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Phalanx Edition

>FAQs & General Info (Updated March 19th, 2016)
http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN

>/twg/ steam groups (MP battles on weekend, co-op anytime)
http://steamcommunity.com/group/totalwargeneral
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/twgmp

>Attila
TWC Mods -- http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2105-Total-War-Attila-Modifications
Slavic Master Race Culture DLC -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ICZXBfFwU

>Warhammer
Vampire Counts Reveal -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj605sogy3I
Dwarfen Campaign Walkthrough -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPszpVH0Yyc
Orcs vs. Bretonnians Let's Play -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_AD4gHVrWU


Demised >>135639316
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>>135743650
is that Raphia?
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Dominate rome > principate/republican rome
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nth for Alaric
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>>135744008
>try out bactria
>400 food by the end
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Ahh... Rome
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>No faction has a woman for a political marriage

I swear to God.
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Annibal my son
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>>135743650

Since the Greenskins are getting a third legendary lord, who are the candidates for the other factions?
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>>135744334
come, shit, share my fire
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nth for T H E L A D Y
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>>135744370
roll
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>>135744657
time to make black history real
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>>135744481
spare my arse
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>>135745358
Roll
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7fwcElPNhw

What's the largest Total War battle you've ever fought or seen fought /twg/?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5ihy9aY0UM&index=20&list=PL7l8yJHLU_BHQCVDULG4nz_NmT3usWmC-
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>>135745603
https://youtu.be/26hd25OX3_k
This 4v4
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>>135745603
That I've ever fought was an 8k vs 8k showdown in Attila. Close second was like a 13k man battle in Shogun 2. Both were fun as fuck.

The shogun fight was spanned across two hills and a forest which was really difficult. I had to pause scum a few time a just to manage my flanks properly.
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>>135745952
>pause scum

As someone who doesn't handle well under pressure I do this a lot more than I like to admit but I have no choice
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>>135745603
If only the cinematography wasn't utter shit, this video could've been amazing.
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>>135746521
yeah way too many closeups but this one was well done
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>>135746329
I don't do it often but when I do I kinda just justify it by saying that realistically I'd have sub commanders that could manage their sections individually and strategy would've been discussed before the battle.
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>>135746941
>he needs to justify using standard game mechanics
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>>135747169
Really. The battles are so fast-paced that not at least using slow-mo from time to time is something I can't comprehend.
Granted, I'm shit, but still.
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>>135744469
Volkmar the Grim for the Empire would make sense to have the Emperor, the Supreme Patriarch and the Grand Theogonist.
For Vampire Counts maybe the Red Duke or Abhorash in addition to Blood Knights FLC
Dunno about the Dwarfs though.
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>>135745603
it lasted for over an hour and crashed 3 times
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The only time I pause is at the start of a battle after deployment. more so in shogun 2 in a siege where they just appear out of nowhere. less so in attila where they're already visible.

But I don't like pausing or slowing down the game.

Big battles of 2 stacks vs 2 stacks can be an absolute charnal house though.
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>>135747559

How did you manage to kill 2 thousand of your own men.
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>>135747752
Cannons have a mind of their own.
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>>135747752
Artillery into melee, probably
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>>135747559
>darthmeme
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>>135747559
Do you have any screenshots from the battle?
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>>135747559
This is probably it for screenshots that i took.

but to be fair the battles for the city over 2 years must have left over 200 000 dead Indians littered around the surrounding fields and there wasn't a single intact segment of wall,
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>>135747752
one word my friend: artillery. Some of it was intentional like when I sent one unit into a melee vs 3 units to blob them all up and then rained cannonballs on the whole lot, but most of it was unintentional, you can see the AI lost a lot to friendly fire too

>>135747965
well, the imperial splendor, or whatever it was called is still unfinished, so its not like I had much choice
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>>135748159
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>>135748256
>not sucking it up and playing vanilla
empire is shit no matter what
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If I kill enough of the enemies faction leaders in Attila can I dissolve their country? I know it used to work in M2 (if I remember right)
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>>135748632

Eh?
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>>135745603

empire lategame factions tend to bunch up their stacks on borders to serve as a sort of border guard against other powerful nations.
>allied as prussia with russia
>focus on eliminating western factions, stop with paris, northern italy and vienna
>turn to the east because I need moscow
>turn camera over to poland
>russians have nine or ten stacks amounting to around 16k men
>bring an army of 3k against one of them
>the others reinforce
>cue an hour of reinforcing and endless waves of russians
>win with 300 men remaining on a hill and a colorful carpet woven in front of me
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>>135748780
f I keep killing their faction leaders over and over again in battle. Does it do anything in Attila?
I'm pretty sure I dissolved the Turkish state in M2 crusades this way before. But I could be wrong.
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>>135748068
no, unfortunately I dont had to do an hdd wipe and lost all my old screens, but they didnt look that great anyway, the reinforcements were coming from all over the place and after the first stacks were done, there were many small scale fights all over the place and nothing properly organised so there was no carpet to show
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>>135748632
i dont think so
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>>135748980
Yeah, in M2 a faction could end of wiped out if the entire male-line of the royal family dies out.
Don't think it works in Attila.
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Is it worth trying to manage public order in Attila (i.e. invest in buildings etc), or should I just ignore it and slap down the rebellions as they come?

It feels like the malus is too high to mitigate
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>>135748632
>>135748780
>>135748980
killing all nobles from a faction would dissolve that faction into rebels in m2, it does not happen in Attila (would make defeating all those one province factions too easy)
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>>135744370

rollin pls no krauts
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>>135749121

Are you sure? Because I remember getting all my family members killed by inquisitors
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>>135749205
Yes, it's worthwhile. After the occupation malus wears off and the province has enough food, a couple of public order buildings is all you really need. You can build up a large public order buffer by garrisoning the settlement for a few turns.
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>tfw when you love firing in ranks and gunpowder artillery
>Napoleons europe just feels kinda shallow
>FotS's artillery all feels the same except for wooden cannons and gattling guns
>Empire has perfect artillery and the world to play with but bad mechanics and buginess.

The best part about warhammer total war when it releases will be the variety in the artillery between dwarves and empire. I want to see what a gunline can do. even if i have to do without the different shell types (tfw no canister shot)
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>>135749862
wait, I just remembered, there are rules for canister shot in the rulebook.

Canister shot confirmed.
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>>135749862
>tfw ETW could have been the greatest TW ever made
I still need to get rid of Imperial Destroyer from my ETW and get Darthmod back. I forget the reasons why I disliked ID so much
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well the graphics in the orc battle look like fucking shogun 2 so I guess I'll be able to run it a-ok unless they fuck up the optimization again somehow
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>>135750327
I was thinking of trying imperial splendor.

Imperial splendor and darth mod seem to be the two most talked about for empire. dunno about others though.
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>>135747539
It'll probably be Ironbrow or Burloksonn

Either bonuses to not!Magic or bonuses to Cannons
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>>135750327
>darthmeme
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>>135750996

as someone who tried both IS and darthmod, I'd choose darthmod
the battles lagged too much whenever I zoomed in and my PC isn't shit either, and you fight using mostly militias for line infantry for the first 50 turns
the campaign map is better than darthmod's though
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>>135751053
Bugman bonuses to Economy and moral.
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How many people can you get in a multiplayer campaign?
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>>135751571
just two i think?
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How does Darthmod improve/fix Empire as opposed to simply changing numbers and adding units?
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>>135751834

it doesn't.

Play napoopan with LME instead.
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fug, even with a massive cavalry advantage basic levies really struggle against armored professional soldiers

also is it just me or is the AI in AoC better than in the grand campaign, so far the AI has been very reluctant to charge the cavalry general into my infantry in AoC, while it does this all the time in grand campaign
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>>135745358
Rolling
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Anybody have the Byzantine version?

Unrelated, I am doing a Garamatian campaign, and I can never get my economy in order. Any tips?
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Don't forget to play VC at launch guys!
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>>135743650
>http://pastebin.com/gZ1T9VCN
Someone needs to update it,using N to zoom also works on Shogun 2 and Fall of the Samurai
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>Hun stacks with 5 heavy onagers
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>>135754267
I swear, the "anti-shills" do more shilling than actual shills could ever do.
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>>135744628
Assuming they'll choose a Damsel like Morgiana Le Fay as the secondary LL for Brets is there a chance we'll get the Green Knight too?
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>>135754221
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>>135754990
quiet you.
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>>135751970
>play LME
>start as Duchy of Warsaw because why the fuck not
>during first 3 turns, kill Blucher, Kutuzov and Bagration with just my starting stack because AI is as dogshit as in vanilla
>uninstall
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>>135754990
>hurr anti-shills is bad such as shills
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>>135755086
Thanks, senpai
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>>135755362

And you can global conquest medieval 2 in 12 turns. It was always shit anon.
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>>135752761
Do you not use artillery often in AoC? I think what causes cavalry charges into your infantry line is the AI attempting to get the artillery. It's extremely prioritized.
If it's far enough behind your line they'll flank logically, but if it's close they may charge.
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>>135749812

what about the Instability malus, though? How do I reduce that?
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>>135755662
It decreases by 1 point every turn.

>>135755590
how the fuck
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>>135755653

I literally have one unit of artillery in all my Shogun 2 armies, don't care if it slows down on the campaign map, The AI will always shit its pants and be the one to attack even when I am attacking.
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>>135755662
Time heals all wounds.

It decreases by one every turn. When taking whole regions, don't sack each province
Letting a place rebel can be strategic, since every turn that the rebellion is active, you gain 20 in public order.
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>You will never restore the Roman Empire to its former glory.
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>>135755830

Legend did in in 14 turns I think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vObLGPSJQU&list=PLY8cZUL4pfEDOm-zQQM0dsLIRCOj8jvP_
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>>135755653
>first battle against high-tier Hun stack
>"well, they are charging their cav head-on against my heavy infantry, this should be easy"
>they actually destroy and rout my frontline
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>>135756013

>you will never make Rome great again
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So is public order always a bitch in Attila? Playing as the franks and I feel like no matter what I do I constantly have to shift armies around my empire so keep public order barely above rebellion.
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>>135756013
>Didn't even conquer all of europe for ebin grossromaniums

It was a shit empire t b h.
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>>135756035
literally just breaking gameplay mechanics and breaking diplo and shit, this is worse than speedrunner autism who use bugs to finish a game in like 10 min
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>>135756285
>implying there was anything of worth left there to conquer
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>>135756281
get a better governor, give him bonus happy traits and authority and lower taxes, you can also use a province thing with happiness if your faction got 1
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>>135756519
How do you get better governors? I'm still not good at managing my family tree. Do you need to build certain buildings or something?
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>>135756285
>His maybe a barbarian
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>>135756335

That's because medieval 2 was a buggy mess. Retardedness of AI, is, however, a constant of the series and by abusing the fuck out of it cancer of total war wins all of his legendary campaigns.

You can't claim that Napoleon has some especially retarded AI. On the contrary, many people consider Napoleon's battle AI (campaign AI is still as retarded as ever) to be one of the best in the series, even though that's not saying much.
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>>135756281
You have an entire building chain devoted to providing public order. Build something from it you retard.
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>>135756186
Heavy cav crushes anything but heavy spears/pikes, or heavy infantry in shield-wall.
Nomad units also have crazy stats.
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>>135756665
just let them level up and put points into public order skill
also use edicts
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>>135756281
Pro tips: buy priests, level up your governors in Authority, get +PO followers, set your taxes on High.
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>>135756665
look at candiates or family members with a good governoring skill as their first, bonus authroity, taxes, more money from buildings then put them in governor slot and they will auto level and every so many turns then give them more authority and bonus happiness talents and give them any items your generals find after battles and shit that helps with it.
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>>135756397
>implying those peoples living in northern Europe didn't migrate into the empire and establish the most successful kingdoms ever known and an era of unprecedented prosperity, scientific progress and art.
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>>135755830
>>135755986

ooh

thanks anons
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Just bought shogun 2.
Im no weeb and hate japs and want to smash them with Western tech.
What faction do I choose?
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>>135758098

Otomo in regular Shogun 2 and any imperial clan in Fall of the Samurai
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>>135758098
Correction, I bought fall of samurai
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>>135758253
Thanks senpai. They didn't make it too clear which was western and which was traditional.
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>>135758451
Well, both sides can be western or traditional. The Shogunate was not "traditions only".
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>>135758984
Oh okay. I thought it was West vs traditional japs
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>>135744008
Rolling for a Hellenic faction
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>Assassinate Attila

Wow didn't expect it to be that easy

>Next turn, noble turns up in my recruitment roster called 'Attala'

"N-no, I'm not Attila. I'm...Attala, yeah"
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>>135744008
Roll
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>>135758451
As Otomo you can literally build an army out of guns and portuguese tercios and slaughter nips by the thousands
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Can someone explain how the Zadruga works, exactly?
Taking pic related as example, the yellow circle is the town with a Zadruga. Do all provinces marked with a red X get an increased wealth production from the Zadruga? Furthermore, does the Zadruga also increase the wealth in its own province, and Zadrugas stack with themselves?
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>>135760098
Is he even assassinatable? It always shows 0% chance of killing him for me.
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>>135755653
nah, I dislike artillery because its too strong, but in this battle I actually did have an onager and the AI still did not charge its cav general in, I am shocked desu
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>>135760424

Well I did it. I'm amazed honestly, I expected him to be plot immortal.
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>>135757757
but they didnt, the vast majority of the "great" migrators are eastern tribes or germanics, not northern euros
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>>135759985
West vs traditional Japs would be Satsuma Rebellion.
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>>135760393
forgot pic
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>>135759985

technically the Imperials are the ones who want to "expel the barbarians," but the Imperial restoration also directly resulted in Japan's westernization, which caused some of the most prominent Imperial clans in FotS to rebel against the Emperor themselves not long afterwards

the series of events was complex
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>>135760681
and they achieved fuck all compared to the Franks , Anglo-Saxons and Lombards who founded the most powerful Kingdoms in Europe who were all northern Europeans.
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How do i meet women /twg/?
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>>135761994

Your only hope is things like craigslist, but it's usually women with kids looking for a daddy
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AI can't into flanking
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>>135762669
AI literally cannot into those "Better Maps".
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>>135759985

Imperials are anti-foreigner but their factions have a lot of traits that favour modernization. Shogunate is pro-foreigner but their factions traits favour traditionalism.
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>>135762669
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>>135762669

I noticed they flank alot in Attila tbqh

Even during sieges
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>>135762669
As much as I love that mod, the AI can't deal with the new maps.
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>>135763174
What mod is it?
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>Migrate to Rome through Greece as Ostrogoths.
>Have most of family die fighting off Romans
>Consolidate in Italia.

Where should I go to? Looking to bolster my armies and kick the Roman Seperatists out of Italia too.
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>>135763428
>Roma as your capital
>Instead of Ravenna, the true capital for the Ostrogoths
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>>135763412
Better Maps
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>>135763428

Wrong image, but that's what it was like at start
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>>135752761
AI in AoC can fuck your shit up senpai
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>>135763174

I think theres another mod in the workshop that adds small towns and buildings outside of the edge of the map instead of inside

So it doesnt effect the AI movements
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>>135760393
>>135760847
Yes to all your questions.
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>>135761003
I've learned to just never try to understand Asian politics
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>'''''holy'''''
>'''''''''''''''''''roman'''''''''''''''''''
>'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''empire'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
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>>135744370
Rollan
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>>135763525
Why settle for the consolation prize when you can have the real thing though?

>>135764151
They make a lot more sense when you take into account the fact that everyone over there hates each other, and often themselves, with a burning passion unrivaled outside of wales.
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>Be Franks
>Marry daughter of the King to the leader of the West Roman Separatists
>Rome was razed by the Huns
>Rebuild it
>This is how the Holy Roman Empire was formed in my canon
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>tfw you forget to conquer carthage
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>>135762669
>>135763026
Thats what you get for spamming yari cav
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>>135764391

Exactly, both cities were disappointingly wide open for attack, so I just went for Rome.
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So is there a way to manually change your capital city in Atilla yet
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>>135764391
It's always fun to listen to Asians hate on each other. I wish I had those /int/ screenshots of Koreans and Japs shitposting at each other.
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>>135764637
I played a game as Takeda once where I had a stack of 20 yari cav for a joke. People say cav is shit in S2 but those motherfuckers routed an entire army of yari samurai spam on the charge, shit was disgusting. Ashigaru in yari wall would've stopped it mind but it was still hilarious.
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>>135761994
Get a job where you have to talk to people. Lot of bored girls sat around all day wanting some attention and if you ive it to them you'll be pretty popular.
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>>135765096

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=474998322
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>>135766676
>all that shit just to change the fucking capital
Jesus
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>>135767473
At least changing HOVELS won't be an issue in Warhammer.
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are there any waifu mods for attila?
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>>135769664

Sadly no
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>>135769456
Memes aside, I do find the difference between mountainside and non-mountainside cities strange. It's obvious that CA are going for a heavily stylised approach where cities take up the same kind of real estate on the campaign map as they did in older titles but it doesn't contrast well with the Dwarf holds that can be lavishly detailed without affecting the playable area because they're inside mountains.
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>>135769927
It does kind of work however. I mean the dwarves are an ancient civilization on the decline they already made their holds are products of tens of thousands of years. while humans were barely barbarians not even 2000 years prior.
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>>135769927
I think, after looking at the campaign map, there's a lot of really big human cities, but the inner land where human cities are located is actually pretty small (relatively speaking), so putting a big city with a big AoD could really fuck that shit up. A mountain settlement is on a fucking mountain, which was already impassable terrain.
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>>135754990
sauce on this moving tapestry sample?
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>>135770773
But thinking ahead to Tomb Kings, Elves and Lizardmen, will their ancient cities also be compressed in the old style? It would be odd to have Dwarfs as the exclusive owners of swag-tastic campaign cities because they're built on impassable terrain.
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>>135769807
>You will never face-fuck advisor-chan while old man-kun narrates
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>>135771831
Why are you making this a meme
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>finish reading blood on the Reik

fuck me, thats grimdark.
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>>135769807

How about any that make the guys look more interesting than Helmet Man #5?
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>>135772130
It's not a meme, it's my honest feelings.
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>>135772229
Welcome to 1980s British metalhead fantasy, enjoy your stay.
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>>135771792
I'm just wondering how they will do skavenblight as that monstrosity of a city is about 10 times the size of a dwarf hold
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>>135764516
AAAAHHHH
REEEEEEEEEE
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>>135764516
NO ONE CAN CONQUER THE GREAT

HANNIBAL BAKA
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>>135772734
Honestly I think CA is going to have to add an entire underground layer to the map if they want Skaven to work properly. Not like their underground passage system at the moment, I mean a fully-featured subterranean layer that has cities built on it.

It's not really surprising that Skaven are being held back for the sequel when you consider just how wildly different from every other faction they are. Shit's gonna take a lot of work to do right.
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>tfw you just watched The Last Samurai and want to play Shogun 2 but it's midnight
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>>135773230

>Wake up next day
>Don't want to play anymore
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>>135773230
Start a traditional FotS campaign and see if you can win before sunrise.
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>>135773387
This, let the light of the burning sun guide you to victory or defeat
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>>135773387
>finishing a campaign in anything less than 20+ hours

How?
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>>135773647

Shogun campaigns are short
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>>135772670

nah, grimdark in a hopelessly soulcrushing way.

I wonder when GW lost the plot.
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>>135773195
Didn't hint at something like that with the dwarfs? I could be misremembering though.
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>>135773195
They'll work the same as Dwarfs with the underway stance and when you siege their cities it'll be underground. Possibly they'll make it so skaven never have to travel out of the underway so can't be ambushed on land until they surface to attack.
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Is anyone making a new LOTR mod for Attila or are they waiting for TWH where it might be easier with the dwarf caves to make Moria and whatnot?
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>>135774521
IIRC the underway isn't displayed on the map, is it? How would that work with 100% underground cities?
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Any good mods for Shogun 2?
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>>135774613
It'd be way easier with WH surely. It's already half there compared to Attila
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Thinking of starting a new shogun 2 legendary campaign, what clan is good for just camping an area and building economy?
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>>135772445

Why even live?
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>>135775080
Triangles
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>>135774652
unless they wanna fuck it up hard they won't add skaven til one of the map expansions where they add an Underway map. I feel like only Skaven, Dwarves, Goblins, and Undead will be able to go there normally
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>>135775080

Chosokabe desu
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>>135775396
For my waifu.
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>>135774652
The cities will be visible on the map but when you actually fight the siege you'll be underground. The underway isn't visible but a little tunnel pops up near your general and he moves to it then out the other side that you clicked to.
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>>135774674
Better Maps(3 parts)
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=99501976
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=123046263
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=427417469

VUS
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=105951952

Expanded Japan
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=150812711

Recruitable Generals
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=124774475

More Characters
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=639950946

Real Armies
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=215214032
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>>135774978
Yeah I agree, plus the unique animations for orcs and other races will be useful
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>>135775808
thanks
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>>135775424
>>135775567
So Hojo or Chokosabe?
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>>135775820
Warhammer Orc animations are useless for LotR Orcs. LotR's are basically humanoid, while WH's have almost comically exaggerated proportions.
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>>135744370
rolling
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>>135776624
Hojo because Chosokabe is lmao noob tier
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>>135743650

The men are wavering
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>>135776624
ODA
D
A
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>>135744370
roll
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>>135777095

>Winning battle handily
>General dies by accident
>Entire army instantly routes

I mean guys...we were winning
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>>135777095
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>>135773470

>Bring victory to the land of the rising sun while the sun rises
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>>135773230
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=160675934
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>>135744270
Do you guys really find it fun to do completely unplausible things like that? This one is remotely plausible, though.
Not trying to be rude, sorry if it sounds like that, serious question... That's why I hardly play any Greek state besides Sparta (and even then I barely conquer anything outside of Greece and Asia Minor) and Athens (I can be a bit more free with this one). I end up only playing barbarian factions to conquer germanic/western europe and harass Rome trying my best not to enter asia minor, Rome, Carthage, Persian states, the (historically) bigger sucessor kingdoms (not because of difficulty or lack thereof).
It kind of hampers my fun. I cannot deal with ugly borders or impossible overextensions. Too bad the game doesn't give you other options like Paradox games, or even Civ.
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post your campaigns

416AD and I'm thinking of trying to take the rest of Aquitania and Narbonesis before Attila pops up but I'm dealing with public order issues and need most of my troops garrisoned.

Should I just say fuck it and take it to the saxons? I kicked them out of Frisia in turn 2 and they hoarded around for a while before finding a new home near the Pyrenees mountains.
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>>135778785
Here's mine

I burned everything down and moved to Africa, converted to minor religions.

Once I build at least one shrine in a province I have zero public order worries and I can slowly steamroll my way back across the map and reclaim all my former lands.

Shit's comfy AF yo
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Is there a mod that makes Rome 2 not shit and maybe fixes the awful minimalist art bullshit?
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>>135779430
>he actually converted to minor religions

The mad man.
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>>135779430
>abandoning Roma

Shit campaign. What religion did you convert to though?
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>>135779703
All will flee before me and then integrate peacefully when I conquer them
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>>135779430

Can you take a screenshot of your religious buildings, and potential religious buildings?
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>135779682

Attila
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>>135780137
This is what you build

It costs 10k, you need to own a gemstone resource, it can only go in towns, and you get no religious edicts and can't recruit priests.

Still, it's great as WRE because of your immigration bonus, and you can deal with the squalor easily .
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what the fuck is this meme

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=644990746
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>>135780620
I remember when the wealth used to be +666% from immigration.
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>>135780620
How do you even get minor religions enough to convert?
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>>135780814
There are some regions in North Africa and in the far east with minor religion influence. You pack everything up and go to one of those regions to start converting.
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>>135780814
Caucasus and eastern steppes has enough local tradition for it
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>>135780796
Yeah, they nerfed it. It's still pretty op as it is now

>>135780814
I just burned everything down right away except for the region where it was high enough fore me to convert, at about turn 3.
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>>135779682
I liked the minimalist art.
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Alright twg how different is the ERE faction compared to WRE?
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Checked most of the Shogun 2 workshop(so many fucking upkeep reduction and income mods) and i think im ready to start a new campaign.

>>135745358
Rolling
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>>135744370
rollan
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>>135781608
Better cav, more money, generally easier depending on dickishness of Sassykids.
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>>135781608
You get to be the best empire as opposed to the inferior, degenerate West.
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>>135781608

WRE has based Stilicho

ERE does not
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>>135777095
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>mfw Venedian farmville runs are literally easiest way to play the game

Settlements that are unconquerable unless outnumbered atleast 4 to 1, piles of money and food from farms with no downsides, free fertility and the supposed "end game threat" of the huns can simply be bought off.
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>>135783746
start game ridiculous tho
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Playing S2 for the first time as Otomo, are European cannons good against infantry or only walls like the description says. holy shit nanban trade ships are goat, all these matchlocks and tercos, this is fun as hell
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hallo mein negars

I bought Atilla yesterday, love it. Played a bit of the prologue and everything flows so smooth.

A small question, however.

I began a Grand Campaign as the Franks, expanded southward and took the entire province, however my income is still very low and not high enough to repair/convert buildings per turn.

Is there a way to expand without having rebellions every other turn?

Thank you.
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>>135783746
>tfw I could never get off the ground
I really want to play as them but I am shit
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>>135778785
Trying to finish off the Sassanids puppets so I can send armies to go deal with the huns before Europe is thoroughly fucked.

Also real proud of based puppet Ostrogoths, fucking up Caucasian Lahkmids/Himyar.
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>>135779682
Divide Et Impera
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>>135783925
That's true, it's pretty much a 50/50 of every germanic neighbour instantly declaring war on you, and if you get real unlucky the nomads gun for you aswell. But the reward is great indeed.
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>>135784137
>implying
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>>135783958
Cannons are best used against enemy cavalry in field battles. but really their best factor is that they force the enemy to attack you. so while cannons might not be the best unit. its usually worth lugging one around just so that you can play your matchlocks defensively which is where they work the best.
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>>135784082
>that Europe
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>>135783958
They can really fuck up morale, but if you want series anti-everything, get you some Donderbuss cav.
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when should I convert to christianity as the langobards?
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>>135784485
Never.
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>>135784601
muh god tho

being a barbarian sucks
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>>135783746

If you take the Ma'rib dam and convert to Semitic paganism, you could get 3750 gold a turn from a single farm in a 5-fertility region - which is easy to get if you build two Slavic pagan buildings in each province before you convert to Semitic paganism.

I tried it, but after setting up my new capital in Arabia Felix, it just got boring. I'd have to fight the Sassies and I'd have to do it with shitty barbar units.
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>>135784679
Get slavshit religion. It's easily the most useful out of the religions available to you in that area of the map.
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>>135784041

>public order

Not that big a deal in the long term, immigration can make it a bitch but if you keep one army per province that's large enough to auto-wipe small rebel stacks, it isn't a big deal to wait for conquest penalties to decrease and for your own PO buildings to get built.
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>>135784847
>trade barbarian shit religion #1 for barbarian shit religion #2

wew
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>>135785929
>not wanting a religion that lets you return fertility to every province
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>>135743650
>tfw loved Rome Total war and spent endless hours on it
>want to get back in the series

Should I but Rome 2 or Attila?
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>>135786926

Attila
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>>135786451
what happens if you emigrate and deploy the slav terraforming generators in egypt?
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>>135786926
Rome 2 is about building an empire.
Attila is about surviving through a shit period, in an attempt to build something out of scraps.

Mechanically, Attila is far better.
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>>135787219
it's god tier
especially when you combine it with the dam
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>>135784825
Wouldn't BIG SLAV SHIELDS be great against the sassies?
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In S2 should I take those "This clan who was our ally is now planning to gank the shit out of you daimyo" messages seriously or not
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>>135787287
shit man
i think it's time to try yugo-yugoslavia
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>>135787284
I really wish someone would put rome 2 in atilla's engine
it is so hard to go back
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>>135787450
Take them seriously.
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>>135787450

Yes, they'll most likely attack in a couple turns unless you suddenly recruit or fortify the target city

>>135787458

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?2095-Ancient-Empires-(AE)
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>>135787695
WHEN?
H
E
N
?
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>>135787695
muh dick
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>>135787695
>>135787693
Put a small garrison in one of the cities that's far away and my doomstack in the other, they haven't attacked for 4-5 turns or so so I think I'm good, thanks lads, fucking Ito
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>>135787945
>>135788115

One of the modders usually post here, he said it'll probably come out in the summer this year
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>>135788478
>that weird af DoF

dude

tell me thats youtube compression or something
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>>135788218
Also
>look up a couple videos about the sengoku jidai so I can get acquainted
>mfw Oda, Takeda, and Tokugawa are dead in 3 turns from the start of my campaign
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>>135787695

I only wish they could find a way to edit/change the music

Its gonna be hard to get immerse with AE after playing Attila for 700ish hours
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>>135788718
Here is everything you need to know about the Sengoku Jidai

>Asskuwa Shogunate is shit
>People are still trying to preserve it, though
>Oda Clan is basically the laughing stock of Japan
>Nobunaga's dad dies, Nobunaga is heir, people don't want "the fool of Owari" to be daimyo
>Oda civil wars, Nobunaga wins, Nobunaga's bro commits suicide
>Imagawa tries to start shit
>20,000 Imagawa soldiers are defeated by 3000 Oda ones
>Tokugawa Clan is free and joins Oda
>Oda continues to kick ass all over Japan, becoming the most powerful clan
>Oda continues to outlast other clans/generals/daimyos that could have been a problem
>Oda could have became the Shoguns, but Nobunaga kept refusing the offer, probably wanted to control all of Japan and replace the Emperor
>Nobunaga dies
>Nobunaga's sandal-bearer-turned-samurai takes over, finishes the job by taking over Japan, but doesn't become Shogun since he's a peasant
>Sandal man dies
>Battle of Sekigahara
>Tokugawa become Shoguns
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>>135788697

Probably that shitty graphics filter from GEMFX
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>>135789148
>tfw Nobunaga didn't finish uniting all Japan
>tfw Sandal man peasant failed in his last great gambit, to conquer Korea
>tfw a guy who waited has everything fall into his lap
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>>135789546
At least Nobunaga will live on in history as the coolest of the three.
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>>135789546

"Nobunaga pounds the national rice cake, Hideyoshi kneads it, and in the end Ieyasu sits down and eats it."
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>>135789801
Kenshin is the coolest sengoku-chan
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So do you guys think Warhammer is going to be any good with only 4.5 factions?
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so what's the best mod for head to head shogun II? Been playing it for many hours with a friend but I've grown annoyed with a number of aspects:
being unable to change the taxation individually per town

unable to change capital

and most critically just how much of the game boils down to attacking versus defending. a couple yari ashigaru spear walling a hill shouldn't be this fucking good, really any unit with a hill is just at a stupid level of advantage.

Also anything to lessen the rock paper scissors element making calvary meh in general would be nice.
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>>135789896
>Ieyasu-cuck: Little bird, if you don't sing, then I-I'll just wait
>Hideyoshi: Little bird, if you don't sing, I'll make you sing
>NOBUNAGA-DONO: Little bird, if you don't sing I will kill you

>>135789937
Kenshin will live on as a waifu from a porn game.
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>>135787452

Tried it already. Theoretically it can give you insane farm income, especially if you convert to Semitic paganism after building the slav buildings everywhere (just make sure your capital is Arabia Felix or Ethiopia, and don't build any religious buildings there).

It's a pain in the ass dealing with Sassies and co., though.
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Is it just me or is the voice work in Attila... Bad.
>those Barbar voices
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>>135790940

OUR HORSES LUVE BLUD
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>>135790940
COME
SHIT
SHARE AWE FIYAH
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>5 Hun stacks massing at my border

Am I ded?
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>>135790940

What pisses me off is that the barbars are identical to those in Rome II.

I went to go try out RII, and figured a game as some Iberian barbars could be fun, given that they had such a big military influence on Rome.

Dropped it as soon as I selected a unit, and heard them yell "RRRREEEADY FOORRR BAAAATTUUUULLL!" just like my Visigoths in Attila.
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>>135791346
Oh my fuck. Playing Age of Charlemagne is a nightmare.

If you are a "civilised" faction you have Rome faction voices. Anyone else and you get "WARRIORS ALL". Couldn't play the British peoples because of this shit. Fuck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Wq-ku3AwTA
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>>135791701
You are disappointing your Saxon ancestors.
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>>135791701
This is some tough nordic shit you've gotten yourself into
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>fighting 4 navies of 3 units each with just 2 nanban trade ships
>suffer grand total of 6 casualties between the two ships and capture every ship
Holy fucking shit these things are OP, Otomo is so based
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>>135791326
trying paying them 3k-5k for a non aggression pact (raise taxes for a few turns if you don't have money), hopefully they'll fuck off and get in a fight with someone else, you'll have 10-20 turns to get your shit together if they come back.
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>>135745358
Rollin
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>>135791592
R2/Attila voice acting is pretty poor, but the WARRIORS AWL guy is the worst of the bunch. Even the fucking Avars use it.
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Every single game with Attila is just Europe being razed - I get thats the whole shtick with Attila but it gets old.

I am worried CA is going to make the same mistake with Chaos Warriors and whatever the invasion is supposed to be.

I have never seen a game where the AI makes the huns fuck off - it would be really bland and boring if it was just every game the entire northern and central part of the map gets fucked.
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>>135791701
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KYYVrBX4v0
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>>135794934
Time to PRAY FOR PEACE.
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>>135792659

>spreading christianity in glorious nipland

Gaijin-lovers are the worst.

I actually want to try out a vanilla S2 campaign for once, if only to see the naval battles.

What's the best mod if I'm a complete history fag who hates seeing katana samurai units and want things to be as autistically accurate as possible?
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>>135790940
I always loved barbar voices in attila and R2

>give attack order
>RRAAAW
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>>135795734
TROM3. Limits samurai units, adds in more ashigaru units, improves diplomacy, removes the "convert unit" feature that the AI gets, and other shit.
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>>135794308
Atilla and the advisor are great in Atilla.
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>>135744370
Rolling.
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>>135794934
Isn't your capital walled? Hole up and resist
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>>135797054
Re-roll.
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>>135745358
Rollin
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Do i get access to any new unit if i convert my clan to christianity in S2?
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>>135798227
european cannon, which btfo castles and cavalry. also early access to matchlock infantry which is good/okay depending on your playstyle
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>>135796954
>convert unit feature
huh?
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>>135787450
everyone in s2, and probably total war in general, is looking to kill you at the first opportunity

this is especially true in FOTS when clans will change faction if they can take one province from you
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>>135798798
The ai can convert ashigaru units into samurai
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>that vampire counts trailer
holy shit that was the lamest grimdark edgy shit I have ever seen, how do fantasyfags live with themselves
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>>135800025
We are sustained by the tears you shed at our triumph and the ejaculate you surrender to the Prince of the Philippines.
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>>135800025
no less edgy than attila
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>>135796954

Looked into it, seems less extreme that I wanted.

Has anyone here tried out Total Realism? I like the sound of most of their changes, but I'm hesitant given that I've never seen anyone on here even mention it.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?625381-Shogun-II-Total-Realism-Beta-15-10-02-released
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What do i lose if i convert my clan to christianity?
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>>135801791
Honor, you filthy gaijin cocksucker.
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>>135801002
far less edgy than attila
and attila was edgy and grimdark as fuck
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>>135784041
Why the fuck do girls do this
If they're going to take a picture they could have the decency of using a mounted camera so we can't see them holding their stupid phone and so they're not looking at the phone instead of the camera
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I blitzed through Britain as the Saxons. Wiped out the inferior tribes in a few turns. How the fuck do I stabilize these towns now? I have to keep 3 stacks running around this piece of shit island stomping rebels after every turn.
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>>135802792
It's because the spread of disease. Not the Russian winter. Plenty of nations successfully wandered across Russia through the harshest seasons. It's complete coincidence that all that have tried in recent history had failed for different reasons.
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>>135803105
what
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>>135803191
I was replying to your statement about how the Russian winter was the reason for the defeat of both Hitler and Napoleon. Particularly Napoleon, with the disease being a factor.
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>>135803973
...no, you were replying to a semi-sarcastic question about why girls take selfies.
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>>135804096
That's weird. Why would somebody post something like that in /twg/?
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>>135804474
why would someone post a selfie in /twg/?
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>>135804528
because they are mentally ill and post other people's pictures online?
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>>135804792
fair enough
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How does anyone watch Pixelated Apollo, his commentary is so annoying and shit I can't stand two minutes of it jeez.
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>>135803973

I just wanna wreck shit with nanban ships, why can't I use one in custom battles?
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>>135804981
>How can someone like something i don't like
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>>135804981

I like him. Fuck off.

I bet your prefer cancer of total war or something.
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Any idea when CA plans to release another informative blog article?

At this point I would even take one of their classic half-assed video reveals/streams
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>>135744370
RAWLIN
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>>135805239
calm down pls
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>>135806142

Why?

You legendfags love frustrated autists who cannot mutter a sentence without a fuck in it.
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>No AoC map set during the end of Attila Camp

J U S T
>can't play roman Britain
>can't kill Franks as Soissons
>can't unite France as Franks
>Ostrogoths
>Visigoths
>can't save Italy as Romulus Augustus
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>>135806248
You're the one who's dropping that word all over the place
maybe it's you who likes Cancer of TW.
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How would you make the rosters for the Imperial provinces unique? Should they just copy-paste from rotdg, or can it be done better?
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>>135807235
What the fuck did you just said you fucking fucker?,you better fucking shut your damm fucking mouth or il fucking break it into fucking pieces until you fucking start crying.You fucker don't want to fucking see me fucking angry or il fucking go fucking Black fucking Orc on your fucking ass you fucking faggot.

What the fuck are you reading you fucking faggot,fuck you.
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>>135808080
>>>/b/
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>>135808080
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>>135808080
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>>135808080
you gonna get hired by Ninja Theory as a writer anon
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>>135773789

i must be playing it wrong then.
I've been on the same short fall of the samurai campaign for like 25 hours or ~120 turns now
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>>135808615
It depends on you play. I have a general rule that I dont use autoresolve for most instances. But if youre autoresolving for everything it will go back far far faster.
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>>135808445

Nah, I'll just write scripts for legend's videos.
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Help me friends, I am a retard with tech but love total war.

I wish to play the extended Greek mod on Rome total war, but I have RTW off of steam. I think I know the problem. Apparently I need version 1.5 to install mod, but the steam version is 1.51 or something. How do I get around this problem? I just want Hoplites with non retarded spears.
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>>135802890
>conquering shit smeared barbarians and their hovels
>instead of moving to the east and taking over the only places that matter at the time period

disgusting desu
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Passed along the files to Dresden to do his unit cost algorithm. I have to go back and see about the rebellion units (I am fairly sure there's a table that dictates which units rebel for which faction, so it would be nice to solve to avoid Ethiopians rebelling for Lakhmids. I may not be able to do that but I need to try) and after I've done that and Dresden has done the unit costs FOTE v5 Sassy Sassies will be uploaded. I'd say probably by Monday assuming Dresden is free this Sunday, but otherwise definitely in the next few days. I am pretty sure I've caught most of the bugs reported that were viable to handle (I didn't mess with naval shit except to make the Garamantines able to recruit naval units properly).

I've thrown in Avetis' optional side mod of the White huns ( http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?707427-WIP-Preview-and-Stand-alone-mod-quot-Sveta-Huna-quot ) albeit without their settled & horde duplicates. They are just hordemode in this standard release. He's a cool guy though I'd admit I would have done the White huns a little differently I think his will be much more fun for people than mine would have been. Might later when I have free time tweak them to be more how I'd see the White Huns for my own personal use.
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dead thread
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>Tfw enjoy Legend's commentary but don't like his playstyle too much
>tfw love Oakley's playstyle and commentary (Even if he can be awkward when life commentating) but he doesn't do playthroughs

Why must life be so hard.
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>>135813040
Indypride. a.k.a milkandcookiestw is who you need.
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>>135813040
>calls Mannfred Vlad
>thinks Averheim is Altdorf
>has no idea what the different VC units are
Bless Oakley, the guy tries hard but he really knows nothing about Warhammer. Ironically he is still my favorite TW youtuber to cover it since he doesn't spend 80% of the video whining about DLC.
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>>135804528
Why would someone doxx a korean tripfag so that they could ejaculate on his picture?
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>>135813965
Because that's hot.
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>>135813965
>Spanish Japan
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>>135813965
wtf is this
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>>135814273
>Spanish
>White
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>>135811058
omg, release when?
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>>135811058

Cool, thanks for doing all this shit, FotE is great.

Will it fuck up existing saves? Should I back up the version I'm using now?
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holy crap Rome 2's campaign is so boring and stale i literally feel like I'm rotting away from playing it. Too bad I cant fix it since all the good campaign mods are on steam.

I'm gb2 attila despite the battles being unbalanced, which is probably my only quiff with the game, the campaign is wild as hell.

>pic related, 90 turns into a hideously stagnant "very hard" seleucid campaign despite 2 civil wars both started on purpose due to boredom.

i cant continue. its just too boring
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>>135814664
Nice to see AXUM expanding.
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>>135814664

>pirate game
>bitch about how boring it is

Are you retarded or something?
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>>135813131

fucking hell i'm just holding my head and yelling at my monitor while watching that guys videos

he seems knowledgable and commentates fine but the fucking camera is constantly on the highest zoom factor on ground level

i can barely fucking tell what is where and it's driving me insane
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>>135814738
i didnt know piracy makes games shittier
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>>135814664
yeah rome 2 is a big blunder, attila is better, but not by that much. Hopefully this is CA dark ages and they reach a renaissance with warhammer and onwards
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>>135814664
my main gripe is how utterly retarded the campaign AI is (not in every way, as they do things that are smarter than say medieval 2), but the thing is, you never see a huge consolidated power. In the late game everything is so fractured and your enemeies controlled a handful of provinces at best, probably because rebellion is so fucking common
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>>135813871
>Oakley used screenshots of the Friday VC livestream that were from /twg/ in his video talking about it

ONE OF US
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>>135814664
>Antiochus land
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>>135814393
Something clearly written by someone who doesn't speak spanish.
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>>135814578

Yeah I would back up the current version. Rename the files so they aren't overridden by steam. Like @fall_of_the_eagle_1_old and so on.

I have no idea if it'll be compatible with an older save or not. It ought to since it doesn't edit the startpos but it could end up wonky.

>>135814515
Should just be a few more days. Good news is I think the rebellion unit table is pretty straightforward. I thought it was like armed citizenry (militias/garrisons) but rather it seems to just be a single page. I just have to do it for Romans and Easterners, and will do that in a few mins.

Did just remind me I need to make sure the White huns use our projectiles rather than vanilla, so lemme fix that.
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>>135814273
Who's the girl supposed to be
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A native presumably.
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>>135745358
rolllll
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>>135816129
a meztiso or indian qt
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>>135816698
Why is she so happy
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>>135816740
Because she is receiving superior European cock
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>>135816980
Then why is the Spaniard so happy
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Is he ded?
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>>135817096
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>>135817201
>>135817096
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>>135817303
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>>135817026
Because he is finally out of Spain.
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>>135817397
>arrow #1654234 uses force push
It's super effective!
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>>135794934
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When the FUCK are they going to fundamentally overhaul how agents work?

This RNG bullshit is the single biggest flaw of this series, the player has no control and it basically forces you to savescum to not lose valuable resources.

On tangentially related topic

>Settle near Italy as Visigoths
>Every single turn
>Misdirect Workforce, Misdirect Workforce, Misdirect Workforce.

Fuck you Rome, I thought you were supposed to be collapsing, how can you afford a billion agent actions per turn?
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>>135817572
>facebook
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>>135817573
>fundamentally overhaul
I think it's fine desu, how else would you do it? Don't tell me they're weak or something, Attila nerfed them compared to R2 and S2 where you could win the game with agents alone but they're still incredibly powerful.
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>>135817572
>Pagans
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>>135817705

>how else would you do it?

I don't fucking know, if I were smart enough to figure that out I'd be making games instead of posting on 4chan.

Make some kind of option mini-game you can choose to do in place of the random number generator?

I dunno, fucking anything that isn't "Press button and pray to Wodan"
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>>135817854
You want to make agents have a 100% success rate? That's what'll happen if you make it a minigame because the plebs will complain otherwise.
>critical success
>critical success
>critical fucking success
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>>135817573
People think strategy is all about how simply moving units around and besting another player. Yet at its core, it isn't, its about dealing with uncertainty. Thats why the best strategy games have significant random elements, to create uncertainty... Most of the games people cite as "good strategy games" actually aren't strategy games at all. Chess is not a good "strategy game" neither is X-Com, starcraft or most RTS. They have their own strategy elements, but not games that require good understandings of probabilities and their effects on planning.
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>>135818091
The uncertainty in RTS games comes from not having perfect information.
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>>135817573
Honestly, I'm more concerned about city/provincial management.

Seems like anything will negatively affect happiness. Raids/attacks on your settlements leave you reeling for turns. Taking new towns ALWAYS has copious amounts of unhappiness, amplified by taxes/food and shit. I've always got to keep an army around to ensure it's in the green, and there's few buildings for some factions to promote happiness. It's so fucking annoying to deal with, I want to wage war, not spend most of my time fire fighting and performing damage control on my kingdom. I'm still pissed when you retake a lost settlement, it doesn't have less/no unhappiness debuff.

As retarded as RTW and M2 were with waiting until your settlement rebels before executing the population to revert happiness, I'd take it any time compared to the ridiculous effort needed to manage it in R2/Attila.
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>>135818091

Bullshit.

Good strategy games are ones that force you to play without perfect information, you know, like how strategy works in the real fucking world. Strategy comes from try to out-think an opponent who is trying to out-think you at the same time while you both makes jabs and attempt to conceal information from each other, it doesn't come from doing that and then also having the actual outcome determined by a fucking dice-roll.
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>>135814415
Spain is white lmao
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>>135818365

>Mediterranean fucking shits
>White

ayy
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>>135818217
>As retarded as RTW and M2 were with waiting until your settlement rebels before executing the population to revert happiness

lmao retard, the only settlements you would execute are bigger ones that are of a different culture/religion, the population growth is so slow that massacring a Tier 1/2 town would ruin it forever whereas the bigger ones grow back quick.
In MTW2 public order was NO issue at all anymore since you can just deploy single units anywhere.

But yea I agree public order is shit in R2/Attila
Why would someone get upset if you expand the farms, oh no more food at a cheaper price - how dare you?!
I live in in a 4500 people village surrounded by miles and square-miles of farmland and have yet to see someone complain.
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>>135818482

Maybe most of the population sits on their asses all day and more farmland mean that jobs open up and they actually have to work for their food.
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Yo Elrond what the fuck, there's a war on our borders. Move your ass.
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>>135818553
Just use the immigrants that they get all the time.

We still use Eastern Europeans on our fields here.
They come during harvest, get paid their wage while living in the farmers barn and then they drive home.
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>>135818482
>lmao retard, the only settlements you would execute are bigger ones that are of a different culture/religion, the population growth is so slow that massacring a Tier 1/2 town would ruin it forever whereas the bigger ones grow back quick.
In MTW2 public order was NO issue at all anymore since you can just deploy single units anywhere.
You're the fucking idiot here m80. That's precisely what I said and implied. Anyone who's played RTW/M2 knows the unhappiness issue with large towns.
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>>135818609
>Eriador
>not Arnor
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>>135818609
Elrond probably died in Rivendell familia.
Their apparent incompetence is because they're grieving him still.

backstab them, take their women
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>>135817573
>settling in Italy

thats your first mistake
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>>135818716

Annuminas is still growing. I'm getting closer.
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>>135818671
There are certain towns with high fertility in RTW that will grow so much that it causes trouble like Ptavium.
Most towns dont support the fertility tho to get that high and in MTW2 you needed 8-10 chiv generals to get the population high enough that it "COULD" cause trouble, but then theres a high chiv general keeping the order up!
And in RTW you dumped some town-guards into the city.
If you think RTW had public order issues then HANG YOURSELF.
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>>135819078
After a while, happiness would run out of control, and requires a population cull once it rebels. If you haven't figured this out, HANG YOURSELF.
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>>135811058
The balance is shit in AoC. Stats are all over the place.
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>>135818765

Man, it's my first Attila campaign and I'm just doing what the game is not-so-subtly signposting for me to do.
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>>135789896
And then Masamune arrives only to find out the cake is gone.
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>>135819413
this, pls fix
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>>135819159
But i thought im supposed to HANG THE POPULATION?
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>>135819413

I didn't touch the stats in AOC, copied their land unit stats 100%, however it did use some tables we had edited (db tables for armor, weapons, projectiles and such) which led to some wackiness at least in regards to projectiles. I removed our old projectile entries since I've switched all but the Slavs to the new projectiles (where there is stuff like composite_bow_inf_low/medium/high/elite, so in time we can scale differences between archers more). Will do it for slavs later. But AOC should now only use Vanilla bow projectiles, albeit still our javelins and such.

I actually can do the same for armor and melee weapons since all (but the slavs) have our new melee weapon values and armor values and shield values. I'm not sure if I'll get to it before this V5 release but I'll do that next. I'll actually make a note of this to see if Dresden can wait to let me do it, since it'll just take a day or less to do.

If you're talking about CA's AOC stats being all helter skelter, I have to admit the idea of restatting all those AOC units is really daunting and I'm not sure I'd want to do it. At best I could do a cheap as fuck approach of copying relevant FOTE counterparts (Scara paladins being the stats of Palatina Vexillatio Cavalry or some such) over. But even that would take some time.
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Anyone tried this out?

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=647788544

Looks pretty nice for fleshing out minor settlements, the +1 fertility on maxed out farming settlements could be a godsend in the late game.
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>want to play third age
>don't want to play medieval II

Feels bad
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>>135804885
holy shiiiit sauce ?
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>>135819442
the best place to settle if you are playing one of the great migrators AND are new is Iberia, its easy to defend since there are only two narrow passes into it, and while getting there, you will have the ability to sack every roman town and city from pannonia too Carthago Nova which should leave you pretty rich

>>135818217
well in AoC they removed negative public order from all buildings which is imo pushing it too far, I never had any problem managing public order in Attila even on legendary difficulty, but I can see how some could find it annoying
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>>135748842
Same with napoleon. I turned europe into a bunch of russian vassal states with 1900-ish borders.

Its 1832 and everyone has maxed out everything so every battle is a 3 stack vs 3 stack.
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I think i'm getting motion sickness from all these youtubers trying to make battles "cinematic" by flailing around with zoom and the over the shoulder camera modes.
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>nordic band
Get the fuck out saxon shits.

I don't know if CA intended it but this is always the first battle as WRE and never fails to set the tone that I'm outnumbered and beset on all sides, but I'll be damned if I give the barbars my empire on a silver platter.
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>>135814664
cucking yourself
being able to pirate a game but not to download steam mods
http://steamworkshopdownloader.com/
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even after 800 hours I still have no clue what dictates the popularity traits

>>135823206
thats the spirit amicus, dont give an inch of roman clay to that scum
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>>135823206
>nordic band
is there a worse unit in the game?
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>>135824051
rebel militia that tanooks get for free
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>>135820110
Would it be possible to revert to vanilla stats?
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>>135765406
Spiders are such fucking qts.

Going to play Greenskins and just field an army of the bastards.
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Do you think is still worth to install Shogun 2 on an SSD ?
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>>135824271

For AOC? The land unit stats (melee attack and melee defense and what armor they use and so on) are unchanged from vanilla. They are vanilla. However melee attack or defense are a culmination of land_stats, armor type (at least in armor), shield type (defense and armor). But yeah, it would be possible for me to delete our old vanilla entries for shields/armor/weapons to further make them vanilla-esque.

That would still leave FOTE kv_morale, kv_rules (stuff like hit percentage chance across the board, archery hit chance, some other macro mechanics). If you want FOTE stuff for AOC without any of that you'd just want to download part 2/3/4 and then knights of the Oriflamme, the mod I made to be AOC with fote skins but no fote mechanics.

But I will prob do that (deleting our old vanilla overrides of armor and such, so that any unit we haven't statted and replaced with our new armor/weapon/shield/ect values only uses vanilla ones) if not for this release then a patch soon after it.

For the vanilla campaign it would be much too much work to redo all the units with vanilla stats. I'd welcome someone making a mod that uses my skins for vanilla without stat changes, but I cant' do it myself.
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>>135824607
The loading times are relatively long for me, so installing on a SSD wouldn't hurt I guess
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>watcha Lets play for Napoopan
>apparently as France you can ally with Prussia and make them declare war on Russia
>same with allying with Denmark and making them declare War on Sweden yes

Pretty cool shit.
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>>135824210
Actually they're surprisingly useful because they're free and have a high missile block chance, given the Tanukhids general lack of armour, they're a useful missile sponge unit for sieges.

Nordic band have no redeeming qualities.
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>>135824597
Scorpion master race. Spiders are pussies.
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>>135825176
Scorpions are shit tier and make bad pets.
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>>135825115
>losing this many men
>in a city defense
>as ROME
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>>135825115
It still says FOTE is out of date on my workshop, can you play the mod with the newest patch and DLC?
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>>135825229
I'm not a pet person in general. I've lived with a zoolord and handled spiders and snakes and other reptiles, they're completely pointless to keep.
I don't like the idea of keeping pets on a general level of avoiding keeping a creature solely for my own gratification, so the only pets I can truly justify are working animals.
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>>135825115
>I told Severus to defend Britannia and he actually did it the absolute fucking madman.jpg
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>>135825383
Scorpions are working animals?
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>>135825446
Scorpions are cool compared to spiders. Neither should ever be a pet.
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>>135825496
Pets tend to do better in a home than in the streets imo.
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>>135825560
>Pets tend to do better in a home than in the streets imo.
t. KKK
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>>135825560
Yeah but they'll never make anything of themselves. You won't get a feral dog with over 200 confirmed kills if you keep it as a pet. They can't live up to their potential.
It's like the aboriginals, the government keeps them on a leash and feeds them liberally so they can show off to the rest of the world that they have a pet. This isn't good for the aboriginals, they'll never have an opportunity to make anything for themselves this way.

Most of the animals in the streets that do poorly are a result of over-breeding and abandoning pets. Without our pet keeping culture they would be miles away.
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>>135825738
>He wants to dump kittens on the streets.

Anon please we know they won't function out there.
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>>135825798
>They can't live up to their potential

Neither do we as humans, I don't see most people out in the forests hunting down deer and inventing civilisation.

We do what we do to have the most comfortable and happy life we can, and when you keep a pet you extend that to them too.
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>>135825802
I know you're joking but cats would survive better without humans than a lot of dog species
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>>135825383
>keeping a creature solely for my own gratification
>tfw my cat was an abandoned stray kitten I took in out of pity and refusal to let her die
>she keeps my house free of spiders and other assorted bugs and most importantly gets to live
What now anon?
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>>135825952
I was just looking for an excuse to post cats on /twg/ to be honest.
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>>135825115
>has a full stack of soldiers
>celts havent been wiped out yet

absolutely barbaric
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>>135825901
We are arbitrarily discussing pointless topics with strangers halfway across the world off the back of the entire history of our race's advancement to the point that this is technologically and sociably feasible. We ARE our potential.

>>135826007
I'm just talking about my private stance. And vermin sweeping felines kinda count as working animals.
But maybe that you saved the one kitten, denied a crow a kitten corpse; resulting in the starvation of its many young.
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>>135826149
You expect Cats to do the same lol. The most potential they have is living like a wild animal in all it's brutality. As a pet they're given a loving and comfortable life, exceptions excluded.
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>>135826238
If they're subject to the brutality of nature's arena then perhaps they'll rise to the same heights, given time. They certainly have no need to invent gunpowder whilst everything is provided for them.
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>>135826149
Your private stance is legitimately stupid and autistic though anon. If you have a pet purely for companionship it's still a working animal and it's job is making the owner happy, even the stupid things like snakes which care not one bit for you, never mind something like a dog which legitimately loves you.
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>>135826097
>Sassanid Diplomacy.gif

Sassanids weren't Arabs. That's Himyar diplomacy.
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>>135826345
I don't think we should condemn billions of domestically bred animals to brutality in the unlikely event that in billions of years they evolve to challenge us. That's fucking weird no offence.

It's not like everyone's keeping Tigers as pets, be happy that they'll do the job.
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>>135826097
>filename
Not ERE diplomacy?
>>135826345
>>135826149
We don't have a responsibility to help animals achieve potential - the fact that we're able to stop it and have is, in a way, an indication that it made the wrong choice or didn't evolve fast enough and was 'eliminated' by humans, who evolved to the point where they raise other animals for fun first.
It was in the wild, it faced wild brutality, and it got friggen rekt and now humans reign over it. The only difference is that unlike 'wild' animals which would've driven things they beat to extinction, humans decided that they could get more out of it by raising it for fun.
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Who needs melee units anyway?
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Oh boy I sure do love the most indefensible settlement in the game.
>no decent choke points
>6 different entry points across 3 sides
>none of which you can actually barricade
>arrow towers carefully placed to ensure maximum incineration of the town they're in through missed shots
Just fuck my shit up architect.
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>>135824732
I think the problem is the stat differences between units. Tier 3 units being worse then tier 1 levies for example.
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>>135826636
>Central plaza defending the capture point with a single entrance.

Makes up for the weaknesses desu.
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>>135826486
It could be referring to the practice of throwing money around like that.
The filename could be a condensed version of 'An_Arab_engaging_in_Sassanid_diplomacy'.

>>135826406
It's entirely based on the fact that I would not want to exist for somebody else's companionship only.

>>135826524
I'm not saying that is what we should be, I'm exaggerating.

>>135826550
Not a responsibility, but a passing curiosity.
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>>135826636
That town is fucking horrible and Attila's 'barricades can only be placed here...here...and here!' system is just as bad.
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>>135826636
Just shove all your infantry in the central rotunda thing and hammer and anvil them. Not ideal but it's better than nothing.
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>>135826636
>the most indefensible settlement

All you have to do is move all your units to the centre, block that entrance with a unit or two and testudo it out.

I've broken entire stacks on that map with nothing but the garrison.
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these avar auxilaries are really good, liberating them and then instantly backstabing and turning into a puppet state, ruining my reputation while doing so was totally worth it, since the horse archers and spears with bows are both pretty useful

>>135826636
oh dog, I hate that settlement too, which is why I always rushed it to tier 4 to give it walls
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Is the Tier 3 barbar town battlemap supposed to be worse than the Tier 2 one?
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>>135826619
Can somebody link a good let's play single battle example of fucking over three or four times your own men without a technology advantage on offense? I can't do it very often and feel garbage looking at these images. And I can't figure it out without looking at live gameplay.
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>>135826619
>that army comp
Epic
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When im fortified how the heck do I use my deployables, I know it has a sub-window with unit cards like it is when you have navy/land-units but I cant deploy the deployables, it just doesnt let me, do I have to press a special button?
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>>135826636
That settlement would be great if the top of the colluseum could be garrisoned by archers and you could put down a barricade by the entrance.
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>>135827062
>select them
>right click inside yellow area
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>>135826860
>t4 for walls
Thankfully I'm trying out >>135820753 So in a couple of turns all my border settlements are going to get basic walls and improved garrisons
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>>135827426
just play on easy then, the garrison settlement sounds too strong
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>>135826619

>That army comp

Kill yourself
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>>135827276
But the yellow area is solely inside my fort, I want to block off entrances man

I almost wrote fart instead of fort
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>>135826929

You need to go for their general. With their general dead the enemy will waiver pretty quickly, attack from the flanks and it should cause a chain route, and you can just mop up
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>>135826619

Based burgundians.
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>>135827751
Yeah CA dun goofed with that
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>>135827458
We'll see, it's pretty expensive to build costing 5k at a time when I'm only making 10k a turn and fully upgraded has a 2k maintenance cost on top of not generating any income like a regular settlement would making it more like a 2.5k cost. It's not an insignificant investement when I have to make that 10k a turn stretch over the entire WRE and I've played this game to death so may aswell try new shit before TWW hits.

That and my experience with huns has taught me that if the city is too hard to siege they'll just ride past it and beat the shit out of my economic powerhouses instead.
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Vassal please what are you doing, i only last turn liberated you.
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>>135828248
If hes a shogunate clan he will declare war on you even if youre Jesus.
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>>135828248
>power: terrifying
>prosperity: spectacular
>vs
>power: feeble
>prosperity: destitute
Do they expect to actually do anything?
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>>135828957

https://youtu.be/4jn7SSBiFoE?t=131
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>>135828957
They think so because he is at war with so many other shogunate clans.
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>446 AD in Attila
>everything going fine
>suddenly game starts lagging, but ONLY south of the english channel and west of Greece
What the fuck is this shit? It's 60 FPS everywhere but that quadrant of the map, where it's 5.
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>>135829296
Too soon
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>>135829548
The crushing bureaucracy of the Eurozone is bleeding through into fictional depictions of Yurup.
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>>135829805
bls this is a real problem
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What are the differences between Rome II and Attila?
Clocked 50 hours after getting the emperor edition for a few bucks on G2A and I kinda got bored of it already.
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>>135829296
what?
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>>135829934
Rome II got nice time period but shit gameplay
Attila got shit time period but nice gameplay
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>>135830083
This.
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>>135829864
are there any clouds?
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>>135830313
Yeah it's cloudy here, I don't think we will see the sun today, what about you ?
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>listening to banter pre-siege since I have unlimited time anyway
>Is that the general there?
>He's doing well for us
>aye lad, always good to follow a winner
I love this stuff
>>135830313
There are a shitton...in Britain, where it doesn't lag.
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>>135829723
What happend to the guy?
Not too familiar with e-celebs.
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>>135830408
He was one of the victims of the paris attacks
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>>135830408
He's kill
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>>135830482
>>135830530
Ouch.
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>>135830595
Bascinet of course, don''t want to take an arrow to my face very much
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>>135830595
conical or kettle hat all day every day

flat top helmets are suicide
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>>135829296
This site is 18+
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>>135830595
Bascinet, im a bird.
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>>135830595
Kettle.
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>>135830595
kettle
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>>135830819
Can you imagine how much French pussy they got?
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Why is autoresolving disabled in sieges when I have a clear advantage? Attila btw.
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>>135830940
No siege engines.
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>>135830995
So I have to keep on the siege until I build some ladders?
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>>135831113
Yea, what are your soldiers supposed to do?
Scratch the walls down.

That being said, where is the option to employ sappers like we could in Rome 1 ?
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>>135831113
Yes. Or, if you're not a retard, hire a merc onager, autoresolve, then disband merc onager.
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>>135830935
>tfw you will never go on a chevauchée through the French countryside as a mounted archer

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1GDRx-F1C0
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>>135831229
>Yea, what are your soldiers supposed to do?

I dunno, batter down the gates with their weapons like they can do on the battlemap?
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>>135830595
Kettle hats are objectively the coolest.
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>>135818091
>Starcraft
>no uncertainty
Want to know how I know you're bronze league, scrub?
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>>135827697
why balance an army that fucking kills everything?
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>>135832151
and how do you kill huns ?
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>>135832217
i'm not at war with the huns
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>>135831410
That should literally not be allowed, if you spent all your siege ammo and there's no breach and you didn't bring a ram or tower / those got busted, the AI / you should just withdraw.
There's literally no way you could've just battered down a fuggun city gate with your hands.
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>>135832271
But it was fun to do so in M1
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>>135832835
So was Oregon Trail back in the day.
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>>135821017

I'm not actually very threatened militarily, it's just the fucking agents that keep harassing me.

I settled in Narbonensis and struck up an alliance with the Jutes who control the rest of France and are stronk as fuck, Iberia is a mess of Vandals, rebels and separatists that never makes a peep except when Espania sends out a stack of shit-tier units to annoy me, I'm pretty secure as long as I'm careful
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"I WILL CUM, FROM THE DARKNESS"

t.Spy
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>>135833969
"Sailors have such ROUGH hands"
t. Roman slut
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>>135833034
Oregon Trail and Operation Gatecrasher in M1 are still fun today
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>>135834363
Man I re-downloaded Oregon Trail a couple of years ago and boy the graphics were shit
I don't know what I was expecting but I remember thinking it was photorealistic or something
nostalgia is a hell of a drug
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>>135834694
Remastered Oregon trailer when
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>>135834876
Fuck that, it'll be Oregon Trail HD Edition with all the bugginess and lag the original didn't have
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>mfw there's no mod to change the voices in Age of Charlemagne
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>>135835052
READY FOR BATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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Why is there no diplomatic option to threaten war
Why is there no diplomatic option to broker peace between two other people
Why can't my friends be friends instead of at war with each other
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>>135835105
LAYING SIEGE TO THEIR HOVELS!
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HEAVEN CAN WAIT!
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>>135835105
THURSTEEE FOR BATTTUL

NO

YOU'RE FARMERS RAISED AT THE SWORD POINT BY YOUR LORDS

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>135835373
>YOU'RE FARMERS RAISED AT THE SWORD POINT BY YOUR LORDS
I don't like this meme, that's not how levies usually worked.
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>>135835105
>>135835310
>>135835250
>>135835373
my favourite is:
>WE WILL PIERCE THEIR HEARTS!
makes it sound like they are some aggressive barbar cupids
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>tfw Constantinople got eaten by turks and is now host to roachs and self-destruct equipped roaches
What would Constantine say about the bombing lads
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>>135835373
barbars had a warrior culture.
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Ottoman destruction coming soon to a /twg/ near you.

https://youtu.be/DRtnWVvDX6k
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>>135835250
This line is so ironic when you're laying siege to a tier 3+ Roman city or a tier 4 roman town (which has fucking stone walls jesus what) as a barbar living in a literal hovel.
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>>135835597
crusade to retake Constantinople when?
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>>135835742
If you and your friends lived in a hovel all your life you would probably refer to other people's houses as hovels too. There's no irony.
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>>135835742
Mod for WH when?
So I can siege Altdorf as Orcs and have them say
"LAYING SIEGE TO THEIR HOVELS"
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>>135836238
Is this the PONTUS of WH?
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>>135835597
Aren't the people blowing themselves up Arabs rather than Turks?
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>>135836408
Hovels?

I guess so.
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>>135836524
I dunno.
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>>135836408

Nah, Pontus was funny
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>barbars have a unique tier3 battle womyn unit

absolutely fucking barbaric, laughing_romans.jpg
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>>135836004
>>135835597

It's not Constantinople anymore. Vae Victus.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsQrKZcYtqg
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>>135837092
Pretty cool actually, more character than generic SONS OF WODAN heavy infantry.
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>>135837186
>DAUGHTERS OF MARS
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>>135783154
ERE has ANICIUS PROBINUS
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>>135837586
That was the name of the DLC, not the units.
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>>135837186
spot the warham fag
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>>135837092
Wait what
Celts?
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>>135837186
they are a real good unit too evidently, I am just playing custom battles against the AI with the faction I think I'm unlikely to do a grand campaign with and they did really good
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>>135837950
Not him but why?
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>>135838264
>who cares if it's all retarded and makes no sense, it's cool - fantasy fags
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>>135838040
Ebdanians>Scatha's techers
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>>135838420
all celts have them actually
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>>135838420
I don't get it, is it a scathy unit or something?
>>135838412
As a historyfag, fuck off.
>>
WILL YOU NOT GIVE OUR PEOPLE A LITTLE GOLD?
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>>135838607
Scatha was some woman who trained and fucked Cú Chulainn of Ulster
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>flaming javelins
HWAT?
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>>135838607
as a fantasy fag, fuck you

I can do that too.
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>>135838887
Many skirmishers had that in R2
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>>135838886
No I know who Scathy is.
friendly thighs
>>135838970
No you don't get it. I don't like WH, I don't hate it but that's because I know nothing about the lore and don't care enough to learn
Female units, especially for celts who have meme female units in their myths, is no less acceptable than crossbow cav fucking REEEE what the fuck
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>>135839756
Crossbow cav is a historical thing. elite womyn only units aren't.
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>>135839756
>I don't like WH, I don't hate it but that's because I know nothing about the lore and don't care enough to learn
Then you're indifferent to it. To not like something, as in dislike, means you have a problem with it.

Much negativity in the world comes from people being overly negative when really what they mean is "I don't care for X".
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>>135839756
>Female units, especially for celts who have meme female units in their myths, is no less acceptable than crossbow cav
Bitch please.
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>>135839829
>crossbowmen
>on horses
>in 400 AD
I doubt it, where are you getting this info?
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>>135838412
>m-m-muh historically accurate sandals

Go back to twc
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>>135840040
>>135840030
Well shit. how the fuck did they reload the thing, did they use winches on horseback or was it just a weaker bow?
>>135839950
I don't like it, but I don't dislike it. Not liking something doesn't mean specifically disliking it, just like not respecting something doesn't mean specifically disrespecting etc.
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Frankish victory is mine!

Now, is Last Roman any good or do I go for Charlieman?
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>>135840040
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheiroballistra
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>>135840040
>what is an arcuballista

And you call yourself a historyfag.
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Is there a mod for Attila that makes AI armies retreat less frequently? I can't find one that just does that.
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>>135840380
>The name of the weapon implies that portable versions might also have existed, similar to crossbows.[dubious – discuss]
>[dubious - discuss]
>dubious
It's a giant arbalest m8, not a crossbow used on horseback.
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>>135840378
TLR is good,more unit variety than AoC,but less quests(unless you play as expedition)
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>>135840369
>how the fuck did they reload the thing, did they use winches on horseback or was it just a weaker bow?
Slower than bow, faster than early muskets and pistols.
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>>135745358
roll... pls no RotS
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>>135744008
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>>135840737
fuck that... reroll
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>>135840470
Building a repeating crossbow as a middleschooler is a pretty good accomplishment to counter this gap in knowledge.
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>>135840378
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>>135840927
??? what does this have to do with anything?? LARPers make their own retarded swords and armor too.
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>>135841139
This is Total War not Total Larp you nerd.

mandatory vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoMxvcDdnDU
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>>135841139
>retarded swords and armor
First off I don't even know what LARP means, second off if they legitimately forged a sword that's pretty damn impressive.
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>>135838620
YOU HAVE MUCH, AND OUR PEOPLE DO NOT WANT TO BECOME THE SLAAAAVES OF ENVVYYYY
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>>135842349
Are you too retarded to google? Anyway their "swords" are mostly foam or wood padded with foam.
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>>135840869
Fucking stick to your rolls coward
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>>135842524
>too retarded to google
I just don't really care what LARP means.
>mostly foam or wood padded with foam
Well that's kind of cringe worthy.
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>>135842783
Almost as cringe worthy as your middle school larp crossbow
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>>135763525
ETERNAL CITY
T
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N
A
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C
I
T
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>>135837092

>Not liking womyn units

I would make a women only faction if I knew how to mod
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>>135842841
I wish I still had it so I could show you that it was legitimately a chukonu repeating crossbow (ammo was just sanded dowels though), now sod off.
>>135842947
What the frig is this.
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>>135842947
>Adeptus Mechanicus mod released yesterday
>Bolter Bitches mod finally got completed after the original team gave up 8 fucking years ago

>tfw Thousand Sons mod will be released soon

Fuck DoW 2, only good for Last Stand
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>>135843019
What did you kill with it, your cat?
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>>135745358
roll
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>>135843069
>Adeptus Mechanicus mod released yesterday
link?
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>>135842947

I'd dig an Amazon faction, for diversity and fap

>>135843019

It's a Sisters of Battle mod for Dawn of War.
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>>135843182
Nothing, I just fired it a couple of times in my yard. Why would I kill something with it, I thought it was cool after seeing it in AoE II and looking it up.
seriously, it feels so good to just push the lever-thing forward, feel it catch on, pull it back, hear the click and see the new ''''''bolt''''' pop up
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>>135843019

Witch Hunters mod for Soulstorm
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>>135843019
DID SOMEBODY SAY CHU KO NU?

>>135843283
http://www.moddb.com/mods/adeptus-mechanicus/downloads/adeptus-mechanicus-exporators-public-beta-099
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Am I blind or weren't those posted yet?
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>>135843581
thanks, emperor protects
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>>135843581

I actually read the Chinese only used the repeating crossbows when defending in sieges and in actual battles used standard recurve crossbows they loaded by sitting down using their legs because the repeating crossbows had shit range
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>>135843674
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>>135843581
meme crossbow and retarded explosive barrels
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>>135843674
>>135843867

Where are you getting these

Also RIP morions I guess
>>
its a shame that alani early game is so boring, they have some amazing late tier cav, far superior to anything the huns and even the sassykids can field
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>>135843867
>>135843970
There are more coming yet, they're from Gamestar, seems like the full article was released from t
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>>135844000
but muh PUSH. BIG. TAN. CATAPHRACTS
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>>135843745
I know there's 2 adeptus mechanicus mods in development. Would've liked to see the one with the Thralls and Thallax Guard but this one is pretty good too, especially with the assault hypaspists.

>>135843823
That's pretty much true. The Chu Ko Nu was a shit weapon that was better off used in assassinating unarmored targets.
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>>135743650
I just started playing Shogun 2
(I used to play Medieval 2, dont judge you faggots)

Can you get a man of the hour promotion thing if a captain wins a battle like in M2?

Also how do I properly beat bitches in naval warfare?
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>>135843823
To make it actually possible to wind it back that fast, they had less range and fired a slightly lighter shot. To make up, they were basically bolt-action and had a magazine.
In actual battles they tended to have three-man squads of two xbows each where C would help B load while A fired and B fired while C helped A load.
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>>135844072
>>135843970
*from their app
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>>135844245
You can, but if you can't pay for him the event doesn't come back until a few turns later.
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>>135844253
It had much, much less power than a regular bow. It was basically only effective against unarmoured parts of the body.
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>>135844296
is that some qt vampire?
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>>135844245
>Can you get a man of the hour promotion thing if a captain wins a battle like in M2?
Yes, win a couple of battles with a stack with no general and you'll be able to promote one.

>Also how do I properly beat bitches in naval warfare?
Either go Christian and get Nanban ships or spam fire arrows on bow ships.
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>>135844296
And the special last one confirming a new unit

>>135844448
Yes :3
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>>135844412
Yeah I know. bolt action though, it's so cool
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>>135844072
Those ghosts better be able to waltz straight through walls.
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>>135844296
>Vampiress
>Wearing Isabella Von Carstein's awesome battle-dress

FUUUUUUUUUUUCKIN YESSSSS

Pre-ordered.
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>>135758451
>Im no weeb
>senpai
cmon son
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>>135844583
not historically accurate
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>tfw still no sign of Blood Knights
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>>135844296
>hot vampiress
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>>135844072
>one gate
>2 towers
We are HoMM now?
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>>135844896
Also Wonder what variety avg vampire count generals will have.
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>>135844896
>still no sign of tomb kings
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>>135845746
>no tower in the middle

There is still work to be done.
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>>135845941
Maybe next game buddy.
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>>135844521
Why is it ALWAYS germans that get their hands on this shit and get it leaked early?
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>>135846503
The Jews at SEGA playing nice
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>>135830595
>no sugarloaf
why live?
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Ok, just started as Charlieman. What's a good way to start? I'm always awful at early game.

I can't shed the blood of Saxon men if I'm dead now can I?
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>>135744370
roll
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>>135844296
I approve
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>>135846637
>>135846503
Jews probably don't want to piss off germans, probably remember the 30's and 40's too well.
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>>135847580
Chinks don't care about pissing off the nips and they remember nanjing and shit really well
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>>135844296
So is the beginning of waifuism reaching TW?
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>>135775469
I feel like only Skaven, Dwarves, Goblins, and Undead will be able to go there normally

Not necessarily, given how every attempt at cleansing a city of a Skaven infestation ends with having to go underground to smoke them out.

Empire, Chaos etc should be capable of going down there too.
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>>135846503
Germany is big vidya market.
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>>135848378
She's ugly as shit.
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>>135848378
We had a brush with that when they added that female commander to arena.
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>>135849282
Do people even play that?
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>>135849282
>arena
Is that good? Is it still alive? What is it even?
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>>135744008
Roll...
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>>135846082
>menwhile there is 10 years differences between games and blindy fanboys don't care and will support common degradation of Total War
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>>135847063
>What's a good way to start?

Start killing. Stop when everyone is ded. Create a desert and name it peace.
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>>135848754
It's just a bad angle.
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>>135844583
>Waltz through walls
>Leave weapons behind
>Now theyre ghosts
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>>135836524
Whats the difference...
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>>135851082
Arabs are from the Arabian pennisular and are a Semetic people, Turks from the center of the Eurasian landmass have have a distinct Indo-European language and culture from Arabs.
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do you know about any good mod for Shogun 2 that solves AI cheating? especially conversion of ashigaru units into samurai?
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>>135852176
>Semetic people
They're jews?
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>>135852176
>turks
>culture
You cant trick me mehmet.
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>>135778785
Trying to finish off the damn Seleucid and take my rightful place as the true successor kingdom.
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>>135852526
>All Semites are jews

Yeah, Carthaginians were jews too anon.
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>>135851481
Fresh off the boat from reddit, kid?
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>>135853047
The romans sure thought so :^)
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>>135852489
Isn't there "Yarkis reduced cheating" mod out there.
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>>135844072
>walls underground

this is some next level stupidity
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>>135853047
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To the anon who told me to read the City of God before bashing Christianity for somewhat leading to the fall of the Empire - not convinced, it depends entirely on your faith in Christ (muh eternal life muh sacrifice muh heaven) and argues for things that literally make no sense (God made you a great Empire, despite Jesus literally not existing at all for the first half and nobody giving a damn about him for the next hundred+ years when expansion was actually going on!) as well as spouting 'no u' all over the place (m-moral corruption was around during pagan times, but obviously not now! t-the pagan gods didn't save us from the gauls, so God didn't have to save us from the sack :D!)
He says nothing of worth throughout the whole fucking book, it's preaching and nothing else he makes no actual arguments.
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>>135846503

Germans are big on PC gaming, the others are slavs but slavs don't buy shit they steal so it's pointless to market to them
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>>135853209
thanks but it's nowhere to be found... i have already tried darth mod and TROM3 but first one makes mess with unit sizes and the other one is awesome except that I am not able to make in-game encyclopedia to work so i never know what the hell am I building or how to get units I want
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>>135854360

I thought you like baseless arguments and biased propaganda since you were quoting Gibbon. I simply showed you the other side of the same coin.
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>>135855043
Was I quoting Gibbon? I don't remember, I think I was just listing off reasons that I've seen named before including ones commonly accepted.
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>>135744008
Yeh
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>>135854935
I'm on mobile, but I was talking about this. I don't know if the links this work though.
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?519382-Yarkis-Reduced-AI-Cheating-Mod
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>>135855194
Dammit reroll
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>>135855043
I read it too, it was literally so many pages of a christfag on damage control and making cringe-worthy argument deflections to completely off-topic tangents
I wasted a whole day of my life thanks to you

fuc u
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>>135855382
yes, I have found this, but there is no link for the file download or anything... thanks for the help anyway
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>>135855492

Just like Gibbon then, only from the other side of the no mans land.

I find that the best way for people stuck in their little circlejerk reading only shit that confirms their bias is to read equally baseless arguments from the other side.

Besides City of God is a very important book in the history of western philosophy just like The decline and fall of the western empire is an important book for the western historiography. Doesn't make them any less biased but they are good primary sources regardless to be read, analysed and criticised.
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>>135856136
I've literally never read Gibbon, stop accusing me of shit I didn't do, I read it because you said it in a way that led me to believe The City of God actually made a compelling argument for christianity doing good for / not causing the fall of the Empire, I had no opinion on the matter before
It's like saying that the best way for unironic /pol/ to remove themselves from the circlejerk is to get on tumblr's most cancerous liberal Bernie site or something.
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>>135851082
Two completely different ethnicities and cultures.
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>>135830595
Barbut because I want to see and ive been stabbed in the back of my neck and I didnt like it.
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>>135826619
>Not a full stack of dogs
Youre playing burgundy wrong
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>>135744370
roll
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>>135856458

Maybe I'm wrong in that assumption. It worked for me when I was stuck in my teen militant atheism and later in the white nationalist circles.

City of God is specific because the criticism it adresses is theological. People back then didn't accuse Christanity for sociopolitical reasons as they do now to justify their opinion that it caused the fall of the WRE. Back then it was mainly based on theological grounds that turning away from the roman gods caused their ire. This is the kind of people this book is written in response to and therefore it focuses on theology rather than secular matters.

Nevertheless you lost nothing by reading it. At the very least you've gained insight into a mind of one of the most famous philosophers of the late antiquity.

While I understand you might not want to follow my recommendation, his Confessions are of much greater historical value than City of God, which mainly interest philosophyfags like me. It is also considered to be one of the first autobiographies in the world.
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>>135853065
Been here since '11
What about you?
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Is Rome 2 fixed yet? Might download it
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>>135857448
I like philosophy, but I'm going to tell you that all it did was turn me against Christianity because in my view it didn't even accomplish its goal theologically. I'm not really a militant atheist, I have a christfag sister but I'm just 'meh god has a funny name' kind of person, not a believer but mostly because I can't be bothered to do all the things believers have to do.
That being said, I don't get why someone accusing Christianity of being sociopolitically bad for the Empire should be advised to read the City of God, since it doesn't actually address the relevant points. It was written to both shut pagans up and to console christians by telling them they didn't make the wrong choice by converting, i.e. it was preaching, not actually making the arguments relevant to today's people (for the most part). It's not even a matter of being well or poorly written, it just seems to completely miss the point if you're arguing against Gibbon who from a cursory skim of some summaries mentioned it as a destabilizing force on the political and organizational level, not the theological level.
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>>135858105
yeah it's fixed, but Attila is basically a direct upgrade and it's hard to go back so play it before Attila or not at all.
>>135857951
Why are the Triarii (?) before the principes
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Imo Sikhism is what Christianity could and should have been.
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>>135858268
OK, downloading Atilla plus all DLC now. What's the best faction for an Atilla noob.(played Shogun and Nap/Empire lots)
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>>135858623
Imo Roman Paganism is what Islam could and should have been.
AKA dead
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>>135858623

Sikhs are pretty based. Not going to lie.

>chill as fuck
>kind
>loves everyone
>dope turban

You can't lose.
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>>135857951
fix'd.
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>Living under the Eternal Blue Sky
>Not converting to Tengri

Remember, when you're struggling or the path ahead doesn't seem clear, just ask yourself; WWGD?
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>>135858629
Himyar and Axum have a nice easy campaign with multiple religion choices granting different late game units with different strats, especially chill now the white huns exist to fuck the sassanids in the ass.

Franks and langobards are fairly easy barbarians, langobards getting better events and probably the easier start. But fuck barbars, western europe is a shithole in attila.

Suebi are probably the easiest horde faction due to starting nearer Iberia with only a single stack to worry about managing unlike Goths and friends who start further east and chased by Huns. You also get some of the best, if not the actual best, heavy infantry late game.

Venedian slavs have the comfiest game in Attila imo with literally 0 downside farms, boosted farm income and the ability to turn barren wastelands into the garden of fucking eden. You then use your ridiculous food surplus to buy the huns off and have the most violent bodyguard in the game floating on your borders killing germanic shits for you.
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>>135858629

Franks
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Do you think we will ever get just a little more government mechanics? IE being able to change from a Kingdom to a Republic and so on.

Also I wish when you get a little more civilized in AoC you'd lose the barbar "FUHR THE TRIHBUH" shit.
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>>135858629
Pirating it? Be warned that the Encyclo doesn't work with pirated copies and there may be stability issues that don't exist with the legit copy.
As a noob, the Franks are pretty good. If you want to be a horde, then Visigoths are easy.
>>135859675
Visigoths and Ostrogoths are simple though.
Venedians are too hard for a noob, the poison arrows can kill your own army and their start is horrible.
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when's the fucking medieval mod for attila coming out
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>>135844296
What's that thing in the bottom left of the image? The thing that looks like two poles connected with Rope?
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>>135860154
Goths are a trap for a newbie, you start off being spitroast by the huns and a roman empire of your choosing who will both follow you across the entire map due to AI player hate, and managing multiple hordes when you've never touched hordes before is rough. They're easy once you know what you're doing but frustrating as fuck when you don't. And if you're stupid enough to shoot poison arrows into the back of your own men you really have no business playing total war in the first place.
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>>135844296
>that little piece of leg
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>>135858881
Agreed, Abrahamic religions truly are absolutely terrible.
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>>135860917
No, but a single arrow hitting your own men by accident will kill basically the entire unit and Venedians, like all slavs have a highly unbalanced roster.
I did say 'if you want to try a horde', they're probably the easiest of the hordes. I don't really like Suebians.
>>
>All men must serve

really, CA?
>>
What happened to the pilla?
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>>135861606
>sailors have such rough hands

really, CA?
>>
>>135861134
Suebi start is definitely easier though, you start in the middle of gaul away from all the WRE armies who're on the borders chasing goths and other assorted germanics and have a clean path into Iberia with like 4 factions you can liberate on the way down to act as buffer states and eventual trade partners when you settle.

I do have a soft spot for the Suebi since R2, they were by far my favourite faction there. But each to their own.

You make a point about the slav roster being spotty, their campaign gameplay is just so cozy following the huns and rebuilding the ruined east. Probably right about them being a bit too unfriendly though.
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>>135860249
Could be a Crypt Horror or a Ghoul
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>>135861606
>take it with a little Grace!

Really, CA?
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>>135775596
>we wuz kings

i just notice that. kek.
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>>135859137
Thank you, that disturbed me.
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>ahh Rome, the eternal city...
the trailers for Attila might not be as good as the ones for R2, but the intro is great
>>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

Fug my ethnic group is actually pretty high on the list, I should move to the US
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>>135858629
Rome DEMANDS victory from her generals!
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>>135864040
why the fug would you look up something like that?
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>>135864408

Was arguing with some guy that said whites were the richest people in the US and I remembered something about them not even being second richest so I looked it up
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>>135864040
Wrong board, and especially wrong thread.
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>>135835740

>britain
>being in charge of Ottoman destruction

Cockroach britain is literally the only reason Constantinople wasn't retaken by Christendom.

>>135852176

ffs, Turks aren't Indo-European. Culturally, Indo-European doesn't mean jack shit after 6000 years of divergence (so it doesn't even matter that Turkish culture is a mix of Persian and Greek), and linguistically Turkish is, well, Turkic. Not related to Indo-European at all.
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>The last Roman
>I feel like Im doing well
>Look up the dates for when the conquest of the Vandals was finished in reality
>Mfw Im actually running late
And now Im sad
>>
>>135861109

>Agreed, Abrahamic religions truly are absolutely terrible.

And yet every thread there are half a dozen faggots jerking off to spreading Christianity in my glorious, pure Nipland.

Based Tokugawa knew where to tell the gaijin to stick it.
>>
>>135866568
they are dumbfucks who forget that glorious western civilization is largely based off disregarding the shitty parts of christianity.
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>>135866320
At least you're not experiencing the suffering that is being The Last Cuck.
>>
>>135866320

Don't feel bad that you're being a shitty villain.

Justinian and Belisarius (for carrying out his orders) ruined the Western Mediterranean for literally nothing but bragging rights and muh imperium.
>>
>>135866824
>last
All of Byzantium got cucked by roaches.
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>>135866997
crusaders actually, roaches just finished them off, more of a mercy killing at that point
>>
How the fuck can I see what's causing my public order to be rock bottom in attila
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>>135867186
You need to git gud

Hover over the public order smiley in the settlement menu and it'll show a breakdown of what's affecting your public order
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how long until another campaign walkthrough for warhammer?

how long until they stop using FUCKING SCRIPTED AI?
>>
So out of all the total war games, which grand campaign was the most one sided?

My vote is the Teutonic campaign. Just WHO exactly is supposed to stand up to the Teutonic knights?
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>>135867146
Some byzantinian nobles wanted them there tho, you could say its due to infighting in the end.
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>>135867710
There's about 2 months (fuck was almost 1 month until the delay) until it releases.

The way i see it we'll have 6 more weeks of reveals and then 2 weeks of youtube reviews and then the release. I don't know if its actually 8 weeks or not I'm just speculating.

but here's what we need

Vampire count campaign walk through
Gelts amulet of sea gold lets play (I really hope they stop spoilering quest battles, and just show regular battle ai)

so that's two weeks of reveals right there.

then possibly one siege
maybe some chaos reveal
>>
>>135868417
Who, the Crusaders or the Turks?
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>>135868435
We need a siege above all else.
"1wall1gate is perfectly fine" faggots need to get BTFOed.
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>people unironically using roach to referring to turks

Literally internet lingo spread by russian shills lol
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Am I retarded or is this faction's initial challenge not actually easy?

>at war with 2 people right off the bat
>no one will trade with you, NO ONE
>your tributary will attack you for sure
>can't move out to attack anyone or people fuck your shit up with impunity

FUCK
>>
>>135869249

Yeah, Lombards are also super easy

The starting difficulty is off for AOC
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>>135869212
>russians invented the turkroach meme
Nice falseflag attempt, turkroach.
>>
>>135869212

Even if you didn't make that up, why would I give a shit if it fits anyway?
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>>135869557

They didn't? I dunno I've started seeing it only after they got one of their paper planes blown the fuck out of the sky
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>>135869668
Started seeing it where exactly? How do you know it was actually the russians and not falseflagging?
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>>135869651

Because you're furthering the political agenda of a country that wants nothing but expand west?

>>135869959

>Started seeing it where exactly?

Anywhere? At all?

>How do you know it was actually the russians and not falseflagging?

Because the west already knows that ruskies are not to be trusted? Why would they need to falseflag?
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>>135870187

You know who wanted to expand west too?

The fucking Turks.

What does hating Turks have to do with Russia's plans for expansion into Western Europe anyway? I sure as shit won't care if they expand into Turkey.
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>>135870415

I care if they expand into Turkey, actually I care if they expand anywhere that isn't east of their position.

They should stay in their steppe and tundras where they belong.
>>
>>135869249
It's pretty easy, you just need to get the Welsh under control early on.

Get your armies raiding in enemy territory from turn one to generate more cash and be aggressive.
>>
>>135870187
Literally who cares, it's not like insulting the turks somehow strengthens to russians, turks are really fucking hateable anyway but damn kebabs are good
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>>135870415
>>135870187
What the fuck are you idiots even talking about
just answer my damn question.
>>135869023
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>>135870637
Good thing we dont care that you care. If we want something - we come and take it, like Crimea. Nothing you can do about that.
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>>135870842

if I remember correctly there was some dick byzantine noble/general who wanted to rule Constantinople

so who coerced the crusaders from the 5th or 6th or whatever the fuck crusade it was to come shit on the byzantines.

and then the crusader stayed there for a time shitting all over the streets until the byzantines cleared them out.

tldr jews did it.
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>>135870712

I understand, I was just making fun of people literally falling into russian neo propaganda methods, you skew public opinion towards you so as to make a casus belli easier to accept.

>>135870956

Yeah yeah Ivan whatever you say.
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>tfw EB2 still not anounced
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>>135871151
>yeah, whateva
Epic retort, comrade.
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>>135837627
Who's he?
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>>135871129
It was the doge of Venice. The Romans owed them money, and he wanted to expand Venice's power in the mediterranean, so he payed off what would've been the 4th Crusade and had them sack Constantinople when the Romans couldn't pay. Then the crusaders ended up squatting there for a while, before being thrown out again.
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New

>>135872496
>>135872496
>>135872496
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>>135871267
Whatever happened to the Roma Re...Roma Surr... those guys that made RS2?
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>>135870956
easy to act tough when all you do is bully a weak as shit nation on your border, try that with a NATO member, and we will see how you "take what you want"
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