/wtc/ - Witcher and Cyberpunk General - (/krw/, /cpg/)

this game is gay

Shit OP

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>Geralt speaks of Siegfried of Denesle as a decent guy
Does this imply that Order path is canon?

>manticore chestpiece requires regular dimeritium plate instead of the new super expensive version
bug?

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>>144617206
Beat Blood and Wine last night right before Game of Thrones. Got the good ending. 9/10 game. I feel empty inside now.

What continues to shock me is that women in this game look like women and get my dick hard whereas Bioware leaves me limp and wilted.

There was only one whore house in Beauclair right?

Also
> 2016
> underwear sex
Fucking please. We only had a 1 second tease of Syanna's exposed bared puss.

>>144617596
Neutral path and don't kill Siegfriend

>>144616745
O'Dimm simply wished to introduce himself. He is indeed a fellow of substantial economic stature and inclinations. He has been in the vicinity for an extended duration and at times illegally acquired souls of men that was squandered.

You see, he was present when a messiah figure of sort hesitated due to uncertainty and agony. Guaranteed the ruling elder of the time cleansed his hands and fixed his destiny.

He was quite thrilled to encounter Geralt and prayed that he would be able to discern his given title. However bewilderment is the classification of his festivities.

>>144617604
I think Manticore is just supposed to be the cheapest grandmaster set, for reasons.

>>144617648
Siegfriend stays a piece of shit then. The only way to keep him pure is to side with the Order.

just fought the 'beast' for the first time
hardest fight in the game so far, imo even harder than olgierd

but for bad reasons, you basically have a split second window to attack him after a dodge, otherwise he just blocks all your attacks perfectly FOREVER

>>144617772
He's one of the strongest creatures in the Witcher universe, surpassed only by a golden dragon and few other beings, so it makes sense

>>144617742
It's just the hot new armor. It isn't even a grand master item. I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked up and the NG+ set was supposed to be the Grandmaster set.

STOCKS AND WHIP AWAIT THOSE RUNNING RIOT
OUR DUCHY VALUES PEACE AND QUIET

>>144617842
Where would that put Geralt, who managed to defeat him?

>>144618029
Luckiest motherfucker in the universe

>>144618029
Geralt got help from Regis who is as strong, if not stronger, than Dettlaff

>>144618029
>>144618118
And also this >>144618109
Plenty of times in both the books and games where Geralt pulls through more or less only because of being a lucky motherfucker

>>144618118
Regis only dealt the final blow though.

>>144618109
Well, fair enough.

>>144618220
Before being thrown into a wall, Regis was beating Dettlaff up

>>144618029
Videogame character tier.

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>>144618270
>that chokeslam

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Post you professionals.

>>144618473
>tfw haven't bought them because I thought you wouldn't be able to wear them

>>144617772
Beast fight spoilers lmao dont read nigga just close eyes


Parry him in first state and then when he goes air and charges shoot him with crowsbows and he falls down. Then spin for huge damage and trigger phase 3 wich is easy.

>>144618597
People actually use crossbows to bring down flying enemies?
What are you, casuals?

So should I do the DLC before the final quest or after? Blood and Wine has stuff in it that references for example Ciri's Witcher ending, how the fuck does that work? I don't understand how Witcher 3 handles new games, I've never actually completed it yet. I've heard it just reverts you to your save before the final bit.

>>144618717
So you wait or randomly try to swing you sword when flying enemy charges you and hope you hit it? Thats sounds pretty casual to me.

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>>144618597
>hit him during his dive with Igni
>he crashes into me and sends me flying into one of his traps
>killed by bats going at incredibly hihg speed a minute later

Reminder that Skellige deck is non-canon. Gwent is an ancient tradition and it's perfect just the way it is.

>>144618820
>getting everything spoiled for yourself before finishing the game
Jesus christ, anon. You can keep playing after finishing the main story, nothing in the main game will acknowledge it though.
Play HoS during Final Preparations, and BnW after the main story.

>>144618875
>not using aard /igni to knock down diving monsters
Embarrassing desu.

>>144619007
Dumb midgetposter

>>144619000
Thats why you shoot him with crossbow so he is not in your face when he lands.

Mod that makes all armor look like Manticore when?

>>144619078
>Jesus christ, anon.
This is the case with 90% of the games I play nowadays and half the time it's my own fault because I'm a fucking retard and I hate myself for it and am filled with regret.

But thanks for the answer.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

this scene had me crying

>>144619007
I can't believe BnW actually, unironically has a quest that involves a bunch of retards arguing about canon.
It's like CDPR know.

>>144619254
You're in for a treat during the Gwent tournament

>>144619314
They also pretty much included an old /krw/ meme during the main quest
Ironically part of the best part of the expansion

Damn, Detlaff was a good bossfight. And that intro of him vs. Regis was very good too.
>from shitty twilight "humans with plastic teeth and colored contacts" vampires
>to nosferatu-like monsters and the matrix
>to fucking blood magic
So cash. Can't deal with it though, will have to replay.

>>144619423
>an old /krw/ meme
Huh. Explain?

>>144619530
They had to add some silver lining to the worst endings

>>144619596
The unseen one is pretty shitty. The magic realm is superior. The cave was boring grey mass. Was fun to die during talk scene tho.

>>144619564
>girl gradually turned into a monster by a curse
>eventually she was completely lost to the curse
In the /krw/ meme the girl was Ciri and it was caused by the surviving Crone instead of the girl being some French girl who was cursed by Gaunter

>>144619254
The way you ruin, seemingly gratuitously, their precious moment is hilarious.
The lady even cries after the cutscene

>>144619752
The silver lining to the bad endings is that while you have to kill Dettlaff, his fight is GOAT
Shrekland was fun, though, even if having a Gwent addiction will lock you out of the best ending

>>144619254
>you fucking roleplaying faggots!!

>>144619874
You have to fight dettlaff 2/3 of the cases. If you get the wrist thing you get to fight dettlaff even if you go candy land.

I just bought the wrist bendant. What the gwent option does?

>>144620000
Czeched
Winning it through Gwent also forces you to kill Dettlaff and get locked out of the best ending

I want Regis to stop posting.

>>144620130
Best ending? I think best ending is dettlaf dies and henrita and sonnya become friends again. That the ending i got.

>>144620316
The best ending is letting Dettlaff kill the one responsible for all the bad that has been happening and not kill him afterwards. That way Toussaint is saved from an insane murderer and manipulator and still has its ruler while Regis gets to chill wherever he wants as well without being persecuted by his own kind.

>>144620479
>Detlaff not being a hypocritical faggot
He befriends some stupid count because he was nice to him, then gives treats to the bootblack because he is cute but ultimately he has no problem with slaughtering everyone (possibly the bootblack). Deserved to die like a rabid dog he is.

>>144620638
Because he thought his waifu was kidnapped. Detlaff got played like a fiddle.

>>144620638
He only killed people because his gf kidnapped herself and threatened to kill herself if he didn't do it
He was used and doesn't deserve to die because of Syanide's actions

>>144620479
Dettlaff deserved to die. Killing hundreds of people just becouse one woman is not giving you atention. Dettlaf was a bitch.

>>144620772
That only happened because Anarietta is blind to her sister being batshit insane and preventing Geralt and Regis from solving things the least painful way

Is there any fix for the lock on bug or Corvo Bianco not renovating?

>>144617206

Why the fuck does the game keep crashing whenever I try to look at a merchant's stock?

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>>144620738
he could have refused anytime

>>144620857
No.
Regards, Marcin #74 from Money Counting

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Why didn't Geralt just use Axii so this guy would tell the truth right away?
I mean, drinking wine with a hottie queen is fun and all, but plotholes like these always bother me a lot for some reason.

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>Marcin # 2911 pours his heart and soul out composing and arranging hours of new music for the expansion
>Marcin #1384 fucks up some script so that no music plays anywhere in the game

hahaha, get fucked Marcin. But also, get fucked Marcin. HOT FIX YOUR SHIT.

>>144620902
Then his woman would have ben killed according to the information he was given
His hand was forced and the one forcing his hand is the one who should be held responsible and be punished

>>144620950
>CDPR
>being jews

Beig butthurt about a lock bug not being fixed a week after release does not make CDPR jews, you spoiled faggot.

>>144621206
Geralt does not want to abuse his powers? he is dont have axii 4 coz they got nerves of steel.

>>144621206
How is it a plot hole? You might as well ask why Geralt doesn't just Axii every single person he comes across.

It's consistent with his character. You're primarily only given the choice to Axii when you're on the verge of a fight, to calm someone down, or given the chance to bribe someone. Plus he rarely uses it in front of people with political power.

>>144621296
*been
Damn laptop keyboard

>>144621323
>>144621432
Good points, thanks

>>144621323
When you just write without thinking and not spellchecking.

Thank god this is anonymous site.

What does Yennefer smell like?

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>>144621645
>tfw you have a discussion with yourself using different writing styles and post formatting

>>144621669
lily and goose

>>144621669
Shit and salt

so...
a-are there lewds in Blood and Wine?

>>144621669
Clone Vilgefortz and robo-Bonhart

>>144621825
Atleast one near the end.

>>144621825
You can fuck a reverse Oreo

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>No Blade 2 style Epilogue were you kill Oriana YOU HAD ONR JOB CDPR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEqB8B5hroU

Ahahah holy fuck, just did the 'shrooms quest.

Man that was entertaining.

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>>144622125
>killing a Higher Vampire all by your lonesome

>>144622125
Witcher: The Blade when?

>>144622182
>Eskel claims to have killed a higher vampire during the drinking scene

Was he lying or is he just a much better Witcher than Geralt?

>>144622289
Eskel is better at signs or something

>>144622289
There's the class of vampires called 'higher vampires' like bruxae and katakans and then there are Higher Vampires like Regis, Dettlaff and Orianna

>>144622289
Maybe he is. Eskel might have even crazies storys and adventures than Geralt. We never know.

>>144622373
This is a bit confusing desu.

>>144622289
Geralt kills a higher vampire in Novigrad. They both just managed to find the retard children.

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>Roach has a quirky male voice

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Got a nice haircut from the guy I rescued

>>144622769
But she's a mare

>>144622806
Seems like a perfect fit for that fatty armor. :^)

>>144622810
How many talking animals have you encountered? How do you know what they should sound like?

>>144622951
Talk with your mum's fucking ferret on the regular

>the only way to get the best Roach and not get the worst ending is to betray Roche
WHY

>>144622889
>fatty armour

But anon, that's not the Griffin set

>>144623017
...He's quoting the quest you fool.

>>144623043
>not getting your brown Roach killed and taming a white Roach out in the woods

>>144623082
We settle this with fists!

Finished Blood & Wine earlier. I made Syanna and Duchess be friends again because I felt bad for Syanna and Detlaff seemed a bit beta.

Big question though. Since Detlaff loved Syanna, why didn't she just say "Please kill these knight assholes for me because you love me and they were mean to me" ?

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>no new crying Ciri scenes
disappointed

The one sex scene between geralt and ciri, I know that it isn't actually meant to be in the game but is it a glitch or some sort of mod?

>>144623157
what

>>144623082
It may not be, but grandmaster urine makes you look fat all the same. Can't believe CDPR dropped the ball again with it.

Post fashionable witchers /wtc/

i need inspiration

>>144623283

>tfw had to start a new DLC only save because I overwrit my original save with a low level new one
>tfw Dandelion comes to visit and not Ciri

>>144623289
it's a mod

>can't go back to Vlodimir and tell him you smashed dat Shani puss

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>>144622806
>>144622889

>>144622182
she's the one Geralt kills all by his lonesome in the cinematic

Geralt also kills Dettlaff mostly by himself.

I'm pretty sure an eminently skilled and prepared witcher has at least a 50/50 shot of killing one. Although they aren't really 'killed' but whatever.

>>144623428
I feel you man, had the same thing happen to me

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>>144623231
>I felt bad for Syanna
How? All the bad things that happen are because of her
> why didn't she just say "Please kill these knight assholes for me because you love me and they were mean to me" ?
Because she's a monster in human skin and wanted Dettlaff to suffer while she could feign innocence

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>>144623372
A quick guide to fashion:
Strap Manticore (alternatively, mastercrafted Feline) set to the witcher
Enjoy your fashionable witcher

>>144623428
>default Geralt is a fucking failure
What a surprise desu.

>>144623658

Syanna had a bad childhood and doesn't seem to have grown up at all. All she needed was a friend or something.

The entire point of Blood and Wine is that Syanna, the Duchess, and the knights were all monsters and that eventually manifested in the corruption of Dettlaff who, by all accounts, was an innocent individual prior to his encounter with Syanna.

Dettlaff was a monster of their making.

>>144623994
>eventually manifested in the corruption of Dettlaff
>Dettlaff was a monster of their making
hahahaha no

>>144624130
Anarietta is to blame for that since she kept Syanna in Shrekland instead of just letting Geralt and Regis take her to meet Dettlaff

>That random relic sword near Regis behind the illusion
>No ghost comes to fight you and it can be silver
the fuck

>>144623994

Doesn't Regis mention Detlaff having a bit of a temper or something?

Sounded like he always had the potential to be an asshole and Syanna pushed him over the edge. Fucking up the city was over the top, the guy had clear issues.

>>144623848
And just how many lives did she ruin in the process? I got the "good" ending and it pisses me off to no end that Syanna's likely to get off near scot-free after causing so much misery for so many people.

Next playthrough; Syanna dies, Detlaff dies. I feel bad from killing his ass last time but it kinda needs to be done.

Depending how I feel I may end up adding the queen to that as well, since she's on my shitlist too.

>>144623994
Dettlaff was monster before. He is higher vampire that has lived since dawn of time. Nothing to do with current tossaunt. Syanna merely made him show his rage.

>>144624656
Annarietta literally did nothing wrong. Why would you ever want her dead as well?

>>144623428
Wait what? Ciri comes to visit? How do I make this happen?

>>144624656

I kind of felt like Syanna had been through enough shit at is was, what with being forced out by her parents (who apparently wanted her dead) and being abused by the knights etc

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>>144617206
Anyone know why pic related is happening? Sometimes the game textures show this weird crisscross-pattern, especially if the texture is fading or is in shadow. Happened in witcher 2 also, but was much more severe. Only the witcher games tho, all my other games are fine

I have a r9 380 4gb and a i5-6500. I can run the game at 40-60 fps with high settings 1080p. Could it be that the game is optimised for nvidia instead of amd? I've had a few driver updates recently too, so i guess that might be it... Anyone else run into this?

>>144624656
>being such a hardcore moralist
you were not meant for this game

>>144624832
Don't get together with anyone during the base game
You'll be drinking fabric softener after seeing it, though, since it was translated by wikifags

>>144624802

>Stops Syanna from going to Detlaff so innocent people in her city die

>>144624832

I think you have to make her a witcher and finish with no romance or something

>>144624832
If she does it prob have to do how you finished the main game. Triss came to me. If Yen is your gf then she comes. Dendylion comes if you dont have gf.

>>144624967
Dan only comes if Ciri is RIP

Does Radovid automatically win against Nilfgaard if I don't take the assassination quest?

>>144624890
Geralt himself is a hardcore moralist. You'd know this if you had read the books.

>>144624954
>protects her dear sister from a literal monster so she can stand trial later
Woooow

>>144624967
>>144625034
Pretty sure Dandy Lion comes if you try to romance both Triss and Yen.
For Ciri to come you have to tell both of them to fuck off.

>>144625128
Yes. The whole nilfgaard is winning is just propagande meme. You learn this when you are at the emperor palace and you talk to the guy after you meet yen.

>>144625149
I've read them. Book Geralt would understand Syanna, just like he understood Renfri.

>>144625128
Yes.
He has been playing YuGiOh! while everyone else has been playing Fish

>>144625184
Her sister was a monster. Anarietta being a huge fan of nepotism doesn't make Syanna's actions less horrible.

I've never tried it before, how do you do a signs build, is Firestream any good?

>>144625237
Well fuck, didn't want to assassinate him. Btw, I've been spoilered already that I'll have to make a choice in regards to Dijkstra vs Roche, is this part of the main quest in Novigrad?

>>144625373
>how do you do a signs build
Press Q

>>144625405
It's not in the main quest, but you'll get that quest once you progress far enough in the main story.

>>144625249
He might understand her motives but just like he struck down Renfri because she was about to murder innocents, he wouldn't let Syanide get away with what she had done.

>>144625519
But will it still happen if I don't do the assassination quest?

>>144625405
ITs not part of "main quest" but its a major quest and yes you need to make a choice.

>>144624802
She threw two guys in jail for high treason, who were only tangentially involved in the whole plot and didn't have any idea of its true nature, yet when it comes to dealing with the mastermind suddenly she's all about her fee-fees and not y know, seeing any kind of justice done. Like most people in toussant, shes about upholding virtue and law when it suits her to do so.

Mind the rustle of my jimmies, I kind of liked her at the beginning but her actions, attitude and decisions later in game soured me, regardless of their personal nature.

>>144625580
You need to do the assasination quest. Do you want radovid as leader? If yes dont kill him. If yes killhim and then you need to choose between roche and fatguy

>>144625747
>talking shit about big D Sigi
Shiggy

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I have made a huge mistake.

Please for the love of God can I get rid of this shit without mods

>>144625819
You'll need mods, bro

>>144625819
Get glasses and geralt puts hood down.
>>144618473

>>144625802
>fatguy holds his speech of how Radovid's father made Redania great and how his son will ruin it
>actually Redania wins the war if not for fatguy's intrigue

I want to have a drink with Regis
n-no homo

>>144625548
No, he killed Renfri to stop what she was about to do, not as a punitive action for what she had done. He wanted her to leave the town. Geralt is not the kind of man to punish people for their past actions.

>>144626024
>Geralt is not the kind of man to punish people for their past actions.
He wanted to kill Cahir for trying to kidnap Ciri.

>>144626079
Well, when things touch him more personally or his beloved ones, sure.

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>>144625819
Any kind of headwear (masks included) will put down the hood.
Grandmaster sets were a mistake.

>>144626154
The games really lack "moralise for 5 pages" options. 1 had a few of them but Geralt never really spergs out about anything in the games.

So what exactly makes Dettlaff so strong? Just being an old ass vampire?
Is there anyone in the world who could defeat that ceiling asshole?

>>144626560
Borch Three Jackdaws but Dettlaff would just regenerate anyway
And yes, just being a Higher Vampire is what makes him as strong as he is

>>144626560
He is higher vampire.

Reigis, eny other high vampire, unseen one can beat him and kill. Like you didint even play the game.

>>144626560
Well Geralt killed him single handedly since Regis got knocked out right away.

He just needed another higher vampire to defeat his plot armor.

Is it too late to get the painter to paint Geralt if I'm already done with the main expansion quests?

>>144626740
>Regis
Only if there are no walls or columns anywhere nearby.

>>144626856
Na. Afaik the only quest that's locked after you do the main quests is the tournament one (and by extension the Guillaume - Vivienne quest).

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>>144623848
>he believes that that nurture is more important than nature

>>144626910
He had a bad day. Dettlaff was in rage.

>>144626913
Aight, thanks

>>144626964
Humans can be programmed like any other electrical system so nature, if such thing exist, matters very little or nothing

>>144626910
What is it with Poles and being defeated by inanimate objects?
Eredin gets beat by a bridge and Regis by a column and a wall

so are the only outcomes for the tree lady quest is fight her ghost cause you fuck up the spell, or the wood cutter dies?

>>144627647
You can just free her.
Look for her knight's remains under the witch's hut.

>>144627792
must have missed them, figured there was a reason for that cave to be there

yes kikkimores, attack me

in this moment I am euphoric

NG+ or NG?

>>144628008
NG

Friendly reminder that the prison endings are the best endings for everybody involved

>Annarietta lives, Toussaint keeps its much loved and reasonably competent ruler

>Syanna dead, well deserved

and either

>Regis doesn't have to spend the rest of his life on the run

or

>Dettlaff dead, well deserved

Also

>that comfy dandelion prison scene
>Annarietta will eventually come to terms with the fact that her sister was a damaged, deranged psychopath who wanted to kill her and move on with her life knowing her death was a blessing in disguise

>>144628040
NG+ that bad? I've heard it's somewhat harder than NG.

"Dear Geralt,

Your last shipment of wine was excellent. I received Yen's letter, as well. It seems Corvo Bianco is doing her wonders despite her constant use of black.

[A red stain]

Unfortunately, I can't stay overlong with the pleasantries! I have an important favor to ask you. It seems I've gotten in to a little bit of trouble with an Ofieri Sultan. He was coming to visit Novigrad, thinking of places to see; I somehow got in the running for him to stop by the Rosemary & Thyme. He invited me to the Southlands... Long story short, I'm in a dungeon in the Far South and there is sand everywhere and I could really use some help. Please?

Your dearest and most loyal friend to whom you owe so many favors,

Dandelion."

>>144627792
well i got the bones, and geralt just burned the handkerchief and there was no option to burn the bone either

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BANANA TIGGUH BANANANANANA

>>144628065
Not the best ending. It's just the "happy" ending. Anna and Syanna dying and Regis banished is the "best" ending because it results from dramatic irony -- it results from trying to do everything right.

1. You follow Regis' advice.

2. You get that magic ribbon.

3. You aren't some whoreson who randomly sympathizes with surprisingly wrinkled, deceiving wenches.

4. You warn Anna Henrietta, but she doesn't heed your warnings.

You try to do everything right, even follow Regis' advice, but everything still goes to shit.

>>144628570
What's this?

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>no more anna henrietta, regis and b.b.
>tfw the entire game is an assortment of great characters that are taken from us all too soon

>tfw spent all my money on grandmaster shit
Any of the runes from the last dlc worth getting?

>>144628746
What happens to Barnabas-Basil? He's still around in my game.

>>144628570
>Rosemary & Thyme
>Yen writing to Dandy Lion
You didn't try at all.

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Just finished the first Witcher again so I could use a save for the second game.

Now, looking at the graphics options for Witcher 2, I see there's 3 kinds of DOF: during gameplay, during cutscenes and something that's said to be Cinematic DOF. Should I just all three off?

>>144628980
Well, he doesn't die. He just runs out of his use fairly quickly.

>>144629103
I was taking it as Yen and Geralt retired to their little vineyard and Dandelion still runs the tavern in Novigrad. Did I miss something?

>>144629209
Absolutely. DoF in general is pretty atrocious, but it's even worse than that in W2.

>>144629267
Dandy Loins renames it to Chameleon. The devil's in the details, lad.

>>144628741
I agree everyone dies is the most poignant (and would probably be '''''canon''''' if sappywappy had written it into a book).

But that's not what I was arguing anon, I was saying it's the best outcome, not that it makes the most sense.

>>144629454
I think we have different standards for "best." I like the one which most reminds me of a legendary greek tragedy.

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>>144629386

Got it. Cheers.

>>144629540
Look as long as we agree the ending where Syanna lives is shit we're all good

>>144628743
>>144629103

"So, Dandelion's in trouble? Again?"

Geralt sighed and turned to look at the sorceress who had been reading over his shoulder.

"Yeah. Something he's done in Ofier."

"Well, he should count his blessings. At least he's not getting lynched again," Yen said. While her wardrobe might have changed to match the southern climate (a cream and pea-green as opposed to her insufferable black), her sarcasm sure hadn't.

Barnabas-Basil, blanched and hobbled back, leaning his weight on his cane.

"Lynchings, my lady?"

"Dandelion has an insufferable knack for irritating his betters," Yen said, matter-of-factly.

Geralt rolled his eyes and read the letter again, the parchment worn and torn from travel. Out on the hills, the morning sun was just catching the vines of Corvo Bianco. Over the years, Zoltan, Dandelion, Triss, and even "Her Imperial Majesty," Ciri, had visited his small vineyard in northern Toussaint. None had dragged him back into adventure. But now...

>>144629653
Of course. Syanna's terrible. I'm still pissed I couldn't decline her offer to fuck with a "You've probably got vagina dentata, you creepy, manipulative weirdo."

Albeit written in a way Geralt would be more likely to say.

>fighting Eredin on DM
>manage to stun lock him with Rend
>2nd phase took a while to load so Eredin was sitting on 0% with me still able to attack him
>2nd phase loads then instantly ends with Eredin on 10% HP

Oh well.

what do you think geralt dies to

>>144630968

Too much sex

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What the fuck? my unicorn really is turning into Roach

>>144630968
Shitty writing.

Why is the big bad of the Witcherverse literally Snow.

>>144629694
A week later, on the docks of the Free City of Novigrad.

"You're goin' tae blasted Ofir?!"

Zoltan was incredulous. Sure, he knew of Dandelion's predicament, but through the years they'd agreed not to disturb Geralt, even when debt collectors came knocking or bumpkins and grillocks infested the sewers. The Witcher had more than earned his rest.

"I've already hired a team'a sellswords to go track the bastard down and pay whatever ransom he's racked up in the south. Ye don' need tae go!"

Geralt looked at the Dwarf. He wore his years poorly. Grey had infected Zoltan's beard and mustache, making his facial hair look like a mop from a striped Zerrikanian horse.

"I'm going. This isn't wine. It's blood."

Geralt pointed to the wrinkled letter again.

"Dammit. What about Yen? What about the vineyard?"

"B.B. takes care of the vineyard. And Yen told me she wants me to find 'some large and exotic Ofieri beast' for her to taxidermy."

The dwarf gave the witcher a queer look, and Geralt rolled his eyes.

"Nevermind. I just need passage. If anything, I'll just make sure your sellswords are doing their job."

>>144628552
It ruins Manticore gear

>>144631448
Already have a full set. Any other gear that looks different in NG+?

>>144631398
Because CDPR thought the ice age was something else

>>144631398
Dude. Don't even worry. We never saw the Far North. If anything, the big bad is "light snow."

Far North has snow dragons and mammoths.

>>144631582
If you're going into NG+ after B&W you're gonna be super overlevelled since NG+ is just a hard +30 to everything's level

I'm going to marry my daughter and force her to call me papa

>>144632036
Fuck off, Sanic

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>Decide to wait for both expansions to release before starting my second playthrough
>BnW comes out, playthrough 2 underway
>Get through Heart of Stone
>Love it so much immediately start BnW despite not finishing the game.
>Learn the ending to BnW changes depending on your NG ending

Everything in the base game feels like a chore despite only getting a small taste of what BnW has to offer. How do you make it, bros? And I can still get the different ending if I drop everything and finish the main quest despite doing a main mission or two in Toussant?

>>144632120
How does the ending change?

>>144632120
You should be able to, yes

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POST SYANNAS!

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>>144632093
Don't call me that. It's papa or Deithwen Addan yn Carn aep Morvudd.

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>>144632584
k

>>144632120
The only thing that changes is the post-BnW epilogue, which you can only access by finishing the main story. And yes, you should be fine.

>How do you make it, bros?
I don't fucking know. The expansions are way too good compared to the main game.

>>144631886
Thought that might be an issue. Fucking hell, I was overleveled even in the main game.

>>144632619
Sorry, can't hear you over the Green Hill Zone theme

>>144632697
So if I finish BnW and then go and finish the main story, do I just go back to BnW and the epilogue will start?

Syanna is my new waifu now guys. We have alot in common personality wise and experinces. Can I have good lictures of her? Thanks.

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>>144632906
Anon pls

>Ciri thinks just going around and doing monster contracts makes her a Witcher

>>144633005
>CDPR can't write
FTFY

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>>144633005
Every fucking thread. You should just end yourself already.

Holy fuck I forgot how bad the combat was in this game

Witcher or empress ending, /kurwa/?

Does Ciri show up if I go for empress?

>>144633241
Just fuck a bitch and you won't have to drink bleach after the Ciri vineyard dialogues

>>144633174
That's a pretty good costume. Wrong outfit, though.

>>144632997
Why? What I speak is true I am now plotting against those who bullied me during the past once I become successful I will exact my terrible plan of revenge upon them.

>>144632835
It should.

But it won't, shit's bugged right now. You can only trigger the post-BnW epilogue if you finish the main game first.

>>144633174
>Ciri
>ever wearing that
Nice try schizo

>>144633241
Empress seems like the better one. Apparently she does show up, though I was under the impression she only shows up with the witcher ending.

>>144633324
What?

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Posted in last thread not realizing it was dead. Always wondered how my game looked. I think it looks good, most on Ultra/High with no frame rate drops.

>>144633395
Geraltfags = Children of single mothers
Yenfags = Called a teacher mom at some point
Trissfags = Normalfags
Cirifags = Betas
Rochefags = Wish they had a big brother
Iorvethfags = Want to join ISIS but their families won't let them
Saskiafags = Closet scalies
Philfags = Regret not calling a teacher mom at some point
TW2Radfags = Always plotting a master plan that will never come to be
TW3Radfags = Can be woken up in the middle of the night and asked to recite any random page of Mein Kampf flawlessly
Dijkstrafags = Know how to banter at high levels but have no friends to banter with
Lambertfags = Were beaten as kids and now frequent /r9k/
Lethofags = Meme connoisseurs
Irisfags = Cry easily
Olgierdfags = Lost a bet and their friends over a game of football
Gaunterfags = Overall great people
Regisfags = Accidentally once brushed hands with their friend and now fantasise about holding hands with them
Dettlafffags = Wear trenchcoats on the rare occasions they go outside and get mad easily especially when they've been pranked
Anariettafags = Francophiles who have never been to France
Syannafags = got bullied as kids and now subject people to pranks that inevitably go too far

>>144633442
>Empress seems like the better one.
No, just no.

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>>144633559
Forgotten again.

>>144633452
CDPR got some interns that don't know the lore to write and translate the Ciri B&W epilogues
They're so bad you'll want to kill yourself afterwards

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>>144633241
Witcher

>>144633635
Shanifags = Hipsters who hum Olgierd's fight theme in the shower and always looked up to their big brother

>>144633559
>normalfag that appreciates banter and regrets not calling a teacher mom at some point
Why is this so accurate?

>>144633840
Now you've gone too far. Olgierd's theme is god-tier.

Why does Geralt use a Silver Sword to fight the Wild Hunt?

>>144633928
>Now you've gone too far.
You prefer "hipsters who wish they were Vlodimir"?

>>144634132
game mechanics

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>>144631439
Ofir or Ofier? Nordlings -- even works from Nilfgaard spelled it differently depending on the author. In the end, it didn't matter. It was just letters from the continent strewn together to approximate the weird sounds made by the natives of the Far South.

The heat was almost unbearable for the Novigrad crew. And the humidity had spoiled half their food stores. It had been a miracle when they finally saw land. In more ways than one.

Rising from the dunes was a city to rival Nilfgaard. Immense domes and minarets reached into the sky. As the sun rose and the ship neared the port, a lament began to sing from every tower.

"Welcome to Ofier, master witcher. They sing like this every morning. It is... not pleasant," the captain said, looking back at the still-clothed Geralt. Most of the Nordlings were sweating like pigs, having left their shirts in their cabins and hamocks.

The navigator at the wheel groaned,

"Worse than fecking roosters, these prayer-callers."

>>144634170
Getting there, Shanifags certainly deserve no better. Not that they exist or anything.

I'm doing my DLC playthrough and I need to know some stuff about the ending I'm going for.

Ideally I want Ciri to become a Witcher b-because that is what she REALLY wants, r-right? and the North to win the war, but I can't do that without letting Radovid live, right? Or is it that Radovid can die, but I then have to let Dijkstra live, and kill Roche & friends? Because I'm fine with Dijkstra living, not so much with Roche & Co. going the way of the dodo.

Is there something I'm missing that would let me have a "perfect" ending?

>>144633559
Fuk. Its true I guess kek.

>>144634928
Don't take Ciri to see Emhyr (why would you anyway) and just break Dijkstra's leg.

>>144630968
age

>>144635037
>why would you anyway
Best Roach.

>break Dijkstra's leg
Rude.

>>144634928
The end of Reasons of State is so poorly done that you can easily make a better scene in your mind that is more true to Dijkstra's character if you can't stand to watch the Temerian sell-outs stare doe-eyed at the wall as the screen fades to black.
And yes, the thing Ciri wants the absolute most is freedom and she will get that as a witcher.

>>144618118
Detlaff beat Regis with little difficulty.

Remember, Regis is severely weakened in B&W.

>>144634132
they are magical beings

>>144635037
It's been a year since I did my first playthrough so I'm a bit rusty. I think I remember breaking Dijkstra's leg a second time that time, as well, but then I brought down Mad Rad and he still tried to off Roche & Co. And that also doesn't answer my question as to whether killing Rad will result in an automatic loss for the North or not.

>>144635134
It's not like you haven't broke his leg before

>>144618029
Euphoric tier

>>144635275
Sure, but breaking it again for no good reason is just barbaric.

>>144635271
If you break Big D Sigi's leg, he won't invite you over to continue the assassination plan

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>>144635235
Regis had an opportunity to kill him before Geralt could even get a hit in, but he hesitated and got thrown into a wall.
If Regis was weakened they were still at least evenly matched.

>>144626175

>implying
Grandmaster bear, griffin and wolf look really great. The only problem with cat was the hood.

>>144635479
not a swastika / 10

>>144635271
If you break his leg you can't continue the assassination. If you complete the assassination the only way the North still wins is if you let Dijkstra kill Roche, Ves and Thaler.

>>144635231
Maybe, but I'd still rather not if possible. Is it literally not an option to kill Rad without Dijkstra trying to off them? That's so shit.

Does the North at least win if Dijkstra takes over? And, for that matter, what does Siggy do with everything once war's won?

>>144635428
Alright, I must have heard about the leg-breaking elsewhere, then. That doesn't really help me, though, since I want to kill Rad.

>>144635674
The North wins, but Deegstra kills all your friends and enslaves Temeria/Northern Kingdoms in a Northern Empire like Nilfgaard, minus Emhyr.

>>144635674
Sigi will win because Emhyr, unsurprisingly given his previous two failed attempts, can't figure out how to take over the Northern Kingdoms
He'll more or less lead the entire North into communism under the Redanian banner

>>144635896
Nilfgaard wins + Emhyr replaced by Ciri is best ending.

>>144635537
>bear
Mediocre as ever, only now you look fat in it.

>wolf
Same as mastercraft, but with more metal bits on top of the jacket. It's just overdesigned, I think.

>griffin
Still has the old belly.

>>144614739
>Velen (-Keira)
Do you mean the Ladies of the Wood shit? Because I'm playing NewGame+, and I'd like to try that route.

>>144636062
I hate the metal shit on the grandmaster wolf gear.

>>144635834
>>144635896
Jesus Christ what the fuck. What the fuck does Rad do if he lives and wins? I mean Rad is fucking insane but I'm almost tempted to just not kill him if that's what the Dijk does.

Does Rad actually go batshit on the mages in his victory? Because that's a bit of a deal-breaker there, though.

God, is it literally better to just fucking let Emhyr win? I mean Christ.

>>144635972
No.
Ciri is in no way a person to lead an empire and would be dead inside from literally having been sold off to her biological father who wants to fuck her to ensure world dominance.

>installed the 420grass and better hairworks mod
>FPS goes from 50 to 20
>uninstall them
>still 20 fps on average
wew lads i fugged up

>>144636169
mad rad purges all nonhumans and magic people

djikstra unites the north and promotes industry

>tfw the new game+ Witcher 2 simulation save settings were so poorly worded that I don't know if it transfered over my old Witcher 2 save or not

>>144636169
Rad will rule sternly and complete his race war

>>144635479
i painted a lake with meadow and flowers :3

>>144636314
>>144636435
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I HAVE TO LET ROCHE DIE DON'T I

>>144636169
Mad Rad rapes magic-users, nonhumans, unbelievers, southerners, and all your friends to death.

>>144636580
Yep.

>>144636169
Nilfgaard might have ninja throwing stars but you'll make the North second-rate citizens in their own kingdoms

>>144633559
The fact that you spent time writing all this is sad

>>144614739
How is going to Skellige after Velen more consistent when the Baron tells you Ciri was headed to Novigrad?

>>144636648
I just copy+pasted it from a previous thread. No need to get your knickers in a twist, Cirifag

>>144636169
Just ignore the political bullshit, it doesn't make any sense in W3.

>>144636169
Is there a single person Geralt even associates with who is still alive by W3 that Radovid wouldn't want to kill?

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>>144636169
Radovid ups the ante on mages and starts burning more of them. Also begins large-scale pogroms/ethnic cleansing on elves/dwarves/non-humans in general.

Yes, it is actually better to just fucking let Emhyr win. (And then if you make Ciri empress, you cut Emhyr out of the equation all together, and suddenly you have a united empire under your adopted daughter).

Emhyr doesn't fuck Ciri if she becomes Empress. He's basically out of the picture.

>>144636580
No.
Don't play politics and just protect your friends.

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>>144636947
Ciri doesn't want to run an empire and has no qualifications for it either

>>144636062

>only now you look fat in it

How? It's literally just the same as mastercrafted but with fur on the shoulders and back, and some extra bags and straps. There's nothing that makes geralt look any fatter. He looks a bit more bulky from the back but that's mainly due to the fur.

>still has the old belly

I don't mind the belly too much, honestly. Most basic breastplates look like that, and honestly there are bigger "belly" breastplates in the game anyways.

>>144623580
>she's the one Geralt kills all by his lonesome in the cinematic
Nope she's probably just a random bruxa

>>144636947
Emhyr is losing control by the time you get the option to make Ciri Empress. He steps down because the burghers and barons are on the verge of revolt due to his two failed attempts to conquer the North.

>>144628936
>>144628936
>>144628936
Pls respond

>>144637017
But you posted three completely normal humans, anon.
>>144637115
Not really

>>144619254
>this scene had me crying
Reddit?

>>144637068
It doesn't matter what she wants, unfortunately. She's the best for the job, despite her lack of qualifications. The Nilfgaardian Empire runs on bureaucracy, not its fearless leader. All Emhyr has done is lead it into ruinous wars. Hence why the Empire revolts against him and begins a bloody civil war if he loses. The Empire is best when the machine is working and the leader at the top is rarely involved.

Ciri grants stability, but also compassion and morality at the wheel, instead of Emhyr's power-hungry egomania.

>>144637013
then you wouldn't help kill rad in the first place

>>144637087
They went out of their way to model her exactly like the outsourced trailer, and also to make her sing the same song and do the same turning pose as in the trailer, but you think it's just a coincidence?

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>>144637226
>It doesn't matter what she wants
Congratulations of not understanding the books or the game
Are you American?

Can you give me all the major choices of B&W?

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>>144636940
Radovid stole all his strategies from Foltest

>>144636169
kek

falling for those shills

Dijkstra is the best ending and yes you spoiled fucking children, it comes at a price

>>144637297
Yeah. And what the fuck happened to John Natalie?

>>144636634
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>144636637
>>144637013
Honestly I don't know that I would care about Nilfgaard winning regardless. I mean, Emhyr is a fucking cunt but about the independence of the North, whatever. I mean aside from as a single unified state it's fucked anyway, so I don't know that I mind.

>>144636823
I have too much autism to do that anon.

>>144636879
I didn't think so, but I was hoping there was some hint of sanity in the backmost of Mad Rad's mind.

>>144636947
I made Ciri Empress in my last playthrough and she didn't seem all that thrilled. I get that it's the logical thing to do, but this playthrough I think I do want to play Geralt mainly protecting his friends. Letting Emhyr win the war, saving Roche & Co, and having Ciri follow him on the Path seems like it might be the best choice at this point.

>>144637297
If you look past the fact that he fucked his sister and wanted to have Ciri killed, sure he was a decent guy

>>144637321
At the end of the day, duty and the well-being of the entire continent matters more than Ciri's desire to be a little witcher girl. She'll learn this in time.

Sometimes, you -don't- spoil your children. Letting Ciri run off and become a witcher would be like Geralt spending 200k on a gender studies degree for her.

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>>144637017
Don't be silly now. My old friend Regis is just an ordinary old hermit.

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>>144636940

He was always meant to become as he was in Witcher 3.

>>144637205
Don't ever respond to one of my posts again.

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>>144618473
this is the god tier hair

>>144637513
>In this screenshot, Radovid was only 9 years old

>>144637347
Ciri as Empress of the Continent is best-ending. Don't even try me.

>>144637479
>Empressfags

>>144637643
DAD! I DON'T WANNA GROW UP. I WANNA KEEP READING GLORIA FRIEDAN-- I MEAN HUNTING MONSTERS. HOW DARE YOU TELL ME I NEED TO MAKE SOMETHING OF MYSELF.

>>144637479
Ciri will kill herself or be killed soon after the epilogue since she is in no way cut out for ruling anything
She does however know how to swing a sword and not get killed by things out in the woods so letting her have her freedom and do what she has always wanted to do is the best for everyone
Have you read the books?
Are you American?

>>144637616
good trolling

>>144637616
>Papa

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>>144618473

>>144637801
Yes, I've read the books. Yes, I'm American.

Why would Ciri be killed? If Emhyr tries to rule again, the empire will revolt from beneath him. If anyone tries to kill Ciri (the heiress that hasn't done anything wrong), he will be reviled and the empire will revolt. It is stable under Ciri.

>>144637258
No, it's probably just some reused assets.

Dettlaff is literally me but with vampire powers

>>144637616
I agree

-Vhooris

>>144637743
Most everyone in the Witcher universe is a piece of shit, they don't deserve a good Empress. Muh Ciri deserves to be happy, she deserves to THINK she's a witcher and to BELIEVE she is a witcher also SHE IS NOT A WITCHER BECAUSE HE NEVER DID ENOUGH STEROIDS.

>>144637901
>im murrican

get out reeee

>using the meme "WITCHER EYES" mod ever
Please remove yourself from this thread

>>144637910
It was a CGI trailer made by a different company.
There were no assets.

Which city has better theme, /krw/? Oxenfurt or Beauclair?

>>144637992
She's just a fucking kid that wants to have complete freedom and zero responsibilities.

Responsible papa picks Yen and Empress Ciri
Irresponsible parent picks Triss and Witcher Ciri
It's the only way desu

>>144637901
>Yes, I'm American.
Well that explains why you'd be an Empressfag
Reminder, 36:55 in https://youtu.be/qi18eycw7lc?t=36m55s

>>144638056
Yeah ok, they didn't reuse her character design, ok, and that's really Orianna even tho it's just a bruxa and not a Higher Vampire.

>>144638076
Beauclair > Novigrad (and outskirts) > Oxenfurt

>>144638104
>a fucking kid would make the best ruler of an empire ever I swear on my mom

I got the book that's supposed to tell you about gwent cards you're missing. It says I have 28 missing but it doesn't give me any information on where to find them. Is it bugged?

>>144638423
It says they're in Velen or whatever

have fun searching the entire region ;)

>>144638104
Would you rather have zero freedom and all the responsibilities? Because that's what awaits her in empress ending.

>>144637425
>I get that it's the logical thing to do
what the fuck?

>>144638228
This is Italian. It's not English or Polish. How do you expect me to understand this?

>>144638190
Yes.

>>144637992
Zoltan and Dandelion deserve a good empress. Yen does. Triss sorta does, despite being a daterapist. Regis does. All my friends do! Everyone else is just gravy, I guess.

>>144638291
Orianna is a bruxa dude.
>Marcin in charge of consistent lore

>>144638594
Which Marcin?

>>144638589
>It's not English or Polish
How can you be this retarded?

>>144638404
We've already established that active leaders are what makes the Empire even shittier. Just let the bureaucracy run it. We don't need big personalities like Emhyr Lannister.

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>>144638510
It doesn't tell me any region

>>144638589
Sapkowski was speaking English and you just proved him even more right.

>>144638291
Yeah Orianna is just a bruxa not a Higher Vampire, in fact the trailer "A Night to Remember" is a sequel to Blood and Wine, if you decide to follow Orianna's path you will understand.

>>144638190
I pick Yen and Witcher Ciri everytime

>>144638404
Rulers have advisors, they don't just pull decisions out of their ass.

>>144638870
This is the only reasonable and in-character choice for Geralt

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