/twg/ - Total War General

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Ahhh Altdorf… the eternal city

SUMMON

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Any reason to use pistoleers?

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crazy battle holy shit.

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HAPPENING STATUS: NOW

Mousillon ONLY reskin now out
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699310314

go hard or go home lads

>>144772417
great work senpai

it's going to be a blast when Bretonnia will be playable

>>144772301
THIS MEME DOES NOT HAVE MY CONSENT

>>144771381
>MilkandCookiestotalwar
Already seen most if not all his CoW visa :(

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>>144772373
>1 FPS

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KINO
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>>144772323
annoying your opponent in multiplayer

>>144772417

I don't get it which one of your mods should I download to have moussilon and just moussilon reskinned?

>>144772373
whats the point of using slayers? You'll just have to recruit them again

>Play anybody other than Empire
>Stomp around effortlessly, basically autopiloting around even on VH difficulty until it gets boring and I quit.

>>144772373
please tell me this isn't your normal army composition but confederation leftovers hastily thrown together to combat chaos

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Posting faction stuff again give me some (You)s

>>144772323
>first time total war player detected

you need light cav to run down routing infantry
they are also good at cheesing the ai since they'll chase them with an orc warboss or whatever

>>144772904
I had recently confederated, it was one of the confederated factions armies. I didn't think i'd win desu those cannons were super handy.

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>>144772983

>>144772902
the one I just released anon. as it says in its description.

>>144772518
cheers anon

>>144772983

Lizardmen Con is lack of any tech.

>>144772579
>visa
*videos

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WHEN

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>>144772983
>all those neatly organised factions
>now we have this for order alone

>>144772972
see >>144773049

>>144773245
some of em are unfinished, i simply found em on /tg/

>>144773032
>running down infantry with light cav
have you even played the game ? they do next to nothing in melee , even against routing units

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>>144772117
Rollan!

>>144773191
here we see what i believe will be the main mechanic of the woodelves, their goal is like the vamps to spread their "corruption" by growing trees all over the place and ambushing the shit out of others

>>144772417
Fuck man, I had taken Mousillon out a couple dozen turns ago, and just had an great war with Estalia. Now I'm going to have to restart just to see your work

>>144773719
haha, well anon
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=690580791

that isn't mine but it unlocks Mousillon for custom battles. go hard

ok how do I get a cav line to charge in formation without arrow-heading one target?

I know that you group them then alt click through the enemy, but when I do that they dont charge, they just run at the same pace towards the enemy, they dont do the jump and pounce at the last moment thing

pls send help.

>>144772417
nice work modder kun

>>144774150
If you put them in a group (G hotkey) and right click the enemy line, they will logically charge what ever is in front of them.

>>144774150
Put them in a group then click the lock symbol then right click the enemy.

>>144774437
>>144774354
Thanks senpaitachi

>>144774150
Hold down control when pressing g to form a group. This will lock them in formation and cause an attack-move command when you tell them to attack. Do note you need to select the entire group and attack for this to work.

>>144774575
Thanks famalamadingdong

>>144774150
>>144774437

You dont have to click the lock symbol, just CTRL + G

>>144772983

>Dark elves

>Pros
...

>Cons
...

The fuck kind of list is this?

>>144774668
You need to tell them to keep running if you just want to run them down other wise they will just stop and attack.

Note this only works if their charge manages to knock the enemy unit on their arses.

>>144772585
It's always 1fps on loading screens man, have you never noticed that before?

How noob friendly is this game? I want to get into a good strategy game, and while I don't want to be overwhelmed, I want a lot of content and mechanics.

>>144772983
Do you think they will implement the double rank attack for the high elves?

>>144775120
takes a few hours to get your head around the campaign. battles are easy to learn

>>144775120
You will need around 2-3 restarts to have it figured out.

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>tfw fighting this army
>with no cav
ANOTHER GRUDGE FOR THE DAMMAZ KRON

>>144775120
If you have patience and actually try to read and remember what the adviser says, you'll do fine.

I think the most important thing to learn is that battles actually require you to put your army into formations and that the battles are kinda 'realistic' in the sense of friendly fire is a thing, so try not to have your archers fire into the back of your own men and such.

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poor little white boy

>>144775120
>I want a lot of content

Better play Rome 2, or Attila for that. Warhammer is really lacking at the moment.

>Fighting Marienburg as Empire.
>Their full stack is 60% just fucking pistoliers because Marienburg are FAGGOTS.
>Lay an ambush on them and most of the pistoliers still survive despite having surrounded them and put all my ranged unit to focus fire on them because pistoliers are FAGGOTS.
>End up wasting my fucking time and I lose more units that I should have because those FAGGOTS won't stop being annoying fucktards.
>Still manage to defeat stack, but have to retreat for a bit to recover my casualties.
>Same turn another Marienburg stack comes down and sieges me while I'm recovering.
>12 units of FAGGOT pistoliers.

Fuck you Marienburg and fuck everyone who uses pistoliers, it's not even a good tactic it's just annoying as fuck and doesn't even let me autoresolve the battle.

>>144775120
Don't listen to any memers who tell you to play Rome 2

>>144775120
This game is designed to bring in new players and has a very low skill ceiling. You just make an army, go fight, right click their guys, and watch the action. The only thing you need to think about is balancing your income with your armies and diplomatic situation.

>>144776336

Just take the town and let them rot in attrition.

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> how do you want your mod feedback senpai?

> just fuck my shit up

>>144776745
oh jesus

What happens if they run out of pages in the book of Grudges?

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>>144776745

Jesus fuck

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Johnny Cash the duelist strikes again

no modding or cheating was involved in the result, just the fire ring bug again

>>144776572
Oh fantasyfags...

>>144776745
whats with the random java script shit

>>144776951
Bad English I guess

>>144776918
I saw you post this days ago and was able to try it out, that doesn't happen with the fire ring in my game. Definitely a bug from a mod you mod scummer.

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>>144776918

>>144776572
yes just forget about army placement, army composition, agent spam, town building composition, tall vs short expansion

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>>144777091
>modding is bad
go home EA
or maybe you were not lucky enough, it only happened twice to me

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/mirrors-edge-catalyst-and-geforce-gtx-1070-game-ready-driver-released

>And with regards to Total War: Warhammer, the new GeForce Game Ready 368.39 WHQL drivers introduce several changes ahead of a game update. For further details please stay tuned to Creative Assembly's social media channels.

What did they mean by this?

>>144777237
>>144776572
corruption management, public order, settlement defence

>>144772417
>be CA
>factions have multiple liege lords
>don't give them multiple starts and starting positions, just give them one starting position in one area

I'm guessing that in the long run "Empire nations" "Dwarf nations" "Greenskin tribes" and "Undead factions" will be different DLCs for things like Mousillon

>>144777237
Exactly, that is part of the fun of the game, none of that shit matters. I've been massing spearmen and invading everyone while still having enough money to build my settlement main buildings when the growth triggers.

>>144773325
>some of those factions have less than 5 models

I'm guessing it's because "Order" counts as one big team on the tabletop so you can mix and match whatever factions you want

>be GW
>don't release "collectors edition" models of WHFB miniatures for people to "discover the models"

It's like they hate money

>>144777568
then you are playing on easy and if you say otherwise you are lying

>>144777723

Nah probably just abusing autocalc

>>144775813
>rock throwers will wipe out your whole army

That wouldn't actually happen would it?

>>144777723
Nah I'm playing on hard. Why is the game suppose to be super hard? Am I just some kind of gaming genius?

>>144772417
>http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=699310314
Sorry for being late to the party here, so with this mod, should I unsub from your other mods (mousillon vampire counts reskin and mousillon zombie reskins)?

Cheers mate!

>>144778002

Because you can't win battles with just spearmen unless you do nothing but autocalculate everything, you can show battle stats to prove you win with spearmen

>>144777721
>I'm guessing it's because "Order" counts as one big team on the tabletop so you can mix and match whatever factions you want
even better anon there are no more factions just talk to your opponent bring what you want :^)
i'm not kidding this is actually the rule now

>>144778227
Just get the honest steel skill and they shred. Dummy.

You can also get recruit them at rank 5+ in provinces with woodworkers.

>>144777721

GW has hated money for over a decade, their new CEO is bro though and is working on making Warhammer Great Again.

The problem is Age of Sigmar already happened. You can't abandon it too early or it'll shake consumer confidence in your product, you can't support it too much because it's a huge fucking flop. You just have to drag it along for a few years then kill it off and never mention it again

Like the Xbox One

>>144778391
Why even have factions then?

>chaos demons of sigmar!

>>144778503
Doesn't the honest steel thingy only affect units in the lords aura?

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>>144777864
>play a 3v3 mp battle with randoms
>enemy team has aprox 15 units of artillery
>they all focus my army

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>>144778614
No.

>>144778662
Should have brought bats. The added bonus is the make your enemy drop frames giving you a tactical advantage.

>>144778614
Nope, any spearmen, swordsmen and halberds in the same army as him get +12 attack and defense.

Warhammer a good place to jump in if you've never played Total War? I'm penniless currently so I can't exactly play any time soon but I'm still curious.

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>>144778510
>their new CEO is bro though

yeah, deleting Bretonnia and Tomb Kings, alongside any major characters, was pretty bro-tier

>>144779553

It's as good as any TW

Well, maybe not Empire

>>144779553
Yes, it is the best total war out of the newer gen ones. Med2 and the first rome are good but have aged.

Around what turn should I invest in another General as Chaos? I've got 80,000 banked right now on turn 20.

I thought this game had Zombie Dragons and Chaos Dragons? How do I unlock those?

>>144779605
That's Age of Sigmar's fault, not his. Literally nothing from AOS is selling, and Bretts and TK were already undersold in terms of fantasy so they were cut. Honestly it's better to die than live on in Age of Sigmar

Betrayal at Calth, a single fucking box made GW more money than the entire line of Age of Sigmar.

>>144779824
Generic chaos lords can get dragon mounts. It takes for fuckin ever tho

>>144779605
That was the last CEO, Age of Sigmar and the murder of Bretts and Tomb Kings was his last act as CEO.

>be Orcs
>Lootan', thumpan 'eads, and gettin' the boyz together.
>Starting to launch raids and WAAAAAGHs! into 'umie landz.
>Chaos Boyz show up an' think they're gun' stomp us and the 'umies into bitz.
>All the remaining 'umies and Stuntiez ally themselves as the gits of """""""""civuluhzationz"""""""""""

>10 full stacks from the rainbow 'umie and stuntie alliance start stompin' and krumpin' me boyz in the Badlands
>Chaos Boyz havin' a field day.

oh zog it

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>>144779605

>deleting Bretonnia

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>>144780013

>'umies 'nd stunties crumpin' orcs 'nd not chaos boyz
>top notz boyz still 'avin a WAAGH wif uva boyz

dis iz a roight propah mess dis iz

>>144779953

>lvl 26

I don't think I've ever gotten non-legendary lords above 21, and that's ignoring the fact that Chaos has very, very few lords because of hordes

is it wrong of me to play on very hard campaign diff and then turn battle difficulty down to normal?

seems like if I don't think Karl Franz gets clobbered by enemy lords in two hits.

I need help with chaos campaign, as soon as I start I can destroy 1 kislev city and that's it, he comes with more than 1 stack and kills my awakened tribe, also skaeling and varg beeline towards me, same as Karak drak. How come the AI starts with them as vassals but you start in war against the whole map and 2 10 region norsca superpowers instead of multiple small tribes that you could awaken?
Am I supposed to spend 50 turns sacking frozen landing or just play in normal?

>>144772983

>>144773191


cool work anon

>>144780710
not at all. Play the game how you like.

>>144780719
>Am I supposed to spend 50 turns sacking frozen landing

probably. In the real campaign chaos doesn't spawn till 50 turns in.

>>144780924
but it already has varg and skaeling doing work against empire instead of chasing me like a fucking attila AI.

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>FotS
>defending against Rebels
>only 5 spear levy left
>5 fucking men
>enemy only has 5 men too
>they're general bodyguards tho
>charge them
>4 of them die in the charge and the last one loses to RNG against a fucking spear revy
>the garrison infantry has 400+ kills
>mfw

>>144779983
Why was Kirby such a heartless and idiot cunt?

>Projected to lose a battle badly because of reinforcements
>Start the battle and the enemy reinforcements are coming in from behind my deployment
>Literally chase them off the playing field as they enter it

Reinforcement points are so broken what the hell

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one and only repost in case someone missed the knights of the Blazing Sun

>>144756469

>>144780719
Whatever you do with the northerners will probably be destroyed by the human kingdoms either way, so treat it as a training ground to level up your guys and build up money. As for general gameplay, you have to kind of be a huge coward as Chaos. When the stacks start coming at you, click on them to see their movement radius and run beyond it. When you get some breathing room, raid or go after undefended settlements. Stay on the run and hit where you can.

>>144781183
good shit

>>144773528
Rollin rollin rollin!

>>144781115

Because the company was taken over by suits who only cared about the bottom line and all the people who made the settings what they were left.

Basically what happens to every company if it gets big

ogres when

warhammer says all the mods are outdated but they arent what gives?

>>144781997
Publicly traded companies are pure cancer.

Fuck I can't believe I fell for the TW:WH meme

This game is bland as fuck
Now we'll have to pay 50€+ to make the game at the very least enjoyable

>>144772575
BY THE HAMMER, HAMMER THEM!

am I understanding them wrong or are the basic state troops actually saying that?

>>144782513
Well, that and obsession with growth over profits and being way to short sighted.

>>144782627
did you just disagree with the common opinion here?
get ready for the autism storm, people can't comprehend that warhammer can be judged badly

>>144782627
>buying CA games after Empire

>>144782627
>This game is bland as fuck
Wow, you're having pretty shit taste

jk, it's ok to have a wrong opinion

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>>144782627
found the trump voter

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My Legendary campaign, turn 22. 3 turns away from being able to recruit Grratswords.

Marienburg killed Brettonia and is currently sending an army to Nordland. It makes me think I should let them so they can form the bulwark against the looming chaos invasion. Is this a good idea?

What do I do here? I have non aggression pacts with everyone around me besides Marienburg, Middenland, Nordland

>>144782627
just refund it

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>>144782627
Its the least bland game yet. sounds like total war isnt for you.

>>144782787
WHY ARE YOU EVEN HERE THEN

>>144782779
Well, you called it

>>144782914
>Letting secessionists run rampant on your Empire.

BE A FUCKING EMPEROR AND DESTROY MARIENBURG

>>144782787
>missing out on the best the series has to offer

>>144782789
>>144782915
>>144782925
Warhammerfags need to go back >>>/tg/

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>>144782914
there's only one thing to do

>>144783002
pretty easy to call this one

>>144783136
Sorry, but Total War and Warhammer are one and the same thing now :^)

>>144782914
I think they're gonna declare war on you before they become the bulwark or anything. Fight them and become best friends with Nordland.

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>>144782627

>Warhammer
>Bland

>>144783172
>not turn 10

>>144783136
uh i don't like the game all that much either. just refund it retard

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>>144773528
Greenskins with Grimgor, Chaos with Sigvald and Empire with the Franz down, gimme something good!

>>144783172

>turn 73
>6 settlements

What the fuck are you even doing

>>144783327
i camped in reikland getting my economy and army up to elite levels just to stomp them into the ground

>>144782779
>people can't comprehend that warhammer can be judged badly
Or that Rome 2 is better than Rome 1
Or that Med 2 was OK
Or that the series has been going down hill since Rome 1

>>144782789
>>144782898
>>144782925

>muh FIVE RACES

Fuck right off

>>144783289
Never said that Warhammer was bland, TW:WH is. Of course once the trilogy will be finished + all the DLC it will be good, but it will cost 200€ at the very least. And people are actually defending this

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>>144783423
Time to settle some grudges!

>>144772417
do you have the pics of your qt vamps?

>>144783102
>>144782937

>being this trigerred

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>>144783608

>TW:WH
>Bland

>>144783608
>Of course once the trilogy will be finished + all the DLC it will be good
This

>but it will cost 200€ at the very least
Also this

>>144782627
the game is good, overpriced, but good

but if you paid full price on Steam, you deserve it :^)

>>144782635
yes they say that.

Any mods that add militia units like empire archers, free company cannon fodder and the like?

>>144782787
>buying CA games after Med2

>>144783824
>UMAD XDDD

End yourself.

>>144784012
>buying ca games after cricket world cup 99

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>>144783608
>5 distinct factions
vs
>purple spear men or blue spear men or red spear men

Obvious fanboy. If you don't like Empire there are mods that allow you to play as purple Empire. The possibilities are endless.

>>144783838
Although the 5 races are incredibly different from each other, and diverse, there's still only 5 races. The game clearly wasn't released at a complete state, even though they released payed dlc along with it for some fucking reason. Money-grabbing at its absolute worst

>>144784113
>distinct factions
>purple spear men or blue spear men or red spear men

>this meme
do I want dead guys with great weapons? or frilly hat guys with great weapons? or maybe the edgy guys with great weapons?

there is no more variety in warhammer than there is in historical games

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>>144784293

>there is no more variety in warhammer than there is in historical games

>>144784293
I bet you downloaded the "remove frilly hat" mod.

>>144784293
So far there is 5x the variety.

>>144784105
that game was pretty fucking good.
when did everything go so wrong?

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>>144784293
>there is no more variety in warhammer than there is in historical games

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>mfw /twg/ is so gullible when it comes to bait

>Living in a third world country
>Expect TW:WH to be overpriced as fuck
>Check the American price
>It's $60 Ameriburgers
>"fug"
>Check local price
>$27 Ameriburgs

BASED STEAM
A
S
E
D

>>144784431
I legitimately still have the CD for that game. I didn't even realise it was a CA game till I googled their history before S1 for the sake of a shitpost.

>>144784545
that's because theres nothing else to talk about since nobody's "blogging" about their campaign. i'll willingly bite the bait during loading screens my nigga

>>144784584
>Steam
>Based

They make 1:1 conversions between dollars and euro the cunts

How big is grimgor in the lore? Is he the size of an ogre?

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>all of these people jumping on the "lel fuck historyfags" bandwagon
WH is good, i really like it, but stop pretending that the older games were bad you fuckheads

>>144784447
There is
No amount of anime faces is going to add weight to your argument
Or lack of otherwise

>>144784705
>his country uses the euro
lmao

>>144784723
he's actually supposed to be quite lean for a black orc, capitalizing on pure muscle and speed

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>>144784763
>there is no more variety in warhammer than there is in historical games

>people are actually defending TW "five races" WH

You know in fucking third age TW there was litteraly more dievesity and it's a fucking free mod made by a couple of autists.

But warhammerfags are eating the shit out of CA's ass and they are even begging for more (willing to pay full price of course). How surprising.

>>144784705
I'm sorry
At least your country got working hospitals and clean water
t. Mexico

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>>144784723

He's slightly bigger than a black orc

>>144784763

>there is no more variety in warhammer than there is in historical games

>>144784842
I thought orcs grew in size the more dominant they were over other orcs.

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>>144784834
>his country doesn't have free healthcare

>>144784961
I believe it's more related to age. Gork and Mork are supposed to be celestial orc-titans or some shit.

>>144784723
He's a big guy

>>144784961
I thought they grew bigger the longer they lived, only the most brutal and cunning living long enough to get black orc sized.

>>144784923
>>144784852
>Fantasy fags are drooling retards that can't communicate without anime faces
kay, good to know.

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>>144785179
>there is no more variety in warhammer than there is in historical games

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>>144784884
>You know in fucking third age TW there was litteraly more dievesity and it's a fucking free mod made by a couple of autists.

>>144784884
Top quality

ANCIENT EMPIRES FUCKING WHEN I'M TIRED OF ALL THIS FANTASY SHIT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>144784623
hey, its a good game. The uniform colors are comfy, and India is not meme tier overpowered.

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>>144784834
>my country doesn't even use the euro but Steam still does

>>144785248
thanks, only got one legit (You) so far though, I'm a bit disapointed desu

>>144784353
>>144784389
>>144784418
>>144784447
good to see you have no real arguments, all the unit roles from earlier titles are the exact same shit in tww, this is particularly obvious in MP, where if you take away the spirit leach cheese 4 factions out of 5 play the exact same

>>144784545
its not bait, I actually like and enjoy tww, but claiming that it is somehow much more varied than say attila is pretty dishonest, the different cultural groups in attila, say the romans and the sand peoples, are about as varied as one race in warhammer is from another

>>144784961

They grow bigger the older and the more they fight

>>144785343
True, I always prefered UK only cricket games so I could play on a county level though.

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COME BACK HERE BITCH BOY

>>144785421
this.

>>144785595

Gelt is so sad in this game, the balance patch to buff spells can't come soon enough

>>144785421
not this.

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In the midst of the chaos, Spurdo becomes a meme

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>>144785647
>sad
That's the word

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Scratching that Medieval 3 itch

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>>144785421
>there is no more variety in warhammer than there is in historical games

>>144781195
damn I'm about to ragequit, Kislev keeps recolonizing province capitals, something that AI NEVER does when you play as non chaos...

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>>144785421

>its not bait, I actually like and enjoy tww, but claiming that it is somehow much more varied than say attila is pretty dishonest

>>144784418
>5 factions
>5 times the variety
Oh boy... Fantasyfags will spew any bullshit to defend their sub par Total War game. Quite frankly, I had more fun with Empire: Total War.

>>144785421
> 4 factions out of 5 play the exact same
they objectively don't

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You're at a party and this guy slaps your gf's ass, what do you do?

>>144786135
kekked

>>144786151
slap him across his big gay face

>>144786151
fucking run

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>>144785595
Oh wrong screenshot.
Sad indeed

>>144786151
1v1 cuz i'm grimgor and dont give a shit

>>144786151

Final transumation him and focus fire him with handgunners and cannons

>>144786151
Get a fucking squeegee and bucket to scrape her off the fucking wall, have you seen how big that guy is. His slaps would turn her into fucking mist.

>>144786151
beg my lord and bro settra to please kill him

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>>144786151
>Enter a dungeon
>Kholek farts in your face

>>144785647
Only his first spell sucks. But autistic babbys don't have the attention span to unlock his other shit.

>>144786147
yes they do, they all revolve around armour piercing shock troops, it doesnt matter if its black orcs or greatswords or chosen with great weapons, the role they fulfil is the exact same, the problem is made worse by the asinine decision to have insanely high armour value on high tier troops, which means that shock units instead of being glass cannons are often more resilient then their non-shock varients

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>dwarves

>>144786369

His first spell is a pretty important one of his arsenal, his buff spells and golden hounds cost a fuckton

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>it's a Surtha Ek sieges your settlement episode
>it's actually not a rerun, but the new episode "Retard attacks castle with only cavalry"

>dwarfs
>useful

>>144786375
>1 faction can't rout
>1 faction has no cavalry
there that's 2 already
and to add to your muh ap damage : handgunners which makes the empire and dwarves stand out as well
inb4 b-b-but those don't count

>>144786506
>the frozen wasteland norska has horses

>>144786506
TOP KEK

>>144786585
THAT'S A GRUDGIN

>>144786413
In my VC campaign, the Greenskins have taken all of the south. The only dwarfs left are the little pocket kingdoms around Empire borders. One of those shits kept declaring war on me despite not being close enough to actually send an army, so they'd just pay me for peace a few turns later. Until one of these wars resulted in them inviting the greenskins to war with me too. Now I've just started fighting off the first few waves of Chaos in the north right as Grimgor and his boys started sending armies up from the south (after declaring war on the dwarfs that got me into this fucking mess).

>>144786506
how do you get them to attack ?
>surtha ek
i swear i've put that cunt in the ground so many times and the more he dies the stronger he becomes making my agents fail i hate his stupid face so much

>>144786585
>dwarf campaign, empire declares war on ally
>thats a grudgin
>raze every stalk leg faction except the russians

I had a lot of fun that campaign

OIM THE ONE TROO GIT

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>>144786692
come at me you fucking midget faggot. I doubt you can even enter my house, probably need a siege tower to climb up the stairs.

Uncle Thorgrim, will you read me a bedtime story from the Great Book of Grudges?

>>144784129
>there's only 5 races

The different lords have different starts. Sigvald allows for faster horde growth while Kholek is really strong. The different army compositions and different powers each lord has results in your opening moves and your overall campaign taking a somewhat different course each time. The factions are generally diverse enough that "muh five races" is a dumb argument to make.

>>144782898
>people are so triggered by Trump they make nonsensical posts like this

>>144785179
>kay

Ever notice how people who complain about anime use words that seem really out of place on 4chan? Especially the type of retard who thinks that reaction faces count as anime.

>>144784739
No one is pretending or saying that. People are making fun of autismos who keep whining that Total War should only be for history.

It's funny because I remember there were autismos who hated Rome Total War (the original) and created the Rome Total Realism mod which replaced the four-faction Rome with the "Romani" faction among other things.

Historyfags are and have always been whiny autists who should be ignored.

Does magic and fire damage go through armour? because when i overcast some spells it says armour piercing

>>144786759
It's just luck. It seems to help if the balance of power bar in largely in his favour. Not that having it 90% in his favour did him any good.

Please tell me Krislev will be playable

>>144787028
polar bear mounts

90% sure they will be a freelc anon

>>144787028
"most likely"

Three hellcannons or four?

>>144787147

1

So if I don't have the Chaos DLC, will their units still be the DLC ones in my game when I'll be fighting them ?

>>144787147
1

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SPURDOOOOOOOOOOO

>>144787147
uno

>>144787147
5

>>144786585
>willing to die before routing (with leadership upgrades)
>quarrellers make gobbos route in one volley
>fucking ironbreakers
WAZZOCK DETECTED

>Empire legend campaign
>never interacted with any greenskin unit
>not once
>dwarfs literally just raped them pre-turn 100 out of their entire territory

>>144787216
>>144787293
>>144787358
Why?

>>144786598
>1 faction can't rout
doesnt change much when surrounded and loosing units quickly crumble and are made useless, in fact the regular units often hold out longer, since they just stop routing and come back to fight

>1 faction has no cavalry
and thats the only one that plays differently, all else have their top tier stacks structured the same. Its especially noticeable in MP, where the meta is actually very similar to attila, only more cancerous because as I said shock troops are just as armoured if not more armoured then generic ones

you know what the most common tactic for attila was? Here is the most common one:
>pick a faction with 2 handed shock (burgundians were popular because of this, but nords work as well)
>spread a spagheti line of shit units in front of them
>put some cav on a flank

here is what the most common TWW online army you will go up against, thats not relying on sniping your general:
orcs
>take some black orcs
>spread some boyz in a spagheti line in the front
>put a monster or some crappy cav on a flank
>night gobbo archers in the back
empire:
>take some greatswords
>spread basic spears in spagheti line in the front
>put crossbows in the back
>demis on a flank

you get the point, the only faction that is different are bretonians because they are unfinished, and dwarves because they have no cav

>>144787254

Just a couple, i think gorebeast chariots and dragon ogre shaggoths won't be avaiable to the AI

>>144787107
>kislev freelc
i'm conflicted about this prospect
i'dd fell they'dd fit much better with a non playable (tabletopwise) human dlc. they're not really that big of a deal in anything but a chaos campaign
for freelc i'dd much rather have a race that they don't have to build by themselves

>>144786901
A Umgi insulted us by not drinking our ale
We stripped him naked and threw him from the highest peaks
Thats a grudging.

holy shit i just fucked an entire human army with just 20 doom diver catapults, flying gobbos > running humies

>>144787467
so what you're saying is
B-b-b-but those don't count ?

The wind has changed. Now we fly like dragons. No longer will we bow to lesser men. All bow to us. But our enemies still march. So what? Victory is within my grasp. All will fear us. All will fear me, for I am Shogun!. Our ancestors would be proud. We drew the sword and went to war. Our enemies are scattered. Their cities burn. All who oppose us are crushed. Their dead are silent. We are triumphant. From the northern mountains to the depths of the southern seas, we rule, I rule! The true master of Japan has been revealed. All men bow to me, their mighty shogun. Our clan's greatness will be remembered, its glory, its power... a legacy to last a thousand years!

>>144787486
But at least the faction will still be "unique" and not a reskin of whatever race in the game ?

>>144787467

You're moving goal posts, you went from every faction is the same to the meta favours elite armour piercing units right now.

>>144786945
>The different lords have different starts
yeah. those dramatic differences like +5 movement range on a faction leader and a useless buff to a crap unit on a secondary LL. What a variety! The fact that the bonuses are literally the same on different factions only makes it worse, no seriously:
Grimgor: +5 movement, -upkeep on black orcs
KF: +5 movement -upkeep on greatswords and reiksguard
Archaon: +5 movement - upkeep on chaos warriors and knights
HOW. FUCKING.VARIED

>>144787784
>sound of atom bombs being dropped.

>>144787486
Add the useless armored chaos trolls and one of the weapon variations of WoC/Chosen

>>144787837
every faction is the same, because their meta is the exact same: the top army composition of freaking empire and orcs, the two factions you'd expect to be very different is practically fucking identical

>>144787028
Where would they go? Kislev attacking the Empire is bonkers, at best they could expand south and take out the VC.

Which doesn't work that well cause Ostermark is between that.

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>fuck it
>let's try gunlining this shit
>Lord, four units of swordsmen, two cannons and the rest Handgunners
>go up against Border Princes with the generic Empire stack of swordsmen, spearmen, pistoliers and a mortar
>one of my swordmen units tie up 3-4 AI units in melee each
>the gunmen just absolutely murder them at point-blank range

So it turns out that the AI will prioritize tying up your melee so it can charge your ranged units, but it doesn't accurately gauge how much it needs to tie them up. Kiting the few melee units that make it past your line is easy with multiple Handgunner units just blasting them in the ass and sides.

>dwarf legend campaign
>just go south
>don't even give a shit about chaos since vampire counts and empire is already fucking them in the ass
>literally only have to slaughter greenskins and do nothing else

man, I played Empire first and the experience was so much different. You got raped from all fucking sides, everyone wanted a piece of your land and when chaos came you were obviously the only one they would fucking attack. Constant rebellions everywhere, armies need forfuckingever to move from one side of your empire to the other because of all these fucking rivers and forests.

What an annoying campaign.

So, are you guys using linear tactics? It spiced up my empire campaign.

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>clean up some rebels then prepare to head south to deal with the Marienburg menace
>pan over to my northern border
>see this

>>144788009
>every faction is the same, because their meta is the exact same

The two have no correlation, there will always be a meta in every game that favours something, doesn't mean the factions aren't much diverse than what you make them out to be like this >>144787845 idiot right here

Anyone can make the ridiculous oversimplifications you two are making, M2 has nothing but knights because everything else is shit and some units don't even work even if you tried to use them, thus every faction in M2 is the same

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why is troop deployment the most enjoyable part of total war games?

>>144788009
the difference in factions are on the campaign map layer.

it would have been nice to cap elite/rare units per recruitment building per army or whatever, but I guess that idea was scrapped.

What mod do you guys use to play Moussilon?

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>>144788405
a fits a fit

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5 turns to fuckign replenish half a unit, the pace of the chaos campaign is utter shit, on par with huns in attila, can't ally anyone outside norsca to replenish faster, can't vassal for shit, gg.

>>144787147
>get 4
>they all get 100 kill before the enemy reaches your lines
>enemy line is open like swiss cheese 10s after the battle starts
>run your great weapons trought the holes and attack the others in the back/rear while your cavalry runs down the archers your hellcanon couldn't rout
gg no re

>>144788405
yeah, on flat surface.

Do it on empire forest fuckery and you spend 20 minutes figuring out whether your units will get raped because the terrain is 2 degrees too steep for the stupid fucking AI to hit anything.

>>144788296
I'm using auto resolve stacks made out of two units of Empire Knights, the Lord, 6 Crossbows and the rest all Swordsmen.
Which made quick work of Archaon in autoresolve. The real battle will be fought in the south anyways in my campaign, Grimgor is sitting on 27 fucking settlements.

>>144788317
>thus every faction in M2 is the same
I actually agree and will not argue against this, shitty balance making playstyles nearly identical is a very bad and boring thing

>like this >>144787845 idiot right here
that guy is right though, they could have definitely made the both bonuses more varied, AND much more significant so there would actually be a difference on what lord you pick

>doesn't mean the factions aren't much diverse than what you make them out to be
the whole conversation started because of this:
>>144784113
>purple spear men or blue spear men or red spear men

>>144788704
monsters are top tier shit because fo replenish-rate. you'e better off recruiting chosen and merging them together every few battles. the pace get's really fucking fast that way, but it's not as fun as bringing monsters

>those two unit half dead Skaeling shits futzing around Weismund raiding and every 4th turn attacking and only just being beaten back because those lords keep smacking down regular infantry
>Two main stacks are busying telling Dorfs and Actual Chaos Fucking Shits

Pain

>>144788704
Merge and re-recruit. With an exateld hero specced for unit rank, some techs and your lord having unit rank aswell you will recruit lvl 9 guys in one fucking turn.

Even Chosen.

>>144772417

The original Vampire Count's agents still have the Mousillon reskin on them

Other than that, great work

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>>144786413

>dwarves hate me so much 8 turns into my campaign they join the green skin war against me
>franz dumps them in the trashcan where they belong

i want to vassalize them

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>>144788704
Yeah it's really fucking slow, especially if norsca is dead because you can't raise them and you end up alone against everybody.
The only thing I found to go faster was to bring 2 chaos lord in your horde province after big battles so you can end up recruting your units at max level and don't have to wait for replenishment

>>144787845
>>144788810
It does make a difference which lord you pick though

Kholek is a tank that rapes everything with his hammer, Sigvald is relatively weak but his bonus to horde growth and the fact that he starts with a cannon means that he is the ideal lord for a rushed campaign

Further you people keep saying "but muh five races not so diverse" when dwarfs don't even have fucking cavalry which completely changes how you would play.

>>144788810

But balance is a very volatile thing that is changed simply by rewriting very few lines

Coding flying units, spells, monster units, the way they interact with other units on the charge, their mass etc. are much more complicated and add diversity not present in any of the games, mods or not.

The factions are inherently different because of their units, the fact that the meta favours armoured units is a different matter that is subject to change easily.

>>144785075
>free
You're an idiot.

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I really like the sounds of the canons in the underway

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Where the fuck is the free DLC that was promised? Where the fuck is magic and arty patch?

WHAT MOD DO YOU GUYS USE TO PLAY MOUSSILON

>>144789229
>Kholek, Sigvald
the only example you have is chaos, because its the only time it matters, and even then the growth bonus sigvald has is pretty weak and archaon is a perfect middle ground that both rapes face in a fight and has a good faction bonus, movement range is after all extremely important to a horde

>dwarfs don't even have fucking cavalry
slavs in attila have no melee cavalry, nords have no archers, it really isnt some ground breaking new thing for a faction to not have a unit type anon

>>144788963
>can't merge 2 giants into one huge giant
>only play chaos to rip shit up with huge ass units

welp fuck that campaign

>>144788156
I played Empire first and thought it was really easy, then played Dwarfs second and got fucked. As Empire I didn't really do anything but get a couple of provinces, focus on building up my economy and getting big armies, then when Chaos invaded suddenly pretty much every province of the Empire was willing to accept a confederation and I steam-rolled everything. Prior to this I don't think I was in a single war not counting the one with the rebels. In contrast as Dwarfs Grimgor came up with a full stack in the first 6 turns and I was always off somewhere else at the time and so ended up losing all of my holds. The only issue I ever had with Empire was fucking Chaos Vikings constantly being a nuisance.

>>144789502

tomorrow

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>>144789503
LOOK IT UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUP

>>144789603
If you want to use ANY kind of monster, no matter the faction you have to manually fight every battle anyways, this is not specific to Chaos.

>>144789637
DON'T MOCK ME

>>144785075
>UK

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>>144789639
>>144789503

Solved it

Now this is a nice change of pace

>>144789481
How did that formation work out? I usually go for a pretty bland infantry-in-front-and-sides and missile-in-back just because it's quicker and works pretty well.

Soooo who else here wants to fuck grimgor ?

Goddamn this combat in DEI is just what I want, hand to hand slog fest where formations matter.

>>144790327

Yes infantry being useless and rear charging 15 times is just what I like

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TAKE BACK THE REALMS

KHAZUK KHAZUK KHAZUK-HA

>>144790102
It's been working well. The only important thing about it is leaving a space inbetween the front line infantry (in this case my iron breakers) for the ranged units to shoot through. When the enemy comes, they should mostly attack the front line and your ranged wont get bogged down. Because of the gaps my gunners and even cannons didn't have their shots blocked so they could get lots of kills. Ideally the enemy will even surround your front line units a little bit making them even easier to shoot. In this fight I didn't even need my other units and they mostly just acted as something for the enemy artillery to shoot at

>>144783627
>Da stunty's flyin'
>Ow's 'e doing that boss?

>>144790287
SAY MY NAME
you're the one getting fucked

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>>144789886
Personally I suggest a combo of; http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=693541093& and http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=696617778&

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Welp, I think the Storm of Chaos just got cancelled.

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>when she gives you the w a g g

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oh jeez, the Chaos Wastes are crazy

>>144791094
enjoy losing an unnecessary amount of dorfs to those cannons

>>144791298
>tfw you counter-fire with your numerous dwarvern artillery units

>>144790287
do orcs have dicks?

>>144791094
>Only 4 artillery pieces
It's like you don't even want to enjoy your underway shooting gallery

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WHAT YOU GONNA DO WHEN GRIMGOR AND FRIENDS ARE COMING FOR YOU

>>144791450
I think fungus is only canon in 40k

>>144791450
They're asexual mushrooms but they're said to have "dangly bitz"

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This might be fun, I guess i can't conquer or confederate with anyone though.

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Fucking hell Tzeentch. Why?

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>>144791723
>orks will never raid villages to steal their women for breeding

>>144791605
WHY DIDN'T YOU PRESSED K MONGOLOID

THAT WOULD BE AN AWESOME PIC

>>144791605
I'm going to raise my voice and your army will rout

>>144791764
How is that fun? You have absolutely no territory to go to.

>>144791723
Spore sacks, that's why they burn the bodies

Can modders add quests and Lords already? Cause all these other playable factions would be kinda shit with just basic guys.

>>144792129

Being isolated in the middle of chaos lands is its own challenge

>>144791605
>>144791723
The whole fungus thingy was invented to cover up the fact that there are no female orcs/orks.

Then again, I've never seen a female dwarf either. Or a female skeleton.

>>144792343
>Or a female skeleton.

Great now I want to fuck one

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>>144792343
>Then again, I've never seen a female dwarf either.

Yeah because they are fucking stacies. Feminism ruined them.

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>>144792343
>Or a female skeleton.

Oh snap

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List of OP things:
>Steam Tanks
>Demigryphs with halberds
>Death magic
>Quarrelers
>Ironbreakers
>Miners with charges
>Outriders(grenade launchers) but only slightly
>so I guess splosions
>Arachnarok spider (kills too much shit but ork roster sucks o much I could forgive it)
>hellcannon (I could see 10 of these take out an entire army)
>marauder skirmisher cav (make it slower ffs)
>banshees (good luck if you don't have nuke spells)
Did I miss anything?

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>dire wolves
how the fuck do I use them?
they get doggy raped by anything stronger than an anemic ranged unit and only seem to exist to chase down routing units

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What the fuck do I have to do to make imperial factions confederate with me?