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Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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Cookie cutter builds:
>Consult thread before using
http://pastebin.com/zfAghE2H

TOS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is an action MMORPG with a lot of classes, cute hats and autism grinding.

>Can I play the game now?
If you haven't downloaded the game yet, Win+R then paste: steam://install/372000. Run and download the game.

>English patch for kTOS
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/general-ktest-thread/124575/645

>Servers
- kTOS - Server : Vakarine (Upside down "A" in gookspeak)
- iTOS: Klaipedia (NA), Fedimian (EU), Telsiai (SEA)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Helping in the translation will speed up international server updates and remove unwanted machine-translated text. There are also rewards for contributors, further explained on the github page.

>/tosg/ Guilds info
If you are recruiting, please post on the thread
>Klaipeda
Futureproof (pm Lolipan)
FOE (pm Jinsae)
Clover (pm Karga)
>Fedimian
CoffeeHouse (pm Cabyba)
NiceBoat (pm Tello)
>Telsiai
Comfy (pm Katzenberg)
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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj
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Few questions anons.

Are the level 50/90/115 dungeons correspond with each other? i mean if I use all 3 instances on 115, can i still eneter 90? 50? What about hte levle 100 dungeons? also a guy told me to only do the first mission, the silaui or something, whys that?
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Cute Patrol is having fun
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>>143647835
its 3 for everything

so you're better off running whatever dungeon has the items you want, or the most expensive items

though that's for boss rushing, if you want EXP too you'll choose the highest one you can enter.
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>>143647835
it's 3 dungeons and missions per day (with token), You can only run 3 50dg or 3 90 or 3 115, or 1 50/90/115. Missions are a different tab and takes another 3, people only run siauliai(the first one).
You can check it ingame using the /indun command.
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Stat allocation for a cryokino?
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>>143647904
the exception to this is that 190 gives slightly better exp than 200
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I want an archer build that isn't QS3 or fletcher 3.

What's more interesting to play, sapper 2 wugushit 2 or ranger + rogue barrage meme?

I wanted to play archer 3 scout 3 initially but i expect i will commit suicide before reaching scout 3 and it's just spam split arrow all day long.
I want something more interactive.
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>>143647835
>>143647907
thanks anons.

lastly, would the 115 dungeon boost me up to Rank 5 like the level 50/90 dungeons did?

also why is everybody doing the Siaulial only?

thanks guys
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>>143647771
Multihits can crit too, but no matter that, STR will always be the best selection.
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>>143647978
Not really, but 115 is good exp dungeon although abit long.
People only queue for siauliai because it's straightforward and fast.
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How should I go about building a rogue3 thats focused on boss hunting using captured memeclouds?

Full str so I can do damage after I unload all my stolen skills?
Full con so I wont die?
Full int?
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>>143648045
thanks mate, and drop i should look forward from the 115?
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>>143648090
Valia/Ledas shield.
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>>143648090
valia is a good cleric weapon that sells fast even if not for that much. don't craft it for them, just sell the recipe.
ledas shield is an inferior arde.
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Clover still has a slot or two for players looking for a guild.
No level/Talt requirements, just be reasonably active in the game.
Send me a PM and have fun with friends.
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>>143647702

I like the guild info for this general
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>>143648402
Thanks cuteposter, I like you too.
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is niceboat still planning on moving servers?
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>Reach 240-250s
>Excitedly enter new maps for the first time
>It just recolored mobs with shit loads of hp
>Mobs are usually cheap as hell ranged mobs

Man I'm really losing faith in this game.
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>>143648856
After 230 all you do is grinding to begin with. I got 3 charachters at 250 because I can't be bothered and leveling a 4th now.

I still have hope but it has to come sooner than later
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>mfw I played 700 hours with FXAA on

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/174189
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>>143648856

You're supposed to stop at 240, those are placeholder maps
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>>143649031
both look like shit
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What drops the marksman bow?
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Has this game been release yet? Looks cute.
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>>143649072
FXAA blurs every detail on character models.
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>>143649497
nexon forced them to delay it so MS2 won't be a complete failure
maybe they hope for it to become their next cash cow so they made them expand it
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>>143649667
Lack of FXAA adds disgusting pixelated jaggies.
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Guys as a tank what the fuck am I meant to do against magic meme like ICE FUCKING PIKE?
Do I switch to cloth or what?
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>>143649857
More CON. More dispellers.
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>>143648070
>Full int?
Yes.
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>>143649812
I prefer detail over jaggies but it's just a personal preference.
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>>143649898
>dispellers
REEEEEEE, I'm poor enough due to jew pots as it is, I'm not fucking shelling out for dispellers on top of that
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>>143649857
Get Rodel2 in the build. About the best you can do.
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What's the best skill to set up for incineration for a cleric/diev/krivis? How many points should I put into deprotected zone, aukuras, divine stigma?
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>>143649857
Marc Card
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>>143650327
upboated
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I'm trying to create a PvP gank alt, plan being to decloak and then nuke someone in GvG. I'm running Ranger 3 > Scout 1 > Rogue 1 > Musket.
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What would be a good name for a skill that increases DoT tick rate?
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>>143650519
Haste Death
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>>143650473
Drop Ranger3 for Hunter2. Barrage5 is enough.
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>Need to get to gate route
>Google it
>https://steamcommunity.com/app/372000/discussions/0/357286663686208517/

>nvm i found it
>literally memed the fuck out of
>that guys face when
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>>143650853
nvm found it
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70 con - rest dex on monk?
Full str for jihadi wugu-sapper?
2:1:2 Str:Int:Con for DEUS VULT C2-Krivis-Paladin?
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So does arrow path exist in the game? I cannot find the entrance anywhere
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>>143651154
No way to enter it.
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>>143650564

Drop what else for hunter 2?
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>>143651275
Drop ranger 2 and ranger 3, you silly.
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>tfw want to join the guild you really belong to but too shy, retarded, and autistic to message guild leader
just
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>>143651359
Just do it. You're not asking for a blowjob, you're asking an apropriate thing.

>not asking your guildleader for a blowjob
You're missing out by the way.
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>>143651359
kys
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repost from previus thread coz didnt see the new one:

wanna go sapper2wugushi2, 1str/2dex is good? with some CON to dont get 1shuted
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>>143651359
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>>143651586
ANON MEANT kiss you softly

DONT WORRY NO ONES BULLYING YOU HERE
WE A GOOD COMMUNITY
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>>143651359
Just message Karga if you're in Klaipeda >>143648267
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>Still playing this garbage
>Not playing Overwatch
>Tree of Savior
>7 Years
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>>143651838
>playing ogreshit
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>>143649497
>mmo trying to look like anime mmos

I want to play it
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>>143651586
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>>143651875

>playing this garbage

+2fps, to you.
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I'm at 35 cubes and still haven't got my arde.
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>>143651838
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>Just watched a level 43 run up, attack one of the bees and get wrecked
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>>143652093
i'm at over 200 and have given up
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>>143652529
I gave up, too. I'll just buy one off the market when I can afford it.
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>>143652529
why? i have 3, one for each character i made. why do you give up so easy?
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>>143651650
>WE A GOOD COMMUNITY
Don't lie. Aren't as bad as xivg or gw2g, but definitely not comfy.
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>>143652093
62 cubes and no arde here
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>Blue Cronewt Needler
>Blue Spion Archer

Why do these satan spawn exist? Especially the Needler with what seems to be max perma haste. Why is this even allowed?
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>>143652797
IMC not playing their own game.
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>>143652704

We are very comfy in game, shitposters gonna shitpost in the thread though.
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>>143652797
weren't you guys complaining about the casualization of the game, that you wanted muh grindingfest?
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>>143652702
i have more characters that are all higher level than you
fuck off
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>>143653263
Oooh babby gettng burthurt, whats the matter babby? Games too hard for you? :)
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>>143653181
no
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Rodeleros assemble!
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Will there ever be a way to make cross server dungeon work in iTOS?
Because Klaipeda is fucking dead.
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>>143653189
The problem is there's no way to outskill homing missiles.
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>>143653425
CC the mobs or play in a party, kirito
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>>143653475
>play in a party
>ToS
lamo
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>>143653475
>every class can cc
>playing in a party is skill
uhmmm
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>>143653536
Then cc the mobs. Enjoy sitting by a bonfire every 5 mins
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>>143653557
>>>playing in a party is skill
It's called social skills
Maybe you should invest points in it
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>>143653557
>full draw
>sleep
>bash
>safety zone (lmao solo cleric)
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>>143653640
>moving goalposts
*tips whiteknight helm*
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>>143653660
>bash can knockdown elite mobs
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So, any new classes? Some craft classes? Fishing? Mini-games? New locations? New skills? New World Bosses?

BTW there's utter shit with WB. All of them are old, i killed them already on previous server. New 217 isn't dropping anything, and all others are 280 with 280000000 hp. What the fuck, why don't you make 220, 230, 240, 250, 260, 270 WB with, actually, good loot? Why are there 20 worldbosses 75lvl, but literally, nothing to do after 230+ ?
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Someone posted these nice loadscreens in the /jp/ thread before it got deleted

http://www.mediafire.com/download/fbcr11xmwns90n7/loadingimg.rar

Go to steam>steamapps>common>ToS>Release and replace the loadingimage folder with the new one
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>>143653776
Should've went corsair if you wanted to solo grind, fuccboi
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>>143653829
How banned i would be?
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>Been rushing the 130 dungeon for almost two weeks
>Still petamion drop

Why is this so duffering
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>>143653557
If you planned to be a solo player, you should have taken CC into account from the start. That's just poor planning
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>>143654036
No one will know it just replaces image files in your folder
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>>143653829
Does the image's resolution matter? I don't know how to fiddle with these things
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>>143654050
IT'S BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T OFFER TO MIMI

YOUR FAULT TBQHWYF
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>>143654286
If you're planning on making your own yes they have to be 1920x1080
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>>143653829
Janny a shit.
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>>143654289
t. mimi
not him, but I think I offered you something
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>>143654050
I dropped 5 knotted armband formulas in that dungeon so far, it seems it has the same drop rate but can't say for sure.
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wow.

we dead
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>>143654706
There's a reason /vg/ crossposters get their threads wiped while original /jp/ threads stay.

Think really hard on why.
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>>143654789
People are playing the game.
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>>143654780
Always knew anons loved to take the knot.
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>>143654706
It's bad enough that we got /a/'s furry general.
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>>143654935
Is that the fucking monster girls general? I fucking hate them more than idol generals.
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>>143654807
Just like jav threads right? You must have been the autistic faggot that spammed it for nearly 3 years before it became a "original /jp/ thread".
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>>143654807
Thanks anon you just gave me a great idea
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So if i mess up with the pendulum gimmick in Ibre plateau do i have to wait another day to redo it?
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>>143655093
its 10 mins
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>>143654996
Yes but at least they keep to their thread and don't spam threads. It is absurd that it goes up to 3k posts but at least they wait till they are on page 10.
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>>143655205
Oh thats nice, is there a limit on how many you can do per day?
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>>143655358
3
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>>143654807
and god bless for that
>MMO thread
>/terag/, /ffxiv/ and other MMO generals jump in and start shilling for their shitty servers/MMOs
I'm still pissed off on how our jTera adventures fell apart because someone on /terag/ got so mad on people going on the japanese servers insteads of the NA ones that they would lock out accounts by constantly trying to log-in with false details on accounts/emails handed in the thread.
>>143654935
Nearly all generals on /jp/ blow ass, I think the touhou doll one is decent but that's only because it moves as fast as a snail.
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Whats a fun Wizard build path, that is good in the long run but doesn't require me having a dozen different skills i need to press in an overly specific order?
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>>143655494
elememe
Use quick cast>meme cloud>anything you want>repeat from beginning
ez pz
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>>143655494
>fun = braindead
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>>143653829
>expect 2hu screens
>it's 70% kancercolle

DELETE THIS
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>>143655614
Having a set pattern would be more braindead, though. Knowing the skills to use within the situation requires more thought than what he wanted to avoid. A set rotation like that is something even bots can do, and do on a daily basis
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wake me up
ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ã…‹ant wake up inside
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>>143655468
It's a thread that knows how to take it easy.
But enough of meta talk.
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>>143655821
it's 100% shit is what you mean
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will this game run on my half-broken toaster of a laptop?
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How do I know if me and my mate are sharing the same quest?
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>>143656328
there s problem

if there are little of people - you can run it on toaster
but if there are lots of them and all of them casting something - even top machines can't run this shit
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>>143656328
Sometimes my FPS goes below 20.

I have GTX 980ti.
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>>143656328
Yes but you will not enjoy it.
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>>143656328
It is badly optimised BUT it runs on a very wide range of systems.
make sure to edit the user.xml and disable stuff in the ingame options.
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>>143656586
Perfect. I don't need to enjoy it, I just need to get my boss rushes in/spend my free TP on soul crystals while I am out of town.
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>>143656748
This game is perfect for you then.
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>>143656586
>implying someone enjoying this
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Send help
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Is anyone planning on making a cleric or wizard version of this?
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>>143656662
>make sure to edit the user.xml
elaborate
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>>143656931
It's fun, though
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>>143647702
>still playing this game
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Is Kneeling Shot important for Fletcher 3?
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>>143657064
>rogue1
>B
>Decent cl*, great in certain aspects but there could be better alternatives

>Scout 3 B

>Reiter
>C
>A
?
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>>143655821
Kancolle has overtaken touhou at comiket and I for one welcome our new boat overlords
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>>143657160
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>>143657253
The author claims he puts /tosg/ opinions in first place but 80% of those grades are copy-pasted from reddit and forums.
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>>143657253

Reiter is a good class, just not as good compared to other r7 classes.

Scout3's only purpose is to be a brainless silver farmer.

Rogue1 is a decent pickup, but sneak hit procs are unreliable. I would not advise new players to go balls in to this class, but if you know what to do with capture it's good.
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>>143657160

haha poor
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>>143657069
Go to "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\TreeOfSavior\release" and open the user.xml with wordpad.
UseEffectHigh="0"
DrawActorPersent and DrawMonsterPersent to something lower depending how much you can stomach popping in characters and monsters.
BitPerPixel="16"
VSync="0"
UseFXAA="0"

I think there are other things too to edit but this does fine for me.
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>>143657535
the whole fucking thing is straight from reddit/ the forums
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>>143657535

>80%

At best maybe 1 or 2 grades were affected by forums because none of you shitters had any input to give.

95% of the list is tosg
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>>143657231
craft more
>>143657403
Nice outfit collection.
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>>143657697
retard
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>>143657656
Surely you can find some posts in archive that suggested grades, and you put them on this list, right?
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Yeah man look around, I asked for as many opinions as o could here but the reality is that only a small handful of tosg has archers in rank7.
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How do I come to terms with the fact that the item I want will never drop?
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>>143657829
>>143657950

The ratings for ranger, hunter, wugu, Sapper, schwarz2, rogue, and cannoner have been affected by tosg.

Fletcher and ranger2/3 is mostly my own conclusions due to the fact I have a 250 world bossing fletcher.

Archer, QS, falcon, scout and musket have not received any feedback whatsoever.

The list changes constantly when someone brings a valid critique instead of just green arrow meme posting.
The only thing I've taken from Reddit and ToS forums is that they're a bunch of drooling retards so I haven't had anything impactful changed from them because they don't know shit. the majority of the time was just me answering questions.
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>>143658147
Learn to reroll cubes :^)
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>>143658147
You don't. You're going to open each cube praying it drops only to be greeted with disappointment when you get talt or cards.
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So I'm level 130 and already I'm doing nothing in the game besides running dungeons and missions which takes up all the time I can spare for this game.
Is this the situation for anyone else or is everyone putting 10+ hours per day?
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>>143658584
That's actually one of the least painful ways to level. You do missions/dungeon runs every day, and catch up on quests during the weekend. You should have a truckload of spare cards.
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>>143658584
yes and yes
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>IMC fixed Inner Enceinte District breaking summons
>They didn't fix Valius' Eternal Resting Place
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>>143658718
>>143658737
tfw the main quest maps want me to be level 80 for the maousleum but im already 50 levels over

I just don't undetstand how people can spare so much time when doing all dungeons and mission already takes 2-4 hours
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>>143647965
A2 Sapper 2 Wugu 2 Musket
A2 R1 Wugu 2 Falcon Musket

Namely, if you don't want qs3/f3/sc3 wugu is your man.

Rogue + barrage is not as good as people meme it out to be, but it's also not as bad as the countermemers want you to think.
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>>143647965
Archer2 Sapper2 Wugu2 Cannon is the meta AoE DPS build if you intend to be useful and/or want to do ET. Still barely anyone plays it in iToS though for some reason, but I guess since it's not an Ele3 Warlock or Fletcher people just don't know about it yet.
If you just want to be a special snowflake you can honestly mix and match a shitload in the archer tree, there isn't many combinations that are just complete and utter dogshit and don't have anything going for them.
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>>143658867
What's your class?
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>>143657160
How's life on the fucking moon?
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>>143658468
>Archer, QS, falcon, scout and musket have not received any feedback whatsoever.

Every time you post this, I tell you to make a (*C or B past 250 without didel grand cross for QS3). It's still a flat S and trapping newbies. It's fairly accurate personal experience, and more than half of QS3 I've met at that level range felt the same as me.

If you need feedback for musket, I'd also put (*A or B if heavy lag is experienced when switching weapons).
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>>143659110
swordie of zero damage
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was i lied to when people said linking icewalls and then smashing them would be good for boss killing?
they just break instantly for me. is it because i only have cryo1?
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>>143657546
>Rogue1 is a decent
No it isn't. Capture is shit with 3min CD. Vendetta is shit. Evasion is shit, especially because Rogues doesn't have any DEX and EVA. Sneak Hit is shit too. "hit enemy from behind", my ass.

Feint is shit too. Only for ranger-barrage. ROgue 1 is fucking useless class, without any skills. Rogue2 has Lacrimator and Backstab, thou Backstab is shit too.


Reiter is good only for dog riding. All of his skills are shit too, maybe not including Retreat. Second Reiter doesn't gives anything good.

And Scout3 is pretty decent, 200% Split Arrow is good. Of course, it's only for mob killing, not for bosshunting, but 20000-30000 damage with 0cd skill (against flying mobs) is not joke, at all.
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>>143659404
That figures why it takes you so long.
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>>143659054
iToS memeshitters just don't know anything, PyroLinker Alchemists and Catagoons can do ET without Elem3's.
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>>143659657
>he doesn't know about the very first floor of et yet hes memeing
ebic
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>>143659542
Rogue1 is great, the fuck are you talking about. It lets you skip Dex entirely if you make a bossing character.
Rogue 2 used to be great but since they shat on Backstab so hard it's pretty much worthless, you go either 3 circles deep for Burrow memes or leave it at 1.

Scout 3 is nice, I agree.
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>>143659542
>Capture is shit
He doesn't know
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>>143659761
>>143659307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4c34GuB6i6g

What starts with B and ends in TFO and is synonymous with (You)?
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>>143657546
>>143659542
How would I best build a Scout3? It sounds like it could be fun and I want some of the Scan hats anyways, so I might make that my next alt
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Is the pendulum minigame broken or something? I've been running around the map looking for the treasure and theres no indication whether im close to it or not
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What is it about /vg/ that attracts anime/erp cancer?
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>>143659991
Go arch2 for the crit buff. Split arrow is one of the best skills in-game. Dunno the one rank, maybe get Ranger? For Steady Aim and Barrage(aoe)
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>>143659965
????
Literally all the damage she's dealing is coming from combining broom trap with kneeling shot.
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>>143659965
>alchemists can do x
>the video is all about y doing everything
ebic
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>>143660060
Its almost like 4chan was created for a place to discuss anime.
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>>143659542
Capture can do some fairly ridiculous things, it's definitely not shit. The amazing thing about it is that every hit you deal via Captured stuff counts as auto attack, meaning it synergizes with Running Shot and Sneak Hit ridiculously well.
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How do you take count of your raised stats?
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What's a good alchemist build?
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>>143660362
Either keep track of them yourself or get excrulon's addons which show invested stats at the bottom of your stat window.
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Does stabbing's duration increase with level?
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>>143660658
Pyro2 Linker1 Thauma1
Pyro2 Linker2
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>need over 6,000 bees to level up once
How exactly is this supposed to be good, again? I haven't even seen an archer be able to kill fast enough to make that worth it.
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>>143660924
Having to grind before 212 is the biggest meme in this game, don't fall for it.
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>>143660924
casual
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>>143660924
bees suck go for dp or do taily dungeon and mission
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I'm falling asleep as wiz2, any tips?

And now that I think about it, since I don't think think I'll ever remake another wiz3, what's worth more in the long run: elememe or necrofarmer?
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After three days of grinding Alemeth, followed by some questing and exploring, I am finally past the 236 wall. Higher than my Templar character, finally.

Hitting Evac tomorrow.
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>>143661135
Get sacrament, blessing and weapon + 15 buffs from other players, the 1k spent on each is worth it.
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>there's nothing to do after 280
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>>143660924
Bees are easy and carefree. Grinding Demon Prison is way more stressful.

I suppose iCBT2 veterans have had enough DP2 for their lifetimes already.
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>Finally get something that isnt talt from the 130 Dungeon
>Still not Petamion

How much do these go for? I don't see any in the markets
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>>143661502
Grats. They go for around 300-350k.
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>>143661502
300-500k
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>>143660924
You never have to grind until 220+

Here, have a free leveling guide:
1. Download excrulon pack for betterquest addon and mapfog addon
2. Do all the quests and explore 100% in every map going by level/proximity order here: http://toscamp.com/map_en/map3.8.php
3. Always do the dungeon closest to your level range daily. Always do 100 missions daily starting from 100.
4. Only use cards to stay within recommended level of maps. Only time you save cards is when you can get enough to jump from 160 to 170 ish.
5. Past 175 there is 0 point in saving cards.
6. Do mob kills (easiest ones) for all maps starting from Roxona Market.

There, that carries you to 220 or more without grinding a single fucking bee or prison demons.
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>>143661438
you've reached the true end game

just like all MMOs, true end game is ERP
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Guys, anyone got a list of all the class outfits in iToS, or just a list of the Wizard class ones?
Trying to decide on male or female wizard and the outfits are a big factor.
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>>143661668
i can level 2-3 characters to r7 in the time your shitty """""guide""""" takes one char to r7
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>>143661668
>>143660924


Don't listen to this misinfo copypasta.
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How viable is a pure CON cryokino?
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>>143661893
teach me your ways senpai
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>>143661893
Good joke, i'm sure you convinced many people with those hot statements.
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>>143661668
Aren't addons bannable?
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>>143661893
If you only care about r7 and don't plan to go past that, sure you can map explore higher levels starting from like ~200 ish but then it's all grind.
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>>143661916
>don't listen to solid advice
>listen to me, who's telling you to kill 6,000 bees to level up once
Okay, retard. I'll take your retard advice, burn myself out and quit the game, retard. Thank you, retard. Kill yourself, retard. :^)
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>>143661261
Thanks, I'll try adding those
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>>143661893
do you have any facts to back that up?
I'd be interested to know how to make some alts quickly
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>>143661932
good for pvp
abysmal useless garbage for ET
you will feel like shit whenever theres a bossfight with knockdowns
decent aoe for grinding parties but expect to have lower priority for parties than other classes
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>>143661829
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i'm a fletcher too
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>>143661932
pvp king
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>>143662345
It's my super duper secret and I'm not telling you!
But just know that your method is worse, and mine is better. Teehee I'm such a good little retard pretender haha !
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>>143662582
well 2 magic arrow lvl 5 s is probably as good as as lvl 10 one

so its like having 2 fletchers
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>>143660924
>>143661668
After playing iCBT2, kTOS, and now iTOS, I can get through those zones in such few days that I actually have to grind Bees because I didn't get the chance to do dungeons/missions enough.

This guide is pretty accurate. Staying within 10 levels of the maps you're questing maximizes your gains, I suggest 5 level.

What I end up doing is

>50 dungeon thrice
>90 dungeon thrice
>after finishing up quests all the way to Apsimesti Crossroads and doing the Sanctuary of perpetual freeze chain, card to 136
>run the 130 dungeon thrice
>card to 155
>grind bees for 1 or 2 days, enough so that I can pop cards to 186~190
>park the character in this zone for a few days, doing missions, 190 dungeons, whatever
>pop cards to 212
>grind Alemeth to 229
>pop cards to 240

Also,

6. Do mob kills (easiest ones) for all maps starting from Roxona Market.

This is slower than doing Bees, and yields less Silver.

Now, for you reading this post, you're probably new and haven't been through those zones 8+ times like some of us here. You'll be reading the text, reading guides, browsing tosg, getting a feeling for the game.

Chances are, you'll run more dungeons and missions than me, mostly because you'll spend more days just to get to the part where you have the option to grind or not. If you don't want to grind, don't do it. Park that character, do missions only, and play another character.

The 145 dungeon is good EXP but if I have to run that place again, I would rather die.
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>>143662550
Thanks, guess i need to think about what i wanna be along the wizard path before i can decide....
Its good that both male and female outfits look decent though, i hate how some games favor one gender over the other.
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>>143662715
this is pretty accurate but doesn't include the mention to skip almost every quest under lvl 80/90 range
and only do the two mainquest lines

whenever I level new alts I only do the yellow quests
until lvl 90 dungeon, if your team levels not too high you might want to do some quests for lvl 4 cards but only the ones that reward like 2 or 3 and are easy to do
you save alot of time from that
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>>143657064
I don't like rating Cleric classes like that because I think they all have their uses but here is a rough outline of which circles are good:

Cleric 2>>>>>>Cleric 1>Cleric 3 (Go Cleric2 unless you really know what you are doing with your build/are Priest3).

Priest (all great. So is Chaplain)
Krivis (all good but generally 1 is for Spr builds and 2/3 are for Int)

Bokor 2>>>>>>>Bokor 1>Bokor 3 (this is for Hex builds, zombies are ????)
Diev (all great, 2 is slightly weaker than others)

Paladin 3>>1/2 (Mediocre class)
Sadhu 2>>>>>(1 and 3 might as well not exist. Hell, 2 barely exists)

Pardoner (imo you can slip 1 into some builds but generally this is class is for jewing)
Monk 2>>memes 1>>>You probably shouldn't give up r7 for Monk3

Oracle 1>>>>>>>>>2 (2 does not offer enough for a r7 slot right now)
Druid 2>>>1 (1 is good, 2 is almost PD tier for Int builds)

Plague Doctor-Obviously amazing.
Kabbalist-Good, but somewhat unexplored.
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>>143663168
>I like to spread disinfo because my life is shit an the only joy I get out of life is fucking people over. :^)
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>>143662715
>6. Do mob kills (easiest ones) for all maps starting from Roxona Market.
>This is slower than doing Bees, and yields less Silver.

Silver for sure, but exp wise?
Depends on the type of character and if you have a party. The 1 or 2 days you spent at bees, I've already used them to get to 210+ and the better lv cards.

Most maps starting from that level range only take like 15 mins to complete because of developer laziness and are fewer in number, adding an extra 30 mins per map gets you all or most of the monster kill cards + kill exp on a DPS character or if you're in a party and at least has more variety than bees.
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>>143662715
Actually, new players will run less dungeons than you because you got a third dungeon run a day, anyone without a token won't and new teams can't buy a token off the market until three days have passed, if they'd even have enough silver in that time. They will do the 50 dungeon twice, ending at level 60 and even playing through the zones casually they'll hit close to 90 before the reset is up, unless they outright stop playing. At that point it isn't worth another run of the 50 dungeon (that and you'd usually be 70-75 anyway) and with just a little more you'd break 90 and spam that dungeon.
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>>143662550
Oh god that male Linker outfit, i love it, its nice and simple, the male Thaum outfit is pretty nice as well.
Guess im making a boy wizard!
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>>143659991
Maybe something like QS3-Scout3
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>people waiting for ktos patches
>go check it thinking it COMPLETELY overhauls all the balance issues of the game
>+10% damage on this, +1 damage on that, -1 cooldown on this, +1 duration on this
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>>143663168
I always end up doing everything. Considering it takes over a day just to get all the 380+ Lv3 cards, this might actually be a good option. Perhaps I'll do it this way if I decide to make another one.
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>be a cryomancer
>ice pike kills everything in one hit
>gather up 50,000 monsters
>use ice pike
>mfw
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>>143661668
where can i get the addons and how to install them?
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>>143663787
https://github.com/Excrulon/Tree-of-Savior-Lua-Mods

There's more addons from other developers, but these are the most essential.
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Is there a list of hidden quests that don't appear in betterquests ui?
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>>143663653
If your class were shit you'd rejoice at any opportunity to get better.

Some classes' buffs are actually pretty strong, Rodelero being the one getting the strongest boost.
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am i doing it right
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>>143663771
>Cryoshitter hasn't experienced the power of magic missile

I'm never going back to my cryoshitter.
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>>143664018
inb4spions
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>>143659542

Retreat shot 10 is capable of dealing 300k+ damage on 10 mobs in a fairly large aoe (even though it's line aoe), the damage potential is extremely high, but it requires near perfect positioning.

Rogue1 is the very definition of decent. It's not mediocre because when sneak hit procs, it's strong. Also capture mechanics lets you do some pretty otherworldly damage.

>>143659307
I'll note it down as B and scale it up with funding/lucky drops for the next update. I'll also add a note for musket being downgraded to A due to weapon swap lag
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>>143663953

http://s.ameblo.jp/tsuyucchi/entry-12086684212.html
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>>143664167
im hoping plate armor, hp hats and beetleback will protect me
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>>143663963
Will langort ever be good?
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>>143663787
>>143663862

http://tosmod.com
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>>143664240
you'll maybe survive one with your hp left in the shitter
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>>143664238
Thanks breh
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>>143664440
They insist on not buffing Peltasta, so I don't know.

They could buff the Pelt skills a little bit, but what Pelt really need is for their buffs to scale well. Guardian is a joke and High Guard is just garbage.
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There has got to be a good Bokor/Sadhu/Monk build for PvP.
One day I will find it, mark my words.
this is one prototype without Bokor
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41126998.1a2138415565.12253345.15213445.112a3741556571.22314155617194
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>>143662284
fuck off shitnigger :^)
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>>143659991

I've seen people run archer3 with scout3, or archer2 ranger1 scout3.
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>>143665146
Sadhu1 is garbage, C2 or nothing because all they have is Possession. Bokor or Monk are fine on their own without mixing them.
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>>143662197
Who knows. VAC is enabled for ToS so modifying core files would potentially get you VAC banned.

But that itself is a mystery of how that actually works.
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>watched youtube worldboss kill
>there are girls and boys having fun together in voice chat
>everything goes smooth and enjoyable
>meanwhile on /tosg/ insecure beta cucklets are shitting on discord and having no achievements in this game so far

I was a fool to fail to this poor bait.
Voice chat is a must for MMO.
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>>143662197
They already said addons are allowed, hacking and exploiting isn't.
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>>143663168

I try to card to the 50 dungeon and then completely skip all lv3 maps and try to gather enough lvl4 cards to card up to the 90 dungeon.
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>>143665002

Guardian's attribute is fucking overpower...
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>>143664240
if you got a high block you can do blue spion archers with ease. Get a priest3 with you and stone skin makes them useless
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>>143665549
Kys yourself.
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>>143665457
Yeah, it's just feels so bad committing your r4-7 to Sadhu2Monk2
>>
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>>143665878
Sadhu is Int and Monk is Str/Dex so there is no reason to do that anyways.
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>>143665729
Which means there's no reason to level the skill at all. if guardian increased defense much like Swift step increases evasion, it'd be a better skill. Same for high guard, with how it scales there isn't much reason to invest on it at all, unless you want the att for rim and umbo blow
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>wizards crying about spion

what the fuck

just sleep, freeze, pp stun lock, just use your skills
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>>143665813
>no friends cuck
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>>143661152
That build, absolute madman taking Corsair at R7.
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>>143666180

common pvp build, friend.

just give wizzards The R.
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>>143665549
I understand the hate for voip and I hate it too, what I don't get is why hate discord (or any other group chat service for that matter) if it's text-only.

Do tosg guilds really only rely on in-game chat? That's so inconvenient these days.
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>>143666146
It's funny how easy they are as a Sorc because Templeshooter tanks them for you while shooting them several times in the time it takes them to hit him once.
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>>143659542
>He doesn't know about the capture bug

Fucking kek
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>>143665549
People who don't like discord are usually the ones with no RL friends, like those in Futureproof :^)
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>>143653829
>kanshit and nekomeme
here's a better version with all Touhou Instead

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9nde949phapshq1/loadingimg.rar?dl=0
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>>143666534
>>>/a/
>>>/jp/
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>>143666463
Capture bug does not changing 3 min CD
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>>143666378
>I understand the hate for voip and I hate it too

You realize that teamspeak / whatever is a must for any endgame, proper pvp and everything else that requires coordination and response from others?

Limiting yourself to no-voice gameplay instantly goes into scrubshit tier trash.
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>>143666793
Capture bug letting you place the captured spell multiple times without it going on cooldown
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>>143666526
>People who don't like discord are usually the ones with no RL friends, like those in Futureproof :^)

FP members use discord though. And read reddit. And use reddit addons.
Cuz, you know, people are not retarded enough to limit themselves for sake of 4kids lawful patriotism.
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To anyone doing guild farming: do the saplings have any different options available or any kind of notification to know when they're ready to be taken? And how long should it take?
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After 3 days of farming for Deadborn scap archers with all the available time I have, I have tallied up 2,860 kills.

I'm starting to lose faith that the gem actually exists.

Will report back at 5000 kills. Wish me luck ;_;
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>>143666794
I'm a lone wolf, I can accomplish any endgame content in any game without the help of scrubs who need to rely on metagaming tools like voicechat and camaraderie.
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Would Linker or Runecaster be an ok option for C7 of the Memetelist build?
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>>143666970
should shoot a whisper to the top 3 asking if they got one
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>>143666970

Drop rate is .01%, which averages to 1 in 10000

Good luck
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>>143666964
Yes, they will say harvest instead of remove
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Since now there is this loading screens background sharing i have this.
NSFW
http://www34.zippyshare.com/v/Gsbc8Gjl/file.html
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>>143666985
runecaster is really only for the "build of kings" worldboss build, linker seems off since you are mostly AOE. just take warlock, it's good extra damage.
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What's the afk farming mage class?
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>>143667364
Necro.
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>>143666979
>I'm a lone wolf, I can accomplish any endgame content in any game without the help of scrubs who need to rely on metagaming tools like voicechat and camaraderie.

So, no parties, no raids, no competitive PvP, no end game content for you "lone cuck" who's insecure about his silly voice.
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>>143667435
What do they use specifically for afk farming then?

Shoggoth?
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Are we wiz supposed to use the magic amp gloves and rest plate? Don't misinfo me pls
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>>143666970
tfw im dreading on trying to farm one of those Magic Arrow gems without going insane
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>>143667539
Just go full cloth
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>playing MMORPG alone
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>>143667604
Thanks misinfo agent.
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>>143667437
I can do all of those things without communication. If you can't then you just aren't on my level.
See: SAO
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>>143667190
That sure is some fucked up aspect ratio on those images
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>>143667519
Shoggoth and/or Raise Dead, yeah.
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>>143666970
>3 days of farming
>2860 kills
I killed 1.5k Shardstatue in 4 hours of farming yesterday
Maybe it's just the trot life around the map
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>>143667773
>>143667437

Shut the fuck up, both of you. YOU'RE troll baiting and YOU'RE troll replying. For what purpose are you two doing this and shitting up this general? Just get the fuck out of here.
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>>143666534
>>143653829
>>143667190
Could I combine all of these to have loads of loading screens
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>>143667819
Not him, but you can't compare the spawn rate.

There's around 6 in the WHOLE map and some are usually hidden so you actually have to walk all over the place and get near to see them.
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>>143667962
I'm sorry man, but if you had just bothered to check discord for a minute you'd know that we were both in on the joke.
Not our fault.
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>>143666970

I wonder what the best build for farming monster gems would be.

Maybe some kind of a qs3 or scout? Does running shot's movement speed only affect auto attacks or any skill that lets you move while attacking?
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>>143667145
Thanks anon. Do you know about how long the growth cycle lasts?
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>Someone asks why you can't use team storage
>Say because its a pay2win feature
>It gets filtered

WOOOOOOOOOW
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>>143667808
Thank you senpai.
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>>143667819
Well the spawn rates of deadborn scap archers are 6 at any time on the map, with a 30 second cool down.

Urge to kill self rising.
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>>143667582

Just buy it from bots :^)

Don't worry, I'm going to be in the same hell as you very soon
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>>143668119
A2 R1 Scout 3 SR is the specialized meme farming build.
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>>143668168
No sorry, I just tend to leave it overnight, I think it might be around 6 hours maybe.
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>>143668119
QS3 no doubt, with running shot, your down time from kill to kill is really minimalized.

I am seriously thinking about going SR and getting wind runners just to increase my walk speed to lower the downtime between traveling from target to target.
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>>143668117
>Check discord
>They're talking about terraforming and colonizing mars

What are you talking about shitposter-kun?
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>>143668689
No, I meant the good discord.
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>>143668358
As someone who is on that path with the purpose of PvP and contemplating reroll because I should have taken Hunter instead of Ranger, I might actually just turn it into a farmfag. Why SR at R7 though?
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>>143668843

Mount gives extra move speed, I assume
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>faggots who rush when using the dungeon finder
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>>143667962
>Shut the fuck up, both of you. YOU'RE troll baiting and YOU'RE troll replying. For what purpose are you two doing this and shitting up this general? Just get the fuck out of here.

This is not your safe zone, normie. You can leave anytime and never come back, no one will miss you kiddo.
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>>143667807
Your dick doesn't care faggot
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>QS3>Reiter nerfed
Shit. Is ranger3>a2>reiter2 better now?
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>>143668358

As much as I love this idea, I don't want to completely cripple a char just for farming....

Maybe make it an SR2 variation? Or not even pick up sr2 at all, because changing channels and remounting is annoying
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average tosboi
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>>143669089
yeah it does, actually.
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Why fence is a bad class again?
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>>143669223
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So im thinking of giving the PyroLinker build from the pastebin a go, but im just wondering if there is anything different i should do from whats listed there?
Like i have seen some people mention maxing Firewall to 10?
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>>143667819
2037 kills.
2x bracelets.
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Was Ausrine statue bugged or what?
Because i can get 100% invicibility uptime from them.
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I want to try going Scout3. A3Scout3 into Musk/Cannon seems to be the best I can think of. Not sure what to pick up for my last class but here's what I planned for A3Scout3: https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111888.1f254a516575.11283f4a516585
Is this fine?
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>>143669593
why not kill yourself right now and save the effort
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Oh shit nigga, can anyone confirm?
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>Free team storage for handing in recipes for veris set

FUCK YES MAN
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>>143669593
You don't need A3. A3 is shit. You'll need something like QS3-Scout3. Or maybe some A-R-S2-Scout3. Or even Archer-R-R-Scout3-Rogue, for 2barrage.

Or, well, you can go for Archer 3, but You won't need archer skills.
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>>143669223
>>143669287
Wot? Where is this from?
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Let's play a fun game of Spot the Bot!
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>>143669593
Leveling an archer3 is a pain, I recommend going archer2-ranger but if you really want to be a3scout3
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3111888.1f27314f516175.11213f46516585
Heavy shot isn't worth putting points into, it's just an oblique that pushes away enemies without bounce, better max swift step.
You dont need more than 6 points of cloaking because you can recast it after cooldown.
Fluflu isnt good to add because of the 60s cooldown and you only use it for provoke/aggro/mobbing
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#212277aa.11233551.1a2831517a.11243a4a55.1a213a435165

Is it shit?
Its basically PyroLinker with ThaumC2 instead of AlchC2

If it is shit, can someone explain why?
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>>143669669
Yes. You're quoting me, anon

You can see proof here, they even share the drop location in one of the comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN1ZjcMCruM
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>>143666970
I happened to come across a BR streaming on twitch farming those. He was at like 16k kills and supposedly no gem.
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>>143669782

Grima too
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>>143670218
Not unless you tell me what guild you're in.
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>>143670218
>hiding your name
literally check party members party and your name is listed
kill yourself
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>>143670317
I'm trying a very simular build
I would get thauma on c4 for the cute costume and another damage circle instead of linker2. I know having more points in joint penalty is good but I don't like the idea of going linker2 instead of balls deep linker3.
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>>143670317
Would probably be better to be pyrolinkthaum2
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Can anybody recommend a solo build that's also desirable for groups/endgame?
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>>143670934
>>143670875
hmm alright, so is that an avoid Link2?
What would i fill in C7 with, maybe Alch1?
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>>143671026
Anything with pelt
Anything with cleric2
Anything with linker

Check the OP
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>>143666970

QS3 just got nerfed into uselessness by a "bug" fix in the latest ktos patch.

Abandon build now and stop trying to farm a running shot gem.
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>>143671194
Yeah but can those solo at the point where you're supposed to party? I have extreme social anxiety and can't even fathom why >>143670218 3 people would be in a party at level 20-30.
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>>143671194

>linker

He said endgame, not a class that becomes insta-kick after 170.
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New to sapper, what's better to level after stockade, claymore or punji stake?
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>>143671285
Why are you playing an MMO if you want to solo the content? Just a question.
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>>143671524
Claymore would be better.
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>>143671285
kill yourself cancer of MMOs
social anxiety doesnt work like that you dumb shit
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>>143671524
1 Puniji
1 detonate
Rest Claymore
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>>143671285

>I have extreme social anxiety

>>/tumblr/
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>>143671285
They party for fun?
Remember that you are playing an MMO my sweet child
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>>143671535
Because while group play is nice, being entirely dependent on other people to be able to do anything is shit.
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>>143671535
Because I like playing games where I can trade with people and run through dungeons with randoms who don't want to have conversation with me.

>>143671706
Yes it does, you dumb shit. Please get cancer and die, but before that, kick your stupid fucking whore mom in the cunt for not aborting you.
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>>143651039
just give up mane
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>>143671839
>Yes it does, you dumb shit. Please get cancer and die, but before that, kick your stupid fucking whore mom in the cunt for not aborting you.
If you had social anxiety how come you're on 4chan, the most social of all anime taiwanese cartoon boards?
Are you >>143669223 in the image?
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>>143671804
>my sweet child
You are so mad right now.
>>143671795
Get cancer, brosef.

>weh weh why won't you talk to me please erp with me guuguu uuguuu kawii desu
It's like you don't realize that you don't belong here.
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>>143671535
Why are you living life if you just sit at home on your computer
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>>143671979
No?
Why play an MMO if you aren't gonna play with others?
Anyway If you want to go full solo don't ever go cleric, I'm 115 right now an everything is kinda being a pain in the ass
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>>143671979
good bait almost fell for it
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Good or bad Ranger C1 allocation? Unsure on the usefulness of High anchor and Crit shot.
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>>143672527
Good for ranger1
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Play whatever you want because people who matter don't mind and people mind don't matter!
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>>143670337

Shit niggaaaaa, this changes everything.
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>>143671979

>get cancer

Wow!

Anyway man, you want to kirito?

Go {nearly} full dex swordsman like pelt 1 > barb 3 > fencer/doppel or pelt 1 hoplite 2 (use the extra critical rate from finestra to dump some str/con) - > corsair 2 into dragoon

Clerics can solo well too, preferable int nuker.

Cleric 1 > Krivis 1 > Bokor 2 > Cleric 2 > Druid > PD

Just zaibas/cure/effigy things. carnivory and later hexi nto pandemic.

Archers are a little bit though imo. Put Pyro 2 > Linker (1) or Thauma or Pyro 3 into Sorc 2 > Warlock/FF works.
A good Kirito Wizard is the Wiz 3 Kino 3 build.
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0 Bots on Silute, only some Gold Sellers trying to fool people with international Cards. Feels good to be [SA] Silute

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/accounts-banned-for-abuse-may-27th-2016/280331

;^)
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I won't drop.

I won't fucking drop.

Wake me up already.
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>>143672915
I like you
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>>143673069
Do people on Br complain about english speakers like people complain about spanish speakers in Kali?
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>>143670337

>blue vubbe miner
>60 count 60s respawn

Fuck vubbe fighter gauntlets, red veris gloves new bis.
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>>143673465
They do sure in Overwatch
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>>143672527

If you're only at ranger1 then that's perfect
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>>143673465

I've seen few english speakers, but only a few complain bout this, the others usually try to help or thinks that you are joking roleplaying as a gringo
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>>143673540
Some skills like multi-shot, covering fire, cannon skills would probably still benefit more from Vubbe. But yes, this is BiS as far as tradeable items go, since there is Virtov and Lolipantsu.
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Worst archer build you'll ever see.


Stop me before I do it!

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#3114888g.1a23354a5161.15243145.15213f46586585.15213544
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>>143661668
Misinfo.
t. Barb 170 and stuck.
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>living in third world country
>in the middle of no where with shitty internet
>sometimes the internet dies for 1 second
>just one second
>no problem with MOBAs because dc for a second, it's cool, we'll reconnect you back right away
>not in ToS
>internet fucking dies for a second, game freezes
>booted out to login screen
>takes forever to relog back in
>internet dies again in the middle of the 20 years loading screen
>client shits itself
>and when the internet is well, the neighborhood internet cable gets stolen

I wish this game have a smarter reconnection feature.
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>>143673931

Looks fine for farming, here's a preview of that build though if you don't think it's your cup of tea

https://youtu.be/bFFpY_otEvw
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>>143674015

>>143661668 is not me but this was exactly what I did. Now I'm 262, leveled up just fine.

I didn't even take Pelt 1.
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>>143673714

I'm going to slot a magic arrow gem in it because I don't give a fuck
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>>143673714

Where one can get this recipe? Magnum Opus?
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>>143674060
>koreans
>knowing how to networks
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>>143674126

The absolute madman!

But he went archer 3, is this really worth? 1 of ranger seems better. Also, Reiter just for ms, sick farming speed.

On my head, I would pick ranger for SA and barrage but I'm not sure about this vs A3.

Musketeer for r7 safeness or maybe cannon for more aoe? Hahahaha!
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I found a gay ass popolion gem ._.
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>>143664240
enjoy being a glass cannon with no ammunition
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Where can I get a Templeshooter card?
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>>143674487

I assume it's a farming build so you go musket for bursting high hp mobs.

A2 r1 would be a lot nicer than a3, imo.
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>>143674206
What class are you playing?
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It's not like it has to deal any kind of damage
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#11333888.354555.1a3f416a7495.1f2a3f95
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Why does every sorc use Templeshooter?
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>have linker2 in party
>he links everybody in the party
>we don't share damage, must be Spiritual Chain that "Link party members to share buff effects with each other."
>cast subzero shield
>white slabs only spin around me
>I'm not sure if the effect is shared
>hear wizard say "Quick Casting~"
>I don't see the effect in my buff list
Is there any indications of this buff sharing? Actually, does this skill even work?
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#31418bbb.1a284a5161.152545.153545.1f3f455a

Is this good for the /tosg/ approved fletcher, or should I change anything?
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>>143675023
Pretty sure you're supposed to share after buffs are cast
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>>143675037

Get 1 skill point in everything.

I personally prefer crossfire maxed over barbed, but it's all preference.
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Miner's cave channel 3 Grim Reaper Klaipeda
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>>143675294
Grim reaper is an anti bot boss, you get nothing by defeating it.
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>>143674872

Sword -> High -> Barb 3 -> Doppel -> Templar

My main source of leveling/grinding comes from missions. For most people, it's okay EXP. For me, thanks to DPE, I could double the EXP gains from the 4 bosses and get decent EXP out of it every day instead.
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>>143675294
>grim reaper
grim reaper is a boss made for botters
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>>143674935
GoodBuild!
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>>143675023

sbz is impossible to share, and this is a good thing.

quickcast works (only the casting speed, not the attribute). he just need to buff after, dunno what happened.
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>>143675210
I'm a bit scared of leveling up crossfire too high, since fletcher isn't really meant to specialize on AoE and the SP consumption for crossfire spam seems unreasonable at lv 15. Barbed 15 SP use seems like it would be ok, since you barely have time to use it between magic arrow and your other skills.

With crossfire maxed, do you feel the SP drain is too much in grind parties and so on? And what about DMA? on paper it looks like a solid good bursty single target skill but everyone seems to skip it.
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>>143675408

Go pelt at r7
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>>143675363
>>143675478
Well it almost fucks me up while the bots just ignored it
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Are linkers actually useless later on? I feel like there are more and more enemies so I can see how cryo Tree can really be useful, but are they actually useless?
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how to make bots worthless:
make an anvil appear in every populated map every now and then
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How much does a Sissel Bracelet recipe go for, not made, on Klap?
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>>143675563

I just like having high level crossfire because it makes farming maps with thick mobs much easier.

Get to 1-2 shot mobs with 6-10k as opposed to 5-6 shots
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So is the cast speed per charge on Energy Bolt linear?

Because someone last thread was saying to leave it at level 3 for fast knockbacks with a Lv1 charge.

But would 5 be faster? It's not like I'm short on points.
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Since I see posts about people being disheartened about leveling solo and not being able to find people to do things with pop up quite often on here:

If you're on Klai, currently in the ~145-165 level range, and preferably NA timezone, and want people to level with, let me know! I have a guild / friend list full of people, come join the /tosg/ leveling cartel.

Just leave your IGN, or if you'd prefer not to I'll arrange a spot to meet at in game if there's interest.
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>>143675994
>linear
you mean static
yes
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>>143675994
Yes, 5 would be faster.
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R8 my Ebola AIDS rider build

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314166aa.1a284a5161.15243145.112a314a5573.1a21344a55
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>>143675994
>>143676105
>>143676117
Wasn't it 7 the magical number of instacast? I'm fairly sure it was
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>>143675910
Alright, I'll consider that. Do you keep the burn attribute on? Seems like it does negligible damage and just adds more SP cost.
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>>143676064
>/tosg/ leveling cartel.
how many layers does /tosg/ have?
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>>143676301
That varies with your ping. Not everyone's blessed with good ping.
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WTB Petamion
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>>143656931
>Druid

Well, there's your problem.
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So how long does it take for the stone of requests to spawn in the Ibre Plateau? It disappeared when i went around hunting for materials
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>>143676985
4 hours
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>>143660924
>He can't solo an entire wave of bees all on his own, thus making the minute wait too long
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>>143676606
How much do they cost in Klapistan?
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>Boss has reflects damage

CANCER
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>>143671239
>bug
the mouse atk faster ?
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>>143677348
6m famalamadingdong.
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Who has the cutest summons in ToS? Bokor?
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>>143665937
Clarion a cute!
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>>143677694
Sorc has cute bosses and bats and salami and cats.
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>>143677440

Yes, animation cancelling was removed for archers.

QS3 instantly became dead weight without a dedicated chrono life support team on standby.
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>>143676064
Klai is fine since it has guilds, its the other servers that need help.
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>>143676338

If you have Manamana and some elemental property attack on head gear and blessing buffs, the burn does a total of 9 ticks with all that bonus elemental damage.

So you're looking at about 4-5k damage or so from the burn total.

It's kinda nice, to be honest. If they ever decide to fix it where the burn scales with your physical attack by 100% instead of 10%, it might actually be considered a real aoe skill.
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>>143668169
Why can't you understand that it's to combat the bots!?
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>>143677694
Sorcerer has Fire Lord, who is the cutest boss summon. Necro has Corpse Tower. Sorc is cuter, just slightly.
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Post cute builds, that is viable stuff with cute outfits. I already have chrono/cryo
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https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314441aa.1a274a5162.1f314f546575.1a24314a55
Is this build any good? Is memerider good for endgame content?
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>>143678162

Some ET fuccboi runs this right now and it performs decently.

Not quite frost cloud tier but it might be the best archers have for now
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>>143675023
Who are you quoting moron?
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>>143678162
>>143678342
It's shit in iToS, Steady Aim is heavily nerfed here.
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>Go Oracle
>Cast Counter Spell
>It wipes out everything, including friendly/your own shit

k
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>>143678452
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/green-text-stories
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>start playing
>fooling around, no idea what I'm doing
>suddenly get some armor I have no clue where it came from
>looks pretty good, use it
>see people mentioning it a lot
>go anvil it

Is this really best armor for low level? What even drops it? I baguely recall seeing a big monster and just bashing it in the face when getting the armor, but I thought that was a quest monster or something.
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>>143678495

Yeah, but you can maintain the buff up 100% of the time for retreat shot and whatever other burst sr2's have, then you wait for retreat shot to come off cd and you hold your steady aim to use it again with retreat.
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>>143678553
>not being the master ruseman
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>>143678553
>He doesn't even know about Land Protector
lmaoing at your life
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>>143656931
>went diev/druid rather than cleric2/diev/sadhu2/druid

literally breezed that with possession
>hurr durr sadhu is shit
sadhu 3 (until they fix transmit prana) and 1 are shit, possession is one of the hardest hitting magic in the game, aoe, easy to land despite everyone moaning, multitarget and cc.
>>
Which Swordie classes boost Strike damage?
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How 2 easy fletcher?

A 2 -> Ranger 2 > Fletcher 3

Or Ranger 1 only? If I keep ranger at c1, which class should I pick as a filler?
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>>143678154

A1 ranger1 hunter1 scout1 rogue1 falcon1 musket1

You get all the cute costumes and a cute penguin and a cute falcon
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>>143678885
It adds another line of damage for your autos that can be further enhanced with blessing, arde dagger and other source.
need the full 4 parts though.
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>>143678885
you'll be using it till 170s
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>>143679060
I breezed through them pretty fast and comfy
World Tree and Owls don't fuck around
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>>143678885
It's sort of a miniboss. Go back and camp it with the gorillion other people you see. You need the whole set because that extra line of damage to your attacks makes all the difference in the world, no matter how small it looks.
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>>143678885
It's the set that's good m8
Esp since you are a cleric you want the full set since you'll be auto-attacking a lottt
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>>143679093

Drop ranger2 and pick up scout1 or wugu1.
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>>143678885
>cleric
go straight back and camp it out with a party since you'll be using it till 200
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>>143656931
>>143679060
>mfw instakilled those with turn undead.
Come at me.
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>>143678885
Get the other 3 pieces.

AND SPEND YOUR TP AT THE TP LADY

GET A SOUL CRYSTAL AND 1 MEGAPHONE
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>>143679329
Turn Undead is the most hilarious spell ever, people constantly shit on it but only one point on my Diev/Pally is making all dungeon runs so fast it`s ridiculous.
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>>143661668
>Past 175 there is 0 point in saving cards.
have fun getting stuck at 230 if you waste your cards
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>>143679089
Please respond, can't find anything else than Rodelero's High Kick
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What exactly triggers the flamingoes in Absenta Reservoir? It simple won't appear in one of my chars.
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>>143679192
>>143679226
>>143679317
>playing Cleric
>replaced the whole set by lv 70 with Rokas robe and 2/4 Earth cloth set
Cafrisun is overated.
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>>143680101
that's the one
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>>143680101
Slithering with attribute and High Kick are it. Buddy with a wizard using Lethargy if you want more strike damage.
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>>143680258
>using earth set at level 70
For what reason?
Its okay at level 40-50~ but from 75 onwards its garbage against non-earth mobs.
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>>143680194
I think it's just a timed event.
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>>143680403
2/4
Not the whole set, in fact only pants and boots
>>
Where do I grind at 228?
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>cafrisun is overrated

kek

you need to be very bad to not abuse cafrisun until 170 or more depending on your build.

it speed up things a lot for almost any class.

jump autoatk, mother fuckers.

but ofc, switch to your full dps set when needed (i.e rokas robe + tomb gloves + ravinipede).

Interesting fact is that this dps set is also 3 pieces of cloth, put another cloth legs and you're done to deal with magic damage too.
>>
fencer or doppel whats better ?
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>>143680403

Plate Pants and plate boots combined gives more hp than any other option right now
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>>143680258
Well I mean, it speeds a lot of the stuff up, esp for a cleric
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>>143680680

I'm pretty much using the cafrisun set on my krivis3 and just auto attacking in between cute and zaibas cool downs, it's pretty nice damage
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>you realize swordsman is a gimped class and you'd do much better as an archer
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>>143680971
But are you having fun with a swordsman?
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>>143681019
>negative realization
>after playing nonstop for months
what do you think
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>>143680763
He's talking about Cloth set, also what do you mean by 5con giving more HP than Virtov Plate Pants or Grynas set? You mean for low levels then?
>>143680258
Unless you're INT cleric or a Monk, you wouldn't find any other equipment that would boost your DPS as much as Cafrisun.
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>>143680259
>>143680306
How long do those two last for?
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>>143681174
I'm sorry anon, but at least you have the team exp boost right?
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How do you get more pendulums?
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>>143680739
doppelgoon
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>>143680551
It goes Alemeth, Igti Coast, Evacuation, Storage, Maven Abbey. You can also just grind on a map where mobs are close to 228. You still have quests up to 232 anyway
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Companion stats, full tank? What equipment can it use?
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>>143680420
Should i leave my char at the spot or keep walking near it? Idk what to do.
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>>143682002
You share HP, Phys def, and Eva with your Companion. So yes, HP.
Equipment? Still not implemented
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>no signs of another "Refresh!" update any time soon.
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>>143682002

It uses a character slot.
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>>143681853
You get 1 (one) Pendulum and you can use it indefinitely as long as you are able to acquire "clues" from killing monsters.
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>>143682323
I hope you're fucking joking
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>>143682456
He isn't
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>>143682456
He's not, it really does. But it also adds towards your team level.
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Talking about cloth and swordsman, I just finished my vs magic set.

I'm going fencer so I've hard that the sp consumption is retarded, but I'm not putting any points into spr.

What I got now:

Librarian Robe:
54 phys def + 20 mdef

Protas Trousers:
+10 SPR (2 mdef)
mdef +7

Roxona Gloves
Physical atk +5
Lightning damage +10

Archmage Boots
Evasion 71 (decent evasion)
SP +234


My MAXIMUM SP goes from 994 to 1458 with everything on, and my cloth masterie is lv 10, nearly 50% increase.

The damage reduction from magic mobs is noticiable because of the 4 cloth 15% reduction, but the flat also helps.

too bad my trinket's mdef are pretty bad (zacharial bangle, bearkaras = 7 con +3 rest 67 mdef combined. Strenght pendant +35. total mdef = 223 and 575 evasion with guardian.

I'm still dodging everything but also tanking magic damage as well. They are also pretty cheap, except the gloves, but I had it from my wizard main anyway.

Interesting fact about the gloves is the unusual physical damage and elemental damage, so I'm not losing too much dps with this.
I could get a better mdef pants, but +10 SPR is fucking too much to ignore for just some extra flat mdef and extra flat physical damage.

i'm going to slap 2x lv 4 blue gems on my gloves and I hope to have a decent sp regen/pool to save some money, SP potions aren't getting cheaper here in the monkey server. In fact, they are reaching 1.2k each.
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>>143681901
What mob do you primarily fight at those maps after Alemeth?
I want to check their elements, armor and attack type. I know Truffle is lightning, leather and strike.
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>>143682569
The reason potions aren't getting cheaper in varena is due to the fact dilgele is unpurchasable from bots boosting the prices insanely
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>>143682401
Thats pretty strange, mine disappeared after a few treasure hunts
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>>143682569
>he thinks 1500 sp is enough
you're still going to be chugging jewpots anon, thats not going to change.
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How much crit rate do I get if I go full DEX at level 280?
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>>143682559
>>143682509
>>143682323
Do companions only get exp when they get the killing blow?
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>>143683002
As much as your dex if you're naked.
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>token prices skyrocketed to 800k+
any chance they'll go down before next maintenance?
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>>143683126
As long as you have them out it'll get XP.
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>>143682569
You're going to be shelling out hundreds of alchemist 10 sp pots no matter what you do anon, this isn't going to change anyday soon.
Not even with veniers +19 spr and full cloth will you have enough spr.
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Archer going Fletcher here, what to do with my first vubbe blood drop? Keep it to make gloves or trade for a token?
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>>143682569
Don't use cloth chest piece for pve because it's weak against slash. Your chest piece alone determines your armor type. Getting double Glass Bracelets will boost your mdef really well. The 15% reduction from the set is actually just +15 mdef so it's not really as good as you may think
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>Swordsman now receives 30% more damage from STR

DEX builds BTFO
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>>143683239
>he thinks itos is ktos
Just like how we got all the other buffs right fampai :^)
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>>143683127
Not exaclty, Archers get critical rate based on character level.

At 280 they have 56 + DEX, everyone else has 0 + DEX.
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>>143683239
>implying any swordsman build goes dex
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>>143683416
Don't expect to hit anyone if you don't.
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>>143683239
First of all STR has always been superior than DEX simple because of the fact that it's a lot easier to get Crit Rate with items and that STR has a bonus from ranking up. DEX stat for accuracy is a non-factor because you are just able to get them by upgrading gloves.
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>>143683319
>Playing iToS

AYYYYY
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>>143683525
>muh pvp minigame of 2fps hoglan
The only use of dex is crit rate and evasion, the accuracy buff might as well be non-existent
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>>143683525
my swordsman is high level and can hit everything, except in pvp
but if i wanted pvp on swordsman i'd have gone for a gimmick pvp build
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How long does it take to reach rank 6
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>>143683525
Upgrade your gloves fampai.
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>>143683535
>all this missinfo
No anon, dex has ALWAYS been superior to str due to the existence of evasion and crit rate (inb4 meme about easily getting good crit rate with level 10 green gems + double sissel)
>>143683741
Took me from f2p release date to yesterday to get there as a swordie, probs faster if you aren't a swordie
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>>143683761
Unless there are gloves out there that give +300 accuracy you ain't gonna hit any archers, son.
Better save that silver to overgrade them to +20 or something.
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>Carve Attack Lv.10 is better than Double Punch Lv.5

Why is this allowed?
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>>143683416
Catagoon is a DEX build
But thats for PvP where you need to have high DEX
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>>143683535
>trying this hard to get kids to stack str and fail miserably due to no dodge
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>>143682791
>dilgele prices
what are the prices of them on iToS?
>>143683813
>dex has ALWAYS been superior to str due to the existence of evasion and crit rate
But what's the point of high crit rate when your crits deal 100% damage without a high amount of critical attack against anyone with even an inch of crit resist?
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>>143683813
>all this missinfo
No anon, str has ALWAYS been superior to dex due to the existence of extra damage and crit damage (inb4 meme about easily getting good crit damage with level 10 yellow gems + golden falchion)
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>>143684032
>he doesn't know crit resistance stays consistent for 200+ content at around 30-50
Ebic meme, I love this crit resist meme.
The argument you SHOULD'VE used instead is about how dex scales badly at level 500+ due to the formula for crit needing more and more dex.
Ofc the reply would've been that the game won't even live till rank 8 much less level 500
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>>143683184
lol nope

Hope you stocked up.

I certainly hope you didn't waste your shekels on less important shit.
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SPR is superiorest
>Status resist
>Magic defense
>SP recovery
>Max SP
>Block penetration
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>>143684117
>Extra 200-300 damage meaning anything when you're spending half the time playing like a pussy to not die
All the memers about str being superior has never ever actually played a swordsman.
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>all this STR vs DEX argument
>while I'm sitting here staring at this stat reset pot as a level 260+ swordie with 200 dex invested in
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>>143683813
>dex has ALWAYS been superior
It's like you don't even know what Crit Attack is. I know you're trying your best to shitpost but at least try to make sense.

>>143683857
There are gloves that give +100 accuracy. You know DEX to accuracy ratio is 1:1 right?
Using your 300 accuracy as an example, you would need an increase of 300 DEX.
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>>143684459
>hybrid build
hybrid builds have always been horrid, both full str and full dex are significantly superior due to how crit rate works (i.e. the high level you are, the more crit rate you need to crit the same enemy due to level/42 meme)
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>>143684525
Nope, that'd be 200 DEX + the gloves, which is far reasonable.
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which goddess wud u fug
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>>143684525
>muh crit attack will totally matter when I have zero survivability
>muh crit attack will totally matter when I can't crit without full whale mode
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>>143684394
>Extra 200-300
It's 630 + 630 crit damage.
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>>143684581

I'm just saying since I have this pot, I have my options whether to go full STR, full DEX, or not drink the potion at all.

So far, though, I'm dealing decent damage as a swordie, I'm doing well in PvP, not much problem in PvE and I'm still having fun.
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>swordmen
>any stat except reroll stat
wew
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>>143684809
>630 crit damage which will never happen because you don't have crit rate
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>>143684809
It's 819 + 630 with the new update
>>143684780
You can't get killed by stuff that is dead.
>>143685015
Your crit rate is worth shit against anyone with some CON even as full dex, you won't get more than 30% chance. Meanwhile as a full STR you can get 819 extra no crit damage plus 630 bonus crit damage and still get around 10% crit chance with gems.
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>all these swordsman arguing about Crit e-penis length
>mfw FULL CON EleC3
>mfw still outdamage all Swordies
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>>143684809
>630 extra damage
>meanwhile a crit gives a 1.5x increase to skill damage in the many thousands range (e.g.gay bulge has 3200 skill damage which with a crit gives an additional 1600 damage).
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>>143684780
Nice meme arrows, expected nothing less from someone who don't know what to say because they don't actually play the game. Swordsman actually have bonus DEF and a higher HP modifier compared to the other classes. You can't dodge magic with your EVA either. You would know if you played the game.
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Okay, legit question, try not to be mean. If say I go full STR, crit chance and crit rate is irrelevant to me I'm a swordie I'm not gonna compare to the WWWEEEW lads.

How the hell am I gonna survive without dodging all these spiral arrows?
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>>143685268
>bonus def and higher hp
Every time I see an archer or mage meme like this I want to strangle them because they don't seem to understand that swordies have to get WITHIN MELEE RANGE.
Your def and higher hp means all of jack and shit, mostly shit.
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>>143685152
>not even 200 extra damage if you go full STR autism mode
>people think it's gonna change anything at all
wew
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>>143683201

Anyone? I honestly don't know what end game gear I should be looking for, and those extra 99 tp seem nice.
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>the forum goers know what stats go for what classes
>redditards know what stats go for what classes
>some brazil kindergarden fanbase probably know what goes best for what classes
>meanwhile instead of using their braincells to think for even the simplest of shitty things in badly designed games, /tosg/ spends their every waking hour crossboarding /jp/ to steal ohayou and anime images to ERP and circlejerk with
bravo /tosg/
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>>143685152
>against anyone with con
>which means talking about pvp
Yeah because going full str will totally let you hit people right?
If you're not talking about pvp than find a SINGLE grind spot where the enemy have enough con to matter.
Also as full dex, you WILL hit your crit rate cap, not 30% like you meme.
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>>143685396
Defense isn't a meme.
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Garnets worth anything?
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>>143683535
>>143683813
>>143684525
>>143684780
Full DEX here. Stop confusing my build. Is it really worth getting STR. I'm not convinced of the 1:1 meme because it seems like a squishy turret who can miss.

>>143685425
What are mages and other archers.
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>>143685152
>You can't get killed by stuff that is dead.
t. under level 200 shitter whos never played a swordsman at higher levels

I swear that the shitters who meme about full str don't actually have a swordie, either that or they are missinfo fags.
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>>143685428
It's 819 + 630(if crit, 10% chances) extra damage vs your shitty 30% at much chances for 1.5x damage
>>143685428
>Not even 200 extra damage
What?
>>143685658
Monsters get quite some crit resistance and you also crit less depending on their level, you won't get more than 30% unless you gear for crits.
Even then you won't go over 50% crit chances, clerics, archers and mages will blow your shit because you can't dodge them and a STR swordie with accuracy gems/gear will still hit you for a lot more damage.
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I'm a Monk. Is it better for me to be full STR or full DEX?
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>All this shitposting
As someone who stat reseted from full Strength to full dex, I can safely tell you that full strength WILL ALWAYS consistently out-damage full dex.

So why did I stat reset to full dex?
Because full strength is fucking trash tier and even with level 42 plate and 2 roxas + 2 grynas, you still will nearly die in every fight as a swordsman.

If you're only looking at theoretical dps than strength will actually beat dex but good luck putting out that dps when half the time you're running around in circles trying not to die.
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>>143686206
>I'm a Monk
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>>143686206
Full INT, cuz the only thing you have that's useful and scales with stats is Heal.
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>>143686206
Stop it
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>>143685942
A 1.5x increase in damage at r7 is anhywhere from 1500-2000+ damage bonus.
And no its nowhere near 30%, its closer to 60-70% even with no amazing gear besides green gems.
This isn't even mentioning the issues of accuracy and evasion.
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>>143686467
>>143686306
>>143686281
pls guys im serious
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>>143686579
he should fucking kys himself out of this existence to be q h
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>>143685942
Full dex will hit the crit rate cap at 80% with only greens whilst full str with greens will barely reach 10%. The skill damage bonus of 1.5x is alot higher than any amount of crit attack which happens 10% of the time.
I can even provide you calculations if you're adamant about something you've never tried.
The only reason whatsoever to go high str (no no-one goes full str you sub 220 shitter) is if you're a doppelgoon to benefit from deeds but even than going full dex will give similar damage outputs.
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>>143686579
That's our boy Pios. Gonna run you out of business Please.
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>>143686206
Depends on your build. If you went Priest Monk you need loads of SPR ontop of STR and/or DEX, Diev Monk can get away with either full STR or full DEX depending on what you want to do, all other Monk builds are fucking retarded and not worth considering.
If you think you will put the time in to get really good gear on that character, go full DEX (Spoilers, you won't since nobody will ever want to bring you to ET where the best gear is). Otherwise a mix or even full STR is adequate and won't make a difference.
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>>143686564
So you're saying swordman deals 4k damage with any skill to get that 1500-2000 bonus from a crit?
Nice meme.
>>143686942
Go ahead, do so and show me your 80% crit.
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https://tos.neet.tv/quests/19061
But there isn't a Thaum Master in Fedimian???
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open world pking would be a great addition to the anti-bot efforts.
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>>143683214

Check the mechanics, it's actually 15%. About the armor, it's just a quick swap to any other. Same way we switch our plate armro when facing strike damage.

We just use cloth armor for magic.
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Planning making a diev/plage doctor ~ toy hammer + arde is worth investing?
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>>143687016
>So you're saying swordman deals 4k damage with any skill to get that 1500-2000 bonus from a crit?
>Nice meme.
So you've been memeing this whole time without actually having ever played the class or did what you preached.
Now I'm 100% sure you're missinfo fag because you're talking about stuff without having any actual experience.
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>>143687037
>https://tos.neet.tv/quests/19061
Gateway of the Great King
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>>143687069
Toy Hammer is trash for anything but Chap, please stop assuming rare things are good and actually think about it.
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>>143687003
Thanks anon I'm going full STR so this sounds OK to me
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>>143687016
oh so you don't know what you're talking about whatsoever
thanks for proving my points you retarded theory crafter
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>be a spy
>join futureproof
>screencap conversations
>been saving them for a while now
>planning to send them to imc to get people banned for various against-the-rules faggotry.

You're welcome.
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>>143687069
Toy Hammer really isn't worth the price. Most of the 1mil+ weapons for Clerics aren't that good. You're better off with the 200k-500k ones or even less if you don't wanna waste too much money, it doesn't make that much of a difference.
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>>143686579
Orsha has been my hometown way before Please though.
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>>143686579
Futureshitters, gentlemen
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>>143687340
post some embarassing/cringey stuff

you saved that too right?
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>>143687191
>>143687332
>Show me the proof
>HAHA YOU'RE A DISINFO MEME

Destroyed.
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>>143687340
>be discord
>try and bring about distrust between fellow anons because I want the game to die and because I'm an attention whore yet my guilds not getting any attention like FP
thats what I'm reading from this
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>>143687052
Have you tested the 5%-15% dmg reduction? Because you can see the flat bonus increase in your stats from wearing 3-4 set pieces.
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Whats the best armor type to use against spiral arrow memes?
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>>143687685
Plate
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>>143687340
>various against-the-rules faggotry
I'm online most of the time and I never see this shit. Nice try shitposter-kun at least prove it with a screen shot
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>>143687685
Ghost.
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>>143687495
>be in discord
>be in futureproof
>enjoy both
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>>143687016
((425+128+)- 50)*(42/280)=75.45
wow I'm off by 5% ;^)
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>fall for meme archer
>got bored

Alright /tosg/ choose my new alt.
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>>143687495
I could namedrop the 5 people from FP in discord, but

>falling for futureproof/discord shitposting
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>>143687191
>>143686942
>>143687340
>I can even provide you calculations if you're adamant about something you've never tried.

Still waiting.
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Guys, about this str x dex on swordsman...

We got some relates a few thread ago about a fencer anon who went a full str build and was going to reroll because he couldn't dodge, couldn't tank and the dps was still subpar in comparison to you know what.

From my point of view as a low level (170) dex barb but 280 wizard, dodge is reliable and the damage is not so bad in comparison to a full str. ofc full str doest a better dps and hasa higher cap thanks to whale gear, but i feel that we can do the job better by going dex > con, be it pvp or pve in general.

Assuming DPS swordsman becomes really a thing here (i.e memelyner + str buffs) and a slot to FULL DPS swordsman becomes more and more desirable, things will work differently, but as it is now, at least as having a swordsman alt to chill and for general party purposes (i.e tanking), dex + guardian + swash + your subpar cc/dps is the best you can do right now.
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>>143687685
Leather, obviously.
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>>143688106
my 5 demands you to run a rodelero 3
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is knockback cancelled by dispellers?
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>>143687016
((421+128)- 100)*(42/280)= 67.35
This is best case scenario but unfortunately most have around 25-50 crit resist so it would be:
((421+128)- 25)*(42/280)= 78.6
May have missed a few bonus points here and there.
>>143688182
Please go on and now prove that str is better than dex fampai.
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>>143687840
>>143687754

those don't apply to archer missile attacks
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>>143688256
Knockback isn't a debuff, so no.
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>>143688367
>421

Where are you getting that 421 from?
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>>143688223
Oh I didn't think of that

I actually wanted to level plate armor mastery first for that extra 2k hp or whatever but this might be better with high dex
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>>143687685
Stone skin.
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>>143678885
Start upgrading junk only after you've maxed all the attributes.
Unfortunately this game has mostly leveled junk so you are going to throw all low-level items anyway. (or keep them for new char).
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>>143687685
Fade
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Is this pay2win game?

Pay2play? Any restrictions?
>>
most overrated gear
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>>143688474
Do you honestly not know the crit rate formula?
Are you seriously trying to argue full str is better when you don't even know how the formula works?
Holy shit you really are retarded.
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Is this rare? Just dropped for me on Forest of Prayer
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>>143688697
Its free, but you really need to buy a token to enjoy the game as its meant. You can buy it with real money or with the ingame currency though.
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>>143688702
Roxona.
People still think this is iCBT2.
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>>143688093
>>143688367
you forgot the gear which would give around another 10-20 dex so both your calcs are wrong, this isn't even memeing like the full str dude with his double sissels or anything else but just basic high level gear will give you 10-20+ bonus in dex.
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Where do I level at 105 I did all the quests in this level already
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>>143679103
p-penguin?
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>>143688991
kanteen forest, owl grave, orasha side merchant place, dungeons, missions, grind.
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>>143688991
Run 90 dungeon and Fedi missions. Install BetterQuest.
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How does that free tp thing work? Do I need to keep the token in my inventory or can I use it and still get the tp? My first token is about to run out and I'm not sure if I should pop my 2nd one
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>>143688723
>The formula for determining the percentage chance of performing a critical attack is currently up for debate and requires further testing

All you guys are doing is arguing with imaginary numbers.
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Odds I keep grinding for that thing I want. Even and I'll fucking buy them from the market.
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Tfw this whole thread is dex vs str meme argument about a class that is useless either way outside pelt 1 swashbuckling and party bonus exp
>>143689161
If you use it, you get 7 bonus days, if you keep it in inventory, you get 99tp is how I'm understanding it
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>>143689161
Also want to know.
My 60 day token will expire in less than 6 days,
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Where can I get more cards to upgrade those that I already have?
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>>143688367
>421

How to get 421 dex naturally? Most I get is 391
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>>143688746
It's a rare drop but not very useful outside of very specific PvP scenarios that never happen. If you don't want it for yourself you might as well NPC it it's that cheap.
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>>143689203
>He didn't see the ktos patch notes
What meme is this?
Now I know you for a FACT you're missinfoing if you don't even know simple things like this.
I'm done arguing with you, the other dude can bang his head against a brick wall now since I'm done with someone this retarded.
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>>143689368
>What is bonus points
Main quest revelations and statue of whatsitcalled goddess give bonus points.
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>>143689394
Do you know if there's an item that converts a percentage of your damage to lightning damage? It would be useful if an item like that existed
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>>143689650
a percentage of damage taken to lightning damage
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>>143689616
I only have 20 bonus points so far
Also
+128 what
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>>143689445
>ktos patch notes
source oh god if this is going to break my archer on kToS
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so what I'm getting from this thread is to reroll my full str highlander and than go full dex?
because everyone seems to be saying dex is better
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>going pyro2-link1-chrono3
what stat spread would you guys recommend?

And which pyro skills should I invest in?

please respond or I roll monk
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>>143689817
read the original post>>143686942
the 128 is obviously from green gems
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>>143689910
2int 1 con since you want to do some subpar dps build with pyro2 instead of just geting link2 and be the better support
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>>143689910
>zero damage
>shit support
Either go linker 2 or pyro 3 unless you just want to level fast
Either way you will at best only do WB because no-one takes a non cyro3chrono3 into et.
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>>143689910
INT/CON
Max Fireball, at least permanent Ground, at least max Fire Pillar, the rest in Enchant Fire. Fire Wall is only worth if it you go Pyro 3 with Linker.
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Do orange minos hoofs exist? Ive been killing them for the past 20 minutes and not one has dropped
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>>143690043
So green gems gives an extra 13.05% crit rate? Neat
>>143689445
What patch notes? DEX buffed or nerfed? I only saw STR buffed and made me doubt on rerolling into STR or not
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>>143688679
What attributes? My character's? Because honestly upgrading that armor seemed better than punching mobs forever until something better dropped, and I see equipment ranks being locked to a particular level, with next one being like level 41 or something like that.
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How much con do clerics need
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>>143690526
My girlfriend's priest has only put 20 points into CON and she's level 205 and has no trouble surviving.
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What's the optimal time to refresh your wait in party queue for missions again?

2 minutes?
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Are there any classes or builds that are pretty much banned/not accepted into endgame aside from Monk?

I'm tempted to do some weird Cryo/Necro thing but I don't know how well it will sit with everybody else.
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>>143651598
You want full/high str for wugushi. Put in a bit of con too.
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>>143690526
Not much, 30-40 if you're not confident in your ability to dodge?
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>>143690327
Hes most likely talking about the transparency notes ages ago where nexon/imc was forced by the koreans to release the formula for alot of stats and how they're calced.
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>>143690526
For PvE? 0 CON. You're a support, not a tank. Beetleback, Grynas Set, Max Petamion/Conqueror, Cata Club or Magas Rod will give you more than enough HP.
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>>143690770
There's no """"Endgame""""

if you mean ET yeah
it's pretty much all of them except the best meme builds
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Can you use linker link spells in mouse mode?
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>>143690806
Where can I find them?
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>>143690201
Cryo1 Linker2 Chrono3 is just as good in ET, which one you go with really just depends on what you go with for DPS. If you do the memetastic Ele + QS/Falc/Musk + FS Cleric + Pelt3Squire3 set up the CryoLinker option is slightly better, if you go with 2 DPS that have AoE options Cryo3 will be preferable. If you go Pyro all hope is lost though, wasting that rank on a slightly less painful leveling experience when you could get amazing CC with Freeze instead is retarded af
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Why are Monks so hated?
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>>143690843
Stop your misinfo, you fucking faggot.

Don't listen to this cocksucker. Support usually has a lot of con since nothing else really scales well, and sp potions make up for any low mana pool.
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>>143690989
because you masturbate to anime at night you little shit
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>>143690770
Depends on what you mean by endgame.
Only meta builds like elememe, pelt3 or cyrochrono get into ET which is basically the only TRUE endgame there is currently.
If you're just talking about pve than basically everything works so long as you have a guild/irl friends.
If not than no pelt swordies are unwanted, monks are generally unwanted (even through its a meme and they're not as bad as tosg memes them to be), etc.
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>>143690526
As much as you want. If you are the support cleric then you dying means the entire party wipes in the more difficult content. Meanwhile INT and SPR don't scale all that well. Most clerics I know that do ET went for around 20-25k HP at lv280
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>>143690770

Cryo 3 is always good, Necro 2 dps is ok if you're willing to throw acid demonstration levels of costs on corpse cannon. throw linker in the mix and parties will love you anyway. Psychokino brings a better dps/fun/bossing, but the cost of not having linker to trush things with the necro skills is a high price to pay for the memewall combo, and since kino 1 itself sux at pvm since no PP's stun and low bae damage pp, you must really consider going linker.

Just go 4:1 int con or something like this, you'll do fine. But your dps will be weaker than mementalist or wiz 3 necro 2 and your support ain't going to be as good as chrono 3 or cryo 3 kino 3.

It's a jack' of build but a definitely fun AND useful one.
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>>143690071
>>143690201

I thought link1 was enough since link2 only goes from 5 to 8 linked targets, or is the buff sharing better than people say?

And some other guy said pyro 2 is enough dps even for late game so Idk

Should I do pyro3chrono3 instead? sounds bad... I thought linker1 would compare well with cryo3.

Why is cryo3 good anyways? I thought it was only good for pvp.

>>143690232

Thanks mate, will do that
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>>143691007
How is that misinfo? Do you even play the game?
Grynas Set = 860 + 1020
Cata Club = 1496
Conqueror = 916
Beetleback = 1615
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>>143683201
>>143685510

Please.
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>>143690961

>pyro is a waste

yeah, surely, that's why koreans are reaching floor 15 with DPS pyro linker + mementalist + dps swordsman (which we really lack here) + swash man + 1 supp cleric.

Chrono helps bad parties reachs some more floors, but the good ones aren't playing around a hastebot. you can say pass is good. It IS good, but why pass when you can have another 100% uptime dps?
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>>143690961
Pyro is okay as chrono if you don't mind not getting into ET but than again whats the point of going chrono if you don't want to get into et.
World bosses are pretty dull and pve later on is garbage grind due to insane health values so really ET is your only real "goal" endgame and for that pyro as chrono is like you said worthless.
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>>143690526
100+.
You're an healer, you're supposed to stay alive and keep your team alive, not to do damage.
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>>143690843
That's a very broad question, there's different types of Clerics.

If you're full support: Probably not much because you won't be in the heat of the action, you're just a buff/heal slave. Alternatively you could go full CON and just be a fortress, leveling will suck ever harder for you though.

If you're DPS: A moderate mix of your DPS stat and CON. People generally do 30-50 CON and the rest in their main stat but it really just depends how confident you are with the HP you have. Just feel it out.

If you're a hybrid support/DPS: Pretty much as DPS. You're going to be in the action so you should be moderately tanky at least.
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>>143691440
Your arguments are irelevant since ktos =/= itos as swordies here in itos don't have 0 cd highlander skills to spam.
The koreans also have had tons of balance patches for other classes INCLUDING pyro which is why it works for them.
Itos scene is all about elememe + pass + pelt3.
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>>143691706
Pyro has had no significant in changes in kToS so it's absolutely just as viable in iToS.
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>>143691413
Does Ludas or Beetle give more hp?
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Im kinda curious which class benefit from toy hammer because I see they are kinda demanded.
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>>143691440

Kinda outdated, pyrothaum is by and large the meta on ktos.

itos still hasn't caught on for some reason, even though we got the linker nerf too

linker still good for pvp though
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linker2>cryo3
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>>143688093
>((425+128+)- 50)*(42/280)=75.45
The fuck you got this formula from?
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>>143671368
> Linker
> Bad endgame

???
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Don't take any screenshots if you have the quest addon visible. People are getting banned for it.

Doesn't seem to be detectable yet, so it's just shitbags who post other people's screenshots on the forums.
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>>143691906
chaplain, bots and corsairs mostly.
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>>143691440
>that's why koreans are reaching floor 15 with DPS pyro linker
That link you posted with that alchemist Pyro Linker, you should read the uploader's comment. He said that party set up is unable to clear ET floors 1-5 anymore. Pyro is shit so stop trying to bait people into playing one. I know people who are lv. 260+ pyro3 in the game and even THEY know the damage is bad.
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>>143691706

To be fair, the buffs to pyromancer's skills aren't worth mentioning in pyro 2's case, but the swordsman issue is a crucial one, I think we get better chances by having another elememe instead of the chronomancer or even "dps" utility cleric and some sort of archer doing the physical dps role somehow, we just need to figure it out.
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>>143691950

never take linker 2

you take linker 1 or linker 3

and linker 3 is for a gimmick build with 55% downtime
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>>143691865
I think Ludas gives more for Swordies since they have higher CON ratio but Beetleback is better for everyone else
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>>143692010
>I cannot google
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>>143692039
>tfw running clean this entire time

feels good being a true mmoer
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>>143691440
Pyro1 with Chrono is a waste, yes. You aren't going to do shit for damage with that one circle of Pyro in your support build. I never said Pyro was fundamentally bad, it's multi hits scale pretty fucking well. Wiz3Pyro3War is by far the best single target damage you can get from the Wizard tree as long as nobody knocks your Fireballs around.

You really shouldn't bring kToS into this argument by the way, the balance is way different. Our Linker got some very significant nerfs while their Pyros got some very significant buffs.
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>>143691906
They're not demanded, they were cheaper than Arde Dagger when the game released. The only reason they're so expensive is because it's a MEME weapon. Literal meme weapon, *honk honk boom*. Explosion damage is fucking garbage unless you go full STR retard auto-attack build.
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>Dragoon Master & Kabbalist Master both have the exact same fucking hair
>It matches neither of their character arts

Why
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who /doingeverysinglequestinthegamebutlowlevelrepeatables/ here?
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>>143691906
corsairs have insane damage with toy hammers and bots like using it too for some reason
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>>143691906
>>143692316

Fasted endgame aoe farming in the game in the game if you're a c2 corsair with .00005ms ping :^)
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>>143691823
Are you shitting me, they got loads of buffs that we never saw. Including Hellsbreath giving 50% extra fire damage on its targets for 9s
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>>143692446
>tfw bots can afford nicer gear than you
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>>143691259
unlimited targets>8>5
ergo - cryo is well liked
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>>143692395
The only repeatable one I hate is the crystal mine one
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>>143692219
Google what? "ToS Critical rate formula" results have nothing like that.
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>>143692381
>Orsha storage keeper NPC doesn't even match the character art
It's like something you'd find in one of those shitty dating sites.
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>>143692446
>>143692452
Oh really? Sounds pretty dope ima fund a sair/fencer.
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>>143692562
I will spoonfeed you just this once anon.
http://wiki.tosbase.com/wiki/Stats#Critical_Rate
and inb4 the 128 question gets asked
>>143690043
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>>143692496

The buffs are bad, and the pyro linker duscussion never brings pyro 3 into it.

but pyrothauma is another thing, maybe they pick pyro 3.
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>>143692612
Fencer with a hammer? Are you retarded?
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>>143692496
Pyro has had some buffs but all of them are minor shit. Hell breath will always be a 1 point wonder if you even bother with Pyro 3. There isn't much difference between our and their Pyros besides tiny shit that is ultimately meaningless.
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>>143691259
Cyro3 only matters if you're going ET.
ITS LITERALLY HELL TO GET TO RANK 7 DON'T DO IT DON'T DO IT DON'T DO IT UNLESS YOU'RE FUCKING MASO.
Pyro is for leveling faster and soloing, cyro3chrono3 is the standard meta ET build due to meme tree and wall
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>>143692316
The explosion is 5x your physical damage and procs every 3 hits for Chaplains assuming the mob resists an instance of the debuff or so. Even with no str investment it does 1600-2000 damage depending on how much you upgrade it due to base physical damage from levels.

You have to have a ridiculously good magic attack weapon to outdamage that, superior corona rod for example has about 200 more magic attack than the Toy hammer's 72 so you'd do 200 more damage on your aspergillum portion of damage; 600 gained damage over 3 hits compared to the 1600 explosion.
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Which is better to upgrade into, Roxona Leather or Ibre?
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>>143692207
With 2sec downtime if you have chrono 3.
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I'm playing this game with my sister, she's new to MMOs. What's an easy babby class that she can play and feel like she's accomplishing something? We'll always be partied together.
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>>143693175
archer2qs3
hold down z
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>>143693101
>having linker 3 and chrono 3
??
??????????
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>>143692514
You mean for pulling mobs together right? But isn't the additional damage from linking useful?

Or am I mistaken to think aoe skills hit every enemy 5 times when they're linked?
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>>143693175
Cleric2>Priest3>Oracle. Full CON.
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>>143693175
Cleric 2, Priest 2, whatever at that point.
Personal healslut imouto.
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>>143693316
Too late anon, if you wanted aoe skills to hit every enemy 5 times you should've been here back in beta.
They've "fixed" it now.
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>>143693316
you're mistaken about the multiplying aoe damage

but linker still increases the damage by hell of a lot more with archers + hangmans knot reduces aoe defense
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JUST HOW MANY FUCKING DAYS DO I HAVE TO WAIT TO GET MY FUCKING SILVER JESUS FUCK IMC
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>>143693004
First of all, it's not going to be doing 2k damage unless you're over 250+ and by then, you shouldn't be trying to solo mobs as a support class with base STR. Second of all, you don't use Corona Rod because the MATK bonus is shit for Aspersion and you lose base damage from using a mace type weapon. Catacombs Club is obviously the better choice. Third, the proc is every 2 attacks as a Chaplain; 1 Sacrament, 1 Last Rites, 1 Cafrisun, 1 Aspergellum and your base attack line.
It's not worth 2 million silver. The only reason you'll get it is for novelty.
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>>143693352
This is the ultimate "Girlfriend" build.
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>>143693645
>being f2p pleb
you get what you deserve for having both no irl shekels and ingame shekels
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>>143693175
If you promise to always ALWAYS hold her hand, then chronomancer. It's the best support wizard endgame, she won't deal damage but she will always feel useful. She won't have to spend much money on equipment or attributes.

Small warning, lots of people might want to hold hands with her. You must be ready to protect your imouto's hand-holding virtue.
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>>143693565
so linking only helps for single target skills? what the fuck am I doing abort ABORT

Guess I'm going pyro3chrono3
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>>143692758
> [+ (level/5) for archers]
Wheres the one for Swordsman?
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>>143693175
Cleric1, Priest3, Cleric, Druid 2.
Great healing, great defensive buffs, easy to play effectively. You better have some DPS because she sure as hell won't
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>>143693352
>>143693354
I wouldn't trust a stupid girl to save my life in a dungeon and keep buffs up to be quite honest.

Have her be any DPS Wizard class so she can mindlessly mash buttons and watch explosions happen.
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>>143692758
That is outdated.
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>>143692223
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>>143693828
You literally just ignore the archer bit if you're a swordsman anon, I can't tell if this is a subtle troll by pretending to be retarded or otherwise.
Didn't you see the calcs didn't have the archer bits?
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Are hat slot 3s best for selling hat enchants? Hat 1s and 2s seem to mostly be for appearances while hat 3s aren't the most impressive when it comes to being visually appealing. I think I'll farm some white flowers just for the sake of using enchants on them.
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>>143693812

Linking helps aoe too, that 3 target skills will hit the other 5 mobs linked into it.

Also, when you use hangman's knot, you reduce monster's aoe def ratio, similar to circling.
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>>143694071
I would say the opposite is true. Since hat 1 and hat 2 are the ones most people want to wear, those are the most appealing to sell.
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What pillar???????
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>>143693175
Pelt, if the bad guys hurt you hold down C
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So i want to make a Wizard...
Is Wiz3Ele3 viable in the long run?
Link is a must if you want to go ET?
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Back to the STR vs DEX thing, I think adding 100 dex and rest dex might be a good idea
It'd be (128[from DEX] + 128[From green gems] - 100[Monster crit defense])*(0.15[Result of 42/280]) = 23,4% crit rate
So it'd be almost 1/4 crit rate while getting 417 points in STR, making 417 extra crit damage plus 542 extra non-crit damage which translates to 1230 extra damage with crits.
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>>143693713
It's every 3 hits because it's pretty common for mobs to resist the debuff. With Cat club you're doing 210-247 phys + 303 magic damage per hit, Toy Hammer is 86-101 phys + 72 magic + 1600/3 phys per hit, and that explosion is also another instance of damage benefiting from blessing etc.

Toy hammer also costs less than half as much as Cat club, so for the same price you could buy two and risk over enhancing them as well.

Whether or not you're soloing isn't relevant, the Toy Hammer does technically do more damage until you've invested a ton of silver into aspersion and club enhancements and is a good stepping stone weapon while you save silver.
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>>143694325
Wiz 3 will always be viable because of 50% damage.

By the time Ele 3 isn't viable you'll have more ranks with better classes.
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>>143694261
Look at it.
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>>143694261
Just look at it.

The pillar only appears at a certain hour
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>>143692032

It's good for pvp.

But the nerfs it got makes it fall way behind the alternatives for pvp.

Especially with the dps race that is ET, and how endgame farming in general plays out.
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>>143694325

You need a lot of funding to fit the aoe dos role of ele3

Support builds require literally 0 funding to be effective, so cryo1 linker2 chrono3 is super economic
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>>143694116
Alright, that's not so bad, but do you think pyro1link2 is good enough or should I reroll to cryo3?

Does the extra damage from pyro help at all or ist negligible?
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Why can't I find any talt in my inventory
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>>143693175
Make your imouto into your personal heal slave. She'll massage your wounds after battle when you're all alone..
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>>143694463
You still want linkers for ET, don't you?
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>>143694261
You have to camp there. It has completely random spawn rate
t. someone who camped there for an hour in between anime and tv shows to do the quest
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>>143694435
>>143694440
>>143694440
>The pillar only appears at a certain hour

What..... How long do I need to wait for this stupid pillar to show up?
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>>143694516
I meant pyro2link1, fuck
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>>143694632
I sincerely don't know, maybe the 4 people around you know better
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Knockback is the most annoying mechanic I've ever experienced in an MMO.
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>>143694628
WHAT THE HELL

I HATE PILLARS!!!
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>>143694383
Meant 100 dex and rest STR
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>>143694632
It appears every 2 hours on a timer from the last time it spawned.

The time it spawned however is pretty much unknowable. Also it only appears for 5 minutes.
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>>143694628
>random
You sure? I never did the quest, but I was fairly sure it respawned at a fixed interval
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Meme Tree + Circling is hilarious in dungeons. A shame the queues all take 20 minutes. Time to start a new character.
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>>143694817
Pain Barrier is the shit.

though some knockback attacks hit multiple times, and can be REALLY fatal if you try and pain barrier that shit
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>>143694394
>Whether or not you're soloing isn't relevant
We're talking about Chaplains aren't we? So you're a support class, how is partying irrelevant to this discussion? Also Cata Club is the best weapon a support Cleric can have. Stop trying to bait people into thinking Toy Hammer is a good investment for anyone who fell for the Chaplain meme. Good luck reaching 280 as a solo player with your Toy Hammer. Fyi Maven Abbey have mobs with 140k hp, have fun auto attacking those.
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>>143694817
>not sleep
>not freeze
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>>143694817
>those mobs in one of the orsha maps who chuck shit at you that knocks you back every time
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>>143694817
>he hasn't experienced the horror of ice pike yet
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>>143695037
How does Cata club magically do more damage or have any relevance to your ability to play support in a group as opposed to playing solo vs. the Toy Hammer? You support just the same with both weapons except one is way cheaper and does comparable damage.
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>>143689025

Korea only :^)
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>>143694982
Hovering
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>>143694953
Is this quest even worth waiting for?

Is it worth it to do all these quests I somehow missed? They're ~15 levels below me now.
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>>143695040
>>143695195
You can dispeller knockback?
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>>143694982
>>143695040
>tfw healslut
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>>143695195
how about the kubbe ice mages of Crystal Mines F2 lot?

not only do they have ice pike, their auto attack has a chance to freeze too

if you have two or more of those ice mages attacking you, they can lock you to death, shits mad op
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>>143693828
Swordsman gets + (level/4) physical defense.
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>>143695195
who even cares about that when dispellers exist. pic related is much worse
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>>143695263
>How does having more HP affect your ability to play as a support
>Talking about DPSing as a Chaplain
Okay, thanks for clarifying that you are in fact retarded.
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>>143695306
>Is this quest even worth waiting for?
No, not really. IIRC you only get 4 cards for your efforts. It's only worth it if it happens to be there when you're on that map.

>>143695306
>Is it worth it to do all these quests I somehow missed?
If it's level 3 or under cards then no. If 4/5 then yes.
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>>143694628
How long does it stick around, though?
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>>143695564
Thank you!
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>>143695570
see >>143694953
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>>143695306
Yes. You can get Zachariel Bangle from those side quests.
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>>143695306
Better quest is a bannable add on
Stop posting screenshots with it
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>>143695357
Seriously, fuck IMC.
"Oh riiiiiiight. THAT class line exists.
...

...

OH WELL."
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>>143695729
>Better quest is a bannable add on
According to who?
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>>143695516
Do you get hit a lot in grind parties or something? When are you legitimately in danger as the support when you have safety zone, stone skin, etc to warrant spending 3 mill on fucking 1.5k hp.
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>>143694967

So, Frost pillar actually has a aoe "atk" ratio?
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>>143695564
You also gain the ability to read a message on that one thing on that map, but yeah.
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>>143695516
The only reason to take Chaplain is to give some DPS.
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>>143694817
>poata pins you against a wall
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Someone tell me that bad implications of not returning these quests. Right now, I'm at Nefritas cliff and the paladin master wont talk to me because my main quest story line is still stuck at this one.

I wanna know just how far reaching the effects of not returning these quests are and if there's an alternative "free warp back to town" quests
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>>143695357
Seriously. Especially those bosses that can knockback while you're already knocked down, and they do it repeatedly and juggle your dumb ass. Fuck IMC.
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>>143696035
>Tree throws its acorn grenades at you while Poata is juggling you against a wall
>You're 13 levels below them
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>>143696061

relax, anon. there are better free warp quests. klaipeda: the one which you need to kill random 100 monsters in a random map to gain a cap increase potion.

fedmian has the soldier's letter on.

orsha, i don't know.
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>>143695876
I don't know and I'm not him, but Frost Pillar pulls mobs, while Circling makes archers, memelemementalist and swordies actually hit all of them at the same time, it's a good combo
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>>143695856
>spending silver on endgame gear
>vs spending silver on a meme weapon
>thinking he will ever have the time to auto attack
>thinking his meme hammer explosion damage will matter even if you went full STR
You're obviously sub 280 and have yet to experience Saalus, Storage, Abbey and ET.
This is the last (you) you're going to get from me.
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>>143696061
>not planning your way the way you visit cities when you are near the statue anyway
>being too poor to buy scrolls which are like 500silver each
How bad can you get?
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>>143674060
>the neighborhood internet cable gets stolen
What the fuck.
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>Full STR Targe Smash
Base attack 292 + STR attack 821 + Lolopanther Sword 300-367 attack + Targe smash 1350 = 2763-2830
>If crit (Gets around 14% chances with green gems)
(2763-2830)*1.5 + 632 = 4776-4877

Full DEX Targe Smash: Considering it's a critical 100% of the time

(Base attack 292 + Lolopanther sword 300-367 attack + Targe smash 1350 ) * 1.5 = 2913-3013

DEX wins over STR by 150-183 damage.
Assuming you don't get hop3 for 150 extra crit rate and a level of BRbarian for 50 extra crit rate which would equal to around 34% crit rate being full STR, DEX might be superior only because of the evasion.
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>>143696197
Is there any way to block knockback if you're a pitiful fucking cleric?
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>>143696432
City Warp Scrolls are actually not worth it, since you don't get previous warps.
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>>143696468
you either dodge, or simply block. Alternatively try jumping, jumping is deceptively effective on some attacks
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>>143696468
NOPE. ENJOY THE RIDE.
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>>143696468
Yep, don't get hit
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>>143696468
No.

Unless you're a Priest 3 with high SPR/Stone Skin.
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>>143696447
>Criticals do more damage than non critical attacks

you typed that all out to tell us that huh
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>>143696061
>>143696258
Orsha has this
https://tos.neet.tv/quests/30072

Klai has Cleric and Priest master quest from Forest of Prayer and Uska's quest.

Fedi has "Failure and Success" hidden quest and "Talk to the Girl".
Don't talk to the girl.
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>>143696468
Why would you be close enough to get hit in the first place? Why don't you stay back, drop heals and buff like a bitch while coming closer only for a second to use Zaibas?
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>>143696468
Only way is to avoid it and be mobile constantly.

Being a melee class really fucks over Clerics.
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How do I genocide my teamname so I can use it on a different server
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Reminder

Having good skill rotations can make or break you getting a cube!
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>>143696447
Evasion is the main reason you get dex fampai.
With full dex + leather mastery you can even dodge the meme archers
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>>143696617
Said every bowfag with a shit build seconds before they die a dozen times in a single mission run.
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>>143696658
150-183 more damage if you crit 100% of the times, if a full STR with green gems lands a single critical with a 15% chance it deals 1863-1864 more damage.
But thing is, you never get 100% crit and reach at most 80%
If it wasn't because evasion, STR > DEX
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>>143696790
>Zaibas
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>>143696741
>Don't talk to the girl.

You monster.
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>>143696821
that's the worst ohayou Ive ever seen
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>>143696909
>remove AGI
>remove LUK
>combine both with DEX
i still dont understand the logic in this.
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>>143696358
You're arguing that the damage Toy Hammer does doesn't matter because you're a support while at the same time arguing that you need to optimize your weapon choice late game as a support, which is it? The only grinding spot I haven't reached yet is Abbey, on the other grinding maps the only way to get a pull big enough to be threatening is to have a tank, which means you won't be getting hit very often and when you do you have revive to bail you out.

Just spend the 3 mill you'd save by getting a toy hammer on attributes, there are so many silver sinks in this game I'd rather save the money than buy a super weapon for a marginal hp increase.
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>>143696873
>you can even dodge the meme archers
How do wiz and cleric deal with that if they can't dodge them?
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>>143695830
Some guy on the internet, so it must be true
No one would go on the internet and tell lies
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>>143696647
Stone Skin can't prevent knockdown, oddly enough you can block while being knocked away
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>>143696250
>woodspirit does the bullshit knockback everyone move
>clap tornado while you're on the ground
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>>143696909
>>143696447
>821 str vs 0
And everyone should know by this point that shitty skill with shitty basedmg benefits more from str.
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>>143697208
You dodge them :^)
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>>143696258
>>143696741
Thanks boatloads, anon.
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>>143697270
>821
It's not 821 STR, STR gives 1.3 damage now, 821 STR would mean 1067 damage.
Doesn't multi-hit benefit more from damage? Each hit would receive an extra 821 damage.
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>>143697269
>you survive while on the 2fpshoglan.jpg effect
>he claps again
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>>143697348
Brb posting this on the forums to get you banned.

Cya
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>>143697208
Wear plate armor you mong
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>>143697471
Multihits and low basedamage skills are what works best with str whilst high base damage skills work best with dex.
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>>143697208
>How do cleric deal with
Stone Skin, Fade, investing CON, Clerics have no excuse
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>>143697573
My dads working for IMC i'm not afraid of bans
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>>143697665
That's why I used a high base damage single hit to make the calculation, so that dex would benefit more.
But even then, dex didn't even do 10% better than str.
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>>143697926
You forget the most bullshit skill ever.
Safety Zone.
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>>143697926
Don't forget the most important part
>Clerics do no damage
Oh, wait.
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>>143698080
-(you)
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>>143698075
doesn't prevent some sources of knockback
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WHAT IS THE BEST MOB STOMPER CLASS
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>>143697996
Yeah guess I'll cede that point, full dex barely does more damage than full str (actually would probably be less like other anons like>>143686279
has said.
But evasion is really just too good, until they nerf evasion or give more incentive to go str (like in korea where they get 30% bonus damage), I'm just not seeing the reason to go glass cannon full str.
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>>143698075
>Bullshit skill
>Can't protect you from knockdowns
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>>143696292

Indeed, but my question was more towards the mechanics of the skill.

Playing as a Cryo 3, you will note that some mobs are easily pulled and almost completely helpless against the Ice Dick but others, usually bigger, sometimes scapes like there's nothing holding they.

Best example: big pull in the demon prison, 30 spiders are attached but two harugals runs and almost ignore the tree.
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>>143698194
Still block the damage which is what matters most.
Don't mind Woodspirit, Poata and Necroventer knock back/down as long as I have my Safety Zone.
I love my Safety Zone.
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>>143698075
>Paota/Woodspirit constantly knock you the fuck out of your own safety zone
>The tile is still there for you to return to
>Woodspirit throws grenade at you while you're laid out
>Follows up with a clap aimed right at you

Lotta help that zone was
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>>143698234
barbarian, hands down
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>>143698250
im hoping they just cut the amount of evasion going dex gives, so that you need outside sources be it buffs or gears to effectively dodge stuff. Tossing agi was a dumb move on their part honestly.
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>>143698424
>Still block the damage which is what matters most.
I'd rather take damage than get knockback
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>>143698451
NO EXCUSE
O

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X
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S
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quick

what is the memest class in the game? psychokino?
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>>143698628
>I'd rather take damage than get knockback
Fucking this.
>>
>Play with a Futureproof member
>Sword 1, Pelt 1, Barb 2, Squire 1
>Spams umba blow knocking monsters around
>In general just plain useless

Futureproof everybody
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>>143698424
>Still block the damage which is what matters most.

>The worst part of the attack doesn't matter as much as the damage

What is this bullshit.
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>>143698075
>Safety Zone
>not Mackangdal
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>>143698841
>Not Mackangdal + Revenged Sevenfold + Safety Zone
Step your game up senpai
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>>143698628
This.

What does damage matter to a cleric? In all my time playing a priest I've died like twice ever. Getting flung across the room completely stops you in your tracks.
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>>143698841
>Use Mackangdal
>Too busy getting thrown around to use safety zone when the time starts to run out

Never go Bokor. Never ever.
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>>143698628
>>143698793
Do you guys even get knockback regularly?
Consider gitting gud.

>>143698834
>get knocked back once or twice per mission run, sometimes not at all
>Wow knock back is the worst ever!!!
refer to above suggestion.
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Migrate

>>143699096
>>143699096
>>143699096
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>>143699095
You mean never go anything other than swordsman.
At least there's ONE thing we're good at!
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>>143699108
>Do you guys even get knockback regularly?
Well I do 100 dungeon everyday and one of the bosses is a knockback machine so yes.

It's not like I'm dying because of knockback but when it happens constantly its annoying as fuck.
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>>143699108
pretty sure this is mostly a case of venting at the 100 mission which consists of knockbacks, whether it be due to lagging into it or party members dragging you into it, its fucking annoying.
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>>143699108
>Consider gitting gud.

>Getting good at standing in a zone that doesn't protect you because bosses punt you straight the fuck out of it

I'd like to see the training montage that allows this.
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>>143648267
All slots have been taken, for those who PM'd me but didn't make it, I'm sorry!
I'll post again in the thread when we get space, thanks for the interest.
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