Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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>/tosg/ discord
https://discord.gg/0heefDqe35vj9Raj

How come tanks are so uncommon? I mean they're relatively popular but when I'm actually looking for one for a dungeon, they're nowhere to be seen. Meanwhile Clerics up the ass.

>>143699096
>making new thread this early
:^)

I LOVE TALT!

>Full STR Targe Smash
Base attack 292 + STR attack 821 + Lolopanther Sword 300-367 attack + Targe smash 1350 = 2763-2830
>If crit (Gets around 14% chances with green gems)
(2763-2830)*1.5 + 632 = 4776-4877

Full DEX Targe Smash: Considering it's a critical 100% of the time

(Base attack 292 + Lolopanther sword 300-367 attack + Targe smash 1350 ) * 1.5 = 2913-3013

DEX wins over STR by 150-183 damage, even when the skill used to calculate the damage is a high damage single hit skill which benefits the most from it.

Just get crit gems/accuracy gems/evasion gems to make up for your lack of dex.

>>143699329
level up a cleric anon, youll get partied with so many all swordsman parties that youll never want to see a tank again.

WEEKEND LAG IS BACK BOYS

>>143699329
Honestly if you have a priest and any random cleric class, you don't need a tank.

>Play with a Futureproof member
>Sword 1, Pelt 1, Barb 2, Squire 1
>Spams umba blow knocking monsters around
>In general just plain useless

Futureproof in charge of being good at tos.

>>143699329
Clerics make better kiritos.

>>143699464

can criticals proc 100% of the time?
isn't there a cap at, like, 95% or something, like how it was in RO?

>>143699586
NEVER DRINK ANYTHING EVER.

>>143699471
This. I go with randoms everyday on my Chaplain, Sword 3s and Barbs fucking everywhere.

>>143699636
The most you can get is around 63% for bosses and around 80% for monsters.

So im having trouble deciding what enchants i should look for in hats as an archer, any recommendations?

>>143699743
+hp
+phys damage
+critical rate

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What classes make you instantly think "this run is going to be shit" when you use the party search?

>Paladin 3

>>143699725
>ele damage
>crit rate
>phy attack
>hp

in that order depending on amount on said enchant and how much HP you're sitting on already, occasionally you can find some with AoE ratio+1 but those are rare

Jinsae here.
PM me ingame and I might recruit you. No monks.

>>143699906
Monks.

>"I'm never going to heal because muh punches!"

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Where the heck is it!!

AWAKEN, MY MASTERS!!!

>>143699464
>>143699725
DEX fags BTFO'd by Green gems
Being serious, why do green gems give such big benefits stat wise?

>>143700219
because gooks cant balance for shit.

>>143699906
Templar
Because I am one
Anymore than one templar in a party means shit dps, hell even one is barely acceptable

For leveling and soloing what is better: PyroLinker or PyroThaum? Is it worthy going sorc?

>>143699906
>more than 1 archer
Gonna spend 10 minutes waiting for them to run back after dying.

>>143700379
Yes

>Mercenary quest asks that you kill like 80 of a monster
>Another quest asks for their drop item
>You got less than 10 doing that previous one
>It's a commonly used crafting material

>>143700090
Is this that quest that you give the guy numbers you found on pieces of paper on the ground?

>>143699906
Pelt 3 Squires
Sure they can hold bosses in place. But so can I. While doing damage to help.

>>143699906
>all int no CON cyro
amazing CC, truly.

>>143699906
>more than 1 wugu
may as well have one of them leave at that point.

>>143700219
But dex fags haven't btfo, they still have their dodgememe.

REEEEEEEEEE

I wasn't paying attention and used about 250 level 6-8 cards right after I hit class rank 15.

Holy fucking shit, this is not something I can recover from. God fucking damn it.

>>143700543
It's the quest where I have to wait 9 hours to talk to an NPC

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHKuJ0PUXbA

This looks fun

>>143699906
>Bokor
Can't see shit senpai.

>>143699906
Barbs, always seem to be the whiniest shits

>>143699906
Not class, but FP or Discord.

I just leave if I get any of those.

>>143700731
My fucking ears you faggot

>doing the 1500 gimmick points achievement
WHY THE FUCK DO MOST ACHIEVEMENTS ONLY GIVE A SINGLE FUCKING POINT REEEEEEEEEEE

>>143700695
How do you even make that kind of mistake

>>143699906
>more than 1 priest
One of them is going to have a shit build or no attributes and is going to make shit harder and buffing over the good buffs.

>>143700731
>raid party
>cast max level physical link
>get gkicked
Worth it.

>>143700685
>But dex fags haven't btfo, they still have their dodgememe.

Can't you get around 20 evade per green gem on boots? What's the gem limit on them? 1? 2? 3?
That would be 60 DEX

>>143699906
>someone from a /tosg/ guild
>guaranteed shit run and second hand embarrassment

>>143700695
t. typical tosg anon who than whines about the grind

>>143699464

What about yellow gems?

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>trying to carve Diev statues with server lag

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>>143700731
Can't wait to have some gvg fun with tosg!

>>143701070
t. dumbfuck permavirgin living in his mother's basement.

>>143701087
>losing 12-13% crit chance
The bonus from green gems is too insane to lose whether you're full dex or full str.

>>143699906
Every monk ive ever met was an arrogant faggot.

>>143699906

Squire and alch

>>143701040
24 at level 6, 32 at level 7 i think. Most armors have atleast 2 slots?

>>143699906
>Be cleric
>Get in party with Sorcerer
>He constantly rides your ass
>Can't put out heals without his fucking templeshooter chewing up half the tiles like candy

Get. The fuck. AWAY FROM ME.

>Get partied with 3 sorcerers

>>143701248
Yes, you are a dumbfuck permavirgin; one who wasted his EXP cards

Just ran the 130 dungeon with a Pelt3, a Diev2 and me (another Diev2 (Monk)) and it was the best run ever. We had owls up every huge pull because of Pelt3 Swashbuckling and everything just melted. Best dungeon run ever

>>143701318
So you can get at least the evasion worth of 64 points in dex with boots, same for accuracy

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>>143701363
>mfw bokor's zombies practically dry humping my leg and using up my heal tiles

>>143700731
>lag
>massive class imbalance
yeah looks really fun

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IT'S

HEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>143701460
Any run where the swash tank actually knows how owls/statues in general work is a comfy run. Sadly this harrdly ever happens

>>143699906
I've never met a cata who understands how to function in a team.

Hey, you see that big circle that a magicfag laid out and screams "everything that enters this dies," and stuff? You think maybe... we should keep the fight contained to that area? JUST A THOUGHT.

>>143701615
What time did it appear?

>>143701481
you mean 48
level 7 gems aren't feasible for most even if you farm gem abrasives from the gimmick quests

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>>143699559
Ohayou anon! This was me, Kusarihime, it was in missions during the torch phase. I was keeping mobs off the torch.

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>>143699906

party of 4 clerics or one of these

>Silute server moved to north america

Fuck, the only reason I played there was because of the "low" ping

>>143701721
7:27 pm in game time.

>>143701493
I've never met a zombie bokor who hasn't learned to keep the shit seperated like a kid who doesn't want food touching on his dinner plate. Probably because it's an issue they have to deal with themselves.
I've seen tons of OTHER clerics in parties with Bokors who just drop heals right on fucking top of zombies. They could literally be going in a circle with the train and bam, some druid thought that was as good a place as any.

>>143701886
Fuck off shitter. Kill yourself for playing a swordsman.

Are autoattack archers good in pvp?

>>143699906
monk sapper sorcerer cryo (nobody knows how to tree/wall/ball) corsair rodel oracle thauma bokor squire/alch/pard chapmeme

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>>143702187
Yea they are good at dieing

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>be in /tosg/ guild
>meet player from other /tosg/ Discord / whatever guild in a mission
>Feel their piercing stare on me
>The pressure is on to not be dumb and fuck up somehow
>Or else when I check /tosg/ later I will see a long greentext post bitching about me

>>143702287
>Sorcerer
Literally no reason to hate a Sorcerer in a run.
>But it isn't a Necro, which I conveniently left off the list because I can praise Flesh Cannon!

>>143702187
AA archer implies qs3, so you would have stone shot and heavy shot which are ok.

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>>143702170
I-I was j-just trying to help! and have fun

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Reposting-
>>143701081
All slots have been taken, for those who PM'd me but didn't make it, I'm sorry!
I'll post again in the thread when we get space, thanks for the interest.

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>have to farm 2 items
>DPE
>get two items

Feels good being a Doppel.

>>143700731
>massive lag
>class balance laughable
>poor attempt at woe

>Corsair in mission
>He doesn't put out the flag during torch (aka literally free money) phase

wut is tier list for best pvp

>>143702926
You're talking like RO didn't have balance issues.
>RO Classic: Immortal knights
>RO Trans: Biochems
>RO Renewal: Super Saiyan WoE

Where can me a shitty templar go to farm money
I spent it all on making a guild
Now I need arde dagger to make a decent not shit class

>>143702962
>literally everyone in mission
>doesn't do shit but sit during torch phase
>nag at the Corsair who didn't put out the flag

>>143703437
Go kill things.
Or run dungeons hoping to get the drop of a lifetime.

>>143703437
tenet 2f if you dont mind farming corpse hands/mithril
Bees if you have a party

I want to hold hands with a chronomancer!

>>143703420
Yes I agree, we should strive to always be worse than our predecessors.

For a fencer build could it be worth going c1 hoplite for the bleed attribute?

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>>143702582
>tfw not in the picture
I should have gotten used to it by now

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>>143703584

Tfw I made 223k in the market within 5mins due to how retarded sea monkeys are

>>143703763
We can update it, just send a pose of your character to Tenryo in discord.

>>143703740
maybe if you wnat to meme with stabbing

>>143703552
>Bees if you have a party

>He can't solo entire bee waves with time to spare between spawns

>>143703858
What happened?

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Who /readingdoujinswhilewaitinginqueue/ here?

>can't search for specific armor types
0/10 wouldn't fuck

>>143704257
>not "futanari"
apply yourself

>>143704183
>people place recipe/armour prices lower than their npc sell value
>theres 3 whole pages worth of people selling recipes lower and 2 pages of people selling armour lower than the npc resell value
Based sea monkeys

How much HP do I get from plate mastery 50?

>>143704047
He's a templar.

Do the /tosg/ guilds use only in-game chat for communication?

>>143704257
Too busy leveling my priest alt before I go back to leveling my main

that fiel when you wake up and your alchemist have been cryomancer away 500 feet into a npc

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/aa6wmlbai4/


On a scale of 0 ~ 10, how sad I will be when I get to high level with this build and see that I'm useless in parties and solo? B-But... it looks so fun....

>>143704541
Well, there's always Discord

>inb4 OH NO HE MENTIONED THE THING

>>143704638
You won't get into many parties but as long as you're having fun you can just do the twice per day missions and dungeons once you get high level.

>>143704638
If you think it's fun it doesn't really matter, but that's probably the two worst cleric classes you have there.

If you want an easier time getting into parties just throw Cleric2 in somewhere and you can get in anywhere.

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>>143704257
i'm done my daily runs and i'm doing something more interesting.

WHAT ARE SOME GOOD MAGIC CIRCLES TO STEAL AS ROGUE

GOING OLD SCHOOL RAGNAROK ONLINE STALKER BUILD

>that thing you're farming that you need 20 of won't drop

What stat should I invest in my diev/plague doctor? 2:1 con/int?

>>143705335
>GOING OLD SCHOOL RAGNAROK ONLINE STALKER BUILD
lol no you're not

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#314189eg.1a27314a5161.15213445.153545.152535.112135455162.15243541

qs3 sucks dicc. What else can I get at r5? rogue doesn't seem that much of an improvement, are scout2 or ranger2 worth it?

>>143704638

>transmit prana into a full int someshit
>umbilical chord
>joint penalty attribute
>cryomancer's freeze + thunderbolt attribute
>tfw 6 gorilons damage zaibas

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>that thing you're farming finally drops

>>143704638
Trade out krivis for cleric2 and you'll be fine for parties.
Also I think more zombie focus on bokor would benefit sadhu more, but that's just me.

>>143705335
Memecloud, broom trap stacking, pretty much any AoE.

Only special thing to note is that you can't stack Gu Pot captures. Just use them one after the other.

>>143704318
Oh, that. I made a shit ton of money doing that at the beginning and a few weeks ago, but haven't seen much of it lately.

>>143705235
>>143705560
>>143705128

Thanks, also yea, I think I'll switch Krivis for Cleric 2, it'll be better early on for parties, and I can help with some cheap buffs later.

>>143705486
>scout2
As a scout3, no. dont do this unless going scout3.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2127aa99.23354552.153575.11243545.1a2636425165.11223a4a618195

Should I drop Thaum2 for Pyro2? Reversi seems better in the long run but I'm not sure if I'll want to kill myself by r6.

>>143704257
Good fuken taste

read his yandere maid one the other day

its so good

>>143706297

Reversi the kind of skill that when you land a very good one, you will choke and stroke after the intense orgasm it provokes.

Assuming mini game/gvg, yes.

for grinding, +200~ atk/matk for your party is really something, but fireball 5 falls of easily for when you are alone...

Can't wait until this game dies. I'll kek at all of you whilst playing Lineage 3. ;^)

>>143704339
1700 hp
34 hp/attribute level

>>143705554
>that thing you're farming finally drops
>on to the next thing you need to farm
it never ends.

>>143706563
Oh, thanks.
So fuck plate for swordie, better get leather.

How do I find someone I can trust to sell me a Templeshooter card? Are there any measures I can take to prevent getting scammed?

>>143705335
>>143705697
How does Capture even work? You capture circles then you use the skill again and it puts them down, then you have to capture again?

Seems like it's potentially the most OP skill in the game with the right party / build.

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>130 dungeon run
>2 other monks and me (also a monk)
>1 is named SaiyanGod
>he keeps talking shit
>like how he has 90 stamina and we dont
>asks us why we dont have the +3 all stats bracelet
>says its sad to see this at lvl 130
>ask us our builds
>we tell him
>>lol hows that working out for you haha
>dies all the time because he went full dex and nearly no con

NO MONKS

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>>143700758
You mean zombie bokor because hex bokor is love, effigy bokor is life.

>>143699906
As mainly a cleric player, those reverse harems of 4 swordies is just insufferable. They expect you to run up to them and drop the tiles on their lazy fucking shitter asses too. I laugh every time they die because they were too retarded to take 3 steps away from the monsters/ to let go of C to take 3 steps away from the monsters to get their stupid shit healed up. Also, C vs magic mobs. JUST FUCKING STOP PLAYING

>>143705554
>the Bokor mace
Fucking fuck it drops from a fucking flying mob on a map the fucking zombies can't follow you around on for no fucking reason and there are only like 15 of the mob per channel and it took fucking 500 kills for it to drop.

Such fucking bullshit. Why the fuck would you have a Cleric item drop from a flying mob?

>>143706880
There's another saiyangod type variation on klaip that thought monks used INT for damage.

Which name should I give to my Catacombs Rapier?

Thermidor or Ventôse?

>>143706804
I'll give you one if you're in klai

>>143706852
It's a been limited by its 3 minute cooldown but it can be really OP in the right circumstance.

Also note that it's supposed to capture up to 5 skills, but it's currently bugged and captures an unlimited amount at any skill level.

Big news everyone !!!!!!!

I've determined that only Buns and the cash shop Short Firm haircuts are usable with the female Thaumaturge costume.

Everything else either clips really badly with the neck or shoulders.


That's right folks: You have one choice for free and one choice you have to pay 15 dollars for if you don't want to look like shit.

>>143706930
>You mean zombie bokor because hex bokor is love, effigy bokor is life.
There's literally no difference except Zombie bokor puts a few more points in Zombie skills and Effigy Bokor puts a few more points in Hex. You always max Effigy either way.

It's literally the difference between like 3 points in Hex and 6-7 points in Hex, unless you're going the no zombies PvP memebuild in which case you're maxing Mackdangal as well and honestly why are you even playing the class at this point.

>>143707265
I am. How much do you want for it?

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>>143707326
Because its more fun to stab the doll psychotically than to run a train of zombies overtop of monsters

>>143707326

>why would I play the highest single target dps in the game

a mystery

>>143707391
I'll give it to you if you win the card battle, give me 5mins

>>143707275
I think I heard that it captures all friendly tiles and up to 5 enemy tiles is what it does.

>>143707325
Buns as in the two side buns?

Neat, i made the right choice for my wizard

Is rank 8 confirmed to exist at some point? I just need 1 more circle for my perfect pvp build be complete.

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so what world bosses are hunted the most now

where are the mafia at

>>143707797
Probably still camping Archon, necroventer, mineloader and cerebus

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>>143707797
>first encounter with Crab-san F.O.E. in icbt2
>party of underleveled randoms getting shitfucked
>took us over 1 hour to finish it

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>>143708202
Shit was so fun

I want to bully a bokor's feet

How does this build look? http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/f9rcuv4t4w/

>>143707438
What's your build senpai? I'm planning on making a bokor soon.

Dead game dead thread.

>>143707391
What's your ign?

>>143708781

Why Hoplite 1? While using finestra + barb skills seems really good with spears, you'll lose finestra when you use a rapier.

Sicne you don't have hop 2 to justify spear lunge + fencer's piercing atks, well..

don't do this, anon.

>>143708781
Hoplite sticks out like a sore thumb, finestra can't be used with rapiers and Hoplite needs c2 for 100% finestra uptime.

Looks fine other than that.

>>143708781
>hoplite with fencer
so you're retarded right?
either that or you have 0.05 ping or less

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>>143708470
>>143708202
Apparently i had the recording running for like 2 and a half mins before people started showing up.

>>143709017
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411444ae.1a3a4555.1f2f557a.11243585.1325355161

>>143709095
Lefebvre

>Zombie bokor shows up in mission run
>They fly fucking everywhere when golem smacks the ground
>Somehow, this is the one thing Bwa Whateverthefuckitscalled isn't cancelled by
>They hit all the interfering mobs like a shrapnel bomb

>>143709097
I wanted to try and play around the bleed attribute that hoplite 1 has. So your saying that going hoplite 2 instead of barbarian would be better?

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>>143709230
Get that recorded next time kouhai. id love to see it

>>143699096
http://tosmod.com/extended-ui

how do i get this shit to work I got cpAPI and excrulon working.

>>143707797
dulla and marionette of course

gotta get that SICK roxona gear my main man

>>143709149
I take it that the stat allocation is mostly SPR since you are spamming 24/7?

>>143709326
The only reason to take hop as a fencer is for spear lunge at C2, its a wash otherwise since finestra's only usable with spears.

>>143699906
When you get 3 pelts in a run and all of them refuse to tank/swashbuckle

>>143709326

Yeah. But man, if you want t play around hoplite's set, just embrace the cookie hop 3 doppel dragoon or hop 2 corsair 2 dragoon

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>>143709603
I got my spirit to 50 and then ive just been dumping into con

>>143709893
make a chronomancer already

>>143710005
Its on gate route. I hate gate route.

>>143709721
>>143709890
>>143709125
Thank you for letting me know my idea was shit. I guess I will go for dragoon.

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DPS Cleric build where?
Diev or Kriv for leveling?
Druid, Bokor or Plague Doctor?
2:1: INT SPR with some CON on top?

Help me please!

>>143709893
I LOVE YOU MIMI

>>143710246
I want to know wtf to add on stats too, aiming for diev/druid/doctor build.

>>143710204

There are other ways to be a fabulous fencer and apply bleed!

sword -> pelt - highlander 3 -> fencer 2.

You can delay pelt to r5 if you want to get highlander skills faster, but pelt is so good to have at dungeons...

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>>143710367

>>143710246
>DPS Cleric build
Turn back now at best you can consider yourself a hybrid but even then you should always take Cleric C2

>>143710246
Cleric 2 -> Diev 1 -> Sadhu 2 -> Druid 2

>>143699906
20K+ HP wizards
Monks
Templars
Non pelt squires
Sapper
Some corsair barbarian bullshit
More than 2 swords
More than 2 priests

>>143710435
Well hybrid then, I meant DPS for solo leveling at most. What should be the Cicle path considering Cleric C2?

>>143710583
>Sadhu 2
Isn't Sadhu a nerfed meme now?

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Does anyone want to do a comparison of damage between wugushi and fletcher? It'll be easy, we'll just decide on a boss, be around the same level (25x) and kill it without equipments. Of course, it'll be separate recordings, not us doing it together.

>>143710371
I did not know that. Thank you I probably will go with that.

Does anybody know the command to check someone's character info without them being nearby?

>>143710924

Yeah.

>>143710796
Sadhu 1/3 is horrible, Possession is the Running Shot of Cleric.

>>143710924
/memberinfo name

>>143710106
handholding eventually^tm.

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>yfw there's no new items on the store next maintenance

>>143710369
(Dump) Int : 50 spr : 60 (80) con

>>143710246
Krivis or dieve, not both.

Dps for caster? Or melee?

Caster you can either go cleric2->dieve3->druid2(1->PD1) for the classic all round support caster or you can go cleric-> krivis3->cleric2->druid2(1->PD1) for the more bursty caster type with more physical support or you can go straight up cleric2->bokor2(3)->druid2(1->PD1) for more focused caster damage and a different form of support.

Basically all of them are viable as long as you bring cleric 2.

Statwise, depending on your aim its usually INT>SPR and a comfortable amount of CON

>>143711272
>yfw the game is dead

>>143711098
Why does it auto-like someone when you do it ;-;

CURSE YOU JACEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>143711272

>>143711332
Because you're using hacked reddit addons and you will get banned soon./

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>>143711272
What, you don't like the corrected icons and typos? Entitled BITCH. IMC is working their ass off and here you are complaining.

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>>143711608

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>>143711110
I warn you every time that chronomancer's hand holding is dangerous! Dont tell me i didnt warn you when you eventually tear open space and time

>three beetlebacks in a row

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mfw trying to farm blue spion leather,

Does this game have an inbuilt desire sensor or something?

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>wake up
>no rank 8

>>143711771
Every game involved with RNG has that inbuilt. Its in the code.

>>143710246
C2-Bok3/Diev3-Druid2 is the highest DEEPS you're going to be seeing while maintaining usable support abilities.

>>143711329
Thanks m8 I just want to level up fast, while having some support role. I will consider Cleric 2, not sure what to pick. Those 3 builds looks so fun

>>143699906
Oracles.

>get to the second room of salai
>oracle change mob into a mage with 200k hp +10 level
>continues one shotting the party
>no one want to fight it

>>143711714

got 3 manticen cards yesterday

how much gem exp does a beetleback recipe does?

>>143712125
Leveling up as a cleric isnt really that hard.

The melee support versions are idiot proof where you just go around auto attacking and refreshing your buffs.

Cleric->priest3->chaplain->cleric2->PD(or kebab or honestly anything you want) is the epitome of solo grinding without trouble until the high 200s

>>143711693
I'm willing to take the risk, no matter what the costs are!

>>143711608
>everyone up in arms with imc not giving a shit about western release

>Kim: "everything is alright"

>everyone together singing kumbaya

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>>143712303
>kabbalist
>kebab

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>>143712496
They are straight outa israel kouhai

>>143712595
Yeah mate but isn't kebab a Muslim/ME food?

>>143712880
https://tos.neet.tv/skills/41201

They have suicide bombs as well as chariots to get their bomb into your side of the map faster

>>143699906
Any swordsman that isnt me
>he has pelt
>proceeds to literally just hold C

>doesnt have pelt
>he doesnt turn off his provoke
>gets his a few times
>proceeds to afk on bonfire

>>143699464
Without DEX you won't hit players, which is what matters because Rodels are PvPers.

You can shuffle their DEX into STR with Shield Bash, but you need to be able to hit them with Shield Bash in the first place. From experience: You won't hit them with Shield Bash.

You could try Accuracy equipment to compensate, but it's not enough.

>>143713038
That's nice and all but I still don't get the relation between a jewish class and an "arab" food.

>>143713191
Just ignore it, it's just overweight people thinking this is /pol/

>>143713141
Pretty sure you can get the value of at least 60 points of dex only from gems.

>>143713191
Kebab is a derogatory slur towards middle easterners and many other sand nigger tribes

>>143713305
>all jews are middle easterners

Can I see my other character's items in shop?

>>143713451
Yes

>>143701615
>>143702024

>Show up 2 hours later
>It's like some awkward tosg meetup

At what lvl should I be able to go dina bee farming?

I have three dungeon resets left. I am going to use them all and depending on what happens I'm probably done playing for the foreseeable future.

Wish me luck, or not.

Don't subscribe.

>>143702169
>Be in dungeon run with bokor
>Nobody needs healing
>Lay down heals anyway specifically for the zombies, since the cooldown will time out by the time anyone needs healing
>Bokor runs train purposely around tiles, avoiding them

It really is ingrained in em, huh?

Which monster I need to kill to open the gates at the 175 dungeon?

This retarded here miss clicked the option and entered the dungeon alone.

>>143714487
I hope you run your missions

>>143714435
153.

>>143714551
ticen magician up that hill. I'm sure someone will post a webm/ video

Bees or Demon Prison

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>honeymeli stingers
>gold bars
>zircon

Just kill me.

>>143713141
>>143713253
Try PvPing a high level Archer with mostly DEX. You won't hit shit.

Using a high level glove for accuracy only compensates for the high level boots that the enemy is wearing, and you can't get accuracy in large enough values from anything else. That I know.

>>143714942
both

>>143714691

Thanks, I'll try.

>>143715432
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6VmyhFw1O4
>1:30~
Havefun

Is druid carnivory good or shit?

Are companions worth it?

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>>143715030
At least you got the recipe.

Krivis 1 or Cleric 3?

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>grinding in TOS
>have this song on repeat
I must have listened to it more than a hundred times and yet it's still catchy as hell and never gets old.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBLNAf5Aeek

2hu is always great

Varena guild when?

>>143715752
if you arent a hunter SR or cata, theyre only good for raising team level.

>>143716256
Never ever until YOU make the templar for it.

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>>143715712

I did it, anon! Killed the honeyshitter, the mage and the big one.

You saved my talt!

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tfw listening to old avgn episodes in the background while questing

>>143716236
these ohayous are getting spooky

>>143716105
Please respond!

Required classes:
Swordie: pelt 1
Archer: archer 2
Wizard: wizard 3 (sorta)
Cleric: cleric 2

How correct is this?

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Does cloaking prevent "ambush" spawns? This is important since I'm grinding for rare mobs and even rarer mats. At this rate I think it'll take years for me to complete this item, feels a bit like Bernkastel's experience

>>143717387
C3 is pretty overkil unless you want more cure damage. krive will give you daino, zaibais, and zalcai, all of which are decent

>>143717463
Not at all.

Swodies arent required. Period.

>>143717463
>swordies
>required

lol

also wiz 3 is only required for mementalist, the cookie cutter chrono build doesn't take it.

so remove swordie entirely, and remove wiz 3 requirement as that's just for damage build and the list becomes pretty accurate at that point

Is it worthy more than c1 for Pelt?

>>143717874
>>143717463
I wouldn't say Archer2 is required either. It's good, but not to the point your build is trash if you don't take it.

>>143718129
You either go c3 for ET or only c1.
If you're going c3 for ET than I hope you dumped tons of points into con.

>>143717463

pretty accurate, and since we have 5 slots and only 4 base classes, you just go as a wiz c3 dd and a wiz c1 +support.

>>143716105
What are your plans for that character?

Krivis gives you more utility. People says Cleric 3 heals are over kill and Guardian Saint no one really talks about.

>>143717707
>>143717874
>he doesn't know the 50% bonus exp for having at least 1 of each class
>he doesn't know how much difference there is between a party with and without swashbuckling

>>143718409
Isnt worth carrying a swodie for and if two people run in and gather them into the same spot than that whole swordie's means for existence is removed.

>>143718245
uhh, I can't think of a good archer build that doesn't take it tbqhfam.

quarrel shooter cookie cutter? goes A2
sapper wugushi cookie cutter? goes A2
falconer cannoneer cookie cutter? goes A2
fletcher cookie cutter (not the horrible ranger 3 fletcher 3 monstrosity that I still see circulating, but the actual good build TM* cookie cutter)? goes A2


so yeah, in pretty much every cookie cutter build context, you end up going A2.

>>143718245
It really depends on the build, but it's safe to say most will be better off with it.

On forums, R3 F3s are on suicide watch and will cry and fight whenever "A2" is mentioned anywhere.

>>143718380
Cleric 2 or 3 or Krivis 1 then Sadhu 2 and Druid 2

>>143717543

>Does cloaking prevent "ambush" spawns?

Explain further

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>>143718513
Swordsman haters are back, I see.

>>143718732
>collared swordsman slut Representative of their role as being nothing more than a swashbuckle and tanking slave
how fitting :^)

>>143718276
What maks c3 so good for ET? And if you dont plan for ET why take pelt at all...

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>>143718409
>p-pls bring us swordies along.. t-think about the 50% exp bonus! c-c'mon, don't you want more exp?

>>143718895
Pelt 1 is needed et or not unless you want to solo 220+ against enemies with insane amounts of health

Pelt 3 is needed for ET to help mob for elememes and crucial for floor 7 and floor 11+

Your role in et as a pelt 3 will be to swashbuckle and than run around like a headless chicken since whether or not you have full con doesn't change the fact you'll die if you try to get a skill rotation off (yes you will still die if you hold c)

>>143718598
>>143718671
Yeah, it's usually the best option you can take at Rank 2. That doesn't mean it's essential to the build.

The only time I would say Archer 2 is a required class is for QS3.

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>>143718715
Ambush spawns are when mobs spawn right on top of you if you walk into a specific location. I thought that cloaking might prevent this since technically I cannot be seen when I'm invisible.

>>143718409
linkers completely removes the relevance of swordsmen, and they give better utility than "swashbuckling"

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where to get quest addon also how to do it!

>>143719316
And if they're a full INT Thaumaturge they can tank far better than a Pelt too as long as there's a healer in the party.

>>143719140
It's actually one of the few classes you can make do without it (excluding your c7 choice).

QS3 scales best on full STR, and kneeling shot is literally unusable late game (unless A3 and specific circumstances). If you go QS3 Wugu 3 you are not missing much at all from A2.

>>143718690
I think Cleric2 Krivis Sadhu2 Druid is solid. Krivis gives you another skill to use when heal/cure are on cooldown, and the attacks from all those classes can be placed down before finishing off with Possession.

You can also choose to end in Druid1 Kabbalist for more holy damage and better bossing, though Druid2's Sterea Trofh is really good too.

>>143719228
If I remember correctly, you'll still trigger them but the mobs won't attack because there's nothing to see.

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>>143719132
Could you people please stop perpetuating this ET oriented build thing? ET is only difficult because it's scaled for Rank8 classes and the monsters are 5 levels over the player cap. As soon as we get extended, it's just going to become another dungeon to be run every day by everyone.

The drops are good right now, but the requirements to craft them are so ridiculous, that they might as well be uncraftable. I have yet to see ANY of those high level orange recipes actually crafted, except maybe for the Agvara Cannon.

ET is garbage, not even worth running right now.

>>143719470
You should be able to solve this.

>>143719140
>it's the best option in all of these builds
>I wouldn't say it's required

we seem to have a difference in philosophy then. to me, if it's the best option, it's required. that's what makes a "good build TM".. taking the best options.

but I can see that required might seem too harsh. like wiz 3 is literally required for mementalist to work properly, whereas A2 is perhaps less about needing it work properly and more about maximizing efficiency and picking the best possible class at the time. to me though, that's a false choice. picking A2 is mandatory because it's the best option

I went cryo>linker2, aiming to chrono3 next. Is cryo3>chrono3 better os just "different", since linker2 can provide SpiritualChain + additional damage to enemies linked?

>>143719605
w-what do we do at 280 then?

>>143719623
Yeah I can see what you're saying. I think I'm just taking the word "required" too literally.

>>143719661
Chrono3 is the cookie cutter support class.
Take a guess what is good :^)

>>143719530
>Kabbalist
I don't want to be a Jew
What's so good on it?

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IT'S TODAY

>>143719661
Cryo3 Chrono3 is a CC monster, but linker is a great support too so it's pretty much personal preference.

Cryo3 is cookie because it's less painful to level up.

>>143719952
whats today?

>>143719606
would i ask if i did?

>>143719952
Give up, you'll never get mana mana

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>>143719697
Nothing. ET is an illusion. We had GvG, but they had to take that away from us, too.

Saalus is worth running, some of the stuff there is craftable, but beyond that, no.

Getting to job 15 is bad, too. Any mobs you grind beyond that level, you're just wasting jEXP.

Get to 265~270 and move to another character. As soon as we get more quests, do them and save the cards. Wait for the max level expansion.

The next Exp reset is 286. You'll want to pop cards to get there instantly, and jump to 300 with quite a few Rank8 skill points under your belt already.

You'll have ALL THE Lv11 CARDS from level 230 al lthe way to 300, it's so much exp, you'll probably have enough to reach the new cap instantly.

>>143719952
I believe in you!

>>143719872
Merkabah is a holy magic attack that gains a hit per skill level, and holy type is good in general because of double damage to dark monsters/bosses. Revenge Sevenfold reflects a good amount of damage and the buff applies to all nearby allies. Ein Sof can be used to recover party members SP with the attribute.

>>143720224
>he thinks this game will survive till r8
its already near ded m8, have you seen how ded it is on basically every community of tos?
the forums are ded
reddit is ded
tosg is ded

>>143720410
Then don't follow this advice, anon. It's that simple.

>>143720380
>Revenge Sevenfold
Only one hit?

>>143720163
Do you have experience playing with those 2 builds? I'm questioning because cryo3 seems more futureproof, and as much as i hate cryo3 and that dumb SnowRolling skill, i don't wanna be left behind ;-;

>>143720224
>Rank 8
I honestly don't think my build is futureproof.
After musketeer and cannon they'll probably just add some fluff meaningless classes and getting musket/cannon C1 at rank 8 leaves you behind.

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>make extremely ping reliant game
>have the shittiest servers ever

>>143720683
Yes, but even that is decent damage against bosses. Here's a video testing it on regular mobs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFcRkgO0s0

>>143719316

Play the game.

Swordsman can be a piece of trash, but swash buckler and C guard are one of the best skills/attributes in the game. Definitely top 10.

>>143719952
Never knew that was you until today.

>>143720965
So it's 7 times 700% damage?

>>143720756
No such thing as futureproof builds. IMC can nerf anything they want at any time even if it doesn't need nerfing. And a perfect C3 end at R7 will force you to take an R8 class and then you'll have to worry about when R9 comes out.

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>>143720756
We don't know that. You could be like Fletchers who continued to be good, or you could get Falconer2 or Squire3. It all depends.

Squire3 frightens me, honestly. The fact that made the Swordsman support class' ultimate skill be one that reduces death penalty makes me think dying on 280+ zones will make you lose massive amount of silver. Perhaps even items, too.

And maybe Falconer C3 will be godly? Who knows.

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Oh no!

When do I use my level 7 cards?

>>143721207
Certain exceptions apply. Regardless of what exists in rank 7, certain previous rank classes are viable if the build doesn't already have it. For example, the ability to pick up Linker if you didn't already have it. Or if your cleric build didn't have Cleric C2, you can pick it up there.

What's the stat distribution for https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#113222ee.2351.11213541.23617181.2145, senpaitachi?

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>wonder why there are so many useless full con elememes
>see shit like this

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This lag, did IMC move Klaipeda's host to North Korea or something?

>>143721737
I was about to say "be grateful you aren't playing an auto attacker" but you're a cleric. I'm so sorry

>>143721161
I think its received damage x1.5 (10% per skill level) and hits 7 times. Also if the enemy is dark type the damage is doubled because its holy. Divine Might makes that 60% bonus, and also makes Merkabah 6 hits.

>>143721819
Wiz gets stuck in place with autoattack and skills don't come out and their cast animation gets stuck

>>143719952
What are you waiting on?

Around what level should I start grinding demon prison?

Squire c4 (Knight) will save swordsman.

>>143722318
No, Luchador will

>>143722005
Same with archer.

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>>143722459
No, Murmillo will.

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>>143721654

The ToS forum is a cesspool of misinfo and retardation

>>143722459
The pelts will be salty when Matador is out and has a better taunt than swash.

>>143722610
Maybe he's on 5 or 6 layers of irony.

>>143721654
he's right though, with animus even high con elememes will blast shit

there's just one really big, huge, fucking enormous problem...

you will never be one of the 6 people who has an animus on the server

quarrel meme build has this same problem.. it's only worth it if you can get your hands on grand didel, and most of the memelords never will so they're going to have to abandon their character/build in the 200s when that shit gets particularly atrocious

>>143722668
Considering there are over 20 classes missing, and many of them are planned to be sub-7 hidden classes, most builds today will be rather irrelevant in the future, or suboptimal at best.

How long will Cafrisun last Chaplain-based builds and what eventually replaces it for most of them?

>>143722772
Animus converts 40% of base hp regen to magic amp. 1 con = 1 hp regen. Magic amp is essentially 0.5 magic attack. See a full int build here >>143721270, and I'm pretty sure that person is not even 280 yet.

So to simply MATCH that damage, 666 magic attack, you would need an animus to convert 3330 con into 1332 magic amp which is effectively 666 magic attack. Do you think anyone can get 3330 con?

What that retard doesn't understand is that people with an animus are probably rich enough to jack up their damage attributes and that's why they're outdamaging his shitty high con build.

Keep your misinfo on the shitty forums.

Why do so many people want to hold hands with a Chronomancer?

>>143723193
Literally just Hat posting it.

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>>143723130
Here, have my stats.

I'm not 280 but I'm almost there.

2 more levels before I can say I solo'ed to 280 with a full int build that /tosg/ kept saying was impossible after 200.

>>143723302
Why does Hat want to hold hands with a Chronomancer

>>143723352
He likes it quick.

>>143723334
That's because you have good ping.

>tfw will never have good ping

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>>143723334

Which build?