will people stop picking Tracer

Not only is she just shit Genji/Reaper in terms of picking off backliners

But she has 150 hp. She's weak for the same reason Zenyatta is weak. OHKO bodyshots
>>
Friendly reminder that if someone types "we have no healer" or "we have no tank" you should ignore or tell him to shut up since he isn't changing either.
Also stop trying so much to have a perfectly balanced comp,
>a 6 torbjrorn team will effectively destroy all team compositions about 90% of the time on defense modes.
and lastly If you want to legit have fun stop trying to fill and just play whatever the fuck you want despite what garbage players will say.
You feel like playing widow? oh but you already have a widow? guess what there's no reason for you to give a fuck, It's a pub game for a reason. If you care so much about it well, cry or someshit. If you want to have fun play what you feel like playing, not what the team needs.
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>playing Reaper
>get behind enemy
>kill a guy, rest of the team alerted, prepare to make an escape
>friendly Zarya puts a shield on me right before I wraith out of there

did I let her down?
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>>145414785
Wolf Hanzo changes the line and the dragons into wolves
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>>145414819
No, that's what needs to be done to justify her damage. Windowlickers getting kills by double tapping bodyshots is absolute fucking bullshit.
Either her rate of fire goes to below 1/s or she has to wait before the charge even fucking starts.
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>>145414382
It's not.
I'm fully alive when it happens.
And how does that negate the fact that everyone else screams while she whispers into something you need to adjust audio for, and this is "balanced"
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>>145414645
what am I making up

are you an mmr denier?
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>>145414523
Grapple stuff wasn't really supposed to be a nerf. No cooldown on grapple would be really fun, you could use it more aggressively instead of saving it for when a pharah divebombs you.
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>>145414785
Okami/lone wolf hanzo changes a lot of his dialogue. Anything to do with dragons is changed to wolves
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DPS - Mixed Table: Best ability per character(1 per character)

1. Bastion - Sentry Gun - 525
2. McCree - Fan the Hammer - 420
3. Reaper - Hellfire Shotguns - 280
4. Tracer - Pulse Pistol - 240/120
5. Roadhog - Scrap Gun - 225
6. Junkrat - Frag Launcher - 199.2
7. Torbjorn - Rivet Gun(Alt) - 199.5
8. Zarya - Particle Cannon(100% Charge) - 190
9. Soldier 76 - Heavy Pulse Rifle - 170
10. Dva - Fusion Cannons - 168
11. Mei - Icicle - 135
12. Widowmaker - Assault - 130
13. Pharah - Rocket Launcher - 120
14. Symmetra - Photon Projector - 120
15. Genji - Shuriken Spread - 115
16. Zenyatta - Orb of Destruction - 112.5
17. Mercy - Caduceus Blaster - 100
18. Hanzo - Storm Bow(Full Power) - 92.5
19. Reinhardt - Rocket Hammer - 75
20. Lucio - Sonic Amplifier - 64
21. Winston - Tesla Cannon - 60
22. Torbjorn - Level 2 Turret - 56

>but Zenyatta is already OP, he's SICK damage, m8!

When will this meme end?
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>>145414946
If you took 0 bubble damage, then yes you did
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>enemy hanzo
>inhuman aimbot capable of wiping your team instantly whenever he chooses

>friendly hanzo
>can't hit a stationary bastion
>misses HUKATAKAWACKY DRAGON ULT every time
>preaches the team on the scorecard screen that he isn't on for being bad
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i desperately need widow porn brehs
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>>145414785
>>145414905
>>145414910

The wolf skins change the line in hanzo's ult call to reference the japanese words for wolves rather than dragons

Okami I think?

Changes his Sonic Arrow too.

>See through the dragon's eyes

Changes to

>See through the wolf's eyes
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>>145414935
>telling the only tank to switch to a healer
>telling the only healer to switch to a tank
>telling (player who fills a niche) to switch to a (currently not fulfilled niche)
neck yourself
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>>145414924
>frogposter complaining about weebs
Can you faggot get anymore stereotypical
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>>145414935
>>a 6 torbjrorn team will effectively destroy all team compositions about 90% of the time on defense modes.
t. console player
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>>145414672
Especially those fuckers that scream get on the point/push payload. When I'm 1v6 the other team because everyone else is back at spawn so how exactly am I supposed to hold the fucking point/push payload at the end? Magic?
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People get so upset in this game, holyshit, i can literally taste it in my mouth how hateful they are.

This isnt my first multiplayer but ive never seen people go actually full retard in a shooter.
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>>145415008
Slow down there my fallacious friend. Zenyatta has no damage falloff, where as characters such as Bastion, Mcree, reaper and tracer have immense damage fall out.
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>>145414747
But it doesn't, it turns on sound spatialization. Basically CS:GO footsteps.

All ult sounds become directional and global.

>>145414785
All enemy ults are spoken in their native tongue, if they have one.

Exceptions are Pharah and Lucio, who only speak English.
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>>145414523
She shouldn't be able to bodyshot anyone with that short charge time.
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>>145414373
But she is cute! CUTE!
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>>145415008
delet this

they are going to nerf my precious british girl
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>>145414969
>playing against streamers means you're good
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>>145414935
>i like having a 25% winrate

you do you buddy
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>>145415008
you aren't counting the discord modifier.
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>>145415149
those are the people who played mobas before

you can tell, its painfully obvious
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>>145414728
Gaige from Borderlands. Don't even have to aim anymore :^)
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Overwatch 2D co-op beat em up when?
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>>145411230

Poo in the street
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>>145414728
Corvo Attano

That's actually a worse idea the more I think about it since he's basically reaper and widowmaker.
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>>145409094
Make it so Widowmaker bodyshots don't delete him instantly.

Or even better yet, just remove Widowmaker from the game.

>>145410090
>Not waiting for figures like the one they put on display
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>>145414728
the lost vikings
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>>145415259
>2D co-op beat em up

literally never. what was the last decent one? Scott Pilgrim? DFO?
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>>145415176
>All enemy ults are spoken in their native tongue, if they have one.
What are you on about? He's talking about Mercy's "for a price" and "til Valhalla" lines.
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>>145414961

You're at a 10. Calm down from your froth and come back when you're a more reasonable 3 or 4.
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>>145414967
I never said anything about balance, I was talking about hearing it period. Which you can.

I agree with you it does need to be louder.
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>>145411230
W + M1
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Tank Difficulty Tier List

>Zarya
>Dva
>Winston
>ROADHOG
>Shield Man

Yes/No
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So are McSkills and Widowmainers on suicide watch or is there nothing to worry about?
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>>145415008
>listing Torb's turret instead of his 140 DPS non-falloff headshotting sniper rifle of a gun
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>>145414728
Arc Titan from Destiny. With the death from above perk so I can superman into a group and kill them all with the ult.
>>
Why is it that I keep playing with people over level 100 and I'm only level 30?
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>>145415395

I'd say D,va is more difficult because she's not actually a tank at all.
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>>145415349
Scott Pilgrim was pretty great

There was some anime style one, Phantom Breaker I think? And it was decent
>>
https://youtu.be/Pn_9xA-SuLc
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>Got Okami hanzo
>It looks good
>But I like him screaming about dragons more than screaming about wolves
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>>145415417
McSkill will still delete over half the roster with his combo

we dont even know what type of nerf Widow is getting
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>>145415192
She is and I fap to Widowmaker lewds every day and fill in the sniper slot when one of those 60 hour autists dont take it, I still want to see her gutbrought down to a level where she is balanced
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>>145414905
>>145414910
>>145414952
The timing on the wolf call is also slightly different. It's not a gamebreaker, but you will have a bit less time on the heads up.
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>>145415420
>headshotting
ehh, thats a bit hyperbolic m8. the drop on his LMB is pretty significant.
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>>145415349
>>145415459

>Scott Pilgrim
>Good

The music and the sprites were great but it played like ass.
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>>145415202
wait is he killing him with melee only?
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>defense
>attacking team has hanzo and widow
>they lose
>"lmao two snipers on attack"
>"gold medal on kills, what about you"
>mfw
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>>145415202
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>>145415215
>I don't understand that by enjoying what I do I instantly boost my ability to learn and git gud at the game, the post.
Anyways I don't mind carrying games and forcing shitters to change because im 100x better than them at the hero they are already using.
>>
Honestly if any of you "main" Bastion then you should probably kill yourself.
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>>145415372
Stop defending your crutch. Widow is bullshit broken, and the only way to fix her is to nerf her damage OR make her squishy as shit.
There is no reason for something with her kit to have next to no weaknesses and idiotic damage.
>>
some post that webm of torb getting like 10 shutdowns against junkrat
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>>145412156
El Blanco

Bonus points if you spam his "Back in Black" voice line
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>>145414343
Maybe somewhere here.
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>>145415537
It played great. You had to unlock some upgrades first but it got more fun the more you played
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>>145415534
Yeah, but I can conveniently ignore that just like that listanon is ignoring a bunch of other factors.
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>>145410090

This Figure doesn't make me want to cover it in hot glue. No Buy.
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>>145415417
McCree will still take a shit on any squishy that walks around his corner and the ones that can m1 will be fine
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>>145415176
Enemy lucio: Let's drop the beat!
Friendly Lucio: Let's break it down!

Enemy pharah: JUSTICE RAINS FROM AAAAGH-
Friendly Pharah: ROCKET BARRAGE ACTIVA-AGGGH
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>>145414728
I don't have any idea how he'd work, but give me my handsome Zac.
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>When you're grouping up with your entire team to defend the point for that last percentage on KoTH and you get sucked in by Zenyas ult
>"ryuu ga waga teki WO KURAU!"
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>>145415612

Maybe I didn't spend enough time with it.

I remember it being pretty grindy.
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>>145414728
I just miss Spy desu
it would be especially fun because of the lolbabbies playing this game who'd cry about how invisibility is toxic and antifun
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>>145415417
don't blizzard have a history of shitty balance changes?
it's probably going to be something that changes nothing like 5% reduction to FtH damage and 0.002 increased sniper charge rate
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>>145396806
the balance is being able to change your team whenever you want
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>>145414785
I bet Mexican reaper would say some funny shit.
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>>145415543
Yes. He punched him to death.
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>>145415620
What's the fucking point of pop figures anyway they all look fucking retarded
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>>145415657
I still often get friendly and enemy Lucio ults confused. They're the only ones so similar.
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>>145415710
>Hello sir you filed a support ticket about getting griefed in game?
>ON OF MY OWN TEAM KILLED ME AGAIN AND AGAIN BAN HE
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>>145415687
It was a little grindy but you could easily put in cheat codes (remember cheat codes?) or there was one early level that you could repeat to get lots of cash, and upgrade before moving on

The first few hours with the game are meh but it improves after that
>>
>>145415372
>that tone policing
>ignoring that the anger is part of the problem

>>145415578
Any nerf to Widowmaker will effectively reduce her effectiveness and make her unusable in play. Keep her where she is and give everyone else except for Tracer, D.Va (no mech), and Zenyatta a health boost.
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>>145415202
How do we stop him
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>>145409918
>Succubus
>(Male)

The are called INCUBUS... You uncultured lil shit
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>>145415543
yes
hanzo mains are so retarded they don't realize they can melee back with the same damage
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>>145415578

Still at a 10 there, buddy.
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>>145415202
Just your typical Hanzo player that loses you the game.
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>>145415667
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can't make this shit up
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>mfw every fanartist draws Pharah like she has limbs and not the full mech aug goddess she really is
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>tfw I just joined a game during the "Victory" screen
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>>145415775
See >>145410407
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>>145414728
zues

I want chain lightning and fucking lightning bolts on everyones heads on ulti
>>
This is your team on defense. What do you do?

Somehow we won
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>>145415865
Holy fuck, every time. You think everyone would know it's an ebin doujin reference by now but there's always someone who still bites. It's getting sad.
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>>145415865
Every time you give this exact reply you feed the meme
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>get used to being called out for complaining
>constantly mistake someone's words for being towards me & not someone else
>unnecessarily tryhard at that individual the next match
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>>145415984
Where's the sixth?
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>>145415202
I FUCKING HATE SP00N SO FUCKING MUCH LOUD FAT FAGGOT FUCK WONT SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT REDDIT AND MORTY I GET IT YOU HAVE NO SELF RESPECT FATASS
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>>145415417
>Blueberry and McRightclick get nerfed
But then what heroes will the kiddies/babbies cry about then?
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>>145412960
>console players
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>>145415984
That's not even that bad tbqfhwu
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>>145416083
t. windowlicker main
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>>145415815
>make her unusable in play
>not being able to spam high powered body shots makes a sniper unusable

do you even hear yourself right now?
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>>145416045
Whats wrong with reaper players seriously. You dont see any other people making these kind of silly edgy names

Do they just want to be special?
>>
Why are people so salty when I get POTG as bastion and Im not even in sentry mode in it?
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>>145415901
But 50 meme isn't real :^)
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>>145413072
Xbone here, McCree is about just as bad since all the CoD fags spam the easiest ways to do anything. Torbs are only somewhat a problem cause no one seems to keep situational awareness and think, "hey I wonder what is shooting me from over there." If you run into a Widow that is good, it's just as horrible as on PC, and a good Pharra is a fucking nightmare. Play this game so much been thinking about getting a mouse and keyboard converter.
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>>145416083
Probably Tracer and Torbjorn.

Assuming they don't just continue to bitch about McCree because they're not nerfing his oneshot combo against squishies.
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>>145414935
>>145414935
>>145414935
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>>145414728
Kira from dirtybomb. I want that laser.
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>>145416083
Winston
Rein
Reaper
Mei complaining skyrockets even more
>>
>>145416164
It counts koth wins and losses.

I think.
>>
>>145416083
Junkrat, Roadhog, and Mei
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>>145415984
Pick Widow and join in on the fun.
>>
I still can't find a fucking zoomed sensitivity I'm comfortable with for Widow, just fuck my shit up.
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>Would you like thighs with that?
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>>145415905
There's no real word out if she has cyberlimbs or not. However, she looks like a normal human with the Security Chief skin, at least.
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>>145414439
Best girls, put all others to shame.
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>>145416293
That face
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>>145414728
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>>145416292
It's in the options, under Widowmaker. Just go to the top right corner in the gameplay options, and you'll find it.
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>>145414712
>walk out of spawn
>get killed by some flanker
>"where is our healer"
>>
>>145415215
forcing people into roles they aren't experienced with is the easiest way to lose.
>>
this forced 54% reeee
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>>145415815
>unusable in play
>widows can't bodyshot people for 150 anymore or get killed when something flanks them
>unusable
this is how snipers are supposed to be you fucking idiot. if you didn't notice, it's a sniper that can 2shot basically everything non-tank with bodyshots, that can grapple away when flanked, that's impossible to flank because of a vision ward AND wallhacks on top of it.
she's bullshit fucking broken and needs nerfs like fuck.
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>>145416293

>face
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>>145416181
>Not Arty
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>>145416296
There is, she has normal limbs. No amount of fuck ups on her model changes that until anything different is revealed.
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>using flashbang greatly increases aim spread
does that fix mcskill?
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>>145416464
Literally me senpai
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>>145414728
teemo
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>>145414714
>fly me closer, I want to hit them with my staff
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>>145411236
Reaper fucks the hog pretty hard man. That or I'm just bad
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>>145414728
Cho'Gall from heroes of the storm just because the retardation involved with giving 2 people control of one character in a FPS game sounds like it would create hilarity.
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>tumblr
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>>145412892
McCree is top cancer. Fan the hammer, stun and auto-aim ult makes him very OP. Needs to be nerfed hard.

Widowmaker is not nearly as bad as PC thanks to console aim, people can still do decent with her, but she's not getting POTG very often.

Mei is also worse than PC I think, again because of the ability to stop people in their tracks. I wouldn't say she's OP but if a team doesn't coordinate she can cause havoc.

Tolberone is pretty bad because people just suck at figuring out where they are. 9 times out of 10 when I switch to Pharah it's to destroy turrets that no one else seems to care about stopping.
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>>145416518
I'd be okay with arty
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>>145415215
>I care about my winrate in pubs
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when will blizzard release new skins i want to spend more shekels
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>>145416529
no that's retarded, here's how to actually fix him
>flashbang only prevents you from moving, not from looking around or shooting
>fan the hammer can only fire 3 shots at a time
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>>145416293
It's like they forgot to draw faces that aren't Pearl.
>>
>>145413072
Also it's seems like most Genjis are just as useless on console, but the few decent ones can really fuck shit up. Mains are still a fucking problem cause people will constantly run face first into their counter because "I'm better than them!" Most people try to play objective, yet they always run into a 1v6 or 2v6 and expect to do jack shit.
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>Kill two people with Concussion mine
>Kill another 2 with grenades while defending a point pretty much single-handedly
>PotG is given to a Widow for "shutting down" a 76 and then taking random awful body shots at a Reinhardt while standing completely still.

Fuck this game sometimes.
>>
>>145416568
>Cho'Gall
He's from WoW.
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>>145416498

Aw, Toblerone is butthurt that he has a viable hard counter. Whenever i see that dirty swede I go Widow and ride his ass until the match ends.
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>>145416083
Genji. Halfway decent ones can fuck up a lot of teams especially ones with backline whores
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>>145416617
They're monitoring the weekly playrate of people who spend money past a certain threshould (you) and when a good chunk of them stop p[l]aying for a while they'll decide to release some of the new content they've got saved up.
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>>145416690
Q better
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>get a legendary
>it's fucking money
>get two duplicates as well
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
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>>145416296
Are you sure? Maybe I'm retarded but this makes it look more like an action figure.
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>>145416693
I specifically meant the cho'gall hero from HOTS because of the 2 people play one character mechanic. I am fully aware of his origins.
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>>145416708
Does Widow have a hard counter that's not "a better Widow"?
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>>145416296
>>145415905

Blizz confirmed no augs

Shehas a fucking augmented/mecha skin though you degenerates. Just enjoy that. Leave canon pharah alone
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>Zarya literally has a voice line about wanting to hug you

Best waifu confirmed
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>>145408005
but in a 1v1 that shit would be useless right?
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>>145416293
I thought the stuff on the side was arm hair
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>>145416749
sup Smedley.
>>
>>145416848
Winston :^)
>>
>>145416724
I have literally never played against a good genji, ever
are you one of those retards who die to his deflect?
>>
Mark my words, Reaper is next on the chopping block.

He's secret OP.
>>
>>145416848
winston
>>
>>145416708
>letting your turret get sniped instead of putting it in a cozy little corner
>ever
You're fighting some shit Torbs son.
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HOW DO I HIT LUCIO
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Roadhog is my new favorite #1.
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>50% rocket direct hits out of almost 150
>gold damage with a new record
>not even bronze elims
>>
>>145416528
You can believe that if you wish, but it still doesn't mean it's the truth. She COULD have cyberlimbs, they just haven't shown as that story yet.

>>145416529
Reduce his damage output, make it mandatory to actually hit with the flashbang.
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>>145416832
500 coins is better than legendary for a character you don't use.
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>>145416848

D.Va., Winston, Genji, and for me, Reaper.
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>>145416914
>>145416963
Any decent Widow will either wreck him or run to her team.
She can actually kill him before he kills her if she's not pants on head retarded and glued to scope 24/7.
The only viable counter when you have no better Widowmaker on your team is TWO Winstons.
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>>145416987
you dont
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>>145413903
Snipers by nature are quiet and avoid giving away their position intentionally. It makes perfect sense that she doesn't scream like a retard when she activates her ult. Might as well complain how Zen doesn't make an audible noise when moving while every one else does because it's the same argument. Besides, her ability is used for recon. No reason for her to alert the enemy she's watching them.
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>>145409237

You're a Mei scrublord ain't ya?
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>>145415349
Castle Crashers you nog
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>>145416987
Play Winston or Symmetra.
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>>145417017
Hitting barriers counts as direct hit.
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>>145416987
From the sides/back
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Soldier 76 reporting for premades

Meliorne#1693
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>>145417104
>,gif
Where did you get this shit? The proper video has been posted numerous times, even in the previous thread...
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>>145415717
I don't know how they can top Riot in terms of shitty balance

>>145415578
>>145415815
The role of a Sniper isn't to two shot somebody, the point is to go for headshots to one shot enemies from a distance. She's harder to flank than most snipers cause she has an easy escape, an assault rifle with decent damage, and a landmine that does half an assault characters health over time.

This meta in competitive is literally dependent on which Widow kills the other Widow first. Teams have dedicated Winstons for the sole purpose of shutting her down.

And that's not even going into her ultimate.

Widowmaker is absolute bullshit.

>>145415984
Be the third Mei and mei-k Overwatch great again
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>>145416596
there's no ranked mode so you really should care at least a little
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>>145416884
>tfw was ambivalent to her and didn't like her hair
>slowly grew on me with her fanart, voice, and in-game performance
>want to get snu-snu'd now
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>>145417123
>Genji is a ninja assassin
>RYUJI NO KEN WO KURAAAAAAAAAAAAE
No one would scream out and alert their enemies what they are doing, but they do for game balance, idiot.
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What's the difference between shields, armor and normal health? Besides that shields regenerate?
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>>145417176
>wanting your account to get hacked
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>see LawBreakers trailer

Well thank god there's going to be a good version of Overwatch coming out soon.
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THAT FUCKING CUNT MEI JUST DID 190 DAMAGE TO ME
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>>145416914
>Two Winston's :^)

ftfy m8. Widow is so powerful that the pros have to dedicate two guys to making sure you can't even play her. the minute you don't have 2 winstons is when the other team picks widow and instawins.

balanced as fuck for sure.
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How do I get gud at not spambot?
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>>145396119
>>145414728
one of these people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwSt0zaQYrM
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>>145417096
if she runs to her team, mission successful.

if she decides to try and 1v1 the winston, mission maybe successful anyway regardless of if she wins because winston has kept her from stopping the rest of his team's push while the 1v1 is happening.
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>when you're playing badly and losing patience but still the game rewards you with one of the skins you want
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>>145416832
>Crying about the best drop in the game

Why do retards do this?
It could've been a 200 dupe, a trash legendary for a hero you don't play, a good legendary for a hero you don't play, or a trash legendary for a hero you do play.
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>>145416458
and how will they stop being a Soldier 76 main if they never play anything else?
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>>145416832
>complaining about legendary money

what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>145417123
But junkrat should get his shit immediatley flagged? Trolbjorn? 76? DVA? Whether or not it fits the character her ult is seriously dangerous for the whole enemy team and they should be alerted to it just like when players find out it's high noon.
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>>145416947
>activating target thingy
>AUGH
8 days later
>activating target thingy
>ching ching ching
> ....
> ..........
> pow pow pow pow pow
>Eliminated Ninjafaggot 99

Not anymore
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>>145417263
Find a comfy corner and spam M1
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>>145417231
armor takes 50% or 5 points (whichever is lower) less damage from every instance
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I've... I've fallen in love, /owg/. I've fallen in love with Junkrat.
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>>145411348
It's Aatrox all over again.
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>>145417123
>Realistic

Are you being serious about it in a game where we have talking space monkey in a diving gear inventing time anchoring technology?

Or a guy who turns arrows into magic dragons.

Or a woman who can resurrect the dead.

Or a woman who can literally control time for herself.

Or a man who is literally a ghost who devours the the souls of the dead.
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>>145417357
Trashmouse #1 counter to like everyone.
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>it's a blizzard keeps putting me in shitty teams >one minute before we lose in order to force 50 on me episode
FUCK OFF FBLIZZARD REEEE
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>>145417059
>>145417303
>he doesn't play every single hero
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>>145417413
>complaining about painless losses

get out normal arrrgghhhh
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>>145417293
>running to her team stops her from sniping
sure son.
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>>145417305
they don't. you are supposed to outgrow their MMR.

aim better, git gud, etc.
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>>145417434
>he plays genji
>he plays hanzo
>he plays winston when the enemy widow isn't aimbotting
>he plays poo in loo
>he plays zenyatta
kys my man
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>>145417472
back2reddit
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Power rankings list

Essential Heroes:
>Mcree
>Widowmaker
>Reinhardt
>Mercy
>Lucio

Not essential but better than great
>Winston
>Zarya

Great and effective in most team compositions
>Junkrat (Shrines on choke-point maps and on defense)
>Roadhog
>Soldier 76 (Vanilla ice-cream in all situations)
>Tracer (A good tracer is incredible, a bad tracer is useless)
>Genji (A good genji is incredible, a bad genji is useless)

Situational Heroes
>Bastion (Double Winston on defense)
>Symmetra (Defense first point)
>Reaper (Double Winston/Tank while Attacking)
>Pharah (KOTH W/ no Widowmaker)

Please buff me so i can see play tier
>D.VA (Movement speed buff when shooting)
>Zenyatta (Not 1 shot from Widowmaker)

Kill yourself Tier
>Torbjorn (Skill ceiling too low to worth investing time in, Turrets easily countered, only good for armor packs)
>Hanzo (Strictly worse version of widowmaker at all ranges designed for RNG lottery arrows, if you play hanzo uninstall all video games)
>Mei (为什么你的存在)
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>>145417397

Not even mad I've lost my first two games as him. The area denial and trapping of unsuspecting people is just plain fun, not to mention the satisfaction to chucking a grenade straight to the head.

Not a big fan of the ult though.
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>>145417229
Did you ever watch anime? This shit happens all the time.
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I wanna be Mercy and support our big strong Reindhardt so he rewards me by getting on thFUCKING PAYLOAD YOU RETARD JESUS FUCK COMON YOU HAVE ONE FUCKING JOB.
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>>145417531
>unironic usage of the meme frog in the current year

>>>/reddit/
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>win few games
>currently on third payload attack where i'm put into a game in progress with 1 minute remaining and payload not even at the first point
fuck off, seriously.
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>Mercy gets mad at me for not killing my own counter
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>>145417524
>he doesn't play any of those heroes
kys my man
Also
>not knowing how Street Shitter can out DPS literally everyone
>>145417594
>meme frog
Are you retarded?
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>>145417545
His e shuts down genji and tracer so bad its hilarious, also for his ult if you arent looking for a big multikill POTG sweet shit just use it to kill their mercy, if no mercy to kill a lucio.

It's worth it.
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This forced 50 thing is literally the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Blizzdrones really are retarded.
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>can never get healers in randoms
>decide to invest in the amber skin for Mercy and a victory pose
>2 games in a row someone already instalocked Mercy and insisted on playing her

weird
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>>145417591
>pocketing tanks

lol
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>>145417229

He has to invoke the dragon, son. Have some imagination.
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>people already over level 100
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>>145417413
>>145417472
>>145417531
>>145417594
>>145417632

Frog posters GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>145416582
Has a more perfect picture ever been made
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>>145417510
it sure as fuck stops her from getting effortless headshots from wherever it is she decided to perch before running back to her team. At least make her work for it.
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>>145417573
>nigger Nei
No.
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>53% win rate

is this why overwatch has been suffering
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>>145417257
this also goes for best girl
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>>145415876
Are you implying Hanzo can beat Lucio in a melee battle? You do realize Lucio has a healing aura right? Hanzos only hope in a close range battle is going for headshots to burst Lucio down. Trying to melee him back wouldn't do jack shit, Lucio easily outheals it
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>>145417651
I don't think this is a Blizzdrone thing, I think this is a mobabby thing.

>blub blub public winrate mattersssss

nigga when's the last time you heard someone talk about their TF2 winrate
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>>145417705
There are people over 200 and few reaching 300. That's like 12 hours every day since release.
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>>145417639
Riptire is also good for killing Torb turrets that are near a corner they can't fire down

>all the torb hate in this general
Don't hate the character just because he attracts retards. Hate the retards. A properly played Torb is really useful.
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>>145417357
I love playing junkrat when I'm feeling lazy and don't really want to try too hard.

The amount of damage he shits out is ridiculous
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>>145417357
do you mean you like his gameplay or do you like him in a more sexual manner
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>>145417705
you underestimate how many wealthy NEETs there are in the world.
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>>145417796
>using riptire to kill a turret when you can just spam grenades to kill a turret

man what are you doing anon plz
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>>145417752
Have you never seen a black girl before
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>>145412691
Yes we do desu. Thanks, anon.
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So, I'm kinda wishing this game had subtitles. Didn't the beta have subtitles?

The audio cues are cool and all, but sometimes I'd just rather have subtitles.

It would make widowmaker less OP.
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>>145417539
>Winston
>not essential
>not best Widowmaker killer

>Mei
>Kill yourself tier
>People still getting booty blasted about Mei
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>>145417257
This gif is so retarded/noobish since both widow and mercy are core picks
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>>145417710
Are you autistic?
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>>145417539
show us on the doll where the bad mei touched you anon.
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>Used to only play Junkrat, Lucio and occasionally Rein
>Just started playing mostly Winston with a bit of Mercy and Rein
Holy shit why is Winston so much fucking fun? He just shits on teams that don't know how to deal with him.

>Jumping in to disrupt a nest for long enough for your team to round the corner and jumping back to them to drop a shield and bask in your assists
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QUICK /OWG/ MARIACHI OR EL BLANCO

THIS IS A DEATH OR DEATH SITUATION
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>>145405130
Habit from other games where you usually want to unscope to get a better view of the ground and also most games forcibly making you unscope to reload anyway.

Also faster to unscope, turn to new target 45 degrees off, then scope back instead of just dragging the scope along the screen until you see them.
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>>145417895
>>145417874
What role does Mei even play? Convince me why she shouldnt be in shit tier.

Tell me what Mei will do better than any other hero and I'll change my opinion.

There is a reason anyone without pants on their head doesn't play her.
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>>145417874
>ifunny
30 days in the Temple of Anubis for you.
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>>145417773
It's not really about caring about your winrate, it's the notion that these retards think the game is out to get them and it's the game's fault they're not winning
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>>145417874
>ifunny
Kill yourself
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>>145417962
Blanco
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>>145417962
Mariachi is more elegant, El Blanco is for being obnoxious.
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>>145417892
>>>/r9k/
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>>145417962
El blanco.

Less edgy and looks cooler.
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>>145417962
Blanco is more elegant. Mariachi is obnoxious and dumb
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>>145417962
mariachi desu
just got it from a box a few hours ago
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>>145415901
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>>145417838
I'm a torb not a junkrat, there's not always an arc to hit the turret if the Torb isn't a retard (i.e. 1% of Torb players)

Overall Junkrat is just the best counter to Torb. Fuck Widows and Pharahs, a good Junkrat is what scares me the most.
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>>145418025
I'll take that as a "Yes."
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>>145417980
>Tell me what Mei will do better than any other hero and I'll change my opinion.

Makes both friend and foe mad. No one does that better than Mei.
>>
holy shit

i rode the fuck out of the hype train for this game but i am so burnt out and half my friend list is no longer active already

ded game general inc?
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>>145418001
Yeah, I was just saying it's not really a Blizzard thing, it's also a Riot thing and Valve thing

>millions of average people are playing a game
>I have around a 50% winrate
>that's bullshit, I must be one of the best players in the world
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>>145417980
Area denial, payload denial, defensive sniper, self healer. You play her like backburner Pyro.
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>>145418109
>>145418025
>>145417892
>>145417710
>>>/out/
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>>145418129
give it another month.
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>>145416169

Mouse user on Ps4 here (Wiimote analog grip ripoff in other hand)

Its worth every penny
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>>145417980
hold an objective solo while the rest of your team comes back from death? The only other person who can come close to her ability to do that is lucio.
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>>145417096

No she cant

Her smg will not kill Winston faster than his leap damage + tesla cannon will kill her. Not when he has like 300 hp + armour over her
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>>145415395

>Winston

>difficult

U wot m8?
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>>145412148
I love flashbang kills.

Only 25 damage.
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>>145415901
I'm sure I'll lose the next one.
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>>145415901
People keep posting 60% winrates, and I feel like the worst player.

Will ranked be better? Will it show us our MMR?
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>>145418152
>>145418025
>>145417710
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>>145416127
She's a defense hero, she's meant to lock down lanes.

If we're talking numbers game here,
>all heroes except for Winston, Genji, and Mei (and technically Symmetra) are capable of singlehandedly defending a point from capture from five 200 hp heroes without stepping into the point
>capture point takes 8 seconds to capture uncontested
>10 available sniper shots before reload, each sniper shot consumes 3 of total 30 autofire ammo

Nerf her in damage
>3 body shots instead of 2 on 200 health hero
>3 kills per reload
>shots take 1 second to reach max damage
>reloads take 1.5 seconds
>reload twice, 3 seconds, five seconds to reach max damage 5 times
8 seconds have already passed, Widow failed to defend the point, and that's assuming she has perfect timing and accuracy to shoot on the exact millisecond her gun charge rate reaches 100%.

Nerf her range
>no she's a fucking sniper

Nerf her venom mine
>lose the ability to cover your ass when your ult isn't up
(this is a valid point, since most snipers in modern games have an anti-flank measure built into them, CoD had claymores, TF2 has Razorback)

Nerf her hook
>lose the ability to get to point from spawn as quickly as all other heroes, especially during match start

Nerf her SMG fire rate
>lose every single close range battle against flanking weak Tracers who have 150 hp
>lose incredibly to tanks focusing you

Nerf her SMG damage
>lose ability to clean up characters you've already gotten down to 10 health and deserve to die

The only acceptable nerf is to introduce RNG in her rifle until she's full charged, but then you get Widow mains super pissed, and people that get shot by luck even more pissed.

You have to rework her kit entirely if you want her to be both viable and "balanced" like everyone complaining about her wants.
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>>145416169
>M+KB converter for console

fucking do it. you will forever destroy faggots with your mediocrity.
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>>145418132
The entire forced 50% thing comes from league or dota, I forget exactly but one of the developers mentioned that the matchmaker tries to keep you at a 50% winrate cause you know, that makes fucking sense

A bunch of retards who have literally no understanding of statistics took that to mean that the matchmaker rigs games to artificially lower your winrate.
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>>145417962
Yes
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>>145417786
>>145417705
>>145417828
>>
anyone main symmetra. highly considering it. I love her play style
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which hero is counter pick of Mecree?
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>only have 2 legendaries
>finally see yellow in a box
>open it
>its a duplicate of one of the 2

fuck you too RNG
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>>145417796

That turret has too good a range/rof/aim put all together.
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>>145417705
>people over level 50
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>>145418291
good thing mcnoskill is getting nerfed soon
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>>145418184
Do you destroy everyone? is it really that much of an advantage?
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>>145418327
>But how do you kill that which has no life?
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>>145418345
zarya
>>
>>145418345
Widow
Roadhog
Soldier
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>>145417705
playing with a group gives a retarded amount of xp, 4 games with a group gives the same xp as p5 solo games
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>>145418342
Do it, she's amazing, nothing feels better than 100-0'ing a reinhardt because he's afraid to drop his shield to hammer you down.
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>>145418345
At the moment, none.
You basically need groups of two to even stand a chance against a competent cowboy.

Patch tomorrow though, Tanks should hopefully be able to stand a chance afterwards.
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>>145418154
until it's ded for good? at the rate overwatch is hemorrhaging burnt out players it won't even last that long

why does blizzard make so many games that last for a month, tops. hello sc2 general 2.0
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AVOID MAP OPTION WHEN
I REFUSE TO PLAY HANAMURA, ILLIOS, LIJIANG, ANUBIS.
FUCK OFF WITH THESE SHITSHOWS.
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>>145418359
??
I see more of you calling him useless than complaining about his turret

I will admit seeing a Torb get play of the game while his turret does all the work is fucking annoying and Torb is my most played but honestly if it just showed the turret perspective instead of Torb's I think that would help a lot.
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>>145417197
>The role of a Sniper isn't to two shot somebody, the point is to go for headshots to one shot enemies from a distance

Except this isn't true in real life and in other competitive FPS and is only true of TF2.

Real snipers will go for center-of-mass. CS, CoD Promod, and Battlefield all use 1-hit kill mechanics.
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>>145418316
But it DOES seem to rig it like that. Otherwise there'd be players with winrates like 40% (or even lower) because some people just plain suck.
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>>145418303
>IF YOU NERF HER SHE MIGHT LOSE SOMETIMES!

oh wow man, so sorry. i didn't mean to bring Widow down to the mortal plane with the rest of the hero's.
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mei is only op because half of them are aimbotting
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>>145414728
A Space Station 13 clown.
A support role, 50 health 150 shield. Has squeaky shoes that you can hear from very far away.
Main weapon is a bike horn that does no damage but forces the person he honks to look at him disrupting their aim.

Shift throws down a banana trap that slips up and stuns anyone who walks over it.
E throws a custard pie at them which completely blocks the screen of the player hit.
His ultimate ability is to release the singularity.
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>>145418272
I can't play winston for shit and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

It sucks too because I unboxed his safari legendary and the "natural selection" line and I really like them, but I'm useless with him
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>>145418316
That would only make sense if there were two outcomes which were determined only by random chance, you fucking retard. Take a statistics class.
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>>145418520
I feel like I don't know when to use her alt/charge fire. her primary fire seems to be good enough
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>>145418592
>people who are unironically calling mei OP
>people who are unironically saying mei is a good hero
How bad are you?
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Anyone got any secret spicy tech for Pharah? I feel like I'm doing well.
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>>145418589
If you're talking about balancing, you're looking for an even distribution of 50/50 in all 1v1 battles. Nerfing her in any way tips that to 0/100 in the enemy's favor. Even snipers in TF2 don't lose every single close encounter.

Stop asking for a nerf and ask for a rework.
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>>145418684
uh
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>>145415710

As someone coming from Doom, Invis is annoying but not unstoppable.
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>>145416169

Interscepter. Add me, I'm sick of helping the helpless.

Also Elite controller paddle hover with Pharrah makes her busted. I'm not sure I could do M+KB
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>>145418559
>if it just showed the turret perspective

That aimbot would be hilarious.
>>
>have a -75% EXP penalty for leaving shitty matches before they start/immediately leaving shitty matches I get thrown in

What did Blizzard mean by this?
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>>145396606
Shrike Team much?
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so what counters a reinhardt on a payload? he blocks anything you shoot at his healer, has a widow sniping everything above, has a s76 for twice the heals and just cover fire, and a mccree roaming on the sides doing his usual gay shit
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not playing Hanzo at all but thanks
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>>145418569
You are retarded. There are millions of players in these games. Most of them suck.

>people who suck play with people who suck, they all have around 50% winrate
>average people play average people
>great people play great people
>all of them have around 50% because they're playing against each other

Now where the retardation comes in is when one of the millions of average retards thinks "But I don't suck, I'm good! That means I should have higher than 50% winrate!"

No, if you are better than the shitters you are playing with, after a few games you start playing against better people. If you luck out and win against these better people when your skill can't maintain it in the long term, you will be given the chance to compete against way better people, and you will lose. This is called matchmaking and if it works right everyone should be at around 50%.

>but I'm good and everyone else sucks

No you're not. You are not special out of the millions of people playing. You are exactly where you're supposed to be.
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>>145418756
>Also Elite controller paddle hover with Pharrah makes her busted. I'm not sure I could do M+KB

Hover is bound to M2 and space. You'd be fine.
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>>145418756
Pharah's hover is on right mouse button default so feathering it gives you really good sustain.
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>>145418539
>until it's ded for good?
not many online games truly die anymore. look at fucking SWTOR or Planet Side 2.

/owg/ will probably be here for a while, might even stand for a good couple of years. but like all games it will reach an equilibrium of "core" players.
>>
>>145418786
Hey you know what we need more replys to posts from 4 hours ago.
>>
>Widowmaker on top of the huge door in Anubis B

well I guess that's how you win attack on Anubis since she can spawn trap everyone on defense
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>>145418674
the alt-fire goes straight through reinhardt's shield, so if he's blocking for his team just throw orbs his way, you'll get some damage out. it's also useful against torb turrets if you have a clear line of sight, and just using as suppressive fire in general since the slow-moving orbs will jam up a corridor if you spam uncharged ones. Mostly though you're going to be using her primary fire bug zapper.
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>>145418795

Get behind him and open his angus

Also, first person to make their tag "Creamy Gaper" and get POTG inherits all my internets
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>>145418817
>p2w skin
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>>145418758
I feel like that would irritate people less. At least you'd know what the fuck happened. And the POTG would be acknowledging that the turret did everything.
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>>145418145
>Area denial
Why not pick a hero that is capable of killing people with a Reinhardt push? Also, a Mei wall provides charge for a Mercy who is damaging buffing anyone. Thx 4 the ulti charge.
>Payload Denial
^^^^^
>Defensive sniper
Or you could just pick a Widowmaker and not be useless
>Self Healer
??? this is reaching.

>>145418225
Tracer, Lucio and D.va all do this way better. When she is in shift it doesn't counter as a body on the payload, either.
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>>145418795

Pharah above him, 3-4 direct hits usually does it, less if he looks up like a retard and your team starts firing at his unprotected legs. You can knock him away from the payload with a good concussion bomb and even if he's being a real prick I'll Ult and break the shield, it makes Rein's panic 9/10 times.
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>>145418817
AWOO
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>>145418795
It's not exactly the easiest thing to do, but if you can blink behind him with tracer he melts, and even if you only have enough time for a couple shots you might force him to turn around so your team can shoot him
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>>145418569
No, if people perform badly it matches them into lower rank matches. Eventually everyone will reach 50% if they play long enough because the average winrate of all players is 50%
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>>145418872
sage my dirty cock you cunt. I'll post what I want to.
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>>145419003
>Mercy's ultimate
>mattering

That shit charges in like 20 seconds and she waits until the right time to use it, it's not like she uses it on cooldown. "Oh noooo she got full ulty meter in 18 seconds instead of 20 oh nooooooo we're fucked"
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>>145418795
Get a tracer and pick off the rest of his team as much as you can.

A Reinhardt that's alone is doomed.
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>>145418795
do enough damage to break through his shield. its not impossible and most reinhardts will abandon their position on the payload
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>>145418674
If you're in a situation where your turrets are down in good places but you're unable to engage in short range combat for her LMB, charged Orb spam makes for great suppression.

They move so slowly that most people will instinctively back away from its path rather than try to duck around it. In fact, some people move, and then run right in to it because they assume it's passed or hit a wall because it moves that slowly.

Do be aware that this may not be a good idea if there's a moderately competent Zarya on the enemy team. The charge Orb spam will pretty much assure that she's at SSJ.
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>>145418795
walk into his shield with roadhog and shoot him in the face
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> Dorado Attack
> 2 Torbjorns, 1 Bastion
> Switch to genji
> Take care of one turret, the two others kill you.
> Lose

I hate this fucking meme game.
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>>145419079
A full mei wall gives about 40-45% charge, dude.
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>>145419003
>When she is in shift it doesn't counter as a body on the payload, either.
pretty sure it does unless they patched it between beta and launch.
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>>145418819
>I win so I get to play against better people
Only if it worked for your team too. I wouldn't care about losing at all if all people were equally matched but too often it's apparent that your team shouldn't be in the same mmr bracket.
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>>145419116
Yes please do this if you're on defense.
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Kaplan on patching and why the game hasn't been touched since it launched
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>>145419201
it doesn't.

go test it in live.
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>>145419027
I fucking need a Hanzo edit.
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>>145418819
I don't know what games you play, but I do know for a fact that in World of Tanks (which I play a lot) there's clearly people with winrates around 60%, after thousands of matches, and then there's the shitters, with winrates like 40%.

Sadly Overwatch doesn't give us real statistics or matchmaking. (In WoT it is pretty much totally random, which is why the highs and lows get noticed.)

Hopefully ranked play will solve this, by giving us clear MMR numbers. THEN it would make sense for the winrate to balance around 50%, because you are actively being matched against your own level.
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ROADHOG MAINS REPORT IN

ROADHOG RIDES AGAIN

VIOLENCE IS USUALLY THE ANSWER
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>>145419201
>>145419003
It still does.

When the defending team is getting desperate, they stack D.Vas and Meis to delay the cart and pray that your team has no damage to deal with them.

It's like an attacking team spamming Tracers out of desperation. Except it's indestructible Ice Walls and frozen Meis.
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>>145417980
Make anyone incapable of doing any action for 2 seconds so you can stop moving and get an rmb headshot for free
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>>145418731
>Nerfing her in any way
so body shots down to 149 would make her completely unusable.
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>>145419314
NERF MCREE AND WIDOW ALREADY YOU FUCKING HACK
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>>145418795
Lucio speed boosts behind and pushes him straight onto your team's lap.
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>>145419372
??

Mcree makes anyone incapable of doing anything and dies instantly.

>>145419342
Desperate teams stack D.vas and Tracers, no meis, you're wrong.
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>>145419214
What part of
>No you're not. You are not special out of the millions of people playing. You are exactly where you're supposed to be.
is so hard to drive through your thick skull

This is just the same as every retard in Silver IV in league who says "BUT IM OBVIOUSLY BEETTAR DAN MY TEAEEEAEMATS"

No. You're not. Get over yourself and play the fucking game.

someone post that "what /owg/ thinks is happening, what is actually happening" image
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>>145417962
Mariachi obviously. It's stylish without being "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME"
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>>145418795
Personally, I pick Reaper and roam the sides picking off the McCree and sniper and maybe the Mercy or Reinhardt if they aren't paying attention to me.
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>>145419310
I have killed too many reins because i walk into their shield and they just sit there as I pump them full of scrap
its probably because I play on console
god there's so many bad players
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>>145419426
>Mcree makes anyone incapable of doing anything and dies instantly.

Mei does the exact same thing.
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>>145419314
Don't really have a problem and would rather not have balance changing every single week. Just hoping there's more of a focus on new maps over other new stuff like skins
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>>145418684
Pubs don't watch my ass even though I'll watch theirs against a Mei anytime.
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>>145419438
There's something fucking wrong if I can reliably get gold medals in anything else than objective time with Reinhardt while blocking 20k damage.
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>>145419338
>76% of team damage taken
>still 20-2
Only Roadhog
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>>145419471
Mei has a charge up time and gets countered by Mcree. Every game has 2 mcree currently.

If you're comparing Mei to Mcree you are actually retarded and i hope they ban you from queueing ranked until you get a brain.
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>>145419003
>It's a "No matter what is said, I'm going to counter it" episode
Reduce your sodium intake.
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>playing on Hanamura defense
>enemy Reinhardt keeps charging into point A
>I keep charging him off the side
>he switches to Winston after the third time
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>>145418731
>balance means that every hero has a 50% chance of winning a 1v1 against every other hero
Are widow mains really this delusional?
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>>145419549
I asked people to give me a reason why you should pick mei over anyone else.

Of course it's a counter episode you fucking sped.
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>>145419502
If I had to guess I'd say most patches of note will come with skins like TF2 does
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>>145419503
Your heals can't save them from a freeze + 150 damage headshot anyway.
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>>145419378
She's supposed to be able to one-shot Tracer. The two of them were designed as the first two characters in the game, that significantly pushing things in a more interesting, but definitely tipped-in-Tracer's-favor setting.

She already has fuck-annoying blinks that make her damn near impossible to shoot while scoped.
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>>145419509
Just like all the lolbabs
>MUH CS
>MUH KD
>MUH WON LANE
>MUH DAMAGE
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>>145419315
While an iceblock mei does not advance progress on a point or payload, an iceblock mei still contests the point/payload, keeping the enemy from progressing. So we're kind of both right i guess.
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>>145419525
I am comparing them, because

>Mei has a stun and headshot combo as well
>that has no cooldowns, mind you
>has several other abilities debilitating skills
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>>145419646
Maybe it's because she's not only fighting tracers and she one shots zenyatta making him nigh unplayable while also being able to pretty much double tap everyone
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>>145419629
Probably true. It would be an easy way for them to try and make some cash from buying boxes
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What makes a Zarya player good?

How do I not suck with my tankfu?
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zarya nerf fucking when
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>>145419328
Well sure, casual vs. ranked is a big deal. If you click the "Ranked" button you are saying "I am here to win the objective". That is not necessarily true for unranked, people might not care about the objective, people might just want to play their favorite hero, or are just testing new mouse settings or whatever. There are tons of reasons to want to play a game where stats aren't tracked (even though you can dig them up). Ranked will tell everyone "Okay time to play the objective now" and have more clear stats. Quick play promises you nothing except "Here is a game of Overwatch". You might not even start or end the game you're in, it's easy to leave or join late. People still want to consider these games important enough to track stats though, which they aren't. Wait for ranked.

And yeah, if there's no real matchmaking like WoT then 50% doesn't mean anything, but if the game is trying to put you into a skill bracket then no matter if you're shit or godlike you should have "around" a 50%. 45 and 55 are the same, they're close enough that variables can affect it. If someone had a 80% winrate I would be impressed and ask how they did it.
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>>145419660
How much in denial are you in? The matchmaking is fucked beyond belief and the easiest way to know this is when you get put against stacks while soloq.
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>>145419720
Give Zenyatta 5% armor then, don't nerf Widow's damage so she can't oneshot anyone.

She has a god damn voice over that says "one shot one kill".
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>>145419778
Doing a good thing
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>>145419318
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Holy shit is there anything more stressful than playing Reinhardt? I don't usually pick him but eventually I got tired of losing and man, every fucking time it's a duel between me and the enemy team's Rein. Trying to figure out whether you should charge him or if that'll just leave your team dead behind you, whether you should advance with your team at your back or you shouldn't because he's gonna charge and ult

It really feels like its personal between you two.
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pharah has a crusty vagina
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>>145419835
>She has a god damn voice over that says "one shot one kill".

Which is meant for headshots, bot BAAAAAWDDYYYYSHAAAAWWWTSSSSS
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>>145418453

The accuracy advantage you have over gamepad players is disgusting. Also hardly anybody plays widow
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>>145419893
>holding M2
>stressful

toggle option when D:
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>>145417104
How do I lag switch in order to do this?
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>>145419817
You kids are so cute.

Okay so Blizz admits they fucked up and YOUR ACCOUNT was being unfairly matched with idiots. They apologize to you and put you in the high skill brackets where you belong. You suck shit and lose and in one week you're exactly where you ended up. You have no more excuses.
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>mfw I shut down a high noon and get a PotG for it
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>>145419835
>She just double taps him like everyone else
Good fix widow main
>She has a voice line so she's allowed to be imbalanced
What is wrong with you
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>>145419646
>She's supposed to be able to one-shot Tracer.
and she still could. with a headshot.
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>>145419521
he's the most fun hero desu
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>>145419878
My browser crashed when I tried to save this image
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>>145419758
stick with a team mate to give shield to
don't stay in the open, always have somewhere to duck behind to charge shield/cooldown ability
melt isolated enemies, bombard cheeky fucks trying to keep away from you
launch that ult when you have a reliable damager near you to get the most kills
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>>145419878
I love you.
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>>145419758
1) Learn how to time the shield to actually soak up damage and not waste it
2)learn that half of your HP regens, so play with that in mind and be a little conservative until you get full charge
3)whenever possible, combo your ult with mccree/dva/hanzo or use it to suck your enemy off the map by shooting it off the edge of the map.
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>>145419909
Yes, headshots are more skillful, but that doesn't mean that snipers are meant to be headshots only.
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>>145419675
It is not an instant stun, it is a slow building stun while multiple heroes can interrupt or flat out avoid.

Pharah goes up in air, Zarya puts on shield, Winston puts down shield and dances in and out, Mcree straight up stuns you, Roadhoad hooks you, Tracer blinks away or presses E, Reaper shifts away.

Like there is absolutely no point picking Mei instead of Mcree.
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>>145419631
Which is why I'm shooting her.
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>>145419938
>toggle option when D:
anon...
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>>145411294
Reaper and Bastion Destroy the monkey man.
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>>145418453
>is it really that much of an advantage?
yes.
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>>145419967
The amount you try to push the issue aside makes you sound like Widow main pretending everything is totally fine. Literally everyone experiences this shit regularly.
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>>145419967
Which is why people get gold medals all the fucking time while getting stomped to shit.
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>have one good game
>blizzard's matchmaking puts me in a higher bracket
>lose, because i'm clearly outskilled
>back to the lower bracket
>have one good game
>...

>b-but forced 50 ain't reeeeeaaaalll XD
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>How to know that you'll lose before the match even starts
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>>145419758

Glue yourself to a team member who'll duck in and out of a choke point, shield him and when he ducks back to you/cover you sub out and shield yourself. Rinse repeat.

Shield blocks Roadhog Chain, Mcree Flashbang and blocks and resets Mei freeze ray, use if in need.

Once you have 100 charge abuse the enemy team, you're a god, make them panic.
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>>145419835
>She has a god damn voice over that says "one shot one kill".
So does this gal. But she ain't OP as fuck.
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>>145420123
>Let me stay at a level where I can shit on people but they can't shit on me
>>
gas
all
tracers
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>>145420092
Cute reaper is my favorite. I wish to protect that smile
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that fucking feel when blizzard is out to ruin your 100% win rate
this is like the 12th time I've tried to go undefeated
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>>145417539
>Mei
>为什么你的存在
>wei shen me ni de cun zai
>Why do you exist?
Someone correct me if that translation is wrong.
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>yfw there isn't even a battleborn general anymore

lmao, looks like blizzard won this round
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>>145420094
>literally everyone

No, only the retards who HONESTLY BELIEVE that when they win, it's because they are a skilled and good player, matched up in a fair match with equally skilled opponents, while when they lose it's because their teammates sucked.

No, when you win you beat a bunch of retards. You didn't "outplay" them, you just won the idiot coin flip this game. Next game you will lose the idiot coin flip because there are 12 idiots in every one of your games.

Yes, 12. Not 11. At a certain level you start seeing people who know how to play on both teams. You are obviously not there yet.
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>>145419967
as much as i love this image, someone needs to update it with the enemy teams showing, the top showing the enemy team wearing sponsored gear and team jackets and probably some ridiculous headsets, and the bottom have 12 of the "everyone else is bad" guy
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>>145419778
>i'm mei i'm invincible and going to le freeze you xD
What an idiot.
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>>145412156
I picked Mariachi, because if I was going to use a meme skin, it was going to be the strategically dark one.
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>>145420119
>thinking gold medals means anything

you realize that gold medals are given out on a per-team basis right? even when the entire team is shit SOMEONE still has to get one. Just because you got some doesn't mean you aren't still a shitter.
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>>145420119
The gold medal argument would matter more if they covered both teams, not just a per team thing.

If you're a hotshot with a gold medal for elims/damage while on a losing team meaning that you did better than the enemy's hotshots which is impressive. But it's not. So who cares.
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>>145419626
Calling a character useless just goes to show that you've already made your mind up and nothing anyone says will change anything.
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>>145419967
Bitch if I get gold for damage done as fucking Winston then something is clearly wrong with my team. Same if I get gold for healing as Soldier when there's a Lucio or Mercy around or when I get gold for objective time with 00:15 or so. Or when you shoot an enemy Mercy as Mercy in sheer desperation and get gold for 2 (two) eliminations.
This basically means your team isn't exactly doing much, which means enemy team is vastly superior. Which means something isn't right with the matchmaking.
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>>145417247
WITH THAT FUCKING LONG RANGE SNIPER RIFLE
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>>145419817
C A S U A L
A
S
U
A
L

M O D E
O
D
E

Holy fucking shit why are you people so dense.

Also nice goalposts.
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>Torbjorn presses Q
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>>145420119
medals are literally just a tool for getting more experience, stop treating them like they're achievements in a game that awards assists
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>>145419893
Reinhardts are a territorial creature when they see another that is not of their pack they immediately get defensive.

Doesn't matter if you are a rein main or not when you see another you know you must charge and dismantle his ass while spamming "respect your elders". It is the natural way of the world.
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>>145420119
>gold medals
>guys I did 8000 damage to a Reinhardt shield
>guys look
>look at my medals guys
>guys I picked Roadhog with no support on the team and drank a bunch of gasoline
>guys I got a gold medal for healing guys
>wow you guys suck, you don't have these gold medals which totally mean a lot
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>>145420229
spot on.

>>145420309
not doing much to counter my argument except telling me it's a stupid argument.
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>>145420119
gold medals are your reward for being king of the shitters.
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>>145420257
>anything fun and not super-cereal is a meme now
The fuck?
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>>145420321
>soldier 76 presses Q
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>>145420273
>>145420270
Nope, because it's correct in this case. If you're outperforming your team by far and still get stomped, then it means your team shouldn't be here.
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>>145420314
What kind of monster wouldn't?
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>>145420349
Damage to shields doesn't count.
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>>145420257

>Strategically dark

Honestly you fucked up then because white blends into more backgrounds in this game than black does

Black sticks out on most of the light shiny maps
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>>145419982
nice ad hominem

>>145420000
Tracer's wearing a fuckhuge chronal accelerator on her chest, which in universe, she was concerned about it getting hit.

I'm sick of people constantly saying "lol snipers are supposed to headshot nerf nao"
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>>145420314
will that artist ever learn to do proper faces?
Signs point to no.
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>>145415008
why is tracer 240/120?
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>>145420230
>moba/co-op hybrid
>Gerabox just coming off the release of the terrible borderlands presequel
>releasing around the same time as another more popular online shooter

Gearbox fucked up
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Embrace... Stupidity.
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>>145420414
if your team got stomped, then none of you performed well, regardless of what the medals said.
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>>145420042
There was a lot of incentive for headshots as a means to bypass waiting for charge in TF2. Why even bother having charge as a mechanic if the charge is stupid fast and there's almost no incentive for headshots over bodyshots?
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>>145420365
If I'm a shitter then maybe I should play against shitters, and not get stomped to kingdom fuck because apparently I'm the only one who even tries to counterpick or play for the objective, while entire enemy team does so.
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>Sitting on 1160 gold coz I dunno what to get

Already have Siberian Front, Valkry and Mystery Man legos

What else is good?

Kinda want a D.va skin but shes shit until the buff. Might get a Hanzo wolf skin because I recently turned down my sensitivity and became so much fucking better it changed my mind about the hero entirely
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Where can I get some fresh neckbeard D.Va???
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>>145420437
Gold question
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>>145420496
because she has two pistols and each does 120
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>>145420582
Gotta get Tengen Toppa Bloodhardt.
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>>145420414
>If you're outperforming your team by far and still get stomped, then it means your team shouldn't be here.

its average team skill vs average team skill. you are weighted more heavily than your teammates bringing your teams average close to the other team. unfortunately for you the other team has their skill spread evenly across their players which in a team based game allows them to dumpster on your bads to the point where you can't carry them.

look man, the 50% thing is just how the math works out.
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>>145420313
>THIS ONE GAME THIS ONE TIME THIS ONE THING HAPPENED
>THIS IS PROOF (PROOF!) PROVING PROOF THAT MATCHMAKING IS RIGGED SPECIFICALLY AGAINST ME AND ONLY ME AND I DESERVE TO BE A PRO

All these fucking lolbabs who spent the last 2 weeks shitposting that Overwatch wasn't going to have any of the problems in league

They fail to realize they ARE the source of the problem
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>>145420483
Because the only person who thinks a sniper should have a 1 sec charge and a 150 bodyshot and wall hacks must either play that character, or have negative self awareness.
You know why tf2 sniper wasn't broken?
He doesn't have a poison mine to watch for flanks
He doesn't have a grappling hook to avoid flanks from most characters in the game
He doesn't have a near 50% up time wall hack that she can use to collect kills and doesn't go away on death
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>>145420556
One player cannot carry a team you mongoloid. Two have a hard time in most cases.
And this happens consistently, because the matchmaking averages the hidden MMR of players team-wide, so it's basically a coin toss - whichever team gets people with MMR's closer to each other wins.
It's a bullshit broken system and frustrating as fuck.
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I can't decide if pharah is good at killing widows or not.
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>>145420640
that doesnt sound right
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>>145414637
....no it's not? Widow has 200 HP, fully charged bodyshot is 150.
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>>145420495
I have more that you might like maybe.
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>>145420483
D.va's "head" is in the middle of her hitbox, your argument is invalid.

if you wanted to get into lore bullshit and step outside pretty standard FPS game mechanics, you can take that trip by yourself.
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>>145420776
Pharah isn't good for killing almost anyone. She's only good for displacing people and splitting groups, like Winston's ult.
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>>145420713
He is also a squishy whereas Widow has 200 hp despite being away from a lot of the action because sniper duels aren't supposed to be decided quickly or something.
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>>145420776
Skilled Widow vs Shit Pharah = Widow wins
Shit Widow vs Skilled Pharah = Pharah wins
Skilled Widow vs equally Skilled Pharah = Widow wins
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>>145420712
This is proof that matchmaking is absolutely fucked you imbecile. Because most of the time you either stomp or get stomped.
There's always someone on the badly losing team who actually tries and performs great while the rest of his team is fucking useless. It can be you, it can be some other poor sod.
It's just how the MMR is averaged, so decent players are forced to try and carry shit teams.
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>>145420349
If a Roadhog has gold healing instead of a Lucio or Mercy, then thats a really bad sign.
Not saying that was the situation you presented, quite the opposite, just putting that out there.
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>>145420631
where'd her legs go?
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>>145420707
Don't even try to explain statistics to these force 50% memers, I don't think they've ever heard of a Standard Deviation

I'm waiting for one of them to argue that the average winrate of all players combined isn't going to be 50%
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>>145420564
Maybe because Sniper is literally the only character that benefitted from headshots in TF2. Everyone else doesn't do instant-death headshots, not even a Spy with an Ambassador.

The headshots in Overwatch are a constant crit (no random crits here), and are given to every player except Zarya and Winston. They're incentives for the other players who are already unloading several bullets into players bodies.

The incentive itself already loses some of its power in a game with infinite ammo.
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>>145420701

I like Reinhardt but I dunno if I play him enough to put the money into a skin for him. Maybe an epic but not a legendary

What are the odds of blizz releasing new skins with the competitive update?
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>>145420949
With this update? None. Wait another 2-3 months for another batch when we get a new hero.
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>>145420882
>weak point can't possibly be the dome of the pilot in the glass shield
>it has to be some flashy thing under her back or something
people are unironically this bad
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>>145420882
>D.va's "head" is in the middle of her hitbox, your argument is invalid.
That's incredibly reaching, and also reinforces my point more than disproves it.
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>>145420909
>pubbie games are usually stomps
HOLY SHIT MAN, THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED IN THIS HISTORY OF GAMING

NEVER BEFORE IN THE HISTORY OF MULTIPLAYER GAMES

Like I actually think you might be retarded
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>>145419459
>Tfw play an aggressive Rein on console
>Tfw they have no idea what to do
>Mfw get PoTG for killing three to four enemies without ult
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>>145420934
>i didn't read the post i'm replying to or the previous ones
it's not about forced fiddy meme you absolute fucking retard, it's about the matchmaking being shit.
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>>145420042
But I liked snipers being able to quickscope each other in TF2.

No waiting for bodyshots, and the winner of the quickscope fight gets to earn points for a few more seconds if they're not already getting reamed by a scout or something. This is why the Darwin Danger Shield is broken and deserves its ban in >comp.

Widowmaker doesn't give a shit and can just go for two rapid-fire bodyshots even if they miss a headshot. And a WIdowmaker with low charge who was shooting at enemies can't immediately react-kill the enemy Widowmaker with low charge either because they have to wait a few crucial moments for that 0% charge to build up for a headshot kill.
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Just picked up the game tonight. Been playing Mercy exclusively since I played medic in TF2 and the mechanics seemed similar. Doing great so far, love the hero and don't feel a need to play anything else.

I was hesitant to pick this game up desu.
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>>145420270
Whether having a Gold Medal or not is actually valid for how shit your team for certain characters.
A Winston for example shouldn't have Gold damage or a Mercy shouldn't have Gold Elims.
But in an overall sense I agree, Gold medals are nothing to cry out about against your team for alot of cases, especially for example if a Reaper has Gold at 6 elims.
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>>145420483
I just realized its not the pro widows that don't want her nerfed, its the hamfisted retards who have never successfully been able to play sniper before that don't want their bodyshot queen taken away from them
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>>145414272

It does

Widow's helmet is lowered for the duration

>>145421018

It makes sense from a lore perspective but its also one of the things that makes D.va so weak. Its incredibly easy to headshot her compared to the rest of the cast

>>145421005

Im inclined to agree but I might just hang on to my money juuuuuust in case.

Would be nice to grab something flashy right outta the gate
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>reinhardts who feel like they're leading the team when they slowly walk in by themselves with shield up doing absolutely nothing
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>>145421038
HOLY SHIT THAT MEANS THE MATCHMAKING DOESN'T WORK WORTH SHIT

Are your parents related by any chance?
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>>145421097
>Widowmaker doesn't give a shit and can just go for two rapid-fire bodyshots even if they miss a headshot.

How is this different from any autosniper in CoD, CS, Battlefield, or even Halo?
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>>145420556
The game averages your MMR ratings so you could be rated 4k while rest of your team would be 1k or even less while enemy team would have steady 2k to create "average mmr is balanced for both teams, this must be totally ok"

If you wanted to make skill based matchmaking then ALL players in the match has to be roughly around the same skill level, not averaged across the board.

People are complaining about this shit because ranked isn't here while quick play uses ranked matchmaking and failing horribly at it.
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>>145418184
Since the topic is out there anyone know decent mouse and keyboard converters for consoles?
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>>145421050
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>>145421059
Pub matchmaking is always shit.

I'm saying where you said
>look man, the 50% thing is just how the math works out.
These people literally don't comprehend how that works. Because of that, they'll constantly believe Blizzard is out to get them and not that pub matchmaking in a fairly new game is just wonky and inconsistent.
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>>145421151
Maybe it's the less the location and more the size of the hitbox? I know it's a pipe dream that they'd have smaller more precise hitboxes in this game though.
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>>145421034
yeah, well, you completely ignored my point about
>ANY changes make widow irrelevant. must rework

and you know that shit is patently false. how bout we nerf her grapple by 0.000001 seconds. guess she's unplayable right?

buffs/nerfs can be incremental and aren't this binary thing that render a character useless. you are shouting about the sky falling.
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Lately my games have gone like this
>give 110%
>hit every shot
>Wipe team with my alts 9/10 times
>dodge every death blow
>match is down to the wire barely scrape by with a win maybe

On the other hand
>make even 1 mistake in 10-15 minutes
>get 100-0 never even touch the point
I don't understand. I'm not even that good. But if I don't pull 2 peoples weight myself it's a guaranteed loss.

I ended my last match playing McClick out of desperation with all gold,including healing, 47 elims, just to stop the payload at a mm before the end.
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>>145421247
I have never played anything but quick play pub matches.
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>>145421247
Except the pub matchmaking is using the same system that will be implemented in ranked.
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My head canon is that D.va is a diaperslut. I even bet the "D" in D.va stands for "diaper girl".
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>>145421184
I never played the other games, I wouldn't know, but don't see how they're relevant. I only know that pre-1.6 CS awps could kill you with bodyshots which probably goes back my quickscoping snipers hypothetical at worst.
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>>145421290
half the time i feel like i do nothing and still win
get good
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>>145421323
My headcanon is that I didn't read this post.
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>>145421104
Mercy is like if they fixed all the unfun parts about playing medic
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>>145421290
There's no way to heal as McCree and med packs don't count towards it so either you switched or are lying for anonymous attention.
Regardless git gud.
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>>145421396
What level? Not shit talking just curious. I'm currently 77 and I feel like I haven't been able to enjoy a match since like 30.
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>>145421131
I've been playing sniper in literally every game since UT. Widow's by far is the most fun and the least problematic in games where people know what the fuck they're doing.

The bigger problem here is that people are playing this team based shooter with objectives as a fucking TDM game, that literally run around instead of properly working together.
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>>145421323
Pick up your head canon and blow your worthless fucking brains out.
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>>145421290
>try my best, push myself to the limit, turn around few teamfights
>lose
>stop giving a fuck, pick tracer/gaijin/junkrat, run around picking off squishies or toss pills without even aiming
>win
i don't even.
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>>145421323
you're the kinda guy i see in my games who is level 185 and only plays d.va

win rate 22% because she sucks.
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>>145421453
Started as Lucio, played McCree out of desperation. We also had a mercy the entire match. I thought maybe you could put 2 and 2 together when it came to me switching. I was wrong.
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>don't even care if I win
>just want more loot boxes to dress up my retarded little digital dolls
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>>145421485
I'm level 66 and it's been two days since I had a fun game. Every single one is a stomp, either my team breaks the enemy team or the opposite happens. Sometimes there's cheese at the final point, but it doesn't amount to much.
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>>145421038
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>>145421159
>matchmaker prioritizes speed over skill balance in a queue that is supposed to prioritize speed over skill balance
>matchmaker doesnt work worth shit
>not sure if you even understood what my post mean
Holy fuck you are dense
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>>145421523
>>145421616
what the fuck is wrong with you guys?
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>>145421323
You know, I can understand wanting to be in diapers and babied by a hot chick from a twisted perspective of wanting to be cared for and all that shit but I can't really wrap my head around those who want to diaper others or at least those that drop the cutesy caring angle and says shit like "diaperslut". There is nothing sexy or gratifying about cleaning up someone else's shit. I mean you can say you're humiliating them or something all you want but in the end you're the one cleaning up a grown ass man or woman after they piss and/or shit themselves.
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>>145421271
>0.000001 seconds
>completely undetectable to players, who already have 3 ms of lag from their mouse/keyboard to their screen
>percentage smaller than the refresh rate of even overclocked 144 Hz monitors

Exaggerate harder, please. Nerfs are always gamebreaking to characters, and incremental nerfs always end in characters becoming completely unusable.
League and Dota are already testimonials to the latter.
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>>145421652
And then there's the part where the exact same system will be in ranked.
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>>145421247
That won't make much of a difference. If you seen any game with a limited player pool, wonky results are inevitable.

You want a quick match? There has to be a price... and sometimes it's you VS a team of slightly bad players with teammates being pants-on-head retarded.

It's all done as total MMR, even though that's a horrendous way of quantifying a group's ability to succeed. If you're the highest ranked player you're expected to carry. If you're not, you're still expected to carry.

You have ZERO control of the pubbies you get. The next thing you can do is try to improve on your opponents.
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>>145421018
>She slows down to a crawl while firing so enemies can backpedal out of her range while hitting her Roadhog sized critbox
>omg u ppl so bad kys
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>get invite to group from some random person added randomly
>some other guy in group gives me non stop shit for no reason. neither of us was doing particularly better than the other, there was simply no reason for him to be such an ass
>whatever. leave and set him to avoid
>two games later there he is

come on blizzard.
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>>145421378
All of those games are just like CS (also, 1.6 allowed bodyshots to deal 100% damage, they just had locational damage on limb extremities). They all have rapid-fire autosnipers that can twoshot kill in less than a second.

Widow being able to twoshot players is nothing new.
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>>145421323
Choke in bleach.
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>>145420314
Like a proper man should
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>>145421306
But the numbers for how it gets tuned are adjusted.

Instead of saying "ok close enough" and making a match, the system can be set to only make teams within certain standard deviations of each other, and to only allow matches where the estimate chance to win differs by 1% instead of 5%.

The matchmaker is tuned to prioritize fast matchmaking. It isn't tuned to prioritize balanced, competitive matchmaking, because this is not the competitive queue.

Normals in League are almost always a bad matchup, but Ranked games are usually fairly even. Unsurprisingly, normals match 2 to 4 times faster than Ranked. However, it is THE SAME MATCHMAKING SYSTEM doing BOTH QUEUES with DIFFERENT SETTINGS

I swear you fucks have no idea how statistics or software works in the slightest.
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Which one's the better intro, charge or hammer down?
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>armor reduces damage by half, but not my more than five per hit

what
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>>145421247
Blizzard isn't out to get me, they're out to get everyone with their shitty matchmaking. Have any of you played a single soloq in your entire time? They had like a year of closed beta to figure this shit out and they still didn't do a good not even acceptable level of job of it.
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>>145421323
The D in D.va stands for Dorito
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>>145421903
More stretching required
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>>145421269

Its definitely the location

The difficulty of going for headshots on other characters is aiming away from the base of the model, the part that you'd normally try to hit. You aim up and over it, which risks missing

Especially for weapons with spread. The smaller target that you have to aim away from the core of the model to hit is just risky.

With D.va you barely have to shift your aim at all, you just fire at the center of her hitbox

You hit it: Damage bonus.
You miss it: Its fine, regular damage
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>>145421903
Charge if you have a no-helmet skin, Hammer Down otherwise.
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>>145421903
I like hammer down if you've got blood/blackhardt
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>>145421884
I like how you're expecting them to even try after the shitshow that was HotS.
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Why is Gibraltar so fucking cancerous to attack
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>>145421151
>Widow's helmet is lowered for the duration

Like anyone is going to see that when she is lining up a headshot with her wallhacks.
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>>145421974
I've played solo queue and it felt like a casual pub mode in any other game

The problem is when you care about your pub stats.

Besides, it doesn't matter if the matchmaker in ranked is 50 times better, you're still going to bitch and moan because that's all you lolbabs know how to do, cry.
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>>145421723
>Exaggerate harder
dude you are literally the one who used the extremely hyperbolic phrase.

>Nerfing her in any way tips that to 0/100 in the enemy's favor.

don't talk to me about exaggerating. lol you can fuck off now.
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>>145419521
You fed a lot of enemy ults.
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>>145422149
Gibraltar is one of the few fairly balanced maps, actually. Even the warehouse part.
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>>145421970

Basically:

>Attacks that do lots of damage in one hit: Good against armour

>Attacks that pepper enemies down with lots of little hits (Tracer guns, winston tesla cannon, mei's ice cannon etc.) bad against armour
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>tfw you have 2 beautiful skins for a hero you are ass at

I don't do pharah the justice she deserves
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>>145421884
>THE SAME MATCHMAKING SYSTEM
>DIFFERENT SETTINGS
So which one is it? Matchmaking is based on algorithms. An algorithm with "different settings" is just another algorithm on its own.

And we still need clear numbers and stats, not this "forced 50" shit.
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>>145421515
Widow is too strong.
She has a fast charging 150 damage hitscan rifle.
An incredibly useful ult.
A generous amount of health.
A grappling hook for whem she needs to bug out
A pretty damn decent smg
All in a game where people move pretty damn slow.
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>>145421635
i'm level 93 and for me it's been about 50% one-sided stomps, 40% relatively even matches and 10% HOLY FUCKING SHIT I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW CLOSE THAT GAME TURNED OUT TO BE.
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>>145417539
Fixed the list

Power rankings list

Essential Heroes/S TIER:
>Mcree
>Widowmaker
>Reinhardt
>Mercy
>Lucio
>Winston

Not essential but better than great/A+ Tier
>Zarya

Great and effective in most team compositions/ A TIER
>Junkrat (Shrines on choke-point maps and on defense)
>Roadhog
>Soldier 76 (Vanilla ice-cream in all situations)
>Tracer (A good tracer is incredible, a bad tracer is useless)
>Genji (A good genji is incredible, a bad genji is useless)

Situational Heroes/ B TIER
>Bastion (Double Winston on defense)
>Symmetra (Defense first point)
>Reaper (Double Winston/Tank while Attacking)
>Pharah (KOTH W/ no Widowmaker)
>Torbjorn (Good on some maps with first point being KoTH -> First point Numbani/Kings Row/Hollywood)

Please buff me so i can see play tier/ C TIER
>D.VA (Movement speed buff when shooting)
>Zenyatta (Not 1 shot from Widowmaker)
>Mei (Her stun is a shit version of Mcree stun, if Mcree gets nerfed, Mei potentially might see more play. Walls shouldn't give Mercy ulti Charge, shift heal needs to be faster)

Kill yourself Tier
>Hanzo (Strictly worse version of widowmaker at all ranges designed for RNG lottery arrows, if you play hanzo uninstall all video games)
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>>145422149
It's one of the most attack-sided maps for an Attack team with coordination. The problem is

>coordination in pubs
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>>145422348
I have 3 of reaper's legendaries and I don't even play reaper
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>>145422162

Its almost as if an ability that doesnt directly affect the enemies in any way and exists only to get give your team more information is supposed to be sneaky

If Widow's ult was loud and everyone know then you'd just see people wait behind cover/move under Reinhardt's shield for the duration
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>>145422351
The matchmaking system is an engine that finds matches for players. The algorithm determines what it prioritizes in finding those matches.

This is Blizzard so I'll admit they could just fuck off and not do it, but in theory the ranked queue is going to have a slightly adjusted algorithm running on the same engine.

It doesn't matter though because you're going to find something to cry about regardless.
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>>145422369
>pretty damn decent smg

With no fall off either. Seriously what the fug.
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>>145422435
Please put Windowlicker in Situational.

She is garbage on KOTH, notably Illios.
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>>145421825
Avoid player does nothing to stop them from appearing on enemy teams, only on yours.
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Whom do you prefer, Mercy or Lucio?
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>People don't think Mei is OP
Mei is bae. I fucking lover her.

It's so easy to kill everything not named Zarya, Winston, or Roadhog.
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>>145422467
>Defending Gibraltar against a coordinated group
Holy fuck my ass was sore.
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>>145422578
Mei's gameplay is a shitty mcree, she can't kill the things mcree can kill and mcree kills the things she can kill faster
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>>145422565
Lucio. Playing Mercy in quick play just seems like an exercise in futility
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>>145422435

Its so dumb how good symmetra is for defending the first point but how bad she is for defending the second.

She needs to be able to generate ult charge while her first teleporter is up again
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I leave a game if the enemy team has an OP-tryhard Widowmaker.

I don't care if it'll give me a penalty.

I will not record a loss just because some meme-clicked can 1-shot the majority of people the very second they turn a corner.

This shit has got to stop.
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>>145422565
Mercy.
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>>145422578
Pharah shits on mei
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>>145422565
Everytime I try to pick mercy the enemy changes to 3 hot monkey dicks

So lucio
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>>145422487
You mean just like every other ult in the game? Why is she getting a free pass?
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>>145422565
In theory Lucio but in practice Mercy since I'm not a groupfag so people are often too retarded to check if there's a Mercy and kill her first in general and especially before ultspamming.
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>>145422565
I feel like I have more of an impact as Mercy, but I enjoy Lucio's movement, even if you're stuck on heal mode most of the time and your gun is a peashooter
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>>145419758
is the allied reaper/pharah/genji obviously about to do something stupid and run into 5 people and try to ult? yeah target them.


Also stand in an enemy D.va/Junkrat ult and flex
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>>145422528
I think Widow is so strong on the other maps she needs to stay at Essential.
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>>145422528
A good Widow fucking annihilates the enemy team if they don't have a Widow or a Widow counter on Ilios Ruins. Otherwise she's not a KotH pick, but being practically always useful in decent hands on every other map is not 'situational'.
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>>145422565
Lucio is the pick for pub games, though Mercy is good on attack/defense.
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>>145422528

Not in the hands of pro widow players
The gun charges so fast, if she has a sightline technically she can kill 80% of the cast with one shot. Meaning she's always useful just incredibly high skill ceiling

>>145422729

Every other ult directly influences combat. Her's does not.

Activating it in the middle of a fight is probably the least impactful ultimate in the game.

Its good for skirmishes and picking people off. Not for full blown teamfights
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>>145422717
Pharrah is the hardest one not on that list, but it's still doable.

Literally everyone else melts to a good Mei, though.
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new thread
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>It's a "The entire enemy team picked people who can throw you into the pit on illos" game
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>>145422705
Wait, you mean leaving doesn't count as a loss for you?
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Do you think it's ever an acceptable move to LET the enemy take a point? I occasionally see teams letting attacks take the payload on Gibraltar to the first point, without really contesting. Same happens occasionally with Hanamura, where they don't seem to defend the bell much.

Or is it just shitters? I'm always trying my hardest at every point.
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>>145422979
some things are easier to defend than others
maybe the dont /let/ them so much as it was an inevitability
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>>145422972
No. It shouldn't
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>>145422919
>in the hands of pro widow players

What classifies as a pro widow player? Why does every keep parroting this fucking sentence?

I've literally never been in a game where Widow is dominating my team, yet I always wreck shit on enemy teams as Widows.
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>>145422705
>not just switching to winston and repeatedly diving her until she leaves or switches
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>>145422380
I can handle somewhat close losses. I can learn from those. Getting steamrolled teaches you nothing.

I wish there was a way to save matches and see what the enemy team members did. Like spectate them. That way I could see what they did that worked so well.
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>>145422979
If the first point on hanamura is nearing a cap I will abandon it and set up on the second since it's so easy to defend
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>>145422968
>it's a "6 Roadhogs on Ilios Well followed by 6 Junkrats on Ilios Ruins" game
>you're on that team
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>>145422979

it's better to set up defenses on point be then trickling into point A yes
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>>145422979
Gibraltar second point is much easier to defend and not trying to fight on the first point needlessly is to prevent attackers from getting ults.
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>>145422979
I say only if the point is more than half taken and your team is just too fucking scattered to mount a decent counter push in time.
Actually falling back from a broken position and suring up on the next is a viable strategy but giving up the first point without a fight means your playing with shits
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>>145422717
Not really. Pharah needs 3 rocket direct hits to kill the 250 HP Mei and Mei can freeze Pharah easily by the time the second shot fires. If we're talking at range, there's also ice walls and the free invuln+heal, and Mei's own 75 damage alt-fire.

1v1, it's going to be a matter of who hits who first, not that Pharah shits on Mei.
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>>145422979
Of course it is. If you're at 90% and the team is about to cap it at 30%, it's better to retreat and regroup rather than go in 1v5 and die and maybe buy one second so your team starts feeding in one at a time.

The more I play the more often I'm finding it acceptable to go on suicide missions where I KNOW I am going to die, as well.

>playing a utility character (not an important part of our frontline)
>Mercy with 10 health
>Cowboy man standing beside her
>I mean fuck it
>dive her and punch her in the face
>let cowboy man do his thing
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>>145422979
in most maps the second point is much easier to defend, so it makes sense to abandon the first if the attacking team is too strong to set up defenses on the second
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>>145422380
that 10% feels so good when it happens
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>>145423187
youre so fucking wrong. Mei gets shit on by Pharah.
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>>145423072

Maybe you should watch good players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIEY9-mPn4
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>>145422968
>falling into the pit ever
>letting people throw you into the pit

>>145423120
>pick Reaper
>stomp the aussie teams
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NEW THREAD
>>145423321
>>145423321
NEW THREAD
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>>145423256
Butthurt Pharrah player.

Did you catch an icicle to your temple?
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new thread where
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>>145423267
How does someone even react that fast?
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>>145423378
Right here, anon
>>145423364
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>>145423267
I'm not that good on the close range quickscoping but I can totally do that on objectives from mid range... does that make be better than other Widow mains?

Also, two problems.

One, I've seen this video about a dozen times, and she's being pocket Mercy'd with damage boost. Two, no one in /owg/ is at a high enough MMR that this will ever happen to them. Why the fuck are people sperging out if it doesn't affect them?
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>>145423478
The powers of being Asian.
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>>145423256
Direct hits do 120 damage.

Mei has 250 HP.

250 / 120 is greater than 2. Thus, you need 3 direct hits.
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>>145422919
>Wall hacks let team see exactly when someone is about to dip out of cover
>Not directly impacting fights
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>>145423478
Gremlin powers
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>Soldier 76: (annoyed) So you think you can do my job?

>Winston: Well somebody has to

Think he's bitter about being replaced by a literal ape?
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>>145422979
Hanamura is a nightmare to get back after you die and they're on the point. It's better to set up your defenses so that you have a chance against their inevitable 6 man ult.
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>>145423267
The Jolly fat guy is having so much fun.
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>>145423538
>and she's being pocket Mercy'd with damage boost
She's also headshotting them at full power. Irrelevant argument.
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>>145421442
I agree, thats a good way of looking at it.
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>>145422968
>tfw I get a quintuple kill on a Nepal map with Pharah and then another one with Barrage later on in the same map
>tfw a goddamn Genji stole my POTG with a team kill

I was mad but impressed.
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>>145422348
2 torbjorn and 2 d.va
I think D.va has the best legendaries in the game too
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>>145423267
This is the kind of shit this game DOESN'T NEED.

You're supposed to be able to counter everything, but this Widow is obviously countered by nothing because she can quickscope everyone so quickly. Quickscoping should NOT be in this game.

If you need to quickscope, fuck off back to CoD.
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