/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

10 minutes to card reveal

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I really hope Blizzard promotes this card to Classic next year; it's just such a fun card to use and build decks around.

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1/3 of the expansion has been revealed now

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>>137212357

>>137212501
why do that when they can just print a new version of it?
It could cost 8 mana and be a 4/4 with the same effect.

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>>137212264
Is there a better feeling than killing a fellow Priest with his own entombed Dr. Boom and Sylvanas when you barely have 1 Legendary from packs?

>>137212501
I can't wait for him and captain "free combos" to be removed from Standard in a year.

>queue up for brawl
>play against mage
>turn 3 mirror image
Literally no matter what I do I'm not at a disadvantage for the rest of the game

how do you guys cope with blizzard not knowing how to make a game anymore

>>137212704
>Complaining about balance in the fucking brawl
It's a literal joke mode

>>137212704
I play Paladin.

If you get Muster, you just win.

You can get them to below 15 health before they even play a minion.

>>137212661
Northshire Cleric is fucking adorable.

>brewing janky control hunter in casual
>vs agro shaman
>he misplays lots like attacking his 3/2 weapon into an alcolyte to buff his spider tank when I have a frost trap sitting in wait
>play nef
>get healing wave and windfury
>heal him for 14 and then hit him for 16

Classic

>>137212704
I played Astral Druid and got innervate coin astral in the one game I played for the free pack.

Got turn 2 Rag.

>>137212846
I played Upgrade warrior.

Most of the time I got shrekt but there's nothing quite like upgrading ogre warhammer twice, popping two heroic strikes and swinging for lethal past a giant with taunt

>>137213012
That sounds hilarious, but I don't think I have an Ogre Warhammer unfortunately.

>murloc inquisitor
1 mana 1/3

battlecry: your hero power becomes "summon a 1/1 murloc"

paladin card

rip golden epic, too bored of the meta of zoo zoo zoo to bother making rank 5 this month.

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It's shit

>>137213121
>unfortunately

Any other time it's almost as bad as cursed blade. Not worth making just for the brawl but... well some pretty awful cards are good in it huh?

Amaz or Trump, I forget, crafted two golden poison blades for some shitty meme deck and it won a lot.

>>137213261
Make that shaman, Murloc Totemic.

>>137213337
>>137213331

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Hearthstone has gotten to the point that, when I sit down and play it, I don't expect to enjoy even a few minutes of my time playing it.

I do it purely so I can get gold and open packs every 6 months when they release expansions

>>137213331
Could be cool.

>>137213261
>>137213331
Awesome idea for a fast midrange murloc deck. It's anti-anyfinOTK and I like that.

>>137213331
MID RANGE MURLOC
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>>137213331
Everything went better than expected.

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they are really pushing this murloc paladin theme

>>137213390
Wow that's lame.

Why would paladin even WANT that? It's got everyfin shaman written all over it.

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>>137213331
This is just making fun of us for losing Quartermaster, right?

>>137212704

2 SW:P and then Thoughtsteal 2 mirror images of your own, silly.

>>137213297

>Shuffle 15 coins into your deck, courtesy of George Soros

Nth for Reynad is a fucking manchild.
>st-stop telling me not to be a whiny bitch or i'll ban you
top cuck

>>137213331
RIP WARHORSE TRAINER

>>137213331
I actually like this. It makes a midrange Murlocadin pretty fun to play if nothing else.

It's terrible for the Anyfin OTK combo but that shit is boring as fuck anyway. I like this better.

>>137213331
pretty good

why has everything good in this expansion gone exclusively to paladin

>>137213331
Do you even get punished for playing this in regular midrange Paladin just for the 1/3 body?

>>137213331
This is pretty cool, I like it.

Glad they gave up trying to make Shaman the murloc class.

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>its a "Blizzard makes a garbage epic card" episode

Yogg-Saron is going to be turning all minions into murlocs, just watch

>>137213331
so does this fuck with justicar or

>>137213668
well thh reason is HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>137213515
Is this the one furry that 4chan likes? I see this thing fairly frequently but have no idea what it is or why its popular
that plus the artstyle makes me worries that its related to homestuck

>>137213675
Quartermaster but he's being rotated anyway. If warhorse trainer somehow makes it in there I guess.

>>137213704
Can you even communicate without typing memes anymore.

>>137213331
It's certainly not "shit", you absolute fucking shieldbearer.

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>>137213331
>Courtesy of Ben 'Runs a Hungry Crab' Brode

>>137213704
it's a straight upgrade from old pally hero power and it's a 1/3 for 1

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>>137213565
>watching Cucknad when Dog is online

>>137213331

I love this card. Midrange murlocadin has been a long time dream of mine.

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>>137213331
SHOULD
BE
FUCKING
NEUTRAAAAAaAaAaAaAL

>>137213331
>it's shit

Shieldbearer spotted.

This is awesome. Uther confirmed Brode's favored son. Best cards in GvG, pretty good cards in the shit fest that was TgT, and its looking like best cards in WotG.

Why does Ben love Uther so much?

>>137213331
honestly really good

>>137213675

If you're not running a murloc deck but you're facing a murloc deck, that card would fuck you over because it would buff the opponent's minions for cards like tidecaller

>>137213727
Not a furry / fursona. It's from a "quest" that started here (iirc) and eventually made it's way off site.

Forget what it's called, but it's just an anthropomorphic character in a non-furry fantasy setting.

>>137213727
It's a character from Prequel, a mediocre web comic. She's a Kajiit so can technically be posted on 4chan.

now you just wait for them to release "Mrgl for battle"

summon 3 tinyfins and equip a 1/4 murloc trident

weapon has murloc tribe too

>>137213896

Stay away from my Darnassus Aspirant, feathered FIEND!!

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>>137212501
I wish this card was promoted to classic. It's never been overpowered, and it's such a waste to throw away one of the few decent cards with this ability.

>>137213947
Paladin is Ben Brode's favorite class. He said so in an interview, it only makes sense they get the best cards.

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>>137213842

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>>137213668
Paladin is Brodes special snowflake "fun" "for new players" "flexible" "value" class. Weve known this for a whille.

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>>137213331
WHEN WILL THEY STOP SEPARATING GOODS CARD BETWEEN CLASSES REEEEEEEE

>>137213896
Fuck no you dumb faggot. Then it'd be a straight upgrade from Finley (a legendary) in decks that want dudes.

>>137214127
i've lost turn 4 against this card

>>137214073

Chances are that ability finds its way onto a legendary soon.

>>137214127

>everyfin and anyfin in the same deck

Fucking no.

>>137214073

Loatheb should be promoted to classic, it's the only viable disruption card in the game

>>137213992
What if they play warleader though?

Without chow, it could just be run for the fact that it's a 1/3.

The question being since most murlocs are utter shit, is it worth to just run warleaders and murloc knights in a deck that plays it?

>>137214291
Yes please. Loatheb is an essential part of the game.

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>>137214141
SO
FUCKING
WHAT
Paladin gets a 3/4 for 4 that kills whatever 3/3 it transforms who cna also be used to buff a divine shielded faggot.
They get a 3 FUCKING 3 for 3 that makes his hero power insane.
They got WHO THE FUCK AM I, maybe the emost insane card thats ever been made,
They also got minibot and fucking muster which thank fuck are rotating out.
You wanna give Paladin the meme "fun" cards that define decks?
FUCK YOU

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>>137214073
There' no way tech cards wont make it into the standard list

>>137214127
If I can make a black/blue deck, why cant I make a paladin/shaman deck?
Riot really needs to fix this

>>137213331
I like this. Seems well designed since you're trade your 1/1 paladudes for 1/1 murlocs, just changing their synergies. love it, probably wont use it, but cool

>>137214365

Warleaders buff your opponents murlocs so that's a risk

I've ran murloc knight instead of a second challenger in midrange secret hybrid, works well

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Whats the best deck to gas chamber the Paladin menace?

>>137214141

The best hero power to take with Finley is rarely the paladin or shaman powers, so if this new paladin card was neutral it would only be a straight upgrade over Finley for murloc decks

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>pirates still shit
>shaman still shit
>pally already amazing and murloc even more viable now

WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

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Rogue needs some love.

>>137214685
zoolock

>>137214737
A 7 mana 4/4 that does not impact the board nor generate immediate value is not "love" for a tempo orientated class.
Compare this to auctioneer drawing you 3-20 cards for one less mana.

>>137214082
Ah so its true. Well I'm ok with this because paladin is my favorite too. Not secret paladin though fuck that, it is an abomination unto the holy light. Degenerate combo murloc paladin is pretty bad too.

I'm excited for zoo style pally murlocs though and the possible return of control paladin with lightlord as the fatigue finisher.

Paladin, Mage, Priest, Rogue best classes. Priest is getting shit so far but the others are doing good.

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>>137214715
Le ebin holy warrior guy with the Blizzard-aproved main character beard and hair getting sweet Blizzard love happening.

>>137214685

Taunt warrior or beast hunter

>nax has minimal lore rehashed from wow and adventure
>GvG has like no lore
>BRM has moderate lore, rehashed from WoW with a neat spin of Rag hating on Nef and such, decent adventure
>TGT has like, no lore
>LoE has like, no lore, just a bunch of random shit going on with people that hardly matter to any established storyline about a macguffin that was probably made up (wasn't a bad adventure but it was basically variety hour)
>WotOG has a shit load of AU / Book lore
>no adventure

REEEEEE

I would accept "vs corrupted tavern keeper" with 4 different decks, one for each old god.

>>137214971
>Priest is getting shit so far

Legendary seems OK. No other card has that effect, might be a sleeper

Forbidden Shaping is good, not great since >random

The 4 Mana AOE isn't that good, to be honest.

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>paladin is the new huntard

>>137213331

>it's a card that should be neutral episode

>>137214465
That's one fat owl

>>137214685

>no Tirion

what massive faggot made this

>>137215151
Absolutely not. I hope all classes get their own murloc eventually though. At least one for each.

>>137214415
>>137214291

>freezefags will get to play solitaire with no way to stop them

God help us all.

>>137215302
Rev up those control warriors

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>>137215236
Someone who knows that theres only one top Legendary in hearthstone and the second best you can have two of.

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>>137215302

>losing the best angry tree noises prevention

>>137215286
I think you mean their own 1 Man 1/3.

Priest has Northshire
Mage has Mana Wyrm
Paladin has this one
Warrior has that mech (That no one ever uses)
Shaman has Mini-trogg
Warlock has 1/3 taunt demon

Only ones left is Druid, Rogue, Hunter

>>137214914

Auctioneer only works off spells though.

What stats would you give it to make it viable?

>>137215236
There's an Ashbringer behind the guy button.

>>137215594
>Has that mech

About that...

>>137215590
angry tree noises is being nerfed though

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>>137215302
Blizzard has said several times that Freeze promotes a playstyle they don't want in the game.

I would be extremely surprised if the deck survives into standard without taking a hit from nerfs, especially since most of the deck is built solely from the classic set.

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>>137215302
Based Reno is still here, anon.

Been fucking over Freeze Mages since LoE. Just look at this sweet motherfucker rewarding super greedy plays.

>it's a Reynad complains about answering emails and skype calls as his job episode

Fuck

>>137213890
>posting dumb weebshit.

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okay this ones kind of clever

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>people acting as if Paladin is still good without their wild cards

No minibot
No muster
No juggler
No shredder
No avenge
no quartermaster
no coghammer
no murk-eye
murloc knight is underwhelming as fuck without wild cards

Paladin will be a garbage class in wog, same as they were pre-gvg.

>>137216072
>weebshit picture.

I'm not reading that.

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>>137215594
>Northshire
Needs heals for its effect.
>Mana Wyrm
Needs spells for its effect
>that mech
Irrelevant
>Mini-trogg
Needs shaman to play cards
>1/3 taunt demon
Doesnt do shit beyond being a demon (which needs other cards) and being taunt
>this card
CHANGES HIS FUCKING HERO POWER FOR THE REST OF THE GAME AND MAKES HIM THE BEST FUCKING CLASS FOR A NEUTRAL TRIBE ARCHETYPE
OH WHATS THAT? LETS GIVE ALL THE POSSIBLE ARCHETYPES TO FUCKING PALADIN? SURE WHY THE FUCK NOT ITS NOT LIKE THEY COULD PLAY ANY FUCKING DECK SINCE ALL THEIR CARDS ARE FUCKING VALUE MONSTERS AND ARE ANNOYING AS FUCK TO DEAL WITH
FUCK YOU

>>137216072
Agreed.

>>137216072

Juggler isn't wild

>>137215660
Auctioneer wins you the game with unlimited card advantage and cycles towards a win condition. This just puts cards in your deck that you won't be drawing since you just died by playing a 7 mana 4/4.
The card effect is more of the problem since rogue is so poorly equipped to win games that go long, this is ignoring the fact that the stats for the mana cost are too horrible even if they could.

When does NA get to open our ranked chests? It's my first time.

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>>137216118

>>137216167
Juggler is getting nerfed for standard, its a certainty.

>>137216150
>Mini-trogg
>Needs shaman to play cards

You're acting as if this doesn't apply to Paladin.

I get that you hate Paladin, I do too (Post GvG Paladin, at least, they were fine pre-GvG) but at least come up with a rational argument.

>>137216072
>autist can't comprehend fun decks
>weeb poster
Everything checks out

>tfw you draft 4 Swipes and a Starfall

>>137216072
Lets see if you say that when youre still choking on WHO AM I´s cock while a 24/24 bloodknight and his 5 buddies come for their turn at your asshole.

>>137215594
No I really want every class to have a murloc. I like murlocs.

Druid should have a druid of the swamp card that turns into different murlocs. Like a choose one effect you know?

The warlock murloc would probably have to be shitty because of life tap but still they should have one I think.

Mage could have one that adds some weak spell to your hand like he's a murloc wizard.

Priest could have won that buffs health or heals other murlocs.

Rogue gets a stealth one I guess? Or one with some kind of combo effect idk what though.

Warrior gets an enrage murloc.

Murlocs for everybody.

>>137216284
2.5 hours

>>137214715
>blizzard
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>>137216118
>>137215889
Point and laugh at this silly person.

>>137216358
I drafted 5 swipes once

Easiest 12 wins of my life. Be prepared to get a lot of friend requests after matches you play them all

>>137216212

You have never played mill rogue?

>>137216284

When the 1st day of the month begins on Hearthstone time. For me, it's 2 AM CST.

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>>137216310
Mini-trogg needs shaman to spend his hand to be a threat and even then he can be removed and forgoteb about.

Paladin gets a synergy with his entire deck that is present through the entire game once that 1/3 is placed.
You think rationally.

>>137216361
>24/24 bloodknight and his 5 buddies

comboing that 5 mana muster with that new divine shield giver with blood knight?

You'd probably have an easier time making that nightmare dragon work.

>>137216486
You're new, right?

Lurk a bit more before posting, kid.

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>>137216486

>>137216579
Mill rogue is not a deck seeking to get long term value, nor would it want a 7 mana 4/4. It is a combo deck that happens to use fatigue as the win condition.

>>137216479
>>137216594

Thanks, can't wait to see what I get.

>>137216607
Doesnt need to be that card. It could be any of the cheap 1 health minions Paladin has access to.
And thats not even counting the shit that would be in wild with muster.

>>137216072
>implying paladin can't possibly be getting a good 2 drop

They'll be fine. Brode loves them too much to let them be bad again.

>>137216289
Why cause Reynad says so?

What if the nerf is making juggler paladin only anon?

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>inbetween intense, intellictual bouts of /controlwarrior/, I like to post anime to the heartshtone general.

>>137216509
9 wins so far. No requests. Bummer.

>>137216836
>What if the nerf is making juggler paladin only anon?
knife juggler should go to rogue if it's demoted to a class card

>>137216836
>Why cause Reynad says so?

Because blizzard themselves said they were looking at knife juggler. same as the druid basics.

>>137216873
Your meme was stale after the first time you posted that but-blasted mess. It aint getting any fresher.

>>137216728

Blizzard seems to be pushing the archtype to Rogue with cards like beneath the grounds and gang up. On what body would you put that effect to make it not terrible?

>>137213331

Great shaman card.

>>137217020
but do you think its rotten tomato ratting is fresher than batman v superman?

>>137216836
Also murloc paladin will have a fine curve even if they get no other cards.

Paladin is not going away.

>>137214127

>Make shaman murloc synergy card.
>Give all murloc cards to Paladin

Damn it blizzard

>>137217094
Batman vs Superman was an alright dumb popcorn movie.
The stake pasta is so boring it woudnt even get 15%

how do I bot?

Why is it Paladins have like half of their great cards as commons or their standards? Just ran into a dude in arena who had like 3 Keepers and 2 Minibots. Fuck trading against that shit. I had a great curve and everything and he just kept ruining my minions.

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>>137217461
HAHAHAHAHA

>>137217043
>Blizzard seems to be pushing the archtype to Rogue with cards like beneath the grounds and gang up.
Yes they have been, and there is a reason rogue is the worst class in the game with one semi-viable deck, virtually no tournament/ladder representation, and terrible matchups across the board. It's because they keep getting cards like anub'arak.

I wouldn't put the effect on a card at all. If I did, it would just be an undercosted body as the effect is bad enough to be considered a downside.

>>137217456
You hope you dont get caught then bitch when you do get caught.

>>137217461
Gee I dunno. Its almost like this entire thread isnt filled with answers to that question.

>>137217461
Paladin's are the special snowflake class of the game. They have to be good at everything, be it constructed or arena.

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Who /controllwarrior/ here?

>>137217461

blizzard needed a designated babby class after mage/hunter were solved

the patrician player only plays dragon shaman and buff priest

>>137217456
depends what you want to do, its easy enough to write your own bot for simple things.

Why do paladins get so many murloc cards? Are there a lot of murloc paladins in WoW? It just doesnt seem very intuitive to why pally gets the best murloc synergy cards.

>>137217960
>dragon shaman
Show me.

>>137217506
>>137217850
This.

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>doomhammer will still exist in standard

We will not get any new sludge belchers.

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Consider the following.

>>137218198
Why not just make it a 5/6 with "If this minion is targeted by a spell destroy it."

>>137218432
Fucking hell you're dumb.

>>137218432
because oc fags are more retarded than blizzard devs somehow.

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My first 12 wins.
Finally.
I've had about 3-4 10 wins before, and I always seem to lose before I coyld even touch 11.

Rewards: 325 Gold, Normal Dreadsteed and GvG pack.

Decklist soon.

>>137218432

Then you can silence the drawback away.

>>137218564
Congrats anon.

Will freeze mage still run ice barrier and ice block? I feel like maybe you can get rid of ice barrier but block seems like it's so important.

>>137218578
>>137218519
>>137218198

If you Silence the 0 base health minion, guess what happens smartass.

>>137218564
I always get about 480 gold and a pack. Never any cards.

>>137218578
After I posted that I also realize that the battlecry prevents it from getting pulled out of shredder and shit like that.

Fair enough.

>>137218558

See

>>137218578

There is a valid reason.

>>137218714
Yes, it will die, that is the point.

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posting again for feedback

>>137218195
infested tauren is our new sludge belcher

>>137218812
It's cool, way cooler than what we got.

Shit sucks.

>>137218564
Congrats m8. Just got my first 12 wins as well with a 4 Swipe deck.

>>137218848
>2/2 doesn't have taunt

Yeah, nah.

>>137218951
Yeah thats what makes it a joke
Its a sad joke

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>>137218714
>Why not just give it 6 health?
>"You're dumb for suggesting that"
>Yeah well if you silence the 0 health it will die so there smartass.


Fucking hell, how can you be this retarded? American?

>>137213402
Sounds like you have a problem.

>>137218848

Taz'Dingo will rise again.

>>137218812
Too strong. Shas should be 3/1 or 3/2

>>137214685
Control priest or freeze mage. You know, decks that don't play minions, because why even bother with those when they will get outclassed by the pally?

>>137218812
It's okay, a lot of these really suck if you don't have a board, and it helps your opponent dodge fatigue, but the effects are still really strong.

>>137219106
Finally my level 60 rogue has a purpose.

>>137218812
>battlecry
>not deathrattle
Otherwise perfect.

>>137218812
I wish this was real for the horror stories of people drawing all seven in a row.

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>>137218564
Here's the decklist.

>>137218639
>>137218717
>>137218941
Thanks

>>137218717
Well, I guess I always wanted Dreadsteed, so that's not so bad.

>>137218941
Congrats, m9.

I'm going to make my own card game. It will be like Hearthstone, but without the bullshit. I'll make millions.

>>137219507
>>>137218717 (You)
>Thanks
I never congratulated you faglord.

>>137219572
but hs already makes millions

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I know it's not a popular opinion, but I'm really excited about seeing all of these shitty cards.

The power level of standard is going to be so fucking low that maybe we won't have to worry about losing on turn 4.

>>137219594
I just click on the replies, forgot to check.

Does it really matter though, senpai?

>>137219572
Duelyst already beat you to it.

>>137219806

>duelyst

>not shit.

Pick one

>>137219802
Huh, looks like it auto-corrects "f'a'm" to senpai.

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>>137219650
Yeah, I can't wait for those 40 turns games!

>>137219893
Why not just say duelyst is shit?

Why choose to meme your opinion up?

>>137219941
First day here?

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>>137219941
Welcome to several months ago.

>>137219967
Me either!

If you don't have time to play, don't play shitter.

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I still say my version of herald is better. Or at least more interesting.

>>137219650
totem golem into feral spirits into turn 6 doomhammer + rockbiter will still be there

>>137213331

>"this card will be awesome for shaman."
>"I have a great idea. Give the card to paladin instead. HAHAHAHAHA"
>"w-what? what do we give shaman then?"
>"idunno, some random card. don't forget to give it overload, that's the class identity afterall."

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>>137220076
>You are an enemy of yourself
>Hit yourself with your own weapon

>>137218198
BLOOD MANOS
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>>137220000
Checked.
>>137220001
I did it before once, but I thought what it's just me and I forgot what I actually typed, but this confirms it.

Also yeah, I normally go on /tg/ and /gd/.

>Draft 3 Starfalls
>Never draw any of them
>Go 3/3 because of 2 paladins and a mage
I regret reinstalling this game
Crazy stories for your friends right guys?

ITT: Shaman's getting BTFO by based Brode.

Can't wait till paladin gets a better bloodlust and doomhammer

>>137213331
Pretty good synergy with Shaman's Murloc spell and pretty shit synergy with Paladin's Murloc spell. Yeah, clearly the sensible thing is to give it to the Paladin.

>>137220076
That wording is stupid. I assume it's supposed to mean for the purposes of card effects.

I can't think of a single use for this even if it applies to both players.

>>137220483
>so I executed my sylvanas and swiped my own face

>>137220438
>wanting the anyfin spell to get any kind of buff

This is good anon, they're pushing paladin murlocs away from degenerate combos and towards a zoo style

Freeze mage shits all over any deck that mainly has minions as a win condition it's not even funny.

>>137220483

Everything.

You can attack your own minions.

Aoe becomes hellfire.

Flamewaker becomes mad bomber

And most amusing of all, hunter shoots his own face as well.

>>137218714
if this isn't bait there's no hope fpr us whatsoever

>>137220629
So Paladin can be the only Murlock class? Just like they keep stealing all the other cool deck ideas for themselves?
No.
FUCK THAT
FUCK BLIZZARD

>>137220735
That's... alright sure.

>>137220832
What's the matter anon? Don't like getting well met on ladder?

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>1000th win is against secret faggot who ropes at the end of frustration
Wew

>>137220629
I never said anything about wanting to give Anyfin a buff. If anything. I want an Everyfin buff. Which is why they should have given it to Shaman.

>>137220483

>warlock can't Power Overwhelming for lethal.

That is pretty big, anon.

>>137218198
The real flaw with this card is that it would die before the battlecry triggers.

>>137220996
idk anon, might be too good with everyfin, shaman might actually win games.

>>137215683
I think that's just a Very fast card getting thrown at an incredibly hihg speed

>>137221101

Nope. Battlecry has to resolve before death-cheks happen, and the battlecry saves it.

Same as how healing totem can survive with geddon on the board.

tinkmaster's not going to get changed right? i can DE him?

>repentance
Why do I see a lot of secret paladins use this retarded card so much. It isn't good?

>>137212704
I play a deck that has absolutely no minions in it, so I don't know this feel

>>137221262
Oh, I think you're right.

http://www.hearthpwn.com/news/1247-hearthstone-patch-40116-card-balance-new-art-deck

TOP KEK

>>137221000
Wouldn't the only difference be that you could PO an enemy minion?

>>137221358
it fucks over my patron turns

>>137220735
It also prevents any spell or minion ability that specifically targets or benefits from friendly minions. So no Brewmaster, Armorsmith, Frostwolf Warlord, Shadowstep, Duplicate, Power Overwhelming, etc.

>>137221546

PO only works on friendly minions. If all characters are considered enemies, you can't use it.

>>137221358
You can put anything in secret paladin and just drop challenger to win games. I've seen double kezan, avenging wrath, gruul, and tinkmaster in different secret paladins over the past few months.

>>137214685
Literally every deck in the meta beats secret paladin. It's barely rated over a 50% winrate you shitter

>>137221794
even mill hunter?

>>137221295
please respond

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>>137221540
>Finding Blizzard-tier april's memes funny

>>137221794
Can confirm. I got stuck at rank 7 using Secret Paladin to rank up. Once you get to where everyone learns to counterplay it and save their removal for MC you start getting shit on.

The worst part is that the deck is so auto-pilot you can't actually outplay people with it, you win or lose based solely on their decisions.

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>>137221794

>>137222007
Mill hunter isn't a thing.

>freeze mage
>tempo mage
>Midrange druid
>patron warrior
>Zoolock
>renolock
>smorc shaman
>face hunter
>mill rogue
>entomb priest
>anyfin pally
All beat secret paladin with ease. If you are consistently losing to the deck, you are shit.

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>>137221540
So Ancient Harbinger was just an April Fools joke? Thank god I actually thought that retarded oc tier card was actually real.

ITT: People defending Secret Shitters instead of sending them to the mass grave where they belong,

>>137215081

TGT is about the argent crusade/argent tourny

>Anub'arak final raid boss

>>137222086
It was pretty decent. Better than a lot of other trash jokes I've seen today.

>>137213331
>You can run two in your deck
>It stacks like Shadowform
>Playing 2 of them in the same game makes your hero power "Summon 2 1/1 Murlocs"

How would you feel if this was the case?

>>137222405
no, the 4 cards revealed are true

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>>137222689
No you just have low standards

I was reading through the Hearthpwn forums on the opinions on Y'shaarj and it's really fucking stupid, but this might be the stupidest of them all.

>To all those who rushed to conclusions and didn't even have the audacity to read a card long enough to understand a wording, (mostly because most Cardstone players have never touched a card game before), where do you see the word random in this card? That ought to give you some food for thought.

>a minion you pull from your deck you have no control over isn't "random"

jesus fuck

What kind of deck for someone with brm/loe with as little crafting as possible? Assume I don't have any epics or legendaries.

>>137222783
Nah man, it'll pop your whole deck up on the screen and let you pick one :]

>>137222710
OP as shit, Justicar is already insanely good in midrange pally

>>137222829
face shaman
Zoo

>>137222783

If that were the case, Deathlord would have been declared OP years ago. It never specifies minions either, I can pull you biggest battlecry and neuter your deck :^)

>>137222405
Card draw is worth 1 and 1/2 mana.
6 mana =13 stats
13-10(harbinger)=3, 3 stats = 1 and 1/2 mana.
Now this is a tutor which is probably worth 2, but it's not a guaranteed thing.
Perfectly balanced.

>>137222974
>zoo
Doesn't that use a lot of naxx cards?

>>137222710
Too much. Card is already good and that's obvious to anyone who isn't a complete shieldbearer.

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>>137222405
I've got bad news for you.

>>137223028
Zoo has been around forever, you can play an older style of the deck from pre-naxx. It's weaker obviously, but still alright.

Steward of Darkshire

Into 1/1 Murloc hero power

With Warleader synergy

Thanks Blizz

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Told myself this would be the last pack I bought before saving all of my jewgold
Who wants to take a guess?

>>137223209

>Needing to play a total tribal deck without its biggest beatstick to get even marginal value

Hmm, well played.

>>137223286
nozdormu

>>137223028
Not necessarily, there's a burst zoo variant with arcane golems and power overwhelmings as the main win conditions that uses no naxx. Does still run implosion though like every zoo deck.

>>137223286
YOU DARE DEFY

>>137223286
PUT YOUR

>>137223286
Tirion.

>>137223286
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINDS

>>137223286

I CAN MEME NO LONGER

>>137223019
Except the effect will never trigger so it's pointless.

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After the expansion comes, would I still be able to disenchant Naxxramas legendaries?
I noticed I can do it now, but I am not sure if it will be possible when they roll out.

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The only disappointing thing about Inquisitor is that it doesn't upgrade the hero power as well when you play it again, akin to Shadowform.

That's all it needed to be fine, but instead we get a dumb visual upgrade.

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>>137223378
>3
>>137223426
>>137223431
>>137223461
>>137223462
>>137223473
>>137223483
Nope, it's the third fucking time I've unpacked VanQueef despite missing half the classic legendaries
BRAVO BLIZZARD

>>137223556
Then it's a 4 attack 6 health taunt or eats a hard removal.

>>137223614
yes

>give shaman murloc cards
>give paladin the good murloc cards

idgi

>>137223659
How heavy are those shields anon? They look pretty heavy

>>137213331
That card is so good. Standard doesn't have Zombie anymore, 1/3 actually trades with most 1 drops and only 2/3 drop is a joust card. If you go first you are guaranteed two 1/1's for 2 mana. Now you got 3/4 on turn 2 and 3 minions. That'll happen most of the time too.

Paladin owns the early game again. Only complete class in HS.

So what are the chances shaman gets to be a class when standard rolls out?

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>Crafted Cairne because he was good
>Used him a lot
>He stopped being relevant in any deck
>Disenchant him months later
>Months after that Standard is announced as a thing
>I'm going to have to recraft Cairne

>>137224025
I disenchanted and reenchanted Baron Geddon

I've also gotten him in packs a bunch

So we're not gonna be able to play Justicar after Inquisitor? I think that would be pretty cool but oh well.

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>>137223870
They're still dudes no matter how you slice it. Only now the dudes are otherkin identifying as Murloc because something got fucked in their chromosomes during the embryonic period. And because of this, the silver hand don't want to give a shit about them and now the 1/1s are left in the dust to soon be accepted by the nearby Murloc tribes as one of their own.

Only playing a second 1/3 will do absolutely nothing, and because it doesn't scale with anything it's absolutely weak in comparison to other things. Justicar isn't going to change the power any time soon, so giving it the ability to upgrade would have been miles better.

This is going to be loved by Murloc Paladin decks. Real Paladin decks are going to look elsewhere for one drops, especially ones that don't cost 400 dust a pop.

>>137223942

Aggro Shaman: 0%
Control Shaman: 75%, 100% if their legendary synergizes with an Old God.

>>137224224
>implying murloc paladin won't be a *real* paladin deck

It's going to be a thing anon just accept it

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Brawl pack feels good mang

>>137224303
Uh well all that's left possibly is C'thun. I don't see how any mind control effects are gonna synnergize with the shaman legendary.

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>>137224362
It's going to be a thing, this just isn't the card to make it so

>>137224224
>dust cost matters when looking for a spot in a "real" deck

>new player
>3 dust-tier legendaries
>bunch of dust-tier epics, only a few good ones
>6/8 packs from arena so far are gvg
help

>>137224427
I mean Yogg-Saron, dang.

how long till murica ladder reset? want my chest god dang it ....

>>137224403
holy shit nice pack
I got a golden hungry crab

>>137213331

>confirmed for never having played a murloc deck

>>137224563
Isn't it 12?

>>137224498
>implying most hearthstone players aren't dirty netdeckers who simply go on the internet to look for the best deck on tempostorm.com so they can become legendary with whatever they label as T1
>implying dust-efficient options aren't better overall for such people who probably weren't going to make Hearthstone their main investment to begin with and just did it for the meme

>>137224224
>Implying playing the second 1/3 will do nothing

It's going to work like Shadowform, it even has the same basic format for it's card text. Get ready for Paladins having 2 mana "Summon 2 1/1 murlocs" on turn 2.

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>>137221540
>Mysterious Cancer dressed like a christmas tree
This made me laugh more than I should have.

>>137223910
>If you go first you are guaranteed two 1/1's for 2 mana. Now you got 3/4 on turn 2 and 3 minions.
Anon, you know that the card replaces your hero power, it doesn't supplement it? You only get one murloc from hero powering.

>>137224550

>Each time your hero heals, deal each point of healing as damage to a random enemy target

That's how.

>>137224618
It was 3am EST, but after daylights saving time pretty sure it's 4am EST now

>>137224549
Dont play arena for packs, play it for gold.
If you cant make gold off arena youre better off buying the clasic packs with your gold.
If you can make gold off Arena you use the extra gold for the packs you really want.

>>137224771
but i wont get better at arena unless i play it

>>137224456
wtf anon? this is auto include in murloc paladin.

x2 this, x2 murloc knight, x2 warleaders, whatever other murlocs, x2 dark shire probably boom there's your deck.

the second 1/3 is fine cause it's still a murloc so it will synergize with the rest of your deck even if the battlecry doesn't get upgraded anymore.

This isn't a comob deck, that shit is dying with murk eye leaving standard, its a murloc zoo deck.

>>137224661
It's not going to fucking work like Shadowform, Shadowform specifically denotes that functionality in it's text.

It's going to be run as a 1 off in every paladin deck that doesn't care about silverhand recruit synergy and the second will be run as a 1/3 body in mid range murloc shaman.

>>137224661
>Giving Paladin a Justicar for 2 mana.
No.
Fuck you Brode.
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

>>137224742
Except that's not what Yogg-Saron will do.
I could see a card doing this in this expansion though, what with all the paladin healing and the shaman legendary.

>>137224661
It is absolutely not going to do that. That would be broken as fuck and you are literally retarded if you can't see that.

>>137224816
You can always watch good players play before spending all that gold on 3-3 streaks and only getting gvg packs.

>>137221540
Bug-fix jokes are an 8/10. Even if you didn't laugh they are pretty spot on. Challenger's Reskin is the only good one but it's great.

>>137224921

Let's be honest: did anyone see Y'Shaarj doing ANYTHING except summoning Sha? And then it didn't.

Don't be shocked when that Yogg effect comes into play, friend.

>>137224970
>3-3 streaks
actually ive had a couple 1-3s and even a 0-3, but ive also gone 7-3 and 6-3 a few times

>>137225047
Technically he might summon Sha is there are Sha cards unannounced.

>>137225047
It still technically could summon sha if they bother to release any.

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>alright team, what should we do with this new murloc?
>well, there's one class where murlocs fit thematically, and was the first we pushed murlocs in. that class is also hurting for a new archetype, and this new card's battlecry could alleviate its lackluster hero power for this kind of deck.
>oh, and this card even synergizes well with everyfin while working against anyfin.
>wow, you're right! paladin it is, then.

>>137225047
Do you think the Sha will appear at all? Didn't Garrosh have something to do with them? Warrior legend maybe?

>>137225130
>lets be judgymcjudgejudgebutthurt about a single card when your entire perception can be changed tomorrow by another single card

typical 14 year olds

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>>137212264
>mage thinks they're tough shit in tavern brawl cause of Dr. 7, trueheart, and unstable portal
>Deny them everything with secret hunter

>>137225158

Xal'atoh was the Sha weapon he replaced Gorehowl with.

>>137225107
>>137225114

Somehow I doubt they'll release seven more legendary Sha minions, and I doubt that non-legendary Sha will be worth dealing with.

>>137225261
Did you just call Dr Boom Dr 7?

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>137225261
>trueheart

nigga what

>>137225107
>>137225114
>It'll have a specific interaction with a minion and it's not listed on the card text
>and they've already stated only C'thun will have a bunch of other minions supporting him

Blizzard just shit out Y'shaarj, it has the laziest gold animation and the laziest effect that's just a slightly different Varian Wyrnn. And they'll still make fucking stupid amounts of money putting minimal effort into the game.

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>>137225130
lol get fucked Thrall

>>137225261
this whole post is a mess

>>137225158
I'm expecting warrior Leggo to be "Heart of Y'Shaarj" and it'll replace your hero ala Jaraxxus.

Sha will have to be neutral to synergize with Y'Shaarj. Like the C'Thun cultists.

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All I want from my 50 WotoG packs is to get N´Zoth, the full set of Cthun Cultists and maybe Herald Volazj.

What about you /hsg/?

>>137224762
Why tho

>>137225441
All the paladin cards, aka the good cards

>>137225441

Crafting Golden N'Zoth and that's it. I held onto everything else for ControlRattle Hunter.

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>>137225130
>It's wearing a robe
>It's a murloc
>Looks like a Mage or Warlock card
>Hell, could even fit in Shaman thematically
>"Just slap Inquisitor in the name and make it a Paladin card!"

>>137225441
I want to get golden ctun and his golden followers

>>137225441
Doesn't matter. I have enough gold saved up for like a hundred packs. I have an FC now and I'll have one again by the end of release day.

>>137225441
I'm really excited about a lot of the new cards. N'Zoth and Xaril are my favorite so far.

>>137225516
Welcome to my shitlist.

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>>137225385
>>137225321
>>137225329
Am i being trolled? Everyone calls boom Dr. 7. He portal'd a trueheart and played it turn 3.