/dyg/ - Duelyst General

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Xth for blast

Wanning as Vanar against Lyonar is simply fucking impossible and it feels unfair as fuck. Imba
>playing vanar

>>123549896
They counter you, deal with it.
Alternatively think it's not
>le balanced man of wishin' into the stars for 17+ dmg

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>people complain about divine bonds when it requires a big unit to survive a turn on the board without being hurt

>No black friday sale

>>123551107
its a beta

>>123549949
>one faction should be allowed to shit all over another
Yeah, no. People say that healyonar shits all over songay, but that can be a victory in some cases. I don't think that I ever won a game against lyonar in diamond because it's simply imposible.

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>play against magmar
>2nd turn elder
>4rd turn cloning
wtf! How is this balance. Elder shouldn't drop egg upon death. That's just ridiculous. I managed to get rid both of the egg spawn and elder but i forgot it spawn another egg upon death. It take a lot of shit to get rid of that.

Anyway, despite losing to bullshit magmar. I am glad i took a break from the game and came back winning 5 games in a row.

>have some 5,6 and 7 mana minions as abyssian
>have sacrificial summoning
>hands almost full so i use summoning anyway
>end turn expecting one of those fag appear
>nope, it's 2 mana shitters
Fucking hate rng in this game. I think i either have shit deck or shit luck. Meanwhile some shitter always have elder at turn 2.

>>123550490
>Lyonar can heal in a lot of different ways
>Holy Immolation > Divine Bond > The center of your anus
>Implying this isnt game winning

Against Lyonar:
>don't draw enthropic decay
>die

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>play 10 games in gold
>8 against songay
>every game depends on how fast draws i get and how lucky is songay's hand
S O L I T A I R E

>>123560123
>Not taking into account your back
>Not knowing when to literally just stay on the back wall and wait for them to use their hand badly and heal it back
>not playing around cards at all times

As much as I hate songay, it is not a one way trip to PvE. There are things you can do and specific cards that can help you.

>>123560303
Obviously I take those to account but it doesnt make it any more interesting, I did win 5 of the 8 games so it's not like I'm butthurt
It's just awfully stupid to play against it
Also I main Vanar so heals arent all that many for me

>>123560497
I assume you run 4 emerald rejuvs?

>>123558889
Just lost 3 games against different Lyonars in a row simply because I couldn't remove Ironcliffe on the next turn. That thing shouldn't have Airdrop.

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>>123560123
I wish i had that luck, I had to make my deck more lategame to deal with the infinite control magmar and vetruvian i was fighting and then when i did bump into songhai it was no longer a free win

>>123560575
You honestly should have answers to threats like that regardless of your faction. If you're caught without one than it's really just on you. Silithar Elder is a card that requires multiple removals or an already winning board to deal with. Ayylmao Healer, while strong, still only requires 1 removal to get rid of, even though it still gives its life swing. Lyonar don't really have that one big fat minion that just changes the next 2/3 turns in dealing with/recovering from the same way some of the other factions do.

>>123561649
The closest they have is actually a fucking nuetral. The archon because it forces you to pay extra for your removal and its still vastly threatening when silenced thanks to divine bond

>>123562556
Yeah but that Archon is just gross, it's too big for its mana cost and its effect screws a good curve. The curve screw is part of the card so that's really just fine, but it does NOT need to be 7/9 for how much mana it is. It would be very comfortable at a 6/6

>>123563759
Archon isnt even used, the only time ive ever seen it is in lyonar.

>>123563957
The best magmar control players run it in their list. Dresbo and the winner of the last tournament

>>123563957
>never used
>only see it in lyonar

Then you have not been paying close enough attention it seems.

>>123565313
Not at tournaments, only ladder.

>face 3 mechaz0r decks of different factions past rank 3
>add second crossbones
>don't draw any in the next 2 matches resulting in loss
FUCK THE RNG.

>>123565575
>another mechaz0r, this time vetruvian
I'm adding a third crossbones. This is unbelievable.

>>123565717
>not playing magmar
mechazor is l i t e r a l l y free wins

>>123550490
if only lyonar had a big ass unit with a ton of life that they could reliably put next to enemy generals and prevent the latter from walking away
hmmm

>>123565994
>he doesnt have removal

stop playing songhai, faggot

>>123565932
>2 legos, 1 epic and 1 rare with the gold I got from playing on ranks 3-4
At least I got a lot of spirit from this madness.
Also, ayamaras vs shadowcreep is like pissing on a thorny rose.

>>123566163
you literally need to keep lyonars board clean 100% of the time because they can just divine bond something else and hit you for 14+

>>123566416
because everything has 10 health.

Its a 3/10. Use your units to hit the fucking thing even if it doesnt kill it so divine bond doesnt destroy you

>>123566416
just ironcliffe
anything else is much less efficient in terms of mana and cards
>>123566163
everything dies to some kind of removal so that's a moot point
also fyi songhai has panda form as hard removal

>>123566582
>he just drips sundrop elixir on that thing
>or better yet holy immolation
>divine bond for 13
:^)
It's enough to remove Airdrop to balance that thing.

>>123566679
>complaining about multicard combo
>specifically a combo that requires setup

Yeah that 13 damage over 2 turns really outshines 17 damage third wish and stars fury

>>123566948
Everyone agrees vetkeks need a nerf though

>>123566679
he's been holding those dead cards in his hand for five turns
meanwhile you've somehow not established board control, haven't managed to kill him and are at less than 13 life

>>123566948
How to prevent SF+TW: if you think your opponent will kill you with it arrange your minions and your general into a straight line.

How to prevent Ironcliffe + Immolation: N/A
How to prevent Ironcliffe + Divine Bond: sack all of your minions into it to kill/damage it, or completely remove it the next turn. If you fail to do the latter, you're most likely dead.

>>123567151
>How to prevent SF+TW: if you think your opponent will kill you with it arrange your minions and your general into a straight line.
gratz you got your shit blasted
>How to prevent Ironcliffe + Immolation
9 mana combo to do 4 damage
in a box
>How to prevent Ironcliffe + Divine Bond
kill a single minion

>>123567040
and magmar needs nerfs before lyonar

>>123567151
Even in a straight line if vetruvian has one unit on the board he can do the exact same damage has ironcliffe divine bond with just the one stars fury minion

>complaining about a 9 mana 4 damage combo

>you can still fuck up the client by dragging an open browser window by the URL into the game
>>123567347
>hurr blast
You're expected to have dealt with that before.

>>123567530
>You're expected to have dealt with that before.
the same could be said about ironcliffe

>>123567661
That's the point. If you don't remove it the next turn you're dead. You either sacrifice whatever board you have thus losing board control, or rely on luck
of having a hard removal spell in hand.
In the case of SF+TW you eliminate as many possible spawn tiles as you can and can actually affect the outcome.

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>>123567151
>wow, why don't you just line up all your shit against the blast faction, ez counter!

>>123568274
>wow, why don't you do anything against an airdrop 3/10 with game over next turn
Oh wait, there's nothing you can do.
I'm for removing airdrop on that thing. I don't care if it stays a 3/10.

>>123568767
it should literally never be game over next turn
all you have to do is deal X damage to it, such that
(10-x) + 3 < [Your Health]

which is fucking easy as shit

NEW SEASON CARDS WHEN

>>123568919
>literally get almost all of your minions killed or at low hp to get rid of a 10 hp minion
>completely losing board control in the process

>Breath of the Unborn
>4 mana
>Deal 3 damage to all enemies, each enemy minion killed heals your general for 1 hp

Overpowered or no?

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>>123560303
>mfw I play a ping/spell focused deck
>mfw people think I'm playing backstab and take as much distance as posible
>mfw I drop my nigga Four winds magi and equip bloodrage masks and my enemy realizes how wrong he was

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>>123570397
>take two steps forward
>see backstab, take two steps back
>amass army on the other side
>getting burned
>3 rejuvs, 3 2/3 heals 2
>equips bloodrage masks
>rashims curse into third wish for the burst out of nowhere
>mfw

>>123570315
>another tempest
Maybe fuck off

>>123571278
>Rasha's for 5 damage
>burst
Wew lad, you just took one of my masks.

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>>123568274
>wow, this 2/1 is super hard to deal with
>wow, this blast on general, the thing im hitting anyway and only has 2 attack
>wow, I dont save my silence for portal guardians and scarabs

It's like you want to be stuck in gold.

>>123569948
>>123568767
>>123567815
how fucking shit are the minions you're playing
what fucking deck are you even playing

>>123571529
My early game is <2 turns life expectancy Pyromancers, Dispelled Portal Guardians and 2/3s like Primus Fist and Mystic.

>>123571395
>implying I dont have more than one
>implying you can even deal with the stuff coming at you while burning me out at the same time
>implying you dont just take 25+ damage the moment the wave of minions hits you due to third wish

>>123571659
what's your midgame
ironcliffe is 5 mana
where is etropic decay

>>123571847
I run 2. More often than not I only have dispels in my hand which don't help against the combo.

>>123571659
so how are you losing
>low on cards because he's using removal on pyros
>lower on cards and tempo because he's silencing portal guardian
>primus fist buffs should be pummeling him
>mystics should keep you topped off so combo doesn't come close to killing you
>>123572021
>silence ironcliffe
>walk away
>spawn a minion between you

I started a couple of days ago and got lucky as fuck and pulled a Hexblade. Is it any good or is it just free dust? Additionally, what can a scrub like me craft/play that gets my sorry ass out of bronze? Songhai and Vetruvian interest me most right now.

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Apparently these cards can ride you to Diamond.

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Post game-winning opening hands.

>>123572872
Avoid Lyonar and Magmar, possibly Songhai as they're probably gonna be nerfed some time soon.
Although take my word with a fuckton of salt cuz i'm salty as fuck with these factions.

>>123572872
If youre having trouble breaking bronze i dont know what to tell you, its easy to hit gold with basics cards and the inevitable good stuff you pick up from the many packs you get

avoid vetruvian though, theyre the strongest faction but only when they have 10 legendaries

>>123573691
Were you the songhai I just fed the two wins to as abyssian?

>>123574908
Yes.

>>123574814
>tfw straddling around silver

>>123575159
>tfw getting a fellow /dyg/ player into diamond
best feel

>>123574053
>6 cards
>opening hand

Isn't it a mechanic in every duel card games that the second to move gets to draw one additional card?
Why isn't duelyst like that? If you play second you literally have to pray to rngeesus to get the good cards out fast.

>>123576241
It's a new game mode called Hexa only available to Kickstarter backers right now. It's basically draw until you have 6 cards Ranked.

>>123576486
Here it's about being closer to the mana orbs.

>>123576486
>>123576639
also starting at 4 mana

>>123576904
No. FIrst to go has 2, the second has 3.

>>123576904
It's only potentially four. You can't drop any 4 mana minions.

>>123577034
>>123577107
oops brainfart
but he got my point

>>123577107
>Flash Reinicarnation + Veteran Silithar + Healing mystic
Feels so good.

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>mfw fagzilla shits out an Elder within my general's reach
>mind control it and blast away his egg
>had to waste 2 cards to remove it

>>123577660
>after that you still lose

>>123577724
No, actually. But he was pretty close. He had a choice to either Makantor me and threaten lethal or my Pyromancer 2 tiles away. He chose to go face. I cast SF and Rasha's to win.

>>123577923
>SF and Rasha's
ebin :-DDDd

>>123577923
>cast outplay fury and curse of the outplay
simply outskilled

>>123578004
My mulligan RNGesus abandoned me as soon as I went into rank 3.

>>123578108
>Still being rank 3 with le ebin 2 card combo

Seriously though, there's no reason you shouldn't be S if you have even half the pieces for P2Wintruvian.

>>123578506
I have all of them, except 3rd TW. I'm struggling with putting together a perfect dick that won't completely crumble when I get shit draws.

>>123578645
It sounds like your play and deckbuilding both need work. You should be waltzing into S.

>>123574814
>tfw playing songhai now
>tfw burning niggas with my artifacts repeatedly
HYPE AS FUCK

>>123580528
Songhai is balanced

>>123580698
>empyreal shroud

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I need /dyg/'s help to make a decent vet deck.
Here are my cards. I highlighted relevant ones' amount.

Most people tell me to add Artifacts and silhouette tracers, but I can't play with Blast General for shit: I go out of my way to preserve the charges and lose board control.

>>123580829
I haven't really seen anyone run BlueDog past silver.

>>123581045
3 crossbones, 3 tracers seem much
mana forger and Zen'rui without blindscorch seem iffy
but that's my opinion as someone who doesn't play Vet

>>123581560
Blindscorch is a starting card so I have 3.

What's with gold being such trash tonight
Playing Vanar and havent lost a single game yet, not even against smegmars or vets

>>123581045
you got all those epics and legendaries and you struggle to make a deck?

Holy shit you suck

>>123581661
but not in the deck?

>>123581998
Nigga I can't get to S-Rank. I'm pretty fine floating around 3-4 in Diamond.

>>123581998
I'm in the same rank with 1 stars fury and no third wishes, kill yourself.

>>123582278
>>123582138

>>123581045
jesus christ use duelystdb.com I ain't looking at that shit and I play Vet in S-rank

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>>123582824
Here's what I've been using so far.

>>123583282
Variables are 1 crossbones, 1 mystic and 1-2 Rasha's Curse.

>>123583282
-1 dispel or shroud
other than that looks good, you just need to play better

>>123583636
It all depends on replace/draw RNG. Most of the time I shit on backstab songays, mirrors, Shadowcreep Abyssians, Vanars and Lyonars. Fagmar control is a struggle because it's impossible to gain an initiative, apart from throwing all your threats away only for them not only to remove them, but shit out their own threats in the meanwhile.
I lose to all of the above if my early game is shit. Take Mirror, for instance: if they get a pyromancer and I don't have any dispels or early game of my own, I instalose.

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>>123583282
For future reference, you outta use the regular squad image since that one has a tendency to cut spells off

Why only 1 First Wish?
Obelysks suck you can easily drop them
Two crossbones seems like a bit much but I guess if you're seeing a shit ton of Mekaz0r then it's fine. Just keep an eye out on your MUs.
Bone Swarm is really mediocre, I think.
2 Entropic might be a bit much. I run it as a one-of just for Lyonar so it depends on how often you see Ironcliffs hit the board.
I've shyed away from using Pryomancers. They're very effective when they stick but they very rarely stick and it's just too big of a tempo loss if they don't. Too risky. If you're not getting them fucked immediately then it's fine, though.
Really overall it looks fine. A lot of cards in there I can see your justification for even if I don't necessarily agree with them.

What I'm currently running in S-rank

>>123584175
I feel like rock pulversizer is super underrated

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>>123584332
He's pretty known for being strong. Even called Rocky Balboa by a lot of the community.

>Replace quest for faction I don't want to play with
>Get a quest for faction I don't like to play with
Fuck Vetruvian

I wouldn't know because I dont play Vet, but is it viable to base the deck entirely around swarming the field every turn using a shitton of obelysks? Or is it just not worth it?

>>123588020
I tried one like that, missing pay2win cards tho
It worked fine in silver but probably cant get past gold

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I'll take it

I play Cryonar

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>songay
>songay
>songay
>songay

Good ladder overall desu senpai

>>123588334
do you mean
>fagmar
>fagmar
>fagmar
>fagmar
>vetkek
>vetkek
>vetkek
>vetkek

>>123588906
I'm in gold so these fucks are the most common, I think all the shit vets and mags are in silver and good ones are dia+

>>123588965
>yfw I was a songay mechfuccboi up to rank 5
and now is trully fagmar and vetkeks :(

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>win vetkeks, smegmars and songays
>lose to abysshits because of shit draws

>>123581271

I haven't seen a vanar deck without it even well into plat

Which of the starter decks are strongest for ladder play?

>>123573691

It's funny, I was just starting to play around with Arcanyst Songhai and Arcanyst Lyonar

>>123590839
Abyssian probably

>>123590839
Magmar or lyonar

>literally impossible to deal with abyssian unit spam with the other starter decks

>>123595397
Lyonar - Tempest
Songhai - Ghost Lightning
Magmar - Plasma Storm

>>123595769
>>Lyonar - Tempest
>>Songhai - Ghost Lightning
>>Magmar - Plasma Storm
>starter deck

>>123595769
Don't know about Plasma Storm, but the other two don't show up in the start deck until you're like level 8+

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what should i change?

i don't have any aymaras, scions third, or more of anything at x2

there's also 2 blast scarabs i was too lazy to include in the screenshot, and i've got 3 spaces left

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>no idea how to build a proper deck
>all decks I've built so far have given me nothing but losses, in bronze no less
>mfw

>>123596993
whats the point of maws?

>>123597409
i was having trouble dealing with opponent's 3 hp 2 drops early on resulting in my pyros/dervishes getting rushed and no breathing room for using my ankh

so i've been trying them since they trade positively most of the time

>>123597380

Show us your decks and we'll try to help.

>sick of losing to nothing but songays as vanar
>make aggro abysshit deck
>nothing but healyonars
>swap back to vanar
>nothing but songays

>>123600131
>playing UP classes

you are at fault

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>>123600041
Feast your eyes

>>123600814
Drop first sword first of all. Second, Flame Wing isn't all that good either

>>123600259
this tbqh myfam
if you're not playing magmar you should probably kill yourself

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>>123600814

>>123602693
Hey man, I told you I have no idea what Im doing

>>123600814
Darkspine, piercing mants,flamewing,firespitter,first sword all need to be discarded

>>123600814
what are you trying to go for? shadow creep deck? if you don't have shadow nova, don't bother

also remove these cards:

>Horn of the Forsaken (at least lower it to 1)
>Piercing Mantis
>Spectral Blade
>Fire Spitter
>Young Flamewing
>First Sword

idk what cards you have, so i can't really suggest you anything, but try adding: NightSorrow Assassins, Shadowdancers, Priestesses, Emerald Rejuvs, Mystics, abyss legos, etc etc.

>>123603231
>remove spectral blade

m8, i see multiple spectral blades at s-rank

>>123602792
Im playing this game for like.. 8 months? so when I started was even less info about the game, decks, and so on that now. and not even there I was this bad. just compare that with the most basic 4 mana unit aka Hailstone Golem. its just fucking common sense. you are that kind of people who need advice and guides to open a beer too?

>>123603334
Don't remove spectral blade, the rest of the list is right tho.

>>123603505

No need to be rude about if.

But yeah boss, FLamewing is really really bad

>>123603505
Well, at least I can formulate a proper sentence, so there's that, but hey, I'm glad you let me know how good you are at the game.

>>123603334
>>123603535
i'm really not a fan of artifacts

spectral's okay, but i think it's pretty disposable

When are they going to announce patch notes/new cards?

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>>123603505
>you are that kind of people who

>>123603856
week from now

Is it still worth playing arena if I can't consistently win more than twice?

>>123604058
not at all

>>123604058
Not really, maybe you should learn how to draft assuming you're not shit at the game.
It doesn't really take much to reach the 7 win treshold once you get a decent deck and one of the 3 best Gauntlet factions (Magmar, Lyonar and Vanar)

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>tfw giving away free wins in diamond to level factions for boosters

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>>123603892
>>123603785
>anon points out how retarded someone is
>attack his grammar
top lmao guys, never change
I made it to gold with Vanar with common sense and a week of playing this game few hours a day, it's not so fucking hard

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>>123605135
>anon points out how retarded someone is
>other anons point out how retarded he is

rules of nature

and there are people who've made it to S rank within 3 days of playing, why couldn't you?

it's like maybe not everyone is the same and attacking someone for their shortcomings when they're asking for help is kind of a shit thing to do

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>>123605539
Never said I'm not retarded
I consider myself one of the most retarded people that I know
There's a reason I waste my friday night playing f2p trash instead of doing actually productive things

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>>123605135
>tfw made it to 0 in a week with lyonar
Vanar are so shit

>>123605658
Ya senpai I agree, too bad I aint got the cards for vet which is the appealing OP faction for me

>>123603898
Shouldnt it be at the end of the season?

>>123605868
the cards wont come with any new patch notes. They said theyre doing patches every 2 weeks now and the last patch was 11/19

>>123603785
>>123603892
english is not my language, but I lived in UK for almost 2 years, no problems at all. learning my 5th language now, you? also rank 0 at summer. tell me how is life being a -90 IQ, cause thats the only reason to put a flamewing on that deck. if you dont want to get call this hard, shut the fuck up when someone superior than you is talking.

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>>123605658
>made it to 0 in 3 days playing vet
>didnt pay money

Don't start to feel too special now, chumps.

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>all these mechaz0r scrubs in diamond

>>123606541
>being this insecure
Wow what a total fag

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>>123606541
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_complex

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>>123606541
holy shit nigga calm down, pure autism display going on right now

>>123605981
ok, thx

>>123606675
>>123606783
>>123606786
>being bronze
>at life too

love it. (:

>>123607264
Ouch, you sure told us.

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>>123607264
holy fuck

it's this guy all over again

>>123607957
>he got pwnd on RNGstone too

brutal.

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>>123607957
I refuse to believe that there are people this stupid.
I have a friend that adds people to shittalk them after he wins in a HS match, and I already find that incredibly moronic.

>>123607957
funny little story: blizzard added "Roach Boy" in the wheel when you're trying to find a match.

>>123607957
>smiley after every sentence

its almost like im on 4chan

>>123606541

i want poles to leave england

Grinding factions to level 10 to get the orbs is suffering

>>123612784
its actually level 11

Bump for the fair and balanced magmar

>game pop up
>oponent connecting

YES YES A FREE WIN GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW

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>there are people in this thread right now who don't play arcanysts

>>123618601
>being 9 months late

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>winning S-fags with better decks than you with your shitty songay mechdeck

why arent you this gud /dyg/

>>123620476
>claiming its skill playing with a mechazor deck
kill yourself please

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>>123620807
>le very mad p2w g4m3r being pwnd by a 1/4 spirit mech deck

dont worry, already lost against a really highly skilled deck: fagmar elder spam

Why are people so insecure about their ranks and enemy ribbons? is that the /dyg/ meme?

>>123622482
>is that the /dyg/ meme?
No, this happens with every game /vg/ plays, that involve ranks and ladder play.

>>123622482
Everyone has a need to express his opinion about the game and your opinion is irrelevant if you are below s-rank.

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ebin

>>123622482
>insecure

you wot? a few months ago, I got rank 3 by just doing dailies with self made unfinished funny decks, then I got to rank 0 with a shitty cheap abyssian agro deck (less than 1k spirit) and an unfinished vetruvian one (only 1 SF, 1 3rd wish, 0 frenzy guardians, etc)

if you play against a S-rank with 5 ribbons, a few of them being ^2-3, at least you know you are playing vs a veteran player, prob with perfect deck and good knowledge of the game. and its just that.

>>123622775
It really is? that's a fucking shame.
I mean look at guys like this >>123623098. What's the fucking point? people have been playing this game since alpha, of course it's gonna be alot of experience and good decks.
Even worse, if they lose against them

>lol this p2w fag just shat a lot of legendaries

and if they win against them

>Fucking p2w 6 ribbons ebin fags I was just playing a starter deck in diamond for dailies

>>123623448
it's just a joke man.

Looking for someone to level up my account to at least diamond rank, reply if interested.

How likely is it that that game will be dead in a year? I can't help but get that vibe from it and idk if I want to invest a lot of time in it

>>123624047
Don't you have to be in Ranked to level up?

>>123624047
That's easy as shit

>>123624047
what are you offering in return faggot

>>123624146
It is guaranteed to be dead within a year.

Unless they find a way to get marketing to rival blizzard's own, they'll just never get the kind of revenue they need to survive.

>>123624320
This.
They need to start putting resources towards marketing, Steam release isn't gonna be enough to make the game popular and it saddens me to no end because the game is really fun and the devs actually listen to player feedback.

>>123624262
Then prove it

>>123624212
You help play it for me b-boy

>>123624301
M-my email address

>>123625301
you're asking someone to climb you ranks for nothing in return?

that's pretty fucking cheap, fuck off

>>123625301
Tell me what ccards you have available and I might do it

Dual faction commanders WHEN?

>Have low end pc
>Turns feels like literal eons are passing by
>Hoping that enemy surrenders because of how long I take with 1.2 second mouse over delay.

>>123625301
I'd do it for money, probably able to get you there in like 3/4 days without knowing what you have.

>>123625301
you need to not pretend to stutter in your posts

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>Open 3 of the 5 Mechazor components in the past 24 hours, Chassis included
Is this a sign? Which class is best with Mechazor?

>>123632308
they're all shit and mechazor is shit

>>123632943
>being this buttblasted by dem mechs

>>123632308
songhai or abyssian

>>123633098
not mad, they're free wins for me :^)

>>123605658
dat banana...

>tfw got to diamond
>tfw don't want to grind the chevrons to 0
This game needs more quests

>>123635992
>get to diamond
>can't even get to Rank 4

>>123636886
Shut up don't make me do it

>>123637069
I meant I can't get to Rank 4. I wasn't challenging you, sempai

Is Winterblade decent at all?

How do we fix the game?
Do we have to nerf Lyonar, Magmar and possibly Vetruvian?
Or do we have to buff Abyssian and Vanar?

Fuck Songhai.

>>123606541
>this fucking guy

>>123638213
We balance everything to Vanar levels since it's the only sane faction

>Turn 1 drop gorehorn
>Enemy Lyonar tempest
>Turn 2 drop gorehorn
>Enemy lyonar tempest + Sunny D
>Turn 3 drop Foxy
>Enemy lyonar plays a taunt
>buff foxy to 9 damage x2 out of taunt range

K E K

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>>123623648
It's a just a prank bro

Dead game, dead general.

I hope the artist gets some work somewhere else when this company folds.

>>123600814
You'll honestly just plain have to start from scratch. There's no cohesive strategy here and it's packed with worthless creatures.
Hell, even creep decks tend to not run the creep creatures a lot of the time.

So what kind of Abyssian are you even looking to build? Something aggressive? Shadow creep?

>>123646841
I seriously hope you mean the pixel artist.

>>123636886
I can't either. Vanar doesn't work here and my other decks are shit

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Scrub here, what is the pick?

Anyone have OST dump?

>>123650661
I'd go with decimate, first guy seems too slow, maybe I'm mistaken, and I'm not so sure about consistetly getting the second guy to trigger, and without the effect it's very expensive small body. Decimate shoud consistently llow you to cler a bunch of enemy minions. lthough you do have a bunch of ranged which could you up
I'm not experienced with lyonr at all though

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>Songhai mechazor tard emotes me whole game because he gets good start
>Gets crossboned

Is there a better feeling?

>>123655843
A better feeling is crossboning 2 mechaz0rs in one game.

Now I want to try a 2x Hexblade + Auroras Tears Vetruvian. Will 2 dusted legos as well as whatever I get in Diamond rewards cover the costs if I don't have either?

>>123656046
The only way this is at all possible is with Mirage Master, you faggot. You can't spawn more than one Mechaz0r per game.

Though now I want to make this a deck.

>>123656392
Auroras Tears used to be used when artifact Vet wasn't nerfed to shit. Back then they didn't really bother with Hexblade though which makes me wonder how it works.

I feel Hexblade isn't really worth the deck space until it brings shit down to 0 attack. Having your durability knocked off no matter what leaves it rather questionable to run.

>>123656604
The fuck are you talking about? I clearly did see a second Mechaz0r after I removed one's parts and the thing itself. Either that or I'm imagining things.

>>123656692
I was thinking of Hexblade as a damage boost for the combo, with ankhs and staves as well. Aurora's Tears seems so powerful if you manage to retain artifacts for long enough.

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WAOW again
WHERE ARE MY GOOD LEGENDARIES?

>>123656695
You're imagining things. Unless they changed it just this patch Mechaz0r can only be summoned once per player.

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>>123657393
>eggus
>not good

>realize I forgot to add Crossbones in a new deck
>face songay mechaz0r in diamond
>still won by going face and SF+TW
victoryismine.jpg

>>123658204
Wasting a turn to summon four 0/1's looks like a huge waste of tempo, especially considering that my Magmar deck is fairly aggressive. I already have 2, but doubt I will use them any time soon.

Maybe if they have money left over when it comes out of beta, they can use the rest for marketing? When do we leave beta, anyway?

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>>123655843
>Enemy Songhai gets out Mechazor and thinks that I'm one off lethal
>Suicide my dudes into him and finish him off with a mana burn.

>>123658204
Eggs are garbage. The MASSIVE tempo loss isn't worth the tiny chance you get a 4-mana Elder in two turns. Especially not when you can just get a 5 mana Elder with two cards.

>>123659414
>fagzilla proud of an OP card
It shouldn't be able to damage Generals ffs how did it even make it into the game.

Let me see if this is right:
Cards that take time to build up are trash. Therefore if I get one of them I should turn it into spirit.

>>123659808
if you're talking about chrysalis burst then yes. It's garbage.

>>123660170
What about cards with grow or some variant?

>>123660228
strictly worse than their rebirth counterparts

>>123660228
There's nothing necessarily wrong with the mechanic, but Earth Walker is bad, and Grimrock and Kolossus are more budget creatures than anything. You out-grow them once your collection is built up.

Of course in gauntlet they're amazing.

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Naentar has 9 Ribbons. It means he has more than 900 wins, that's as many as nine hundreds. And that's terrible.

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>>123662536
That didn't help him.

>>123662735
Also, thanks to >>123596993 for the idea to use Maws as annoyance/favorable trades and cheap Portal Guardian buffs. They've been doing wonders for me.

>>123650661
lol if you take anything other than nemesis you are a retard

>>123662735
>p2winvian bragging about winning
Kill yourself my man

>>123658204
Eggs are fucking awful heaven eclipse is good though

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>>123659530
Because the fun of others is my primary form of sustenance

>>123663363
Haven't spent a single cent on the game. I got everything from sacrificing other factions' cards and sarlac nerf.

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Considering my drops I decided to go abyssian, but is there something I should get before trying to get more spectral revenants? What do I even replace for them?

I also have metamorphosis and voice of the wind, I may make vanar and magmar decks someday.

>>123663363
Do people who lose to rares/epics/legends somehow feel better about losing if they call themselves poor?

>>123664452
>>123663790

It's the strongest deck in the game, you should be winning.

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>>123662536
>900 Songhai wins
>Literally only plays Songhai
I can't bring myself to only ever play one faction. That shit gets boring.

>>123664902
Decklist for strongest deck in the game?

>>123665887
3x third wish
3x stars fury
3x portal guardian

>>123667176
and Ayylmao Healers

Is it normal to lose almost all games starting out or am I doing something wrong?

t. rank 27 bronze

Also do you get cards from single player?

Is there an informative youtuber or streamer for Duelyst? As a new player, I am just curious.

>>123668714
No youre just bad

you get gold from doing challenges, doing all the challenges should get you enough gold for 6-7 packs

Complete all puzzles to get enough gold for a few orbs.
Leveling up all factions to 11 with starting/homemade decks will get you 1 orb for each faction.

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>>123668824
Nope, youll actually have to play the free videogame

>>123668824
There's a few Youtubers who play, but I don't think Duelyst has taken off in the streamer space yet.

>>123668824
Play the game, I have zero experience with hearthstone and I've made it to diamond in 2 weeks barely playing

>>123601013
>>123602693
>>123603140
>>123603231

Why the hate for flame wings? Late game you can just summon them away from the battle and then next turn airdrop them onto enemy commander for 10.

4/5 card imo.

I just started playing this game and the first booster pack I opened had an EPIC card on it

Am I a good player or what?

>>123669347
Sorry forgot my t. Bronze Buddy

>>123669347
>4 mana for a card that you cant play aggressively and is efficiently dealt with by all damage spells in the game

yeah no. It doesnt trade favorably with the -good- 4 drop people use, the hailstone golem. And face damage is worthless unless youre speciically playing a burn/aggro deck. And then 4 mana is suddenly the most expensive card you have and it needs a turn to sit on the board to do something

>>123669528
I got two legends (rook and mask of shadows) in my second pack. I don't think anything is super rare.

>>123669779
Now I just won my first game

Songhai weeb samurais confirmed overpowered

>>123669779
>>123670861
Enjoy it while it lasts. Newbies gets more legendaries and cards, as soon as you settle down you will only get a legendary every ten boosters at best and mostly everthing tht you will open will have 4 commons and one rare. Whoever said that this wasn't like hearthstone was lying, it's a little better but not that much.

>3 wins till S-Rank
Wish me luck.

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Post comfy ladder music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoO_dK6PEoo

>>123673614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgfGC1CjNfI
Hanatan is my utaitefu

>>123672951
Pretty sure that's a lie. I've been playing for two months and just opened a pack that had two Legos and two epics. It's just rng

>>123664414
If I'm not getting feedback, does that mean I at least haven't gone full retard?

>>123674721
Its probably because there aren't that many good legos yet. Plus the legos everyone needs is almost always in their faction.

>>123675225
Abyssian only works if it's a Rush deck with warlocks and shit, or a shadowcreep deck if your opponent can't kill you before turns 7/8.

>>123675251
This game is way more generous with crafting than hearthstone is. Also, grinding gold is a lot easier too.

>>123673614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YQ5le2S3NM

>>123675446
Shadowcreep is honestly trash. You die too fast against aggro and archons shut you down so hard you lose to any control deck smart enough to use them

>>123675446
My abyssian deck is a rush heal type.
It's a 50/50 win when you get to gold.

>>123677078
>50% win rate
L m a o

>mirror match
>opponent has shit minions
>don't draw heals
>don't draw threats/dispel bait
>don't draw enough removal
Just let me through Rank 1 I'm 4 wins away goddamit.

>>123677078
>>123678437
>gold
L M A O

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I'd like to take a moment to thank you /dyg/
All your retarded memes got me to diamond in a week and f2p
>not lining up against vetkeks
>spamming board against fagmar
And many other quality memes, especially S O L I T A I R E

>the card you need the most comes when you end your turn

wonderful

>>123679590
>replace card
>get card you need
>win game
Thank you based statistics

>>123679590
>>123680659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5-rdr0qhWk

>>123679478
>he's proud of diamond
L M A O
M
A
O

>>123683039
I think it's pretty decent for f2p vanar desu
On my fast track to the S-meme

Red Synja or Aspect of the Mountains in Gauntlet?

Other choice is Gravity Well, but I don't think it measures up.

>>123686479
mountain aspect easy

how pay2win is this game

>>123687135
Not as much as HS apparently.

>>123687135
The strongest deck in the game belongs to one faction and requires a lot of legendaries but its not insurmountable to beat it.

That said you get a lot of gold and epic/legendaries are fairly common drops so youll be able to build whatever you want easily enough

>>123687135
>>123687530
I'd say the strongest two-drops are all commons, and two-drops make up the bulk of your force. Primus Fists, Healing Mystics, Rock Pulverizer, Young Silithar, Gloomchaser, Windblade Adept, Pyromancer, etc.

Then a lot of really commonly played cards aren't epic or legendaries. How often do you see Emerald Rejuvinators?

alright fags im signing up

anyone want to drop their referral code before i hit the signup button

>>123688041
Uh, x3 in evey control deck and x2 in midrange?

emerald rejuvinator is amazing

>>123688158
Redditpals

>>123688263
Yes and he's rare. That's what I was saying.

>>123688158
god damn it read the OP next time.

>download game
>start tutorial
>sounds from league of legends
seriously?

>>123688517
>sounds from league of legends
what sound?

>>123688798
when you click on the commander and attack

>>123688893
and what sound is that in League?

>>123689034
team builder ready up sound

>Jax in p2Vetruvian
Why the fuck did nobody tell me to use it, Ive been losing all mirrors solely because of it.

Is Gravity Well a safe disenchant? I kinda want a third Silithar Elder.

>>123689348
I kinda just threw him in my Vet deck for lack of a third Aymara Healer. Does work, though.

>>123689104
>team builder ready up sound
what?
You mean champion lock in sound?
Because it sounds nothing like that

>>123689530
If you never plan to run Vanar, Gravity well can be tossed.
If you do, Gravity Well is a card that can force your opponent to use dispels or board clears, while severely delaying their turns until they draw those.
Assuming you get your other walls as well.

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I really wish this game had a casual play queue so that I could level up factions and get their basics without having to worry about rank.

>>123673614
https://youtu.be/TeftM83ljFc

>>123673614
>comfy ladder music
Gotta get in the right mindset bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYaQgp8DFCk

ARCHON NERF FUCKING WHEN? WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THOSE STATS ARE FAIR FOR SUCH A LOW FUCKING COST? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

>>123690038
bronze is like a casual queue since you can't lose ranks. silver is basically the same thing since everyone is just as new as you

>>123690763
Do you lose rank when you get beyond Bronze?

>>123691032
yes, except for rank 20 (you can't go back a bracket once you reach it), but silver is the best opportunity to learn

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>>123691269
Cool, thanks

>>123690460
>songay babby mad
L e l

>>123690038
Ladder resets in two days, just screw around now and maybe later when it gets reset

>>123690038
>hes not s-rank

Is everything past diamond songhai territory? I swear at least 4/5 players are using them

>>123691801
You play that against ANYONE and it's a guaranteed 2/3 for 1.

Are there any classes that do mechaz0r or arcanyst poorly?

>>123691032
You can't be demoted from each ranked tier, so you can't fall below 20, 10, 5, 0

>>123692374
Lyonar, Fagzilla control and mechaz0r whatever is what I'm seeing.

>>123673614
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-ChItZ8gRM

I got my first legendary "Chrysalls Burst". Is it any good?

>>123693971
Nope

>>123694657
Never am I ever fucking lucky

What's the Dr. Boom of this game?

>>123694776
Archon Spellbinder for neutrals, the rest are class cards.

>>123694776
There is none. Emerald Rejuvinator is probably the most used neutral, though, and it's a rare.

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>>123691907
>>123690763
I was going to see if I could powerball my way to gold. I started playing about two weeks ago but never really cracked down until now, I've only played about 15 games and won twelve I think. I should have started playing more sooner but DESPAIR and whatnot. I guess I'll just nut up and try to unlock stuff, it's free gold and packs anyway.

>transformed minions are instantly active
balanced :^)

>2 wins away from S-Rank
>drop down to 3 in one streak

Is this game fun with friends or are you required to play without them to get the majority of the content

>>123696603
Playing with friends doesn't reward you with anything. You need to grind ranked to get cards. Or buy them