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Last thread on page 10 with 850+ replies get it together Edition


Beaten like a dead horse >>123991832


>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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Darkbeast
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Does Ludwig's second mouth have eyes on the inside? Creepy.
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>yfw this patch is groundwork for the Cainhurst DLC
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>>124017719
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>>124017725
Lined with eyes

I'd love to know what happened to him, and why he is a stinky screaming beast until his sword makes him a majestic manhorsebeast
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>EU
no patch.
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>>124017778
It can't have been 9gb. I downloaded it in like 10 minutes and the previous patch that actually had the DLC in it took like eight hours.

I'm hopeful though
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>>124017778
That'd be a treat, but I'll hold in my hype.
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>>124017778
There will be no more new content for bloodborne anon. Don't hype yourself up for something that will never exist to begin with, you'll only let yourself down.
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New character for my Moonlight build.

He's ready.
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>finally work some half-decent sliders
>try to go for delicious brown
>comes out as blood-slathered red
god fucking damn it
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>>124018189
Never......ever?
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Whats the best way to test pvp damage without actually pvping?
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>>124018189

>kobra
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>>124018083
>I'll hold in my hype
>Literally never going to happen, a joke made on /bbg/
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>>124018243
>he
worse than all of my ladymen combined tbqh familia
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>>124018083
>>124017910
>>124018189
Yea I wasn't being serious, but could it have something to do with that rumored Chalice Dungeon patch? It's 9.3GB...
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>>124018243
GRIFFIIIITH
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>>124018278
I recall reading somewhere that this will be the only expansion since the team is now focused on dark souls 3 and whatever other exclusive from/sony collaboration is in the works
hopefully bloodborne 2, or another soulslike game with a different set and setting but same mechanics.
>>124018387
It wasn't actually that big, sometimes updates on PSN can glitch and make it seem like it's fucking huge due to patches being released close to one another.
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Its less than 200 mb update
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>>124018387
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Patch downloaded, it was small, but it said it was 9.3gb for some reason. 1.08 and the server is still down under maintenance.

No chalice fun for me tonight it seems. Why live?

In other news, can somebody point me at places where I can farm Bloodtinge radials?
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>>124018459
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>Fixed a bug where players could get the Old Hunters DLC for free
>Changed moveset of Beasthunter Saif, Whirligig Saw, and Simon's Bowblade trick weapons
>Lowered damage of Whirligig Saw
>Added +40% Physical Blood Gems
>Any new Chalice Dungeons now scale with New Game playthrough
>Fixed Fist of Gratia not allowing for Visceral Attacks

From gamefaqs

What the fuck have they done to my Pizza Cutter
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How much endurance do I need for a decent beastfag build to maintain my R1 spam beasthood meter? Never really gave a shit about the claws until the new DLC added a full on werewolf mode.

Aiming for BL98, if that makes a difference.
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>>124018532
Awww. Oh well, I can't say I'm not happy with what I already have. But it's hard to not want more when they nailed such a great concept on the head
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>>124018614
>bloodtinge radials
where you farm other bloodtinge gems
just hold out for that 1%, and the right curse
and not bt scaling
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>>124018728
>>Changed moveset of Beasthunter Saif, Whirligig Saw, and Simon's Bowblade trick weapons

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>124018663
No Griffith in my /bbg/
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>>124018728
Fake as fuck
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>>124018728
ya blew it
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>>124018728
That was a joke retard. Look at the spoilered text.
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>>124018742
I would be content playing nothing but bloodborne with successive updates/new content every 3/4 months
the game is just so good.
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>>124018810
I hope so anon
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Little help here lads?

Violent Past
Vit 50
End 15
Str 50
Skl 12
Blt 6 (base)
Arc 7 (base)

Gonna be using Pizza Cutter and Amy Arm. Not sure if I should get Arc to 15 to use some tools or bump up either Skl or End a little more.
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Ludwig is a fucking bullshit boss. Fuck him and his autistic instakill rage moves.
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>>124018728
Sorry cut off the end:

>Made Eileen romance path easier to find
>Fixed Analise turning you down
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>>124018943
Ludwig is fine, learn to play better.
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>>124018943
git gud
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>>124017890
God knows how long Ludwig has been inserting crazy church blood into himself. You know, the bad blood. The one Willem warned Laurence of.
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>>124018810
>>124018861
>>124018863
pls kill me

At least my Pizza Cutter is safe
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>>124018943

Improve upon your performance, comrade
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>>124018247
Thank God for that preset save feature
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Ng+ dlc is so hard at lvl 95, should i git gud or make a new character. I kind of want to try a more minmax build
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>>124018943
>not breezing through him on your first attempt
Time to get good anon
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>>124018728

>Added +40% Physical Blood Gems

WHAT
H
A
T
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>>124018997
I can romance my Feathered Lady now?!? Bloodborne confirmed GOTY.
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>>124018943

Just level up or summon.
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Servers when?! I feel so alone.
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Is it finally back up?
Last time I tried to play offline my Loran chalice turned into a Defiled P for some reason.
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>>124018730
I got 15 plus the 3rd tier end rune on my beast claw guy and is more than enough to spam to your hearts content
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Chikage Anon from the last thread, thanks you for posting that video. I'm trying to master the Chikage and your video was a really good watch. The moveset is hard to use on good players, but I'm still sticking with the weapon. Thank you, Drisful, if that's your name, because I think I remember you from one of the FCs
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>>124019285
>just summon
>summon
>s
>u
>m
>m
>o
>n
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>>124017518

Beast Pellets are great. Wish they added ay lmao pellets too.
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>>124017890
I think when you first start the fight either he is in the midst of going insane or he has like another personality in his head or something that is that of a beast. Once he sees the moonlight ludwig comes to the surface and takes over (don't know why he would still fight you since you are clearly a hunter and he only fights beasts, but whatever).
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>>124019285
Servers are going to be down for days, anon.

I've been trying to use henriette but that bitch is so lame
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>>124019323
suck his cock
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>That one boss that ALWAYS gives you trouble.

Who is it /bbg/?

Vicar Amelia for me.
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>>124018943
Ludwig is my favourite boss of all Souls
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>First Bloodborne run
>Going through some spooky witch village
>Enter some spooky dark barn thing with witches and dogs and shit
>Do some exploring, enter a room with a shiny at the other end
>Briefly blinded by the greed, approach the shiny without looking around
>Hear a grunt behind me
>Turn around just in time to see grandpa in a wheelchair, Blunderbuss ready
>Oneshot

Well played From. Not even mad.
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Whoever was the VA for Ludwig should get a metal for his horse impression

>>124019457
Keeper if she gets her buff off
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>>124019457

Defiled Amygdala. Fucking piece of shit 1 shotting you restarting the fight.
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>>124019457
Witches of Hemwick
Stop surprise paralysing me then oki'ing me you fuks
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>>124019457
Abhorrent beast. That range is fucking ridiculous.
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>>124019527
>metal
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>>124019508
Nice blog
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Anyone knows what the lyrics mean on gehman's theme?
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>>124019586
>doesn't know the metal meme
get out
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Correct me if I am wrong but now in NG+ you can buy mats make an Isz chalice, get the root then make a CFR Isz and start farming gems.
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>>124018532
It's been confirmed that there will be no more souls and soulslike games. So no more bloodborne.
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>>124019624
Roughly translated to generic anime op lyrics.
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>>124019597

That picture is amazing.
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>>124017890
the sword and it's light kept him sane through the countless hunts he participated in. the sword is eldritch in nature, and has some kind of connection to the messengers as well. we know that the longer you resist transformation, the more horrifying the eventual transformation is. which is why clerics became the worst beasts of all, because they normally have a much higher resistance to going bad.

Ludwig is the top cleric specimen, and had contact with a magic sword that kept him sane far longer than he otherwise might have. it also gave him insight. so when he eventually transformed, he just practically burst at the seams with bullshit, including, of course, a second head with 'eyes on the inside" because of hisn contact with the magic sword.

when the sword activates mid fight, it yet again, does its job, and makes him regain his rational human thought
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>>124019624
>wake me up
>can't wake up

I think I'm close.
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>>124019707

Bloodborne 2 is already in development nigger
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Got Saif to +10 and loving it so far, wanna try a STR weapon now. What's more fun in your opinion, pizza cutter, beast cutter or amy arm?
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>>124019707
No it hasn't. Sony and from are likely working on a ps4 exclusive soulslike game as we speak. They'd be idiots to stop making such wildly successful games.
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>>124018247
>he doesn't like red girls
Absokekinglutely pleb tier tbqh family member
She needs to be redder
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>>124019597
>We are not here to share stories of the game

You need to know how to use 'nice blog'

If he had said

>First Bloodborne run
>Not really feeling it due to argument with my gf
>enter some spooky barn with a shiny thing
>it reminds me of the cave in aladdin, my favorite movie
>Run at it but grandpa was there and one shot me
>Say 'fuck it' and chill to some vaporwave

Then you would have a point. All he said was stuff related to the game
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>>124019764
Big M said he didn't want to make anymore after Ds3.
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I'm not going back to /dsg/ i tell you what. This has been going on for YEARS
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>>124019727
>mfw you actually are
the opening means this in latin
>"libera me (ex) somna ora"
>"free me from the sleep, I beg"
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>>124019764

You wish.
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>>124019764
No it isn't you retard. Not by FROMsoft anyway. Sony can do whatever they want with the IP, but miyazaki said himself that dark souls 3 is the end of all soulslike games for quite a while.
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>>124019323
don't forget to like and subscribe to my patreon, twitter, instagram, and facebook page
yw, it's a super fun weapon with a bad name but only fags know who obobobobo is anyway
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>>124019457

Marty Logarius
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>>124019874
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>>124019874
>Living Failure
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>>124019874
Can we just make a PS4 edition thread for dark souls 3? I really don't want to deal with PC faggots
>>124019898
just like hideo kojima said no more metal gear games after 4, right anon?
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>>124018532
I just don't understand FROM anymore. I mean bloodborne could it be more of a game if they should it had give it more time instead of dark souls 3. Sure dark souls 3 will be much more better and different than dark souls 2 but bloodborne has so much pontential with the story. But still i'm strangely satified with the game anyway even though it was a short experience. Pretty sure it will take another years for another game to be like bloodborne.
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>>124019764
the project that was supposedly confirmed is probably just a demon's souls remaster, if there is any FROM/sony project still in the works
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>>124019827
You are so fucking retarded it hurts.

"It'd be a lie if I said I have no concerns about that. I don't think it'd be the right choice to continue indefinitely creating Souls and Bloodborne games. I'm considering Dark Souls 3 to be the big closure on the series. That's not just limited to me, but From Software and myself together want to aggressively make new things in the future."

Straight from Miyazaki's lips.

Sony can make a new bloodborne type game since they own the IP, but it will be made by a different developer team, and may not be soulslike at all.
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>>124019717
>the sword is eldritch in nature
source
>when the sword activates mid fight, it yet again, does its job, and makes him regain his rational human thought
But he continues to beat you up

I see that speech as him realizing the sword is what led him astray. The fact it is the moonlight sword also invites Moon Presence thoughts
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>>124020023
Well keep our thread contained with bloodborne. it's the only way.
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>>124019447
>henriette
>not valtr
summon valtr and pull your weight so he doesn't die halfway through the first phase
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>>124019857
Who cares about him. Also, he probably was talking about DaS only, not the Sony IPs.
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>>124019874
I don't care what people say about the threads always being shit, the console wars shit killed Souls discussion.
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>>124020082
Why wouldn't he continue to beat him up you tard? You're literally trying to kill him, he's defending himself. He might even know he's a beast and you're a beast hunter.
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>>124019457
Used to be BSB until I "walk right side"
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>>124019882
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Is level 171 a good place to be to play the dlc on ng+??
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>>124020023
>because one guy says it and doesn't continue doing it that means all people are doing it

Firstly, Kojima was never president of konami. Secondly Kojima said that about mg2, 3, and revengeance. Thirdly, you've never been right about anything and are the definition of fucking down syndrome. Fourthly, kill yourself.
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>>124020238
too low.
need at least 250
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>>124020238
did you just come from reddit?
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>>124020123
Who the fuck is Valtr? I haven't played for months until the DLC came out, hopped on my NG+ and i'm getting fucking REKT
I've been trying to use that bell that heals your allies
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>>124020183
>He might even know he's a beast and you're a beast hunter.
So he tried to beat you up instead of using his voice to say 'Hey, sorry about that, I'm ok now, let's go kill some beasts' ? He has not regained his sanity then you tard
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>>124020238
thats well overleveled
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>>124020062
Nowhere in that quote does he specifically say he's going to completely stop making games based on the souls-style genre, just no indefinitely bloodborne and dark souls sequels, which is fine.
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Would /bbg/ kindly post their wimminfolk? I need ideas.
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>>124020238
Yah i finished mine at level 128 on ng+++
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>>124020023
As if majority of people in /dsg/ and people who used to be there are not in /bbg/ as well and are going to be in any souls general people create.
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>>124020313

Woah look out kids we have a badass here.

Don't you have to sleep soon? School tomorrow right?
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>>124020238
80 is fine.
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>>124019017
>>124019052
>>124019124
well meme'd
>>124019285
I'm lvl 71 and literally cannot summon
>>124019493
shit taste m8
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>>124020197
BSB was the boss that taught me to just go balls out 24/7 on bosses in my first playthrough.

>Umpteenth fucking death on BSB
>Tired of this shit, pop a beast pellet and go absolutely ham on him
>Dodge every single attack save for one where the camera got a little fucky near a pillar
>End him with a visceral attack

Bloodborne also definitely has the most satisfying 'BOSS DESTROYED' effect with the wind/explosion thing going on.
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>>124020340
I wasn't the same anon that said that.
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>>124020023
I'll be playing DaS3 on PC if it's out at the same time as the console versions but desu I can't stand PCfags so I wouldn't mind a BB/DaS3 PS4 only thread.

Hell even Xboners wouldn't be bad, we still had great DaS1 threads with them after the initial shitflinging before release.

You literally can't even be in the same area as most PCfags they're that obnoxious.
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When will FromSoft allow us to play online again?

I-I miss you guys...
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>>124020043
There were 3 projects that were rumored, actually.
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>>124020396
anon, you're not fourteen and this isn't the youtube comments section
use your big kid memes now
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Killing Gehrman without killing the Orphan will send him to the Hunter's Nightmare 5ever. Doll confirms it.
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>>124020082
>>124020082
he probably wanted to keep you from the research hall
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>>124020352
We got a fantastic game with bloodborne, one I'll go back and play. If they keep making good games, then all is well.
We shouldn't let these games become dmc. There's clearly a stopping point and going beyond it always changes the nature of the game.
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>>124020498

Demon Souls Remastered
Dark Souls 1 Remastered
Armored Core reboot
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>>124020478
I'm responding to a quote in the very post I quoted. If you are not that anon, you are a completely unrelated anon, and your post is redundant
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Posted in a dead thread

Is it possible to get the same darkish grey/green skin that Simon and the Suspicious Beggar have?

If so, how do?
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>>124020454
BSB is very easy to parry. The only thing that gets me is the grab attack that one shots you in the defiled chalice.
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>>124019707
never said no more souls like, just souls
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>yfw they show a teaser for their next idea, Project Breast
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Before I go bust my ass for the Beast Claws, how viable are they for PVE?
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>>124020692
How good are you at not getting hit?
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>>124020498
oh shit
hype
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>>124020513

Bullshit
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>>124020692
that's where they shine, they're pretty shit for pvp even with beast mode
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>>124020313
The president of a game developing company isn't going to stop making games in an incredibly successful and profitable genre because "lol we wanna try sumthin new"
that's flat out bad business.
>>124020483
i'll take xboners and sonyfags in a thread over PC fucks any day of the week. I watched /dsg/ turn to complete shit overnight with the PC release of dark souls 1. Sad day.
>>124020590
Bloodborne was similar but very different from dark souls. They could do the same thing with a new title, make a ton of money, and try different things at the same time. It would be foolish to suddenly stop making one of your most profitable products in the name of 'lol we're bored lets do something completely different'
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>>124019457
Used to be Amy for me until I started visiting hemwick and old yarnham first, but I don't think the Orphan of Kos will ever be even close to easy for me.
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>>124020513
I played through the entire DLC with Gehrman dead and Moon Presence waiting and no such thing occurs.
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>>124020660
>It's a shitty Vita weebwank facilitator

t-thanks
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>>124020692

>bust my ass
>literally 5 minutes of work
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>>124020454
I killed all bosses up until BSB first try my first playthrough. I must've died somewhere around 20 times and I farmed at least 1 hour for vials and antidotes. I was so fucking mad that night especially as friends who got their asses handed to them by Cleric and Gascoigne killed him within a couple of attempts.
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>>124020359
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>>124018243
i like this
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>>124020692
How do I get a cel-shaded texture for my bloodborne
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post Chalices ideas:
>Fisherman's Chalice
Hamlet Enemies
Gems that Change the weapon scalling like "all bloodtingue damage will deal arcane damage/fire damage"
>Sacred Kos chalice
1 Bonfire
3 Bosses
Dying to a boss will revive the others
Killing the last boss will let you revive has a "Stronger Breed" with BL4, with 9 in all attributes
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>>124019838
then here's some more Red Delicious for you, you disgusting deviant

inb4 "why the long face"
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>>124020658
>>124020352
Because there is no word for "soulslike" in japanese.
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Guys what gets me the most pvp? I'm level 98, looking for NF and maybe FC pvp, but should
I go to 120? Seems really high. 98 even seems high. Is it to late for me?
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>>124020938
>dat lips
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>>124020754
>>124020352
>>124020658

Does this mean we still have a chance for Egypt Soulsborne?
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What is the best str skill weapon besides ludwig?

I'm bored of it, but my stat allocation is just too far gone to try single stat focused weapons.
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>>124020724
Decent?
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>>124020754
remember when dsg got raided by /d/?
fucking pcfags
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>>124020938
>Dicksucking lips

Ahh, gas. Or some say gasm.
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>>124021017

Ngl I thought this was a Gratia cosplay.
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>>124021075
Please, my cock can only get so hard.
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>>124021017
Why the long redder, dammit
good job
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>>124021120
>not jizz/jism

one job

one blowjob
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>>124021075
>Egyptian Souls

Holy fuck I didn't realize how much I wanted this.

>More bosses like Old hero

YES
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>>124021075

I would buy it so hard.
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>>124021148
I'm curious, who is this gratia I've somehow emulated against my knowledge
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>>124021275
>eyy baby you want this shocker? I got it right here
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>>124021075
Gimme that or PirateBorne.
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>>124018614
I'm going to assume its now going to be lumped in to the DLC patch so no one gets that exploit bug
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>>124021319
"The hulking hunter woman Simple Gratia, ever hopeless when handling hunter firearms, preferred to knock the lights out of beasts with this hunk of iron, which incidentally caused heavy stagger.

Gratia was a fearsome hunter, and to onlookers, her unrelenting pummelling appeared oddly heroic. No wonder this weapon later assumed her name."

Taken straight from the Fist Of Gratia offhand
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>>124021148
holy shit it could be too!
>>124021319
Wondrous amazon
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>>124020082
the source is the sword and the guidance rune. the tiny beings of light are phantasms. its also explicitly labeled an arcane sword and the arcane is associated with the eldritch
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Next from game after das3 will be fallout new tokyo
you heard it first heere lads
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>>124021367

>pirateborne
>we get to have more environments similar to the Fishing Hamlet
>BOSS BATTLES ON SHIPS

hell yes motherfucker
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Are there npc summons for maria?
pls i need help
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>>124021367

>instead of simple 1 on 1 human invasions you invade with your whole ghost pirate ship and ghostly undead crew of players
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>>124021075
We already have it, go to loran.
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>>124020359
check the previous thread.
there were a bunch of em
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>>124021482
So it's an arcane sword, not an eldritch sword?

>>124021498
>A good fallout game
Don't tease me
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>>124019457
logarius
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>>124021450
>>124021473
oh, THAT gratia

I completely forgot

I guess it's a sheer coincidence this character was made as a primary str build about two months before TOH came out
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>>124021367
I'd love for the next souls "spinoff" to introduce a huge new game mechanic like ship sailing or something. I love these games, but I'd really like to see them introduce something totally game-changing.
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>>124021518

Summon old hunter right before her gate
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>>124020023
I just dont want to deal with the rampant shitposters that inhabit /dsg/ and if that means a ps4 only general then whatever. /Dsg/ has dropped off in quality so fucking hard in the last year its unbelievable. This general may have had its mishaps but its still an overall good place to come and talk about the game
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>>124021564
>invade another player's ship, fight all his NPCs up to the boss which is a player-boss like the old monk for endgame rewards
i don't think i'd ever play another game
>>124021075
>egyptborne
just fund it already from god damn
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>>124021367
>LITERALLY
>I
>T
>E
>R
>A
>L
>L
>Y
FISHING HAMLET
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>No further Irreverent Izzy info
>Even new beast claw NPCs added, no Irreverent Izzy tho

More info on her tho pls
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just got to yahar'gul, does these fucking shit maidens show up in all the following zones? because this respawning enemy garbage is annoying
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>about to fight Bloodletting Beast for the first time.

What should I expect?
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>>124019381
best thing is that you can roll out of that extra part of the charge too.
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>>124021892
Did you ever play Dark Souls 1?

Did you ever get as far as the Catacombs without a divine weapon?

If so, this should all be familiar to you.
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I quite like how the Harrowed chest looks with Papa G's gloves.

Show me your fashion choices pls.
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>>124021906
a falcon punch to the face
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>>124021906
if it has a head, an easy but tedious fight

if headless the fun ends here kill your self
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>>124021641
With my Ludwig cosplay we can totally work together and guide the lesser hunters through the Nightmare.

Th-that's if you'd like to.
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>>124021906
antidote
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>>124021906
One inch punches that cover the entire arena
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>>124021906
One inch analysis fisting
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>>124021992
Why is there a ball on your back?
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>>124021229
>>124021075
>>124021275
BLACK LIVES MATTER!
STOP WHITEWASHING OUR HISTORY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk9dXVyeNRs
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I want Japan Souls don't care how generic it is. The mother fuckers live there for Christ sake. I'm tired of all these distant lands in the east never being met. I'm sure they can easily find unique lore.
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>>124021906
To curse Miyazaki for his incompetence in 3rd person camera design.
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>>124021653
I don't see it
Do I need to do something for him to appear?
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>>124021992
second character keeps changing tho
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So where did you guys end up leaving your level? I wanted to start planning a build, but I'm not sure where to cap myself.
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>>124022075

WE WUZ OLD ONES N SHIT
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>>124022113
No
Please no
I just
No
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>>124022197

/bbg/ cap at 98, general cap seems to be anywhere from 80-120
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Would someone be willing to spoonfeed info about flat, %, and scaling gems and their situational usefulness to a literal retard?
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Is the Reiterpallasch good as a SKL/BLT backup weapon?
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>>124021629
The eldritch part is the phantasms which i mentioned before hand? i mean seriously why else do you think he has a second head literally full of eyes
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>>124022113

But anon Capcom is already working on it.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/new-onimusha-trademark-registered-by-capcom/1100-6432687/

Also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-zqzbmcYwI
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>>124022158

Try with confederate rune
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Amygdala was surprisingly easy after struggling with the zone itself for almost an hour.

also those big imps fucking hurt. Two hit comboed me to death.
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>>124021992
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>>124022197
120 should be a hard stop. I don't know about anyone else, but it felt bad to even get up to there and I left my other chars lower.
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>>124018243
That literally looks like Alucard in grill form.

Did you saved a pic of your slider?
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>>124022348
How do you think his sword lead to him having that head?
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>>124022075
>>124022214

>Compton souls
>everything is fist weapons and guns
>if you get invaded and struck once, the game automatically goes "SHIIIIIIET" and summons 5 phantoms immediately to help you gank a nigga
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>>124022467
Well id argue that not everything in this game needs to explicitly stated. We fight tons of beast enemies in this game, some them are especially "holy" like Amelia and Laurence, yet they dont have "eyes". Ludwig's sword is associated with "tiny beings of light" and he has a second head that is literally lined with eyes.
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>>124020082
>I see that speech as him realizing the sword is what led him astray

You can see it that way if you want but to me that's a pretty gross misreading of everything that happens in that fight. Ludwig starts off fighting you as a screeching malformed beast, and that's malformed even in comparison to other beasts. He's on all fours, thrashing wildly and howling. But then, as soon as he spots his sword (with his more human-looking and clear eye, mind you, unlike the other one that's covered over in beast milkiness), he suddenly starts speaking, he stands upright, and he starts fighting with a weapon like a human would. His strikes are sure, precise and indicate martial skill. And that monologue that he delivers is that he's surprised to see HMLS at his side still, then refers to it as his "true mentor" and "guiding moonlight."

Most strikingly, the last image you see of that mid-fight cutscene is Ludwig holding his sword in front of him, his more human eye holding a steady, level gaze at the camera, while the moonlight blade completely blocks his more beastlike eye out of the frame. A complete 180 from the slavering monster that you saw at the beginning of the fight.

This combination of visual storytelling and monologue clearly illustrates that Ludwig still loves that sword and what it represents to him. He sees the world around him as very dark, an endless nightmare, and himself as a monster, twisted and defiled by that world. And he worries that all he did was for naught, that the heavy sacrifices he made achieved nothing and his legacy was forgotten. But he still reveres that moonlight, that thread of light, as guidance, and the mere sight of it in a time of need is enough to return his senses to him, to remind him of who he is, or was. Quite literally, for him it's the one point of light in an endless night, one comfort to hang on to through his suffering.
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>>124022405
I have that equipped but nothing
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>>124022027
It's where I hold my cannon ammo.

>>124022162
I like numbers 2 and 5 a lot.

>>124022416
Roland Deschain/10
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>>124022434
It's not mine originally, to be quite honest.

But, here you go.

http://imgur.com/a/X4Xwp

Please enjoy.
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>>124022075
>America souls
>blood vials replaced with hamburgers
>half the enemies in the game are extremely obese
>spelunking old detroit
>regular gank squads of minorites with makeshift shanks and guns
>final boss is donald trump
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>/bbg/ BTFO!
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>>124022628
I agree with this. He even acknowledges his beast form later when you talk to him when he says that he "suffered such denigration"
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>all my chalice dungeons were left open
>go kill bone ash hunter
>first arcane drop in literally days
It's a fucking offline Christmas miracle
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>>124022798

>e-celeb shit

fuck right off
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>>124022798
Damn he got us good
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>>124021992
Simple, but effective.

I guess I like the Hugh Jackman Van Helsing look.
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So who would win!? Father Gascan vs. about 30 Yharnamites!

Well, unfortunately the Yharnamites, but it was fun to watch none the less.
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>>124022785
>trump
>the villain
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>>124022297
>>124022418
Thanks, stopping at 98 sounds like a pretty good spot for me.

Do you think splitting Skill and Bloodtinge 25/25 is viable enough for PvP? Or do you think making two separate builds for each would be worth the time investment?
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>>124022753
Thanks.

It's weird that some frogposter said some characters look like melted shit ingame when going full autism in character screen but this is the opposite.
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>>124022075
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
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>>124022798
I'm surprised he finds time to post to his twitter, what with taking breaks and using cocaine filling up his schedule
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>>124022881

Stat?
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>>124022434
Who is Alucard, I keep invading people with that name

>>124022320
Flat: adds flat damage to the weapon. No matter what level you are at, no matter how to weapon scales, it will add the same amount of damage to it. Mostly useless but arc ones can be good for certain weapons

%: These are your nigga, they buff your weapon to a % of the damage it already deals. Even at low levels these are good but as you can imagine as you get to higher levels they become ridiculous.

Scaling: Improve the scaling of the weapon. For example, if the gem boosts STR scaling, a weapon might go from a B to an A in Strength scaling

Really you want all 27.2% phys attack up gems with a curse that doesn't matter like 'stamina costs increased by 3%' or something. You can finetune with other gems later but you should have a few 27.2s as a foundation
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>You don't need any insight for bath messengers now
That's a weird, needless change down from one.
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>>124022996
you'd probably want to get one of them to 50. The lower softcap of 25 isnt very effective at higher levels when people start getting better defenses
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>>124023051
black people love injecting themselves into everything
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>>124022320
Flat gems add as the name implies, flat damage to a weapon. They're really useful for multi-hit weapons like the Wheel, but they don't get included in damage multiplier calculations

Phys gems increase the damage of your weapon by the x%, based off your base damage and scaling. Which with the new patch abyssal scaling gems are really good now

Scaling gems are a touchy subject so I'll just leave this link for you and hope it helps

https://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3tvcc5/psa_heavysharp_abyssal_gems_are_better_than_272/
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>>124022990
>trump was actually the only one trying to make america great again and you wrongfully killed him, mislead by the three-headed serpent hillary, plunging the land into eternal darkness
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>>124023114
>who is Alucard

WHAT IS A MAN
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>>124022798

Who? No really who is this?
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>>124022996
>Do you think splitting Skill and Bloodtinge 25/25 is viable enough for PvP?
No, that's more of a BL60 build, you'll do absolutely no fucking damage up at 98 with those stats.

Trust me I tried.
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>>124022075
>>124022591
Fuck off pol, the fuck egypt has with black people
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>>124022798
how do you know he was talking about us?
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>there are people who want souls games to be a completely offline experience
>these are the same people who want to enjoy the benefits of jolly co-operation but not have to deal with invaders, despite the huge advantage they start with
>these are the same people who will either disconnect as soon as they are invaded or disconnect before they die to the invader

I will never understand these people.
Is it a condition? Are they just extremely anxious/nervous when dealing with the concept of someone coming into their world to kill them?
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>>124023114
You're pretending right? Strangely enough I do believe you.

Anyways see pic.
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>>124022798
I'm not a PvPfag but hell, something isn't right not seeing messages, not getting invaded, and not seeing ghostly hunters getting rekt. Feels more dead and empty.
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>>124022628
I don't see any reason why it doesn't keep him sane/human and also lead him to his doom. I don't see where the contradiction is there, it's more interesting to me that that could be the case. Just saying 'he has a magic sword that helps him' doesn't strike me as interesting. Also, why would it not have prevented his transformation into a beast in the first place?
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>>124023213
WE WUZ KEENGS UN QUEENS UN SHIIIIIET
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>>124023156
Just like all the non redpilled liberal plebs in real life.
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Is anyone else disappointed there hasn't been a proper player boss since demon's souls old monk?
There are virtually no other games that do this, and it was the most fun i've had in a video game in a long time, knowing I was the area boss, and they had to defeat me to advance their game along.
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I need 20k souls and I haven't downed a boss yet, without bosses where's the best place to farm?

Is the bridge run really my best bet?
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>>124023121
It's probably because it was a weird, arbitrary design decision that did nothing but result in some players totally missing the insight shop.
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>>124022628
That doesn't explain why he still attacks you. Sure you beat him up, but he isn't dead and if he came to his senses and saw you were a hunter he'd either ask that you finish him or befriend you, not attack you.

The only reason he keeps on attacking is because "gameplay"
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>>124023168
A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS
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>>124023354
get your history right, america didn't buy slaves from high africa.
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>>124022798
>e-celeb shit

seriously, try your hardest to keep this thread clear of this shit
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>>124023218
Most likely. They're used to games not having strict gameplay rules like what you'd see in older games. If something bothers them they dont even try to work around it
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>I didn't get the 1.08 update

is this sony getting back at me for getting the DLC for free?
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>>124022162
2 and 4 are pretty nifty.

What's your /fa/ on 2? I haven't been playing this game long.
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>servers offline

Well shit. There an ETA on this?
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>>124023395
The problem with that fight was if you or the other player had a shit connection. I have a "good" connection but I remember getting fucking lagstabbed when I was facing him.
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>>124023435
BUT ENOUGH TALK
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>>124023320
Oh, so it's generic weeb garbage? Should've known. Sincere thanks for explaining tho
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>>124023343
The sword helped keep it bottled up. The game states that the most pious people often have the worse transformations when they inevitably succumb because they have it all built up. Ludwig's sword helped keep him sane on top of his holy nature so it ended up making it worse
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>>124022798
If only BB would come to pc so Santa, Zullie, Cliffracer, and Allbones could bully him some more.
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>>124022405
Nevermind, I did it myself
thanks for trying to help
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>>124023648
Never ever, etc
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>>124023512
IIRC it's wine pants, maria's chest (teehee), cainhurst gloves and old hunter top hat
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>>124023395
>>124023586

At the very least it could be an optional boss in order to avoid repeated connection frustrations
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>>124023648
>epic pc hackers breaking the game to kill people
No, we don't need anything like that. That's stupid childish shit that completely ruins the community.
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>>124023114
Dracula backwards.
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>>124021992
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>>124023395
It was pretty bullshit that you could eat grass though

Nice concept nevertheless
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>>124023609
>Dracula
>generic weeb garbage

WHAAAAAT
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>>124023543
>few days
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>>124023648
Who the fuck you talking about must be some e-celeb yes?

Why are ppl watching streamers in the first place what the fuck's wrong with you people.
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>>124023801
Did they add a new effect to Chikage?
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>do real well against logarius finally
>he slams his sword into one of the towers and I can't target it

cool
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>>124023638
But it didn't keep him sane, he's a beast when we meet him

>>124023834
I googled it, it's a reference to generic weeb garbage with a character called Alucard. 'Dracula' would be a reference to Dracula
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>>124023775
>twitchfags
>community

Kobra, shut the fuck up. You literally were a skiddie in dark souls and dark souls 2. And you're just as much of an attentionwhore (or even more) than any of those guys.
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>>124023609
Generic weeb garbage
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>>124022785
>implying it couldn't be totally memeical
>Texas area
>fight your way through dusty towns with men clinging to guns
>boss fight on horseback riding through a boiling hot oil field
>final boss is a long dead gunslinger guarding some treasure the messcans hid
>New Orleans area
>ganking in the French Quarter
>swim your way through hordes of dark bayou beasts clawing for your clothes, your weapons, anything you're carrying on you
>final boss is a deformed alligator you fight in his swamp
>California area
>go actual spelunking in dark caves lined with gold
>dead pioneers use pickaxes and ropes to attack you
>final boss is something no one really wants to come outright and say, but it's really, really gay

CAN YOU FEEL THE FREEDOM
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>>124023798
you're in the know, right?
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>>124022798
wish i had his life.
play video games and snort cocaine
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>>124023775
>that completely ruins the community.
Kinda like you.
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>>124023930
Yes, it makes it way more fun, but it still sucks
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>>124024031
I still have no idea what that means, sounds cringey though.
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>>124023648
>Santa
Good times in a shit game
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>>124023609
>>124023949
>plays souls games
>doesn't know castlevania
C A N C E R
A
N
C
E
R
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>>124023949
ALUCARD IS LITERALLY DRACULA BACKWARDS
ALUCARD IS LITERALLY THE NAME OF DRACULA IN THE 1943 FILM
ALUCARD IS LITERALLY DRACULA'S ALIUS
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>>124023949
>But it didn't keep him sane, he's a beast when we meet him
Yes thats the point. It used to help him keep his sanity during his hunting days but it didnt last forever. I believe this is even stated somewhere but I forget.
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Me too bro.
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>streamers getting fucked over by their chat when doing chalice dungeons
lmao
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>>124024107
what, the message? i just see it posted around hidden items and illusory walls and such. not too difficult to grasp the meaning of, really.
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>>124023156
> trump was rekindling the age of fire
> you foolishly bring about the age of dark (skins)
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>>124024123
I miss Santa and cliff.
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I want to make an ayy lmao build

I just made a new character with cruel fate, get arcande to 50 is pretty much it right?
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Lost version of the bowblade is the best for a bloodtinge build right? To get the circular gem slot.
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>>124024149
Tell that to weebs, somehow I think they are referencing any of this over the 1943 film, don't you?
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>>124024061
the dream. playing bloodborne for 50 hours straight, only interrupted by doing lines
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>>124023949
Nigga Alucard is the son of Dracula, it's in the first fucking google search page you dumb vileblood.
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>finish DLC with Pizzacutter
>wanted to make a SKILL character
>network down
>nobody to babysit me through The Gasman, Amelia and Rom

AHHHHH
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>>124023949
You should kill yourself, no one as retarded as you should be alive desu senpai
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New player here.

I'm about to enter Forbidden Woods.

What am I in for.
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>>124024378
oil urn and flamesprayer for amelia
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>>124024340
Not really worth it as all you get is an extra 30AR on your BT damage, but lose out on like 100 for your base attack.

If you literally only plan on using the bow portion it's fine.
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>>124024326
why stop at 50? why don't you want to be majestic?
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>>124024498
Trees
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Lower Loran layer 3

When you go through the side path before the starting lamp just after coming out of layer 2, there's one of those bridges with the blades swinging that you have to get across. I've died for the past couple minutes and its embarrassing but is there a trick here? There's four blades and the third one is faster than the others and i just eat it by the time i get close to the third one
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>>124024326
You can go even higher if you want since you wont need str or skill and spells softcap out at 70 arc.
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>>124024351
this google page:
>>124024346 ?

>>124024457
Aw, someone's upset his chinese cartoons got insulted
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>>124024498
Don't you want to find out for yourself?
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>>124023949

>This entire post
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>>124024326
Cruel fate
Arcane 50-99
Saw spear, cane
Cry because you're not doing any fucking damage
Lose your life to chalice dungeons
Equip shiny arcane gems
Become kosm, destroyer of kos
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>>124023812
Yeah not sure being able to fully heal as the boss is a good idea, otherwise a great concept
>>124023586
It'll never be perfect but with internet infrastructure only getting better and better hopefully at this point in time that wouldn't happen too much.
>>124023772
This too is also a good idea. Optional, but worth doing.
>>124023982
Lay off the drugs anon, I've only played souls games on console.
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>>124024498
boat loads of end game spoilers if you don't leave immediately
you don't need your hand held, explore and finish the game on your own.
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Post Hunters. Also good Places to take Screenshots of them?
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>>124024149
>mfw I just now realized that alucard was dracula backwards
I am not a clever man
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>>124024574
lol I'd rather be a weeb than a nigger :)
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>>124024198
But we don't fight a man that becomes a beast, we fight a beast that becomes a man. He is already broken then he goes to being less broken

>>124024608
>>124024457
>>124024351
>>124024149
>>124024143
You guys REALLY think Alucard's are referencing Dracula's name in the 1943 film as opposed to weebshit? You have that much faith in the human race?
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Anyone know some cheap ways I can make Laurence easy? He's the last thing I have to do in the game and I honestly just want to get it over with I'm sick of this shit
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>manvsgame acting all dramatic while deleting all his characters.
>probably has a backup save kek.
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>>124024498
forbidden woods is when the difficulty starts ramping up. prepare to get lost and die.
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>>124021982
have played all souls games, but this feels more irritating than the respawning skeles.
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>>124024821
Who let the 14 year old on here?
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>>124022000
>>124022021
>>124022026
o-oh okay..

Looks like I have a long night ahead of me.
Getting immediate flashbacks to Undead Giant and its stupid chains. Why do all these Chalice bosses need one-hit moves?
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>>124024847
fuck off
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>>124024123
dark souls II is so fucking ugly, it's genuinely hard to believe it only came a year before bloodborne.
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>>124024821
The two are not mutually exclusive in any regard, nigs are all over weebshit
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>>124024901
r u triggered? :P
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>>124023320

Why is Alucard a cute girl?
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This good for an ayylium build?

http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/8731
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>>124024829
Pizza cutting + beast pills.
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>>124024825
>muh human race is stupid, i'm of a higher intelligence xDDD

You think anyone who names there character Dracula is a weeb too?
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>>124024916
level up
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>>124024829

NG+? Can't help you, pop pills and see how far it takes you.

NG should be relatively easy with a +10 Pizzacutter
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>>124024123
HE-LLO
HE-LLO
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Whos the fucking carpenter responsible for building the stairs in the research hall

Fucking asshole thinks its funny to not finish the last 3 steps
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>>124024825
It's not only the 1943 film, it's in some books, it's in castlevania, it's in some tv series, and it's even in fucking batman vs dracula.
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How much endurance should I have for a pure bloodtinge Simon's Bowblade build?
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>>124025005
Been a while I watched the OVA's, all I know is they fought & suddenly she transformed to a semen sorceress.
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>>124020938
S-sliders? I need them for reasons.
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>>124024972
> r u trigged :p xDDDD
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>>124024558
Nevermind, figured it ou

Praise quickening
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>>124025080
Nobody said that, but given you think greentexting any unrelated sentence with an emote constitutes an argument, I think I'm better than just you personally, yes

And no, why would I think the name 'Dracula' suggests weebshit? What's your thinking there?
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>>124024916
Use the fist of Gratia. You can easily stagger him.
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>>124024916
Dodge into punch, not away

Only reason it's one shotting you is because when you roll you get open status and take more damage
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>>124025105
I'm NG+3, lvl 170 tho
>>124025035
do i just 2h R1 for maximum DPS? Or fish for charge R2s
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>>124024950
B-Team. Miyazaki not at the helm.
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>>124025005
he wanted
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>>124021075

They should just go full weeb and let people be cyber ninjas or some shit.

It's what ends up being the most popular in all most of the games anywya.
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Is the update not ready yet? It's been preparing the fucking download for like 10 minutes.
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>>124024143
>You have to play Castlevania to play Souls!

eh?
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>>124025164
I like 20. Just enough stamina to fire off 5 blood bullets and recharges while you get more blood bullets + heal.
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>>124025353
fuck no
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>mfw I name my character Genya Arikado
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>>124025279
Only R1 builds up your beasthood meter fast when you use pellets, when the meter reaches 70% you can L2 him, you don't want to wait too long cause the meter will be gone by then.
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>>124024795
Lugh wants to smash but the Maintenance wont let him.
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If you were Maria, would you turn down a young(er) Gehrman and refuse his mania?
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WHAT THEY ADDED A NEW MESSANGER HAT
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>>124025353
Sounds very shit
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How do I beat this doggy with out cheesing?
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>>124025439
Souls is basically what 3D castlevania should've been
so yes
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>>124025582
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah?
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I beat Maria and I don't her set in insight bath messenger, wat do?
I kill Simon in research hall and he dropped bowblade, wat do?
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>>124025591
Dodge to his right, hit twice, dodge his backhand, repeat.

Hardest part is getting used to the bullshit delay on his punches.
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>>124025591

Time your iframes and always dodge right. Is how I beat him every time. After dying a thousand times it got really easy.
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>>124025582
I fucking knew it, I swear I saw them with old hunter looking hats.
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>>124025647
>Souls is basically what 3D castlevania should've been
does not into
>You have to play Castlevania to play Souls!

If anything it suggests you should skip Castlevania tbpf&qh
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>>124025591
dodge around him, not backwards
also poison but that's kind of cheesing it
>>
But what are the darkbeasts?
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>>124025591
BoM works surprisingly well on him with it's forward charge R1's. Just dodge to his left when he swipes at you & repeat.
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>>124025671
madman's knowledge.
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"Alright, now I'll just get summoned for Gascan once or twice to get the rest of the souls I need!"

>summoned
>summoned
>triggered
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Is BL43 active?
Thinking between BL66 with 40VIT/STR or BL43 with 28STR/30VIT invader.
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>>124025582

Ha I knew there was something odd when I saw them in game. Never seen them before the DLC. How do I get?
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>>124025582
That's not a new hat, that's a preorder hat
The two preorder hats eventually showed up on the ground by the stump for people who didn't get the preorders a few patches ago
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>>124025582
how to acquire
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>Doing story Isz for a quick triangle nourishing fix
>TemperingTemperingTempering OddArcanes

Where the fuck do I get these? Will I really have to do a Root and hope I get Rom? I don't even want it cursed, it's for pve.
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>>124025446
Is sticking to 8 End not advisable?
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am i doing anything wrong?

i use the saw cleaver and ludwig blade
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>>124025269
Not there yet.
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>Beast Mode now exists
>DLC's been out a week
Where are all the Beast Builds? I was really looking forward to that.
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>>124025937
Triangle nourishings drop from Amy. You shouldn't even be bothering with non cursed gems you pleb.
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>>124025912
>The two preorder hats eventually showed up on the ground by the stump for people who didn't get the preorders a few patches ago

wh-what

why don't i have them :<
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>>124026027
ayylium mode surprised everyone and is much more fun
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>>124024031
>Fine
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It's a shame the church cannon uses so many QS bullets. It's so satisfying to fire.
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>>124026067
Idunno, atleast that's what I think
I'd say maybe I got that glitch where you unlock the beast claws in the fountain or get the blood drunk hunter eye, but I've never cooped gehrman/MP and it shows up for my new characters too

If it's not that, beats me
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>there are still people that think great one=kin, or kin=great one
>there are still people pulling shit out of there asses about oedon (oedon is all blood, oedon is the old blood, etc)
>there are still people that think annalise is related to yharnam

And a recent favorite

>there are people that think the queen maria is related to is annalise
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>>124026193
Kin mode absolutely rapes beast mode
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>>124026027
Everyone is rocking a beastmode m8

But broccoli mode is where it's at funwise
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>>124025982
You could, but the bow takes a lot of stamina. Leave it at 8 until you get the bow and see if you find 8 acceptable.
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>>124026027
Beast mode is fun, but it's nowhere near as fun or good as cosmic broccoli.
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>>124026027
We got a better offer.

Tfw deleted beastclaws build a while ago and have no desire to make it and rerun chalice dungeons
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>>124026252
how do i broccoli mode
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>>124026230
>that glitch where you unlock the beast claws in the fountain
That was never a glitch, and it was known since about a month after the game came out.
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>>124026239
explain why it's not annalise
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First timer to Bloodborne here, and Dark Souls vet. What do some of the stats mean? VIT, END, STR, and SKL are obvious, but what exactly does Arcane and Bloodtinge do?

I assume Arcane is like Intelligence from Souls, and allows you to use kos/kosm items or whatever. Bloodtinge, if I had to guess, lets your firearms hit harder and let your viscerals deal more damage?
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>>124026193

>was waiting for someone to draw something like this except with Jojo/Dio poses
>Kin not in Madman set for bonus tentacles and those cute bare legs

Now I'm really sad.
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>>124026320
plip plop...
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>>124026193
Why fight? I want to see kin/beast coop way more.
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>>124026392
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Stats
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>>124026303
more like cosmic 70's
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>>124026193
That's a cool picture.
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>oh sweet new messenger item
>Part of the DLC that comes with purchase of the game in some retailers

yep, FROM can go find a big pile of shit and then stuff each other full with it. I've fucking paid $80 bucks total for the game and DLC and there's still content I can't get because I didn't buy it at certain stores.
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>>124026392
Pretty much, viscerals are however tied to a base damage that increases per level, which then gets raised by multiplier that is raised by leveling Skill. ( i think)
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>>124026392
i swear people on 4chan dont even bother looking stuff up before they ask stupid questions
also
>Dark Souls vet
>>
>>124026239
And apparently, there are now people who think Maria is a queen.

Though I seem to recall the only character in the game described as being undead is Queen Annalise, the "undying queen of blood". Trying to remember if Alfred says something about it or not. Still, it's worth noting that Maria has the silver ponytail all the Cainhurst Knights seem to fetishize with their wigs.
>>
>>124026239

>there are people who believe bb actually has a story
>>
>>124026230
Maybe you got a pre-order version without preordering, happens to me sometimes

>>124026392
skill effects viscerals, other than that ur on the monie
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HOW DO I BEAT LOGARIUS WHAT THE FUCK
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>>124026239
>edgy skeleton loli
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>>124026351
How is that not a glitch
The hunters dream updates using somebody else's unlock flags when you get summoned, and it's the same glitch that allowed people to get into the dlc without paying
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>>124026303
The WoG multihits? tfw will be getting the game and dlc after everything has been nerfed. feels bad
>>
When the fuck is the platinum theme for NA? They said they'd do it, but not when they'd do it.
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>>124026441
I agree.
>get summoned into a CD
>normal host
>Kin mode co-operator
>playing a Beast build
>the most fun ensues

Also, Beast modes are pretty simple. 50 Vit, 20 End, 50 Str, 25 Ski and then whatever. I put points in Blt so I can summon the snek and use Evelyn.
>>
FInally thinking of doing a BLT build

Quick, name weapons that're great with BLT.

Is 27.2 grinding even worth it again? Is it easier with BLT?
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>two swings of gratia fist can stagger an axe Cthulhu or giant fishman
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>>124026665

>nerfing ayy lmao

They wouldn't fucking dare r-right?
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>>124026612
interrupt his charge up by backstabbing, then parry his second form/punish his jumping attacks
the sword he sticks into the ground is destructable, you can bop it or shoot it
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>>124026612
Backstab when he starts activating his second form then parry the rest of his attacks.
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>>124026576
If I had the preorder version I'd have had the hats from the beginning, I never even put in any codes for the game
They only started showing up in later versions of the game
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>>124026320
splish splash...
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>>124026392
>dark souls vet kek.
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>>124026560
>Maria has the silver ponytail
That's just her hair, though she does have a bow in it. Qt
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>>124026193
Thanks for the new wallpaper
But wolf and ayy gank squad is much more fun
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>>124026556
>>124026824
*Souls vet
>>
>>124026757
>>124026779
i will try this
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>>124026708

Simon's Bowblade

Chikage

Bloodletter

Evelyn/Repeater

??Church Cannon??
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>>124026665
BB ain't nerfing shit because pvpfags said so.
There been only one legit nerf and only because that item was overpowered against bosses, plus a glitch fix.

Besides, the only ones falling for this wog are autistic r1 mashing pveers.
>>
>>124026556
Why look up on google something that some faggot wrote up when you can get someone to explain it to you in an easy fashion that is just as quick as googling?

Word of mouth is always better than reading wikis/articles.
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>>124026881

Nobody uses the church cannon and I dont know why.
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>>124026708
Bloodletter a best, and yes grinding anything is mindless as fuck now with BLT because of the Bowblade.
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>>124026392
All correct, except visceral damage scales with Skill, not Bloodtinge.
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>>124026665
Why would it get nerfed retard? just stand back like a smart person.
>>
What's the best looking /fa/shion for Kin mode?
>>
>tfw EU
I wanted to play some BB after work, goddammit. So is 1.08 actually a thing? Patch notes? Any info at all?
>>
>>124026748
They literally have only nerfed one thing in the entire game, and it was a glitch.
Everything else got buffs where needed. Japs don't listen to screaming redditors.
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>>124026960
I'm going to do a 28/50STR/BLT and use it soon. It just requires a specific build.
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>>124027034
i know that feel bro. need my bb fix. dlc is addicting.
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>>124026660
Except it doesn't update using someone else's unlock flags. You're completely misunderstanding how it works.

If the person you summon has the Beast Claw equipped, the Beast Claw will be made available in your messenger bath. If they do not have the Beast Claw equipped, nothing will appear in your bath. Unlock flags have nothing to do with it.

No matter which version of the Beast Claw is being used, only the regular version appears in the bath. This indicates that it is a programmed effect, and not a bug that tricks the game into thinking the player found that item when they didn't.

This effect only occurs with the Beast Claw item. No other items found in a Chalice Dungeon will appear in the host's bath. If it were a bug related to unlock flags, it would similarly apply to other unlockable items, however the effect is exclusive to the Beast Claw and even then only updates with the regular version.

In short, it's not a glitch and doesn't use 'unlock flags'.
>>
>>124026556
>Don't use this community for (this topic), this community is only for (this other topic)!!
mm, alright dear.
>>
>>124026502
See you in Dark Souls 3.
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>>124026392

Arcane increases your item discovery and allows you to meet the requirements for "hunter tools"-- some of which you may have already discovered. Just like the physical stats, STR and SKL, ARC has a softcap of 25 and diminishing returns kick in at 50. However, this only counts for weapons. Hunter tools, such as the Executioner's Gloves and the Blacksky Eye, scale until 70. You can even max out ARC at 99 and still receive a pretty decent damage boost to your tools. That does require a lot of investment, though, so I definitely recommend planning ahead before you start pumping ARC super high. Also, you can only utilize the ARC-scaling on weapons if you equip them with an elemental bloodgem. Weapons that have innate elemental damage cannot have their element changed, and therefore cannot utilize whatever ARC-scaling they have.

As for Bloodtinge, you're correct. It increases the damage dealt by your firearms (Also, the Madaras Whistle). It has nothing to do with viscerals, though. Visceral attacks are affected by SKL and, to a lesser extent, STR. Also, there are two weapons in the game that scale with Bloodtinge while in trick mode: Chikage and Bloodletter. Weapons with guns in their trick mode, i.e. the Reiterpallasch and the Rifle Spear, don't actually gain very much gun damage out of Bloodtinge, so you need only meet the base BLT requirements for them if you plan on using them.
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>>124026665

>nerfing the big fuck you to gank/co-op squads

I hope not, it's too much fun.
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>>124027023
>kin
>fashion

AYYYY
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>>124027034
I can confirm 1.08 downloaded and installed but I do not see anything new in my game. likely just a bug fix.
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>>124027195

>He doesn't look fabulous when striking his L2 pose

Shaking my head family
>>
>>124027023
>kin without madman or choir garb
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>>124026887
Pizzacutter and bowblade are OP against bosses. So are they getting cut? If they do I will be sorely disappoint. I liked how dark souls had many ways of being a 1 shotting beast against bosses.
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>>124027162
Shield Souls 3? no thanks.
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>>124027034
>So is 1.08 actually a thing?
Yes.
>Patch notes?
No, sorry, I even checked the BB Japanese thing a bit ago and nothing.
All I know about is that the Bath takes 0 insight. My guess is that is changed alongside the DLC bug fix and maybe some % tweaks on runes.
>>
>>124027225
isn't henryk black?
>>
>>124027327

Constable garb looks pretty smooth though tbqh
>>
>>124019457
Rom

fucking stupid piece of shit
>>
>>124026376
All we've seen Annalise do is sit on a throne and drink bloody cock snot

Meanwhile Maria is flashing around with super blood powers. Which is reminiscent of a queen that doesn't sit around drinking bloody cock snot.

It's so very easy to fall into linking maria to annalise. Her in-game mentions reference cainhurst and the favorite blades of theirs.
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>>124027137
The beast claws normally show up in the messenger bath if you find them yourself in the dungeons
You bypass it by having somebody else have the beast claws in your dream and the game thinks you unlocked them yourself because they're equipped in your dream
If you summon someone with claws anywhere else it doesn't work
It's a glitch, bugs are not features
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>>124027134
Did we get 1-07 after the Americans? I can't remember, I thought we got them at the same time/close together.
>tfw offline made me finish off Lower Pthumeru
>made me do Nightmare Frontier
>made me get the FUCKING Rakuyo, fuck me, never again
I'm bored now.

>>124027237
How big was it?
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>>124027034
Just showed up for me.
>>
I just caught Doll saying a prayer at the DLC Grave.

Unfortunately, I did not catch it all on tape.
I think she was praying for the safety of Maria which would make sense, but is also weird.
She was also praying to someone named "Flora"
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>>124024795

Sup, brother?
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>>124019457
>Hated Rom on my first character
>Come back for DLC
>Pizzacutter +6, Younger Madara and Henryk gangbang Rom
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>>124026887
How was cannon more overpowered than repeater?
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>>124027494
She was praying for you. The O Flora of the moon of the dream is a bit ambiguous
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>>124027327
saw bandages are way to clean.
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>>124027337
>Pizzacutter and bowblade are OP against bosses
Nowhere near as OP as four BMA cannon shots which could be done on any STR or quality builds and allowed to cheese even chalice bosses for like half of their health bar without breaking a sweat.
Your autistic pvp brains seriously need to calm down.
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>>124027494
She did that before the dlc, pretty sure it's about you.
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>>124027180
>Also, there are two weapons in the game that scale with Bloodtinge while in trick mode: Chikage and Bloodletter

You forgot the bowblade.
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>>124027531
Rom was such fucking horseshit before they nerfed him, he was probably the least fair boss in the series.
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>>124027669

Dammit, I always forget something.
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>>124027535
Repeater requires a highly specific stat investment to be actually good.
Cannon with 10 bullets per shot did not.
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>>124027141
>>124026942
but his question has no potential for discussion, and googling "bloodborne stats" is much faster
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>>124027686
how badly was he nerfed? he's really easy now.
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>>124027686

What did they nerf about him?

I honestly don't remember. Every time I've fought him I've always just done the strat of ignoring all the baby spiders and hit n run.
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>>124027686

Yea, how did they nerf him anyway?

The only thing I noticed was how slow he was teleporting. I seem to recall he would do the first teleport after losing maybe 1/3 or 1/4 health during launch week, but maybe I was just doing too much damage with Pizzacutter when DLC launched, but he didnt start port until he was at 50%
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>>124027824
>>124027808
If I recall the tracking on his meteor attacks was wildly reduced.
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>>124027467
Thanks man, checked and it was there. Patch is there for EU, chaps.

>>124027531
I still hate Rom. Just beat Chalice Rom, what bullshit. His spiders were one-shotting me with that gay ass jump with swiping. Fucking homo fucking gay Rom cunt fucker.
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>>124027592
Oh shit, we know it now I guess: the lumenflowers. Flora of the moon = Plant life of the moon. Maria is hugely into them too obviously

But then again, 'Flora' is capitalized. Maybe a mistake on the translator's part?
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>>124027769
Cannon has huge bloodtinge scaling because of its base AR.
Cannon requires 30 str, 13 skill anyway, which is pretty specific.
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>>124027786
ok
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>>124027660
>>124027592
Ah alright. This is the first time I'd seen it. Given that my character is of the female variety, I'd still thought it was about Maria. Also since it's the same grave...
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>>124027808
Her meteors have almost no tracking now.
On release version they tracked like motherfuckers, it was almost impossible to run away from them.
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>>124027808
>>124027824
Her meteors were metaphysical bullshit, spawned right on top of you and the tracking was way harsher.
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Chosen Undead vs Bearer of the Curse vs The Hunter
Who wins? My money would be on Hunter 2bh.
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>>124027448
Don't recall, nothing crazy, finished in a few minutes for me.
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>>124027972
But Chosen Undead can't die, anon.
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Servers still down?
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>>124027971
>Launch Rom
That was some shit. The moment those meteors were coming in you just had to charge your ass straight towards her like you're storming the beaches of motherfucking Normandy.
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>>124027972
I don't know man, Bearer of the curse fucks some shit up, Ancient Dragon was pretty buff.
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>>124027867
>>124027808
>>124027824
They fixed his bullshit meteor attack. On release it was LITERALLY impossible to reliably dodge them, they predicted your movements with psychic accuracy and did way more damage. Now they just shoot at you like a normal slow projectile and just sprinting avoids them.
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>>124027327
The bandages on the saw blade always bothered me, is the backside of the so blunt that it doesn't cut trough the bandage? and those spikes are shite, looks nothing like a saw
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>>124027909
I always thought she was referencing the "flora and fauna", if you know that saying. You're right though, it is strange that it's capitalized. Doll also says some new stuff after you beat Maria, like a weight has been lifted off her heart or something.
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>>124027972
>forgetting the Slayer of Demons
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>>124027423
All things normally show up in the messenger bath if you find them yourself in the dungeons. That's how uncanny and lost versions of weapons work.

The fact that this "glitch" doesn't apply to any other weapons that must be found before being unlocked for purchase, and ONLY applies to the Beast Claw, not to mention the fact that this supposed "glitch" has been known for a very long time now, all points to it simply being an intended effect. If it was a glitch, they'd have patched it a long time ago.

Note that this isn't the first time Fromsoft has done such shenanigans. In DaS1, Quelana will appear if any player with a +10 pyromancy flame enters the host's world, not just if the host has it. Unless you think it's unbelievable that they'd give a second way to obtain an otherwise well-hidden weapon?
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>>124027934
>Cannon has huge bloodtinge scaling because of its base AR.
200 on 50 BLT, insignificant compared to 600 base and could be ignored. I remember cheesing defiled Amy into oblivion with BMA cannon.
>Cannon requires 30 str, 13 skill anyway, which is pretty specific.
It's "pretty specific" for literally any quality and STR build and those are much more common than BLT ones for pve.
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>>124027972
Hunter absolutely no contest, unless you count lore. If you do, chosen undead comes back again and again until the hunter is dead.
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>>124027972
Huneter should be kept out of soulsborne player character fights. Rally, gun parry, and that sweet speed and stamina are game changers.
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>>124027971
>>124028097
i never had problems with Rom even on day one, if you jumped at the right time you dodged the meteors

between like 5 characters in the first month i died maybe twice to rom, including 3 NG+s
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>>124028101
The ones who beat him before the nerf are the only powerful.
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>>124027972

They're all immortal until they finish their storyline but if you go via power rankings its

Slayer of Demons 1st

Good Hunter 2nd

Chosen Undead 3rd

Bearer of the Curse 4th
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>>124027972
It's hard to say considering we don't really know how the hunter would fare against a heavily armored shield wielding opponent.

He'd probably win just because the knights physically cannot keep up with him.
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>>124028232
Curious why you put the Slayer of Demons first?
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>>124027943
quality post friend
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>>124027972
"good" hunter
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>>124028154
There is, however, a significant difference between 600 AR and 720 AR (25 bloodtinge) or 800 AR (50 bloodtinge). Considering how much it costs to fire that thing in the first place, I'm surprised you aren't trying to milk every point of damage possible out of it.
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>>124028152
You're right but I haven't played Demon's
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>>124027972
Gatling gun. That is all
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Am I the only one who has trouble sticking to builds? I'll do my playthrough, levelling up and working towards getting whatever weapon/item I need to complete the build, then by the time I've actually obtained it all I feel like what I'm doing is now dull, since there's nowhere to go in terms of perfecting the build except dumping stats to reach BL98-120
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>>124028194
Hunter comes back again and again counting lore as well you nig
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>>124028226
He was nerfed? Was this in Scholar or before?

>>124027448
Looks around 200 MB, took longer for the game to "prep
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>>124028129
yeah flora=plant life and fauna=animal life

Yeah she is modelled after Maria, and shares some vague memories (the weight lifted when you kill Maria, the hairclip) so it would make sense she references of the Lumenflowers. It also could explain (a bit) why Maria tends to the flowers
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>>124028358
u 2
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>>124027972
Lore-wise nobody achieves such a high power level as Hunter.
Slayer becomes a pretty much an immortal hero, but he can't kill an old one or ascend to higher plane of existence.
Chosen Undead can't even fully kill barely awakened Manus.
Bearer is the weakest of the bunch.
Hunter is the only one who achieves an ascension and becomes a being of an entirely different level of existence.
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>>124028407
I was just going to post that i have fucked all my builds up, too high endurance, vit not at 50, str skill at 25 and i'm lvl 95 no room to play with if i want to stay below 99, now i'm just making a new character for arcane kin mode in the dlc
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Harrowed set is great if not for that dangling sack on the back, fucking shit
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My 1.08 doesn't want to DL. Fuck me in the ass for buying the EU version.
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>>124028457
"prepare to download" than actually download*

auto post, oops.
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I've noticed something really interesting. When doing coop by Ludwig, phantoms can't hit the dude banging his head against the gate like with other important npcs.

Is there some secret to him?
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>mfw i just realized why they changed father g's summoning sign location.
>closer to his daughters/home.
>dem feels.
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>>124027972
>>124028540
Undead or Bearer because they can block
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>>124028457
I know they nerfed him in Scholar of the first Casual. I can't recall if they nerfed him in the vanilla game since I beat him once and said fuck that never again.
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>>124028584
>Not having your sack in the back above your crack.

That's whack.
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>>124028407
I've got five builds, with my last just rounding out ihyll now. The other for all have delicious top tier gems.

I swap off when I feel like it. So far arcane ayyyy mode is fucking delicious. So much gank squad fanmail.

SERVERS BACK UP FUCKING WHEN
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>>124028274
I don't think too many guys in armor can take a cannonball to the face. But if Slayer of Demon's gets his Running Firestorm up he wins by default. The other two are incredibly unremarkable.
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>>124028370
What part of "highly specific build" your autistic ass can't understand?
PvE shitters won't go for bloodtinge, especially on first playthrough. Most of them used ludwigs on some manner of STR builds and almost every pve baby i've invaded in first months has a cannon. This is why it was nerfed, not because some pvp faggots got mad.
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>>124027419
i'll give you that annalise does nothing. and i'll even concede yharnam uses blood blades. but honestly pthumeru appears to have existed so far back in the timeline that a proper lineage surviving its downfall seems unlikely. we have a source in-game that confirms there's still a living bloodline that can trace its way back to cainhurst. and the item descriptions mention cainhurst, as you've said.

i almost think the opposite of you. it's easy to link maria to yharnam because of the bloody blades but i really can't dig up any more evidence to suggest a relationship between the two.
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>>124028619
He turns white like other NPCs in the game, but you can still loot the 5 vials
there's also the NPC in ludwig's boss room who just laughs if you save him. probably nothing honestly.
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>>124028654
where is it? i assumed i fucked up the requirements when he wasnt there in a new game the other day
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>>124021992
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>>124028619
he just isn't an enemy
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>>124027502
the similarities, holy
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>>124028709
I don't think many guys in trenchcoats can take a greatsword to the face.
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>>124028153
It only applies to beast claws because everything else is unlocked with badges
You could easily attribute the fact they never patched it with how it simply isn't gamebreaking or progress changing in anyway, you have to be at the endgame to do it anyway so it's only convenient if at all if you just hate doing dungeons
The glitch where people who don't have the dlc can get into it is in the exact same style of the beast claws glitch, someone else gets summoned into your dream with something and certain unlock flags get changed because it thinks you unlocked them, so if unlocking the beast claws that way wasn't a glitch then that obviously wasn't either and from intended for people to be able to get the dlc without paying
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>>124028619

Probably because he is a constant 5 Vials.

What I see "good" host do is they wait for the summons to get here, and kill the gate banging guy so the summons can Blood Bullet, Heal, then loot the 5 Vials.

The funniest thing about this is that the THREE times I've been witness to this, the host died to Ludwig every time.

So maybe theyre not so good as hosts after all.
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>>124028769
near the fountain where the shortcut to his daughter is.
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>>124027972
Neither the Chosen Undead nor the Bearer of the curse can die. Isn't the hunter "dreaming" anyway? So when he wakes up he's just a normal jap highschooler faggot. Also the slayer of demons, you forgot him.

My money's on Chosen Undead. You go around literally killing all the gods, a close to immortal dragon that inherited a god's soul, 4 kings that inherited a god's soul and became super human by devouring humanity, killed a bitch that was feared by the gods themselves for her art of life drain, killed the owner of the dark soul singlehandedly stopping the spread of the abyss, slayed the greatest knight known to lordran infused with the power of the dark, even killed the "last" of the everlasting dragons kalameet, etc etc etc.

And for him, it was tuesday.
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>>124028878
whyd they move it? hes closer to the cleric beast in the previous spot
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>>124028797
You completely missed the point.
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>>124028307

I guess I only put him first because I felt that "The Old One" compared with all the other entities (Great Ones) you meet/come up against in Bloodborne, I felt that the Old One was a much stronger force or at the very least could not be stopped except by the Slayer of Demons
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>>124024795
>>124027502
I must be being trolled, this is the exact same face
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>old hunter bone belongs to maria
everything makes sense now
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>>124028540
But chosen undead did kill manus. Not even the gods in their prime could stop him, nor the gods strongest knight.
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>>124028407
Oh, I do indeed.
>get to Research Hall with my main pre-DLC build
>bored now, want to make a new Beast mode build
>make a new Beast mode build, complete with 27.2% gems and smash everything up until the Fishing Hamlet
>have a shitload of fun spelunking and co-oping with SRRC, it's fast as fuck
>get Simon's Bow, fall in love
>make a new Ski/Blt build, something I've never done before (never touched Chikage etc)
>currently enjoying the fuck out of it, up to Orphan at BL60 and doing chalices...again
I can feel an Ayy build coming on though. Doing Orphan under BL90 is gonna be tuff tho.

>>124028678
I'm gonna have like six fully gemmed builds at this point, I've never been so into a Souls game before, I usually get bored after 200 hours. I blame Lovecraft.
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>>124028990
i'm assuming it's there to help noobs with the 2 werewolves on the bridge.
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>>124026757
>>124026779
i did it guys i killed him
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Wait, so the more Insight I have, the harder my game gets?
That's pretty fuckin' bullshit to be honest.
>tfw have 70
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>>124022162
I like 1 5 & 6
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What the fuck From, I need help with your cheap shit bosses.
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>>124028893
The Hunter cannot die too though. MP revives him every time he dies.
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>>124029060
>old hunter bone belongs to gehrman
everything makes sense now
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>>124028893
>killed the owner of the dark soul
He defeated a highly weakened version of it and as DS2 has shown, never managed to truly kill him.
And it's the only being you can call comparable to the great ones. No matter how much Gwyn or others called themselves "gods", they were just supercharged humanoids and not truly a beings of higher order capable of manipulating space and time.
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>>124028752
Maybe it's just from being from. The rakuyo's description could easily go either way, Yharnam or Annalise. She dislikes her heritage, whether it be to Cainhurst or Pthumeru. It all depends on which type of bloody blade you interpret.
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>>124027972
POWER LEVEL LISTING

1. Buffstacked Santa Monscim Havelyn Hexer
2. nothing deserves to be next to the above
3. Good Hunter with top tier gems
3 (tied). Rob SO Flynn
4. Great Club Havelmom
5. MLGS Havelmom
6. Rapier Havelmom
7. Generic 61 Poise Quality Build Knight
8. Giantmom
9. 550 defense Black Iron / Giant midroller

ETC POWERGAP

20. Scirvir
21. Slayer of Demons

DeS protag is weak compared to all others in status, health, options, poise, defense
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The chosen undead is the only one with working poise and he has a flippy ring. He wins by default.
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>>124029060
i'd give her a bone if you know what i mean ;)
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so the old hunter bone is maria's dildo?
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>>124028893

Gods who have had all their power drained.

Good Hunter wins but only because his playing field is set to such a higher power level than all the other shit the protagonists had to deal with.
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>>124029154
>old hunter bone belongs to me
everything makes sense now
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>>124028654

The timeline's all screwy anyway. How did Gascoin partner up with Henryk when Henryk is an Old Hunter?
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>>124028893
Well, when you compare Great Ones to the lords in DS1 the Great Ones are fundamentally superior. They exist on a higher plane of being.
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What was your first moment where the Beasthunting Van Hellsing vibe was pulled out from under your feet and the Lovecraftian horror started seeping in?

Mine was the Tonsil Stone.
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>>124029214
>Scirvir
Fucking hell, haven't heard that name for a long time. I miss the DeS loading screens.
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>>124029214
>pc kuk shit
fuck the right off kuk
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>>124029308
Henryk is immortalish
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>>124024825
Yes I would believe that to be the point of the sword's dramatic entrance. We dont fight any of these legendary beast people when they are "pre-beast" so to speak. That scene is show the constant guiding nature of the sword. We never encounter an unbroken character in this game if you think about it
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>>124029072
He never managed to truly kill him.
He also only fought one god at his prime and it was a weak faggot who could only run away and shoot soul spears. Gwyn was a shallow copy of himself at that point, four lords and knights don't even deserve to stay near the level of BB's dimension-jumping abominations.
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>>124029158
Ds2 is literally headcanon. Just because his soul split doesn't mean he didn't die. By your logic no one the cursed undead killed died because soul of gwyn is in OiK, the god of death is in the rotten, and the witch is in the lost sinner.

Btw once you've killed the actual god of death, you are pretty much OP. That's like killing satan.
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Okay, so I'm just finishing up my Arcane build so I can use the parasite and was wondering what the best version of it was for gemming pure arcane dablage. I was looking at the lost one since it has triangle and waning, but I've read a few other places talking about uncanny due to radial, triangle, radial. But I always thought that radial was better for physical and waning for arcane. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>124029214
>21.Slayer of Demons

You have never seen a Cursed Weapon, Second Chance, Meat Cleaver.

Have you?
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>>124029214
Where's Havelmom McLightning Flip?
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>>124029214
>I liked DS2 and never played DeS, the post
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>>124029359
As soon as I saw the statue in Hypogaen Gaol. Suddenly I realised what the weird statues were in the Grand Cathedral.
>tfw you will never be granted eyes for the first time ever again
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>>124028752
Maria's blood blades look more like the trick chikage while Yharnam has more a flow of blood that surrounds her blade.
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>>124024916
If you want some advice thats led to my success against this boss... Right before hes about to do his rocket punch his hand briefly unfolds. When his fingers unfold, you're about a half second away from being hit so dodge then
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>>124029437
he's a pcfag
of course not
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>>124029158
Where are you getting that manus was weakened? The manus you fight is manus in his prime. So strong, even after giving other pygmies and spreading his dark soul around, that even the gods couldn't stop him.

>>124029151
The hunter is in a dream. He can't leave his dream world and no one else can go in.
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>>124029383
The scene We fight gascan in pre-beast mode. Are there ny theories about him being a cunt to his wife and kids as he doesn't turn into a huge beast suggesting he is a virtuous human
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>>124029170
I just really can't imagine Pthumeru being anything but irretrievably ancient. So old the current day humans named a city after its leader.

And the Rakuyo description is the most damning of all evidence. It directly mentions the Chikage's blood power and it states she was not fond of such blood blades. If the Chikage hadn't been mentioned I could see there being leeway but with it blatantly namedropped like that I just can't imagine From would actually mean Yharnam, unless they intended the description as one huge red herring. And what purpose would such misdirection serve?
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>>124029359
When I saw those aliens at the woods. I was so confused. Pic is mfw
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>wake up from nap, heat up pizza
>bloodborne 1.08 patch
>sweet, servers will be u-
>Server is undergoing maintenance.
>Starting game in offline mode.
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>>124029214

Good Hunter wouldnt beat any of the previous games' abusive builds
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>>124027054
>They literally have only nerfed one thing in the entire game, and it was a glitch.
They nerfed the cannon.
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>>124029437
Weak
As
Fuck

compared to all others

Meat Cleaver has less AR than a lightning claymore in DaS1, it's pitiful split damage and only works because of the ridiculously low defense in Demon's Souls, capping at about 200
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>>124029556
I thought they were mushrooms for the longest time.
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>>124025143
it was gehrman

>deepest lore
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>>124029273
Manus can't be killed by gods in their prime, manus is in his prime when you fight him, chosen undead kills manus.

Chosen Undead > Manus in his Prime > Gods in their prime

The chosen undead could easily battle gwyn in his prime.
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>>124027808
Heat seeking arcanery
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>>124029571
Good Hunter can't be stunlocked or backstabbed, has damage beyond RoBSOFlynn while also having effective defense like in DaS1.
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>>124029359
>kill Amelia
>turn around after touching the skull
>notice all the funny heads on the statues lining the walk up to the cathedral

h-heh....
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>>124029527
What? He only goes to the dream when he dies or when he willingly enters it. We're talking about his immortality here.
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>>124025580
Gehrman is such a sad character. Missing his right leg, probably from the hunt (scourge of beasts starts at the right leg according to folklore so maybe he cut it off?) he has severe oneitis for a dead girl and hes trapped in a dream for all eternity
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>>124029359

>see cosmic rift thing in Cathedral Ward for the first time
>Uhh okay whatever thats weird I guess
>Start to see bagman after BSB, okay I wonder whats their deal
>Get taken to Hypogeon Gaol
>Listening to the music in that area, alright now this is getting really weird
>Jump into the moonside lake
>Okay what the hell this is really weird now
>Ritual has been broken, seek the child of the nightmare and stifle its cries
>Uhh wasn't I meant to be looking for Oedon Chapel or something?
>Look up and see an Amygdala
>Okay what the fuck
>Walk down stairs and find myself at the top of Yahar'gul
>Look out over the unseen village, amygdala's everywhere, paleblood moon etc.
>jesus christ what the fuck is happening
>Everything is really fucked up
>One Reborn summoning ritual

Was pretty fucked up, I didn't find Nightmare Frontier, Cainhurst or Upper Cathedral Ward on my first playthrough.
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>>124029716
More importantly, pre-patch rifle spear, if we're talking about builds people took advantage of.
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>>124029535
Because it doesn't say that she frowned upon the chikage, it says she frowned upon blood blades.

If it was more direct, and she was putting down cainhurst, there would be no room for interpretation. But it wasn't, she didn't, and there is.
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>>124029584
>double S scaling
>weak

Do you even know what Cursed Weapon and Second Chance do?
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>>124029513
Yes this is true. I just didn't want to come off like I was ignoring the most glaring piece of evidence that it could possibly be Yharnam, though I don't think it is.
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>>124029735
Do you not understand the story at all? The whole game is a dream. The hunter is a dream itself. The night of the hunt, all a dream.
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>>124029779
I wonder why he stopped at a simple doll.
He was a host of the dream and probably could create a full copy of Maria.
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>>124029359
the amy before Hypogeon Gaol, but also before defeating rom, so It killed me. That's what I get for exploring, I guess
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>>124029779

We dont even know if Maria is actually dead in the first place.
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>>124029890
Probably didn't want something so close to the original, knowing full well it's a conjuration of his imagination.
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>>124029726
>mfw I saw those statues and genuinely had the Oblivious-Movie-Character-Reaction and said to myself
>"Man, these guys have some weird taste in architecture"
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>>124029884
>there are still people that think a "dream" is a dream

Classic
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>>124029428
You can't use most wanings (fire or bolt) on it as it has inbuilt Arc, which cancels out fire and bolt damage automatically. You want the uncanny for 2 radials and a triangle as you can get flat arcs and arc %s in those shapes fairly easily. You want %s really
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>>124029884
No it is not you bumbling idiot. Dreams are different realities. I thought this stupid meme died a long time ago
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> wrecked Laurence and Ludwig
> feeling pretty confident
> go back to Loran and get devastated by Abhorrent
The nightmare swirls and churns unending.
What's a good quality alt for Beast Claw?
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>>124029884
Don't start this. It's Type Moon power level discussion time, not theories that are pointless to think about time.
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>>124029702
>>124029702
The circle button on your controller allows you to not die if you use it correctly
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>>124029428

What you want to do is this

Uncanny Parasite which it sounds like you already know so thats good.

Get a 22.5+ scaling radial Abyssal from FRC Elder
Abyssal arc%+ triangle
arc%+ radial from Bone Ash Hunter

I should make a guide about this
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>>124029726
>mfw the end of Spiral

Also yep, Hypogaen Gaol. The statues, the chanting, the little statues. Then you get outside and see the moon and the chanting gets louder. What a great area. Scared the shit out of me.
>tfw you still wonder if the main male singing voice is Micolash
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>>124029884
Oh god

>>124030076
because you have a massive dick
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>>124029884
it's a Lovecraftian dream-cycle kind of dream
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>>124029813
I guess nightmare frontier but Upper cathedral ward really sealed it for me. As soon as I saw a crazy space monster named "Daughter of the cosmos" I knew it was full blown cosmic fuckery
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Who thought it was a good idea to give Vicar Amelia hitboxes on her legs for moving, on her tail for turning and on her hands for returning to their resting position? Those little fucking bumps that constantly interrupt your combos and dashes are annoying, what is even the point in having them? I never encountered that shit my first time through because she died way too fast, but with a +3 BoM the fight took long enough for her shitting hitboxes to start become a piss off.

On the bright side, the game as a whole is a lot more challenging and enjoyable with these daggers than with strength weapons. I didn't even see half of Amelia's moveset the first time through because she died too fast
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>>124030076
I honestly have no idea.
I've never found him difficult.
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>>124020031
Jesus Kos, where did you learn how to English bruv. That's almost has anyone ever been so far levels.


But on a more serious note, I get ya mate. I would like to see maybe not a full BB sequel, but at least 1 more xpack for the game. Would be cool to get just a touch more lore on the Pthumerians or Cainhurst. Fuck man, I'd be so down for an xpack where we get to go back and see the events that led to Martyr Logarius being stuck where he was.
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>>124029884
>he thinks the dream is actually a "dream"
top wew lad
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>>124030076
because not everyone uses that memesword like a scrub. memesword = easy mode.
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>>124030119
This is better than 2 abyssal scaling gems?
do you have good glyphs for the abyssal arc%+ triangle and radial?
is there any circumstance where 2 abyssal cold gems are better?
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>>124029852
Do you know what 90 / 90 un-upgradable base damage means?
Do you not know what low base damage and high scaling means? Have you used Priscilla's Dagger, as one example?
Shit anon
Meat Cleaver is okay in Demon's Souls, but power level wise, it is NOTHING to the other weapons in the other series
Remember than DBS, the big Fuck You second chance breaker, had 500 or so AR not minding cursed weapon.

Slayer of Demons, statwise, is the weakest in the series.
He kills other Slayers of Demons in two~four hits because of the horribly low defense and HP.
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>>124030076
>boop
>boop
>boop
>boop

Cheeky faggot
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>>124029969
>Seeing that Amygdala statue in Hypogean goal along side a dude with a cage head
Okay
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>>124029702
I fucking hate Rom. Beat him / her for the first time today. Why do the spiders have so much defense? I hit them and they only take maybe 2 or 5 dmg. Then they come together in swarms and surround the boss, turning the tussle into a tedious phalanx fight, waiting for the spiders to disperse just the tiniest bit for you to go in and get one or two hits off Rom, before he / she flails around, or does the stalag arcane attack.
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>>124030076
>Blood echoes retrieved
Yeah faggot
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>>124030076
Because not everybody crutches on ludwigs to carry them through chalices
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>>124030069
it was a chainstun
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>>124030076
yea because he does only that the whole fight *rolls eyes*
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>>124030076

>head strat

lmao
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>>124029834
No, her frowning on blood blades came directly after the mention of Chikage's reliance on blood and her favoring of bloodless skill. Again, what purpose would this misdirection serve? Why would From throw in a contrast between Chikage's use of blood and Rakuyo's demand for dexterity if it wasn't meant to indicate her opinion of Cainhurst?
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>>124030179
it's to keep you from engaging her only from behind/from the side
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>>124030179
I didn't hear half of Amelia's cries the first time because she deafened me within two attacks.
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>>124029884
vaati pls

wait, I don't think vaati ever actually put this idea forward
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>>124029949
At the least she's missing and permanently displaced I'd say
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>>124030307
Even Vaati wasn't that fucking stupid
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>>124030237
Their heads are stone shields, anon. They reduce damage from the front like the plank shield villagers. Attack them from the side
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>>124030076
Weak shit, you need to employ gameshark strats and equip a Bowblade to kill him 10 times faster.
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>>124029716
RobSOFlynn isn't even that good compared to DaS level of horseshit. On my str character in dark souls 2 I could barely ever get past 700 AR on the strongest ar weapon in the game. I could easily do that in dark souls.

You guys are also forgetting
RTSR with 50% damage
Flippy Ring
The only game with Poise so can't be stunlocked even more than hunter can't
DARK MAGIC 1 SHOTS
WoG Spam
45 dex GC spam
Hornet Ring

And if you want to include "pvp depth" (aka glitches) then you have tumble buffing, moveswapping, backstab escapes, toggle escaping (essentially BB escapes), and deadangles.
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>>124030076
>memesword
>doesn't attempt that in phase 2 because he'd get rekt
>not just dodging through the head swipes and getting multiple hits in
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>>124030076
At least have the sense to not show your bloodstain in a webm where you mock a boss for how easy it is
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>>124029496
This holy fucking shit.
>I literally slowly walked my character up to it
>creepy choir intensifies
>I legit said "wait, what the hell is that thing? Why is there music? What even is that?"

And then everything went eyes so fucking fast
But that first contact let me know not everything was as it seemed here, and it was fantastic. I wanted to know more.
Please from I love this game don't let it go ;;
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>>124030076
>2EASY4ME
>blood echoes retrieved
o i am laffin
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>>124028831
Cannon is not unlocked with any badges, mate. Not even the Powderkeg one. Uncanny and Lost weapons are also not unlocked with badges.

However: I was aware of the glitch for accessing the DLC, but not how to do it. Must've missed it during the week I shut myself in to play it. If it does in fact work off the same trick, then it should also fix the thing with Claws.

So if it does, then we'll know.
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>>124029779
One of his arms too actually.
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>>124030560
It's over, anon. In about 2 months, we'll be nothing but pvp talk with the occasional shitting on vaati's recent video
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>>124030560
On one hand, I want From to move on and leave BB as it is, because it's my GOTY and a game I'll play for years to come like DeS and DaS. On the other hand, I don't want to get Dark Souls 2: Bloodborne edition. I don't think I'll ever get over how bitterly disappointed I was with DaS2
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>>124030216
> hiding DLC in an already secret area
I wouldn't put it above From.
All the access to the DLC areas are always ambiguous as fuck except maybe the first 2 DaS2 DLCs
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>>124026887
lol I wonder what this guy is up to
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>>124030254
That is an easy conclusion to come to, but it is no more or less viable than her frowning on blood-empowered blades in general.

There is no misdirection. The chikage and the rakuyo come from the same county, and the chikage is a blade that feeds on blood. It's an easy example, and a bit of lore.

I might even say that it becomes less about cainhurst if her own blood is the reason she frowns upon blades. If she is related to Yharnam, her blood would be strong stuff. Strong blade-suping-up stuff. And as her boss battle shows, it demonstrably is. It might be a subtle way of showing how determined she is to preserve the secret, that she casts off her strong belief that she does not need the gift of her blood to succeed.
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>>124030829
Neither will I. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JFDPCtXFY
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>>124029214
>1. 32 poise with a free ringslot, fap and enough weight for any 6.0 weapon

fixed that for you
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>>124030076
>408 damage
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>>124030862
Wheel still best pvp weapon 2015
You literally only need 1 attack
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>>124030683
Oh shit really? is his left arm fake?
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I can't seem to reliably get the giant on the bridge near Gascan to kill himself on the bolder anymore... tips?
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So, why are they called burritos? And why is backstepping in a different direction called ravioli?

Is the person who invents this shit a lardass that can't get his mind off food?
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>>124030640
I'll bet you an entire penny fresh out of my paypal if the beast claws glitch doesn't work after they fix the free dlc glitch, because they are exactly the same in triggers and execution

Atleast that's only if they fix it and still have the eye appear in the dream, if they address it simply by making it appear elsewhere without actually fixing the issue then it wouldn't change anything
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I have 48 bloodtinge
why does simon's bow hit like a wet noodle in bow form
my charged r2's are doing like 250
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>>124031092
no gems
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>>124030441
>I could easily do that in dark souls.
Only on the Crystal Demon Greataxe.
Also, are you crazy, RobSOFlynn straight swords and the like with 450~500 AR are nuts.

>RTSR
Balanced out by DaS2's broken BTSR. Brings DaS1 dude to the level of the Hunter's damage.
>Flippy Ring
Good recovery, but DaS2 protag can obtain more i-frames. Hunter also has nearly the same amount of recovery.
>The only game with Poise
Please learn how DaS2 poise works. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-iCrOdAGp3uQ9I0VgQYU2Ug2d4w2PbQZhBnobLakaMs/pubhtml
In DaS2, you can't be combo'd past two hits. DaS1 had full 100~0 stunlocks, barring toggling.
>DARK MAGIC 1 SHOTS
Climax, unnerfed GRS.
DaS2 protag can also be immune to any element. 95% after the last patch.
>WoG Spam
See above. Also, unnerfed WotG in DaS2 was the single most bullshit thing in the series. You could not roll through it at all, and it did ~2100 damage.
>45 dex GC spam
Pretty much the best argument here, however, fire is the easiest to completely negate in DaS2.
>Hornet Ring
Pretty much on par with standard backstabs in NG+. DaS2 backstabs were far worse than hornet ring before multiple patches, what with phantom backstabs dealing double damage and roll catch stabs.
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>>124030934
This video breaks my heart, but then I get so angry with those fucking liars. They fucking knew.
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>>124029214
Don't underestimate the Slayer of Demons, mate. We're talking about someone who can break all your equipment in seconds, steal your levels, stack three different types of poison on you (one of which halves your stamina recovery and two of which halve your healing), punt you off a cliff with his Stormruler, then stand over your head with an infinite Firestorm and dare you to stand up.
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>>124031092
Is your character named simon? Secret increase damage modifier for the bow.
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>>124031092
Poor gems, probably
At 40 blt and top gems my charge R2 arrows hit 800-1000 in pve
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>Servers are down for A FEW DAYS

But the patch is already up, why the fuck is it going to take them a few days to get the server back up?
This is fucking bullshit.
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>>124030954
Watchdog has huge damage reduction on its nose until you break it. Then it would be taking 1200.
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>>124030991
Considering his set doesn't come with a gauntlet, I think it's a fake arm.
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>>124027972
Guns>Magic

The speed of guns, their spamibility, and overall damage output is greater than slow moving magic projectiles.
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>>124030923
>>124030254
>>124029834
>>124029535
>>124029170
>>124028752
>>124027419
Also of note, she is related to an unDEAD queen, not an unDYING queen.
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So with NG+ selling chalice material, is it possible to just get the Isz chalice, run through it for the root and then make an FCR chalice?
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>>124031025
>people who play video games name things after food
Makes sense anon. Now get out of here before I alien spaghettiblast my linguini arms right into your chocolate cakehole.
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>>124031312
I would like to see the untranslated version. It probably a translation mistake/complication.
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>>124031218
Not to mention the fucker can munch grass like no other, the Slayer of Demons is basically invincible.
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>>124030002
Dreams are different planes, or layers of reality. The Hunter's Nightmare is one layer where yharnam intersects, The game world is another, and the world you wake up in the submit to gehrman ending is the third, real layer. You're put under when you receive blood ministration, and wake up in dream-yharnam, where everything's gone haywire from the mensis ritual.

The reason the Good Hunter can't die is because dying in a dream just means waking up, but forgetting the dream. When you die, you wake up in the Hunter's dream, because it's within the hunter's dream that you enter dream yharnam. It's some E.A. Poe dream-within-a-dream shit.
This is why you lose your blood echoes. They're explicitly stated to be the memories, thoughts and feelings of the living that lingers in their blood after death. You lose them when you die because you 'forget' when you're forcefully sent to reawaken in the hunters dream. Submitting to death in the hunter's dream is how you finally wake up and return to the real world.

The whole game is a planar journey through collapsing meta-phenomenological realms of mind. You're compelled to stop the Mensis ritual because it's dangerously degenerating the boundaries between dream and reality. The ending deliberately leaves you wondering how much of what you experienced actually happened in real yharnam, because you can't be sure how much of it was exclusive to the dream
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>>124031147
Backstabs were only fucked if both players had 60 fps because B-team are shit at coding and linked critical attacks (which hit multiple times) with fps. If both players unlocked to 60, the bs/riposte damage would be well into the 3k range. If 1 player was 30fps though it would be like 600 damage. DaS2 on console had some piss poor critical damage.

Also BTSR isn't that good in DaS2. And DaS2 poise doesn't work because of desynch. A 1hr1 from a chaos blade can do 240 poise damage if the guy spins in a circle before attacking.
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>>124031378
Still need arcane haze tool from lower Pthumeru
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>>124031292
Considering he seems to have a knack for making animate dolls, it's a definite possibility.
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>>124031378
An anon said you have to do the first three chalices like this, then you can just run through the remaining 5 without worrying about mats
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>buy a PS4 and Bloodborne
>servers are down for maintenance for "a few days"
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>>124031262
What are good gems for it? Flat or %? BLT or Phys?
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>>124031312
This, right here, is the pinnacle of pedantry.
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>>124031025
Just don't call them that, I don't

>>124031589
Rotten luck old boy, seriously. I'll defend From to the ends of the Earth but this is some bullshit
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>>124031025
Because Peeve discovered and named the original technique in Dark Souls the burrito combo, because apparently he likes burritos.

Since it's the same concept in Bloodborne, the name carried over.
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>>124031692
Not him but no it isn't, it's pertinent to the discussion
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>>124031692
You've obviously never seen DaS2 lore discussion.
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>>124031092
At 50 BLT and mensis gems i get around 530-630 depending on if i get a counter hit or headshot
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>>124031218
>break all your equipment in seconds
Man, Scraping Spear is not a threat.
In DeS, you can spam offhand falchion parries and get it without trying, and oneshot the cheeky fuck.
DaS has longer and better spears which can outpoke, along with flipping.
DaS2 can parry the thing at max range.
>steal your levels
If you're AFK
>stack three different types of poison
Weaker than normal poison in DaS2.
>punt you off a cliff
Probably his best ability, if we're fair and say it can't be poised.
>infinite Firestorm
Man if you bring up RFS I will bring up spellswapping combustion into DMB stone greatsword and backstep parries

>>124031526
No dude, I mean phantom backstabs. When you stood at a specific distance for double the ticks, which let your lightning defenders do 3000+.
You could do that on backstabs or ripostes. It was absolutely ridiculous.
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>>124029834

it says her sword and clothing were from cainhurst

how the fuck are you this dumb
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>>124032012
>Man, Scraping Spear is not a threat.

But Acid Cloud is
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>>124030441
good hunter just uses BMA evelyn and vials
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>>124031804
He didnt discover shit. Japs were doing things like that way before him. People just latch on to faggot twitch personalities and dicksuck their lel so random phrases.
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So would a Skill/BLT build be worth going for? Or am I better off trying to make full 50 Skill and Bloodtinge builds?
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>>124029108
Not strictly. Some enemies get more attacks when your insight goes above 15.
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>>124031589
Is that forbidden fun? Why is das2 the only game where everything fun was nerfed? Like they try to implement all these shitty design choices that make you think they hate pvp and hate multiplayer, but then all they did was patch and nerf shit for PvP.
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>>124031692
Cry pedant all ya want, faggot


Annalise did not die even when ground up into so much queenly flesh.

Yharnam died and yet lived.
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>>124031526
You could still trigger phantom crits on console. Before they nerfed it to oblivion, I had a mundane dagger invader instakilling hexerhavels at the max SM tier with 3.5k crits.

Incidentally, the ps3-gen armored core games all had a similar bug where multihitting attacks like melee laserblades would vary wildly from the number of hits they triggered, between doing absolutely nothing to instantkilling anything, depending entirely on framerate and latency. It's been a long-standing issue with their games and the fact that they tie important mechanics to framerate while being unable to maintain a stable or smooth 30 or 60.

As for poise, you're completely off base. The 'latency ruins poise' theory is right off of reddit and like everything else they spout, blatantly incorrect.
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>>124030076
This is perfect.

>smug attitude
>ludwigs
>blood echoes retrieved (0 (zero))
>cuts off before watchdog changes tactics
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Why did my charged R2 not do any damage here?
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So uh, how come the new patch was 9 gigabytes? I already downloaded the dlc so it would make zero sense if it redownloaded it.
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>>124032109
Gonna need a sauce on that one, Jim.
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>>124031528
Bummer so you still need to slog through the first 3 chalices
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>head over to /dsg/
>shitposting galore
>arguments happening every two seconds
>more shitposting
Fug. This makes me love bb even more now. This general and everyone in it are fucking amazing after going back to visit that shithole
I love you /bbg/
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Holy shit i don't know why i was struggling with loran dark beast but i final did it.
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>>124031481
This makes the most sense. It explains why they are called "echoes", it explains why you wake up in a hospital like room with blood pumped into your veins, it explains the ending, it explains the dream-within-a-dream shit, etc etc.

If you guys disagree with this, what is your viewpoint on it?
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>>124032230
T-thanks, senpai
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>>124032230
>le epik ork meme
>whining about shitposting
>whining about arguements
MORE PROOF /vg/ IS A MEME HAVEN HUGBOX
:3
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How many "story" chalice dungeons are there?
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>>124031025
Cause random mexican food is hilarious didn't you know? Man I love Invader Zim!
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>>124032230
Of course, we do love you too. Isn't that how you made us?
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>Mad as fuck about downtime
>Remember I have a Beast Claws build waiting to kill Laurence
>mfw ripping through Laurence and Ludwig in under 20 minutes
>mfw trying out beast mode
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>>124032230
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>>124030076
LUDWIGS


CANNON

TRIGGERED

YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>124030221
I’m not at home at the moment, but I’ll post what I can remember.

I get 27-30 or so more damage when I have this set up.

1st gem: Arcane Scaling 22.5+ Abyssal (It has to be 22.5, even a slight drop to 21.8 and you’ll lose something like 40 damage)
2nd gem: Arcane 24.8% + good secondary effect Triangle Abyssal
3rd gem: The best ARC gem the Bone Ash Hunter can drop which is something like 23.something% ARC scaling

For some strange reason whenever I equip two 22.5+ scaling radials, I don’t get as much damage on the Doll as I do when I have my gem set up which I listed above. This has to do with some strange way the scaling works (which I honestly think is bugged at the moment with how the arcane scaling can add something like 50 damage even when it’s only increasing something like .8 of a percent).

The glyphs I used was the kkvk8gsj for the 22.5 abyssal radial (must be rank 20 and must be 22.5 for best damage). I can’t remember the one where I got the Triangle abyssal, and the arc gem was from the Bone Ash Hunter which any arc build should be grinding at some point from the glyph which I again can’t remember.

I am certain however the glyphs can all be found in the OP.
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>>124032135
>As for poise, you're completely off base. The 'latency ruins poise' theory is right off of reddit and like everything else they spout, blatantly incorrect.

But that's wrong. /dsg/ did intensive testing with this shit. Some guy even made a huge google doc with how poise was working and how desynch affected it.
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>>124032215
do you honestly believe a trash pvp player from twitch pioneered or discovered anything? just like oroboro claiming the 100 meta is his that he invented
fuck every last one of those faggots
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>>124032230
We love you too
Now stop being a Nancy and go get some eyes inside
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>>124031481
But anon, when I die I wake up at the lamp
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I wonder what the doll's farts smell like.
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>>124029108
This is a myth
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>people un-ironically start as military veteran
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What IS a burrito anyway /bbg/? Is it when you hit someone then riposte?
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>>124032230
Eh, /bbg/ has zebrapost-chan, but I guess that's better than console wars and people with very fucked up perceptions about pretty much everything you could think of. Including sex drive.
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>>124032507
Yes, he discovered the burrito combo which is something like an offhand curved sword parry where you can get an R1 before the riposte.

You still haven't provided evidence to the contrary.
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>>124031025
Because it's another reminder that only a retard would take pvp in these games seriously
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>>124032613
>people start as the best quality build
Yes friend?
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>>124032494
Thanks for the info anon.
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Should I level endurance past 30?
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>>124032109
>mfw agreeing with kockbra with once.
>soulbrantfags are lame.
>peeve trying to beat orphan on ng+7
>jap player does it level 4, perfect(no damage taken) and ng+7 already.
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>chosen undead and bearer of the curse team up since they are from the same universe
>they both spam twop (with lingering dragoncrest) and wog

GG Slayer and Hunter.
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>>124032230
I LOVE YOU TOO ANON

PRAISE BE TO /bbg/


saw is shit
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>>124032638
Yes, but it has to be quick enough to hit them before they're able to roll out of the parry animation.
It also has to do so little poise damage, that it will not stagger them out of the parry animation.
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>>124032721
you shouldnt level it past 20
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>>124032613
My quality build did
What is your refute to this, chump
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>>124032603
>>124029108
at 1 and fifteen insight enemies gain abilities
at 1 insight, the Witch of Hembrickfuckass will summon sicklebeasts
at 15 insight, the church lantern bearers gain arcane attacks.

if you have any insight at all, the brainsuckers grapple will leech 2 from you everytime it hits.
idk about any else
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does bone marrow ash or whatever affect the damage of simon's bowblade's shots at all?
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>>124032113
Basically you can either go 50 blt/25skl and use the bowblade, katana, bloodletter and guns, but nothing else, or you can go 25blt/50skl and still use the aforementioned weapons with slightly less damage, but also use the burial blade, blade's of mercy, rakuyo, threaded cane, beasthunter's saif, etc. as well.

If you're really, really dead set on using your katana and bloodmace at maximum damage, then you should go for the 50 blt, but otherwise you get a lot more breadth and variety with skl.

I'd actually recommend going to 25 of both before moving beyond, and giving both playstyles a shot when +6 weapons are still decent. Get a feel for which you prefer and choose how to finish your build and invest points/chunks based on that.
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>>124032721
Fuck no, I go 20 but if you're 30 don't go further.
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>>124032661
do you have any evidence he was the one who discovered anything? Neither of us do. I don't log stupid shit like that and never will.
>>124032726
There isn't one single twitch player I've ever seen that's even remotely close to the best of the best in the community, yet people latch onto them like leeches, i'll never understand it.
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>>124032559
Just because making you warp back to the lamp from the dream, would be a horrible design choice. double loading screens is a fate worse than death.
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>>124032721
keep it at base

only meme R1 spam weapons like beast claws need more than base, but never more than 20
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>>124032721
15 end is fine for everything except heavy STR/beast claw builds. Arguably BoM. And for them, 20.
You can dodge 11 times at base stamina. There is no weight or poise system.
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>>124032867
but with more blt your guns also do silly damage
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>>124032638
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Goddamn it Paarl is such a shit fight. What the fuck why is it so hard to hit any part of him.

And that stupid fucking AOE lightning attack that even with two dash backs you can't get away from it. What the fuck.
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>>124032916
Burden of proof, etc, etc.
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>>124032756
but both of these things have a pretty limited range. Also Chosen Undead would shack up with Solaire instead.
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>>124032867
25blt is a fucking waste

not enough gun damage to be worth it and all of the weapons that scale with blt, purely scale with blt and do best damage at 50
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Can a normal R1 arrow from the bowled be used to parry
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sites are starting to report the fake patch notes

http://www.product-reviews.net/2015/12/02/bloodborne-1-08-update-notes-after-server-maintenance/

ebin
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>>124032638
>>124032775
>>124032997

Oh, fuck I didn't even know you could burrito in BB. I thought you were just referring to the original.
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>>124032916
Gnats are attracted to lights
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>>124032756
*drinks blue elixir*
*uses old hunter bone*
*teleports behind you*
*L2 chikage and visceral*
pssh nothin personnel
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MAKE A NEW THREAD BEFORE PAGE 10 YOU FUCKS
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>>124030934
god damn if only the game was actually like this. This couldve been a really interesting way to direct the dark souls series towards a more slow paced, immersive adventure, especially now that we have bloodborne
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>>124032775
so skill weapons?
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From

From pls

I'm recovering from fucking brain surgery and I just want to play your game

Why you do this
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>>124028274
Transform attacks are a guaranteed guard break, he'd be fine.
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Hey i just noticed i dont have the guidance rune even tho already killed ludwig? Bug?
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>>124031804
>eceleb shit

I see
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When's the earliest I can meet Haggard Guy and kill him to get the Bowblade? I need it for my Robin character
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>>124033231
Can you hear the ocean, Anon?
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>>124033078
Get good and dash through the lightning AoE and punish it.
>>124033084
I really don't care. If you want to go around touting peeve like some kind of pvp champion and pioneer, be my guest, you're just as bad as the twitch cocksuckers. in reality he's maybe average at the game and his only claim to fame is parry fishing and le epik randum names
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I was having so much fun fighting Maria I went back to DMC4SE and did some vergil cuhrazy shit. Still didn't scratch that itch.

cuhrazy game starring maria as she fights the early beasts when
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Whats THE FASTEST old hunter weapon?
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>>124032916
simple really. the souls community has no top tier personality. all mediocre shit that whine all the fucking time and not just enjoy the game. even watching the lastest sunlightblade bloodborne epiosde, dude didn't even recognize the bloodlickers and thought they were new enemies. these faggots don't even play the game.
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>>124033231
>Brain Surgery
Did they remove brain fluid from you anon?
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>>124031292
Never noticed that. Thats cool
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>>124033153
>chugs some blue shit
>can still see this cunt bright as day
>he tries to poof around or some shit
>hes extremely over encumbered and can't
>hit him with some dark magic
>he can't roll away

Face it, the hunter is fucking useless without dodging.
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>>124032613
why not?
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>>124033321
I don't give a fuck about Peeve, but he discovered it, simple as that, shithead. Why are you so butthurt?
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>>124033084
Not to be a smarmy cunt but come the fuck on, man. I guarantee he's actually right for once and superasians were doing that shit and calling it the eggroll long before someone who has a lot of nerds smashing that like button made it well known.
You will literally never, ever get a straight answer out of "who did it first". To argue either stance you happen to be on is pretty silly.
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>>124033231
He actually did it.

He actually lined his brain.

The absolute soon-to-be-literal madman
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>>124032113
I don't like SKL on BLT builds
25 SKL is enough for some okay viscerals, but you hardly get any use out of it, the chikage charged r2 on a back into followup r2 is far stronger
I'd recommend just going 14/15/50, that gets you bloodletter, simon's bowblade, and chikage

http://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/8745
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>>124033386
The hunter can't be overencumbered.
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>>124032230
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>>124033332
Saif or Rakuyo most likely.
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>>124033386
>Hunter
>over encumbered
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>used too always kick myself for putting 20 end on my arc build
>mfw the stamina drain on that parasite
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>>124033434
>calling it the eggroll
Lost it
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>>124033321
Why are you so fucking mad about twitch streamers? None of them even claim to be the best, they just enjoy playing the games and people enjoy watching them. Quit being so assblasted that not everyone is the elitist faggot you seem to be.
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>>124033386
>lead elixer
or
>spam blunderbuss until TWOP wears off
My dad can beat up your dad
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>>124033386
the hunter is fucking useless without dodging
so is every other protagonist????
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>>124031292
If his set came with ONE gauntlet I'd be into it, as it is I don't buy it
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>>124033104
But all the characters need to get in close to fight, and with dark magic, css, and hcsm, sunlight spear, etc etc etc they can out damage most hunter tools/guns and most des spells.
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>>124033386
the fuck are you talking about? Even if you confused blue elixir with lead elixir you're still wrong, neither affect your ability to dodge.
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>>124033337
Such a strange community. Thousands of dollars a month to vaati for BLATANTLY WRONG lore, hundreds of dollars in subs to darklordsen for being mediocre in pvp, same with oroboro (who thinks bloodborne is complete shit)...i don't understand it, i really don't.
>>124033408
>peeve discovered it because i said so!!!
shut your cocksucker and move on anon.
>>124033591
If you're MAKING MONEY PLAYING VIDEO GAMES you should at least be halfway decent at the game you're playing. it defies all logic and I hate people for it.
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>>124033313
Nah man, cyberpunk body horror, not Mythos. I've got an electrode sending electricity into my hypothalamus 24/7 now.
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>>124033231
I told him to put eyes on his brain and he did it, the absolute madman! AWOOO!

>>124033309
like 3 minutes in
>first lamp
>run to the cathedral entrance where you see tentacle face guy for the first time
>go to the right, through the cave, past the 5 turrets
>past the bloodlicker ladies, up and over the bridge (it's easier than going under with the bloodlickers)
>small hallway where you get back to the first lamp, he's waiting right there, open the shortcut first
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>>124033309
as soon as you unlock the shortcut in hunter's nightmare
so after killing vicar amelia
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>PEEVE ACTUALLY BELIEVES THE MARIA YOU FIGHT IS A FAKE MARIA
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>>124032916
Peeve is the only one that I like. He's always pretty calm and he doesn't say stupid shit besides his lore speculation stuff. I mean he fought laurence and the orphan for like 40 total hours and he never got mad once, i dont even know how
>>
>>124032837
So then it only makes specific encounters more difficult in extremely specific ways. It doesnt "make the game harder" as such a broad statement would suggest
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>>124033767
Peeve has literally never been serious about lore discussion
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>>124033701
Fools and their money, easily parted, etc.
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>>124033797
>he runs a 40 END beast claw build and fumbles his way through easy PvE encounters
>people like this
i just don't get it. i probably never will.
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It's my first time grinding in the CDs for gems. Am I right in thinking that you must complete Cursed and Defiled to start getting worthwhile gems? That sounds horrible.
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>>124032504
That testing was full of shit, further testing has been done since then and we have a much better understanding of poise. Basically poise damage has different (and obviously unlisted) values in pvp, which are generally around double to triple the listed in game value for 1HR1s. 1HR2s are higher, and 2H attacks are even higher still, sometimes even up to double the 1H moveset.

Certain weapons grant a period during the animation of certain attacks in their moveset 'hyper armor', where the poise damage you take is cute by 50%. Also, rolling attacks as well as various assorted attacks from various weapon movesets have the property of always breaking poise in pvp unless the target is in active hyperarmor.

The reason katanas are doing ~200+ poise damage is that a 2H katana R1 actually does around that much poise damage, and the running attack does even more than that. For anything larger than a rapier or dagger, you essentially need over 100 poise and be using active hyperarmor frames in order to poisetank a 2H attack. For anything larger than a longsword, it becomes impractical to stack enough poise to poisetank a 2H running attack, even with hyperarmor. On top of that, poise regenerates at a negligible rate until you're finally staggered, at which point it's instantly restored upon your recovery. So, basically, you can only ever poisetank one hit before your poise is effectively depleted and you can't poise anything again until you're staggered.

It's not latency or a bug, the game was just actually desigjned to completely fuck poise. From hates and regrets that mechanics, evidently, which is probably why it didn't appear in BB.
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>>124033279
Help i cant find it ;_;
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>>124033923
I mean i guess you dont have to. I think running a wonky build is kind of fun and that was the point of his runthrough. He has an inviting personality and most importantly hes not a dick. I check his streams occasionally when I cant play just cuz its pretty enjoyable
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>>124033767
His chat is far more retarded apparently
>Oedon is the black shadow you see after the Orphan fight
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>>124033112
25blt is enough for the Chikage and bloodletter to be usable. You lose out on damage, but not enough to relegate the weapons to the trashbin.
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>>124033231
PLIP
L
O
P
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>>124032812
I really want to know what caused sloths to evolve into the creatures they are, how can something be that lazy and still survive?
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>>124034093
found the faggot that pays peeve's patreon.
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>>124032867
>50skl/25bt
>ever worth it
the reason why you don't do this is because at that point your skill weapons will vastly outdamage your chikage/bloodletter, and your guns will do mediocre damage as well
50bt or just enough for reiter/riflespear is the only way to invest in bt
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>>124034396
>vastly
You're being a drama queen. The difference is like 80 damage with equal gems.
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>>124034193
the whole point of non-projectile bloodtinge weapons is damage though
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>>124033231
Pictures, anon?
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>>124033701
>wahhhh people who aren't as good as the game as me get money and have fun playing and people support this

Fucking get over yourself, none of the streamers claim to be the best, it's just fucking entertainment. You're idea and self imposed rule that you have to be the best to be making money streaming is either autistic or born of jealousy, either way stay mad.
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>>124034527
pretty sure that's wrong as fuck m9, so show me your work as each gem would increase the value of the scaling from 25>50 as the chikage and bloodletter are both S
80ar=/=80 damage either
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>>124032012
>steal your levels
Sorry for the late reply, but it's entirely possible to steal levels in the middle of fighting someone. Sorry for the shitty webm, it was literally my first. There are a couple of ways to do it, but the easiest involves knocking the person into a wall and soulsucking as they get up.

Acid Cloud spam is very much a threat, especially when combined with Stormruler or any other fast, spammable source of knockdown. Or just Firestorm, which also knocks down. "Cloudruler"/"stormcloud" is a notable combo.

Normal poison in DaS2 deals a set amount of damage. DoTs in Demon's Souls can vary in intensity from 1 per second to over DaS2 levels.

The guaranteed knockdowns in DaS1/2 cannot be poised, iirc.

And don't talk spellswapping with DeS, nothing in DaS1 tops running Firestorm for spellswaps.
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post hunters
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how does a pure arcane user get through the not only the DLC to get ayy lmao mode but also chalice dungeons to gem up parasite of kos? i'm a level 80 ayy lmao right now, but i have 18 str and 12 skill to use the pizza cutter, and now i am sad i used those skill points. i'd like to remake and do an all arcane character but fuck i don't know if it's possible.
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>>124038372
A pure arc character is essentially just a saw cleaver/threaded cane character for most of the game. You take one of the fire gems you get super early and turn your weapon elemental so your arcane scaling actually matters, then you just kill everything with that weapon until you get actual arcane shit.

The down side is you'll be forced to waste chunks on a holdover weapon just to get the parasite, but a fire saw cleaver really is good enough on its own to carry you through the game to the parasite.
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>>124038372
Improve.
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>>124038372
Cleared out all the chalices and beat OoK at bl66 with a 40vit/40arc build. Once you get your fire saw spear and executioner's gloves it honestly isn't too terrible, and you can summon for help on the harder chalice stuff. Arc also wrecks defiled amy.
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>>124038631
>waste chunks on a holdover weapon
Threaded Cane is a fine weapon for an arcane build to use, just pop that arcane gem from beneath the clinic and you're set.
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Anybody figure out a way to make beast claws decent? I find the defense penalty too harsh I eventually get 1 shot and it's unrealistic to assume you will never get hit
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