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/pdg/ - Payday: The Heist, Payday 2 and Payday 3 General

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Sokol X Winter Edition

Previous thread: >>143563751

>Skill Tree Beta Calculator (might be out of date)
http://payday.drakendomain.net/

>Upcoming Payday 2 Tournaments:
http://www.overkillsoftware.com/payday2-tournament/

>Extremely In-Depth Guide on the Mechanics of PAYDAY 2 (think Frank found a new maintainer)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=267214370

>Skill/Weapon Stat Calculator (going to be out of date):
http://www.pd2skills.com/

>Skilltree Guide (going to be out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/nUXjB3J.png

>Perk Deck Guide (definitely out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/E6x18Bt.png

>Stat Ranking and Breakpoints (slightly out of date):
http://i.imgur.com/TY14uav.png

>Weapon/Armor/Damage/Pickup Spreadsheets (not up to date):
http://pastebin.com/dSyuTzdt

>(NEW) Weapon Skin Checklist (totally up to date):
http://pastebin.com/jivyLi3A

>Big Oil Engine Calculators:
http://payday2skills.ru/bigoil.html
http://albertkung.com/bigoil/

>PAYDAY Wiki:
http://payday.wikia.com/wiki/PAYDAY_2

>Latest Updates Here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620

>Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/itfeelslikesomethingsintheair

>Mods and Lua:
http://pastebin.com/E3m0uKKn

>Weapon skin previews
http://pd2stash.com/

>Daily Dose
http://fuldans.se/?v=bawawkvbhb
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pdg-tan lewds when
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First for dank memes
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Second for baby sokol
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What do you predict will happen thrusday? I predict delayed update, overkill saying bullshit on the forums, tons of stuff glitchy and broken, some stuff flat out not working and overkill apologists praising them everywhere.
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Reminder that they aren't removing microtransactions and to not respond to shills claiming otherwise.
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>>143919126
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Bulldozer (any_25_tank_kills)
- Target Practice: Submachine Gun (smg_100_kills)

And this month's new Monthly Side Job is:
- Old Memories (monthly_rats)
Complete it for your chance at a free Stat Boost or Team Boost mod!

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>weapon skins
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>>144094519
>Payday 3
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>investing in safes
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I want to work-in /pdg/-tan's little butthole
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>>144096857
>investing in skins
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>6.99 for one heist
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do you think biker will come with a heist?
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>>144094519
S O U R C E
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>http://steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/8/357287935540344880/
>all that dicksucking
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>>144095104
Confusion once all this shitters realize the Black Market change isn't happening with this update.
Rage once all the scrubs realize they can't remake their builds in the new system.


Total war once Update 101 rolls out and microtransactions are confirmed here to stay.
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>game crashes after playing for thirty minutes
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>>144100305
>buying DLC at retail prices
>buying DLC
>not knowing you don't need heist DLC to play in someone else's lobby
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>engine not good enough to have big maps
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>payday will never have microtransactions
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>>144102127
>Safes are now free. Payday 2 no longer has microtransactions.
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>>144102624
they didnt say that though
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>overkill now has full control of the game
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>health regeneration was a good idea
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>10 heisters werent enough
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WE
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>>144104074
wuz
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WE WUZ HEISTERS AN SHIT
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>>144101302
>payday will never have silenced minigun mods.
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>>144105259
>Minigun is the type of shit that's usually mounted on helicopters.
>Aka the type of gun that can reduce a human body into gibs and red mist in 5 seconds or less.
>Sub-40 damage.
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So crimefest 2015 they fucked up weapon balance and tomorrow they're going to fuck up skill balance?
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>>144106338
the skills change is great unlike the weapon rebalance
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>>144106512
Fuck you.
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>>144106338
Yep. I'd complain that the dumb fucks have never redone the netcode to fix the desync or redone the AI but god knows they'd just make it worse somehow.
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>>144106901
? The skills change is amazing idky you're so booty bothered.
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Friendly reminder to have your fill of Rogue Dodge or Grinder fun because they are going to be in the shitcan once the beta goes live.
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>>144107149
>rogue
>shit after beta goes live
kek
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>>144107149
Grinder in beta is still most DW viable perk deck for me.
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>>144107979
If overkill nerfed grinder would you die?
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>>144107979
You should cool it on the fiber because you're full of shit.
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>>144108263
I would switch back to ex-president.
>>144108479
Kill yourself
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>>144108592
Lead by example faggot.
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>>144108639
Only faggot here is you.
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>>144108639
Nigga I'm already dead. How do you expect me to die again?
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>>144108479
Fiber cleans out your shit, other way around.
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why cant you switch out perk trees in the load out menu for a heist
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>>144110557
Because fuck you, that's why.
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>>144095406
Why do you think this?

I want to play the game again, but if they bring back microtransactions, I'm done. What makes you think they'd shoot their foot a 2nd time?
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>>144110943
>think
It's not an opinion. Microtransactions will still be in the game as of Update 100 according to Almir. Which to be fair could be lie, because Almir said it. But assuming he isn't lying for once and the changes stated in the update 100 video happen as stated, it is not a removal of microtransactions. Just a discontinuation. Also
>What makes you think they'd shoot their foot a 2nd time?
Having played this game since beta and witnessed Overkill go full auto on their own foot a dozen times over.
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>>144111604
>Microtransactions will still be in the game as of Update 100 according to Almir.
I still don't understand.

They're going to keep pumping out crates that you need to buy drills for or are you just saying that "because the old microtransactions are still in, even though they're being discontinued, the game still technically has microtransactions"

or are you saying something else?
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>>144110943
>bring back microtransactions again

anon, 80% of the DLC are microtransactions
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>>144111970
Packs of things are less of a microtransaction and more of a normal transaction imho.
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>>144111940
Old safes will still require drills. Drills will still be sold. Microtransactions are still in the game. Plus there is no reason to believe they reboot the drills or implement a new microtransaciton system down the line.
>>144111970
>Microtransaction is a business model where users can purchase virtual goods via micropayments.
>There are a number of different definitions of what constitutes a micropayment. PayPal defines a micropayment as a transaction of less than £5 while Visa defines it as a transaction under 20 Australian dollars.
You could argue the sub 5 dollar packs are microtransactions but it could also be argued they aren't because they offer in-game content rather than virutal goods. Personally I view the DLC jewing as shitty but not microtransactions.
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>>144107979
Consider Ex-Pres.
>10 baseline dodge on lbv(+10 from low blow)
>70 baseline armor on lbv(+21 from basic bulletproof)
>broken amounts of regen
>aced bullseye
>swan song
>inspire
>AR reload skills
>basic silent memer and crits
You can get a lot with LBV ex-pres right now, because they forgot to balance it with the vest rebalance a week ago. It gets a fuckton of dodge and a good amount of armor. If specced as mentioned above, you're unstoppable.
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>>144113182
>Drills will still be sold
then what's the fucking point of saying the game won't have microtransactions.

fuck em, I was excited, this better not be the case.
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>>144113328
the anons probably right they'll still offer drills for old safes and stuff because people will still have them but the reality is that most likely they'll start making you buy the safes from now on but if you happen to get one in a drop you don't need to buy a drill you just got lucky.
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Solar is a cuck
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>>144113252
Thanks a lot, my friend.
I'll try it out later.
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stay back bro
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>>144113328
New drills won't have drills and can be opened freely, old safes still need drills that's what i got from it, can't wait to see people rioting on the forums tomorrow, they probably already have a new safe ready for it, probably chains or hoxton if they already have made them
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>>144121238
>New drills won't have drills
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>>144121238
my flack is that you'll still need to buy drills for old safes.

obviously, making it so old safes open without a drill would make the payday 2 market hiccup, but it needs to happen to wipe the taint off a bit.
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>"entering the codes..."
>vault locks
>"DAMMIT, IT DOESN'T WORK, BAIN"
>"Are you sure? Ok, KKK."
errytime
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>>144125159
I'm actually going to be upset a little if they release a Diamond Heist remake and the codes can't be wrong even in perfect stealth.
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Dumb question, but wasn't there some mod out there that allowed you to make custom skins in goonmod that provided stat bonuses?
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I wanna suck trashly's dick desu
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>>144128908
Just buy bonuses with gagecoins
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>People running around like crack-addled retards on DW and getting downed

Dumpster suit/dodge builds already so these people learn how to actually play instead of relying on dice rolls and getting offended when my no-inspire ass doesn't bother saving them
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>Boot the game up for the first time in a week.
>Play through a bit of a heist.
>Alt-F4 out because I can't find a reason why I'm playing.
Welp, RIP. I'd keep it installed for soundtrack updates but those don't happen so I guess I might as well just set it to the dead game storage part of my library.
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so how are they going to fuck up skills?
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Do I only get Home Invasion 2016 if I buy the wolf pack?
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>>144135170
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-bYcYu2zg5Fa_sT9QO2De2Mdoj63Pee_kts0uuRVLGw/edit#gid=0
The new skills are already here
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>>144133476
I run dodge and inspire in order to keep my team up and running, specially when people with armor builds think they're fucking invicible and go faaar away and alone fighting for themselves.
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>>144096123
Hello heisters! New side jobs are out!

Today's Daily Side Jobs are:
- Target Practice: Melee Weapon (melee_35_kills)
- Hector Begs You For Mercy (hector_4_jobs)

Keep those helmets flying! ;)
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>>144132473
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I want pd3 to have steam workshop integrated. Imagine community made maps and a better decal system for weapon skins and masks or even mask models. Also actual weapon balancing that isn't car4 dominated. Fuck it add an emphasis to silent-loud heists where you do as much shit silent before going loud and getting out in 2 minutes response time.
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Can I use SAM for unlocking achievements that'd give an event drill/drop or will the cheater flag freak out about that?
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>>144139765
I just want PD3 to be put on an engine that isn't as shit as Diesel. UE4, preferably.
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>>144142526
Mister Lister the Sister Fister sounds like a faggot

oh that's you
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>>144143000
Trips don't lie, he must be that guys younger brother
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Here's a balance issue I never hear people talk about, loot bags.

Harvest Trustee Money Bag DW
$157,000

FWB Money Bag DW
$7,500

FWB is much more difficult than Harvest Trustee. Aside from just being a longer map with more areas to screw up, harvest Trustee only has 4 guards, so you can effectively remove any chance of the alarm being raised, so you can leisurely stroll aboit.

Cook Off Meth Bag OVK
$1.3 Mil

Lab Rats Meth Bag OVK
$0.65 Mil

Lab Rats is much more tedious. Cook Off you can pump out a bag roughly every 3 minutes solo, even with a team lab rats can take about 6 if everything goes well, that equals about the same cash, but with more effort. Zip lines and headless dozers.

The latter kind of makes sense, but FWB isn't even worth it for the money. Maybe for the gold, but there are easier ways to farm cash. Actually, no, not even for the gold.
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>>144145308
hey retard: this is balanced by the job rate. on Cookoff, the contract pay is shit. on Rats, you get a small fortune just for completing it. the 3 meth bags are basically mission bags. All of the extra bags you complete past the requirements are always the same level as the infinite modes.
Same with Bank Job vs FWB. On FWB, you are required to get a certain number of bags. Bags If that's all you get ,the contract pays like 6 mil. Extra bags on top of that get you extra money.

FWB stealth takes about 25 minutes for about 8 mil on DW. The bank job pays less than half that, even if you clean out the deposit boxes, for a minimum of 10 minutes worth of work, and that's if you rush the place and keep the drill running for it's mandatory wait times.

You want to talk about missions with unbalanced loot, Night Club is the fucking worst on that front. Again, you get an alright cash payout for contract, but the mission bags are still just shit value, and there's no guarantee of any bonus bags. So even rush with charges, on DW, you can't even blow the safes so you have a drill, followed by an absurdly long wait for twitch.

Which is a shame, because stealth where you don't have to answer pagers and you can just gradually clear the map is fun
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>>144142526
Sounds like somebody got told.
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>>144146698
He said Lab Rats, not Rats.
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>>144145308
We always bitch about cash being worthless.

>game where CASH IS KING is a forced meme
>cash isn't king
>not even close
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>>144146698
>call someone a retard
>spouts retarded reasons for how the game is designed well
Did the overkill employee forget to put their trip back on.
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>>144146698
It's more like $5 million over 30 minutes stealth, where harvest trustee(the remarkably easier one, babbys first dw) is rng dependent but usually between $6.5 and $8 over 20 if know how to use the saw.

And it's lab rats, not rats. Reading comprehension is a valuable skill.

And cash really doesn't matter unless you're still climbing infamies, it was just a topic for discussion.
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So how is Hitman now that it no longer has armor debuffs?
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Old player here
what happened to payday 2
why the fuck does it have stats on skins and weapons and shit
am I playing loot simulator or diablo
is the car still good
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>>144146698
>>144149013
>25 minutes to stealth FWB
>over 30 minutes to stealth FWB
>20 minutes to stealth H&T with all deposit boxes
Am I being trolled or is the general populated by shitters now thanks to Almir?
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>>144149789
I was going to say the same thing, it takes like 15-20 tops

>>144149640
>is the car-4 still good

Anon...
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>>144151189
no
not again
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>>144149117
Meh, there's no reason to use it reallyn since akimbo are base weapons and no longer require skills, so hitman just lost it's main selling point
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>>144149117
Not grinder or muscle; useless.
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>>144151284
>>144149640
High-damage pistols and DMR-kit rifles are the only meme guns now. Shotguns, regular-kitted rifles, sniper rifles, and most SMGs are just fucking awful.
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Why is the Piglet so shit ;-;
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>>144151358
What? Akimbo still requires skills you retard.
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>>144151189
>15-20 tops
Okay now you're just shitting with me.
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I stopped playing two years ago. I'm mildly interested in at least playing all the new missions I missed just out of curiosity. Convince me not to play this piece of shit. Please.
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>>144152357
I generally solo and get really shit luck with the computers in all fairness
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>>144152868
Nothing has changed for the better. Things have only gone down hill. Overkill only knows how to develop downhill.
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>>144152028
Takes too long to reload, even with Bloodthirst ace active.
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>>144153152
Thanks for the pep talk doc. I'll do my best to avoid reinstalling this shitstain.
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>>144153534
Now leave this place. And never return.
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Honestly just make the game CoD with heists already, our perks and shit suckass, gun balance sucks ass, but hey Payday has INFINITE enemies like MW2 so what the fuck?
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So... is Ex-Presidents good? I find I like it more than Muscle.
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I wonder why they didn't announce a new safe to open from Update 100 given all the hullabaloo about the free safe openings.
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>>144156907
We literally just got a safe less than a month ago, though.
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TOMORROW
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>>144161883
Nothing will change.
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>>144154971
Can you scroll up, retard?
This >>144113252 guy right here already explained the whole fucking build for it.
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the picture with houston's head poking through the door alerting a nearby guard
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I don't know what the hell is going on with this update. But all I need to know is do I need to offload the skins I've accumulated on the market before it goes live?
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>>144152019

Shotguns are amazing if you spend the skill points on them. Also by DMRs you really just mean the M308, since DMR kits trash the already nerfed ammo pickup rate.
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>>144113252

Ex Pres is pretty solid now, but I hate the regen mechanic on it. Gotta take just enough damage to break your armor without damaging your health, which gets to be a problem if you're trying to regen from a previous down. It has more of a Grinder Problem than Grinder itself.

Guess I just have to git gud at an already piss easy game :(
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>Running infiltrator
>Pubbies consistently mow down cops before you can get to melee range
>Have to distance yourself from the crew so they wont cuck you out of health
>Always get cloakered because of this
Maybe infiltrator just isn't for me.
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>>144176069
Infiltrator's an armourfag's deck. If you're not using an ICTV then you should consider something else. Remember that it's for close quarters so if you're doing Bomb: Forest or the train heist then consider a different deck.

Damage reduction is what makes it great. Lets your armour last a heck of a lot longer and gives you a better chance of making it to cover if it breaks in a bad spot. Don't treat your heal as your primary mean of survival, it's a way of recovering the health you lose when your armour breaks and you take some hits before making it to cover. Use the buzzer, it will be your new best friend unless you put some points into the melee skills.

Stop acting like you're fucking invincible, that's what Maniac is for.
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When is the update guys?
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>>144176978
Infiltrator works alright with a Frenzy LBV. The risk is very high and the "reward" is very low, but it's very satisfying to pull off.
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>>144178810

I think it'll be fairly late, sorry.
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So I left before goat heist, what's the meta with the new skill tree?
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>>144178921
Frenzy and Infiltrator go so damn well together. Having an easy source of healing while guarantying Berserker is always active is fucking fantastic.
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>>144179843
dodge silent memer with an lmg and ex-president
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What will happen, if i change car rof and try to join pub?
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>>144180839

You should be fine
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>>144180839

It would probably be okish, they'd see it shooting at the same rate of fire. They'd just also see cops you kill without "shooting" i'd imagine but considering the desync that can take place in a normal game it wouldn't be anything noticeable.
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>>144181070
Sydney codes when
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>>144179843
Bow with explosive rounds
Babby Deagle with silencer
Sb/lb
Frenzy/berserker
Lbv
Ex pres
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>>144181234

Never if you keep asking.
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>>144181328
Literally the 1st time
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>>144181375

Had a guy spamming me about it, and some people asked in the last thread as well.
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>>144181440
I'm getting irritated with seeing it too, you should ban the next person to ask.
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>>144181440
Fede here, DLC pls
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>>144181440
Oi you mentally ill degenerate, gimme some free shit.
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>>144181440
Can you override the stupid looking 'kawaii' off the dozer mask? The bobblehead looks atrocious for what it costs, doesn't capture the bulkiness and threat at all.
Do you give out codes just for the mask?
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>>144181440
Give us the fucking codes you cuck
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>>144182342
>>144183374

This is a worryingly accurate summary of the community at times. :x

>>144183251
There are mods that change it on Last_Bullet, there's also a few modders out there that would probably make a mod for you if you ask them.
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>>144183795
Hey Trashly: Why do you keep giving out codes to these people who flame you, call you a shill, give you shit for reporting a DLC unlocker, etc. etc.

Do you ever wonder if you've ever given a code to an Anon whose talked shit about you?
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>>144181440
Please tell me you warned Overkill that they failed to communicate how the 2nd gen safe system is going to function, and that they should expect a riot.
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>>144184653

Uh probably because i don't take anything anyone says on 4chan seriously, kindda the point of the site. I don't really care what people say about me or my lifestyle ect.

It's just nice to occasionally do nice things for people like events, contests or just hand out free shit. The only thing i don't understand is why people think i'd give a shit when they try to insult me over being trans. I've no idea why they'd think i'd care.
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>>144184653
He's like a customer service representative, they have to take shit, remain professional, and do their job regardless of how people talk to them. The most they can do is refuse service.
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>>144184753

I have a bit, at the risk of sounding like Almir post crimefest, i'm a bit pissed off with some of the gaming sites using click bait in the title.

They keep using titles like "Microtransactions are gone from payday 2!" As the title yet they state this isn't true in the actual article itself.

I get that journalism, you're always gonna go for the click bait views when you can, but still it's really misleading.

I've tried explaining it to the few people who spoke to me about it but theres not much we can do about the people who just don't read stuff properly because well.. they don't read stuff. So explaining it to those people would be wasted effort, kindda an unavoidable minor bomb sadly.
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>>144180894
>>144181070
What will happen if i mod maximum ammo
and ammo pickup rate?
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>>144184753
Wait a sec, how is it going to function?
I got it like this.
The safes that dropped before Update 100 still need drills.
The ones that drop after U100 are free to open.
Or is it that only new safe sets are free and the unretired pre-100 safes still drop and need drills?
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>>144187059

All old safes will NOT drop after today's update. You can still buy a drill to open them.

We can't make it so the safes before the update are free to open as that would be a huge fuck you to anyone who bought a drill and would ruin the value of the skins.

Any NEW safe will be free to open, you can sell or trade it like always. As far as i know, Overkill have no intentions to add a way to buy safes. They will be only available via drops.

>>144186876

Uh you'd have more ammo? I doubt you'd get marked for cheating by the system. It would be classed as cheating in terms of what we decided is/isn't cheating.

As long as you don't use it just to unlock everything though Overkill don't mind. It's just when you're doing stuff that devalues achievements/masks and other locked behind hard work items.

If you wanna float around, spawn nuke bags everywhere and make every cop dance. Go for it, just don't be a cock and ruin other peoples games or unlock stuff thats supposed to be behind hard work.
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>>144136219
>No Endurance
What in the fuck?
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>>144187284
Didn't Almir already say that only new safes are free to open with his "The only difference is now you open [the new Safes] for free"?
If that's the case, he already communicated properly to me.
If the steam community gets their panties twisted it's entirely their fault for being retarded and not knowing how sentence context works.
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>>144187820
You're correct but still, a shit storm is a shit storm if or not they're right for having said shit storm.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuDjcobIGC0
The song mixed here sounds alot better than the original
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LISTEN UP
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THIS IS A ROBBERY
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GOTTA GET A GRIP
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>throw molotovs into escape
>don't actually get into the escape until everybody's res'd
Fuck pubs.

All of them are retarded. Especially this host.

So many heists failed because somebody decides to stay out of the box while they try to tank all the cops trying to res someone. FUCK YOU.
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>>144192348
This is why I hate Aftershock.

Half the pubs are too retarded to get in the fucking truck, and you can't be in the truck if you're dead.
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>>144187987
Too busy and rambling. Original still reigning supreme.
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When is Update 100 happening?
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>>144199838
the same time the updates have been happening for years
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>>144199838
Soon, fellow heister
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>>144199838
It's delayed another week. Overkill's spent the entire week drinking and partying because they don't have bosses anymore.
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>>144200063
I always assumed they were drunk during updates, because of the spelling and minor fixes they all need.
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>tfw crimefst 2 safes value slowly rising
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oh shit update is here restart steam
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>>144202509
>being tricky
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>>144202509
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>>144200063

The only thing worse than a developer under their publisher's thumb is a developer that isn't
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>>144202539
It's about time we start getting tricky
I would appreciate some of that black dad posting too
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>That stilted trailer dialogue
I get that they were trying to have a little bantz between crew members, but it just came off as Dallas not really liking Dragan all that much.
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>Judge can't benefit from shotgun skills
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>>144203616
since when
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>>144203616
you what?
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>>144203616
>there will never be a primary shotgun as good as the judge
>there will never be akimbo judges
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Is there ever a reason to use the Sega (Genesis) -12 over the AA-12?
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>>144204397
Is there ever a reason to use either if you aren't a massive shitter?
No.
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>>144204579
fug

Shotgun primary buffs when?
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>>144204741
>shotgun primary buffs
>buffs
Shit nigger, have you even tried the sniper raven?
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> New heist: 505 Escape

Okay gang, we have to get in there, get the franchise and get out. Easy, quick and clean.
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>>144204985

>121 damage with flechettes
>wide spread on hipfire for deleting roomfuls of cops, narrow spread on ADS for killing specials
>HE Judge one shots shields out to medium-long range

What a time to be alive
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>>144204397
No, but you shouldn't really be using the AA12 anyway. What would be great is if they added a short barrel mod and no stock mod, so that it could benefit from LB. As of right now though, its worse than the AA12 in every way except fire rate, which itself is more a hindrance because of how often you have to reload.
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>>144205276
>New heist: Blame your own jewery on 505 and then try to trick people into thinking you're removing microtransactions when you aren't.

Okay gang, those dumbfuck goys aren't buying as much DLC as we want. Time to trick them back onto our side.
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Post Sydney loods.
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>"Gentlemen, shilling in /pdg/ is about to commence. We need to swing a few posters the right way. You can help."
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>>144205729
gross
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>>144188498
is the new skill tree out today lads?
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>>144207517
Not yet, but it's today.
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>>144205729
>>144207295
Post Sydney original concept art
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>>144192348
>throw molotovs into escape
for what purpose?
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>>144210218
It's along the same lines as planking. Stupid shit kids do because they find it funny but otherwise totally pointless.
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>>144207761
Do we have any idea when?
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>>144211469
"later today"
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6 gb patch? What the fuck
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>>144211469
NOW
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>>144211469
like right fucking now
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>>144211068
I do that like some kind of celebration.
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>>144211068
>It's along the same lines as planking.
Do you eat shit?
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So what happens with this update?
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>>144211946

They changed how the packing system works so it should update faster than older updates.
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>>144212715
Oh hai Ashley
When patch notes page goes online anyway?
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>>144212518
Free safes.
Skill tree beta no longer in beta.
Poorfag grenades.
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OH SHIT UPDATE NOW GET HY-

>6.4 GB
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>>144212810

Don't know sorry but if you have any specific questions i'll answer what i can. Just don't ask "whats changed?" because it's a lot.
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>>144213114
Is there anything we should know about the update that we don't already know? Anything besides skill trees, new safes, and free grenades?
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>>144213114
What hasn't changed?
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>>144213342

A few bug fixes, though there might be some new bugs, there always is :x

Overkill have been trying not to do "surprises" too much and tried to be as transparent as possible recently. There has been some changes that beta uses won't have seen yet to the skills.
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>>144213342

Inspire was nerfed, it's not 100% chance but only once every 20 seconds. They also nerfed the automatic use for the cupcake meds, it now only works once every 20 seconds. Doesn't work with swan song either.
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>>144213725
>Inspire was nerfed, it's not 100% chance but only once every 20 seconds

ded gaem
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>>144213725
>inspire was nerfed
Halleluyah
This fucking skill was broken from day 1 and when playing PD:TH you really notice the difference in difficulty.
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>>144213802

I mean to say "it's now* 100%"
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>>144213725
Just make Inspire a ranged version of normal interaction reviving.

IE: Hold Interact on downed ally for 1.5 seconds from up to 7 meters away to revive.

And string all the Inspire lines together into one quick jumbled mess of inspirational cursing.
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>>144213114
Any other change to guns besides the ones that happened in the beta?
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>>144214039

Maybe if everyone has inspire but there are much better skills to go for now. Pistols and shotguns are amazing if you focus on them and most of the top tier skills are extremely useful, equally so compared to inspire.

Oh and sentries got nerfed from 6 to 4 with tower defense aced.
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>>144214169

I don't think so no, i know a lot will feel the game is too easy now but as far as i know the next thing to focus on will be looking at changing the difficulties.

Possibilities might be adding a difficulty between overkill and deathwish then buffing the difficulty of deathwish. It's all discussion at the moment but i think that's the next thing they want to look at.
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>no new guns
>no new masks
I would have liked something more tangible I guess but the skills looks alright
I would have liked for them TO FUCKING FIX THE HITBOXES THAT HAVE BEEN BROKEN SINCE LAUNCH
THAT CAN BE FIXED EASILY BUT THEYH AVENT FUCKING FIXED RE
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>>144214623

My boss joakim told me that he's going to be heavily pushing for having arms and leg boxes added. I can't promise it will happen but i can say its certainly being discussed.
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Nice, I thought they would just keep the WIP skill icons. Having low expectations is good.
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>>144214802
it doesnt need to be discussed
it's literally a non issue they have a mod that fixes it already
they don't have to do anyhting more than ctrl c ctrl v
tell joakim he's a fucking retard for not just doing it and getting the approval of morons
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Just a heads up, in tomorrows stream we will be giving out a few lootbag and alienware mask codes!
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Anyone still have that script that let you drop keycards?
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>second wind
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>>144149117
The armor is simply not enough; you have to run from cover to cover to make it safely at all times. Its not like maniac or armorer and such, where you can actually stay a little in a firefight on dw. If you like the playstyle, you could try it, but I wouldn't rely on it too much, netcode and similar usually fucks you up, since cops can shoot you while they dont even see you. Plus, saving a second on having to stay in cover is usually redundant since you reload in cover most of the time too, which takes 2,5 secs average.
If it had the armor break invincibility from armorer, it'd be synergistic and awesome, but it doesnt, so it sucks.
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>>144153902
I've been coming here off and on over the years to laugh at the state of the game. You can't stop me.
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>Microtransactions won't actually be removed.
>All the last minute skill tree tweaks are nerfs.
>6.4 gigabites.
I am going to love the backblast from this one once the idiots on the steam forums find out they got rused.
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>>144216167
they weren't rused they just don't know how to read
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>>144216236
>Implying you Overshills weren't spinning this as microtransactions being removed.
>>
how are microtransactions not actually being removed? I don't understand
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>>144216342

The old safes will remain but they will no longer be dropped. Any safe is finite now and all future safes can be opened for free.
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>>144216479
I don't see then why people are being upset about it. Do they really expect overshill to just completely fuck over all the players that had purchased safes/drills before? Seems completely unreasonable.
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>>144216680
If you were stupid enough to buy a drill you deserve to get fucked over.
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>>144213725
Waaaaait a fucking second they did what with inspire?
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>>144213114
trashly im new to the general who are you and why do you have a trip
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>>144216680

I havn't had any major complaints from people about that truly. There's always THAT guy, but generally speaking most seem to have enough awareness of why they had to keep the old safes in the old system.

Like i said, just sad that all the news articles used click bait like "Payday 2 removes micro transactions."
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>>144216790
I'm not disagreeing with you, but from any sort of logical business standpoint that makes no sense.
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>>144216864
Trashly is a shill that gets paid to shit up this thread and try and bribe people into defending Overkill.
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>>144216479
oy oy
can you ask them why the update is 6.4gb
the skills and a hideous ps2 teir model aren't enough to be 6.4gb
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>>144216946

If i wanted to shill why would i come to 4chan? Seriously there's 70 unique posters in 1 thread, that's fuck all.

>>144216845

100% chance to get someone up, only works once every 20 seconds.
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>We own PAYDAY again
>The PAYDAY franchise is ours again
what did he mean by this
i haven't played2pay2day in like a week
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>>144217085

I don't know, they have a new packing system so maybe some of it is that? Not a coder myself so i can't say either way but update 100 and other updates after 100 SHOULD update a lot faster. For me it only took 1-2min with the whole unpacking stuff that usually takes around 15-20min.
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>>144217202
It means they're firing their bosses so they can be lazier and blame all the stupid shit they did on them.
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>>144217132
RIP ez deathwish I have a feeling that I'll be playing on pre 100 patch game
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>>144215461
Any idea when exactly? I've been wanting loot bag ever since I found out about the Red/Black colour combination in it.
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>>144217286
yeah well it don't
on a related note when will more stuff about those two cunts we stole for wick come out
I want more keanu-lite
he's a cute
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>>144217486

5-6 CEST.
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>>144217451
nice sad frog facebook meme faggot
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>>144217753
Fuck I hope my computer will be okay by then; it's been in the shop for like a week. Thanks.
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>>144218058
nice anime cancer meme faggot
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>>144218058
nice cawaii animu gril friend
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>>144218196
Thanks for the (You)
>>144218260
>
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So what exactly did they change with the skills? anything radical? I hope grinder is still ok
I hope they removed technician
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RIP muh build...

Time to start over I guess.
ICTV so slow now.
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>>144218495
With inspire nerfed, you may actually have to put points into nerves of steel or whatever the 50% interact damage resist is. Team nearly gets wiped by two dozers, it's gonna be a lot harder to recover.
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But where is the fucking changelog?
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Anyone crashing whenever they go to the inventory?

I removed IPHLPAPI.dll so it shouldn't be BLT Hook causing it.
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>>144218723
I don't think the ICTV can make the jump on Undercover or Watchdogs Day 1 now.

Not that people play those heists...
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>100% chance to get someone up, only works once every 20 seconds.
>only works once every 20 seconds.
>once every 20 seconds.
>every 20 seconds.
>20 S E C O N D S
holy shit is this true can anyone confirm this?
I really hope I'm getting rused
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>>144219323
I think it should be 15 personally, as bleedout time is 30s, but I can understand why. Inspire was incredibly strong.

Unfortunately, this makes carrying pubs on DW that much harder.
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>>144212172
No, but since you're defending it then it's safe to assume you do.
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>>144219564
Just set your NGBTO to 1,000 hours.
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>>144215689
HOLY SHIT, from the description alone I already thought this was OP as fuck, but in game it's actually even better. You can cross the space between Hoxton's control room on Hoxout D2 and the entrance in fucking seconds, all the way shooting cops in the face with lock n' load, they aren't even fast enough to turn and shoot you in the back as you move.
I'm tempted to try it out with suit (I ran with LBV) and Yakuza's speed buff to see if I can go any faster. Also Inspire basic.
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>>144219802
we FastDay 2 now??? we fastday 2 now??/ can i be fucking SpeedMan again????
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>>144219802
can you be as fast as the minigun i'll take half glitch?
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>>144219802
Okay, tried it out. You can cross the longest line in the safehouse's outdoors area in a little more than a single second. Checked it with Theia scope, that's about 20 meters, meaning you can run about twice as fast as Usain Bolt did when he was declared the fastest man alive.
And that's without using Inspire basic!
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>>144219323
I'd rather have 25% with no cool down. This is going to make playing solo with bots and a turret ridiculous
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>>144220887
>solo with bots
just bring 14 self revives dude xDD
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Was update surprisingly fast for anyone else? It took like 5 minutes to unpack or less
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>>144221580

They changed the unpacking system, update 100 and future updates will install much faster.
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>>144221807
But will have bigger size?
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>>144221807 if >>144221895 is the case, that's a bad trade off, imo
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My update randomly stops downloading and has no disk usage. What do?
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>>144221576
Doesn't keep a bot from wandering in front of a turret and focusing on it, getting downed unless you run away far enough that the bot will follow you. At least they fixed the respawn after the hostage trade so the won't respawn in front of the turret again
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>>144222124
>not having the better bots mod
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>>144222124
disabling bots does
>>144222193
>literally cheating
>needing to cheat after skill rebalance
how shit can u be lad
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>>144222193
Better bots doesnt really fix anything though. Much better way to get around turret is to use "please go there" and goonmod waypoints to force bots to break los.
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>>144222026
I pause and unpause sometimes, it sometimes helps

>>144222193
I do have better bots, doesn't make the bot move out of the line of fire or stronger to take the turret out. It just keeps them from doing the bad flinch.
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>>144222371
>shitter opinions
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>>144222371
Post a video of you playing on death wish with bots disabled, solo, loud.
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>>144222624
>not cheating
>shitter
epic just epic my smart friend
>>144222942
sure heres a random one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k22EqwNZSgQ
pretty old but hope thats okay, i dont consider simply solo loud no bots to be impressive enough to constantly record
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>not using bots as a meatshield while taking down the turret yourself
You have three bots for the three times you need to kill it :^)
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>>144223305
put on a trip uncle tom i wanna filter you
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>we are removing microtransactions soon
>decide to download Payday 2 again after 10 months
>15,5GB download with my shitty 1MB/s connection after I get home from work
>another 6,4GB download starts

They'll never get this shit right, won't they?
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Soooo how much did they fuck up the skills?
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>>144223923
They aren't removing microtransactions.
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>those new sentries
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>>144224270
They are removing the drillers to open safes.
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>>144224326
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>>144224326
metal gear?
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>>144224380
They are not removing drills.
They are not removing the option to buy drills.
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>>144224595
yeah, they just made it unnecessary because safes can be opened without them.
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>>144224595
>>144224270
Fuck off shill
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>>144224380
oh wow that's real fucking neato
Just found out about OK getting the rights, this is a really great thing I never expected to happen.
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>>144224595
But aren't they removing the need for all future safes to need a drill?
It's pretty much the same for me, since I haven't played the game since they introduced this garbage.
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>>144224736
Hey retard
The safes that we got, like Dallas/Bodhi/Wolf/Sydney are STILL GOING TO USE THE DRILLS

But, THE NEW SAFES that they are going to add, aren't going to need drills
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>>144224736
*new safes
All pre-100 safes still require drills.
>>
So is there any good way that I can play as jacket without having to be in full armor?
Turned down graphics, wacky 80s techno music, all I need now is a good build for that hotline feel.
Any suggestions?
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>>144224950
let me guess, the new ones will be more rare and have jack shit inside
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>>144225014
Ask yourself, do you like hurting people? If the answer is yes, put everything into damage output and being fast.
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>>144224950
you dum or sumthin
those safes aren't going to drop anymore.
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>>144225057
>the new ones will be more rare
There will only be the new ones.
>>
what the fuck is this? 6.4gb update and no changelog?
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>>144225224
They still exist.
You can still buy drills for them.
Microtransactions are not being removed.
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>>144225354
Oh
well ok that's neat
>>
>new skill trees
Can anybody give me a tl;dr on the general idea of the new skill trees?
Or where I can look at them.
Will I still be able to play as my old III-100 Techfucker?
http://pd2skills.com/#/v3/mda:eqropklHijEFcDa:tSOmIJeFGcDa:ghEfgCda:fECda:icda:pc8m8A8h8b8s8::w31:s32:
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>>144225758
Nevermind, I just saw the "beta skill tree" button.
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>NuSkill Tree doesn't require money
>Can de-point skills with right mouse click

21 / 10 update right there.
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>>144224380
They are not removing the drill options.

They are just dropping key-less safes like Dota.

If they bring back microtransactions, those safes will be buyable for $2.49 each ;)
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>>144225983
"Beta skill tree" is out of date now that the patch is out. Just wait.
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>>144226102
>money is even more worthless
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>>144226446
More for playing with my guns and filling my vault.

And Safehouse customization!
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>>144226518
Safehouse customization will not require money too IIRC
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>>144226593
Talking about spending cash you bum.
>>
So, is the consensus that Payday 2's publisher was forcing micro transactions, but now that Overkill totally owns Payday they're reverting it?
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just got home
whats the damage report for update 100?
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>>144226894
>So, is the consensus that Payday 2's publisher was forcing micro transactions
There is no consensus.
I'm personally sure that OVK didn't mind it too much, even if 505 came up with the idea.
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>>144226867
Joakim literally said that there is a new system for safehouse customization not connected to money. Are you illiterate or just retarded?
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>>144227198
why would they only revert then when they were granted full control over payday?
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>>144226894
The consensus is that they're you're blaming it on the publisher to try and swerve negative attention from Overkill so DLC sales rise again. And even in discontinuing the MC's they're still making big bucks off market traders buying and selling drills and older safes in panic.
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>>144227380
I mean I get that the consensus is also that Overkill are jews, but is it really hard to believe that at least one thing was out of their control?
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How long until BLT catches up?

Or was there an update during the beta that works with 100?
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>>144227078
Second wind perk makes you sanic
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Alright so
WHAT THE FUCK AM I LOOKING ATholy fuck I'm so confused I might have to give it a fresh look tomorrow I didn't know they were going to flip the skill tress 180 degrees
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>>144199838
NOW
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>>144227680
It's not hard to believe. It's impossible.
>>
Duck and Cover Ace now only gives 10% dodge when sprinting, no dodge bonus when crouching.

Goodbye dodge builds 2015-2016 you will be missed.
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Steam Market

The Sputnik Safe and Drill will not drop in the end of heist Loot Drop
The Bodhi Safe and Drill will not drop in the end of heist Loot Drop
The Wolf Safe and Drill will not drop in the end of heist Loot Drop
The Crimefest 2 Safe and Drill will not drop in the end of heist Loot Drop
The Dallas Safe and Drill will not drop in the end of heist Loot Drop
The Jimmy Safe and Drill will not drop in the end of heist Loot Drop
The Sydney Safe and Drill will not drop in the end of heist Loot Drop

ITS PAYDAY FELLAS
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>>144228095
>Drills now going from a 1% to drop to 0%
>All of the safes currently floating around have to be paid for to open.
b-but they removed microtransactions
>>
> custom safehouse objects won't use money
> they're in the loot drops
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>Have Gun Nut ACED
>My Bronco still got 6 bullets only
Thanks OVK
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>>144228208

>Actually caring about skins

LMAO @ ur life
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Is grinder still the best?
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>>144228095

>Sydney safe already approaching to a dollar
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I stopped playing right after they added microtransactions and made the silenced deagle the best gun in the game. What have I missed since then? What's this I'm hearing about them taking out microtransactions?
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>>144228578
How selfless of Overkill to -remove- microtransactions. They aren't benefiting from this -at all-
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>it's a pattern
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>>144228251
FUCK
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>>144227752
my blt works
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>>144228660
Microtransactions are still in the game. You were lied to. Also your silenced deagle is dead now.
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>>144225203
And what would that be to be effective?
Melee weapons are prefered.
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>>144228578
Shit shit what do I do sell or buy safes??????
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>>144228885

Overkill never lied about this, you just presumed stuff and read misleading stuff in gaming articles.
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>>144228898
All of Brawler tree (minus Counter-Attack) and Infiltrator/Sociopath.
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>>144228885
What exactly does "freeing up the black market" mean then? I get that you'll still be paying for drills for old safes, but is that not removing microtransactions?
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>>144227204
He was probably repeating the line about how none of the Safehouse customisation elements will involve microtransactions or paying for DLCs.
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>>144229237
It means >>144229060 is a lying kike just like Almir. The only free thing is the new safe. Which as far as I know no one has gotten yet.
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Jesus Christ why the hell is everyone arguing over semantics?
Honestly I don't see what people are so arsed about unless half of this is just shitposting.
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>>144228095
>investing in safes
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Are special ammo types still unaffected by Walk in Closet/Full Loaded Ace?
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>>144229237
it means you still can waste your money if you want to, so OVK are fucking cunts and should die in a fire.
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>>144229067
I still have a lot of points leftover then.
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I-I-I just want my old bulid back desu
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>Primary/secondary mask color drops never
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>>144228716
>Boss we were supposed to get cash like valve gambling machine WHY ARENT WE GETTING CASH? IT FUCKED OUR PLAYERBASE INSTEAD
>Lets make the old crates limited so people think they are special snowflakes and they spend tons of cash in things that can anyone use dropping a file in the blt
Nah I'm not going to forgive them any time soon, the lie is still there so the pain will never go.

>>144229060
Not this shit again, you been proved fake tons of times with the steam post and even called shame on us. This shit backfired pretty bad because you though we would be quiet after pumping all the dlcs that made too much pay to win, things were burning that just made it explode.
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>>144229806
if you don't want any armor at all, try investing in Artful Dodger and keep your concealment to a minimum. Due to your squishiness, you will get fucked fairly often and fast, so Stockholm Syndrome might help you out.
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>>144229909
>crying about skins still
just epic

It also never fucked the playerbase
Look at steamcharts
The playercount actually jumped after that update hit, it didn't drop

Way to talk out of your ass fag
>>
There are no new skins in my inventory from the skin unlocker. So despite their gloating about new safes being completely free, new safes don't exist. Update 100 is literally the same but with no more drill or safe drops. It's microtransactions but limited quantity so idiots are going into a frenzy giving them even more money.
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>>144227809
Second wind? Where is that?
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>>144230375
they didn't say new safes would come in this update you dumb faggot

it's for the future

i don't want to defend overkill but at least know what you're talking about
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>>144230206
>Look at steamcharts
less than 10k max still on supposedly THE BIGGEST MOST AWESOMEST UPDATE EVAAAAA FROM JESUS HIMSELF
daed gaem
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>>144230410
Ghost, first perk in the silent killer tree
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>just bought a safe for 20 cents, planning to flip
>can't trade it for another week
what the fuck why
I use your little app valve, let me fucking trade
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>>144230740
Kill yourself.
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>>144230740
Kill yourself.
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>>144230740
Kill yourself.
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>>144230803
>>144230890
rude
is there any way to get around this? I want to fucking sell this.
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>>144229836
What've they done to the builds? Can you not respec anymore?
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>>144230962
Kill yourself
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>>144230740
What safe?
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>>144230803
>>144230890
>>144230957
>>144231029
EPIC xd u sure got me XD!!
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>>144230206
Sure the skins worked just right and people didnt complain about it I mean look at the COP owners, wait no they complained, look at the reviews, ah no MANY negative from people with 1k hours including me, and I check steamcharts sometimes and payday 2 isnt precisely a big one. Dont act like they didnt do anything because they did here is your (you) since seems you want it that badly
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>>144231228
Kill
Yourself
>>
Game died when Goldfarb left desu senpai
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>>144231273
Why are you so buttmad? Is it because I'm being mean to daddy steam?
>>
>Frenzy LBSB Rogue with Clarion/Beagle and every run-fast skill I could afford

Time for the jacket experience
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>>144230984
I have no idea
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>>144231375
Game died in the womb.
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>>144217451
>playing pre 100 update because the game is too "easy"
>game was easy way before this
>still not playing update 78 like me and then crying because no one plays it with you anymore.
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>>144230984
He's probably one of those that are upset that you can't do stuff like going balls deep in Enforcer and get Shotguns, ICTV, Ammo, and Saws for ~half your skill points anymore.

But that's about the only build combination that really took it in the butt point cost wise.
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>Football manager has 50x the player base of payday 2
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>>144232286
Isn't that pokémon simulator always in the top 5 most played games on Steam?
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>Update 100
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>>144229612
Because there's a difference between "We won't charge for safes and drills for now" and "We are abolishing them permanently"
>>
Does a kind anon want to screenshot the Second Wind skill for me and post here? I don't have a computer to check it with right now.
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>>144227369
As a PR stunt?
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>>144232423
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>>144230740
>>144230962
>fell for the SCM meme like a loser
The 7-day trade hold *IS* the benefit of using the Steam Mobile Authenticator.

Otherwise it's 15-days.

Now you're caught up to 2015 Steam Market mechanics.
>>
>>144231926
im going to miss being a cheap fuck by having ICTV, ammo and shotguns, it costs an arm and a leg now, but the skills are generally better
>>
>>144232496
There's money in it for them too. This isn't solving an issue. This is tricking idiots into coming back and giving them more money while tricking bigger idiots into giving them even more money than they already were.
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>update 100
>on the surface looks like it's making skins more accessible and free
>no drills means more opened safes
>more opened safes means more items on sale on the market

Almir is truly the greatest merchant
>>
Fuck all these skills are sweet. I cant decide i just want them all.
screw that im gonna be tank with lmg just showering everything
>>
I spent the last two days testing this update before it came out due to having loads of stuff to have to test for this update. They asked if i wanted anything for helping, so i asked for some sydney codes. Long story short, join /pdg/ chatroom for a free sydney code. Got like 6 left.
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>>144229658
Send help. The descriptions don't say anything anymore but I still assume so.
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>>144234101
>>
I really wish there were an option to reload your sentry guns without having to pickup/redeploy them.
>>
>>144234101
no ur not
>>
>>144232343
last years version still has more players
>>
>>144235612

Yes i am, nobody is pming me so...
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>>144236070
nobody plays this game anymore so....
>>
>>144236170
why are you on this general then?
>>
>>144236291
why does anyone come to the general of a dead game?

To make fun of how shit it is and laugh at the gullibility of people who buy into it
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>>144236291
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>>144236070
why we gotta pm u just post em in chat
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GUYS IM GETTING WORRIED PEOPLE AREN'T COMING BACK IN THE NUMBERS WE THOUGHT THEY WOULD
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>>144219314
Can confirm my buddy with an ICTV couldn't make the Undercover jump, there was an AC on the side of the building he had to use to make it
>>
>>144236291
18 more months of achievement whoring...
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Any advice on new armor builds?
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>>144237906
>uninstall game
>buy AR 500 plate with the money you save
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>>144235612
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>>144238082
hey I'm in this pic
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>>144236965
Just curious amigo. Please don't think so highly of yourself. ;)
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Why am I having so much fun with 4 AP mode silenced sentries+ammo bag loadout.
>>
which trip is the real Trashly?
!!4zpFQher16n or !V0lQvE30nA
>>
>>144238508
>curious about an anonymous persons intentions on shitposting

>not lead of damage control division
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>>144238742
The former. The latter was the previous trip, which got cracked.
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>>144238742
There are not enough dicks in me
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>>144239227
i thought u were a transbian
>>
>>144239227

That i can confirm.
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any of this shit worth anything im too lazy to player econony
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>>144239306
gay 4 dicks br0
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>>144239320
ok sorry about >>144239306 i got my /vg/ trannies mixed up
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WHY IS THE PLAYER COUNT STILL DROPPING?
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>>144238917
i wish i got paid T_T
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>>144237997
I forgot to add inb4: idiots who hate the game but still stay around to shitpost.
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>>144240032
think before you post next time senpai
>>
so what's the purpose of stealth sentries
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>>144240183
I think the cops don't shoot at them as much.
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>>144240183
They draw less attention so they get attacked yet
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>>144240032
In after mad shills upset people that aren't drones stuck around to warn returning players away.
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>>144240032
the general wouldn't survive an hour without us

be more appreciative
>>
>>144239791
>he does it for free
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>>144239710
PLEASE STOP ITS ALREADY DEAD
>>
>>144232612
Probably one of the best skills in the game, really no reason not to grab at least basic for most builds.

It gets fucking nuts with suit builds because you can basically constantly apply the speed boost to your whole team with Bullseye
>>
payday 2 player counts
https://youtu.be/p13YWNJc34o?t=1m5s
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>>144240382
>warn returning players away
Never understood this fucking idiots, So you don't like this game, ok completely acceptable. But why the fuck do you feel the need to shitpost about it all the time? Do you realy think that litterally every single person shares your tastes and and only can be saved from this horror by you and your shitposting? Again, if you hate this game so much why the fuck are you still here?
>>
>>144242565
>>144236965
>>
>>144242565
>s-stop I don't want trashly to leave before I get my sydney code
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>>144242565
blame overkill, it was their business plan that polarized the player base

even if the people shitposting are fucking idiots it all started with them
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>>144242661
I've being on 4chan for about 6 years, i have no more emotions left.
>>144242790
Could not care less.
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>>144243042
>I've being on 4chan for about 6 years
new fag alert
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>>144243098
>new fag
Sadly no, hell i predate baneposting.
>>
>6 year old talking big
lol
>>
>>144243210
>i predate baneposting.
so your saying youre a big guy?
>>
>>144243042
>>144243098
>I've been here for maybe ten years

What the fuck is wrong with me.
>>
>>144243210
was getting mad part of your plan?
>>
>>144243210
That would be extremely prideful
>>
>>144243512
You're not an oldfag until you've been here longer than moot.
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>>144243512
What part of "You're here forever" did you not understand.
>>
>>144243330
>>144243541
>>144243630
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>>144243784
>>144243790
Yeah but still

Fuck, man

I spent over two or three years on /b/ of all places

Does anybody remember like, Halloween '06 or '07? When it was all black and playing spooky ambience and /b/ was changed to 'Tannasin'? I liked that a lot.
>>
>>144243210
if i shitposted again would you die?
>>
>>144244119
>trying this hard to be a big guy
>>
>>144243330
for (You)

>>144244285
for (You)
>>
>>144228578
>tfw I already sold it for 0.10 a week ago
oh well
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>>144244609
wew thanks now i can stop
>>
anyone know what the fuck happened to my increased stamina power for you and crew on the controller tree? that stamina fucking matters for running around
>>
Guys this is serious. I'm super nervous. The player count is still dropping and I blew my whole bonus buying 2500 safes.

What if no one wants to buy them?

This was gunna be my retirement fund.
>>
>>144245032
Pretty sure it's a base skill now
>>
>>144245032
Base skill.

As far as I can know, anything from the old tree you can't find is just a regular thing we all have now

Dom basic, akimbo, shinobi aced, etc.
>>
>>144245226
The only advice I can give you is kill yourself
>>
>Payday no longer has microtransactions

DADDY'S BACK MOTHERFUCKERS

What's the new meta? did they nerf dodge or anything? Is Grinder still gud?
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>>144245762
iirc Grinder got nerfed a while back but not massively. Muscle got buffed with steady health regen. Dunno about dodge.

Fun is the new meta.
>>
Is dodge dead?
>>
>>144245762
There are still technically microtransactions, but no more will be developed.

Dodge is a bit stronger I think(?), Grinder got nerfed, still probably usable.
>>
>>144245762
>>Payday no longer has microtransactions


but.... it does
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>>144245762
There are still microtransactions. Shill elsewhere Trashly.
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>>144245973
>m-muh payday still has microtransactions

Technically it does but only for old safes you mongoloid
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>>144246103
so you're saying im right?
>>
>>144246103
Trash Trash go away do not come again another day
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>>144245973
>>144246016
>>144246103
People would be fucking furious if the old safes were suddenly free to open, don't you think? At least the dumbasses who actually bothered to buy drills would be.
>>
we dont actually know if there wont be other microTx just that new safes won't have microTx drills
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>>144246235
Trashly
>>>/out/
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>>144246103
mongoloid is a racist slur you shitlord

be more considerate
>>
>>144245883
sounds good might use that now

>>144245953
yeah thats the only thing, as long as they don't push that shit constantly im good' the old safes can fuck off.

>>144246016
>>144246230
Is trashly some new tripfag or something?
>>
>>144246476
Steam mod that like to suck cocks and give free DLC in the chat
>>
Anyone else crashing in game?
>>
GUN NUT BASIC DOESN’T APPLY TO REVOLVERS EVEN WHEN IT USED TO DO IN THE BETA
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>>144246565
He actually prefers to be facefucked.
>>
>>144246632
WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>144246357
No, fuck off with the 'everyone who doesn't agree with me is Ashley' shit and think about it for five seconds.

I'm not going to say that Overkill would have jumped at the idea of making the old safes free to open at all, but imagine if you were the kind of fucking retard that actually bought drills for the safes you got. And you flushed a bunch of money down the drain and then they suddenly make the old safes completely free to open.

That would be just a different kind of bullshit than what we put up with.
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>>144246235
People were and are fucking furious that they were ever added and still haven't been removed, dumbass.
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>>144246706
Go home.
>>>/lgbt/
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>>144246476
Jesus, sounds like the community still has its delinquents, has TRIBES been banned yet? or is he still calling everyone without a mic a nigger?
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>>144246706
>Imagine if you were the kind of fucking retard that actually bought drills for the safes you got
If I were such a person obviously I'd support whatever Overkill decided to do BECAUSE I'M A RETARD WHO SUPPORTED THEIR DECISION TO SCREW ME IN THE FIRST PLACE
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>>144246892
meant for
>>144246565
>>
>player count steadily decreasing
>>
>>144247048
>Player count of a single day mattering.
When there's a massive decline over a week or month then it's something to celebrate about.
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>>144247048
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>Can shout crew up
>Deploy extra doctors bags
>Can also carry cupcakes with doctors bags
>Automatically shit them into a crewmember's mouth of they are close enough
>Wear the heaviest armor in the game
>Run fast with it anyway
>Become a one shot nightmare with assault rifles
>Sprint for days
>Armor regen delay short as fuck and regens rapidly
>Still have 20 points to spend
>Don't even have to commit to this build

What the fuck are they doing with these skills?
>>
>>144247186
>Player count of a single day mattering.
On what's supposed to be the most important update in a while? Yes, there should be a jump today, even if it's a transitory one. The fact that there isn't means the slow decline of the game is guaranteed to continue.
>>
>>144247186
it does when this was supposed to be the update that brought everyone back
>>
>>144247340
>>144247381
>the update was so shitty and lackluster that I forgot it happened
Well then. I rescind my point.
>>
>>144247275
They decided it's time for fun, apparently.

The Steakout has never been better now that you can just shoot shields and knock them back to kill them with a second shot.
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>>144247509
>The Steakout has never been better now
Abandoned your bow that quickly huh
>>
>>144247509
>They decided it's time for fun
shouldnt that have been the goal the whole time?
>>
The dlc unlocker work with the new update?
>>
>>144247841
finally someone asks a legitimate question
>>
>>144247509

If you're using shotguns just one-shot them with the HE Judge
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>>144247841
DLC and skin.
>>
>>144247602
Still using it

I can't hit LB/SB concealment with any other primary while using 80's Calling'd Jacket's Piece
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>>144247970
I don't want to aim, I just want to aim vaugely at a group of cops, hold the trigger, and watch them all fall over.
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>player count still going down during primetime
>>
What the fuck did they do to the skills
I just want to be a tanky fuck who deals no damage except with a shotgun
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>>144248631
the skills are fine just work your way up the trees you want
>>
>>144248631
You can. Only now you can be a tanky fuck with a shotgun that ejaculates ammo, health packs, rapid drills, saws, and shouts people up now.
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>>144248854
seems like they fixed the balance issues then
>>
HERE WE GO BOYS

TODAY'S THE DAY

THE UPDATE THAT FIXES THE GAME

>peak players less than 10k

well then...
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>Can now deploy 4 shielded, high health, high damage, armor/shield piercing, repairable, low attention sentries

Does that mean we can deploy sixteen fucking turrets with a crew of four? Anyone want to go cook a couple hundred bags of meth on deathwish? I'm serious. Anyone want to just fucking sentry up and cook some meth?
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>>144249579
Sixteen sentries and eight buff jokered cops

The AFK build
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>>144249579
>sit and listen to bane fuck around on google for hours while doing nothing
>fun game
>>
>>144249701
everything needed a nerf or straight removal from the game and instead they made everyone superman

bravoverkill
>>
>>144248854
Yeah I just noticed I can be sonic with an ICTV and also be the best tank because of dmg reduction
at least I can melee drills for a 50% chance of them restarting
wow
>>
>can finally disable AA

mmm
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>>144100502
>Biker

Can someone confirm?
>>
>>144250368
We getting a new characther that is a biker, if it's the biker from hotline miami it's another story, people are saying that could the guy from l4d or some guy from walking dead
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>>144250368
>being interested in ANOTHER heister
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>>144249396
you know why?
>responsible adult gets home from work
>6.4 gig download
>wife wants to watch netflix
>welp, guess this download is running overnight

not even playing until this weekend, bro.
>>
>>144250953
>you know why?
yep its a shit update and people aren't falling for it
>>
>>144250953
>Implying responsible adults with wives would waste their down time playing this shit game.
>>
>>144250368
yep

perk deck grants you the ability to spawn a bike that you can ride

;)
>>
>>144251247
VROOM
VROOM
VROOM
>>
Have you guys ever tried to get back together with the ex you lied to and fucked over???

It didn't work?

Weird.....
>>
>>144251629
>itll be different this time baby, I promise!
>>
>>144251247
If you autospawned a forklift equivalent with it, it would be the only deck I ever use.
I'd drive around the lobby of the FBI on hoxout 2 and not even give a fuck
>>
>>144251790
>I'm not on the 505 anymore! I'm a totally new person!
>>
>>144251992
>I really thought about the things you said to me and I realized you were totally right! Soooooooo..... you wanna bang or what?
>>
Is the new nade any good?
>>
>>144252821
All she said was fuck you and hung up the phone?

What a petty bitch!
>>
>>144252823
Same shit as the other one
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So is the KSG the best shotgun primary?
What ammo types are good now? The At Range Enforcer perks makes the alternates(other than 000 buck) look good now,
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>>144215689
gotta go fast
>>
Berserker Ace gives +100% ranged dmg boost when HP is below 50%.
Frenzy reduces HP to 30%.

If I take Frenzy, will Berskerer always be active?
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>Jack of All Trades
>4 Silenced Sentries
>2 unsilenced sentries
Feels good
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>>144255196
Frenzy is on the Berserker skill tree, what the fuck do you think?
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>>144256915
Not him but it might be 50% of 30%.
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>>144257141
no
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>>144256665
Oh shit.
>>144249579
>>144249661

So now we're looking at 24 deployed sentries and 8 buffed joker cops.
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>>144257280
>So now we're looking at 24 deployed sentries and 8 buffed joker cops

for balance reasons
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>>144255196
Yeah, with all the other medic boosts and being able to boost other crew members it really fucks up the 'DONT HEAL ME AFTER RAISING ME' thing, so they threw in a skill that just locks you at 30%
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>>144242565
I haven't played the game in almost two years, and I still get more than enough entertainment out of watching this piece of shit fail over and over again. Never before or since, have I seen a game be completely destroyed by it's own developers. It's utterly fascinating.
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>>144257280
Someone do this and post webm
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Why is Baby Deagle better than the regular Deagle?
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>>144165262
does anybody have me covered here
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>>144258494
Yes, also, try the White Streak
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>Oyveyshills shitposting in the newly resurrected /kfg/
this goys thinking microtransactions aren't gone. it's like anudda shoah.
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>>144259198
>newly resurrected /kfg/
for what purpose
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>>144259330
same purpose that /pdg/ is still around
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>>144258494
Because one is free and the other isn't.
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>>144259670
PD2 just had a big update, KF2 is staying tuned, there is no reason to revive kfg yet
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>>144257280
>24 deployed sentries and 8 buffed joker cops

Oh god. Post steam IDs. Lets try this.
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>>144233761
>More items on the market means more saturation
>Saturation means lower prices
>Skin buying population still small as shit
>Same few buyers now paying less for skins

Sounds like a bad plan to make shekels. Especially since now there's not price to gamble on opening a safe, players are probably going to hold out longer on buying skins because they will be opening more safes and getting skins.
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>>144258494
Deagle hits 100 accuracy much easier than Beagle and has a mag extension.
Since the beta went live I honestly don't remember what advantages the Beagle has over the Deagle since both of their fire rates are in the ground now and neither had much damage discrepancies
Wear and compare nigga
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>>144260085
>PD2 just had a big update
You mean the beta everyone was already in getting more nerfs and a community grenade getting passed out when everyone either bought the DLC or has a unlocker by now? Yeah real big update. Oh wait how could I forget that they TOTALLY COMPLETELY REMOVED MICROTRANSACTIONS FOREVER. OVERKILL=OVERGOD
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>>144260671
Game gets influx of normies who didn't play the beta
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>>144260875
Oh boy the people that were too stupid to figure out how to opt into the beta are now in the pub scene again. Joyous occasion.
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>>144261051
The people who also aren't bitter fagots like yourself.
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Yo Trashley, do you have any wild west keys? I just wanna be a cowboy
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Where is the celebratory sale?
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>>144261346
Good talk son.
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>>144261427
post dic pics, cowboy
assless chaps required
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>>144261427
Show me your big iron first.
>>144261549
It doesn't exist.
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>>144261549
Steam sale is 3 weeks away
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>>144261549
100% off sale for 100th update
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>>144261754
>payday rep soliciting nudes from me in exchange for keys
i feel like i need the police
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>>144262695
thats probably the fake Trashly but if you post dick pics anyway the real Trashly might comply
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>>144262695
Wrong tripcode you fucking idiot.
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>>144262695
I am the police.
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>>144262908
>bullying me for not memorizing tripcodes in one of the 7 generals i frequent
wew
>>144262842
i need her(?) to confirm that
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>>144263268
>frequent 7 generals
slut
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>>144263386
not enough of a slut to post dick pic, though
must not want that cowboy code after all
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>>144264090
dont think im above it, i just want confirmations i get to be a cowboy after
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>>144145308
>FWB Money Bag DW
>$7,500

That's only the required bags, dipshit. The extras are worth far more.
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Are converted cops good yet? I like the idea of having a pet cop, but the last time i used them they would stuck randomly and don't move
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>>144264704
You will surely get the cowboy dlc
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>>144264742
Don't waste your energy.
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>>144264825
That's a best case scenario man. You get all the bonuses from keeping a hostage converted without them getting killed. The heister bots are there to be your meat shields.
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>8 extra points in my techforcer build
fug I don't know where to put these
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What happened to Fast Hands? Is that baseline now? And am I wrong in assuming I can use charges to blow safes without speccing now?
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>>144267761
Anything you don't see as a skill is baseline now
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>>144268102
Seems like interacting is slow, though. I'm wondering if they baked it in or if they just took it out. I didn't see it anywhere but I could just be retarded.
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DEAR GOD I MOVE AT THE SPEED OF SOUND NOW
LIKE I'M A FUCKING BLUE HEDGEHOG OR SOME SHIT
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>>144268102
Except SMG specialist.
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>>144268579
Can you outrun a player in a car on car shops heist? That would be hilarious if you can.
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I have some questions.
Is trashly = ashley?
Why does leo have nerfed firerate/where can I find weaponinfo spreadsheets? (I mainly want ammo pickup spreadsheets)
What is the current meta?
What memes did I miss out on since crimefest 2?
What DLC (past yakuza character pack) is good?
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>>144250730
I'm interested in another perk deck.
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>>144255196
>Berserker Ace gives +100% ranged dmg boost when HP is below 50%.

Does it? It said 'up to' in the beta.
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>>144269828
>Yes
>Have fun
>Literally having fun
>No memes
PointBreak and WOLF Pack,
If you don't have already Wolf Pack for PD:TH, go and get it since you get the WOLF Pack for PD2 for free if you have the one of PD:TH, but, PD:TH is more expensive also

>Implying that you own PD:TH
>Implying that you are going to play it
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>>144255196
Yes. Your multiplier will always be at least +40% for guns if you have Frenzy. Wanted to run Berserker with Infiltrator? now you can.

>>144270207
I think it's still an up to.

On the bright side, on Deathwish you'll always revive with enough health to have a 90%-ish multiplier and you might actually survive a shot or two (if your armour breaks) with Frenzy.
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>>144270459
>No memes
WE HAVE A HOSTAGE SITUATION
TELL ME THE MEMES I MISSED, I KNOW YOU'RE HOLDING OUT ON ME.

>Implying that you own PD:TH
I got a 4pack of that game for like 5 bucks a year ago.
>Implying that you are going to play it
Probably not.

But if it goes on sale (25%) from $10 to $7.25, I get the dlc for both versions for the same price

Also, you dodged my question about weapon spreadsheets, GIVE EM UP, CLOWN.
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Okay body expertise with dire need, SK and whatever skill lets you shoot through armor is very strong you don't need to aim anymore
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>>144270459
>go and get it since you get the WOLF Pack for PD2 for free if you have the one of PD:TH
Is that actually true?

I thought it was issued for free to PD:TH Wolf Pack owners but there was no clarification on whether it'll be applied to future buyers of the PD:TH Wolf Pack DLC.
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>new skills
what the fuck

bulletproof is gone
the shotgun skills have changed
how do I shotgun techforcer now, please help I don't know the new meta
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>>144274002
>bulletproof is gone
Moved to the Enforcer tree.

read the fucking patch notes for once.
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>>144274002
Take shotgun skills, use 000 buck since it no longer has less ammo and the pickup it's normal, and bulletproof is now on iron man basic
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>>144274137
>>144274204
Does diehard work with ICTV? I'd assume not unless they changed it.
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http://beta.pd2skills.com/#/v3/eaCDEfGhIKLnqr:gjl:pM8a0:::

This is what I have so far. Send help.
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>>144275917
http://beta.pd2skills.com/#/v3/mACdEf:eaCDEfGhIKLnqr:gJlr:pM8a0:::
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has anyone done this image but with like dallas and wolf masks or what
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>>144268579
Faster than the minigun glitch?
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>>144277001
Minigun glitch wasn't that fast and cars could outrun you and that glitch was fixed really quick

t. Someone that tried to race against a car
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IS Payday 2 good now? Can I reinstall it?
>>
Somewhat new player here. Is there a picture or some other collection of tips for beginners?

I'm checking out the Long Guide now, but it's pretty technical for the moment.
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>>144277486
Coming from someone who just reinstalled, there's a lot of stuff to check out since crimefest 2.

make your own decision, it seems the beast is dead
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>>144277673
As long as it fixes the "host just rushes in Leroy Jenkins style, get downed while triggering the alarm, and then ragequit, disconnecting everyone", I'm okay.
Bullshit of that kind is why I quit the game the first time.

That, and "hurr what is stealth".
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>>144277853
>"host just rushes in Leroy Jenkins style, get downed while triggering the alarm, and then ragequit, disconnecting everyone"
Shit still happens, literally pubs m8, well, the ones that still are here

>That, and "hurr what is stealth".
>Stealth shitters
>Ever
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>>144278072
Stopping the installation as we speak.

I'll just reinstall Thief or something to get my stealth game with less retarded hosts.
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>>144278243
Try to have fucking fun, you might find out a meme while you pub

You can heist with the people of /pdg/, literally ask for people like "HEY FAGGOTS WHO IS UP FOR ORIGINAL HEISTERS, NEED 3 GUYS" and shit is done

OR, host your own game
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>>144278450
>original heisters
What?
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>>144278713
Achievement
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>Can now, with only first tier skills, get both the AK7.62 and Falcon and probably others too up to 85+ damage, 96 acc and 100 stab
Was this intentional?
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>weapons drop are still random
>kep getting shotguns
Fuck this game.
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>>144279703
>Dropping weapon mods
Shitter
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>>144245405
Not everything. Lurk more.
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I never thought I'd legitimately say this EVER.

fucking TURRETS are the new meta.
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>>144260875
>>144261051
non-beta was some of the tightest pd2 ive played in years

>FF DW with 4 players
>jew store in/outs with pubs
>carry last 4 bags out in watchdogs with no discussion
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>>144224326
Shit. They seem to be a lot bigger than the normal sentries. Gotta update the sentry guide now if they cant fit in the normal spots.
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>>144224326
Fucking why? I realize some people had issues with the old sentries, but at least they looked like something you could actually fit in a messenger bag.
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>>144224326
concealment is a joke
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>>144288593
Nvm, it still seem to be working. Even though sentries are now a viable thing.
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So, I've been trying to make a melee build viable for all OK, and HOPEFULLY some DW heists.
So far it's still pretty damn rough, but you need sneaky bastard and shock proof from ghost, inspire from mastermind, shock and awe from enforcer, and messiah, feign death, and most of the Brawler tree from fugitive (though do NOT ace berserkser).
I've tried a few perk decks now, and seems the only options for being able to stay alive are sociopath (2 second cooldown on melee health regen, instead of infiltrator's 10 second) or grinder (1.5 second cooldown, but it seems to be slightly less healing, and it's the only perk while sociopath has the "enemies nearby stop shooting at you" thing).
It's viable in OK, but only for fun; it's not a carry build like inspire/silent killer/dodge/pistol damage.
If you're caught out at range, you can easily kill people with whatever gun you bring, but you have 0 defenses. What you need to do to stay alive is literally through yourself at enemies slashing for constant heals. On overkill, a group of enemies will kill you in a couple seconds of focus fire, so you need to be CONSTANTLY moving and slashing to dodge and heal through it. On deathwish you basically get killed by a single burst from a single enemy, so it's only viable on very very small maps where you can constantly hide around corners, jump out and slash niggas, and hide again.

Anybody have any good ideas for improvement?
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>Havent played this game since like last crimefest
>theres driving and shit now
>something about new and old gen safes
>like 3 more characters

So people dont just grind firestarter with car-4's anymore?
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>>144292536
meme-4 might not be meta but it sure is fun
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Im reinstalling now just for shits and giggles, i got tired of all the jewish tricks and the paid skins with stat boosts made me uninstall.

No idea if my Meme-4 still holds up or whatever.
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Is any of the DLC from the Alesso hiest and onwards good? Should i get sydney or the wolf pack or anything?

Also this general seems a lot deader than it used to be so i guess a lot of people dropped this shit.
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>>144292665

>low damage and low ROF
>fun

Fun is going full sanic while using a shotgun build
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I don't know whether I like or hate the new skilltrees.
But either way I have been busy trying to remake my killwhore build, feels weird not needing to go Techforcer and I am not entirely sure about the fugitive skills since they sound good in theory but might be shit when I actually play
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To celebrate update 100, i'll be in the chat today giving away some free codes. Out of Sydney codes again though.
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>>144292946
>Is any of the DLC from the Alesso hiest and onwards good? Should i get sydney or the wolf pack or anything?
GGC was okay for a while but stealth is a hassle (a lot of foot traffic to keep track of) and the map invariably lags on loud.
Sokol pack is a mixed bag. Used to have the best AR in the game, but after rebalances perk deck is the only reason to get it.
Ninja pack adds best sniper, which doesn't mean much since snipers are all garbage. Ninja stars are fun and Kunia useful, but not worth price of admission on their own. SMG is not noteworthy and pistol bow insultingly bad.
Yakuza pack is only worthwhile for katana. I liked the smg too but its nothing impressive, just looks cool.
Chivalry pack is middle finger to you and everyone you've ever cared about. If you have the bow from the western pack there is zero reason to touch this.
Point break used to be good, but then they gave everyone a free carbon copy of the pistol, plus the new beta has murdered the fire rate, so its not worth it now. Ice axe was good, but not worth the cost.
Goat heist: shit. Get it if you want a better looking but worse performing loco. Otherwise, don't touch.
Wolf heist is free, the GL is a great secondary.
Sydney is shit. Shit character, shit melee, shit gun, average perk deck (build dependent)
>Also this general seems a lot deader than it used to be so i guess a lot of people dropped this shit.
Yes.
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>>144293843
>Wolf heist is free.
If u bought it for pdth
>shit melee
They fixed consealment, so it's just a knife with nice animations
>average perk deck
Anarchist is so damn op. Just like grinder when sokol was released
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>>144293274
What perk deck are you running? from my experience Frenzy works fantastically with Maniac and Infiltrator.
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>>144278243
>stealth
>with pubs

Shit nigga just solo stealth it, then you have no one to blame but yourself.

Loud is way more fun to do with other people anyway.
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>>144291296
If you are using sociopath instead of grinder, why don't you try armor instead of dodge?
Or you want to be a glass canon like Jacket in HM? If so, congrats, there's not much more you can do.
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>>144293274

If you're going to pure kills i'd suggest shotguns with a berserk build and tank skills. Shotguns will make headshots easy and quick, working with bullseye aced. Tank skills will give you more pushing power and beserker aced with frenzy will give your shotguns insane range.

The shotgun drop off system changed so that you lose X damage at X distance instead of working by %. That means higher damage shotguns have longer range.

If shotguns are not your thing, pistols, if not that then go for silencer bonuses on ghost for AR's.
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>>144294504
Sociopath but I was thinking of dropping frenzy and maybe beserker since I only got them since I had spare skillpoints that I didn't know where to put them
My original Idea with the new build was to stack bullseye's headshot armour regen with Sociopath's along with all the me lee stuff from the brawler tree to become basically an unkillable rape train of death
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>>144294836
Actually all shotguns have the same range profiles.

Max damage is kept for 10 meters and after that, begins to linearly drop from max damage to 0 ending at 20 meters.
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>>144295149

You certain? I've been able to kill snipers at extreme range with the pump actions without using fletchette.
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>>144294836
>The shotgun drop off system changed so that you lose X damage at X distance instead of working by %. That means higher damage shotguns have longer range.

So do flechettes lose less damage at longer ranges than 000?
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>>144295382
>I've been able to kill snipers at extreme range

How extreme? Which map? Are we talking the dudes on the roofs at GO Bank kind of extreme? The cops on the hills of either train heist?
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>>144295641

Apparently i'm wrong but i do know that flechettes add uh i think double range before damage drop off begins.
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>>144294759
Armor means SLOW, and slow is 100% against fun and melee.
Melee doesn't play well with dodge, which sucks, but it's just no fun at all with armor.
Unless somehow midrange suddenly because viable? Is light armor with skills viable? Or is it still ICTV or dodge only?
I've been having quite a bit of fun with melee, but it really is fucking awful for staying alive. Glass cannon to the core, I get wrecked by fucking overkill mooks if I either get unlucky or stop moving for a millisecond.
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>>144295858
>Armor means SLOW, and slow is 100% against fun and melee.

Apparently you live in this strange world where there are only suits or ICTV, and nothing in between.
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>>144295858
I personally use LBV no matter of build, it works fine with armor skills, and you still can be pretty fast.
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>>144295724
It's RNG, nigga. I've gotten lucky and killed snipers on fucking meltdown a goddamn mile away, but I've also missed snipers up on a ledge I'm literally at the base of. Just gotta be a lucky cunt.
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>join DW
>already have three people with Inspire
>some guy wants me to leave to get inspire then rejoin
Now I remember why I play overkill exclusively too many people telling others how to play in DW and that is a huge anger button for me
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>>144295961
Well, when I played gayday 2 regularly, everything between suit and ICTV was fucking useless, so I'm still kind of stuck in that mentality.
Granted, I'm mostly talking about DW and harder OK heists, most OK heists are doable with fucking no skills, let alone any actual build.
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>>144296108
LBV crook with tank skills is gr8
136 armor, 40 doge when not sprinting/crouching
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>>144296146
Well why don't you have inspire? It's one of the best skills in the game, really.
It's the go-to "carry shitters" skill, and with gayday 2's community I throw it on any build ever to make sure I can carry people without them just leaving because they went into custody.
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>>144296146
>>144296356
Inspire has a cooldown now though.
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>>144296279
>Well, when I played gayday 2 regularly, everything between suit and ICTV was fucking useless, so I'm still kind of stuck in that mentality.

Get out of that mentality now. There are skills and perks that boost only vests. I'm running a build that uses a heavy vest and I've got almost as much armor as a base ICTV, a bit of dodge, but I'm a whole hell of a lot faster.
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>>144296417
Good point, it did get nerfed to shit.
It's still really good, though. The nerf basically just effects situations where two nignogs go down at the same time, or one nignog goes down the second you revive him. So long as it's just one decent nignog dying, you can still easily revive them before; and with a FAST build you can revive niggers from across the whole map if they go down.
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>>144296534
We had two inspires and carried stealth-builded idiots for 13 minutes on BB DW.
So it's still very powerfull.
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>>144295747
>Overkill employee doesn't know what they're talking about.
wow what a surprise
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>>144296534
At least aced painkillers give a shitton of damage reduction now along with combat medic giving you damage reduction while you get someone up.
>>
What's up with shape charges and trip mines? Do they have separate uses now?
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welp the game is offically broken for me,
I have not been able to complete a single heist since the update since every single time the game will freeze for like 5 seconds then "connection to host has been lost"
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>>144297936
Host yourself? No? Too hard?
>>
Anyone else having issues with cheevos?
I never had the patience for those tedious presidential mask ones, but about a week ago I decided to finally get them out of the way. I was halfway through the one where you have to kill 69 snipers with the 553 AR while wearing the Nixon mask when I downloaded update 100 and now it appears its stopped tracking my kills, which is fucking irritating since I must have killed 150 by now.
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>>144298037
I tried but I think other people keep losing connection to me as well
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Holy fuck, I haven't had this much fun using shotguns in ages. The skill redo is pretty great.
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>>144297936
Played a few heists with my friend, he only got disconnected once while I was loading the 2nd day of Goat Sim.
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>>144298771
What's your build like? I too I am trying to have me some shotty fun.
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>>144298993
Not him but full accuracy (~70 accuracy) raven and HE judge
you have 13 points left so if you want berserker or drill skills or whatever you want then pick that.
Anarchist suit. You will never die.
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>>144298657
Fix your internet then
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>>144299481
>Anarchist
Ah Sidney.
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>>144299485
>works fine on my end lol
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>>144298993
Saiga with all shotgun skills is fucking nuts. Acing the entire tree is overdoing it, but Overkill+Far Away is hilarious.
Also, dat weapon swap speed.
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>>144299481
anarchist is better with lbv since non rogue suit was kill
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Is using Crew Chief perks redundant if I have mostly Mastermind (Medic & Controller) skills?
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If you want to run dodge builds do you have to run rogue or crook now? Is grinder viable at all?
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>>144300662
Kill yourself and find out yourself
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>>144300362
hm ye, 5% extra dodge vs ~40 extra armor. Doesn't really matter in the end.
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>>144300662
use anarchist, you can stand to lose a bit of dodge for a fuckload of armour
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>>144302073
Kill yourself
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>>144250654
I'm 99% sure its not biker from Hotline Miami. The bike at the end of the E3 trailer sounds like a Harley Davidson motorcycle and not at all like the street bike Biker drives.
Also the stereotype Dragan describes is the "my dad" biker with leather jackets and that one episode of south park
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>>144303793
You can see his bike in the corner of the 100 update art
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>>144300731
>>144303710
I am sensing some hostility. I can't try anything because the game keeps crashing when I play multiplayer.
>inb4 kill yourself reply
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What weapons does everyone use?

I still got the starting AR for everything.
Silenced starting pistol for stealth and Bronco for others.
Telescopic baton for melee.
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>>144303925
Cease your life my man
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>>144303793
>Also the stereotype Dragan describes is the "my dad" biker with leather jackets and that one episode of south park
So a fag then?
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>>144250654
>people are saying that could the guy from l4d
could be Francis from L4D would be interesting, especially if they also bring back the L4D crossover heist from the first game as well
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>>144279703
Grind more jew stores.
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>>144257280
I did this yesterday, but the joker cops weren't very useful, hostiles died the instant they came in range of the sentry nest so you had to stick your head out the window, shout at people with a high threat gun, as then run outside with no cover to convert which was near suicidal because you weren't clearing any of the cops outside. If you did actually get someone then it was a crapshoot whether or not they actually followed you into the house or stayed outside and died 15 seconds later. Even if you did get someone inside they didn't really do much since the sentries had enough firepower by themselves. It's still useful to double up on some very large maps, but on cook out it's less than stellar.
>>
why cant i get good
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>>144305278
You could've just stayed inside the nest, or just fired your gun.

The cops generally path towards you even if you don't aggro them (which is why sentry glitches are a thing).
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>>144303793
maybe its a KF2 collab with the biker then? He's constatnyl saying he earned more back as a mechanic.
>>
Counter Strike basic works on Shields and Dozers, right?

Ace is only needed for Cloaker Kick?
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>>144305769
Sure, you can stay inside no problems, I'm saying that joker isn't very good with sentry camping because the cops run in and die instantly, meaning that you need to leave your sentry nest in order to convert.
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>>144297021
Yes. They're two entirely separate things now, and amount is tracked seperately.
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>>144307202
Oh right, sorry.
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>Everyone theorizing the biker to be a crossover for L4D, TWD or KF2
Fuckin hope not, HM2 was okay but most collabs have been absolute shit. Id rather Ovk actually made some OC instead of aping some other IP.
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>>144297936
Backup save file and Reinstall
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>>144307304
>Id rather Ovk actually made some OC
Because that always goes so well?
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I've been away from the game for more than a year. Any weapon DLC's that are absolutely essential? All I've got is the Wolf Pack, Armored Transport and the first two gage weapon pack things. Should I bother with anything else?
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>>144307304
Quick someone post original artwork of sydney
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The number of fake "I haven't played since 1986 wahts good nigga" posts needs to go down.
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>>144307304
Were the collabs because of overkill or starbreeze?
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>>144307701
I can't speak for all the others, but mine is real. Now tell me what's good Hoxilicious.
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>>144307747
505 is the scapegoat Overshills are blaming.
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>trashly is now officially a overshill
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>>144307701
It would seem a lot of people have genuinely been swindled by Overkill propaganda and are actually returning.
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>>144307890
>is now
Has been for a while.
>>144307891
Which is why the active player number was declining all throughout the patch day even through prime time.
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>They've given up on playing the game while doing Q&A streams.
Bravo.
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>>144307701
I haven't been on this general in years. Can I join your secret club?
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>>144307304
If Sydney is any indicator of OK's ideas for OC, I'll take crossovers from here on out
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>>144307412
Nah.

Not until you play with a guy using a gun you think looks cool
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>Talking about wanting to do a Terminator crossover.
There's already the nuclear arrmageddon from the Hotline Miami crossover, why not just throw Skynet in too. Then we can have a Fallout crossover. Then a Mad Max.
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>>144308959
>Bain tries to talk Skynet into helping him run heists
>Skynet decides that the best way to protect the planet is to destroy all humans
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>>144307412
No, not really. BBQ pack is the only thing that's really "essential" in terms of adding something cool and out there, but you can definitely live without it. If you use ARs a lot, you'll get some mileage out of the courier and AK/Car packs, but if not then no. Same with the shotgun pack.
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>>144308959
>TFW Vault Dweller would fit for a heister nick name
but no fuck no.
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Post yfw the level of cuckage in this fag.
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>>144309571
>mfw people hate OVERKILL
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Am I just missing them, or have all the skills that have names referencing heist movies (kilmer, winston wolfe) been replaced with generic shitty names like "aggressive reload". Sure, makes it easier for new players to grasp but its still kind of lame. I notice silent killer is gone too.
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>can convert 2 cops
>takes too long to get two cops to surrender
>they die too quick even with upgrades
What's the fucking point? Instead of wasting time trying to make a cop surrender, its better to just kill them outright and put points somewhere else.
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Is it just me or is the Loco in the coco the best shotgun primary?
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>>144310661
>loco is good

2 years ago maybe
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>tide they fixed the arrows give you zip ties bug
I was actually having fun on old busted maps like nightclub and harvest collecting all the civilians as hostages. It gave me something new to do solo stealth.
>in b4 "stealth shitter"
Fuck you. I like stealth.
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>>144299481
What armor do you use with that?
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>>144311275
suit or lbv
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>>144311208
The fact that you're so self conscious about what people think about you doing stealth is pathetic.
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>>144309910
Unlimited hostages for skills that use hostages.

And getting cops to surrender isn't hard, you just have to not suck.

Kill all but one cop, do at least half their health worth of damage to them, knock them down or stun them (Taser is best), get behind them, start shouting. 99.9% success rate.
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>"We have a balancefest coming up, do we not?" -- OVERKILL_Jules

A storm's a coming.
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So is Sydney good for sexual? Also in game too I guess.
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>>144312371
Sydney's voice is so fucking high it's ridiculous. I can't play with her with a straight face.
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>Overkill admitting that they were behind the microtransactions.
IF MY DICK GREW AN INCH EVERY TIME I WAS RIGHT I'D BE TOO BIG EVEN FOR TRASHLY'S GAPING CHASM.
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>>144312371
Really good perk deck, just put biker helmet so all you have is a sexy biker lady no weird face
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"Gage will never be a playable character."
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>>144312593
>"What is up with yeero's son Kento?"
>"He's working at the chinese store in Four Stores." -- OVERKILL_Joakim
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>>144312371
Annoying as hell. If you like spamming WANKA when playing hoxton, you'll love her. Be warned though, Ive noticed I'm not the only host who kicks Sydneys out of principle. If you play pubs that might be an issue 4u.
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>>144312569
Post mask.
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>>144312371
Sydney has one pager line that got me to chub. Also some of her intimidate and hostage yelling lines are femdomish.
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These new skills are fucking OP. I just breezed through DW Boiling Point, taking ZERO health damage with an LBV.
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haven't played since crimefest, is it worth it boyss.
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>>144314348
Its worse on stealth. Ive got every stealth related skill aced and still have about 25 points left over. Maybe its my own biases talking but it shouldn't be this easy.
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>>144314647
No
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I haven't played since bbk's dick was in my ass, what's the meta lads?
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>George Carlin talks about the next member of the PayDay Crew

https://youtu.be/ELFKMY14TYU
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>>144314348
what perk deck
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Whats a good melee weapon for melee builds? Katana still?
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>>144315130
Ex-President. My armor only went down three or four times and every single time I was able to either duck for cover or kill mercs before they shot me, all of those health stacks wasted.
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>>144314972
literally anything at this point. even lmgs to an extent.
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>>144309839
Because Silent Killer is the name of the tree it's in, now.
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>>144306017
It works on Shields. I don't know if it works on Dozers.
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>>144294836
trashly do you have any cowboy dlc codes
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>>144295724
I'm able to kill the snipers across the roof on undercover with the over-under double barrel
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>>144316557

Yeh i do. Ask me in the /vg/ chat.
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>>144318446
What about Lootbag?
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>>144318661

Only for official giveaways/events.
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Do the skills/perk that increase ammo pick-up effect modded shotgun ammunition yet?
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>>144318812
Alright; thanks for answering.
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What's the magic with the new skills considering the nerfs to perk deck dodge values and bulletproof now being at 30%?
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ashley, can you talk about the choice to keep alienware masks exclusive even to people that provide proof of purchase nowadays?

seems like a shitty move. I get that there's probably some legality behind it or maybe you don't want to step on alienware's feet or something, but I feel like the purchase thing goes right along side AU players showing their residency for HM2 codes. again, dennaton has a presumably better relationship with overkill so maybe that explains it.

I dunno, I want them, but sometimes the contests seem a little silly. if you guys want an exclusive mask to give away, consider floating the idea to the team that there should be a mask for explicitly that purpose, instead of dangling something that seems like a formality more than anything over our heads. something like the "community" quality prefix in TF2, if you're at all familiar with that, but just in mask form. getting that would be cooler and send much more a message that you won a content/event than "maybe I bought an alienware/preordered the game/knew humble bundle was a thing and/or I got lucky"
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>>144320751
The magic is in finding a balance between dodge and armor that works for you.
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>>144321583

That wasn't really my call and i'm not sure what to say about it truthfully. There's two sides here which is, Alienware themselves have stopped the promotion and as a result should we give codes to those who buy an alienware?

On the other hand, if we don't give them to alienware users, there's no actual way to get them besides through me pretty much, such as a raffle/event ect.

I'll talk to Almir about it when i get the chance.
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>>144321723
>less is more

hue

Any real answers?
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>>144321989
Get good or kill yourself, shitter
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>>144321909
>Alienware themselves have stopped the promotion and as a result should we give codes to those who buy an alienware

I get what you mean, you're not really automatically delegated to give that to people. I just sort of expected that generosity from overkill having seen the HM2 australian debacle and other general forms of good will toward the community. Just felt strange to see the post from jones about how it seemed like there was a conscious choice to close the door on late alpha buyers.

As someone who was about to buy an alpha, not exclusively for the masks mind you, but a cheap living room quasi-PC to run couch co-op games to, I was pretty bummed that one of the key incentives and bonuses I was going to get was swept under me.

>I'll talk to Almir about it when i get the chance.

thanks pal! i'd appreciate it.
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>>144322251
Ah, the legendary shitposting of which I hear so much.

Go on, ask us what's changed since you quit.
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>>144322403
Nah I already know what's changed: you've taken to dicks up your ass rather than just your mouth alone
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>>144322586
I miss when people put at least a little effort into trolling.
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>>144322698
I miss when you weren't a complete faggot
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>>144322403
>>144322586
>>144322698
>>144323318
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Van is leaving in four minutes guys

>>144324316
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>>144324435
I don't give a fuck.
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