/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

>>143531817
First for HMPH

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first for mating with the Deep Ones

xth for the moonlight

>jump on bb after a while of playing dark souls 3
>play my lvl 66 brocolli head and invade frontier
>one shot them with a call beyond
Heheh.. also where do i get gems for my parasite?

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I NEED PICTURES
PICTURES OF DJURA'S PTSD

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>>143532248
You'll want to farm flat arcanes from the Keeper npc hunters and Brainsuckers in the Glyphs for Gems spreadsheet

>>143532519
>taking that long to kill brainsucker

Tfw you get oneshot by a rakuyo.

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why won't she wake up guys
i'm scared
guys no they can't take her from me

>>143532898
>ever running out of stamina vs a rakuyo
>ever being in a position where you can't dodge
You had it coming

>>143532946
>0 insight
There's you problem boyo.

>>143532946
you need insight, plague ridden rat

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>>143532946
in case of emergency break this

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>>143533008
dat spin hit confirm tho

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>>143533097
>>143533147
>>143533203
>need insight just for her to come to life

Even in video games my waifu isn't real

>>143533303
Yes.
And the horrible monster hanging off the Cathedral isn't real either.
Have fun!

>>143533303
not everything you can't see isn't real...

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>>143533303
literally the girl of your dreams

>>143533401
>have to go partially insane for her to come to life
Seems a little too true to life for her to really be alive

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>>143532519
Brainsucker is for bullying.

Fuck Crowsteel!

Greetings lads. I have 50 STR and I'm tearing asshole with the Whirligig, what gems are best for this piece of sex? I honestly think I can't go back to any other weapon after using this beast ripper.

Should I mercy kill Eileen after killing Crowsteel

>>143534417
you just need pure phys% gems. check the op for where to get them

>>143534549
Yes. If you leave, there will be doubt on whether she lived or died. Best to put her down yourself so that you know for sure.

>>143534549
It won't matter if you do or not

She gets up and becomes the Wet Nurse later regardless

>>143534689
DELETE THIS

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>>143532519
Unless something has changed flat damage boosts from brainsuckers don't t get affected by the kos parasites huge attack multipliers. It'll have higher AR but will hit for less.

IIRC best setup is the 23.1% ARC radial from bone ash hunters, 24.8% arc triangle from ebri, and a cold abyssal radial from HMPH

>>143534603
Thanks very much senpai I suck at gem fun time

Can Isz Watchers even drop arcane triangles? Starting to have doubts.

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>>143533636
Oh trust me, I know all about bullying Brainsuckers

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can anyone help me defeat kos?

i just want my parasite :(

Pass is bbg123

>>143536168
I'll be on soon.

>>143536239
k, ringing

thanks in advance

>>143536314
Not getting anything ringing at the gate.

>>143536569
i was ringing at the lamp, moving to the gate.

>>143536569
not getting anything. i'll try restarting.

>>143536569
>>143536608
>>143536716
ringing again at the gate.

pass is bbg123, set to world wide.

sry for the trouble.

>>143536906
Guess it wasn't meant to be. I think I even saw you running in circles too.

>>143537094
yeah. thanks for trying m8

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>fighting Ebrietas
>get it low
>call beyond
>charge
>call beyond
>charge
>call beyond
>charge

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Does anyone know where I can download the Future Press guide in PDF? Torrent or otherwise?

Ok so supposedly radial/triangle/waning is the go to gem imprint combo for split damage weapons that benefit greatly from nourishing gems, but why is that? Nourishings are all the same across the 3 gem shapes
In fact, it would be much easier to get a full set of good gems if they were all radial because then you could farm the gargoyles on that chalice for 19,3 % nourishing without having to savescum bosses all day long

>>143539358
Amygdala is really easy to kill and the % they drop go up to 21.5% or something. Radials only go to 19.3% from gargs and 19.5% from Rom

>>143540148
so the lost versions are only worth it if you really want to minmax then?

>>143540180
Yeah I guess you could say that. If you've gotten into D5 FRC dungeons though you might as well extract every bit of damage you can get.

>>143540308
would've been cool to know that earlier, I don't really care about that extra 2% if it means I have to fight defiled amygdala again and clear shit like frc loran with those fucking witch of hemwick type mobs

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How do you make the beast claw good? I want to like this weapon so bad but its drawbacks can't seem to be covered by its output

anyone willing to help me with orphan

pass is orphan, ringing at lamp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmlDPBC4vhE

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>>143541563
>the swell of her them
>Grant us spins
I love this so, my favorite piece of bloodborne media. Maybe next to the Lady Gaga Living Failures.

Does someone have the webm of her spinning?

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>>143541563
animation was nice, everything else was awkward

>>143541192
40/40 get max gems and the beast rune fro the big daddy fire beast in dlc

>>143541861
>Lady Gaga Living Failures.

what?

>>143542475
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqCRswUFePE

>>143542549
that was pretty good

we need a ludwig one of a horse fucking up a rodeo clown or something

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>>143542656
Yeah, I can never get enough of things-with-a-bosses-heath-bar-in-them

how good (or bad) is the Gatling gun?

Can I get beckoned by vilebloods through SRRC while having the radiance rune equipped?

>>143531817
Tell me faggot
Why the fuck you want bloodborne in the /dsg/ op if you keep posting here and making new thread to keep this shit going on?
Contradictory af

>>143543762
>tripfags
>logical

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who is the Valtr of DaS3?

>>143543491
I think it'd be possible but don't bank on it always being reliable
>Needing to find someone wearing the rune
>srrc

>>143543762
This
>Visit dsg occasionally for Ds3 stuff
>'Soulsborne' bread by Luci
>Most of the thread is souls regardless and on PC
>Find out most of dsg doesn't really want a 'soulsborne' general and is fine with two separate generals

What ever happened to having souls in dsg and bloodborne in bbg?

where are the pvp spots nowadays?

>>143544847
mergo's loft

getting insta invaded at 120

>>143544906
already cleared that zone tho
I'm guessing I can still get reliable invasions if I chime?

>>143545034
You can invade just fine if the boss of an area is gone. Also, apparently some of the DLC areas are good for invading too. Don't take my word for it though

>>143545109
I'm going through the Nightmare Frontier at the moment and I can invade people pretty quickly. I suppose any area with a sinister bell in the environment already is decent for invasions.

Most of the people I've invaded have been afk at the entrance though, so maybe not the perfect area for good fights

>>143545298
Yeah, Frontier's one of the other good areas for fights. Can't answer why the hosts have been afk for you though. Might just be a slow time right now like it is in thread.

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>Crows with dog heads

What kind of genius came up with these masterpieces

>trying to help a host who is shitty at combat with a defiled chalice
still wondering how this dumbass got past the 1st layer and managed to survive all encounters with madmen

>>143546142
If I remember correctly, there's only one madman in Defiled which you have to deal with excluding bonus areas. Hotdog can be a shit though. He tends to separate the good from the bad in the dungeons.

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>>143546039
I have my guesses on who

>>143546452
who is hotdog?
i should do every chalice at least on the first char

>>143546531
Watchdog of the Old Lords. If you haven't versed him yet, have fun.

>>143546518
Oh man, I thought those werewolves were looking a bit different recently as well. They're made out of legs then?

>>143546610
oh i did , didn't knew you guys called him hotdog
if anyone want to help with the other woods , i'll be playing in a few minutes (shadow of yarhman zone)

>>143546682
I think it's just the tails

>>143546691
pass is bbg

I can't find the stupid Hintertomb chalice

>>143546452
yeh that's precisely where he died, he was just mashing R1 near the boss when it decided to charge me, but ofc the host got caught up and instakilled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmlDPBC4vhE&feature=youtu.be

BB animation

>>143543469
If you upgrade it a lot (the damage gained from upgrading it alone makes it a weapon to surpass Metal Gear, no BLT really required) it can do great and terrible things.

any point in doin 43 twinks anymore since traffic died down?

fuck snakes
fuck the forest oto

>>143549815
>not liking the forbidden forest of free blood echoes

>helping all these new eurobros out with Amelia

fire paper with whirligig make her just stay in one spot while getting sawed

Started this project 2 weeks ago and promised I'd post it here today, so it's not finished but here it is.
Nothing you see here is final, the closest is perhaps to the degree of realism I'm going for is pillars and the beast, but I will change and refine those a lot as well I think.
Nothing amazing yet I know, since its my first real drawing project I've done on my freetime, but I thought you guys might want to see anyway. I plan to make more BB fanart like this during the summerbreak, will post here if anyone is interested.

>>143550904

I think I need more insight to view it

>>143550904
Forgot pic

>>143550974
>>143550987
I think I might be retarded

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>>143550904
Apparently the format wasn't supported, here it is finally lol.

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>>143551186
noice lad

>>143546682
The ones in Yahar'gul are made of body parts like the One Reborn.

>>143542350
>40/40
>beast embrace
ha
hahahaha
>>143541192
50/25 heavy abyssal+2 27% phys
it'll still be worse than every other str weapon gemmed the same way

Why does gascoigne have bandages in his EYES?

>>143550447
Whilst making my StrArc guy I spent about 20 levels just ringing for Amelia and going in with Doll dress and Flamesprayer

Good times

>>143548632
please post this 5 more times

>>143552537
Blindness is the first symptom of beasthood.

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*cough* *cough*

>>143552791
Moon presence is a sperm?

>>143552791
what is the thing on the right. I recognize it

>>143541192
Beast Claw's an odd weapon. I love it for fighting bosses because having a constant stream of Beasthood and having Beasthood at around 380 and staying above 300 at all times is fucking insane.

But for anything else it's shit. You can fun with it in PVP, but it's always going to be low-to-mid tier.

>>143552905
Blood dreg

>>143552945
MP in cahoots with Cainhurst then?

>>143552791
That picture is from a Khrey's video right?

Si alguno de aquí habla español y le interesa el lore mirad sus vídeos, es de lo mejor que hay, de lejos. Me he mirado varias series de lore de canales guiris y otros españoles y sin duda los de khrey son los mejores y más coherentes

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDSuoYMIv_P_OjLjlAxn9_I4o-DKRFuEH

>wasted all flasks failing to kill the 3 shit hunters
>with 2 people co-oping who died

>>143553840
Regular hunters are harder than most bosses

http://gematsu.com/2016/05/bandai-namco-trademarks-little-nightmares-children-maw-grim-lullabies

if any of these end up being DS3 DLC this game might actually have a chance at being good

>>143554153
dunno, ds3 was a huge let down for me. pretty mediocre entry

>>143554153
Better not fucking be the new IP
any of these names pretty much ensure that we'd end up with a shitty namco version of BB

>>143554291
wasn't as bad as 2 but still thoroughly uninspired in most areas and so much B team horseshit in there.

I despise the engine that Dark 2 and 3 runs on, it looks and feels like fucking garbage.

>>143554380
dark souls 2 engine was pretty good desu, at least for pc

>>143554104
problem with those for me its , that they are linked

>>143554545
It's a piece of garbage, everything looks like it's sliding around rather than actually moving, the textures look like absolute shit. Metal things look like plastic and flesh looks like play-doh

Sure if you stick it on a monster PC it runs great and probably looks nice too but if you dont have a gigga nigga rig you aren't going to have fun in that shit game

>>143543762
>why should KFC exist when you can just buy a chicken sandwich at McDonalds?

^this is literally the same logic you are using.

>>143555515
>bad food analogies
>>>/v/
>>>/b/
>>>/dsg/
>>>/out/

Kill yourself.

>>143543368
Aside from the water that looks a lot more like HMPH's fight

anyone willing to give a hand with the one unborn?
think i should decide which weapon should i get and level it up
>using saw cleaver at +5

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>>143553063
>numbing mist a cainhurst original
>MP uses numbing mist

Also
>MP looks like blood dreg
>harvested from the blood of hunters bound to him
>that cainhurst queenie is trying to used to get preggers
>Oedon likes to get ladies preggers
>just happens to go after chicks with corrupted blood
>like Ariana
>from cainhurst

I mean...

>>143556812
Still need help? Set up a pass and I'll ring at fog

>>143557327
pass is bbg

Whirligig is love, Whirligig is life.

>>143557554
Ringing in a minute
>Have to change runes

Alright, guys, I think it's time we shut /bbg/ down and move back to /acg/. Bloodborne is just an Armored Core ripoff.

That weapon puzzles me. You have the best strength scaling in the game...and a special that negates It. So I was wondering how to build to maximize it's potential. Quality? Pure strength? Str/arcane? Pure arcane?
Gems suggestions are also welcome.
Thanks

>>143557863
l forgot to tell the weapons name, lts the Logarius' Wheel

>>143557975
>>143557863
You can do it pure str or you can use pure arc, but it depends on the mode the weapon's in and your stats and gems basically.

Pure str will be fine with just 50 str/10 arc and phys gems

arc obviously you want min str requirements, 50 arc and arc only gems

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>>143557771
thank you very much

>>143558220
Anytime m8

>>143557127
damn. I'm convinced now. So essentially moon presence is a fucking genie gone wild gone sexual

>>143558220
Also, if you're gonna stick with saw spear, upgrade it. Having a +5 at One Reborn is pretty late. Most are around +7 or +8 at that point of the game. Some even +9

>>143558407
updated it once , but i'm not even sure which weapon i will be using (doing arcane build on this char)

>>143559319
I'd finish the game with what you have. Saw Spear is solid for arc as long as you have the gems for it.

>>143559414
leveling it with pvp in mind
doing amydgala in a few minutes if you want to give a hand (no shortcut yet)

>>143559579
I would but I've turned off for the night. Also, if you're doing chalice dungeons at all for the cursed blood gems, you'll have more than enough echoes, shards and chunks to level up multiple weapons. What you use now can easily be changed later.

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REMINDER
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OUR TEAM WILL PLAY 3 HOURS FROM NOW, IN THE 5TH GAME
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cup

>>143559753
i'll open shortcuts and call it a day then
>+8
dont think i leveled the hunter axe so much on my first playthrough

Bored of Dark Souls 3 now, I wanna replay Bloodborne again
Which build should I make

Also I assume the multiplayer is completely dead now?

>>143560603
Strength is hilarious in BB, try it out.

Also MP aint dead, we here have a good community of players but you also get randoms every now and then if you chill in hotspots. I got invaded in Mensis and had an honorable duel, it was fun.

>>143560247
Let us cleanse these tarnished streets.

>>143560603
It's still alive and well.

>>143560603
far from it m8

>>143560689
What are some of the best strength weapons?
Ludwigs, Whirligig Saw, Amygdalan Arm, Boom Hammer?

>>143560807
Remove boom hammer, add the wheel, cannon, gatling gun, holy moonlight sword, saw cleaver, hunter axe, steak dinner.

>>143560807
Whirligig, Kirk Hammer and Amygdalan my man. Cleaver and Axe are the best starters for it but you get Kirks really fast.

Ludwigs and the Wheel also work well

I'd suggest Whirligig, it's fucking amazing and quite unique.

>>143560807
Also, what's the best origin for it? I don't know what stats you'd typically actually invest points into other than Strength, it's been far too long since I last played.

>>143561050
>Holy Moonlight Sword
I've never actually tried this, but is it seriously useful for strength builds in Bloodborne?

>>143561303
Yes, most of its physical attacks scaling comes from str in both forms.
The projectiles scale exclusively with arc, but you don't have to use them.

>>143561528
So would 50 Str, 13 Skl, 15 Arc be about right?

>finally net an arcane triangle after 3 days of farming
>atk down
frick me up all good and proper like

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>>143561659
I am completely clueless about anything in this game mind you

>>143561659
Yes.
Get more skill if you can, it gives you better visceral damage.

Anyone wanna do micolash? pass is hess

What should I take out for it?
And would my damage with cannon/gatling gun suffer severely with such low BLT, or does bone marrow ash compensate for that well enough?

>>143562046
Meant for >>143561841

>>143562046
>What should I take out for it?
Always stamina
>And would my damage with cannon/gatling gun suffer severely with such low BLT, or does bone marrow ash compensate for that well enough?
Cannon and gatling gun have D scaling in bloodtinge, pretty worthless. Just upgrade them and use ash.

>>143561837
Move points from Str to Skl until you have 25 skl. I would also shoot for 18 arc

>>143562386
Excuse my ignorance, but could you explain those points?

>>143562479
It scales slightly better with str so anything past 25 should be dumped into str, but the first break point (25) tends to give way more in my experience.

Basically, get 25 str, then 25 skl, then take str past 25.

18 Arc gives you access to the Augur hunter tool, which will let you parry or BS even when 2-handing your weapon.

>>143562868
But what about other strength-scaling weapons? Or is the HMS incompatible with other strength weapons and needs a completely dedicated build?

Item Discovery doesn't affect the quality of drops right? So if I'm farming an enemy that always drops something no matter what my discovery won't change the odds of it being a blood gem over a pebble?

>>143563091
HMS is really weird, it doesn't quite fit into pure str builds

just use Kirkhammer kek

>>143563262
enemies can drop more than one item at once. more items dropped means a higher chance of getting the item you need

>>143563091
HMLS is a Str leaning Quality Weapon with an Arc gimmick.

On Quality weapons (e.g. LHB) you want to hit 25/25 first. On Str weapons (e.g. Hunter Axe, Whirligig) you just want the minimum amount of skl required to use it.

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GET IN HERE, STARTING IN 10 MINUTES

>>143563613
I'm also doing a HMLS build.
Currently i'm at BL 65 28/18/31/13/5/20
So I should bring Skl up to 25 and then dump the rest into Vit and Str?

guys, need help killing orphan of kos. pass is bbg123

Should I got 40/40 STR/SKL or 35/35 and get arcane to 18?

>>143563689
So who's the nightmare we're supposed to slay?

>>143564570
Final Fantasy General, for today
Managed by Technetium
https://implyingrigged.info/wiki//ffg/
Truly, they are fearsome beasts.

>>143563746
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17185

Only if you're going to stick to the /bbg/ meta and only use the untransformed mode.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17187

If you're gonna try and use both modes

>>143564557
scaling is weighted
get to 25skl then put the rest in str

>>143563746
That's what I would do.

>>143564557
Leave Skl at 25.

>>143564727
I like using the tricked mode more because the projectiles are super fun and I like the way it handles.
I do use it untricked occasionally but mostly just because of that Claymore moveset.

>>143564790
>>143564867
I already have SKL at 35 and STR is at 30 right now. Sorry should've clarified beforehand.

is the threaded cane made for challenge runs? seriously

>>143565018
Then you've already wasted 6 points on strength and 1 on Skill where you really didn't need it.

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/17188
Is what i'd use to do that

>>143565214
What the fuck am I reading?

>>143565214
i've been asking myself the same thing.

i have my +10 and my +9 saw spear does more damage with no gems

Is there an easy way to deal with the fucking Amygdala from the Defilided Chalice dungeon?
I know that its head and arms are its weak points, but bitch is constantly moving around so hitting her arms is almost impossible, and waiting for her to lower her head so I can hit would take my ages till I manage to kill her.

>>143565214
I love the Cane. Its untricked mode is good for 1v1 and the tricked mode is great for crowd control. It's super versatile.
Plus it's one of the best SKL weapons for the first half of the game or so.
>>143565262
So I guess that might be worht a restart, huh? Bummer.

>>143565214
>>143565354
Threaded cane is fucking great for crowd control or for enemies who rape you if you get too close.
Otherwise just use your second weapon, I personally consider it's sword form fucking useless.

>>143565479
It's not the worst thing that can ever happen but if you're going for a pvp oriented build you may as well optimise.

>>143565559
>great for crowd control
the rakuyo and the hunter axe are better

>or for enemies who rape you if you get too close.
wut?

>>143565559
*its

The games have begun.
Get in the stream if you guys haven't.
It's Black Desert Online General, /bdog/, versus Roguelike General, /rlg/

>>143565018
Tricked mode still mostly scales from Str. The beams themselves are what scale from Arc.

If you planned on going to level 117, for example, then the ideal template build would be this:

CF-44/18/25/25/05/25

That leaves you at level 92 with 25 points to spare. From there you decide whether you prefer melee or beam spam. If you prefer melee then you drop your last 25 points into Str. If you prefer beams then you drop those last points into Arc.

So you end up with:

>CF-44/18/50/25/05/25

-or-

>CF-44/18/25/25/05/50

At level 98 you have to make a few more sacrifices, but the concept is still basically the same.

>>143565390
Waiting for her to lower her head is literally the safest way to fight her
Get ready to spend some time on that fight
Move up close to bait the big smash attacks and have a whack at the head when you can
Also, when she rips off her arms for the final phase stay close to her (not underneath) leaning more to her right side (your left side) to bait the arcane charged smashes
When she does those smashes, immediately move closer to where her head is going to be, the smash will miss you and you can get 2 hits with a slow weapon, probably more with a fast weapon
Don't try anything when she drools that slime shit all over, you don't want to get chipped by that, just play defensively
DON'T go under her, despite what some people might say, even if you don't move an inch when her jump is coming, it might still hit you

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srsl, can anyone help me with the orpha?

i've been asking for help for a day now. still nothing

please?

>>143565601
Yeah i'm trying to keep things optimized at 98. I'm probably gonna alternate PvE and PvP though.
Also the 13 Skl is because I wanted to try using the Cannon, but I ultimately didn't like it much.
A restart isn't too bad. I know my way around the game and can get back to where I was before the day ends.
What are some good secondary weapons to that build, anyway?
>>143565830
Would it be a good idea to split the points between Str and Arc? Like, to 40/35? I'm not sure whether I prefer melee or beam spam yet.

>>143565682
>the rakuyo and the hunter axe are better
Pretty sure the threaded cane is faster, and certainly looks cooler.

>or for enemies who rape you if you get too close.
Like the fucking dogs who are always near the keepers of the old gods who can breath fire and jump at you while ignoring your attacks. Having those fuckers at bay with the threaded cane is a blessing.
Really, it's useful for any enemy you suck at parrying or dealing with, since you can just keep your distance and chirp its health with R2.

>>143565956
where are you ringing?

>>143561059
Isn't the Kirkhammer bad?

is E scaling worse or better than D?

>>143565956
Dude I really would but rn all my home internet is totally screwed, only my phone is allowing me to post. Will you be around tomorrow at all? I dont mind doing Orphan runs.

>>143566136
A>B>C>D>E>F>....>Z

30 or 50 vit for a lvl 98 build?

>>143566132
Pfahahahah

I have a straight sword with 640 AR, is this thing bad

oh btw it turns into a massive fucking hammer that can poisebreak bosses and kill winter lanterns in an r1

yes its very bad, such delights as the beast claws must be better

>>143566147
maybe, if i don't get help.

or if i don't get him in the mean time. thanks anyways.

>>143566178
what are the multipliers? A = 1·stat B = 0.9·stat ..?

>>143563689
>10 MINUTES

>>143566584
E<=19%
D<=39%
C<=59%
B<=79%
A<=99%
S>=100%
If I'm not mistaken

>>143566004
If you want a balance, I would say go 25/25/25. Ideally you want to hit things with the beam AND melee at the same time anyway. If you hit things with the beam at point blank range and the blade hits them too, you get the damage from both.

>>143566005
I would say the Axe is much better at Crowd control than the cane or the Rakuyo.

>>143560807
Whirligig + Axe is the greatest str combo in the game.

>>143566721
It already began, like half an hour ago, see >>143565717

>>143566782
Not him but I'm a new player who picked the Hunter Axe as a starting weapon and I'm doing about 20 damage a hit to the cleric beast while two handing
Does it get better?

>>143566960
>I'm doing about 20 damage a hit to the cleric beast while two handing
Literally how?

>>143566782
Is the axe a better choice to upgrade than the kirkhammer?

Anyone who's not scared come to n6rc for fight club

>>143566960
Repair your weapon.

howdy
i'm about to start fighting phrumerian elder for some cheeky offshapes
i can handle myself, but if any of you goons wants to hop in for some offshapes yourself, be my guest
pass is moon, i'll give it 10ish minutes until i get going

>>143566960
Is yours broken? I don't think it should be doing so little. It's one of the best weapons in the game, even by end game standards.

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Why does this gun exist?

It has extra range over the blunderbuss, but the longer recovery time after firing means you can only land the riposte if the enemy was right next to you anyway. Am I missing something?

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>when you catch them with the transformation attack of the HMLS

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>>143567109
I think so, especially if you have a LHB or a Whirligig in your other weapon slot.

>>143567142
I think it is for for the longer wider range stagger, so they can't just walk to the side and out of your line of fire.

>>143566736
l don't understand this, how much would 25 str add to a 200 base damage A str weapon?

>>143567895
the amount of bonus damage you get is based on 2 multipliers, one based on the scaling and the other in how much of a stat you have
25 gives 50%, so if your weapon was a C in STR with 50% scaling and you had 25 STR you'd get bonus damage equal to 50%*50%=25% of the base damage of the weapon

>>143567043
>>143567130
>>143567135
No idea what's wrong
I'm doing 150 damage total to it with a fully charged R2
Is it because it's unupgraded and I haven't leveled up yet?

>>143568581
It's because your weapon is broken or at risk.

>>143568581
I would just check and make sure it doesn't need repaired.

>>143566005
>>143566782
Whirligig is insane at crowd control honestly. I think it's the overall most versatile weapon in the game and probably the best.

Some weapons do specific things better, but whirly is so different between its two forms, it's insane.

>>143568475
l understand now, thank you anon

>>143568665
>>143568728
209/250 durability.
But I only have about 100 AR anyway so those damage values sound about right. I was doing around 80-90 per hit to the townspeople. Though only 15-30 per hit to the werewolves.

I assume you're just expected to upgrade your weapon before fighting cleric beast? I still beat it but it took about 5 minutes of wailing on it and 15 blood vials.

>>143568835
Personally, I use them like this:

Whirly one handed: Stunlocking/interrupting small easy to stagger or fast enemies (e.g. humans, dogs)

Axe two-handed: Crowd control. L2s and fully charged R2s are amazing for this. It's also good for hitting high targets like when trying to nose bop the Defiled Watchdog

Whirly two handed: Staggering large enemies (e.g. Watchers, Fleas) and doing massive damage, especially to bosses.

>>143568997
I usually have mine at +1 when I fight him. Regardless, the Axe does eventually do ridiculous amounts of damage.

Do weapons with arcane scale only scale if you put an arcane gem in them?

>>143568997
The axe is shit, saw cleaver is better against anything beastly and that includes cleric.

>>143569369
arcane improves arcane, bolt and fire damage
if the weapon doesn't have any of that, the arcane scaling does nothing

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>blood vials and bullets aren't refilled after an invasion

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So is Laurence arguably the main antagonist of Bloodborne? I mean literally all of the shit in Bloodborne and in Yharnam is his fault.

>>143570356
No, Laurence was cursed too, he's a victim.

>>143565956
Still need help?

>>143570356
It's the fault of everyone who got involved with that shit: Gehrman, Laurence, Micolash, Willem, etc.
Some thought they were doing the right thing (Gehrman and Laurence), some realized things would go to shit but didn't do anything to stop it (Willem) and some knew things would go to shit and were completely okay with it (Micolash) but in the end they are all guilty.
If anything, Micolash is the closest thing Bloodborne has to a main villain.

>>143570356
It's not like his intentions were poor. Plus he got fucked over as well.
The closest thing BB has to a villain is probably Micolash.

>>143570356
The main antagonist is Moon Presence. There's a reason that beasthood gets turned up to twenty during nights of the full and pale moon.

>>143570060
This so much. Every item should be refreshed all the time.
>go to town and anti posion and weapon buffs aren't refilled
What the actual fuck.

>>143570356
How can there be an antagonist when we don't even know what the fuck the Hunter wants to achieve?
Without going into wild guessing territory, we only know he seeks a cure for his illness and apparently wants to murder the shit out of everything (be it for a good cause or because he is a psycho) and an antagonist is someone who opposes the hero and stands in the way of his goal, and there aren't any characters who are particularly interested on stoping the Hunter from finding a cure or murdering everything (aside from Djura).
Everyone the Hunter faces either crosses paths with him by mere coincidence or are antagonized by the Hunter himself/herself.

>>143571314
I know "antagonist" wasn't the right word but i'm pretty sure he just wants to know who the "bad guy" is.
Which again could only really be Micolash.

>>143570356
He founded the healing church, and they were the ones that distributed the blood to the population. So yeah, l'd say he's responsible for everything although l wouldn't call him an antoganist since he did not convert everyone in beasts on purpose, he just thought the blood healed people

>>143571930
It was Willem's fault, it only happened because Willem's successors were cursed for his crimes in the fishing hamlet.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8BWTWyH3P0
What an asshole

>>143571930
Well, Laurence was only involved in the experimentation phase, but yeah he is responsible for at least getting together the group of people that would eventually start spreading the old blood.

>>143572046
Do we know if he intentionally turned the fishermen into monsters? Maybe they just turned into that due to being close to Kos's corpse and Willem just studied their bodies.

>>143572253
The fishermen were mutated by a parasite that came from Kos' corpse.

>>143572253
They were already monsters, he straight up killed everyone to see if they had eyes.

>>143572253
Kos turned them into fish people, that was why Bergenwyrth went there in the first place.

Are you watching the cup?

>>143572182
I can't condone this

>>143572409
no i have never watched the cups and its not giving me much reason to start now

>>143572329
>>143572360
>>143572373
Then what's the great crime? He killed them all, yeah, but they were monsters anyway.
A few years after that, doing that would be standard procedure.

>>143572409
Yes, /gerg/ is cool.

>>143572575
>he doesn't want to cheer for /bbg/
Git out loser.

>>143572607
The great crime is they either killed Kos or experimented on Kos's corpse and used her blood perhaps.

>>143572607
>but they were monsters anyway
good thing you weren't there, you would've gotten your ass cursed too

>>143572607
Because the monsters wanted to live and weren't harming anyone.
The curse started from one of them to begin with.

>>143572705
Nobody touched Kos, there's no reason to believe they did.

>>143572769
if I turned into a monstruos fishman I would actually be happy if someone murdered the shit out of me.
Isn't that the hunters's logic when the kill the beasts? It's not about hatred or killing things for fun, it's about freeing people from an acursed existence as some practically mindless monster.
And that's why Djura is full of shit.

>>143572969
The fact that they cursed their killers implies that they weren't very unhappy with their lives, in fact they were consuming parasites on purpose, just look at their nets. They harvested that shit.

>>143572409
where can l watch it?

>>143572969
>it's about freeing people from an acursed existence
that's Djura's logic.

Fish people were still sentient, one of them even talks to you, and the rest know you're a hunter and fuck the shit out of you.

>>143573153
http://www.hitbox.tv/UselessNepgear

>>143573238
That's essentially empty. Use http://www.hitbox.tv/the_4chan_cup (remove underscores)

>>143572607
>>143572607
>He killed them all, yeah, but they were monsters anyway.
>A few years after that, doing that would be standard procedure.
To beasts, yeah, but the fishfolk weren't beasts, they were just mutated, sorta like Willem himself later becomes.

They're peaceful and secluded, and he runs in and starts ripping motherfucker's heads open to scoop out their eyes and brains. Valuable research, sure, but don't act like he wasn't a dick about it.

>>143572182
You haven't killed it at least once?

>>143573581
>sorta like Willem himself later becomes
Well, I killed him so now I can feel good knowing that he either approved it or it was an act of karma.

>>143572969
No it isn't. The reason hunters hunt beasts is because the alternative is letting them run around killing everyone else.

Djura protects the beast of Old Yharnam because there's no-one down there to hurt so they aren't a problem. You're an idiot.

>>143573657
Nope, and I don't plan to. He's the most genuinely well-intentioned and nice guy in the game.

>>143573698
Except it's mentioned a few times than killing them is considered a form of mercy, specially by Gehrman and Eileen.
Why would you allow a poor fucker to continue living as a mindless creature who can't ever go back to his friends or family (and probably even killed them)?

>>143573903
A mindless creature doesn't care about friends or family.

>>143573835
When I met him in my first playthrough I was sure he had something shady going on.
Like, he would laugh like a pyscho (or at least it sounded like a psycho laugh to me) every time he mentioned bringing people to the chapel, while Iosefka seemed like a nice old lady.
Thanks God someone spoiled me about that one or I'd feel like shit.

>>143574054
I never had any suspect about the chapel dweller, but I only discovered that Iosefka wasn't telling me the truth after I brought her her first patient (the sedatives lady).

>>143574013
Maybe, but they were once human beings and I think they deserve a better fate than that.
If they were just animals, then I'd be okay with them living, but personally I wouldn't like it if someone I know has to live as a monster just because some old cunt developed a conscience after commiting genocide.

>>143573420
so when does /bbg/ play?

>>143574283
Being alive is the best fate you can ask for.

>>143574290
After this current game between /mggg/ and /aog/, there is one more between /tf2g/ and /fgog/.
So there's one more game, then our game.

>>143574387
It depends,
If there is life after death in BB (aside from being a zombie, having your mind trapped in the Nightmare or weird shit like that), then killing them is the right thing to do.
If there isn't, then living as beasts is the best they can hope for so and there isn't a need to kill them as long as they aren't a danger to anyone.

>>143573903
>Gehrman
Doesn't say anything about mercy for beasts, not sure what you're talking about.

>Eileen
She's talking about the blood addled hunters, anon. No one besides Djura gives a shit about the beasts or what they feel or anything.

>Paarl when your only upgraded weapon is Rifle Spear

Alright then, guess I'm coming back later

is it just me or is every single person with BLT builds a colossal scumbag?
>sitting in an area cleared of enemies waiting for invasions
>don't blood bullet
>never engage, always play passively
>attack only once and immediately quickstep as far away as possible
>either spam gunshots to attempt a parry or bust out the marrow ash and try to bring you down from afar

>>143574801
>not sure what you're talking about
Burial blade description
>Trick weapon wielded by Gehrman, the first hunter.
>A masterpiece that defined the entire array of weapons crafted at the workshop. Its blade is forged with siderite, said to have fallen from the heavens.
>Gehrman surely saw the hunt as a dirge of farewell, wishing only that his prey might rest in peace, never again to awaken to another harrowing nightmare

>>143574970
>never again to awaken to another harrowing nightmare

Nothing in this game gives me more trouble than that rifle spear nigger.

>>143574970
>Gehrman's prey when using the Burial Blade isn't beasts, Anon, it's you

>>143574970
it's talking about the hunters he kills in the dream dude

>>143575218
And?
He was putting them to a final resting place, hoping that they never again awaken as a beastly idiot
Mercy killing

>>143575472
>Implying he only used the burial after his hunting days were over and he was trapped in the dream
He killed a shitload of beasts with that beforehand, it was made for hunting beasts and he wanted them to finally be at rest

>>143575527
Refer to above, it talks about everyone and it was his primary, if not only, beast hunting weapon

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Anybody interested in helping me fight Ludwig on NG? I fell for the Boomhammer meme and I don't deal any damage to him

>>143575690
>hoping that they never again awaken as a beastly idiot
nice interpretation. There's no correlation between a beast being trapped in a nightmare, there is for a hunter. Find something else.

>>143575936
wait, correlation was not the right word, I meant basis
and, obviously, the beasts actually in the hunter's nightmare, like ludwig, are exceptions, I'm talking about for beasts in general.

>>143575936
>being a beast isn't a nightmare in itself

>>143576132
again, nice interpretation. Still not enough to prove that the burial blade description is inclusive.

>>143576358
> Still not enough to prove that the burial blade description is inclusive.
>Gehrman surely saw the hunt as a dirge of farewell, wishing only that his prey might rest in peace, never again to awaken to another harrowing nightmare
It's talking about Gehrman's views about the Hunt, you know, that little event where people killed beasts.
It's about killing beasts, not just hunters (even if he still used it for that). Not to mention that the Burial Blade was created before Gehrman was trapped inside the Hunter's Dream.

>>143575808
Just summon Valtyr and have him tank the bastard.

>>143573903
Mindless creatures don't form primitive societies complete with religious practices, functional architecture, and gender roles.

>>143576590
I'm running out of ways to say this.
No shit Gehrman used the Burial Blade before he entered the dream (the old hunters trailer even shows him with it in the hamlet). No shit he killed beasts with it.

None of that matters, because when they say prey, they're specifically talking about prey that will never again awaken to a harrowing nightmare. In other words, not beasts, unless you can demonstrate otherwise.

>>143576973
I could, yeah. I was just asking in case someone wanted the blood echoes from the assist and/or co-op with someone

>>143577134
>prey that will never again awaken to a harrowing nightmare. In other words, not beasts, unless you can demonstrate otherwise.

Hunters eventually turn into beasts and end up in the hunter's nightmare.

>>143577134
Again, it's perfectly possible that being a beast on itself is considered like being trapped in a nightmare. It's up to interpretation till Miyazaki shows up and says otherwise.
And again, the beginning of that sentence is talking about the motherfucking hunt. The whole sentence is about Gehrman's views on the hunt, so yeah, it does matter, because you choose to ignore everything but the part where nightmares are mentioned to say it isn't talking about beasts.
Gehrman's character is all about mercy. He considered killing beasts as mercy just as he considers "killing" the Hunter as mercy.
So going back to my original post, Gehrman does consider killing beasts as mercy, though I'm willing to concede that the fishermen weren't exactly beasts (at least not as brutal and stupid as the ones in Yharnam) and that Willem was a dick.

>>143560807
Kirk is pretty unrealiable for PVP in my experience.

My favourite strength weapons are the Pizza Cutter, Hunter's Axe and Moonlight Sword.

>>143577567
Only the ones who are drunk with blood.
Sane hunters never end up in the nightmare.

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WE ARE PLAYING RIGHT NOW, GET IN THE 4CHAN_CUP HITBOX STREAM

>kill Paarl
>enter Old Yharnam from Paarl's lamp
>Djura is still hostile to me

What am I doing wrong? I'm not killing the enemies on the way, but one dies every time from wandering into fire (where you can ignite the hanging BSB).

OUR TURN

>>143577764
They end up batshit insane anyway.
I think Djura is the only hunter in the game who doesn't lose his shit by the end, and only because he choose to not take part in the hunt anymore.

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>>143577771
LET'S GO!

>>143577820
Next time don't ignite the hanging BSB

>>143577764
>Sane hunters never end up in the nightmare.
Literally you
And Simon, Brador, Yamamura wasn't exactly sane but he wasn't blood drunk either, the other church hunters were sane enough to remember their prayers and protect their secrets from the intruder (you)

>>143578110
Simon is an outsider, he's like Marvelous Chester.
Brador and Yamamura are batshit insane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkvdpZmIGtw

The most badass cutscene in the entire game. Fuck.

>invading at mergo's middle
>not expecting fair fights, just trying to get good
>constantly lose to some BLT asshole with hard hitting gunshots and a chikage that somehow never fails to stunlock into at least a 3-hit combo if the first lands, and isn't any shy about using blood vials
>manage to land a 2 hit combo with the HMLS that rips a good chunk of his HP off and finish him off by spamming beams as he slowly backs off trying to heal
>feel no sense of accomplishment
Why do these people have to ruin it for everyone else?

Looks like I don't have enough insight for the stream.

Is the Stake Driver a pointless gimmick weapon?

>>143578829
1. Use a shield to block bullets.
2. Learn to parry healing.

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Streamer is kill. Hope he lives to come back. Stay tuned, Hunters.

>>143579029
No it's good.

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>>143579043
>use a shield

>>143579043
>parrying heals through environmental objects
>risking attempts to parry when he's full BLT and could just trade shots and win because he deals a lot more damage than me because he's fucking BLT
I'll give you the shield thing, but jesus luci try not to make a fool of yourself for once

>>143579228
It is actually incredibly effective if you only block bullets and BoM.

>>143579305
If he is backing off to heal then he isn't going to be looking for trades. If he goes behind the tree then rush him down. Invading there is my BnB.

>>143579079
which builds does it work with?

>>143579534
Quality is best, but it also works for 50/25 builds and arcane.

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help with orphan.

pass is bbg123

pls guys, i want my parasite bad :(

>>143579485
I can't read his mind you dumbo, he could either heal or shoot after quickstepping
The only thing I can try is staying as close as possible to him, but if I try to make a move and miss he gets a ton of time to back away and heal safely

>>143579029
>>143579079
It's fun, but pretty gimmicky.

>>143579637
People might be more willing to help if they knew your level.

>>143579635
how do people even have enough points for 50/25 builds anyway?

>>143579723
86 in NG

doesn't matter with pass though...

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GET BACK TO STREAM
WE'RE LIVE AGAIN

>>143579735
by having less than 50 Vigor ofc

>>143579690
>I can't read his mind
Well, there's your problem right there.

Seriously though, if you want to get good you need to learn to read your opponents (i.e. learn to watch them so you can predict what they are going to do before they do it and react appropriately).

>>143579789
A level 98 can do less damage than a level 43 due to down-scaling. So sharing you level lets people pick appropriately level characters, meaning, yes, level does matter.

>>143579485
You're better off dodging the shots than wasting a slot on a fucking shield.

>>143579789
You have no idea how many times people have turned up to fight Ludwig or Orphan and found themselves with 500 health because the host was a BL10 memeing fuck

>>143579972
I assume those 10 or so extra points in skill wouldn't do anything for you if you're mostly using strength weapons? Or is a little bit of vigor worth sacrificing for more weapon options?

>>143577719
>It's up to interpretation
So you can't demonstrate that it's talking about beasts. Good. We're done here.

The only one ignoring parts of the sentence is you. He sees the hunt (in general, yes) as a dirge of farewell, then fucking explains why with the second half of the sentence, which doesn't support your view. This is how the English language works, man.

>>143580072
>>143580229
well, is anyone gonna help or not?

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>>143580083
Too each their own, but I don't feel that it is wasted at all.

>>143580301
depends on the scaling really

/bbg/ is on for that soccer thing

>>143580339
If he's still raping you by the time our match with /ffg/ is over I'll help.

>>143580581
we'll never get in nep is a fucking retard

>>143580336
Bloodborne is a game open to a shitton of interpreation, stupid fuck, of course that there is shit that isn't clear.
And the Burial Blade's description does fit my view, you are the one who doesn't want to see it because "hurr durr beast aren't trapped inside of a nightmare but hunters do".
So yeah, we are done, since you obviously aren't willing to even discuss shit anyway.

>>143561935
Anyone?

>>143580947
ringing for the memeolash

i'll show him who the real nightmare host is

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>Kill gehrman in the dream, he reappears
>Kill gehrman in the boss fight, he does not reappear anymore

>>143581057
I'm ringing from the bridge, thanks a lot

these broadcasters are horrible oh my god

>>143581065
I think mp lets him go seeing as how you're the more desirable vessel at that point.

>>143581134
lol, forgot the bridge retracts once you beat him, fell of, ringing again

Fuck man this is bad

>>143581363
ringing of the 'earlier' part

>>143580752
You could've just thrown the argument without the hot air, you know.

You gave me an item description, I pointed out something that isn't up to interpretation to support my view, you gave me conjecture in reply. I'll accept your viewpoint if you can find me something more substantial than what you did, otherwise I won't. It's that simple.

ringing again for micolash

>>143581363
I got one shotted as soon as I jumped down.. fml

there's a guy named Shadow in the /bbg/ discord?

>>143580339
I suck with Orphan's second phase, but do you still need help?