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How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, June 7th:
1099 – First Crusade: The Siege of Jerusalem begins.
1494 – Spain and Portugal sign the Treaty of Tordesillas which divides the New World between the two countries.
1776 – Richard Henry Lee presents the "Lee Resolution" to the Continental Congress. The motion is seconded by John Adams and will lead to the United States Declaration of Independence.
1832 – Asian cholera reaches Quebec, brought by Irish immigrants, and kills about 6,000 people in Lower Canada.
1866 – One thousand eight hundred Fenian raiders are repelled back to the United States after they looted and plundered around Saint-Armand and Frelighsburg, Quebec.


>News
EU4 DD02/06
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-2nd-of-june-2016.940420/

CK2 DD 8 - Life goes on
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/ck2-development-diary-8-life-goes-on.939724/

>Random Country Picker
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# Archive
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# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>EU4 - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.5] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.3.3 - 21/03/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V7
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2] Many Houses Divided - v 0.0.1.1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jso7qa1c4ystej7/MHD.rar

Old Thread >>144691673
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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HoI4 has a pretty bad AI
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>>144715337
we know you control the OP
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How do i use planes? I selected the air map and everything.
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New ck2 dlc when
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> Paradox will include 'Historical' mode in a future DLC
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>>144715530
Click in the air base and assign missions
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>>144715446
Fucked if I know the Chinks fell easy for me.

This game is beyond clunky it barely makes any sense. HoI3 was waaaaaay better.
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>still not in archive
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>>144715641
Where is assign mission?
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>>144715663
Stop being an entitled little brat and go look for your own pirate shit
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>>144715878
To your right, the icons in airplanes indicate the mission
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>>144713569
Princess Sao, the terror of the South China sea and the first true ruler of the Haizei pirates, left the world for the great ocean beyond, at the age of 64. Her adopted daughter, Yuantong, would succeed her. Though few would miss Cheng Sao's furious temper, they feared her daughter even more. Yuantong had a reputation for poisons and trysts ending in blood, reportedly killing her lovers when she tired of them.

Where Cheng Sao's reign had been one of fire, Yuantong's would be one of blood.
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>>144715646
There are actually some soviet infantry there too which they sent as an expeditionary, maybe that's why. Still doesn't make sense where they get supplies from.
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>>144716021
>>144715878

Meant left
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>>144715881
I wouldn't even download it if it was in the archive, I'm just shitposting
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>>144716197
Thanks for confessing :^)
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Is there a solid map mod for HoI4 yet?
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Annex or Puppet Ethiopia?
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hoi4 has shit AI guys
also my version has hitler's face blacked out, do I have the 3dm chink version?
I got it from kickass torrents from a user named IGG Games
ok
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How do I get that sweet flat map for hoi4?
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>>144716070
Though the sad excuses for clergy had long been run out of Haizei territory, there were pirates who might be counted among the faithful. These "old grumblers" were captains who had not only had successful careers at sea, but had lived long enough to retire. Their advice and counsel was well heeded by any who had the courage to call themselves a ruler in the free isles.

Their advice on the native unrest wracking the thinly spread Haizei was simple: trinkets, baubles, and bribes. As long as the tribal elders were kept happy, they claimed, the locals would quiet down with their absurd demands for the newcomers to go.

Does anyone care about these posts/this run? If no one is interested, I'll leave y'all be.
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>no province names
wtf
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Can someone explain the new battleplan system in hoi4?

i selected my army and drew a front line, but the map said no division selected or something

also what's the strat for nationalist china? concede beijing?
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>>144717152
Lurking
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Why do I always have to do everything on my own
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>>144716952
Always puppet, good luck defending those worthless colonies around Ethiopia once you're at war with the Brits, just let the niggers fight them.
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Believable worlds
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>>144717152

keep raping anon
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>>144715337
Steamgroup/discordgroup shaking right now
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do a game as Hungary
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>>144717462
The new way occupation works is fugly as shit. It appears to be whoever takes the province rather than whoever owns the adjacent province, and it caused so much more border gore.
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>>144717772
*ing
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>>144717462
So how does the game fix borders like this? Post war peace events?
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>>144717772
Take that bit of Slovenia north of the river. Just use changeowner or whatever when you win, assuming you aren't ironman.
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>>144717458
Thanks. Guessing I should leave a contingent in Eritrea/Somalia and take the rest of my infantry home?
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I JUST WANT FUUCKING COUNTERS REEEEEEE
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>>144717462
>Red lanky hands of the soviet's around "poland"
It looks so ugly, like blood splatters from the act of ripping the reich's beating heart out.
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>>144717913
What is this?
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>HOI III comes out
"It's shit, HOI II is so much better"
>HOI IV comes out
"It's shit, HOI III is so much better"
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>>144717886
There's a new peace treaty mechanic where each member takes turns claiming shit, depending on how much participation they had.
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>>144718120
hoi4 is a great game
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>>144717959
>>144717886
>>144717779
Forget about the borders I fucking won the war as Denmark, that's the biggest issue.
Look at how the rest of the allies stalled while I marched to Berlin and opened another front
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stellaris babbys on suicide watch
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>>144718120
>HOI V comes out
>Thank god it's more like EU5 in the way you can just pick up and play, not like that complicated game HOI IV
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>>144718336
>hoi4 is too complicated for me
I learned most of the game in 2 hours
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Well my first time playing a HOI game and my Girlfriend has decided she wants to make this her first paradox game as well.

WHY WAS I NOT AWARE VICTORIA II COULD LAN?! It took HOI for me to notice this.

I could have converted her so long ago!
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>>144718284
Fuck, at least tell us that you waited for the Germany's to be well into the fight with France before you overwhelm the few divisions left at your boarder
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>>144718462
i also want to convert her
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hoi4 stellaris converter when
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>>144717901
Whenever I play Italy I just pull them all out, you won't be able to send ships through the Suez canal unless you control the province of course. Just leave this area of Africa to Ethiopia. They'll probably get overrun but it's entirely irrelevant since, at least in Hoi3 their capital is the only VP in close by.
I'd focus on other shit, if you invade the British isles you'll get your shit back anyways.
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That sounds kinda fun tbqh

Imagine taking your gross germania all the way from ck2 to blobbing the galaxy

It's the ultimate meme
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>>144718671
>Win the game as Germany
>Black woman president in the year 2200
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>>144718761
Meant to reply to
>>144718671
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Anyone know when hoi4 is going in the archive? to lazy to search for own version/ dont want a chinese botnet
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>>144717335
>>144717651
>>144717152
By the late 15th century, the Haizei pirates nominally controlled much of the northern Philippines. Although the natives inland paid the pirates little mind beyond trade and resolving occasional skirmishes, Haizei port towns flourished along the coast. Chinese pirates brought their riches to the islands, and after giving Mistress Sao her tribute, they were free to resupply and rest in safety.

To illustrate the extent to which the Red Flag fleet was able to hold Chinese shipping hostage, one can view Ming records of the year 1490. By their estimates, a full third of merchant traffic emerging from the Yangtze river and the nearby coastal cities was either seized or forced to pay tribute to Yuantong Sao.

Yuantong, did not indulge in the raids on poor coastal villages like her adoptive mother. Rather, vessels which defied the fleet would have their crews decimated and the survivors enslaved, with a sole free man left to spread the word of what had occurred.

I think I'm done for tonight, I'll pick this up again tomorrow. Being a pirate is insanely fun. This is something that EU4 legitimately better than EU3 (the custom nations and piracy in general).
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who
>fascist britain
here
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>>144718336
>Can't run the game
lol
>Too complicated
I skipped the tutorial and just jumped in, was able to hold my bearings and conquer a lot of Europe

Anyways, anyone know where the option to leave / disband a faction is? I'm in one alone with my puppets and I want to join another one.
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>>144718671
Back when stellaris was about to release I posted about my plans to make a hoi4 stellaris converter but then the autism war started so I scrapped it.

I'll probably revive it a year from now when stellaris is long forgotten and abandoned by paradox.
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>>144718737
OK. Two more quick questions if you don't mind

Any reason not to invade Yemen/Oman? Seems like it would be good for the oil

Should I join Axis as soon as that's available i.e now? Any downsides to that?
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>>144718584
Fucking retards declared war on the soviet union after they annexed poland, so yeah, they were busy and eventually diverted their fronteir armies to me and they collapsed
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>>144719039
What? No Mosley?

I know they were Monarchist but still, is it possible?
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>>144719039
Me but how did you end up with Edward VII instead of Mosley?
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counters + spirtes = best combination
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>>144719051
Not him but the moment you go to justify war against a country, the UK will guarantee their freedom.
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>>144718120
The old versions _are_ better when new ones first come out, 'cos paradox does patches & expansions & dlc for years.
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>>144719050
How far were you before it was scrapped?
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>>144718284
>some fat dane with 24 divisions under his command destroyed Germany
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>declare war on Venezuela using the puppet CB from the preemptive intervention national focus
>for some fucking reason Estonia and Latvia join the war halfway through
>despite completely removing Venezuela from existence I only have 28% war score
>I have to invade the fucking Baltics in order to end a war in south america

you cant fucking make this shit up jewhan, how does this even make it past testing?
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How do you change resolution in this piece of shit?
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>>144719484
Options menu
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>>144719051
I don't know how it works in Heart of Iron 4 but Romania has an oil refinery in 3 and Iraq has a fuck ton of oil. They're both closer, especially if you annex Turkey since you can just walk into Iraq. If it works like Heart of Iron 3 then Yemen and so on will be allies so you'll have to annex them anyways if you fuck aroud with the Brits and want to win.

Joining Axis depends on what you want to do, in HoI3 it's good for lower neutrality and research/supply bonuses. Just make you sure you don't accept German offers to join the war until you're ready or you'll get rekt no doubt.
You could just do your thing and wait if what happens in the East, if Germany gets rekt by the Soviets invade Germany for IC and if they don't join Axis and invade the Soviets.
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>>144718120
Darkest Hour is still better than either Hoi3 or Hoi4 tho.
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>>144719468
The same shit would happen in EU IV, it's fucking annoying.
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>>144719518
ofcourse my man but mine is stuck to some random as fuck resolution.Isn't there a config or something? sorry for newbie questions
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>>144715443
their horribly defensive and can't beat decent divisions
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>>144719141
>>144719179
I got an event for Eddy to come out of exile and take over.
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>>144717250
step one) draw a frontline by usually holding right click and dragging it over the enemies border

step 2) highlight the units you want to assign to that front line

step 3) if their in that theatre already, the battleplan system should appear, click on assign divisions

step 4) with the units highlighted and assign divsions button pressed, left or right click the frontline/assault option you want them to do

step5) if the units begin to move to that frontline, then the assignment has been completed

also, create borders with the attack plan, not arrows, as the ai will attempt to simply push down that single point
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>>144719909
Did you go for upper class fascist support or popular uprising? Might depend on that, I guess. Did you get a civil war happening?
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Not pictured USA fighting the Allies because Japan joined them.

Fucking AI needs work 90% Germany gets stuck fighting at Danzig for fucking years.
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>>144719760
I don't actually own the game, I'm unpacking my torrent now.

For other paradox games, Documents/Paradox Interactive/[game] there's a settings file and it should have resolution in there.

Captcha: 666
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>>144719310
Obviously HOI4 wasn't out yet so I never worked on that part but I did take a look at HOI3 to get a general idea on what I would have to convert. That's when shit started going down on the general so I stopped.

There isn't that much to convert and I could probably get the first version out in 1 month. I just don't want to be involved in the shitstorm a HOI4-Stellaris converter would cause right now so I'm gonna wait 1 or maybe even 2 years till I start working on it again. By then stellaris will be long forgotten.
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>>144715328
so far what i'ev found in HOI4

port strikes too OP, 30 port bombers wiped out 32 battleships, cruisers and destroyers

ai is defensive and slow to build decent divisions

diplomacy and territory grabbing is fucked

supplys are no longer massively important
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>>144718120
>game quality keeps dropping
Which part of that sentence is hard for you to understand?

Also because HoI4 is fucked/casualized up this much remade Keisserech wont never ever happen.
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>>144720023
Upper Class. No civil war; Fascists took over in a referendum.
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>>144720167
So you waited for fascists to get more support and didn't go for the uprising part?
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>>144718120
You weren't even around when HoI2 came out.
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>>144720072
In my game France and Germany decided to fight a fucking trench war until 1945... France didn't fall until 46 even after the USSR was conquered by Japan and Germany.
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>>144720119
what if /gsg/ doesn't exist anymore in 2 years
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>>144720237
>mfw i actually remember when it came out
>i rushed infantry tech and nukes as UK
>didnt know doctrines exist
>Germany kicked my ass in France and i wondered why
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How do you become fascist?
Fo you just spend mana om correct minister?
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>>144720234
Yep. I got a fascist cabinet minister for the fascists support, followed the events which gave fascist support and chose the upper class or internal cabinet or whatever it was, instead of popular support, and then allowed a referendum and they took over with Mosley as the head of my government. I then received an event where I could choose to have Edward VIII to take control, or keep Mosley.
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>Start playing CK2 as my first grand strategy game
>raise my army and march over to my neighbour
>they don't fight back
>but the game doesn't let me just march right into their capital and take over
>this time declare war then march over
>kick their shit in
>Siege their fort losing a shitload of men
>win eventually
>nothing happens
>My army just sits there until their allies run me off
>Look this shit up apparently I should have made my chancellor fabricate claims first
>this has a 4% progress per fucking year
What the fuck? Alexander the Great didn't need this shit to conquer territory why can't I?
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>>144719760
>>144720096
On the launcher, at the bottom left there's also a cog for resolution
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>>144719063
>Still haven't beaten France
>War with the Soviets
Oh my god, I don't know what to say. This has to be a nightmare, the AI scripts are trash if they came to the conclusion of trying to rush the Soviet Union when they still had France to fight.
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The Persian Übermensch does some work.
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>>144720460
Are you going Axis, or making your own faction?
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In HOI4 should i puppet or conquer ethiopia?
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>>144720532
I haven't decided. I just dismantled the Axis, because Canada, Australia, New Zealand and even South Africa left due to my change in government.
I'm probably going to just let Germany fuck over everything and claim Calais and Normandy from France and restore my rightful borders.
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>>144718120
>tfw play gsg before EU3 came out
>tfw play gsg before they have threads on /v/ and /int/, ways before /vg/ was created
>tfw account on Paradox forum was created before Wiz's account
>tfw new kids these days don't know anything about gsg back then
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>>144720654
I mean I dismantled the Allies, not the Axis.
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>>144720490
When the fuck did Alexander the Great live in the medieval ages?
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Which doctrine is better Superior firepower or Grand Battleplan?
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>>144720490
>feudalism
>same as ancient Greece
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>>144720796
Fine Genkhis Khan then. Point is I want to conquer but Paradox won't let me.
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>have set naval invasion plan
>250 convoys
>naval supremacy
>"we need 3 convoys but have 0 to transport these divisions"
ebin, simply ebin
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>>144720072
>Italy losing Libya to France
How is this happening? How could Italy fail to beat a dead state? Italy has one job after the Balkans collapse into the axis, win the war in northern Africa, this is just absurd
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>>144720564
conquer and don't fucking abandon it and libya, put a decent army in those regions and fuck up the french and british (rush the suez)
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>>144720343
I honestly don't think that will happen. /gsg/ is one of the oldest generals on /vg/ and one of the largest, if it did ever die there would probably be remnants and in that case I would go to wherever HOI4 is.

Let's say /gsg/ completely dies with no remnants/offshoots. Then I'd probably just scrap it altogether or just release it on my own site. I could never release my shit at the forums or Reddit. Those sites are just too shitty communication wise. /gsg/ allows me to answer people's questions faster and people are more likely to ask questions or report bugs when you can do it fast and anonymously. I know because I've modded for /gsg/ before.
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>>144720784
>>144720654
Are you going to try couping or reconquering the former dominions? Also don't forget to annex Ireland.
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Steam reviews for Hoi4 are 'very positive'

Tell me why I should trust you instead of them?
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>>144721103
What if paradox makes a modern day game? Would you convert that instead?
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>>144720938
just play as a heresy and go holy war on everyone
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>>144721291
it's a great game
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>>144721291
Steam reviewers love everything.
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>>144721291
Steam is filled with shills and fanbois. Here we dont give a fuck about devs feelings
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>>144721005
I have France take the entirety of north Africa and come re take France by itself
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>>144721103
what mod did you make before this
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>>144721384
>>144721376

But they absolutely hated 'conclave' for ck2
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>>144721005
There is an innaccuracy in Hoi4 where after Germany takes over france and Vichy France is created, Africa stays as Allied French. so Italy ends up fighting a 2 front war.
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>Brits invade North West Spain
>takes a few months to get rid off them
>reorganize everything and prepare for Sealion
>almost done, just moving some troops around
>fucking Americans start D-Day
>Germans nowhere to be found
>fucking have to scrap everything again and kill burgers
FUCK
At least Germany killed the Soviets again and is on the way.
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>>144721254
I shall, and I'm about to storm Dublin in 20 more days time when my claims are fabricated.
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>>144721291
>8/10 its okay
At least Division was ripped apart
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>>144719039

>A fucking lightning bolt
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>form the Kingdom of Italy
>want to form the Empire of Italia
>need 2 king titles to do this
>there's only one kingdom in Italy
Am I missing something? I'd assume I'm supposed to become king of Sicily as well, but that's de jure part of Byzantine Empire
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>>144721302
I'd probably still use hoi4 because at the end of the game the whole world is basically a NWO of the ideology that wins which makes more sense for stellaris. Of course I'd probably make another converter for the modern day game so people can get the full paradox experience.

>>144721408
A major mod for Vicky 2 (nobody really plays it anymore) Not gonna reveal who I am because it would cause a major shit storm.
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>>144719228
Is that for sure, or just an exaggeration?
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>>144721291
Channel Awesome forums say this guy is very funny and never makes shit

Tell me why should i trust your taste instead of theirs
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>>144720237

>There are kids positing in /gsg/ RIGHT NOW who weren't even born when EU2 and HOI1 were released
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How many divisions per province should I use

The fact they removed Corps or any sense of command means I can never fucking tell whats goin on. Fuck Casuals
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>>144721934
>implying vast majority of posters didnt migrate here with CK2 casual waves
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What's the end date on this game lads? or does it go on forever?
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>>144721819
That was their actual symbol
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>>144721856
What would the converter convert exactly?
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/gsg/ has disappointed me numerous times before, but not as much as in the present with the shameless and visceral attack on Hearts of Iron IV. Why on earth need a bunch of alienated, nihlistic young adults with social maladjustment spend their short, numbered days attacking a video game that fails to live up to their arbitrary standards? Good or not, the ideal game /gsg/ imagines is unattainable. These people spend their time bemoaning the lack of polish and features to a game that nonetheless be accepted and enjoyed by the vast majority, and push for features that will only be found in their imaginary ideal game. Most of the hairs split by these posters are indeed confined to the realm of fantasy. They see themselves as the arbiter of taste in the medium yet have no experience or qualifications in creating content to justify their insatiable thirst for perfection. Their very bodies tremble at the thought that normal people such as you or I may find fun in something they deem to be so disingenuous and flawed in its nature. What you or I see in good, valuable content to them appears twisted and distorted. Ultimately the posters who so viciously attack games made by passionate people in the industry are channeling their own frustrations at never being given the chance to create the game that lives up to their impossible standards. This, and this alone, is the true reason that /gsg/ has continued to be a source of insecure, disagreeable young 'gamers'; a term I use loosely for these people, in their hatred, have lost the true spirit of what it means to be a gamer in the end.
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I have one problem from playing HOI3 and that is, that i usually have to clean up a clusterfuck of divisions all over the map.

Is this resolved or at least stream lined in hoe4?

I mean i understand for historical reasons they do that but fuck it's irritating.

Even if i merge divisions i end up with 4 infantry brigades in one division, which are fantastic at getting killed anywhere but woods.

also i heard you now assign equipment to a division or something? does that mean i actually get to choose the quantity/quality of transport companies and other non-combat attache?
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>>144721952
4 inf 1 art in each brigade also one anti tank
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>>144721858
It happened to me as Nationalist Spain when I started justifying a war goal on Portugal.
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>>144721405
>>144721437

So, your saying that severely weakened state of France, can utilize it's holding's in Africa to compete with the industrialized/mobilized nation of Italy? How can this be possible, how do they have the manpower to create a front against Italy?
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>>144722059

A it stinks. The Union Jack is perfect the way it already is
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>>144721856
are you rob
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>>144722031
'49 but you get the option to continue playing however you will run out of stuff to research etc. sooner or later.
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>>144722131
Thats what I'm saying senpai.
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HoI4 is too hard for fuck sakes. Aftee stellaris wheee you can do anything,in hol you must gample on debuffs and buffs to win. It makes the game too tough for new players

Fuck this rng game
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>ethiopian war lasts until May 1936

Am I shit or are the Italian troops shit?
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Can I safely disband Army Groups I no longer have need for? I won't take a hit to organization or something like that?
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>>144722204
fucking kek. you are literally retarded or otherwise have no tenacity whatsoever if you cant work this game out
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>>144722096
>>144721952
DESU I think AT is useless, for a standard infantry division I use 3x3 infantry +1 arty and put recon+eng+arty+hospital+logistics support on them if I have then or can afford them
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>>144722193
Kek, I guess it just an abstract way of reflecting how bad Italy is
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>>144722162
It's 1950 and I got no choice on whether to continue playing or not. It just kept going. Might have to do with that the allies are far from defeated though. US, Canada, Australia and South Africa are still kicking.
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>>144722204
lol hoi4 is literally easier than memelaris GTFO redditard
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>>144722237

pls respond
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>>144722330
fucking weebs changed my "T.B.H" to "DESU"

>>144722131
France already owning North Africa makes it way easier for other nations like USA or Britain to land there and then attack Italy
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>>144722131
>Italy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsKz_0JcQk
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>>144722446
t. paradoxplaza
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>>144722467
>you will never go back to 2014 war thunder

why even live bubi did nothing wrong
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>>144722380
Sad thing is Italian troops fought quite well in places. Its the command that fucked them.

>Duce! Our Folgore Paracadudisti have held the British of, out of supply, with antique AT, and little to no water, for 2 weeks now. Shall we reinforce or resupply them?
>no... just send them boot polish and parade horses
>...k den
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r8 my veteran ironman ahistorical grossgermaniums

Hardest part was the air battle, Britain just had so many fighters

Still producing fighters from 75 factories but I am at least starting to stockpile some
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Dispersed or Concentrated Industry?
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TOP GUIDE TO INVADING FINLAND
STEP 1. DRIVE AROUND THE COAST
CONGRATULATIONS YOU'VE TAKEN ALL OF THEIR VICTORY POINTS AND THEY LOSE
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>>144722204
>HoI 4
>hard
Pick one
>>144722585
Sad thing is how Italian high command picked new tank designs.
They picked one randomly from the table
>riveted tanks in 1942
Italy pls
PLS
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>>144722783
Literally what Shaposhnikov planned until Stalin fucked things up
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Alright anyone know how to LAN on the CODEX copy?
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>>144722768
congrats on not having a completely useless italy.

did you support nationalist spain in the civil war? every campaign i play republicans win.
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>>144722770
Concentrated
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>>144722768
thats a pretty good grossgermanimus familia, nice and tidy
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>>144722446
>fucking weebs changed my "T.B.H" to "DESU"

Feel free to fuck off back to le reddit anytime, faggot.
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>>144722075
Whatever ideology wins WW2 creates a New World Order. The ethos and government type will be based off the leading faction. Maybe later on I'll convert races and shit for fascist new world orders.

>>144722161
The only hint I'll give you is that I'm not rob. I don't even know why he became a meme. His mod was just his personal tweak of vickymod and nobody really played it. I always thought rangerage would become more of a meme because he literally left for Reddit.
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Been playing hoi4 as Peru on recruit for first play and it's been good fun since it's the only one that starts out fascist. Took Ecuador and I've spent the last couple of years strengthening up. About to invade Brazil and I have 40 divisions (thanks to conscription) I think Brazil might have 5. This might go for all of the South American countries so I'm interested what will happen with a major power axis nation down there.
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>>144722446
thats what happened in real life tho
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>>144722906
t. rob
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>>144722835
that tank looks exactly like the m13/40 and m14/41

I was on the fence before but now i need to buy this game to rectify this problem
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>>144722894
>2015+1
>more than half of 4chan users use both reddit and 4chan interchangably
>people begging to be included on screenshots that get posted to /r/4chan
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>>144722871
they lost apart from a tiny part in Galicia, I ended up being able to invite them and then there were 10 nip divisions defending it until I could push in from France to defeat Republican Spain.

The world war started over Italy wanting Greece so I didn't even have Poland when I ended up at war with France.

I transferred Republican Spain and African provinces to Nationalist Spain/Italy to prevent some of the border gore though
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>>144722906
Do you ever plan on converting more things over?
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tfw Hungary can't have panzers as their tank
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>>144723021
Also the Japanese dragged me into the war with the Soviets by attacking them in the East (in 1940)
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>If you refuse to execute your high officers during the Great Purge they will rise up and start a civil war
Is paradox trying to tell me Stalin was right or what? All I wanted is a little saner version of USSR and instead 1/3 of my army and airforce defected to the rebels and latter disappeared after I defeated them, while I lost 1/2 of my remaining planes fighting them.
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>1941
>poland still hasn't been defeated
>france has lost paris but has taken all of italy
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>>144723006
:^)

>>144723081
Hell yeah. Those things I just told you were just ideas I got after taking a quick look at HOI3 when stellaris came out before scrapping the project. Once I buy HOI4 I'll probably get even more ideas.
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Who 1950s here lads?

>>144723325
In my game France survived up to fucking 1945 and it fought what looked like a trench war with the Germans and Italians.
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Good game 2bh
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>>144723231

Uncle Joe did nothing wrong
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>>144722158
Yeah there's no way that they would change the flag like that.


The symbol means action within unity btw which basically sums up the BUF and Fascism
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So what's the end timelimit?
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>>144723015
>need to buy this game to rectify this problem
How is that going to rectify...which problem exactly?
Italy being shit in IRL ww2 is a feature
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>>144723412

What did you do all game? You haven't expanded the empire one bit
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>>144723006
If rob actually came back to make another mod /gsg/ would probably accept him with open arms because his meme status has covered up his negative past.
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>>144723412
>Empire of the Platypus
Delete this
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>>144723459
Depends on how it happened. If Mosley and the BUF came to power via revolution ala Cromwell then they would probably change it. If he just won elections, then it'd stay the same Union Jack.
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>>144723494
There is none, but majority of the tech trees end at 1943 and you can't get achievements after 1947.
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>>144723380
Why not release it on paradoxplaza itself?
>>
>play swiss
>go fascist join axis
>war starts
>take half of france from swizterland to paris and dunkirk because germany is incompetent
>spend whole war dealing with ally bombers fucking my industry
>can only ever have 20 something planes active at a time
>only have 20~ divisions to defend northern coast of france because germany doesnt give two fucks
>allies only ever try invading three province in france so I managed to hold them off
>america joins
>2 years layter 50+ divisions invade and everything gets fucked because germany is busy with ussr

and this is all before 1943
fuck this game is dumb

also all 4 of my playthroughs so far republican spain has won the civil war, 2 of those I actually send some volunteer forces to help before they got called back
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>>144723605
Fine by me, having a hard stop point at a specific year always makes me anxious
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>>144723580
Even if they did revolt I don't think Mosley would abandon all those centuries of tradition behind the flag.

And even then the prospect of him launching an alright civil war was basically zero unless the Communists came to power
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>>144723380
Sounds like a fun mod. Hopefully /gsg/ will last the next 2 years so you can release it lol
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>>144722446
>fucking weebs changed my "T.B.H" to "DESU"
You need to go back.
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>>144723554
Fuck off back to your steam group rob
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>>144723619
>Why not release it on Paradoxplaza
Johan fuck off, we dont want forum keys for your shilling

Only company who tried to jew people more with mods was Blizzard when they tried to put microtransactions on them.
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>>144723549
Coups and assisting subsequent civil wars. USSR was actually winning till I destroyed it from the inside and Japan and Germany finished it off. That tiny dot and star under the 'r' on German Reich is my couped USSR, a fascist Russia.

I really wanted to form my own faction called Commonwealth of Nations but never got the chance to because as you can see the fucking Platypus Empire is failing completely in it's civil war so it's just me and British Raj w/o faction. I might join the Axis and nuke the US though. I'm trying to coup Canada right now.
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>>144723675
Looks quite historical to me, desu.
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Uuuuh burgers? Germany surrendered months ago
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>>144722783
Oh shit nigger, it's like victory points are actually realistic.
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I really hope this game gets fixed historically
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>>144722237
no, theyre literally fucking pointless all they do is give you a general in combat if youre doing things manually

the only reason I found to even use army groups is for naval and aerial invasions because there seems to be literally no other way, and the requirements for naval invasions are just fucking retarded
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>>144723675
everything in your greentext makes a lot of sense, what's the issue?
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>>144722446
>Being so new you didn't know about the word changer
>wanting to use nigger speak
back to reddt
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>>144723412

What is fascist America called?

The Burger Empire?
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>>144723859
What happened to Soviet army? They should have had more than enough to deal with 27 divisions.
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>>144723923
The Free Burger Empire
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>>144723534
just be Italy and see how i go actually researching tanks heavier than a ride on lawn mower.

Historically their troop quality was average to great, but constantly hampered by officers forced into service or not giving enough of a fuck about their men.

For example
>We have these elite Alpini troops
>Incredible selection process, only the finest men will do
>lets send them to Greece
>in winter
>with no winter uniforms
>and then send these mountain specialist troops to the Ukrainian steppe.

I dunno, Italy seemed like it had a lot of promise but their were dick ups all the way up the command chain anything past tenente.

I like these games because i can see how things may have panned out if X country had done Y instead of Z.
Isn't that kind of the point?
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>>144723916
>knew about the word filters ever since they implemented them since the new admins
>not wanting to use black people twitter speak as a joke
xD
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>>144723859
Why does everyone end up with mega gore borders
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CTD on Loading Databases every time

what do
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>>144724104
buy hoi4
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>>144723923
The Burger Kangz
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Any one had success with communist China? Can you do anything useful at all before Japan surrenders?
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>>144724078
I guess I should Smah dat motherfukin liek button and stp 8ing
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>>144724027
Germany, Bulgaria, and myself are attacking. Germany is just sitting there doing shit while I push the border and it fills in.
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>>144723859
I hope it doesn't. HoI3 was railroaded as fuck. Main thing I want them to fix is the border fuckups that happen and the map.
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>>144723231
He wasn't wrong, but he was a bit excessive.
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Has anyone else here Pelley'd yet?
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>>144721858
Every time you go to justify on a minor nation England will step in
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>>144723619
I answered this question in one of my other posts. /gsg/ is way better for modders because you can answer questions faster and people are more likely to report bugs or make suggestions when they can do it fast and anonymously. Also I want to make this mod avalible for pirates and they can't access the modding section on the forums.

>>144723731
The 2 years thing sounds pretty shitty but I don't wanna get involved with the shitstorm going on right now.

>>144723767
I know your just a shitposter but rob made his shitty vickymod tweak like 3 years after I stopped working on my mod. I can tell you though that not many of us actually left /gsg/, most of us still post anonymously. As for the steamgroup, they hated me and another modder from here. Turkslayer even tried to compete with us.
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>>144724357
Yeah this is the thing that pisses me off the most
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How do I remove the "We don't know enough about this region"?
It's making it impossible to invade Europe
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>italy didn't perform well in ww2
>a meme prevailed that they're shit
>later it was pointed out correctly, that it was in part the officers' fault
>now people are saying italians were super soldier commandos and dindu nothing, it was all the officers
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>>144724604
The meme is that they're shit AND untrustworthy
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All right, who wins this League War? I'm betting on Protestants.
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why is south america completely devoid of resources?
>42 steel in the entire south american continent
>200+ aluminum, but theyre both in European colonies
>weird monopolies like cuba with 160 chromium and bolivia with tungsten
>romania somehow has more oil than mexico
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>>144724604
>Italian Officers were neither a part of Army nor Italian
Unless this is true, I don't see how "the Italian Army was actually good, it's the officers who was retarded" makes any sense.
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Is the Hoi4 AI as bad as i've heard some people say it is?

I'm considering picking it up, but i don't want to support an unfinished game.
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>>144724604

Their divisione folgore, alpini, san marco marines, bersaglieri, most of their Artillery divisions were also specially chosen men.
If i remember correctly their San Marco marines also made the worlds first frogmen, and they've got a pretty good ship tonne:casualty ratio going on.

Shit tier soldiers included CCNN, anything driving a vehicle, and large portions of their regular infantry
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>Denmark historically conceded after 6 hours
>Germany AI can't even take Denmark in 6 months
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>>144724604
the truth is the italian army was average, maybe slightly above average in some aspects but their leadership was horrendous
>>
Any good mods for HoI4 yet?
If so, anyone got a link for them? I pirated the game.
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>>144725061
How will the dev finish the game if you don't support it?
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>>144725148
Its Paradox, not some poor indie company
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>>144724027
The Romanian-Russian border goes like this
river > hill > river > hill > river > hill
so they can't actually ever push into you


The AI is incompetent though, I would be surprised if someone won with Luxembourg.
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>>144725094
remember the 6* goy
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>>144725061
its fucking terrible

>>144725094
this for example, in my game Ive had Germany trying to annex the last of Denmark for 2 years and they still cant

germany also has no idea how to properly form pockets or even attack provinces that are only defended by a division or two

if I, as a minor nation, forcefully attack certain regions Im convinced germany wouldnt even take France by 1942
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>>144724604
>look up Italy major defeats
>Operation Compass
The British had 36,000 troops, Italy had 150,000.

The British end up with 500 or so casualty's

The Italy's lose 5,000 troops, 10,000 or so wounded and 133,298 captured. Holy fuck
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>>144725061
Don't. Just play 3 or DH
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well this was rather interesting
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>>144725061
It's better than HoI3, considering the game isn't railroaded and stuff with buffs for a "lucky nations".
>B-but Germany can't take France in a historical time frame
As they shouldn't, historical Fall Gelb was a pure luck.
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>>144725250
>its fucking terrible
can you go more in-depth to what makes it terrible?
>>
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=698703596&searchtext=

Can someone give me this mod. Thanks.
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How is hearts of iron? I've never played the series before. Does it have much diplomacy/empire stuff or is it just war because it's focused on WW2?
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>>144725351
Buy the game.
>>
Fuhrer mana stronk
>>
what country should i play in victoria 2 HPM?

i'm looking for a unique experience. a releasable nation would be cool
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>>144725061

Do the opposite of whatver /gsg/ tells you
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>>144725448
Poland
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>>144725321
How many German division are there? It looks like regular Barbarossa to me, can't wait for some autist to claim the game is broken because you defeated USSR as Romania.
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>>144725347
i litearlly gave you some points on how the strategical ai is terrible

naval inasions are also busted and the allies will only ever try the same 3 or 4 provinces in france so if you put your divions on them they'll literally never invade

AI germany also just does not care about air superiority in western europe and will let the allies carpet bomb everything with only AA

again, I don't think the AI is competent enough to even accomplish simple things in a reasonable time, like the fall of france, without player intervention
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>>144725351
http://steamworkshopdownloader.com/
<3
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I think...I made a mistake. Buying this.

At least Stellaris is fun, if a little unwieldly at the moment. HoI4...I just don't know.

I'm already tempted to get a refund. When is it that I can't get a refund anymore?

I can just wait till a sale. This game will be garbage till then, some thing just can't be improved.

Why did I fall for this? This shit isn't even done. And then on top, nothing really goes past 45, what the fuck.

I just don't get what was wrong with HoI2/DH's system.

>>144716070
Yuantong sounds like a lovely lady.
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>>144725321
Looks like some F2P title desu
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>>144725586
It was the first thing I tried, unfortunately.
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>>144725615
2 hours playtime I think? you are probably over it lol.
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>>144725559
> I don't think the AI is competent enough to even accomplish simple things in a reasonable time, like the fall of france
> fall of france
> simple things
Then again, the AI is competent enough to successfully defend against Germany as France.
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>>144725615
you can get a refund if its under 2 hours played

i say wait until the game has the eventual espionage DLC released, or some kind of depth added to the combat planning and organizing of military forces besides shoving everything into army groups

like fuck at least let me manually do naval and aerial invasions instead of having to fucking clear every bit of ocean between me and the target
>>
Are leaders immortal in HoI4? Mosley, Hitler and Mussolini have kept going and it's 1951.
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>>144725558
I honestly have no idea, i intended on just taking the Baltics and helping the allies but Russia attacked me and now this shit. its pretty amusing
>>
>>144725351
Don't be a criminal. If you think it's too expensive, don't buy it.
>>
>>144725448
>>144725508
play as krakow then form poland
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>>144725704
It isn't AI competence so much as AI incompetence on the part of Germany. How the fuck can the AI be so good at defending against Germany when Germany literally has no idea how to war? Germany should have 0 issues with rolling over France, with its superior industry and all the beneficial modifiers it gets to everything.

Fall of France SHOULD be a simple thing, in HoI3 it was one of the few things that literally could not be fucked up unless you intentionally sabotage it.
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>>144720145
>not using the SKIFs

What are you doing nigga. They make the game way way way better. Besides being nice as fuck to look at, the units look different, you can easily see at a glance what models are what, and what countries are participating in a battle.
>>
What's it called when you put a weak nation between two powerful nations to reduce tensions? Like Mongolia or Nepal, for example?
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>>144725559
>naval inasions are also busted and the allies will only ever try the same 3 or 4 provinces in france so if you put your divions on them they'll literally never invade
Because they need a port or they run out of supply, basically real life allies cheated the supply system by not invading any ports.
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>>144725657
based Johan slaying pedophiles
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As long as Melbourne stands, this isn't over.
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>tfw /gsg/ has devolved into HOI4 and EU4 posting
can you people fuck off to your own generals
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>>144725778
>dont be a criminal
>meanwhile half the mods are locked on the forums behind game keys like its USSR
Paradoxplaza pls go

>>144725893
I played it to death anon, KR lacks ability to adapt after ww2 fires.
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http://poal.me/ujok58
http://poal.me/ujok58
http://poal.me/ujok58
http://poal.me/ujok58

the poll to end all polls
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>>144725948
That's wrong though. I had the allies try a naval invasion on this one provice between brittany and the rest of northern france at least 30 times before they finally massed enough troops for it. It didn't have a port or anything on it, just an empty province.

They did of course try hititng actual ports but never with any serious force.
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>>144725998
This

We never should've gone past CK2. These faggots need to fuck off to the 4x General.
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>>144726030
where's Darkest Hour?
>>
What is Paradox making now, other than DLC?

They said they wouldn't make any more Victoria games.
HoI4 is brand new.
Stellaris is brand new.
EU4 is not that old.
CK2 is not that old.

Are they just a DLC company now?
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>>144726162
It got removed from the OP it's not GS anymore
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Which one is the cutest portrait?
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>>144726289
4
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>>144725685
>>144725714
Yep, 4 hours and something minutes.

I still don't get why the devs haven't taken Kaiserreich as inspiration when it comes to railroading vs freeform. Oh right, that requires actual work.

They all instead want to slurp gallons of Somali cum.

fml

How fucking hard is it to write a small event that actually distributes a country's territory in some sane way?

So much for doing a Muv Luv mod.
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>>144725921
Anyone? What's the term for a client state used to prevent friction between two neighbouring great powers?
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>>144726193
Paradox never expected stellaris to sell that well. They planned to snatch some shekels before HOI4's release and then abandon the game like sengoku.
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>>144726341
Buffer state

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_state
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>>144726289
1 tbqh

>>144726379
Thanks! Just slipped my mind for no discernible reason.
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>>144726193
If you make games casual enough it prints money anon

Also Stellaris was made by low cost interns and was unexpectedly profitable for them so we can actually expect a decent game in 2-3 years
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>>144726028
I said SKIFs.

SKIFs are those icons you can see for the units. That's what I meant.

>>144726193
IPO soon. They're all gonna go make their final batch of Jewgolds and then bail and leave us.

>>144726289
Western, Arabic, and Celt.

Even the Russian girl, let alone the women, they're more lewd than "cute". They have that intense kind of stare which screams that she wants to punish you.
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I want to fuck around with civil wars a bit.

What are the console commands for the ideologies?

I tried civil_war fascist/fascism ENG and it didn't work.
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>Commonwealth is still broken

Why Paradox? Why?
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>>144726462
I know what SKIFs are but if im finished with game some extra flair wont change it. I do appreciate the suggestion though.

>mfw Germany can absorb Austria and cores but Austria-Hungary absorbing Germany gives no cores and removes non Austria cores on A-H
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>>144726289
5th down
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any MEGA lads?
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>>144725882
The AI heavily favours the defense, since the defense AI is pretty good about keeping an even spread and prioritising areas of the front that are vulnerable. I don't know if it's so advanced as to put tanks onto flat ground and
The attacking AI is fucking retarded though. If you mouse over your invasion line thing it shows you the order that it will take provinces. However it doesn't deviate at all from that order, if there's a vacant province on the other side of a major river, it won't move up to take it. There's also some issues where if you manually create a bulge to try and flank around the offensive line could actually flip around and it will try to take everything behind the line while ignoring the things in between your front and your offensive line.
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>>144726326
>So much for doing a Muv Luv mod.
Don't break my heart anon
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>>144726708
Also France always does so well because the German AI really really likes attacking the maginot line.
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>>144725882
> Fall of France SHOULD be a simple thing
Why? Germany won not because of superior numbers and industry, but because French General Staff made a mistake of not having reserves and Guderian was crazy enough to keep pushing to the coast with his flanks exposed disregarding direct orders from German General Staff. Again, Fall Gelb was a pure luck, and without it the war on the west would have evolved into a slow meat grinder. I think there should be no fast Fall Gelb unless the player controls Germany and do it manually. Or it should happen, like, 1 in 10 times.
> in HoI3 it was one of the few things that literally could not be fucked up unless you intentionally sabotage it.
So you want more railroading? Why not railroad all the way up to 1945?
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>>144726479
>British Empire Fascists ever leaving the Empire
You Swedish cucks.
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>>144726289
In order from best to worst
7
1
6
5
3
2
4
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>>144726708
Defensive AI is crap,too

>Enemy attacks
>manages to start winning fights in one or two provinces
>Ai sends reinforcements to the other side of the map where not a single enemy unit is
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>>144726806
HoI games are supposed to be quite railroaded

Same as with Vicky 2 most challenge comes from overcoming the limitations and beating the odds.
All they had to do was make ai more adaptive to global politics
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why is HOI IV allowed here but Stellaris isn't?

stellaris is more GS than HOI IV
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https://www.reddit.com/r/paradoxplaza/comments/4mx3j0/is_it_me_or_does_latin_america_have_literally/

Wow really makes you think
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>>144727091
It's sad to say that this is somewhat true
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>>144726971
> HoI games are supposed to be quite railroaded
Well, yes, but in the political aspect, not in the military one. I think National Foci is a good idea and they actually make a good job of upholding the historicity without being HoI3-tier railroaded, but they can't influence combat directly.
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This game really sucks ass. At least in stellaris you still had to spam ships to win, all you do in this game is draw a line as gross germania then win the game

These games have really been shitty and started falling around CK2.
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>>144727274
Meant to reply to
>>144727091
Not even memeing. Stellaris is more complex than some areas of HOI4
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>>144726708
>The AI heavily favours the defense
Iv seen this too. AI does not attack flanks or use units which are behind the lines.

Get enough distance inside enemy lines and AI will not follow you.
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added to archive when?
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>>144726807
Are there any mods to fix the Commonwealth?
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>>144724735
>weird monopolies like cuba with 160 chromium and bolivia with tungsten
t. Gameplay
>200+ aluminum, but theyre both in European colonies
t. Multiplayer Balance
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>>144726971
You do realise the way WW2 happened was mostly due to pure luck? Allies could've said 'no, fuck off' to the anschluss or Czechoslovakia at any fucking time. One of the many assassinations attempts on Hitler could've actually succeeded. Mosley could've drawn more inspiration from Mussolini instead of Hitler and kept drawing in rebelling Tories and Labour members instead of going full gas the kikes.

A lot of historical WW2 happened only due to pure luck. We could've either not had a World War or had a very different one.
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>>144726479
>>144726807
>>144727545
>Commonwealth is broken

What did you lads mean by this?
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>>144727661
They explain it pretty simply.

Fascist Empire parties wouldn't leave the Empire.
The Empire is STILL poorly modeled and their connection is STILL wrong.
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>Britain can take the fortify hong kong option after losing hong kong
>it still builds the coastal forts
>the only way the AI ever gets there is through China
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>>144727136
Is this clown trying to build a tank army with Bolivia or something? all resources Denmark has are fish and butthurt and yet I defeated the nagzties
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>>144727091
Its not historical and /gsg/ has a boner for history
>>144727579
As i said anon - make it railroaded/event based like Kaiserreich but with ai actually being able to adapt around it
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I have free military factories but somehow they are red when I assign them to something, why?
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>>144727717
Oh, you mean Canada going 'Canadian Empire' and having the leaf flag and fucking off from you? I also supported fascists in the British Raj and it resulted in a 'Nationalist India' that fought both the British Raj AND me the guy who fucking supported them.
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>>144727579
Hearts of iron games have always been the most railroaded paradox game though. Even the least railroaded Hearts of Iron game, darkest hour, rarely strayed from history unless the player did.

>>144727776
Whenever I find earth in the industrial era I invade it to ruin some autist's Vicky game.
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>>144727776
>Its not historical

How is DISTANT WORLDS historical?
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>>144725746


why would they be dead. they werent that old dude
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>>144727836
They are damaged by bombings/partisans. You do remember to garrison the occupied states with Cav+MP divisions, do you?
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>>144727776
>Its not historical

Red Finland
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>>144727970
Distant Worlds doesn't really belong here either. The only reason we haven't kicked it out yet was because it wasn't a meme like aurora. We'll replace it with Vicky 3
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>>144727970
In 2 years here i didnt see a single Distant Worlds game here
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I honestly love hoi4
I've played it 18 hours straight, still going
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>>144727883
I mean how poorly Schisms between the British Nation.

Non-Communist Great Britain in a war against a democratically elected Fascist Australia, Canada or New Zealand?

Pre-Canada Act 1982, Pre-Australia Act 1986, and Pre-New Zealand Constitution Act 1986 is so poorly modeled by HOI it hurts.

On what bloody planet?
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kek
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>>144727776
I find it hilarious how I wasn't even going to give stellaris a chance till I finally gave into you faggots hyping it up here for months. Then when it finally came out i couldn't even discuss it here.
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

THE GOVERNMENT POWER IS ACTUALLY CALLED FUHRER MANA IN THE CONSOLE
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>>144728252
I'm not British so I don't know what those mean, can you explain briefly?
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i can't stop laughing at all the fucks on reddit who actually bought hoiv and stellaris
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So, to what extend can I change things if I appoint ministers who shill for other ideologies? For example, USSR has this Kerensky guy who shills for democracy, if I appoint him, can I turn USSR into a democracy, disband Comintern and joint Allies? Or will it just lead to a Civil War?
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>>144728393
Clearly jews designed this.

>oy vey goy it only takes two years of concerted effort to turn any country to any ideology!

Has anyone tried going hippie germanium to see how the AI breaks down?
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Why is there no option to play as Nicky in HOI4? This game sucks
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How the actual fuck do you get Russia to capitulate? I've taken Stalingrad, Moscow, and Leningrad and then a new capital all the way across Russia appears? No wonder I'll lose the war, I'll run out of man power and supplies before I can get there as Romania
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Is hoi4 really as casual as we excpected? Am I better off sticking to 3?
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>>144728576
It's worse
But the production system is nice
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>>144728576
not casual
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>>144728343
Before the British gave up on the Empire, there was a feeling of many of these countries as being part of "The British Nation".

I find it INSANE any of these Nations could un-ally with a non-Communist Great Britain without suffering MAJOR civil wars.

The Raj and South Africa are different stories however.
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>there's an empty province on the mongol/china border occupied by japan
>there's 4 chinese soldiers around it
>no one wants to take it
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>>144728576
If you already liked it, might as well stick to 3.
4 seems to basically be for people who didn't like 3. It has a few neat ideas but I still prefer 3 from my initial like 15 hours or so.
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>>144728712
>>144728836
it will only get better as more dlc comes out
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>>144728729
Even a Fascist Britain? With either of the two routes? (popular revolt or internal support for fascism)
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>>144728906
Probably.
But the DLC isn't out yet so what does it matter for now?
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>>144728906
Unless they fuck it up like CK2.
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>>144729004
I still think it's good the way it is
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>>144728724
thats the main thing I care about. As long as its not EU4 tier im sure I will like it
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>>144728960
British Fascism is based upon British nationalism

So they'd suck up MORE to "the British Nation".

British Fascism was non-interventionist and argued against war when it was not in defense of the British Empire and they wished to spread Corporatist policies across the Empire.
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>>144728906
>aztec invasion
>penguins invade from antarctica
>DLCs that give ideas to other nations
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>>144729081
>As long as its not EU4 tier
Oh boy have I got news for you.
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>>144729081
It is EU4 tier.

>>144728906
Just like CK2 and EU4, right?
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>>144728576
It's good but the AI and balancing needs a lot of work.
>>
Can we at least agree that HoI4 has sound mechanics and only lacks balance and better AI?
Because I personally think it's a good foundation upon which you can create a great game via mods and DLCs.
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>>144729327
I can't even tell if this is legit or just Johan
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>>144729126
So me playing as Fascist Britain under Mosley and not going with Hitler's war is actually accurate?
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just try it out for at least 6 hours and see if you like it
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>>144729327
Well baited. It's a step backwards from HoI3. That's the only thing to take away from it.
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Is this actually in the game?
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Oy vey, what are you doing, goyim?
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>>144729429
>HoI3
>good

I sure love replaying the exact same game over and over and over and over and over and over..

Compare it with DH/HoI2. Then it's actually a challenge.
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HoI4 have a LAN mode?
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Will the soviet union ever give up?
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>>144728330
what did u expect from the memers at paradox who brought you fascist australia as "empire of platypuses"
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>>144729327
Things Hoi4 needs:
tech teams
Chain of command
production experience feeding into tech somehow
removal/severe reworking of the combat manas (why do I need experience fighting naval battles to think of putting a better gun on my ships?)
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>>144729539
probably needs to be patched, same thing happend to me
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>>144729396
Correct.

Now if there was a way to integrate Australia, Canada and New Zealand I'd be happy.
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>>144729454
Why wouldn't it be?
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>playing on 1366x768
>can barely see the map with all the GUI in the way

What monitor should I get for the best reddit4 experience?
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>>144729429
> It's a step backwards from HoI3
National Foci >>> HoI3 railroading
Construction/Production management >>> HoI3 sliders
Division Designer/Experience >>> HoI3 tons of individual divisions with only 4 slots each
Combat mechanics in HoI4 is the same as in HoI3.
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>>144729539
why should they, you haven't even taken their oil fields

>>144729627
shitter
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>>144729665
Well I'm trying to coup Canada as we speak. Australia tried to have a fascist revolt but it's just like 3 provinces around Melbourne. I'm also disappointed at the British Dominions' fascist 'gimmicks'.

Fascist Canada is 'Canadian Empire'

Fascist Australia is even worse. It's called 'Empire of the Platypus'.
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>>144729767
>Empire of the Platypus
I don't believe you.
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>>144729839
look it it up, it's true
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>>144729767
Why are Paradox such ebin memers? Surprised they didn't put Jan Mayen in this game desu
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>>144729486
I didn't say HoI3 was good, reddit. I said HoI4 was a step backwards from HoI3. That alone should tell you enough.
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>>144729871
Are you fucking with me?

What the fuck.
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East vs West mod when?
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>>144729610
> tech teams
They actually have these, you can appoint companies and ministers for research buffs.
> Chain of command
Can't see how it would fit into the current scheme.
> production experience feeding into tech somehow
This would be good.
> removal/severe reworking of the combat manas (why do I need experience fighting naval battles to think of putting a better gun on my ships?)
Because this is how things worked, you can't know the best division composition/organisation without fighting any actual wars, see the Winter War. Neither can you know the week points of your designs without trying them in combat.
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>>144729908
>>144729839
>>144729883
I literally made a post with my map here and it shows the Empire of the Platypus. >>144723412

At least Fascist Britain gets an accurate name. British Empire is pretty good imo.
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>be Republican Spain
>end up being communist of course
>Defeat falangists
>have a lot of divisions so I put them over the pyrinées
>Justifying a war against Portugal
>Brits guaranteeing FREEDUMS
>fucking III REICH (three richards) asking me to JOIN AXIS as COMMUNIST SPAIN
>say YES
>Invade Portugal
>Invade half of France
>for some reason vichy France and directly German controlled areas go historical
>even though I took 60% of France
>I only get something beyond the pyrinees and only in Vichy France territory
>Vichy France isn't even my puppet, it's Germany's
>exit the Axis

Now what, I'm still at war with britland, trying to make communist uprisings everywhere
Why is this game so stupid?
>inb4 johan
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>>144730067
>he didn't preoder the logic DLC or pirated the complete overhaul 2 GB mod
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>>144728108
nah ive seen them but they're pretty rare though
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game im currently playing as fascist netherlands, i started ww2 with the dutch invasion of belgium. Germany is still at war with Poland and Denmark.

Nationalist spain actually won the civil war but they didnt join the axis in time to invade France from the south
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>open console
>type fuhrer_mana [amount]
>it actually gives you fuhrer mana
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>>144728562

>thinking Russia would have ever capitulated even had they lost those cities IRL

Enjoy marching to the Urals.
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>>144730018
>infantry do some fighting
>can now upgrade tank engines
It's fucking retarded
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>>144730369
Stalin was ready to call for an armistice if Moscow was captured
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>>144729924

Believable worlds pls buy ;^)
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>>144730420
he was also a lunatic that ordered the NKVD to shoot random Muscovites, just to show how bad it'll be once Germans arrive, he could just as easily have reneged on that armistice.
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>>144730018
t. platypus pro
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>>144730420

Yeah bullshit, Stalin didn't care for anything but victory, even if it tore the country apart.
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>>144730050
>>144723412
>It's real
PARADOX!!!!!!
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>>144730420
He was willing to fucking burn Moscow if it meant killing more Germans. He is one of the most ruthless men in history. At least Hitler cared for the Germans. Stalin plain didn't give a fuck and was willing to do anything to win.
>>
Hoi4 is the best facebook game i've ever played
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>>144730374
It's not retarded, it makes sense, it just needs more polish, like separate categories of military experience, but then you'd get bogged down in trying to get your unit orders just right and fighting specific battles to gain tech exp.
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>>144730641
What's your name on Facebook ? I wanna visit your war theatre and give your soldiers some golden hearts so they they can keep on fighting
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>>144730607
> Hitler cared for the Germans
Nice meme. If he'd cared for Germans he'd killed himself in 1944.
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they even got the color right
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>>144730696
Oh do not worry my friend, i buy golden hearts whenever i need them. Long live paradox
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>>144730171
>Nationalist spain won the civil war
How? Even after giving them a fuckton of lend-lease I had to do all the work myself with one SS-division and a Panzer division.
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>>144730726
>Jewish commandos
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Ok does anyone know how to get this smartsteamemu shit working for LAN.

We cant seem to connect to each toher but we can see each others games.
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Should I help Hanz defeat commies or just watch?
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How do fleets work in HoI4 ?

I dont see any fleet caps on admirals. Should I just doomstack ships in one big ass fleet ?
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>>144730731
that is a player made faction right

>>144730850
no idea, wasn't paying attention to them while i was industrializing and fighting a civil war. When I played as Spain I actually easily won the Civil War because if you elect Francisco Franco you can join the Axis before the Civil War starts, and call Germany to arms.
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>>144730969
You should help defeat the commies, Moscow is obviously Polish territory.
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>>144730969
help but take all clay for yourself.
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>>144728108
then you must be blind. I've seen it posted at least 3 times the past week. it rarely leads to much discussion, but there are anons who still play it.
>>
In Hearts of Iron 3, diplomacy was incompleted and flawed
In Hearts of Iron 4, diplomacy does not even exist
ty Johan
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>>144730969
so if im looking at this correctly you're fascist and created your own faction, right? Germany will probably still invade you then
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Who the fuck is this and why does he rule so many places?
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>>144731167
It was shitty and pointless even in HOI2.
>>
Can anyone figure out how to replace generic portraits with unique portraits?

So far the portrait file destination seems to be defined in the history files, so there's no way to add replace the portraits without copying the entire history file (i.e. shit mod compatibility)
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BRAVO PARADOX
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>>144730726
>1 million in residential bombinb
>3.2m in 'Allied' prisons
>~3m as part of Ethnic Cleansing by the East bloc
>5.7m killed by starvation in the west
Wow, we were monsters.
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>>144731248
Also since the entire history file has to be editted, it also ruins the checksum

I'm thinking it's Paradox's way of preventing user mods adding portraits which will make nobody buy their portairts DLC
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>>144730479
And who was going to fight for him?
Assuming he lived
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>>144731367
W-what?!..remember the 6 gorillion goy, totally deserved!
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>>144731367
those numbers are a heavily inflated, for example, the 3mil death toll in the expulsion is just...

Even the germans claim "the original supported claim" of 2mil was too high and 600k is more realisitc (and most historians support that number)
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>>144719039
invade Ireland
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>>144730657
Which is why researching seperate armour etc make more sense
>>
>>144731419
>>144731248
Its definitely possible, there are mods on the workshop which have changed portraits which are multiplayer and ironman mode compatible, however I have no idea. You're probably better off asking them than us.
>>
>almost 1943
>denmark has gained territory
>poland still exists
>germany has taken paris, but nothing else, and the maginot still exists
>italy got run over by france
>germany is losing ground to france in austria
>japan is pretending to be portugal and make a snek all the way to inberia
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>>144731510
Oh well then if Merkel's Khanate says not that many germans died, and the honorable historians Dr. Shekel and Mr. Stein agree, that settles it then :^)
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>>144731617
screenshots when
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>>144731589
I think all of those mods simply replace an existing portrait image (like the Hitler one), so it won't ruin checksum

But I'm talking about replacing a generic nation leader's portrait to a non-generic one, which requires editing the history files
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Holy shit the AI is so fucking stupid
DEFEND YOUR COAST GERMANY YOU IDIOT. IT'S NOT ITALY'S JOB TO DEFEND YOU
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AI is a joke, France just let me walk all over them!
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You're at the bar and this motherfucker launches a coup d'etat. What do?
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where is the button to automate everything lads? don't tell me wiz didn't put one in so he could wank over his ai
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>>144731663
Maybe this is what you're looking for? It has the portrait image files of all the leaders.
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>>144731639
I'm sure you righteous people can do something about it.

Like, getting an actual degree in history and reading primary sources or something jewish like that.
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>>144731814
forgot screenshot
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>HOI IV
>grand strategy
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>>144731983
I agree HOI IV discussion should be exported to the wargaming general
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>>144718415
Kek this. I started in 1939 as Germany so I could get a feel for the action. I allied with USSR and Poland and wrecked allied shit.
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>>144731854
>an actual degree in history
As if you have one.
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>>144732204
no, but I'm sure the guys at the Deutsches Historisches Museum have you shitter
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>>144731983
Fuck off animeposter.
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>>144731710
>AI is a joke, France just let me walk all over them!

But thats what actually happend historically
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大日本帝国はドイツ先でStalingradに行くぞ!

Fall of "Monarch Killers" the communists, will make for Co-Prosperity Sphere the great benefit.

我は官軍我が敵は
天地入れざる朝敵ぞ
>>
Is there a historical flag mod for IV yet?
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>>144731983
>>144732142
t. Rob
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>>144732601
Spend your Yellow Star mana.
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>>144732625
t. arrowpro
>>
Do i always leave my army on exercise if im not at war
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>>144732612
The only unhistorical flag is the German one, and mod for it is the most subscribed mod for now.
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FPS drop from ~60 to ~24 after Soviet Union declared war towards the axis.
Just too many battles to simulate.


I need a cloud-HoI.
Game is great though, famalams.
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>>144732832
no, turn it off once they get to the point where they arent gaining any more experience
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>>144732497
t. Reddit pro
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i pirated the codex release and when i try to launch it, it finishes, i can hear the music etc. But, the game doesnt come up, all i see is my deskop/browser etc. What do?
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I played HOI4 for about half an hour before I literally couldn't take it anymore.

I decided to play as Communist China, which lacks unique national focuses by the way. Right around the time of the Marco Polo Bridge Incident, I successfully started a communist revolt in Nationalist China. With the Nationalists split down the middle, the revolt won.

It created the "Chinese People's Republic", with Mao as its leader, that inherited Nationalist China's hostile attitude towards me since I had cores on all of its territory.

Then I stopped playing and refunded the game.
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>>144731983
I've puppeted Croatia, how do I give it Bosnia in the peace screen?
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>>144732854
Nope there are many other unhistoricla flags like China and Japan.
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>>144732730
Can't hide the truth.
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>>144733581
you can give and ask for states in diplomacy menu
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>Stellaris had 60k players during the first week after release
>HOI4 has only 40k
Podcat on suicide watch.
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Well, played until 1944 as Turkey -> Neo-Ottoman Empire. Took Greece, Bulgaria, some of Romania and Yugoslavia. Was going to help Germany with Russia, but Italy fucked up in Africa so I had to save them. I sent my armies into the heart of Africa, and three~ years and 500k in attrition losses later, I captured all of Africa from the Allies. No real desire to play HOI IV again for another year or two. Although its about as broken as Stellaris, Stellaris seems like a much better game.
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>It costs 7200 production to build a civilian factory.

>It costs 3600 production to build a military factory and 2000 extra to convert it to civilian.

Why should I ever build civilian factories instead of converting military factories?
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>>144734285
is stellaris a good game though
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>>144734376
Wrong thread
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>>144715337
Reminder to kill yourself.
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>>144734285
Wrong thread
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>>144734285
stellaris has broader appeal. hoi4 will get fewer sales, but the people who buy it are more likely to be good goy-I mean established fans who will buy all the dlc. your random joe who bought stellaris might not buy any dlc
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>playing Japan
>first game so I kind of fuck up my invasion of China and it ends up being slower than it should have
>because it lasts for years and they have a single general across the entire front to my 3 different army groups with different leaders their shitty rank 1 general ends up being a rank 7 with like 6 different bonus traits and better than any of my leaders
well that made it a real pain in the ass, I pretty much had to completely drain their manpower and take the entire country before they collapsed
well at least I learned my lesson
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How easy is it to leave a faction? I want to join the Axis, help them fuck up the US, and then leave. How easy is it?
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>Played HoI4 for 3 hours
>it's shit
>still got a refund

Feels bretty gud
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>>144722413
>replying to b8

Go back to paradoxplaza
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>>144734780
Wow rude
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I like HOI4 so far.
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I like Stellaris so far.
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I like March of the Eagles so far.
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So how many years am I going have to wait for HoI4 to be playable? est.
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Chances of me getting this pile of shit refunded?
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Johan is a pretty cool guy.
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>>144734935
me too.
Everything is going to shit since the US entered the war. invasions in africa and spain.

Love it. I was afraid there wouldnt be any challenges after seeing some of the streams.
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And so the world became a meme.
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>>144735152
3 years+

Depends on how fast a competent mod team can fix the most obvious broken stuff, DLC will introduce/break the rest.
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>>144735159
>6 hours

not likely
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>>144735216
Is the navy stuff any good?
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>>144735159
>6 hours

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>144735216
It's not like HOI3 was balanced. I've seen Japan take Siberia like five times in that.
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>>144735152
Well EU4 is still unplayable after how many years?

On the other hand, dlc made CK2 much better much more quickly. Then it broke the game.
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Getting the whole eastern euro gang on the same page against the soviet union feels good man
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Ey me lads can we talk about Liquoria 2 again
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>3d map
>seemingly flat terrain
>tfw its mountains
>tfw you got your ass kicked by greeks
i'm fucking killing myself
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How do you find province ids in hoi4?
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>>144735438
Open terminal and type showid I think
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>>144735517
no
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>>144734362
Time
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>>144734671
Judging from the streams, you can literally just hop in/out of the faction with clicks.
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>forced to export my resources
>i'm literally exporting and importing rubber at the same time
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wew
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>>144735938
It happens irl
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intra-industry_trade
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Guys, I just noticed that Hearts of Iron 4 is listed as being developed by a completely different company than Paradox's usual team, with a legal name that has only a slight difference.

>http://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=Paradox%20Development%20Studios

>http://store.steampowered.com/search/?developer=Paradox%20Development%20Studio

I want to say it's only a typo, but fucking up legalese on the official store page on launch day doesn't fit Jewhan's style. What the hell?
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>>144736229
But why the fuck would I want to export something so vital to my nation's survival?
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Anyone know how to stop divisions clustering into meaningless shit when zooming out?
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Jesus christ apparently it is impossible to multiplayer with the 3DM or CODEX version

Server ID is always = 0
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>>144734708
Yeah, same. Steam is pretty good when it comes to this
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>>144736350

There's no way buddy guy, get used to it
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>>144735216

Now the Germans just have to drain the Mediterranean.
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>>144736169
>Sergei Badanov
Who the fuck is that...i cannot find that person online
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>people actually bought HoI4
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>>144736301
free trade is the right side of history, fascists btfo
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>>144735430
Hello my fellow Mussolini
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On HOI IV can the Soviets revert to a monarchy? What happens if they turn Facist?
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pirated HoI 4
dissapointed that there are only 2 scenarios - 1936 and 1939
Why couldn't they add a scenario for each year of the war like in the previous games, so I can test how the actual warfare works so i don't spend years building my force, then realize it's absolute dogshit and restart the game?
also, it's laggy as fuck with all 3D shit turned off, without them, it looks ugly as shit.
Needs a map and a counter mod to actually make it fucking playable and not a sore to the eyes. Interface is horrible.
Glad I didn't buy this shit.
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>>144736510
paradox just invents stuff when they feel lazy
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>>144736276
johans laundering his shekels
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>Starting a Paradox game for the first time
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>>144736914
press Play to play.
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>>144736914
>casual and his HoI IV babby starter kit
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>>144736787
They don't want you to test the combat system because then you might get a refund
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>>144718336
i hate these fucking faggots so much

how about not being a dumb nigger? i never use the tutorial, and i'm not even well versed in these fucking games

i started playing victoria 2 maybe a week back, i can somewhat incompetently muck about now

took me maybe two-three hours to get the gist of what every button does in hearts of iron 4, although i admit i have no fucking idea what's up with the >arrows
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belgica must be GROSS
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Who comfy fascist state here? I'm just sitting here, building up and stockpiling nukes while I watch the world go to hell. Partly my fault with all my coups though. ;^)
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>>144737126
>switzerland exists
>>
top kek

Germans who buy the game on Steam get the uncensored version. Someone should phone Berlin and tell them about this.
Sweden will burn before the day is even over. HoI IV real life edition


I just hope von der Leyen doesn't fall for the meme arrow battleplan bullshit
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>>144737194
>He's not neutral
lmao
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>>144737254
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>>144737201
Von der Leyen is such an incredibly inept minister of defense, even with the meme arrows she'd fail to invade Sweden because the extra logistics of soldiers bringing their wives and kids and dogs and cats with them in the invasion would be too much too handle.
I want zu Guttenberg back
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>>144737353
Nice manpower cheat
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>>144737194
>>144737254
>fighting a war in which no matter who you side with Britannia loses anyway
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>>144737372
He did nothing wrong.


And who cares about him cheating everyone does it.

>hur dur don't get caught
I also liked Struck
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>>144737464
>>144737537
>cheat

Do you have any idea how many men the UK has available? I don't just have the isles but all the African colonies as well.

Also for some reason I didn't get a (You) even though that's my post. I want my (You)s.

Actually play the game up to the 50s and then tell me I'm cheating.
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>>144737537
I care about him cheating to be honest, but I'm a moralfag.
What I care about more though, is him being one of the best ministers of defense we had since the whole nazi thing, he was loved by the troops because he acted and made political decisions like he cared about them, reformed the army etc.
Zensursula von der Leyen is just a headline hungry carreer politician who doesn't care about anyone but himself.
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>>144737668
Here is a free you senpai
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>>144736787
Gotta buy the DLC for more scenarios, goy
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>>144737668
I meant cheating at this PhD
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How should I build my navy as USSR if I plan to fight Axis? Which type of ships should I spam? I have no desire to rule the waves, the furthest I'm going to venture is Japan home islands.
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How the fuck do I put soldiers into ships? I have transport ships researched but I can´t construct them anywhere. What does even the production do anyway? For example for aiplanes it says 3/week. Does it mean I get three planes every week randomly divided to my airports?
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>>144737763
>himself
Just fuck my shit up
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>>144737763
The problem is that our educational system is pure shit and the international scientific programs are just quick cash grabs. As long as everyone just does it for the shekels it's going nowhere
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>>144733185
maybe this?
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>>144737880
Our educational system is pretty compared compared to most of the world.
Too bad all the recent reforms have just made things worse. G8 was an absolutely retarded thing to do just to get people onto the market one year earlier.
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>>144737840
> How the fuck do I put soldiers into ships?
You don't, they automatically use convoys to transport, just move them wherever you want. The only difference is naval invasion which you have to plan and execute.
>What does even the production do anyway?
It produces shit.
>For example for aiplanes it says 3/week. Does it mean I get three planes every week randomly divided to my airports?
It means 3 planes are being produced every week and put in understrength airwings and in reserve is there are no such airwings.
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Where's the 'leave faction' button?
>>
what are the current opinions of HOI4 now that at least some of you have played it?
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>>144738117
You're here forever anon.
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>>144738010
Guess it depends on federal state and university but so far I haven't been impressed really. Gymnasiums are attended by monkeys, abitur is piss easy and universities are schools without actually being phyically present
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>faction buddy gives me expeditionary forces
>it's literally his entire army
>suddenly 50 units without any orders
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>>144738136
It's not bad. There's a lot of hate here, but that's mostly just the standard 4chan meme of "everything new is bad".
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>>144738136
It's shit. 8/10
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Superior Faction
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Kaiserreich when?
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>>144738136
don't buy. I am serious, it's shit
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>>144738136
Better than HoI3, worse than Darkest Hour.
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>>144738136
It's unironically terrible, I regret buying it.
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>can't have your airforce push up with your army when you press the go forward button without microing it every 2 seconds
What's point?
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This game is so fucking boring how do you faggets even play this
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>>144738136
Much better than HoI3. Still don't buy it unless you're playing multiplayer but I'd suggest that for literally any game.

>2016
>paying for entertainment
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>>144738136
It's good, there are some problems, AI is derpy sometimes, but nothing critical. I think they've found a good balance between sandboxiness and HoI3-tier railroadiness with National Foci.
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>>144738439
>Much better than HoI3
Hello /r/paradoxplaza! Did all those complicated abstract ideas like actual strategy make the other HoI games too complicated for poor little EU4 babby?
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>>144738136
It's ok, there are some problems with it but it's better than stellaris at least
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>>144738526
No, HoI3 was easy as fuck. It's not complicated. It's just boring as watching paint dry. I'm a GS autist, and why would I want to play a game where I can't control my politics and make artistically pleasing borders? Granted, HoI4's map is hardly pleasing to the eye but the gameplay is an improvement. HoI3 was just replaying WW2 over and over and over and over again.
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>>144738136
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTqhyHuKVKA

Ouya/10 bad
>>
What is with all the fucking shills here? How could anybody play this piece of shit and come out with absurd statements such as 'it's good'

>gameplay is an improvement
Yep, drawing arrows and watching the AI do all the work is so fun

>'m a GS autist

no you're not, you're a fucking shill. Make it less obvious next time.
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>>144738136
>shit AI
>politics absolutely butchered
>empire-of-the-platypus tier historical accuracy
>being able to only own entire states is retarded
>can't have accurate post-war borders because only state borders have a semblance of historical accuracy, so modern mods are literally impossible without modding the actual map
>even some of the war borders are impossible
>drawn portraits means a lot of people get generic portraits instead of their own photo as it used to be
>many more I can't remember
Other than that, the game isn't bad.
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>>144738693
> Yep, drawing arrows and watching the AI do all the work is so fun
You can move your troops manually, m8, you don't have to draw arrows if you don't like them.
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>>144738693
People who actually liked HoI3 should fuck off to 4x where you can aimlessly point soldiers around with no politics at all.
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>>144738136
The biggest problem is how bad the AI is.
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>>144738831
>You can move your troops manually, m8, you don't have to draw arrows if you don't like them.

That might be a good strategy if the map wasn't so fucking shit and hard to use. WHy didn't they just keep the HoI 3 map?

>>144738879
>Winning ww2 by drawing 5 arrows is grand strategy

Fuck off reddit.
>>
Now that the dust has settled: How good is HOI4?
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>>144738831
You literally lose like 50% of your attack bonus if you don't do an arrow.
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>>144738928
>literally arguing in favour of the most atrocious map of a Paradox game
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>>144739000
At least you could actually see what the fuck was happening in every province
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>>144738928
>HoI 2/DH was any different
You can play China with 300 belligerence and nobody will give a shit
>>
this is fairly comfy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01bpkjn
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>>144738623
>play a game about ww2 over and over
>be surprised when you replay ww2 over and over
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>>144738931
very good, buy Field Marshal Edition
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>>144738967
You can do an arrow, get the bonus, and then move your troops manually without executing the order. Then again, bonuses for planning make perfect sense, as entrenchments bonuses do.
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>>144738931
Read the thread you monumental faggot.

>>144739042
That's a UI problem, not a map one.
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Reminder HOI4 has only 483 unique minister portraits, compared to 17,524 in Darkest Hour, and 17,698 in HOI3, and this doesn't even take into account identical men wearing different suits; so the actual title is probably even lower.

proofs:

http://imgur.com/a/YZ9kb
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>>144738967
in addition troops will ignore your orders if the AI feels like it
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>>144739042
HoI4 just needs simplified terrain mapmode, I bet they'll patch it in soon.
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>>144739160
How could they be this fucking lazy? And more importantly, why are paradrones defending this blatant moneygrab?
>>
how the fuck do i use "tactics"

i unlock all these fancy tactics, how do i employ them? obviously i must be doing something wrong since it's literally impossible for my vastly superior forces to break the borders of france even when given infinite time
>>
Ok, lads, serious question: in a mod giving people their actual photos, do you want all photos to be black and white or would you be ok with a mix of b-w and colour?
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>>144739265
>"tactics"
they're applied automatically in battles
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>>144739160
>Shitty cropped photos
>Don't even fit in the general graphical style of the game
>Portraits
Then again, why is this even important.
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>>144739160

jesus fucking christ
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>>144739226
のヮの
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>>144738240
Gymnasien are attended by monkeys, it's true. But the sad thing is those monkeys are still the Bildungselite of our country. I know a guy who goes to a Berufsschule. The people there who used to go to a Hauptschule are of a caliber of stupid I never knew actually existed.
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>>144739319
I'd personally prefer black and white for everything desu lad
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>>144739374
>Then again, why is this even important.
It's called having standards.


Shame paradrones like you don't have any.
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>>144739319
You should keep it consistent, either all color or all bw
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>>144738136
It's better than I thought, but they need to make it possible for the post-war borders to not look like complete fucking memeshit
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>>144739328
jesus fucking christ so what am i supposed to do, just stare at the fucking garbage ai since manually controlling my troops gives them ridiculous percentage disadvantages? they couldn't even make the arrow drawing somewhat fun by including all the shitty """""""""""tactics""""""""""" ??? what the ufkc
>>
>>144739435
Yeah it's really sad and it doesn't get any better at the universities

At least this explains why Paradox's new titles are so popular
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>>144739540
stop playing right now and demand a steam refund, the longer your playtime is the less likely they will refund it.

That is, if you fell for the hype and bought the pile of shit
>>
>attacking with 50 divisions of hightech troops
>enemy has 3
>fighting in open terrain without defense
>''this battle will end in 400 days''

Bravo Johan
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>>144739540
pls by dlsee
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Is there any point to not going free trade, it doesnt seem to have any negatives to it compared to the others
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>multiplayer
bravo johan
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How is HoI if you turn off the historical mode? Does the AI go balls to the wall retarded? Is it worth playing?
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i enforced claims on austrian clay and france leapt into the defense of yugoslavia, i defeated yugoslavia easy but how do i end the war with france? they don't attack me and if i attack them i lose 100k soldiers within a month while the french lose 11? i want to resolve the war, or is that not actually necessary, can i just stay in war with france and keep reiching on?
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lets replace 17 thousand photo with 800 picture i draw

-johan andersson
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>>144739265
Tactics are used automatically in battle and has nothing to do with the AI.
There's an attacking and defending tactic and you basically roll a dice to see what tactic you get, higher skill generals get better tactics and have a chance to choose a tactic that counters the enemy's tactic dealing extra damage.
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>>144739806
They said in the stream Johan stormed into the development room early on and said that there was no way there would be real life pictures in the game
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>>144739160
>17,524 of irrelevant countries vs 483 of countries people actually play
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>>144739540
>He doesn't know how tactics work
>He never played HoI3
Typical HoI4 hater.
>>
Why the fuck does the AI keep giving all their goddamn soldiers to the war leader leaving heir own country defenseless?
Like goddamn in the current war Germany has almost 500 divisions while Italy has fucking 4.
and when Yugoslavia had like 10 provinces left and were surrounded by Germany, barely holding the line they kept asking me if I wanted their entire goddamn army.
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>>144739882
>paradox give us so much great content, they can afford to be lazy
t. paradrone
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>>144739882
>having no standards whatsoever

Enjoy paying for the DLC goy
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>>144739160

ty honoka
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>>144739897
That's fine and all, but considering they force you to use the arrow shit it would be nice if they enhanced the arrow shit by incorporating a pre-existing system into it
>>
>allies can't stop giving me volunteer troops
>''Hey Italy!, can you give me half your country for nothing?
>''Sure - Go ahead my friend! It's all yours now!''
>''Don't mind me getting my capital invaded by 2 french divisions who get to take the entire south with no work''
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What do? I'm fucking around as non-aggressive (relatively) Germany just to see what happens.
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>>144739997
The thing is that even on their own forums people are bitching about a lot of things and for once they have more Agrees that Respectful Disagrees
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>>144740002
it's one of the top posts on r/paradoxplaza
>>
Why do tanks sound like the top shooting off a bottle of coke with mentos in it?
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>>144739590
Our elementary school system is fucked.
Boys are forced to act like girls, always be quiet, sit down, be stifled in their development.
rip
>>144739540
Holy shit is this the average hoi4 hater?
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>>144740064
you can "influence" it by picking generals with traits like Panzer Leader, Trickster, etc
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>>144740089
>non aggressive
2 puppets
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>>144740089
Bottom
>>
johan (based)
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>>144739997
>lowres shitty cropped photos
>standards
I unironicaly prefer the game to have less portraits, drawn in uniform stile that works well with the style of the game, over lots of low-quality crops.
>>144740064
So you still don't understand how tactics work, don't you?
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>>144740094
Look at the steam reviews for it. Nearly all positive about the piece of shit. all the negative reviews have '2 out of 30 found this helpful'.

>>144740129
>Holy shit is this the average hoi4 hater?

Is it some sort of wacky new meme to shill for Paradox?

>I'm only pretending to be retarded xd
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>>144740195
>>144740223
Puppets it is then.
>>
>France keeps its outer territories when it surrenders
Simply epic, Johan. Not like that changed how a lot of the war turned out or anything.
>>
johan (not based)
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>>144740239
(You)han
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>>144739160
Imagine the size of that folder if everyone had their pics.
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So, after almost 24 hours, the game is good or not, whats the consensus.
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>>144740258
>works well with the style of the game
Yep, totally makes sense for this one fucker to be President of all of the South American countries.

I suppose it does fit with the simplified and dumbed down style of the game.
>>
JOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
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Not a single encirclement was made.
Didn't got the 50% battleplan bonus either, just manually attacked.
All I did was have my troops train for 1 year. No brigade attachments.
Only outnumbered them by 3-4 divisions. My general's skill was 3.

Nice game Paradox.
>>
Okay /gsg/ I wanna mod HoI 4 and fix the retarded shit like the empire of the platypus etc. where should I start? Do you have any ideas what should I fix?
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>>144740371
You are late. We are already gathering in front of Johan's house to purge him with pitch forks and torches
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>>144740436
so it's good or not, johan deserves to die anyway.
>>
pls post ddrjake's ebin Red Dragon blob
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>>144740398
> Only outnumbered them by 3-4 divisions
> Out of 15
So you outnumbered them by 30%, had 25% bonus because your troops were better trained and 15% bonus because of general's skill, and you managed them manually. No shit, the game is broken.
>>
To those who played beyond the end date, do you know if Heads of government/state ever change or expire? Or is immortal Hitler ruling the German Reich for an eternity?
>>
Why couldn't they have just included the OoB lads? It's almost my favourite part of this autism.
>>
>>144740742
Lol I haven't but of course they dont change or expire, they live forever
>>
There is LITERALLY no reason to play HoI4 over DH
>>
>>144740996
desu, I'd love to play KR with the national focus system.
>>
>>144740996
Yep, but Paradrones are still going to buy it

>>144741052
I prefer being able to use actual strategy than being able to pick some national foci, most of which do nothing noteworthy.
>>
>>144740113
Maybe that's what they used
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>>144740996
Yeah but DH looks so old
>>
So its official then, Stellaris won
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>>144741052
this holy shit
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>>144740996
There is. I don't run a toaster. I run Windows 8.1 so that game literally doesn't work in window mode on my system and you are a hundred percent certified cuckold if you aren't playing a Paradox game in window mode.
>>
>>144741245

but friend, you're the kekold for using Windows 8.1
>>
>>144740996

But hoi4 is more fun
>>
>>144741245
>you are a hundred percent certified cuckold if you aren't playing a Paradox game in window mode.

?????

I can't wait to see how you explain this
>>
>>144741170
>DH strategy
>Drag click over province, right click enemy, attack.
>Drag click over other provinces bordering enemy, right click, support attack.
gr8 strategy.
>>
Hoi4 is so fucking autistic dude like fucking come on
holy shit
There's fucking divisions everywhere and it's a pain in the ass to command them manually
I don't even knowhow to fucking make my army move, IT WONT FUCKING MOVE I GAVE IT A BATTLE PLAN

GOD FUCKING DAMNIT FUCK THIS
AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF DAMNED BOXES ON THE ENTIR EMAP PREVENTING ME FROM CLICKING
SCREW THIS

AND YOU KNOW WHAT'S RETARDED?
I JUST STARTED A GAME WITH CHEATS AS AUSTRIA AND GERMANY STILL BEAT ME JUST BECAUSE THEY HAD 6 MORE DIVISIONS
I LITERALLY HAD ALL SMALL ARMS RESEARCHED
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i thought it would have been bigger..
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>>144741486
Welcome to a GSG game

The UI is the real enemy
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>>144741453
Not even remotely true you thick cunt.

You had to do encirclements etc to win.


Now, in Hearts of Universalis 4, all you need to do to win is draw an arrow, execute order (after getting the 50% arbitrary bonus) and watch the AI win.

gr8 strategy
>>
>>144741369
It doesn't work on Windows 7 either, lad.

>>144741378
With games and paradox games in general and if you are a grown man you will have other things to do in the mean time that you will want to do alongside your game or at least until a research happens or an event is meant to be fired off. If you are staring at a screen with nothing happening and you not being involved it's like watching a nigger fuck your wife. Same concept.
>>
>>144741643
Have you considered buying a second monitor you pleb?
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>>144737823
Naval Bombers
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>>144739160
was a great idea to pay some deviantartist to handpaint all those great pictures
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>>144741643
DH works on 7
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>>144741643
>HoI4 is made for people who want to browse reddit and play at the same time

That explains it.
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>>144741835
Not in window mode.

>>144741718
>a second monitor
>for a fucking paradox game
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>>144741932
No you poorfag I'm saying having a second monitor for general use
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>>144741932
>Not in window mode.
Yes it does, you have to change to 16 bit though.
>>
>play France
>become fascist
>Philippe Pétain becomes ruler
>name changes to Vichy France
What? Why would and independent France, in 1936, be "Vichy France"?
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>>144719039
mate
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>>144738136
Its good and fun to play. AI is bad so I hope they fix it.

Worth a pirate but not 40 dollars at the current state. After patches and DLC it could be good if you got it cheap
>>
Game seems decent at first glance but after two quick games I think there are some pretty bad balance problems like how Denmark managed to hold out in Copenhagen for 2 years with 4 divisions against 60+ german forces banging on the door. Or how divisions with 0.01 organization still can hold a province against 6 of mine for some reason. That later part might just be my incomptence but still

That being said I really like the factory system a lot more than HOI 3 had and the focus system aint that bad either, especially on the nations with dedicated focuses.
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>>144742185
>rajani
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>playing germany
>capture paris, win war, create vichy
>only syria goes to vichy
>some french scatter provinces left in frace to clean up
>soviet union magically owns them the next day

What the fuck? How did the soviets get any of that, France wasn't even communist.
>>
Bonapartist mod when?
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>>144742184
Basic lack of research and depth over at Paradox HQ dude
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not grand strat but for rts peeps homeworld remastered formation patch just went live
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is hoi4 retard friendly?
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>>144742339
Soviet volunteers.
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>>144742416
I have Down Syndrom and conquered the planet as Ulm.
So: Yes.
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We are in the same war retard
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>>144742540
I want to play as Italy and I've never touched a hearts of iron game before.
Should I try another country to get the basics down first?
>>
>>144742416
Yes,just play or watch tutorials


What would be the best course of action for Japan? Im scared to go against USA and China finally capitulated 1938. I imagine I could easily take British Rajs and French soul.

Is taking on USSR wise a decision?
>>
>>144742527
What the fuck, I don't get to keep parts of Spain just for standing in them when one side loses the war.
>>
>Ricky has technology trading and the ability to trade provinces
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>>144741245
It does work in windowed mode with a little bit of fucking about though.
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What would have Japan done historically?

Fully annex?

Turn China into a puppet?

Turn China into a puppet and annex some provinces? Which ones?
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What the fuck is this shit? Every couple of years Poland switches inbetween Falangist Poland and Polish People's Republic. Both of them have positive relations with the Axis. Should I just tag over to Germany and make them declare war if the commies win once again?
>>
>>144741618
Sounds like HoI3 now. I thought autists loved it?
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>>144742619
I started as italy.
Learned a lot, made many mistakes but was a good start.

I wouldn't start as germany.
Try italy or ahistoric Japan (concentrate on conquering asia instead of the US).
>>
>>144742752
>the ability to trade provinces
It makes it super easy to fix border gore, also you can do things like buying Alaska as USA instead of waiting for an event.
>>
>>144742890
It actually sounds nothing like HoI3. In HoI3 you had to use tactics. You couldn't just draw an arrow to Moscow and become eternally Groß
>>
>>144741718
99% of games in fullscreen will still minimize and turn useless if you click anywhere on your second monitor. You need borderless fullscreen, which DH can't handle.

>>144742996
On the other hand, you could click the AI button and let it do its thing.
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>>144742832
>>144742142
>downgrading my computer just so i can play a shitty game
>>
>>144742842
>What would have Japan done historically?

The rape of Don King.
>>
>>144742842
Puppet, annex big cities like Guangzhou and Shanghai I think. Probably also get Qingdao.
>>
>>144742842
>historically
Just annex everyone you memer.
>>
>>144742619
Italy are literally the tutorial country.
>>
>only fascist, communist, democrat and non aligned party

>tfw hoi3 had a shit ton of parties just like in real life
this is gay as fucking shit
>>
>>144743105
true, bothered me more than anything else.
>>
>>144742184
>Play Poland
>become communist
>Some PSCHEK dude becomes ruler
>name changes to Peoples Republic of Poland
What? Why would and independent Poland, in 1936,be "Peoples Republic of Poland"?
>>
is it hard to become mosley (fascist) britain?
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good job
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>>144743105
>hoi3 had a shit ton of parties just like in real life
And it was meaningless since there could be no other alliance other than the Big Three. At least in HoI4 you can create your own alliance, with blackjack and hookers.
>>
>>144743105
I agree, but none of the parties in HoI3 actually did anything. I could become a fascist dictatorship as the US and it'd still railroad me into a war with Japan and the axis. The different parties being in power never actually changed anything.
>>
>>144742842
Take Costal/High IC areas, puppet the rest.
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I miss them...
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So let's say you're put in charge of the HOI4 team to fix the mess. What do you tell them to fix in particular, /gsg/?
>>
Should i bother pirating HOI4 or is it just another pile of shit as i expected
>>
>>144743105
>shit ton on parties
And you could barely influence things.
>>
>>144743276
Why not remove all of South America to? After all, they do nothing.
>>
how in hell do i remove frontline?
>>
What flag do you prefer to see Japan have, the state flag or (currently) the IJA flag? And in general, do you prefer to see only the state flag?
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>>144742185
When's the best time to stage a coup? I've got communist parties in the Netherlands and Belgium nearly reaching 50% popularity. Hopefully they can get into Comintern with me and Uncle Joe so Germany won't DOW on them and won't be able to get into France.
>>
>>144728836
Or alterntively, it's for people like me who love HoI3 but have exhausted every possible playthrough and need something new.
>>
>>144743401
>delete order
then right click on shit
>>
>>144743321
Rework the Aerial warfare from scratch

Stop balancing the game around multiplayer

Rework the godawful AI controlled army system that you're more or less forced to use

Stop the AI from doing fucking naval invasions with 3 divisions in backwater areas
>>
>>144743487
I played twice going fascist in democratic/non-aligned, and eventually got an event about the fascists winning both the people and the leaders, I just picked that. Wait, I guess?
>>
>>144742957
Wow, there are so many cool things in Ricky that never made it into Vicky 2, and though I like that Vicky has things like decisions and crises it just seems so empty compared to Ricky because of the automation of a ton of the old features that WERE the game in Ricky.

I love both games, but I can see why people complain about Victoria 2 being a lot of waiting, it's because Paradox put a fence around a lot of Ricky's features when making the game.
>>
>>144741643
Can't you just stop shitposting for a mere moment?

Jesus Christ, talk about ADHD.
>>
is it even worth playing smaller countries? i kind of want to but feel you should probably just play the ones with their own national focus tree.
>>
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>Britain is so fucking far away
>Denmark is bent at a painful angle
Who drew this map
>>
>>144743275
>>144743276
It affected the selection of ministers, which in turn affected the possible bonuses.

>tfw no more sliders
>>
what factories should i build as a westernised persia?
>>
>>144743845
always liquors
>>
Played for 10 minutes and got the hang of it. It usually takes me a few hours at least when playing a new Paradox game. Is this a bad sign?
>>
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Should I coup Johan /gsg/? He seems to have moved to Norway now. I need some nations for my upcoming fascist Commonwealth of Nations faction and the Scandinavians seem to be closeby.
>>
>>144743845
rugs
>>
>>144743927
dumb memer
>>
>>144743759
Small countries are OP for now, so you might as they try time before pdx nerfed them.
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>>144743760
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>he didnt start as germany

whats the matter, eh kid? cat got your balls?
>>
>>144744102
>he is a neo nazi
reported to your isp
>>
>>144740704
you are either mentally ill or blind.
i had 1k casualties. they had 40k casualties.
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>>144743760
it really makes you think
>>
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JOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
>>
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/what-is-happen-about-organozation-chart-of-army-navy-airforce-aka-oob-is-this-a-arcade-kids-game.943134/

lel
>>
>tfw this fucking horrible Swedish metal starts playing

do they think this shit is funny?
>>
>>144744340
just say it doesn't work on your computer so it crashed and stayed open in the background
>>
>>144743759
You can conquer the world as Poland if you want. It's EU 4 tier.
>>
>>144744378
>Complexity does not equal depth

This is the audience that Paradox creates their games for.
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>>144744265
>>
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>playing as the allies
>I consolecommanded Italy to buy german tanks, fix their divisions, upgrade etc, even forcibly transferred divisions to north africa

>these assclowns are STILL just running away instead of standing and fighting

What the fuck
>>
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>usa ai corners automobile market
>and doesn't flood it making prices drop
why can't this happen every game
>>
>>144742362
Who should be the leader of Fascist France?
>>
>>144744340
How do you play a wallpaper?
>>
>>144744340
>Tanks unit packs
Have you bought the Field Marshal Pack, you autist?
>>
>>144725061
Pirate it and see for yourself
>>
>>144744479
waggle your willy to it
>>
>>144744507
no I preordered the cheapest version. It was still a waste of £40
>>
>>144742842
Take coastal cities, balkanise the rest.
>>
>>144744464
Say what you want about HoI4 aI
HoI3 AI is fucking garbage.
>>
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>>144743487
Declared war on Belgium haha. They're a puppet now ha ha ha ha.
>>
>>144743760
>The Netherlands looks like Owl pellet
>>
>>144741372
>fun

that's not the point
>>
>>144744102
>plying on easy mode
nah
>>
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>us relying on tanks from mexico
prep le bull
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>>144744378
This is gold, he peordered Field Marshal edition, despite DD and shit.
>>
>>144744585

It depends on the situation. If the AI only has one front to attack they do well but if they are divided on two fronts they collapse faster than France in WW2. Here I have invaded Morocco too and am taking turns advancing on both fronts. They just seem to be moving their units back and forth to respond to those offensives, but by the time they arrive I'm pushing on the other side.
This is more frustrating than losing to be h
>>
>>144744340
enjoy the game, goy
>>
>>144744905
JOHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN: the post
>>
>>144744905
SHUT IT DOWN
>>
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>>144744589
So now I believe general war has broken out

Now to wait for Hungary to mow down Germany ha ha ha ha
>>
>>144744905
Rustled
>>
desu hoi iv is way too easy it seems so far.
I've never played another hoi game, aside from an hour or two of dh, and even I can tell it's casualized as fug.
>>
>>144744340
>>144744572
You have no room to bitch, none at all. The Stellaris launch showed us EXACTLY what kind of games Paradox wants to make now, and yet retards like yourself keep putting your hand on the stove and cry when you get burned.
>>
What are the equipment names for add_equipment
>>
>>144743319
>>
How do I respectfully disagree with a post here on 4chan?
>>
>>144744340
lol get owned loser
>>
>>144745348
Tell people to kill themselves "kys" for short
>>
>>144745348
>>144715337
>>
>>144745348
You suck anon's dick while saying "your post is shit".
>>
How is the spanish civil war in Hoi4? it's railroaded to happen or can you avoid it? can you create a fascist republican Spain? and communist nationalist Spain?
>>
so how easy/hard is japan?
>>
>>144745479
It happens every game, which it should.

Never bothered to play any of the Spains though, but the outcome is pretty much 50/50
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>>144745519

too easy
>>
How do I achieve 75% air superiority? I want to drop some nukes.
>>
>>144745479
Nationalist spain is a nationalist republican spain
It doesn't work like in hoi3 lad
>>
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-33rd-development-diary-supply.891122/page-46#post-20244150
>How HOI4 is deeper and more complex than its predecessor
>>
>>144744905
resbectfully bisagree

t. johan
>>
>>144745479
>How is the spanish civil war in Hoi4?
It's ok.
>it's railroaded to happen or can you avoid it?
It's implemented via this new civil wars mechanics, so I guess if you and USSR start to shill for communism from day 0 it's possible to avoid it, but I'm not sure.
>can you create a fascist republican Spain? and communist nationalist Spain?
This is the only two options you get, as far as I've seen, no democratic or neutral Spain.
>>
>>144745792
paradox forums and reddit are inseperable entities. stop visiting them.
>>
>>144745929
where the fuck is the new thread
>>
>>144746278
johan?
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>america and russia fighting their war in MY china
HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE?! I am not in a faction, I do not grant access to anybody nor am I in a joint war, but still EVERY FUCKER moves their divisions through my country and even fights there. What the fucking hell is this shit.
>>
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find the missing vp
>>
When will the first round of bug fixes be released for HOI4?
>>
>>144746278
R&I autist must be asleep
>>
>>144746430
t. kraut
>>
>division still preparing
Is there no better indicator than this?
>>
>>144746430
>>144746506
>>144746506
new
>>
All of China has like 8 steel lmfao nice game paracucks
>>
New
>>144746595
>>144746595
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>>144746640
too late buckoo. also wrong pic. delete.
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>>144739160
And this is surprising how? It's pretty easy to crop photos, much harder to hand draw pictures.

I feel sorry for their artist, he has a huge job ahead of him. Then again, no I don't. He's gonna get paid a lot from the DLC gravy train.
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