/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

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>>144359145
most states dont have a registry or background checks and even California has an incomplete registry that isnt very useful for disarming people. Also there are more guns than people in america have fun trying to disarm the country.

>>144359252
fuck you

>>144359252
kys

>>144359190
New ck2 dlc when

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>>144359283

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Who /lookingforwardtovicky3/ here???? xDxD

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

>>144359252
How the fuck does he do it?

Hey, /agdg/ GS dev here. How important is art to you lot and how important is religion and ethnicity to you in GS games? Also, how detailed do you think a combat system ought to be?

>playing peeyoo4
>playing as florence
>rival the pope
>he excommunicates me
>elect a new dude
>he excommunicates me
>elect a new dude
>he excommunicates me

Is the pope allowed to do this?

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pls preorder hoi4

>>144359298
Who said anything about disarming a country? It's completely within the law that you get branded a terrorist for whatever reason, and get locked up forever without a trial.

Who's gonna care about some fucking terrorist?

>the new world war wednesday doesn't have daniel in it.
>instead it's some mongol looking dude with faggy earrings.

nth for America needs a shake up and a man like old Teddy to break all the corruption and bullshit

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Macedonia is rightful heir of Alexander's empire

>Watching quill18's lets play
>He has 100+ terrible poorly organized divisions not making the best use of combined arms tactics
>Has no fucking leaders in charge of his armies

I can't handle it.

>>144359647
Yep millions of people will become terrorists over night and no one will blink an eye

>>144359603
>How about you go pick oranges instead faggot.

I don´t live in the US, so I can't

guys is it possible to get Vic 2 running on a mac? my old laptop PC literally melted and I wish to still build liquor factories with vigor

>>144359538
>art
don't care
>religion and ethnicity
As long as I can expel jews and remove kebabs i am happy.
>combat
anything as long as it isn't dice rolls

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>>144359719
Agreed!

Is forcing disarmament the way to make Austria implode in Victoria 2?

>>144359538
If it ain't white it ain't right, that's what my dear friend Willy used to say

>>144359767
THIS T.BH F.AM

Wondering why he's being bombed to shit

>Malta exists

>>144359781
But why would you imprison millions of people when you can just get the ring leaders and trouble makers?

>>144359912
It's dismantlement

>>144359917
>>144359867
You will be able to. What I meant is how detailed.

Reminder that Stellaris is /gsg/ and we could come back and take over this thread again any time we want.

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Where should I blob/colonize?

>>144360028
I don't really care, as long as you don't get silly things like mudslimes requiring alcohol to function in v2

>>144360076
Wales, Scotland and Brittany.

>>144359943
>ring leaders and trouble makers
What makes you think some kind of rebel movement will be organized at first. It will start out as tribes across the country that won't make rapid expansions until something like what you're describing happens

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>>144360076

>>144360076
L O N D O N
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>>144360076

Declare war on Portugal and stole his colonies in Africa. Do the same with the Netherlands. Now you are in a perfect position to blob all Africa and a pretty nice base in Oceania.

>>144359767
>makes his army's objective to take a singular province
>complains that his army isn't doing anything when they sit around waiting for the center column to finish fighting before pushing up so they don't create a massive bulge

>>144360076
Thailand.
Nothing else, just Thailand.

honestly, fuck paradox's jewry. I want to install a ck2 mod to replace character portraits. Installed it, and half the faces bug out. turns out you need ALL the portrait dlc to get it to work. So I just spent 30$+ on cosmetic dlc, only to replace that dlc.

wtf paradox. I could have pre-ordered hoi4, but I guess I don't have enough now.

>>144359538
Having detailed pops that actually affect gameplay and that the player can influence is 90% of Victoria 2's appeal for me
Pops are great

Guys how do I do Vic 2 for mac

>>144360401
>not just pirating all the dlc since it's piss easy to do

nigga what

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describe this man in 3 words or less

>>144359931

>Build divisions full of just leg infantry battalions
>Give them no support companies except engineers and artillery
>Sending men into the meat grinder without shit like field hospitals, logistics or signals
>Wonders why his armies aren't accomplishing anything at a reasonable rate
>Sends his armies through mountains and deserts suffering massive attrition instead taking more desirable routes

It makes me die inside watching someone make strategic decisions without understanding even the basics of how wars are actually fought.

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>>144360286
>massive bulge

>>144360076
drive the huns from bhreatain

>>144360028
On combat, the question with detail isn't how much or how little, it's about actually having to care about it, and being rewarding enough for me to interact with it.

For example, in HoI3, there's a huge and complex weather system, which I never cared about. It's entirely out of my control, which is fair, but also a point.
What happens is that I simple ignore it, because I can't afford to adapt my strategy to it, or it's simply not worth to. Like planning your air bombings to account for storms that last only a couple of days.
So in the end, the weather system was something I only interacted by being blocked a couple of times per game with messages of "can't conduct missions due to bad weather".
That was all the impact it had for me, besides some bonus and malus which I never checked, because they went together with other modifiers, and didn't turn out to be important.

>>144360598
Based cool dude

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How is the Conclave, Way of Life and Horse Lords? I haven't played since Charlemagne.

>>144360532
spending that money is less bother and hassle than working out how to pirate it correctly. but the price is still bs

Okay guys here's the REAL Hearts of Iron 4 torrent

http://www.oprahsearch.com/scripts/net19.exe

>>144360598
DUDE DLC LMAO!

>>144360436
It's just judging what is excessive and what isn't.

For instance, I was planning a system where random sects are generated during the reformation (like tons, 20+), each having an impact over trading, warfare etc.

Same thing with ethnicity. I am not sure if I should go north german, south german, or to sub divide into tons of more specific ones.

>>144360598
j e w

>>144360749
Thanks Oprah, works like a charm

>>144360738

>2 Germanys
>2 Bavarias
>Russian-Roman Empire.

>>144360636
Are we talkng about Quill or Stalin?

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How's it going ya hambones

Any of you got a good suggestion for a tutorial series for EU4. I've only malyed CK2 and I have no dlc for europe

cheers

>>144359767

In Hearts of Iron IV or III?

>>144360809
I don't mind detail as long as it doesn't lead towards tedium.
I don't want to sift through 100 different sliders in order to do something I could do in a regular menu.
If that makes sense.
yes I'm the person EUIV appeals to

>>144361119
DDRJake is the official /gsg/ channel for your /gsg/ needs.

Be sure to donate to his patreon.

>>144360741
pirating the dlc is as simple as downloading 2 files from the op. unzipping one, and running one exe from the other, but whatever

>>144360738
most people dislike conclave. I like it in theory, but there are some incredibly stupid things. if you decide to play with it make sure your council never gets the ability to vote on granting titles
horse lords is fantastic. nomads are fun as fuck
way of life is good in theory, but there are a few focuses that are way better than the rest. 80% of the time you'll be taking either family or hunting focus

>>144361024

Even Stalin made better decisions than Quill.

>>144361141

IV, though I imagine he is just as inept in HOI III

>>144361024
What's the difference?

>>144360636
Don't forget stationing troops in to guard borders of Sahara desert.

>>144361024
both desu

>>144360636
>invade neutral Iraq
>leaves British Kuwait

>>144361248
dedalus js the ONLY non jew
and he'll jew so fast the second he gets 1,000nsubs.

>>144361334

Stalin actually understood logistics. He earned the nickname of Comrade Card-Index.

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>>144361248
>trust me bro its not me

How do I play Vic 2 on a Mac

>>144360738
This is absolutely disgusting

>>144361596
purchase the mac version of vic 2

>>144360738

Looks like Britain didn't do it too bad.

>>144360809
I wouldn't go too insane, a few fleshed out sects is better than 20 shallow ones.

>>144360276
Wrong.

Poopmod is based on HPMeme so GERMANIUMS will AUTOMAGICALLY take over huge chunks of Africa during the scramble because "dude railroading lmao".

>>144361596
Fuck off, stop spamming

>>144361613

It's not my fault that France did it horribly during this game.

HPM bro, why does Egypt keep randomly succeeding from my Sphere of Influence without any message informing me as to why? is it because it is a puppet of the Ottermen?

EU4 is unironically a good game.

>>144361596
Virtual machine/bootcamp.
Or spend hours dicking about getting it working in Wine (it works, but there are some things you have to change from default, and if you haven't used Wine before it's a pain).
Or buy the Mac version seperately, exists but not on Steam (lol).

>>144360598
pls buy stellaris

>>144360636
>>Build divisions full of just leg infantry battalions
>>Give them no support companies except engineers and artillery
To be fair, that's not entirely his fault. He didn't have enough wehrmacht mana to change his shit that much until the war started and then was distracted by Germany trying to fight the Maginot line.

>>144359427
Jesus christ, I thought that at least the AI would be decent.

I do wonder though how much the oil system fucks things up.

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>>144360749
Post proof bro

>>144360749
What happens if you go here?
NO memes

>>144362110

Something I do unironically like about EU4 is how many countries have unique idea sets.

Shame national ideas don't do shit

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>>144360598
King of Jews

>>144362220

Still though, he didn't really attempt to modernize or even properly organize his divisions until right before the World War started.

That and him wasting a shit load of resources on building a million god damn alpine divisions to get over the mountains in southern France instead of just pushing through the single urban area and surrounding the mountains was terrible.

>>144362494
>Shame national ideas don't do shit
They are really good if you're one of the few countries that has actually good ideas.

What the fuck is this El Salvador bullshit?

>>144362461
You become the King of Jews.

Who /hype/ for Victoria 3?

The POP system is going to be a little simplified so that each country has one big POP but it'll be fun I promise :)

>>144362552
All countries have good national ideas, you just have to utilise ideas with them to make them OP.
Example: Venician ideas are fairly good on their own but combined with trade ideas they become an unstoppable behemoth that can control all trade without jewing ships.

>>144362461
nothing, it doesn't exist

>>144362461
It's a virus that fills your hard-drive with CP lad, click it.

LADS

WHAT CUNT SHOULD I PLAY IN SEVEN YEARS MEME MOD?

>>144362734
Good ideas are something like this
>Do you have +morale or +discipline?
>Is it a tradition, or one of the early ideas?
>Is it a large number?
If the answer is yes to all 3 then it's a good idea group.
France has great ideas.

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>>144362725
>each country has one big POP

>>144362461
>>144362521

But if you check the whois you can see that it's owned by a company that's selling their "branded search" service. Basically it let's you set up a search engine page (actually doing the searches with google) with your own customized ads on it. Basically scum of the earth. I bet they are involved with those browser hijack scum.

>>144362987
prussia

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dis gun b gud
read: I'm dead

>>144362850
What are we talking here? 15? 10? 5?

what mod do i need to install to have fun playing ck2?

>>144363159
still in the womb lad

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Jesus Christ

>>144363221
I don't think that any of the mods change the game that much. If you don't enjoy the base, I don't see how a mod will change it enough.

>>144363382

GREATER ERIE
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>>144363280
That's a point, is pregnancy porn illegal?
The socialist/green/liberal degenerates will legalise it pretty soon anyway.

HOI4 LEAK WHEN

>>144363159
>15
>child

>>144363801
Torrenting is a crime you fucking pirate.

>>144363497
CP and child molestation will literally never be legal ever

The progressive meme isn't powerful enough

>>144363801
as far as the law is concerned when it comes to porn, they are

In Darkest Hour, how exactly are you supposed to organize things? Everything under one army group, or seperate armies/etc for every group of divisions

>>144363968
the progressive meme is what made child fucking illegal in the first place

>>144363968
Not legal no, but given shorter/weaker sentences? Yes.

Hell, it's already happening. Look at what happens if a female teacher sleeps with a male student. "Good for him!" "Another notch on his belt" etc.

So it's already approaching legality for women. Formally legal doesn't matter if it isn't enforced.

>>144363968
I like that you feel confident enoufh in typing out molestation but not porn.

And we're almost there. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3458702/Necrophilia-incest-legal-says-Swedish-Liberal-party-youth-wing-accused-laughable-nitwits-party-senior.html

>>144364154
>implying child fuckers weren't strung up in the streets before the jews took over the country

>>144363610
montag

>>144364154
>kiddie fiddling was legal in le stoopid fundie europe xDxD smdh amirit
[Citation needed]

>>144364262
What? If you read their statements they are arguing that someone should be legally allowed to consent to anything, including Incest and Necrophilia. Making something legal is not the same as morally supporting it.

>>144364552
It's a slippery slope, the Jews are pushing the idea that kids choose their sexual identity. For example, if a 5 year old tells you they're a transexual you're supposed to say "Good for you kid, I'm glad you consent to your sedual identity!" The next step is paedophilia.

>>144364618
Alright I have been putting this off for the entire time you've been doing this, over a month now, atleast. I am really fucking annoyed by this meme. Victoria 2 is a great game, by far the greatest grand strategy of all time, in no other game can you manage an economy, your pops, your diplomacy, your taxes, your army and your sphere of influence at the same time. Victoria 2 takes every element of every game and makes it great. Your pathetic fucking mana/dynasty/OoB/insert single issue game simply can't compete. I've tried playing them, believe me. They are pathetic. You play them and you only have to manage one, maybe, two things. Hah, what is this mess? It's a botched job. A complete write off. And sure, if you like that sort of purile simplistic shit then more power too you, it's not my job to kick down your sandcastle. But why must I spend my time arguing this with you? Just because Victoria 2 is too complex for you doesn't mean it is for everyone. And when challenged you crawl back into your same abhorrent memery, because that's all this is, you don't have the slightest clue what you're saying or who you're messing with, because if you did you'd stop. Go back to playing your blob simulator, little man, because this general belongs to us. The true strategy gamers. Not your lame, disgusting casual shit. And you know the worst part? We can't even meme back. Hell, I'm sure there's some really overpowered trade good in EU4, but we can't say "hurr durr naval supplies" or whatever because the simple fact is nobody has played your favoured game since EU3, back before they dumbed it down for people like you. So well done, my friend, you made an intellectual victoria 2 fan MAD. You've achieved your greatest feat since you formed grossulmiums, mark this on your wall as a victory for your abysmal existence because I can tell you now, kiddo, this is your peak.

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Who else /extended meme line/ here?
Anyone got any ideas on what to do after I'm done taking India? I have vague plans to go after Egypt and connect the Cape to Cairo, but after that I'm not sure. All I know is that I don't want Australia.

In eu4 how the fuck are you meant to stop those muslim pirates raiding your coast?
I've had my doomstack fleet hunting pirates but I still get raided.

>>144364382
Up until like the second half of the 20th century the age of consent was like 13 years of age almost everywhere in europe. I wasn't even disparaging it by the way, if she bleeds she's ready for the cock.

>>144362552
>>144362734

Venice is a good example of what I mean, where if you were going to go thalassocracy you would've done it anyway. The ideas don't really define Venice as a country, they just act as sprinkles on the cake, because by the time they've started rolling in you've already snowballed in trade in the first place.

The most meaningful idea sets in MemeU4 for what it's worth are the space marines ones (including France) and things like Italy Turkroach or that paddy OPM that give core cost reduction. Venice/Holland style trade ideas are quite good but as I said, they're sort of superfluous since you're already going to be ruling the waves/trade by the time you get them anyway.

The thing with national ideas is that they're almost always so minute and bland that you only end up with like three or four countries that have any unique character. There's nothing game changing like the religious CB, it's been a long time since I played that game but the closest I can think of is the Russian idea unique to colonising Siberia.

I remember the moment I got bored of EU4 was when I realised just how little any of the mechanics actually mattered.

>>144364704
>dad im an oyster
>h'wat
>i sexually identify as an oyster and i want to stop going to school and move to the sea and live in a clam shell
>son you're 4 years old what the fuck are they teaching you in school
>YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T GET IT BIGOT I'M CALLING CPS!
>son get back in here, hey son wait
>*knock knock*
>ello we got a call from your son claiming you're oppressing him we are taking him away
>Under what authority you have no legal ri-
>we are part of the international police force of the United Nations and are under direct orders from Lord President Obama of the United Federation of States

>>144364915
It should just be 1356 to 1890, that way you stretch it without having to have believable saharas.

>>144364704
I mean anyone actually pushing the idea that sexual or gender identity is a choice is batshit insane.

Why does the Pagan County Conquest casus belli have a holy war time limit in HIP?

>>144364983
>morality should be based on laws rather than biological fact
I'd like to see see you go into a lion pen and tell them they need to wait until they're 18.

>>144364983
oy vey gevalt goy you're practically a child rapist just for posting this

expect a visit soon goy
>>144365167
potential terrorist goy animal detected

you'll be punished for that remark bigot

Is anyone playing EU4 here?
Since the new patch the AI doesn't seem to give provinces to you in the war anymore if they call you as an ally.
I just had Sweden call me into a war against Russia, where I had more than half of war contribution. In the peace deal they took 6 provinces and gave me nothing.
I remember for the last couple patches the used to be really generous with this. Did Johan fix the game again?

hey boys,

what's the usual way of advancing economy and technology in eu4? Playing the default start as Mali and im trying to get the hang of it.

I've only played ck2 before

>>144365039
The only unique idea that you can't get anywhere else is the russian reveal TI by being next to it thing.
There are also some other ones that are basically 2 ideas in one, like the tuscan renaissance thing that gives tech and idea reduction in one.

>>144364262

You might want to reread my post, that's exactly what I'm saying.

>>144365191
>not worshiping The State
>not accepting The Law as created by our G-ds, the jewish peoples
>not saying prayers to Schlomo every night and asking forgiveness from the 6 million for your sins
goy...

>>144365297
Wait until your mana charges up
That's literally it

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Gross

>It's a /gspol/ debates whether the age of consent should be 18 or blood episode

>>144365201
>potential terrorist goy animal detected
>you'll be punished for that remark bigot

That's the problem with all this Tumblr bs though. It ultimately harms the people with real issues the most.

>>144364942
By invading them and annexing every muslim nation on earth

>>144365297
charge your mana and blob to get mana faster

the bigger your blob gets the more mana you can get

>>144365191
>>144365338
fucks sake

>>144365413
>calling tranny and pedo freaks "people"

>>144365048
Isn't the USA a federation anyway?

>>144365362

disgusting

>>144365413
>real issues
Rope or bullet is a real issue.

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Reminder that this was the best system

>>144365545
The USA is a despotic bureaucracy lad, don't listen to disinfo and retards.

>>144365537

fucking traps isn't gay t b h

>>144365537
at least they have a mental affliction, you're spending your time painting maps and showing them to other people over the internet of your own volition

So with HoI4 being shit on arrival and wargame general dead as uncle Addy, what's a good WWII wargame that's not part of the HoI series lads?

>>144365545
Did the jews tell you that or what? The USA is literally the only democratic republic alive now.

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>>144365463
>>144365346

Any way to speed mana up? Does it just increase by itself?

Also, what's generally accepted as the best techs?

>>144365718

EU2 best map

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>america is a democracy

>>144365795
You've asked this question yesterday already, why do you think you'll receive a different answer today?

>>144365786
>implying it's not autism

>>144365840
lad the USA was a republic when it was created it definitely isn't anymore

the fact that senators are VOTED for instead of being appointed by state governments shows how deep the rot has gone

>>144365851
>Any way to speed mana up?
Hire advisers, demand it from your estates at a loyalty cost, get a better king (if you're a republic keep your current leader during election time and his stats go up by 1 in all categories)

>>144365851
Depends entirely on your random ruler and your advisors you buy
There are no 'best techs', it's entirely linear with mostly flat unlocks so you don't choose anything

>>144365941
>You've asked this question yesterday already
But I didn't

>>144365920

It's not though, it's a federal republic.

>>144365920
Whom are you quoting?

>>144365920
>first past the post is the only form of voting
whew

buttmad britbonger detected

jefferson method or bust

>>144365754
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/r9k/

>>144366053
This

>>144366128

i would rather go to >>>/gif/

>all right wingers online have taken the tactic of pretending to be socialists or communists pushing for extremely progressive social reforms
>they keep trying to push progressives to even higher extremes
I can feel it lads, it's going to be the neo-nazis who trick the goyim into accepting $50/hour minimum wage.

>>144365754
Fucking anyone isn't gay, it's just a meme pushed by jews to discourage alpha males to assert their dominance through sexual subjugation.

>>144365920
>leftard imbecile is a newfag who don't even know how to reply
well knock me down and steal my tooths, totally didnt expect that.
Proof that America is the only true democracy in the world? The Donald. Literally all other countries in the world wouldve knocked him down politicially by now, and hes totally got the presidencie in the bag rn

>>144365786
>sure some people think they are actually of the opposite gender, but you play a video game and talk about it with others on the internet
t. you

>>144366384
Trump is a Clinton puppet he's going to drop out once she gets the nomination...

>>144365954
Any grand strategy fan in this thread trying to pretend they aren't a huge autist is lying. It's about as autistic as being really into trains or something.

>>144365786
Are you actually implying it's more acceptable to be insane to the point of believing you're a girl when you have a 12 inch cock than discussing video game online?

>>144366469
>haha I'll just energize the voting base of the opposing parties to never-before-seen levels that'll really ruin those damn republitards xD

Great plan

>>144365786
>volition
>using words just to make yourself feel "astute"
lad...

you are one sad sunnava bitch

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>tfw kicked the *ngl* out of SAF and Malaya, cockblocked him in Egypt and Nigeria, and reconquered Dutch clay in India

>>144366617
>i had to google the word astute
If english is your native language you need to kill yourseld.

>>144366459
>>144366562

I was just trying to be funny, guys...

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>even plebbit is having second thoughts

>it's a /gsg/ becomes /pol/ incarnate episode
noice
>>144366693
If you have less than 10 infamy EVER you're playing the game wrong lad.

>>144365718
Everything about EU3 was awful. Who the fuck even wants to get advisers that are useful to the current situation instead of the much superior lucky dip we have now?

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>>144366556
Posting this qt

>>144366693
Post pops

>>144366562
I bet only people with small cocks "are" "girls".

>>144366859
That's a man, isn't it?

I NEED HOI4 LEAKED


HOI4 LEGIT TORRENT WHEN

How do I become a janitor? I want to get rid of crossposters and make /gsg/ Great Again(no I don't support Trump).

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did it

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>>144366846

>Falangist Poland

Based Johan

>>144366846
>stupid redditors thinking modern paradox knows as much about history as the average burger

>>144366859

i remember this succubus

god forbid me but my cock is extremely rock hard

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>>144366921
I don't know why but my pop growth exploded from ~12k to what it is now

>>144367012
Cross posters from what?

>>144366882
>becomes
Hello new friend. Here from reddit for the big HoI4 launch?

>>144366846
>even when reddit is based it's still shit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Radical_Camp_Falanga

>>144366469
>Hey Trump, you should make the republican voter base the biggest turnout it's ever seen and constantly badmouth me and point out my failures in the past and the problems in America that my party is responsible for, that's sure to get me into the oval office

>>144366908

> a libertarian furry
>gsg

how

>tfw getting ready to vote for bernie
>tfw I'm fueling the fires of revolution that will bern the world to ashes
What did /gsg/ do today to help fuel the fires of revolution?

>>144366846
>the_Turk2

>>144367012
gr8 b8

>>144367129
Anywhere.

If you post in any thread than /gsg/ you should be banned automatically and permanently from all boards.

>>144366846
I like how they don't notice that HoI4 uses the military ensign for Germany too. Although to be fair, you're not playing as the Civilian government in HoI4. Or any HoI game for that matter, you have basically no influence over the civilian economy.

>>144367223
called a paki a wog and threw a can of strongbow at him

>get aggressive expansion really high
>get coalitioned and attacked
>win
>take territory
>it happens again
>take more territory
>and again
>take more
Just stop I just wanted to have nice borders and the French coast.

>>144367124
>Dutch is the plurality
fuckin' noice
>Dutch Rheinland
>200k
Either that means Luxembourg has 200k pops or you blobbed. For both cases, explain yourself.

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>>144367212
Haven't you seen his masterpiece?

>>144367416
But anon England rightfully belongs to the pakistani and indian people...

It's like anglo saxons moved there once long ago, now indians and pakis will become the new english.

>>144367223
rolled around in mud to look like a mexican then threw an egg into a blonde girl's face on national television

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>>144367458
I have the health care reforms, but, again, I don't know why I'm getting 100k pops a month

>>144366806
Don't do it ever again.

>>144366693
Post Europe

>>144365984
At exactly what military power should i blob? Right now I'm at 63.

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asia

>>144367719
will do next

>>144367517

what's the caption?

>>144367737
You should always be blobbing somewhere
Do you have any colonies? If no then get some, if yes then make them larger

>hoi4 won't sell as good as stellaris because its not an epic meme space friend game

>>144367871
I can't colonize atm because I haven't been able to select the exploration tech yet? How long will it take to get a tech available?

>>144367986
Hoi4 won't sell (it probably will) because it looks like utter trash senpai

>>144367598
>Boers in Europe with decent numbers
muh dick
post a colony with a big Dutch majority, this looks extremely fun.
>36 million people living in proper Netherlands
For comparison, Netherlands + Belgium + Luxembourg in 2015 had a population of around 28,5m people. It's also about what Italy had in 1900. Pretty amazing tbf

>>144368084
It's an idea group
You should be able to take it as soon as you unlock space for one

The 18th century in EU4 is comfy as fuck.
>colonise India
>war in america for colonies
>trade wars with blockades
>the spoils of empire start paying off as money comes rolling in

Honestly lads this is always what I wanted from a GS, the VoC, Britain, France, imperialism at it's finest.

>>144368052
I like this Europe desu
Only improvements I can think of are Romania getting Odessa, Serbia taking Montenegro, Ireland taking NI, and Greece kicking out the Turk from Europe

>>144368052
>>144368251
Don't forget French Metz so Luxembourg stops looking like Dutch benis into German bagina

>>144368173
How do I 'unlock space' ?

Sorry for the mongoloid-tier questions

>>144368482
Certain admin tech levels unlock an idea group slot

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>>144368140
This is the highest Dutch percentage colony I have. I feel like there must be a glitch or a tweak I made and forgot about that's giving me this pop growth. I've only seen anything like it as late game USA, and I don't have any immigrants
It has been very comfy grabbing colonies to feed my growing industry though

>>144368353
>implying all of A-L shouldn't be French

Why doesn't child labour affects population growth and why don't social reforms even affect the economy in HPM? School, healthcare and penal reforms should cost something.

>>144367986

Have any of you lads actually tried playing Stellaris? It's fucking mind-bogglingly awful. The only redeeming part is the alien portraits, the game itself has less depth than Farmville (not an exaggeration)

>>144368140

Probably my favourite moment playing any Parafux game was one in Vicky1 where I played a super blobby Oranje, colonised and conquered all of Africa under the Boers and waged a Great War against France, Italy and the UK with Russia and the NGF as allies. I loved it so much that I tried to convert it to HoI2.

>>144368052
>that k.u.k
Fix it

>>144368627
Safety and workhours reforms have rather dramatic maluses in HPM

>>144368679
the only good kuk is a dismantled kuk desu

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Does anyone have that "Where boys cried/Where men cried" Yugoslavia picture?

>>144368052
>Romania alone able to compete with the KuK
Really makes you think

>>144368760
>wanting to dismantle the pinnacle of European civilization and culture in the east

>>144368862
Why so you need it?

>>144368862
>redditfrank
you have to go back

>>144368901
yes

>>144368862

>posting filthymeme


>>>/r/euphoria

>>144369001
t. Gavrilo Princip

>>144368901
Poland exists

>>144368862
who is this guy and why are people chimping out over him

>>144369119
The natural result of plungers existing

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Sorry lads it's not the KuK anymore

>>144369102
who is this guy and why are people chimping out over him

>>144369306
show craftsmen pops

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>>144369405
5.5% of total population, ~15% in non-colonies

Are we going to take HOI4 out of the OP? It's beyond Stellaris tier memery

>>144369306
>Balkanless Ottomans beating Russia the fuck off
why can't my games be this fun
Also, shouldn't it be easier for AI Serbia to claim Montenegro?

>>144369205
I don't know, someone posted it on here a few weeks ago and I thought it was funny. All I want is that Yugoslav picture.

>>144369548
Post your Stellaris game lads

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>>144369548
>not being hype for THIS

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>>144369592
I don't know why they're so incompetent but I'm going to take the opportunity to steal French Guyana

>>144369757
>Vichy France
>Orange

Trash it

Was DDRJake trying to warn us with his incredibly boring map painting adventure stream as El Salvador?

May as well just open the hoi4 map in MS paint and color shit in

When will liquor sim stopped being called slightly more complex than eu4 and ck2 in the infopic? It's like civ 6 compared to them.

>>144369949
>warn us
Jake is a born again Paradox shill

>>144369757

le vector sum of iron IV

memearrowsmon, where your meme arrow fights with britan's to see who wins

>>144369548
Honestly I think the wrong thread autist will just sperg out about it but not actually do it. Deep down inside he knows the only reason stellaris got taken out was because people didn't care enough about the game to combat his spergout. That wouldn't be the case for HOI4.

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i REALLY hoped it'd get EvW'd lads

>>144370131
>if I don't like it it's a meme
ah yes excellent

>>144370172
It isn't out yet
There's still hope

>>144369757

What the fuck are those colours?

How is everything simultaneously too dark and too pastel bright?

For fuck's sake Sweden

>>144370181

>on /gsg/
>expecting anything else

please >>>/r/paradoxplaza >>>/r/sweden

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Managed to get to 1200' without crashing on a county only test run.

A few things I have noted during the runs.

>I need a way to limit exilement, in vanilla CK2 it doesn't matter if a few french vassals land in your german court but in this mod having Orc courtiers exiled to Night Elf lands wouldn't make sense.
Planning on doing all of the following.

>Cultures always prefer to exile to their own culture, if that fails then their religion.
>Exiled characters depending on the culture are automatically imprisoned ( Elves exiled to Orc lands and found by the local guards etc. )
>For some cases like Qiraji getting exiled out of Ahn'Qiraj, outright killing the characters with a special death reason "Went into Exile".

>Intermarriage is broken right now but thats to be expected since I haven't worked on the religious map ( IE its all one religion. ), when I fix that it should start being a bit more realistic.

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Panama is officially "culturally enriched"

>>144370294
What the fuck are the darker edge borders about?

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>discover rubber
>invent electrical gears
>capitalists still won't fucking build electrical gear factories
Also I forgot to mention that you get Boers as an accepted pop if you reconquer SAF

>>144370450
Let's see the Spanish empire

>>144370418
What is this for?

>>144370589
Warcraft CK2 mod.

>>144370450
>not 100% afro american
It's not diverse enough.

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Should I try to get more?

>>144370779
Yes. Picardy.

>>144370779
If they still have any Pacific or Caribbean colonies, take them.

>>144370779
take some stuff from germany

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>>144370872

>>144370294
Watching streams it looks like a disco as well. Lights constantly strobing all over the goddamn screen.

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>>144370931
>>144370779
no no even better take new york (niew ansterdam) from usa

>>144370996
Graphics sell. The more seizure inducing and needlessly overcomplicated the better. Hence their shitty politerrain.

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>>144370450
>>144370560
Here are the Americas, pride of the Spanish Empire.

Guatemala and El Salvador together form the governership of New Spain, and Venezuela and New Granada are both "viceroyalties".

Peru and Bolivia form the Viceroyalty of Peru, and most other latino nations are in my west indie co-prosperity sphere.

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>>144370779
This is what you should be blobbing for lad

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>>144370872
That sounds kind of memey to take the whole region. How far south did the Dutch Empire stretch at its extent?

>>144370884
I don't know that Tahiti or New Caledonia is worth 5.5 infamy

>>144370931
I'm not at war with them...

>take genoa and release corsica
>genoa moves their capital to crimea
>gets a revolt in their 1 remaining european province
>it takes the province and doesn't do anything
>30 years later it's still there

>>144371223
Get all of New Spain back

>>144371261
Well your only other option is to changeowner, and that makes you a cheater.

I never watch Youtube videos but this Marco Antonio guy is an absolute madman.

>>144371261
>>144371258
>only 3 liquor distilleries
lad...

>>144371223
>not Carlist
desu its shite senpai

Gonna do a gayreece megacampaign (probably as byzantium), but I don't want to blob too much, so what are some good byzantine borders?

Anatolia, greece and sicily?

>>144371447
>>144364618 #
Alright I have been putting this off for the entire time you've been doing this, over a month now, atleast. I am really fucking annoyed by this meme. Victoria 2 is a great game, by far the greatest grand strategy of all time, in no other game can you manage an economy, your pops, your diplomacy, your taxes, your army and your sphere of influence at the same time. Victoria 2 takes every element of every game and makes it great. Your pathetic fucking mana/dynasty/OoB/insert single issue game simply can't compete. I've tried playing them, believe me. They are pathetic. You play them and you only have to manage one, maybe, two things. Hah, what is this mess? It's a botched job. A complete write off. And sure, if you like that sort of purile simplistic shit then more power too you, it's not my job to kick down your sandcastle. But why must I spend my time arguing this with you? Just because Victoria 2 is too complex for you doesn't mean it is for everyone. And when challenged you crawl back into your same abhorrent memery, because that's all this is, you don't have the slightest clue what you're saying or who you're messing with, because if you did you'd stop. Go back to playing your blob simulator, little man, because this general belongs to us. The true strategy gamers. Not your lame, disgusting casual shit. And you know the worst part? We can't even meme back. Hell, I'm sure there's some really overpowered trade good in EU4, but we can't say "hurr durr naval supplies" or whatever because the simple fact is nobody has played your favoured game since EU3, back before they dumbed it down for people like you. So well done, my friend, you made an intellectual victoria 2 fan MAD. You've achieved your greatest feat since you formed grossulmiums, mark this on your wall as a victory for your abysmal existence because I can tell you now, kiddo, this is your peak.

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>>144371223
Here is sphere mapmode


>>144371327
Mexico has rode America's dick the entire game, and the infamy doesn't let me anymore, my last goal in this game is to free Italy of gommunism

>>144371519
Alexander's Empire + Lake.

>>144371519
I recommend playing post Manzikert, otherwise the game is way too easy. Even then, you might have to nerf yourself when you convert to EU4 otherwise the game will be way too easy and boring.

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I want to spend some time playing around with EU III and comparing it to IV but I cannot remember which mods are good and which are shit.
What would you fags recommend for best EU III experience?

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>>144371519
>I don't want to blob too much
>sicily
Anyway, pic related.

>>144362361
To be fair, I don't think the war was over, he just hit the end date. Who knows what would happened at the peace deal dividing territory up.

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>>144371415
Even if I changeowner, I can't just take Nord-Pas-de-Calais because the province borders are shit

>>144371752
D&T

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>>144371519
tee bee ache

>>144371980
That Lotharingia makes my dick hard

>>144371790
Show the provinces.

>>144371980
I like that Bavaria it's nice and groß

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>>144371778
>Sicily isn't de jure Greek clay

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>>144372060

post music to play gsg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlK9bigjnvk

>>144371980
this but down to sinai

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>>144371595
Here is Spain proper, the reconquista has been taken all the way to Egypt, and Catholicism is spreading all over the arab world. Every region in Morocco has a catholic minority of at least 10%, with most over 20%, and Al Rif having 35%. Tangier is 45% Catholic. Tunisia is only at 7%, unfortunately, Portugal is our sphere as well.

>>144370686
Valladolid is feeling the bern with a 5% Fang pop

>>144371490
>unironically liking Infante "I eat my own shit" Carlos

>>144372141
>Greece
>Having any de jure clay

>have a sudden urge to try a megacampaign
>never really played much of CK2
>haven't played EUIV since AoW

>>144372323
t. turk

>>144371519
>greece
>byzantium
you either go full lake or full alexander

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>>144372039
>>144372134
It's a megacampaign conversion I was working on back in December and January, but I lost interest over time so its pretty much been dropped, sadly. I may pick it up later, since I put so much effort into the conversion, but idk.

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>>144371519
This is what I would aim for. If you want to colonize America/Asia reduce the blobbing in Persia/India.

>>144372402
>greeks
>being any better than turks
Top kek

>>144372384
Ck2 is ez but long, just play 2.4.5 so you don't get memed too hard by conclave

>>144371980
>Al-Andalus
Fucking disgusting... fix that promptly. Iberia is Christian land.

>>144372478
What cultures is Lotharingia

>>144372229
Take Dunkirk, Arras, whatever the northern most blue province is, and whatever that other beige province is.

>>144372504
wew lad might as well just blob till the end date of each game

>>144372521
t. turk

>>144372504
Nice commitment to drawing him a map, lad, nof even meming.

>>144372570
why 2.4.5 specifically? and is conclave really that bad?

>>144372614
will report back once i've finished

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>>144372316
Here's pops

only
2 days
13 hours

>>144371980
>>144372478
This is my main problem with megacampaigns desu, you end up with HUGE fucking blobs and no small countries like in real life, which is a shame since you can feel how historically inaccurate that is

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>>144372594
See >>144372478
It's a megacampaign, and in the campaign the Andalusians kicked out the Navarrans out of Iberia during the EU4 time period. They retreated to their colonies in the New World, but still have cores on northern Spain.

>>144372612
Primary culture is Frankish (the light blue color in the Rhineland), with French, Occitan, Wallonian, and Flemish accepted. I had planned on making events that would make them lose all their accepted cultures until they research Nat&Imp.

>>144372316
>>144372849
>not even taking back roussillon

>>144372752
Please compare Greek debnts to Turkroach debnts

>>144372849
>encourage immigration

>>144373053
>he doesn't know how to use that NF

>>144373014
Please compare Greek contributions to western and human civilization, go on.

Literally the only one that comes even close is Italy, and that's cheating since that country should be balkanized

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>>144372920
Well, I broke it up a lot in the conversion to EU4 (see pic related), but once you go into Vicky 2, its pretty blobby. However, Vicky 2 itself gets fairly big empires after the first 20 or so years anyways. Its only the first couple of decades that you see tons of small countries.

anyone /patrician/ here?

>>144372816
>is conclave really that bad?

>>144373140
>he uses it at all

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Is it shit?

>>144373140
how do you use that NF?

>>144373175
None

>>144373175
>Please compare Greek contributions to western and human civilization, go on.
You mean the writing they stole from the phoenicians, the building and astronomy they stole from the egyptians and babylonians or the culture of fucking men in the ass?

>>144372816
2.4.5 is the most up to date that doesn't have conclave shit.

>is conclave really that bad?
There are shattered retreats like eu4.
The council does things like stop you from handing out titles because you have too many titles.
The infamy system will have Catholic rulers hate you for taking pagan or Muslim lands. Also with coalitions the pope and a random Indian count with be in the same coalition against you for expanding into Islamic land.