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Previous >>124242937
Hours since DW has fucked up: 56

>[Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnouji event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20151125.php
November 25 19:00 to December 11 13:59 JST
- Nobunaga is a free 4* event servant
- Ascension items are skulls from the shop (Check stock!)
- Milestone ladder awards extra Nobunaga copies:
http://pastebin.com/vx4ydHd4
- Use promo servants (see link) to gain more points
- The first Nobu copy you get is temporary, at 100k points it BECOMES PERMAMENT and keeps the exp you gave her
- Copies after that are for NP upgrade

>Farming guide
- 10 AP until you get all you want from that, basically skull and 5* CE
- Then 20 AP until you get skull, 5* CE and all ascensions mats you want
- Then 30 AP if you don't have medusa ce or/and need bowls (gives a mix of bowls and spiders)
- Or 40 AP if you have medusa ce
- 30 AP on average gives 2k hp, 40 AP on average gives around 3k hp

>[Honnouji limited event gatcha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for:
- 5* Okita souji (will be gone after event)
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Lancer cu and Mephistopheles
- 5* Gudaguda poster girl
- 4* Launch order!
- 3* Fate gudaguda order

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST
- Patch notes:
See>>123955664
>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#
Toaster version:
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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Clown is cute.
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xth for enemies of Gods and Men.
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xth for Best Saber.
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>>124284172
But that's not Siegfried
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Reminder that Shirou can fight at speeds exceeding Mach 10.
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>>124284303
I want this so much...But where's fat saber?
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>>124284208
Galantine > Balmug
Discuss.
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xth for powerlevels
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I love how the anti-jet retard has tried to start shit for like a day and he hasn't been sucessful. Guess jetfags are learning how to not get baited so easily?
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>>124284230
Reminder that this is how Achilles vs. EMIYA would go. Emiya is Saitama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czZ3Jv0LInE
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Who /MaxedNobu/ here
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>>124284423
I can't say really, but Siegfried is cuter
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>>124284303
>Okita pushing Mordred
this is too cute
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>>124282609
Slightly better.
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>>124284482
Wow in that pic it seems like Shirou and Archer are the same person
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>>124284482
>Emiya is Saitama
Bad choice of words.
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>>124284478
It's always been like this at this hour of the day. 2-3 hours until trigger-easy jetfags arrive.
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You know if Saber was as powerful in life as she is as a Servant why the fuck did she even need an army. Seems like a senseless loss of life to throw a couple of normalfag foot soldiers sandwiched between the monsters from the Round Table and their enemies.
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>>124284671
There was no jet shitposting for an entire day even though the autist was trying so hard to bait.
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Anyone tried buying cheap accounts from YJA and then selling for double to triple on reddit? That shit makes money.
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Every thread until Christianity dies
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is Mordred considered a saberface?
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>>124284756
Everybody had powerful people. One of them was her dragon-country uncle.
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>No 5*s
>First 10roll was shit
>Got Caesar after burning everything
>killme.jpg
>Went to church to play
>Single ticket
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>>124284860
>the one literal Saber clone
Why the fuck wouldn't she?
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>>124284860
>literal fucking clone of artoria

Take a wild guess.
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>>124284860
>Literally a clone of Arthur

gee what do you think
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>>124284820
None that I know of.
Wouldn't the market get saturated fairly quickly, though?
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>>124284905
>>124284927
>>124284935
How Fucking Rude!?
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>>124284894
What I mean is why the fuck would you even field armies of regular people when they're just going to be fodder trampled underneath the feet of the overpowered heroes battling each other.
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>>124284482
Why would Warc be surprised with a RM anyways, some of the DAA have them too right?
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>>124285004
If that was rude to you, you probably shouldn't be posting here.
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>>124285025
Because it's a RM filled with swords and she's wondering what kind of fucking mental issues a guy has to have to get an RM like that? Shit does this guy just really like swords or something?
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>>124285103
Maybe you should just learn some manners
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>>124284904
>not Okita
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>>124285024
War fought on different fronts? Most likely the powerful people will only comes when they want to/need to absolutely take this one region/almost lost/to counter yet another powerful people also.
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>>124285000
Some Tamano Okita + additional 5* sells for 50 on Reddit and can be bought for much less on YJA
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>>124285118
>Shit does this guy just really like swords
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>>124285374
>Saber's sword
Gets me every time.
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For fuck's sake, Petit Devil is the best CE for Tamamo but I never rolled that.

JUST
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>>124285503
>having petit devil at lv12 (666 atk)
Looks great.
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>got my fourth CE drop
If only I'm this lucky with the dango CE.
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>>124283965
A CUTE
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Newfig here. How comes my friend summoning isn't working?
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>>124285791
Roll your free daily FP single first.
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>>124285791
Do 1 single FP roll first. To fix it set your phone/emulator time to JST.
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>>124285675
>no drops for the dango CE
I feel your pain. At least this event is pretty generous, even if I only got two CEs.

I got Arashi from clearing E-5 as well, as last week's gacha rolls so it evens out.
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>>124284860
>Konoe Ototsugu: Mordred
Nope. Only Takeuchi does saberface. Just like Nero isn't really saberface despite being a saberclone.
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>>124285881
>>124285862

And it's normal to have summoned just shit, right?
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>>124286112
Very.
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>>124286112
Non-shit rolls are extremely rare.
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Nobunaga ja!
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>mfw I will never ever kill some niggas with Hassan
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>>124286451
What's her deal with all those skulls?
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>>124286603
She's edgy. We've all been at that age once
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>>124286603
Her title is The Demon King of the Sixth Heaven, so she needs to be edgy.
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Okita-san!
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>>124286692
Who is the edgiest servant?
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>>124286802
EMIYA, the guy is literally made from swords.
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>>124286692
Thanks for making me remember linkin park
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>>124286802
Vlad Extra
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>>124286727
>that sidebook
diamond dick
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>>124286957
>sidebook
Ayy
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>>124286957
Take a look at her rear also, it's kinda transparent.
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>>124286148
>>124286290

I pulled a three star archer, it's not bad. I guess if I should replace my Boudica with him, I am not ready to get rid of Shielder yet
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>>124286873
CRAWWWWWWWWLING
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>>124287004
i'm a retard ;_;
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>>124287026
>Replacing shielder

Just build a team that you enjoy for now, have 1 of each class. Dont forget to level up shielder, and do dailies for exp
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>>124287175
>level up shielder
What is this meme?
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>>124287026
You should starve your Mashu, she ain't worthy of having silver or gold exp card fed to her.
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>>124287271
Good stats and skills, 0 cost. Problem is that level cap
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>>124287175
I never want to replace my waifu.

what do I do with the trash servants I pulled?
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Reminder that you should spare your quartz for this qt.
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>>124287271
She's there to protect your berserker rush anon.
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>>124287512
Okita is a berserker?
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>>124287465
Why is she dressed like a slut? What kind of parent lets their child run around like that?
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>>124287271
>Not feeding your kouhai
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>>124287271
>he started playing after okeanos
>he thinks levelling is hard these days
It takes a single 40AP run amigo
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>>124287945
Why would I waste 40 AP on trash shielder?
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>>124286727

Still in dilemma to change my account to her. Guess i'll try 2AM memeroll for a change.
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>>124287983
>he thinks there is content in this game that he can use the 40AP on
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>>124287634
With as many crit stars as she generates, she might as well be with all of that crit damage.
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>>124286567
dostedt?
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>>124287271
She's actually saved my ass quite a few times in the early game. Of course, that won't happen if you're a lousy senpai who leaves her at level 1.
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>>124288372
git gud
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Neat, an NP upgrade
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>third CE drop
I don't know what to feel. It's like I'm using up my gacha luck.
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Rate my team.
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>>124288935
BlackSaber/10
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>>124288935
Account buyer/10
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>>124288935
UNRIVALED/10
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>>124288935
80/67
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Beautiful.
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>>124288935
Poorfag Achilles, UNRIVALED and King of Jobbers/10
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>>124288935
This shows me again that my Okita is just something lacking
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>>124289532
i don't get it
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Finally reached 1.5m. We did it guys.
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>>124289681
>no Fous
Fuck off
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I'm missing Gilgamesh, Drake, bunnies, Lily Medea and Euryale. What's the best team I could make to one click the enemy and not die?
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>>124289738
Kintoki, Herc, support Kintoki
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>>124287692
Her Master is the one who bought her clothes.
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>>124289738
Level 90 everything
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>>124284824
Good luck with that
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I wish I had the foresight to start farming pages on day 1, when the 40AP dungeons were total shit compared to now.
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Good no Astolfofags or Fake Mashu father's in sight. And I'll post this picture because I can.
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Can any Type Moon handle Saitama by himself/herself/itself?
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What class of servant do you guys feel they will offer for the Christmas event?
Although I doubt it will happen for Christmas. We really need more gold lancers. We have like 1.
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>>124289928
>need 1000 bowls for all the pages
Yeah, the amount needed is kinda ridiculous.
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>>124290087
Saitama is obviously Type-Earth
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>accidentally enter the wrong 40 ap without realizing
>again

Holy shit it's like I'm retroactively wasting apples on shit dailies
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>>124290203
It'll Rider, because Santa has magical reindeer and shits.
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Poor-Fellow Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon when?
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>>124290074
I'll impregnate her because I can.
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>>124290321
same here
I accidentally entered the saber 40 AP
I got a scale out of it so at least there's that
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>>124290370
It will be lancer cause jesus died to a spear.
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>>124290405
You can't impregnate anime.
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3 GIANT GOLDEN NOBUU
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>>124290657
More like 4.
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So when's the archer event
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>>124290582
But I can impregnate Mashu.
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>>124290657
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>>124290780
Just do 10 AP shithead
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>>124290780
Just the Archer daily holy shit, 3 is easy as fuck.
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>>124290780
>waiting for an archer event for 3 monuments
Also Archer event was a long time ago.
>>124290792
ANIME ISN'T REAL WHICH MEANS WAIFUS ARNT REAL
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>>124290245
>one run of 20AP gave me 18 bowls
>~100 bowls per apple
>~250 bowls per full day of AP regen

M-maybe I'll just wait with Tamamo's final skillups until pages become farmable.
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>>124290970
>>124290917
>>124290886
I meant the archer class nobu event
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>>124290970
But anon, how does that explain this family?
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>>124290419
That's the easter event.
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Sorry guys, noob question here: is it worth it to try the even if I literally started playing today?
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>>124291276
Nah, forget about it and just grind levels or something.
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>>124291276
cheatapk
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>>124291276
No but in the other hand you should go and delete the app while you'ren't too invested in this piece of shit.
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>>124291276
I'd try to get at least 100k Honnoji Points so you can keep Nobunaga, even If she has only Lv1 NP. It'll be hard unless you cheat or use a high level support though.
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>>124290989
>one run of 20AP gave me 18 bowls
With how many CE is that?
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>>124291489
Just one from support. Haven't managed to roll it myself.
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>>124291435
Gilko is best.
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So are high tier Divine Spirits or Type-Earth stronger.

Because Divine Spirits seem stronger but it seems silly for anything from Gaia to be stronger than Type Earth.
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>>124291435
So Female Gilgamesh is just a tsundere Fate? hope she is voiced by Nana if she happens
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>>124291617
I'm actually wondering who is the strongest of the types. Something stronger than ORT seems ridiculous.
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>>124292001
>Nana

Fucking perfect. Just imagine her "ZASSHUu"
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Carmilla with Launch Order y/n
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>>124285025
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send help
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>>124292486
Just do the leaderboard you shithead
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>>124292486
Sent.
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>>124291568
Aye.
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So guys, how strong is a 9 tails Tamamo ?
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>>124291568
Pico, is that you?
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>>124293195
Strong enough to handle Gilgamesh and Achilles and Lancelot and Heracles and True Archer all by herself.
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>>124293195
If a normal servant is 10 she's 9^9 so 987420489.
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First for best girl.
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>>124293497
>Tits
>Pico

Boku no SHOCK
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>>124293604

9^9=387420489
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Can CasterLiz and Okita work together even with Okita only having 1 art card? Or would it ruin the cards you get
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>>124287465
Love the messy hairdo, but currently going all-in to form Team Guda Guda. No success thus far. 6 copies of drinking buddies though.
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>>124293648
What is this creature?
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>>124293785
>666 archer monuments

Why?
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>90% chance to crit
>doesn't crit
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>>124293943
Majin
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>>124293797
Best girl.
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>>124293785
Why are they naked?
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>>124294104
Why not?
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>>124294047
But what would she even use them for
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>>124294104
Why not?
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>>124294104
Why aren't you naked?
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>>124294009
>10% chance to crit
>crits
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>>124294228
What is Gudako saying /fgog/?
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>>124294104
Nob/u/
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>>124294104
Lazy days at their house. Killing each other is a different story.
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814,000 HP, no refills
At this rate I am making 1,5 mil on no refills
Might use some apples anyway to farm for soup for pages
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>>124293604
If the 9^9 thing was actually true that would make nine tailed Tamamo the most powerful being in Nasuverse by several orders of magnitude which is silly.

Hell, three tailed Tamamo would be stronger than Arcueid at full power.
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>>124295330
Wasn't it a saying that when nine tails are achieved, which takes thousands of years, the fox turns into a god?
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>>124295432
9 tailed Tamamo is literally a god, so yeah.
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Evangelion has a new, unknown character!
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All hail Gilko.
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>>124295432
>>124295598
Nah, after they get their ninth tail, they'll lose a tail every,10? 100? years until they only have 4 and then they become Tenko. Now that one is a literal god.
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>>124295738
Stop.
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>>124295738
Continue.
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>>124295778
I haven't heard of them losing tails.
Tenko is the highest rank of Kitsune though, 10 tails.
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Jokes aside, how useful are the Black Keys esp. if they are fully upgraded?
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>>124296042
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>>124296302
Basically 10% Buster/Arts/Quick instead of 15/25 for the 4*/5* cards.

So not bad if you're pressed for Cost.
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I DID IT GUYS! FREE TICKET GAVE ME THE OKITA.
FREE PLAYER REPORTING.
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>>124296302
For a budget CE, they're good. But you shouldn't need them at level 100.
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>>124296302
When maxed they go from 8% to 10%, so they're still not very good. Decent only if you don't have other ce's to put in or if you want to fit in the costs (and even then, there's leyline which is better)
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>>124293545
>True Archer
Too far, no one can beat that one.
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>>124296302
Not as good as maxed leyline but they have a nice budget cost and effect.
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>>124296421
>not having her with NP5 Nobu
Trash
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>>124296519
Is there any 3* CE better than maxed Leylines? What the fuck were they thinking with those values?
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>>124284515
I'm almost there, wait for me, Nobu!
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>>124296495
I don't think that his cloth can protect him from strong melee or NP attacks.
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>>124296659
Crystal horse dildo is not bad, 20% more NP gain is okay.
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>>124296302
Demiservant kotomine who uses benefits from black keys like their 5* counterparts when?
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About done with Fourming. Now just need to get horseshoes and talons. Fun times ahead.
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If Goddess Tamamo is already ridiculously powerful and she's just an aspect of Amaterasu, does that make Ama even more ludicrously strong on the powerlevel scale?

How strong are we talking here? Are Types like ants to her?
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>>124284515
Just maxed her now. Holy fuck Oda knows how to reward her retainers.
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>>124296421
Nice to see someone with levels as low as mine I fell behind everyone else in this thread.
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Will we keep the skulls after the event ends?
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>>124297217
For another 20 days, yes.
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>>124297217
No.
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>>124297217
Apparently after looking through the data they expire after the 31st of this month, be best to spam exp on her to 70 for final ascension
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>>124297315
They really like to push the shit for anyone that didn't play right from the start of the event.
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>>124296984
Is that Vegeta?
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Okita just said something about my Ushi when the battle started
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What type of music do you guys think Arturia would jam to?
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>>124297315
>>124297327
>tfw she's still at level 30
Also how come DW never told us about this?
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>>124296865
>Kirei
>not Apo best boy
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>>124297473
Because there's still a chance that they code them like candies?
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>>124297473
To laugh at your despair when you think you can relax and in fact your were on a hidden deadline all along.

DW feed off the despair of all the souls of their players, which is also why 1% roll rate in gacha.
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This event became a lot more enjoyable after i stopped wasting shit on CEs and Skulls and started to get my servants out of ascension hell.
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>>124297473
Because they're probably going to fix the hidden expiration date sometime before the end of the month? Don't buy into the fearmongering
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Come on fuck ups. Daddy needs some apologems
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>>124297473
My guess they just copy pasted the expire time for the event cash items to the skull and didn't realize they did. If they do expire at the end of the month, I expect a lot of complaints that will hopefully lead to apoloquartz.
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So wheres the Nobu H Scene for getting for her final ascension?
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>>124297697
They still owe us some apologies for the accidental ban, but the nips may be cool with it. I don't see them saying anything about it anymore
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>>124297697
Where are the Chinese when you need them?
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Black hairpiece Okita looks too much like Alter
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I think this event was the hardest so far when it came to commitment in order to get the rewards

but then again, the rewards are pretty good
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>>124298097
1000 bowls for pages still pretty stupid though.
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>>124296984
I only login to take the rewards and roll, but once Jeanne Alter is released I'll start playing seriously.
I'm also curious what kind of team you have.
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MY SNEK
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Guys, I only have 850K! Can I make it?!
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>>124298268
No. Just like me, 951k, it's all ogre.
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Now I've done it
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>>124298296
M-m-mods!
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>>124298340
I know I can kill
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>>124298462
The truth lies beyond the gate
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>>124298296
>Nothing is dangling
Good
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>>124298241
>tfw literally
>LITERALLY
>not even a single Medusa
>been here since day one
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>>124298192
I didn't login much at all which is a shame considering all I've missed out on.
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>>124298715
I have burnt 12 of them now.
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STOPPU STOPPU PUREASU
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>>124298746
Not even this rate up can give me her, only Darius, Shiki, and Davido-kun.
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>>124298759
Wow. She actually looks really decent sprite wise with max ascension
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>>124298815
What does this expression tries to convey?
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So what was the team composition that gave the most points, without maxed Gudaos?
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>>124298759
Battle of the Chiwas.

Guess they'll have to lower the level of servants for the boss rush this time.
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http://fate.appbako.com/archives/1366
Why is this not being talked about?
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>>124298715
Most people should have gotten one of everyone 3* and below by now. Except Caster Gilles. He's just non-existent. Gotten at least two of every 3* but none of him.
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>>124298983
1 okita, 1 nobu, 1 emiya, 1 support okita, 1 benki, 1 3* event servent of choice
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>>124299057
What is it
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>>124299057
Because it's fake
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>>124299172
Leaked Christmas event.
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>>124299172
Christmas event leaked. Basically you grind tickets to roll in the Event gatcha that contains a shitload of items. After you get an item it's removed so you are gradually increasing your chances of getting the 'good' stuff.
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>>124299057
>http://fate.appbako.com/archives/1366
That's old news. Christmas event will have gifts that you can use to single roll or ten roll the xmas gacha.

Also, other than the golden apples, there are also silver apples and bronze apples.
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>>124299216
Lost my shit. Is there anyway that emiya and gil could be buddies or hold a normal conversation?
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>>124299057
Christmas event leaked? Who's Santa?
Santa Nero, Santa Marie, Santa Nichola in yet another genderbend.
What people really want to know is if they're going to give us another free 4* servant. That'd kill all other talks for what's left of the year.
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>>124298715
So you're only missing Medusa?
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>>124299348
I don't remember anyone mentioning it though so that's why I'm bringing it up. Of course the authenticity is unknown but it's something to consider
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Would Tamamo, Martha and Medea work as an arts team or is that way too weak?
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>>124299325
So you can increase your chances of not getting xmas exclusive black keys from 0.0001% to 0.1%?
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>>124299123
Fucking DW.
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>>124299418
The host wasn't leaked so we don't know if it's iskander or what
>>124299524
Yes but stuff like apples will be there too
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>>124292010
It's been stated that ORT is the strongest of the Types. He's secret boss-level, but he's so out of the way that most would never encounter it.
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>>124298727
At least your units are more leveled thank mine, aside from 3 units all others are still at level 1.
Now I'm wondering what team should I build from what I have.
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>>124299325
Inb4 there's no way to possibly get every item, and there will be unlucky shits that don't get the good stuff.
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>>124299462
Did you read the patch notes for version 1.4.1? They fixed that shit.
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>>124299492
It would be tanky as fuck but you would have little to no damage. Be useful for anti-george fights
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>>124299348
Any mention of who's hosting it/what other kinds of items are available?
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They need to re-ban the rice nazi account sellers, fucking support list is full of mashus
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>>124299492
You will be hitting with the force of a paper tissue but you will be spamming NPs left and right.
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>>124299747
What you mean removed the data in the game or hid it?
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Clown Krampus when?
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>>124299668
Ganbare, I don't think it'll really take that long for you to catch.
It gets harder to level though and I'm strictly F2P.

You have some really nice cards though which are worth levelling.
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Caster 40 AP in 12 hours, right?
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>>124300031
Thanks, you too can build a good art team with Vlad/Emiya/Chevalier D'Eon.
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>>124299958
That image appears as an error when you view the milestone page after completing the event (1.5M) but it only happens on specific devices, which also includes bluestacks.
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>>124299437
Caster Gilles and Alex too I guess, I don't really care about them tho.
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>>124300401
items
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>>124300401
I presume the other image was found in a similar way correct?
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>>124299583
How about like this?
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>>124300612
>silver apple

Any ideas what this could be?
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>>124300612
>dango
Fucking Delight Works
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Every thread until Astolfo
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>>124300612
>that giftbox
I guess it's real then. Shit the Christmas event already sounds bad
>>124300745
Half AP restore
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>>124300745
If golden is 100% AP refill, silver would be 50% and bronze would be 25% I guess.
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What is this expression trying to convey?
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>>124300830
>dango
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>>124300519
I'm so sad I missed out on Gil. His laugh gives me a boner.
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>>124300929
>tfw no beams
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>>124300745
I assume they'd do the same as gold apple, but with an inferior affect. So either set amounts, like 50 and 100 AP, or percentages lower than 100%, like 30% and 50%.

Latter sounds most likely to me.
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>>124299325
Sounds good. Better than grinding 100 different currencies.
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>>124300612
>dangos and the Halloween items
Holy fuck they better not put those things in the gatcha
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>>124300942
Yeah, there's a Halloween bat there too
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>>124300832
>slower than the faker

It's UBW all over again
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>>124300929
Lack of evilness.
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>>124300680
The images I posted? Those were datamined and have nothing to do with the bug.

I was talking about pic related.
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>>124301040
At least your guaranteed to get the shit. Here you'll have to roll in the shitty gatcha and hope you get what you want
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>>124301086
>>124301049
>>124300942
It's just a collection of all the item icons, not a list of items that you can get from the event.
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>>124301258
Oh whoops. Thought you meant the one you posted

DW can't keep a leak from happening to save their life's I guess
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>>124301549
We know what they are anon
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>>124301549
Fuck off weaboo.
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>>124301293
Depends entirely on how hard it is to empty the gacha. If it's like the current event, where you have to sacrifice on some items to get others, it's gonna be hell. But if you can empty it without spending apples, it should be a nice and relaxing event without having to worry about what you're going to buy.
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>>124301461
Why do they include shit early.
I don't get that, surely they know people are datamining and they could just put the data in at the time of the event?
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>>124301549
Blame Delight Works. They named the item 団子 which means dango. Also, there are times when they are refered to as mochi and then dango again in the story.
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>>124301293
But I've already accepted the fact that the gatcha is the most fun part of any mobage. Imagine the tears and suffering from the 1% people who just can't get what they need while everybody else clears it halfway through
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>>124301807
Saves effort if it's already put in. They changed the key to datamine but that got busted on day 2 of the event
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>>124297327
To max Nobu is much harder than Caster Liz I hope this doesn't set a precedence, it's really annoying when managing 3+ accounts.
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>>124302173
>3 accounts
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>>124296421
Guys I need help, How can I build a good quick team using what I have?
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>>124302328
Look at what Quick servants you have.

There you go.
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>>124302328
Okita / Atlanta feed you crit stars. Use Nobu's third ability to dish out the pain. Its not even hard to think about.
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How is Lancelot, Gil, Okita for crit team?
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I'm at 31k points, can I make it to 1 million for the level 5 nobu NP if I burn all of my apples? (60+)
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>>124302706
60 apples is 7500 AP which is 187 40 AP runs.

Each run gives me 8k HP at 360% which is just under 1.5M (1,496,000 HP)
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>>124302706
>I'm at 31k points
First tell use what % do you get when getting into a quest, before getting into the actual battle. 360% or higher is good enough, so it depends a lot in which Servants and CEs you're using.

And you should have to always do the 40AP Lancer daily, because that gives a bigger amount of Honnoji Points.
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>>124303328

I can only get to 230%, can I still make it?
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>>124299615
>...Actually, might not really be the strongest life form that received Earth's SOS sign.
He isn't the strongest.
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>client kicks me out of game
>can't access account
>going to miss out on Gears and other items because recovery takes a while
Do you think Intern-kun would try to fight back if I were to strangle him right now
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>>124303526
I have a hard time seeing how one could even be declared the strongest. They all have vastly different skill-sets and such that would depend on circumstances. Unless one of the ones we haven't seen can just blow up the planet itself.
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>>124303465

230%, no gudao CE senpai
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Just meme rolled this. Time to farm some dangos I guess
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>>124303468
The dailies are going to give you like at least 300k with no multiplier, anyway:

base seems to be at around 2.2k per run?
At 230% that would be around 5.1k, right?

So 187 40 AP runs would be just over 955k HP, plus the natural regen you'll probably make it, yes.
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>>124303468
>>124304008
You would get only 4,600 Honnoji Points doing the Lancer 40AP. So you must challenge the Lancer Daily 218 times, and that's 8720 AP.

If what >>124303328 is right and 60 apples equals to 7500 AP, you're a bit short, like in 1000 AP.

I'd be aiming for NP lvl3 and save some apples.
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>>124304120
How much would he make from the 1 AP daily, and how many more of those are there? That should cut his total down a bit and let him reach 1mil if he's willing to burn the apples
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>>124303468
You can barely make it but honestly I'd go for permanent Nobu and NP Lvl 2 or 3 for overcharge only unless you really, really want to max it. It's not worth the 60 apples you might have to use to get cool stuff next event.
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>>124304241
Yeah I forgot that, the 1AP can maybe do the trick for him.
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>>124304248
>next event is just a gatcha event
I don't think he has anything to feel bad about
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>>124304120
>>124304248

Gudao CE is the only way to increase the precentage right?
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>>124304345
Gudao CE and Cu/Ushiwakamaru/Clown/Medusa/Benkei/Emiya/Nobu/Okita Servants.
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Would you bully Okita?
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>>124304345
>20% boost
Benkei
Cu
Medusa
Mephisto
Ushi

>40% boost
Emiya

>60% boost
Nobunaga

>100% boost
Okita

>30% boost
Gudao CE equiped in any Servant
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>>124304473
No but I'd let her bully me
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>>124304453

Damn, looks like im stuck with 230% then. Oh well time to grind the 40 AP.
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>>124303880
What triggers me is how never went deeper into the whole Notes thing. I would have liked to see all the Servants joining forces against the Artistoteles or something like that, or see more of Ado Edem.
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>>124304473
I'd let her bully my penis
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>>124304578
you have a free nobunaga and use an okita support with gudao CE, that should give you 200% more
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This madman.

He even has fed him Fous. The one true oppressor.
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Do I work on Cu or Medea
Who is better
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Can I do the lancer 40 ap daily if I have 3 level 50s and a level 60 vlad as servants? I could probably get higher, but I don't have the ascension materials for alter, and the rest are currently gaining almost nothing from levelling.
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>>124304969
Cu.
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>>124305057
Just use a high level okita support of 60-70+ and focus your efforts on supporting them and keeping them alive. Its piss
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>>124304886
You know the one thing I don't like? OPPRESSORS
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>>124304578
With 230%, the 1AP will give you 29,900 Honnoji Points.

So at least you have 179,400 Honnoji Points for sure.
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>>124305057
Doesn't matter if the rest of your servants are only level 1 as long as you have a level 60+ Okita support.
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Which servant is your best girl?

Bonus points for pic relating.
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>>124305518
The one and only
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>>124305518
Easy. UNRIVALED best girl.
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>>124305518
Siegfried
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>>124305518
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>>124305518
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>>124305693
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I wonder how Sigurd is going to work. Maybe he only existed in the Proto universe and Siegfried is only in the FSN universe like male and female Arthur?
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>>124305836
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Can Atlas weapons destroy Types?
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>>124306003
Well his sword is in the gate of babylon, so maybe he exists in FSN, but I suro hope Siegfried and Sigurd interact. It would be my new OTP
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>>124306003
Or maybe it's like the 2 versions of Vlad.
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>>124305518
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I kinda wanna fuck Nobu. She's pretty cute
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>>124306671
Vlad is just two sides of the same legend. Sigurd is a different hero who did different things like marry Lust Lancer.
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>>124307143
You do. I'ts literally her final acsended line
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>>124305620
I never understand what that rope supposed to do.
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>>124307190
Somebody need to educate me on this, but I thought they were kind of like the same person but interpreted and given different lore by different cultures? Kind of like the connection between Greek and Roman gods.
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>>124305518
My first and cutest 5*, of course.
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>>124307475
Supposed to tie her clothes together around her stomach
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>>124307546
I'm talking about in reference to the Nasuverse. We have Brunhilde who knows Sigurd, but says Siegfried is very similar to him. So it's more than just there being both versions of the legend.
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Lads is there any point in doing the below 40AP dailies for xp when your servants are above lvl 40?
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>>124307557
This rope? How'd that work?
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>>124307867
Burning silvers for mana prisms. The best way of getting them is the 30 AP.
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>>124307867
30AP is the best one for farming 3* exp to burn for cubes.
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>>124307852
Brunhilde would be Siegfried's version though. Brynhildr is the one that falls in love with Sigurd
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>>124307867
Always do 40AP If your team can handle it, regardless of their level. It has the best drops for leveling servants.
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>>124296495
Dysentery can handle him by itself
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>>124308040
>>124308068
>>124308092
Cheers lads

How do you guys' AP take it? I've played for 4 days now and I only have 61AP
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>>124308015
Are you literally retarded? The rope fixing the clothes is around her stomach, thats just the rest of the rope
How retarded can you get ?
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>>124308451
But the thickness between the one around her obi and that rope is different, how can that be the same rope?
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>>124305518
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>>124308747
gr8 b8
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>>124308015
>>124307475
The rope is to prevent the sleeves of the kimono from interfering with movement of the arms.
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Cat.
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>>124308830
>going gr8 b8 the moment being questioned
k

>>124308835
Shouldn't her sleeves be bunched up under the rope then?
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>>124309006
More Tamamos when?
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>>124309194
>Shouldn't her sleeves be bunched up under the rope then?
No. Why would you think that?
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What kind of threads would a /hgw/ board on 4chan have?
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>>124309478
>tfw no waifu servant sadfrog.png
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Avenger Jesus when?
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>>124309194
Honestly thought it was bait, didn't people could be this retarded. Sorry for your retardness
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>>124309478

>Guys I just summoned Assassin, what;s the best way to use him?
>He fell for the assassin meme
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>>124309376
I'm thinking something more like this I guess.
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>>124309742
Because if the rope around her stomach you're talking about is the one she use as her obi, that's really a different rope. Pic related.
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>>124309478
Speaking of Grail Wars, what happened to the tabletop GWs that some anons were playing?
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>>124310619
They are maybe still at it. Or it finished and professional author-kun is writing the story
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>>124304886
Poor Sakura.
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>>124304886
Grand Berserker Spartacus should be his octopus mode.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmk0BTzQnyw
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>>124310619

Is it /tg/ time?
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>>124309212
Rider Tamamo from Christmas event.
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>>124300612

>bronze and silver apples

oh, what if they're AP drops? like a lucky refund for a quest
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What's the current best quest to farm Dragon Teeth in?
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>>124311381
>>>/o/keanos
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>>124310619
Rgw a shit because the DM a shit.
Lols a shit because the DM a shit.
Sensing a pattern here
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>>124298715

i'm like that but with Medea as well...
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>>124311421
Do higher level quests have better drop rates than lower level ones, even if the enemy type is the same? France has wyverns too.
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>>124311740
I don't know, you tell me.
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>>124310619
Only one still alive on life support is being run by spreadsheet autist and spreadsheet autist takes years to do anything hgw related. Aka all hgw tabletops are ded
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>>124304886
If we assume that the boost from the Grail Ascension is serious, he'd be pretty awesome.
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>>124311858

Wait what, spreadsheat-chan is one of the GM's?
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>>124311839
Shit nigga I dunno, I only have anecdotal evidence which is why I'm asking. I did one run of Wyvern Island and got 0 fangs, then I did one run of La Charite and got 1 fang, but this could just be coincidence.
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>>124293195

i don't know exactly how, but Amaterasu is a big girl
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>>124297447
Country
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Lads what is the lock around the servants or servant locking?

Its not in the FAQ
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>>124313050
So you don't accidentally burn it or use it as EXP
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>>124313050
>lock
What could a lock do?
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>>124310096
Is there a name for her dress here or is it basically just a kimono dress without sleeves? I need it for reasons.
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I wish I had a team strong enough to do lancer 40AP.
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>>124313331
Literally any decently leveled Okita support can solo it.
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>>124313331
>what is support okita
My highest non-archer is level 34 and I'm doing find
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>>124313331
I literally trashed my whole team and let my okita support kill everything
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>>124313331
Sad that you can't do the easiest quest out of all the 40 AP so far
git gud
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Who would you main in a Fate Musou?
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Are Okita and Arturia good together on a team? They're my only two five stars and my only four star is Nobu since I started using this account after the Halloween event ended.
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>>124313225
Isn't she just not wearing the Haori.
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Archer daily is gonna be hell to clear
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>>124313678
That's correct, I'm trying to figure out if there's a term for what she wears underneath.
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>>124313710
>tfw only have level 57 Liz for Lancer
ded
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>>124311279
For the Emprah
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>>124313710
it's most certainly the last one too
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>>124313331
Just use the cheat thing. It makes mindless farming during events a breeze.
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>>124313642
Not particularly.
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>>124313949
no shit sherlock
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>>124313789
Kosode? That's the garment underneath Haori is called right?
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>>124284172
Shut the fuck up Gawain it's your fault that your kingdom went to shit.

If only you dropped your garbage with Lancelot but no, you still wanted it to go.
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>>124313710
>tfw my Hector will finally be useful
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>>124313639
Any of the best girls, really.

>>124313642
Okita, Arthoria and Nobu are pretty good, even if they lack complete synergy. You'll sometimes be lacking in stars due to Arthoria not generating a whole lot and archers might fuck your shit up from time to time, but it's not a bad team.
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>>124313642
double seibaface+nobu is fine as a semi balanced crit slanted team.
Its not amazingly good, but its still pretty good.
Arturia stars+okita stargen+demon lord nobu
Arturia buster np with np regen
Nobu helping okita with faster np gen
Etc.

You will need to train up a backup lancer through or otherwise you're going to get rekt by archers
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>>124314069
Yeah, though a kosode normally has sleeves. I'm thinking this was just some original design based off of a kosode that doesn't really have a name.
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>>124284172
That's not pic related. He even cooks
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>>124314121
And he still lost in the end.
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>>124314326
Best knight by a long shot.
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>>124313710
Not worried at all. Cu will solo that thing easily.

Best Dog
Best Lancer
Best Spear
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>>124313857
You'll be most likely fine. I only have level 30 Cu on the other hand. Guess it will be JEANNE time again.
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>>124314326
My king when ;_;
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>>124313710
>he doesn't have a high level dog
Cu can solo almost any Archer in this game as long as it doesn't have 300+ health.
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>>124284515
Just got the 4th Nobu. Pretty sure I'll max her on Sunday if not tomorrow.

>>124284660
He's talking about swordsmanship
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>>124314474
So he can't kill a single archer? Sad day
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>>124314474
So pretty much no one then?
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Noticed the pastebin is missing Okita's birthday line:
>誕生日おめでとうございます!贈り物に新撰組の羽織いかがですか?
>Many happy returns! Shall we get you your very own Shinsengumi haori?
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>>124314326
What is he like,is his personality similar to female Arthur?
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I wonder how many apples I should save for Christmas. We'll probably get a bunch anyway.
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>>124314675
Keep like 15+ apples, rest you can spend whenever you want. New event gives out apples too, they are like consumables in RPGs, don't sit on them until the game is over, just use them.
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>>124314671
He's supposed to be more like EMIYA in personality
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>>124314671
If I remember right, something like Emiya.
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>>124314590
>>124314578
I meant 300K+.
Take a dog as apologize.
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>>124314479
He isn't. He is talking about overall.
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>>124314803
>>124314831
That's the best comparison you could think of? They're nothing alike at all.
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>>124314202
Well, sleeveless Kosode is a thing in Bleach.
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>>124314671
Like an otome game character.
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>>124314675
I don't think you have much to worry about with the Christmas event since it's just a shitty gatcha event
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>>124314960
Oh, thanks, that actually helps. Now I have more to go on.
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>>124314927
I don't really know, but that comparison does get thrown around when this is brought up.
I also remember someone saying his personality being a basis for one of the F/SN character.
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>>124314326
If Arthur and Arturia had sex is it considered masturbation?
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can proto saber beat lancelot and gilgamesh?
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>>124315085
There's a present item icon, so it's definitely something more.
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>>124315151
There's the comment about them both being nihilistic, but that's about as far as it goes.
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>>124314197
Thanks anon. Would anyone here be useful? And yeah, I've pretty much given up on getting past EMIYA in the 30 AP quest, but at least the 40 AP quest is a lot more useful for drops/HP.
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Is pic related a fat Yukine?
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>>124315265
Not really. There's only one Christmas-y event icon in the files and it's being used for the gatcha thing. Sure they could add more but this is DW we're talking about
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>>124314326
when?
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>>124315438
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>>124315438
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>>124315402
Buy out the exp from the shop and feed them to Okita. Get a high level not-Okita from your support list and try to get them to deal with EMIYA
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>>124315243
Depends if they're considered the same person or not. Kind of obvious, but hey.

>>124315249
>Proto Saber
>EXcalibur
Probably, although there's more to it than anything we can hope to speculate on.

>>124315413
Hassan generates a good amount of stars, although you're probably better off with Arthoria anyways.
David is great for an arts team (Arthoria could also fit in one), but not for quick/crit teams.
Not sure how good Medusa is in a crit team, but I heard she's a great 3*.
Hans is also pretty good for a 2*.
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>>124315734
>Level your saber and get a saber support to defeat an archer, since this is how the class triangle works
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>>124315438
The noragami thread is the other way anon
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How would a Drake / Nobu / Casko team work ? Is it any good ?
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>>124315614

Yes, Persues the slayer of the horrific, monsterous Medusa as a 5* Rider when?
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>>124315614
Top row
1 = 4 > 5 > 2 >>> 3

Bottom row
3 >1 > 2 > 4
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http://www.npr.org/2015/11/30/457319066/from-gladiator-duels-to-caesars-last-words-the-myths-of-ancient-rome

Caligula sounds like an ok guy.
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>>124315824
Are you illiterate?
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>>124315932
Barely.
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>>124315932
They're all meant for a different team so no
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>>124315947
Soon
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>>124315932
Nobu and Casko kind of break the synergy there.
Both can work with Drake, Nobu to a greater extent, but the three of them together sort of don't mesh all that well.
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>>124315734
I'm assuming you're replying to me but my Okita's stuck at 60 due to the fact that this is a recent account and I can't ascend her again before getting more mats. And I'd like to but I'd also like to complete the event first. That and I don't mind not completing that quest since I get more drops from 40 AP anyway.

>>124315808
I guess for now I'll stick with her and Arturia then, with Hassan and David as backups. Hopefully I'll pull someone nice when I really need it since I'm doing fine in the event and any other quests right now.
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>>124315243
>>124315808
If Shirou and EMIYA had sex is it masturbation?
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Can any Servant stop Lancer's Gay Bulges?
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>>124315614
Best Protogirl atleast until we get a Proto!Medea design
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>>124316038
>>124316060
>>124316193

How can I fix it then ?
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>>124316256
No that would be selfcest
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>>124314927
That's the comparison Nasu gave, yes.

>n Ayaka's eyes, he is the ideal prince in addition to his station as her protector. However, for a brief period his style of speech was mingled with nihilistic mannerisms. Not only that, but he had his bouts of hypocritical courtesy as he would at times tease or make fun of Ayaka. In Fate/stay night Archer would inherit these traits. In fact, the nature of Saber and Ayaka's relationship, at least in the beginning, was similar to that of Rin Tohsaka and Archer.


But he's not Archer, he just have small stuff about Archer.

He's Shirou with a mix of Archer.
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>>124316445
You've got some options
Crit team - drake,carmillia,nobu
Art team - casko,nero/drake,caster liz/nero/drake
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>>124316445
CasLiz/Drake/Nobu
Casko/Nero/Anything with 2 or more art cards
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Save me
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>>124316445
Forget Nobu and go with Nero/Drake/Tamamo if you want team comp. If you really want to use Nobu, Drake/Nobu/Carmilla I guess.
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>>124315614
>after Ozzy comes out I'll have to wait another eternity for Arthur and proto Gil

End me now.
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>>124316603
>>124316620
>>124316754

I think I'm gonna roll with Nero/Cako/Drake, thanks.
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>>124316668
You'll get NP on Okita in two turns. What are you worried about?
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>>124316668
>bringing under level 60 Okita support
why
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>>124316901
Only one I have
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>>124316445
Drake+casko+nero/caster liz (nero has art np to buff and prevents doubling up on classes but caster liz is much easier to ascend and has more innate damage)
Drake+tamamo+herc can work decently as a buster spam team but a third zerker would be better
Carmillia(90% of the time) with backup stheno (when vsing men)+drake+nobu is a pretty good crit focused semi balanced team
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Is Archer!Herc the absolute strongest/best servant out there?
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>>124316852
Ozzy > Gil m8
Ozzy is King of Kings an Gil is the King of Heroes so Ozzy is above him. Who says Ozzy is even a hero?
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>>124317167
No? He still can't get rid of Enkidu.

He'll do miles better than his Berserker version though

Algo stop with
>!___
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>>124317167
No that's Casko 9 tails.
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>>124317167

>herkeks actually believe archer herc has a chance of being the best servant
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>>124317224
Wut? That anon is not talking about powerlevel at all.
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>>124317224
O-okay? I agree with you know. I just think an archer would round out my Ozzy Arthur dream team well, and I just like prototype gil.
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>>124317224
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>>124317408
Hes just trying to start shit.
Its that time of day when the fake jetfag and fake hercfag (who both are probably the same baiter) are baiting out a shitstorm.
Any moment now there will be a jets>herc comment or maybe a jets can KoH demonbane or something as retarded as herc>ort.
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>>124317616

Got the lancelot one?
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>>124317167
>>124317393
>>124317395
Then there's those assholes.
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>>124317645
>I can't read the whole sentence
Did you even read what that anon wrote?
I mean if you're going to bait, at least bait intellectually and without autism.
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>>124317686
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>>124317812
>That face
Makes me laugh every time.
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>>124317645
>since hes's obviously not an anti-hero or wraith
nice adhd and lack of reading comprehension
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>>124311964
La Charite gives like 2 fangs per 125 AP, it's awful.
I don't know if Wyvern Island is any less shit.
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Would an all-gorgon team work?
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>4 Golden Nobus
Christ, how much will the dailies be worth on the last day
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>>124318173
>EA doing shit against aliens
Gil is shit tier and can't even handle a ginger kid while Ozzy can handle fucking 4 top tier Servants at the same time.
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>>124318173
[muffled ayy lmao in the distance]
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>>124318154
>fight against female
>lose
Nice job
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>>124317902
nocchi is one of those artists who I kinda liked at first, but who went so long without improving the obvious flaws in his art that I ended up hating it.
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>>124318182
I "only" got 60.

Damn the disadvantages of not being able to equip more than 2 GUDAO.
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>>124317396
I'm sure he has EX rank everything, if not stars instead of letters.
It doesn't matter Herk gets +100 resistance to one ORT attack since he would need to lose 5 or 7 lives by those attacks to resist that one attack and he wouldn't be able to damage ORT at all. Herk is fucked no matter what.
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Who are the most optimal servants to have if I want to put Vlad in an arts team? I don't have kaleidoscope.
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>>124318182
those people rushing for 1M on the first day must be feeling kind of silly now
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>>124318505
You forget to mention ort is a reality warper and that hercs defense is unlikely to even work against ort.
The conceptual differences between a mere servant and an aristoles is much too different
If herk had black barrel and knew how to use it however, herc might have a chance
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>>124318518
Ozzy has no weaknesses and ayy lmao light bulb solos Gilgamesh and his shit tier Gate of Trash that can't even harm True Archer and shitty EA that can't even kill a human protected by Aias.

CCC confirms Aliens > Gilgafaggot, deal with it.
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>>124318182
18k base. That's what they'll get to by replacing every nobu with a giant golden nobu.
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>>124318610
Casko or Waver.
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>>124318734
Black Barrel can't kill ORT though.
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>>124318772
>ozzy has no weaknesses
Citation needed
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>>124318505
You need an A rank NP or up to harm Herc, nothing else works and even if he killed Herc once then Herc would become immune to ORT after that.
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>>124318826
Black Barrel imposes Gaia's concept of death on the target, so yes it can.
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>>124318610
Casko
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>>124318790
That will happen in 3 days at this pace. There has to be something else after. Maybe Okita as a boss dropping 20k+ base points?
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>>124318878
>Ozzy has weaknesses
Citation needed.
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>>124317645
>deleting your post because you got rekt
Nice
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>>124318986
>Herc would become immune to ORT after that
ORT is not an attack. God Hand only negates specific attacks.
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>>124319117
reinforcement wave nobus?
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>>124319017
Venus lived though, even if it had to change forms.
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>>124319017
It can't kill ORT.
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>>124315932
I'm not sure if it's really as bad as some other anons are saying. The NP gain from Tamamo's NP and Nobu's first skill could be great paired with Drake's skills to raise her own NP to make stars and if Nobu's skill is good enough to let Tamamo spam her NP more it would also reduce the cooldown of all their skills. They've also got a good enough amount of arts cards. I might try it when I level Nobu after the event is done. It sounds like it'd be fun to try out at least.
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>>124319181
It still took massive damage meaning ergo herk with black barrel like that original anon said CAN kill ort
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>>124319176
>single wave with 18 nobbus
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>>124319193
>hurr it don't work cuz I say so
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>>124319176
That too I guess. I would find it pretty anticlimatic, though.
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Who's the weakest servant/character that could handle hercules by themselves?
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>>124319308
I'm ready.
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>>124319159
No you don't know how God Hand works, you need an NP in order to harm it because Saber said so.
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>>124319357
herc
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>>124319193
Citation?
Last I checked the whole point of black barrel is rekting aristoles by forcing them to have a natural lifespan end
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>>124319357
(you)
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>>124319181
It stopped being a treat, so I think it kinda works.

>>124319193
He will no longer be able to fight, it may not kill it, but it will defeat it.
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>>124319357
No one Herc is unbeatable unless you have a NP and even then he can beat Gil who has all of them if he is summoned as Archer.
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>>124319309
>>124319415
ORT>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gaia
He doesn't have anything to do with Gaia's rules in the first place.

Black Barrel can't kill Type Mercury, he's bullshit.

And i'm pretty sure Heracles can't use Black Barrel in the first place considering only normal humans can.
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>>124319403
>np
Except thats headcanon, it was directly stated herk can be harmed by A ranked attacks.
Hell the very scene of rin killing herc with her jewels proves A ranked attacks work.

However that is besides the point as herc as a concept can't even touch ort's toes.
Its like the difference between a supposedly unbreakable shield and an absolutely unstoppable lance.
This isn't even mentioning ort's reality warping or the fact a single attack would take all of hercs lives and more some.
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>>124319357

Lancelot, but only because of Knight Of Honor.
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>>124319675
No it wasn't. It's only your headcanon and you've been annoying in every thread for a while now.

Hercules can't even fight ORT, but A rank STR is your headcanon and it was NEVER said by Nasu. At all.
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>>124319646
Nice headcanon.
Every single statement and proof by official soruces state that black barrel CAN kill the aristoles.
You've got nothing but headcanon stating it can't.
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>>124319735
>D-rank attacks hit Herk's body
>ping
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The fucking Herkeks starting shit again.
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>>124319403
I know you're shitposting but some idiot might believe it.
>Noble Phantasm
>God Hand: Twelve Labors
>Rank: B
>Type: Anti-Unit
>Range: -
>Maximum Targets:
>A blessing of Gods, as well as a curse. It is a Noble Phantasm given to Heracles, representing immortality. This Noble Phantasm does not have an overt external manifestation such as a weapon or armour, but if you hazard to put a shape to it, the body itself can be called the Noble Phantasm. God Hand turns one’s body into a tough suit of armour and nullifies all attacks Rank B or lower, regardless the attack being physical or magical. It also has the effect of automatic resurrection after death. Because the resurrection effect has 11 uses, Heracles cannot perish unless killed 12 times. In addition, due to Ilya’s immense magical energy, given enough time, the lives lost can also be regenerated.
Anything greater than B-rank will do.
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>>124319792
Where the hell did I even mention A rank str you autist?
Are you even reading it right?
I swear you've got reading problems
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>>124319735
>Knight of Honor
>Doing shit to hercules

>Lancelot
>Doing shit to Hercules
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA


He'll kill Heracles one time if he gets lucky and if Illya doesn't restrain the boost from ME. He'd have to blow Heracles apart with something in order to get past Battle Continuation A. And then he'll be done for because Hercules will grab his arm and rip him apart.
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>>124319868

>what are servant noble phantasmas that keep the rank
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>>124319919
It was a jetfag false-flagging :^)
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>>124319792
>Hercules can't even fight ORT
He can't because ORT has no A ranked NPs.
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>>124319993
The original herk can beat ort was obvious bait.
Everything after that is completely the fault of the herkeks
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tfw still haven't summoned jeanne

just kill me lads
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>>124319834
Except it couldn't kill Venus.

>>124319949
Greater than B is A, retard. Saber herself says it you need A rank NP.

>>124319919
>>124320028
>Falseflagging this hard
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>Ozy

easy
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>>124319991
Where's he going to get those from in a 1v1 against Herk, faggot.
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>>124319792
>A rank STR
Uwut? That anon said nothing about that. Stop falseflagging.
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>>124320154
Show me where it says you need an NP specifically.
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>>124319975
>>124319868

Lancelot with 12 different guns can canonically bypass God Hand.

>The bullets, soaked in his magical energy, are lethal to Servants, so even one hit would be able to spell the end for them.
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>>124319975
>And then he'll be done for because Hercules will grab his arm and rip him apart.
>A STR
Say bye to that arm, Herc. Worst mistake you can do is grabbing someone who is far more skilled than you are.
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>>124320286
>D-Rank.
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>>124320154
Citation needed.
Also, official sources has already been posted countless times that any A rank attack will do.
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>>124320286
Okay I admit it, this is funny.

>>124320293
This is not funny, it's hilarious.
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>>124320154
Anon you yourself said it, you need A rank NP, ORT doesn't have it so he can't beat Herc the Zerk.
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>>124314665
Ayy myroom anon where we at.
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>>124320154
>what are stars and EX rank?

>A rank NP
That's not what the description says.
>all attacks Rank B or lower, regardless the attack being physical or magical.
>attacks
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>>124320446

>herkeks can't refute this

That is what's truly hilarious.
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>>124320286
Smugredman.jpg
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>>124320450
>Falseflagging this hard

Jetfags sure feel inferior don't you? It's pathetic. We already know who are the ones posting this shit every thread.

Nobody likes you Jetfags.
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Well, this took long enough.
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>>124320293
That's some mortal kombat shit there
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>>124320446
What's funny is you thinking Herkek has any chance against Lancelot. It's like arguing Taiga could beat a no Prana Burst Seiba if she had 12 Lives, only far worse because Taiga actually has some skill unlike Herkek and Lancelot is far more skilled than Seiba.
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Can we at least agree that Herk can breakdance better than Lancelot?
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>>124320286
>this is your average jetfag who doesn't know how D rank nps work against god hand
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>>124320514
And they get nullified.
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>>124320437
And unless Lancelot wants to rip Herk apart with his bare hands, he only has one weapon that qualifies.

>A-Rank strength

Gets overwritten by D-Rank NP from KoH. Remember, these weapons do not have any special abilities, they are just D-RAnk NPs, rated for their destructive powers, which while stronger than A-Rank Strength alone, cannot pierce Herk's conceptual defense.

Even though a d-rank NP is stronger than an A-Rank attack, it doesn't matter for Herk. It's the concept of the attack that matters, not the attack itself.
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Both herk and Lancelot get destroyed by Napoleon anyway.
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>>124320286
What the fuck am I reading?
Fuck off anti-jetfag we all know its you.
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>>124320591
>Can't refute
>Boogeyman meme
Anon, you accepted it, you need A rank NP, ORT doesn't have that so he can't do anything against Herc. Even if a NP could destroy the world, if it's not A ranked, it can't harm Herc, and ORT doesn't even have a NP.
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waifufags were better than this
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>>124320678
>muh skill

Herc trashed Saber without ME, he wasn't even trying too.
>Muh skill
Is worthless, as Shirou himself says it.

Also Nasu said in the materials that Herc's abilities are vastly superior to anyone in the fifth war in the first place. Not his power, his abilities in melee.
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>>124320754
You have serious reading comprehension issues.
You keep attacking people for supposedly saying A rank STR when they say A rank attack.
You are fucking retarded
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>>124320891
You're the only one claiming you need an NP, with no sources to back that up.
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>>124320705
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>>124320754
>Gets overwritten by D-Rank NP from KoH
Read Apocrypha stupid pleb.
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Who /lewdsaint/ here?
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>>124320754
Only the guns. Melee attacks default to strength.
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>this whole argument
holy autism
Its been proven multiple times already just ITT that you only need an A rank attack to hurt herakles. No you fucking don't need an NP, you faggot without citation.

>Herakles can beat ORT
Now this is bait at its finest
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>>124319117
And it's just 3 days until the originally planned end of the event.

Just because it got extended doesn't mean we'll get more dailies.
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>>124320981
But I'm not, you are. You did here >>124320154 while also saying I'm falseflagging when I'm actually making the same argument that you are.
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>>124321059
Best Girl
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>>124321059
lewd saint you say?
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>>124321190
4 days until planned end, shithead
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>>124321059
Eventually
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>>124321059
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>>124320745
>>124320891
I'm gonna cite the official description one more time.
>nullifies all attacks Rank B or lower, regardless the attack being physical or magical.
It doesn't say it has to be A rank, it says it has to be more than B rank, which is A rank or more. Nor does it says it has to be a NP, it can be any kind of attack.
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>>124320891
Fucking Hercfags these days. A rank strength can kill Herc. ORT can also reality warp him to crystal, you don't believe godhand cand efend against reality warping now do you retard?
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>>124320286
They actually can if used as melee weapons instead of using them to fire bullets.
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>>124320286
Is this the most autistic post so far or is the NP ONLY anons posts the most autistic?
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>>124321375
I'm sorry, do you prefer manly men?
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>>124321191
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>Comfy thread until Amerikeks are back from school
America was a mistake
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>another thread ruined by heracles and lancelot fags
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>>124321340
Hes clearly talking about them as actual guns being fired since he used that quote.

Its why thats probably the most retarded post so far.
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>>124321321
To be fair, you'll generally need a higher than A rank NP to kill-kill Heracles. Anything A-rank just has the ability to cause damage.
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>>124321375
We love you too anon.
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>>124314665
>>124320507
Staying clear of the powerlevel arguments

Added though
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>>124321059
>>124321246
>>124321282
Mein brothers
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What if lancelot THROWS the guns? Do they bypass god hand since his strength is A?
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>>124321301
It can be B+ if the conditional boost is met, too. Hell, conditional boost B+ is higher than A, which is a reason why Mordred was viewed a big deal in Apocrypha.
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But is there a bigger NEET hero than Gilgamesh?
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Threads ruined by jetfags: 18
Threads ruined by herkeks: 7
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>>124320923
BCC Saber wow sure was a threat and the ME part was retconned by Realta Nua, in fact, he did worse when he "used his ME" than during the first night.

Lancelot and Herc both have the same stats and Lancelot is far superior because of the skill, so Shirou was wrong, stats aren't all as he thought.

Nasu has used abilities to refer to stats (see materials, parameters) and also you would be arguing that Herc is more skilled than Kojirou which is retarded. He is superior overall because of God Hand and higher stats than everyone else, not in skill.
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>Hannibal with EU

But why
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How strong lorewise is Artemis? Is she a top tier? She's a goddess after all.
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cute servants

post em
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>>124321059
I'll finally have enough talons from this event to ascend her all the way.
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>>124321773
So lancelots EAM matters yet herakles battle continuation and eye of the mind don't?

Thats not even mentioning the fact lancelot can't even kill herkek more than twice at best
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That fucking bird
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>>124321627
Nope, B is B is B. + 's mean nothing to rank stuff like Fafnir and GH.
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>>124321970

>>>/c/
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>>124320705
>>124321003
Is there any servant who could beat Elizabeth in a dancing competition?
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>>124322030
>>>/lgbt/
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>>124321970
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>>124321970
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>>124321552

Hey anon, is this Medusa line translated? https://u.pomf.io/nfuzco.mp3 I don't remember seeing it in the pastebin.
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>>124322018
nice headcanon
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>>124321970
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>>124322018
Citation needed or you're shitposting.
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>>124322000
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>>124321993
Eye of the Mind will only make up for the no skill in terms of defense and even then it's up to his skill if he can react properly.
Battle Continuation isn't going to do anything for him if he keeps getting BTFO by the superior skill of his enemy. If he can't protect his vital parts properly, he is fucked.
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It's that time of the year
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>>124322170
GB used by Lancer cannot kill Herc without being boosted despite having a B+ version. More red cannot hurt Sieg without a CS boost despite having B+ strength.
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>>124321059
post A+ riding
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>>124321970
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>>124322203
why is the bird sitting on a penisworm and what does it have to do with rin
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>tfw didn't roll okita
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>>124322319
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Gaduo CE or Kaleido for Okita in a crit team?
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>>124321953
Nerfed because she tried to take Orion's place as a servant and got lowered to his level of parameters.

Probably toptier just by being a famous divine spirit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGeDpOluT_8
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>>124322319

Isn't A+ riding literally assimilating with the vehicle?
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>>124322318
Not the guy who replied to, not going against what you said either, just pointing out that stats rank and NP ranks don't work the same way.
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>>124322517
That's EX.
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>>124322105
Not a servant per se.
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>>124322387
That's A++ riding
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>>124322457

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEOCJeqoWVo

I like this one better.
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>>124322203
Look away bitch. Look away from my worm.
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>>124322550
When Fafnir and GH resist stuff, it's all down to the rank. NP or physical attack, it will go through if it is A.
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>>124322570
Violet is the only one with EX riding right?
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Liz in a box
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>>124322635
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>>124322635
Bullying A+ Riding.
>>124322769
So far, yes
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My luck sucks how do I buff it
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>>124322948
>Caster Gilles
>My luck sucks
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>>124322704
The + in stats aren't always active, the + in NPs are. However I do agree it has to be A and up, not B+, regardless of it being NP or stat.
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My Liz likes to hide in boxes.
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>>124322105
Mata Hari, probably.
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The word is ruined for me.
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>>124322457
This one is cute.

>>124322689
This one is cute and hilarious.

Herk is so moe.
If only more servant had a Disney movie, there could be more versions of these. Cu would work great with Disney.
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>>124322223
>cannot react fast enough
>with herks agi
Citation needed
>battle cont doing nothing
>herk vs rin fight
Citation needed

You're just proving my point that jetfags are deluded in their belief that the world recolves around lancelot.
You're almost as bad as urobutcher.

The fsct of the matter is lancelot can't even kill herk more than once and even once would most of the time be a mutual death
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>>124323079
The condition for God Hand is "Higher than B rank", which B+ is when the condition is met.
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>>124322457
>>124322689
I'm honestly wondering at this point if, in the case he'd be summoned as a more "heroic" class than Berserker, his incarnation would end up influenced by that movie.
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>>124322614
Someday.
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Would you like a pet Liz?
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>>124323136

This can't be real........
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>>124322948
>luck sucks
>with all those golds and a 5*
Muh subtle bragging
Fuck off
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>>124323061
Well instead it's Shakespeare that refuses to show up for some reason.
Casters are dicks.
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>>124323082
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>>124323213
Higher in rank, not number. It doesn't care that the NP C = 50~100 in terms of regular attacks. It also doesn't care that 80>50. It only cares about the literal rank.
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>>124323298
I'll take two.
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>>124322223
>can't react properly
not even a herkek and even I can tell you this is wrong, herk has enough proper reaction to not fall for arturias feints and to onesidely rape her even with her supposedly high skill
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>>124323381
Golds count as bragging now? How's your Gilles doing?
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>>124323298
Yes.
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>>124323456
Cute
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>>124323243
Is that a doujinshi?
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>>124323206
Not saying react fast enough, I'm saying react properly. Lancelot has reacted properly to many shit, managing to do stuff considered impossible because of his skill. Herc Eye of the Mind is only alert from danger, his skill remains the same, all he can do is try to protect himself by smashing around, which isn't the ideal approach for a lot of things.

And he stopped moving when Rin destroyed his head. Besides Rin only had that A ranked attack, she had no way to defend aftewards, while all of Lancelot physical attacks are capable of bypassing God Hand.

The fact of the matter is Lancelot can kill Herc all 12 times and Herc won't be able to even scratch Lancelot unless he is lucky. He has no way to do anything as a Berserker. Herc is just at his worst as a Berserker while Lancelot is probably at his best, isn't not even a fair match.
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>>124323545
B+ is a higher rank than B though.
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>>124323796
Yes, but not completed/scanned. It features Shinji.
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>>124322223
>Reacting to things is something skill based
So to react to stuff you need skill? Wouldn't it be more instinctual?


>Battle continuation means nothing since muh skill
Except thats not how a close ranged fight works. Skill doesn't automatically mean you can't get hit and once lancelot aims for the fatal blow, he'll die to the counter. Even if he narrowly dodges the counter, probablility of 12 times is against him.
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>>124322387
That fucking Iskander face
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>>124323852
Because it's still B.

B- , B and B+ all have a fucking B.

You need higher than B. Which means A.
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>>124321970
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>>124295330
Your math is shit, because your math is mostly just assuming.

Where are you getting the numbers on Arcuied that you think "This is such a fucking contradiction".

Although yeah, it is sated that Amaterasu is one of the strongest beings in Nasuverse at the moment. However understanding how powerful Ammy is, will lead to you understanding just how powerful TYPES really are eventually.

Any thing below full power Arc would lose to Ammy, but Ultimate One is Arc's greatest cheat for situations like that. This isn't something Arcuied can puss around against and only go at a percentage of her power. This is one of the rare things that requires her to use Ultimate One, since it is stronger than her normal form by far.
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>>124323612
That Saber not only is C AGI, but her skill is far inferior to Lancelot and her attacks had no way of harming Herc either. And being able to react properly is not all up to AGI, but skill.

As for feints, read the VN, she did a feint with her armor and he fell for it. Yes the material says he won't, but only to half-assed ones.
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>>124323972
>once lancelot aims for the fatal blow, he'll die to the counter
Combat isn't fucking league of legends where you trade blows, Lancelot's skill is unrivaled so he can avoid and parry blows and counterattack without danger to himself.
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>>124323831
So you're saying because of skill lancelot can't get hit whatsoever?
Are you okay in the head?
Do I need to post the countless times lancelot has been hit within fate zero?
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>>124283965
Why is this game so shit? Where's my EMIYA with Overedge? Why is
>>124323972
>12 times

He would Kill Heracles once. Then he'd die.
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>>124322797
Does she enjoy being a dragon?
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>>124324045
B- is lower than B and B+ is higher than B, friend. That's like saying 10.5 isn't higher than 10.
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>>124324073
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>>124323831
>Skill means you can dodge

You're fucking stupid please don't post anymore.

>All of Lancelot attacks are capable of bypassing God Hand

Except they're not, just once and that's it. God Hand nullifies him after than.

Just get fucked already.
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>>124324151
>Unrivaled meme
Is this seriously your argument?
Skill isn't some kind of omnipotence hich makes you immune to everything.
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>>124324318
+ and - are conditional boosts and debuffs though
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>>124324318
In numbers, not rank. GH and AoF only care about the latter. Hard number would be a whole different ballgame.
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>>124322146
Nope but here it is
"Haah....ah! I must have dozed off. Forgive me but it's not you it's just...um my sister's have tired me out...haaa"
Sorry for not getting to it sooner
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>>124324368
Skill is the difference between getting hit like a scrub and deftly dodging or parrying the enemy's clumsy blow.
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>>124324260
A good chunk of her dialog in CCC is bragging of her dragon heritage. She's called the Daughter of Dragons for that reason.
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>>124323972
>So to react to stuff you need skill? Wouldn't it be more instinctual?
Yeah, to react in an ideal way. Read Zero for examples.

>Skill doesn't automatically mean you can't get hit
It does when the gap is so huge like in Herc vs Lancelot case. Kiritsugu tried to hit Kirei with his knife even at double speed and he couldn't because SKILL, and Kirei could only use one hand at that point.

>he'll die to the counter
What makes you think Herc wont be disarmed by that point, what makes you think Lancelot can't react to the counter with an impossible stance like against Saber or like he did against GoB.
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Lancelot still can't kill Herk 12 times so all this unrivaled skill stuff doesn't matter.
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>>124323831
Not that anon, but Herc's combat prowess as a Berserker is still much higher than many non-Berserker Servants. And his parameters are really high, and that's without counting ME. To deal with him properly, Lancelot would need Arondhgit, and since God Hand works the way it works, killing Herc more than once with it would be difficult.

IMO, it would depend on both Servants' Masters, since activating Arondight and keeping Herc on the move requires a lot of prana.
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>>124324508
Its been 12 or 13 days m8 of non-stop lancelot autism.
Just give up, its not going to end until nasu himself tells them to fuck off.
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>>124324362
If Lacelot attacks with a pole and then with a toaster, each will be a separate weapon wielded with A rank strength. Lancelot would make it through four lives tops though.
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>>124324318
>I don't know how modifiers work.

- means supposed rank is not reliable, example is K&B.

+ means it can power up. Like Gae Bolg.
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>>124324452
B+ is a separate rank from B in itself though.
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Now all my 3 accounts have Liz.
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>>124324576
What makes you think herakles is on the same level as saber?
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>>124324592
Lancelot just needs to utilize random shit around the battlefield as weapons with A Str 12 times. Easy.
Literally the first thing he uses KoH on in F/Z is a lamp post so it's not like he needs literal weapons, and A Str can make even a D-rank NP bypass Dog Hand - this is canon.
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>>124324714
Sorry for your loss
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>>124324687
No. Modifiers are not ranks. There are only six ranks total.
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>>124324576
>Yeah, to react in an ideal way. Read Zero for examples.

Kek

>It does when the gap is so huge like in Herc vs Lancelot case. Kiritsugu tried to hit Kirei with his knife even at double speed and he couldn't because SKILL, and Kirei could only use one hand at that point.

>Comparing Kiritsugu to Heracles, who Shirou himself says DOESN'T NEED SKILL AT ALL.

>What makes you think Herc wont be disarmed by that point, what makes you think Lancelot can't react to the counter with an impossible stance like against Saber or like he did against GoB.

>Muh impossible stance
What is hyperbole. EMIYA and Saber were doing "impossible" things in HA. I think that means EMIYA is UNRIVALED too.

Kill yourself
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>>124324648
This is all just a bad dream. I have to wake up soon or I'll be late.
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>>124321648
Saber. In F/HA most of the others get jobs and are doing shit, she just sits around and eats.
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>>124324159
All were because of Saberface. Is Saber present? The only time he got hit was when he literally couldn't see shit, and even after that he could react to a follow-up killing blow because of skill.

>>124324362
You haven't read Zero don't post anymore.

Sure because God Hand nullified GoB :^).

Just get fucked already.
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>>124324825
>this is canon
You mean headcanon.
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>>124324467
>Sorry for not getting to it sooner

No problems, thank you. If you or someone else is going to add it to the pastebin it should be noted that it occurs when she's in a party with both Stheno and Euryale.
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>>124324825
Actually, if God Hand generates resistance towards the concept of KoH instead of "lamp" or "toaster", then Lancelot is horribly screwed. And that's a very likely possibility.
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This guy can handle both zerkers by himself.
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>>124295330
>that would make nine tailed Tamamo the most powerful being in Nasuverse by several orders of magnitude which is silly.

That's not what it means at all, unless you have the numbers of everyone else in the Nasuverse.

>>124322614
She is a servant, with a class and official classification.

Alter Egos are referred to as High Servants, but they are servants.
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>>124324825
A STR gets nullified. He can take 2 lives, 1 with his STR and 1 with Arondight.

Try again.

>>124324931
>Using GoB as an example

Next you're using EMIYA too because his A rank weapons come from UBW? Are you fucking stupid?

Jetfags confirmed for being Inbred.
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>>124324629
Not really. And ME part was retconned by Realta Nua.

Lancelot doesn't need Arondigh for Herc either.
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>>124324556
>A good chunk of her dialog in CCC is bragging of her dragon heritage. She's called the Daughter of Dragons for that reason.
Speaking of which, why does she has dragon heritage?
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>>124325037
He does not gain resistance to the person's general strength. It's to the attack that harms him.
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>>124324993
That's not how God Hand works, the description in the VN specifically refers to attacks. KoH is not an attack.
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>>124325004
A mushroom man can deal with all of them.

Servants are pathetic.
>>
Samson is the strongest berseker, prove me wrong.
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>>124324943
I'll make it a headcannon if you don't shut up.
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>>124324931
>muh strawman
Each of GoBs NPs are a different A rank killer.
Meanwhile lancelot is limited to only Arondight and his strength.
Once lancelot kills herakles twice (and somehow doesn't die on the counters), hes worthless.

What exactly does herakles negate in your opinion?
Would it negate the np used to kill him? If so than you're disproving your own argument as its known that lancelots nps are D rank and can't kill herk.

This isn't even mentioning herakles doesn't even need to die to gain resistance to the attacks.
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>>124325135
Not him, but from her FGO profile:
>As for the cause why she became a demi-dragon, one can mention the Bathory family crest (Dragon fangs).
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>>124325135
The Countess Dracula stuffs makes her gained that.
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>>124325037
STR is not an "attack".
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>>124325246
I can't
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>>124325135
Its due to the Dracul family heritage and crest. Dracul means dragon to begin with, and their root is dragonic association.

They are a family with dragon heritage, her father was in the order of dragons, and blah blah.

In real life it was more legend, in Nasuverse its taken literally. All legends are sort of true in Nasuverse.
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>>124325013
Even without number for other Servants, you must admit that 9^9 is FUCKING HUGE.
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>>124324931
>Attack with A rank weapon and gets a life
Attacks with that weapon get nullified

>Attack with another A rank weapon and gets another life
Attacks with that weapon get nullified

That's how GoB works.

So
>Lancelot attacks with A STR
Lancelots A STR gets nullified since it was what took a life.
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>>124324817
He is below in terms of skill.

>>124324870
>EMIYA and Saber were doing "impossible" things in HA.
Literally stated that's the reason why they were Servants to begin with. Lancelot feats are impossible for Servant standards (read the novel), and the reaction of other Servants to those feats even confirm what the narrator said even further.
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>>124325293
So what dies herakles gain resistance to?
Slashing?
How many times can lancelot slash before running out?
Bashing?
How many times can lancelot bash before running out?
Piercing?
How many times can lancelot pierce before running out?
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>>124325356
Not how God Hand works. It nullifies attacks, not concepts like strength.
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>>124325262
>>124325289
>made her gain that

It was confirmed in her Berserker profile, the blood of dragons really did flow within her family line from the start. It wasn't due to innocent monster, rather innocent monster only brought what was inside into the light.

This is the reason she has A rank magic resistance as Berserker.
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>>124323381
>>124323684
I'd say 5 4* stars and 1 5* stars is pretty average for a F2P player.
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>>124325438
Except its right in that herakles gains resistance to LANCELOTS PHYSICAL ATTACKS.
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>>124325129
Do you ever get tired of posting the same pic and getting proved wrong by Shirou himself saying that Heracles DOESN'T NEED technique?

>>124325438
>Muh headcanon

Nice argument. Lancelot is attacking with his A rank STR because His D rank NPs don't get past God Hand.
So A rank STR is what harmed him, so A rank STR gets nullified.
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>>124325352
Arcuied isn't a servant

You can't really pretend that you can say that this thing is "Woah, strongest thing in Nasuverse, stronger than ORT and Arc or all of them" when you're kind of guessing on how strong everything is beyond servants.

Servants can be gauged a bit, everything else beyond that, not as much.
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>>124325356
What if KoH gets nullified
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>>124325597

>Arcuied isn't a servant
>Translation: I haven't played extra
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>>124325703
unrivaled autism desu
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>>124325037
A STR getting nullfied is as stupid as GoB getting nullified. Don't make excuses, GoB is the NP. What he gains resistance against is attacks. STR is not an attack.

>>124325257
GoB is the NP, it doesn't get blocked because it's using different attacks. God Hand gains resistance to attacks, STR is not an attack. Saying STR would be nullified is as stupid as saying GoB is nullified.

>>124325356
STR is not the attack you retard.
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>>124325438
So what does god hand negate in your opinion than?
It doesn't care about the weapon since its D rank so what exacatly does herakles gain resistance too?
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>>124325597
>Who is Arcueid Berserker ?
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>>124325584
Not "Lancelot's physical attacks". It's not as conveniently vague and general as that, which you'd know if you actually read FSN instead of being a secondary.
You might as well claim it makes him immune to the concept of being attacked at all, at this rate.
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>>124325689
Don't be a snide bitch; she still can't entirely be called a servant there, even her profile says as much. She's more something that Gatou found on Mt,Everest, and brought with him to the Mooncell as she thought it might just be a bit of fun.

After that she was slapped with Madness Enchant, and became mindless, but she's something entirely different from servants from the start.

She was also greatly weakened in that form. So no that isn't a gauge to be used for Ammy. That's no real measure of Arcuied.
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>>124325689
She wasn't summoned. She just walked into the Mooncell. The Mooncell was like yeah okay whatever and gave her Servant parameters and a class.
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>>124325771
>doesn't know how GoB works
Fucking secondary.
Every single one of the fucking "attacks" gob throws out is a np. All gob does is store them.
Ergo they're all individual different attacks and concepts
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>>124325589
You are clearly baiting at this point. Lancelot has the same stats and skills do boost him, even though he wouldn't need it either.

And STR is not an attack either you retard.
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>>124325473
>03 - Magic Resistance [A]
>A hidden skill that even the person herself is unaware of.
>It was believed that she was a fabrication created through "Innocent Monster," but the blood of dragons truly is mixed with her own.
>She is endowed with a Magic Resistance of the same caliber as the Saber of Fate/stay night.
>It source is the Bathory family's coat of arms. That family's coat of arms was a shield-shape based on red fang, symbolizing the dragon's bravery, strength, cruelty in never leaving an enemy alive.
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>>124325675
It won't same reason UBW or GoB don't.

But the only difference is that while Gil and Archer depend on the ranks of their NPs(that get nullified after 1 kill) Lancelot depends only on his STR when using KoH.

So A STR gets nullified and KoH can't save him because shitty D rank.

To mate it pretty easy to understand, what harms Heracles is not the shitty D rank, it's Lancelot's STR. So Lancelots STR gets nullified.

God Hand is just bullshit, it's not supposed to be fair at all, after all Heracles is one of the strongest servants ever, to the point he needed to be nerfed in the story by giving him a class that gimps him so that he would kill everyone with his bow.

That's how it is, dunno why Jetfags get so annoying with lancelot when the other is HERCULES. I mean Hercules is the most famous hero, ever.
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>>124325808
It would still negate the weapon since that's the method of attack. A STR is just what allows the attack to bypass the damage negation in the first place.
Think of it in vaguely tabletop terms. Herc has DR Infinity which can bypassed with A rank attacks. This can be a weapon's own power level (think enhancement bonuses in D&D, except with letters instead of numbers like +5 or anything), or the strength modifier. The feat that grants him the DR also removes the bypass clause for the weapon/spell/skill/feat used to attack him with in the first place.
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>>124325160
If he's damaged by fire, in any form, he'd gain "resistance to fire" after that. It doesn't mateter if it's a flamethrower, a napalm bomb or a fire spell. And that's been stated in the VN. Every and all attacks with a KoH'd object would probably act as the same concept, which woulld be KoH.

Also, many people seem to assume that all and every attack from Lancelot would be a killing blow, which hardly would be the case.
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>>124325838
Except you're arguing with nothing but headcanon you filthy secondary.
>it doesn't work like that because I say so
Yet lancelots aattacks are all just his physical attacks.
And yes thats what herk gains resistance to.
>>
SasakixMartha:OLD AND BUSTED
SasakixMedea lily: NEW HOTNESS
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>>124325952
GoB IS the NP though. The effect of the NP is what you are describing. Read fucking materials, Gilgamesh parts. What's listed as a NP is GoB.
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>>124326078
NP rank doesn't count unless activated at a NP. GH would probably block NP guns because it's not a physical attack, but melee weapons would fall under Lancelot's strength.
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>>124326110
If Shirou could analyze Herc for 9 lethal attack points, you think Lancelot can't with EAM?
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>>124317616
>gawain.png
Why does Gawain look like Martha in this pic?
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>>124326236
Is this ntr
>>
Why the fuck do people try to talk sense with jetfags?
They're deluded and in their own world.
The very fact they use the antijet boogeyman shows just how deep within their autistic world they are.
Just give up and move on.
Arguing with them is like arguing with that retarded and autistic kid from your school. Would you beat up and argue with them when they don't understand anything at all?
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>>124326308
You mean the blind and x10 times crazier heracles that doesn't even use his EoTM anymore?
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>>124326113
Herc didn't gain resistance to vague concepts like "____'s physical attacks" or "____'s magical attacks" in FSN. Archer killed him multiple times without even using UBW.
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>>124326390
>Has sex with Lily
>Fuck with Medea by saying he is now her first
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>>124326236
>>124288186
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>>124326113
Herc gained resistance to "GoB attacks". Nice to know. In fact, he gained resistance to the concept of A, A+ and A++ ranked NPs,
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>yfw half of these posts on /fgog/ are made by bots
there's no other explanation for being able to argue the same powerlevel shit nonstop for months on end
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I hope you have a great weekend with your waifu /fgog/.
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>>124326308
>against blind herc
Ayy?
>>124326454
Yes because he has multiple DIFFERENT nps to do it with.
Meanwhilst lancelot only has his str.
Not once did emiya kill herc with his str so yes you're arguing with nothing but headcanon
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>>124326519
Clearly Herc is unstoppable after one death then, since he gains immunity to the concept of being attacked or killed ever again.
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>>124326432
Blackened Servants are stronger and he didn't use EoTM because Nine Lives was too fast. It has nothing to do with him being blind.
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>>124326558
But can Archer herk beat saber lancelot?
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>>124326454
>I don't know how UBW works
All of Archer's NPs come from UBW.

So >>124326078
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IT'S TIME ANONS.

>first Servant you rolled that does not count rerolls and what you think about it
>most useful Servant that you have
>best male Servant introduced in the game by personality
>best female Servant introduced in the game by personality

Pic not related.
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>>124326583
>Yes because he has multiple DIFFERENT nps to do it with.
>what is Knight of Honor
Reminder that KoH specifically turns the touched object itself into a noble phantasm, so Herc is attacked with "random metal pole, the noble phantasm" not "knight of honor, the noble phantasm".
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>>124326558
>months
Its only been bit less than 2 weeks.
Last I checked this is the 18th thread ruined by jetfags.
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>>124326454
Yeah, let us ignore that Archer can trace A rank Broken Phantasm to kill Heracles while Lencelot can only gain D rank NP shit.
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>>124326454
Actually, it does. God Hand made useless Medea's magic attacks.
>>
>Illuminati is evil

What's this meme?
>>
>>124326110
So, according to you >>124326519 is true. Fuck, Herkeks really are fucking retarded.
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>>124326695
And how does this negate the fact that Archer kills Herc multiple times without changing NPs?
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>>124326703
Are those nps A rank?
If not than fuck off
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>>124326807
The illuminati is just jetfag posing as different people
>>
>>124326796
BASED
THE ARGUMENTS ENDS
Someone post citation of this so jetfags and herkeks can finally stop fighting.
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>>124326747
Doesn't matter, he can use A STR to bypass god hand and swap temporary NPs when Herc becomes immune to his current one.
inb4 "but the concept of STR is an attack!!!"
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>>124326519
Herc become immune to anything that hurts or kills him. In the case of GoB, it the A rank NP shoot that killed him, so he became immune to them.

For Lancelot, it's not the shitty NP he gains with KoH that kill Herc, but his A STR.

See the difference ?
>>
>>124326707
how new are you
>>
>>124326695
That would mean Herc gains resistance to A ranked NPs.

>>124326583
Herc would gain resistance to the rank of the NP according to you Herkeks.

>>124326796
After harming him 3 times. That's because she ran out of spells that are above A you stupid fuck. If it was like you are saying it would have stopped at 1.
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>>124326818
Actually, Herc IS retardedly broken. As another anon said, keep in mind that he is Heracles, one of the most broken heroes ni all history. and we're only seeing him as a Berserker, I don't even want to imagine him as Archer.
>>
New thread
>>124326843
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>>124327000
Why would herakles gain immunity to the D rank np instead of lancelots physical attacks?
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>>124326639
No, he doesn't "use" EoTM because he's blind, x10 times CRAZIER and only charges forward.
>>
>>124326696
1. Martha is cute, also voice by Hayami so even better.
2. Saber, because she fits with almost any team
3. Ceasar
4. A toss up between Martha, Bootyca or Kiyohime.
>>
>>124327020
Read the VN. It says he becomes immune to the attack. STR is not an attack, it's just what lets the attacker bypass GH in the first place.
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>>124327020
Are you stupid? It's the weapon that gets resisted against.
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>arguing about which fictional character would win a fight that will never happen
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>>124327000
Except that GH garant him immunity to what killed/hurted him. It's not the D rank NP that killed Herc, but A STR, then he gains resistance against it.

It's as simple as that.
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>>124327159
Nice headcanon
Why would herakles gain resistance to the weapon instead of lancelots physical attacks?
>>
>>124327020
No, you are arguing that he would gain resistance against A ranked NP as a concept itself.

He would gain resistance to "slashing attack with sword" or something along those lines, not the STR.
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>>124327259
Because it's the weapon killing him. Unless Lancelot uses his noodle arms to break Heracles' neck. Then who knows.
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>>124326282
>being this much of a fucking secondary

It's mentioned multiple times whenever Gilgamesh shows up that every single thing in GoB is a NP. It's not the "effect". The effect of GoB is to allow Gilgamesh to access everything he owned in life. In life he owned what essentially amounts to almost every NP in existence, so he has access to them as a spirit.

He's not attacking with shit that looks just like a NP, he is attacking with literal NPs.
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>>124327152
Being blind has nothing to do with EoTM. This is as bad as the headcanon saying Herc didn't have his God Hand because muh skin.
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>>124327184
Have you never been to /a/?
If not, have you ever seen faggots, nerds and idiots arguing about fictional characters?
It happens all the time with every fantasy work.
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>>124327375
Except herakles doesn't care about the weapon since its a D rank np.
What killed herc was the A str, not the D rank np.
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>>124305518
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>>124327539
What killed Herc was the attack, not the STR.
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>>124327726
No, it's the A STR that allowed the attack to hurt him.
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>>124327539
NP doesn't come into account unless activated. Karan's EX rank spear means fuck all when Karna's just beating it over Siegfried's head (except for Karna breaking the rules because he's Karna).
>>
>"Doctor, what killed my husband?"
>"The fact that the man who stabbed him had the strength of a grown man and not that of a child."
>>
>>124327106
No, it won't stop it after getting hit by only one. But after the first, the second will deal less damage. And the third, even less. And so on, until the damage becomes 0. In Medea's case, it only took 3 attacks, and saying "she ran out of spells!" is just dumb, being a sorceress from the Age of Gods.

And to >>124326818, Gate of Babylon just shoots out different NPs inside of it, disregarding Gil's STR, just like EMIYA's projections. Now, the question is... If you hit Herc with Gram, then with Caliburn and then with Merodach, would he get resistance to all of them separately, or would count as the same?

But yeah, the only way for Lancelot to definitely kill Herc is to use Arondight at its full power and hope it takes all his lives in one huge attack.
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>>124327924
God Hand doesn't work that way. It's clearly satated that even if the attack has the power to blow up the Earth, if it's not A rank or above, it won't hurt Herc.
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>>124326696
>Darius, he is my favorite of the roaring Berserkers
>Atalanta
>Blackbeard
>Ushi
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>>124326696
1. Saber Giles. His lack of eyebrows confuses me.
2. Waver. Buffs are great.
3. David. Best jew.
4. Tamamo Cat.
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>>124326696
>Jing Ke
She's still my go to assassin
>EMIYA
Spamming NPs can be fun
>I don't really like any of the new males
>Marie
Marie a cute.
>>
>>124326696
Boudica, tiddies

Saber Alter

Blackbeard most definitely

if unobtainable counts, Jeanne Alter, otherwise Kiyohime
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>>124328086
Being a sorceress from the Age of Gods doesn't mean you have more than 3 offensive A and up spells.

Doesn't matter because you people are arguing that Herc would be gaining resistance to the concept of NP itself, not the NP that harmed him.

But yeah, Lancelot can take all of Herc lives while Herc won't even be able to touch him.

>>124327820
And what he gains resistance against are attacks.
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>>124326696
>Darius
Black and Gold Giga Nigga with the Gundam particles. Great design and sprite. Held back by being a 3*. According to his bio, he is actually obedient for a Berserker, so I think of him as being akin to Heracles.
>Cu
>Blackbeard
>Ushiwakamaru
>>
>>124326696
>Mephistopheles, I like him but I don't want to put the resources in to level him
>Saber Alter
>Hector or Blackbeard
>Ushi
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>>124326696

>Boudica, very alluring and housewife material
>Lancelot, buster+crit is amazing. Fvck it with powerlevelfags
>Hector-ossan, who else?
>Okita, that endfight quote man, giving me diabetes
>>
>>124326696
Matahari, boobs
Liz
Blackbeard or Hector
Ushi or Martha
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