/twg/ - Total War General

How do you make a gobbo-only campaign ? Can you change your LL to a gob with a mod ?

*insults your favourite total war game*

I bet you can't even talk to girls haha.

>>144824906
What's the in-world reason for norscans being like twice the size of normal humans? Are they some kind of sub-race? Does Chaos energies being around you your whole like make you huge?

>>144825056
Everyone who likes that total war ruined /twg/

>>144825031
just replace your LL first turn

>>144825056
haha

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Opinions on my cat?

>>144825194
How do you do that ?

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>>144824906
Rollan!

>>144825282
open up your commanders details menu and click the little boot on the bottom right

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>144824906
>6'0 vs 5'11

>>144825031
I used http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=692490077&searchtext= and picked crooked moon, starts you with a gobbo lord and night goblins.

>>144825408
fred durstin

>>144825264
You're a gay faggot that should kill xirself

>>144825408
We need some more challenges similar to gobbos only. Anyone have ideas?

>>144825463
man gobbo only campaign must be brutal
the fanatics do okay in combat but the rest is pretty trash

>all of these stupid quotes about Bretonnian knights

Bretonnians were clearly supposed to be in the game on release but because CA fucked up their planning they have to release them as a freeLC

Amusingly that just makes them look better in the eyes of the average person

>>144825624
*adjusts trilby* but we're no "average person"...

In all seriousness though, I'm reasonably upset that they released payed DLC along with the game on release.

>>144825624
Nah man, blame sega rushing the game if anything.

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I married my vampire waifu!

>>144825624
I hope we'll also get dismount button with them

>>144825740
I will always remember my freshman year of college because my RA owned a fedora and he legitimately thought it was cool

He was also one of those dicks who goes around looking for students who might be breaking some minor rule

>>144825938
there better be some qt elves when they come out

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>>144826083
They will never be as qt as my vampire waifu.

>>144826157
i wouldn't be so sure. they might not have man-faces.

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>>144826157
I like the ones with veils more 2bh

>>144825264
Cats are shit animals.

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>>144826205
Elves only got ugly faces.

>>144826367
Your waifu is very nice.

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>not playing on Ultra unit-size

Does anyone have any experience with using the faction unlocker mod to play as minor factions in a coop campaign? Does it work okay? Is it going to mess with my current singleplayer campaign saves any?

>>144826635
It works perfectly fine in coop, done it quite a bit. I've never had it cause a problem with my singleplayer but to be safe uncheck it on the mod manager when loading a campaign that doesn't use it.

>>144826795
That's what I needed to hear. Thanks, anon

>>144825604
>gobbos only
>no monsters
>no tank/gryphons
>purge the french as empire

>>144825604
Norsca Invasion run, use only Marauder units etc.

>>144827095
>Just Auto Resolve my campaign senpai

>>144825162
>Does Chaos energies being around you your whole like make you huge?
This

>>144827370
GOTTA EAT BIG TO GET BIG C'MON

4 SCOOPS OF KHORNE A DAY

>>144825264
pretty sweet lookin/10

>>144825264

Filch's cat/10

Must suck being a squib.

>>144825162
Basically how our world's Northmen had a general height advantage, taken to the extreme because it's a fantasy world and everything must be taken to its extreme.

>>144828454
Are you suggesting that the reason actual scandinavians are taller on average is because of a less extreme form of chaos corruption?

>>144828715
You got it, buddy

Mousillon is fun and I like the aesthetic mod

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why's this still running whenever I quit the game?

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>>144828715
...yep.

>>144828332
>Harry Potter: Total War

It would be shit

Does anyone know how the Kraka Drak mod plays? How buggy is it? Also how hard is it fending off Surtha Ek and Felman Ingersson from turn 1?

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Let's try this again: What's wrong with my deployment here?

>>144829340
unless my eyes deceive me and that's actually a sharp slope then those cannons can't fire

>>144829340
Your infantry are too bunched up, spread them out a bit or you'll get the shit flanked out of you. Move your cannons back and make sure your cavalry stop anyone from going around to take them out. Where they are now, they'll have a hard time firing without shooting a cannon straight up some poor crossbowman's asshole.

>>144829340
I see nothing really wrong, but I'd move the swords in the middle up next to each other where the front one is. I get what you're trying to do to keep it clear for the gunners, but everything will end up blobbing infront of them anyway.

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>>144825264
9/10

>>144829340
>>144826535

>>144829340
Make a line with infantry
Put gunners and crossbows to sides
Put cannons forward
Charge when enemy gets close to cannons or put infantry on both sides in advance
Flank blob with ranged and cavalry
Protect ranged with halberds

>>144829340
I'd move the gunners a bit further back so that they don't accidentally get engaged as enemy units start to overlap around your infantry.

Dwarfs are much better at the pike and shot style of hand gun deployment due to their infantry being much much tougher and with higher moral less prone to flanking issues. but empire can do it too, but they definitely need support.

DARKNESS COMES

and so do i

>>144831080
BY THE HAMMER, HAMMER THEM!

God damn Ungrim's voice actor is fucking garbage. In fact, the majority of them are terrible and don't fit their roles. I wonder how hard it would be to replace the voice overs with someone else saying the exact same thing.

>>144825264
Would

>>144831243
Bye Groongeese bee-ard

The flying bats make enemy armies act weird

They run around like they want to engage the bats, but then the AI realizes it can't actually hit them

>playing orcs
>forget about Bjornlings
>all my armies are up north

fuck fuck fuck fuck

>>144831608
>not having walls

lmao

>>144831243
>In fact, the majority of them are terrible and don't fit their roles
how do you mean

>>144831243
Cant fault thorgrims VA though. Well bearded.

>>144831608
They sieged me for 15 turns and assaulted 3 times before Azhag showed up to finish of the stragglers in my game

>>144825264
Milo > Ben Shapiro

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>>144831874
Whaaaaaat

>>144831243
Agreed, at least from what I heard from Azhag. Sounded like some fat geezer they got off the local pub. An orc voice should not remind you of a ummie.

God fucking damnit, I can't stop saying it.
Is there any way to get rid of a specific voice line? I don't want to mute the game because I love the sound track. I'm playing VC and every time I hear "Darkness comes" I ALWAYS say "and so do i" under my breath. I can't help it, and I'm worried someones going to hear me whispering "and so do i" over and over again, and I can't very well explain it to them. I swear every character, regardless of necromancer or vampire lord says "Darkness comes" at least twice a turn, and it's really putting me on edge.

>>144832530
Darkness comes...

>>144832596
I'm being serious. I can't seem to find the sound files they use for voice lines, so I was hoping someone could help me get rid of that specific line. It wouldn't feel right if everybody was mute, I just want that line gone.

>>144832718
Darkness comes...

>>144832718
have you considered not being autistic instead

>>144832718
kill them
raise them

>>144832718
DARKNESS COMES

and so do i

>>144832946
Stick them in a stew

>>144825408
rolling

>>144832718
just keep doing it. Who cares

>>144825938
She looks kind of grumpy, do you think that she is nice and kind hearted?

>>144832816
And so do U

>>144833252
Of course she is! Unless you support the false Emperor from Reikland.

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>recruit orc shaman for azhag quest
>end turn
>this pops

>>144833252
You get a glimpse of one in the vampire intro video, she giggles. Probably a total sweetheart when she isn't hungry.

>>144833358
SIGMAR FORBIDS THIS

>>144831979
I can't stand Milo's accent. Sorry.

>>144833423
BY SIGMAR, NO!

>>144833390
I get this event way too often

Kholek or Archaeon for chaos vh playthrough?

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Sorry for being dumb but can someone explain magic to me?

About the spell on the left, what does it do exactly? What are power reserves? When is the best time to use this spell?

And about the UI on the right. The 30 there is basically the mana of my entire army right? What about that little curving bar there, what is that?

Also, is it just me or are the only useful spells the ones that buff/debuff? Damage and vortex spells feel so weak.

>>144833776
Sigvald is what I did my legendary with, so use Sigvald.

>>144833804
Also, I have a character that has multiple spells that do that. Do the effects stack?

>>144833804
ur gonna go to warhammer and do spells and shit
an yer gonna be fuckin pleased about it

>>144833804
On the left are character abilities, not spells. On the right are spells.

There is a certain amount of mana that you can hold at one time, and you got mana reserves, which returns mana back to you slowly over a few seconds or minutes. Damage spells against a group of units on larger battle sizes are shit. Damage spells against single targets are okay. If you're playing Mannfred or a Vampire hero, you'll learn to love the starting Lore of Death spell.

>>144833776
Archaon is the only appropriate leading lord, but Kholek can be forgiven because he can get 80% ward and that's just bonkers.

>>144833804
curvy bar is reserves
30 is the amount of magic you have to use
if you hover over it it shows how much magic you have/the rate you take it out of reserves. Reserves is the total amount you have to use

Magic is really weak atm, besides some single target spells and buffs

>>144831729
You've got norscans that sound like posh english, orks that sound like drunks and who suffer from the same thing as the dwarfs, the voice actor's voices aren't deep enough, an ork's voice is supposed to be deafening and booming and a dwarfs is supposed to sound deep and rumbling like the mines they work in, you've got people half assing the empire troops, the same god damn voice actor for each faction because CA was too lazy and cheap to get a different VA for each one. A lot of them have a bad habit of mumbling and slurring words together and its not because the character is like that, its because they're having a hard time trying to get the voice right. At least the brittonians sound okay, its obviously getting a little overblown and forced but at least they put effort in, same with the voice actor for franz and some of the voice actors for the vampires. However the female voice actor for them sucks ass and just sounds like she's some random person off the street reading the lines. I think the biggest culprit is that they aren't really getting into and enjoying their rolls.

Anyone willing to walk me trough the early campaign as orcs? I've tried several times at hard, but i still dont have any idea what im supposed to be doing.

Campaign map related things:
>Should i rush the dwarves? They seem to hit their t2 powerspike much faster than me.

>Should I have something like an army of gobbos to just run around rading and sacking, or have it support the main army?

>What I should occupy? Only the starting province? The mountains where you start?

>How to handle the economy? Run your shit close to red line to keep your army as big as it can early and support it by loot you get?

Then Battles:
>What is good for taking down dwarves? Loads of light cav? Are the chariots good?

> How i should actually do the battles? Distract with light cav so i dont get crossbowed to death? Try to use the grimgors black orcs to cut their line in two?

I've played trough Empire on hard, if it tells anything. Which funnily enough wasnt this confusing, seemed to have much more natural expansion directions. And ive played other TW's, but mostly as heavy infantry factions, so this is pretty new to me.

When do I get Mannfred's last quest battle?

>>144834192
When I beat them on Hard I fought the Orcs until I got a WAAAGH and then I attacked the dwarves with it.

If you're going to attack them inside a city try and make sure it's just the garrison you're fighting. The Boar Boy that Grimgor gets helps a lot.

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>stunties coming to heel

>>144834192
Bully other orcs first, try and diplomacy your way out of early dwarf wars.

Raid border fags for money. Outmuscle or confederate the other tribes, then pick off Azul with big armies.

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>>144833804
The left are skills or magic items, not spells. Just hover over them and you'll see descriptions of what these skills or items do. On the left the buttons are your spells. The 30 is how much magic you currently have to use. The bar is your power reserves (default 60, depends on winds of magic). This is what is used to fill up the active number (30), and also determines the speed it fills. If you blow all your spells at once, you will have very low power reserves and regenerate magic at a low rate, so the idea is to keep yourself topped off and use spells sparingly unless you've got some good items (Wand of Jet for example).

The reason the only spells that are worthwhile are buffs/debuffs is because the damage is bugged for all spells, and the hit detection on "bombardment" type spells. The higher the Unit Size in your options, the less damage they'll do instead of scaling properly. This is why Searing Doom (Lore of Metal) will kill maybe 4 guys if you're lucky over 15 minutes of pitched battle.

Oh and if you double click a spell before casting it, it will be "overcharged" and have additional or better effects, but have a 50% chance of doing shitloads of damage to your wizard. They also will cost more magic, making overcharging pretty much worthless with how bad magic already is.

God I hope they give magic a serious overhaul if not at least some fucking band-aid fixes. Literally the only reason to play Kemmler or Gelt is if you want to make things arbitrarily more difficult for yourself. Thanks, Warhammer.

>>144834429
>race traitors

THATS GOIN IN THE BOOK

>>144834192
Don't rush the Dwarfs, Thorgrim will fuck you up.
Grab your province and go south.
You should be able to go for a peace pact with the bloody spears once you grab the one they have.
Try to confederate later on and then start your crusade against the stunties.
Money is going to be tight.
Sack, raid or build shinies.
Later on you'll get a couple gold mines from the Dwarfs which will ease your pain.
For taking down dwarfs, bring two armies. They're the only faction that doesn't seem to instantly replenish their stacks. So do damage to them and they'll be hurting.
For a starting comp, 4 arrer boyz a couple rock lobbas, and infantry to fill in, use gobbos if you're strapped for cash.
Spiders and wolves can be useful to harass ranged infantry and arty.

>>144834192
be a horde, not a nation. Black Crag is defensible so hold that and maybe the province, don't worry about other settlements, they're all just sack materal. FIND armies, and BEAT THE SHIT out of them. Do not play like you're a nation looking to expand and invest in territory, there will be time for that later. Play like a warboss looking for the FIGHT, seek out armies aggressively and KILL THEM.

>>144834192
I have done greenskins on legendary. Heed my words, if you dare.

>Should i rush the dwarves? They seem to hit their t2 powerspike much faster than me.
I said "fuck the dwarves" and went south, taking out Karak Azul after dealing with the tooth-dudes.
>Should I have something like an army of gobbos to just run around rading and sacking, or have it support the main army?
I had shit tons of armies, and I can't 100% tell you what I did do early game, I really didn't use many gobbos, other than night goblins later on. Let alone a gobbo raiding crew.
>What I should occupy? Only the starting province? The mountains where you start?
Like I said, run south, I got lucky and the top knotz were complete bros to me, starting the alliance with me, rather than the typical other-way-around. So teaming up on the tooth-dudes and Karak Azul with 2 allies made it manageable.
>How to handle the economy? Run your shit close to red line to keep your army as big as it can early and support it by loot you get?
I like to run a strong economy, so I really only had recruitment buildings in my main city, which I'll touch on in a bit. Big boss tents are incredibly crucial, especially on higher diificulties, if you want to maintain your provinces without rebellions every two turns. They also reduce corruption, so having a ton of them is handy as fuck. Other than that, get walls on most settlements, and if you feel like they're not in danger, feel free to tear them down, and build more economy, if possible.

My capital actually had constant rebellions all game, since I was a greedy fuck. Building only one of each military building is actually viable with global recruitment due to shaman huts giving you more global recruitment slots.

>What is good for taking down dwarves? Loads of light cav? Are the chariots good?
As long as you keep the "orc cav sucks" meme in your mind, while still building a couple cav units you'll do pretty well. Too long cont.

>>144834019
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>>144834505
Thanks a ton.

Does this mean if I have a spell that "Greatly increases power reserves" I should spam it whenever the curvy bar isn't full?

>>144834192
>>144834757
part 2.

>What is good for taking down dwarves? Loads of light cav? Are the chariots good?
Goblin wolf riders are incredibly cheap, and for good reason. On the same note, they're incredibly fast, and can throw off the dwarves aim if you're willing to throw your cav away.
Abuse Grimgor. If you find a seed of rebirth and/or a health potion, equip Grimgor with it.

I never built a chariot or a giant in my run. Tons of people love the giant, so feel free to build it, but keep in mind, it's not necessary.

Regarding dwarves and the south, though, I only kept my capital city, and expanded south disregarding getting complete "provinces". The dwarves took Iron Rock and I essentially let them, and ignored them, furthering my progress south instead. Early game, dwarves can be tough for an orc to take down. Take a look at your weapon strengths for good armour piercing options. Base orc arrer boys are actually the best archers you can get against dwarves, since night goblins have poor armour piercing, and savage boys have low accuracy.

>>144834908
ya because you dont gain more reserves in battle, once that's empty no more spells

>>144835063
Alrighty many thanks.

>>144835063
Manfred's sword actually lets you replenish the total power reserve when he's in melee.
Which would be extremely useful if melee lasted longer than a minute.

>>144835151
well i just meant you dont naturally, there's gonna be abilities and whatnot that change that

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JURCHEN FUCKING SHITS

>>144825264
nice cat anon

>>144826157
Germanic Priestesses from Attila are infinitely better looking, Vampire waifs look like they're a fucking thousand years old and entering the dry stage of corpsemode, which is technically good as far as lore goes but doesn't make them pretty.

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Koreans sure have some funky helmets

Do we have any news on FotE? I've seen meloncat around working on WH but I'm really quite more concerned with a finished-up FotE, especially with the startpos fixed up so we don't have to disband and re-recruit entire armies at the start and don't have half-strength garrisons.
Plus having Norse and Slav factions have only their default units feels pretty weird, not least because their unit cards look all different.

>>144835848
He looks like an English policeman.

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>>144835982
>"WOTS ARR DIS DEN?"

>>144834380
>>144834496
>>144834584
>>144834757
>>144835008

Some ccookiecutter guides told me to rush dwarves. But sue for peace with dwarves and go fuck up other orcs? Allright. I guess its allright to run red income if you have the money to support it and sack the shit out of everything? This is so different compared to my usual style, which is pretty great actually.

But generally aim south first, and after that just roll with whatever is going on and focus on beating the other orc factions down, so they give you money for peace and later on force them to join you?

Thanks a lot guys!

>>144836112
In my game Top Knotz took over the entirety of the west, save for the top provinces under the border princes, while Karak Azul spread fast

Basically I confederated all the Orcs in the mountains and in the eastern badlands. I would fight dwarves, gain ground, sue for peace, then turn around and fuck up Karak Azul, and repeat until I took both out

Anyone else really want to play Medieval 2 after playing as the Empire?

Everytime I slam my Reiksguard into the back of the enemy infantry it makes me want to play M2.

>>144836112
I find that you often won't have red income as Greenskins unless you turn off taxes to help manage public order because of the mine in Black Crag.

That being said, yeah your income being slightly in the red isn't a big deal when you can get the lesser orc tribes to pay you 300-600 gold each turn, and you sack bigger settlements for an upwards of 7-8k.

>>144834505
>The reason the only spells that are worthwhile are buffs/debuffs is because the damage is bugged for all spells

That's plain wrong

>>144834429
>kazador the race-traitor
>kazador the dawi-shame
>kazador the shit-heel

IN THE BOOK

>>144834429
>Orc-Bane
He's a small guy.

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>its a CA still hasnt released a patch episode

>>144826083
>WH Elves
>qt

Enjoy your ayy lmao sluts

>Start a Very Hard empire campaign
>Some people don't want non aggro pacts
>Some people don't want to trade
>Gift them all a ton of dollar bills
>They still reject it

WHAT THE FUCK?

>>144829340
what are your in-game brightness / gamma settings?

>>144837993
I'm pretty sure there's a cap on positive opinion that cash buys you.

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>>144837816
I know what's up with their faces/eyes but I would still fug

>>144838141
Reminder that she cucked Finubar with Tyrion.

>>144837816
That's D&D, not Warhammer

>>144836486
>>144836490

Thanks again. Loving the general information and guidelines. Most guides and stuff on twc seem to be either faggots whining about weak units and economy as orcs instead of actually giving any advice, or timetables for every turn to something like 20 turns, which is pretty nofun.

Im still wondering though about occupying. Should i occupy something like one or two per province to have some shelter when needed and places to replace losses and generate shekels? Or just wing it and do stuff when it feels good?

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>>144838268
This doesn't look like an alien to you?

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reminder to nullify norn

>trolls rout faster than goblins
What the fuck

>>144838921
Yeah, it's dissapointing. Maybe they're better if you rush them and fight weaker enemies but when I used trolls they felt like garbage.

They're giant pussies and they run if they get tickled by Zombies.

>>144838921
They've really only ran when shot with a lot of ranged shit for me. At least they regen as they run.

>Getting the punitive trait on an orc lord

>>144838539
Become the greenskin. Do what feels right. There's no "perfect" way to play, so let the spirit of Gork guide you.

>>144838921
Keep them by your general, and among your other troops. They are pathetic when left unattended, but their actual strength is something you can capitalize on.

Remember everyone; for a nice casual experience feel free to download one of the many "make my game boring as fuck" cheat mods on "most subscribed" page 2 and 3.

>>144837993
VH is just a retarded autist adventure, you have to live with that.

You could also play Normal or Hard if you want to have fun

>>144838976
They have like 50 something speed so I used them as flanking units to great effect and they're decent enough as monsterous battering rams.

>>144839251
Should I get the double skill points one? The increased movement speed one? The one that makes the enemy not able to use agents? Or one of the many overpowered-unit mods?

Ah hell, I'll take em all.

>>144839312
Casual detected.

>Huns in FotE
Remind me why they have tier 3 spearmen and free hordes of Bosphoran infantry that can fight evenly with my germanic infantry as well as tier 3 germanic horsemen
What the fuck DON'T they have tier 3s of?

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>>144825264
Cute as heck

>>144839406
The first two and last one apply to enemy factions too! So instead of that why not try out one of the "no upkeep - player only" mods!

>>144839312
Hard is way too facking easy though.

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>>144838681
This doesn't

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>>144839406
>Casual detected
Got my Everchosen and Emperor achievment, Very Hard still isn't fun and feels more like work than a game.

Back to Normal or Hard campaign to have actual fun.
Also only capturing Western and Eastern Sylvania and then waging an eternal war against the Empire without capturing or razing anything is the best thing ever.
Fighting only for the sake of fighting!

>>144839251
Mods I downloaded:
home region movement bonus
retinues don't go away
slower skirmish cav
level 60 cap
no floppy hats

rate my casualness

The biggest problem with total war is that unless you let the AI cheat in and out of battles you'll never get to know the struggle of keeping your empire alive. It's just a slow guaranteed victory that feels so empty in the end. I want to fear the end times.

>>144839705
>no floppy hats
literally get the fuck off this board and never come back. you're the lowest form of human life and deserve to be gunned down in a back alleyway by a thunderer.

>>144839640
That's true, but how can the game be made harder without making the AI cheating that obviously?

People are saying that very hard BAI acts differently in TWW
Are they just memeing?

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>>144839705
>no floppy hats
gtfo

>>144839705
All of that effects the AI as well but would potentially make end game easier.

not really casual... but terrible taste in hats.They rub off on you.

>>144838234
Then cucked Tyrion with Malekith.

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>>144839747

>tfw the Huns bring out a true end times feel with those damn horse archers

Am I never supposed to have downtime as Orcs?

How many Archaons must Grimgor kill so Archaon wont respawn in the North-East corner?

>>144840027
Why would you want downtime? The only downtime you should have as greenskins is when everyone else is dead

>>144840027
Orcs have downtime when they're dead

>>144840027
not really
but if you do just raid

>>144839705
>no floppy hats

Well done, anon. Well done. Their butthurt is delicious.

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>>144839705
>not liking badass hats
Poor taste anon, why not just go use radious

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>>144839705
>no floppy hats
go back to Bretonnia with you

>>144840027
Dwarves offered me NAP and after that I spent 20 or so turn raiding their best provinces. Each army got a Waaagh and reduced Dwarves from 15 cities to 5 in a couple of turns.

>>144839973
Further reminder that Elves are matriarchal:
>High Elves have the Everqueen who cucks her husband with the Phoenix King for a year
>Wood Elves have Ariel who has an annual rotation of boytoys that become Orion
>Malekith is momma's boy for Morathi

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>>144839705

>no floppy hats

Don't talk to me or my general ever again you piece of shit.

>>144840079
i'm pretty sure everyones just joking around

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>>144840142
>tfw not an elven girl

I can't wait for the release of black orc professional trebuchets, what are you guys looking forward to?

>>144840252
I'm eager for the mounted(flying) version

>>144840252
Dwarf pegasus archers.

>>144840189
No we fucking aren't. Those hats are based and you got poor ass taste.

>>144840252
Handgunner Zombie Doom Divers (Lore of Light)

>defend city as dwarfs
>can't put canons on the walls

What the fuck?

>>144840252
Zombie mounted rifleman

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>>144840252

Slayer Ironbreakers (Great Weapons)

>>144840407
you don't need cannons when you have ironbreakers

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>>144840189
Are you serious? They look awesome as hell, one of the reasons why I like the Empire.
The Landsknecht look is just perfect!

>>144840252
Bretonnian grail boar boyz

>>144840407
>siege defence
What magic is this?

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>>144839705
>level 60 cap

Sheesh, lords not OP enough for you?

>>144840252
Savage Black Goblin Hammerers (Monstrous Infantry)

>>144840506
people keep saying AI doesn't do siege attacks but I've had 10 or so in my last campaign

>>144840498
>tfw there isn't a More Floppy Hats mod

>>144840573
>level 60 Dwarf Lord

>>144840625
I dunno, I leave unprotected but walled settlements everywhere and the AI doesn't bother going after them half the time.

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>>144840252

Ungrimgor Ironhidefist (Black Slayer King Orc)

>>144840645
I want to see floppy hats on my giants, bats, wolves and a huge one on varghulf. Somebody get on it.

>>144840252
Altdorf royal floppy hats brigade (great weapons)

>>144840573
7 points for lightning strike
army buffs is 8
so you get about 15 point for melee and mounts
I just fucked up my Manfred leveling so I didn't have enough for melee and campaign skills in my first playthrough.
haven't used it since
Ork campaign finished and Grimgor was lvl 31 after I finished stomping the Empire

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>>144840774
Aren't those already in the game?
>inb4 that's the joke

>>144840003
The Huns are actually fucking hard to deal with without corner camping as certain factions even on normal or hard, if you have no cav and/or shitty foot archers you're basically fucked against them.
Strangely, the Romans eat them alive due to testudo and ERE's armored archers / WRE's God's Own Crossbow.

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>>144824906
ASININE MORTAL

>>144840859
I guess it was just a joke at the naming scheme of radious that makes anything sound silly

About to set off on a nice chummy Chaos campaign - any mods I should pack in before I set off?
How's the "slower battles" mod? Any good?

>>144840625
I have only ever had one siege defensive and it was just some rebels smashing their heads against a city I just took so the gates were smashed in and walls were broken.

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t h r i l l m e

~grimgor

>>144840983
Can he... see through that?


One thing about the warhammer universe that strikes me as unrealistic is.. why havent people all decided to migrate to Bretonnia from the horrible areas of the empire that keep getting raided by Norscan SUEPRHUMANS

>>144841116
Watch out for his Black Orc Longbeards (Shields)

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>>144840963
Just build walls, friend

>>144841146
>SUEPRHUMANS
you mean the naked guys that keep running away at the first sight of trouble?

>>144841223
Man look how big the chaos warriors are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5enBMSH5ghc

>>144841116

>Rank 3

>>144841146
HE DOESN'T NEED TO SEE WHEN HE CAN SMELL YOUR FEAR!

>>144841146
Kislev likes where it is. Kislev will stay here.

>>144841059
Get an increased horde growth mod, it's really fucking boring otherwise the first 20-30 turns

>>144840963
How is it strange? When the WRE got over it's fears they completely flattened the Huns at the Catalaunian Plains

>>144841304
That's so scary anon :<

Give me a nice chaos campaign challenge. Nothing removing access from humanoid units.

>>144841301
>Wanting to be the strongest player on the field
>Wanting to easily curbstomp everyone
>Hating fun

How long until Radious tabletop?

>>144841386
Zero points in blue line Lord skills.

>>144841386
Chariots only

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THE THRONG IS MUSTARD

>>144841280
Chaos warriors are not normal norscan people

>>144841325
Thanks. I heard they were a bit of a last minute addition but I like the idea of a big horde rolling around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH6XtpqfEd4

This guys channel is the absolute best

He's got a great accent, fantastic narration, keeps it entertaining and is one of the most knowledgeable people

>>144841406
It actually exists! Here is a link https://www.games-workshop.com/en-BE/Age-of-Sigmar

>>144841280
>that first chaos warrior getting charged
kek
>"damn bros we look so badass showing up out of the fog, these pussies are about to get-OH FUCK HES CHARGING ME"

>>144841498
t. didn't even get a review copy

>>144841581
>"GET HIM OFF ME GET HIM OFF ME"

>>144834429
I don't suppose there's a way to turn some empire provinces into your vassals, yet?

They literally hold the fort till they die and only offer around 900 gold for a 'peace treaty'.

>>144841370
True
I guess what really killed it in the end was finances and a billion germans, since the Germans obliterate the Romans in field battles

>>144841498
How much do I need to donate to his patreon for him to read out my erotic Warhammer fanfiction?

>>144841498
I knew who it was going to be as soon as I read "accent".

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What the fuck why are rock lobbers so strong
and how can the AI afford to spam giant armies AND agents up to the max cap?
How much cheating income does the AI get this is bullshit

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>>144841498
>Arch "20 fps on my non review copy with Radious" Warhammer
No.

>>144841792
>How much cheating income does the AI get
it's not just income
it gets really ridiculous buffs
I'm going to look a bit more in the game files later this week to see how much bullshit is happening behind the scenes and try to fix it

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>>144841498

fuck off arch

>Likes Greenskins
>Likes Greenskins
>Likes Greenskins

Every other fucking battle my generals get this retarded trait even though I'm executing prisoners. Why the fuck is this even allowed?
Same goes for likes vampires and likes chaos. The whole traits system is retarded.

>>144840252
Still waiting for Dismounted Royal Cataphracts Amazon Raptor Riders ( Hochland long rifles ) Katana ( Great Weapons ) with Trollhammer torpedo detachment.

>>144841903
>The whole traits system is retarded.
it is
and you can't do anything about it

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>>144841386
O N L Y M A R A U D E R S


>>144841792
The AI doesn't use its economy to support its agents.

That 200-300 upkeep cost you incur for every agent you pick up? Yeah, the AI gets a separate budget for that.

Those 8-12 agents coming out of that one region province. Yep.

I came up against a Dwarf hero called Something The Durable. His name weren't Something, but I can't remember it. He had a bunch of entry-tier units so I sicced my local stack of gobs and orc boys on him. Massacred his army in half a minute, just him left. 3 goblin spearboiz, 2 orc boys, 1 witch hero, 1 catapult hanging back. All a little battle worn but not too bad. None of them could even put a dent in him. He ended up beating the shit out of all of them and winning the battle. Horrible stuff.

>>144841792
>How much cheating income does the AI get this is bullshit
They don't get cheating income, they simply don't pay upkeep as far as I understand and the AI code allots them a certain amount of recruitment. This is the reason why the AI will be developing its towns, spamming agents as soon as it builds the first building that lets them do it, and start recruiting full stacks from the word go.
Have you never fought one-province factions throwing around four stacks of endgame units before?

>>144841990
Er... embarassing. I picked the wrong screenshot.

Pretend all those units are marauders and dogs.

>>144842019
Its doubly worse for the Norscans, their buildings produce shitloads of cash so they can end up being more dangerous than Chaos

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>tfw dusting scrubs in multiplayer with my non magical army bretonian army

>>144841498
wow that voice and tonality is painful.

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>it's a Norsca army with a fucking thousand warhounds episode again

Do the Greenskins have a real life analogue?

>>144842103
and don't forget the building that gives them +9 to experience

>>144842202
Chavs

>>144841990
>>144842092
"Herald of Dogs" strange I've never seen that before.

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>>144841498
Just to clarify, we norwegians don't speak like that. His accent is horrible, although I approve the attempt on none american accent. His mmms and tisks are an attempt to sound clever and thoughtful.
I myself speak english with american accent (me mum is americano) and i feel bad for doing so. But talking brit would be faking it, and its to damn hard.
Back to the point though, please don't associate norwegians with arch. Just think of him as an outcast of society.

Okay I give up on this. I cannot win as Dwarfs on Very Hard or Legendary. This shit seems to be impossible.
The Orcs can shit out 6-7 stacks by turn 10 that just run around fucking every settlement you capture and if you don't play aggressively then Grimgor shows up at turn 15-20 with at least 3 stacks following him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIQJpBDvxIs

average vampire count player

PSHHH, NOTHING PERSONNEL, MORTAL

>>144841914
Dawi wizard neckbeard recruited from karak mancave

Why do the Bloody Spears and Greenskins confederate on turn fucking seven in every dwarf playthrough? After taking silver road pretty much a turn later 3 stacks show and destroy you.

Wh'ats the most alt-right faction>?

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>>144841498
Its nice to see warhammer has some following in Norway.

>>144842372
No, Norway should be bombed!

jk, only Arch should be

In the original Total War: Shogun, I once watched a Kensai successfully defend a bridge against an entire brigade of enemy Samurai. In that moment the last vestiges of historical accuracy drained out of the series, never to return. It wasn't a great loss: the franchise is still the best wedding of tactical and strategic layers ever to grace a computer. But given the emptiness of its historical settings, it makes sense that Total War has finally ditched any pretence of simulation with the entirely pretend Total War: Warhammer.

Not that the result has much in common with either piece of source material. As a veteran of both, I started out utterly confused after an inexcusably bad tutorial and lack of instruction material. Miniature gamers will discover that tried and tested tabletop tactics don't work on these digital battlefields. Total War devotees, on the other hand, will find that while the mechanics are familiar, the vast diversity of new and bizarre units make the game play very differently to its predecessors.

Given how awful the learning curve is at the moment, it's tempting to stall on this until various bloggers and vloggers have got on the case to smooth it out. Patches will come, prices may drop. Those who like a challenge may wish to take the plunge now and learn the hard way. Either way, if you have the slightest interest then this is not a game to miss. In bringing fantasy to Total War, Creative Assembly have made both the best Total War game and the best fantasy strategy game to date.

>>144842520
why

>>144843216
I couldn't post on /a/ or /g/ for some reason so I was wondering if we were down

>>144842492
More like skavenfags and DEfags. VC is just traditional evil.

>>144842215
This desu.

I thought of doing a expedition of two large armies as the dwarves to wipe out the varg, then they splitted ways; one army can go up and the other and go left essentially covering more ground.

Suddenly while moving along the fuckin other tribe declares war and next minute i lost one whole army to a battle of 4 armies with +9 experience people not even that deep and the other is now truly alone in norsca land.
I dont know what made it worse, my connection to the leader (rank 20) or the fact I should of saved beforehand.
I still can't sleep at night

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>>144843131
I don't like what you're doing.

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>>144843417
those nipples look so fucking detailed they look like someone took someones actual nipples photoshopped them on

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>>144843131

>Total War
>realistic
>simulator

Stop it ya grot.

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>>144843554
Explain

>>144843554
where is this from?
is this the entire map they're planning on releasing?

>>144842636
I'm convinced that winning the Dwarf campaign is based purely on getting lucky with the AI.

My first 5 attempts ended around turn 30 when there was literally 9 Orc stacks just running around the south fucking everyone up. Then on my sixth attempt one Dwarf AI faction fucked the Orcs up really early on and allowed me to actually build some defenses.

>>144843661
Initially there were high hopes that TW would be a franchise for realism, but sadly this has been tossed aside.
TWW is a fun game but it would've been equally fun to have a historical battle simulation.
t. someone who grew up playing Rome and like TWW

>>144843731
yeah and it goes worse if you take that regional occ mod. Its bizarre to suggest they have the easiest start position, its probably one of the hardest simply because greenskins regularly tunnel under you and attack any point in the chain.

>>144825448
your dedication never ceases to amaze me

>>144843704
>>144843705
See https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/143737175/#143746021
I got this version of the map off here and /tg/,

In case anyone wants a challenge/twist on their campaign try playing purely defensively. Only going into war when another faction declares war on you (and without instigation). Bonus: No initiating any diplomacy and purely letting AI decide the future.

>>144843987
huh I'll be damned
it's actually there

>>144844052
that sounds interesting, I'll play empire, take Reikland and then do that.

>>144843987
My excitement fills me with fear.

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>All expansions combined with blood dlc thrown in the mix
If my Warhammer playing self had been told this years back I'd have never believed them. The game is fun as fuck and the best part is it's still just the foundation of what's to come.

>>144844152
>>144844180
Dorfs are going to get raped hard if they open up the Silver Road and Death Pass though. That comfy starting position? Yeah good luck, goblins, Dawi Zhar and fucking Ogres are going to be storming in from the East. Might even be fucking Kurgan thrown into the mix.

>>144843417
>>144843661
You two realize that the anon is making a joke right? One Kensai defending a bridge against tons of samurai is really fantasy

>>144844052

I did this on my first Legendary Dwarf campaign. I had only held the Silver Road province using one army while roaming around with Thorgrim, raping and pillaging orc settlements and Chaos hordes before my autosave got corrupted.

Pretty much all of the Empire regions got razed save one or two. It was fun.

Anyone know where to edit special aura sizes like Benediction in the pack file database?

I'm going to lose my shit. I can't figure out where the fuck it is and I thought I found it once.

>sucks CA's dick for two weeks straight to pay his dues for early access
>now shits on Warhammer
>I-I-I r-really l-love it, it's a f-fantastic game but it's s-shit :)
>comment section swarmed by /his/fags and Parashills
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etCK4EkjyZw
wew lad

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>>144844326
I know but it's almost too real.

What's the best mod for making agents less annoying?

>>144844578
That's why Arch is the only one i trust

>>144844738
There's a mod that just turns off hostile agent actions. I'm leaving it on until ca fixes agents

>>144844578
fanboys truly are the cancer of this planet

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>>144844326

I'm actually glad TW isn't an ultra realistic autism game.

>>144844725
that's a nipple

>>144842295
>Herald of Dogs
Also known as the Tuesday night MC at the local strip joint

>>144832530
Bats and wolves gather!

>>144841325
i can't find an increases horde growth mod ((

>>144844578
Literally who?

When I bring Empire artillery (cannons, rockets) to deal with a capital or city with walls, very often it'll mean a huge jump in my autoresolve chances to the point that I just don't build siege equipment anymore. However, whenever I try to do these battles manually, getting the door down is easy enough, but any sort of assault through the now open door just stops all my shit right there. Moreover, trying to scale walls with ladders is basically commiting suicide with those units even if there are only like zombies defending the fucking ramparts. How do you siege in a battle without towers? Anyone got an answer for this?

Okay, how do I git gud at Dwarf VH campaign?

I'm currently on turn 37 and the Orcs are throwing at least two stacks a fucking turn at my lands. This shit is unreal, I cannot figure out how the fuck you're supposed to manage this.

>>144845331
Build towers you lazy fuck

>>144845213
I don't know if there is one, didn't play the campaign with one and it wasn't fun

>>144845386
AI recruitment if fucked right now, especially on H/VH

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>>144844578
POSTING /his/FAG SALT

>>144845438
what are the fun-rankings for campaign?

>>144845331
Destroy the walls with the cannons?

guys what is a danse macabre

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>>144845465
>An entire decade of butthurt awaits

how do i build space marines??

>>144845386
My trick was to wait for Grimgor to bring him and usually another stack at Karaz-a-Karak, and have my full stack garrisoned there

Every time they attack, and there I crush their offensive

From there I blitz their lands as quickly as possible

>>144845629
They're called lords and heroes in the game

>>144845602
Can someone make a smug Mannfred please

>slav dlc for Attila will never be on torrents
feels bad man

>>144845726
>TWW will not be on torrents any time soon
Feels good

>>144845602
>sales are off the charts
>already their best selling game
>CA will announce that they are done with historical titles
>LOTR Total War, Westeros Total War
>/his/fags on suicide watch
a man can only dream

>>144845775
>he paid for half a game
Thanks but no thanks

Demigryphs cost 1400, here is a list of units that fulfill similar role, are more expensive and still lose to demis without dealing any real damage to them:
Grail Knights - 1500
Hex Wraith - 1500
Chaos Lances - 1600
Dragon Ogres - 1800
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth - 2200

>>144841903
Never had it during my Empire campaign
Sounds like you like Greenskins too much

Time traveller from 2022 here, ask me anything, I will be only answering Total War Warhammer related questions (oh, Hillary wins btw)

>>144845807
have fun not playing the game then :^)

>>144845530
Imho:
1. Greenskins (fun units, Grimgor, stoopid events and general flavor, Grimgor, Doomdiver Catapults, Grimgor)
2. Vampire Counts (slowly corrupting lands of the Empire, spooky scary skeletons, vampire qt, Lore of Death)
3. Empire (awesome hats, best Emperor since Sigmar his Greatness Karl Franz, good at everything, lots of Confederation options)
4. Dwarfs (unbreakable infantry line, Runesmiths are cool, relatively boring and you'll get fucked by Grimgor)
5.Chaos (horde gameplay is not fun, units are too weak compared to the TT, when you lose an army it's pretty much game over)

>>144843131
>In the original Total War: Shogun, I once watched a Kensai successfully defend a bridge against an entire brigade of enemy Samurai. In that moment the last vestiges of historical accuracy drained out of the series, never to return
Yeah except stuff like this actually happened historically, since tiny bridge fights are basically 1v1 me fgt duels anyway.
Also, you're baiting too hard.

>>144845924
PATCH WHEN
DLC WHEN

>>144845901
Grail knights lose to demis? Aren't they supposed to be guys who ran around looking for the Lady and slaying monsters with their dick?

>>144845978

next week

>>144845901
hexwraiths and bats beat demigryph knights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VK6NpUJxvH8

strength and honor

>Ulthuan is entirely surrounded by ocean
High Elf campaign is going to have Shogun 2 level of naval landings, isn't it

>>144845952
for me:
1. VC
2. Empire
3. Greens
4. Dorfs
5. Chaos
Chaos has kind of a shit roster atm. I couldn't get into it.

>>144845978
The first official patch is released on the 4th of the 7th 2016

The first DLC is the blood knight unit released a day after the first patch

Any other questions?

>>144845987
>Grail knights lose to demis?
They can barely scratch the demis, its ridiculous desu, I dont know much about warhammer lore, but I remember people in these threads saying that they like empire because its some average guys going up against impossible odds, well its the complete opposite in the game, because empire has both extremely cheap and extremely strong units

>>144842202
You know the answer

>>144845987
>Aren't they supposed to be guys who ran around
>supposed to be
Keyword desu, a lot of things are supposed to be true but they aren't - for example, performance is supposed to be better but I don't know if that's actually true since while it runs better than R2 or Attila, the unit sizes are also roughly half that of R2 or Attila. AI is also supposed to be not fucking incompetent seeing as we've dumbed down - yes, dumbed down - a lot of the mechanics specifically so that they'd learn to deal with it, but they're still morons about assaulting walls. Nuclear silo towers probably don't help.

>>144845676
I tried that, the issue I have is that any time I beat an Orc army, another Orc faction just shits out a stack that runs into my lands. I'm stuck in a constant defensive position and any time I expand I bump into more Orc stacks that push me back.

The AI dwarf factions are fucking worthless and never send the help I ask for. It seems utterly rigged unless you get insanely lucky with the AI. I mean I've had Grimgor show up with fucking Black Orcs on turn 35, 9 units of black orcs! How the fuck am I supposed to be ready to fight that? Not to mention Grimgor himself will be level 26 by the point so he can literally solo any early game army.

>>144846015
>2 units beat one unit
you dont fucking say anon, especially since the combined price of the two units is 1850 vs 1400 for the demis

>>144845952
Honestly same for me, but move chaos up to 2 and shuffle everything else down

>>144846137
Empire and Attilla and such were not badly optimized, they just did too much stuff.
Tell me one game with the LoD of the TW games that runs well.
The technology simply doesn't exist yet to have tens of thousands of units at high detail fighting it out in real time on screen.

>>144831243
>shitting on the guy that voiced civilized generals in Rome II and Attila
>shitting on the guy that voiced blackwall
end thyself

>>144846015
what about cairn wraiths?
demigryphs don't have magical right?

>>144846219
This is optimized for single player experience

the vampire count player should be able to afford more than the enemy.

In addition, hexwraiths can be ressurrected by vampire magic (invocation of nehek)

strength and honor

>>144846219
Well, the bats were only used to break the charge of the Demigryphs, so hypothetically if you could catch them charging your infantry with the Hexwraiths you could use the bats elsewhere.

>>144846015
>2 units vs 1 unit
Two germanic warbands also beat a single cornuti.

>>144846285
>Attila was not badly optimized
Yes, it fucking was. Rome 2 runs literally 15 fps higher despite having the same number of units and similar resolution.
I can't speak for the actual technological possibility of 'tens of thousands', but I'm certain we can do much fucking better than Attila since I can have 5000 vs 5000 battles in Rome 2 at 45 fps or so, which is also my fps count in Attila's vanilla 2000 v 2000 battles.
My original point, however, was that Warhammer is said to run better...which it does, except armies are fucking terribly small.

>>144846379
>invocation of nehek
it's useless atm
>>144846379
>strength and honor
what kind of pencil dicked fagget are you?
did you actually use a forum signature on here?

>>144846113
>a dude on horse should be stronger than dude on half lion-half eagle killing machine

>>144842121
>being proud of killing people with the strongest army
okay anon

>>144846364
I doubt cairnwraiths could catch demigryph knights due to being melee. In addition, I believe they do less damage than hexwraiths. The main aim of course is, stopping the charge with the bats and then terrifying them with the hexwraiths. Keep in mind the bats are needed to chase the demis off the field as the demis will undoubtedly rally after being broken

strength and honor

>>144842636
But they confederate on turn 3 the latest.

>>144846379
>This is optimized for single player experience
I play on legendary and have literally never seen the AI recruit demis, its always a bunch of swordsmen and some crap artillery, so whenever someones talking about dealing with demigryphs they are obviously talking about MP

>>144846404
its assuming that the guy using demis is a dumbass desu

>>144846524
>strength and honor
>what kind of pencil dicked fagget are you?
Not him, but
>fagget
>insulting someone's manhood on an anonymous rice tax collection board
Why is Strength and Honor a forum sig anyway

>>144846097
High Elves and Kislev DLC when