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>Main Page:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page
>Stuff you should read but are probably too gay to read:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ
https://pastebin.com/UvruiPky
>Where can I watch the cup?
Literally on the wiki front page. Or Hitbox's.
>Videos:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos
>Archived games:
http://archive.klaxa.eu/
>Next Cup:
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2016_4chan_Summer_Cup
>/vg/ League 6 (currently ongoing):
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6
>Moeshit Cup (coming soon)
>http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Moeshit_Cup
>/ag/ League (coming soon):
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League
>Previously:
VGL6 in progress
>>144551215
Fuck's sake I blew it, previous thread is actually >>144395657, my bad.
who /co/ here?
>>144551297
I DON'T WANT MARGINAL IMPROVEMENTS! 1.04 DIDN'T FIX EVERYTHING ALWAYS SO IT'S SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTT
>both matches I've bet on tonight were draws
I fucking swear to got if /aceg/ match ends in a draw I quit betting forever
anime is gay
nth for /u/
E V E R Y O N E
G E T I N H E R E
>>144551502
One way or another PES is still broken. 1.04 might be a tiny improvement but it doesn't fix anything people hoped it'd fix. We need to keep looking for something else.
>>144551626
Is Akkarin bulking?
>>144551691
>We need to keep looking for something else.
FIFA already exists.
RIP /hanny/
>>144551297
Look at the matches. Even the ones with normal scorelines still go over 5 goals easily and most of the time.
PES 16 is a worthless, irremediably broken piece of shit, and unless PES 17 fixes everything we need to reconsider going back to another PES.
toki thread best thread
>>144551857
>PES 17 fixes everything we need to reconsider going back to another PES.
It won't but /merit/ will still go into it blind because that's the tradition
>>144551803
>no coach vs coach mode
I'm curious, how would the matches be played with FIFA?
>>144551857
The options are 14 and 15 if 17 is denuvo'd since those 2 are on the same engine
>>144551803
>FIFA
>>144552026
Then go with 15.
13 is also an option if we're willing to sacrifice a significant chunk of the aesthetics.
>>144552007
>actual online matches
Well there's another problem. Refs refusing to blow the whistle on time.
>>144552019
11 vs 11
Kills the problem of dead teams sustained by 1 merc alone.
>>144552019
Well, all we need to do is #sackallmanagers and there is no problem with no coach mode
>>144552441
and hardly calling fouls
/llsifg/ vs /hanny/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcekci91vgM&
Today is a good day for goals.
>>144552687
I TRIED SO HARD
>>144553087
I CAME SO FAR
>>144552703
>/hanny/ has scored more goals than group A
>will 0 point
>>144553150
BUT IN THE END
>>144553234
I think /hanny/ will at least beat /wotg/.
They don't deserve to end with zero points.
>>144553150
BUT IN THE END
>>144553332
>hanny beating a team that now plays with competent defence.
>>144553332
>>144552687
>>144552703
>>144553150
>>144553234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmWdAi-Z3so&list=PL7zndjgosVRe3aBaCVp1XWib1C1I1AhUV&index=43
New /hanny/ theme
I want PES 14 just so we can go 4-all20 again
>Aquors still carrying a bunch of broken vertices
>the other girls all have dead eyes
>>144553607
i want PES14 because Golds weren't complete retards AND for 4-20s
>>144553607
>>144553873
And then we can bring back the best edition of pes 14: 1.12
>>144553607
>>144553873
>all 4-20s
>those GOAT striker runs from players like Bert and Nachos
>non-game braking spaghetti
It's really saying something how PES 16 is so bad it's making me reminisce fondly about PES fucking 14
>>144554160
it's a shame it was a buggy mess
>>144553332
they will zero
>>144554729
>implying they won't lose 6-5 on a 90+er
>>144555038
yeah. For zero points.
>>144554681
If you mean the constant crashing, that was fixed in Winter '15, there were zero crashes that cup.
I'm never betting again
>>144556353
See you next week.
>>144556394
Ya know itIncluding the starting "free" 10 rigbucks I'm 21.45 rigbucks in debt. I plan on getting at least equal by the end of /vg/league
>Look a pony
SMUGLEAF
>>144556572
Opposite for me, every team I bet on ends up winning. Why can't I have this kind of good luck during an actual cup?I'm scared
>>144554160
Sick of kickoff abuse and through balls desu.
>>144556572
Bet on /hanny/ next week.
Are there any games on tonight?
Will /block/ play the winner of the VGL?
Can the /gerg/ menace be stopped?
Group D permutations:
/gerg/ are likely through no matter what, but a loss by 4 and /aceg/ win will kill them
/aceg/ need a win, draw and /nepgen/ non-win, or loss by 1 and /nepgen/ loss
/nepgen/ need a win and /aceg/ non-win or draw and /aceg/ loss
/hsg/ need a win by 2 and /nepgen/ loss
Current standing is
/gerg/ 6 +3
/aceg/ 3 +2
/nepgen/ 3 -3
/hsg/ 0 -2
This is gonna be fun
>>144526770
3.20
>>144526798
7.00
>>144526920
9.00
>>144527026
18.60
>>144528172
16.40
>>144528691
3.60
>>144528835
13.00
>>144528992
6.125
>>144529039
3.50
>>144530280
10.50
Total Bet: RB$230
Total Paid: RB$91.925
Total Profit: RB$138.075
>>144556572
>mfw today I got my rigbucks back and I am pretty much +-0
>>144557947
No /4ccg/ plays the winner, and apparently a VGL /trash/ is being worked on for added memes
>>144558674
/hanny/ should be the goalie of the /trash/ team
join fuccbois
https://epicmafia.com/game/5155820#
>>144558674
>a VGL /trash/
So just /vg/?
>>144558784
1more1ever
>>144558784
+1 desu
>>144558383
Another note: /nepgen/ need 4+ goal win for 100% safety
Also Group C permutations as if there's much at all
/llsifg/ are through
/drg/ need only a draw or non-blowout loss
/wotg/ are Fucked with a capital F but sufficient blowouts in their favor and against /drg/'s can get them through
>/hanny/
>le score 4 and lose team
Remember to come on Saturday to watch /hanny/ going out with a bang
>>144559574
/hanny/ actually scored 5.
>>144559720
Jesus fucking Christ not even /his/ have that shit a defense
>>144558784
+1 to whatever is being played
>>144559953
They did it twice in a row as well.
>>144560224
at this point may as well just fuck trying to fix the defense, they have a good enough attack just focus on that and outscore them
>>144560402
This desu
They have a clear strength and weakness, trying to do the opposite is what screwed /his/ out of Summer
>>144559720
>>144559953
It's theoretically possible for /hanny/ to score the most goals of any team in the group stage but zero point the group.
>>144557947
I'll probably challenge the winner yeah, but it'll be a later week. Sou was wanting to run something where /block/ played /4ccg/ too, but we've gotta work out the details before I can commit to that.
>>144560628
>TOSH could win the golden boot playing only 3 gamesnah I think Alpaca's got this shit
>>144561236
Alpaca has 8 goals in 2 games, no way anyone catches up unless he stops and /llsifg/ crashes in the Ro16
>>144560628
It's not just theoretically possible that this will happen, it's incredibly likely.
I said at the end of the stream that Smugleaf would be streaming on Friday, but apparently that might not be the case cause he might have real life shit on that day.
Meaning in that case, I might be streaming for Friday. I mentioned earlier though that all our options have flaws and my flaw is that my upload bitrate is pretty low1.5mbpsbecause I'm poor. So either I'll need to upgrade my internet slightly to have a higher bitrate or the stream might be kinda potato. We'll see.Can't wait for Sou to hopefully save us
>>144561332
>he
That one's the girl m8
>>144558629
I walk this empty street
On the Boulevard of Broken Shins
>>144560628
Is also theorical /nepgen/ can top the group
Thanks for watching today everyone, jesus christ that was more stressful than I expected.
If anyone plans on streaming in the future, I'd recommend a more diverse setup than myself kek
I couldn't do play by play because I only run a single screen setup and had to focus on IRC and Skype more for managers than talk about the game, also my headset is broken and my in built laptop mic is shit.
And jesus, make sure you run with a controller, double keyboard is not fun, sorry for taking too long with the away team setups, and sorry for rigging presetsMy 3 key is set up as back for P2, but changes the preset on P1 and I didn't know until halfway through
And I have no idea what happened to the /ddg/ game, I think it was a manmarking glitch. Apologies goes out to both managers and also the /aceg/ manager because my keyboard rigged his presettwice
Perhaps next time I'll be more prepared with a proper headset and a second screen
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIITZ!!!!
>>144561660
why doesn't boris just do it
>>144561485
Well from the sound of things their manager wants to double down on the aggressive play for the last match.
Merka you shit update the 4cc emote extension so I can post :llsifg: on shitbox chat
>>144562385
Cause his schedule probably doesn't line up right and I dunno if he even has the shit set up required to do it, I guess.
Who do I bandwagon in Summer?
>>144563195
/o/
>>144563195
/f//u//ck/ /mlp/All but the last one being legit bandwagon choices
>>144562108
never host again
/ddg/ lost because of you
>>144563621
PES crashed because of a /domg/ Manmarking glitch, get fucked
>>144563621
>mono-orange conditions are somehow rigged
>>144563725
It was most likely a borked player on /domg/'s bench, not manmarking.
Now that the group stage is halfway complete what have been the best moments of VG6 so far?
What is the best new meme?
>>144563818
I noticed that when I went to manmark, the /domg/ Gold DMF was already set to manmark, which shouldn't happen
I think that had something to do with it
The time it didn't crash, I accidentally manmarked the wrong player first, which might have reset it
>>14456393
Now that the group stage is halfway complete what have been the best moments of VG6 so far?
Both /hanny/ matches.
/toy/ soldiers gonna body some fools
>>144563935
/hanny/ in general
>>144563939
Maybe it had something to do with him being marked by two players?
>>144564437
Nah, because he was marked in the working attempt anyway
>>144563935
Yogg-Saron in /hsg/'s first game.
For those who don't know, Yogg is the most meme-tastic card in Hearthstone. He scored a GLT header at 3', and then another at 33' for trips, quads if you count the total score of /hsg/ that game, 3. The perfect entrance for that meme card.
What made that game all the richer was the cheeky lob from Ben Brode, literally yelling HAHAHAHAHA at the goalkeeper as he sunk it.
https://epicmafia.com/game/5155942
>>144564579
And yet your shitty team is still not gonna make it, gman
>>144564967
Fuck off.
>>144564993
When the chips are down, all you gotta do is play Reno and Get Rich
>>144564579
>>144564716
>>144564993
Man, you guys are so negative. Looks like this is a guy that likes /hsg/ and was brought into VGL with genuine interest. And you're just going to shit on him for having________fun________
>>144565331
There's also the chance it's literally Gman who is a frequenter on /hsg/ and even streams there
>>144565331
Fuck you, Gman
>>144564216
We need to get the fuck out of the fetus first
Then we can body some fools
>>144566703
>implying you can't body fools in the fetus as wellJust get drawn with /co/ and /c/ :^)
>>144566835
>/toy/ /co/ /c/
Literally group dildo
>>144566959
/toy/ /co/ /c/ /k/ is a legit group possibility
Thanks, dildo
>>144566959
Group /co//c//k/ is a possibility in fetus
>>144567070
Remember that time when a group with /toy/ /co/ and /v/ was a possibility and then it happened?
Good times
>>144566835
>/toy/ lost to /co/ last fetus
>/c/ got the better of the Spring runner-ups
>implying /toy/ could beat either of them
>>144567408
Well Dawgamus is back so I'd wager they have better chances now.
>page 9
>>144570365
Can anyone stop this mysterious camel with an insatiable lust for the net?
>>144570754
Depends if somebody can stop the giant robots
Or what could be worse, they fuse together into a mecha-alpaca
Anons, which team has had to go through relegation the most? I wanna support them this year.
>>144571069
/vitagen/
>>144571069
/jp/
>>144571069
/vp/
WHERE CAN I FIND THE MATCHES TO WATCH LATER?
I WISH TO WATCH /drg/ vs /hanny/.
Thank you RNGesus pls continue to be kind
>>144562108
No problem mate. Don't take it too hard.
Granzon also did a great job at putting us in a deadlock (good game buddy) and most of the testing I could do barely meant the differecne between a draw or close vicotry and a complete blowout, so don't think that would've made much difference.
Meanwhile at klaxa...
>>144575347
Look at the bright side, you only need a draw against /hsg/. Unless /nepgen/ does the impossible and defeats /gerg/, but what are the chances of that?
>>144576195
it's /m/ vs /m/ manager maybe he knows the weakness of his own team
>>144575573
The VODs from today are up btw
http://www.hitbox.tv/video/1051737
Also here's a screenshot to the hell that was my single 1366x768 screen setup
/hanny/ DESERVED BETTER. WHAT AN INCREDIBLE EFFORT IN BOTH MATCHES.
IT'S A SHAME THAT 10 GOALS WASN'T ENOUGH. I TRULY WISHED FOR YOU TO SUCCEED TODAY.WE WILL CARRY YOUR HOPE WITH US INTO THE FIELD.
>>144576545
worst yuru on skype right there
>>144576545
>2 blenders
For what purpose?
>>144577827
2.67 for RigEx and 2.71 for Blenderanon
>go to a match thread /sp/
>animegirlposting
>weebhating
>raceposting
>my flag getting ignored
Anything but talking about the game.
>>144551215wai wai
>>144577827
one for each hand
>>144577961
>going into a thread full of sudacas
I'll mention it one more time to make it clear to everybody: the deadline for signups is midnight utc next friday.
We're also accepting gametips and logos either here in the thread or on [email protected].I'm off to bed, try not to shitpost too hard.
>>144578191
Huehues or not, it's a pretty shitty place.
>>144576545
It's not the same without the chat tbqh.
Why has the VGLnot tenkhad better commentary than the real cup?
>>144578698
Yeah I had my PES more central so I could see the chat at the beginning, but didn't put it back there after the crash
I really missed the chat today, I hope you all had fun
>>144562385
Because Boris, like every cup fan that isn't a turboautist, doesn't give two shits about >VGL
>>144578832
Because in the Babbies any shitter out of the hundreds who watch can commentate, while in the Elites Boris just grabs his circlejerk pals all the time.
Meanwhile VGL gets good commentators like Rigtor, Tomato, and Diplo.
>>144579089
I love Diplo
>>144579093
FUCKING NORMIES
>>144579093
All pretty correct except the most important one, wealth;_;
I own a good laptop but that's all I have to my name
I'm a normie that is terrible at hiding my powerlevel
>>144574634
I'd fuck that smug little bastard.
>>144579093
why does that look like a knot
>>144579489
Gib link
http://m3ow.moe/ROLL.html
Pls don't break server.
>>144578832
>Nepgear, Marqod, Tomato, Diplo, and Rigtor
top comfy
>>144579992
wew, hello there
How do I join a team
>>144581376
Well first of all where do you even go?inb4 le /mlp/ spoiler man
>>144581469
/g/
>>144581469
/gsg/
>>144581469
/w/
>>144581469
/p/
>>144581469
/news/
>>144581469/seinfeld/
>>144581469
/ss/
>>144581469
England
>>144581469
to the bathroom when i have to pee pee poo poo xd
>>144585919
Already better than Hodgson
>>144579038
Norml's mentioned before that Boris is taking the one-season hiatus so he can possibly manage /owg/ in VGL7
>>144586242
Oh boy who ready for 5-1-2-2 winning
THIS HAND OF MINE...!glowswithanawesomepoweritsburninggriptelllsmetodefeatyoutakethismylovemyangerandallmysorrowshiningfinger
Daily reminder that kitfag is encouraging 4ccg posters
>>>/wsr/135505
>>144587148
so what circlejerk is mercing this one?
>>144587148
Cut the shit, let them do their own thing and figure out what they want.
That goes for you and Kitfag both. Although to be honest, I'd rather there just not be another dumb board like /wsr/.
>forget about >/vg/ league
>check wiki
>/hanny/ got /lit/-/his/'d twice
PES SIXTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
>>144587839
more like
>one card per player
>>144587839
more like
>1.04
>>144588558
>people are still blaming a minor patch change when pes16 is fundamentally bad and /hanny/ suck
/hanny/ are a shit team but their matches are genuinely fun to watch.
Best new inclusion to the VGL
>>144588893
This nigga gets it
>the 4cc will never become 100x as popular as it is now
>no one will ever successfully organize an irl football pick-up match open to 4cc fans
>4cc fans will never represent their teams in a real game
>you will never be able to slide tackle the shit out of some /wg/ jersey wearing motherfucker
feels bad man
I want to upload all my general's games from this league to a YT channel. Is there any way to download off hitbox?
>>144589027
>4cc becomes 100 times more popular
100 x 0 = 0
There'd still be no one to slide tackle.
>>144589590
DON'T SLIDE TACKLE ME OR MY WIFE'S SON EVER AGAIN!
>>144588893
>>144589001
/hanny/ hold the following records
- Most goals scored by a relegated team (10 - previous record was 8)
- Equal most goals conceded (12)
- Most goals in a losing side (5 - they share this record with themselves)
- Highest scoring game (11 - shared with themselves)
- Quickest goal scored (1.43 by MEAT ON THE BONE against Hanny
And it's only been two games
TOSH might hold the record for the most goals (3) in a loss
>>144591354
>- Most goals in a losing side (5 - they share this record with themselves)
>- Highest scoring game (11 - shared with themselves)
>>144591354
Holy shit I love /hanny/.Seriously though. For once, I feel bad for Rance. Not only did he get destroyed by Despair, but he also didn't get a chance to rape the idols because of that Alpaca.
>>144592531
>I feel bad for Rance
Same. Doesn't help that they have some great music and only recently knew the taste of victory. Hope they at least get a point out of the tanks.
>>144592531
>he also didn't get a chance to rape the idols because of that Alpaca.
>>144593537
Alpaca-san pls.
>>144594450
>>144592531
Rance is a manlet scrub letting his team down.
>>144589027
>150,000 - 200,000 viewers
we are not prepared for this
>>144596563
Neither is hitbox or the chat.
But if we really had 150/200k viewers the 4cc would be up in the top 5 most viewed "esport", easy.
It would also be by FAR the least accessible.
>>144598109
>Knockouts streamed from a real stadium with managers, support staff, council members, commissioners, and commentators in attendance
>Regional viewing parties
>Actual third place trophy
It's amusing to dream about at least
>>144599690
id love to see a cup streamed at a packed arena like a full-blown e-sports event
>>144600436
>>144599690
This is why we need to be buying ads. Not just on 4chan, but also irl postboards and billboards. We can all pitch in and buy a tenth of a second during the super bowl or fifa cup.;_;
>>144600750
Just for curiosity, how much does a Superbowl second cost?
>>144600750
>just a short clip of tenko or kregg screaming
yes
>>144600932
The entirety of the Rigbux Emporium, I'm guessing
>>144600932
Approximately $166,667
>>144601930
>166 bucks per second
That's quite a lot.
>>144602123
166 thousand
>>144602349
>>144591354
Just checked. TOSH shares the record for most goals in a loss with two other players including High Impact Sexual Violence from /vitagen/ in this league.
Alpaca's 5 goals against /hanny/ is an equal all time record as well.
>>144589027
But then the original audience (assuming about 1.5kish based on elite cup knockouts) would only make up 1% of the original audience. Everything would turn to shit because 99% of the audience wouldn't know jack shit about the cup and, assuming only 1% of the people watching wanted to get involved, you can bet your bottom dollar that the same effect would permeate management and other staff.
TL:DR it'd be the exact same thing that happened to 4chan as a whole, massive growth = alienation of the original userbase.
This is not a popularity contest. Any arguments of "we need to do X because it would bring in more fans" belongs in the trash. Remember when the 4cc got covered on EQD? Sure turned out well didn't it.
>>144600750
I'd be happy with just grasping a larger fraction of the 4chan userbase
We really should have some semi serious discussion with Hiro about leniency with the cup related matters. For something built entirely upon 4chan we should really have more dealings within the site.
First up we'd need to make an appeal for it. Addressing Hiro directly, very clearly, and courteously would likely yield the most favorable result
We could point out the /sp/ model for match day (single) threads as both an active working example of 4cc fitting into the 4chan ecosystem and as potential model for how other boards could handle these matters.
Probably should lay down some guidelines too, so as to have a baseline for arbitrations with the moderation and janitorial staff. Preferable these should be self imposed as each board handles things slightly different to each other and laying out hard rules is generally very restrictive. Plus we have to account for those brief periods where manager staff have to interface with the board between cups to prep for things like rosters, anthems, and goalhorns.
It probably doable be we'd have to tread carefully and not simple go "WAAAAHHH gimmie cup threads"
>>144604251
no, f4r you don't understand this at all.
We need the viewership because we need the viewership.
>>144604251
>audience would turn to shit
>management and other staff would turn to shit
>turn
>>144604251
>Remember when the 4cc got covered on EQD?
Really? That happened?
>>144604460
Think of it like this anon - we're a guest in hiro's house. We already have it pretty good, not the absolute best but pretty good. If you your proposal did succeed and we were allowed a thread on every board, who else would jump on the precedent train and either suddenly try to use 4chan boards to shill their shit, or watch as other things like 4craft try to argue their case - the precedent that allowing 4cc threads on all boards would set really is hard to control without asking for special treatment.
>>144604906
>turn
Things can always get worse anon. Always.
>>144605304
Unfortunately yes. Even /mlp/ fans didn't like it IIRC.
>>144605691
I share some of your cautiousness and not wanting to make a move that while seemingly good in the short term, ultimately dooms the cup
still, it's interesting to ponder about
>>144605691
Oh wow, look its another blame /mlp/ forwhatever
>>144605691
Don't forget the 4CC has a KnowYourMeme page as well.
And probably a subreddit.
Blender makes me want to kill myself. When will we be able to make models in AutoCAD and Solidworks?
>>144611668
Blender ships with an AutoCAD 3ds import plugin
>>144611924
Thanks, I took one look at Blender and then gave up, but I know AutoCAD like the back of my hand, looks like work might be possible after allif I can figure out how to work RigEx and all that zlib shit
>>144611668
I wonder, if you can import things from Creo or NX into Blender.
>>144612045
for using blender
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:BasedSmugleaf/benis_productions#My_Blender_Setup
useful blender shortcuts
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:Polybius#My_shitty_attempts_at_making_tutorials
>>144612178
google around, someone probably has a plugin or a workflow for getting stuff ported over
>>144612045
ah, you're going the RigEx route
if you go the BA script route (following top tutorial here >>144612381 ) you don't really need to meddled with zlib unless you're trying to do something rather advanced
zlibs not that difficult to deal with either way.
For textures, just make sure your image editor can write .dds format files and that your images have dimensions that are powers of 2 (512,1024, etc...), but they need not be square. Then delete the zlibed texture and rename your file in its place.
>>144612959
Sounds like BA's scripts are easier, I'll look more into them, and I'm fine with the image editing. Thanks for the help.
Where is your god now?
>>144615860
>beating up on a meme team
>something to be proud of
>>144615860
As an mud horse a athlete?
>>144616501
/llisfg/ also beat /wotg/, 5-0 to be exact.
ded cup
>>144605691
/mlp/ and other brony sites used to not mingle well. Something about 4chan being evil, and other places being hugboxes. These days, it's all the same, but /mlp/ still resents brony sites trying to get a hand on their memes. Kind of like /b/ versus the rest of the internet back in the day.
>>144620906
I guess other brony sites harbor some cringelords that even /mlp/ doesn't want to deal with.
It's like /a/ hating the weebs on MAL
>>144621083
It's why they call themselves horsefuckers. It's how they distance themselves from the rest of the fandom. At the same time it dissuades those who would be offended by being called a horsefucker from visiting 4chan.
>>144579992
Acceptable.
>>144579992
a shit
>>144579992
>>144579992
:DDDD
>>144622019
Dont you dare.
>>144622121AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
dumb circlejerk
>>144622121
>>144618373
Right.
I want to clear things up. Because people seem to think I am or was a good manager and /wotg/ somehow carries this decent status.
I couldn't get /wotg/ out of the group stages in our debut at VGL4. Look at QD, on his debut he managed to get /5N@F/ all the way to the final and win, or what about /hsg/'s manager, similar story. I couldn't even beat autocrat when he managed /d2g/ with a meme formation.
Fast forward to VGL5 and /wotg/ manages to 9 point a group with two auto pilots. /wotg/ managed to pes through /gsg/ and when they finally met a decent team we lost 3-0.
Now here we are, almost bottom of the group with win rate less than 50%. I'm a yellow in WoT and I'm a yellow here. I'm not a good manager and VGL6 /wotg/ isn't a great team mate.
>>144623071
You still have a chance.
/llisfg/ should beat /drg/
Just get into a shootout with /hanny/
Make it an entertaining game
>>144623071
That being said, Its not like I don't want to see /llsifg/ do well. But their fans shouldn't estimate what comes on during the knockouts.
>>144623071
You still have chance to get through.
All you need to do is beat /hanny/ with enough goals to go over /drg/ IF they lose. There is faint hope lad you just need togit gud
>>144623536
>>144623161
Thanks guys.
I dont want to progress to knockouts, feels to cheeky all I want to do now isbeat /hanny/ 6-5.
>>144623786You'd actually need a solid blowout just to be safe, instead of a close goalfest.
Godspeed.
>>144623786
>spoiler
The absolute madman
>>144623786
According to discord /hanny/ just want to go all out aggressive on saturday.
>>144625095
>implying /hanny/ have been doing anything else so far
>>144610710
www.reddit.com/r/4chancup
It's dead though. Ved's videos only sometimes get posted on r/videos.
>>144625248
They want >>144560628
that goal record
>>144579992
seems about right
Y'all losers ain't got nothing on me
>>144630369
you do not mix korean and japanese
>>144630369
>sullying best girl with worst raibu
>>144630601
You got that backwards.
>>144630658
tomato a shit
D.Va a best
>>144625318
>Ved's videos only sometimes get posted
Every time someone posts an "oh god reddit's coming" link here, they're always gawking at the winter 15 vid.
I don't get why reddit's so obsessed with that one in particular. Summer 15 had better music and those sickass animations.
>>144631415
That's the easiest one to find because it's the first one that got linked in a frontpage thread, so it's got tons of views. Most people who are from reddit presumably don't watch the cup at all so they only know that one they saw.
>>144631415
Speaking of which, what are the chances >Ved will return with a full hyp intro for Summer this year?
>>144579992
>tfw no Bocchi anime
>tfw no Bocchi singup for Moeshit yet despite sillius' claim it'd be allowed
>>144632650
loving every laugh at your shitty weeb life
here have your weekly (you) allowance, don't choke it all in one place you loser crybaby
>>144632650
Go sign your fucking team up then go on.
Even if you come last you still get a spot on the team just fucking do it.
People who just moan about shit and do nothing to fix it are the absolute worst.
>>144632650
Why do you keep posting this
Do it yourself faggot
>>144633184
Reminder that 4ccg is a no bully zone
>>144633263
>>144633246
I'm not the person who usually talks about Bocchi team, that's the point.
>>144633301
>Akari will never clean your ears
>>144633662
Holy shit do you want your team in there or not? There's 2 spots for pure moeshit up for grabs still just go do it.
>>144633765
What is this creature?
>>144633662
But you bitch and moan all the same.
If you can't be arsed to do it, you don't deserve it.
>>144633662
It's a shit invitational, stop caring.
>>144633924
some kind of flavor of the month probably
>>144623786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO8hpSspoRc
>>144634318
>twntytwo goals scored
Suzuya pls
>>144634318
The commentary really sold that.
>>144634727
fuck off boats
>>144633246
>People who just moan about shit and do nothing to fix it are the absolute worst.
You say that like people are usually given the chance to fix shit
PROTIP: They aren't
>>144635015
Except this guy could literally just make a team wiki page and sign his team up, but doesn't and instead just sits and whines about it. Don't give me that bullshit.
>>144634318
hype music at the end
>>144634017
I want to hug it
>>144635702
>>144635763
How gay is this show?
>>144635978
pretty fucking gay
>>144634318
>twntytwo goals
>>144635978
A bit, but they're not actually gay.
>page 9
>>144637292
Triggered
>>144637292
TOOT
shindouji is better
>>144638862
SUBARA
>>144638862
Wifi pls go.
can the /rsg/ manager somehow implement this masterpiece?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYV6Us2nRg
>>144641379
>masterpiece
How could everything go so wrong. Runescape had such good tracks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkR7zClEkAo
>>144641971
>see /07rsg/
I wish someone would manage them desu.
>>144641379
I could use it as a victory anthem in the next game, so it'd be like an intro to knockouts>implying /ffg/ won't luck out another winAlso, that is up to the general, not the shitposting faggots in the /4ccg/
>>144625438
Forgetting the zero point part
/llsifg/ and /hanny/ could get the all time group stage record if they score 5 and 6 respectively.
I believe in /aceg/.
>>144642290
me, too ;_;7
#BringBackRunescapebOwl
>>144642290
You mean /rs07g/I play Old School RS, can I do it?
Only just got PES though
>>144642585
Do it lad, don't let your memes be dreams.
Feel free to incorporate memers from the cc + north GE.
>>144642585
Please do it
>>144642346
/hanny/ will do it if everyone here bets on /hanny/
>>144642702
>might manage /rs07g/
>may manage /a/ if I do some testing because no-one else wants to
>only had PES a week
Good life ahead lads, may wait a bit until my friend sells me his PC and I git gud.
>PES
>FIFA
>not ISS Deluxe
Think about it. Including custom commentary mods from Ronaldinho Soccer versions
>>144643916
>may manage /a/ if I do some testing because no-one else wants to
You're behind like 5 people already mate.
>>144643916
>may manage /a/
sorry lad i think you're a little late
>>144644157
>You're behind like 5 people
>still no manager
Eh, it could happen, still started testing anyway
Also, anyone know where I save the VGL saves to in the PES folder? I've got both saves for 4CC and VGL but VGL isn't showing up in the game.
Do I have to move shit around?
>>144643916
You could try joining the /a/ council, but it seems pretty stacked lad
>>144643916
I didn't even get PES until like a day before the exports were due.
/myteam/ averages 5 goals a game in the VGL under my management
>>144644475
>big market team
>stacked
I expected as much, probably not best for a PES newfag anyway.
Any spots open at /co/?
>>144644617
>co
>>144643978
FORTE BOMBA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQnN_A7QLFs
>>144644617
>/co/
>>144644617
>/co/
Better off going to /a/ actually
>>144644461
The edit.bin on the VGL6 wiki will have both 4cc and VGL teams.
>>144644461
Put the edit.bin into the save folder.
>>144644617
Just make a new team for /aco/ then
>>144623071
>Look at QD, on his debut he managed to get /5N@F/ all the way to the final and win
Nope, you're thinking of VGL3, which was a different manager. My debut was getting /5N@F/ to the knockouts in VGL4and losing in benuldies because my power went out that day and I forgot to include a reordering of players in my pastebin
But no you have a point, I think people overestimate/underestimate a lot of managers/teams based on past performance or some specific event. People rated VGL5 /5N@F/ highly based on VGL4, but because I wanted to meme with isolated gold MFs and two 77 AMFs, it was overall a lot weaker. This time I focused so hard on making defense work in PES16 that the offense suffered terribly for it. It's just a matter of a lot of managers doing different shit, sometimes it works great so they appear to be strong at the time, then they fuck up for whatever reason and you retain the reputation you had last time.
>>144643978
>ISS Deluxe
Someone already tried that. I think it could only work as an Invitational, because ISS Deluxe only has space for 36 teams
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBQwhNalp4
Sillius where the fuck you at?
>>144645649
>only has space for 36 teams
#36Teams, then.
>>144645340
Except you've always been shit and in VGL 4 you got lucky with the group, just how your group should be 6-6-0-0 closed right now.
>>144645649
>ISS Deluxe only has space for 36 teams
We only need 32 anyway.
>>144647424
32 Biggest market teams or the 32 first from the ranking?
>>144647694
>rankings
No, I want relevant teams only, why would I want /s/ and /wsg/.
>>144647442
I've never understood what was going here
>>144647989
It will be /int/ run in autumn
>>144647831
Because /s/ and /wsg/ are relevant? Else they wouldn't be on the top ranks.
>>144647989
B^U goes to a hospital to find out his B^U wife had a B^U miscarriage.
It's a reference to IRL events involving the author and his actual wife.
>>144648591
>Because /s/ and /wsg/ are relevant? Else they wouldn't be on the top ranks.
They're about as relevant as /trash/ and should meet the same fate.
http://www.haxball.com/?roomid=~2d2110519d41a8131cf5e24c6bade7bde9a3c49c84f6a87179a7a71b78775e498&pass=1
Pass: rigged
Summer draw when?
>>144646052
'sup.
>>144650389
NEVER
E
V
E
R
>>144651386
space to shoot is better tbqhwy
>>144648591
Small markets will never be relevant.
No matter how much they win.
>>144652694
Literally scouse-tier "thinking"
>>144653275
It's true though. Deal with it.
>>144652694
They will still be better than any big market team that doesn't, and therefore more deserving to stay should a cut to 48 or 32 happen.
>>144653510
It's not though. Deal with it.
>barely 24h past since the first /vg/L day
>allready back to small market VS big market
see ya on friday
>>144654580
>VGL
>>144653728
>>144654517
Nope. No one will ever care about them aside from a small group of mercs who circlejerk them to protect their own worthless team from getting axed.
>>144654580
only entertaining vgl team has been relegated
>>144654919
Because everyone who doesn't manage one of the biggest 5 teams is a merc amirite
>>144655439
Basically.
>>144654919
"People can't visit boards that I don't visit, I don't get why they exist and have people posting on them"
How do you get up in the morning with your head shoved that far up your ass?
>>144655974
>these teams could have fans in theory
>therefore these fans actually exist
You could kill half the teams in the cup and the only people who would complain are the managers of those teams.
>>144656813
Whatever lets you watch the cup in peace, man. If you want to think "/myteam/ would be elite if only they got rid of every other team I don't like", and that lets you enjoy yourself, cool.
>>144655974
>"People can't visit boards that I don't visit, I don't get why they exist and have people posting on them"
That goes for actual boards I don't browse that other people use, like /co/ or /jp/. /t/ and /s/ are a different story altogether.
>>144657076
No it's not cool. This is supposed to be fun for 4chan users, not for your group of internet friends in a skype/IRC/discord group.
So fags, who's going to win the /vg/ League based on weekend 1
>>144657735Not /hanny/
>>144657535
You seem pretty upset, champ. Maybe a virtual divegrass meme tournament isn't the best use of your energy or free time. Start running or something, get some of the frustration out, it'll be good for you.
>>144657735
>>144657735
/ffg/ repeat
all 1-0 wins
>>144657949
Shitposting on /4ccg/ is a perfectly good use of my time, faglord.
>>144657735
/llsifg/.
They have Alpaca who's on fire.
>>144657535
We've been through this before, there is no legit way to know a team has literally no fans since cup threads are usually nuked on sight. Maybe the only exception of this would be /ic/ where people from the board legitimately asked to be removed on their thread (which I can't remember if it got deleted or not).
By your arguments the cup would only have /sp/, /vg/ and /mlp/.Don't get me wrong I know some teams are pretty much followed by just the manager, but you can't just jump and kill half the teams by such an arbitrary decision
>>144658609
What would be best would be if every board had the same rule as /mlp/, you can have a cup thread if your team is in the current cup.
>>144658609
Plenty of teams had threads on Spring
>>144659438
Hiro himself even stated that he likes the cup so I don't even know where the problem is. People who don't give a fuck or don't like it should use the goddamn thing called """filter"""" for once and stop complaining.
>>144658186
As long as you're shitposting, and don't actually have those terribly wrong opinions, then I think we're all OK with it.
>>144659745
>filters make offtopic threads fine
>>144660063
No, I seriously disagree with the "every board should have a team!!1 XD" bullshit and think we haven't gone far enough in curtailing it.
>>144645180
I've spent some time on there actually, and managed to come up with some form of possible line-up for them
1. >>>/h/ [GK]
2. Who the fuck makes this? [RB]
3. Globalized Fetish [CB]
4. Disney Princesses [CB]
5. Bubblegum [LB]
6. >broke artist [DMF]
7. Lois Griffin [CMF]
8. Drawfriends (VC) [silver] [CMF]
9. Daiper Thread [silver] [AMF]
10. Princess Peach [gold] [SS]
11. Korra (C) [gold] [CF]
SUBS:
12. >>>/b/ [GK]
13. BHM [GK]
14. Velma [CB]
15. >global rule #3 [CB]
16. Mutual Gaining [RB]
17. Mei [RB]
18. MuhSoggyKnee [LB]
19. Squishy Lewd Robots [LB]
20. Rule 63 [CMF]
21. Mrs Incredible [AMF]
22. Kim Possible [SS]
Seems relevant, but it's hard to find any popular subjects on a board with very few posts.
>>144660339
exchange >>>/b/ for >>>/d/
>>144660339
>Board redirects
>Characters
>Generic 4chan terms such as Rule 63, Drawfriends and MuhSoggyKnee
/t/ 2.0
>>144660317
>>144660339
>>>/wsr/134348
I don't think you're going to get your wish any time soon, unfortunately.
>>144660554
>I'm gonna make us one, manage it, but rules say I need to involve the board.
I wouldn't mind mercs if they weren't so fucking blatant
>>144660527
Isn't /t/ 2.0 /p/?:^)
>>144660554
>rules say I need to involve the board
Just do it and pretend the board cares.
Nobody will notice if you win games and if they do their opinion is worth jack, because you win games.
>>144660317
Reminder that it's not the "only parts of 4chan I think are worthy" Cup.
>>144642585
Let's get /v/scape general in there too for all 3 RS generals in the VGL
you should get less medals the slower your board is
>>144661334
Base-77 all players, with up to ~100 points total to spend on all other players depending on the speed of your board. Would be pretty cool desu.
>>144661334
That's probably the only way /co/ will ever be good again so maybe you should have suggested it when Boris was still commissioner
>>144661041
Reminder that it's not the "manager circlejerk" cup. Show your board cares or fuck off.
>>144661334
So /trv/ can have one gold and one silver?
I like it.
I have a feeling any attempt to rig big boards into respectability would fail simply because a lot of big board managers are fucking clowns and someone like, say, Mantis or Hessen heading a big team would instantly negate whatever advantage you give them by pure shittiness
>>144661334
>big markets still get fucked regularly despite this i.e /u/ /sp/
It would be brilliant.
>>144662298
I agree, but that's part of what makes it so fantastic. Give them enough of an advantage to make it a true weighted dice roll, but enough of an expectation to make it a disaster if they fail.
Just like real sports, when you get Man U losing to >Full Time Plumbers.
>>144661285Once I've done the Falador Massacre 10-year anniversary event :^)
NIGGA WE MADE IT
>>144662506i prefer her with the twintail look
>>144662481
>Moyes United lost 4-0 to a League One team just a couple years back
>Moyes
>>144662479
/u/ would have more than one silver removed.
>>144661581
If one person can do aesthetics, testing, proper exports and tactics, there's no need for that.
>>144662749
wait that was Van Laal
still works fine though
>>144662880
>>144662605
I asked /toy/ about which Drossel they wanted for her face in 2015. Charming won 16 to 9.
>>144663353
oh well
>>144662880
>>144662494
That Planet Hell needs to be /rs07g/'s goalhorn
>>144663874
>NationStates
>>144662880
t. Lear
To Kit Fags: I won't be home until friday so I can't play my tourney match for now.
Sorry, friend.
Bertholdt killed Armin
The absolute madman
>>144660339
That's really fucking shite and misses a lot of /aco/.
Seriously though, it's a slow-ish porn board and needs about another year or so before any kind of serious 4CC team comes up for them.>not having Widowmaker, Tracer, or Mercy as a FotM Silver
However when an actual /aco/ team does come out, it really should be a lot of fun to watch with real unique music, aesthetics, and players that are flavors you wouldn't find anywhere else.
>>144666648
neat
>>144666776
>swiss
>>144666776
So you're saying it'll happen in Autumn, they'll be shit, and we'll be calling them /t/ 3.0 by next Spring?
>>144668186
Don't be such a Negative Nancy
>>144668186
/p/ were being called /t/ 2.0 by the time they advanced from AutumnPerformance-wise, I see it happening
>>144666648
out of curiosity are you posting this because it's bert or are you posting it because you wanted to spoil people
>>144669345
Because Bert, and by extension everything he does, is 4cc-core.
>>144669501
just curious
>>144664096
>planet hell Goalhorn
You sir have fucking deserved this (you) I remember a Tzhaar Fight Pit video from 2007 with that track on it
>>144669810
I'll make a great Bert dump next month when he dies
It will be an autistic masterpiece
FUG
Guys halp I broke PES
Problem: Pic related
Shit I've tried:
>moving the files around and deleting the folders I made to keep the CPK's seperate
>deleting all the duplicate edit BINs
>deleting fucking everything and re-installing them
Shit I have installed:
>the PES data CPK files in the folder
>the plug-ins it comes with anyway
>the download folder has: Gamma CPK, the 1.04 crack, the save files
Any help? I can get more screen shots of the files in case that's the problem
>>144670373
Does that appear every time to start the game? I think it's fine if it only happens once.
>>144670821
Every time
>>144670373
It's time to resign, leak your trip.
>>144670373
Do you have the Spring Aesthetics
>>144671067
##epsilon
>>144644617
If you're serious contact their management
>>144671092
Yeah I do.
I got it working, and all I did was remove the VGL files.
Does PES not load them both if you have them both in the downloads folder?
>>144660339
Needs:
>Squiggly (Skullgirls rep)
>An overwatch rep
>XJ9 (I don't know if by "Squishy Lewd Robots" you mean her)
>Leggy Lamb
>Jessica Rabbit
>Zone-Tan (You will need to ask to /f/ give her)
>>144671342
perfect
>>144660339
>people whined at me to drop players from the /d/ roster for this
fucking hell
>>144674385
>Futa/Alternative Gold
>/d/ Humor Thread silver
>/d/ Sized Cock
>E N C Y C L O P E D I A
>BDSM General
>lots of thread names pulled from the catalog
Remove yourself
>with real unique music, aesthetics, and players that are flavors you wouldn't find anywhere else.
Their anthem will be SOAD, their aesthetics will be copied from other teams, and their players will just be generic characters and one or two fetishes that got pushed there.
/aco/ is a Xerox board, and it'll be a Xerox team.
>>144675281
>Bitching about names the board voted for
Just because your shitty manager doesn't poll you don't have to be titty twisted at ones who do.
>>144676297
So basically /d/ without aesthetic competenceexcept /d/'s GOALHORN is SOAD not their anthem :^)
>>144676297
We're not ACTUALLY getting /wsr/ and /aco/ teams, right? The former is just SFW /r/ - which also tried to meme a team in to no avail - and the latter is just a xerox of /d/.
>>144676601
>except /d/'s GOALHORN is SOAD not their anthem :^)
Exactly, it's an incompetent clone, not a competent one.
>>144638862
i cant fucking connect
>>144676640
We are, hopefully. Also /qst/
>>144676948
Fuck off.
Speaking of boards that should have teams but don't for some reason, what about about /hc/?
>>144677743
No one cared since the beginning of time. I think they actually asked to not have a team at one point.
>>144677743
They don't want a team.
What's the easiest way to kill myself /4ccg/
>>144677743
Do people even use /hc/?
What's the fucking point if /gif/ exists
>>144677743
STOP.TRIGGERING.THE.GROWN.UP.WHO.ACT.LIKE.14 YEAR OLDS
>>144677743
They don't care about the cup.
>>144676640
Honestly I don't think /wsr/ are really going to get anything going, ObamaCare seems slightly more competent than >Kudjah at the least, Kitfag is babbying them a bit, and Lear isn't resistant to adopting new teams but even /p/ had more interest (and memeing here, thanks le ken rockwell poster) and less danger of going down JUST road managerially/rosterwiseand speaking of JUST rosterwise, hi /a/ how's the goalkeeping academy doing? :^). Don't know how any talks Lear's had with him have went though
/aco/ has actual potential interest but it's pretty much just a /co/ proxy (not that fear of becoming le ebin proxy ever stopped tr4p from starting /e/ and giving it to HT or [s4s] from getting a team). iirc it was dumped a while back due to lack of interest though. Fuck if I know nigga
>>144677743
In an ideal world, porn dump boards without communities wouldn't have teams. If you only ever go to a board to fulfill a very specific need, and not to take part in a community, it doesn't make sense to have cup representation. It's one of the reasons /t/ is a dumb team. I honestly like bandwagoning /s/ because dadrock and Stacy's Mom but there's really no good argument for them having a team.
>>144678904
Not only that, there's arguably no "they" anyway. Who not only goes to /hc/ as their "primary" board, but also feels like they're part of the /hc/ community?
>>144679634
>lack of interest
It was that there's enough right now on /aco/ for a strong Starting XI, but the Bench would be of questionable quality and even the medals of the XI players might not properly reflect what's popular on /aco/.
Needs more time. Making a team for it now would ruin any 'fun' potential.
>>144681326
eh, I get thatnot that Slightly Less Laughably Bad At Divegrass Maybe Possibly But Also Even Shittier As A Board /co/ has much fun potential anyway :^)
>>144681326
Well, /aco/and /wsr/still have a plenty of time to make a team until fetus.I kinda want to see a friendly between them like it was made with /his/ and /seinfeld/ before winter
>>144681778
>make a team until fetus
Trust me, /aco/ shouldn't be touched until Spring '17 at the earliest. There's just not enough there right now unless you just want a list of fetishes/characters /aco/ likes.
>>144681656
Funny thing, /aco/ isn't at all like any other porn boards I've seen. Rather, it's a real community of porn artists and "aficionados" that come together for the sake of dank r34.
of course, there's always plenty of QUALITY WESTERN PORN on /aco/
Let's try this. An unofficial ranking of why a board "Deserves" to have a 4cc team:
God-Tier: Unique 4chan culture, consistent attendance/interest, top-tier memes
EXAMPLES: /sp/, /mlp/, /a/, /pol/.
Great-Tier: Good Attendance, Good Interest, reasonable board-culture/"normie" culture
EXAMPLES: /int/, /tv/, /v/
Good-Tier: Good Culture, Good memes, questionable interest. "Must-haves" for the cup, but questionable on how much they add to the cup's culture
EXAMPLES: /b/, /x/, /k/
Meh-Tier: Interest boards, mid-market, dedicated fans but not as much of a cross-board fanbase.
EXAMPLES: /an/, /ck/, /trv/
Meh(Minus)-Tier: Interest boards with less 4cc Culture, some fans but less visibility to dedicated fans
EXAMPLES: /diy/, /biz/, /f/
Poor-Tier: 4cc-Core teams, teams with little interest from board fanbase and more from the cup itself
EXAMPLES: /p/, /wsg/, /wg/
Bottom-Tier: Dump Boards, Porn, Porn, Porn
EXAMPLES: /s/, /gif/, /seinfeld/,/mlp/ :^)
>>144681968
>Rather, it's a real community of porn artists and "aficionados" that come together for the sake of dank r34.
This is what every porn board says and it's never true.
>>144682605
/aco/ has drawfags. /s/, /gif/, /hm/, and, /o/ don't have Drawfags.
>>144682250
>/diy/, /biz/ and /f/ in the same category
wut
>>144682250
nah mate that's bare effort
also nice job ranking /trv/ and /diy/ that high and /f/ and /biz/ that low
>>144682250
>/trv/ and /diy/ anywhere above Poor
Into the fucking trash
>>144683103
>>144683180
You're welcome to make your own suggestions. It was more about the categories than the examples, I couldn't give a shit about any team Meh-Tier and below here.
>>144563621
ddg was losing badly before fatigue was going to make a difference anyways.
If /d/ and /aco/ are so similar, why don't they just join forces and form /daco/ United?
>>144683670
Because /d/ hates /aco/
>>144683670
/aco/ is fucking plague that needs to be eradicated
/d/ hates them, and it's not only /d/ that they're a problem to
you are loved
>>144684705
Thanks anon. I don't get your weird anime grills, but you're loved too.
>>144682250
>/trv/ is mid-market
lmao you fucking what
/trv/ is literally Mauled and 4 other fans max
you areart
you areLOVED
>>144684951
See >>144683402
Again, I'd love to hear what you've got to say here.
>>144685273
Putting a team that has maintained the same everything for fucking forever and whose only relevant feats ever have been fucking /a/ over (which has earned them /sp/ bandwagoners but that's about it) anywhere above Poor tier deserves a trashing
>>144684968
>Art
Hat pick:/p/ :^)
>>144685273
The rest of it seems okay at least to my knowledge from the boards I browse/care about/visited. The categories themselves are fine, except the deciding between great and good is a bit iffy. Great's good attendance - good interest are basically synonyms, and I don't see much difference between reasonable and good culture. Feels more like good tier has it better than great. Where would /mu/ be? I'd assume great tier, since there is interest, there is defined culture and mems. /co/ as well.
I guess most good tier teams could be argued to be in great instead, like /b/, while /x/ could very well be in meh. The lines between them are too blurry.
>>144685706
/trv/ has always had /sp/ bandwagoners because Mauled is a known tripfag on /sp/.
>>144686676
Lol if you don't think /sp/ fucking hates Mauled. If anything, they'd have bandwagoners AGAINST him and his brand of Hull City Bullshit.
I won't even pretend I randomized this one.
Have another test draw where everything fucking hates you.
>>144660339
>I want to join /a/
>Actually I want to join /co/
>Actually I want to make an /aco/ tean
Do you even have PES yet?
>>144687361
>Group E
epic, simply epic
ban assault memes
>>144687361
>Not having /u/ and /v/ in the same group
>>144687361
>/fit/ /v/e/d/
>>144687557
I need assault clips
I gotta use military grade firearms to protect myself from stray cats in my comfy suburban neighbourhood
real euronigga hours who da fuck up smash that mothafucking you button
maf?
>>144690825
No, fuck off.
/biz/ 3'
/out/ 18' 39' 45+0' 54'
/biz/ 55' 77' 85' 86'
/out/ 88'
FT 5-5
Allow me to die please
>>144691972
JUST
>>144691972
>3'
>54'. 55'
>85', 86', 88'
1.04 reduces kekoff abuse, guys.
>10 goals
1.04 makes GKs actually show up, guys.
>>144692274
I was playing a 3-4-3 with Gold CF/AMF and Silver SS's though. I sort of deserved it.
I don't even care about kekoff abuse, I care about meme-entum, which.. I think might have still been a thing in this one.
I've changed my mind, 1.04 is best build, all day every day.
No really though it's less consistent test vs. test, so I'm not sure what to think yet. Give it a couple of weeks and I'll have an opinion that nobody will care about.
>testing against out
When will people stop falling for this meme?
>>144694335
As soon as /out/ gets fetused in autumn
>>144694335
They're a Pot 1 team that will almost definitely use the exact same formation they submitted for Winter. And they're at least consistent, better than testing against /fit/ or /gd/ with their meme sliders.
Why not test against them in addition to testing against a few other teams? If he's ONLY testing against /out/, it's a problem.
Since I'm here
>Page 9
>>144685734
/fit/ /biz/ it's free
/mu/ /ck/ it's also free
/m/ /gd/
/tv/ /w/
/asp/ /e/
/vp/ /an/ #believe
/f/ /vr/
/uv/
>>144696626
>/vp/ won't choke it to /mlp again
>>144696982
Nah it'll be 6600 /an/ /lit/
>>144696626
>/biz/
>free
>>144696626
IT'S FREE REAL ESTATE
>>144699541
>/d/
>elite cup /soc/implying slimmy will stop socialspartan's terrible livemanaging
>>144699973
ok but
>/biz/
>>144700112
best of the worst innit
it really is 9-3-3-3: the group
How do I know if I have a fapping addiction?
>>144701170
>/soc/ getting 3 points in that group unless it's off /biz/
>/biz/ getting 3 points in that group unless it's off /soc/
Cmon son, that's a 9-6-1-1 if I ever saw one.
>Page 10
Know what Neptune does when she feels sleepy? She takes a nep.
>>144708051
Got a chortle out of me/10
Here's your >(nep)spend it well.
>>144708051
where do you find neps?
in the garbage where they belong
>>144701187
Do you ever decide you want to do it, or just get the urge to do it, and then change your mind and not do it?
>>144708051
solid nep-jokedare I say, solid enough for the rare unspoilered nep
>PAGE 10 PANIC!
how much semen will be slurped this weekend in the VGL?
>>144717578
/ffg/ will win 1-0 again
>BM
>lycan
>invoker's forge
MEMEPUSH is real
>>144719370
Their match against /hanny/ was 3-2
I want to see /hanny/ v more group a teams
>>144722924
that's because hanny is vgl core
>>144722924
/hanny/ has scored more goals than all of Group A combined at this point, yet they get relegated.
It's fucking sad.
>>144725723
>>144725723
They've also conceded the equal most goals than any team in vgl history and they still have a game to play
It's unlikely but they could still end up relegated with 13+ goals and a positive goal difference
>>144725723
>>144725875
TWNTYTWO goals in two matches
>>144726160
Toki thread
Toki cup
KONG STRONG
>>144726757
What is Kong anyway? Just a vidya clan?
>>144725537
>vgl core
The fuck is this
>>144727167
It's a way of life.
>>144729232
how easy is MWO to get into?
I totally get the opposition to /wsr/ getting a team or me managing however, but I'm fairly decent at managing, I've got a few core supporters, and I have two supporters outside the thread that know PES fairly well. And I'm not doing this because I want a team, I'm doing this because I know I could get a team to gold.
>>144730930
Everybody here gets pissy at new teams, just ignore it.
>>144730930
Don't worry, we need more teams anyway.
>>144730930
It will be ok if your team is exciting or has a fun roster. Although if you kill any big market team thats a one-way ticket to the shitlist no matter what.
The opnions of /4ccg/ are completely irrelevant anyway as long as your own board cares. If your board doesn't care then its probably best to pack it up.
>>144730930
I believe in you, Obama
>>144730469
You initially get a boosted income to help you acquire your first non-trial mech, but after that it gets kind of sluggish.
The basic combat mechanics aren't too hard to understand, but as far as building your first mech goes I'd recommend heading over to /gerg/ and asking about decent builds for a chassis that caught your interest.
>>144730930
How do you know you're good if you've never managed before?
Also /r/ tried to get a team ages ago and still failed. Wanna know why? Because it's fucking /r/, they had nothing to offer as a team and neither does yours. You'll just flule your way into the elites before getting fetus'd and becoming a forgettable mediocrity just like /t/ and likely /p/. Just fucking stop. Knowing you can get far in a cup is NO reason to create a team, just go help your actual main board.
>>144730930
Thanks Obama.
>page 9
Hat pick:/mu/
>>144739147
>Group A
rip /vp/
>Group B
>>144739147
>Group E
>/d/ubya /w/ /e/
>>144739753
>group /e/w/, /mu/d/
>>144740620
>>144739753
>group /mu/d/ /w/e/ebs
>>144739147
>Group G
N I C E
>>144739147
Enough of this. Someone post their ideal groups.
>>144739147
>Group F
replace /o/ with /pol/ and it'd be the same group from summer 2014that really should have been fun, but good god, 1.12 ruined everything
Let's talk about 4CC boys.
Imagine there's a 4CC sleepover, but there aren't enough beds for everyone. Which 4cc boy would you want to share a bed with?
>>144730930
You've said nothing about the board's interest, roster, memes, anything. You literally just posted here to say "I'm really good, I should have a team, me me me"
Fuck off merc cancer.
>>144745951
get this gay shit off my board
>>144746686
it's not gay, silly.
>>144747082
You need to add 'no homo' you sperg.
>>144745951
SDA.
>>144748141
not ifyou're a gril
Aestheticspeople, I have a bunch of raw models for /mymemeteam/, but I'm completely inept so I don't know how to delete everything but their heads and then convert them properly into a format PES will accept. Can anybody do it for me or is it a long tedious process?
>>144730930
>another fucking merc
Kill me please
>>144748549
Welcome to the 4ChanMercCup, where the tournaments are full of non-boards/dead boards managed by faggots stroking their ego.
>>144748404
Learn how to do it yourself, there's shit on the wiki (especially Smugleaf's user page) on how to do it.
Blender isn't hard. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
/trv/ are going to have some changes for Summer. New players, new faces, maybe even a new kit If the mood strikes.
We also have agreed to a new shirt sponsor for the rest of the 2016 season, after contact with Singaporean carrier Tiger Airways, in what should be a fruitful and profitable arrangement.
>>144750376
at this point i'd have expected you to stick bloody flamingo land on there
not like they'd be any complaints either
>>144748209
>>144745951
>>144750931
I'm no fag but this is fucking cute.
>>144746516
>You've said nothing about the board's interest, roster, memes, anything.
Because the other boards have no right to judge a team's involvement. The manager made his own thread on /wsr/ with roster and stuff, without trying to meme on /4ccg/ so why don't you suck it up and stop pretending you own the place?
>>144751525
it's ok No.6 isn't gay anyway
I just want to circleshlick with other girls about 4cc boys but there's only gays here.
>>144752125
>Girls
>In the 4CC
I came here to laugh at you.
>>144752274
>page 9 anime anon
>new girl
>Manticore
>RoronaBest
>Obasu
>amis
>>144752531
>memes
>>144752531
page 9 anime anon is like 10 different people at least.
and none of them is a girl
>>144732102
*sick bassline*
>>144748794
Do you have a generic not-even-PES specific guide on how to
- delete everything that isn't the face
- texture these stupid xps.xps\Generic_Item.mesh models
- merge UV maps and stuff?
>>144752531
I've been replaced by like 5 different people now.
>>144753010
How about you chech out this 5
>>144752820
How to delete:
Switch to edit mode with tab
Right click is select. By default you're in vertex selection mode. Hit A to deselect all, or reselect all. Shift+Right Click adds to selection.
With C; you enter circle selection mode. Left click in it and drag to add things you touch to selection.
Hit Z to show a wireframe so you can select things on the other side easily
When done selecting, hit x, and choose to delete vertices.
There's also box selection mode (with b), which can come in handy too.
Ctrl+Alt+Q for quad view can be handy as well.
>>144753010
Ringo!
>>144753010
you were never the only one
>>144753010
Don't worry, you're still the one and only for me.
>>144752820
Texture maps:
Not sure how you want to merge them, but be aware that textures usually need to be square and a power of two (256x256, 512x512, 1024x1024, etc.)
Search tutorials on UV unwrapping in Blender. There's several approaches to it. If the models already have a UV map, it's probably best to keep it that way so you don't have to muck about too much with the textures.
>>144753010
>>144753348
She was always the only one for me!
>>144752820
In addition to what the other anon just wrote, take a look at these two
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:BasedSmugleaf/benis_productions#Tutorial_for_importing_models_into_PES
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:Polybius#My_shitty_attempts_at_making_tutorials
(the second one mainly for useful keyboard shortcuts)
Also a couple tips:
>texture these stupid xps.xps\Generic_Item.mesh models
>merge UV maps
Export the model in obj format first, and reopen it from that file.
Copy paste all the teture files to a single dds file using paint.net, then from blender select one element at a time, enter edit mode, press alt-o while the mouse cursor is on the texture window, and open the file you made, then move the uv map on the texture file to place it properly. Repeat this for every element.
>>144750931
If it were happening now, we'd be kicked out for not shutting up about why Federici is a fucking dickhead.
>>144753971
>conceding from a shot outside your own half
Will Australians ever learn?
>>144753153
>>144753612
>>144753830
Alright, thanks for the tips, I'll try to get at least somewhat decent at this.
>>144754231
I have a Federici effigy burning in my backyard.
>page 9 again
>>144757040
Nice yaoi hands you got there
>>144752531
hi carma
>>144757856
If it were carma, he would put Keksandra in somehow.
>>144757856
carma died, he had to go serve in the army to pay his student loans
>>144751529
Lol if you don't think this guy's trying to make a "me me me" team. His "roster stuff" was 3 players he thought of from reading page 0 of /wsr/, and asking everyone else to do everything for him. He even straight up said "I guess I've got to ask you guys or they won't let me have a team".
>>144750376
If you don't bring back I Vow To Thee, My Country, don't bother submitting an export
>>144759823
Lear was going to do it for him anyway.
>>144758921
>asking everyone else to do everything for him
Yes, that is literally how almost every team's first roster was made.
>>144753971
At least the cuddles will help ease the pain.
TFW No more 06 Golden Generation ;_;
>>144758921
>and asking everyone else to do everything for him
>Guy making a team asks the board he represents for their opinion is somehow wrong.
Trip on, SISF.
>>144685734
>>144759823https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRHmVi_L514
>>144761457
As long as I'm the one spooning you since I spoon my own pillow
>>144762410
That'd be fine if he wasn't just asking them because Lear told him he had to.
The guy just thinks he'd be a real great manager - what, he needs to actually have board support to do that?
>>144763467
This.
It's so obvious this asshole is in it for personal glory it's almost kinda sad. But hey, it's alright, he has two people who are also in it for the glory and a couple others telling him to do whatever, so Lear will give him a team.
>>144754231
meanwhile the real Australian team is beating up on the Saffers and you're crying about a bunch of plebs
>/sp/
>>144753348
stop posting shit idols
Sillius where the fuck you at?
>>144766093I hope you get stabbed
>>144766093
wow how about i nico nico knee you in the head
>>144766314
>>144766457
never reproduce
>>144766093
>shit idols
but he didn't post bird
>>144766508
Jokes on you,I don't exist
>>144766314
That's a bit mean, Anon.
>>144766508
>he doesn't like idols
Nico nico niii~
>>144766093
>tfw dislike Nico
>tfw like NicoMaki
wat do
Since things are heating up I would just like to remind everyone that we're all friends here.
>>144766879
Read Nico anal doujins.
I've found that the more you dislike a girl, or if she's a haughty, arrogant cunt, those feel a lot more awesome.
>>144766879
I know that feel.
I want weebs to go.
>>144767304
okay, bye.
I want weebs to stay.
>>144767410
You guys seriously are more annoying than horsefuckers.
I want weebs to do a 360
>>144767560
Complaining about anime on 4chan etc.
I want weebs
>>144766271
Yes hello it's me, sillybus
I need weebs
>>144767778
>2016+69-68-2+1
>still believes in muh weeb safe zone
>>144768157
If you're just here for ebin memes and stale banter, there's hundreds of Facebook pages for failed normalfags like you.
>>144768157
>safe zone
you're the guests here, not us.
>>144768096
purge the moeshit page would you its got a bunch of nonteams still on there
>>144768096
To add to >>144768761 get your /yys/ page running I need to judge your tastes.
The weather's perfect, and I finished some afternoon classes to get 6 extra hours at home today. I need one last thing to achieve maximum comfy. Help me out here lads.
best idol coming through
>>144768952
>/yys/
>taste
pick one
>>144769057
Watch Flying Witch.
>>144768473
There's also tons of skype and IRC groups for degenerate fetish talks, I don't see your point.
>>144768743
It's more like you are the native americans and we're the european conquerors.You do know how that ended, right?Didn't expect you to graduate from Grade 2
>>144769057
Drive a truck across Europe.
>>144769057
This >>144769152 is a pretty solid rec desu senpai.
>>144769207
>You do know how that ended, right?
They started bending over backwards for Niggers and Mexicans once the Natives were gone? :^)
>>144768761
Will do
>>144768952
/yys/ team will be a bit late for ~reasons~
>>144769624
why is the captain of moeshit not moetron?
you've got an vintage meme opportunity there
>>144769426
I'd take 500 years of freedom over bending from the get go anyday.Real question: Who're the niggers and mexicans in this equation
>>144769834
leddit and tumblr
>>144769057
Comfy channels
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCckETVOT59aYw80B36aP9vw
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpprBWvibvmOlI8yJOEAAjA
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbTDXDBHApa_cvcOx86yJOA
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3_VCOJMaivgcGqPCTePLBA
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL3JXZSzSm8AlZyD3nQdBA
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbdyjrrJAjDIACjCsjAGFAA
Comfy anime
>Non Non Biyori
>Flying Witch
>Yama no Susume
Comfy manga
>New Game
>Stretch
>Furumapura
Comfy games
>Terraria
>Cities: Skylines
>Factorio
>Stardew Valley
>Space Chem
Comfy movies:
>BBC Earth documentaries
>>144769834
Reddit/Tumblr and actual normalfags.
Once the weebs and other weirdos are gone or small in numbers, they'll flock to the site.
Just look at /b/, it's 99% Reddit and underaged normalfags now.
>>144770092
>Yama no Susume
boring is not comfy
>>144770551
>short episodes of mountaineering lolis
>boring
Hi there /a/, yes we noticed you.
>>144769107
I trust Sillius to choose wisely.
>>144770716
But /a/ liked mountain lolis. I think you're thinking of /v/.
>>144770716
/a/ loves yama no susume are you high?
>>144770716
/a/ liked the show though.
>>144771254
>>144771278
>>144771314
fine Jesus stop the (You) bombardment
>>144767304
this there memes suck, that mami head thing is a total feel bomb.
toki dead
who /usagi/ here
>>144771757
she lives on in our hearts
>>144771920
ayyy
>look up the nep game to see what it's actually all about
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi9zCnraz7o
Holy shit what is this garbage, you guys worry me
>>144773430
that's actually a spin off
the real game is still terrible gameplay-wise but the dialogue and characters make it comfy fun
Anyone who wants to make a HOI4CC mod? At least the game would be less garbage.
>page 9
>tfw weeb
>tfw I think the Nep games are boring pandering garbage
>>144776941
Are you me?
>>144776941
They are, but they're endearing boring pandering garbage.SeHa is pandering done right though desu
>>144775348
that would make the game more garbage
>>144778073
At least you'd go all the way with it instead of stopping halfway.
>>144775348
>>144778073
I'm enjoying the game desu lads
Anyway, customisation like that works better in 4Xs like___EU4___
>>144778416
>>144778546
why don't paradox just do remakes of HoI2 with better graphics? HoI3 and HoI4 are fucking trash.
>>144779362
Because then they wouldn't be able to sell $10 DLCs containing stuff that was in the core game previously.
>page 9
>>144745951
My comanager
>>144745951
Fuck sleep, I'm just gonna stay on my laptop.
>>144784052
You could bring your laptop in bed and we can sit together, anon.
>>144781438
One of my favorite sluts, 2cute.
Hat pick:/lit/
>>144785757
>Group B
>>144785757
>group B
>>144785757
>group H
>/d/o/ /sp/out/
>>144687383
>I want to join /a/
This is the one you wanna focus on m80
>Actually I want to join /co/
You took this seriously?...............okay
>Actually I want to make an /aco/ tean
Just a thought, the board doesn't really move fast enough for a team yet imo.
>Do you even have PES yet?
Yep
>>144786874
You might as well throw your name into the /a/ hat.Soon they'll have enough people for a De Cision
>>144786874
now's probably not the best time to join /a/ when they're still sorting out management
try closer to autumn when they actually need testers or other help
>>144786874
So do you want to join /co/ or not?
>>144786874
>/a/ could have seven glorified testers and no real head soon
wew
>>144787695
>Implying they'll announce anything until before autumn at the earliest.
They don't have an elite cup to play in why would they bother doing anything this soon.
>>144787854
They have a slim chance of getting into Summer due to DQs
>>144739147
Group of deAth
>back to /a/'s arms for you /sp/edos
Group B
>/mlp/ in babbies
Group E
>/mu//d/
>/w//e/
Group H looks shit, cakewalk forSmuglel
>>144787994
>Implying I won't merc /g/.
I need my e-fame.
>>144787695
But /a/ hate councils and used /m/ as an example of them being a bad idea?
>>144788093
Lots of testers =! council
>>144739147
oh boy oh boy memepick time here we go
/fit//vp/
/uv/
/m/ /ck/
/f/ /vr/
/mu/ /e/the house is free
/asp/ [s4s]the house is free
/out/ /pol/it's a free fucking house
/gd/ /lit/it's free real estate
Why is /4ccg/ afraid of girls?
blender isfun
>>144788858
/4ccg/ isn't afraid of girls, they're welcomed with open arms here
>>144789012
Now all is left is the custom gloves
Do /g/ or /w/ have a manager yet?
>>144789209
No
Unless you actually go to either of those boards regularly, fuck off and don't try to manage them
So I'm trying to figure out which combination of groups has the best likelihood of a.) removing as many small-to-no-market teams as possible, b.) relegating teams /4ccg/ hates, and c.) creating hyp matchups. I don't think it's going too well, see group B.
/4ccg/ you mind helping me rearrange this?
me calling Myuer
>>144789097
>Rorona ran off from all the bullying
>EA cucked into becoming an Outlel
>Manticore is basically a female wookie
>Page 9 Girl is really just Gerb
did i miss anyone?
>>144789012
She needs her fuckhuge arms.
Didn't know BRS was /toy/. Thought it was /a/, or maybe even /u/
>>144789497
>>Page 9 Girl is really just Gerb
Wrong.
>>144789497
I didn't say girls weren't afraid of /4ccg/. They should be, though.
>>144789437
Tell him to fix the /yryr/ team. It's a disaster right now.
>>144790000
me telling Myuer to fix the /yryr/ team
>>144789618
Strength is the embodiment of the ham hands meme because, ya know, giant fucking hands.
The BRS figmas and nendos are pretty popular on /toy/ though.
>>144789384
>muh ABsmallmarket
get out
>>144789012
>Is an edited miku model
Fuck
>>144789497
>EA cucked into becoming an Outlel
wait what
how did she end up in that hellhole?
>>144790000
Nice quads.
Btw, I'm up for any suggestion to fix the team.
>>144790093
Cute.
>>144790586
>hellhole
Have you ever thought that maybe people are not that bad as they come off to be?
LGTSS
>your team
>how well you want it to do
>how well you are ok with it doing
>how well you think it will do
>>144791106
/m/
Staying in elite
Staying in elite
Back to the babbies
>>144791106
/sp/
3 stars
Ro16
Ro16
>>144791106
/u/
Win
Stay in the elites
Crumble all the way to fetus
>>144791106
/out/
Just about anything but getting last place again
Couldn't be happier
Since Jack got gud they'll do pretty well I think
>>144791785
>Since Jack got gud they'll do pretty well I think
kek
>>144791106
/vp/
Not get relegated
Not get relegated
Relegated
>>144791106
/c/
Make it to elites
I'd even be happy with yo-yoing
At least get out of the fetusI hope
>>144791106
/vp/
Quarterfinals
Not get relegated
Relegated on the last day and everyone calls /vp/ a shit no fans team
>>144791106
>/f/
>Win the Cup
>Barely escape the group stage again
>Barely escape the group stage again but Sou tragically dies of a heart attack during the match
>>144791785
LIFELONG /OUT/ SENPAI
>>144791106
/r9k/
16th
we did way more than anybody expected in spring, anything else is gravy
A B O R T E D
Wew that draw.
>>144790850
>no Chinatsu
>starting 11 are for the most part meta references
>music choice is an atrocity
What can you do to fix that
>add Chinatsu in any of her memes: her being Mirakurun, a bitch or an artist.
>make Namori a GK
>make the Amusement Club girls medals
>all these girls have their own chara songs which would perfectly serve as custom goalhorns
>>144794157
I see flaws in the predicted final rankings; 17-32 should have the 16 relegated teams; 1-16 are the teams in the KO's. For example, neither of the group A teams have a ranking higher than 17!
>>144791597
>/sp/
>3 stars
Fuck off, Dragonfag
>>144794875
Sorry, I meant 3 stars*
>>144794797
I did the ranking with a random list generator. So this is the result I got. But honestly we all know that the summer cup will be completely different :^)
>>144789384
Which teams /4ccg/ hates?
/mlp/, /soc/, /p/, /s/ and /wsg/ are given ones
>>144797373
/t/
Hey /4ccg/, pick your state and shitpost.
>>144797870
>Zodiak Killer
>Zodiak
>ZODIAK
>>144795507
>Shizune
>>144798076
>He fell for it
Can BROTHER NERO be added to the /asp/ roster please. It's our hit new meme
>>144799151
Maybe
Go wake Groudon from his sleep first
>page 9
>page 9
>/irc/
>/corn/ general
>>144791106
/ck/
Semifinals
Round of 16
Round of 16
>>144797870
I don't think I've ever heard anyone talk about the X Files.
>>144799151
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOUUUUUUUUUUU?!
>>144789497
im not THE Page 9 Anime Poster but ive done my fair share of page 9 anime posts
>>144797373
/co/
>>144799151
Anon, are you gonna slap a tornado?
>page 9
>>144805080
bee is better
>>144805158
>page 9
>>144806710
Those eggs are so cute
I
Reminder to only make one thread.
Make it acuteone.
>>144807493
>>144807493
>>144807493
1 post early but fuck it that doesn't matter spics are getting destroyed as I post this
Last for whatever you guys want the last post to be about :^)
benis