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Previous Thread: >>144551215

>Main Page:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Main_Page

>Stuff you should read but are probably too gay to read:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/FAQ
https://pastebin.com/UvruiPky

>Where can I watch the cup?
Literally on the wiki front page. Or Hitbox's.

>Videos:
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Videos

>Archived games:
http://archive.klaxa.eu/

>Next Cup:
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/2016_4chan_Summer_Cup

>/vg/ League 6 (currently ongoing):
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6

>Moeshit Cup (coming soon)
>http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Moeshit_Cup

>/ag/ League (coming soon):
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League

>Previously:
Shitposting
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_____________________________________________________________nepu_____________________
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>>144807493
First beer
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>>144807751
no thank you
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U S A
S
A
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Hat pick: /m/
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Hat Pick: /USA/
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>>144809271
>Group F
oh boy nice 3 team group btw also memepicks

/fit/ /tv/ rip /e/ even with managerless /w/
/asp/ /an/ told you it was memepicks
[s4s] /biz/ yes /biz/ fuck you
/out/ /lit/ FREE REAL ESTATE
/mu/ /v/ rip /vp/
/u/ /m/ /mlp/ get consolation points off >/p/, 7-7-3-0
/f/ /s/
/vr/ /ck/
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I
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YOU
ASS
AYY
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>>144809271
Link to thingy?
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>>144811304
http://implyingrigged.info/ts/groupstandings/groupEdit.html?
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>>144812252
>/a/
It will never be broken, right? ;-;7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VFIyxFpstQ
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>>144813427
It's already been broken. Gluing it back together doesn't make it unbroken.
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>>144813780
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>>144813780
Where's that image with the japanese practice of using gold to glue broken stuff back together?

Either way, just because it's broken doesn't mean it won't still be beautiful when they are back together.
Beautiful, and quite funny for the actually good teams.
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MURRICA
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Oh shit
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>>144820230
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>page 9
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>>144822592
Is that it? Where's the rest?
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>>144823332
The rest is covered in the full episode.
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It all transcends into eternity. This is the time of resurrection, the time of sleep. We will descend with a burning haze.
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>>144827320
lol
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Next post that ends in a 7 decides what meme formation I test next
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>>144830481

1-8-1
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>>144830481
4-2-4
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>>144830607
wew
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>>144830713
Make a better McBox.
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>>144814176
You are referring to the beautiful art of kintsugi
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>>144830823
You cannot improve the McBox.
It is perfect.
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>>144822592
>that clip
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>>144822592
sauce?
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>>144822592
cute tummy
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>>144833364
Yuuki Yuuna wa Yuusha de Aru
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>>144837929
turn that 9 upside down, now it's a 6
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>>144822592
She failed, much like the other dozen plus times she tried to kill herself.
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>Hiro creates rules discussion sticky on /v/
>Gets drown in shitposting
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>>144841335

As expected of /v/
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>>144841335
horyy shet that tab was loading replies for two minutes
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>>144841729
Only people without toasters get to make the rules on /v/ apparently
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when will the pain end
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>>144845019
Whenever you want it to
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>>144845670

fuck anime, i just want to go to the dimension where /int/ isn't shit
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>>144845763
sign up to team /int/ and take over from >hessen then
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>>144845763
It's one of those rare cases where the quality of the team is directly proportional to the quality of the board.
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>>144846737

i doubt i'd do much better, i barely know how soccer works.

>>144846863

rude but true
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>>144845763
>>144846976
Just contact one of the managers and ask to help them test then, another computer won't hurt
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>>144847063

I might give it another go, gotta figure out how to install PES first.
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>>144847134
It's all on the wiki under PES 2016 / Installation, and if you need any more help just ask in the thread
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>>144847208

alrighty, i'll think about stepping up to help manage too.
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>>144846976
the less you know about soccer the better
see: >art
but seriously though, by the time autumn rolls around you'll be good enough with PES to help out a lot. Reminder that /p/ manager had a few months experience and got the team to elites in one shot and /his/ wasn't too bad either. All the guys in the /a/ tester/manager power struggle or whatever are PES noobs who signed up in Spring. You'll be fine.
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>>144847274
>Reminder that /p/ manager had a few months experience
Where did you pick that up? I installed PES just before the fetus and haven't run a test yet.
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>>144847746
>/b/
>/x/
KEK
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>>144847746
well i kinda meant the time from the team being made to the cup which i guess isn't even a few months its like one month but still that proves my point even more
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>>144847746
sure thing Matt
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>>144847746
Sure thing DF
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>>144848096
haha I was first, get rekt.
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>>144848170
How bout I go and rek ur ass
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>page 9
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Who are your top 3 favorite vgl teams?
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>>144851379
/myteam/
/notyourteam/
/alsonotyourteam/
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>>144851379
/ffg/, /fn@f/, /rsg/
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Hat pick: /mlp/ :^(
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>>144851379
/rlg/
/dfg/
/dng/
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Guys,
how about an /int/bowl with all the countrythreads there?

Good and fun idea y/n?
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>>144851910
Will /luso/ be banned?
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I know everyon here loves /vg/ and has a real stake in the team.

Isn't it time only teams that made the knockouts got automatic representation in the team?

Other seven spots can go to the biggest meme players
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>>144851805
>/dfg/
Oh yeah, the autistic thread who throws axes at you as soon as you mention the cup? Wew.
Fucking assholes.
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>>144851910
/balt/ + /ausnz/ beating /brit/ is my wet dream
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>>144852130
63* could win the Ashes series he never won in life.
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>>144851910
There was a thread about after the end of the Spring Group Stage - there wasn't really much decided, but I was thinking about asking about it in the board poll when we get round to doing that.

Some people wanted to do it through Haxball, but I don't know much about that. My thoughts on it are that it'd be fun, and that the winner would get a place on the /int/ 4CC team. If we do it through PES, the onus would be on the generals to get meme teams set up themselves as neither me nor Hessen spend much time at all in the generals, and so don't know much about their memes, which are almost an entirely different place to the rest of the board.

Basically, if you browse a general, get a meme team set up on the wiki so people know this might go somewhere. It's going to take more than me to get this started, and I don't want to push it too hard and piss off the generals.

>>144851967
Of course not, we need teams to hate if this is ever done.

>>144852130
Anyone beating /brit/ would be pretty nice desu.
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>>144852689
Shotgun /nederdraad/
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>>144851910
Kill yourself, mate
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>>144851910
just oversaturate my shit up
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Reminder that signups for the Moeshit Cup are still open.
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>>144851379
I only watch /hanny/
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When's the draw for the /ag/ League happening?
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>>144855050
you've got 10 teams already though
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>>144852689
For what it's worth, I could get involved with /balk/ if it were on PES and I got extremely bored, but I don't know if I would actually spare the autism for it.
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>>144856401
roma go home
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>>144856689
But I have nothing to steal from your home.
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>>144852689
>this #rare opportunity to take /v4/ bantz to another level
Sounds like a lot of effort, though.
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>>144855050
the hell is a moeshit cup
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>>144857097
magyar
cigány
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>>144857563
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Moeshit_Cup
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>>144857710
kek to those rejected teams
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>>144857710
>/usagi/ comment
Is it a bad thing I could sing it along as I read it?
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>>144853378
>>144856401
>>144857097
As two of you said, the main issue preventing this from becoming a reality right now is a lack of autism - creating teams is pretty hard work, and takes a lot of time.

Things I can do to help reduce the effort required include editing already modeled face aesthetics like flag boxheads for the teams, making extremely shoddy kits and logos, and even coming up with a tactical export if need be.

Although it's definitely the case that the more the general contributes to its own team the better (and more people will be interested that way than if they're just all /me/ FCs), I understand it's hard to get shit like this off the ground, so at the complete least, providing 23 meme names would be enough for me to help you make a team.

Anyway, chances are if we do ever get something like this together, it would be after Summer, so there's still plenty of time for anything that's possible.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQTcRxPsoMo

How the FUCK isn't this /h/'s anthem or goalhorn?
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>>144859330
Because Avalon stuffed the team with as much PSG as he ould and made his waifu Asuka a gold medal, despite the fact that she has no real relevance to /h/.
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>>144859738
>>144859330
Surely s/he had a vote/survey/poll of some kind to decide such stuff? I wonder what managers think that their teams anthems and goal-horns should be though.
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>>144855367
Signup order is of no importance.
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>>144857710
>/pg/ rejected
fug
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>>144859330
Because S3RL is fucking cancer.
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>>144860179
Nevertheless the song is much better than /h/'s current anthem
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>>144860179
the only right answer right here, lads.
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>>144860009
>Surely s/he had a vote/survey/poll of some kind to decide such stuff?
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Can't even post the best version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-cfWM0BC_4
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>>144860459
He tried to get something going at one point, but no one cared
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>>144860459
whore that sleeps with old men for money on the left
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>>144859330
Because its terrible. /soc/ tier shit.
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>>144860551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbR2JZmlWo
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>>144860634
i actually like this song though desu
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>>144860506
>He tried to get something going at one point, but no one cared
Surprise surprise.
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>>144861051
Yep

I think it was a roster poll. The reason I remember it is because I recall giving him a pity reply
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>>144861194
Shut the team down then, if board doesn't care.
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>yfw my memevitational team has more votes than most small market boards
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>>144861292
We'd have to kill like 5-6 teams from Summer as well if we were to do that.
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>>144861807
Good, let`s do it
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>>144861807
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>>144861292
you can't shut down /h/ they're too 4cc-core
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>>144861807
You have to prove board interest to start a team, why shouldn't you have to prove board interest to keep it running?
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>>144862936
because that would expose how ded the cup actually is
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>>144862936
>why shouldn't you have to prove board interest to keep it running?
Because that would innevitably lead to a good number of teams getting removed, which in turn would upset some of the toplads
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>>144862936
Because then we'd end up with 48 teams, sensible Cup systems with 4 32 team Cups a year and no fetus.
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>>144862936
that would give /wg/ and /g/ the axe then
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>>144861807
Perfect.
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>>144862936

So what's "Board Interest"? A certain number of roster poll results? A certain number of replies on a board thread? It seems like that would lead to two things:

1) #TopLads pinging each others threads just to feign interest
2) Shitposters purposely posting "Fuck off we don't want this" replies to boards they don't like.

In reality, you're walking a tightrope because 100 different people will have 100 different opinions of what's expected. The only time we can know for sure is if a board like /ic/ actively requests not to be involved in thec up.
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>>144865136
I think /g/ has some fans, it's a pretty big board you know.
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>>144865304
i can tell you from browsing /g/ for a long time and seeing OMP's rare cup threads that they have very, very little interest
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>>144865273
Here's a thought:
Name all the teams whose roster and music have remained unchanged for years and the manager makes most of the decisions regarding those. There's never a thread up for their matches and the team mostly lives off bandwagoners.
If you're having a hard time, here are three freebies: /h/, /trv/, /s/
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>>144865273
You and I both know that despite that, the moment a merc decides to revive /ic/ they will be allowed to play
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>>144865424
Weren't actively trying to defend them or anything, I just assumed they'd have some people who'd care, given the sheer size of the board. But maybe I'm wrong.
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>somebody suggests we should kill some dead teams
>suddenly the thread is filled with lifelong /p/, /t/, /s/, /wsg/, /wg/ fans
Every.
Single.
Time.
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>>144865585
Board size and interest on the cup don't always correlate, see /v/ and /m/
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>>144865759
all me
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>>144865524
/toy/, /x/, /wsg/, /ck/
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>>144865759
They must be very sneaky then, even when the thread is filled with them I can't see any.
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>>144865867
>/toy/
Has support, runs polls with a decent amount of responses.

>/x/
Completely dead, but after they completely revamped their roster in Spring I'm not 100% sure about them actually.

>/wsg/
No support, when WEBMhorsefucker tried to make a thread nobody knew what was going on.

>/ck/
The most 4CC-core team after /wg/, but I've seen their roster change a few times. Definitely on the verge of cutoff if it ever happened though.
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>>144866179
/ck/ actually has quite a lot of board culture and shit, and the managers actively browse /ck/ and are familiar with it, but it's a small board to begin with and AntacidCanada doesn't really seem to do the whole roster poll thing anyway probably because he's afraid of making the entire roster be food reviewers, jack and chicago deep dish pizza
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>>144865867
fuck off mate /toy/ does polls i've voted in them
its just that people like the same stuff every time
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>>144865759
/wg/ is literally /4ccg/ as a cup team desu. Like, if you want to root for /4ccg/, you root for /wg/.
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>>144866393
because it has smugleaf written all over it?
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>>144866393
What's your favourite /wg/ meme, /4ccg/?
Mine is "Descartes". I've never actually seen it on the board itself but I fucking love that meme dude.
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>>144866375

Can confirm.

/toy/ hasn't had things happen in recent times that would make for a decent player. And no one wants a few "Vinyl Shit General Mk. XX" on the team.
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>>144866513
My favourite is Ronald Raygun, because freedom and ebin puns.
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>>144866179
>when WEBMhorsefucker tried to make a thread nobody knew what was going on
This makes me wonder about something. 4chan has on the order of 1 million daily users iirc. What percentage of those are even aware of the Cup as a concept? It must be an incredibly small fraction.
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>>144868613
>4chan has on the order of 1 million daily users
i still refuse to believe this
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>>144868657
>the old styrofoam and gasoline fake napalm shit
lame.
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>>144869058
900 thousand of them are DF personas
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>>144868657
Do you have fallout edit?
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>>144868613
I don't think it has more than 100k daily users, with the bulk on /b/.
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>page 9
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>page 9 again
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>>144860492
desu this should sincerely be the anthem famalaborghinirinos
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>>144865867
>/toy/
c'mon now nigga

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//toy/_2015_Roster_Poll_Results

http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//toy/_2016_Roster_Poll_Results
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We fight mercenaries. Approved by the heaven, land, and people, the flash of a lance that pierces through numerous lives.
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>>144872579
>All 24 responses passed verification

What kind of verification do they make, if I may ask?
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>>144875095
You have to post a pic FOTM toy in your anus
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Anons, what are the most memorable matches in the history of VGL and the Summer Cup?

I'm gonna watch them while at work
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>>144875585
Both of /hanny/'s matches, for starters.
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>>144875585
Both /ffg/ matches
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>>144875585
first /wotg/ match
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>>144875095
Just some /toy/ related questions. Not too hard, just to make sure you've visit the board or have some sort of toy knowledge.

>What toys have joints that go CLICK CLICK CLICK
>What is /toy/'s go to store to by second hand toys from Japan?

stuff like that

>>144875264
remind me to this put this on the next poll
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>>144876052

>Modern Revos don't click as loudly anymore

Sadface
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Wew, RNGsus really wants /uv/
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>>144876356
>group C
>group E
>/mu/ - /f/ AGAIN
Kill me now
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>>144876356
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>>144876592
I'm doing my own version of Larks Madness and this happened in the RO32

Also, notices we have WASPS

>>144876646
>like mixing coke and pepsi
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>>144876356
What group is /a/ in?
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>>144877008
Here's your reply
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>>144877008
>not noticing this is a group draw for the 2017 Spring Babby Cup
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>>144877113
I thought /pol/ was not in the babbies?
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>>144877291
For now.
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>>144875585
5. /twg/-/vitagen/
4. /mgg/-/bdog/
3. /nepgen/-/hsg/
2. /drg/-/hanny/
1. /llsifg-/hanny/
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VGL6 on klaxa when
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>>144878376
Never
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>>144809271
THAT GROUP C
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>/sora/
Whoever made this I fucking love you.
Don't know if it fully fits into the Moeshit cup but I hope it stays up
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Haniho.
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/gerg/ has the best anthem in the VGL
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Where muh /usagi/ bois at
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Hat picked /duane/
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>>144887464
Kokoro pyon pyon motherfucker.

Why isn't that a goalhorn?
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>>144887554
take your pills already you spamming autist
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>>144887554
>/u/f/o/

The spirit of /x/ carried on to the elites.
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>>144887554
>FC Duane at cost of /m/ and /vp/
I don't like this so I'll offer memepicks

/fit/ /vr/, rip /asp/ elite
/v/ /ck/, semi-free real estate
/out/ /lit/, actual free real estate
/gd/ /e/, no wonder /mlp/ want PES 15 back their opponents were kinda shit in it but not anymore :^)
/m/ /vp/, FC Duane gonna get exposed
/mu/ /tv/, le managerless teams faec
/u/ /f/, 9-4-4-0 boys where we at
[s4s] /biz/

Watch as this happens and half the teams I picked don't advance
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>>144887616
I went with meme music and the second ED for /usagi/'s stuff to spice things up.

If any /usagi/ fans want roster or music changes though I'm all ears. Also someone to help with a logo since I've trashed all my ideas because I cannot into logo design.
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>>144887976
I would think /an/ over /v/, since /an/'s managers actually have PES now and we'll be on a new version so /u/'s tactics might not work.
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>>144887732
You don't get it asshole, this is what the pills do to me.
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>>144888037
Maybe make it a tippy in a cup, or is there a logo on the rabbit house signage?
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>>144888037
A brown cup with orange rabbit ears coming out of it, in Best Girl colors of course.
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>>144888479
Do a draw for the /ag/ League next time
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>>144890229
when the fuck is the actual /ag/ league draw?
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Any blender savvy anons wanna make me 22 players, all with Iron full helms?
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>>144891383
/rs07g/ won't be playing for at least 5 months when the next /vg/ League is coming up, cool it down a little
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By the way I'm streaming VGL on Friday because Smugleaf is a fucking filthy normie shit with real life plans so prepare for yet another unique brand of flaming hell of some sort.

>4 streamers
>probably 5 with Sou
>wew lad
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>>144892125
who're you quoting?
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>>144892125
>Nep
>Dtroit
>Tenk
>Smug
>QD
>Sou
That's 6, and half of the council at that
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>>144888484
>>144888910
One of my original ideas was to do something with the actual Rabbit House sign but I didn't like where I was going with it. I may do something with a coffee cup or Tippy though, I just need to git gud.

>>144890389
Soonish, probably after Moeshit.
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>>144892764
I wasn't intentionally quoting anyone but I think I was quoting Smugleaf from a few days ago.

>>144892878
Oh yeah I keep blocking the Dtroit stream from my memory.
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>>144892878
>TFW you are 11thish in line for the great rigging throne
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>>144893962
I want u to stream without your underware
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>>144893962
Orgasm on stream again when?
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>>144895923
>computers, let alone streams, working without underware
I bet you think computers work without topware too.
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>>144896461
what
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>>144897670
IGNORE THAT POST ANON
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>>144897670
>be SDA
>stream notweeabowl 3
>have no-homo sex with one of your m8s at the same time
>caught live on stream
Never forget that Christmas present
>>
When are we getting our slot assignment for the /ag/l or moeshit cup?
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>>144898690
/ag/L signups close and slots get assigned after the VGL.
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>>144898361
I'm glad I missed it.
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>>144898820

>U SHULD HAV ASSTHICS
>can't impliment/test them properly until days before shit starts
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>>144898980
>make aesthetics
>test them on other players
>change player ID's
are you always this insufferable
>>
>>144899112

Yeah, and when you change shit it'll make shit crash.
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>>144897991
next time more moaning, less giggling
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>>144898980
>>U SHULD HAV ASSTHICS
Where on the page does it say that? All that's really needed is a logo and maybe kits anyway. You can be a team of bald serbs and I won't punish you or anything.
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>>144899246
Thats not how it works
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>>144899289
I'm very ticklish, sue me.
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/UMR/ when
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>>144899383
Is if you're SDA
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>>144898980
but the /ag/L is 2 weeks after VGL ends
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>>144899445
is it true you got doxxed?
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>>144899757
Just found out that a fellow cup name fag went to the same high school as me. So when I was discussing IRL stuff in IRC, he was able to guess who I was. plus, it doesn't help that I use my IRL skype as my cup skype as well.

>>144899481
Gif Related
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>>144900107
Who figured you out? Do you know their IRL identity?
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>>144900623
Yer, we had a nice catch up and chat. Unique bloke.
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>>144900906
was it hanny manager by any chance?
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>>144902675
It can't be/ /hanny/ can't be that much of a meme team
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https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6_Fantasy_Football

Currently leading at the end of Round 1:
>2nd: Team I can't wait for furries to win the /vg/ league AGAIN - 62 points
>2nd: Team Comfy - 62 points
>1st: Team THEY ARE MASTERWORKS ALL YOU CAN'T GO WRONG - 72 points
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>>144904738
>tfw starting the wrong gold CF costs you clear first place
oh well
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>>144807493
>/4ccg
america was a mistake
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*/a/ and /gif/ only there if /w/ and /g/ don't get managers until summer

Hat pick:/an/
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>>144907574
>Group B
>Group C
>Group E
kill me
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>>144907574
>Group B
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>>144907574
>realize with the current ded teams, /myteam/ can end up in a group with /mlp/, /sp/ and /a/
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>>144907574
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smugleaf where you at?
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Lear is going to play Knytt in a couple minutes on the hitbox channel

come see our lovely commish on his inaugural stream

if he can figure out how to host himself :^)
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>>144910362
you can't make me
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>>144910362
turns out lear sounds like a weeb, who knew
>>
>>144907574
>/f/u/m/o/
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>>144912693
Fumos are shit
Apart from the giant Remi one
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>>144913006
wow how about you just stop having opinions forever?
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>>144913275
>want one
>with shipping it'll cost >200 bucks
end me
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*/a/ and /gif/ only there if /w/ and /g/ don't get managers until summer
Hat pick: /p/ :^)
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>>144914545
>group A
This is dangerously close to Winter 13
>>
>>144914545
>Group A
Welcome to hell.

/fit/ /m/ THE CHAMPIONS
/an/ /wsg/
/gd/ /ck/
/vr/ /vp/ :^)
/mu/ /asp/
/f/ /e/
/uv/
/tv/ /biz/
>>
>people still think /ck/ is good
Loving every laugh. They'll get exposed hard in Summer.
>>
GO, H/a/ITI!!!!
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>>144916720
3-4-3 wide boys
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>>144916720
That's what they said in Winter when they ran medal wingers anon.
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>>144917871
tbqh it seems like it should be in spring but it deserved to stay up

credit to /ck/ management for running possession well desu
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>Ha1-7i
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>>144866179
>>144866372
These are valid concerns, and we are gonna try to do better. Hit me up if you if you have a mildly strong opinion.

>>144918754
Thnks m80.
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>>144920617
'go 'za somewhere on the roster
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>>144919681
I love me some Brazilian cheese
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>>144910362
Well that was fun.

Managed to get through some technical wobbles at the start and once we got going everything went well. I'll have to keep playing sometime soon.
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>>144921251

Stick to Anime, keep your creepy Apartheid wallpaper out of here.
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>>144922240
M8 that's the cover to the album Lonerism. If you want weeaboo garbage might I suggest
>>>/wg/
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>>144922240

>not knowing tame impala
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>>144923097
This impala
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Guess the final score.
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>>144924068
4-5, /lit/-/his/ style.
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>>144924068
7-1
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>>144924068
3-1488
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>>144924431
>>144924313
>>144924149

Would have ended 3-3 but for an 89' goal, too. 1.04 seems better everywhere BUT the stats sheet, but anyone who said it fixed momentum... maybe not.

Fun fact, Vitalik Buterin MotM at a 7.0 while Stormfront pulled an 8.
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>>144923010
Best girl.
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>>144924635
SeemsGood
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For those expecting Nonon here, sorry :^(
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>>144928063
Words cannot describe the things I would do to her.
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>>144930031
Uni, please control yourself.
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>>144930117
Uni doesn't have what it takes to do even a tiny fraction of what I have in mind.
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>>144851805
>/rlg/
I'm sorry anon
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>>144931742

lork<
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>>144851805
Sorry for your losses

Blaster is gonna be ded from /vg/ ;_;7
Maybe the dragon will do better
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>>144887464
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>>144932932
I want to make her a mommy.
>>
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//vg/_League_6#Statistics

And now these are up, so I can finally rest.
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>>144934175
I PUSH FINGERS INTO MY EEEEEEEEEEEEYES
>>
The following teams need exports in order to not be rigged as fuck in Lark's Madness II.
>/lgbt/
>/ic/
>/hr/
>/hm/
>/diy/
>/cgl/
>/3/

We need our meme autopilot test cups to be as not terrible as possible, so please, mangers or those of you with severe autism, please create exports for these teams.
>>
Myuer, you did right by /ddg/ RIP
>>
>>144934524
/ic/ has an export from the Unfriendlies.
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>>144934524
>lark
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>>144934786
I don't believe it's on the team page do you know where it is?
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/trash/ > you're team
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>>144935481
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>>144935178
I dunno ask Golden Wingman.
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>>144934524
Nevermind, Dag's user page had everything I needed
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>>144934632
Thanks, PES
>>
Haxbowl preliminary match:

GoldenWingman 4-1 lark
lark 4-4 GoldenWingman
GoldenWingman advances 8-5 on aggregate and will play Leo/Usermane

Also holy shit somebody played their match
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>>144934175
>Rook was the first player to get a hattrick in the competition in her team's 3–3 draw
Rook's a guy, y'know
>>
>>144939121
>lark
>>
>>144939121
>lark
>>
>>144936787
Any way I can contact you so I can send you the props for the tournament?
>>
Hey guys I want to become the manager of /g/. Any suggestions(I've read the implyingrigged guidelines).
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>>144940871
If you don't regularly go to /g/ fuck right off
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>>144940871
Talk to Lear so he can throw you out
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>>144940871
How often do you go to /g/?
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>>144941312
Doesn't matter.
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>>144941312
Like once
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>>144941546
Not good enough. You need an active role in the board's community to not be labeled a "merc" by people here
>>
>"Your N64 console will crash if you go to a PU and let the camera follow you."
>"N64 console will crash."
How do old consoles even crash? They bug the fuck out?
>>
I'd like to become the manger for /w/.
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>>144941546
not me so I'm going to tripfag.>>144941312
I go to /g/ mostly daily.I don't have much other work so I lurk there for a few hours.
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>>144942349
fuck off nigger
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>>144942545
>fuck off nigger
I am slav you retard
>>
>>144939121

Wait fuck this started? Why wasn't I told?
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>>144942349
Hi Peter
>>
>>144942349

>Russian
>Trump tabs

Planted /pol/, I guess they took their sights off of /fa/ for now.
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>>144942668
Not Peter but hi anon
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>>144942628
Why does nobody read the page ;_;
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>>144943190
We're too lazy
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Yuripost

>>144807493
>columbia
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>>144945354
sleep tight hammers
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>>144945354
Sleep Tight Hammers
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>>144945850
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE THINGS?
>>
>>144945850
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii6qKfElLJA
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>>144945850
Man. Why was the Umaru team withdrawn?
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>>144945659
but colombia are through???????

I can't wait to watch >us 0-0 to fucking Paraguay

and still advance because lolcostarica
>>
>>144946037
Too many main male characters. Doesn't fit under sillius' criteria.
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>>144945850
What the fuck is that?
>>
>>144946175
>tfw [s4s] is in Summer and /a/ rots in Autumn
:^)
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>>144946175
>it scored again
>on fucking halloween
Did /x/ do something?
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>>144946490
Once Peter trying to manage /g/ over here >>144942349 gets exposed it's a clear road to taking their place :^)
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>>144946715
>Peter

Surely he's given up trying to get his e-cred in this cup by now.
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>>144946867
I doubt it
>>
>>144934175
>Meat On The Bone, /drg/ set the record for fastest goal with a time of 1:43 against /hanny/.
>The record for most goals in a single game was broken twice with a total of 11 in the following games: /drg/ 6-5 /hanny/ and /llsifg/ 6-5 /hanny/.
>/hanny/ set the record for most goals by a losing side twice in their 6-5 losses against /drg/ and /llsifg/
>/llsifg/ Alpaca tied the record for most goals scored in a game by a single player with 5 against /hanny/.

>one card per player
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>>144948270

And to think, if the refs did their jobs they'd have 6 points right now.
>>
>>144942349
>russian
>runs win 10 (or is it 8.1 I can't tell)
>can't even crack it properly
fuck off peter/random shitter merc
>>
>>144949495
>>144949495
that wouldn't be as fun

I like it this way.

The only disappointing thing is that they only have one more game
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>>144949636
this is my gaymen pc if you want I can provide a screenshot of my Arch later
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>>144942349
>Wants to manage /g/
>Runs of Windows

Wew lad
>>
>>144942743
>>144949636
That's not Russian, that's just some cirillic slav language that looks like botched Russian. I guess that's Bulgarian
Sauce: мoя зaдницa
>>
>>144951475
>Bulgarian
Identifying Peter
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>>144951849
the best part about finding Peter's Steam profile was seeing that he's VAC banned.
What a fucking shitter lmao
>>
>>144951475
I'm a slav myself but I can only read cyrillic not differentiate the languages
>>
>>144949847
read >>144949804
>>
Was Smugleaf the one who posted the /utg/ player with the custom limbs?

If so, what procedure did you follow to make that? Does it only effect specific players? And can I have a copy of the unedited limbs?

I want to do some experimenting over the weekend with them if able.
>>
>>144952432
Those are usually stand out for me, because they look full of spelling mistakes.

Also
>HIROOOOO
>>
>>144942743

He has a Salon tab open though.

No one on /pol/ would give that liberal hellhole clicks.
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>>144954236
oh please, /pol/ probably is half their readerbase so they can get some bait headlines to post on their shitty board.
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>>144942349
This guy must be legit, he has /g/'s wiki page open
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>>144942349
>windows 10
>chrome
>no rice
>slavshit
wow could you not
>>
/g/ managers should be required to have wobbly windows and custom-compiled kernels.
>>
while, we're talking about /g/ here,
PES runs just fine on Linux with WINE after an initial bit of poking and prodding
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>>144956776
Cool beans.
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Hat pick: /asp/
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>>144957578
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Does anyone want more of these?
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>>144958742
stop ban-evading peter
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>>144958742
KILL YOURSELF PETER
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>>144958990
>>144959160
>People still think the actual Peter posts here
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>>144959285
shut up peter
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>>144958742
That's actually not half bad
>>
>You will never host a weekly 4cc talk show
>You will never interview managers and commentators, making predictions about the exciting matches

Why even live?
>>
>>144959648
Why would you even want to do this?
>>
>>144959785
It'd be comfy as fuck
>>
>>144959648
>Hosted by Peter
>>
>>144960126
>It'd be autistic as fuck
ftfy
>>
>>144960421
>Not only do I hate fun, I hate other people having fun as well.
>>
>>144960527
You're yet to refute my point.
>>
>>144960410
Just fuck off forever.
>>
>>144960527
>shifting cup attention from boards to managers even more
>>
>>144961583

>Not interviewing mercs on their understanding of board culture and completely exposing them
>>
>>144960527
Manager interviews are lame when socialcommie does them. It'd be even worse if it were a live show.
>>
>>144959648
just oversaturate my shit up
>>
>Page 9
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>>144965489
this is such a shit pic
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>>144965489
Stop posting this horrifying shit.
Keksandra is boring and overrated anyways.
>>
>>144959648
but that's just PtA?
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>>144965672
>>144965716
>still being triggered
Dumdums on suicide watch
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*shakes pom poms*
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>>144967697
*unzips dick*
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>>144960527
your definition of fun is pathetic
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>>144967768
*takes off shirt and shapeshifts into this*
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>>144968198
*summons triple gondolas*
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>>144967697
Kogasa is cute!
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>>144968417
heart pupils are criminally erotic
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>ded hours general
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We interrupt your regularly scheduled ded to bring you the dates for the Summer Cup.

Exports are due: 30th of July
Draw: 31st of July
Week 1: 5-7 of August
Week 2: 12-14 of August
Knockouts: 21-22 of August


This also means that the likely last date for the rules of Summer will be the 9th of July, exactly 3 weeks from the exports being due. Things could be decided before that but that is the point of no return.

I'll put this up where it needs to be sometime today.
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>>144973245
This pretty much rules out /ag/L as a ruleset testing cup.
>>
>>144973480
The final day of /ag/L is the 9th so it's likely the last display for a ruleset change
>>
>>144973480
so?
>>
>>144973245
What do you think of 1.04 so far?
>>
>>144973480
/ag/ LEAGUE DRAW WHEN TENKO
>>
>>144973245
>august 21-22
>Sunday & Monday
>Lear
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>>144973920
Dtroit is streaming /ag/L now
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>>144952892
>Was Smugleaf the one who posted the /utg/ player with the custom limbs?
Oui
>If so, what procedure did you follow to make that? Does it only effect specific players? And can I have a copy of the unedited limbs?
I used RigEx and imported each model at a time (don't import more than one or it corrupts with no survivors), and just free-hand edited the models to look like bones by scaling it tighter together.
You can find the base models here, you'll need to choose a different set depending on how the player wears his kit.
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2016/Advanced_Player_Customization#Custom_skin_color_template
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>>144974052
Please no
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https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ag/_League

dates
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>>144974038
Oops. 20-21.
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Amis is now a janitor on this board.
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>>144975246

Not anymore now that you've said that, you goon.
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>>144975246
I hope bent still sticks around, I always enjoyed his presence here
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>>144975991
yeah i miss seeing waves of anti Tony posts being mysteriously deleted
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What the hell is up with my blender? I tried making that directory, giving it permissions to that directory, tried running it as admin and it still won't work.
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>>144976670
git gud
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>>144976670
you need the pes_temp folder in there
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>>144976978
It's there.
both on that folder and under 2.71. It also has permissions for everyone.
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>>144973245
inb4 "no rule changes, there was no time to test and we don't want to risk ruining summer"
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cheeky 1.04 + Harlock 3.5
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>>144977509
This will happen.
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>>144977703
Who was motm
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>>144977883
GK with 7.5
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>>144977703
>7(3)
hair tearing
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>>144977952
GK 6.5

but we have the technology to fix it, apparently.
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>decide to pull all-nighter and do as much detailed SBC qualifiers as I can
>reach second match
>BSOD
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO MEEEEE
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>>144978089

I want harlock to go away and die
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>>144977509
We sure as shit aren't sticking with what we got. Fuck what we got.
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>>144978761
mah nigga
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>>144978761
Bout time man.
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>>144978690
Because ratings?
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>>144979527
If we could fix ratings Harlock would be great.
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>>144978761
since no one can ever agree on changes and when they do the changes almost always result in disaster, why don't we just have you draw cards with various changes out of a hat to decide what we go with?
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>>144978761
We're finally moving to FIFA?
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>>144979830

Yes, and you have been chosen to take care of setting everything up.
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>>144979527

No, because changing the rules according to the preferences of a guy who has a very specific definition of what "good football" is can only end in absolute disaster.
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>>144978761
Do you have a single decent wallpaper you tasteless shitty merc?
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>>144979527
/u/ should've won Winter and you know it.
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>>144982537
>not /pol/
opinion disregarded, weeb
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>>144982762
>/pol/
>the board
>OR the team
>deserving of a star
take my (you) and run you shit
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>>144982919
the only thing /pol/ deserves is being invaded by [s4s] again.
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>>144982919
it deserves it more than /a/ deserves his memestar
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>>144983116
>/a/'s star is undeserved
Meanwhile /sp/ still has their CONFIRMED durgenstar.
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>>144977703
TWO STARS
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>>144982537
>you now realize if /soc/ management weren't incompetent it's possible they would have handed /u/ a free star simply by advancing on 4 points and the arguable best manager currently in the cup would still be in the absolute worst yo-yo hell instead of having a star

JB even getting /fit/ out of the group stage after the shameful display of their first 2 matches let alone winning a fucking cup is a pretty impressive livemanaging feat even with socialspartan handing him a win
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>>144983116
Would it have been a six pointed star?
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>>144983313
2 shit stars is still better than 1 shit star
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>>144983049
THAT was a blast.
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>>144983518
>not believing in /out/
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>>144983685
Fuck /out/.
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>>144983859
>not hiking in the great outdoors
Literal pleb
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>>144983685
>believing a team that doesn't change their tactic could beat a team that always tailor their style to their opponent.

/fit/ won because JB knew how to livemanage and adapt; /u/ would've made mincemeat of /out/
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Help me /4ccg/.

5 decides what 4cc-related thing I think about when fapping. Will report back with results.
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>>144984598
Me.
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>>144984598
/an/ management bestiality
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>>144984598
Keksandra
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>>144984702
Rolling for this
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>>144984797
Rolling for KeksandraXBoris Fanfic
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>>144984598
memes
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>>144984895
God damn it, there's so much to think about here.

8 decides what 4cc-related MEME I think about when fapping.
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>>144984939
le toucan
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>>144984939
Me
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>>144984939
>(you)
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>>144985208
(You) it is.
I'll fap to getting (You)'s. Will report back in roughly 20-40 minutes with results.
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>>144985083
le toucan is ded
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>the big change before summer will be 1.04
>it will make next to zero difference
gr8
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>>144986326
Just pray PES17 is better anon
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>>144986424
It never is, except it always has been.
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>>144986424
Or pray we move to FIFA like we should have the moment PES16 turned out to be complete shit.
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>>144981816
Well maybe when the commissioner wants a rule change, other people should test rules so my opinion isn't the one people have to base things on.
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Idea: TTC but a 4CC tag teams with a VGL. Examples: /nepu/, /vitajp/, /mgerg/
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>>144986949
are you gonna make blender models for FIFA?
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>>144987095
>more tournaments
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>>144987095
>/vitajp/
I can see that working tbqh.

>/nepu/
>/mgerg/
Kinda redundant m8.
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>>144987095
/hanny/ and /fit/
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>>144987095
/fggasp/-Fightans
/utco/-Tumblr
/5FN@mlp/-Literal Cancer
/fegvp/ or /inkvp/- Nintendo
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>>144987081
commisioners have completely disregarded people with test results so many times that it's doubtful anyone will bother to show up with proposed changes. Boris has listened only to 2 - 3 of his #toplads, and Lear will listen to DF and whichever manager lucked out into star in last cup.
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>>144988034
Can you cite examples of rule changes that were good and shot down for no reason?
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>>144983518
>arguable best manager currently in the cup would still be in the absolute worst yo-yo hell instead of having a star
>barely got out of that group
m8
That group was pretty garbage. /fit/ was the only team /k/ got some points off this year.
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Announcement time.

I believe that the cup is a great tool to bring exposure to boards, especially lesser known boards such as /w/ or /t/. Therefore, I think it is appropriate to support the teams of these boards in order to provide them with the exposure they need and deserve to grow.

In the forthcoming cups, we will give 3 free points in the group stages to the boards with the 8 lowest posting rates of all boards that participate in the cup.
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>>144988356
Nice trip.
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>>144985327
Fapanon here.

Fap Fuel: (You)
Time: ~20 minutes (average about 35 minutes)
Individual cum spurts: 2 main ones, 1 small dribble (average 4-5 main spurts)

Was ridiculously hard to get into it, since there are limited methods of finding eroticism in (You). Getting a boner was nearly impossible, so I had to use alternate fap fuel to get my dick up. I took a basic approach by imagining myself as a woman and thinking that (You)'s were the cumshots to my face. My dick was still only 75% erect, but I managed to get some form of enjoyment out of it. Could not acquire a full boner. Ecstasy was medium, ejaculation somewhat enjoyable.

Appeal of (You): 2/10
Ecstasy: 5/10
Ejaculation: 4/10
Overall: 11/30 - Really not worth it, waste of a good fap.
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>>144988735
Good post that we deserve.
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>>144988735
best post over a long long time
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>>144988735
>I took a basic approach by imagining myself as a woman and thinking that (You)'s were the cumshots to my face
I can't stop laughing holy shit
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>>144989008
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>>144988735
>I took a basic approach by imagining myself as a woman and thinking that (You)'s were the cumshots to my face
>a basic approach
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>>144989612
Smugleaf
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>>144988229
during that format discussion that was streamed by Boris, there were a few:
- increasing only stats directly related to defending abilities of all players;
- lower stat gap between medals and non-medals;
- giving manlets A proficiency in two fields of play instead of just one, to make them more flexible and useful;
And probably few others I don't remember. All of those were backed up by extensive tests done by at least one person related to the cup, discussion was fine and dandy, and Boris admitted that those ideas are worth further research. Then, two weeks later, he said "there will be no changes for Spring, JohnnyBravo told me that the rules are all good as they are and we will have a great cup, I'm retiring anyway lol"
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>>144989612
anyone on the /y/ roster
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>>144989612
actual horse pussy
none of that furry shit
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>>144989612
Spurdo's 9.0.
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>>144989761
have fun!
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>>144989761
I'll see what I can do with Yaranaika and Ramen Yaoi
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>implying Peter did anything wrong
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>>144989878
Have a good browse mate.

http://implyingrigged.org/wiki//y/_Roster
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For convenient posting to reddit for karma. /)
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>>144989761
Should be a bit easier for him if he gets creative
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>>144990006
>Cute Hot Traps
>Denied Pleasure
I have a crossdressing/trap fetish. This is going to be interesting. I should be unbiased though.
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This sounds fun, I'll do it too
Post ending in 7 determines the 4cc-related thing I fap to
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>>144990274
>I should be unbiased though.
I never want this meme to die
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>>144990353
Rolling for >>144989790
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>>144990353
imagine yourself fucking Keksandra
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>>144990353
/aceg/
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>>144990062
It's not Summer Cup yet, return to reddit and tumblr. Rest assured, we will remind to all of you to come and root when /mlp/ will play, my fellow brony /)
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>>144990353
>>144989790
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>>144990353
EARN THE RIGHT TO FAP
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>>144989749
When were they streamed and had people give a positive opinion of them to merit being used, and not just opinions that multiple people weren't testing together? Notice the things that were actually considered are ones that were streamed like hessen's tests or the wrestling cup, and like 1.04 was being considered by being on the VGL. It's very easy to say no changes when you've got one person testing something and nobody else.
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>>144990442
Rerolling
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>>144990353
GB
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>>144990353
memes. all of them
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>>144990353
The colony drop rant
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>>144990353
Yoko Littner
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>>144990353
Rolling again for >>144990442
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>>144990353
Shut up train, I'm busy
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>>144990353
Spurdo's 9.0!
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>>144990710
epic meme, bro.
Keep forcing it, I'm sure it'll become funny some day.

>>144990727
I'm sure Craig will be honoured by that
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>>144990353
A orgy between all the dragonfag identities
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>>144990353
Jack apologizing after a win
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>>144990727
Guess that's that
What's the context for that again?
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>>144990727
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISye8M-86HA
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>>144990353
Boris/Slute fanfic
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>>144990803
>rerolling means you're forcing a meme
Yeah okay keep believing that family
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>>144990872
See: 0:48 from >>144990889
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>>144990353
Cowboy Bebop having sex with Messi

You'll have to fap listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5zbgD1NhMk
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>>144990062
This is going on Reddit. BUT ONLY IF SOMEBODY ROLLS A 9
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>>144990953
But it means exactly that especially with something as cancerous as keksandra

>>144990889
One of the best if not the best intro of the cup.
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>>144990953
you bring this this up every fucking time, nigger.
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>>144991149
well, you just did.
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>>144991197
>>144991231
Triggered again!
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>>144990564
you think that active and experienced cup managers would pull test results out of their asses when wellbeing of their teams is on the line? If you put it this way, when did DF or JB streamed their tests on any matter to prove their opinions as superior? Also, set of 100+ matches of same teams and rule changes might be too boring for anyone to watch, yet it's much better data source than invitational with 60% of the teams running meme tactics.
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>>144991352
It counts. It's going on Reddit.
>inb4 2000 le upboats
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>>144991319
I SEE A PONY
thanks for ruining my life
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>negative stat
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>>144991540
please put your trip on, carma.
make this easier for both of us.
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>>144992075
But I'm not carma :^)
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>>144991774
good post, smugleaffuckspigs.
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>>144992225
you're are welcome
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>>144990564
Don't know about the other suggestions, but Carma and PMB both streamed compressed stats tests.
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>>144991703
>you think that active and experienced cup managers would pull test results out of their asses when wellbeing of their teams is on the line?
If they want rule changes but won't try to test for them then you need streamed games.
>If you put it this way, when did DF or JB streamed their tests on any matter to prove their opinions as superior?
Their opinions aren't superior. They aren't treated as such by the people in charge. There were no rule changes made, not everyone was disregarded to use the changes they suggested. They should stream games. And JB did stream 1.04 tests before the VGL to see if it was viable.
>Also, set of 100+ matches of same teams and rule changes might be too boring for anyone to watch
Stats can be misleading. Gameplay is important. It's what looks good for the viewers. Not what looks right. PES13 had fine scorelines and stats but it was still pingpong throughball party time and everyone hated it by the end.
> yet it's much better data source than invitational with 60% of the teams running meme tactics.
Why? All cups are 10% teams running great tactics, 30% running good tactics and the rest are generic or shit. There's a clear difference in skill in elites and babbies marked by the goals per game of both tournaments on the same settings. The VGL is on par with the babbies and the babbies are half of the cup cycle and are a perfectly fine basis for things.
The /ag/L most likely will not be, however.

This comes down to different opinions of what is good data and neither of us are going to budge our stances.
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>>144992469
>Their opinions aren't superior. They aren't treated as such by the people in charge.

Epic meme, lad. You can smell DF's cum on Lear's breath whenever he's on the mic.
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>1.04
>better GKs
>not defence and shot quality going down
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>>144992691
How is it a meme when they're the ones who push patches the most and get the most streamed games and people testing them, and they don't get used for one reason or another? It's pretty clear they're just like any other system where it can look good for one person but once you show it to everyone, faults become apparent, because if I didn't already make it clear, one person's personal testing isn't enough for rule changes.

/merit/ needs to organize rule changes better. I don't know why they ask for changes and then have no cohesive effort other than 'managerrrrrs just go do whatever and well consider it?'
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>>144992908
>/sp/
try a good team
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Hat pick: /mlp/ :^(
Dice Roll: 2
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>>144807493
Next thread make sure you include both the slashes so it appears in the catalog you fat fuck
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>>144993165
just search for "4ccg", dude. Why would you type more to get less?
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>>144992981
I'll grant you the last point. Until /merit/ comes out and says what they specifically want to see in tests to adopt a change, there really isn't a point in testing, especially when that means sacrificing time I could be spending on /myteam/.
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>>144993213
The wiki links to a search for "/4ccg/", so this thread doesn't show up when you try to navigate here via the wiki.
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>>144992037
Trip on >twonky
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>>144993213
this >>144993437

My 4chan froze a little while ago so I just used the wiki to get back on /4ccg/
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>>144992908
>losing to Qin
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>>144993682
You're making two false assumptions there.
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>>144992469
>There's a clear difference in skill in elites and babbies marked by the goals per game of both tournaments on the same settings
You are just biased to believe that elite cup is any better. There are more goals in babbies so you complain about shitty teams having shitty defense (when in fact everyone and their mother simply learned from Winter to put destroyers on their midfielders and go hyperoffensive), but if there would be less goals, you would complain about shitty teams having shitty offense.
I agree with you on breakout of grat tactics to shitty tactics, but this applies with pretty much same ratio to all tournamens. In old 40-team babbies amount of terrible pot 5 teams was really dumbing down average level of competition, but in last babbies, we had 3 - 4 greats teams that could easily play on par with best 3 - 4 teams from Winter, as well as few shitshows that could play on even level only against shitshows from Winter, like /soc/, /a/ or /k/.
>There were no rule changes made, not everyone was disregarded to use the changes they suggested
in other words, it's basically same thing in the end. Current format is obviously fucked up almost beyond repair, how raising defending stats or making manlets viable can break it any further? Wort case scenario, it won't change much, but definitely won't harm anyone.
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>>144993540
sorr
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>>144994057
>making manlets viable
>when a 179cm CF won Winter's golden boot and a 165cm CF wasn't far behind him
:^)
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>>144994057
>You are just biased (...)
That's simply not true. It was predominantly 4-4-2's dominating winter, and then everyone shifted to hyper aggressive 4-3-3's that didn't really show any resemblance to other teams in Winter other than the fact that people like to use a destroyer or two, when really you just had teams playing suicidally aggressive all the time (i mean the winner had 3 strikers, hole player and attacking fullbacks with one DMF). The good teams are good, sure, /m/ is a great team, they'd hold their own with top teams, but I don't think it's very fair to say that the babby standard is higher when it's proven through cup history that most top teams tend to stay top for a while before they fuck up, not the shit ton of babbies yoyoing.

> In old 40-team babbies amount of terrible pot 5 teams was really dumbing down average level of competition (...) against shitshows from Winter, like /soc/, /a/ or /k/.
That's true. Only you generally have a lot more shitshows in a babby than an elite because there's a talent gap.

>in other words, it's basically same thing in the end (...)
At the moment things aren't really all that fucked beyond repair. There's just a lot of goals. I think all people are really trying to test is to get less goals. What could we do? Get things wrong and make the problem that's already there worse. The viewers aren't complaining too much, mostly just the managers who unfortunately we have to cater to because the rules say teams have to have a manager to play. You're implying PES16 has hit rock bottom, which it hasn't. It very much can get worse. Just look at how split the cup is about 1.04.
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>>144994057
>not triple threat manlet medals in Summer
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>>144994928
>pear
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>>144994781
"split"
Is there anybody left to even defend 1.04?
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Anyone got link for latest BA tools/scripts? I can't find it on the wiki
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>>144993293
Amen, brother. /merit/ should organize format changes discussion again (for starters, only propositions that sound sane), then gather everyone that feels like doing some tests for the case of Cup yet are afraid that those coming out of blue would end up ignored, distribute testing taska according to their credibility and how much free time are they willing to spend on it, and gather results.
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>>144995181
http://implyingrigged.info/wiki/User:BasedSmugleaf/benis_productions#My_Blender_Setup
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>>144995132
It's more
>at least it's not 1.03
and
>this is worse somehow!
nobody actually says what's wrong or right about it. it's weird.
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>>144995132
Yes, people who aren't morons who only paid attention to games played by /hanny/ or /bdog/
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>>144995372
Offensive teams like /his/ exist in the real cup too you know, anon. There should never be 6-5 games and we've had 3 of them in PES16.
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>>144995234
Is it the latest version? It dated 2015
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>>144994513
>him
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>>144995693
It is indeed
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>>144995132
1.04 does literally nothing. The only reason people pull for it anymore is "eh, why not"
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>>144995759
:^)
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>>144995853
The ONLY change I can kind of see (most of the time) is the reduction of times the momentum swings in a match. This isn't necessarily a plus in my opinion, since the amount of influence a momentum swing has is still completely freaking ridiculous.
Also, the striker AI sometimes preferring to pass to a second striker for some reason. But that is it. Both so minor it might as well have been nothing.
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>>144996079
It did seem to increase the amount of kekoff abuses and most dangerous lead inverters.
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>>144996584
Ah yes, I forgot. Kickoff abuse now happens twice or thrice in a row much more reliably.
That is fucking bullshit.
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>>144994781
>There's just a lot of goals. I think all people are really trying to test is to get less goals. What could we do? Get things wrong and make the problem that's already there worse
I wholeheartedly agree with this statement, but we also all know that dumbing down amount of goals has to be done in smart way. Do we want less shots/shots on target total? No, because amount of shots is rather good as it is, less shots would have to be tied with nerfing medals, and no one really wants to watch undecisive strikers that don't feel like punting that ball, or are going wide 50% of time (not to mention too many wides on both sides would pretty much change matches into luckfests). Do we want more saves? No, because it's sort of pandering to luck too (not to mention that Spring final boss was a vibrant example of even all 99 210cm keeper conceding goals when offense of opponent team was on point, so we probably can't buff keepers in any way). What do we want is to have better defenders, that react faster, know when to clear the ball and when to pass it, and are not easily bullied out of ball when one on one against striker. Raising stats that are directly tied to defensive prowess and nothing else cannot possibly hurt performance and visual quality in any way. Blessing manlets with two playable positions opens up new tactical possibilities (like different presets containing different formations without being forced to make subs or play out of position players) instead of limiting amount of viable decisions, and is not possible to be abused in any visible way.
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>>144995372
>I will just ignore matches that don't play into my theory
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>>144995517
yeah but two of them happened to a team which literally has >one card per player
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>>144996713
>/hanny/
>six kekoff abuse in two games
>three in each game
>three after 90 minutes
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>>144997008
This logic is flawed. You call everything luck except the way defenders act. What's makes defensive AI not luck based when striker and keeper AI is? The cup does not exist in a capacity of reduced RNG. Momentum is inevitable. AI blunders are impossible to avoid. That, and you already seem to have come to a conclusion about changing every other aspect of the game in the first place rather than be open minded about how the game would look on certain changes that haven't actually been tested significantly yet.

I still agree with the idea of having multiple A positions for players. I do, however, believe it will increase the amount of autistic live management and makes the cup even more of a luck factor because you can't ever predict what your opponent will run so testing is meaningless and not weighted RNG because you will never get the right variables.
Unless of course you ban formation changes and make managers use their presets with multiple A positions.
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>>144997605
one card per player isn't going to cause such a thing to happen. Most cards, if not all are situational at best and players will do card specific moves even without the card (acrobatic finishing, acrobatic clearance, one touch pass, etc.)
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>>144997868
>testing is meaningless
You'd still know their export. You just wouldn't know what they're going to run with certainty, you'd need to look at their past games, and recognise what their strengths are. Just like how real football coaching works.
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>>144998390
>managers
>doing that
>let alone doing it well
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>discussing rules without JB and DF
kek
Just tell them what you think is a good idea and what isn't, they'll either listen or they won't. Arguing about it in /4ccg/ will get you nowhere and DF and JB will pick the rules for Summer anyway, like they have been doing for a while.
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>>144990889
>watch this video
>remember those times
>didn't have to suffer through the absolute shitty of PES 16
>Ved was actually on time
>Tenko was less of an asshole and actually funny
>the other people mentioned were liv and commentated often, now we have some random idiots and one of SoCom or Marquod every other match
I want to go back
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>>144998736
VGL commentary has mostly been top notch m8, unless you're extremely triggered by DF.

I do miss on-time Ved though
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Uhhhghghg, PES has killed itself again, for some reason it's because I'm now on PES16 1.05
Are the files for 1.04 only?
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>>144999008
>1.05
Test it desu
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>>144999063
>Test it
b-but I have to use ACTUAL divegrass teams
That's no fun.
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>>144999332
Yes it is
Leicester-Real Madrid since that'll be the next UCL final
Fucking do it faglord
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slute
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>>144999927
>he payed for PES
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Hey, maybe 1.05 actually does something. And if it doesn't (very likely) there's always FIFA.
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>>145000030
>hogging free art
>not even crediting the creator

you're rotten and hope they ban your IP for some bullshit reason.
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>>144995853

People who say 1.04 does nothing make me wonder what the fuck they are talking about. Have they even tested it? I've tested both extensively with and without 1.04, and the differences are very noticeable. I strongly urge managers to give it a go. Watching /vg/ league teams go at it with no control group to compare it to doesn't cut it. You think a specific /vg/ league 1.04 game was bad? Trust me, it would be far, far worse without it. Keep in mind the /vg/ league made 1.12 look reasonable. It's nothing more than an excuse for cup managers to throw ridiculous meme formations at each other in a low stress environment. If the /vg/ league had "reasonable" games, the Summer Cup would've been a slurp fest and it would've served more as an argument against 1.04 than for it.

1.04 Is by no means a miracle patch that fixes everything wrong with PES16, but it puts bandaids on the worst offenders.
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So. What three matches are people most looking forward to this weekend?

/hanny/ v /wotg/

/gerg/ v /nepgen/

/gsg/ v /ink/

for me
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>>144998626
/mlp/ do that
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>>145001005
trip on or you are full of shit
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>>145001005
Yeah, but like >>144995338 said, it's not like anyone wants to stay with 1.03 or anything. I am just appalled for the sheer lack of options here, and this game is just broken overall. Also, the fact 1.04 seems to add even more consecutive kickoff abuse is just that much more annoying.
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>>145001279
/drg/ v /llsifg/
/gerg/ v /nepgen/
/fgog/ v /ksg/
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>>145000793
You're so upset
Triggered 3 times in one thread too lmao
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>>145002745
>3 times
nigger calm your art-hogging tits, I just got here.
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>>145001616
>1.04 seems to add even more consecutive kickoff abuse

It doesn't. In my tests with 1.04, kickoff abuse isn't any more likely than without it.
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>>145001005
the main problem in 16 is momentum swings. 1.04 does not even remotely fix that and it has seemingly made kickoff abuse worse. I am speaking from my own tests. In fact, the first game I even ran on 1.04 was a kickoff abuse shootout that ended 6-5
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>>144997868
In hypothetical case of being able to create set of rules that would make defense work (pure hypothetical, mind you), you could say that relying on good defense is less luck-oriented (or rather, you can weight your chances). If AI of strikers is inherently flawed to miss many shots, you can't do anything tactic-wise. Sam if AI of keepers stop some ridiculously fast and powerful shots, you can't do anything either. However, you can decide whether you play defense-oriented game or not, and with defenders being potentially better, you could trust them a little bit more. I absolutely agree that there always be momentums and blunders, and overall luck will play huge factor.

>be open minded about how the game would look on certain changes that haven't actually been tested significantly yet
What do you propose? Our possibilities are somewhat limited, so I'm really curious.

>it will increase the amount of autistic live management [...] Unless of course you make managers use their presets
Now that would have been change for the better. While testing against someone, you know their cards and playstyles, and that's already much more than average real-life coach knows when preparing his boys for next match. More and more teams are adapting tactic of having subs from all kinds of positions on their benches, so you don't know what kind of formation they are going to cook in their nightly exports anyway.
And yeah, limiting livemanaging to changing presets on-air and subs (and maybe some formation changes in awfully specific situations, like red card) should be enough for any competent manager, especially with multiple A case introduced. You can prepare three trustworthy different setups and swap them mid-match to counter opponent or just try something different. It's terrible how many managers are wasting long boring minutes on completely revamping their preset 1 and never switching to preset 2 or 3 that could have those changes prepared in advance.
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>>145002996
I just got *back
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>>145003052
It does. In my tests with 1.04, kickoff abuse is much more likely than without it.
See? I can be anon shitposting on /4ccg/ too.
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>>145003532
Somebody literally counted and compared kickoff abuse in spring to vgl and it was the same for kickoff abuse and less for reverse kickoff abuse.
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>>144990006

When we gonna /hax/ m8
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>>145003612
/4ccg/ zombies have no memory for facts, anon.
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>>145003301
>>145003301
>What do you propose? Our possibilities are somewhat limited, so I'm really curious.
I genuinely believe strikers should have reduced stats. Football isn't football without luck and choking. If somebody can strike an entertaining balance we'd fix half the cups problems by having the same great end to end action without 6 chances and you score all of them, the opponent gets 5 chances and scores all of them.
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>>145004473
You obviously haven't watched any games in 16. Strikers choke quite a bit. We've had some spectacularly meme worthy chokes, like shooting wide while inside the box directly in front of the net.
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>>145004735
That really doesn't happen very often. Strikes score far more often than they choke.
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>>145004473
Okay, but how do you reliably nerf strikers? Taking away some of their cards won't make huge difference, and taking away all of them would make everyone run the same thing. If you say that "all CF, SS, RWF and LWF players have to reduce their stats by x", smart managers will simply make gold AMFs with helpful playstyles and cards, and play them as out of position strikers. And if you forbid them to do so, you reduce tactical possibilities. If you forbid strikers to be gold medals (i.e. silver at best), same problem, tactical pool becomes more shallow again. Do you have any idea on how to do it without oversimplifying rules and so it's cheatproof?
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>>145003154
>the main problem in 16 is momentum swings

I would disagree with that. Momentum swings have always been a problem in 4CC, and it has been a meme for as long as I can remember (pic related). The reason momentum swings have a big impact in PES16 is because goals come very easy, so a team on a sudden momentum shift can suddenly score three goals out of nowhere.

1.04 Nerfs striker AI and buffs keeper/defender AI. That mitigates a lot of damage from momentum swings.
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>>145004984
Not in 1.04. And it's not even fun chokes, it's low and down the middle.
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>>145005413
global cap of finishing stat at, i dunno, let's arbitrarily say 85 because I haven't tested it yet.
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Right, gunna try some matches between Englund and Germunii to see how 1.05 is any different

All players on 77 stats except
ENG:
>silver
Welbeck
Sterling
>gold
Rooney
Walcott

GER
>silver
Ozil
Reus
>gold
Gotze
Muller
>gold
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>>145006142
Can I put 5 on England losing every match?
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>>145006142
Also both teams using meme 4-3-3
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>>145006495
I'll take it @1.12
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>>145006142
if you are by chance able to stream as well, that would be awesome. if not, no worries, just let us know what you see and thanks for the help
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Honestly I would love to, but I've tried it before and the upload speed of my internet is shocking, it was just mrdestructoid having a meltdown.
I will keep you guys updated.

England are up 2-0 after 9 minutes fml
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>>145006845
Post screens at half and full time at least, please
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>>145006947
You got it anon
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>>145006142
>>gold
>Rooney
>Walcott
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>>145008024
>implying I actually put thought into real divegrass

>possession is even more of a negative stat
>kek off abuse was fucking real
>england score from the off
>england reverse kek off abuse at 9"
>eughzil scored from through ball
>england kek off again

Players seem a bit less stupid this time, but they still make noob errors such as running down the wing and running the ball out of bounds for reasons.
Not much in the way of tackles that are bad enough to get called.
>pass completion.png

Anyway, on with the second half
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>>145008552
>4-1
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>>145008552
>streaming
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>>145008552
AI set to superstar, right?
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>>145008552
Wrong image

>>145008732
Yep
>superstar
>10 mins
>random conditions
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>>145008817
>streaming
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>>145008552
>streaming
>streaming Danmachi, to boot
>Zero no Tsukaima
>Hello Cosplay
Kill yourself my man.
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>>145008552
Everything about the right window completely disgusts me.
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>>145008954
>tabs on there from fucking 2011
>sort my shit out
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Guys, (You) fapper is on page 1 in r/4chan

WE DID IT REDDIT
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>>145009246
>smugleaffuckspigs
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If I were to sum up the second half quick
>rooney

Pretty slurpy second half 2bh, Short corners had the player come from the side in stead of blatant running towards the taker, dunno if this happened before though.
Defence is pretty shit all round
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>>145010546
>Rppney
As expected
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>/nepgen/ 0-4 /aceg/ tied the record for most yellow cards in a game with a yellow for /nepgen/ Purple Heart and /aceg/ Pixy.
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>>145010630
He literally had nobody to get past, shot, and fucking went wide
he was just behind the penalty spot

Also away from the diving of the grass, anthems are MUCH longer, there's at least 30 seconds on each team before the line-ups appear on screen.

Starting game 2 now
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>>145011121
>making Wayne Fucking Rooney gold
You should have expected this
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>>145011190
>wayne is a titan
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>>145011121
>anthems are MUCH longer
I want this now.
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>england
>clear ball? how do?
>0 (zero) shots on goal

Yeah not much happened, except the fucking blitzkrieg. Corners are pretty darn aggressive in this version.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r2203j0cKs

/asp/ please
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>>145011121
What mode are you using?
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>ENGLAND
>THOSE SHOTS

I think we're gunna like this version, 2/2 meme-tier games so far
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>>145013565
>tfw I'd be making bank if Englel didn't win the first game
Kill me
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>>145013647
They always find a way to disappoint, don't they?
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Anthems look promising
>players in dugout
>players walk out
>away team anthem (38 seconds)
>transition (5 seconds)
>home team anthem (38 seconds)
>line up graphics
>kek off
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>>145014089

That's most likely because you're using national teams.

Try some cup teams and see if the anthems still take that long.
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>decide to set every player to red condition
>wish I fucking hadn't

>>145014523
Ah, you might be right, I'm gunna do one more after this one because work, and I'll use national teams.
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>>145014903
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>>145009246
>no comments
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>>145015263
everyone is afraid of revealing their leddit account
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Kek off abuse is definitely a thing still, but the keepers can actually save a few of them now.

Eggsdra dime and benuldies are turned on btw, fingers crossed.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzuhhwahwah OH BENULDIES :DDD
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PES pls

>ozil saved
>welkek hit the crossbar
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>>145017397
>england wins
typical PES bullshit
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>U R GAY
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>>145013023
He's probably using PES League, which uses the extended opening sequence for finals matches, featuring fireworks and such.
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>>145019923
>CAVANI
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So after a long hiatus from streaming the /vg/L I will be streaming the /vg/ League Saturday and Sunday and the Knock Out round next weekend too.

I'm also using this post to say that with the amount of time for me to stream is rather outrageous. At least up to the end of the month. Because of this I present to you all Shitposters and Baiters a series of impromptu matches I call: Rigging After Dark Technically 4-6 P.M isn't "After Dark" But considering the Wiki and the Cup itself is run on UTC so it fits somewhat.

These hastily assembled exhibition matches will take place near daily if I can come home from work within the time frame of 4-6 PM PST

Each matchday will contain 5 matches. If no matches are scheduled then I will select the matches with the first one being viewers choice. Now exports can be sent in prior to the stream as soon as the stream goes live though I will no longer accept exports. Arranged matches can have stipulations (GSBB, Or any other system mutually agreed by the managers), Penalties and Extra Time. For aesthetics council members or anyone else making aesthetics if there needs to be a stadium or aesthetic stream tested pass me the .cpk and we'll take it for a whirl. I'm gonna work on creating the wiki page for this mess should be up by tomorrow so the weekend during the /vg/ League you can fill out matches with all your favorite teams or fake teams for that matter as we will have a Legitimate /trash/ vs /Seinfeld/ at some point during these matches and as well as /4ccg/ vs /block/ Waiting on approval from Kregg

This is gonna be so we can further put 1.04 through the wringer before that July 9th deadline as well Before it is asked, yes /mlp/ willNOT be playing. Hence the reason these are called Exhibition Matches as opposed to "Friendlies" besides those faggots can root for /trash/ they don't need two teams.
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>>145023138
Sou you magnificent bastard
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>>145023138
t
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>>145023138
In an effort to prevent the two of us from meeting in an elite cup for the 4th or 5th time in a row I'd like to challenge you in one of these matches. Would you be down?
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>>145024270
I accept.
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>>145023138
Can't wait for /aco/ vs. /wsr/
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>>145024519
Oh god yes, someone give me exports for these two teams.
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>>145023138
How's this for a logo?
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>>145024680
I like it to be honest.

If I had any artistic talent at all I was personally thinking like a moon with a soccer ball pattern with. Think like the old HBO Boxing After Dark logo with the two shadows of boxers fighting each other over it. But still bretty gud my man
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>>144978761
Said the man who supported this ruleset in Winter and didn't want to change it in Spring after extensive tests
I hope you do changes, but still, this could've been avoided twice already.
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>>145025942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhszQbOl95k
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>>145023138

Good idea mate. Waiting the wiki page, I'd like to use /ddg/ more.
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>>144989749
If I recall correctly:
>increasing only stats directly related to defending abilities of all players
barely tested, hearsay had some people say it helped, some people say it didn't do shit
>lower stat gap between medals and non-medals
somewhat tested I think? If you mean general stat compression, tested and 81/90/99 found for reasonable, lowering golds found shit, 99 keepers found shit.
>giving manlets A proficiency in two fields of play instead of just one
tested and found to not make much of a difference

>>144993293
>>144995224
You mean like https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Spring_2016_Rule_Changes ?

>>144994781
I don't think the amount of goals is the problem, rather the inconsistency of the results in tests. At least that's what I remember from earlier discussions.
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>>145027264
Nice trip
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>>145027447
No there's no question about too many goals. Only the unwashed masses are happy with the number of goals, but they're happy with anything so fuck 'em.
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>>145024589
>/aco/ and /trash/ can play but not /mlp/
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>>145029829
I'd trade /mlp/ for /trash/ in a heartbeat desu.
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>>145029829
/trash/ doesn't need two teams anon.
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>>145025942
I had the exact same thought. Spring was literally the future he chose after being warned about how shit 16 was both pre- and post-Winter. If a babby was to precious to risk changing the rules for, according to his pastebin blog post, then I can't see how changing the rules for an elite would be any safer.

I'll believe the change when I see it.
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Yfw da shorks win da stanleyc up
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>manpowerbabby shitters STILL CANNOT recover from getting BTFO for the past 6 months
loving every laugh
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>>145027447
You mean the page Tony created because Lear has no concept of leadership? Kek. Read the opening paragraph:

>it is basically still a mess on what the 4CCC should decide on.

This is what I'm saying. Nowhere on the page does Lear or anyone else from /merit/ spell out:

1) What they believe the problems with PES16 on our current rule set are, and

2) What they want to see demonstrated in tests in order to adopt a proposed rule change (e.g., "Your test should demonstrate a measurable improvement of X factor, which we believe causes Y problem.")

Like I said: until /merit/ articulates what IT thinks the problems are and what IT thinks acceptable, actionable solutions would address, there is no point in wasting your time testing, since there is no community consensus on what the problems are nor what would solve them. It's a fool's errand and has been for the last two seasons.
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>>145023138
So any teams are allowed? (besides the obvious) I can make an export and send it to you?

this might be really fun to stretch my testing muscles, thanks Sou
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>>145023138
so can VGL teams have friendlies during this?
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>>145034402
>>145034723
Yes the door is open to /vg/ League teams and fake teams as well. You can send the export to me over Skype or IRC
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early memepicks go
/ksg/-/gsg/
/ink/-/fgog/
/lolg/-/mgg/
/feg/-/bdog/
/twg/-/@/
/vitagen/-/aog/
/kspg/-/utg/
/lisg/-/xcg/
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>>145038832
/gsg/
/ink/
/mgg/
draw >TWINKY
/@/
/vitagen/
/kspg/
/xcg/

nothing good ever happens so this shit is going to be wrong, /lolg/ /bdog/ /utg/ and /lisg/ will actually win

fucking end me
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>>145038832

/gsg/
/ink/
/mgg/
/feg/
/twg/
/vitagen/
/utg/
/xcg/
>>
Wish me luck, /4ccg/. I'm putting this music on, opening some tutorials on the wiki, and booting up Blender. It's time to learn how to make aesthetics.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ30w9R3XEY
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>>145023138
If it doesn't happen in the VGL6 knockouts, this seems like a fun opportunity for /llsifg/ to challenge /@/ in an invitational Idolb Owl.
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>>145038832
/gsg/
/ink/
/lolg/
/bdog/
/twg/
/aog/
/utg/
/xcg/

i don't like most of these teams but this is my best guess desu
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>>145024589
>>>/wsr/134348
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>>145001005
I believe that the 1.12 that the /vg/L used was under a slightly different patch or something to the 1.12 that was used for Summer 14 (yairpatch?). Honestly one of the many takeaways of that mess was when someone says "it's only a small change what's the worst that could happen" sometimes the worst happens, that's one of the many reasons I was not willing to step into a new system that wasn't properly tested simply because what we have sucks. Though I will say that maybe there is a world where I'd be more willing to switch near blind but I felt that at least the problems with 1.03 were at least some of the more entertaining problems to have (loadsagoals is a better problem to have than nogoals for example).

>>145025942
>extensive tests
The only people who did extensive tests on an alternative were the /mlp/ crew, whose results I did not see until after the decision had been made because they had never posted them anywhere as said testing was their personal testing and they felt that showing the results everywhere could show their hand.

>>145030970
No cup is worth changing the rules for without the proper amount of testing. This is our chance to do it right.

>>145031783
With the Spring changes I was kind of flung into the middle of a big deal without a lot of warning and I was trying to get a handle on being in charge, as such I didn't do the best with that scenario but I'm trying to take lessons from that time and apply them to the now.
As for the manlet buff if people doing invitationals want to consider adding that to their rules I would like to see what people do with it, I think it'd be cool but since everyone seemed to pass it over when testing stuff for Spring I didn't touch it as I was not going to implement anything that people hadn't at the least given a cursory glance.
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>>145042243
I'm edging right now, hit me with those photos of your lovely gob fampai
>>
Liru on /h/ when
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>>145042243
>I was not willing to step into a new system that wasn't properly tested simply because what we have sucks.
Can we stop doing blind changes into new games when what we have is working fine?
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>>145043508
In the friendlies I hope

Probably will be part of fetus roster
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I kinda wanna make/manage an /skg/ team but am worried of getting told to fuck off and it's way too early to work on VGL7 stuff.
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>>145040105
I got as far as installing the face/hair mod tool. I can't seem to use it to import an existing hair model though. I'll continue the fight tomorrow...
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>>145043961
Just do it anonymously and if they hate you then they won't know who you are
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>>145043508
>Check /h/
>NEVER EVER is actually out
What a time to be alive.
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>>145044441
ripip canceranon
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If the game on Saturday is a slurpfest I take no responsibility for it, there you go.

I have no idea what posting this image jinxes either because I'm sure not many people like seeing furshit advance but on the other hand /ffg/ could 9-point, which I guess is a curse in and of itself.
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>>145045443
tfw got a 2-8 with similar stats

Saturday is going to be bad for my heart.
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>>145041868
You know the funniest thing about this is that you can tell this guy literally went to Lear and tried to make a team without even knowing he had to talk to the board.
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>>145023138
>I will be streaming the /vg/ League Saturday and Sunday and the Knock Out round next weekend too.

BASED SOU COMES TO SAVE THE DAY
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>>145046374
>Anal in trip

Damn son.
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>>145048295
>only now noticing this
It's taken you 2 years?
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>>145048375
I honestly have never seen this guy before.
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>>145048295
SeeSaw has God in his trip, fun stuff isn't uncommon
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>Senran Kagura for some reason in /v/'s roster

>player is called "Titty Ninjas"
>blender is of one of the few flat SKs
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>>145049127
/hanny/ have a senran goalkeeper
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>>145049210
so does /vitagen/
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RNGesus pls be even kinder

Let /hsg/ win once and let us through on Saturday
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>>145051705
Also that PH smile is fucking creepy
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>>145051705
>not beating /gerg/ by 4 and advancing with /aceg/
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>>145051839
That's a longshot if I ever saw one, I want it to happen but at this point its chances of happening are fucked beyond belief so best to pray for the next best thing
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>>145030970

It brought us /m/ winning, so they should leave things as is.

Time for arrogance :^)
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On the offchance, anyone here know how to rip models from Dreamcast games, or ahave a cmoplete rip from that sonic racing game with al lthe segas from a few years back?
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>>145051705
I'm rooting for you to make it neps since my team will probably choke a 3-0 lead away today and be eliminated.
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>>145052790
Which team?
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>>145052970
/vitagen/
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>>145053127
It's ogre
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>>145053183
yeah
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>>145043730
>PES patch
We can't just jump into this, guys. The consequences could be huge, so we need loadsa tests first.

>new PES
LOL we are moving to the new version of PES, even though nobody tested it much.

Is there a reason /merit/ doesn't do this kind of testing itself? It's weird that they're 100% in control of the cup and 0% responsible for testing the rules they enforce. If you ask the community to devote its time like this, it should have some say. If you want absolute authority, then you should do the work yourselves, /merit/.
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>>145056641
>/merit/
>doing anything of merit
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Reminder that the signup for the Moeshit Cup closes today.
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>>145057625
oh no!
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>>145057513
Am I crazy? Usually, 100% authority comes with 100% responsibility. /admin/ and /merit/ both reserved full control of the cup for themselves and outsourced all of the hard work to people who, largely, don't much care for the people in charge and how they operate. It's such a strange arrangement.
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>>145020304
I was doing Exhibition as always.

Will do that match with clubs
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>>145060410
When you choose Exhibition, you have to then pick a mode you dumb cunt.
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>>145045443
You fucking stop this shit now
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>>145042243
>The only people who did extensive tests on an alternative were the /mlp/ crew
Well I don't know what you count as "extensive", but you yourself posted the link to PMB's test stream before "no rule changes" was announced (although I assume you are talking about different /mlp/ tests), as well as Carma's stuff, and I assume you were aware of JB's tests. And I'm pretty sure Hessen's tests count as extensive, as does the Wrestling Cup II. Granted, pretty much all of those latter two tests resulted in the changes being considered bad, but those were extensive tests. And lets not forget NED's very extensive tests that were already done before Winter.
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For clubs anthems are the same as last version
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>>145059326
Thanks Dr.BorisG!
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>>145061608
This is always what the people in charge say, though.
>nobody tested!
>okay, these guys tested, but it was inconclusive!
>okay, a lot of people thought the testing validated a change, but there wasn't enough time!
^the last three years of the cup
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You know what? I tried, I tried being nice, I tried apologizing to you for things I shouldn't have even apologized for in the first place, but no. You fat, shitty, useless, lard based life form couldn't be a civil suit Erwin for just 10 seconds. Well fuck you. I hope wasps crawl into your tiny dick's urethra, shrivel some eggs into there and rupture it on the inside. I hope you get tumors in you balls so they implode and make you shit your blood for 14 hours straight. I hope you choke on all the black dick you're gobbling and slowly begin to run out of air as you feel every last bit of your pathetic, worthless, maggot life fleeting away like it should. We could've been friends, that's the sad part. But you decided that it's more important to maintain your image as a narcissistic, aids ridden, shit feasting, closet faggot, nigger licking, weeaboo, asshole.

So fuck you f4r

-Sincerely, You know my fuckIng name
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>>145063545
>being this mad
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>>145063545
t. Peter the little bitch nigga gaylord
Get fucked.
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>>145061608
Yes I'm referring to other tests done by /mlp/ that I was shown after the decision was made. PMB's test stream was 4 different systems with 5 games in each of them. The one he liked was 80-90-99.

Carma's tested changing individual stats was interesting and looked good results wise but hindered by the fact that the stream he used had no VODs for anyone who wasn't there to judge how the games looked properly. I unfortunately missed the stream and am very curious how it made /k/ not shit. This was the best evidence that a change would be worth it but no-one else really looked too close at this so all we had to judge was 15 games nobody saw. The games looked good on paper but we're trying to make PES >fun to watch and that is difficult to judge if nobody has seen the games firsthand.

For JB's tests he stated he felt the rules he tested shouldn't be adopted, not a great endorsement.

Hessen's streams tested 2 rule sets with 30 games in them each. One of them was 99 keepers and it played like shit. The other one was 84/94/99. The games looked okay but some of the teams were on horrid meme tactics and that makes it very difficult to judge how the games would look under more normal circumstances (that's why Carma using Winter exports was helpful and in our current situation the /vg/L is something people want to win so the exports aren't utter trash on purpose).

Wrasslin Bowl was watched by a lot of people and the results were not liked at all it was dismissed. As I see it the two most important things to strive for in the Cup is that the games are fun to watch and the better team is more likely to win. Since this tourney failed the first step Harlock was dismissed (maybe it was wrong to do so but hindsight is 20/20).

NED's testing was about getting a baseline for PES 16 under the current rules not about rule changes.

Some of the above was extensive indeed so I probably ought to have specified extensive, and useful to making a well informed decision.
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>>145063639
what are you using to test new harlock? /ag/L?
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>>145063878
New Harlock is likely for the /ag/L.

I also was approached by the organizers of the Moeshit Cup as well and they might be testing a ruleset with compressed statlines, which will be interesting to see since it was something people had strong opinions of for 1.03 and seeing if that plus our new fangled patches helps.
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>>145064109
compressed statlines?
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>>145064109
Anyone wanted to test the magical manlet rule? Non medal 165cm allowed to have two playable positions (iirc). What's the consensus on that?
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>>145063545
Based f4r
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>>145064248
I believe they might run 80/85/90 on 1.04 potentially with Harlock. Me saying this I should specify that they haven't decided yet and it could not be run on anything like this.

>>145064249
That might be being tested in /ag/L but Nomo is asleep right now and he's spearheading that so we wait and see. The buff was for players in the manlet tiers of height (meaning they get the weak foot buffs) that aren't golds get a second A position. I think it's a cool idea but the only time its been tested was during Hessen's testing and the teams that tried to take advantage of it were running batshit moronic tactics so I have no idea how it works if you're trying to win.
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>>145064294
Based Peter
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>>145064796
oh great now my possession long bunker fluid will probably break
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>>145063545
I shall now commence the airing of the grievances.
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>>145065538
>all bulgarians are now banned from the 4CC
Oi you bloody wanker my totally not dead co-manager is Bulgarian
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>>145063639
>Yes I'm referring to other tests done by /mlp/ that I was shown after the decision was made.

I don't think documented stats give good insight into whether a patch improves gameplay. That's why we need streams with teams who we've already seen play so we know whether the patches change anything.

The /vg/ league and /ag/ league are not useful on this, and trying to see whether different patches/rulesets make any difference will be hard, because you have no reference. People are going to see whatever they want to see.

Ideally, someone would run a small Summer test cup with the top 8 Winter and Spring teams. Teams we know have their shit together. That way, if the gameplay is still shit, we know the patch/rules are to blame.
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>>145065538

You're doing good work, f4r.

Bulgaria is a non-country anyway
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>>145065678
>>145065758
Pretty sure NED is also Bulgarian.
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>>145065819
He lives in Canada
I think smear is the only one living in Bulgaria
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>>145065538
>unable to refute the argument
>I know I'll post his Facebook instead
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>>145065973

Hi, Peter!
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>>145065538
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>>145066003
Hi yes, that's me.
Still doesn't refute my point though
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>>145065538

The lenghts he's ready to go in order to get in this cup...it's kind of amazing, in it's own hopelessely autistic way.
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>>145066202
He has been on the ptr and even commentated once
>We can't stop him
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>>145065843
Never said he doesn't. Living in Canada doesn't make you Canadian.
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>>145066121

NO ONE CARES
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reminder to only make one thread
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New:
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>>145066273
Yeah but he's not gonna get IP banned if he's living in Canada, so that's a bit irrelevant?
I was talking about people residing in Bulgaria potentially getting hit by a ban by accident
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>>145066337
to-kiiii~
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>>145066121
I didn't post your facebook, you did: you posted a blog video of yourself whining about us on team nbp, on youtube there was a "channel 2" link for that channel, the first video on that channel had (and still has) a link to a facebook profile of some random slav, and "peter petrov" happened to comment (publicly, no less!) on the most recent post on that profile. That's not doxing you incompetent baboon, you literally linked your own facebook profile via 3-4 clicks. You """""doxed""""" yourself.
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>>145065538
>Bulgaria is banned
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>>145066732
Fine, that's all I asked for thanks for explaining. I see no point in staying MAD about something when we can sort it out the civil way.
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>>145064796
>80/85/90
How do you want your spaghetti, senpai?
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>>145068695
Is going to be the same spaghetti as if players were 55/56/57
Stats dont magically change the AI
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