Hollowed: >>135821494
>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/XhBxC (DeS)
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf (DaS2)
http://flockmod.com/dsg
>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a
>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E
>Essential PC mods
http://pastebin.com/XwL5KDhB
>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n
>DARK SOULS 3
http://pastebin.com/RDDaqtcP>True
Colors of Darkness Trailer
[YouTube] Dark Souls III - Shadows Ahead | PS4, X1, PC
http://www.gamersyde.com/download_dark_souls_iii_true_colors_of_darkness-36715_en.html
>List of Confirmed Dark Souls 3 weapons
http://pastebin.com/SPbWEGnH
WEAK PARS BUDDEHI miss him ;~;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ09Se1FASE
>Demons Souls runs at 30fps
>fantastic game
>Dark Souls runs at 30 fps (have to break the game to get it to run at 60)
>fantastic game
>Dark Souls 2 runs at 60 fps
>horrible game
>Bloodborne runs at 30 fps
>fantastic game
I think I see a pattern here. Why do Pcucks fall for the 60 fps meme?
we back now
pc players eternally garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG2JJGg3zPs
Should I buy The Division for $40.
I dont have a PS4 so I cant get the weeb DS3, and I've already replayed all the Souls games.
Need something to do after I go dark next week
>>135842752
>taking SoulsBorne PvP seriously
>>135842854
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSSkz6iDPvM
>>135821931
>high level pyromancy includes a shotgun pyromancy
I found the new dark bead of boss killers
>>135842872
>being a newfag
>>135842949
Thats fixed
>>135842557
Nth for powerstanced Orma and Reeve's
>>135843104
Still really funny though.
Need more crack?
Just a reminder Sir Alonne >>>> Fume Knight
VOTE!!!
http://strawpoll.me/7086324
>>135843420
Of course. Samurai are always more sugoi than knights.
>>135843112
Missed you.
>review copies clearly out
>nobody mentions if it uses denuvo or not
>everyone too pussy to upload it so the chinks can crack it
I am buying the pc release, but i want to play now dammit
>>135842410
>I have to back up every piece of common knowledge with sources just in case some newfag from /v/ stumbles across the thread
Kill yourself.
http://darksouls3items.herokuapp.com/
Here you go, importers.
>>135843718
>PC
>Buying games
Yeah anon, we all believe you.
>>135843865
This is being/will be constantly updated, correct?
>>135842557
Gonna get caught up with the lore of the Dark Souls games before 3 comes out.
Whats the best youtube/site to get caught up with it all again.
>>135843831
Common knowledge? Nowhere has anybody actually stated a total number of weapons, armor, spells or items for DS3.
Stop talking out of your ass.
>>135843943
I am rock hard now
>>135843865
>Carim knights dedicate themselves to a single maiden, just as Morne (bishop) dedicated to one goddess
I need to get his armor + weapon Asap upon release so I can go through the game as a loyal paladin.
>>135844004
No idea. It's from reddit. I would assume so.
>>135843112
Are you the guy who made the Sundowner cosplay video?
>>135843865
>washing pole
>darkdrift
>untrue dark ring
oh boy... I wonder how the ring will be used this time (it's to keep human appearance)
>>135843865
Are there any dex weapons that deal crush damage?
TROGDOR THE BURNINATOR INVADING TOWNSHIT SL79 DOWNLOAD REGION BOSTON
GET IN OR GET OUT
A reddit mod just contacted me to make up/downvote arrows for the dark souls 3 sub
>no longer have to upgrade armor
ooooh yeeeeah things just keep getting better
>>135843865
Jesus this site needs a better layout.
Should have categories for stat buff items, souls, weapons, key items etc.
I don't want to have to navigate through this entire page whenever I'm poisoned just to find what cures it etc.
So this is a new balder side sword?
>poke r2s
>dropped from a knight enemy
>most likely dex scaling
>>135843865
Seriously, thanks.
>>135844724
>>no longer have to upgrade armor
w-wat?, sauce? thats bullshit
>>135843718
You don't actually expect reviewers to upload it, do you ? They'll get sued the fuck out by Bamco.
>>135844634
ALSO WHOEVER IS THE ARTORIAS COSPLAY SHITTER WITH MCDONALDS INTERNET AND 10,000 PHANTOM RANGE CAN SUCC A DIC
>>135844653
Hide something from us
>>135844653
oh damn, don't let the importance go to your head bro
>>135844880
>succ
>>135844791
>not a boss
Looks like the dancer? Unless there are lesser enemies just like it.
>>135844797
All of DS3 players including a guy who was allowed to go into a Road of Sacrifices confirmed that there's no armor upgrades. And it wasn't a thing in BB and DeS as well.
It was a pointless resource sink so nothing wrong with it.
Today is the day I become a katanafag
>>135844924
This >>135844923 guy got the idea
>>135844985
This is a simple uncommon mob, maybe they will become more prominent when we reach Pontiff's area.
They drop a nice longswords with frost effect.
>>135844985
Are you new ? It's the Frost Knight (official name is Outrider Knight) that we've seen hundreds of times before.
>>135844996
agree completely makes the armors easier to balance also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvfkuRRGhI4
New Shiitividya. Got some thief gameplay in there.
>DaS3 uchigatana is a merge of DaS1 uchi and iaito
>even has a parry
damn
>>135844996
Has anybody found the Armorsmith yet ? I take it there's going to be some NPC who sells boss armors. The midget doesn't have an armor category.
>>135844970
hes dead again
HOW DO I GET THERE
I'VE KILLED THE SINNER AND THOSE 3 SENTINEL GUYS
I'VE RAN AROUND THE MAP LIKE A MILLION TIMES
Daily reminder that bows are viable now.
>>135845308
>no hyperarmor on swings and most likely shit hyperarmor damage
>meanwhile greatswords are almost as fast and poise monsters on top of it
>>135845219
The footage is just a compilation of his previous videos. A few new decriptions were shown, though.
>>135845382
Go back to the forest of giants
>>135845382
>that beautiful skybox
Woah
>>135845382
u don't
>>135845382
Try jumping.
Try fire.
>>135845476
Black Bow of Pharis also returns and apparently has a 3-shot weapon art.
You can totally make pincushions from enemies and that sweet fucking rolling attack from BB only makes them better.
But what i'm trully horrified for is bleed an poison arrows.
>>135845382
Throw a firebomb against the door and then open it
>>135845382
Try exploding those black barrels over there.
>>135845737
Bows are going to be cheese machines again, don't expect them to be good in combat.
I want to do a class challenge run of DaS, but I don't know which class to go. Pick one for me /dsg/, no sorc or pyro though
>>135845476
>DARK SPIRIT Legolas420Fgt HAS INVADED
>>135845902
Fuck off
>>135845909
ITS LIKE IM LEVELING IN VANILLA WOW AGAIN
>>135845881
>don't expect them to be good in combat
dohoho
>>135845476
People said that about Dks2.
Curse here, curse there...
Curse for he and she, why care?
A bottomless curse, a bottomless sea,
Source of all greatness, all things that be!
Listen for the baneful chants,
Listen as if in a trance.
And weep with us,
Oh, weep with us...
>>135846032
Wow you can walk while using bows now, fucking op, man!
>>135846032
And they are viable to the point of being annoying as shit in pvp.
>>135845909
>Legolas
now it's all about KiroTOSwoRDArtAttackTheToTans
>>135845543
He confirmed that in order to unlock the full red eye orb, you need to invade and win at least once. The academy assassin-type guy sends you out for it.
>>135846032
And Bow Cheese is a thing in Dark Souls 2, perfect for finishing off people.
>>135846029
>this is what greatbows are going to be like
>>135846092
Another nana disappeared
We beast mode now
reminder that avelyn + leo ring + dragon roar buff + counter damage from dragon roar guard break is the easiest way to punish shield shitters
>>135846409
That skill sounds retarded and hilarious.
>>135845308
Looks and feels way worse than chikage though.
>>135846275
Thatt can't be it. Gameinformer got it and they didn't have access to online in their build.
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/03/03/how-to-unlock-unlimited-invasions-and-solaires-armor-in-dark-souls-iii.aspx
>>135844019
>Nowhere has anybody actually stated a total number of weapons, armor, spells or items for DS3.
Muhyazaki said the total amount is going to be close to the amount DaS2 had:
http://www.pcgames.de/Dark-Souls-3-Spiel-55615/News/Miyazaki-Interview-der-Gamescom-1167484/
https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=de&ie=UTF8&nv=1&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http://www.pcgames.de/Dark-Souls-3-Spiel-55615/News/Miyazaki-Interview-der-Gamescom-1167484/
>"Anyone who has played the second part, the tremendous increase in number will have noticed of weapons and equipment. For Dark Souls 3 we intend a similar amount to pack into the game," assured us Hidetaka Miyazaki. "From a compact set as bloodborne we want to remove this time to allow more different character builds."
>>135846285
Never to base an entire build around.
>>135844019
http://segmentnext.com/2016/03/12/dark-souls-3-smaller-dark-souls-2-complex-miyazaki/
>He did reveal some other minor detail about Dark Souls 3 though. According to Miyazaki, there are 200 weapons in Dark Souls 3. From Software made sure that each of them feels unique to the player.
Why are there so many nefags today that haven't seen shitt hat was posted dozens of times here ?
>>135846542
They still got the key from the same guy.
Either way, he's central to it.
>>135846628
That weapon looks so retarded. I've watched that webm like a dozen times now since it was first posted after the embargo and it still look retarded.
It's only slightly less retarded than the Ivory King Ultra Greatsword.
Of all the brand new weapons shown throughout the press/e-celebrity videos, the only one that looks fun is the Great Machete. All the other new weapons look like trash.
>>135846828
That article is pretty trash though, and obviously is just a poorly compilated mishmash of info from the aforementioned kraut interview and the Edge magazine article.
>>135846828
It's an influx of /v/ermin. It usually happens close to release.
>>135846949
>I don't like magic in a high magic setting
wew lad
>>135846876
Yeah. He seems to tell you to invade people, but they simply talked to him again later and he gave them the key, so the trigger might be something else.
Also, he appears in Firelink after you kill Vordt, right ?
>>135847127
It looks retarded in general, not because it's magic.
>>135846949
Oh great, this again.
>>135847260
>It looks retarded in general
Wanna elaborate at all? What about it looks retarded to you?
>>135847260
Retarded is a pretty arbitrary term.
It's not even legit criticism.
Besides, the vast majority of people seem to like new weapons, especially the Grantletter.
>>135846949
No idea of what are you talking about
I'm rolling a FTH build in DaS2. At what FTH should I start to apply Lightning to my Mace?
>>135846949
You have shit taste anon
>>135846949
Will you fuck off and die already, Plague? Jesus Christ.
So I'm in Frigid Outskirts and I'm not exactly sure what to do. Sometimes three of those deer enemies will spawn at once and that's basically a death sentence, and my attempts to run to the boss door are only successful like one in four times. Am I doing something wrong? This is pretty awful.
>>135846409
I feel like it's gonna be more of a demonic version of Bonefist with Zangief's spin2win instead of DaS2's Hadoukens.
>>135847362
The shape of the blade itself looks retarded.
The moveset looks retarded.
And the way the magic comes out is silly and anime as fuck. The elongated magic blade accentuates how retarded the original blade itself is.
In terms of special curved swords, the simplicity and sleekness of weapons like the Gold Tracer or the earthiness of the Red Rust Scimitar are much better than this Pontiff Anime shit.
>>135847653
B-but muh mitsubishi...
>>135847398
>the vast majority of people seem to like new weapons,
Are you seriously going to use this argument to defend your tastes? "Most people like it, therefore my tastes are justified?"
>>135847398
That weapon does look really slow. But there are better ways to utilize weapons than NPC's.
Also, it may change in the players hands, only being so slow for NPC use, who knows.
>>135847653
>anime as fuck
Well get used to it, entire game is going to be anime as fuck.
>>135847631
>Am I doing something wrong?
Yes, you're bothering with Frigid Outskirts
Use the npc summons to take some heat off of you
Threadly reminder that grapes are not dragons
>>135847653
>its anime >:(
Discarded.
>>135847858
>Soundtrack is changed to Jpop in NG+
>hey lets fucking make a bunch of rats with statues in the way so you cant cleave a boss fight
>>135847653
>and anime as fuck
>anime as fuck shit
>in a game with animu/mango references
>made by japs
CALL VOOTYDOOTY, WE MIGHT BE ONTO SOMETHING HERE.
>>135847892
Well I did that once then four of the deer spawned at once while we were being attacked by two npcs. It was great.
>>135847653
>>135847653
I refined gentleman of suprebly realistic world views I see.
>>135848068
I want Romanovs to leave.
>>135847984
Not the worst mob fight to be honest. I actually thought it was kinda cool the first time. Could have been done better though.
>>135847837
The WA uses the exact same animation as the Bloodletter's special from BB, which was pretty damn decent.
On top of that, you get a massive poise and phys defence bonus during the animation, similar to the Perseverance WA, it's even stated in the weapon description.
>>135846949
>the only one that looks fun is the Great Machete
You mean the one that has nothing but overheads in its moveset?
Is DaS supposed to have massive frame hitching when loading a new area? All I have as far as mods go are DSFix and just a handful of texture upgrades.
I have a 970 and an i7 4790k
>>135847653
>it's not realistic :(
Are you fucking retarded? Absolutely nothing )except rapiers) is realistic in Dark Souls' combat.
>>135847653
Real deal man
>>135848068
fuck off ivan
I literally cannot get any nodes on DaS PC, SL 120 at Township
Just the other night I connected to the FC fine with Wulf's connectivity mod, and DaS is allowed through my firewall, what's going on?
>>135847984
Fuck you I liked it. It's entirely optional anyway.
>>135847858
>>135847959
>>135848038
I don't mind flashy in moderation. Shit like the Obsidian Greatsword or the Dragon Greatsword had flashy moves but they had good weight behind them.
But not anime shit. That Pontiff shit looks weightless and excessively flashy as fuck.
>>135847984
Don't kill npcs on your first playthrough before you have finished the game, you donut.
Best place for sl 53 coop in dks1?
>>135848323
Don't use high resolution texture replacements. That's what causes it.
>>135848276
THE REALISM OF IT THO
Okay so I looked up what the reward for doing Frigid Outskirts is and it seems like it's basically nothing at all. Is there anything good for beating the boss?
>>135848346
There's a newer version of Wulf's mod on his websitethat he posted about on reddit.
>>135848372
>It's entirely optional anyway
I hate that argument so much.
Optional is not a free pass to make shitty half assed content.
>>135848372
Isn't it pretty much mandatory to reach notblighttown?
>>135848408
Absolutely 100% dont give a fuck. Bring on the 2000 degree spins.
>>135848408
>excessively flashy
Go and play in mount and blade or something faggot.
This series ain't for you.
>>135848490
Beating the boss gets you the soul to make the Loyce Greatsword, which is probably the best greatsword in the game and one of the best dex weapons. It has 100% dex scaling (making it one of the highest scaling dex weapons) and has the moveset of a longsword when twohanded.
>>135848542
I'm not using it as an argument. I don't think it's bad, I'm just saying that if you don't like it then you don't have to fight it. It was a unique fight that did something different and I liked the experience.
There's a bunch of shit in DaS2 that's optional but is still awful and I don't think is excusable like the Ancient Dragon, Rat Authority etc.
>>135848250
That's nice and all, but why take buffs just to get hit, if you cannot hit back (looks too slow for PvP)
Like I said, it could be faster if wielded by the player, unless there is footage of that also.
>>135842557
What are the most fun bosses to Co-op in DaS2 in your opinion?
Anyone on PC with a SM of around 3mil wanna help me with NG+ Freja? I'm in NG still but want the Moonlight Greatsword. We could also possibly do her in NG++ for CSS.
>>135848276
Hey, we've only seen a very small part of Great Machete's moveset, and, considering that it's also slowed down due to insufficient stats, it's pretty damn fast for what it is: a fucking Greataxe.
>>135848408
>looks weightless
I dunno, he visibly struggles to swing it once the frost blade appears, and swings it more like a greatsword.
>Shit like the Obsidian Greatsword or the Dragon Greatsword had flashy moves but they had good weight behind them.
They were also really slow and had recovery frames, so almost noone ever bothered to use their flashy moves.
>>135848558
Not at all. You can drop down from the entrance to the rat area to another ledge and keep going to reach the Gutter etc.
>>135848816
>looks too slow for PvP
ahahaha
bb's speed is even higher than ds3's yet bloodletter's l2 destroyed everything and everyone on regular basis
>>135848706
>Go and play in mount and blade or something faggot.
Not him but don't you fucking bully mount and blade ;_;
>>135848858
>Fun bosses in DaS2
>>135848992
dumb axis cultist
>>135848706
>Cauliflower is this much fun
I seriously hope DaS3 dragonform is at least 50% as fun and unique.
>>135849030
Post yfwunarmed dragon-form as a weaponart
>>135848858
Most of the dual bosses are fun, since you get your own personal boss to fight each.
>>135849030
I really hope dragon form will change dragon weapon movesets to something ridiculously flashy and aoe-based. It's the only way they can compete with ayy flower.
>>135845543
>OR PERHAPS
>OR PERHAPS
>OR PERHAPS
IT'S LITERALLY OKAY WHEN MEMEZAKI DOES IT
>>135842814
because 60 fps is undeniably better
>>135848858
Sinh and Elana are pretty fun. Also the fucking Watcher/Guardian-Nashandra-Aldia boss rush is really great if you co-op.
>>135848879
Wow, nevermind. That was easy.
>>135849018
Literally perfect
Is there no special upgrades for weapons in DS2? Is it just basic upgrade with infusions?
What was that bullshit ayyborne thing when enemies explode into abominations? what the fuck
>>135849139
>Winged Dragonform with an actual jump into the air and pounce onto your enemies attack like the beast-transformation in BB
>>135846169
I honestly felt bows were much more useful in PvP in DaS, used them all the time. In DaS2 they eat way too much stamina to be useful at all.
>>135849358
Dumb as fuck. Like that fucking knight giant from anor londo. Put resins in his helmet. Got him good that fucking dumb giant. I hate them.
>>135848423
I have no texture mods at all and I get this too lol
>>135849203
That's a nice concept.
Example: 3-5 dragon weapons that change upon transformation. It would be really cool, and give some uniqueness to the actual covenant, much like milkweed/kos combo.
>>135847984
>firestorm
>heavenly thunder
>soul appease
really faget?
>>135849370
What do you mean special upgrades?
>>135848408
>greatsword
>greatsword
You do realize the Pontiff is a curved sword, right? How much weight do you expect behind a scimitar moveset?
>>135849578
Does it look like the stutter here?
>>135849549
Who cares, she gives free anal.
>>135845219
>Evangelist hat
FAT LADY SET CONFIRMED, YES!
Now i just want the winged fat knights set to be confirmed as well.
>>135849581
>you can find some dragon claws that work like generic Caestus and have shit scaling
>but if you use them in dragon mode they grow into your body and spread all around it like a dragon armor, your wings will get larger and you will get a ridiculous set of attacks and even ability to jump further like in butterfly set
>>135849802
Giants are anal. Stupid fucking giants.
>>135848706
>This series ain't for you.
So 90 percent of the melee weapons are simple and down to Earth.
Therefore, now the series isn't for me just because I think a bunch of the new weapons are anime as fuck?
Okay, animefag.
>>135848706
>>135849030
Beast Form is a million times better than ayylmao. Ayylmao is mostly just a cosmetic change with a couple new moves, Beast Form is an entire animation change through and through, literally turns you into Captain Falcon. That's what I'm hoping Dragon Form more resembles.
>>135849946
The game is a mix of practical and flashy. Get over it.
>>135849937
Would a blowjob from a giant basically be like fucking someone in the ass?
"Small hand axe used by Lothric slaves.
A cunning weapon for a cunning lot, this axe is quick and deadly.
Skill: Quickstep
Instantly step behind or around the side of foes.
Especially effective when locked on to target."
Are you cunning enough for the Thrall Axe, /dsg/?
>people would rather be dragonfags than completely and globally saturated
I want furries to leave.
>>>/trash/
Abyssmode 2016
>>135848858
Ivory King obviously
>Tfw kill him with 3 summons and without knights.
>>135850164
>quickstepping battleaxe
welp
Know what weapon im fuckin going with
Is my CPU good enough for Dark Souls 3? I don't know much about them, what should I look for if I need an upgrade?
>>135850203
The textures on that black goop look so fucking ugly, like an early PS3 game.
>>135849946
>90%
Game has always had a big portion of silly and over the top weapons.
No one is forcing you to use them anon, you can stick to your sword and board or spears, no one will blame you.
>>135849969
>Beast Form is a million times better than ayylmao
ahahahahahaha
beast form is a lame shit that is less viable than standard beast claws as entire moveset has ridiculously long startups without any hyperarmor and l2 is just a lame roar
meanwhile ayy has one of the best hyperarmors, dash pokes, double hit attacks, instakill wog l2, slug shotgun, tongue lash and other ridiculous shit
also ayy also changes all your animations, both dashing and rolling one
>>135850164
>Instantly step behind or around the side of foes.
*teleports behind you*
psh...nothing personnel...kid
>>135850324
I seriously hope there's a DBS-type weapon with that quickstep weapon art.
>>135849946
Do you think using the phrase "anime as fuck" makes you look edgy or smart or something? Because it doesn't. It makes your argument look criminally vague to the point of almost looking like bait.
The game has flashy weapons, like every game in the series has had flashy weapons. What you're complaining about isn't any more "anime as fuck" than the Crystal Ring Shield, Moonlight Greatsword, Golem Axe, etc.
>>135848408
Have you read the description? It breaks in like 2 hits.
>>135850164
Can you feel it?
Twinks in the heaviest armor possible
With Flynn's ring
Quickstepping with elemental Thrall Axes
Vigor gouged
Endurance gouged
Everything else untouched
The meta is approaching
>>135850164
http://strawpoll.me/7135653
>>135849946
>So 90 percent of the melee weapons are simple and down to Earth.
they aren't if you know shit about their real prototypes
Someone help me understand the Moonlight Greatsword in SotFS. I've got it at +5 but it isn't do any more damage than my Raw Bluemoon +10. I'm on a magic build so my int is 35 but even still, Moonlight doesn't seem that powerful. Should I say fuck it and make it raw as well? It'll surpass the Bluemoon then.
>>135849687
You needed to reach a certain level of basic upgrade until you can change it to something like a Magic Weapon. Just reached McDuff and he's already offering infusions.
>>135849969
for a 1 to 1 comparison I'll grant you the beast is much more applicable than cauliflower mode.
But on the funfactor I just find tentacles-galore more appealing.
Honestly either with some added firebreath/lightning breath would make me more than happy in DaS3.
>>135850530
raw does more damage because there is a chance to pass AIDS
>>135850478
>cunningly brutal
>>135850530
make it magic and it will scale more
>>135850581
Ah no. Infusions instead.
>>135850635
Oh, you.
>>135850429
kinda reminiscent of the flipping havelmoms from pre 1.06
>>135850321
Yeah, but bear in mind that it's not static and looks better in motion since the sleek black goop is constantly flowing and swirling.
>>135850530
mlgs in ds2 was nerfed to the point it's a useless as shit and generally lame weapon with horrible moveset and zero tracking on special attacks
>>135849946
>anime as fuck
Yeah, because anime is the origin of blades made out of light, you dumb faggot
And DaS2 already had lightsabers in it, so what the fuck are you crying about. This one is just a sleeker version with a less messy particle effect.
>>135850649
Okay. Thanks.
>>135850203
Pic related is all I can think of when I see the new darkness corruption blobs
>>135850530
Sell moonlight gs to Gavlan. Make bluemoon gs magic or lightning. Buff it with great/crystal magic weapon. Destroy everything.
>>135850417
"Muh anime"
This expression indicates a /v/ermin's confusion and lack of understanding. When confronted with something he cannot understand or respond to, /v/ermin post, "muh anime" or "muh anime mothafucka." This is usually followed by shitposting and inclining their headwear in self-congratulatory salutation.
why is it that every time i get invaded with a creo theyre either a hacker that instantly kills me or a complete shitter that offers no challenge
like in loyce i got invaded by some rapier fuckhead that just chased me around the map for a few minutes because he did almost no damage and wasnt a threat
meanwhile i got invaded again heading to ivory king and got teleported and stabbed for all my health, every status effect, and broke all my gear while his phantom was still spawning in
and red soapstone summons are always meta tryhards that i cant even scratch and kill me in 3 swings with no chance at retaliation
There better be a dual axe weapon.
oh god i already had enough nightmares about blighttown
dem tags
>>135851281
It's not so bad. A torch might help.
>>135851264
There was a guy with two axes in the concept art, so there's a good chance.
I mean, if there's fucking dual wield spears, there better be axes.
Hey /vg/ I've already played Dank Soul 1/2 but for the first time I'm about to try out a pyromancy build.
What build should I try? Or how should I approach being a pyro at start? Where should my stats go? I never casted before since I was a dexfag.
>>135851281
The Gutter isn't really too bad at all if your careful. Look out for the statues that spit poison.
Especially on SotFS where you need the torch to see at all
Luckily there isn't really any way to get toxic except for PvP andSinh
>>135851015
Bluemoon has SHIT durability, though.
>>135851316
>Casual
>Family Friendly
>Walking Simulator
>Dating Sim
>Cute
>Memes
>Action
>Difficult
>Dark Fantasy
>RPG
>Anime
>Nudity
>Atmospheric
>Female Protagonist
>Story Rich
>Visual Novel
>Great Soundtrack
>Action RPG
>Open World
>Lore-Rich
I sure am hyped for nudity + female protagonist.
>>135851264
Is there any footage of the Thrall Axe? My bet's on that one being dual-wield
>>135851626
Wear ash knuckle ring then.
Souls fighting game fucking when?
>>135851782
It was equipped in one of the videos but they didn't think to 2H it. 1H moveset is identical to the handaxe
>>135851619
You can get Toxic'd by Najka if you fall asleep when fighting her.
>>135851782
Dual Wield weapons are always mentioned as such.
>Legion ScimitarS
>Drang HammerS
>Drang SpearS
>Thrall Axe
>>135851968
Hopefully fucking never
>>135851968
Anon...
>>135850345
I've never played Bloodborne, but I'm pretty sure this dude is right. Long-range pokes always win in Souls PvP.
I've pretty much mained Dragon Form for PvP after I discovered it a couple months after Dark Souls came out in 2011.
The fact that the Roar is a free version of force that gives you a damage buff makes it STUPID good. You can easily break the guard of someone shielding and then toss a pyromancy or crossbow shot their way.
I roll with a +5 Lightning Avelyn w/ Lightning Bolts, and a Leo Ring. Easiest way to punish chuggers, turtlers, parry spammers, and magic.
Starting class is Pyromancer, 50 vit, 40 end, 16 str, 14 dex, rest is base. SL 79, I just use cracked red eye orbs to invade people.
If you wanted to use the Obsidian Greatsword w/ it, you could up STR to 20 and DEX to 16 for a total SL of 85.
>>135851976
so we're /tg/ now?
>>135851968
Dark Souls pretty much is a fighting game already. You have zoning, hitconfirm pokes into combos, okizeme, etc.
Backstabs are basically grabs/throws, which is why everyone gets super salty if you do one twice in a row in either Souls or any fighting game.
>yfw there's an area like the king kong bug chasm
>>135851976
>>135850894
I wonder if Miyazaki is a Miyazaki fan.
>>135852362
The problem with backstabs isn't that you can do them twice in a row, it's that if any fighting game had untechable throws that do 50% of your hp it would be considered an absolute crap.
>>135852567
>yfw the big reward for going to tier 3 of the dragonfag covenant is that you can become a huge dragon waifu that deals death to everything you you fight whilst in such a form
Can anyone assist me for Throne Watcher and Throne Defender?
I'm at 240k SM PC SOFTFS
>>135851976
Don't stop now
>>135852015
good point, Sellsword Twinblades too
>>135852853
Honestly Benhart does a great job in that fight
>>135852015
Caestus is just caestus, but it says it dual wields in the description
Are there dual daggers yet?
What's worse, avoiding all video game forums for 3 weeks or spoiling the shit out of DaS3?
>>135853027
I have both of them on my ass 90% of the time. And then I get combo-ed dead.
>tfw going to make a dragonslayer character
>tfw bathing in dragon blood
>>135851976
Does anyone have the one where the dragon rapes the female warrior and she gives birth to halfbreed?
>>135852568
is that the cave in nausicaa?
>>135853115
Spoilers.
>>135853063
What, you mean you don't carry around a caestu?
>>135853115
Spoiling
Avoiding forums is probably the best thing to happen to your life.
>>135852898
>Dedicated dual wield weapons
But can I dual wield whatever the fuck I want too, right? fuck you Mitsubishi powerstance was one of the best things from DS2.
>>135853115
Don't spoil it, Anon.
>>135852642
More like 70% with Hornet Murakumo
>>135853063
>Caestus is just caestus, but it says it dual wields in the description
That's because japs couldn't make up their mind between "caesti" and "caestuses", so they said fuck it and went with neither.
>>135853115
The last one. Studying is going to keep me occupied.
>>135852642
DaS2 and DaS3 have techable throws, technically. Only DeS and DaS1 have instant atomic buster bullshit.
>>135853115
definitely spoilers when 90% of forums boils down to "I don't like thing" versus "I like thing"
>>135852853
Sure, what's your name?
I'll drop my sign at the bonfire
>>135853275
>But can I dual wield whatever the fuck I want too, right
no
l1 with a dagger just blocks like a shield
>>135853275
You can't.
We're also back to DaS1 dualwielding where you block with your left hand weapon for some reason. It's kind of a step back.
you guys think a 7850 will be able to handle DaS3?
>>135853275
Nope, say goodbye.
Anyone got a sanctus to spare? Accidently threw Leeroy off a cliff. Sl 53.
>>135853115
Just pick up a few new games. I am saving Digimon Cyber Sleuth, FFX HD, and MLB the Show 2016 to keep myself clear
>>135853197
Correct
>>135853449
I'm Osbert The Defender
>>135853451
Just like my FLAWLESS DaS1, thanks Mitsubishi. The ability to use full weapon movesets in the offhand in 2 triggered me and solidified it as the worst video game since ET and Cheetahmen.
>>135852642
>untechable
>backstabs
wakeup ravioli says hello
>>135852362
Backstabs are a pissoff because they're an instant untechable throw in a game where you can't jump, and where the netcode mishandles it to the point where the fact that the game has confirmed that you have already been grabbed and can do nothing to prevent this fact often occurs before the grabbing player has even moved behind you. You can't iframe the 'grab confirmation' packet when it reaches your client, and in fact there's absolutely nothing that can be done on your end to prevent that packet from putting you into a grab.
If any fighting game had a grab that behaved like that over netcode, nobody would play that game online ever.
Also souls games don't have any real okizeme beyond backstab chaining (which is absolute trash. If chain-grabbing someone out of wakeup was possible in any fg, nobody would play it) and meaty rng spells like firestorm, which rely entirely on luck and can be easily shut down and punished by guarding.
Basically all souls games pvp have is spacing and footsies, and those are largely invalidated by having no local multiplayer and abysmally shitty netcode. It's less of a fighting game than smashbros.
>>135853115
I dont know, i really down care about getting spoiled.
I never had anything ruined by a spoiler i play watch or read it regardless and i dont think it takes away from the fun.
But hey, thats just me.
>>135853451
>>135853463
>>135853482
MEMEZAAAAAAAAAKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
>>135853469
It will run it, just don't expect to be running it on high settings.
>>135853618
Parry BS says hello
We can play this game all fuckin day
>>135853451
You have to be fucking kidding me
>>135852809
tier 2
>>135853759
>what? you don rike daku sorusu 2? rike wan? here! have mor stupid gaijin!
>>135853782
He's right. Powerstance and free dualwielding is kill.
>>135853764
What about an i3+750ti memecombo?
>Don't meet the minimun
Who gives a shit about the official specs
>>135853451
Based Memecucki
>>135853991
Have fun with sub 20 fps
>shitty and unviable powerstance mechanic that gave less damage to left hand weapon is ded
feels good
>>135853764
>settings.
Nice meme.
>>135853451
We saw footage of free dual wielding already. But yeah this game has made some retarded design changes
>>135853529
Well that was embarrassing
Signs up again if you failed
>>135854065
It can't be worse than playing on a PS4
>>135854198
Yeah I did, but I just noticed that I have my vpn on. I have to restart game and turn it off first.
>>135854167
>We saw footage of free dual wielding already
we only saw a halberd doing an attack in left hand
it will probably just block with l1 and have generic attack on l2
>>135854167
Honestly, my least favorite change is backstab confirms resetting the victim into a neutral "I was just standing here, not in a fighting pose at all" stance again like in DeS and DaS1. I was so happy to be rid of that jarring immersion breaking animation reset in DaS2 and Bloodborne.
>>135853582
ayy lmao
>>135853618
Anon. Throw tech is typically something that you need to perform AFTER your opponent grabbed you. A throw that you need to tech before the throw actually begins is bullshit.
>>135854223
It can.
>>135854093
Go away Mayonnaise
Am i supposed to kick down a ladder or something in the central gutter bonfire?
Like there literally isn't a way out, you can only jump to the other platform which is a dead end
>>135853773
when you wake up there's many ways to avoid chain
stand still - this gives you backstab immunity for a second or two, enough to make them whiff their chain attempt and you can escape or punish
barrel roll out
normal roll but to an angle
roll into someone
backstep
cancel with a fast wep
now it's the same as any oki situation in a fighting game, you're dealing with a mixup
a certain type of chain beats a certain type of defense ie
if you barrel roll on wake up to avoid a standing chain, this will be beat by a strafing chain or a rolling chain
if you stand still to make them whiff their standing chain or parry bs, they can beat this by delaying. if they delay and you instantly rolled out you've got away so.
lots of mixups, lots of solutions and lots of punishes for each solution. it's a guessing game, it comes down to mindgames at a high level.
try to understand that parry bs isn't a magical extension for chaining, it's simply overriding parry frames with your chain. the timing for the chain is the EXACT same as without the parry, it just means you can mash r1 to make the timing easier. it still gets beat by standing still.
To people getting the nippon version
http://darksouls3items.herokuapp.com/
>>135854167
All DS3 design changes are miles ahead of DS2.
>>135854401
you're supposed to break through a wall I think
>>135854401
Hit the obviously out of place part of the wall on your left
>>135854126
Why do you see memes when there are none?
>>135854429
>when you wake up there's many ways to avoid chain
There's also just as many ways to guarantee a chain, I was just giving one example you autistic faggot
>>135854462
No, shut the fuck up memester. Instant backstabs and stupid movemets for the left hand weapon are shit.
>>135854093
Should've just added dual weapon movesets to the powerstance, with no left hand penalty.
The new movesets are nice, but the powerstance mechanic was fundamentally better, allowing for a huge range of cool weapon combos to be viable.
>>135854638
Backstabs can still be whiffed like in 2
>>135854367
Especially since, lacking any way of playing locally, a pre-emptive tech requires you to tech before there's any indication that a tech is necessary. You don't just have to pre-empt, you have to predict, and your prediction has to be accurately far enough ahead to align almost exactly with the amount of delay is present at that point in time across the connection, which in souls netcode is usually no less than 50ms and more typically around 120+
If you walked into a room of fg players and claimed you were good because you win consistently with 50ms of delay and have never played an offline match, they'd all laugh at you. Even the cannonfodder sf nigs that don't really know how to play fg would laugh at you. Hell, even the weeaboos that buttonmash in uniel would laugh at you.
>>135854401
>literally standing next to an obviously discolored part of wall where the wood is rotten
Did you never watch a single Hannah Barbera cartoon in your childhood? Most people have a reflex for investigating conspicuously discolored bits of scenery from those.
>>135854638
Dark Souls 3 doesn't have instant backstabs, you retard
>>135853262
I wonder what it feels like to fuck a dragon girl.
>>135854198
Thanks for saving me for the 100th time.
>>135854598
there is no guarantee, retard. it's a mixup game. you need to guess, the exact same a a fighting game.
>>135854854
Np dude
>>135854847
>>135854763
Show me how you can escape backstabs
>>135854638
DS3 backstab system is way better than retarded back punch.
Now you can actually get punished for doing stupid shit bro. Are you mad? Don't you worry, it's not like you can't go back to DS2 and stay there.
>Want a Blue Flame build
>can't get blue flame until the game is almost over
I miss being able to run everywhere like DaS 1. Luckily I seem to always get 1 million SM way before getting all the Lord souls
>>135854429
Just because you can escape it doesn't mean that it's techable. You can escape a throw with a backstep. They still would be oppressively strong if you wouldn't be able to tech them.
>>135854853
warm and tight to the point of being uncomfortable and hard to actually do
>>135854462
sure dasdrek, whatever you say..
>>135854464
>>135854830
>>135854830
oh fuck i'm pretty i fucking hit like every wall except that one
>>135854916
>just as many ways to guarantee a chain
>there is no guarantee, retard
Someone's first language isn't English
>>135854853
instead of a vagina, you'd be fucking a cloaca, which handles copulation, urination and defecation all at once. So it'd be like fucking a filthy, unwashed asshole that's also stained with half-dried urine, but is much looser and has an uncomfortably course texture and carries the risk of the host losing bowel or bladder control at any point and showering you and your genitals with their biological filth.
>>135854853
>>135854638
>Instant backstabs
They aren't instant hit like DaS1. They are just a faster version of DaS2's system.
Instead of doing a punch beforehand, you start the stab animation and that animation has to hit in order for the backstab to register.
It's just an improvement on the DaS2 system.
My tax return is coming back soon, and after i invest in my CD, pay off some of my loan and whatnot, i will have like $400 back plus some spending money i already have.
Should i get a ps3 for demon souls, neir and drakenguard 3 and a second monitor for my pc, or a ps4 and bloodbourne?or both?
>>135855007
Backstabs don't lock you itno place, you can roll away even after the other player has begun the stabbing animation. You could see it several times during the NT footage, just too lazy to look it up for you now famalam.
>>135855069
it's not a mechanic built around teching. it has a defense and the defense is not a tech. drop your fucking tech bullshit.
>>135854770
Souls pvp would be an entirely different situation on a LAN or something, though
>>135854429
> it comes down to mindgames at a high level.
Holy shit. This entire post is hilarious. Thanks for the copypasta.
I'm gonna have fun posting this in fighting game threads.
suck cock or play ds souls i cant decide
>>135855069
Don't reply to tripfags, please.
Think I will be able to play this shit on medium/high at 60FPS @ 1600x900?
Some guy at reddit has played 12 hours, will dump videos.
>>135855210
PS4 for bloodborne and Dark souls 3
>>135853726
Dark Souls actually had a pretty decent oki game for most of its lifespan, only invalidated relatively recently by parry chaining.
Chainstab beat their roll away but lost to regular getup and parry/fast attacks
Kick beat their attacks/parry but let them roll away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsp6k4830a0
The problem is that parry chain beats everything but unlock and point your back away from them while still invulnerable so the rps is fucked up too far in the chainer's favor
>>135855297
literally kill yourself
>>135855297
Both
>>135855297
Suck my cock while i play DaS
>>135854770
>If you walked into a room of fg players and claimed you were good because you win consistently with 50ms of delay and have never played an offline match, they'd all laugh at you. Even the cannonfodder sf nigs that don't really know how to play fg would laugh at you. Hell, even the weeaboos that buttonmash in uniel would laugh at you.
Not really. Not after you would kick their arses, because a good online player would be a good offline player easily.
>>135855297
Why not both?
>>135855007
>>135855193
I started watching that Aegon of Astora guy when somebody here recommended it some months ago and was liking some of his videos. So I went to watch one of his streams and he was talking about how much he likes safe spaces and think they're important and how bad it is to act rationally when emotions are just as important and that shit.
I would like to say it didn't affect my views on him but man, was I disappointed.
>>135855335
Yous should be fine for medium. Maybe get a better GPU? There are cheaper alternatives that would boost you quite a bit.
>>135855358
I kind of want to play it on pc because SSD.
>>135855262
I have a feeling that offline souls pvp would just show how shallow it actually is, and how so much of the depth and oppourtunities for skill expression are really just exploiting game-state discrepancies, unpredictable timing variations and position desyncs caused by netcode and delay.
>>135855293
souls isn't a fighting game, but it did take influences at the most basic of levels. some mechanics are slightly similar, others are far off from anything like a fighting game.
a fighting game is very technical, souls is not. souls is a joke as a "competitive" game but that doesn't mean people won't have fun playing it. same way armored core is garbage but it has a loyal player base that try to push it to its boundaries.
so don't assume that i'm saying souls is a complicated series of games, i'm just saying that some situations are very similar to what you would see in a fighting game albeit a lot easier to deal with.
>can get fat lady set
>her hat doesnt come with her mask
FUCK! It's lucatiel's hat/ornstein's plume all over again.
>>135855460
At least they still get damaged by the attack.
Fuck back punch into oblivion, thankful that it's gone.
>>135855460
Thank you
>still got stabbed in the ass
kek
>>135855460
>>135855007
>>135855434
>because a good online player would be a good offline player easily.
Netcode warriors actually believe this.
>>135855460
So it doesn't even beat i-frames? That should be even weaker than DaS2 backstabs then.
>>135855394
do NOT bully
>>135855409
impossible i might bite and i need to concentrate on doing either
>>135855417
ill distract you
>>135855605
You can put an SSD into a PS4 as well.
>>135855605
Still Bloodborne > Demon's souls
>>135855721
Thats just lag
>>135855575
I am REALLY trying to hold off because I will probably need a new PSU as well, and I plan to do a new build late this year.
Plus I bought an awful PSU and case so my cable management or the stuff of nightmares
>>135855686
Lucatiel's hat includes the mask.
>>135855770
why are you being such ahomoon dsg?
So, has there been any reports of the Abyss Greatsword/Majestic Greatsword being back yet? I really wanna have my swordfu back for the final game.
>>135855379
parry chain doesn't do anything new, it loses to everything that a normal standing chain loses to. if it was an unbeatable tech then we'd have problems
>>135854654
Powerstance was awful
Barely any of the movesets were cool and even fewer were viable, and the ones that were viable were boring shit like dual rapiers
The way DaS3 does it seems to be better in every way but variety, which is meaningless when the options are all ass anyway.
There's still no excuse for not having real movesets on the left hand though
>>135855721
Fuck, that's neat
>>135855721
golden age is upon us
>>135855686
>no orstein plume
>ciaran's headgear comes with her dumb princess hair
>>135855736
>Smug anime face
Literally the top of the argument pyramid.
>>135855686
>>can get fat lady set
Source? Also I think that's her face, not a mask.
>>135844724
is there a source to that image? I need it for accademic purposes
>>135855721
this is lag, this never happened to me or safety in the network test.
>>135855818
No look again, he's backstepping as the warrior began his backstab animation, escaping it.
>>135855787
Might actually do that because my friend bought a ps3 for demon souls. Might get bb then swap with him.
>>135855818
If this was DaS1, the invader would have gotten hit backstab off, teleporting the host into it.
The fact that backstabs aren't instant makes this possible.
>>135856064
I think a Souls fighting game that works almost like Soul Calibur would be fantastic.
The character roster would consist of SoulsBorne NPCs.
Sophitia's/Cassandra's playstyle would be perfect for Oscar and Ostrava.
Nightmare's playstyle would be perfect for Gwyn.
Maybe Mitsurugi's playstyle could be given to Sir Alonne.
Or Astaroth's moveset could fit for Smough.
>>135855924
no homo just qt
>>135855007
the backstabbed is locked into place halfway through the backstabber's animation now
of note is that the simple thrust backstab locks you a lot faster than the two-part embed -> slam that weapons like maces, axes and ultra greatswords have, which will definitely factor in their viability much like DaS2's upside-the-head smack vs hilt strike backstabs
>>135855770
I'd totally host an open Skype call while you make lewd suckling noises and you could hear me respond in turn, butyou're a faggot so no
>>135856007
>sapinhosapeca
back to 55chan you degenerate
>>135856184
That's a weird snek
>>135855741
DaS2 backstabs didn't beat iframes on the attacking client, they just beat iframes on the defending client because of how backstabs were handled.
This is true of 3 as well. If you see your backstab whiff because the other guy is rolling through it on your client when your backstab performs its hitcheck, the BS will fail. If you see the other guy get hit by the backstab's hit-check, then it will ignore the iframes on their client and warp them into the grab as soon as they finish their rolling animation.
DaS3 has the same system. Only this time, the backstab's hit check is an invisible cone that triggers partway through the animation. The delay gives players a better chance to play around netcode and online delay, but you're still unavoidably backstabbed if the attacking client confirms a successful hit check, and you can't iframe that confirmation on the defending client.
>>135855898
That is the one case where i wanted just the hat (fortunately they added later).
>>135856007
It's like fromsoft doesnt understand fashion.
>>135856103
Vaati's "early-game" confirmed, it's the "Evangelist" set. And it looks like a mask.
>>135856184
Fuggin cute
>>135855946
>Powerstance was awful
The idea was good. The bad movesets and left hand damage nerf were what made it bad.
>Barely any of the movesets were cool and even fewer were viable, and the ones that were viable were boring shit like dual rapiers
>The way DaS3 does it seems to be better in every way but variety, which is meaningless when the options are all ass anyway.
Take the powerstance mechanic, replace the movesets with the dual weapon ones in DaS3, and everything would be better.
>>135856184
Stop reminding me of XCOM guys
>when the same guy keeps complimenting your skills and inviting you to his fight clubs
i'm really looking forward to dark souls 3 especially in the pvp aspect. i see a lot of potential, a lot more than i ever did with dark souls 2. playing the network test, it had a lot of little quirks that put me off but seemingly most of them have been repaired. it's looking positive and i can't wait to get my hands on it. i haven't been this hype for something souls related for a long long time.
>>135856728
>i haven't been this hype for something souls related for a long long time.
You weren't hyped for Bloodborne? What do you think of the game?
>>135856465
But that's work. How are they supposed to rush the game out in the timeframe established by Bamco publisher pressure if they have to do work?
>>135856628
>when all the FC boys send you friend requests
>>135856728
you will cry like a bitch about fast healing again
>>135856728
Where is your stupid fucking bird.
>replying to tripfags
>>135856628
>when you completely shut down fight clubs just by showing up and everyone hates you
>>135856465
>Take the powerstance mechanic, replace the movesets with the dual weapon ones in DaS3
Then you just have the same system but now it requires a weapon in each hand instead of one.
As much as I would like every combination to have an interesting and unique moveset, it just isn't viable.
Sure, you can't use a demon fist and a caestus together, but it would just be the same moveset as one or the other anyway.
>>135855925
This kind of looks like it.
>>135856628
Can I get the source of that doujin?
>>135856823
nah i wasn't excited for bloodborne because the network test was extremely offputting mechanically (movement, dashing, attack speed, general mashiness of it all)
i must say i think bloodborne is the best thing miyazaki has produced PVE wise. I feel the lore is incredible, the bosses are a lot of fun and the world was really interesting to explore. I also feel like it's the perfect length, if it was longer it might outstay it's welcome and rub off on me the wrong way. oh and kudos on releasing a fantastic DLC.
downsides? chalices, world of warcraft style gem system and the multiplayer ever being released. I feel multiplayer was tacked on at the end to appease souls fans, it's evident it has no development time and there's absolutely nothing going for it to make it appealing (covenants, goals, rewards)
>>135855925
It's called the Wolf Knight's Greatsword now, because Memezaki is dialing back the subtlety from 2.
>>135857113
>when you play like a passive shit and never attack first, hanging back and dragging fights into boring tedium while backpedalling and spinning so that all the UGS users trying to mess around in the fightclub have to chase your robflynn dexshitter ass around for 5 minutes every fight like it's some neon-aura'd arena match
>>135855925
>>135857231
ya abyss watchers appear to be artorias fanboys, I would assume we get the greatsword from their soul
>>135846291
god I hope so.
>tfw finally landing parries
>>135857607
which game
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4b7rx7/ive_spent_12_hours_with_the_game_and_im_making/
>Some game journalist trying to advertise his own channel on leddit
>Has a review copy
"Can you answer with a yes or no? Do you love the bosses in the game so far?"
"I'd have to say both yes and no. Will go into this when I can."
What did he mean by this? Do you think the bosses will be disappointing? Maybe he said that because they're too easy?
>>135846029
>>135857513
Why does everyone just stand there and take it? Do they not hear the obvious draw sound?
Why do they get hit twice in a row instead of at least panic rolling?
Is the bowblade only good against literal vacant shitters?
>>135857807
>What did he mean by this?
who the fuck cares about what a leddit attention whore thinks
>>135857807
He's a journalist, he probably means that they are bad because they're hard and he died more than twice without the game giving him an option to reduce difficulty to easymode or a checkpoint right outside so he could easily retry with no penalty.
Was no eng sub for japanese das3 confirmed already?
I pirated jap das for the ps3 and after installing dlc patch it's got eng subs just fine
>>135855210
Save your money and be financially responsible.
>>135857807
Too easy, and most of them are Big Dudes In Armor.
>people bitch about Souls game difficulty being too easy when difficulty was never the core focus of the series
>people bitch about Big Dude In Armor bosses when the series has always revolved around knights and kings, monsters have been more secondary to the plot than the heroes and antiheroes performing great deeds or falling from grace in the setting
>>135857870
>Why does everyone just stand there and take it?
on first webm he was sniped from such a height he did not see it coming
in second he was bowing
bow really shines as an ambush or sniper weapon
>>135857419
>DaS3 will be just that because they removed attack cancelling
thanks miyazaki
>>135858050
>Big Dudes In Armo
I never understood this, i love fighting human enemies, especially big guys.
Monsters are fun and all but i prefer the Big Dudes In Armor.
>>135858118
>panicroll spamming instead of timing the roll for iframes
So does the bow work when the other person is prepared for you at all?
>>135858050
That guy who is playing the DLC for the first time here.
This fucking place is seriously making my eyes hurt.
I cant wait to do whatever I have to do to make the snow stop
It does stop right? It has to, I found those frozen chests and shit
>>135858118
is the dog his pet?
>>135858286
Yes it stops.
>>135858050
>>135858230
Humanoid enemies are always the best bosses in the games anyway. Yes, even in Bloodborne, the best boss in the game came in the DLC and is an intentional throwback to Souls-style big sword man style bosses. Wacky beasts and aliens are fun and all but they just don't give you that certain satisfaction humanoid Souls bosses or Ludwig's 2nd form give you.
>>135858286
Just wait until you reach the outskirts.
Fun imminent.
new souls player here... what setup should i use if i want to be a tank? high def with large high att weapons
>>135857231
>someone saved my shitty edit
t-thanks
>>135858247
It has a very fast trick r1 that catches a lot of people and generally works well on all ranges if you can use trick attacks well.
I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>135858286
Did youget killed by an invisible boss? You have to get past that to make the snow stop.
>>135858427
I saw a bridge near the beginning but I wanted to keep going. I had this sinking feeling if i tried to cross I'd get blown away or something.
>>135858482
>Lots of stamina
>Shield with 100% block
>High poise
>>135858482
>tank
kek. get rid of any nothion that you can "Tank" more than a few attacks without dying. Get a greatshield and upgrade it, and wear high poise armor, that's the closest you'll come to being a tank, and bosses will still kill you if you let them hit you. Souls games aren't MMOs
>>135858037
Im putting half of it into my CD for my retirement fund. Is that good?
>>135858409
That's why they should make more monster enemies and learn how to make them as good as knights.
>Wacky beasts and aliens are fun and all but they just don't give you that certain satisfaction humanoid Souls bosses or Ludwig's 2nd form give you
Speak for yourself.
>>135858482
Which game? In DaS1 you can just get yourself a decent shield because half of them have 100% block and DaS1 gives you more stamina than you can burn.
>>135858628
Not gonna spoil it for you, but in the moment the word outskirts pops up on your screen, prepare to enjoy yourself.
>>135858614
Fuck
>Dark spirit AndersBreivik invades Sodapoppin
>Proceeds to grief the shit out of him
>Forces him to go offline
Which one of you fuckers was this?
>>135858409
monster hunterfags will never stop complaining about humanoid bosses until souls games are just monster hunter clones that they can play between the yearly monster hunt rehash is released.
Literally the cowadooty kids of action games.
>>135857231
What genre would they be? I'm feeling a certain degree of Screamo.
>>135858670
Yeah but it sounded like those people that go: Hey I have 50 dollar in my bank accounts, lets go buy a new game!
And then they cry that they have to eat ramen for a week.
>>135858650
>he hasn't gotten past the Lordvessel
You can wear full Havel and R1 spam your way through the entire latter portion of DaS1, then chug one of your 20 flasks without interruption if your health dips too low.
>>135858864
Nigger, that's very clearly a metal album.
>>135858482
Souls games don't really have a "tank" playstyle. You can put on the heaviest armor possible and try to faceroll things, but that can actually make the game harder due to limited mobility.
Your main choices for your build is which offensive stats you want to raise, Str, Dex, Int, or Faith. Str is the obvious choice if you like heavier weapons.
>>135858795
Literally who?
Also
>greif
What did he even do? There's hardly any griefing an invader can pull off in 2 without using CE
>>135858856
Never played Monhun once in my life, but big knights in armor as the most boring and generic bosses in the series.
It's nice to fight them once in a while, but I prefer monsters 90% of the times.
>>135858974
Infinite corrosive urn bullet spam.
>>135858864
I'm feeling a certain degree of fag from your post.
>>135858795
>watching streamers
some people simply lack self respect
>>135858526
She was lookin' kind of dumb with her left arm and her right arm in the shape of an 'L' to make contact...
WELL
>>135858795
>Sodapoppin
I thought he was a WoW player.
>>135858787
There's a way to make it manageable to fight, but you have to explore the snowy area a bit to find it. You'll know it when you get it.
>>135858783
>Oh joy.
I did just get the shit scared out of me by the most obvious trap ever
>See ballista with item in front of it
>Run up and grab the item
>Immediately the ballista rears back
Holy fuck
>>135858864
Epic black metal.
>>135858974
A popular twitch streamer
It was definitely CE, he kept throwing some acid shit at him to the point it actually froze his characters, there were like 10 bottles a second.
It was in DS2, I only played DS1 and Bloodborne so I don't really know what it was.
>>135858940
Bullshit, even in full havels you still take considerable damage if you get careless and no amount of estus is going to save you if three enemies start attacking you at once. there is no such thing as "tanking" in Dark Souls, there's simply "not dying in a few hits"
A real tank wouldn't need to constantly chug estus because they wouldn't take much damage at all.
>>135858940
That's not being a tank.
Alright well I am going to head back into coldplace
Wish me luck
>>135858795
>Which one of you bullies did this to my internet hero!?!?
>>135858795
>watching Sodapoppin
Spotted the /v/ kid.
>>135859376
>watching any streamer at all
>>135858230
For you.
>Dark Souls 2
>have 125 poise
>using ultra greatsword
>get poked by a single rapier R1 out of the Fume GS "super armor" block attack
the fuck is the point of even pretending that anything other than dex r1 spam is relevant
poise does literal nothing in this dunkass game
>>135859627
>parry
>got invaded in the peak
>well, I'm in the good mood, so why not?
>wait for him on the platform just after second bonfire, he noticed me from above and tried to shot me from the bow(lol)
>4 minutes latter I got tired waiting for him and just closed game
>You got a new message "Fucking rage qui...."
Really? Why would I risk my souls and go for him. He fucking invaded me so it's him who should try to kill me with everything
>>135859758
>parrying in the middle of an attack animation
You're not very smart
Do you guys have any interesting videos about the games? I don't like those "top pvp fights le epik", but I would love to see some griefing or interesting shit.
>>135859627
Was it a roll attack? They always break poise.
>>135858856
As a MonHun fag myself, I play Souls for the big knights who feel like you're dueling them, not the poorly designed monsters.
MonHun makes them feel less like "monsters" and more like animals anyway, hence it feels like a hunt. They'll back off instead of letting you chop away at their ankles, they'll flee and try to recover stamina, their motions and sounds are obviously inspired by real animals and thus feel organic and intuitive.
In Souls, monstrous bosses just sprint up to you and use one of three or four generic attacks or combos, and often don't seem to mind you standing under them and chopping at their back legs. I get that the game is about hollows and zombies and everyone being only barely there mentally, but does that have to extend to dragons and the like?
In any case, I love MH, I love Souls. I love the former for its well-designed monster fights, I love the latter for being able to fight against fallen heroes and kings and the like in an honorable duel. I think both series should play to their strengths.
>>135859765
shut up BR
>>135859765
He's right.
Why not just progress through the level instead?
>>135859860
>pretending that anything other than dex r1 spam is relevant
parry was my answer to that.
>>135859627
git gud dasbub
>>135859627
Just make a build that focuses on any form of spells (sorceries, miracles, pyromancies, hexes) and start drinking up those katana-slinging shitter tears.
It's really the only way to play DaSII, when everyone can escape stunlock in 2 hits and roll iframes are variable depending on level.
>>135859627
Poise damage is really fucky, even going by the exhaustively tested spreadsheet of poise damage, there are some things that simply don't like up. I can't tell you the number of times that a 1H rapier R1 has broken 150 poise (or 300 hyperarmor poise) when it's supposed to only do sub-50 poise damage in pvp.
There's some element to poise that we don't understand, but that limits its functionality to some absurd extreme, even beyond what we already know about it.
>>135859758
>parrying a rapier
lol
that's not my complaint tho
i'm mad that a fully armored-as-fuck str character using a literal SUPER ARMOR-coded attack with a giant ass 2hand weapon can be staggered, at 100+ poise, by a SINGLE rapier 'light heavy' attack
literal garbage game design that has by itself forced the 'pvp meta' of ds2 to become nothing but rapier buffing
If Miyazaki does make Sci-fi Souls, how many classic Souls gameplay elements could he preserve without feeling wrong in the setting? There would have to be an even bigger focus on firearms, like it or not.
Ideally it'd kind of be like in some sort of Space Age of Exploration, the interstellar equivalent of the early 18th Century. Firearms would be too dangerous to use in all but the most extreme circumstances, as one stray bullet could pierce the hull of your vessel and kill everyone. Thus, melee weapons would still rule in average combat.
Imagine that after Dark Souls III, they find a way to make the First Flame last a really, really long time. So long that humans are able to advance to the space age, and only then does the Flame begin to fade and the Curse comes back.
Could it possibly work?
Who thinks we'll be seeing whatever B Team have been working on at E3? DS2 came out in March 2014, the first Project Beast screenshots were a few months later, then Bloodborne was announced at E3. Wouldn't be surprised to see the same timing the other way around this year.
>>135859265
Define being a "tank" then. This is not WoW, you don't have a party of 39 other assholes who expect you to keep the boss's attention so they can plink fireballs at it.
In single player focused games, being a "tank" generally just implies reduced or nonexistent focus on damage avoidance by simply powering through enemy attacks and clobbering them yourself. DaS1 enables this because the post-Lordvessel areas and bosses are badly designed and don't actually punish you for poisetanking through everything.
>>135859965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0_Iu2uwWoE
>>135860127
I thought that parrying a rapier was near impossible as well. Until I actually started trying and now they are easy cake.
>>135860149
>Firearms would be too dangerous to use in all but the most extreme circumstances
dumb as shit
just make frequency-based forcefields protecting against firearms but letting melee attacks through like in Dune
>>135860103
this and the fact clothing only helps casters on a realistic level
>casting faster
>prolonging buff durations
>in comparison to getting heavier and looking silly
>>135859986
>In Souls, monstrous bosses just sprint up to you and use one of three or four generic attacks or combos
You just described every single human boss in the series.
>that feel when just pre-ordered
2 days 19 hours 45 minutes 30 seconds remain
>>135860149
>>135860034
>why won't you fall into my trap?
>>135858856
>monster hunterfags will never stop complaining about humanoid bosses
So anyone who complains about humanoid bosses are all monster hunter players? Nice logic.
>>135860149
I just want a post-apocalyptic Armored Core style setting where you cruise across a wasteland in your mecha in search for mechanical towers and fallout shelters, then go down on foot inside them to scavenge for supplies for your mecha.
On foot, you'd fight ancient malfunctioning security systems, and in the mecha you'd fight other junkers or autonomous war machines left behind from the apocalypse.
>>135860164
Le B-Team does DaS3, m8.
>>135860127
>SUPER ARMOR-coded attack with a giant ass 2hand weapon can be staggered, at 100+ poise, by a SINGLE rapier 'light heavy' attack
No they can't stop lying for the sake of it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-iCrOdAGp3uQ9I0VgQYU2Ug2d4w2PbQZhBnobLakaMs/pubhtml
If you actually care about the numbers
120 poise is enough to tank a 2hander R1 from a rapier
You either were not hit by an R1 or it was the second R1 you tanked after being hit once before.
And you as sure as shit were not in hyperarmor frames
>>135859986
>retarded and incredibly biased opinion
>facebook filename
>ifunny watermark
This post is art.
>>135859965
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCuaQX7IfRI
>>135860391
IT'S NOT FAIR BROS
THE PC MASTER RACE SINGLE HANDEDLY SAVED THIS SERIES AND WE HAVE TO WAIT 3 WEEKS
>>135860672
>mfw browsing steam library for something to play in the meantime
I'm not gonna make it guys
>>135860504
>open world
Cancer
>>135857236
>right click
>reverse image search
>>135860640
See this is what I mean. I frequently encounter cases where this chart is straight up wrong.
Half the the times I fight a rapier, the first hit they land on me, which is a 1HR1, will break ~150 poise. The other half, it doesn't. Sometimes, it interrupts me out of hyperarmor.
There's more to poise than the numbers on this chart because it's simply not mathematically consistent with actual gameplay.
>>135848414
Anor londo niggnogg
>>135859627
Nigga, did you use the FUGS L2 with 0 stamina, because you didn't get your poise broken, you got your guard broken because it follows shield stamina mechanics during the blocking part of the attack.
>>135859965
https://youtu.be/WqacyIaq27o
https://youtu.be/gOcTmQ1RJAY
https://youtu.be/gd4JnDKGj_Y
https://youtu.be/CrZ0aIxXXg0
https://youtu.be/_safWzmYfT8
>>135860665
Love these kinds of vids. I got one of those for BB.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hwLfgz2QsA
>>135860672
3 weeks is nothing desu. And yes I know it is a platform wars faggot pretending to be a mad pcfag.
There was 0 fucking chance on this earth I was beating that thing without seeing it.
Shit was hard probably mostly due to my slow weapon
>>135860887
On mobile, big guy.
>>135860784
Have you gotten 100% in DaS and Das 2 SOTFS?
>>135860905
>the first hit they land on me, which is a 1HR1, will break ~150 poise. The other half, it doesn't. Sometimes, it interrupts me out of hyperarmor.
I refuse to accept this as any form of fact, it could have been an R2 or a running attack
>>135859965
Who the fuck took this off youtube?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2y07jk
>>135861090
Yeah they are pretty cool. And wow I haven't seen that one. Neat as hell.
>>135861090
>beast roar can deflect projectiles
whoah
>>135860870
Eh, it doesn't have to be full open world, it can just be nonlinear like DaS1.
>>135860672
>THE PC MASTER RACE SINGLE HANDEDLY SAVED THIS SERIES
>>135861186
Not him but
>not having the clover app
>>135861332
>literally a copy of the old Dragon Roar
>does the same thing
whoahhh !!!??!?
>>135856628
>When you go to the fight club and get bodied
#justscrubthings
>>135860640
>DS2 known to have buggy unpredictable poise
>"BY THE NUMBERS"
idiot
>>135860391
This the Japanese release or is it coming out for everyone on the 24th?
>>135859460
>not watching lobos and his runs
Kys
>>135861243
You can refuse to accept it all you like. Actually bother using a high-poise build with a hyperarmor weapon and you'll see all sorts of discrepancies. Even 1H daggers will 1st-hit poisebreak with their R1s on occasion.
>>135861090
>tfw no joke weapon whos entire moveset replicates attacks of other weapons at random by conjuring them out of pure enerjy
>>135861598
>>135861720
>DS2 known to have buggy unpredictable poise
""""""Known""""" by people who consider anything not working like DS1 to be buggy and saying how poise doesn't worked after getting staggered while in havels by a rolling attack.
Until I see tangible proof that one is just another one of those retards that never read up on the mechanic.
>Artorias enters the abyss to fight Manus
>Gets his ass slapped, barely manages to protect Sif, and gets corrupted by humanity in the process, turning into a monster
>Before this, he and his two buddies didn't even want to attack Kalameet out of fear, the last of the ancient dragons, and one so powerful even the gods didn't feel like it was worth the risk to attack him
>Chosen undead comes in
>Proceeds to slap Artorias's powered up shit
>Kills Kalameet, the strongest (or one of the) of the ancient dragons
>Then proceeds to beat Manus so hard he gets splintered into a bunch of tiny shards of super humanity
>By the time of Dark Souls, people praise Artorias as the greatest of Gwyn's knights, and he who staved off the abyss
>By the time of Dark Souls 3, he has his own covenant
>The CU isn't even remembered as anything but a simple lord of cinder
So, does the CU stand for KEK?
>>135861396
You can reverse image search with clover?
>>135861375For the love of god give me the name of the artist, I remember reading some of his works, but can't find any of them now
>>135861646
Jap release
>>135860665
>>135861090
>A YouTuber makes videos of cool things you can do with gestures and weapons to bypass attack hitboxes in Dark Souls 2
>Gets 2,500 views
>That very same YouTuber makes a video of cool things you can do with gestures and weapons to bypass attack hitboxes in Bloodborne
>Gets 75,000 views
Do people really hate Dark Souls 2 that much?
>>135862021
Nishi Iori.
>>135861859
CU is a thankless job
How to make cute brown girl in DaS1
>>135861859
Ornstein and CU got the short end of the stick in DaS lore.
>>135862064
Nah it's just known that DS2 has shit hitboxes and you can't ever dodge hits without ADP fucking BTEAM
>>135862186play Dragon's Dogma
>>135861375
Many of his older dark souls 2 videos have a lot of views.
>>135861720
Proof or didn't happen.
People have been blatantly lying about DaS2's mechanics for 2 years now.
>>135861990
Yes my man you click the image then click the menu on the top right and reverse search
>>135862295
fuck meant for >>135862064
Should i upgrade my claymore into the abyss greatsword?
>>135862064
one of my fave DaS2 vids like that is the one where the dude beats two pursuers bare handed with maximum adp. He even parries both at the same time. fuck it I will just post it. DaS2 is my least favorite Souls game, but it has it's shining moments,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfo_sbhI5oY
>>135862220
But he wasn't even dodging. He was using gestures and movesets from specific weapons to bypass hitboxes in cool ways. Nothing he did required investments in AGI/ADP.
>>135862220
The hitboxes are fine, the lingering roll hurtbox is what sucks.
>>135862064
>Hating=not interested
Hating a game is saving webms of a game you don't like for upcoming internet wars.
>>135858628
>>135858650
>>135858764
>>135858968
yeah i understand i can't be a "tank" in the true sense of the word, but i want to use a massive cool looking weapon, but be able to survive more hits than normal due to it taking so long to attack
maybe i'm just dreaming too big? should i start with a quicker build so i can just hope to survive?
>>135862568
Anon I know I was making a joke on the fact that the vast majority of people have absolutely no idea how anything in DS2 works and just bitch about it.
Every now and then someone will actually say how ADP gives iframes on bonfist attacks or some shit along those lines
>>135862529
If it's your main, no. The moveset is pretty lame, the only thing going for it is the anime flip R2 attack. And it looks like it would be shit in PVE and PVP.
>>135862529
>Should I downgrade my claymore?
No.
>>135862737
>>135862746
okay then. should i just go +15 with it or go Raw?
>>135862605
>>135862685
It's common for people to move on to "tanky" builds in DaS1 lategame. Stick to medium armor early on so you can poisetank the occasional glancing blow without getting interrupted, and use a strong shield.
>>135862818
I think if you're wanting to NG+, it's probably better to just +15 it. I forget what gives better scaling.
>>135854093
Is the Priest Hat the closest to a sombrero in the game?
>>135862818
Raw is the only upgrade path in DaS1 that terminates at 10 total upgrades (+5 normal, +5 Raw), so +15 is much, much better.
>>135842557
I want to see more miracle action in DS3.
>>135863063
I'll be pretty fucking disappointed if Faith is as nerfed as it was in SotFS.
Calling it now, those Fat Ladies with the book are the new Channelers, and their book is going to be a trident teir rare as fuck drop. No one will find it on their first playthrough unless they jack luck and use coins on her.
>>135862875
Yes, we already established last tread that the Giants of DaS2 are the Lost Izalith equivalent and were rushed, simply aligning their collision box with their hitbox. That's like saying all of DaS1 area design/enemy placement is shit because Lost Izalith exists.
The hitboxes outside of the giant memories - a small minority of the game - are just fine, much like the area design and enemy placement in DaS1 outside of Lost Izalith.
>>135862549
>Woah, woah, wwwwwooooaaaahhhhh
kek 10/10 vid
>>135863178
Sorcery and Miracles were both broken as fuck in unpatched SotFS (beat entire game with lightning spear spam, or OHKO bosses with Soul Geyser), so enjoy the OP while it lasts this time.
>>135863187
>yfw the book drops
>instead of being a weapon that can be used to hit people with and have STR scaling but also buff magic damage, it'll just be a new catalyst and you won't be able to attack with it and it'll just be some lame "spell damage increased but mp is halved" insanity catalyst shit.
>"I'm going to not use big ass giant greatswords and ultra greatswords this run, I'm totally going to use regular longswords, curved swords, curved greatswords, katanas, and halberds!"
>Proceed to find a greatsword or ultra greatsword
>never use anything else
I just love huge fucking damage so much
>>135863198
>it's just the giants bro
>>135863361
nigger spells were nerfed to fuck long before sotfs came out
>>135862685
everyone on their first playthrough go for big str weapons anyways so just go for it
dex is for people who actually care about being efficient in pvp
>>135863469
>The hitboxes are fine, the lingering roll hurtbox is what sucks.
You rolled. That's not Alonne's hitbox, that's your character's hurtbox.
But please, continue trying to prove some point and displaying your illiteracy.
>>135863469
That's not a problem with the hitbox retard, it's a problem with the lingering hurtbox.
>>135863469
Using simpletons ring so we can't see you getting clipped(it's not even you, just a webm you saved from somewhere)
Simpleton
>>135863178
I finally got my miracles to be as strong as i want it to be in DS2 by gaining everything at my disposal, but now my SM is so high that i can't fucking jolly co-op anywhere.
>>135863361
>so enjoy the OP while it lasts this time.
Early meta is always the most cuhrazee and insane.
The Chef memes might have died, but sure, as the sun will rise, a new excellent choice™ will emerge.
>>135850164
Please be str.
Where do you get it?
>>135863198
Oops, wrong webm.
SL 838 now.
Am I in the endangered list in terms of PvP?I got bored so I 99 all stats.
>>135860149
I want BLAME! Souls.
>>135862470
I feel dumb lol. Thanks mah niglet, u da reel mvp
>>135863469
you got clipped by the sword and were repositioned into the grab attack. it looks dumb but it's not a bad hitbox
>>135863673
Nigga people are always in the DLCs
>>135863731
>yfw it's a dex axe
Fuck everything
>>135863713
Not referring to you, but I can't believe there are people unironically defending the pre-nerf Excellent Choice. Sure, it's hilarious to kill other players in one hit, but "it has bad durability!" is not a balanced handicap for such a ridiculous weapon when you only need to land one hit anyway.
>>135863781
And Fumes stab has always been broken, the hitbox is on the wrong hand.
Now is there anything new you would like to post other than the 20 odd bugs we have know about for the past year or are you just going to keep pretending that those 20 make up for the entire game?
>>135863838
Ain't no thing my fellow
>>135863469
This is caused by low agility.
The hurtbox lingers for a moment while you're rolling before the roll is complete. Once you've arrived at the new destination, even before the animation ends, the hurtbox moves. However, at low agility, there will be a couple of frames between the hurtbox moving and when you're still vulnerable, so shit like this happens. Try fatrolling through an Ornstein grab in DaS and the same thing happens.
>>135863781
hahahahahha
FROM drones will defending anything these days
>>135863883
Make it crushi-, er, I mean Heavy*, and have a jolly time?
Some of the DeS style upgrade paths are back. Crushing was an upgrade path that would increase the Str scaling and decrease the Dex scaling of a weapon.
>>135863469
Still not as broken as the grab hitboxes on Gaping Dragon and Iron Golem.
>>135863469
You were hit while invisible during your roll.
The roll animation is uninterruptable in 2. If you're hit by a grab attack, it will wait until your roll finishes to warp you into the grab animation.
You were hit while rolling, around the middle part of your roll, but before your character reappears from the ring.
Ignore the idiots talking about lingering hurtboxes. They don't know what they're talking about.
>>135864048
>And Fumes stab has always been broken
You would say that in any case, because the entire game is broken.
>odd bugs
It happens to me constantly, especially with fume knight and lost sinner.
Would you say Sorcerer is the best class for a pure pyro DS2 run?
>>135863361
>Sorcery and Miracles were both broken as fuck in unpatched SotFS (beat entire game with lightning spear spam, or OHKO bosses with Soul Geyser)
One of the first things From did after releasing DS2 was cut Soul Geyser's damage in half, I'm pretty sure the same patch nerfed sunlight spear. IIRC offensive miracles got shit on when the Iron King DLC dropped.
All of that was way before SotFS.
>>135863891
Well, the only way to oneshot combo someone with it was to catch them with a rolling attack and then immideatly follow it up with a 2hr2 pancake.
Otherwise ordinary swings dealt around 700 damage, and pancakes dealt somewhere around 1300.
But yeah, it was pretty damn stupid.
>>135863731
It drops from the little shitlings in undead settlement, still very early in the game.
It was like E/E scaling and the moveset of the hand axe. It's a weapon made for elemental infusions.
>>135864159
And?
It's not justifiable.
Besides, he's using the AGI ring, he obviously has high agility.
>>135864159
Yep. This is also why you have to rely exclusively on iframes to roll anything in PvP.
>>135863781
This is because they mapped his entire hitbox to the sword and the collision boxes of each hand. It's a lazy job, but you're still hit by the hand.
Why the fuck does Cleric start out with almost as much luck as Thief in DaS 3? Thief makes sense, Thieves use poison/bleeding daggers and throwing knives and they want to loot everything that isn't nailed down. Luck is a perfect stat to put points into for the Thief playstyle, but it offers nothing to the Cleric playstyle. Clerics don't use bleeding or poison, and miracles aren't obtained through RNG drops. I want to be a co-op healslut like I was in DaS 1 but it seems like it would be better to just choose Knight and level up Faith on its own. Fucking FromSoft.
>>135864242
Just like how you will claim that every shockwave from a giant in DS1 is a rare bug or how every grab being pants on head retarded is a rare bug?
Again nigga unless your posting new material nobody is going to care, they will just call you a retard at best.
>>135864252
Yes, it starts you with the most attunement (which you want lots of early) and the least str/dex.
>>135864475
>Just like how you will claim that every shockwave from a giant in DS1 is a rare bug or how every grab being pants on head retarded is a rare bug?
No, grab attacks have always been bad, just like the entirety of Dark Souls 2 has always been broken.
You're the only one who's desperately trying to defend broken shit, not me.
>>135842557
So /dsg/, what's the one weapon that when you see an invader/invadee using, you automatically respect them for using it. Even if it's a bad weapon.
For me, its' the pickaxe.
>>135864405
You're right, it's not justifiable, but B team isn't to blame for it. Mapping i-frames to a stat was retarded, but again, the same stupid shit happens for fat rolling in DaS, which is probably why we're going back to the DeS system of two different roll speeds instead of 3.
>>135864206
What you're referring to are justrare glitches.
>>135864405
>Besides, he's using the AGI ring, he obviously has high agility.
Not how that works at all
You can have 10 DEX put on the DEX ring, you will now have 15 DEX, does that mean you have high DEX?
Fuck no, same applies for AGL, you can have 7 ADP put on the ring and have 12, this does not translate into "high agility" in any sense of the word.
>>135863469
>not rolling around the right side
>>135861197
I do in 1 but all I have left in 2 is the "collect all of the (x) spells" achievements and those are boring as shit
Where can i get psn jap bux and how many dollars is the yen i need to buy it
>>135864470
Clerics are jews that extort money from simple-minded folk.
Don't be sad, I heard someone who watched VootyDooty's recent video saying that luck does matter, even if it's a couple of points.
>>135864616
None, if I see someone using a bad weapon I instantly assume it's a new/bad player.
>still defending dark souls 2
>still hating on dark souls 2
>still talking about hitboxes
>>135864470
Why would you lock yourself into a single kind of class playstyle in a Soulsborne game? The best thing about these games is you can branch out to whatever you want later. They're literally just starting titles and gear.
>>135864607
Right so the giants clipping through everything O&S constant AoE fucker thats all perfectly fine right?
Again unless you post new material nobody will care because no matter how much you want it to 20 examples aint gonna prove that a game with 300+ enemy encounters is "always broken"
Fuck off to /v/ if you want to bait people who haven't touched the games and don't know the first thing about them
>>135864470
>Clerics don't use bleeding
>>135864757
Play asia jp psn digital money coupons
You need 8000 Yen I think for the game
>>135864616
Stake Diver
>>135864757
I think it was like 82 buck-a-roonies, and I dunno. Google it.
>>135864896
agreed, this is why deprived is best class
>>135864896
>why does someone play the game differently than I do!
some people like to find something they like and stick with it
>>135864678
It's okay when Mitsubishi does it :^)
>>135865097
Nah deprived has always been shit since other classes are flat out better at everything since he isn't the "base" class, just a jack of all trades
>>135865097
Deprived is the best for first playthroughs, hands down.
First plays are always unoptimised trash builds. I always level them to like some ridiculous soul level for NG+ and get like 25 in every stat and 40 str and dex and vig.
>>135865167
Fuck you, i loved the outlander
>>135850894
Same.
>>135864470
Faith boosted Bleeding in DaS2, too.
>>135865224
yeah except there's fucking respeccing and no SM bullshit
you literally only need one character for all builds unless you really want to minmax hard
>>135864435
God, you're an idiot.
Let's stop this 'lingering hurtbox' myth right here.
>>135865319
>First plays are always unoptimised trash builds
That's why you can respec.
I don't want to waste my first character.
>Not picking Pyromancy so you can get 2 flames
>Not being able to trade one to the crows for X rare thingy
Nice memeing
>>135865152
Gotta have that dank RP, huh?
>>135865449
>there's fucking respeccing
In DeS if you are willing to put up with the develing faggotry
Not in DaS 1 or BB.
>>135865528
>2 flames
Wait, thinking about this....if the weapon art is great combustion, could that mean you could ACTUALLY KIND OF DUAL CAST PYRO?
YOu have one flame casting the fire spells, and the other hand popping off great combustions inbetween real quick
>>135865614
We're talking about 3.
DeS doesn't even have a deprived equivalent.
>>135865449
Nigga its exactly BECAUSE of SL120 bullshit that deprived is ass, you have too much of any given stat to be useful, a pure melee build has no use for those points slapped into attunement/int/faith/luck.
That is the issue with deprived even if another class starts out at a higher SL its still better because you don't have 15 levels wasted in stats you don't care about
>>135865614
I'm talking about das3 clown
>>135865075
Fuck im seriously considering it. Its 62k yen which is 62 dollars. Cant read ching chon tho
>>135865713
The art is combustion, not great combustion.
It's also really, really shitty. It does like 1/3 of the damage of a fireball.
>>135865713
>yfw demon's had 2kat
>yfw 2flame stunlock combustions is upon us
wew
what exactly makes dark souls 2 so bad?
I just beat 1 and have yet to play it. Should I buy the original or SotFS?
>>135863858
yea i suppose its not that bad
>>135865830
>caring about SL120 shit your first playthrough
>>135865459
There are webms in this thread that show lingering hurtboxes and broken hitboxes.
Drop the "git gud, you got hit" bullshit.
>>135865528
Have fun kissing an ascended pyro flame goodbye to get your hands on apendant.
>>135865828
barbarian doesn't count?
>>135866035
I value my first character more than any other, of course I don't want to waste it.
>>135865965
it's not bad it's just not as charming as 1 was. get scholar if you don't have vanilla
>>135865828
>>135865845
Same shit still applies, deprived is ass since you start with assloads of luck, int, faith and attunement.
>>135865459
>Bickering over an abstraction
Isn't that saying the same fucking thing, but in different words? The hitbox lingers/position differs because of latency?This is bait, isn't it?
>>135865965
Dark Souls 2 isn't bad, but it takes a quantity over quality approach to game design.
If you like souls games in general, you'll be disappointed but you'll still like it and have fun.
SotFS is better.
What do you all think of the pillars of the Soulsborne community?
>>135866132
Nope, he has high STR and low INT.
A deprived equivalent needs equal low stats.
in dark souls 2 which is the most overpowered possible build? that thing that will cheese bosses to a comical level and allow me to collect hatemail like christmas cards
i suspect it has to do with sorcery, casting speed sets and rapiers, but do enlighten me
>>135866246
>>135866310
alright thanks
>>135866291
>he wont use utility pyromancies
dropped
Daily Reminder that deprived has completely different naked undies than the other classes, there may even be more differences, not many people have stripped down with all classes.
Unique undies are a thing. Starting classes, at least in depriveds case now will have an actual unique thing.
>>135866335
id fug the chick
>>135866291
Which means it makes a good respec class because it has a good base in all stats.
You're argument supports their point, dumbass.
>>135866335
Who is the girl?!
>>135866335
>Brandon
>lawful good
Lawful evil fits most of them tbqhf
>>135866294
Nah that image is just 100% wrong.
Hitboxes do linger in DS2 and you can see them in single player videos too.
>>135866335
Literally, who? to all of them.
>>135866294
No, he's just forgetting that these are two separate phenomenons and not mutually exclusive. The lingering hurtbox happens offline, too, and further compounds the netcode issue he mentions.
But rather than think for two seconds he prefers to shitpost and assume only one thing is happening there, or disregarding the fact that people were mostly talking about PvE.
>>135866335
A GermanSpy is such a man! We should all strive to be as manly and gentlemanly as him.
Hey guys, where is the cheapest place to buy these jpn psn codes? And how much exactly is needed for dark souls 3
>>135866335
i dont know who they are but im glad im none of them
>keeping up with any sort of celebrity
it disgusts me to no end
>>135865965
If you intend to play it, buy sofs. It makes various improvements to the base game and includes the dlc bundled with it.
People hate DaS2 for various reasons. It's different, therefore bad. It greatly increases the recovery and stamina costs on virtually all actions, which makes doing anything riskier and makes the game feel slower. They tied the speed that you chug estus and the # of iframes on your roll to a stat (seriously what the fuck?). The nerfed poise into the ground. They mocapped player character animations instead of using the method that DaS1 did, resulting in animations looking less dynamic. The world fits together as a series of linear world connections instead of an interconnected world. Very few areas have shortcuts or fold back into themselves and most progress in a largely linear fashion from entrance to boss. The transitions between areas often doesn't make sense and relies on impossible space and leaps in logic rather than fitting together naturally. The lighting is sub-par and many areas are obviously unfinished and full of ugly repeating textures. The lore is almost nonexistent.
In short, the world and level design are a big step down from DaS1 and it makes some changes to gameplay that people disliked for being too different from the predecessor.
>>135866712
>wears all black
>and a fedora
>isn't afraid to tip that fedora
>walks around with a cane
I don't know whether to respect the guy for being a walking parody or to be sad for him.
>>135866294
>>135866648
>anything that disagrees with your baseless conjecture is baiting and shitposting
>>135866335
Soulbrandt is the fucking worst.
I think most people would consider people like Vaati, ENB and Lobos more pillars of the community than those fucks anyways.
>>135866335
I only know three of these guys and they all disgust me.
I never watched Germanspy's videos, but I keep finding his comments everywhere and they're always incredibly cringeworthy, especially when he talks to girls.
Look at his comment on this video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf8xweoDaFc
He's literally a parody of himself. A stereotypical fedora guy.
>>135866728
See
>>135864984
You're currently on a computer, please use it.
>>135866524
No it makes it a bad respec class because you can only respec the points YOU have spent.
If you wanted a magic build then it would probably have too much STR/DEX/VIT/Luck, if you want a pure melee build it would have too much luck/int/faith/attunement
Are you really too dumb to see the issue here?
Deprived would be good if every other class was deprived + stats spent, but its not, other starting classes start out with LESS points in certain attributes which means that deprived is instantly bad for specialized builds.
>>135866484
Pretty damn sure that was just confirmed as some guy not taking everything off, depriveds loincloth is armor now instead of the base
>>135866770
Lying on the internet. Why?
>>135865543
I don't get it, are you saying it's bad to RP in an RPG?
>>135866810
The most disgusting thing is that he wears his fedora indoors.
If you want to look like le reddit gentleman at least act like one.
>>135866953
I would have unprotected sex with this woman
>>135867013
what do you mean? actually i dont want to know
fuck off tripfag
>>135866990
>knowing what you want beforehand
are you just going to make a new character for every cool weapon/spell you can't use?
>>135866930
The only one of them i can stand is oroboro because he is the only one who is not a walking saltmine. That being said, i BARELY can stand him.
>>135866810
PURE
SEX
>>135866905
>literally hasn't played the game or looked at webms
Try sprinting past the Pursuer's attacks and then rolling past them with minimum ADP, offline. You'll notice right away that it's not his hitboxes that are fucked up.
Does anyone happen to know if the female character model in Dark Souls 3 is better than Dark Souls 2's monstrosity?
With even a slight bit of armor you couldn't even tell what gender you were. I mean... those shoulders...
>>135866989
>spending 70 additional dollars on a moon rune version of a game that you will never play again in 3 weeks
>>135866436
>hat thing that will cheese bosses to a comical level and allow me to collect hatemail like christmas cards
Estoc Havelshield turtle can do both, kinda, but Craftsman Hammer/Mace are better for PvE, in my opinion.
>>135866335
Who is the True Neutral guy and the Chaotic Evil guy?
>>135867268
>being a jelly poorfag
every time
>>135867035
Maybe I don't want rocket propulsion in my RPG.
>>135867236At least he's wearing his fedora with formal clothing that fits well, rather than trechcoat/t-shirt/jeans. He looks eccentric but not /r/atheism.
>>135867352
I chuckled.
>>135867196
I want to fuck her while GermanSpy watches and cries.
>>135866930
Apparently people hate ENB because he was a part of and supported a project everyone hates.
No wonder he wants to completely space himself from DaS3. Probably so he won't get anymore YOU KNEW ABOUT THIS DIDN'T YOU, ENB? YOU KNEW THIS SUCKED.
>>135866779
>The transitions between areas often doesn't make sense and relies on impossible space and leaps in logic rather than fitting together naturally.
This happens in literally every Souls game.
>>135867268
I bought Dark Souls II twice
>>135867283
b-but what about pevepee shouldnt i go for magic stuff
>>135867267
All FromSoft games use the same skeleton model for male and female. Bloodborne had the same issue and Dark Souls 3 will as well.
>>135865965
Now that DaS3 is just around the corner there's little reason to play DaS2. If you're going to try it anyway, you should be able to tell immediately why it's bad. And trust me, it doesn't get any better later on. My mistake was that, I just hoped it would get better but it never did.
>>135867268
>Making a smarmy post to the wrong person
>>135867214
No I don't give a flying fuck about SLwhatever meta and will be leveling whatever.
I'm just saying there is a very good reason why no competitive build ever has deprived as its starting class, its a core flaw of the starting class design that has never been addressed.
>>135867447
Yep. Daily reminder.
>>135867234
Oro is one of the worst. Even if you can get past his fucking autist scream-speaking he's a cancerous pvp shitter who actively promotes exploits in his videos
>>135867409
>wearing hats indoors
He's a fucking joke.
Also he's wearing jeans.
>>135867352
>ERP
>Erotic Rocket Propulsion
>E-Rocket Propulsion
>Erection Propulsion
someone please make a r34 related to this
>>135867315
True neutral is rbFrosty
I have no clue who Chaotic Evil is. SLB, maybe?
>>135867548
I'm not talking about planned builds, I'm talking about deprived as a first character
so if you suddenly decide midway through your playthrough that you wanna try out some sick ass miracle when you're playing a dex quality build or something you wont be as gimped when you switch
>>135867234
He's pretty salty. I've streamsniped him a couple times and he always whines when he gets outplayed.
>>135866930
I like Lobos, he seems like a genuinely cool dude. ENB is a shill though and Vaati is basically a content thief who's wrong 95% of the time when forced to present his own theories.
>>135866990
The point of respec is that you don't know what you'll want later, so having low points in ALL stats equally means that you'll never be stuck with to much of the wrong stat if you randomly decide to go from str build to int build.
Deprived objectively starts with the least amount unchangeable stat points, thus making it the best objective class for respeccing.
>>135867468
Strike damage is by far the sicknastiest shit, hands down.
Also if you go full mage, DLCs will tear you a new asshole with ridiculous elemental resistances.
So, if you want to destroy PvP, go estocturtle (although that might require a certain amount of practice).
If you want to destroy PvE, go strike damage. Maces, Hammers, Greathammers, they're all good. Greathammer pancake attacks will also make most of the non-giant mobs completely helpless.
>>135867750
>you wont be as gimped when you switch
You wouldn't be gimped anyway, all you have to do is remove your dex points and put them in faith.
>>135867801
Ok, well they all are walking saltmines then.
>>135867967
but you might have 16 base dex points or whatever instead of 10
kind of matters when the level of spell or weapon you're switching to is fairly high, could mean the difference in needing to invest hundreds of thousands of souls or not because you need to be level 90 instead of 84
>>135867967
Except you can't remove the base stats. Thus forcing you to have 16 uneeded dex when you could have just 10 instead.
>>135867750
>>135867829
The issue here is that both of you seem to be forgetting that you can only respec the points that you spent, so if you decided to respect from a deprived melee into a deprived sorcerer you would still be fucked because you would still have too many points in your other stats since you can't lower them below depirveds "base" you would still be just as gimped as a knight who decided to respec.
Which is to say not at all because you are basically losing out on 20 levels at the very most in either case.
Your base class doesn't really matter if its just PvE SLwhatever so its a good idea to get a class that is good at one thing and just go from there
Your base class will matter shitloads for PvP SLwhatever builds because of unused and useless points that you can't respec out of.
>>135867848
TY
what is estocturtle thou
>>135868305
Like it matters, deprived is always the worst class in any case unless you want to use mundane.
>>135867507
It seemed the shoulders/neck size ratio was way crazier in DaS2.
try jumping
>>135868330
deprived has at most 4 wasted points per stat, compared to up to 6 for other classes
>>135868231
>but you might have 16 base dex points or whatever instead of 10
Which is 6 points of dex spent at the exchange of like 4 base luck, that shit balances out, thats the issue classes have LOWER stats than deprived so it doesn't actually hurt nearly as much as you would think.
Why nobody has decided to fix this shit and just have actual SL1 as the base is beyond me, but its the way these games are made
>>135868546
But deprived starts on soul level 1 right?
So its optimal for every build.
>>135868330
What part of: "Deprived objectively starts with the least amount unchangeable stat points, thus making it the best objective class for respeccing."
Are you just retarded?
>>135868447
The build you use when you want to destroy the arena.
>>135868546
Actually, not up to 6
up to 10
it's not a big difference but deprived is technically better if you want to try out a bunch of builds on your first playthrough
>>135868627
Nigga I have been on about this for like 6 posts now, no its not.
Deprived is not SL1 deprived is SL~10 actually since there are classes with 4 on some given stats.
A pure melee build never wants to start as deprived because you have around 25 levels straight up wasted in INT/faith/luck/attunement/whatever
>>135868795
we're not talking about preplanned builds
everyone agrees that if you want to minmax deprived is never the choice
>>135868738
>the build you use when you want people to find playing against you so unfun that they just disconnect
fixed for ya
>>135866335
Isn't Oroboro still in college? Like under 25 or something?
Why is he balding as if he was in his late 30s?
>>135867559
>advocating random honor rules of the day
Opinion discarded. It's FROM's job to fix broken shit, not the player's to avoid anything quote unquote OP and dishonoraburu.
How do you want toe FUGS to work in DaS3?
Would you prefer if the current L2 was just copypasted as a weaponart?
Would you like if the L2 became the regular R2 and it got a completely different weapon art?
If so, would you prefer it had Raime's darkfire buff as a weapon art, a copypasted weapon art from another ultra weapon (eg. the stomp->golfswing), a completely unique weapon art attack, or a stance with a unique WA R1 and R2 (possible more guard-counter related mechanics)?
What do you want to see out of its moveset that's different from the UGS we've already seen? How would you want its special guardattacks to be implemented or changed?
>>135868447
It's when you hide behind a greatshield and poke with your estoc, darling. When played correctly, it's almost impossible to lose.
If you want other overpowered shit for pvp, I suggest straighswords (the longsword is particularly good), rapiers (very spammable, low stamina consumption, low recovery frames) or katanas (decent speed and good counterdamage).
That said, those are all very popular weapon classes, and are quite predictable, so without much experience you might end up being outplayed, a lot, even by people using outright unconventional stuff.
>>135868715
>>135868940
No I'm saying its a shit class for pvp respeccing since it has shit stat spread
It's a shit class for PvE respeccing because you are trading a terrible early game for what amounts to 15 SL's gained upon respeccing for lategame builds.
You respec from a knight to a sorcerer you have wasted some VIT and DEX/STR, you respec from a deprived into a sorcerer you have wasted luck vit STR and DEX and all that shit combined balances out to a very minor gain for the deprived that does not make up for its dogshit early game.
If you want a dedicated PvP build other classes are better
If you want to do whatever then the minor minmaxing wont even matter so you might as well take a proper starting class
Deprived is for the challenge and nothing else.
>>135869007
Some people go bald young, it's sad but true.
>>135869054
Blockframes on an attack instead of hyperarmor would make it pretty obvious Battle Art territory.
I'm more curious what the Wolf Knight Greatsword and Moonlight Greatsword Battle Arts will be - single attacks, or stances?
>>135868715
He's right though. Deprived starts with 10 points in every stat that cannot go less. That means points in luck plus int, fai, etc are wasted on a melee character. You're better off choosing a class with less points in unnecessary stats.
>>135847648
>through enemies
hopefully it's more like some absolutely rediculous forward facing flame drill AOE
like something voldo would do in soul calibur
>>135869142
>terrible early game
please, nigger
the earlygame is already easy, I would rather take an armorless earlygame than having to wait for hours to try out a new build because I need ten gorillion souls for some 40/40 hex bullshit
>>135869137
>darling
well ty for the tips
>>135869054
>FUGS
I prefer this shit weapon to not appear in DS3.
>>135869248
No one is talking about pre-planned min-maxed builds, this is for maximum respec variety on a first playthrough.
Fuck. American schools sure have gone downhill with teaching reading comprehension.
>>135869010
Not him, but actively promoting and relying on exploits is pretty shitty.
>>135869054
Make L2 the regular R2.
Make weapon art a sized-down version of Reimu's 2hu balls AOE.
>>135869054
fugs badly needs an r1 horizontal swing to actually be relevant as a pve/pvp weapon
there's so many times where i've been straight up unable to deny a backstab fisher or struggled to clear a group of monsters due to having my only good side-swing linked to a low stagger dash attack (which deals like 20% weapon damage for some reason)
i realize i could just pocket a longsword to fix that issue, but i came here to fucking murder everything with a big ass sword
>>135868738
>Doesn't even attempt to guard break the turtle
Let me guess, you can shield poke faster than they can guard break?
>>135869327
Nigga again you don't seem to grasp that at most you would be saving 10-15 SLs at a high level build.
Deprived has wasted stats no matter what build to go into, so its not that much more efficient at respecing than the other classes.
>>135869369
>christmas hat
>march
You can't even meme right.
>>135869228
MLGS weapon art will 100% just be the attack that launches the projectile.
Artorias GS will probably just have the twirly spin slam thing from DS2 if I had to guess, or something similar
>>135869373
>hating fun
It's a cool weapon with a unique gimmick, literally no reason for it to not appear in 3.
>>135869519
10-15 SL is a huge amount of souls at high levels, that's my point
>>135869369
Oh, bandit axe/butchers knife are also good.
And spears, they're decent.
DaS2 meta is much less rigid than DaS1 meta, in my opinion, so you shouldn't be worried much.
>>135868795
>Deprived is not SL1
It literally is though, no matter what retarded argument you come up with.
>>135869248
As opposed to classes that have 16 or more in certain stats and can't go lower.
It's like you idiots can't do basic math.
The class that has the least amount of unchangeable stat points/levels is going to have the most ability to be respecced into whatever the player wants
>>135869502
>shield poke faster than they can guard break
if they have low poise, yes
if they have high poise, i just use r2-r2 when they do guard break attempt
generally i use the second as it's completely safe and reliable way to tear down at least a third of their hp
>>135867732
Frosty is a dishonest piece of cheating shit.
When he did the animation comparisons he purposefully avoided animation cancelling (to shorten recovery) in DaS2, because ''few people use it anyway'', yet he used super fast rolling (low equip load) in DaS.
>>135869594
>10-15 SL is a huge amount of souls at high levels
But its not a huge difference for PvE, its only matter for PvP minmaxing.
>>135869536
Would be nice if MLGS art worked like the tricked form in Bloodborne.
>>135869405
Nah, it's still bad because instead of ~2 wasted stats, you'll have 3-4 depending on what you're trying out. Deprived is for challenge runs, my man.
>>135869536
>Now we will have to use the shitty fap bar to be able to throw beams
Mitsubishi was a mistake
>>135869228
My bet is that the wolf knight gs will have a unique 2H moveset (like what's been implied for the mirrah gs) including some practical unique R2. Its weapon art will probably be the longsword's stance but with a unique, artorias-like stance R1 and R2.
As for the MLGS, I'm betting it'll fire projectiles with its regular R2s and then have a weapon art like the HMS L2 from bloodborne. If we're really lucky, it'll get some kind of stance art with multiple weapon art attacks.
in DAS2, what weapon(s) have the fastest guard break animation?
i noticed that some of my heavier weapons have much slower break anim than something lighter or bare handed
are there 'guard break tiers'? like weaker or stronger versions? or do they all stagger just the same and for as long as the other?
>>135869765
minmaxing was never the intent
there's 200 fucking weapons in the game (and an unknown number of spells), I want to try them all out on a character as fast as I can so I can commit to a minmax build as soon as I can
>>135869672
6 wasted in one stat is better than 15 wasted in 4 stats combined anon, can you not do basic math?
>>135869847
eh, it's still better than having to use durability
>>135868795
>Deprived is not SL1
Deprived is SL1 in every Dark Souls game but DS1, where it's 6.
My plan for DS3 is to do deprived with maxing luck asap, is there any reason this is a wrong plan?
>>135869525
Its always christmas
>>135868627
>But deprived starts on soul level 1 right?
As long as all starting classes have equal stats at the same level (which they do in DaS1), then the level of the starting class is irrelevant.
>So its optimal for every build.
No, the only thing that matters for optimal builds is having the lowest combined value in all stats that you don't care about.
Deprived has an even spread between all stats, so it's almost never going to be optimal for anything.
>>135869925
The smaller, the faster. Barefists and daggers are the fastest, to the point where a lot of pvp-ers will actually swap off their mainhand weapon to guardbreak in pvp.
>>135869981
>want to try them all out on a character as fast
Great so then your starting class doesn't matter since weapons rarely have more than SL60 combined as their requirements so almost any class can respc into them fairly easily.
Deprived is for you if you think you are good enough at the game to do it naked from the start, its not optimal no matter what you are doing even if your plan is to respec a bunch.
>>135857381
is that an actual glass estus flask or a cardboard prop? it looks copy pasted in there
>>135870041
It will still drain durability
How do I get PS+ for the JP version?
I think it says there's a trial, but if I try to select it it says to put in credit details which won't work since I'm not in japan.
What do?
>>135870131
Not if there is non shit respeccing.
>>135870224
>>135870224
>>135870224
Migrate whenever.
>>135870224
>>135870224
>>135870224
>>135870225
Yeah weapons are easy enough to try out, but some spells have an absolutely ridiculous stat requirement
>>135870227
its a cheap prop that can't actually hold liquid
a bunch of folks on reddit were raving about that set until that was figured out
>>135870272
you don't. you buy the game on your jp account and once its downloaded you play it on your normal account, with its own ps+.
>>135870392
Ohhhhhhh I see
Neat.
>>135870356
In which case you are equally as fucked no matter what starting class you took that wasn't sorcerer
>>135870227
Actual glass flask, but it's a solid figurine thing so you can't open it up to fill it/drink out of it. Basically a paperweight.
>>135870324
Is respeccing all at once?
>>135860504
that's what star citizen is allegedly trying to be at some point, I believe they plan on adding some form of mecha aside from ships
you know, if you wanna wait like 5 more years before the game is playable
>>135869992
No, because you'll never waste any LEVELS with deprived, while you're wasting levels with every other class if you choose to respec. Always wasting 10-15 points is better than not being able to respec without wasting 20-25 points depending on what class you started as.
It's not about min-maxing, it's about the ability to adapt/change to anything without a hassle.
>>135870780
Again you would save 10 SLs at most which doesn't even matter
Deprived a shit because its not the "base" class and thats the end of it
>>135870131
If you're looking to find as much as possible and try it all out in order to see what you want to use on a dedicated build then I think it's hard to go wrong with the knight. Good base gear will let you level magic stats without much consequence early in the game and you'd have the physical stats for most starting weapons.
>>135871034
>concedes that I'm right
>"Deprived is shit though and that ends it"
>>135851976
>dat man-face on the princess
I'd leave her even if there was no dragon.
Yo /dsg/ merged with /bbg/ right? Anyways, is the DLC in Bloodborne worth getting?
>>135844791
I hope there's more cool looking straight swords like that one.
>>135874915
i see a lot of praise for it, but i don't own a ps4.
How the fuck do you farm sunlight medals at 6milliom sm?
>>135877693
In the new thread
Also DLC bosses, Burn Ivory King has the most coop but hosts often send phantoms home before the boss is summoned because they are farming Loyce Souls
Really though all the DLC bosses are good choices because thats where the high SM characters all tend to end up, might want to slap on the agape ring just in case or you will end up in NG++ sooner or later
>>135864470
There's been a comment about "spells" using luck on one of the press early game feeds, I would guess miracles and luck go well hand in hand, so maybe that's why.
>>135870198
All classes have 99 points spread around all stats @10 level, so yes, they all have the same points BUT if respec returns your points for each soul level grown, deprived gets more points returned as it starts at level 1 while the second lower class is thief at level 5, and that also doesn't mean it's better, depends on what you are rerolling to.