/twg/ - Total War General

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You know, skeletons in this game look more comedic then intimidating or frightening.

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>>144868768

>archaon will forever be known as the everfailure alongside abbadon

How the fuck does Chaos even pick their champions. The only fucker who ever did anything special was Horus.

>>144868979

They're meant to mimic those skellingtons from Jason and the Argonauts, that's why it looks like they're stop-motion at times.

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2th for terror

In the original Total War: Shogun, I once watched a Kensai successfully defend a bridge against an entire brigade of enemy Samurai. In that moment the last vestiges of historical accuracy drained out of the series, never to return. It wasn't a great loss: the franchise is still the best wedding of tactical and strategic layers ever to grace a computer. But given the emptiness of its historical settings, it makes sense that Total War has finally ditched any pretence of simulation with the entirely pretend Total War: Warhammer.

Not that the result has much in common with either piece of source material. As a veteran of both, I started out utterly confused after an inexcusably bad tutorial and lack of instruction material. Miniature gamers will discover that tried and tested tabletop tactics don't work on these digital battlefields. Total War devotees, on the other hand, will find that while the mechanics are familiar, the vast diversity of new and bizarre units make the game play very differently to its predecessors.

Given how awful the learning curve is at the moment, it's tempting to stall on this until various bloggers and vloggers have got on the case to smooth it out. Patches will come, prices may drop. Those who like a challenge may wish to take the plunge now and learn the hard way. Either way, if you have the slightest interest then this is not a game to miss. In bringing fantasy to Total War, Creative Assembly have made both the best Total War game and the best fantasy strategy game to date.

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>play VC
>bro it up with the Dwarves during Chaos invasion
>Decide to do the quest battles in Southern Badlands (controlled by the Dwarves)
>Didn't know about the teleport button, so march all the way south in raiding stance
>give a medium gift to the Dwarves every turn to offset the diplomatic penalty
>When its all done the Dwarves have so much cash they've actually overtaken me in the strenght ranking
>Dwarves still end up hating my guts, and ally themselves with the Empire and Brettonia
>Surrounded on all sides, can't attack one without dragging their whole alliance into it

halp

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>obligatory post about magic being shit unless you're playing on medium or small unit size

>>144869106
Is he the Antiochus of Warhammer?

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GOBBOZ

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nth for memes

>>144869106
>horus
>not the single largest fuckup

>>144869252
Are there any factions you can ally with? How far away are you from the chaos invasion?

>>144868701
>be on legendary
>stunty shows up with 19 catapults and a lord
My screen shot didn't work but god damn, it was glorious. The absolute madman

Should I phase out Grudgethrowers for cannons, or keep both, or just not bother with cannons?

I don't know anything about what Dwarf Arty is good.

>>144869507
He had a lot of grudges to settle

How do I embed a lord into a unit?

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>>144868979
They're only funny when not bearing down on you under a flexing bat.

>>144869106
>The only fucker who ever did anything special was Horus.
Archaon did squat the Fantasy setting though (thanks to the everbutthurt GW after SoC).

>Start Dwarf VH campaign for the millionth time
>Grimgor shows up with two stacks turn 20

Nope. I refuse to believe this is possible.

>>144869542
Go 50/50. I personally like cannons more, but throwers are very good for sieges and have bigger AoE.

>>144869598
You play the TT.

>>144869502

Chaos is defeated, only the Varg are left, but are contained in Norsca, so I don't really need to worry about that.

No possible allies, although the triple alliance is at war with Estalia, so I could attack them to score some points with the other factions, maybe get them to break their alliance.

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>not playing on Ultra unit-size

>>144869106
Didn't Archaon actually succeed in destroying the Old World during the End Times though? I haven't read too much on it but as far as I'm aware the world did end in some way and Chaos was involved

>>144869106
>Archaon, The Everchosen, Lord of the End Times, Chaos Incarnate, Herald of the Apocalypse, Warlord of the forces of Chaos United, Scourge of the Empire, Destroyer of Worlds, Exalted Grand Marshal of the Apocalypse
>A failure

anyone know how this game saves replays? If theres patches will the replay play out differently?

>>144869781
>End Times
>canon

el

>>144869691
orcs have no early armour pen, just spam some heavy infantry

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Just got ambushed for the first time. It's going pretty well.

So, do you actually use 2h warriors and longeards as dwarfs? Since they are less tanky than the standard variant, and your power comes from ranged units anyway, are they worth it at all?

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>144870020

Any variant of longbeards is worth it

>>144869826
>>144869781
>>144869626

Archaon failed so fucking bad GW had to step in after Storm of Chaos. Instead of actually following the results of the campaign they rewrote the story to make it look like he was about to win, then got headbutted by Grimgor who promptly left the scene.

Seriously, it was fucking terrible. The End Times made it even worse because it ended with Age of Shitmar.

>>144870020

I only ever use them against Chaos.

>>144870020
The only infantry worth anything is Ironbreakers.

>>144870203
I was specifically talking about 2h, I know LB are a straight upgrade to warriors.

>>144869876
>hahaha it's not canon


I don't understand this meme. The owner of the IP stopped printing the books and killed the figures for Warhammer fantasy, that's about as canon as it gets.


Did the meaning of canon change or something? Does literally anyone get to decide what's canonical now?

>>144870215

tell me about End times anon, what exactly happened? I hear a lot about Storm of Chaos but after thatjust kinda stop talking about it... like its some kind of memory they are trying to forget

>>144870281
Literally the entire fanbase up and left when End Times and Age of Shitmar happened. Doesn't get more non-canon than that, regardless of what GW wish.

>>144869626
Meh, their performance is mostly sub-par too frankly. The real danger with fighting against vampire counts is dealing with the monsters and the tarpits of chaff at the same time. On their own stuff like skeletons, zombies, and ghouls get their shit slapped.

>>144869252
There is a teleport button?

>>144870391
I don't think you understand the definition of canon

>>144870475
And I don't think you know Death of the Author.

>>144870474

Yes, learn from my folly and use it anon

How should I build Mannfred? Lore of Vampires or Death? Warrior tree? Or Leadership tree?

Best or most useful tree to research first?

>>144868701
>Pagoda edition
It begins.

>>144870391
>Doesn't get more non-canon than that

You clearly don't understand what that word means

>>144870503
Which is not the same thing as canon.

>>144870391
>Literally the entire fanbase

I think you're watering down the word literally here

>regardless of what GW wish

Again, the owner of the IP doesn't decide its future? Because in all practical senses it seems they do, and did.

>>144870475
>>144870609
Also what these guys said.

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>>144870215
'Archaon' didn't fail because he's a character in a fuckign story you retarded fuck. GW opened it up to a tournament in which ONE faction chaos had 3-4 players match up against 30 players of EVERY OTHER faction at a time when chaos was underpowered and this led to the shock result that Chaos didn't win the campaign.

GW fucked up with the End Times and SoC plotlines and they also had no fucking clue where there were going with the setting because it was doing so poorly.

>>144870594
> I already finished the battle by marching for 10 turns in raiding stance
Can I teleport back?

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wtf marienburg

>>144870604
What does?

>>144870215
>quoting me
You're barking up the wrong preacher. No matter through what GM fiat and mental gymnastics, but he did finish an entire setting unlike Horus who just willingly let himself be baited into a civil war with daddy.
But let's not talk any more about the fanfic tier end times.

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>tfw away from strong brew and warm fire in a cozy mountain

How do Ikko Ikki cope without metsuke? I always used to crutch on them driving up my income. Do they get any extra monks in exchange? Seems kind of bad if you just sacrifice 1/3 of your agents for no real gain.

t. considerer of making Ikko campaign

>>144870503
I don't see how that's relevant to what's canon and what's not. Feel free to explain how it is though

>>144870391
Got a source for this? A few threads earlier some anon said Age of Sigmar is doing really well and is making up for 40% of GW's profit in this fiscal year. His word is as good as yours.

>>144870709
does it automatically after the battle.

>>144870731
Pagoda editions are a mene from times of old.

>>144870731
it does.

>>144870391
yes the end times and age of sigmar are complete shit, but it doesn't make it non-canon unless they decide to retcon it

>>144868979
>PointMan
Holy fuck you've been gone for awhile

>>144869106
>falling for one of the most tired and stale /tg/ memes

>>144870842
>and is making up for 40% of GW's profit in this fiscal year.
GW mostly sells AoS and 40k, that 40% doesn't mean anything without concrete cashmoney numbers.

>>144870338

Narrative campaign with special rules they had around the world, like Chaos could field a bajillion Warriors and such. People would compete and then send in the results, and it ended with Chaos being roflstomped, After it was done GW said it was a terrifying battle and Chaos nearly won and only being defeated at the final push, because hey, fuck the results. The reality was that Chaos wouldn't even make it out of the goddamn Wastes.

Doesn't matter now though, the setting and franchise is dead. AoS is the shittiest successor anyone could have asked for. They even killed Slaanesh because lol-rated-m-for-mature.

>>144870753

>fanfic tier end times.

Well, credit where credit is due, things actually happened.

>>144870842
Betrayal at Calth (a single scenario) made more money than the entirety of AoS since its release.

>>144869834
bump, would be helpful to know.

>>144870391
>Literally the entire fanbase up and left

They didn't leave shit, they were thrown out because they didn't care enough about the game to put money in it but wouldn't stop whining anyway

>>144871062
>Well, credit where credit is due, things actually happened.
We should've been careful what we wished for.

>>144871042
Yeah, and 40k is super fucking popular, so if it manages to get 40% next to that, it's not doing that bad.

>>144871097
I believe you but I'd believe a source more.

>>144871097
>space marines vs space marines sold well

What a twist

>>144871292
>so if it manages to get 40% next to that, it's not doing that bad.
It's just confused 40k fags picking up Sigmarine kits by mistake.

>>144871215

Fantasy had a lot of issues, both from game rules and pricing. Killing the franchise and replacing it with not-40k was not the answer.

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Tell me about the Mousillon /twg/.

>>144871215
GW thought people who had played the game for years would need to buy the same amount of models as people who were just coming into the hobby.

The problems is, the cost of entry was so fucking hIgh that less and less people thought it was worth it to play the tabletop and just settled on the fringes with the role-playing games and novels. This wasn't helped by the fact that the model prices grew every year to offset the lack of income from new players.

>>144871215
>they were thrown out because they didn't care enough about the game

They cared about the game, they didn't care for GWs monetization policy. GW are bigger jews than than even the Parajews. Up to a hundred bucks or local equivalent for a single box of 12 minis, go fuck yourself.

>>144871461
They have dismounted knights while bretonnia doesn't

>>144871614
I've not played warhammer total war - but are you implying they got rid of dismounting cavalry?

What the fuck.

>>144871614
This dismounted knights meme needs to stop

>>144871461
Doesn't have a LL.

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Stuntie filth how goes crossing out entries in your book of butt hurt?

>>144871904
You can't dismount cav on the tabletop, so I guess it translated the same way into Total Warhammer

>>144870683
holy shit archy is dumping lyrics so hot the ground is melting.

>>144871904
Streamlining, yo.
No loose formation either, spear and shield wall are now automatic effects under right conditions.

Can somebody try to figure out if there's a very specific breaking point for Archaon to spawn or if there's some random amount of turns around turn 100 involved?

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>>144872023
>thumbnail
Why you have to be such an AElf?

>>144872308
Ae...what?

>>144872415
Älf

>>144871904

Yeah, problably because of the setting. Same with formations and such. It's a very streamlined title and if you know nothing about WH then odds are the game is going to be disappointing.

Personally I have 157 hours played because I fucking love Warhammer.

>>144872415
It's an Age of Sigmar thing.

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>>144871461
They have the best grail.

>>144871965
>implying

Playing as VC. I swear, you go to war with the Greenskins for a couple turns and suddenly everybody wants to be your friend.

>>144870798
you can spread the Ikko faith for free troops and focus on getting income from your buildings

>>144872415
enjoy Age of Shitmar orruk

Why are so many people bad in MP? Spaghetti lines and bad army compositions as far as the eye can see. I'm playing VC, so it's a given that I outnumber the enemy, but they don't have to make it this easy to completely surround them. I don't even have to abuse spirit leech. Is it simply all the people who have newer played TW before?

>>144869419
We I gitz der... I'z gonna STAB!

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Things are going well this game, all the neighbouring clans have declared war on me after seeing my prosperity. I have become a trading super power. This war is good, i will be able to link my railway to all my provinces once i take out the Edo clan.

This income is getting out of hand though.

>>144871461
Red Duke/Blood Knight combo is going to be a blender like nothing else.

>>144873065
Why are you playing this useless clan?

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>>144873094
I-I can just hide here and ride this out, right? K-keep cool?

>Use a trainer for early game Dwarf VH campaign
>Cripple Orcs with a Godmode stack
>Go back to playing normally

This is the only way to enjoy VH/L

>>144869252
how do you teleport?

>>144873065
>army not composed with at least 50% gold accuracy armstrong guns
familia, why

>>144873013
>Spaghetti lines and bad army compositions as far as the eye can see
weird, all I see is Asshag on a wywern or spirit leach VC

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>>144873013
Did you seriously think that the bad AI total war always had wasn't just an accurate protrayal of the average user base? You lived a lie your whole life anon.

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>>144873065

We can now link our railway.

>>144873393

I like their starting position.

>>144873578

I mean i would but it feels kind of op desu. I might get 3 arm strongs and then 2 gatlings.

>>144873676
It is extremely OP. Don't if you still value fun. Still, Gatlings are very enjoyable; get them ASAP. Trains have got to be one of my favourite aspects of that game.

>>144873606
The only ones I have problem with are empire players, because they all seem to abuse FOTM units. I spam spirit leech back at them tbqh though.

so uh did anyone read Geneive books ? Silver nails to be precise.

Was Vukotach member of Voland's Venators?

rate most fun campaign from "most fun" to "empire"

Dorfs
VC
Greenfucks
Chaos
Empire

>come home from work
>still no patches

IT IS THE THIRD WEEK NOW. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>144874261
VC > Dwarf > Empire >>>>>>>>>>>> Chaos

Haven't played greenskins yet. Chaos campaign is just shit.

>>144874261
what is the issue with empire?

>>144873923
>The only ones I have problem with are empire players
funny I find them a bit easier to deal with than orcs which are the biggest pain in the butt, I think its because everyone knows that empires units are OP so bad players are more likely to play empire

it was quite a shock to me just how bad your average tw player is, whenever neither me nor the opponent is cheesing I win very easily, and I always considered myself bad, back in the day when I player warcraft I got smashed in like 60% of the games on battle.net, and in dow2, I barely won 50% of the games, often dipping below 50

total war players are really bad at micromanaging, even worse then me somehow

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S A Y M Y N A M E

Do VC units not get veterancy?

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>>144873431
i've won a few battles by just hiding. it works best if you spread your units across the map, all hiding in different sections of forest. it takes ages though and they might just attack you again next turn.

>>144874398
has one of the absolute shittiest starting positions on the entire map. Especially on higher difficulties where every fucking faction near you decides to declare war on you on a whim you are going to get raped from 5 sides while your empire is in open rebellion because of the massive public order penalty.

>>144874534
They do.

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man, campaigns are short as fuck compared to older total wars

>>144874401
It's like that for most games, wargame rd had the same issue, I found like 1 guy who had good infantry micro, the others usually relied on crutch units, often uneffectively

>>144874417
Why aren't they wiped out, isn't the losing army in the underway killed off completely?

Also how did that happen, you have dogshit for unit quality.

>>144869107
nice 1 anon

>>144874394

whats wrong with Chaos campaign ?

>>144874634
200 turns really isn't short.

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>>144874417

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>Its another "AI ignores all other factions and beelines for you" Very Hard campaign

>>144874769
it is if turns last 30 seconds

>>144874634

I hope the victory conditions will be expanded along with the map when the expansions come out.

>>144874861
>he autoresolved everything

>>144874401
Who are you playing as? I find orcs easy because I just cause mass routs with terror, but the good empire units take for ever to rout, and I have to dodge the damn witch hunters.

>>144874897
>battle time is turn time
>he doesn't autoresolve every battle against norse
also
>judging how people have fun

>>144874964
>Who are you playing as?
mostly chaos

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Clans are throwing their stacks into the meatgrinder.

>>144873880

Yeah i got gatlings their just making their way to my armies atm.

>>144875085
How do you make it work? I tried a few battles, but I didn't find any setups that don't get completely btfo if the enemy brings the wrong army setup.

>>144874756
Just way too fucking slow and methodical

>>144875031
>not suffering through the norscan battles

I bet you built autoresolve stacks to blow through Attila's hordes.

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i miss how varied this place used to be, with people talking about every total war instead of just warhammer, now you can't say a word about a different total war that you get stormed

>>144875236
>>144874756
Not to mention that awakening tribes is supposed to be your early game and even fun but is instead a pointless waste of time and actually hurts your campaign

>>144875343
>things that never happened: the post

>>144875236
>methodical

what does this buzzword mean

>>144875291
>suffering is fun
no thanks i play to enjoy it not to sit through 15 stacks of warhounds or horse archers

>>144875431
>denial: the post

>>144875343
It's like that with every release. Just wait.

Anyway, better this than total shitpost general

>>144875440
Slow as fuck.

>>144874261
Empire
VC
Dorf
Chaos
Greenshits

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>>144870976
Meh, I've posted here before occasionally. Here, have a brawl on me.

>>144875440
Consult a dictionary, you pathetic retard.

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>>144875487
honestly i kind of miss the old shitposting

archaon is turk

>>144875389
Yeah, I was expecting good things seeing that the Varg and Skaeling clans absolutely rape the north in other campaigns with a non-stop stream of 20/20 stacks but the awakened clans do fuckall.

>>144875431
If you're talking about the
>people talking about every total war instead of just warhammer,
you're just flat out wrong. Back when Rome 2 came out, you'd get discussions about everything from R1 to R2, along with a good number of obscure mods. It was a significantly more varied general.

Give it a few months maybe. It might be because of all the new people this game has bought to the franchise. They've just no experience of the old games / nothing to contribute.

>>144875031
if you willingly skip out the majority of the game you can't really complain about the duration of it

>>144875872
because norse is totally the majority of the game, what the fuck are you smoking

>>144874660
i'm not sure. i was the one being attacked if that's relevant.

fucked all their reinforcements before their main army got to me then held the line with my boyz whilst i routed their quarrellers with concentrated missile and doom diver fire. used boar boyz to destroy their grudgethrower and to charge into the back of their infantry when they were winning in an area. killed Thorgrim early with Grimgor and black orcs.

>>144874261
Greenskins (early game is one constant fight after another, only faction where I didn't mind that much losing territory since it makes it feel propah orc to be constantly winning them and losing them)
Empire (you're surrounded by potential enemies, allies and plenty of opportunities to expand. Pretty much anything could happen)
VC (Fun army, fun faction, strong as fuck economy with few provinces and unique playstyle in campaign map)
Chaos (Nice feeling of army of doom marching through the north and then the Old World, but the army and horde management isn't that fun)
Dorfs (boring as fuck playstyle, need to turtle a lot early, and even then chances are Grimgor will show up with three full stacks while you still can only support one)

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Mousillon will grow larger.

>>144875929
if you are saying the game is short but you auto-resolve your battles then you are wilfully skipping the majority of it and so your point makes no sense.

>>144875725
Most of the "discussion" about older titles during the attila period was limited to memes and shitposting and you know it. At every new release the threads get "floodded" by an "invasion" of "new players" that supposedly are all newfags and know nothing about the older games, because obviously if you post about the newest entry in a series you can only know that and nothing else.

Anyway, where are the instances of discussion of older games "stormed" by the barbaric masses of newfags? This is the usual, old and tired example of one guy going

>HURR WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER STUFF ANYMORE
>no actually you totally can, here, go ahead
>*SILENCE*
>thread needs to be bumped

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>>144875230
>How do you make it work?
mostly by being matched against retards, though I also find great weapon marauders and poison doggos to be pretty good value

chaos units being pretty overpriced isnt the main problem, the big problem is that chaos is very vulnerable to the
>lets fly azhag over their line and spam spirit leach
tactic, unless of course you take a death sorc yourself, but fighting cheese with cheese is boring. The game has no ladder, or ELO, or whatever, yet people still cheese all the time, its a shame. Its in a way a prisoners dilemma

>>144876125
again what the fuck are you smoking i only auto resolve norse
god damn it you faggots just jump to conclusions and read only what you want to read

also i'm pretty sure that even if i autoresolved every single battle i'd be pretty fucking entitled to do so because it's my game

My Empire campaign is pretty much over thanks to the reinforcement bug. I'm standing with Karl and a supporting army in that chokepoint to the Badlands, Orcs in front. However, two of their armies spawn right in my back and before my own reinforcements.

Now I can't retreat or beat that fight which will cause a flood of 7 Orc stacks ready to go.

Units are going completely mental on that fight too and will not attack or kill anything.

>>144876446
>also i'm pretty sure that even if i autoresolved every single battle i'd be pretty fucking entitled to do so because it's my game
"this game is too short when i skip most of it but don't point that out because it's my game and i choose to make it short but yeah the game is too short"

>>144876446
Yeah, but what you wouldn't be entitled to is complaining that your campaign was short

>>144876502
there is one solution, that worked for me give me a moment and I'll draw a crude paint picture

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696183332&searchtext=

>someone felt the need to buff steam tanks
>overhall

What's up with the horrible RNG in Total Warhammer?

I've got a bunch of fucking Chaos assholes running around Reiksland, and my Priest of Sigmar seems unable to kill them despite him being level 10 and them all being level 1-3.

I got frustrated after a few turns and save scumed like 25 times and never once got any different outcome.

Such bullshit. How do I get these fucking Chaos fags out of my realm?

>>144876690
oh my God it's like you don't read at all, just choke on a dick

>>144876708
i wouldn't, that's the imperative word, wouldn't, because i don't autoresolve everything, unlike what that faggot up there believes

>>144876894

>I got frustrated after a few turns and save scumed like 25 times and never once got any different outcome.

You DO know that save scumming for agent actions doesn't work, right?

It has nothing to do with bad RNG, you're just getting the exact same roll every time.

>>144876834
>Man I really liked steam tanks but as a 40k player they weren't enough like IG tanks for me, so I just made it into a Leman Russ

I'm angry

>>144876502
>>144876716
fuck I cant draw, I'll just describe it:

lump your army into the corner of the map farthest away from the enemy reinforcements, the moment the battle starts run your army in the the corner of the map right in front of them, basically run them into the enemy deployment zone while running your reinforcements there as well

as long as your units stay far enough from the enemy, he will not attack and will just gather his force into a blob in your deployment zone

>>144876894
Install the balanced agents mod, gets rid of the hidden bonus % to succeed and bonus % to evade actions for higher level agents. The AI cheat levels its agents, so they will always be higher level than your agents, even if you dump your entire economy into agent actions every single turn.

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>tfw a stronger faction makes you their bitch and constantly declares war while hey send their 20 stacks over your territory where they could instantly turn on you and sack all your settlements but don't because they like you

>>144876372
Damn, that's a shitty Empire army, and it also looks like he barely used his cannons at all. They should have at least 60 kills each.

What graphics cards are everybody using and how is the performance?

>>144877042
Oh, I mostly just got fed up because my Priest literally cannot seem to kill or injure the Chaos fags.

>>144877095
The Chaos agents are all level 1-3 though, I feel like I should be steamrolling them

>>144877120
hahahah i saw that comp on reddit/4chanmemes to ! hahaha
what is your skype friend ? perhaps we can exchange memes and play a game of lol sometime ? :))))))

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>>144876690
>most
I didn't know the Old World was overwhelmingly Norscan.

>>144877236
Oh. Idk, maybe get the increased agent success penalty mod, it won't help you kill em faster, but it will make it so they can't spend every turn chain assassinating your guys while you continue to fail at your actions.

>>144877298

(You)

>>144877236
You're not supposed to use priests for assassination, that's what witch hunters are for.

>>144876372
That empire army is fucking terrible, no handguns or crossbows? Seriously?

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>>144877164
he was fighting the VC's who tied up his arty with bats, I was deployed on the left side of the battlefield and fought bretonians for most of the battle, after I quickly killed them me and the VC at the centre finished off Empire, the biggest letdown for them was the dorf player, he was too passive and allowed the two VC's to focus Empire with all their flying shit, while blocking him off with some cheap meatshields

I'm going to go h2h campaign against a friend, as chaos. Is it worse subjugating the norsemen or should I just roll south?

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>>144876834
>overhall
>frendly
>I just want muh Leman Russ in Fantasy

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>>144877094
How could they fuck this up so badly though?

>at wagecuck
>reading thread
>just want to play

hold me

>>144873521
There's a button on the quest page

>>144875343

Nigger, please, it's like that when any new TW is released.

>>144877373

Or get the mod that disables aggressive actions for AI agents. Obviously makes the game easier, but goddamn if it didn't more fun.

>>144877725
I didn't want to go right to recommending that one because it's a pretty brutal solution to the problem. Didn't want to go right to amputation if something else could work for him, but yeah, this works too.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699535774&searchtext=
>those longass names
>dat toot toot

>>144877596
well they have admitted that its a bug so hopefully they'll fix it next patch

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Bye everchosen, you will be missed.

>>144877932
Stirland Bestland

>>144876105

what mod

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>>144877980
Another doomdiver victim

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>>144877120
>that double clavicle

>>144877562
That's why I play only 1v1. I have only myself to rely on. If I lose I don't have anyone to blame, and it's easier to see if I did anything wrong. Also, the only one that can rage quit is my opponent, and that gives me a win.

>>144878202
why do the gobbos agree to this?

>>144878424
Because its fun, duh

>when your manticore/griffon does that "fly around in a big aerial attack circle and knock everyone the fuck over" attack in the middle of a big melee

Medium flyers truly are the best flyers.

>>144875389
Yeah, it's actually way more efficient to just walk around the empire than to take the tribes. Got a turn 70 legendary victory by just rushing the objectives.

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>7/8 people ready up
>one guy afk
>lobby disbands

>>144878424
They aren't exactly what you would call mentally stable. It's still more sane than shaving stunties and wearing their beards in an effort to infiltrate them.

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>>144878404
well it was a quick battle match up, before that battle I didnt even know it could match up more than 1v1

>>144878424
Gobbos almost die in droves in battle anyway. Why not go out in style, flying through the air and punching the enemy lord superman style?

>>144877000
your response to somebody accusing you of auto-resolving everything was:
>judging how people have fun
which implies that you auto-resolve everything. convey what you are saying clearly in the future.

>>144878424
the game says there is no shortage of maniacs among the goblins. remember these are the guys who get hopped up on shrooms and banzai charge their own lines with a ball and chain.

>>144877120
I want to fuck that girl

Meloncat you started on the celts yet or still busy with warhammer? If you have any preview pics please post em here or TWC.

>>144878669
>girl

>>144878634
or maybe people should read the whole post instead

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>>144878669
>girl

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There's shitposting, and then there's shitmodding
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696101146&searchtext=

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>>144878901
looks imperial as fuck

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>>144878669
>g
>i
>r
>l

>>144878852
post more often incasebro

>>144878901
Literally nothing wrong with this.

He just wanted some weird purple on his empire, there're already a bunch of lore-friendly recolor mods for the counts.

>>144877120
sauce

>>144878901
whats wrong with that mod? Purple is the imperial colour

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>>144875093

It's time Japan was united without the Shogunate or Emperor. It's the only way to progress.

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>>144878901
lit as fuck breh

Skaven soon!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfsZhYiCNfA

>>144875725
>Back when Rome 2 came out, you'd get discussions about everything from R1 to R2

Back when Rome 2 came out anyone posting Rome 2 got flooded by a tribe of retards calling it shit

It wasn't until the webm saviours came that the place truly diversified and showed the nostalgiafaggots out

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>tfw both Grimgor's waaagh from the south, Vampires from the East, Vargs from the North and Mousillon from the West invade your empire

>>144879696
>orcs
>getting past Grenzstadt
>VC
>existing

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>they will never figure out how to make ship combat interesting with total war mechanics
>they will never make a pirate/colonial america/england-era game
>they will never let us get the legendary lord blackbeard unit
>there will never be an anne bonny legendary lord
>we will never be pirates

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>>144880064
>we will never be pirates
We'll just have to make do with Bannerlord lol never mods.

>>144880064
Good, fuck pirates, overrated cunts.

>>144880064

Ship combat will NEVER be interesting because to apply real life ship military tactics it would require hours of maneuvering

>>144880064
You'll have to settle for games like Caribbean or the new Warhammer ship game.

>>144880064
I had fun with ship combat in the gunpowder games. It wasn't perfect, but more than adequate to entertain me.

>>144870237
The basic warriors are okay.

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>>144879485

Here it comes.

>tfw no asoiaf total war with a good engine

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>>144879509
Best furries sooner.

god i hate greenskins

>>144880309
I hate Realm Divide so much, it kills every interest in replaying Shogun. Every previously steadfast ally will declare on you for no reason, 10 factions boat bombing you 10 turns behind you, it is fucking awful and annoying.

>>144880389
asoiaf is more fit for CKII with the intrigue and incest involved

>>144880064

>ship combat interesting

Napoleon/Empire/FotS is pretty interesting.

Naval battles in FotS with Ironclads are actually really fun.

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This game is comfy

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>>144880309

Their goes all my Shogunate infantry, this will take awhile replacing them. I feel the calm before the storm.

>>144880716
What difficulty?

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Poor little Breton guy

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>>144880394
>designated shitting forests
I can hardly wait.

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Is there a way for any of the 4 standard races to colonize or re-settle chaos ruins?

If not, could a chaos player basically deny other factions their cities after razing and "corrupting" them?

Is it true there're files about Wood elves in the game? Like unit data, etc...

>>144880394
>>144880959

Beastmen aren't even interesting.

Spiky guys with teeth and horns, no ranged units, melee only. "Fun".

Dominions did the beastman concept much better with Pangea.

>>144881138
only some animation files

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>>144880716

All of my trading ports are being BTFO and rebellions are spawning left and right, half my provinces are void of taxes to keep things under control. We will have to just wait it out and survive the winter.

RIP income

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>>144881171
>no ranged units
Why would you lie anonymously on the internet?

>>144881026
Only Norsca ruins

Human ruins stay ruins no matter the corruption level

>>144881026
If it matches your race, you can settle in chaos-ruined places just fine.

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>>144881171
>no ranged units

>>144881171
Fuck, now I want to play Dominions

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>>144881171
>Stop liking things that I don't like!
Piss off, I enjoy my forest hooligans.

>>144869906
How many hordes do you have

>>144881774
4 hordes at turn 66

>>144873065
>aizu
> no kachi/shogitai

Anyone here with a high ranking on the leaderboards? I fought my way up to top 1000 pretty easily just today, but I'm wondering how easy it is to get to top 300. If I do that I'll be satisfied I think.

>Just bought Warhammer
>Honestly can't choose between Empire or Vampire as my first playthrough
Which one is fun?

how do I overcharge spells ?

>>144882378
Empire is more complicated because your starting position is pretty shitty in terms of diplomacy. VC is more straight-forward.

>>144881962
FUCKING HOW

I expand to one more horde and the income is minus 5k or some shit bringing me down to bankrupt poor in a few turns

>>144882435

click twice on the spell

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>volleying down a charge of Chaos Trolls mid-charge with three Handgunner regiments

>>144882538
You're supposed to have negative income as Chaos. Sacking more than makes up for it. I had -4.5k income for most of my chaos campaign and I was swimming in sacking money.

>>144882538
Are you sacking shit before razing them? I have 120k in the bank with negative 11k income.

>>144882714
>volleying down an entire army from atop the battlements of my castle with handgunners and mortars

Truly do you not have enough defensive siege battles.

>>144881171
Does poop flinging count as ranged?

>Want to mod the look of some troops
>Mousillanon has inspired me to give it a try
>Never modded anything before
>Don't even have the game yet
I really don't know how I feel about this feel.

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>>144882865
>shooting a giant in the face point-blank with cannons

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>>144878293
>anime anatomy

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What do? I've only one army, on Legendary.
why are 4 armies coming for me ples

>>144882865
i would if the ai didn't wait out anything but a 95% chance to win

Are there any hilariously stupid imbalances in Warhammer, like with slingers in Rome 2 or yari ashigaru in Shogun 2?

>>144882378
Empire by a huuuuugggggeeeee fucking margin. VC are tedious as fuck.

>>144883428
demigryphs

>>144883428
Yes.

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>best elves still not announced

>>144883428
>not MLG spearmen

>>144883376
That's Empire Legendary for you.

Good luck.

>>144883428
demigryphs

>>144883395
>mfw I just had a defensive siege battle against 1 1/2 of a greenskin army that consisted almost entirely of cav, mounted archers and monster
>while I had a full stack in my garrison to boot

Don't know what's wrong with autoresolve giving me a 30% chance for victory, nor do I know what devil had ridden the orcs to try taking my city manually, but it certainly was fun

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>>144883142
>shooting my girlfriend in the face point-blank with my sperm cannon

>>144882043
is mp actually a thing? Isn't it broken as fuck?

>>144883376
Bend over and let it happen, it'll be easier for you if you don't resist

>>144883652
balance is okay

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>>144883303
It's not that bad.

>>144883376
Why are you posting shots from the Australians cunts campaign?

>>144883395
I feel like they should give different factions AI specific behavior in terms of willingness to fight outnumbered. Greenskins should basically be super retarded and charge you no matter the circumstances. Empire factions apply skirmish tactics and are more keen on starving out their enemies and cutting off strategically important settlements instead of trying to fight you head on (so basically how the current AI behaves). Norsca try to set ambushes in your province or raid.

Just give every faction their own unique behavior. I feel like during my entire legend Empire campaign I had maybe 5 worthwhile manual battles, the rest was just auto-resolving a bunch of small-stack armies with like 3 units that kept running away from me until I ambushed them.

>>144880203

What mod?

>>144883627
Overrated. Yes they're a very good cav but they don't win battles on their own other than against shit Goblins.

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>>144883142

>tfw the lore for Great Cannons retells a story of a gunner beheading a dragon mid-flight with a cannon

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>>144881990

I have a couple of those units in some of my armies i just didn't build many traditional buildings and i don't feel like railing them all around.

>>144881356

Slowly surviving the winter, shit is getting hektic. Armies are moving in from all over and my ports are getting attacked every turn. Should have built a bigger navy.

>>144883428
>Irongamebreakers

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>beat the remnants of Archaons Stack in Kislev
>venture north to meet up with my Dawi Cousins
>this guy is just about to slap their shit
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlcheT4Q8M4

Prepare to fight, if we die, we die with honour!

>>144881765

I bet you've never even touched a girl haha

Strength and honor

>>144884029
Warsword Conquest.

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>>144883428

>yari ashigaru
>decent outside of spear wall

You ever go up against AI stacks full of Bow Samurai?

>>144879509
Goddamn did that game have the most unique music ever. I love it.

Also sadly not soon if the rumours are true - I think they're set to come out in a standalone expansion with the lizardmen.

>>144884457
Why the actual fuck would they come in the same expansion as lizardmen?

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why does the attacker think I'll come to him?

>>144884442
Yari ASHE are the best unit in the game, especially with additional armor.

>>144883652
There are some very clear issues, but I have seen far worse in a game on launch.

>>144884556
The fuck is going on with your formation.

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>>144884552
>Why the actual fuck would they come in the same expansion as lizardmen?
Are you baiting?

>>144884556
unless they were painstakingly rearranging reinforcements, I've never had an offensive battle where they didn't attack

>>144884552
muh clan pestilence

>>144884634

I love Ashigaru, so much hope, so much confidence.

>YARI MEIJIN!

I wish there was an option to upgrade them with better equipment.

>>144884763
what do you mean anon, that is the classic Franz.

>>144884305
>northren dwarves surviving chaos
damn impressive
what turn are you on ?

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>play as Empire
>Vampires defeated
>Greenskins have conquered almost all dwarf & greenskin territory, 30+ settlements, about 8 full stacks
>declare war on me
>Chaos, Skaeling and other shits at war up north with me
>me fighting Stirland, Averland to consolidate all the lands south
>meanwhile Lyonnaise out of fucking nowhere declares war on me and sacks Bastonne

What the fuck did the Frenchman just do, we had like 90 relations and full treaties and he just didn't care

>>144884836
DA LEVY IS READY SIRRRRR

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>>144884806
I guess it was because of the expendable dogs they tried using at the sides--now they come.
time to get fugged by horsecav

>>144884774
No, just answer. From what I gather from simple google searching the lizardmen are in South America across a goddamn ocean, whereas the rodents are just south of the current map. In that case it would make fuckall sense to put them in the same expansion.

>>144885151
>time to get fugged by horsecav
I actually put a mod up that reduces their speed to normal cav level.

Jesus christ the Orcs are so much worse than Chaos. Sure, if you get lucky they're getting wiped out early but a Grimgor sitting on all the Badlands with endless WAAAGHS is just fucking obnoxious as all hell.

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>>144885092

>holding off an entire army with 5 units of YariAshi in spear wall
>mfw

I have a question about formation/unit depth in Warscape games (Shogun 2 in this case) am I better off with long thin units in spear walls or square formations? Also guard mode Y/N?

>>144884379

Oh, shit. They actually finished it? Looks like I have my weekend planned out.

>>144885151
>unshielded Spearmen

I'm being triggered right now, somebody call the social police.

>>144885303
yes
fucking green stacks on stacks

>>144885303
Even the norscans are worse than chaos. Chaos is just four armies, two of them weak and they can't even hole up in castles to make fighting them troublesome. It's really not a big deal. Any faction with decent economy presents a bigger challenge than Chaos.

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>>144885465

There is literally no reason to get shielded spearmen, 30% missible block from the front is not worth the upkeep

>Attila or Rome 2 endturn times after playing Warhammer

I just can't.

>>144885580
>and then the quarrelers start shooting

>>144885580
Have fun telling that to your shieldless spearmen's widows you sick bastard

>>144884836
>I wish there was an option to upgrade them with better equipment.
iirc the TROM3 mod allows you to unlock upgraded yari ashigaru.

>>144885284
>simple google searching
That's your problem then. The rats are everywhere thanks to all the tunnels and they've had quite a long history with the lizards. It makes perfect sense for them to come together, especially because otherwise you just have the lizardmen isolated in brazil, hueing themselves to death.

>>144885612
>Rome2's release endturn times.

I don't know how my friend and I got as far as we did playing a coop campaign. That shit was brutal.

>capcha is 1984.
Oh shi

>>144869252
>occupy all

>>144885649
>>144885671
MORE MEAT FOR THE GRINDER

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>>144885847

>tfw Europe is literally turning into 1984

>>144885709

I liked TROM3 but I don't like mods that add more factions. Turn times long as fuck.

Is regional occupation Chaos Warriors fun? Wondering if it means less tiptoeing through the tulips as your army isn't everything you have, and the bonus income could be nice.

>>144885557
I'd really prefer if they shifted some of the Norscan stacks over to chaos. Varg and Skaeling spamming about 6 stacks each while chaos only has 4 is silly.

>>144886474
But they are pretty much Chaos.

>>144886474
how do they even manage to shit so many armies at once, i can't take down a stack of norscans that i get 3 more stacks back in a couple of turns

Can Empire conquer Bretonnian lands?

What about the stuff further south like Estalia and Tilea or what they're called? And Border Princes?

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>No peace, just Warhammer: Total War!

Are we going to get a Mousillon DLC?
Oh and what mods do I need besides Mousillon undead+Playable minor factions for the true Mousillon expriance?