/civ4xg/ - Stellaris, Civilization & 4X Strategy General

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Balance patch when?

I got my Warp Drive Engineering PhD from Trump University in 2189

>level 5 careful scientist is studying level 3 anomaly with 5% fail chance
>study finishes
>don't read the popup
>check situation log, nothing new
>continue playing for a few minutes
>look at my outliner
>science ship is missing
fuck off paradox stop stealing my ships
space monsters parked at warp-in points is bad enough, but this is bullshit

>>144717202
>what is rng

>>144716828
Never at this rate. HoI4 is out now. They forgot about us

>Random empire declares war against me
>Capture their planets
>Purge every pop
>I'm the bad guy
I hate it

>>144718281
What's that?

So if you want massive amounts of breeding you want to take Rapid Breeders + Agrarian traits and have fanatic pacifists, right?

Thats 40% less growth time and 20% more food, you cant get a better start can you?

>>144718528
Autism.

>>144718609
Xenophobe so you get +100% food on titanic life world.
Then migrate/resettle from there.

>>144718609
Collectivist have reduced food consumption.

>>144718528
mod idea draft on how you make the economy more interesting, by adding more resources.

>>144718775
But you have to find a titanic life world first right? Its a bit risky.

>>144718781
Yeah I was going to take it so I could purge as well.

Just a shame you get such poor government choices

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Set memes to 65%, TARS.

>>144718934
>Just a shame you get such poor government choices
ironic monarchy

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>>144718874
Will rare minerals be stored like normal ones?
Also can you make food global? Instead there could be buildings/structure that increase pop growth(like clone vats or urban centre).

I'm hyped for claim fabrication in Civ:VI

>>144719047
>no game comes even close to simulating that picture
Why god, why

>>144719014
>>144718934
Ironic monarchy so you can spam edicts(like subsidy farming).

>>144719047
>Will rare minerals be stored like normal ones?
That's the idea.
So certain weapons could require special types of minerals that you can stock up on.

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>last 4 planets of small empire
>go to war to cede them
>invade and occupy all of them
>they literally have no troops, no fleets, no stations
>empire is allied to another empire on the side of the galaxy
>warscore at 31
>not even high enough to demand a cede of even 1 planet

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>>144719147
>>144719014
Time for sex

>>144719236
Interesting.
Need help with testing or other shit?

>>144718609
Growth isnt thay important early game.
Colony ships dont even use up pops

>>144720178
>ideas guy in charge of delivering
kek

>>144720201
Its about RP rather than minmaxing

>>144720108
pacifist.. colectivist..?

can you still purge?

>>144720248
Where did the guy making the Ork portrait go, I want to WAAAGH already.

He almost had it finished.

>>144720362
Yup

>>144720442
WE WILL KILL THEM

WITH LOVE

>2 faggy ass empires near my starting location
>immediately start warring
>economy is in shreds but manage to beat them within the first decade
>cede, purge and recolonize their Gaia worlds
>one is arid preference, I'm desert, so I can colonize their capital with all the cool buildings
>by the time I make some real alien contacts these two races are wiped from the galaxy
>bloated federationfags have no idea
>no survivors
>no witnesses

They probably see me as no threat because I only have like 4 shitty corvettes left after all this. Also strong anti-purge faction. Was this a mistake?

>>144720678
YOU'RE NOT MATING HARD ENOUGH

DEATH SENTENCE

>>144720805

SNU SNU

patch when

>>144717506
Lets hope not this game is far more iteresting than a fuckin ww2 game.

>>144723189
At the end of this month if the swede didn't lie to us.

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https://youtu.be/Lo0ZCCJ8g7o

I made an 8-bit cover of Baba Yetu.

>>144723252
is this one of the scenarios?

>>144723871
Groovy, i like it, kinda reminds me of Ducktales.

>>144723252
>civ 6 will never be good

I feel like I need to wait another 10-20 years before firaxis ever gets good at game design again

like, they're almost there with some of the concepts they've been talking about but they lack finesse

>>144724398
Yes, G&K one on top of that.

Reminder that Black Holes do infact destroy all information.

how does one deal with the late game stuttering in Stellaris?

>inb4 get a better toaster

>>144725350
kys

>>144725547
only with black holes will i truly die

>>144725517
Wait till patches I guess or maybe it helps conquering everyone so that there are less ships and fleets moving aroud the place or you could just play a smaller map that could maybe help.

>>144725350
What do you mean with this ?

>>144724461
Civ 6 is sounding great, anon. There will be claim fabrication, trade routes that build roads, no silly workers just standing around for 1000 years, lots of unique tile stuff that gets benefits from certain adjacent tiles, plus stuff I'm probably forgetting.

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nth for Fanatic Collectivist stronk. Who doesn't like free minerals and faster growth?

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>>144725547
l-lewd

>>144725350
d-delete this

>>144726256
if trade were actual trade like in rising tide, and you didn't build any "internal" structures in cities anymore, and the AI made capable at 1upt combat, it could be really good

but for every improvement it seems they're taking a step back, civics research tree wtf?

>>144726482
OH! And no global happiness and religion is a thing right off the bat with no waiting for DLC.

Plus the visuals, though cartoony when zoomed in, are supposed to look very good when zoomed out at the usual distance.

I'm optimistic.

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You were supposed to be my ravenous hordes! Why have you done this?

>>144726824

Whelp... Time to purge.

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>>144726730
I don't mind the graphics, literally the most pointless thing to get asshurt about

it's just they're taking steps to de-spreadsheet and de-abstract the game, but they'll only go halfway, and add more abstract bullshit like the civics tree, and it'll take at least another decade before they fully realize the true paradigm

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>Incoming transmission!
I DON'T WANT TO JOIN YOUR FEDERATION ONLY TO BE STRIPPED OF MY PLANETS IN A DUMB WAR, LEAVE ME ALONE.

>>144726885
>de-abstract
>de-spreadsheet
Literally complete opposites, anon.

>>144726885
>true paradigm
FUCKING LEAVE

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>>144726958
iktf

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>>144727187
I'm not him but I knew using that phrase would trigger someone

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First time I actually came across them in all my games so far - so that explains who that is spreading communications with other nations. I like the design and idea of the Space Ark that they have, and kind of wish I could build all my ships looking like that like I kind of did with Polaris Sector's ship designer (the spinning ring around the center of the ship).

I don't know why they're bombarding a sun, however. Maybe that's how they 'refuel' to continue their endless wander?

>>144726824
This is one of the main problems with playing a Militaristic species - if you colonise a Tomb World with a Militaristic species, they'll look at the war-torn world and go 'actually, war really is a bad idea after all' and turn into Fanatic Pacifists. No other edict I know of suffers from colonising a Tomb World.

>>144727484
Thing is, the cockroaches were the original inhabitants of the tomb world (I sent my droids). They've been living there since forever and when I come they suddenly decide "you know what guys, this place is real shitty" and turn pacifist. Pre-sentient xenos are weird.

>>144726730
>no global happiness
There was nothing wrong with that. The problem is a buttfuck retarded AI, which they "compensated" by giving ridiculous bonuses, so it could spam shitty cities in every possible tile without penalties, but taking them would dip the player into unhappiness.
>are supposed to look very good when zoomed out at the usual distance.
I wouldn't call http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/289070/ss_cf53258cb8c4d283e52cf8dce3edf8656f83adc6.jpg very good. It will be even more clusterfucked in later eras, for sure.
Funny they've changed store screenshots from over-saturated zoom-ins to panned view with less post-processing shit. Guess rigorous reaction on forums didn't go unnoticed.
>>144726885
>I don't mind the graphics, literally the most pointless thing to get asshurt about
That's why civ games with every iteration become increasingly more detailed, because graphics doesn't matter, amirite?

>>144727749
civ 6 doesn't look bad, have you been keeping up? minimalism is the in thing right now

>>144727749
I disagree with everything you just said.

Global happiness made no sense and took away one more aspect of city management. Your complaints about the AI are ignorant. They could have easily improved the AI. There are mods for it out right now. They went with bonuses because no one wants to wait fucking 10 minutes just for all the AIs to complete their turn. Instead they give bonuses to approximate what a smarter AI would do, and I appreciate that.

>>144727826
Did you even read what I wrote? It doesn't look good either (compared to EL), but the point is later eras get increasingly more clusterfucked, no "minimalism" will solve it.

>>144727947
>I disagree with everything you just said.
Of course you do, because you are a retarded shill, who didn't even play civ5 in the first place.
>Global happiness made no sense and took away one more aspect of city management.
What aspect exactly? Can't ICS right off the bat? Or we don't have examples of IRL empires falling down due to over-expanding?
>Your complaints about the AI are ignorant.
How to spot a shill 101: he tries to take a high ground.
>They could have easily improved the AI.
That's why they didn't improve it even a little in BE, right?
>They went with bonuses because no one wants to wait fucking 10 minutes just for all the AIs to complete their turn.
The biggest offender in my CBP (which has a built-in smarter AI) games was recalculation of city-connections of my cities (which was taking longer than all AI player turns combined). Vanilla game game had similar slowdowns, but shorter. So shove "but muh AI turns" up your ass, because it "complexity" doesn't affect turn length much, unless you have ADHD.
>Instead they give bonuses to approximate what a smarter AI would do, and I appreciate that.
Shitting cities without regards to global unhappiness = smarter play? Last time I checked all smart players were going Tradition + 4 cities set-up for almost any game.

Fastest way to win a war if i suck at manouvering troops? even if i split fleets they always seem to outmanouver me and take planets behind my back while my main force can't catch up with them.

>>144728808
What are you, twelve?

>>144729098
just go straight for their homeworld. Their fleets usually come back and then you can fight it out. After go capture their planets
>chasing fleets around
>ever
also if you have a massive navy, split fleets so you can bombard multiple planets at once. bombarding/blockading gives a lot of warscore.

>>144727749
That fog of war look nice

civfags fuck off

>>144729098
Actually only playing with hyperlanes can also fix this.
Wormholes do really fuck wars up in late game.

>>144727116
they're moving things out of numbers, icons and menus and onto the game board, how is that not both?

>federation A declares war on federation B
>I'm at war with federation B
>I'm independent
>apparently I'm now at war with federation A
BRAVO

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>>144730175

>>144730175
That's really shitty I got that happen to me also several times.

>>144718281

Getting enough Hydrogen to run the Fusion power plants should not be a problem.
>literally the most common element in the universe

>>144730009
Aren't wormholes the best to get to ponts faster in the late game though?

>>144730453
I don't know I never used wormholes but the AI can really fuck shit up if you don't counter them with your own wormholes.

>>144730254
>>144730281
lol, damn this game is buggy

>>144730695
I just hope it wasn't designed like that on purpose.

>>144727826
There's a difference between minimalism and mobile tier graphics. They could have pushed civ 5's aesthetic even further by making the game cel shaded art deco following the style of the portraits. Instead they just made it look like a step backwards.

>>144730839
so weird being on a defending war with someone im also at war with

>>144731076
I once got into a war with like 15 nations because of this.

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>>144731008
>cel shaded

>>144731223
lol yup I'm at war with 12 atm

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GIB RIGHTS GIB RIGHTS GIB RIGHTS GIB GIB GIB GIB GIB GIB

Can you upgrade defense stations similar to how you can press the button and send your ships to get upgraded? Can you send like a builder ship to do it or do you need to demolish the station and build a new one?

>>144731658
>BUY DLC BUY DLC BUY DLC BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY

>>144731658
:^)

What happens if a synth gains the spiritualist ethic?
Will it hate itself?

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>>144731541
Thanks for reminding me I need to make a squid empire

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>>144731940
You tell me, fampai.

Welp, kinda narrowed down the FE bug to a few mods. It's either the extra events mod, star trek anomalies, the belt mod, or the trader mod.

Gonna figure out what's wrong, one mod at a time.

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This is the first time that I am unhappy with Paradox.

They have been incompetent at times, but...

>>144732730
so what's the point of this

>>144730175

Guilt by association.
>the enemy of my enemy is my enemy

>>144732972

I am guessing that Hearts of Iron 4 is not selling nearly as well as Stellaris did, and they are trying to hide it.

>>144733132
war was really never designed to be between more than 2 parties I don't think

>>144733240
WW2 is quite old meme anyway. No one fucking cares about WW2 games, unless it's something hyperbolic like the new Wolfenstein.

>>144730175
Therea usually something guaranteeing something without you knowing.
In one of my games i was flanked by 3 alliances. One empire in one alliance somehow guarantees one from another so any war against one alliance would brig the other in

>>144733418
Well they couldnt even get hoi3 to work properly so theres that

>>144720108

I like this because I didnt instantly jump to a real life equivalent.

So a scientist in my materials empire got the psionics expertise trait.

I heard materialists have a hard time rolling psi tech, will it now be a more common roll or is the trait essentially useless?

>>144735493
It makes psi research more likely

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>'balanced' 1000-star ring galaxy
>'upgraded' planets mod for more planets per system
>can't survey or construct fast enough, even with 4 each of survey and construction ships
I think this may have been a mistake.

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yo!

someone here said i can add traits yo synths by console commands. but when i enter "add_trait_species synthetics trait_conformists" console says trait added but i cant see any change in my synths.

any ideas?

>>144735493
Materialist cannot roll psi tech without a scientist with psi trait. Probability is literally zero without one.

Now you may roll it.

>can't define grammar rules and vocabulary of your own language
>can't define custom leader titles
>can't have procedurally generated leader names based on their POP of origin's planet of residence and ethos
>can't even have an apostrophe instead of a space as a delimiter between first and last names
Kickstarter to clone Toady when?

>>144733418
I hope hoi 4 flops hard so that they drop it and concentrate on stellaris.

Is it better to have multiple smaller sectors, or one large one?

At the moment iv dropped about half my empire into a single sector

>>144736757
2 sectors if you have a governor with +science trait and fully developed science worlds
otherwise no point

>>144733240
I'm assuming "they went public" means they became a publicly traded company. Most companies like to be the only ones to release those numbers.

>>144737020
Hm thats a good idea

Bit late now for me, iv stuck with my five main worlds and just mass expanded to any world I could and dropped them all into one sector and let the AI sort it out. Should have planned it better and made a few planets science based then sectored it.

Oh well, thanks anon for the idea

http://www.pocketgamer.biz/asia/news/63296/paradox-interactive-goes-public/
>Tencent acquires 5% as Paradox Interactive goes public
>Tencent acquires 5%
>Tencent
ITS

ALL

FUCKING

OVER

>>144737463
tencent enterprises is now the rival of 4cent_garbage.com

>>144737463
>Fredrik Wester and Spiltan will continue to be long-term shareholders in Paradox, owning 33.3% and 30.5% respectively.
one third is not a controlling share
this will end in tears

with the AI basically completely fucked are there any human only/majority human games going on I could join?

>>144737856
Tencent will take over Paradox, unless Paradox starts doing poorly

And considering Stellaris was their best selling game I doubt thats going to happen

>>144732636
Money is on the belt mod, we both have that

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>playing Pie's Ancient Europe for Civ4 as Rome
>Celts, Gauls and Dacians declare war while they have upper hand militarily
>hold them out of Italy until I research chain armor and shit out velites and principes
>so fucking mad at this point at the forever war I go on a mighty purge
>raze everything, hordes of slaves and treasure enriching the empire

Fuck woad raiders, delenda est.

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>>144737463
Red dot me on tencent, who are they and why should I care?

>>144738752
They are like EA, if EA was Chinese and even more evil.

They own LoL and a lot of other big games

>>144737942
This is something I miss, I liked the option to change my empire half way through and load up my enemies or a minor I was about to eat up.

Stellaris seems less drop in friendly

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Well

Thats new

Anyway to peacefully annex fallen empires? I am trying to do a pacifist run but I really want those fucking ringworlds.

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>Stellaris release was brilliant and a high point for Paradox
>HOI4's release has been a total disaster and shipped out a broken, unfinished, and just plain bad game

I think we got the last laugh

>>144740730
>HOI4's release has been a total disaster and shipped out a broken, unfinished, and just plain bad game
Surprising no-one.

>>144740730
>hoi 4 fails hard
>paradox concentrates on stellaris
>we keep getting new patches and dlc in the coming months

I really hope this happens.
I really like the premise of this game especially the part that you can make your own custom species and state.
It has good potential if ony paradox would keep working on it.

>>144738752
>>144737463
>>144737513
>>144737856
>Many of Tencent's software and services are remarkably similar to those of competitors. The founder and chairman, Huateng "Pony Ma" Ma, famously said, "[To] copy is not evil." A former CEO and President of SINA.com, Wang Zhidong, said, "Pony Ma is a notorious king of copying." Jack Ma of Alibaba Group stated, "the problem in Tencent is no innovation; all things are copies."
so the new owners of Stellaris are ok with pirating the game and all the dlc

>>144741024
>Vicky 3 is delayed to 2020s, then cancelled in favour of Stellaris 2
Please, yes.

>>144741454
I wouldn't mind a new vicky but they should atleast take a couple years for it where they also keep updating stellaris.

>>144741569
I just want to witness /gsg/ turning into a pillar of salt.

>>144741691
Thats already happening, there are a lot of people bitching that Stellaris is more GSG than HoI4

>>144741691
/gsg/ has been a salt mine for years now

does the 'in limbo' event have any outcome besides 'a bunch of engineering points' and 'a slightly smaller bunch of engineering points'?

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I think I fukked up with colonies and outposts. Should I start again and colonize planets at edge of my empire?

>>144741762
Kek why is there so much hate between the two generals ?
I never went to gsg so I don't know how those guys are but since I came here I heard that gsg hated this general.

What's superior, going for slavery or the 90% happiness?

I'm concerned that the massive earlygame synergy of despotic empire + slaves will just smash anything else

>>144742026
Thats a really shitty start anyway, all that random empty space
>meanwhile the other faggot has a shitton of stars clustered together

So is there a reason to use anything but tachyon lances?

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>>144741569
They should turn Vicky into an addon for Stellaris.

>>144742159
Its just /gsg/ hating Stellaris because it isnt history, and so doesn't fit into their arbitrary definition of "GSG"

Basically /gsg/ is filled with autistic people and it was better for everyone that Stellaris came here, at least we can have a discussion about it.

>>144742260
Shields, better to use torpedoes

The final upgraded fighters/bombers are good too.

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HOMEWORLD REMASTERED FIX FORMATIONS PATCH IS OUT

>>144742590
Took them long enough.

>>144742741
what? you want your game to work as advertised at release? FUCK YOU wait a year and three months.

>>144736251

fukken answer gaddamit

>>144742590
DOWNLOADING

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>>144742590
>fix

more like butchered

>>144742590
>5.2GB
Godam

>>144742590
>5.2GB
Whoa.
Any additional content?

>>144742405
Ugh they seem like boring cunts.

>>144743523
>60% of the posts is people forming le ebin groBgermanium (or Byzantium) for the 1488th time and the remaining 40% is damfgruppe shitposting about HPM
You don't say.

>>144743468
>>144743479

I'll bet you money they just can't into differential patching which is deeply ironic considering the original 1.1 patch was a delta patch

>>144743942
Which just means the core team moved on after release and the patch was cobbled together by interns or whoever was at hand.
Gotta love the gamedev industry.

>>144744324
if you read articles and interviews about it you get the impression that this is exactly what happened

should I wait 6 months for the hotfixes?

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>>144743410
sphere formation holding on a cap ship while moving and firing, they got something right at least.

>>144742590
It also released on GOG

>>144744656
wat is going on in the top left

>>144743853
So its filled with /pol/ types ?

>>144744656
I forgot how cancerous the UI design was.

>>144740576
You cant peacefully annex anything

>>144744854
It's been full of /pol/ types since the London olympics opening ceremony triggered them.

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>>144744748
custom badges.

>>144745059
federations are supposed to be the peaceful option due to allied victory right? but how does it work if the total stars colonized by the federation isn't counted???

>>144745059
you can peacefully vassalize and then Integrate

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>>144745217

>>144741762
>stellaris is more gsg than hoi4
Fuck hoi4 must be a total stinking piece of shit

>>144742195
90% happiness is superior but slaves are easier to use

>>144745731
Almost never
Vassalising shit you havent liberated only happens when the stars align. So almost never

>>144746124
what do I need to mind if I go for a happiness build?
also I guess I can forget about sectors making proper use of both slavery and happiness builds?

>>144742195
hands down happiness is better but the question is how you achieve this happiness?

Going spiritualist is hampering your future attempts at robotics
Going that happy gov requires you going non collectivist (thus losing the helpful purge) pacifist (losing an ethos point on an otherwise shit ethos)

>double core planets and core planet tech/gov bonuses
>triple ethics divergence penalty for distance from homeworld
Would it work to stop mega blobbing?

>>144746241
strong military force+ good diplomacy makes it possible unless they're Xenophobes

>>144746482
>robotics
>good

>>144746551
Still no.
It would make it even easier.
You fucktard.

>>144746551
literally the opposite

>>144746673
end game robots are awesome if you avoid the crisis

>>144746650
>good"diplomacy"
Literally rng
Everuthing has to be just right for you to vassal them, their size in relation to yours, their distance, your fleet power, their tech level, their ethics and their threat level

>>144746551
the only reason blobbing is effective is because every enemy blobs

if the AI knew how to perform coordinated attacks then a single blob would be virtually useless due to retreats

wtf is wrong with steam?
my Homeworld patch download speed broke down and now steam is constantly rescheduling the download a minute into the future

>>144742405
Stellaris is a 4X
like, holy shit, get real, there is strictly nothing that makes Stellaris another genre than SoaSE or GalCiv or Star Ruler what have you

>>144746917
what isn't wrong with steam?

>>144746717
>>144746740
Explain

>>144747107
Already did in an earlier thread.

Actually filtered Elaborate so I wouldn't see your dumb posts again.

>>144747036
It's not uplay or origin

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>>144747328
>it's not [exact copy of steam]

Why is the research hit by increased pops so heavy?

>>144746883
>their size in relation to yours
Just blob
>their distance
Start with you neighbours and work one.
>your fleet power
well as I said ,you need a big gun to convince them they need protection
>their tech level
not a problem for my empire
>their ethics
As long as they're not xenophones its doable with time
>their threat level
Never was a problem for me.

I am not saying its easy but its not impossible to diploannex

>>144747313
Oh its you top kek
>actually believing core planet limit has any impact on being abke to blob

>>144740730
Erm... Were you here at launch? It was and still is a bit of a curates egg

Sure I like the game but it has a fair few glaring flaws

>>144747501
I never said it was impossible either, you just cant engineer it peacefully, either they can be a vassal or not

What ethos build synths are?

>>144747727
but you can engineer it by blobing out, vassalizing your way up from small fish and snowballing slowly

>>144748198
>you can engineer vassaling by vassaling
Wut

>>144747501
Not him but, funny that by the time I had a full fledge fleet they all thought me as a tyrant.

>>144748396
I invaded a nearby species and enslaved them for the first time.

I got an erection.

What's your favourite Stellaris sountrack?

Mine's either Luminescence or Infinite Being

>>144747406
uPlay never fucking works and is merely DRM
Origin is fine from my limited experience, but the store could definitely use some reworking

>>144749148
I have had less problems with uplay than steam, which is also just drm

it's all the same shit

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>tfw your planet is a fucking pile of shit but the drugs make it all go away

>>144749148
Uplay also forces its DRM on single-player games and is prone to crashing.

>>144748983
To the ends if the galaxy is the best imo.
To me it sounds exactly how sci fi music should sound.

Played Stellaris for ten hours or so on launch. Haven't touched it since. What has been fixed? What hasn't been fixed?

>>144749216
Humble (muh DRM free games) > GMG > Steam = unlicensed key sites > Origin > Best Buy > Uplay = Gamestop©. Gamestop©, Power to the Players.©

Welp, good news for anyone who have the Fallen Empire bug, after some flicking of mods on and off, the culprit is most likely The Belt mod.
Unless I have to regenerate the entire galaxy each time I test the mod, it's probably the culprit.

For those wondering, the FE bug is the one where a FE won't contact you even if your science ship's already scanned their homeworld. They won't make a first contact special project either.

>>144749626
>steam better than origin
$1 has been added to your steam wallet

>>144749626
anything drm free > steamclones > gamestop > steam

reason being steam is more price gouging than gamestop

rule #1 of buying from steam: don't.

it's ALWAYS cheaper somewhere else

>>144749789
>game with an actual variety of choices is better than EA only
If Origin had more games it'd be better

>>144749898
there's non-EA games on origin, witcher 3 for example

>>144749303
The UI is still shit but they made a little better

>>144749898
with that argument how can you rate humble bundle and GMG better than steam then?.
the only platform with more games than steam is a torrent tracker.

>>144749303
>steam singleplayer games don't have DRM

>>144750071
the great thing about uplay is that the cheevos actually matter because you can unlock free shit with them and they're front and center, where in steam and origin it's some totally useless bs hidden away where nobody will ever see it

they kinda recreated that XBL feeling of importance to cheevos so you actually want to bother trying to get them

>>144750114
>humble bundle
Humble has a store, where have you been

>>144750319
>not living under a rock
fucking redditors ree

>>144750319
>buying games from the overpriced store
which would rate GMG and keysites above humble bundle which have the same if not bigger libs while being cheaper.

>try to edit save to drop my increased border range back to 20
>can't without the save breaking
REEEEEEE

>>144749461
yes

>>144749461
basically nothing, the AI has been made ever so slightly better

fighters are no longer useless, and the 100% accuracy bug is fixed

>>144749461
Crisis events got fixed didn't they?
They nerfed corvettes into the ground

>>144751084
Don't know about the machine uprising but the scourge and unbidden expand now but after some time the AI manages to check their advance.

>>144726824
Turks aren't pacifists.

>>144751568
We are pretty peaceful now though.

>>144740730
>HOI4's release has been a total disaster and shipped out a broken, unfinished, and just plain bad game

So it's the same as every Paradox launch.

>>144750271
Steam game won't be terminated if the client loses connection.
>the great thing about uplay is that the cheevos actually matter because you can unlock free shit with them and they're front and center, where in steam and origin it's some totally useless bs hidden away where nobody will ever see it
>mfw ubidrones can't spend a second without grinding some form of currency.
Besides, Uplay cheevos pop-up in the middle of a screen without a way to disable them. Absolutely fucking cancer.

>>144751858
depends completely on the game

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>>144751690

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> Beginning of the game
> Get cultists
> Get pirates
> Have to spend most of my shit on building a big enough fleet to take them all on
> Meanwhile everyone else has been free to spend their shit on taking anything just outside my borders

>>144751997
What depends? Steam stopping the game or annoying cheevos?

>>144752021
Kurds are a bigger thread to turkey than ISIS ever will be.

>>144752173
Threat* I mean.

>>144752173
that's a big thread

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>>144752173
>>144752272
Which means Turkey is as big a threat to the civilized world as ISIS.

Ultimately, the only logical solution is complete removal of the kebap.

>>144741365
>Tencent owns 5%
> New owners of Paradox

>>144752021
The Turks are a shit people that should be gassed desu
Remove kebab

>>144752468
That's retarded tbqh with you senpai.

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>>144752173
Turks are a bigger threat to everyone than ISIS will ever be, because ISIS is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Turkroach Enterprises, LLC.

>>144741365
Anyone else hate the chinese btw?

>>144752650
Kek keep being delusional.

>>144752650
Armenians aren't real
Assyrians died thousand year ago
Greeks in response to 4 million turk murdered by Greece

Are Kurds white?

>>144752768
>Armenians aren't real

>>144752842
They are caucasian if you mean that.

>>144752842
No, but they try.

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>>144752746
Kek keep funding ISIS - and we'll keep dropping bombs on them.

>>144752842
They're more European than Turks, that's all that really matters

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>>144752842
>are X people white

refer to this helpful chart

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>>144752842

>there are people in this thread right now who believe in genocides in times when everyone was at war with everyone else
I guess cro-magnons are guilty of neanderthal genocide too, amirite?

>>144752942
>implying half the world doesn't fund them already

Don't be so naive faggot terrorist groups get funded by governments all over the world just to change regions on the other side of the world and they surely don't care about casualities on their own civilian populations.

>>144752964
They are the most backwards and population in turkey so again keep being delusional.

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>>144753265
if by genocide you mean rape, sure

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>>144752842

>>144753375
>They are the most backwards and population in turkey
Backwards of backwards is forward, so that means they're better than your backward country

>>144753265
yeah

>>144753508
If it makes you sleep better at night.

>want to use wormhole
>its such a bitch to use and debilitating early and late game
Pls nerf hyperlanes so i dont feel as bad using wormhole

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>>144753487
> Zeta Reticulians
> Not White

>>144753872
You can do guerilla attacks against your enemies and its quick as fuck.

>still no jewish/israeli mod

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>>144753874
if they were white why would they try to produce hybrids that look white?

>>144754115
But its slow as fuck getting around short distances and defending yourself. If some fuck comes along as a hyperlaner he can just hop through your whole system blowing stations up

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>>144754170
They're not "trying" shit. A hybrid's going to look white because Zeta Reticulians ARE white. Fucking retarded Earthers...

>>144754153
>implying there isn't in vanilla

There's a star of david emblem and I'm pretty sure there's a large snouted rodent portrait

>>144752768
>Armenians aren't real
t. Turk

>>144754330
Well I wouldn't now I always use hyperlanes but wormhole fuckers keep attacking my stations behind my back and afterwards they dissapear to the other side of the galaxy.

>>144754330
it's only slow if you're a follower rather than a leader

the true advantage of wormhole is that going max distance takes exactly the same amount of time as going to the next system over

>>144754535
Fuck I meant *know

>plan to go full total war conquer everything on site
>your two neighbours are the nicest empires you've ever met
why dont they just want to join my empire and keep everything intact?
why struggle?

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Fuck

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>>144753041
>>144753487

>>144754535
I guess ill just have to be careful who i attack

Its kinda annoying you cant send in spies or something to reveal infomation about a faction, like warp travel method, fleet locations, ship systems, research technology ect

>>144754539
Maybe ill just slap down a bunch of defence platforms around the stations so i can actually catch ships attacking

>>144754680
They are nice because you are strong, not because they are real friends

Obliterate them anon. Its the right thing to do.

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>>144753375
>implying half the world doesn't fund them already

Turks aren't half the world. You just think you are because you have delusions of grandeur.

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>>144736585
They'll need a new engine first.

>if you don't have sensor coverage you see jack shit
>if you do have sensor coverage you see everything right down to how happy the other guy's pops are
Just.
Intelligence level implemented when?
Stealth rating for smaller ships when?
Differentiation between sensors and long range scanners when?

I want to take molemen into space, and let them colonize more worlds

>>144755113
Yes yes and we also eat babies just fuck off now.

>>144756062
from the horses mouth everybody

Guys how do I install mods cans someone give a quick guide ?
I read that I need to unpack the mod folder into the workshop folder in stellaris' documents and that I need to put the .mod file into a mod folder which should also be in the documents of stellaris but there isn't a mod folder, should I just make one ?

>>144756240
click subscribe

Can I take out the resources stored in my sectors to use for the "whole empire" ? I mean i'm in the negative with the energy credits since the beggining of a huge war and I can trade my surplus minerals for so long anyway.

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>>144756062
You don't eat babies. You just rape them.

>>144756684
tax it more is the only way I know of

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Remember kids.
If someone offers you free candy, you will most likely get raped for it.
I want off this wild ride.

>>144757334
wat

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>>144757334

So, like what's the deal with the Civ games? I know that Beyond Earth is a crap reskin of 5, but otherwise I don't know much, is it best to just play 4 and 5 while skipping all the others?

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>>144757334
did someone call for a wilde rhyde

>>144757695
1 is so full of exploitable holes and flawed mechanics that it's pointless to play today, even ignoring the atrocious graphics.

This is slightly less extreme, but still a problem in 2 and 3.

4 is OK, but I persoanlly prefer 5 with all the DLC and community patch.

>>144757695
>Call To Power
Wacky fun and weird mechanics.
Goes from prehistory to future, so you can colonize the ocean and space.
You can even play on a donut shaped world(north connect with south as well).

Weird misses like, you can't terraform tiles you have placed cities on.
So remove the forest before settling on that tile for maximum yields.

>Civ2
Better version of Civ1.
Smooth UI, good unit management.
No stacks, no carpets.
Placing a city to work 1 single tile is technically worth it.


>Freeciv
Like civ1 or Civ2, but with some differences like: Split settlers into settlers+workers, start with more units, no tech rng, can't terraform resources. Can play on extremely large map sizes with a lot of civs.


Then there's Civ4, Civ5 and Alpha Centauri that are worth to play.

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So it probably isn't very realistic, but the idea of a habitable moon around a planet really appeals to me.
It'd probably be awesome to live there, seeing another inhabited world move around you.

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>>144757695
rising tide actually does some things better than 5, namely trade being actual trade, diplomacy being much less obtuse, and a nice warscore system like stellaris, except it actually works right and has no upper limit so you can keep fighting for as long as you want to increase your peace demands

>>144758314
Should be very weird for the development of the worlds.
Like if we could see oceans on the moon.

Or even more dramatic if there was a civilization there and people started seeing bright lights.

>>144758314
why wouldn't it be realistic? all it needs is an atmosphere, some water, and a magnetic field

there isn't a significant difference between the moon, the inner rocky planets, and the moons of jupiter and saturn, we just got lucky with atmos composition and habitable zoning

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>>144758528
it wouldn't be weird at all, the idea of a martian civilization was completely realistic to most people, even scientists, around 1900

>>144758314
A habitable moon of a habitable planet wouldn't really be feasible, unless the planet is around 2-3 times the mass of the Earth, which'd mean it'd probably be an ocean planet
A habitable binary system or a habitable moon of a gas giant, though, those are perfectly feasible

>>144758683
Well the moon is a little closer than mars.

If oceans on the moon was common knowledge since prehistory, and then scientists in the renaissance proved that there were civilizations there I think it would change peoples priorities.

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Where should I drop colony/outpost?

>>144759040
what the fuck is wrong with your font?

>>144759040
Insufficient data for a meaningful answer

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>>144759204
Polish font of special snowflakes most likely.
I still remember the same thing back from Diablo 2. [pic related]

>>144759040
>>144759550

pretty sure it's the tf2 font now that I look at it

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>>144759204
probably swaped because of language pack

>>144759303
better screenshot of that northern cluster
At Kastaba I got one planet with 17 areas, At Banagha with 22 areas.
There's also small moon I can colonize (outside my area) at Sigma Draconis with only 8 areas.

I was thinking about outpost at south, maybe Amastes or Landiz.

>>144759550
>>144759856
pretty sure it's shit and gay

What's the deal with sectors and beltharan stone?
I put one of my planets inside a sector and now it's complaining that it doesn't have access, despite me still having them.
Do I really have to extend my sector to cover every source of it?

>homeworld patch download died at 4.3 GB
>it's staying dead
Thanks Obama.

>>144760313
stayed keked america

>>144760269
before it would just go wherever it was needed I think now it has to be part of the same sector

>>144757121
Yeah, but the fact that they have thousands of both minerals and energy credits stored and I can't seem to get anything out of them is just bs, especially when it's under my rule

>>144752718
>Anyone else hate the Chinese btw?
Yo.

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Is there a mod that allows you to toggle default species so they're guaranteed to appear in your game?

I wanna culturally enrich these faggots.

>>144760269
sectors will oinly use strategic resources in their sector.
core planets will use strategic resources from the entire empire.

>>144761303
looks like they already are

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>>144761486
Depends on your definition of cultural enrichment.

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>>144761645
>blowing up a playground of white kids
I'm gonna enjoy purging you fucker

>>144762075
>That image
WEW

>2402
>prethoryn arrive
>the AI just sends 60k worth of ships and ends the scourge in 1 year
well that was underwhelming

>>144762075
Not a response to that sadly as far as I can find, twitter is incredibly shitty for browsing.
Stewarts tweet is from 2013.

>>144762075
>in jest
:^)

He's even more insufferable than his character.

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LET
US
IN

>xenophiles get happiness bonuses from robots
well that is fucking bullshit

So is there any reason to go anything but Fanatic Materialist?
That shit seems way too fucking strong compared to anything else.

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>exactly one place with spice in the whole galaxy
>one guy holds all seven spawns of teldar
>all the other strat resources follow the same clustered pattern
It's almost like diplomacy was supposed to be useful for something.

Daily reminder that Joe McCarthy was right and nearly everyone he accused of being a commie was, in fact, a commie.

>>144765778
who?

>>144758683
>it wouldn't be weird at all, the idea of a martian civilization was completely realistic to most people, even scientists, around 1900
http://airminded.org/2009/03/16/the-struggle-for-empire/

>>144765778
And half the committee he was on

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Asimov patch

>>144767393
Wow its fucking nothing

>>144767393
New mammal ship models when?

>>144767393
So what's the point of alliances then?

>>144768417
easier, don't have to promise spaceclay, defense

>>144768659
You still.need to give something for alliances in offensive wars or they vote no.
Basically with the current rules for warscore, no changes to war diplomacy matters

>no defensive pact targeted at a spceific empire
>no enforce peace wargoal
why

>>144767393
who gives a shit
I'm not goin g to war with some empire if I can't take them out.
>dude but you can invite people to your wars
fuck you, fix your already broken shit

Is there any mod out there that makes areas near the galactic core look less dogshit?

why isn't there a war goal to change their flag to a dildo?