/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

Who's better Maria or Doll?

>>123540871
Yes.

>>123540742
>>123540815

I'm a confederate not a linguist.

The fight started as I was typing it, f-forgive me

>>123540871
doll

im surprised waifufags arent waifu'ing her more than fucking kos

also hey luci
where should i farm echoes at

>>123540871
Doll.
Welcome home, good hunter gets me comfy.

there's no excuse they ever made NPC hunters more annoying than some bosses in this fucking game.

>>123540871
Don't they have the same VA? Is she just Doll?
They are one in the same.

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So Gratia's Fist doesn't parry? I'm not just bad at timing? It's actually just a "press L2 to deal damage and stagger" thing?

>>123541132
>It's actually just a "press L2 to deal damage and stagger" thing?
yes

>>123540923
>where should i farm echoes at

If you are at the start of the game then Cathedral ward.

Mid game with crap gems, then brain dolls in Mensis.

Have at least 3 18.8% gems, then the lower chalices.

>>123541018
Doll was based on Maria, but with more waifu and less fem-nazi.

Anybody wanna help me with Laurence? Level 77 password is bbg539 will be ringing by the fog gate.

>>123541132
Yeah
I hate it
They gave it a running attack, a dash attack, a backstep attack, but no combos and no charged r2

Why

>>123541315
>and less fem-nazi.

the fuck does this even mean?

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Where do you find cursed sharp? i know it exist thanks to this picture.

>>123541018

She pretty clearly answers the question of who the doll was modeled after. Maria was one of Gehrman's disciples. The question is, why make a doll that looks like her when she wasn't some tender waifu but a skilled and vicious hunter, who went on to run a horror-science clocktower of madness?

Are Scaling Gems a good now? I'd love for the Cane to do more Skill damage

>>123541479
Sharp is ass compared to Heavy and nowhere near as good, or an upgrade over 27.2%.
STR and ARC scaling only.

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>mfw I just realized the Orphan is swinging around the placenta as a weapon.

This realization hasn't made me any better though.

>>123541495
She was skilled and vicious hunter and also a tender waifu.

>>123541132
they would be awsome if they could be used for parry.
Shame on from

where's a good spot for some twin blood shards

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>>123541226
>>123541378

That's incredibly disappointing.

>>123541592

Yeah, I'm actually not sure what use it's supposed to be without that functionality, I have mainhand weapons for dealing damage with. They let the Augur do parries and not this? Ugh.

>>123541616
Rushing through Hunter's Nightmare
Yaragul Chapel
Hemwick

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>>123541563
>this image size
what the fuck

>summon someone for logarius
>beast claws with bolt paper hunter
>they proceed to facefuck him and pin him to a wall
>he dies without even going into hyper mode
What the fuck.

>>123541132
>>123541592
If you could parry with it, it would literally render the gun useless for a lot of people, and drastically change a core gameplay element.

So two lore questions going out:

Hunter's Nightmare is the same thing as Micolash just with Maria being the host and the Great One doing the thing is Kos's Orphan right? That's why it parallels shit in her life yeah? But if her entire thing was that she was mad with Byrgenwerth fucking with the fish people why did she stay around long enough to be the one treating the patients they tried to turn into aliens based on their research? Wouldn't that have happened long after them fucking around with the fish people?

Secondly were the people of the fishing hamlet like literally fish people or is this an extension of the nightmare dimension distorting shit?

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>The Bloodletter assumes its true and terrifying form after it draws upon blood from the inner reaches of one's body and soul.
>This is the only effective means of expelling tainted blood

Tainted blood refers to vermin, parasites.
Thrusting the Bloodletter in crushes the ones in your chest.
The Bloodletting Beast is covered in head and back wounds.
It was trying to kill the parasite inside it.
It failed.

>>123541547
fucking hell. So they only buffed arc and str? sucks.

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>>123541693
>summon/summoned to someone using some funky DLC weapons
>expect them to be good
>they're not

EVERY TIME

>>123541729
>The Bloodletting Beast is covered in head and back wounds.
>It was trying to kill the parasite inside it.

I litearlly now just realized why the fuck the bloodletting beast has a giant worm thing inside it god I am retarded.

>>123541726

I don't know about that first one, but I'd guess that the fish people were literally fish people, yeah. They were fucking around (literally it would seem) with Kos's corpse, who's a great one, so I would guess that they all started to change as a result, yes.

>>123541684
It's for the truly supreme moments.

Good SKL build for 98 PVP?

>>123541495
She clearly had many fans. All the patients of the research hall love her and she was appalled and ashamed of what happened to the Kos neighbors to fuck off into the nightmare realm.

All signs point to her being a kind enough person despite being a flame vampire bitch.

I mean fuck she and Gehrman are like the two bosses who ever acknowledge they don't completely want you dead the second you go near them. She even lets you go to have a proper fight with her instead of just killing you right out.

>>123541495

She can both you know.

>spend a night slaughtering vicious beasts
>come home, wash up and snuggle with Gehrman as you watch the sun rise

>>123541729
>tfw you kill the bloodletting beast with the bloodletter
And in the end we are all satisfied...And you are set free.

So, say I don't care too much about new weapons and shit, and care more just about the more.. "progressional" type of content.
Is the DLC worth it, is it very long, is there a good amount of new areas and enemies?

>>123541970

Yea, DLC is a good overall PVE challenge

>>123541970
>>123542002

It's got some great Souls-style storytelling in it too.

If only it was possible to get Ludwig's head to take the place of the doll. Just imagine going back to the dream with a horse head in place of the doll saying

>"Ahhh, hunter of the dream! What is it you require? neighehehehehehegh"
>"I have the most intimate feeling for you kind hunter. neigheheheheheheheheh"

FROM PLS

>>123541970
I got a good 7 hours of content out of it on the first character I did it with; definitely worth it. The weapons are all great, the areas are well designed and distinct, and the bosses are entertaining and fun to coop.

>>123541840
Follow up to that then.

Did Kos literally just wash up on the shore? How?

I mean I get that the parasites inside her killed her and she was dead by the time she was "over here" but how the fuck did she get there in the first place?

You have the "from the earth" thing where the ancient civilizations brought over Great Ones and then buried them, the "from the moon/sky" thing where Mensis had to go all out with crazy ritual and mind powers to sort of break the gaps of reality, but the "from the sea" is literally just a dead Great One washing up in some fishing hamlet without the need for any crazy ritual or mass sacrifice.

Yeah there's no hard rule on you summoning your cthulu to your dimension but the first two clearly required some form of mysticism and ritual to get that done.

>>123542073
>can't take him back to be comfy with the NPC's in cathedral ward
from pls

>>123542073
>Would you ever think to love me? NEIGHGHEHEHEHEHE...Of course... I do love you

>>123541898
http://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7912
Use Church Pick too, probably in place of Rakuyo.
Beasthunter Saif if you like it.

>>123541970
It's a couple hours worth if you don't care about the gear and exploring and if you can beat the bosses relatively easily.

Honestly, I don't think it is worth the price unless the new weapons interest you.

I have a BL 110 build, but I was wondering, is it worth it just to push it to 120?

>summon for Laurence
>the summon dies five seconds into the fight

>>123542217
Yes. You'll still get plenty of activity in Mensis and DLC areas regardless.

>>123541132
it's for kos parasite humanform muscle wizard builds

Is Ludwig a beast ?

>>123541702
no it wouldnt cause you get it at a later point in the game and you cant run away and parry and it forces you to get close and personal.

Its would have been another alternative to the gun nothing more and nothing less

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>>123538095
>the exception is the JoJo R2 since it's a multi-hit attack

You mean the L2 one, right?

Anyway, do you guys think that for kos parasite it would be better to have +% or flat gems?

I'm inclined to believe flat gems should be better since what makes it shine is the WoG and according to your explanation it would benefit the most from flat gems, right?

Can anyone confirm?

>>123541730
no. there's one thing people always forget

STR and ARC scaling gems do not increase your visceral damage. people who switch from tempering to heavy lose visceral damage. SKL scaling gems, however, do increase visceral damage, since viscerals scale with SKL

so for a SKL build you actually get some additional value out of SKL scalings/tempering that an ARC build doesn't get. you get visceral 1-shots this way

>>123542217
Stop at 117 if you want to invade 98s.

Should I be upgrading Arcane if I want to use the MHS. I have 14 currently.

>>123542351
yeah, instead an ARC build parries, then unzips their 650 element AR saw and oneshots them

So does item Discovery help with farming blood gems and blood chunks in Chalice??

>>123542348
(same guy you responded to)
in my limited amount of testing replacing an 24.8%/+15 arc gem with a 9%/+70 arc gem honestly made little difference either way. that was actually the point of the test, to show that my AR could go up (by about 20) but my damage go down (by like 2). the effect on the L2 was similarly pretty soft

however, it's really hard to get %arc/+flat gems in all 3 shots. the radials are a nightmare to farm, easily one of the worst gems in the game, far worse than colds. and if you use %phys then you are losing out on like 20% damage.

so i wouldn't use flats unless i had %arc flats, and i wouldn't bother to farm those flats. but it may be that there's some hilarious apex to the L2 if you have 3 such gems, or that you could make like a twink build with low arc using flats

Considering DLC-SKL based weapons (Church Pick and Saif) I'd love to hear your favorite and opinions on said favorite /bbg/.

>>123542493
I see. Anyway, I just started doing chalices, currently opening the main ones first. How long did it took you to farm your best arcane gems? And how long did the "nightmare" flat ones take you aproximately? Dunno what to expect, never farmed gems before.

>>123542540
frankly they are 2 of the best new weapons. rakuyo is also a great weapon

i replaced my arcane saw with an arcane pick and i've had no desire to go back

>>all day helping fellow hunters on laurence
>99% die to his swipes

Just be patient guy's geez :(.

>>123542002
>>123542058
>>123542078
Sounds pretty good to me

>>123542196
>if you don't care about the gear and exploring and if you can beat the bosses relatively easily.
Well I very much do care about exploring and certainly won't be able to beat the bosses easily...

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>realize I've been fucking up my characters for some time now
>5:23:32 into a new one
I think I'm getting better at this.

Fugg Maria just killed me for the 5th time. I can get through phase 1 and 2 easily enough but she just destroys me in phase 3. Not even mad tho, this fight is amazing

Is Kos parasite actually okay? I have 50 arc but the damage looks awful.

>>123542636
You can help me out if you'd like, I'm at nvm someone joined, I'll ask later

>>123542687
Ryan Gosling?

>>123542748

Post your gems

>>123542687
you look like draco and harry had a kid like most fujoshits dream of

>>123542709
>Maria just killed me for the 5th time

Is that supposed to be a lot?

People really got complacent somewhere around Dark Souls 2, get gud is almost the official slogan of the game considering how often its said, its like you people forget what game you're playing, its not supposed to be done on the first few tries nigga.

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>tfw murdering hunters that are trying to free my Host

Feels so good, thank you to the anons that helped me with the gems

>>123542481
Does item discovery help me discover items /bbg/??

How do I breathe /bbg/????

>>123542820
None yet, just upgraded it to 6 and wondered if it was worth the effort of chunks.

>>123542602
imperfect flats (%phys) can be farmed very quickly from the right glyph. perfect flats (%arc) can take as much as 500+ brainsucker kills per radial. i only know one guy in /bbg/ who did it and he described it as the worst fucking thing in the entire game. i've killed several hundred and never seen one

cold abyssal radials, which are the best radials for parasite, come from pthumerian elder in the OP spreadsheet. i find pthumerian elder pretty easy and it's like 10-20 kills to get a good abyssal. if you savescum and know what you're doing i think it takes like an hour per abyssal, maybe 2 if you're unlucky. cold radials are super nice because they work for every element and are always really good, so you can use them on all your arcane weapons

decent arcane triangles drop all over isz. if you want a perfect arcane triangle (either from merciless watchers or ebrietas) it can take a while, but it's nowhere near as bad as brainsucker

gem farming for arcane builds is extensive but i honestly kind of find it comfy as long as you aren't trying to twink. if you're trying to twink it will be really hard

>>123542540

I like Saif and Rakuyo. Saif is the best with its engagement and disengagment trick attacks but the Rakuyo's spin to win attack is brilliant for pvp hit and run.

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>>123542748
it's the best weapon in the entire dlc

>>123542818
>>123542823
I just cover it with a mask anyway, as long as it looks human I'm happy. The stats are what I was referring to.

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>>123542748
Most of the attacks have like double multipliers on it, it hits far harder than it's AR.

>>123542828
Yea, true. Any tips on her third phase?

why does orphan kos look like a wrinkly old man

>>123542904
>tfw no brain sucker attack

>Level fucking 30
>Just trying to gather all the items
>Summon the old hunter to help me survive
>You were invaded bye the_omnitom
>Dual stunlock blades
>Popping blood vials like candy
I don't so much want to kill these people, as I want them not to be alive any longer.

>>123542748
the stat screen AR is the punch damage when you're in human form

the actual kinmode weapon has like a 2x multiplier on its basic attacks. with 300 AR i hit players for 350-400

it has an awesome moveset

>>123542932

Is that mean cold abyssal better than %arcane?

>>123542978
in my experience my cold abyssals beat arcane gems

the problem is that arcane radials and crescents fucking suck. the abyssals aren't "perfect" compared to a 27% gem but there's literally no way to get good arcane radials/crescents except an insanely lucky offshape drop

every good arcane elemental radial is some kind of bullshit nightmare farm (i'm talking 500-1000 kills) except for cold abyssals

Oh shit

Is Church Pick's double tap R2 after fully charged attack the new Kirk bait?

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>>123542862

If you have an arc build its definitely worth it.

>>123542970
>>123542904
>>123542932
Sounds great, thanks. Is there a specific version I should get, like Uncanny or Lost? Are there Uncanny or Lost versions of the dlc weapons?

>>123542863
Ok I didn't think it would be THAT bad to get a perfect flat. Definitely not gonna do it.

Guess I'm gonna go with the cold abyssal radials + triangles then. And yeah, I'm somewhat twinkish (level 66), but I'll do what I can.

Thanks for the detailed explanation man, you rock.

>>123542636
Asking again, he died while he was at 70%, I'm at lamp if you're still helping! pass bbg3

>>123543048
it made me kind of want to make a vicar amelia cosplay build

>>123543064
uncanny is the version with RRT which are the best slots. after you find the regular version you can buy the uncanny version at any shop inside the chalices

>>123542540
I've spent considerably more time with the saif than I have with the pick, so I guess bear that in mind. The saif has a wonderfully snappy moveset; the tf r1 and the utf transform both have the player jut forward rapidly. Combine that with wide sweeping attacks and you have a good way to catch dodgers and to inflict counter damage. The UTF also has very wide sweeping attacks, which allows for some cool positioning stuff. Tf kinda works like the utf saw cleaver or saw spear.

The tf church pick is very similar to tf burial blade, except moves come out more quickly, with slightly reduced reach, and at less stamina cost. Angles of attack are also less wonky (like the primary dash r1 on bb). I haven't spent too much time with the utf, nor have I run into pvpers who use it that much. Also, the church pick does primarily thrusting damage, so it can poop on kin.

Hope that helps.

>>123542970
Wait, does that mean pure arc bare fist is viable?

>>123543096
Didn't mean to put an exclamation mark, it's my stupid tablet.

>>123543064
uncanny since its double radial 1 triangle
there's a specific pthumeru dungeon glyph that has a shop with all the different versions of the dlc weapons, refer to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IjA3kjtjp8

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just had my first boss fight where I had 2 summons at the same time.


>tfw keeping maria staggered with blacksky while my conspirators set up backstabs

felt like I was playing monster hunter, shit was downright cooperative

>>123542348

> Byrgenwerth_finds_Kos.jpeg

>>123543164
it's not "viable" but you will punch considerably harder as a wizard with a kos parasite in your hand. i was punching mobs in chalices for like, 150? you could hit a lot harder with flats, since humanform doesn't get the multiplier

it is definitely possible to make an utterly shitty, terrible muscle wizard build for fun

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>>123542540
I love the church pick.
It's stupid fast and the moveset is great.
I grinded 27.2%s for the first time just for this weapon.

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>>123543208
>ganking Maria

THIS TRIGGERS ME.

>>123543234
kek, literally just changed the filename to that, thanks ayy lmao-kun

>>123543293

Most welcome my kin.

best str build weapons?

>>123543475
whirligig saw and amygdala arm are the new hot shit from the DLC

kirkhammer and wheel are the traditional answers

>>123543475
pizza cutter and amy

>go to make a new character
>character model spawns with a grey version of the milkweed rune and doesn't vanish

anyone else have this happen?

You're all dead to me.

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Any tips for Saw Cleaver vs. Ludwig on NG++? What level should I be at?

>sl30
>Helping people with gascoigne
>all of a sudden summoned to help with NG+

What kind of prick does a low-level NG+ and summons randoms? I didn't sign up to die to one fucking shot from his shotgun.

>>123542116
The parasites didn't necessarily kill her. They could have just been parasites. Lots of people have got parasites in their bodies and it doesn't necessarily kill them. Anyway, here:
>According to the Choir, the land of Isz lies in contact with the cosmos, which allowed the Great Ones to function on transcendental planes of thought.
Great Ones, even when their physical bodies are dead, aren't necessarily unconscious. or unable to act entirely. Perhaps Kos was called by its brethren and drawn to the place where the Great Ones were being worshiped and their blood used by the masses for both healing and recreation? The Great Ones do feel a desire for children, so perhaps they can feel lonely and desire companionship too? Maybe "blessing" the village was just a way to get them to offer up to her a child for her to care for, the Orphan? So she sent her dead body from whatever depths it was nestled in to them.

This is just me throwing ideas out there, anon.

>>123543475
Pizza Cutter and Axe

Why is there a Bloodstarved Beast in a cave filled with blood

>go to forbidden woods lamp
>immediately some dude there

>i have zero blood vials
>he just camps my ass
OH MAN
IO LOVE THIS RANDOM SCRIPTED ENCOUNTERS

>>123543794
He's starved so he goes where there is blood?

>got to bed
>wake up
>Peeve's still at it

>>123541726
>Wouldn't that have happened long after them fucking around with the fish people?
Not necessarily. It would depend on how mad the people of Yharnam had become by then. Perhaps Kos' arrival happened by the time that the Choir was established, which would be long after Laurence had died and right around the time the Church Hunters would start being shunned because of the Choir's influence. Plus, the Choir wouldn't necessarily need Kos' parasites for their experiments; they'd have the phantasms in the Isz dungeons for that. They've got a clear enough connection (the "cosmos") for it to not matter that the phantasms and Kos' parasites come from different sources when they're essentially the same kind of beings.

>>123543692
Max every stat cap the level.

>>123543858
But unless I arrived right as he did, he shouldn't be starved any longer.

>>123543794
He just got there and was about to slake his thirst. Asshole.

>>123543874
Poor guy's getting rekt for about 20 hours now I think

>Eat a Beast Blood Pellet
>Spam Tricked Amy Arm R2
>Obtain full meter in record time

The multihits cause buildup super well.

>>123543794
The cave is full of things from Old Yharnam. The Gatling Gun Hunter was one of Djura's allies. The rest of the beasts are Old Yharnam refugees.

dlc bundle when?

>>123543843
WHY IS THIS MOTHERFUCKER RIGHT OUTSIDE OF MY LAMP
WHY
HE WASNT THERE A MINUTE AGO

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

>>123543843
It's not random, he spawns after you're done with bucket head

>>123543692
As high as you want on your main stats, ++ and above levels don't mean anything, they'll still 2-3 hit you even if you're level 200-300, +2's not so bad as +3 and above btw.

is the bowblade good?

seems like the only other bloodtinge weapon around.

>>123543968
How fast does Pizza Cutting raise the beast meter anyways?

>making maria build
>can't decide if pure skill or skill/tinge

halp

>>123543998
>getting rek'd by madara younger
Just bait his swings and get him in a corner. He whistled himself to death for me.

>>123543968
>tfw just finished farming 27.2s for my beast build
>tfw beat Laurence on my own (fuck getting summoned for him tho, Christ)
>tfw ayy arm is my favourite new weapon
>tfw synergy
So, is amy arm classed as a "beast weapon" then? Apparently the beast form gives bonuses to beast weapons, and that's a plural. I haven't finished the DLC yet, but I'm assuming Bloodletter is the other beast weapon? I'm only at Living Failures.

Also shit loads of activity at BL118, and I can use my little bell and search for CD co-op in Hunter's Dream at the same time. Thank you Miyazaki.

>>123543973
Japan gets an Old Hunter Edition and EU gets Game of the Year edition. NA gets nothing.

I ordered the Japanese version because muh collectibles

>>123544114
bow is quite good for PvE. it is not so good for PvP

however, there is another tinge weapon, bloodletter. bloodletter is GREAT for pvp, much better than chikage

Was anybody else reminded of a Japanese mermaid looking at Kos? I was half-expecting the game to reveal that people had eaten her corpse and become immortal because of it.

>>123543998
Literally just run right and get on the elevator, he'll try to plunge attack you when you reach the bottom and he'll die.

>>123544198
50 SKL 15 ARC
old hunter bone
fire paper

>>123544350
inb4 you just led some poor bastard to his death via npc plunge attack

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>exploring yucky blood lake
>seashell falls from the sky
>a lady plops out of the seashell

WHAT

WHAT THE FUCK

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>>123544091
O-oh, well, thanks.

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>>123544198
if you're using rakuyo go full skill

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post hunters

>my shits always blurry
>try and capture something cool
>blurry

>>123544348
I'd eat her out if you know what I mean.

>>123544419
just you wait

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OLD BLOOD
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>>123544474
Stylin' on niggas all day erry day

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THE FISHING HAMLET IS FUCKING SPOOKY HOLY SHIT THOSE WHALE GUYS

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so can someone explain me the lore on kos/the orphan of kos

>>123544412
he plunged at me
took about half my health
then died
>>123544350
thanks m8

>>123544581
l-lewd

The whole thing really did remind me of Psyren, though. Except the mermaid there was an alien instead of an eldritch sea monster.

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>>123544474
Made before beast mode was a thing
Shame beast mode makes everyone look the same

Oh fuck guys just got dlc and damn lots of weapons.

But remembered the shitty gem grind in chalice dungeons, has anything changed to get good gems easier?

>>123544708
I remember that. Forgot why she was so important, though. All I remember is that it ends with her getting busted out of whatever prison she was in.

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>>123544474
You mean cool shit like THIS?

Still kinda blurry unless you have immaculate timing but I 'kid

>hit an afk host twice within a few seconds with the bloodletter frenzy attack
>frenzy almost procs on me with +200 deep sea rune, frenzy does not proc on the host

Can anyone expain this shit?

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>Ludwig the accursed
>after half an hour straight of dying and finding my openings
>cutscene
>LUDWIG THE HOLY BLADE
>MUSIC AMPS THE FUCK UP
>get the ever-loving shit kicked out of me
>have to leave for work

I'M COMING FOR YOU, YOU SON OF A BITCH

>>123544198
Rakuyo is super spammy. Attack rate about the same as a cleaver.

>>123544824
tryin to capture the crescent slash just right on both r2 and the follow up. i just spam the capture button. i just said fuck it since my health gets low quick

>>123544667
Kos washed up on shore, possibly because of a heavy parasite load, her corpse still manages to give birth to the Orphan of Kos. The black spirit is either Kos's spirit or a spirit of another infant Great One (or stillborn/yet to be born Great One still in Kos).

>>123544824
>always browse /bbg/ after I turn off the PS4
>can never be arsed to turn it back on, put them on USB, put them on PC
I should make one of those throwaway twitters the cool kids use.

Fuck Ludwig. Most infuriating boss in the game by far. Took me 12 tries which is more than any boss in the vanilla game took.

I'm also not sure what the fuck I'm saying to these NPC's and I'm probably fucking up all of their quests. Feels bad.

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>Old Hunters on NG+5

Jesus Christ. I thought you guys were joking. This shit is ridiculous. Ludwig is pushing my shit in so hard right now. Oh my god. I don't know if I can do this.

I only have 18% gems too because fuck Chalice Dungeons.

Think I might call it quits for now and do a few more runs on NG with new characters.

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>>123544973

I use the usb thing, I just transfer pictures in bulk so I'm not constantly switching back around lol. I also browse in between summons usually so eh.

>>123545020
Nigga I just beat the DLC solo on NG+7. You can do it.

>>123545075
What stats / gems / weapons did you use?

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>>123544474
I love helmets/hats that cover your face
I made an ugly toon and im lazy to go through chalices again

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7920


Where do i go with this? 45 arc? 50 arc? 30 str to use canons and stuff?

>>123545112
LHB, with +20% across the board. I pumped vit a little and ran all three Clockwise Metamorphosis runes.

>>123545075
Fuck I'm on the same boat man, I'm stuck on Laurence, holy shit how do you deal with second form? I can't even get close to him.

Is Maria supposed to be an easy fight?

Got passed her first run, it was fun but still, really easy.

>>123545140
>toon
please my man don't call them that

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>>123545195
all the hunters boss fights are easy

Y'all aren't cowards right? Then help me with Laurence, I'm at lamp.

Pass is bbg.

I'm waiting.

>>123545261
Gehrman got my shit pushed in hard m8.

>>123544419
prepare yourself

>>123545171
I actually found the second form much easier.

Attack his sides. Back off when he starts shitting larva. Back off when he starts flailing his arms wildly. Its easier than you think to get close to him. You can also sprint away to heal and he can't get to you.

Be brave.

>>123545195
maria's only tough if you don't understand spacing / opportunities

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I didnt really have time to grind like a NEET for rare arc gems yet since I work some late shifts lately, but as of LV100 I am right now, and having 50 ARC, can I do some decent damage in PvP or in CO-OP vs bosses?

>>123545169
>all three Clockwise Metamorphosis runes
Huh. I never thought of doing that. Thanks mate.

does bloodletter damage when you transform it with the yoshimitsu hari kari thing?

also is there a combo transformation attack from the 1h to 2h? and vice versa

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Tried my hand at a Ludwig Cosplay

D-did I do good?

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>>123545069
Couldn't browse inbetween summons tonight, Christ. I couldn't even get a message down in between Laurence summons. He can be really bullshit, his second phase is about ok, but his huge arcing claw attack has like three variations and two shots me if I misjudge. I think out of the 12 I helped, only 4 beckoners made it. Have an older character instead.

>>123545015
If you're stuck on Ludwig and are a Str build, use the Beast Claws. I'm 100% sure he's like Gacoigne and One Reborn, they just shred him to fucking pieces. This isn't Beast's Embrace either, I still have to try that.

>exit out of yahar'ghul lamp
>only NG
>walk down first flight of stairs, not even to the one with the amygdala
>one-shot by a random shitter
cool stuff
:DDDD

>>123545325
i honestly don't know but i'd like to. you'll just have to try it

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any tips for defiled amygdala?

This faggot is like 20 times harder than regular amygdala

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Man, fuck the grind for good gems. Seriously. It's complete and utter bullshit. How can you even defend this crap?

And yes, I am mad. Chalice dungeons are a blight on this game.

>>123545385
pretty nice.

Does depth 5 Great Isz still grant you a blood rock when you defeat the last boss?

>>123544474
>blurry

That's called per-object motion blur, which is the only kind of motion blur that looks good since it's not your entire screen blurring but rather only some elements, and it's the reason why movement in this game looks so fucking good. The ayy lmao mode attacks for example are of some extreme eye candy.

It's LITERALLY a feature.

>Ludwig
>BL130
>50 Bloodtinge
> 60 Vit
>+10 Evelyn
>+10 two-handed Chikage
>I'm barely scratching him
>He takes almost half my health with a hit
>Its just NG its not even NG+
What the actual fuck? I just got the DLC today, a couple days ago people were bitching and moaning how 60 is the average level for him and that people are cheesing him at 100+, that's bullshit, he's plenty tough as it is.

Anyone else miss farming for chunks and slabs in New Londo ruins?

>>123545363

Yes and yes

Anyone on bbg want to help me take down Ludwig? NG, lvl 52. Pass is bjPtk139 at the nightmare church lamp.

>>123545263
Im there sempai I'll try get in a few hits this time

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>>123545408
Haven't even gotten to Laurence yet, been too busy helping others with every other boss and getting filthy vermin to crush. One day I'll work up to the courage to return to the burning Cleric Beast.
>>123545487
Th-thanks
>>123545524
That per-object shit seems to work really well for this picture

after forbidden woods I thought to myself "at least I'm done with the worst zone, not only in this game, but all of video games"

nope, up comes yahar'gul village where everything respawns unless you find some cunt bellringer.

like holy shit, it's just annoying. it's not hard, it's just really nagging and annoying, which thus far is a nice summary of the whole bloodborne experience.

how the fuck do you autists play this day in and day out.

>>123545467
don't even bother with less than 40 vit
hug his bum when he rips his arms off
freeze when he jumps, he'll never hit you
summon queen killer
unless you're a twink, in which case you have to become one with amygdala's bullshit and surpass him
kill amygdala with his own arm, it's metal as fuck

>>123545474
they're lame but i can deal. i'm stuck with one last 26% gem, but i cba to grind anymore. maybe later when i need a break, i can do those watchers in my sleep kek.

>>123545581
no. i would rather farm chalices for years than farm for a pure bladestone again tho.
>this triggers the demon's souls players

>>123545474
>And yes, I am mad. Chalice dungeons are a blight on this game.
Just like RNG is the blight of MMOs, right?

No anon, Chalice dungeons are fine, its your min-maxing elitist autism sperging out that's the cancer. Don't blame the game for your autismo ass wanting one specific randomly generated gem out of six hundred possible combinations.

>>123545075
What level and build?

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>>123544474
In memoriam to the black-haired edge master that I created that I accidentally re-rolled back to BL35 in an attempt to savescum.

>>123545610
On the way, where are you ringing at?

>>123545524
>That's called per-object motion blur, which is the only kind of motion blur that looks good since it's not your entire screen blurring but rather only some elements, and it's the reason why movement in this game looks so fucking good.
tl;dr > Blurry

okay so
i fucked up and im at
17 vit 46 str

everything is one-shotting me

where do i farm echoes to rectify this mistake of literally no health

I'm aiming on getting the Bloodletter for my bloodtinge character but I'm not really sure what to do to get there with a main weapon. Should I just progress through by upgrading saw cleaver + repeater pistol?

>>123545325

>Lv 100 with shitty gem

kek

>>123545467
if >=50 ARC, just spam gloves, blood bulleting, you should be able to do it just 24 bullets and 20 vials
if 50 BLT, attack the arms until second phase then bone ash repeater the head
if STR or STR/SKL, use hunter axe running transformed r2 then r1 after it lowers its head until dead. safest way, dont get greedy on 3rd phase, not all head lowering is long enough
alternatively use saw cleaver transformed r1 spam on the middle arm standing in the spot where it will spend most of the time just stomping
stay FAR away in 3rd phase
learn to dodge the jump attack
immediately run away if it starts drooling
arc defense doesnt matter in the fight

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>ludwig is cleric beast

i actually like chalice dungeons. They are pretty comfy IMO....except when those goddamn red spiders start popping up.

>>123545715
Nightmare church lamp room in front of the staircase that leads down.

>>123545756
Yeah I'm sorry we dont all crawl dungeons all day, some of us also have a life and work for a living fám.

>>123545578
Gems?

>>123545792
>tfw 2 bell maiden in one room
>million spiders

>>123545663
200 or so, it's inflated though. Used >>123545169
Two CMs and one Anti-CM is also good.

>>123545791
>headless bloodletting beast is Laurence

>>123545737
14/14/50 it'll let you use the chikage before getting the bloodletter and if you go 14/15/50 gives you the bowblade.
>Should I just progress through by upgrading saw cleaver + repeater pistol?
yes, that or saw spear

>>123545791
This guy looks so fucking tiny and he's so obviously gay even though he's trying his best not to seem like it. Wonder if that beard of his is a lesbian as well. You can pretty much see he just grabbed the first woman in front of him as cover because that girl is some RNG tier level of uglyness.

>>123545467
Used ranged attacks
Alternatively, summon someone who can use ranged attacks

>>123545857
+25% atk
+25% atk
+12% Bloodtinge scaling

Amygdalan Arm range is amazing

>>123545845

>bragging about having life on taiwanese image board
If you actually use your brain, it only takes 10 minutes to get top tier gem on kos parasite.

Does the gatling gun hunter respawn?

>>123544419
LOL Youll find out bout those later.

There is a reason it feel from the sky and when you realise it you will shit bricks

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>mfw even with the DLC Bloodletting Beast in the small poison pool arena in the chalice dungeon is STILL the hardest fight in the game

>>123545467
Attack with your weapon of choice in order to inflict enough damage to deplete its HP bar and heal when necessary. Don't forget to dodge attacks that may kill you.

>>123545646
Too cowardly for actual self-mutilation.

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>>123545792
REMOVE SPIDERS

>>123545973
Ayy Arm is an unexpected surprise, I love it. I really like the Beast Cleaver though, it feels meaty as fuck and it slashes up the bigger beasties like no ones business. I don't really like the Saif yet, but I'll need to do a Ski/Tin character anyway because I need that bow in my life.

>>123545986
Why would he

>>123545646
The same way I'm sure you bitch about things you don't like at people you don't even know, day in and day out
autism

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>>123545806
Ahhh....

My guiding moonlight...

I'm sorry for scrubbing out like that, hope you got him

>>123545973

>For its power, its requirements to equip are ridiculously low.
>Its extended form is still one-handed so you can constantly use it.
>It outranges fucking everything
>Its R2 does two hits.
>Its charged R2 does three
>Its among the faster weapon in its weight class (if not the fastest, when extended at least, contracted is slow) Its extended form outclasses its contracted form so there's no reason to use it
>It doesn't get stack on anything, it will clip through literally everything in its R2 state
>Its something that is incredibly easy to get as early as BL 15.

Its gonna get patched, right? Like soon, right?

>>123546093
Because every other blood-addled hunter I've fought up to this point respawns?

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>>123546059
>>123545862
their fucking aggro range is something else. I refuse to believe it wasn't on purpose to fuck with the player.

>>123546118
Nah, Host died.

>>123545806
Almost had him. I'm down to go again if you guys are.

now that Bloodborne wont make anymore money, PC when?

>>123546157
>>123546181

You know I am.

>>123546148
>kill the maiden
>spiders don't despawn
just

>>123545878
Coolio, thanks man I'll keep up the pace.

>>123546146
NPCs that drop badges, weapons, and sidearms do not, never have, and never will respawn.

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>>123544474

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>>123546024
>"Slow poison"

>>123546118
Nope. Not quite. Close though.

>>123546024
No

>>123546254
That one behind you is getting away...

>>123545578

>bloodtinge

I think thats your problem.

I dont think hes weak to blood based attacks.
Hes covered in it and whole are is filled with blood.

Need to do pure physical attack for him i think

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I honestly think Orphan is actually harder with summons

Anybody else felt Ludwig's 'arena' felt the same as Andariel's lair? I think I'm the only one.

>>123546328
he is, all the bosses are, its a mechanic that's been in the game since demon's souls.

>>123546181
You ringing back in the Nightmare church? I'm getting nothing on my end, host.

Can anyone help me with Orphan?
Pass: bbg123

>>123546328
No
Summons let you heal, or let you help your summons heal
The distraction of a summon lets you get viscerals in

Gatling gun draws his aggro immediately, which is pretty helpful

>>123546328
Yeah, just like in Monster Hunter you sometimes don't want to bring NPC helpers because they can fuck you up as the monster/boss switches targets randomly.

say uhh

is this shit happening only in one area or is the whole world kinda fucked up?

Reminder that a corpse should be left well alone

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Are you sure Cold Abyssal drops from kkvk8gsj?

I've been farming this nigger for an hour and all 4 times its been cold damp.

I have the highest possible discovery too... Am I just being too impatient?

>>123546024
Who is, out of all of the bosses in the entire game, the hardest one of them all?

Is it Laurence? Orphan? Watchdog?

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>>123545524
>not even in motion
>blurry

just post your hunter

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>>123546632
IM SORRY

>>123546667
I like how the good hunter can not make eye contact with Maria.

>>123544827
they dont get frenzy i believe, just you

>>123545941
Discard the 12% BLT scaling. Socket the blood damage gem from the Mensis nightmare. Grab a 19% for your Evelyn if you don't have one. Liberally sprinkle in BMA during the first phase (though feel free to unzip during the breath attacks). You need to do about 8,000 damage to cause the flip, and you should be able to reach that within twenty shots with ten of those being buffed. Get close during phase two and proceed to unzip.

The range game in the first phase should help you avoid damage / save vials for phase two if his sweep attacks catch you.

So with the DLC, is there any weapon that would be better for a character with near-maxed stats than Ludwig's Holy Blade?

>watch every 3 combo swipe from laurentius
>pray the host doesn't die every time

This is more stressful then fighting the boss.

>>123546667
>>123546726
Probably spilling internal spaghetti because of how close she is.

>>123545408
i always forget the wheel exists

>>123545632
nice image, tryin to do something like that as well but my timing is shit

does the ps4 capture as soon as you press share or when the camera icon is on screen?

>>123544348
>immortal
What, like that guy babbling about Byrgenwerth?

>>123546657
Merely bad luck.
But, yeah, it's slow. Nowhere near as bad as arc radials.
Remember oil urn parry saw spear transform attacks.

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What makes a good man, /bbg/?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08h0IVs4RKQ

>>123545646
nah old yarnham and the part where teh door opens in oedan's after bsb. so tedious

i gave up on a ludwig holy blade build because i couldn't be fuckin assed to do that shit again

actually post rom isn't that bad compared to pre rom.

i hate doin witches, nightmare areas, and old yarnhum

>>123546890
Pretty much despite their being a delay in the share menu appearing. It's kinda hard to describe but once you get the hang of it, like I slowly am I hope, you should be getting some photogenic hoontahs.

how does the pvp summoning range work? +/-10 and 25%?

>>123546658
I think everyone has his or her own wall. Laurence on NG+ was mine. Broke me like no other boss in this series has.

>>123545735
lecture building, just funnel the goo guys into a door and go to town.

Someone willing to lend a hand with the Orphan Of Kos?

Pass: Bbg123

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>>123545632
>>123546890
all about the timing, gotta spam the living shit out of your share button.

>>123546658
>watchdog one of the hardest
NO

On ng++ and above I'd say Laurence>Orphan due to his retarded hp and 2 hit ko's

>>123545792
they feel too claustrophobic to me. i get spooked easily also.

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can someone help me kill these three hunters at the yahar'gul chapel

>>123547083
I had a lot more trouble with orphan than laurence on NG+7.

>>123546632
Not when it's got a glowy "there's an item here" gob floating about it, lady. Hand over the threads. If the world's gotta end, I might as well look fab during.

I put a Blood Rock on my normal Chikage on my pure bloodtinge build, since I didn't know about the Lost version's circle imprint. How badly did I mess up?

>>123547124
Nobody ever fights them

Everybody just runs through, myself included

>>123546019
explain

>>123547171
everytime i do this mage one never leashes and one-shots me with their lightning ability

>>123547124
Bait them one at a time.

>>123547154
you can get a blood rock from the dlc and I got a blood rock from beating the Yharnam Queen boss in chalice dungeon. You can also get a blood rock in mensis and one from each chalice dungeon area, loran, isz, and the one I mentioned.

>>123547154
not that badly, its still viable

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Is this even possible to do with character creation?

>>123547259
Where's the blood rock in the DLC?

>>123547315
An area right before the Orphan fight. Right past two Winter Lanterns.

What the fuck, why is spaghetti bitch suddenly so annoying to deal with? Before the DLC and shit I wouldnt have too much problems with her but now she's destroying my fucking asshole 20 times over

>>123547313
Oh my god no wonder Gehrman fell for her.
BB's character creator is the best in series so probably.

>>123547154
1.05 allows for five non-random blood stones to be obtained per game cycle. DLC bumps that up to six. As a tinge build, you don't have a huge weapon pool, so hopefully the other stones will get you the +10s you want. Otherwise it's NG+ or killing layer three bosses.

So, nothing real bad.

>>123547313
No, that hairstyle isn't usable by players

>>123547124
see that door on the left that leads to the alley? go that way and never look back

3 fucking hunters there is overkill

>>123547313
How'd you get up so close to her like that?

>>123547315
you know the part with the winter lantersn where you can see a little slug woman run to the right? follow that thing. it's over there on top of some boards.

>>123546939

Ive just been doing tricked parasite running r2s, they always stun him and they do close to 1000 damage each time with a full set of perfect flat gems. The rest of the time im just firing blacksky eyes at him.

>>123547429
It's just a picture I grabbed from Fextra that some anon linked on a previous thread.

Alright well I just suck. That's enough tonight. Thanks anyways Curie, Raulin, and Dio.

Pizza Cutter or Beast Cutter? Fuck I cant pick help fám. If it helps I prefer doing co-op with people a lot and only doing invasions every now and then. Got the 27+ phys gems from my wheel so I'm covered on that front. 50 STR too ofcourse. Did cap 25 skill since I had steak driver on secondary.

>>123547473
We tried. You'll get lucky next time.

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>>123547473

You'll get me next time, don't worry.

>>123547313
It would be tough, but I think you could get close. Comparing it to my character, she's got a lower, narrower chin, smaller nose, and less prominent cheekbones. I'm not sure you can get a nose that round, and I think the hardest part would be getting cheeks that look smooth like that, but aren't fat. I have a tough time getting cheeks that aren't either caved in or puffy, but it is possible.

>>123547524
That..... That isn't a Bloodborne screenshot...

What the fuck

>>123547425
they never stop following me

if someoen could help that'd be swell
at yahar'gul chapel

pw: bbgvg

>>123547313
what a QT pattooty

thats a face you can cum on

>>123547425
>>123547235
>>123547171
>not luring them to the lamp after the amygdala and chessing them through the wall

seriously?

>>123547313
She's really cute. Gehrman got good taste

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So I have a few questions about this image

Is it possible to get the Fire Gem it talks about before doing BSB?
I'm going to be using the Kos Parasite mainly when I get it. Should I use another weapon aside from the ones mentioned in this image? Which one?

Can anyone help me with Orphan on NG?
Pass: ding1

>>123547502
In my experience pizza cutter has been god damn amazing. If you pop a pellet it builds your meter incredibly fast and the range and width with how you attack is great.

Also nailing somebody with the charge attack and the dashing R2 feels so satisfying.

Goddamn, Beast Cutter's whip R2 is ridiculous. Way more range than it should have and massive damage.

>>123547709

You need to do BSB for the fire gem from lower Cathedral Ward guarded by the brainsucker. Saw Spear/ArcCane is your bread and butter. Axe/cleaver is optional but those other weapons really are the best to do the build on.

>>123547709
>Fire Gem it talks about before doing BSB
Not really, and you need a +6 saw spear to make use of its waning shape anyway.

Fire Saw Spear and ARCane is optimal as you can use them both with base stats. If you want to change it up you could go fire Beast Cutter (rush it after amelia).

>>123547720
ringan

>>123547610
do the cheese method>>123547642


that reminds me, i forgot to pick up a chunk and blood in the area where you rescue the jealous church bitch and on the way to paarl

>>123547852

Is the Beast Cutter even really that great? It seems kind of.. lackluster.

OH GOD YOU FELL

OH GOD IM SO SORRY LOL

>>123547818
Yeah it did sound like fun.
what imprints/version is best for a full STR build?
>>123547984
well it has insane range.

>>123547992
Whoops. Well, at least the three hunters are dead. Still want to summon me for the boss, or are you good?

What's better against faggot Laurence, mlgs L2/R2 or pizza cutter's L2 if you have the right stats for them?

>>123545020
>autistic enough to enjoy NG+5
>"Fuck chalices dungeons"

Jesus christ. You're retarded.

are defiled chalice and isz ebrietas doable with a +10 saw cleaver at 20 str bl 43?

>>123546658
Undead giant with the flails on his back.

I hope you have 45 minutes cleared out. Cuz that's your perfect run of that boring tedious NIGGER FUCK HIS STUPID 0 POINT AXIS TURN SPIN MOVE THEN TRIPLE SLAM ON GROUND OK ATTACK NO WAIT HE CHAIN THE SWORD ARM INTO IT AH SOME SAY NIGGERS

OTHERS SAY FAGOT

FUCK

GUF


GOD HE'S SO STUPID AND BORING AND DICKS

>>123548018
i would appreciate the help
i got to head to bed relatively soon

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>>123547720
So weird going from fight Ludwig to Orphan, I'm sorry.

What the fuck was that hitbox though

>>123546141
>there's no reason to use it
Club form is amazing. You've missed the point. whip mode has range out the ass and fun multihit gimmicks, but the club has incredible single target dps and stagger potential. Not to mention that Charged R2 followup. you do know about that right?

>>123548124
Then where are you? Back at the lamp? Or at the fog gate?

>>123548149
back at the lamp

How high should I make my SKL to use Rakuyo and do enjoyable damage?

I fucked around with STR a bit to use the pizza cutter since it helped so much with Ludwig. Otherwise my SKL is at 32 right now. Bump it straight to 50 or can 40 be ok?

>>123548139
i have no fucking idea, he's been raping me for 3 hours
i'll try again later, thanks for the help tho

>>123548005
I got no idea honestly. Right now I've just been running it on my mid level STR character and it comes with 2 circles and a triangle and that's been treating me pretty well. You can try for a more arcane version since it scales pretty well with arcane but it has an S in STR rating at +10 so that'll be best for you. Also the 4th hit on the normal combo and the charge attack has multiple hits when it connects so take that for whatcha will.

Just beat vicar amelia, level 38

If I buy the DLC and go straight in will it wreck me?

d-did you just fall again

>>123548280
yes

>>123548280
Pretty much, yeah. Wait until you're about 55-60

So whats the pvp lvl? im still 80 should i go higher?