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Previous >>123957006

>[Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnouji event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20151125.php
November 25 19:00 to ??? (December 11 13:59) JST
- Nobunaga is a free 4* event servant
- Ascension items are skulls from the shop (Check stock!)
- Milestone ladder awards extra Nubunaga copies:http://pastebin.com/vx4ydHd4 (embed)
- Use promo servants (see link) to gain more points

- The first Nobu copy you get is temporary, at 100k points it BECOMES PERMAMENT and keeps the exp you gave her
- Copies after that are for NP upgrade

>Farming guide
- 10 AP until you get all you want from that, basically skull and 5* CE
- Then 20 AP until you get skull, 5* CE and all ascensions mats you want
- Then 30 AP if you don't have medusa ce or/and need bowls (gives a mix of bowls and spiders)
- Or 40 AP if you have medusa ce
- 30 AP on average gives 2k hp, 40 AP on average gives around 3k hp

>[Honnouji limited event gatcha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for:
- 5* Okita souji (will be gone after event)
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Lancer cu and Mephistopheles
- 5* Gudaguda poster girl
- 4* Launch order!
- 3* Fate gudaguda order

>Patch notes:
See >>123955664 (Cross-thread)

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2 (embed)
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA (embed)

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk (embed)

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#
Toaster version:
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T (embed)

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/
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xth for (embed) (embed)
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Xth for unwanted.
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I'm gonna marry that clown.
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>>124003271
4th for idol activities!
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EVIL WITCH
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>Kiyohime hijacks Christmas
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>>124002934
>>124002934
he's a hungry slut
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My Captain is really dreamy and charismatic!
Best everything.
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Carmilla is best Liz
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is there a man more objectively wonderful than this?
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How likely are crossover Servants?
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>>124004051
I want an Eiyuu Senki crossover.
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>>124004051
Ryukishi07 crossover servants WHEN?
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>>124004250
>even bigger hack than Nasu
STOP
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>>124004051
Symphogay servants when? there is one for every class.
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>>124003736
I'd like that.

Clown is the only one confirmed to appear on the Christmas event, maybe he'll be Santa. He can deliver bombs to everyone.
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>Roll Jeanne saturday
>get a ticket with prisms
>roll this

Who the fuck is this good on other than Nigfried?
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>>124004250
>R07 says that Tsukihime got him into writing

He's a cool guy.
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>>124003736
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>>124004451
jannu
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>>124004369
>Symphoshit
Went in, watched all 3 Seasons, ended up disappointed

>HURR THIS ONE IS SPECIAL FOR COMBAT, STRONGEST OF ALL
>Beaten by the 2 weakest
Literally worse than Fate asspulls
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>>124004451
D'eon
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>>124004451
Jeanne you idiot
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>>124004451
Cu
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>>124004328
>Not wanting Beato Caster
>Not wanting Berserker Rudolf/Kyrie
>Not wanting Assassin Eva

Witches would be OP as fuck if summoned.
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>Q: What is this game about?
>(under construction)

I swear, you guys have brain damage. It takes 3 seconds to write a sentence about the game and it's the defacto question somebody reading an FAQ wants answered.

I noticed it's in moonspeak though, so nevermind, but somebody in the future is going to want that information, just sort it out.
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>>124004709
A: It's about shitposting on /fgog/
Here I hope you're happy
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>>124004610
>>124004581
>>124004581
But I have Kotomine or PROJECTING for her

>>124004609
I don't have that.

>>124004648
Oh
OH
Will do senpai
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xth for best archer
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>>124004709
>lets whine about others without making any effort myself
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Who Cheat APK master race here?
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>>124004675
what about Blood Blockade Battlefront?

>lancer zed
>saber zapp
>rider gilbert
>klaus can be whatever the hell he wants
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>>124004709
why don't you write it yourself if you're this autistic about it
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Every thread until Astolfo
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>>124003271
>embed
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>>124005110
>>124004794
I've never played the game, I came here trying to find out what it was, naively thought the FAQ would have that info, then posted here.

If I did play the game then I'd have bitched to fix the FAQ already. It takes not even a minute of your time, just grunt out Genre | 1 unique thing about it | any game event remotely similar, as a comparison. It'll be helpful for Anons in the future.
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>>124005594
It's hard to describe this game anon. The best thing I can think of is "hell simulator".
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>>124004159
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>>124005723

>generic shit
i play fate to get away from that crap
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>>124005723
What's with the massive foot on Nobu's crotch?
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>>124005723
At least both Kojiros are cool
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>>124005594
why don't you just say you're new and ask what it's about instead of starting off by saying everyone has brain damage
do you have problems with social interactions?
are you perhaps actually autistic?
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>>124005845
cameltoe
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>>124005723
Why are literally all of them generic females?
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>>124006089
plea$e under$tand
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>>124006089
Same reason all Takeuchi characters are saberfaces.

That's the only thing the artist draws.
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>>124006089
Because it's literally a nukige
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I regret nothing
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So why does /fgog/ pretend to hate /a/, all you faggots originated from there anyway. There is literally no one that plays F/GO that doesn't browse /a/.
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>>124006303
Nice sweeping generalization, faggot.
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cute
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>>124006418
Lancelot lily?
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>>124006303
Same reason foe the reddit boogeyman meme.
Sheeple need their witch hunts.
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>>124006290
Artemis is cute
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>>124006290
that fucking face
: - D
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>>124006303
because even /a/ hates /a/
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>>124006303

Funny thing, i actually stopped going to /a/ ever since this general was created, no real reason behind it, i just like you guys better.
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>>124006303
I don't browse /a/. I came here from reddit.
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>>124006518
She has the best kek faces
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180 quartz later. Still no Okita. Nice droprates.
I wanna kill myself.
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>>124006745
Okita is a rare drop from the current 40 AP quest, you should have used that to refill
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>>124006303
Just because you're a faggot from /a/ doesn't mean everybody is
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>>124006820
I'm level 24. There is no chance i could even complete the 40ap quest.
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>>124006924
>what is cheatapk
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>>124007010
>What is not being a faggot
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>>124007010
I don't even know what it is or how i could get it.
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>>124006303
I don't really hate /a/ it just doesn't cater to my taste as much anymore The only board I hate is /u/ that thing became a cesspool over the years
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>>124006303
I'm from /a/, /m/ and lastly /int/
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>>124006924
What
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>>124006924
A level 90 jannu or level 80 carmillia can solo it basically.
I went from level 31 to 52 from this event and using other peoples support carries.
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>>124006610
Same here. Glad I did, /a/ is just insufferable when it comes to anything remotely popular.
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>>124007154
Read the faq you retard.
Learn to think and act for yourself instead of complaining about not being able to do it
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>>124006820
Wait what? That can't be true
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>>124007391
You're not very smart are you?
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>>124007391
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UNRIVALED
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Today is a wonderful day and it feels great to be alive.
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>>124006303
I'm from /b/ and /pol/ mostly. /a/ has too many weebs who like creepy pedo anime. I only like good stuff like dbz, fate/zero and kill la kill.
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>>124008360
>/pol/
>good stuff like dbz, fate/zero and kill la kill
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>>124008360
Topest kek, anon. Thanks for the laugh.
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>>124008441
>responding to bait
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>>124008360
Fuck off
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>>124008360
Which one do you like the most: Lancelot or Heracles?
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>>124008804
Lancelot is way more badass but I like gil the most.

>>124008637
>>124008558
Spotted the pedo weebs :^)
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>>124008998
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LITERALLY FUCKING WHEN
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>>124009216
>boatshit

no thanks
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>>124009216
Hopefully never
Just because your boatgame is becoming shitter and shitter doesn't mean you need to go plague other games
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>>124005723
>>124004159
Siegfried is the only one that i prefer the Eiyuu Senki version over Fate.
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>>124009216
>>124004051
It has already invaded TM. It's only a matter of time.
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>>124009370
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>>124009370
Gudako pls
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>>124009370
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hi guys how do I stop people from telling me to fuck off every time I ask a question about the game? thanks in advance
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>>124009623
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shitfried
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>>124009756
To read the op
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fuck off
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>>124009216
>they add kanmusus as servants
>every single one of them is archer
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you forgot to quote
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>>124009216
Right after pic related comes out.
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I want to go on a date with Diarmuid!
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Neat.

I'm at 390% now with this new Gudao. Still 320% for the dailies.
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I wish I could drop my whole team and take only supports.
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You all realize that the only collabs we'll ever get is with other aniplex stuff right? Like monogatari or whatever show they want to promote in a season
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You do realize there is a quote function right? I mean it's literally RIGHT there
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>>124006418
I'd fuck lancelot
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>>124009216
Yamato wasn't a person.
I don't think TM has sunk so low that it starts considering weapons and objects as Servants.
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>>124006303
/m/an here, almost never step into /a/ (once every 3 months or so).
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Why? Do you not have a servant you love and want to max every skill on them? Not having your own team would be dumb.
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Are you fucking retarded? That's irrelevant.
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It's always relevant you fucking twat
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It's that time of the year.
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>>124010306
I'd be down with Monogatari stuff too, although its too far out for me. Saber Shinobu, Berserker Kanbaru, or Assassin Ononoki would be cool.
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>>124010472
What is Nursery Rhyme.
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>>124006303
Long ago I stopped visiting /a/. Too much newfaggotry and shitposting.
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>>124010472
Literally a picture book.
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>>124006232
Takeuchi does it because it caters to Takeuchi's fetish. Its not about money with that guy, but rather obsession.

Q: Why do you like drawing Saber-faces so much?
>Nasu: I'd like to know that too.
>Takeuchi: Huh, what's with this atmosphere? You're making me seem like I'm a weirdo, like I'm a perverse dude or something.
>Nasu: You've been doing this for over 10 years; you're plenty perverse. "Doing what you set out to do" is a handy expression, isn't it.
>Takeuchi: Oh man, I just got told by the guy who's still adding stuff to the Fate canon even as he keeps saying he "doesn't wanna"...

How did you come to make the decision of creating Fate?

>Nasu: Fate was originally a story I wrote when I was in college. In it the gender of Saber and Shirou were opposite to now, but the essential theme had not been changed, it's the story about legendary heroes and "a boy meets a girl."

>Takeuchi: I created it because I just liked it, and I wanted to make something like Tsukihime, but more sophisticated. I changed the character's gender, in order to have them fit in with the gamers today.

>Nasu: Well, I remember one of the reason it was changed was because he made the request to let him draw a girl with armor. Finally it came true. XD
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>>124010306
I don't think Monogatari is well-suited for a crossover with Fate. Shinobu would pretty much be the only Servant-level character. I remember reading Nisio dislikes crossovers, though.

Saber or Berserker Shinobu would be quite nice.
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>>124010713
Please don't. Its really gay, but that artists draws him so pretty. I'm trying to not be gay here, anon.
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>>124010472
>I don't think TM has sunk so low that it starts considering weapons and objects
I'm not seeing the problem
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>>124010921
She's not literally a picture book

She's a reality marble created out of the dreams of little girls, who all liked a picture book.

Read the lore more, she's more like peoples thoughts given form over a few centuries.
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>>124010306
So Madoka in the future?
I want a saber Sayaka. I need a Saber.
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>>124010978
Wait are Ship Girls servant level now?
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>>124010978
Well I don't think so either but I just used it as an example for other aniplex properties
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>>124010947
>XD

Nasu, please.
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>>124010921
Read Extra.
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>>124005723
>iskander
why
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>>124010306
>Monogatari
That is literally the only thing that would stop me from playing this game at this point
Hopefully it happens
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>>124011141
>>124011283
Replace a picture book for a Japanese warship and little girls for seamen and you got the same shit.
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>>124010978
Cat, crab, monkey and snake could be used as well. Specially snake goddess. Monkey is pretty much zerker, snake looks quite the caster to me. Crab could be assassin, cat maybe rider (because the tiger thing).
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>>124011157
Fuck off uroshitter, Madoka is garbage.
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>>124011378
You said the opposite of what you were just called out on, as though you weren't called out on it at all when you were wrong.

Alice isn't the book itself in a sense, rather she's a reality marble created from the dreams of girls who read the book over centuries, and worshipped it in a sense.

Its not like she's a fictional "object" given life at all. She is something intangible given life, she is a dream of people created through worship.
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I want a saber face mami
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>>124011141
>>124011568
How many girls am I fucking when I stick my dick in her?
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>Nasu: For tradition protection, if an attack does not follow specific rules it will not connect. This is possessed by Alice Kuonji's Ploy Kickshaw, for example. Basically, it's not an actual defense, per se, but something with restrictive conditions. Anti-purge defense is something we'll be talking about in more detail soon, so please wait just a bit longer on that one. For now, I can simply say that it is an ultimate defense against a level of attack that could even end the world.

>Takeuchi: That term came about around the same time as the Panzer World Galient OVA ...did you really like the term that much?

>Nasu: Enough to make it the most ultimate defense ever.

------

>Saber's so cutely drawn that many are asking: Is this Saber's route? Was this Mr. Takeuchi's idea, given that she's his absolute favorite? <Yuma>
>Takeuchi Oh no, Saber is definitely cute, but aren't Rin, Sakura, and Fuji-nee just as cute?
>Nasu Don't forget about the trio.
>Takeuchi Having passed the 「Fate/Zero」 animation adaptation, my understanding of the characters and the world has gotten much deeper, but there's also a feeling of love on top of that. For an author, there's nothing greater than seeing your characters being loved.
>Nasu Of course. It's just like a father wishing for his daughter's happiness.
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>>124011141
That's pretty much a happy version of Jack, now that I think about it.
I wonder what'll happen if they meet.
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>>124011568
The source is still an object though, if they want to they can make a servant out of anything, even out of thin air and rumors like REGEND.
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Whenever I start a mission my Emiya gets targeted and dies first. And no he doens't have a taunt ce.
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>>124011762
Hundreds, thousands maybe?
Are you really such a devious person to stick a dick in little girls' hopes and dreams?
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>>124011762
Well, she's little girls thoughts given life, not the girls themselves.

So I'd say about one, give or take. Maybe two, since she takes on the form of her master technically.
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>>124010063
>Not berseker Yuudachi
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cause EMIYA has shit luck
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>>124011975
Yuudachi is an Assassin.
Killing everyone when they have their guard down on account of the white flag.
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>>124011790
And suddenly, Galient out of nowhere. You're impressing me, Takeuchi
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>>124011908
Its not an object given life though, its the belief or worship of an object, dreams, given life.

Its intrinsically different, because the thing that's actually being given life does already have a basis within life, its peoples thoughts.

Just think of it as a very small divine spirit.
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Choose /fgog/
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>>124012489
Sakura

>>124012359
Also a lot of servants are technically the same thing already.

They didn't originally exist, they are given life through belief.
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>>124012109
But the Americans keep firing at it.
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>>124012359
Shipgirls are similar to that too, girls with the "souls" of past warships.
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>>124012489
Ilya
least shit
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>>124012489
Ilya. Second would be Rider.
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>>124003987
SIEGFRIED
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>>124012489
Bottom row > top row
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>>124012489
Medusa > Medea >Sakura > Illya > Arturia > Shit > Rin
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>>124012489
Of those? I'll take Sakura's.
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>>124012191
PICTURES IN YOUR MIND WILL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO
LISTEN TO THE VOICE FROM NOWHERE SAYIN' TO YOU
MY SON
MY WORLD
WILL SOON REVIVE
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>>124012489
Medea>Medusa>Arturia>Illya>Rin>Sakura
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>>124012489
Saber, because she's a 5* servant and I can roll the others easier.
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>>124012670
>>124012683
>le suffering loli
Off yourselves
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>>124011141
>This is a book
She will have a unique animation right?
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Did anyone ever figure out if the Iri on the datamined Servant list was supposed to be Irisviel or someone else?
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>>124012631
Something born of the modern day can't be so much given life through belief. People are too jaded or something, they're not superstitious at all, they don't believe in things.

It was easier or at least possible to do a century or two back for certain reasons. It would be pretty damn impossible for even Alice to be given life in a sense, if not for the fact that it was basically the most famous fairy tail in existence. Meaning its a book that's shared and felt throughout the world, so its impact is nothing small. Thus the dreams that made it up, were nothing minuscule. Although even at that level she's still basically an E rank servant, or D rank.

For the belief in something to create a life, it has to be a pretty damn famous thing.
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>>124013130
>suffering
She just needs a little heart-to-heart, is all.
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>>124013209
It's iri since her seiyuu is credited
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>>124013294
That's pretty heartless.
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>>124013367
Hope it's Avenger Iri then seeing as she wasn't listed as a Pseudo-Servant.
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>>124012489
Sakura> Medea > Caren > Rin > Medusa > Saber > Illya > Bazett
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i can already feel a waifu war cumming
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>>124013294
You're a bad person and I hope you feel bad.
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How do you use apples?
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>>124013613
nigger it's already here
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>>124013679
1) Open mouth
2) Put apple in mouth
3) Munch apple
4) Rinse and repeat
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you eat them
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>>124013679
they're generally used for eating and cooking
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I wonder if Kintoki's waifu is going to be nerfed as a Servant like Tamamo.
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>>124013613
I've got more lore and shit interviews.

>Q: For Berserker's Noble Phantasm "God Hand," it says that he'll gain resistance to any attack he's been dealt, but does it require for him to "die" for this to happen? Would the same attack work multiple times so long as he doesn't die from it?
>Nasu: There's no need for him to die. It's something like...for example, if he is damaged by flames, after his wounds heal he'd gain +100 fire resistance or so.
>Takeuchi: Hey, seems like it's been toned-down. Wouldn't it have rendered flames completely ineffective before?
>Nasu: I said it wouldn't work, not that it would become completely ineffective.
>BB: "I nullify all attacks, and Mr. Macho there triples his defense! How are these two any different?!"
>Herakles: "(I'm not hacking the system like you are!)"
>Takeuchi: Either way, it's a pretty broken skill.

>When will I get a route? -Illya
>Nasu: "You already have one, it's Prisma Illya."
>Takeuchi: "Are you sure it's okay to say that?"
>Nasu: "Of course, if I can't do something myself somebody
>else will do it for me, aren't humans amazing?"


>Q: What does the minus sign mean on stat sheets? I've been wondering about this for years, and it's starting to cause my head to go bald so an answer would be greatly appreciated.

>Nasu: Oh dear. The minus sign is basically for when something qualified for a B in terms of rank, but is not quite a B-rank in terms of power, closer to C-rank, even. Think of it as a number that isn't quite reliably stable. And do take care of your hair.

>Takeuchi: So it's kind of like how your pace of writing output starts getting shaky when video game you're hyping is around the corner.

>Nasu: Thank you for the all too illuminating example. Do
take care of your mushroom.
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>>124013679
Here
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>>124013775
Do you put the whole apple in your mouth?
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>>124013213
>E rank servant
Just her stats are that low, as a servant in general she was probably one of the strongest in Extra.
Jabberwocky, the ability to erase you from existence, time reset and an army of cards are all great abilities on par of most A servants.

>>124013158
She has potential, but she will most likely end up as a 3* with generic caster animation, even as a 4* I don't expect DW to give her unique animation despite her potential.
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>>124013679
First wash it, then you can peel it or slice it, put in your mouth and munch it. Evil cat-chan gives you an example.
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>>124013983
Only if her Master is a unbound soul who doesn't mind fading away to keep up the cost of all that.
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>>124013627
Sorry to dash your hopes anon.
But I'm sure playing this game already destroyed all hope anyway.
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>>>The CG of the main characters have already been released, are they the same ones from the original work?

>Takeuchi: The reason we released the CG for Tsukihime is to let the fans once again experience the feeling of Tsukihime. The actual game CG will be completely redrawn; there may even be characters with modified designs.

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>>In the film version of Kara no Kyoukai, Touko's design was also changed drastically, will it be the same for Tsukihime?

>Takeuchi: There shouldn't be any change of that magnitude. The manga version of Melty Blood and Tsukihime are still being serialized, and they are all related. Also, many like the current design, so I can't make any more design decisions by myself like with Touko. If there is going to be change, it will be on the level of clothe and hairstyle. It would be great if we can achieve the level of upgrade as Rebuild of Evangelion (laughs).

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>>Tsukihime has been adapted into many other media such as anime and manga, those who will play it are probably fans of TYPE-MOON. This should be wonderful news for this group of people?

>Takeuchi: The original doujin game is something that is very hard to come by nowadays, so we feel bad for not releasing a remake for those who have always wanted to try out this game. If one wants to know the content of the story, one can go read the manga Shingetsutan Tsukihime. The manga version is a pictorial representation of Nasu's work. The excellence of the Tsukihime manga has also become a great challenge that we need to surpass for the Tsukihime remake (laughs). We hope to create a game that can be enjoyed differently than the manga version.
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>>124005135
I want to fuck Astolfo until his ass is bleeding
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>>124013967
Only if you feel like a gambler.
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>>124014000
Put it in your mouth and feed it to Atalanta
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>not putting spices on your apples
what is even the point
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>>124013983
>She is a book
That is why i was wondering, will they really give a book the default caster animation?
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>>124013941
>Takeuchi banter
Nice.
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>>124014243
I would put something else in Atalanta's mouth.
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>>124014140
>Only if her Master is a unbound soul who doesn't mind fading away to keep up the cost of all that

No, don't be stupid.

The fact that Alice's soul was unbound, was the reason that even a non-magus like Alice could use her servant's abilities fully, despite not knowing magecraft at all. She needed the edge of being able to erode her soul, to be able to use her own servant's shit, but an actual magus would be able to employ it just fine generally.

If you're a decent or high tier magus, you can do this shit easier than Alice for sure.

Alice wasn't a magus, that's why she needed something special like that going on. Its not "Only if you a soul can you use this servant" or something stupid like that.
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I wonder if we'll get any of the Servants mentioned in the FGO Ace like Nero's mom.
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>>124013953
Thank you Anon
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mother teresa when?
I want an even healthier cake
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>>124014429
At the pace we're going, maybe in 2018.
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>>124014243
How about the other way around?
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>>>Aoko appeared in both Tsukihime and Melty Blood, does this mean those games take place in the same world?

>Takeuchi: Of course they share the same worldview, but it's better to view them as different stories. For example, the Kohaku from Tsukihime and the Kohaku from Melty Blood feel like totally different people (laughs). The Aoko-sensei everyone is familiar with will also be a totally different person. Tsukihime's Aoko-sensei is an accomplished magus, in Mahoutsukai no Yoru she is still an inexperienced mage still growing up. Fans who knew her from other works will be surprised: "So this is how the old Aoko-sensei is like!"

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>>What expectation does Mr. Nasu have for TYPE-MOON's works?

>Takeuchi: Nasu has many ideas, and to me they're all "entertainment and service." Great background settings and strong stories, there is no meaning if it can't entertain its audience. Creating work not to satisfy himself, but to satisfy others. However, an author diminishing his or her own personality to please the players is also meaningless. There are also many works where without getting the details, people find the overall work interesting. Seeing the ending of the film version of Neon Genesis Evangelion, most probably didn't really understand it. "What is this and what just happened!?" but it was fun to watch. The atmosphere created by the overall work has already conquered all. I feel this title has similar temperament. Entertainment and service is my own opinion, I really hope it will become a work with elements I never thought of.
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>>124014140
Her master needed to fade away because she wasn't a mage, masters like Rin or Illyas would have no problem.
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How would you train the evil cat to stop being evil?
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i caved in and bought gems... 450 of them

AND I REFUNDED ALL OF THEM :3
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How would you use the quote function?
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>>124013941
>Nasu: Thank you for the all too illuminating example. Do take care of your mushroom.
I'm sure he takes care of his mushroom every day while drawing more saber pics
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>>124014285
Making her a summoner would be a great idea since each attack could be a different Wonderland character, they could also use the Jabberwocky as only hitter. But As good as it would be, DW will not take so much effort unless she is five, in which case no one expect whales will be able to roll her.
>>
>What is the role of the eyeball that appears in Blood Fort Andromeda? Is it the Backbeard's? <Aisaka Riku>

>Nasu: Everyone forgets this, but that is Medusa's eyeball. It seals other people within oneself, hence why it's called Blood Fort Andromeda [Outer-Seal, Blood Temple]. The entire school building has been pulled into the eyeball of a monster.

>Takeuchi: Like a Conceptual Barrier? If it goes too far, won't it turn into the Shapeless Island?

>Nasu : Oui, Monsieur. The devil's den that Perseus escaped is invoked by Shinji, it is meant to be ironic.

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>Rider invoked Blood Fort Andromeda despite Sakura being in the school. If the barrier was sustained, would Rider have went to save Sakura even if it meant disobeying Wakame [Seaweed, Shinji's nickname]? <Teacher Blossom>

>Takeuchi: I'm actually wondering about that too.

>Nasu: I hate to be mean, but Sakura has enough magical energy such that she would only be in a coma. To Rider that's not a problem, which is why it was done in secret from Sakura. Had she talked to Sakura instead, it would have become much more chaotic like "stop her brother → her brother becomes more of a Wakame."

Would be interesting to see Shinji go even more Wakame after Sakura stops him

How much of a wakame can he really be?
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Horseshoes pls go
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How would you feel if this guy became a Servant?
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>>124014925
did you get okita?
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>>124015226
>not liking 30 spiders in a single drop
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>>124015253
burn him
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>>124014875
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>>124015448
I've never needed to spend horseshoes on anything in the first place. That's spiders I could use towards hearts or gears.
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>>124014949
Love and petting!
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>>124015556
>hearts
Just wait until the caster 40AP quest then.
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>>The 「UBW」 anime was created with a pretty tight arrangement alongside ufotable. How exactly did that come about? Also, as there were various original scenes in the anime, who was the one who came up with the ideas? <Rio>

>Nasu: Explaining even only the details regarding that arrangement would take up this entire interview, so I can't discuss it here. The original scenes were scenes proposed by the director. He would let us know where he wanted a new scene, and I would make it.

>Takeuchi: The additional episode in the 2nd season was brutal... they wanted a 5 minute scene added, and this guy writes and submits a scene big enough to fill a whole episode!

>Nasu: Blame the people who gave it to me.

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>In the anime, there is a fight scene between Rin and Ilya, but are there any mages who could even win against Ilya in a magecraft fight in the actual 「Fate/stay night」, 「Fate/Zero」, or 「Fate/hollow ataraxia」 games? <ukw>

>Nasu: Frankly, she is the top mage in Fuyuki. Still, first-class mages would follow the "since she's a child of nature, just cut her off from the land first" plan, so it's not like she's invincible. Kayneth and Tokiomi could give her a run for her money. Rin is just relentless. But if we're talking about the dark girl who contaminates the land itself...

>Takeuchi: ...Sakura's magecraft skills are really fit for a boss, aren't they.
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>>124015540
But that would just make her wet
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>>124015651
I pet evil cats puss with MUH dick
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>>124015803
But do you do it with love?
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>>124011102
It's okay, he has a skill that charms men and women
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>>124015749
That's how you tame cats man.
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This is fucking bullshit. It's the fourth goddamn CE EXP I've gotten in this event.
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>>124015253
feed him to jannu or jannu alter
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>>124015921
No. I do it until she stops being evil. And then snuggle with my waifu after.
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Can a zero secondary who only understands the series superficially really think they know more compared to people who got into this world since 2006?
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>>124016032
You'll know when you get the CE. You'll see the gold chest drop and a little circle will shine around it for a split second.
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>>124016219
Who?
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>>124016219
Can they? Yes, it happens all the fucking time. This is the reason we generally hate secondaries.
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>>124016128
Then she will never stop being evil
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>>124016219
twitter posts should be autoban
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>>124016219
Personally my favorite is getting someone who didn't even like UBW to review UBW. Listening to her talk about Shirou like that was fucking infuriating. Just thinking about it is enough to make me sick to my stomach.
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>>124016404
Except Ueda Kana's tweets.
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>>124016219
Weren't you here during those last few days?
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>>124014641
Feed it to Atalanta and out in your mouth?
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>>124016219
>>124016368
>>124016474
ITT: UBWFags cry and bitch about others opinions. What next? You guys gunnar bitch at the fact that Rin is a shitty heroine?
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>>124016768
You need to be more subtle to bait people, anon.
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Kiyohime vs Redman apple pie cookoff when?
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>>124016768
I dont give a shit that she doesn't like UBW, I give a shit that she doesn't like Shirou.
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I hate Siegfried
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>>124015374
yes

after 55 rolls
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>>124016536
Only Ueda
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>>124012489
Rin>Caster>Medea>illya>shit>saber>whatever is worse than shit>Sakura
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>>124016219
>albatross
The fuck does this secondary know about Rime of the Ancient Mariner?
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>>124016861
>Kiyohime vs Emiya vs Tamamo vs Nero vs Gilgamesh vs Gawain cookoff
Who would win?
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>>124015718
>Takeuchi: The additional episode in the 2nd season was brutal... they wanted a 5 minute scene added, and this guy writes and submits a scene big enough to fill a whole episode!
>Nasu: Blame the people who gave it to me.
I love this guy, he gets so easily excited.
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>>124016861
Kiyohime Hijacking Christmas, Valentine's day, easter day and more events when?
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>>124017134
Gawain by knockout.
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>>124017134
If IP triggers UMU, if it doesn't the redman.
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Post rare chibis that aren't shitfried
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>>124017346
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>>124017152
>easter day
Does Japan even have that?
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>>124017346
Totally not siegfried.
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Reminder to feed worst assassin semen demon all the mans.
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>>124017346
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>>124016931
But anon, he love you so much
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>>124017134
Gil beats Archer in a hollow drama CD.
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Best Servants to pair Mashu with?
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>>124017346
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>>124017551
You
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>>124017551
Me.
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>>124017551
Me
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>>124016871
To be fair. I didn't give a shit about Shirou until heavens feel. Reading UBW just didn't peak my interest that well.
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>>124017476
>I will never roll Stheno
Fuck I just want the three sisters ;_;
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>>124017346
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>>124016219
That's what zero secondaries do for a living. Sorry for the dank picture, but related.
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>>124017639
>>124017641
>Counter Guardian ANON
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>>124017649
>tfw I rolled 120 quartz between Okeanos and now and still no Euryale.
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>>124017346
soon.
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>>124017802
Why is Euryale so rare?
I rolled thousands of FP gacha when she came out and only got one.
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>>124017346
Tank
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>>124017762
I never got how they paint her as a strong female in Zero, everyone just takes their turn shitting on her.
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>>124016536
>>124017043
>mfw Kadowaki rolled Emiya but Ueda is still waiting

You know what would be even better? If Ueda rolls what Kadowaki wants: Heracles.
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>>124017974
I rolled 100k FP and didn't get any.
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>>124017134
A cooking spin-off where servants cook meals from their country.

Would you watch it?
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>>124017832
5* Sieg will be better than Siegfriend
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Who /BerserkEvil/ here

>no tail
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>>124018219
I'm okay with this as long as he looks the same as Siegfried by his last ascension. I just really like his design.
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>>124018219
The fucker is not satisfied with just ruining apocrypha.
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>>124018020
I find her strong in either one. In Stay Night she spends her route telling Shirou's scrub ass to shut the fuck up about doing the fighting for her, until they come to a mutual understanding. I'd say she's better in that than in Zero because of what you mentioned. Edgelord Supreme Urobutcher spends the entire time wanking Iskander and shitting on Arturia for being a self-sacrificing, incredibly distant ruler.

She also does a shit of a lot more in the original series, too.
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>>124017974
I got my only 2 from quartz rolls, and I have the FP CE so I roll the FP gacha plenty. It would be interesting to see the actual rates within the FP 3* servant bracket. Boudica and the likes seem 10x more common than servants like Cu.
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>>124017346
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>>124018086
Didn't she get him as her free 4*?
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>>124018342
WHEN?
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>>124017974
>>124018105

I got her with quartz, i got her with FP, hell, i might even got her as a login bonus.
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>>124018404
Sieg is literally Siegfried appearance-wise while using his transformation seals I thought
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What would happen if you put all the saberface and EMIYA in the same room?
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>>124018515
Keiki is my waifu.
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>>124018086
>>124018535
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>>124018475
Butcher wanking Iskandar as if the fucker knew two shits about ruling was ridiculous
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>>124018698
They all get fucked.
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>>124018342
>>no tail
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>>124018720
Oh I missed that.
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>>124018621
He is, it's that I'm assuming his ascensions would go
>pre-heart transplant Sieg
>post-heart transplant Sieg
>Sieg transformed into Siegfried
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>>124018698
Devil Saber would destroy them all.
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>>124018720
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Every thread until Christmas
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>>124018582
>150k FP
David NP is level 5
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>>124018974
That would be less stupid, but the fact that he is probably going to be better still hurts me...Buffs when?
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>>124019178
Semi-servant when?
>>
Nobu
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>>124019178
SOON
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efdN69QscAg
>>
How many exp cards must they drop before I get a Gudao CE?
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>>124018974
So Sieg would be the 5* Siegfried
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>>124019486
Nice just got my 4th Gudao CE to drop
>>
Got a few interviews from Sakura's VA as well.

>Q: Sakura's dark history is one of her highlights, to be certain. What did you think when it was finally explained to you?

A: It was probably about the same for people who played through the original game. I hadn't even begun to imagine it. I said "Eh!?" and my mouth gaped open. After that, I realized what a strong girl she really was. She kept going and endured, and that she had to maintain that. It was deeply moving to imagine that. That's why when she went dark I had no hesitation performing the role. (laughs) I absolutely sympathized with her, that's why it wasn't difficult to switch over to her dark side. I really enjoyed playing the part. (laughs)

>Q: What was your impression of Rider (Sakura's Servant)?

A: When we first started recording, I thought she was cold-blooded. I also thought she was scary. In reality she turned out to be Sakura's most stalwart and dedicated
supporter. Now I think of her as an elder sister. Rider didn't have anyone to rely on; instead she desperately tried to protect her own world. Rider has a big presence.
I'm not jealous that I didn't have an awesome Servant of the opposite sex the way that Emiya and Rin did (lol).

>Q: If you could treat a male character from Fate to your homemade udon, would it be Archer?

A: My favorite is Emiya. When I am asked this question, my answer is always Emiya, and it often prompts a startled response. I don't get why he isn't more popular with
the ladies. Some of the other characters are more manly and they have that working for them, but when I play Sakura I can't be separated from Emiya. He's amazingly kind to both men and women. I think people like that are wonderful. Earlier I said Archer, but you know he's really that (lol). There can't be a love affair with him. Didn't Emiya become pretty manly in the original game? That's how it looked to my eyes. (lol)
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>>124019671
Haha nice I don't even have 1 yet ;_;
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>>124019704
>Q: If it were up to you, which Servant would you choose?

A: I'd choose Archer. I really liked his back in the original story. There were lots of fanservicey cuts of him from behind. I knew from his appearance that I wanted to follow and be protected by him.

>Q: Shitaya-san, what to you is the most attractive feature of Sakura?

A: When she's reliving a happy memory or having a meal with Emiya and Fujimura-sensei, they're talking about trivial stuff while she's thinking about very important things. You sense that for her, an ordinary happiness is a remarkable thing. That's her charming point. Sorry, I teared up there for a moment (wipes eyes). I like her a lot.

>Q: You're saying that instead of making your own food, you'd rather have someone else make food for you?

A: I like it, but making it . . . I went to cooking classrooms, but now my goal is Woman Polishing! When a friend of mine was teaching me how to cook, at first I was really quiet, but then I said I wanted to become a polished woman! That's why I want the food I eat to not look sloppy!
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So whas it ever confirmed who this is
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>tfw you have them all but chuuni archer
Arjuna when?
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>>124020017
Arturia If she never pulled the sword. Lancer class.
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>>124019704
>Shirou>Archer
Fine taste
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>>124018740
That's sort of the point. He knows how to lead an army, not how to rule a country.
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>>124020017
Lancer Altria Alter
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>>124020017
Arturia lancer alter
90% chance shes the big bad of round table stage
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>>124020049
Who is the other nigger there?
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>>124020078
>she never pulled the sword
That is just headcanon
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Which seiyuus play FateGO?

>Guy who voices Arjuna, Gudao
>Ueda/Rin
>Kadowaki/Ilya
>Kotomine Kirei
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>>124020303
Emiya, Arjuna, and Arash Akhbar.
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I guess this is one possible situation that the Heaven's Fall at the end of CCC can lead to.
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>>124020049
>tfw all my favorite characters are Archers

I just want to use all of them in my team ;_;
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>>124020303
Setsuna F.Seiei aka Soran Ibrahim
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>>124020346
It's a fair assumption, though. We know Arturia stopped aging when she got Avalon, and Lancer Arturia Alter is CLEARLY more developed than normal Arturia.
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>>124020346
There is no other explanation though. One thing lead to the other and later her growth was halted and she became eternally young. This is clearly a what If grown up version.
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>>124020017
I wonder if Takeuchi cried when he first saw what they have done to his waifu. Jeanne looks more like Arturia than she does.
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>>124020480
Why would you ever keep one of your favorites at level 1?
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>>124020389
Does Kotomine Kirei spook himself`?
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Maybe
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>>124020389
Nobunaga is a big TMfag. Once he posted a picture on twitter of a room in his house where he had tons of TM merchandise.

Jelly as fuck.
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>>124004051
Dante from the Devil May Cry™ series when?
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>>124020629
He rolled nothing but cu's.
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>>124020480
>But please don't put me on the same team as the King of Heroes

Nigga why are you making EMIYA suffer? You deserve to be egged to death.
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>>124020528
>>124020557
She could be something like Jeanne Alter.
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>>124020713
>does a ten roll
>nothing but 3* shit
>mutters to himself
>YUETSU
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>>124020887
Possible, but Jeanne Alter is sort of a "what if" character like we assume Lancer Arturia Alter is.
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>>124020779
>not bullying EMIYA
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>>124020779
>Emiya with Projection Magic
>Cu with Kotomine
>Gilgamesh with Limited/ Over Zero
Best team
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>>124021050
Jeanne Alter was Gilles' wish so who's wish would Lancer Arthuria Alter be?
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>>124021050
Joan isn't so much "What if", as much as she's Gilles idea of Joan, that has no connection to the real thing. Its not another facet of Joan at all, its Gilles dream rather.

Arthuria Lancer could be the same, in that she's someone's wish version of Arthur.

Like Arthur wishes for a version of herself that never drew the sword, and the grail decides to be a dick, and instead of rewriting history, it just creates that version of herself. Like if her wish was granted from F/SN, except the grail decided to dick her out of it for fun.

Could be Lancelot's wish as well, since he sort of wished for such a thing.
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>>124021151
>>124021202
A-are they sexually bullying EMIYA?
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>>124021334
Arthur's
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>>124020664
i never understood this dumb meme
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>>124021151
>NTR x 2

That's just cruel
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>>124021050
J-Alter is not a what if though. she was create by Gilles with France's Holy Grail.
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>>124021151
10 minutes in paint
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>>124021390
Everyone does that.
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>>124021547
>Foever
Is that supposed to be a pun?
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>>124021565
At her core, it's still "Jeanne who was angry at the world for how it treated her." Yes, she was only like that because of Gilles' twisted delusions, but the "what if?" aspect is still there.
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>Although designated Alter, it does not mean that she is a different side of Jeanne D'Arc. A Jeanne of vengeance, fabricated by the French Army's marshal, Gilles de Rais, who grieved for Jeanne's death.

>Since originally Jeanne is not a hero, but a holy maiden, the possibility of summoning a different side of her is nil. As such, one can think that this Jeanne D'Arc is mostly made up by the prejudice of Gilles de Rais. The dragon witch that resurrected for the sake of getting vengeance against France.

People still think Joan Alter is related to Joan apparently.

Alter in this case, is an entirely new creation, unrelated to the original model. This is just Gilles dream of how Joan should really be.
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>>124021673
It would be better if there was a single tear falling from his eyes;

>>124021737
Why is that the only good doujinshi of her have fucking Gilgamesh;
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>>124021673
If that really took 10 minutes you really need to step up your shit senpai.
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>>124003562
SLEEP IN EMPTINESS, CROOKED CLOWN!
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Gudako vs Shirou

Who would win?
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>>124022368
>Gudako is crazy
>Shirou is a sword
they would fuse and create a new existence.
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>>124020389
>>124022552
>crazy sword
wooooaaaaaaahhhhhhh
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>>124022616
So majin saber?
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>>124022552
>Fuse
Lewd
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>>124017134
Anon
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i want to fuck this
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>>124022552
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>>124023001
>GOLD
So Kintoki is the winner then?
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>>124020389
I can't remember who but an idol/seiyuu bought an android tablet just to play it then cried when she couldn't because of maintenance
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>>124022368
It depends, is Gudako Shirou's daughter?
Or is she her alternative universe genderbend?
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>>124022368
Why would Gudako ever fight papa?
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>>124021334
Morgan. She's probably an npc like Jason was

Bet she'll be a saberface
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>>124023081
>Miyuverse Shirou will look like this
Too fluffy
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>tfw every time I go to level up a CE I have to see my 4 Nero and Dango CEs.
It hurts.
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>>124023392
She'll probably look like Semiramis
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Huh, so this is the power... Of the meme CE.
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>>124023497
>50+ each run
Fuck, thats fast as fuck fous
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>>124023497
You can get Fou whenever you want by doing EXP dailies and burning the EXP. It's a lot easier than getting ascension mats.
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>>124023335
Because Gudako's parents let her in a orphanage at a young age because seigi no mikata stuff.
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>>124023335
does somebody have those two comics post them
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>>124023392
>A saberface being a npc
If Morgan ends up being a Saber face, she will be nothing less than a 5*
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>>124023497
How many CEs is this? Four?
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>>124023693
That sounds pretty AP expensive taking into account every exp card is worth one prism.

>>124023842
Five and support.
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>>124023883
Damn, I only have four myself. Ah well, that's still five if I can find a support with it.
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>>124023431
I know that feel.
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>>124024028
I had like 8 and I accidentally fused them all together now I realize I am lacking bombs fuck.
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>>124023497
>I burned my 6 meme CE's because I thought they were the exp CE's
shit still hurts
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>>124024248
RIP chibis.
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>>124023883
>That sounds pretty AP expensive taking into account every exp card is worth one prism.

Yes, but it can be done at your leisure. Much more easily and in a more rewarding fashion than grinding materials.

And you forget the four prisms you get every day from doing a daily for the first time that day.
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Which team layout is better?
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>>124024531
The one with the servants you like.

Make your own decisions you fucking child.
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>>124024228
How could you accidentally fuse 8 of them in the first place?
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>>124024531
The one with the Extra Rin CE.
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>>124024612
I thought they were shit CE's and I needed space to roll more shit so I thought why the hell not fuse them all together?
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>>124024609
>Not wanting to know what servant layout is more useful
Go eat a dick.
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>>124024531
Second.
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>>124023497
I'm so fucking retarded that I rolled 5 of that CE and fused them right away.

Holy fuck I'm retarded.
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>>124024721
>Not just using the servants you like instead of trying to minmax a game that you can beat all its content with just bronze servants.

End yourself. If you play this game to flaunt around an "overpowered" or "top tier" team then I don't know what to tell you other than you are autistic.
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>>124025083
>>124024248
I am glad I wasn't the only one this retarded in /fgog/
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>>124025083
I max ascended it after getting Gudao and the skull, no regrets
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>>124024609
What if he likes both?
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>>124024531
The first

>>124024609
What is so childish in asking for another opinion in something that he created himself?
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i want to fuck evil cat
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>>124025831
>Bestiality
fuck off
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>>124025364
I don't know why, but I get the feeling that with that team, he doesn't care about having his favorite servants on his team and rather just have the most pub stomp, top tier team. Just a feeling though.

If those are his favorite servants, then I don't know what to say.
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>>124025831
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>>124025957
What does their expressions try to convey?
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>>124025904
He has both Kiyohime and Asterios in the bottom one. that is not exactly top tier.
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>>124025687
>>124024674

> The one without Kiyohime

Roast in bell you two
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>>124026129
Costs
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>>124026119
alter, atlanta or the nipple 's expression?
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when
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>>124026129
Probably because he doesn't have Alter or another top tier 4*, and not enough cost for another 5*. He has to resort to use not so good servants.

The mere fact that the three that he is decided from are berserkers speaks for itself. This guy is a berserkerfag who only care about killing the mobs as fast as possible and sweep through the game. If he had Kintoki or Vlad I'm 100% sure he would use them.
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>>124023392
>>124023392
Doesn't look very Saberface, makes sense since she is only half-sister
Powerlevel wise, how powerful is she?considering she studied under Merlin
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>>124026119
lewds
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>>124026446
The latter one
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I want this so badly.
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How OP would Harry Houdini be as a caster?
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>>124026507
>>124026681
The fuck is this shit about?
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>>124026507
>>124026681
Never
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>>124026507
>>124026681
>wanting more CE
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>>124026507
After Kotomine Lily.
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>>124026268
Kiyohime isn't bad, but the Extra Rin CE is absurdly good on a Berserker sub.
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>>124026681
>>124026859
>>124026880
>>124026974
>implying he wouldn't be a psuedo-servant of Simo Hayha
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>>124026974
>not wanting to put a kerry ce on your saber for the ultimate bullying
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>roll Okita and Emiya on an alt account
>want all the infinity gears for Sakusaber but only have 43 apples and no medusa CE

How are you guys partitioning your apples?
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Chaldea SoL anime when?
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>>124026541
Morgan is kinda of ugly.
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>>124027184
After Berserker house SoL anime
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>>124026541
They can retcon her design if they want to. They retconned Mordred's appearance after the DEEN anime, and Merlin's design (what little of it we saw) from the manga.
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>>124027184
Fate/Grand Working!!
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I need to get my master level higher. I can finally afford a fourth GUDAO, but my team level cap is too low to put it on.
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>>124026507
hopefully never
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>>124027130
>wanting more CE just so you can do your meme fantasy
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>>124027279
Looks like Fate manga, so that's not a surprise.
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>>124027101
Take a look at that card anon, it is a CE.

>>124027140
With just a support Medusa it should just take you 7 apples to buy the 15 gears tha Okita need.
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>>124027407
>and Merlin's design

Merlin is a shapershifter though.
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>>124027324
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>>124027407
What was his design from the manga?
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>>124006659
Shitposting aside, that's some good cosplay.
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>>124026681
So what kind of effect for origin bullet? One time only guaranteed success of effects like death, stun, charm, etc ?
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>>124027324
>>124027849

Damn this was cute
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450,000 points without apples or level ups
This is gonna be easy. Probably finishing at 1,5 million without apples.
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>>124027967
none because bullets don't work on servants
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>>124012489
All are shit, this one is the best and only correct choice >>124006418
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>>124027967
>One time only guaranteed success of effects like death
Thank god most of you are not game designers
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>>124027892
Nothing particularly special.
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>>124028123

Anon..... Kiritsugu mentions having guns that work on servants in Zero.
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>Join Facebook Fgo group to sell accounts
>Sees this
>I apologize to all of /vg/, I have learned my lesson and will never go on facebook.

Truly the niggers of asia.
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>>124027967
4X crit star generation, deals 500 damage to the wearer per turn.
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>>124028123
>Nobunaga, Drake, Anne, Billy, Jane
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Okita vs Artoria vs Attila who's the best saber?
http://strawpoll.me/6155720
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>>124028336
Jesus christ. Facebook group makes leddit look good.
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>>124028376
Those are servant's guns, why do you guys make it seem as if it's extremely hard to think?
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>>124028502
DELETE

THIS
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>>124028336
That was physically painful to read.
I couldn't understand half of what was being said either.
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>>124028481
The rice nigger is even samefagging himself saying he's married. I really thought shitposts could not get any worse than jetfag stuff
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>>124028456
Do you mean in the game, or in general? In cuteness, or in a fight?
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>>124028502
DELETE THIS
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>>124028456
Arturia and Okita are about the same level but they do very different things. Until Atilla gets her NP upgrade interlude and maybe a buff to Military Tactics, she's going to be the inferior Saber 5-star, but her Def debuff is still good for NP chains.
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>>124028456
>saber lancelot
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>>124028336
>>124028625
Why do they all name themselves with Japanese names? Why do they play Japanese games when their ancestors were literally raped and enslaved by the Japanese?
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>>124018020
>On par with Diarmuid
>BTFO Gilles
>BTFO Iskander after he talked so much shit about her
The only 2 she was scared of, one stopped moving, and the other got keked by Kiritsugu. She was quite strong in Zero when compared to FSN. She wasn't lusting for a dick either.
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>>124028502
BLASPHEMY!
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Atillas main bonus is that she's not a shitty saberface
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>>124028456
Arturia is best in general use/anything that's not a quick/crit team

Okita is best in a quick or crit team
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>>124028456
>3 waifu material grill and one retard
I can't chose man, I'll make two of them sad.
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>>124028336
Vladfags, everyone.
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>>124028456
>No Gawain
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>>124028828
They all 'shit' on her ideologically, who gives a fuck about fights. Even Kerry puts her down, she's shit in Zero.
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>>124028710
He have more votes than Arturia.
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>>124028502
>Google search this
>Find it
>First page is this

Didn't save him from death, oh wow this is actually funny.
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>>124028968
Gawain wasn't unrivaled in his era, Gawain also got his ass handed to him by Lancelot.
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>>124028996
Yeah Iskandar ideology is so brilliant
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>>124028456
>No Gawain
Well I suppose he is the obvious choice for best Saber so you left him out to give the others a chance.
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>>124028502
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>>124028456
>Lancelot is in there
>Gawain is not
I would choose their king regardless, but it's still offensive, anon.
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>>124029208
Why is Iori so hot?
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>>124029149
When did he ever mention Iskandar?
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>>124029149
Iskander has a shityy ideology filled with holes but at least he himself believes and is satisfied with it.

Sabers however is filled with holes to the point she herself questions it.
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Im new to this lads, is leveling really this fucking hard?

I manage to summon EMIYA but lvling takes so fucking long since you only get like 5 fire orbs and they are only like 8k xp

How do people reach lvl 80 and shit? Grind a ton?
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Anyone want to share their carmilla with Medusa ce? I think the one I was using removed me.
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>>124029356
You get exp cards from the exp daily in Chaldea Gate.
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>>124029345
When he said "they all" it leaves this impresion
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>>124029091
>Gawain also got his ass handed to him by Lancelot
>implying Lancelot didn't run around like a bitch and hit Gawain when Numeral was down
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>>124029356
You do the exp daily. Once you're able to clear the 40 AP daily (which is quite easy with a good high level support), you'll be drowning in EXP.
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>>124029356
Are you making sure to do the 40ap dailies for golden exp?
Any level 90 support should be able to easily carry you past it if you're underleveled.

This event also has alota cheap and easily buyable exp
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>>124029491
>cherrypicking
Lancelot was titled unrivaled, by default he is superior to Gawain, he was also shitting on Gawain even with Numeral on. This is evident that even in Berserk (something that is akin to nerf) he is still capable of beating both Saber and Gilgamesh
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>>124029149
His ideology is brilliant enough to become his noble phantasm.
Meanwhile all sabers ideology gets her is grimdark suffering and even seeing one of her knights driven mad with rage due to it
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>>124029303
sexiest voice
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>>124029694
>10 days in a row
Do jetfags ever stop?
Also berserker lancelot is a pretty heavy boost for him if not for lancelot having such a shit master.
Have yiu even read the novels?
The only reason jets was able to handle gils gob spam was due to Zerker boost.
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>>124028456
>Someone actually managed to defeat UNRIVALED in a poll
Congratulations to Okita, funny how Artoria is his king and she still didn't make it though.
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>>124029694
He beats saber due to a type compatibility advantage along with knowing all about her.
He didn't even get close to beating gil.
For someone who complains about cherrypicking and misrepresentation, you sure like to do it too.
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>>124029347
Both Iskander and Arthoria got a giganigga berseker screaming their names.
None is better than the other.
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>>124029862
Except that Herc got nerfed massively by being under ME and the same can be said about Lancelot especially with Kariya as a master, Herc had it easier than Lancelot. Even then it took the combined effort of Gil, Diarmuid( his natural counter) and Saber. If none of those would have happened Lancelot would have killed Saber with the vulcan, the last part is stated in the novel.
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>>124030053
Who is the zerk who screams ISSSKAAAANDEERRRR or whatever it is
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>>124029862
You see that is the thing what happens if Lancelot got a rin or Illya level Master? Despite that he still made it to the top 3 surviving servants. It's good showing at least.
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>>124029694
>Even in Berserk
>capable of beating... Gilgamesh
His Berserker boost was the only reason he didn't get btfo immediately, you poor secondary.
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>>124028996
Yeah, and all who shit on her eventually got BTFO by their ideologies. Don't you find that funny?

>>124029491
Can't do that, Galatine. The fight had to be up close otherwise Galatine BTFO Lancelot.

>>124029862
>The only reason jets was able to handle gils gob spam was due to Zerker boost.
That's the only reason why he was doing that good, not the reason why he was able to handle GoB. That's also in the materials, not novel. Learn to read cite the correct sources.
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>>124030156
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>>124029694
>Berserk (something that is akin to nerf)
That's only Herakles.
Lancelot is clearly better as a berserker.

Also, Lancelot is more skilled, but Gawain is more powerful with Numeral and posses greater firepower thanks to his holy sword. They pretty much in the same rank as servants, maybe Gawain is a bit better because he doesn't drain his master like any Berserker does.
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>>124029440
>>124029507
>>124029517
cheers lads, are they the ones that gives the green cube as rewards?
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>>124030241
>That's the only reason why he was doing that good, not the reason why he was able to handle GoB.
You just said the same thing twice.
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How many Fous of each kind can you put on a servant?
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>>124030102
What does herc have to do with lancelot?
Herc doesn't have any of his skills besides "enough instinct to not fall for sabers feints" whilst lancelot not only keeps all his skills but got multiple parameters boost.
You are absolutely retarded if you think berserker lancelot is not an upgrade versus normal saber lancelot
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>>124030192
And Gil need Diamuid to save him what's your point?

>>124030342
Herc got Ilya as a master and still proved to be utter trash, Lancelot got nerfed udner ME and further nerfed by kariya this is fact.
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>>124030315
I don't understand what Brynhildr has to do with Iskander
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>>124030102
Pretty much the only one who could handle Lancelot were Diarmuid because of Dearg and Gilgamesh with EA (chances of this happening are worse than pulling the 5 stars you want in your first roll ever) or stalling until Lancelot was out of prana.
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>>124030402
I see youve only watched the anime and read the wiki, sucks to be you
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Days since Kekcelot derailment: 0
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>>124030102
Berserker Herc is shit because he could use barely any of his skills. If he was summoned as an archer, he could easily defeat gilgamesh
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>>124030402
>lancelot got nerfed by ME
Except he didn't you retard.
The only nerf lancelot got was kariya who lowered one of his stats by 1 and made it so instead of maybe 10 or so minutes, he ran outta mana after drawing arondight in barely a few minutes.

Fucking secondaries.
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>>124030402
>>124030479
You do know that the novel stated that there was no way that Lancelot could keep up forever if Gil just started firing more swords, right?
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>>124030537
That will never go above 1
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>>124030395
Really the only thing that wasn't a direct upgrade was the fact that he cost a hell of a lot more mana to use.

>>124030479
Except Lancelot can't continuously deal with Gil's spam for long periods of time, or if it's omnidirectional in large quantities.
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>>124030479
Literally untrue. We only ever saw Lancelot handle a few weapons from GoB at a time. Gil never bothered to unload the kinds of absurd volleys he used in UBW versus Herc. No matter how fast he is and how fast he can grab weapons, Lancelot would have been overwhelmed by the sheer volume of Noble Phantasms raining down on him.
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>>124030545
The same can be said if Lancelot was summoned as a Saber, heck if he wasn't being ganked by 2 other servants, what's your point

>>124030601
>serious Gil
Headcanon the post

>>124030573
Except ME is confirmed by Nasu as a nerf, Lancelot couldn't use his skills properly either, Kirei even said so
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>>124030402
Being a Berserker is a boost not a fucking nerf you retard.Herk is an exception not the rule.
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>>124030402
>Lancelot got nerfed under ME and further nerfed by kariya this is fact.
Both of those are wrong.
He was treat only because KoH and the fact that EAM almost cancelled ME in battle.
And he was not nerfed with Kariya because they were a very compatible pair, so he being shit magus was not as bad as you think.
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>>124030157
He made it in top 3 surviving servants because Kariya being out of the war was actually beneficial to that end. After getting run over by Iskandar and Kariya getting scorched by Tokiomi they spent more time "off" than any other pair.
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You think DW will rework Jacky with new animations, or will she keep the boring ones like a game release servant?
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>>124030702
>The same can be said if Lancelot was summoned as a Saber,
It couldn't be though, because as a Saber Lancelot would be missing the skills that allowed him to survive Gate of Babylon in the first place. It's a matter of compatibility. Saber Lancelot wouldn't stand a ghost of a chance.
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>>124030395
Berserker Lancelot can't spam FSG for keikaku mode though and his Magic Resist was nerfed a bit. You are right though, so far the advantages are better than the disadvantages, unless FGO shows Saber Lancelot has an Arondiblast.

>>124030402
>Lancelot got nerfed udner ME and further nerfed by kariya this is fact.
He was nerfed by Kariya but ME didn't nerf him that much, only FSG and Magic Resist.
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>>124030479
Actually lancelot loses to a huge majority of servants in the war outside of saber.
Outright stated that lancelot would lose to gil if he was serious or continued spamming
Outright stated he would lose to diurmud
I can see how he beats gilles cthulu but its pretty unlikely
He loses against Iskander rm but he might have a chance if he can arondight blast iskander and iskander for some reason doesn't use his chariot
He rekts hassans through
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>>124030749
Hoping for whatever makes the pedofags more mad
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>>124030823
>arondight blast
Sad part is Arondight actually doesn't have a blast function. It gives different boons than Excalibur, they're not clones of each other. So Lancelot would assuredly lose to Iskander, too.
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>>124030784
>The guy that beat Numeral Gawain can't beat Jobber who Gawain beat in F/E


Fact is Lancelot is massively gimped from the beginning of the war
>Kariya as a master
>ME nerfing his skills
>everyone ganging on him
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>>124030725
It's both really. You buff stats at the cost of sanity and maybe locking out of the skills. Whether or not if it's an advantage depends on the servant really.
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>>124030749
>that early UI
God it looked ugly. At least they changed it

Also she'll probably get either emiyas animation or a new set
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>>124026510
>If he had Kintoki or Vlad I'm 100% sure he would use them.
>Vlad
I can't use Vlad on that team since I have him on an arts team. At any rate, I've decided on the layout with Tamamo Cat+Extra Rin CE. Thanks anyways. Stay mad.
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>>124030864
She is actually a flat teenager, so is actually ephebophilia.
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>>124030906
>everyone ganging up on him
Is this the new excuse? Really?
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>>124030906
>ME nerfing his skills
Only nerfed FSG, everything else was actually more useful than without ME since Lancelot was going on raw instinct and couldn't second-guess himself. Where on earth are you getting the idea that ME nerfed him? You are aware that it's actually a BUFF skill, yes?
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>>124030749
Who knows.
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>>124030702
>>serious Gil
>Headcanon the post

>Disregarding narration from the novel as headcannon

The next count of glowing Noble Phantasms reached thirty-two. This time, even Rider kept silent. Berserker had endured a continuous attack of sixteen Noble Phantasms, but there was no way to resist twice that number. That was the same for all the other Servants. Nobody could estimate the limits of the latent power of the golden Archer anymore.
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>>124030342
It's due the fact Gawain had Leo a Master that is close to Ilya level Master just imgaine Lancelot have gotten a Master that is the same level as Illya? the problem for Lancelot in the fate zero war is time limitation thanks to kariya can only keep Lancelot for a few or more mins in the battle field before dying due to worms. It just shows that if Lancelot have gotten a better Master that is to say Illya Level you could say "ah fuck that lets get outta here"
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>>124031017
>flat teenager
That's even worse then
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>>124030667
So what you're saying is that Gil need to go all out to defeat a gimped Lancelot?

>serious GIl
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>>124031052
Looks like emiyas animation
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>>124031052
Why is Jack so tall? She looks like she'd be as tall as Saber if she were standing straight up.
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Is there actually someone retarded enough to argue UNRIVALLED didn't get seriously buffed as berserker? The only reason berserker UNRIVALLED didn't rekt everyone was due to shitty kariya as master. Anti jetfags truly are the worst
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lads how do i get myself a jeane d'arc?
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>>124031067
>he can't infer from text
It's an exaggeration like the Narrator saying "no way the protag can survive this!" and guess what happens next he survives.
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>>124031084
It really doesn't change that much other than boost his ability to engage in melee battles with Arondight (if he'll even draw it without a CS or maximum Arthur hateboner mode). Kariya kept up well enough until that point.
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>>124030601
>>124030645
>>124030667
Ugh, I hate to post this, but when secondaries argue with headcanon, I must.

>Perhaps Tokiomi evacuated Archer when he realized the disadvantage.
>Gilgamesh displayed his Noble Phantasms with great fanfare and placed himself at a disadvantage
>However, they had not anticipated Servant Berserker’s immense powers or his exceptional ability of harnessing an opponent’s Noble Phantasm. He was a natural opponent for Tokiomi’s Gilgamesh.
>In order for the battle to swing in Tokiomi’s favor…The other Servants must first defeat Berserker.
>Berserker as his Servant also had the mysterious ability of being able to seize others' Noble Phantasms, considerably the arch-nemesis of Archer.
>Berserker, who was a formidable enemy due to his natural differences with Archer, had also become Kirei’s puppet along with his Master. There was nothing else that could threaten Kotomine Kirei.

Novel only, let's go to materials now.

>Capitalize on Team Berserker. Team Berserker was a powerful enemy against all other teams, but Lancer had an advantage due to compatibility. It would be optimal to let Berserker destroy the other teams and reach the finale. He could then be defeated at that point.

Another translation of the same line
>Though Berserker was the greatest threat to all the other Servants, he had poor compatibility against Lancer. Thus, if at all possible it would be in Team Lancer’s best interest to allow them to stick around to the very end and eliminate all the other teams, before swooping in at the last second to take them out.

Iskander proved wrong the 32 NPs statement during their last fight too, who was literally said to apply to everyone there, yet him, the shittiest of all present at that time, was able to survive 80.

>>124030728
>And he was not nerfed with Kariya because they were a very compatible pair, so he being shit magus was not as bad as you think.
This is wrong, novel stated he was nerfed.
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>>124031142
I'm not, actually. Why are you trying to put words in my mouth? All I stated was the fact that Lancelot is shown in the novel to have to strain to repel a relatively small number of Noble Phantasms compared to the number that Gilgamesh is already known to use in fights. Hell, like >>124031084 pointed out even the narration states that Gilgamesh was fully prepared to use enough weapons to annihilate Lancelot on the spot until Tokiomi ordered him to retreat.
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>>124030729
>He made it in top 3 surviving servants because Kariya being out of the war was actually beneficial to that end. After getting run over by Iskandar
It was good to retreat ad have a better plan the way Lancelot got an opportunity to grab a Jet to fight Gilgamesh is a good move. It shows that the very few resources that Lancelot had it still shows that he still able to think on his feet somewhat even under mad enhancement
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>>124031260

>Iskander proved wrong the 32 NPs statement during their last fight too, who was literally said to apply to everyone there, yet him, the shittiest of all present at that time, was able to survive 80.
>Literally didn't survive
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>>124031302
My bad. Second link was meant to be >>124031067
not >>124031084


>>124031260
Rider DIDN'T survive 80 Phantasms, though. He got fucking wrecked, and only managed to reach Gilgamesh right before being killed.
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I hate Jetfags more every day
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>>124031373
>what is Enkidu
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Don't you jet fags ever get tired?
you're so obnoxious that you make herakeks look like fucking sweethearts
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Holy shit jetfag cancer at it again.
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>>124030823
>Outright stated that lancelot would lose to gil if he was serious or continued spamming
32 statement is not only proven wrong by Iskander, but also everything else regarding the Gil vs Lancelot matchup states Gilgamesh was the one at disadvantage and Gil couldn't win at all.

>>124031067
>That was teh same for all other Servants
>Iskander survives 80
So, why are you posting a debunked statement?
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>>124031084
I was talking about a straight fight between the two of them, based in their stats and skills.
They are pretty close, but Gawain has the edge with Numeral and the beam sword.
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>just max ascended my jets

you make me ashamed
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>>124031456
What triggered the jetfags this time?
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>>124031521
>Survive
>Princess Bride meme phrase
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>>124031002
You can use the same servant on different parties tho
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Would Berserker Lancelot Alter be the most powerful servant in Fate?
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>>124031567
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>>124031451
>Rider DIDN'T survive 80 Phantasms, though. He got fucking wrecked, and only managed to reach Gilgamesh right before being killed.
Does Iskander have Battle Continuation? No.
Was he alive after the barrage? Yes.
Meaning he survived twice what was stated to be impossible for everyone there no matter what they did.
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>>124031567
That screen is the shit you've unlocked from the Honnoji Point ladder, retard.
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>>124031260
>prisma
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>>124031567
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>90% of the replies from the last 25 minutes are hidden

>>124031567
>this bait again
Nobody can possibly be this stupid
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>>124031260
>Nasu is asked how Lancer could win the war and describes in his own words the absolutely IDEAL situation for Lancer to win.
>He has to have Lancelot beat Gilgamesh because Diarmuid stands no chance against Gil but by compatibility might be able to take Berserker.
It's literally all conjecture by Nasu on how dominoes could perfectly fall to allow Diarmuid to come out on top. Why are you somehow taking that as gospel that "Lancelot WILL beat Gilgamesh" instead of what was actually said, "If Diarmuid is going to win, Lancelot HAS to beat Gilgamesh"
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Reminder that jetfags are the worst fanbase that exists
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>>124031684
Oh... sorry.
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>>124031715
don't get worked mark.
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>>124031536
In the right condensations yes, like in moon cell where the sun never sets, but in a normal holy war where most fights happens in night Gawain is fucked.
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>>124031649
Too lazy to switch CE everytime, and Vlad is better suited for an arts team that has Casko.
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Attention anons
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>>124031672
You do realize that even without Battle Continuation, being stabbed in a place that's not the heart or brain isn't usually instant death, correct? Death by blood loss tends not to happen until the victim's had a chance to actually lose his blood.
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>>124031712
Nasu already confirmed the canoncity of Prisma, what are you upset what happens when Lancelot isn't gimped?
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>>124031302
And it's later stated Gilgamesh was the one at disadvantage and that he had no way to win. So? You know new statements debunk the previous ones, right? Kiritsugu literally let Kariya live because of Lancelot being able to handle Gil too.
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>>124031801
>and Vlad is better suited for an arts team that has Casko.
He can be in both parties tho, are you having trouble comprehending?
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I don't think I've ever hated a fanbase as much as I hate UNWANTED faggots
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>>124031894
>canoncity of Prisma
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Why you guys hate Jetfags? They can't possibly be THAT bad right?
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A friendly but firm reminder not to ever, ever reply to the jetfag's posts. He is not just autistic, he is a deluded and insane person who legitimately believes there is a conspiracy out to sully the "good name" of Lancelot, and will dismiss all criticism as part of said conspiracy. On top of that, he is a secondary that has gone on record stating he doesn't even like Fate/Stay Night. There's simply nothing to be gained from conversing with him.
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>>124031626
Literally nothing, they just started shit on their own
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>>124031814
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>>124031915
Do you? I just said I don't want to switch CE every time I want to switch him to a buster team. There are other factors, but please use your brain.
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Yeesh
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>>124031712
Illya route

>>124031728
>Nasu
The strategy is called a 100% win. Lancelot WILL beat Gilgamesh and everyone else, although the gimping of everyone (Lancelot included) comes first. This could mean that Gilgamesh can no longer use EA or gimps his mobility, which seals Gil only way to win.
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>>124032070
See this pure autism going on around you?

This shit happens 3-5 times a week.


They really are that bad.
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>>124032070
If you've been here the last two weeks, you've seen just how bad they can get. Most of it seems to be one EXTREMELY buttravaged manchild, though he's sure not doing any favors for the other jetfags.
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>>124031260
It's already stated he is boosted as Berserker and he wouldn't have survived Gil if it wasn't for his class.

>As he often fell into madness due to troubles involving Guinevere, he has a particular compatibility with the Berserker class.
>For a makeshift magus, Kariya's suitability as a Master was exceptional. The fact that he was able to endure the maddened Lancelot's outrageous magical energy consumption for as long as he did is a feat truly deserving of praise. While he might have been better off if Zouken hadn't punished him by forcing him to summon a Berserker, well… I hate to say it, but the only reason Lancelot was able to fight Gilgamesh as well as he did was due to the parameter boost from being maddened. And given the single-minded devotion with which Kariya was pursuing Tokiomi, there's no way you could expect him to have the prudence to avoid that powerhouse team and survive to the very end. When all's said and done, as long as he carried the Matou spirit of putting grudges before everything else, he was probably doomed to failure no matter what.
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Jesus folks a Gil vs Lance solo goes like this

Lance grabs 10 weapons
Gilgamesh fires 11 weapons
Rinse and repeat until Lancelot can't grab and block until he dies
Its simple as that
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>>124032198
And how does being Illya route doesn't make it fanfition?
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>>124032201
>3-5
Its been going on for 10 days straight anon.
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>>124032104
>tfw I have a Klefki keychain

I regret nothing
Maybe is the reason why I don't get spooked with black keys? Like it is protecting me from other keys?
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>>124031907
>And it's later stated Gilgamesh was the one at disadvantage and that he had no way to win
The fuck am I reading
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>>124031949
>>124031739
>memeposting because B T F O by facts so hard
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>>124032227
Ahhh okay I have been ignoring them but I just arrived from reddit
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>>124032280
Are you retarded? Lancelot killed the shit out of that lamp post, Gilgamesh has no chance.
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>>124032253
>he wouldn't have survived Gil if it wasn't for his class.
Point out where that's said. Literally only states that ME is the reason why he was able to fight Gil as well as he did, which means not even getting scratched or forced to take a step back.
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>>124032372
>losing arguement
>better pretend I'm willing
You're also implying the people posting are even involved with the arguement.
The people posting polls are most likely people sick of JETSLEL autism.
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>>124032132
>>and Vlad is better suited for an arts team that has Casko.
That part implies you did not get my point, please refrain from giving unnecessary information, makes you look dumb
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>>124032280
Except that's not how Nasu fight goes. Gil will never go seriously enough to fire the necessary amount to kill Lancelot. Lancelot is also a hard coutner to Gil as seen in Prisma/El Meloi case files and statements made by Nasu
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>Jetkeks again
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>>124032554
You're wrong though. Gilgamesh was literally about to kill Lancelot when Tokiomi called him away. He was doubling the amount of phantasms he fired with every volley, and despite surviving that far into the fight Lancelot hadn't found a single chance to counter-attack Gilgamesh.
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Quickly /fgog/ post your best Attila chibi
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>>124032503
Except that's literally contradicted later by having ME only beneficial to low tier servants which lancelot is absolutely not. Also a master like Kariya can never support ME properly anyway it is only a nerf. Kirei even said it nerfed Lancelot.
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The real autism is even replying to jetfags.
Leave the fucking autistic child anon.
Would you hit an autistic child and argue with them?
Well its the same for jetfags
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>>124032457
Why should I? I have a Lv80 Nobu already.
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>>124032457
Am I missing something? Is there something I'm not seeing?
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>>124032732
>said the jet fag
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>>124032539
You really are stupid. Why would I put Vlad in a team that doesn't fit his role more? Kindly fuck off instead of wasting my time.
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>>124032714
Kirei was specifically talking about FSG though
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>>124032714
>ME only beneficial to low tier servants
That's exactly what he is.
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>>124032457
I haven't seen a super success in 3 weeks.
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>>124031949
This poll was rigged and surpassed the number of posters at one point. Actual number was 17 before some faggot started to proxy.

>>124032342
Did you even read the wall of text posted before that proves Gilgamesh was the one getting fucked?
>Perhaps Tokiomi evacuated Archer when he realized the disadvantage.
>Gilgamesh displayed his Noble Phantasms with great fanfare and placed himself at a disadvantage.
>In order for the battle to swing in Tokiomi’s favor…The other Servants must first defeat Berserker.
Literally after the 32 debunked statement, and this kept going for literally all of the novel. The only way implied and later explained that Gil was going to win was Kariya being drained out of prana.
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>>124032714
>ME only beneficial to low tier servants
>ME is stated outright by Nasu to be beneficial to Lancelot

LANCELOT CONFIRMED LOW-TIER SERVANT
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>>124032503
Any of those NP are deadly on Lancelot, if he had been scratched he would be dead. He would dies if he does worst against Gil.
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>>124032732
>Would you hit an autistic child and argue with them?
I bet there would be a few here that would
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>>124032752
WHALE NOISES
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Am I the only one really hoping saber lancelot when hes released is a 3*? It would make getting them to mass burn be much easier.
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>>124032785
You're missing my point again, please refrain from replying if you cant follow
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>>124032846
>This poll was rigged and surpassed the number of posters at one point.

Because nobody lurks, right?
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>>124032732
>Would you hit an autistic child
Of course I would.
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>>124032912
That's easily doable for literally anyone.
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>>124032919
It's unlikely since Jerusalem is the round table chapter and I doubt they'll make gawain or bedivere 4*
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>>124032710
I don't have any, sorry. Have a Okita.
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>>124032912
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>>124032846
The poll number never surpassed the number of posters, in fact it was below that number by around twenty when you were complaining about that.

>Gilgamesh displayed his Noble Phantasms with great fanfare and placed himself at a disadvantage.

Do you have zero reading comprehension. Gilgamesh was placing himself at a disadvantage because he wasn't hiding his identity. He was throwing caution to the wind and blowing his load on the first night of the war. Tokiomi was established to be an over-cautious faggot and didn't want the other Masters to know everything Gilgamesh could do, so he stopped him before his brash display revealed any more information about him.
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>>124032871
post more puppy
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>>124032882
Sure not like Iskander with the same END tanked 80. Lancelot has pretty high durability, a full force strike to the head didn't even harm him. A scratch isn't going to do shit.
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>>124032714
>ME only beneficial to low tier servants
I don't remember this
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>>124033001
?
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If Gilgamesh shot the original Gae Bolg at Lancelot, could Lancelot use it to activate the instant kill move?
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>>124032554
REally and Gilgamesh is going to allow Lancelot get near him? Really?
His defeats are by total surprise. Saber pulls Avalon on him. Shirou does UBW and Blitzes. Sakura noms on him when he thinks she's dead
Lancelot has nothing in stock that can catch Gilgamesh unprepared, he is screwed period
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>>124033118
It's full title is "The round tables crusade" So yeah
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>>124033087
Best Lancer
Best Boy
Best Bulge
Best OTP
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>>124033109
>Skewered head to toe in a suicide rush without any care about how he would be after it was over
>Tanked
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>>124032690
Stop arguing with the debunked statement. It's proven wrong by Iskander. The statement didn't apply to Lancelot, it applied to everyone.

After that statement was done, it was even said that Gilgamesh was the one at disadvantage and that Tokiomi literally couldn't win as long as he was around. Diarmuid entry in Zero Material also implies Lancelot can beat Gilgamesh.
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>>124032912
you can thank the chinks for the literally free apples and quartz
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>>124033162
No Proto Gae Bolg is the 'Spear that will Become Gae bolg' besides EAM doesn't mean Lancelot knows ALL that Cu Chulainn does
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>>124032846
>Gilgamesh displayed his Noble Phantasms with great fanfare and placed himself at a disadvantage
>In order for the battle to swing in Tokiomi’s favor…The other Servants must first defeat Berserker.
Cuase he was giving away a fatal weakness for servants: identity and knowing Gil he wouldnt have stopped until the guy that made him angry (Lancelot) was put down
>>124033162
No, it's done with Cu's ability that he learned from Scathatch
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>>124033162
No, the instant kill move didn't exist until Cu Chulainn got his hands on it.
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Lets settle this once and for all
http://strawpoll.me/6155989
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>>124033310
is there even any evidence to the thing about chinks ddosing the servers?
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>>124033303
Both of your statements have been disproved in this thread, please take your headcanon somewhere else.
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>>124033454
whoever the fuck it was we got free shit
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>>124033423
inb4 people bitch it was rigged.
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>>124032793
>>124032871
Non-ME Lancelot was able to defeat Numeral Gawain who already defeated Gil (F-E, if you secondaries know what that is.) He is titled as unrivaled in his era meaning that he's superior to Artoria, who able to force Gil to draw Ea. Imagine if Lancelot had a proper master with no ME nerfing his skills. He would have wrecked the 4th HGW
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>>124033109
>Iskander with the same END tanked 80
He didn't. Iskander was even boosted by command seals and had a horse, non of those let him touch Gil, a non-Berserker Lancelot without ME boost would be dead faster than
Iskander.
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>>124033423
>that lone 1 no
Tip fucking top lel
FUCKING CONFIRMED THAT ITS JUST ONE BUTTDEVASTED FAGGOT
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>>124033505
pretty sure it would just be DW fucking up as usual, just like every other event
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>>124033079
>Gilgamesh was placing himself at a disadvantage because he wasn't hiding his identity.
At first it was implied that perhaps Tokiomi called Gilgamesh because he realized the disadvantage. The one confirming Gilgamesh placed himself at a disadvantage came later, during that Part, it was literally nothing but Lancelot wanking, the one saying Lancelot was indeed a threat and that Tokiomi had no way to win as long as he was around came from that same Act.
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>>124033534
>What are match-ups
Jesus you jetfags are fucking retarded, you probably read F/SN and came away with the conclusion that EMIYA is the strongest heroic spirit
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>>124033651
>EMIYA is the strongest heroic spirit
He is.
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>>124033624
>lets misrepresent it by calling the other people proxy fags
Am I going to have to show you the image of jetfags only having 9 votes before jumping to 40+
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>>124033651
Counter Guardians are stronger that servants, he got nerfed by turning into a servant
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>>124033534
>Rock beat Scissor, who beat Paper. So that means Rock can beat Paper!

I'm not saying this is a rock paper scissor scenario, but that is what you are saying. It is impossible to say and you can only assume based off of the skills they have. Not compare who they won or lost against.
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>>124033534
He could also defeat Herakles and Karna
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>>124033534
If we are using Extra, then it also noted how making Gawain angry gives you the edge against him.
Archer used this trick to survive Numeral Gawain in Extra until the sun was turned off.
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>>124033295
>Still alive after the barrage despite no Battle Continuation and was still able to both move and attack
Yeah, he tanked it.

>>124033546
>Iskander was even boosted by command seals
Only boost Iskander received from the Command Seals was an extended prana supply, this is stated in the novel.

>Horse
Died midway and Iskander kept eating GoB for an undefined period of time after that.

>non-Berserker Lancelot without ME boost would be dead faster than
Iskander
Saber Lancelot has A END, B AGI and most likely still has KoH. He will survive far more than Iskander.
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>>124033423
Alright poll maker here.
I took a screenshot exactly 2 minutes after it was made to ensure no proxy fagging.
These are the results.
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This is just sad. How long until the jetfags start using proxies to feel less alone in the world?
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>>124033721
No it's Lancelot, EMIYA even admits it
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>>124033770
Counter Guardians are stronger because they have literally infinite mana, not because of stats and such.
CG Emiya could have UBW on firing as many swords as he could comprehend, forever.
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>>124033770
He doesn't get nerfed as a servant, he gets boosted as a CG.
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>>124031658
Yes.
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>>124033651
>>124033772
If it comes to match up it's even worse for Gil you fucking retard. KoH is stated to be a natural counter for GoB.
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>>124033534
Gawain was fucking pissed and swinging like a mad dog wanting vengeance.

No skill. No Tactics. And all Lancelot managed was to Stall him untl Numeral Worn Off
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>>124034104
>Counter Guardians are stronger because they
Yeah that's what I just said
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>>124034163
Yeah I forgot GoB is all that Gil has. Damn, I'm so retarded. I should just kill myself. End your life
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please stop literally no one cares
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>>124034179
>Already better than how Gil fared
GILFAGS LITERALLY ON SUICIDE WATCH
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>124034104
Does that mean he can project an infinite number of Excalibur and shoot them all without killing himself in the process?
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>>124033482
Disproven by what exactly? Headcanon? That's not how it works.

>>124033347
>Cuase he was giving away a fatal weakness for servants: identity and knowing Gil he wouldnt have stopped until the guy that made him angry (Lancelot) was put down
Yeah let's just ignore the part where he was also said to be a threat and a natural counter, and also let's ignore materials saying Lancelot can beat everyone during the 4th except Diarmuid.
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>>124028336
The fact that he uses a Vlad pic makes me mad. Why ruin my favorite Servant.
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>>124034163
If you're going to be like that, it's ALSO stated that KoH has a natural fucking limit, Lancelot's body and how quickly it can move. There is a hard ceiling to how quickly Lancelot can intercept weapons from Gate of Babylon, and once this ceiling is surpassed by the rate of fire, he's doomed, at least so long as he continues to attempt to use KoH.
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>>124034224
You said he got nerfed, which implies stat loss or NP loss or ability loss.
He's exactly the same, but with a finite tank.
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>>124034289
Gilfags really are ridiculous next thing you know they will say they think Gil can beat Arc
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>>124033924
>has KoH
>Arondight is his main weapon
That's not how it works.
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30 mins till maintenance?
>>124034351
That doesnt guarantee anything, at all and yeah let's ignore materiasl that say literally everyone had a chance to win, even Gil
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>>124034338
Projecting divine construct is an issue with his abilities not mana just like how IH soldiers have no NP.
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Stop being mean to Ran-chan
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>>124034463
1h and 27 minutes.
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>>124034351
>That's not how it works.
It's how you want it to work. It's all you've been spouting for the last ten days. Maybe you're too autistic to realize it, but you've been twisting every fucking quote you've "provided" and taken false conclusions for it to support your own biases. Also, let's repeat this in regards to that last line and see if it sticks: CAN beat does not mean WILL beat.
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>>124034338
Yes.
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>>124034338
If its mana loss that kills him with Excalibur, then yes.
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>>124034485
Though he implied he could project it against Saber, and there's that move in CCC.
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>>124034416
Yeah he lost his infinite mana supply
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>>124034498
I promise I will stop being mean to Lancelot for the remainder of time if a moderator comes into this thread, personally calls the jetfag an autist, and bans him.
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>>124034379
It depends Lancelot could not handle the thousands like the novel said that is Enkidu territory, but he can certainty handle 80 or a little more, but the question is how long can kariya last before dying.
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>Lancelot literally had an easier time with Saber while nerfed and having a dying master than Gil
>Gil gets B T F O by Saber and Gawain, oppositions that Lancelot is superior to.
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>>124034617
He can't project Excalibur Image outside of Moon Cell
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>>124034617
Which is possible because of being in the moon cell boost his projection not because of mana.
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>>124034451
So Arturia doesn't have IA because she has Excalibur? Wow, you sure know how things work.

>>124034267
>Gil using EA
Uro stated that Serious Gil doesn't really exist because of how unlikely he is to actually go serious.

>>124034379
>There is a hard ceiling to how quickly Lancelot can intercept weapons from Gate of Babylon, and once this ceiling is surpassed by the rate of fire, he's doomed
Problem is it won't be surpassed because it can't. Novel, Materials and Prisma say so.
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>>124034562
Just stop anon, if he can't notice how much hypocrisy and double standards he's been filled with this past week. Its best not to push it.
Let him live with his delusions and autism.
Escapism might not be good for you but its probably the only thing he has left.
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>>124034828
>Uro stated
:^)
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>>124034828
>no limit
Novel says nothing
Materials says nothing
Prisma says nothing

Nice head canon
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>Arturia has a Berserker dressed in black that only screams her name
>Iskandar has a black Berserker that only screams his name
Berserker Humbaba that screams GILGAMESH when.
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>>124034828
>serious Gil doesnt exist
I guess I dreamed up Strange Fake and CCC.
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>118 posters
>Fate threads on /a/ barely reach 20
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>>124034858
You're right. At this point I'm only hurting myself by humoring his insanity.

Let's try and have a little fun, for once, /fgog/. If you had to build a 7 Servant team, one of each class, to fight in a Holy grail war tournament, what Servants would you pick? Remember, they'll be fighting as a team, so cohesion and compatibility will matter just as much as individual strength.
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>>124034463
The probability is still there. Gil is also stated to be able to win if he really wanted, but he can't beat Lancelot via GoB. It was implied twice during the novel, that Lancelot was actually going to lose for prana issues, one was directly after the first fight was done, and the second was during Gil and Kirei conversation.
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>>124034617
>there's that move in CCC
Excalibur Image isn't Excalibur, it's just a really shitty Chinese bootleg version that can barely call itself Excalibur.
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>>124034351
>Lancelot can beat everyone during the 4th except Diarmuid.

Well a jetfag himself said it, guess unrivaled is not so unrivaled anymore
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>>124028456
You forgot to add Gilles to the poll.
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>>124034828
>complains about other people using headcanon
>doesn't see his own arguements are filled with headcanon
Are you that faggot who thinks everything ever done by jetfags is done by an "anti jetfag" and that everyone who hates lancelot is part of a conspiracy?
Becuase you sound like him
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>>124035016
So you're saying Lancelot is on par with BB and Enkidu? Concession accepted. Glad you finally agree
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>>124034998
>Berserker Humbaba
I would prefer Berserker Enkidu.
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>>124035062
It can do a blast though, so it's still a better sword than Arondight.
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Stop power levels! Post cute Siegfried
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>>124034828
>So Arturia doesn't have IA because she has Excalibur? Wow, you sure know how things work.
Do you know?
Arondight is specifically stated to seal KoH.
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>>124035016
Enkidu and cause game mechanic.
In CC Nasu stated to be pure fan service than anything, but normal means Gil will never be serious as long it's his green sexy doll is present.
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>tfw your waifu can defeat lancelot
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Would handle Lancelot by himself
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>>124034562
Sorry but everything points to Lancelot winning while the only that points to Gil winning was debunked volumes after it was made.

>Twisting quote
How does that even work? How do I twist something that is outright stated?

>CAN beat does not mean WILL beat.
Enough evidence points that he will. Diarmuid one for example is a 100% success rate.
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>>124035053
Herakles *6
No need for caster.
Herakles spam will be gg.
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>>124035217
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>>124034828
>Implying Gil have to go serious
You know he just have to pull Merodach or other beam swords.
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>>124035053
Saber Liu Bei
Archer Huang Zhong
Lancer Guan Yu
Rider Ma Chao
Caster Zhuge Liang
Berserker Zhang Fei
Assassin Ma Dai
Literally perfect compatibility
Wish Shu had a better Assassin though.
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>>124035217
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>>124035270
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STOP REPLYING TO THE ONE BUTTMAD JETFAG
JUST STOP
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>>124035217
k
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If it can happen to me, it can happen to you too!
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>>124035535
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>>124035407
>>124035451
>>124035548
>>124035634
All this cute Siegfrieds, finally the thread is saved!
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>>124035437
hello operator i've gone completely shu
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I guess I should roll huh?
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>>124035628
>no medusa ce
>6000 points meaning you're not using many gaduo or event servants
What the fuck are you using as your ces?
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>>124035351
The other Herks might not be too happy about someone summoning Berserker Herk
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>>124035437
>No Zhao Yun

Incomplete team
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Ye
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>>124034976
Novel says Gil won't win until Lancelot is dealt with.
Materials say Lancelot can beat everyone but Diarmuid
Prisma outright says it doesn't fucking matter how many NPs you throw at him, or her in this case.

Quotes were already posted earlier this thread.

>>124035156
How is it headcanon when it's backed up by the novel? The quotes are >>124031260
Are you implying the novel is headcanon?

>>124035249
Sealing doesn't mean he doesn't have it, it means it's sealed.
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>>124035628
>hit 900k hp
>still no ce
I'm losing hope.
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>>124035818
SERVER IS BUGGED LEVEL UP YOUR SERVANTS NOW
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>>124031256
>It's an exaggeration I swear unless it's about the unrivalled then it's confirmation that he's the best gilfags and herkfags btfo.
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>>124035053
Saber: Gawain
Archer: Arash
Lancer: Cu
Berserker: Kyouhime
Caster: the cute book living RM
Rider: Nero
Assassin: Cain

I particularly want to see a Nero with the 666 vs dragon Kyouhime.
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Anyone have drake's final ascension art?
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>>124035794
Well Wu doesn't have seven classes worth and Wei has too much internal AMBITION for trust.
>>124035861
Can't have two Lancers senpai
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>>124035906
>600k hp
>3 Gudao drops
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You are now a master.

Would be the funniest servant to summon and have around for the war and why? What catalyst would you use to try and summon such servant?
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Siegfried can handle Lancelot by himself
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>>124035832
I didn't get a Medusa CE and I didn't have anybody with one on my support list at the time. I had two GUDAOs (one of mine and the support's), Nobu, support Okita, and three 3-star event Servants.
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>>124036126
I'm a Siegfriend but Lancelot is a pretty hard counter to Siegfried unless he can just stall out until Lancelot's master dies/retreats once Arondight comes out.

Against KOH Lancelot then yeah Siegfried is favored
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>>124036041
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>>124036068
remember kids
guan yu > zilong
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>>124036108
buy a dragon dildo for jeanne
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>>124036168
Rip in peace
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>>124036108
You
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>>124036253
Thanks anon
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>>124036126
>Arondight
Nope but it will be a long as fuck fight because of AoF. Lancelot attacks will only be doing like C or B damage.

E from A str, D from buffed STR of Arondight, C because buff against Dragon, and B because MUH SKILL like Karna. Might even go further if Arondight is counted as active.
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>>124036285
I'm boring as fuck and would get you killed because I'm weak, is that ok?
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>>124036108
Gilles using all my Jeanne doujins.
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>>124036108
>put summon circle in a museum

would you get one at random or would you get a horrible conglomeration
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>>124035889
>Sealing doesn't mean he doesn't have it, it means it's sealed.
Does that means Saber has her lance?
Or that Herakles has Nine Lives, ME, God Hand and Hydra Arrows at the same time no matter in which class he is summoned?
Or that Medea can summon a dragon whenever she wants?

It never works like that, why should Lancelot be the exception?
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>>124036416
Our love history will conquer everything anon!
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>>124036041
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>>124036256
Skill
Guan Yu>Zhao Yun>Huang Zhong>Ma Chao>Zhang Fei
Personality
Huang Zhong>>Zhao Yun>shit>Guan Yu>Ma Chao>Zhang Fei

Wei a best though
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>>124036250
>lancelot is a pretty hard counter to siegfried
except that completely wrong.
siegfried is a natural counter to lancelot on the other hand
for lancelot to finish siegfried the battle would be LONG and hard.
fanfir armor damage mitigation being that fucking outrageous he could leave lots of scatches andcuts on him but something fatal it would easily take hours for him.
unless you had a SSS+ master fighting siegfried would be impossible for lancelot's mana upkeep and even then Siegfried is a fucking monster in terms of combat.
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>>124036575
Because UNRIVALED :^)
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>>124036574
Don't you have to put the catalyst on the summon circle?
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>>124036575
None of those things are "sealed," they're inaccessible. Herc and Saber just don't get summoned with those, while Medea simply doesn't have the knowledge to summon or control her dragon.
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Every fucking time.
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>>124031260
>I better keep posting the same 5 quotes and keep using words like headcanon and rigged and btfo theirs no way anyone will be able to tell I'm the same person who been shitposting for ever now that I think of it I haven't used the samefag or antijet excuses in a couple of minutes better get right on that.
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>>124036809
Nah, you can have something in the immediate vicinity instead.
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Making new thread
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>>124036702
more like cao cao wei a best.
fucking cao pi HE TOLD YOU NOT TO GIVE SIMA YI POWER BUT YOU STILL DID IT ANYWAY.
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>>124036707
Well Arondight has a bonus damage against dragons, but we can't be sure how much help it would be...And Siegried can just Balmungblast if needed. But if fighting until dawn against Karna provided him with nothing but scratches then yeah Lancelot could have a hard time securing a kill
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>>124036926
>Page 6
>new bread
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>>124035073
Why would I deny a material statement? I'm not delusional like the idiots arguing against canon facts coming from the novels and materials.

If I post quotes and back my arguments with canon, I must accept everything that canon states. Diarmuid counters Lancelot with Dearg, and he can beat him, if I deny this, I would be as delusional as the people arguing against Lancelot beating Gil.
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>>124037030
I get it, Diarmuid>Lancelot
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>>124036980
It's speculation, but since Sieg's invulnerability comes from a dragon's blood, isn't it possible that the anti-dragon Arondight might ignore or destroy it?
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>>124036707
Well there's Arondight
But given the Dragon Lancelot slayed is a completely nameless beast without any fame its Dragon Slaying might be weak ass
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>>124036931
>Cao Pi
You mean Cao Rui right?
And Sima Yi was the only reason Zhuge Liang didn't shit all over Wei.
Cao Cao was truly the best Cao though. Chibi was a mistake.
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Is Cao Cao the Griffith of ROTK?
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>>124036847
How?
I'm only getting "success" explain yourself senpai. What are you feeding her with?
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>>124037135
It might, it might not at this point it is only especulation. Would still like to see it though
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>>124036980
>>124037135
According to The wiki Armor of Fafnir's defensive value is equal to B+ against NPs wielded by heroes, unless they are dragon slaying NPs in which case it's only B.
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>>124036575
Rho isn't sealed, she doesn't have it. Just like Avalon isn't with her either.
Heracles does have Nine Lives, but it's sealed, just like God Hand is also sealed in FGO.
Medea can also has the dragon, but this is a completely different case. She can't even use it not because it's sealed, but because she doesn't know how to use it.

KoH and FSG are sealed when Arondight is used, as long as it's not, it's not sealed.
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>>124037135
You saying like Arondight is a Dragon Slayer on the Level of Ascalon or Balmung
It isn't. Lancelot's Dragon Slaying is not even notorious according to his profile, its just 'Oh and he killed a Dragon too' but when compared to the Moon Dragon and Fafnir? That beastie is lame a fuck
its like Uro added Dragon Slayer only to shit on Arturia further
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>>124037180
Wll both are dragonslayers but Siegfried is the strongest dragon slayer so it's obviously Sigfried > Lancelot.
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>>124036707
Already did kind of a calc here, this is only taking AoF mitigation and not Siegfried B END, so damage is actually lower than what I said here.
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>>124037242
Gold Archer EXP cards covered in semen.
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>>124037242
It's just random luck.
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>>124037336
>You saying like Arondight is a Dragon Slayer on the Level of Ascalon or Balmung
It should be higher, A++. Arondight concept overall is actually stronger than those 2.
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>>124037647
Lancelot is less known for slaying his dragon compared to Siegfried or St. George were for slaying theirs.
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