/twg/ - Total War General

1st for tendies.

Reply or ur mother dies tomorrow

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3rd for rolls

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felis catus

>>135872783
Mommy pls no.

Whats the most fun horde faction in Attila?

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Where are the tendies?

>>135872842
няшный кoтик :3

>>135872880

Tanooki

>>135872783
no

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Threadly reminder that Total War has waifus now.

>>135872839
Anyone here ever actually finish a DEI campaign as Rome? I tried not too long ago but kept giving up. I think I'd rather wait for AE in Attila.

>>135873027
Advisor-chan is cuter.

>>135873027
we had them when daughters of mars was released.

Anyone have that pic of that femgladiator stepping on someone's crotch with her boot?

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>>135872880
tanuhkids
>>135873027
does the empire have female wizards?

>>135872880
Tanukhids.

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>>135872916

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>>135872880

Huns

>>135872496

Death now my master;
cold as stone upon the field;
I fall like blossom.
-Japanese Death Poem

>>135873196
rollan

>>135873270
how did the 1 guy die

What fantasy universe does /twg/ want to see after CA is done with warhammer TW?

Personally I would want a Warcraft one as well.
pls no bully

>>135873390
middle earth

>>135873390
lotr

duh

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>>135872839

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>>135872685

>>135873270
I was thinking about doing huns just so I never have to settle anywhere can can just destroy everything. It will be a nice reprieve from dealing with public order all the time.

>>135873390
They are all shit and not suited for TW despite of what their autistic fans will claim.

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>>135873390

Map and ethnic distribution of the real world, but with Age of Mythology shit all up in it.

>>135873365
Probably killed by a friendly archer.

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So I got Attila.

Okay I'm 50 turns in and this game is so goddamn hard.

I never have enough money to build more than 1 and 1/2 stacks and as soon as I pull them out of my settlements my public order tanks.

Not to mention my money is teetering on bankruptcy after every turn.

Seriously, what must I goddamn do???

Playing as Franks btw.

>>135873183
>femgladiator stepping on someone's crotch with her boot?

I would also like to see this.

>>135873365
They expect one of us in the wreckage

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>>135873390

Witcher

>>135873775
>besiege a town
>"The fire rises"
Based CA

>>135873597
Tanukhids are better for that. Their hordes are overpowered as fuck. They gain population rapidly from victories so they can shit out new h

>>135872783 (You)

>>135872496

>changing slavic master race culture to slavic tribes

spotted the turkroach.

>>135873741

Keep playing, hover over anything, use the tools you are given like the tabs and the filters on the maps, governors, promotions, agents and such

>>135873390
not realy fantasy, but I would like to see a total war about the biblic people. Like the Kingdom of David, the Giants and stuffs

>>135872783
hwy?

>>135873741
Your first mistake was playing as Franks.

>>135873741
Don't focus so much on stacks. Focus on economy and stability, then go for an army. Until then just be on the defensive. Perhaps raid some fools for extra cash.

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I made this for EB2 Shitposter and Tombkings shitposter
Its supposed to be a skelly in roman armour

>>135873390

either LOTR

or age of mythology type shit.

>>135873741
You bee yourself and build public order buildings and convert settlements to your religion.

>>135873196
its been a while since i rolled

>>135874386
yeah i see that

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>>135873390
I want them to make a new engine that can handle modern warfare (WW1 and onwards) and then make a 40k game.

>>135873741
How? just take all of frisia and belgica and build up for a while. Strike when you can when you have the advantage. Don't take unneccesary risks with your armies early game.

This is my first playthrough too. 99 turns in and im making at over 5k per turn with 3 and a half stacks on the map.

>>135873836
THIS, that would be so great.

Who /Nilfgaard/ here?

>>135874554
I want them to not do that

>>135874554
post more imperial propaganda posters.

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>>135874579
pic related

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>He won't be fielding an army of 90% Black Coaches.
>He won't destroy his enemies through the power of heavy traffic.

>>135874650
You are so goddamn wrong that I'm a little bit frightened.

>>135874554
It would need battles similar to Wargame.

I could dig it.

It still wouldn't properly portray warfare though, isolated battle events dont occur nowadays, and they cant exactly make the battle map 50 miles wide and last days.

>>135874579
As ERE I was completely fine with 4 stacks, why do you need so many armies?
Your income is complete garbage for turn 99

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>>135874682
Yeah CA would fuck it up. But TW WW1 would be fucking amazing if they could ever pull it off.

>>135875027
ERE at 99 turns in is going to have a fuckload more income than the Franks at that point. 5k isnt bad.

>>135874810
Enjoy the hun-rape with such a broad front.

also
>nordicks still exist
>letting Britannia unite like that

And Britain in Spain made me kek.

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So is Empire Total War shit? Every time I try to play the units seem unresponsive and it's just a slow grinding cluster fuck. I felt like I got better gunpowder fighting from Shogun 2 and Medieval 2 compared to Empire.

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Just got Attila lads.

Which factions should I play first?

>>135875239
And it will have a much bigger area to defend and Hordes roaming in its area.

>>135875069

They could go the Vicky 2 route.

1836 - Post-Napoleon. Industrialization, Global Empires

to 1936 - The Great War and scramble for Africa ending with rise of national socialism in Germany (if it still exists).

>>135875515
Huns

>>135875515
WRE or saxons or ostrogoths out of vanilla factions

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>>135875515

>>135875657
Did you just deliberately state the hardest factions to play?

>>135875282
I'm just hoping the langobards and alamans absorb most of the damage desu. I have alliances with them and they've been really useful guarding my eastern front and even putting down rebellions for me. The viking factions were all pretty bro-tier too but I'm going to out the jutes soon enough and the geats will probably want war at that point too.

>>135875426
Yes its universally known to be bad.
Get NTW for that type of warfare

>>135875515
Garamantians

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>>135875515

Franks

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The hardest question of all.

Do I get Radious?
for Attila

>>135875561
Yeah that would be pretty cool, too bad it would require the budget of a triple A title and actually skilled devs to not suck.

>>135875859
NTW has the same kind of issues. Plus the map is 60% smaller.

>>135874856
Thats like your opinion dude.

>>135876016
Yeah

>>135876016
>don't go where I can't follow.
Sam was the best of them all.

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>>135876016

>>135875515

Go full man mode

Western Roman Empire.

Save it all.

>>135876023
>NTW has the same kind of issues

NTW beats Empire for the simple fact it runs better, has tighter controls and decent variety of units. Plus it has some neat campaigns.

>>135876016

There have been numerous undisputable masterpieces in total war modding, such as the strikingly realistic classic Europa Barbarorum or its medieval counterpart Stainless Steel. Radious mod will not join their ranks; its surface is too generic, its presentation too provocative and its messages too obscure. Its take on the abysmal is an illumination in one person’s despair, but a paroxysm of another’s perversion. It will remain underground – treasured by the most avant-garde among intellectuals for its edifying if horrifying insight into the fundaments of human morality. Philistines and self-proclaimed critics alike will shun Radious mod, but you can’t fault them for that. It takes wisdom to appreciate its subtleties, and courage to side with the unpopular opinion. Sed domi maneas paresque nobis novem continuas fututiones.

Superficially, Radious mod appears to be a mod which caters to the most proletarian among men; aloof critics dismiss it as such often without a second thought. As complacent as these self-proclaimed "understanders of strategy" are, they fail to realize that Radious mod is a cult classic, a chef d'oeuvrea buried under false preconceptions and unfounded criticism. This gem is hidden because it does not shine; it is buried because its tone is that of abyssal black. Radious mod pries into to the darkest corners of our subconscious, the most visceral of our cognition, the most carnal of our urges, and the most primal of our instincts.

As brilliantly put by Cattalus, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"; to describe the artistic qualia of Radious mod would be to describe music to the deaf, color to the blind or beauty to the philistine. The painting speaks for itself, and it is up to the player to fully absorb its depth. Its sublimity will ever be debated yet always remain objectively irrefutable; the fundamental insight it provides into human and perhaps animalistic nature may shape the basis of Total War modding for centuries to come.

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What if units were more mercurial. Individual soldiers could break off to go where they wanted to fight or flee. Training, morale, and integrity would affect their ability to stay together. You could reabsorb your units/they wouldn't count as losses/etc. That would probably pave the way for more modern settings while allowing older settings to work.

>Have too much influence and control
>Too much corruption
>I don't care about the loyalty since most of my generals are extremely loyal
>decide to shed influence to get back to blanced
>Embezzling funds like crazy
>it works


Its only afterwards that i realized that i basically embezzeled tons of money in order to fight off corruption.

>>135876345
I tried to do this but the first turn overwhelmed me. I decided to do Franks first, then I'll try the huns, then WRE or ERE.

>>135876354
Yeah sure it runs better and was optimized in other aspects but the core gameplay is still the same shit empire was.

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Bringing the heat

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Does Attila come back if you assassinate him? I know that if you kill him in battle he apparently just runs away and makes a new stack, but I assassinated and only wounded him but then got an achievement for killing him.

>>135876508
Just outcorrupt the corruption.

>>135876674
They can't steal money if i steal it before them

BRILLIANT

>>135876016
I wish someone would answer this genuinely instead of memeing

>>135876571

>still the same shit empire was

What more do you want?

I think it's very faithful to the combat of the era.

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>Killed both their generals
>1 of my general dies
>entire army flees
what the fug

>>135876764

No

>>135876835
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naQaRIaXyAU

>>135876764
Getradioust+doubled upkeep submod+BCAI mod
and wait for FotE/AE/MK

>>135875515

Visigoths

Huns a shit, couldn't even take Rome.

>>135876835
Functioning AI, to start.

>>135876907
Why make the AI good when you can make the player's units sit.

>>135876671

Attila only comes back once. You can kill him, he'll respawn with a full stack. Down him again and he's down for the count.

>>135877479
What about assassination?

>>135877931

I think you can assassinate him

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>>135876907
A lot of Roman troops are disciplined, their general being killed doesn't effect their morale as much, where as your disgusting barbar rabble isn't.

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fuck wurrzag.

>>135878189
Actually I think if a unit has discipline they don't lose any moral at all if the general dies

>>135878338

Brettonia confirmed playable?

>>135878086
That's what I'm saying I did. When I looked at the chances the odds of killing him were zero so I could only wound him, but I don't know if that counts as a respawn death or permanent death because I got an achievement for killing him the next turn.

I guess I'm asking if that only fires if you just "kill" him or if you permanently kill him.

>>135875561

global victoria would be far, far too large to do credibly

my ideal for tw is Africa 1876-1904

>Euro great powers + Boer states, Zulu, Abyssinia, Mahdists playable
>Euros have more guns, better troops etc but their manpower is limited and actions are partially restricted/directed by home governments (which give missions etc as well), and need techs to mitigate attrition as they move deeper into the interior
>Euros need to build infrastructure or follow rivers to maintain supply chains inland
>Africans have limited industry and tech but more manpower and no attrition
>lategame challenge comes from the Great War, which triggers when the entire map of Africa is filled in

>>135876907
Your troops don't have the 'Disciplined' trait which stops them fleeing when the general dies. The Romans do.

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>>135878451
no.

>>135878451
Day 1 paid DLC

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>>135878338

D A W I
A
W
I

>>135878412
Yeah you're right.

>>135878565
I wouldn't be surprised if a game focusing entirely on the scramble for Africa would be a tad too controversial for CA to even consider.

>>135878620
That image makes no sense.

>>135878980

yeah, I'm not super hopeful they'll ever do it, but I think it'd be the best setting for another gun TW.

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>>135879676

>>135878565
Playing as natives would be a real rewarding challenge.

The player could still win assuming unit sizes are much larger than the colonists and with actual strategy.

>>135872783
No mum

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>>135879729
It'd be good though it should include India, the middle eats and China. Opium wars/Khartoum/thuggees were too epic to miss out.

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>>135871267
What the fuck are you smoking, it's out and it's good

>>135879953
That doesn't make any sense.

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>>135880839

>>135880501
Already a mod out for it but it's not translated

>>135879729
Yeah, I would like a game based on the American civil war. The same controversy still applies. Imagine the headlines:
"New AAA strategy game supports racism"
"CA to release a game where you can commit genocide in Africa"
"Millions triggered by white supremacist confederate sympathizing RTS"
"BLM picketing Creative Assembly headquarters"

Just look at all the shit surrounding historical games that featured the Confederate flag.

>>135872783
>135872783
.

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Catholicism was a mistake

>>135880835
>good

>>135881026
None of these make sense anon.

>>135881473
Actually I understood the last one.

>>135881392
Not him but it is, my nabatean campaign is going well

>>135874579
>5k a turn
>99 turns
you should be making over 15k by then m8

>>135881290
Is... France a single province? Is Spain a single province?

What the fuck.

>>135882907
:^)

>>135882907
I never understood this argument.

Sure they're single provinces but they're fairly large and it makes it easier for one army to protect them so that their main focus can be in naval battles for trade routes or the new world.

its empire. its about building empires, not europe.

I don't get this europe map meme. so many games have huge maps of europe. Europe is boring its played out. give ups colonization and empire building.

>>135876481
Actually thats a pretty cool idea to have guys slowly breaking off from a unit and fleeing when they are lossing then the whole unit shattering at once.

>>135883238
Dude

you can literally take all of france or spain after like 10 turns with an autoresolve battle

>>135883406
yes, its called cheesing the system.
CA fucked up their execution big time.

>>135883406
And you can literally take all of Turkey in one autoresolve battle, what's your point.

>>135883643
that its a terrible system to have an entire nation as one city

>>135881290

What year is this. Why aren't Hindus already past iran and blobbing into Ottomans and russia like in every Empire game?

>>135883901
Well, you can either have a whole world, but with single city nations, or nations with multiple provinces but a much smaller world map.

>>135875902
Rolling for Oda

>>135884572
Reroll

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First person to get a 3,6,or 9 chooses the nation I play through as.

>>135884803
Germans

>>135884803
The Byzantines.

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>mfw playing Attila after Rome II

There's a lot of people saying that this game is SO much better than Rome II, but I can't see much difference t b h. They even have the same voices.

>>135884803
Egyptians

>>135884803
The Italians.

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So, is Call of Warhammer worth downloading? I heard it has some balancing issues, but I think I'll give it a go anyway.

>>135884803
hon hon hon

>>135884952
>mfw playing Rome 2 after Attila
I definitely notice the difference. Units just feel clunkier in Rome 2 than attila; the cavalry dont move as well, it feels more like sloshing than advancing.
Just my thoughts though

>>135884803
The TRUE ROMANS (Byzantines).

>>135884803
English

>>135884803
English

>>135884803
Vikings obviously.

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>>135885416
brit bongs it is. I am going to go for wales first

>>135885687
Do you like sex? I love Wessex.

>>135885687
Nice, been awhile since I've seen a M1 campaign. Last time I saw one was when Gook did his Scots campaign

>>135885687
Is this med1?

>>135885824
Yup

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European cannons send the japs to heaven

>>135884139
They are coming.

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>>135885687
What we have done so far:
- Built up the existing provinces a bit
- built up a small army in mercia (now in wales)
- hired some mercenaries


The army arrayed against the welsh is the following:

3 royal guards
2 urban militia
1 peasant
1 archers
1 mangonel
1 mounted crossbowmen

Bit down on money but its to be expected

Hard mode

Is the AI in Attila supposed to be this cooperative? I have a block of defensive alliances in Scandinavia and parts of Europe. The factions are all on good terms with each other. Are they ever going to turn on me?

>>135883272

I just want experience in battle to be more important.

It's fucking stupid that experience counts for so little, and that the best way to get triple-gold units is to stack research and buildings and edicts and character traits, instead of actual battle.

Experience should work like this:

Shit-tier (negative bronze chevrons):
You rounded up some peasants and gave them a few sticks. They really just want to go home and check on the crops and make sure the village priest isn't fucking their wives. They have shit combat ability, shit cohesion, and rout ridiculously easily.

Basic normal tier (0 to 3 bronze chevrons):
The men have received some basic training. They're still going to be scared as fuck going into their first battle, but no worse than any other man in his first ordeal. Normal units can never get above this level without seeing combat - nobles and well-drilled Roman regulars can get up to the first silver chevron.

Veterans (silver chevrons):
The men have seen and lived through combat. This should be a really important milestone - they should be a lot more resistant to morale shocks, and their combat skills should increase somewhat (because they've seen the kind of shit you can't train for).

Balance-wise, they should behave like vanilla Attila units, with lower-exp units just being a lot quicker to break than they are now.

Elites (gold chevrons):
The best of the best of the best. Units that reach this level of experience should be very difficult to break, and receive the same kind of buffs that pre-built elite units get now. The highest level should always fight to the death, similar to Napoleon's Imperial Guard.

cont.

>>135886570
Yes. As you build up Imperium, they will start to hate you more.

>>135886570
fucking with the WRE gets you in good with most barbars

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>>135886730
>level up peasants to gold chevrons in Rome 1
>slaughter fucking mid-tier troops like nobody's business

Always imagined these crazy fucks with just a knife and pitchforks vaulting over shields and stabbing people in the carotids

>>135886730
Thats just stupid. The experience is on the unit, not the type of unit it is.

>>135887148
How is combat in this game? Is it too clunky, or not?

>>135886570

If you get the mod that turns off Imperium, nope.

I did and I had the entirety of Germania together along with West Roman Separatists, Hispania and Septimania like some sort of Bizzaro UN

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>>135887148

>>135887164
sauce?

>>135887405
They are surrounded, not too long now....

>>135887254
The camera is really weird, you left click instead of right click. It's playable though

>>135886730

More crunch:

Levy units by default start at -3 experience, regulars at 0, nobles at 4 (first silver chevron). EXP-increasing effects should/will be rarer and more valuable, because each chevron is now much more important, and you really want to make sure that your newly recruited armies can hold their own.

Ideally, upgrading to higher tiers would require units to reach a certain level of experience. I.E. even if you've researched the next tier of spearmen, you're stuck with levies unless you have a good training infrastructure, or send those levies to battle.

Battle should drastically increase chevrons. The first sizable battle should bring you up to 3/4. Every two sizable battles should give you another silver or gold chevron, so that you only need ~12 battles to be the elite of the elite (and think about it - how often do you actually see 12 big battles with a single unit?). Possibly you should get exp even faster, because you're likely to lose some from casualties.

Just being in battle should be enough to get silver chevrons, but you should have to take part in actual combat to progress into gold. Ideally there would be a formula to assign experience, that increases it for seeing real combat, and for being in even/difficult battles (because the men who survive will have seen some shit and know they can come out alive).

tl;dr make experience way more important, and make it actually fucking reflect the experience of our units in battle. An army of greenhorns should be easily routed by my hardened army of FEARSOME SPEARMEN who have been fighting their way across Europe for 10 years.

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>>135887596
forgot image

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>>135887886
wales is conquered

>>135887880
i have always wanted a rebel faction kinda spartacus style, I would think of it like this. Pick a faction you spawn as a rebel army with like 3-4 decent high/mid tier units, then every time you raid or shit you get some trash units but if they rank up they get better gear and items from whoever they defeat, tahuks are kinda close but its still not enough

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>>135888123
Now we invade scotland, we now have turkoman archers

We also got a royal marriage with France and are in the process of marrying the germans with any luck

>>135885182
DL 1.5.1

1.6 beta is a mess

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>>135887441
Forgot where I found it, I just remember it being a comedy war movie

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>>135888554
rekt

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>>135888771
Nevermind, found sauce

>>135887441
4 u

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Floating_Castle

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>>135889406
SHIT

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>>135888662

>>135889738
Fockin wee neds

>>135878338
Grimgor!

>>135889449
Post results faggot

>>135878338
roll

>>135889449
>506 AM
Are you russian or something?

>tfw the only factions ina ttila that get access to composite bowmen are the sassanids, ERE, lakhmids, huns, and white huns

why the fuck don't himyar or tanukhids get access to shit like Kurdish archers?

>>135892548
>ERE
WRE you mean?

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>>135874386
I hope you like my edit, sempai.

please notice me, tomb kings-kun...

>>135892548
>>135892647
I misread, don't mind me.

>>135892430

>+6

R A R E
A
R
E

Timezone. He's from Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Buthan or Bangladesh. My money is on russia or Kazakhstan.

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>>135892760
Fuck off.

>tfw hooked on the guild 2

help it's almost 1AM and I've been managing a smithy and fighting off highwaymen for the past 5 hours

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>>135892851
>>135892430
>mfw comradeposter last thread was an actual comrade

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>>135892986

>>135893047
its alright anon.
Play as pontus

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>>135893274

>>135892430
Lithuania

ad astra when lads

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>>135891807
Close defeat :(

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Is this normal?

>>135893839
Never.

>>135894139
;_;

>>135894134
Yes.

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>>135894134

wait that can actually happen?

I honestly have never seen that occur.

>>135892906
I dont even care about tomb kings, I just felt like making some oc.

>>135894134
You let an AI beat you to Kyoto?

>>135894416
What is happening in that picture

>>135889738
Havent played that game in over a decade and I still hear that angry shouting when I see that image

>>135885687
That map both looks leagues better than the modern ones and probably doesn't stutter either.

>>135895458
A burger is melting and going nuclear

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ROLLIN' FOR FACTION tomorrow

0 Qing Fucking Shits
1 Mongol Fucking Shits
2 Based Huai Army
3 Xiang Army Fucking Shits
4 Taiping Shitters
5 Shogunate
6 Imperials
7 Great Britain
8 Frogs
9 Russians

>>135894792
>>135895767
Meant for you

>>135895941
>sigh of an empire 2
Hey it's a chinamod.
fuck Qing

>>135872839
what if you roll 00?

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>>135895941
GODDAMN MONGORIANS
SHIT FUCKING TERRITORIES

I feel tired already.
Yup, fuck this I'm watching Daredevil S2

>>135896061

>fuck Qing
I'm okay with that statement

>>135896378
dubs=reroll

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>>135894658
>AI beats you to Kyoto

>>135874185
>not realy fantasy, but I would like to see a total war about the biblic people
>not realy fantasy
wut?

>>135897498
>jews are fantasy

>>135894134
Yeah that won't happen in my Otomo campaign
>control most of Kyushu
>vassalized half of the Honshu west of Kyoto (other half was my ally that didn't want to help me in a war against Tokugawa, Date, and Onodera)
>currently vassalizing all of Shikoku, and Kii Penninsula
I basically have the Ashikaga surrounded, but I'm distracted by a bunch of wars, and the Shogunate has 4-6 stacks in three territories, so going after them will take alot of manpower

>>135897643
>giant palestinians that get noscoped by jews with rocks are real

>>135897643
>splitting the ocean
>real

>>135898076
Do you not know what a sling is?
I mean, clearly most of the bible is fantasy, but thats one of the few pieces that actually could have happened...

>>135897920

cheeki breeki v damke

>>135898526
>giant

>>135897707
Hey, if I play Otomo can I force my vassal somehow to adopt Christianity so I won't half to deal with the religion penalty? If I missionary nuke them into rebellion and then conquer and vassalize them will they automatically be Christian?

>Charlieman for the first time
>Instantly attacked by two armies
>At war on all fronts
>Mission comes in to destroy my brother

Look I don't think I have the time, game. I WISH I had the time.

Fuck me, any early game advice? War weariness up the ass right now.

Tech illiterate here.

If my PC runs Attila mostly stutter free on High can I assume that I'll be able to play Warhams without too many issues?

>>135899481
Probably

>>135899712
>>135899084
>>135898793
>>135898576

What the fuck am I even looking at?

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>>135899942

>>135899942

Some slav on TWC has a WIP mod which is basically Rome 2 on attila's engine. Those are screenshots from it.

>>135899942
Rome 2 in Attila

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>>135878338

>>135899481
designed for future hardware

>>135901252
>witch hunter
>not stabbing the witch while screaming "Die Witch Die"
wtf

>>135903532
Anon, they're in love.

>>135904547

Do you think love can bloom even on a battlefield?

>>135904746
>teclis realizes that human chicks find him attractive
pretty funny desu

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>>135904746
Only if you protect the smile.

>>135904746

Boy, when you're on those hot fields with your brothers, dripping with sweat from a hard day of training for the upcoming battle, it's hard not to find love. The smell, the dripping, the rock-hard bodies, anon it's to simply die for.

Soooo

"English" people are basically invaders who settled the land and slaughtered the native population? Or am I retarded.

>>135906743
multiply that by 4 and you're right.

>>135906743
First you had the bretons
Then you had bretonnian roman
Then you had saxons
A drop of danes
Followed by normans

>>135872783
Fuck off.

>>135907534
Then the Muslims

Do diseases end at some point or will they eventually wipe out entire armies?

Two of my armies right now have lost a full half of their men and they are still diseased.


help.

>>135872839
ayy

>>135906743
Assuming you're referring to the whole "anglo saxons genocided the native celt population" thing. Then yes you're retarded, they came over, established a new ruling class and fucked a lot of women yes, but genociding the natives would've been logistically impossible and economically retarded when you rely on the natives you plow your fields.

>>135907534
Kebab only pure race.
Worship kebab.

So I know warhammer looks good, but what do you guys think it will fall short on? I don't mean a total disaster, but just things you think will need to be improved.
I'm a bit upset there is no weather stuff, and I feel like the new campaign mechanics might be a bit bumpy. I'm also sure that the AI will be incompetent

>>135909021
Honestly the only reason I'm not going to buy it is because it just looks goofy and childish. I have a really hard time getting into fantasy settings like that.

>>135909021
I think that the monsters and flying creatures are going to be really weird and probably not behave well. I bet that the fact that they have to turn to engage one model at a time will look really strange.

>>135909556
What if they do sweeping attacks that are like melee artillery explosions and only engage heroes and other creatures in the combat dance?

>>135909021

Honestly? Lack of factions and diplomacy.

I'm not up together on my Warhammer Fantasy lore admittedly but mostly it seems pretty clear on the "What am bad man" scale.

I mean, as much as I'd love 40K for a TW game that's where I think it would fall down also. The Imperium would be wholly unwilling to negotiate with any alien race for instance.

I'd much rather see LoTR sometime, at least there we have various factions of men, elves etc.

>>135908374
Bump. I'm about to drop this goddamn game i'm so mad. After 15 turns it should be gone this is ridiculous.

>>135910432
there should be an icon or message that tells you how long it lasts.

>>135910432
Did you move them out of the diseased region?

Any idea when CA is going to drop their next articles, video or shit excuse for a cast?

>>135872783
fuq u fag

>>135910786
The troops themselves are diseased. Won't I just spread it around by moving them?

>>135911159
If you put them into a city yes they'll spread it but if you just leave them outside the cities I don't think they will.

>>135909952
I think there can be decent diplomacy throughout the minor factions.

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>>135911338
Wish I knew that earlier. Thanks.

>>135909952
>lotr
Why do people always suggest this, the entire series of books goes out of it's way to make battles entirely irrelevant and has them decided by lone heroics and deus ex machinas not strategy, diplomacy would be even more shallow and limited than FotS since literally everyone is split between good guys and bad guys with no side changing and you'd generally have to take liberties so astronomically huge to make it work you may as well just create an original fantasy setting from scratch.

>but muh third age
Takes all of those huge liberties and while it's a fine ass mod, probably the best M2 mod honestly, it's a fucking garbage representation of middle earth and would make tolkien turn in his grave.
LotR is a story about how even the smallest good can overcome tyranny and evil, not sweeping troop movements, cunning tactics and clever applications of force, literally every battle is written as a mindless smashing of faces into each other for exactly as long as it takes for plot to save the day

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Mighty european cannons will liberate japan

>>135911628
I'm not sure but I think they might spread it if they're close enough to reinforce the cities garrison so just keep em a little bit away from the city.

>>135911698
From what?
The Japanese?

>>135912405
The filthy heathens, of course!

>>135911656

Let's be honest here, LoTR isn't the greatest series of novels. It's the setting people love, I don't think people will get pissy.

>>135912405
Fucking gooks don't belong in Japan

>>135913104
It'd sure be fun for a while. I played the mod a little bit

Doesn't fit the TW format nearly as well as warhammer does though

What game and faction should I play twg?

>>135913104
And it's an awful one dimensional setting to set a war game in.

>>135913895
Rome: Total War: Alexander

Play as India.

>>135913895
Attila
Legendary
This is TW
WRE
Divine Victory

>>135909749
Hmm. That wouldn't be bad but I feel like it still might be awkward to see them attack, pause, move, attack, pause, and move. If they do nkockback melee attacks, they still need to lock a target.

>>135913895
Rome 2

Pontus

>>135911698
Liberate Japan from the Buddhists? Make Shinto the only religion in Japan? Good idea!

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RIP Otomo

What's the best horde faction in vanilla attila

>>135915379
ostrogoths or vandals

>>135915379
tanookies

>>135915379
Tanned nude kids.

>>135913895

Scipio in Arena...

oh wait, rip ;_;

asides from slavs and garamantians, has there been anything new added to attila?

>>135916279

They lowered the cost of colonising so it's actually viable now.

>Loot and Occupy

why would someone do this?

>>135916126
>Arena
???

>>135916126

Wait, Arena is dead? Did it even came out?

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>135913895
Rome 2 DeI
Play as Getae

>>135916463
if the buildings dont match your culture you might aswell.

also sends a message

>>135914687
What if their vs normie troops combat function like normal but their attacks happened to melee splash. They would then behave as normal melee combatants that just happen to keep finding new targets because they just happen to squash ten men infront of them at once.

>>135917148
it wouldn't be bad, I just think it wont be amazing. They'll function like elephants in rome or attila. with large sweep attacks. I just think it might look a bit awkward.

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Guise, guise

in Attila, does "adjacent regions/provinces" work across the sea?

>>135899236
build two armies full of mercs in the east to defend against the germanic scum. Slowly turn them into non mercs you should have no trouble eventually pushing back.
Meanwhile merge your two other armies and deal with the dutchies to the south.

>>135873196
Rawl

>>135873196
>>135872839
>>135875902
Do any of you want one of this for Med2, Med2Expansions or a Med2 mod?

What happens if one of my family members takes a Hunnic bride? Will it postpone the eventual rape? The Huns don't hate me at all yet.

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>>135916761
>Wake up
>Eat a full and healthy breakfast
>Post tomb kings pic
>Go to work
>Grab dinner on way back
>Post tomb kings pic
>Settle for bed
>Rinse repeat
You are one dedicated guy.

>>135909021
Factions indentity, remove moral system from undead, make normal necromancy etc.

>>135919968
why remove 'moral' from undead?
crumbling is done pretty well, better than the tabletop anon

>>135918235
No.

>>135920115
Even with islands?
ex Cyprus or Crete

Is it just me or is Atilla's and Rome 2's I worse than Shogun 2's, not in terms of appearance but in function?

I'm slightly biased in my hours of Shogun 2 vs Atilla but whenever I make the jump I still feel like going about things in Atilla works slower than it if it used Shogun 2's style of UI

>>135920031
>why remove 'moral' from undead?
Because it's undead, they don't care about flanks they don't care about tiredness after long march.
>better than the tabletop anon
I don't care, it's not straight adaptation of bad tabletop game.

>>135920337
Who gives a fuck.

>>135920339
Removing morale from undead would be way too advantageous. Youre asking to give them a super-buff.
Thats not going to happen and it shouldnt.

>>135918728
Anyone?

>>135916463
If you're going to demolish the buildings as soon as you occupy

>>135920202
Oh, let me correct that.

Adjacent regions? Yes.
Adjacent provinces? No.

>>135920339
alright so in the tabletop if the magics raising the undead are strained *(crumble) they just straight up die in mass, you might lose 3/4 of your force.

in total warhammer, they dont run they dont get tired, they just get their defenses lowered so they die at a faster rate.(crumble)
that's pretty fluffy as fuck. idk what your problem is anon

>>135888447

What would have been great for the migrators in Attila, is to start with a small core of men from your base tribe, but as you migrate across Europe and win battles, attract people from other tribes and form a hodge-podge. To make up for unit losses, you'd get a unit pool to replace every unit you lost, and eventually when you settle down, you unlock one or two unique units from each member of the barbar melting pot.

So, the Thracian falxmen that the Goths get would be available to any faction that spends time fighting in the southern Balkans, and if you fight non-hun horsefuckers you get some Sarmatian units (because people who had sworn allegiance to the enemy group will want to turn over to you).

>>135911656

>LotR is a story about how even the smallest good can overcome tyranny and evil, not sweeping troop movements, cunning tactics and clever applications of force, literally every battle is written as a mindless smashing of faces into each other for exactly as long as it takes for plot to save the day

LotR is a story by a nerdy philologist who wanted to create a modern equivalent of the old Germanic epic literature he sperged out over.

That's where the simplicity of battles comes from, Viking-age and later Germanic poets and saga-writers had no fucking idea how huge Migration Period wars were fought.

>>135872783
Fuck you faggot.

>>135923941

And actually, this means Attila is, in a way, the best Tolkien Total War module ever released.

If you want the Middle Earth experience without mods, load up as the Ostrogoths and resist the Huns as a settled kingdom in Eastern Europe.

>>135920339
>>135920885

You can balance them in other ways. I'd much prefer if they didn't have to worry about morale of crumbling at all, beyond the normal disadvantages to being surrounded.

They should fight to the last skeleton, unless my lord gets his shit fucked up, and I can't maintain the necromantic magic. Balance it out in other ways.

Has CA said anything about max army sizes? I can't see how they'll capture the scope of the Warhammer universe if the biggest stack of Orcs slamming against your walls is 20.

>>135923941
>>135923948
You guys are forgetting that most people that play these game and maybe even in this board are apparently shit at games.

More people prefer a game because of "muh X or Y not game mechanic"
People fucking prefer slow easy battles for some fucking reason.

>>135924523
I believe they went back on their choice to limit it to 20 units

>>135924523
Not to my knowledge but its still probably gonna be 20.