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PSN ded, post hunters Edition


ded like PSN >>123540783


>Patch 1.07 Info and How to Access the DLC
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/20/bloodborne-the-old-hunters-out-tuesday-patch-1-07-detailed/
>I can't access DLC, the Eye isn't showing up in the Dream!
Fix: Settings > Playstation Network/Account Management > Restore Licenses

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4
http://imgur.com/a/YobZp

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel, Fight Club, and Chalice Dungeon Speedrun Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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It's Kos
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Please you guys>>123562784
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Posting a hunter.
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alright
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>Ludwigs 2nd phase
I can't even be mad at my losses, that shit is fucking awesome. Now I need to go grind some fucking levels, I'm not going to attempt this shit anymore at level 60.
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Please rate/critique my potential Moonlight Blade build. I am rusty from a couple months away from the game so I need help!

http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7964
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>>123563483
I wonder if those are the masts you see in the background in the nightmare frontier
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>>123563292
get the key from simon by the lighthouse hut lamp

>>123563463
cute/10
>>123563483
imposing but somehow jovial, I guess because of wine pants/10. I like it
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>>123563292
Be patient anon you will eventually get it when you progress further in the dlc.
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bl57 looking for help at logarius. i solo'd him on my first char, don't feel like dealing with this asshole again
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>Come back after 6 months of not playing BB to get the DLC

>Am creeped out as fuck

I forgot how fucking eerie this game is. Gives me more goosebumps than some horror games.
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Panorama screenshot guy here, for those who remember me.
I'm screenshotting my way through the dlc and there's some cool stuff, 20 bucks well spent so long.
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>>123563816
Password?
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>>123563816
Bad timing, it seems like PSN is down.
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So this was it /bbg/? We fought countless beast and mad hunters in our long hunt until we transcend a whole different level in the hunt. The only thing i could love is to fight a true great one and see the ultimate realm of another plane of existence.
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Speed of church pick is pretty insane.
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>>123563863
Aw yis good to see you're back
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>>123563886
Fear the old blood.
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>>123563863
YES

We have missed you, I hope you'll get A LOT of those pictures!
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>>123563896
this is the quality service i pay 10 dollarydoos a month for
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>>123563572
100%
>Nightmare Frontier
>Frontier
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>>123563061
Finally got blood chunks
Evens = upgrade my +6 Moonlight blade
Odds = upgrade my +6 Whirligig saw

Also reminder that the /church/ did nothing wrong
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If you turn around in front of the Ludwig boss door and go back a bit there's a zombie corpse thing clawing at the gate you passed that's a guaranteed five blood vial drop.

I wonder if there are any more in the blood river? I thought it was decorative because you can't target it, but you can kill it
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stop making these threads 100 post too early you fucking retard.
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Does elemental damage do less the other types? My ludwig's sword says It does about 470 electric yet when I'm attacking It does a measly 300ish, do enemies generally have a higher defense to elemental than other attack types? I'm really struggling with Ludwig and just can't think of doing anything but raising my damage.
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>>123563531
pls anons
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>>123563929
It's great, burial blade 2.0
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>>123564106
750 is the bump limit smart guy
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>>123564054
>>123563971
Oh don't worry there's plenty to come
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>>123563863
Could you make some cool wallpaper-ratio screenshots aswel?

These look crisp and awesome!
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Posting a hoontah
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>>123563886
>>123563816

Dude?
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>>123564283
I wish I could pay 100 bucks for each of these masterpieces for you
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Which weapon do I turn lvl 10:

Logarius Wheel, Saw Cleaver, Ludwig's Holy Blade?
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>>123564063
>/church/ did nothing wrong
>crazy fanatics
>genocide friendly fishmans in Innsmouth
>inhumane experiments
>inhumane experiments on kids
>tortured vilebloods
>killed tons of people in chalices
>ruined Yharnam
Literally Inquisition
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>>123564370
no password. is PSN back up yet?
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>>123564283
fucking reem
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Why did we even kill Micolash? He did absolutely nothing wrong.
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PSN is down god damn it fuck shit.
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amygdalan arm, how to build?
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>>123563576
Thanks

>>123563619
Dude I already finished the DLC I just forgot lol
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>>123564283
fucking sweet
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These are my hunters that have beaten the DLC.
I fucking love the Rakuyo and un-tricked moonlight sword.
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>>123563061
OP made me do it
I miss the charred hunters grab, literally the best looking chest piece in the game
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who /broccoliman/ here
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fucking black friday sales fucking up servers. this weekened is gonna suck
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This is the last place I saw, I'll be back in a few days for a big dump.

>>123564587
??
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Male Hunter.
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>>123564857
Wow the rakuyo is a perfect match for that set
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>>123564536
HEALING Church originally did nothing wrong. They just wanted to heal people. The Choir is to blame. It's because of them that the Healing Church eventually cut off ties with the Hunters. And even though the Choir respected Willem who established the Church, Willem did not approve of their ideas.
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Female Hunter.
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So the old blood was tainted, and that fucked up the church/hunters/etc. But what happened with the Kin? Why did they go wrong when they were bloodless?
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Rate/post Hunters
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>>123564589
Micolash was long dead anyway. Only his mind remained in the dream world.

His body was completely rotten.
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>>123562964
Are you still awake senpai?
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Mm
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>>123564063
maniac/10
>>123564286
badass old/10
>>123564857
excellent/10
>>123565018
twilight/10
>>123565162
ayyy/10
>>123565278
bookish librarian/10
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>>123565223
The ashen blood was 'tainted'. The ashen blood is probably the blood the Vermin swim in.

The Vermin, however, only transform a person into a Beast once the person gives in completely to the violent urges they induce. The Kin, on the other hand, were mutated by different kinds of organisms. The phantasms and creatures like the Kos Parasites, probably. Creatures found in Isz, which is a land closer to the "thought realm" Great Ones can act in.
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Is Micolash stronger now? I don't recall getting oneshot by Augur.
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>>123565352
literal twink/10
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>Aah, you were at my side, all along.
>My true mentor...
>My guiding moonlight...
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online working fine in EU now
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Oops
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>>123563529
Just summon hunters.
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>>123565352
I saw this like billion years ago and never received the sliders for him

Please, does anyone have them

>>123565405
They buffed the shit out of arcane in the last patch, have fun with NG+++++ Micolash
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>>123565601
I will never use Co-op/Online to beat a boss the first time. Come the fuck on tripfag.
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>>123565658
Then level up some more. Or at least +10 that weapon.
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Still need help for dat Rakuyo
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>>123565641

>Beckoner Nigel
>that huge nose

Smashing.
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>>123565782
>Now I need to go grind some fucking levels, I'm not going to attempt this shit anymore at level 60.
Fucking retarded tripfag.
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>After multiple attempts, getting OoK down to half health
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>>123565825
You should deal with that anger, anon. It's not healthy.
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Rate me, hunters
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>>123565615
Ask and you shall recieve
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>>123566042
Grill looks nice.
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>>123565352
>>123566096
Is it suppose to look like some FtM fuccboi?
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is ludwig's holy blade a gigantic crutch weapon or am I just bad? I got mine to +9 during my first playthrough and I just can't find a weapon to replace it now. I've upgraded several to +6 or +7 but they seem to never come close to the damage, great moveset and stagger than this fucking sword has / does

it's a bit frustrating to find a weapon with a cool moveset but it doesn't seem to come close to the greatsword's usefulness

I'm just ranting, I should just play with something that does less damage and shut the fuck up I know if I want a different moveset
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How do you guys like to run through the game?

I normally run around and grab all my upgrade materials so I can chew through bosses as fast as possible, and also doing all the Npc quests for the poses.
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>>123566185
Man I didn't think Luci was still around.
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>>123566096
Thank you
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So gehrman made contact with the moon presence and created the dream, likely sad about maria's death but w/e some people don't think thats right, so WHY is he so negative about it?

Why does he refer to killing you as waking up out of the horrible dream as if the hunters dream is meant to be a curse. I thought his whole thing was creating refuge and trying to prevent people from ending up in the nightmare.
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>>123566218
Even with like 5 characters of different builds I have the compulsion to grab every single item for all of them. Especially can't let any npc quest lines fail.
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>tfw you swing this for the first time

It's so much more satisfying than the whirlgig saw's dinky mace.
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>>123564536
>Trying to elevate mankind to the next stage
>Get in contact with aliens
>Aliens want to help
>Combine forces with aliens
>The trash of the world don't want none of this shit, too much effort
>Literally hindering progress of the next level of mankind

You just don't see, you just don't understand, the level of magnitude the knowledge the universe, the cosmos hold

so we will make you see
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>>123566042
left: mormon/10
right: would fuck, she's hot. Congrats
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Finally back online

Need help with Orphan
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Has anyone tried the Loch Shield? Is it any good?
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so what was up with the brain fluid things, were the amoebas some sort of phantasm?
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>>123566352
Gehrman's been in the hunter's dream for a fucklong time, anon. His body is probably long gone, like Micolash's, and the moon presence keeps him around as the hunter host. He's basically caught, sees new hunters come and go and is forcefully reminded of the loss of his friends (if you hear him talk in his sleep).

The hunter's dream might be a refuge and useful, but for Gehrman it's really not pleasant.
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Reminder to go in Kin or Beast mode for pvp. Ruin the shitters 26% gems with -beast/kin damage
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Boom Hammer is pretty fucking fun to swing around man, I think you guys are coming down too hard on it
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>>123566484
Hell yes. Reduced arcane hits by like 70%. Enjoy never dying to cheezy meteor rains ever again.
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>>123566528
So if you have a +10% attack, -5% kin/beast does it mean you do 5% extra damage to the kin/beast or will it nullify the 10% entirely and then apply the damage reduction?
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>>123566096
Thanks, I have been looking for Tilda Swinton with facial hair sliders for so long
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that 1%
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So is there anything after Laurence or Orphan?
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>>123565793
Please help
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>>123566707
it's multiplicative, so you would do an extra 4.5% damage in that example.
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I just realized that the Gatling gun hunter was protecting the werewolves and the BSB from you and the other insane hunters.
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Can someone help me beat kos? Ringing at fog at bl 90 and he keeps poonchin me
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>>123566872
No.
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Will we get a physical edition of the old hunters or is it digital only?

Also, how do you use the logarius wheel correctly and effectively? Was dicking around with it in caihurst and learned it can stunlock the bloodsucking beasts. Ludwig HB as well? Are there any other weapons that counts as righteous?
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Hunter's Nightmare is new pvp zone. Keep Laurence alive.
Someone should tell reddit about it
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Rate DLC bosses in order how hard they were for you to beat.

Ludwig > Laurence >>>>>>>>>>>> Orphan > Maria > Failures
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why does yamamura look like peeve
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>>123567212
GotY edition was already confirmed iirc.
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>>123567221
>!SLFKS5pirs
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>>123567260
they both have brain damage
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Didn't spend that long on her, but in hindsight she reminds me of Carrie-Anne Moss.

Also fuck Laurence, god damn.
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>>123567346
>Anonymous
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>>123567284
I know it's drops December third for japan and I think Europe, but I've heard nothing about it coming to the US.
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>entire new DLC takes place in nightmare
>no innate bell ringers
>no arena for PVP without a -hp% mod for the invader

FROOOOOMMM
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>>123567221
Ludwig = 1 death
Living Failures = 2 deaths
Maria = 2 deaths
Orphan = 5+ (Unbeaten)

Haven't tried Laurence yet
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>>123567489
Build?
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>>123567221
Ludwig = 0 deaths
Maria = 0 deaths
Living Failures = 1 death
Laurence = 3 deaths
Orphan of Kos = 6 deaths
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>>123567221
ludwig: 2 deaths
failures: 0 deaths
maria: 0 deaths
laurence: 0 deaths
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Hi /bbg/
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>>123567537
Strength. Used Hunters Axe until for Ludwig and Used Whirligig Saw up until now. Will probably attempt Orphan again tomorrow with the Hunter's Axe
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>>123567221

I died an embarrassing number of times to all of them except the Failures, which I beat first try.
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>>123567406
>tfw can't make handsome/beautiful characters to save your life
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Please someone come help me with OoK I just want tentacles :(((((( bl 90 ringing at the fog gate
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>>123567217
That's stupid people want the beast glyph without stepping into ng+
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>>123567406
want help?
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>>123567221
Orphan>Laurence>Ludwig>Maria>Failures

from hardest to easiest
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Would usually be wearing the Bone Ash Mask

Also, what's the best place to farm Blood Chunks at?
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>>123567221
Ludwig = 0 deaths
Living Failures = 0 deaths
Maria = 0 deaths
Orphan = 0 deaths
Laurence = 6 deaths
Saw Cleaver +10 level 100 with 18% gems
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>>123565487
This post 100% accurately sums up the Ludwig fight.
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can i consider myself gud for killing keeper of the old lords in defiled chalice at bl 43 without parrying once?
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>>123564857
8/10, 8/10, 7/10 resepctively
>>123565018
peeve/10
>>123565162
better than lucy's/10
>>123565278
arima/10
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>>123567836
>Kill Laurence.
>Step on ng+
Like in old times
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>>123567909
dungeons

ptwrx6tb

not just the first boss, speedrun the whole thing and you also might get a chance at a rock with emissary, I got one the other day. or pwmf22gu if you also want blood gems
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is
psn
up
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>>123568017
no, he's easy as fuck.
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>>123567221
Orphan > Ludwig > Maria > Laurence > Failures
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>>123565162
Reminds me of Judy Blanche.
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>>123568042
oh, cool. I still have a ton to clear.

do you just put that seed into any type of dungeon or is that for a specific one? I've only ever done the regular ones I've only played through the game once and am doing the dlc in ng+ now
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church cannon looks sick

postin new hoontah

>>123568069
yes
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>>123563863

This is fine
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God, I love the range on these tentacles.

Still need to figure out how to get proper damage with them, though.
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>queen killer staggering defiled hotdog with his cannon 0,1 seconds before he was about to charge 1hitko me

holy fuck is was there ever a summon this based? tarkus got nothing on this nigger
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Re posting for new thread

> name all my characters "___ , the ___" or "__ of ___". Eg Val the Dreadson, Kezia of Loran, Ves the Cursed
> come up with full back story lore, usually branching off from the starting class, eg. Lone survivor = Kezia of Loran, a child left behind when the beast outbreak occurred, discovered ayy power and magic to keep herself alive, now travels to yharnam to seek revenge on her older sister for abandoning her. Her older sister is my tinge character who fought hard to save her sister but witnessed her fall down into a dark pit, so she ventured to Cainhurst to seek a way to bring back her sister through blood magic.
> my 3 male characters, str/dex/quality are 2 brothers seeking their father somewhat like the winchester from Supernatural. The father is the hunter who eventually trancends and becomes a great one squid, unbeknownst to his sons thinking they are fighting for his freedom.

I don't know why but doing this shit gives me so much satisfaction. I just wish I could have someone else play one of my characters so I can have their eventual showdowns. Anyone else have character ideas and back story they want to share?
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>>123567221
Orphan = Ludwig >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laurence = Maria > Failures
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>>123566213
Charged R2 is godly, but my favorite weapon has to be the burial blade.
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>>123568298
you need to finish all of the main story ones, good luck
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>JUST

>>123568042
Not that anon, but thanks for glyph, I'm gonna try it now.

Also, any anons here with Beast Claw knowledge? I saw a few days ago that apparently heavy abyssals now outdamage the 27.2% gems by quite a margin. Anyone have any more info on that? A CD glyph would be nice to desu senpai.
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>>123568457
What
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>>123568521
oh fuck, I'm only like half way. I guess I'll just look through ng+ for the fixed spawn ones. I just wanna upgrade this baby to +9, L2 is so much fun
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Action Edition pls rate
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>>123566352
>trapped in a nightmare of blood and guts >unable to die, unable to join your fellows and sending more people to the grinder, to madness, death, to being blood addled or becoming a beast
>being a puppet to an incomprehensible horror from beyond the stars
>FOREVER

I fucking wonder.

Something tells me you haven't heard his hidden dialogue. Voice actor nailed it, it tears at the heart.
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>all these people asking for help with bosses

You guys are never gonna git Gud by summoning help.
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>>123568457
That sounds kinda fun.
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>>123568730
looks like a superhero team
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>>123567221
Maria is the only one to kill me. Haven't done Lawrence yet though
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>>123568457
All my characters have a small backstory and an initial idea when I make them, but I don't have them interact in any sense. A small amount of roleplay is super fun.
>make a beast character
>beat Lawrence and become a true beast
>no shirt, only claws, no gun if I can help it
>co-op n CDs for funsies
>spook the fuck outta beckoners
>howl, roar, jump
>some people join in, beg for life and stuff like that
>beat the boss, gotta victory roar and do a cute wave at the end
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How's the church pick?
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>>123568863
Bosses are harder with two or more players anyway, because of the HP and def buffs.
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>>123568863
They're even more disgusting than DSP.
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Who's gonna help a scrub fight Awoo and progress through the Loft?

BL55
Ringing at the spider room.
Password is bbg3145
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>that one boss that everyone complains about but you always found easy
Whats her name, /bbg/.

Logarius gave me some trouble the first time around but since I have to beat him early everytime to finish my wheel build I learned to dunk him without thinking.
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>>123569314
Defiled Amy
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>>123569140
Great, really fast and decent damage for a skill weapon

>>123568907
Hey yeah!
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>>123569314
Amelia, hands down. Still baffled at how can people have trouble with her.
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>>123569227
Except for the fact the guy the boss is looking at can just back away while everyone else hammers it. Doesn't matter if it has more hp when it doesn't do anything
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>>123569314
Pinwheel
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>>123569314
Back then, Rom. Don't know what people bitch about nowadays.
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>>123569314
Bloodstarved Beast. Never found any problem with it, just hug left and you're golden. Pthumerian Descendant can suck a thousand dicks though, I either ace the fucker first time or spend hours stuck on him. No idea why.
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>>123569494
>oh boos is not looking at me, better have at him
>mistime anything, use too much stamina, roll the wrong way
>dead
>host now has to do deal with boss with more hp
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>>123569370
This. I remember looking at a video after of people just staying by the wall and then scumming him in phase 2. I literally just stood underneath the hanging arm.
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I'm level 145 going against Orphan of Kos, why cant i find any cooperator? I am overlevel for the area or something?
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>>123569314
A lot of people shit talked Ebrietas but the fight became surprisingly easy if you just lay into it's body rather than try bait the head slam.
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>>123569629

Massively.
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>>123569314
What about bosses only you seem to find hard?

>always use slow weapons
>mfw fighting abhorrent beast
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>>123568730
loving 2 and 4.
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Lady Maria is cheap.

>lets take gehrman, give him infinite range, faster dodges and attacks so even if they press O/R2 on reaction, the animation delay fucks them :) Also lets make sure she has a gigantic flame AOE that protects her ass every time she whiffs or gives her infinite staggerlock combos :)
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>>123569227
>>123569252
Well, I started at DaS and got up to Nito by summoning for every boss. When I got DaS2 I vowed to get good and for DaS2 and Bloodborne I refused to summon. Now I beat Ludwig and Orphan first try solo
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plipplopplipplop......do you hear it?
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I'm 20/42

Saif or Church pick
i already have a burial blade so im not so sure about the pick
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>>123569824

:)
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>>123567909
sliders for face?
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>>123569314
Gascogne
Amelia
Shadows
Ebrietas


I was one of the guys who found Rom extremely difficult though
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>>123570021
no clue I made this character 3 months ago
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>>123569314

Defiled Sausage
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>Maria
>P1 easy
>P2 easy
>P3 get instagibbed

How? any tips? I'm using the Memelight greatsword
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>>123569824
>MFW I one-shot her

acquire skill
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>>123569695
Fuck man, didnt have any trouble finding cooperators for Ludwig, i even helped some hunters against Failures and Maria, i'm getting really pissed at this fucking boss.
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Anyone tried 3 charge ATK gems on the bowblade for its R2?
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>>123569836
Nice. It's proof you literally got good. Here's how I realized the same happened to me:

>play 400 hours of DaS
>revisit DeS
>remember getting rekt by false king, flamelurker and others
>kill everything on my first try
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>>123569861

NOOOOPE

I feel bad squishing the meat bags desu.

>>123569965

Both? They're both skill/strength weapons. I have no idea if their movesets complement each other but their scaling certainly does.
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>>123569861
>no new messages

I was hoping this would be the first Souls game to give different messages in the DLC. It's madness that there's no 'Do you hear it?'

>>123569965
Both are great
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If you're going for 110/120 level Quality build, where do you put the other points? Is it worth going to 40/40 or should I put them in something like Arcane or Bloodtinge?
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>>123565641
>Nigel
>doesn't smash shit with the Kirkhammer

Slightly disappointed.
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>>123570324

>replay DES
>get to flamefucker
>expect an intense fight
>his wonky pathfinding has him facechecking a dragon's spine segment while I stab him in the ass
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Any webms showing Kos(m) Parasite? Haven't seen anything of it
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>>123570259
nvm got her, cheesed her with visceral spam at P3
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>>123566042
Very slight adjustments to girl and she's totally Charlize Theron from mad max
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This harrowed set is some shit, how are a bunch of bandages as protective as the cainhurst armor? Even the head bandage is an upgrade from the Yahar'gul iron helmet

Literally the only downside to this set is that it has about 2 frenzy resist
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Laying into beast bosses with the boom hammer is really fun
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>>123569307
Need help at Micolash, I just want some confederate co op.

Ringing at bridge. bbg3145 BL56
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>>123564283
Why is the moon a waning blood gem?
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Someone tell me about Church Cannon: What does it do? Is it just a Str weapon? How does it differ from Cannon?
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>>123566336
Oh shit, didn't even think to do this!

Ideas for a Ciri build?
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What if
>water on Earth was created by Great One
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>>123570998
15 arc for anime quickstep. Then choose any sword, probably LHB or MLGS or even Rakuyo.
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>>123569790
Thanks m9
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Post some boom hammer pvp
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>>123569314
They're all kind of easy now since I've played this game way too damn much, but I've never understood why people find Rom hard. Take your time, kill the babies and it's fucking easy as hell.
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>>123570994
It uses less bullets, does less damage, and has falloff on it's projectile, meaning it's range and accuracy are super unreliable.
It also looks like its from the future
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>went through NG DLC fine
>spent 4 hours on Orphan
>going through with other characters
>NG+++ character
>20 deaths just on Ludwig so far
This is going to be a wild ride.
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>>123569314
Ebrietas, Rom.
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>>123570924
Still ringing. Just want to ace Micolash first time so I don't have to stay here too long.

Just trying to set my dream on fire, help me progress to Wetnurse.
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>alak dak makes a video with moonlight greatsword
>not available in your country :/

FUCK YOU
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looking for help with logarius, bl 57, no password
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What a bunch of failures they don't even know to stop attacking when the fight ends
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I hate fighting against big bosses like Ludwig and Laurence. I feel like I do much better against hunter like bosses.
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>people that dont gesture when you arrive or when you successfully kill the boss
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>>123571532
You aren't using lock on with large beast bosses, right?
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>>123570829
>wearing armor for actual defense
M8. Wear what you want. Resistances are the only thing that makes a noticeable difference in armor.
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>>123571532
That's kind of the point.

Take Bloodlettng and Dankbeast, basically camera bosses
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>>123569836
As someone who played DeS and DaS solo, BB has pushed my shit in.
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>>123571619
>people that bow in anything but duel/fightclub PvP
>people that bow when they invade you

We're hoontahs, not knights.
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Orphan's second form is such a fucking joke. No way in hell has that shit seen playtesting.
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>>123569314
Shadows was one of the only bosses I managed to beat first try despite being rather shit at BB.
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>>123570496

Generally you should start at 25/50 or 50/25, then add points from there. There's plenty of weapons that go with either. If you're skl/str then you can also pump strength up a few points to use Gatling/cannons and put some extra points in bloodtinge.
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Is it worth dumping some points into arcane for a moonlight sword build, or should I just go straight quality?
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>>123570496
A couple extra points in END doesn't hurt if you're leaning more towards a STR build. If you can't put 15 in arcane, don't, but if you can then it's worth it IMO for the bone and roar alone.
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>>123570298
That sounds like a good idea
What drops the best charge gems?
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BL 51 here, with Arcane at 50. I just found Whirligig Saw and am wondering if I should use this for my arcane character. Is Whirligig Saw a valid weapon for arcane builds? Thanks.
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>People talk about how they one shot DLC bosses no problem.

I want to not believe you all so I can feel better about myself. I've died an embarrassing amount of times against every boss so far aside from Living Failures and Maria.
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>>123567221

>Ludwig, a dozen or so deaths.
>Living Failures, zero deaths.
>Maria, about five deaths.
>Orphan of Kos, more than twenty times. I lost count after a certain point.
>Laurence, two deaths so far. Haven't defeated him yet.

NG+++ with 35 VIT is hell.
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now that kos/kosm is over

is it plip plop or slip slop?
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>71BL NG
>Orphan
>can't summon anyone
Looking for bunch fags with 27% gems to make it quick. Pass: /bbg240/
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How do people solo darkbeast paarl. I always have to summon, even when it means I do literally 100% of the damage and all they do is get targeted I have never in all my time playing this game been able to get underneath him and hit his legs without gettling clipped by some random arm movement followed by him jumping away.

Which is hilarious because as soon as you get 3 R1's on a leg thats it the fights over because he's going to be stunlocked for the rest of it, but I literally cannot get it on my own and I don't know why.
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Anyone want to help me out with laurence? Bl:160 pass: bbg123
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>Go down well
>Faint ~Lalala~ in the background
>Look around
>See this

what do?
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>>123571619
>people that say to stop using the league oath gesture
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>>123570549
>return to DeS after years
>"ah my old nemesis, Flamelurker. Let's see how this puny simple boss fairs now against my vastly superior skills and years worth of experience from Dark Souls"
>repeatedly pushes my shit in
>still can't reliably beat him even with the Crescent Falchion
Some things just never work out.
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is there a chalice guide? i really dont want to slog through it with my new character to get gems.
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>>123572252
prepare ur bone blade lmao
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>>123567857
Thanks for the offer, I just managed to finish it after a co op partner died after the start of phase 2. Pretty easy once you figure out how to bait his lava breath and stay unlocked.
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Do Beast/Kin mode players take extra damage from saw/church weapons?
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>>123571619
>They just stand there and look at you

Everytime.
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>>123563061
Shitty phone posting edition
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>>123571328
weird as fuck, thanks
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>trying to beat Ludwig
>do less than 100 dmg to him each hit

This... Is going to take long

I already got him down to 30% once so I burning to finish him without leveling up yet
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>>123571979

Arc is what all the special attacks scale with.

>>123572079

I managed Maria (just barely, used every vial in my inventory and killed her with a pixel of health left) and Failures on the first go, but Orphan thrashed my ass for a solid hour of attempts.

Now I'm busy dying to Laurence, because there's no good place to be during his second phase after his legs randomly fall off.

>>123572183

He's really damn quick. To be perfectly honest, now when I go to kill him I make sure I'm coming back from Mensis with 19% gems and a +10 weapon so he gets staggered in two hits. So much less of a pain.

Then I get to Loran chalices and I suffer. Oh, how I suffer.
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I wish that weapons like the Kirkhammer, whirligig saw, etc. came with harnesses on their weapon models so that it doesn't look like you glue the weapon head to your back with magnets and shit. Like how swords get sheathes, except bigger

who agrees?
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>>123572115
It's clearly drip drop you human filth
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>>123572115
slpish splash is correct
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>>123571465
>get hit by one of logarius's quick attacks
>while i'm knocked down he hits me again, knocking me down
>while i'm knocked down he hits me again, killing me
what's the point in having health if 1 hit leads to a guaranteed death anyways
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>>123572576
>dripdropfags
>>
The official Bloodborne twitter just tweeted this picture.

https://twitter.com/Bloodborne_PS4/status/670209778375725056

Now why would they put Demon Souls in there? Demon Souls remake for PS4? Is this one of the games from that Sony deal?
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>>123572482
Saw weapons only apply to giant beasts like bosses, so I doubt it'd count against players. Church weapons apply to Cainhurst monsters, not kin, and there's no reason why they'd work against a player.
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>>123572296
Fug, don't have any, not sure if I can buy them yet either
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anyone want to help me with the stupid blood-letting beast boss in Great Pthumeru Ihyll layer 2? I just need to beat him so I can get the stupid root chalice. password is "plip"
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>>123572641
Bloodborne sequel.
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>>123572541
dris?

>>123571481
This guy didn't get the memo at all: ur ded m8, lie down
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>>123572641
because the ps4 is a fromsoftware machine, and so putting Demon's Souls on it is only fitting. Also remasters are great
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>>123572527
I do this when I invade, hosts get one gesture before I start pounding. Gank squads get zero though, summoning babbies don't deserve courtesy.
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>>123572183
you can stunlock him by switching between the two legs that cripple him. one of the easiest boss in the game.
>>
So considering willem holds the Eye rune saying that he specifically wanted to line his brain with eyes, and the fishing village experiments show that villagers had their heads drilled open to find the eyes, is it a safe assumption that this is what made laurence and willem split, and what Maria was disgusted to be involved in?
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i just accidentally wasted one of my 3 blood rocks on the rakuyo so this shit better be good
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>>123572753
was it the crown or the face or both
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>>123572183
Here's me murdering the chalice version for no particular reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Xe9Sp_t8ds
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>Haha time to get my Rakuyo! Can't fucking wait, alright down this well right? I remember the item description saying she cast it down there

>christ that weird shark whale cunt was bad, glad I hopped down here

>alright time to

>oh god

>oh god it has an anchor

>oh CHRIST ONE'S ON THE CEILING

>FUCK

>[inarticulate whale sounds]

>YOU DIED LIKE A BITCH SENPAI


S-so where's Simon's Bowblade?
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>>123572676
If you're good at parrying, you can still do it. You gotta be super on point with it though, otherwise you're probably going to get your colon re-routed.
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>>123572979
laurence and willem split because laurence wanted to use the Old Blood for healing stuff and willem thought that using the Blood was stupid, and dangerous. Maria was involved with whatever sick experiments that the Choir was doing on people in the research labs
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Wanna do a arcane build what ideally should my stats be? Also any hints?
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>Bloodletter
>50 BLT
a beast
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can i get a dlc weapons tier?

and also whether they are str/ dex or quality
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>>123572979
Maria stopped being a hunter after what the church did to Innsmouth. She vowed to help the patients and care for them.
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>>123573125

You get it from the dude wearing rags. He should be lying face down next to the second lantern in the Fishing Hamlet.

Be prepared for some really sad dialogue.
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>>123567221
Orphan>Ludwig>Maria>Failures>Laurence
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>>123573218

The transformed L2 is such a good AOE. The only problem is finding those 31% blood gems. I have 3 of them on my other BLT character with a chikage but I have no idea where I got them.
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>>123573224
There are no good quality weapons in the DLC. It's sad
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>>123573224
The Pizza Cutter is grossly overpowered
saif is funnest
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>>123573146
Yea, time for new rankings

Ludwig > Anchor Sharkman > Maria > Living Failures
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>>123572147
thanks bbg
>>
So /bbg/, how well do you think the Hunter and the Demon Slayer would fare if they switched places?
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>>123573305
Ah okay, I had been told it was one of the last things you could get and this fishing village seems like the end. Second bonfire then, okay I'll ignore the well for now and just keep pushing.

Can you even parry those monstrosities though? I found the only way to deal any decent damage was wait for them to do a swing or lunge, hope to god I don't get caught in a swing, and then immediately charge attack their assholes to do a visceral. I tried some gunshots but they weren't having any of that shit.
>>
Boom Hammer is fun!

>real sense of weight to the swing and the impact
>left hand doesn't have to be torch, can be anything
>huge reach
>decent AoE
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>>123573398
>There are no good quality weapons in the DLC. It's sad
Seems like you forgot about the moonlight blade tbph familia
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>>123573514
>don't want to rekt things with projectiles
pleb
>>
>>123573503
The parry windows are wonky but there
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>>123573030
how could i forget ur face bb
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>>123572641
I want to believe
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>>123572979

I don't think so. The fishing village is described as a sin of the church, which was founded after Laurence left Burgertown to pursue his experiments in pumping blood into people and seeing what happens. So it had to be after the split.

As far as placing it, there's a note in the lecture hall from Laurence that states "Willem was right, evolution without courage will be the doom of our race" or something like that. So the trip to the fishing village and the subsequent scouring of it by the church may have taken place after Laurence realized that just having the blood wasn't enough and he started searching for eyes, and after the fishing village excursion is when Maria threw her sword away.

That still had to be pretty early on, because Maria was a direct disciple of Gehrman and part of the original workshop.
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Please for the love of blood, help me with that shit face called Orphan of Kos!

Pass: bbg

Already ringing.
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>>123573503
You can parry the anchor wielding ones, and it helps a lot. The anchor swings are retardedly hard to dodge for some reason.

For the non anchor ones just make sure you're playing unlocked and they're pretty easy.
>>
Laurence is a piece of shit
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>>123572991
>it doesn't even turn into a bow
>it doesn't even have S scaling
kek'd
>>
>>123573583
>>123573398
Beast Cutter and Saif are amazing weapons, two of the best in the DLC
>>
I'm stuck on Orphan for three days straight now. I'm done. This PS 4 won't turn back on until I get something good on PS+ or Street Fighter comes out.
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>>123573305
>Be prepared for some really sad dialogue.

Sad if you're some kind of scrub that can't deal with invaders. Simon should've just played offline.

>>123573398

What about Beast Cutter, Saif and Church Pick?
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>>123573845
are you on NG++ or what?
>>
So when your summoner dies at the last second during co-op but you still get the prey slaughtered message and the insight and souls from helping out, do they have to redo the boss or does it count for them too?
>>
Is Moonlight blade the new memeblade? Or is the regular Ludwig blade still better for people without actual playskill?
>>
the real scary part of the orphan is the 30 minute waiting period between summons
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>>123573753
but akyo does have S scaling in skill
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Is online play (cooperation and pvp) active at the BL120 bracket? I kind of want to level up, currently 100, but I don't want to if that means it would decrease the chances of people summoning me to help.
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>>123573845
Let's beat him together. Pass: bbg

You in?
>>
Normal/Uncanny/lost Parasite? Which is best?
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>>123573871
I don't count any of those as qualify. They've got shit scaling in either str or dex
>>
Alright lads, this is going to sound stupid, but I can't remember what NG+ I'm on. Is there anyway to check?
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>>123573772
saif is for quality builds? i thought it was dex.
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>>123573957
Nope, A
it's bullshit
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>>123573913
From my experience if you get the echoes it counts

>>123573998
Nah check the stats
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>>123573949
>not gittin' gud and soloing him

You are cancerous beyond measure. You have to learn how to solo each boss before you run around co-oping it. Just go back to Fallout or Dragon Age kiddo. This ain't the game for you.
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>>123573962
Don't go over 110.
I got 3 characters at 104,106,107 and they get plenty of action
>>
Been avoiding spoilers about the dlc and just got it. Give me vague advice so I don't fall for obvious traps and general pitfalls.
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>>123573965
k ringing at door
>>
how are "blunt" and "thrust" attacks defined? does every physical attack in the game fall under one of these categories? if so, does that mean every type of attack from a sword-like weapon is considered "thrust" even if it's a swipe or something?
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>>123573982
Found it
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>>123574129
It's Kos, not Kosm
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>>123573398
dude, literally MLGS
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>>123574108

you're a very bitter person anon, let's just play videogames and have fun together
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>>123573753
>bowblade
Enjoy your poor moveset. Even stake has more
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>>123574157
Let's do yours first.
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>>123574129
This >>123574216
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>>123574324
can i go with you guys too? already beat mine but i'm willing to help
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Is the beastcutter really as shit as everyone's saying? I just tried out the moveset and it feels pretty good, but I don't think that's enough to justify the shit scaling
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>>123573604
>>123573682
Alright then thanks. Maybe after exams I'll just try the well again till I get it done. This goddamn anime sword better be worth it.
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>>123573984

Exactly, because you're profiting significantly from both. C/D or D/C is what a lot of quality weapons throughout the series have been. Not everything's going to be a B/B LHB.
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>>123574376
The more the merrier!
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>>123574182
There are actually four types of physical damage; regular, thrust, blunt and blood
Blunt is easily the weakest, while thrust is the strongest
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>>123574376
>>123574324
k im ringing beckoning bell at the fog door, pass is bbg
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>>123573949
More like 30 minute waiting period between the times he does one of the two attacks that are safe to attack into. The worst part about Orphan is how fucking tedious he is. There's no excitement. Just keeping your distance and waiting. And waiting. And waiting. And waiting. And then the second form one shots you, because you missed a single dodge and you get to wait again.
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>>123574401
Got no fucking damage and the whip is super long range, decent stagger but slow as molasses. One piece of advice DON'T FUCKING FORGET ABOUT THE OTHER MOVESET. It's actually pretty damn good when not transformed, people just forget and auto-roll whip for every encounter when they should adapt to close range or enemies with high resistance to staggering.
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>>123574460
Ringing the small one
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>>123567221
laurence 20+ deaths
ludwig 10ish deaths
Maria 2 deaths
orphan 1 death
living failures 0
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>>123571619
Makes me sick.
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For the love of Kos(m) somebody please help me kill Lewd-wig, the Accused/Holy Shit
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Is it generally accepted now that Yarnham birthed Mergo?

I remember people debating that a while ago even though it seemed to be pretty clear that she did but people said there wasn't enough evidence or it didn't fit their "theory"

but since we've essentially got the whole story and the game basically tells yyou it then she did right?
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Where I can found lost/uncanny dlc weapon?
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>>123574182

No, there's just regular damage as well. Thrust attacks are pretty easy to identify and even a weapon that has them usually won't have that property on all attacks, while blunt tends to be more all-encompassing on the weapons that have it; for instance, all physical damage on the wheel is blunt.
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>>123574269
>let's just play videogames and have fun together
I have more fun when I'm playing with people who aren't complete fucking pussies.

co-op is easy mode. Why even bother playing on easy mode?
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So saif is better for quality or dex builds?
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>summoned for Ludwig several times by the same guy

ganbatte, dude
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>>123563061
Nice edition

Its safe to say Pizza Cutter beats wheel in STR and fun. God I love this thing so much.
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>>123574537
Yeah, the non-whip moveset was what stood out to me. I just figured by the size that it would be a lot slower than it ended up being.
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>>123574623
Once you've found the weapon, the lost and uncanny variants can be found at any chalice messenger bath
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>>123574621
>I remember people debating that a while ago
They were debating it because they're autistic and hate loranon.

>accurate/correct lore theories rejected by the group because Loranon shared them

- Loran is a Pthumeru culture
- Cainhurst are Pthumeru descendants
- Mergo is the child of Yharnam and Oedon
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Can somebody help with Amygdala in Defiled Chalice?
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>>123572737
NEVER FUCKING MIND! I beat him myself. took like 50 tries on this shittly gemmed arcane build, but I did it.
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>>123574794
>chalice messenger bath
Only in 4-5 level dungeons? Fuck this shit
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>>123574794

That's kinda nice. Is it true for everything now?
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>>123574696
I wish it felt like it had more weight to it. It almost feels like a dex weapon with how fast it is.
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>>123574815
Pass is bbg.
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Rate my Hunter.
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>>123574687
>Help out with Ludwig
>90% of the time Ludwig will always kill the host with the MLGS AoE
>they just try lay into him while he blatantly charges up his AoE
>get summoned by someone that died from it
>they do it again and survive
>they do it again and die
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>>123573949
>not easily killing him solo on NG+
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>>123574886
Someone posted a depth 1 root chalice with one earlier I think
There's also one in layer 4 of the lower pthumeru chalice
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>>123573270
i doubt she was just there to 'care' for them. She was probably overseeing the operation but wanted to placate the patients with kindness.
When she saw the end results of the experiments (living failures) she probably killed herself then.
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What's the fastest, easiest glyph for farming endgame gems for an arcane build?
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What are the good spots to farm weapon upgrades mats? I'm kinda overwhelmed
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>>123574943
is pizza cutter the new meme weapon?
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>>123574803

>Cainhurst are Pthumeru descendants
>accurate or correct instead of total fanfiction
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>>123573407
pizza cutter is amazing, but the sound gets real annoying real fast
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>>123574116
ive never had much problems at 110 or even 120.
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You guys are fucking awesome, thanks for the help
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>>123575073
they are indirect descendants because the "vileblood" that was stolen is largely assumed to be Queen Yarhnams
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>>123574960

>summoned by another dude
>host just hangs back while me and the other summon wail on Ludwig
>suddenly gets one-shot when the boss jumps down on him
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>>123575184
we need to help the other one too right?
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>>123574460
Nice job. Let's do mine.
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>>123575058
For bloodstone shards, c'mon senpai you should have plenty

For Twin-bloodstone shards go to Hypogean Gaol if you're pre-blood moon. There's like 5 snatchers you can quickly kill for a good chance of twins.

If you're post blood-moon, go to Cainhurst and beat up gargoyles. They have a small chance to drop chunks too.

For chunks look up Chalice dungeon chunk farming, they typically go to harder dungeon bosses. There's a few chalices out there with guaranteed chest drops too.
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>>123575063
absolutely
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What are the optimal stats for the MLGS? I was going to go 50/25/25 but now I kind of want to put some more into Arc.
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>>123575265
ok give a second need to change my runes
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>>123574678
pls respond
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>>123575190

That's idiotic.
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>>123575259
I'm disappointed they removed the Umbasa bit, that was so cool.
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Orphan of Kos m8 we are waiting for you
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>>123575514
k ringing now
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>>123575063

Shit's just fun. Dat L2.

>>123575073

Maria actually gives us indication that this is true. Rakuyo describes her as being a "distant relative of the queen." You might ask "well which queen?" but it mentions Maria as not being a fan of blood blades in SPITE of being related to the queen. Given that Yharnam is the one queen that we know to be fond of blood blades, that's a pretty safe connection to make.

Then there's Maria's set, which is described as "constructed in Cainhurst" despite mostly looking like regular hunter-y type stuff, and reiterates that she was related to the "undead queen."

Given the already known connections between rapid poison, use of blood as a melee weapon and the idea of royalty between Yharnam and the Cainhurst castle, I'd say it's pretty safe to say that the nobles of Cainhurst are descended from the royal line of ancient Pthumeru.
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>>123573753
nah
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So is there a set level for PVP like there was in Dark Souls, or is it all over the place?

And I was thinking about making some new characters for separate builds, but I have no idea what builds there even are besides strength, would anyone mind filling me in on a few?
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>>123575656
80 - 120
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>>123575656
nightmare of mensis and nightmare frontier

You'll actually get the most pvp during these weekly fight clubs in one of the chalice dungeons
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>>123574678
either, it doesn't really matter.
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>>123567406

Sliders please. Thats the best face i've seen.
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Anyone else a bit disappointed we didn't find more Darkbeasts? With multiple items discussing them in the lore and how fearsome they were, wish we got a common enemy type to deal with.
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>>123574943
Pretty cool imo
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>>123575656
bl80-120. at bl80 you can afford ~50 in one stat or 25/25 in 2. at bl120 you can afford 50/50. in the middle you should do 50 in one and 25 in the other. this is a simplification, just a rough ballpark

any combo of 2 stats has a build EXCEPT primary str secondary tinge, primary arc secondary skill, or any combination of arc + tinge. all the others are viable builds
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>>123575073
I've got some stuff to post. Think about the following things.

This is a Pthumerian Labyrinth Watcher.
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I BE LOOKIN' FER SOME JOLLY CO OPERATION IN UPPER CATHEDRAL WARD, IF YER INTERESTED IN SLAYIN' SOME KIN, I'LL BE RINGING THE BELL 'ROUND THE FIRST LANTERN, COME ONE COME ALL THERE BE SOME AYYLIUMS TO SLAY!

BL60, password is bbg2810
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>>123574943
Goddamn the Constable Garb looks cool. Wish there more coats in Bloodborne that weren't dusters or trenchcoats.
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Good job guys
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>>123575656
>>123575656
Why do people need help building, just choose a stat and a few weapons and pump said stat to 40-50 and get vit to 40-50 and grab the reqs for the weapons you want if they aren't your primary stat
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Did you guys slay orpahn of kos? sorry about that i always forget about that attack going all the away around and never though it would 1 shot me
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>>123575970
Freaking awesome job!!!
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>>123575656
>like there was in Dark Souls
there was never a set meta for dark souls lol
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>>123575948
This is a Servant of Cain. The only major differences are facial hair and clothing.
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What are circle gems good for?
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>>123575984
I'd imagine they're asking about secondary stuff that wouldn't be immediately obvious if you didn't know everything about the game, such as strength builds needing 12 skill to use the pizza cutter, skill builds needing 10 bloodtinge to use reiter, and 15 arcane actually being a decent investment for buff tools.
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When is the redone guide with dlc info coming out? i need to know damage multipliers and more.
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What would be the benefit of killing the whores baby if I already gots 3 cords.
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>>123576103
Yes
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>>123576103

Putting in your guns.
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>>123576095
This statue is only found in Chalice Dungeons and in the Dining Hall of Castle Cainhurst
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>>123575948
>>123576095
And that also looks exactly like any heavily malnourished person. Now how about some actual text to back this up and not "hey look these kinda look the same if you squint and tilt your head"? That's the sort of thing that lead one idiot here to think bloodletting beast was Laurence.
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>>123576262
seems to me like a case of reused assets on the statue
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>>123575581
the thing about maria and blood blades is talking about her preferred hunter weapon and is referring to chikage, which is an iconic cainhurst hunter weapon. she doesn't like the weapon of a cainhurst hunter despite being from cainhurst.

the undead queen is the vileblood queen because she's immortal and literally comes back from death

a relation to the pthumerians is possible but taking it from maria's item descriptions is a huge stretch because they all consistently refer to cainhurst, which is explicitly named in them. you should not have to introduce a 2nd queen to explain something that is adequately explained by the explicitly mentioned one
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>>123567221
>Ludwig = 7 deaths
>Maria = 4 deaths
>Living Failures = 2 death
>Laurence = (haven't attempted yet)
>Orphan of Kos = 0 deaths
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>>123575581

It's not really that safe of a connection. Annalise could easily be the queen it's referring to, since she's still a blood-magic queen. The Cainhurst mentions only serve to reinforce this interpretation.
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>>123574803
all of those things are speculative

the reason this is annoying is because people come up with loose, circumstantial associations that are plausible, but then insists that they're Accurate and Correct, which is stupid
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This is the armor found littering the Chalices. It's the same as what we find decorating the hall leading to Annalise aswell as being depicted in a portrait being worn by a Cainhurst Noble.


>>123576296
>And that also looks exactly like any heavily malnourished person.
No. Their faces are nearly identical if you remove the facial hair. Right down to the weak nose. It's all part of the greater picture. Be patient.
> Now how about some actual text to back this up
I'm getting to that.

>>123576297
Miyazaki is more careful than that and you should know that. Name me some other "asset reuse" occurring within the game.
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>>123576543
I was really mad that the DLC didn't have this armor set, shit looks slick.
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Just beat the cleric beast on my first playthrough. Is everything supposed to be this easy? I beat the boss on my first try and never really felt like I was at risk of dying. He didn't do much damage and I could just keep dodging behind him and mashing R1.

Parrying so far feels a lot easier than souls games, too. It's like they just replaced chain-backstabbing big mobs to death with chain parrying them.

When does the game force me to gitgud?
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Tomb Prospecting is some crazy shit

Was difficult to get a good picture, but I think you can make out our friend Abhorrent Beast chilling outside his boss room here.
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>Kos Parasite
>280AR with simple dlc gems
>It's hits for 360-440
Whoa. Majestic. But why?
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>>123576543
Did you notice those shark skeletons we were puzzling about in the chalices littering the fishing hamlet?
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>>123563483
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>>123576543
>No. Their faces are nearly identical if you remove the facial hair
they're really not. the biggest discrepancy is that the servant has pupils. lack of pupils is the defining trait of pthumerians
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>>123576623
How about you play further and see yourself.
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>>123576623
Father Gascoigne is a parry skill check. It'll get difficult, or maybe you're really good. Keep playing. The bosses get ridiculous. Everyone of them has their weakness though.

Except Ebrietas. Fuck that shit.
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>>123576691

>280 AR

How? Even gemmed and with 40 arc, I'm only getting 180.
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I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere yet, but Maria obviously died attempting to birth a great one of some kind. This is why an umbilical cord is found in the abandoned old workshop, which ONLY come from human/great one birthing attempts.

It also reinforces the theory that the only women capable of bearing great one children are of the Pthumeru/Cainhurt lineage, like Yharnham herself, Annalise, Arianna and now Maria.

Also: FUCK OFF VAATI YOU THIEVING CUNT
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>>123576219
just guns?
aw
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>>123576691
the listed AR is the human form punch damage. when you go into kin mode, the attacks get a huge multiplier

this is true of literally every weapon and people are psychotically overfocused on paper doll AR. this is why LHB is only okay, and kirkhammer is a lot better than people realize
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>>123570428
>no new messages
Yes, but there's a few that only make sense in context of the DLC: 'amazon' for example bears no relation to the main game

>Big M had this shit all planned out

Don't sleep on big m
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>>123576543
>Their faces are nearly identical if you remove the facial hair
They most certainly do not, and I see no reason to be patient if you're trying to build up a theory using faulty data.

The forehead is different, the tilt and shape of the eye sockets are different, hell even the color is different. Try again.
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>>123576796
all 4 umbilical cords are accounted for IMO
2 from women in-game
one from mergo (ynarnham)
one from kos

before you say "orphan has the umbilical cord attached to his placenta" -- fishing hamlet is a nightmare about something that happened in the past
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Can anyone versed in webm for bakas tell me how you make a 30 second long clip under 3.0mb? How did you manage consistent quality in general? Is there a guide somewhere?
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>>123576791
227AR. I wrong. Uncanny Parasite from >>123575014
Tringle gem from fishing village.
Radial from mensis
And 18% atk radial from dungeon or main game. Can't remember
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Who wants to engage in jolly cooperation and help me kill laurence? password is bbg
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>punchy fist thing doesn't parry
what's the point of it?
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>>123577138
omw anon
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>>123577138

I'll be at the fog gate in a moment
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>>123565405
looks like a counter hit too. AWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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I don't care what you guys say about Laurence, but that nigga has the best song in the game, hands down.
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>>123576796
>>123577060
I don't really need to say anything, because you're making a statement without any data to back it up.
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>>123575694
>>123575720
>>123575921
Thanks for the help, I appreciate it.
>>
Now onto to evidence relating to characters and monsters

- Lost Child of Antiquity enemies are Cainhurst and Chalice only the screenshot I've attached is of Ihyll layer 3's lever room. It's crawling with them.
- Bloodlickers are only found at Cainhurst and inside Chalices
- Cainhurst Knife Ghosts and Chalice Frenzy Knife Ghosts are both weak to Righteous damage

- Arianna
>"A member of the old Healing Church would know that her blood is similar indeed, to precisely what was once forbidden." Blood or Arianna
>"Great One loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate, and Oedon, the formless Great One, is no different. To think, it was corrupted blood that began this eldritch liaison." - Third Umbilical Cord
>"Worn by the nobles of the old bloodline that traces back to the forsaken Castle Cainhurst." - Noble Dress
She's related to Cainhurst, doesn't have "Vileblood" and yet her blood is "forbidden" and Oedon decided to try to fuck her.

- Annalise
>"The inhuman beings known as the Great Ones imbued this Ring of Betrothal with some special meaning. In the age of the Great Ones, wedlock was a blood contract, only permitted to those slated to bear a special child." Ring of Betrothal
>"Remains of Loran infant infected by the scourge. A harbinger of curses and symbol of defilement." - Bastard of Loran
>"Speak not, those words. We have little need of a consort. Such a path would belike lead to further ruin. Thou'rt dear to Us. We would see no harm befall thee..." Queen Annalise marriage proposal dialogue

>>123576516
1+1+1+1+1+1=6 my friend. If you pile up enough evidence, it becomes stronger than the sum of it's parts.
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>>123577138
>stuck on laurence
>le meme boss
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>>123577296
>data
>video game
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>went through first DLC playthrough on as a str/skil build
>decide to go through it on my other character which is str/arc
>used Whirligiggity Saw
>want to use new str/arc weapons
>Hammer is a worse Tonitrus
>Arm isn't as useful for bosses as the Kirk
Welp.
Should I go for the Beast Cutter then?
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>>123577307
>Bloodlickers are only found at Cainhurst and inside Chalices
But anon now they're in the Hunter's Nightmare
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>people in /bbg/ RIGHT NOW
>who are posting RIGHT THE FUCK NOW
>have no idea that annalise is related to yharnam and are arguing over which one maria is related to

jesus christ guys
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Is it worth upgrading str and skl for any particular weapons if I'm playing an arcane build, or should I just leave them at base?

Speaking of which, does anyone have that arcane build guide pic?
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What do to dodge Living Failures meterorain?
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>>123577307
Sorry I posted early.

Relating to Annalise, she's the only NPC who recognizes the RoB and understands the weight of it's importance. She declines to marry you because she knows that Pthumeru was hit by defilement and curses because of fucking around with children outside of special blood contracts.

>>123577451
Oh right. I forgot about that. That's hard to figure out. But so is the presence of Loran Silverbeasts in Mensis/Frontier. Search me, because I don't know. But I don't see the theory crumbling under this change.
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>>123576623
Just make sure you never summon help.

Don't complain that the game is easy then pick easy mode.

You made your bed now
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>>123577567
stand behind the dancing flower
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>>123577567
Looking into the arena from the entrance, back up towards the near left corner. If you need to, just dodge left or right, they always come from the same spot.
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>>123577296
there is literally nothing wrong with reading an interpretation in a game with such a vague plot

what is wrong is insisting on their canon
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>tfw still can't beat Ludwig even though I'm level 46 with +6 Tonitrus
It hurts to be bad. I just want my moonlight greatsword.
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>>123564057
Why are you paying 120 dollars a year for ps+? Most people pay 50
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>>123577712
level up fgt.
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>>123576623
Congratulations, you fought the equivalent of the Asylum Demon.
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>>123577580
>Pthumeru was hit by defilement and curses because of fucking around with children outside of special blood contracts.
Where did you get this information?
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would you say bloodborne is your favorite souls game?

how would you say it holds up against dark souls?
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>>123577307
>1+1+1+1+1+1=6 my friend. If you pile up enough evidence, it becomes stronger than the sum of it's parts.
6 is still a small number, though

more importantly most of "your" details are consistent with many different explanations, e.g. the forbidden blood cainhurst stole from the church was ynharnham's
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Can someone help me clear Upper Cathedral Ward? I know the DLC is the hotspot, but I'm trying to progress so I can join you fuckers. Just need some help with this area though. Everything is spooky about this area.
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Is it worth putting any points into skill for the pizza cutter? I have 50 Str.
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So are the scaling gems now the way to go?

If I throw an arcane one on an elemental weapon, can I actually start getting ok returns from having over 50 arcane?

I assume pizza cutter sucks for arcane builds because it only has B scaling?
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>>123565056
Willem didn't establish the church, Laurence did. The choir just reverred his original teachings from burgerworth
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>>123577790
Read the previous post under the Annalise shit. Wedlock was a big deal and Great Ones cursed and defiled Loran children for being born outside of it. That's what a "Bastard" is.
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>tfw can't beat ludwig even though I'm level 70 with +9 BoM
Really fucking hurts.
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>>123577910
sure, set a password
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Thanks for the help good hunters
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Does anyone know an Isz FRC chalice with gargoyle enemies in it? I want to pick up some quick nourishing gems for my HMLS and don't want to bother with getting down to a layer 3 boss for abyssals.
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>>123577910
What's your level?
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>>123577875
I love Dark Souls too much and I've always loved Demon's Souls more than Dark Souls but BB is light years ahead of Dark Souls 2.
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>>123577580
>Pthumeru was hit by defilement and curses because of fucking around with children outside of special blood contracts.

see this is the kind of loose thing you keep doing. anyone whose paying attention can tell there's some kind of association between Yharnham and the Vileblood Queen in terms of their characteristics and what they're trying to accomplish.

this association supports multiple possibilities but then you go off and insist really specific things are canon, like a line of descent
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>>123577997
bbg2810
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Anybody got that image guide for unlocking chalice dungeons?
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>>123576623
>guys, the first boss was easy when does it get harder?
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>>123577892
>the forbidden blood cainhurst stole from the church was ynharnham's
But why would they WANT that blood if they didn't know the value/weight/importance of Queen Yharnam? Wouldn't Annalise and the Cainhurst Nobles want some her blood? A way to try and emulate the greatness of their ancestors?

>The Cainhurst way is a mix of nostalgia and bombast
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>>123577875

100% it's my favorite.

I think it keeps everything that was great about DkS and throws out the lesser parts.
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>>123577307
You're trying to hard, and you're going to pull something if you keep stretching like this.

>Worn by the nobles of the old bloodline that traces back to the forsaken Castle Cainhurst
This says nothing at all about Pthumeru. It states that it traces back to Cainhurst. It does not qualify as evidence for a connection between Cainhurst and Pthumeru.

>A member of the old Healing Church would know that her blood is similar indeed, to precisely what was once forbidden
Alfred states that the blood of Cainhurst is forbidden. Neither of these says it comes from Pthumeru, or implies such.

>Great One loses its child, and then yearns for a surrogate, and Oedon, the formless Great One, is no different. To think, it was corrupted blood that began this eldritch liaison
Again, they're talking about Cainhurst blood here and no connection between Pthumeru is stated.

>>123577580
If Annalise understood its weight as you claim, then she would not think you were proposing to her since you aren't a Great One. You act as if wedding bands don't exist in Yharnam.
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>>123567260
eric hanson.
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>constables gettup
we awari no seraph now
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>>123576623
Fight Ludwig as the third boss and get back to us.
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>>123578072
BL60, I'm in the werewolf room right now. bbg2810 is the pass.
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>>123578110
ringing at upper cathedral ward lamp
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>>123577875
bloodborne is amazing. game has too much swagga.
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>>123577968
scaling gems are the way to go. they have to be abyssal

weapon returns are still miserable after 50. this has to do with the core scaling formula and has nothing to do with the scaling rating

literally all physical weapons follow the same rule, ARC scaling = the average of STR and SKL + 10%. pizza cutter is no different in this regard, and is one of the best ARC weapons. it's ARC scaling is less than LHB because it's S/D scaling is less than ludwig's B/B, but it is a better weapon than ludwig's
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>>123578103
>like a line of descent
Arianna isn't vileblooded by her blood is similar enoguh to Queen Yharnam's to cause a repeat incident of what happened to Yharnam. Her blood is corrupt, but she's not a Vileblood. Riddle me that. It looks like actual genetic relation if you ask me.
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>>123578267
I should have access to it on my 43, be there in a moment
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why is every enemy in this game allowed to pivot around 360 degrees mid attacking and freely cancel all their recovery animations
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>>123577982
No, a bastard is a baby that was born a beast, as its own item description says.

Arguing lore is all fine and dandy, but once you start making things up and insisting you're right, that's when it's time to take a break.
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>>123576207
The satisfaction of one less abomination and killing a species traitor whore.
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how can i not be shit at bloodborne? i'm currently going through the dlc and it feels like it's hard for the sake of being hard. the big cthulhu guy with the bell axe just feels cheap
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>>123578196
>But why would they WANT that blood if they didn't know the value/weight/importance of Queen Yharnam?
well for one thing it appears to literally make you immortal
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>>123578252
anon that's not possible
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>>123578369
>>123578323
Ringing. Right next to the lamp.
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>>123577875

I always loved the souls series

and I have a raging hardon for H.P Lovecraft

Bloobblab is the Lovecraft game I've been waiting a very long time for
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>>123577875
Before the DLC I loved it, but I think overall I preferred DeS and DaS1. Now with this new content I honestly feel like it could be my favorite. The lategame coop is fucking wonderful, the bosses are great, levels are fun, weapons are versatile and plentiful and fix the early game variety issue.
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Is this okay, or do I want more arcane and less of other stuff?
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>>123578369
the patch doesn't remove lvl limits when a password is set?
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>>123578472
dont just try to progress, focus on learning the enemies and the progression will come
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>>123578358
>Arianna isn't vileblooded
she's much more likely to be a cainhurst descendant than a descendant of yharnham. she's wearing a cainhurst dress, cainhurst is much more proximate, and she has no pthumerian features
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>>123578502
It's not possible in NG, but he'd be right if he were talking about NG+. If you picked up the sword hunter badge in NG, you can skip both Cleric Beast and Bloodstarved Beast and just buy the Emblem right away.
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>>123569965
Church pick a best.
>that untrricked charge attack
>that tricked charge attack combo
>that ridiculous speed
>that super fast L2 that you can combo off any attack chain and stuns enemies
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>>123578502
gascan -> amelia -> ludwig
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>>123578220
>This says nothing at all about Pthumeru.
No, but it proves she's a Cainhurst.
> It does not qualify as evidence for a connection between Cainhurst and Pthumeru.
It's part of the greater picture. I'm truly sorry you're too stupid to hold a few points in your head long enough to see them add up.
>Alfred states that the blood of Cainhurst is forbidden.
Actually Alfred states a Byrgenwerth Scholar stole forbidden blood and brought it to Castle Cainhurst. Byrgenwerth was conducting Tomb expeditions. It's blood from the Labyrinth. It's Pthumeru blood.
>If Annalise understood its weight as you claim, then she would not think you were proposing to her since you aren't a Great One
That's the flimsiest claim I've ever heard. A marriage proposal is a marriage proposal. She just knows how butthurt a great one might get if she does it. She's already pretty deeply committed to Oedon, given all the blood dregs she keeps consuming.
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>>123578502
That is completely possible

>Gascoigne
>Amelia
>Ludwig
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Did they fuck with Eileen's quest or is this the same old buggy shit?
I killed Cleric, Gascan and BSB and she still hasn't left her first location
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NEED 2 PEOPLE AGAISNT THE EDGELORD OF KOS

PASSWORD IS KOSM

IM LEVEL 81


RINGING NEAR THE LAMP BEFORE THE ELEVATOR

pls help

free vermin
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Finally reached the place with singing brains, and I'm beginning to remember why these things are fucking awful.

How the fuck do you get past/kill these things?
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>>123578573
that's great. IMO i would MUCH rather have access to a bunch of good weapons than 60-70 arcane. i think if you build an arcane build and can't use pizza cutter you're a fool

personally i would go as far as 46 vit to get 20 str for wheel and brisket dinner, but pizza cutter is sufficient
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>>123578573
50 arcane is fine if you just want to use weapons. Your tool damage won't be worth the bullet cost without at least 70 arc, though.
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Anyone around level 54 wanna come help me with Reborn One?
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>>123578589
we should really put this in the OP, i feel like i have to say it every time
if i take a higher level character it will downscale me until i do damage comparable to the level of the host
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>>123578760

Parry and visceral through the frenzy damage.
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>>123577875
DLC really opened it up in a variety of ways. There's such an immense level of love and polish in every element of it. It's my fave now.
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>>123578493
>well for one thing it appears to literally make you immortal
and Annalise seems to hate that.

>Enough. If only Our life was so easily forfeit... Grieve not, for Us.
>How sad this is. If only Our life was so easily forfeit...
This is when you attack her.
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>>123570994
It also has no reload time like the regular cannon so you can spam 2 shots really quick. I mainly just like it's looks, to bad you can't fold the stock out like the church Giants do
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>>123578778
Which stats should I cut down on to reach 70 arc?
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>>123578819
I've barely even had experience with these stupid things.
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>>123578728
Did you open the gates?
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Can you parry Ludwig 2nd form?
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>>123578778
that's definitely not true. with 50 arc i spam executioner's gauntlets in D5 FRC all the time. hits bosses for ~700. cursed brew hits for like 420, blacksky for like 220. these are all clearly useful
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>>123578916
Nothing, just level up to 120 or so if you ever feel like having really strong hunter tools
But having less than 50 vit is suicide, and without some strength and skill you're pretty much limited to the saw spear and kos parasite
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>>123564283
They look awesome, keep them coming.
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How do I make Parasite good?
What type of gems, what Arc, etc?
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Don't forget that Maria is Cainhurst related and can not only use Blood magic like Yharnam, but channels fire just like Pthumerians could.

If you're in denial about this, you need to take a moment and reconsider.

>>123578621
>she's much more likely to be a Cainhurst descendant than a descendant of yharnham.
You're missing the point completely. Cainhurst are Pthumeru descendants. Calling somebody a Cainhurst descendant implies the other.

Cainhurst was using blood ministration and cleaning up the beast plague long before it was popular in Yharnam. Why might that be? Perhaps they're based on the major local culture that based itself on blood ministration and magic?
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>>123578927

They always try to hug you. Just before they grab, shoot (preferably a scattergun so they stagger if you mistime it). Collect the visceral and hopefully the frenzy will trigger while you're invincible from the visceral animation. Continue until dead.
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>>123578525
ringing now if you're still waiting
had to run up and unlock the area
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>>123578886
i think that's because she's literally locked in a torture device. in that case yes, immortality is a curse
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Urghhh, why'd the Laurence fight have to be in such a small room, and why's the fucking camera so annoying, and why do his moves randomly one shot me.
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>>123579072
>just level up to 120
nice try reddit
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>>123579158
>You're missing the point completely. Cainhurst are Pthumeru descendants.
i thought that's literally the point that's under debate in this whole conversation

>Cainhurst was using blood ministration and cleaning up the beast plague long before it was popular in Yharnam.
where are you getting this from? the healing church had to already exist in order for cainhurst to steal something from it
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>>123579195
We don't know if the mask is a torture device though. We know she hates it, but that's about it. It could be part of the greater ritual of beckoning a child of blood to her womb.
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>>123579158
>but channels fire just like Pthumerians could
explain
i am unfamiliar with this

>>123579237
what's your vit? i have a 30 vit character that doesn't get one-shotted by any of his moves, except maybe that one where he shoots lava out of both holes. could be counter damage?
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>>123564283
New to this general but you are already a cool guy in my book.
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What's the strongest weapon in the new dlc? Church pick is pretty awesome.
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is anyone having psn difficulties?
ringing bells doesnt even provide me with a message that im searching
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>>123579190
Ringing at Bribri now.
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>>123579237
Get the Yanamura armor for that fire resist
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>>123578916
i honestly think 70 is a joke build intended for glass cannon coop and funny pvp videos
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>>123579386
her final phase adds fire to all her attacks
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>>123579391
well what do you mean by strongest?
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>>123577875
I've been waiting a long time for a Lovecraftian horror game, and the new Amnesia was a shitshow, so I was starved of some good eldrich shit.

I did not know the new unrelated Miyazaki game about werewolves would give me what I so desperately craved.
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do you hear the ocean /vg/?
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>>123578784
Nevermind got him
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>>123570536
It's rather difficult to wield a Kirkhammer on a new game before killing the Clerical Beast
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>>123579385
"Yet Our people are murdered, and We are prisoner to this wretched mask" implies their murder and being a prisoner are related, and this is all in the context of a big anti-executioner rant
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>>123579491
most combat effective? Bow blade is kinda shit in terms of actual fighting but pretty awesome looking. Assuming you have a suitable build for each weapon ie 30 all stats for instance
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>>123579393
The Beckoning Bell has been fucking me like that since the patch now. Only works when I use a password to summon someone now.

>>123579439
Ah, good luck then. Don't feel like running through spookyville just yet. Glad you didn't wait for though, I'd feel like a real dick just bailing at the last moment if I held you up.

>>123579483
No I mean how the Pthumerians channeled fire. That's what your post said, yeah? I know she uses fire, I just want to know how the Pthumerians used fire because I can't think of anything aside from the base hollow enemies that sometimes have flaming weapons.
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So hows that dlc
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>>123578686
If you think that adds in to the greater picture, then you are absolutely terrible at seeing the big picture. You seem to be working off an assumed framework, and then trying to fit bits of evidence into your presupposed framework. This is more commonly called 'cherry picking', a term I hope you're familiar with.

Proving Arianna is a Cainhurst is all well and good, but this does not show that Arianna is also Pthumerian until a connection between Cainhurst and Pthumeru can be established, nor does Arianna being related to Cainhurst establish a connection between them and Pthumeru.

Fact1: A Byrgenwerth scholar stole forbidden blood and brought it back to Cainhurst. Fact2: Byrgenwerth was conducting tomb expeditions. Fact3: Whoops, we seem to be missing the link that implies the stolen forbidden blood came from the labyrinth. Yes, it is absolutely possible that this is the case. However, this connection cannot be determined until a connection between Cainhurst and Pthumeru is established.

Matey, literally all of your points would only prove a link between Cainhurst and Pthumeru if, and only if, that link is assumed to be true in the first place. Yes, I'm pretty sure the two are in fact related given Queen Yharnam and Maria's fighting styles, but nothing you've posted up to now is sufficient.
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>>123579332
>"The old nobles, long-time imbibers of blood, are no strangers to the sanguine plague, and the disposal of beasts was a discrete task left to their servants, or knights, as they were called for the sake of appearances." - Reiterpallasch

Seems to be a different situation. Nobles imbibed blood before the idea of a "Vileblood" existed.


>>123579386
Fire magic is a distinctly Pthumerian abilility. Other than Laurence, it's almost only Pthumerians and Maria who use it.
>Watchdog of the Old Lords
>Keeper of the Old Lords
>Pthumerian Elder
>Loran Cleric Beasts
>Labyrinth Ritekeepers
>Labyrinth Demon Dogs
>Beast Possessed Soul
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>>123579537
That's a draw of "The Other Gods" story?
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>>123579332

The blood was stolen from Beer N' Wurst, not the church.
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>>123578573
You can put 2 points in endurance.
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>>123579483
he's talking about "the pthumerians could channel fire"

the only one i can think of is pthumerian elder, who is wielding a flaming weapon

i guess the witches throw generic fireballs
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>>123579658
Is it? I've been raping the PvE when cooping with it, but that is on a twink. The charge shot is gorgeous.
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Accursed Brew or Blacksky Eye?
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>>123578686
>She just knows how butthurt a great one might get if she does it

What on earth makes you think the Great Ones would give a fuck? Oedon fucked a literal hooker instead of Annalise.
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>>123579673
there are pyromancers, i think they're called keeper of the old lords or something. some pyromacer beasts too
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>>123579673

There's also Watchdog and Pthumerian Elder, they use fire extensively.
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can anyone in the range of BL53 come and help me do Yar'hagul? I'm at the first lampstone.
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>>123579714
>this does not show that Arianna is also Pthumerian
HER BLOOD IS THE SAME AS THE FORBIDDEN BLOOD THAT MADE ANNALISE INTO A VIELBLOOD.

Maybe capslock will get it through your thick head.

>However, this connection cannot be determined until a connection between Cainhurst and Pthumeru is established
That's ludicrous.
>Matey, literally all of your points would only prove a link between Cainhurst and Pthumeru if, and only if, that link is assumed to be true in the first place.
No, you just keep forgetting Arianna.
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>>123578354
neato, thanks anon

I wanted to make a gimmick fire stakedriver build for the damage (plus over 50 arc for hunter tool damage), but couldn't decide if a few extra points in skl for pizza cutter would be worth it.

Do you happen to know if boom hammer would be okay with nourishing/arc scaling+ with those kinds of stats? (18/12/-/65)

I know it's kind of a meme like stake driver and I would think it would do even worse damage on an arcane build because it seems like the fire damage is there exclusively for the mechanic behind the weapon, sort of like how BoM only has arc to prevent buffing.
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>>123579719
>Fire magic is a distinctly Pthumerian abilility.
>Loran Cleric Beasts
>Labyrinth Demon Dogs
>Beast Possessed Soul
you have a decent case, don't weaken it by padding it
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>drop onto micolash in the second phase
>starts casting call beyond
>hits me mid air
>uses it again to hit me as soon as I get up
>dead before i've even had a chance to move wearing the highest arcane resist equipment I have

what on earth is the deal with this fight, I swear he does more damage now
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>>123579880
omw what's the pass?
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>>123579723
Probably just inspired, these are from the last comfy /x/ Lovecraft thread I was in.
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>>123579719
>>123579865
>>123579878
Oh fuck how did I forget all of those. Right, okay, I'm on board now. Forgive the momentary stupidity.
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>>123579719
Explain the Beast Possessed Soul located right below the old workshop.
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>>123579956
i don't even know how to set a pass, as i've never done it, but i'm getting no summons so being paired might not be a problem?
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>>123579587
>before killing the Clerical Beast
You can quite literally leave Cleric Beast until it's the 2nd last boss in the entire game m8, he's completely optional.
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>>123579537

>bloodborne first comes out
>"haha yeah werewolf hunting is gonna be pretty cool"
>pass the 1/4 mark of the story
>suddenly
>everything has too many eyeballs
>get dragged into the nightmare of an elder being that both is and isn't asleep
>enemies that can make your brain literally explode from trying too hard to process what its seeing
>slug magic
>the revelation that the cathedral in the center of town has the fucking avatar of Shub Niggurath living under it
>motherfucking Innsmouth in the expansion

this is the fucking game I've always dreamed of playing.
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>>123579857
>What on earth makes you think the Great Ones would give a fuck?
BASTARD OF LORAN. I've already posted my evidence and reasoning. Read the fucking thread

>>123579943
>you have a decent case, don't weaken it by padding it
I'm not padding. Loran Cleric Beasts are basically Scourge Affliced Elders. They even wield a metal staff to channel it. Just like Elder.
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>>123579673
No problem, I appreciate you trying to help though.

>>123579439
BL60 password is bbg2810
Ringing at Ebrietas door.
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>>123580021
go to settings>Network>and a put a password then post it here
is not that hard anon
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>>123580067
You need to kill him to get the badge to buy the Kirkhammer.
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>>123579815
I just find that the melee form has a weak set list despite having power. It's transformation gives it a range that deals underwhelming damage, not to mention, it's not suitable for fights against bosses or huge mobs.
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>>123578735
Im comin

Also did you guys know you can organize your weapons based on if you have gems on em?
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>>123579929
boom hammer will suck, unfortunately. i've tested it. i have this exact build with 25 STR at bl112

my advice is to go 16/12, make a back up save, and then test other weapons. tbqh i would rather have church pick at 14 skl than brisket dinner at 18 str, but if you can why not both
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>>123580143
oh okay, password is obama
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>>123579641
>implies their murder and being a prisoner are related
Sure. Still doesn't confirm torture though. That's a tough one to argue.
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>>123579965
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>>123579689
It's great.
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>You must be the one that killed Gasoline.

>yfw senpai notices you
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>>123580204
fucking pointless compared to being about to manually put them in any order you want

I don't understand why they removed that feature. Do they have something against people who want to swap weapons on the fly?
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>>123580134
>Loran Cleric Beasts are basically Scourge Affliced Elders. They even wield a metal staff to channel it. Just like Elder.
this is padding
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>>123580174
>huge mobs
I've been relying on the R2 if I get surrounded, it seems to work pretty well.

And for bosses that I can target the head, like Bribri or Amy, its great.
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>>123579926
>her blood is the same as the forbidden blood that made Annalise into a Vileblood
That isn't the point we're arguing here. We're arguing whether or not that blood in question is indeed of Pthumerian origin.

As previously stated, Arianna being related to
Cainhurst does not determine that Cainhurst is related to Pthumeru. You've elaborated much on a number of things that would also be true if that statement itself were true, but failed to present evidence that would determine the veracity of the statement itself.

The game goes to great lengths to not explicitly state it, much as Fromsoft does with a number of other stupid things like not explicitly stating if Manus was the furtive pygmy or if the god mentioned in DeS's opening cinematic was the Old One if he also created the Old One.

I'm not disagreeing that Queen Yharnam is most likely the origin of Cainhurst's blood. I'm saying your arguments add nothing to the matter.
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>>123579973

Although interestingly, we can now add #1 Vicar Laurence to the pile of flame users. Is that because he dug far enough into chalice dungeons to unlock Pthumerian magic, or just got enough insight to do the same from his comfy Grand Recliner?
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>>123563061
Just found a pretty safe tactic for Orphan of Kos. Equip Clawmark, the rune that regains your health after V attack and Formless Odeon or the rune that restores your QBullets. In the first phase keep your distance and find attack you can parry. After a while you'll be able to get through the first phase with little to no damage.

The second phase if of course tougher so I'll post more once I finally beat that fucker.
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>>123580375
No it's not. It's another example of a Pthumerian wielding pyromancy.
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>>123579689
It's shit because it's only for the truly hardcore Bloodborne fans due to all the bosses having RNG attacks that do too much damage
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Hey guys, what is the build for moonlight blade ? Arcane build seems to work like whit with it ? Is it quality like ludwig ?
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>>123578735
is kosm in all caps?
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>>123580072
I haven't gotten past Living Failures wait, I can't wait. I lost my shit when a lady-snail fell from the sky in Hunter's Nightmare though.

>>123580204
Huh.

>>123580289
Neat.
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>>123580472
>RNG
people need to learn what this means
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How many of those brain mushes are there in the research hall? and how many do i have to give that chick? pretty sure i've killed all of them now and only got 2
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>>123579461
more
like 99 arc with 10 vit
with 70 arc with you can have 40 vit at 98 while keeping everything at base other than vit/arc
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>>123580395
>We're arguing whether or not that blood in question is indeed of Pthumerian origin.
It was. It beckoned Oedon for a second time and was taken from the Labyrinth by Byrgenwerth. Occam's Razor asshole. This is by the far simplest explanation.

You're just railing against it because you hate reading between the lines or don't know how to. It's a common problem with US Public School educations.
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>>123580134
the bastard of loran thing didn't even make sense

i mean i guess you're saying it's a "bastard" because it wasn't born to a Great One, and because it's a "harbinger of defilement" that proves the cause of the beast plague is having a baby out of wedlock with a great one

that's incredibly fucking loose and basically assumes your interpretation beforehand rather than showing it
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>>123580141
"Free" vermin at Ebrietas story fog door.
BL60
Pass is bbg2810

Send help.
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>>123580134
>BASTARD OF LORAN. I've already posted my evidence and reasoning. Read the fucking thread
I've been reading the thread, and suddenly you're trying to say that beasts are Great One babies. You've gone off in a completely different direction now.

However, I have noticed that you seem to get angrier and angrier when people closely inspect your theories and point out flaws, but then you fail to answer their questions and instead repeat the thing they're questioning and berate them for "failing to comprehend/read". They read you loud and clear, and they've pointed out an error in your reasoning. Why be angry, when this would normally be cause to celebrate? Polishing your reasoning is the entire point of a debate.
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>>123578735
This >>123580506
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>>123580351

Given that they used runes to remove ringswapping, I'd actually say yes, they do hate people swapping weapons on the fly.
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>>123580645
be there in a sec
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>>123580281
>Sure. Still doesn't confirm torture though. That's a tough one to argue.
it would be physically impossible to wear an iron mask and not have it be torture

think about the weight. think about what would happen to your face's hygiene
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>>123580235
>try to run past everything
>thought i had memorized the pattern

sorry bro
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>>123580217
I know the pick is good, but I don't really want it on this build. I was mostly looking for options that would net me extremely high damage and pizza cutter just happened to have almost the same stat requirements as stakedriver.

I'll probably mostly be spamming the new soul arrow for damage anyway. I'll either go 18/9 or 18/12.

I take it moonlight isn't even good as a gimmick projectile weapon, either?
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>>123580597
>i mean i guess you're saying it's a "bastard" because it wasn't born to a Great One
No. To be a bastard, you must be born outside of wedlock. The ring proves that Wedlock was a big deal to Great Ones. So we have cursed/defiled bastards and godly beings who really care about marriage and weddings. The connection is pretty clear.

Be honest: You weren't aware of the dictionary definition of bastard.
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>>123580739
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>>123580072
yeah lovecraft crazy shit. this world is fucked up and it's awesome.
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>>123580753
it's i'm ringing the bell again
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>>123580725
pretty stupid thing to do when it just adds more depth to the game
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>>123574537
This. It's got a really good feeling of "THWACK" to it when you hit stuff.
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>>123580487
Please, I want to go arcane but I need to be sure
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>>123580145
>what are chalice dungeons
Step up senpai.
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>>123580661
>suddenly you're trying to say that beasts are Great One babies
No I'm not. That's your complete lack of basic english reading skills.
>Polishing your reasoning is the entire point of a debate.
I've polished it to a shine. It's basically coherent and supported enough for Vaati to steal and turn into a video for patreon bux. I'm here to try and share this information with people who may not have noticed all these smaller plot elements and what they add up to.
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>>123580759
>1958
>2476

But dont watchers have about 7000 hp?
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If the Church Pick is an apology for making the Lucerne in DaS complete shit, then we're good, Fromsoft
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DO NOT FEED THE LOREANON
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>>123578982
do I have to open both now?
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>>123580806
>Be honest: You weren't aware of the dictionary definition of bastard.
of course i am. what i wasn't aware of was how the definition tied into what you're trying to say, because your interpretation sure as hell isn't obvious in-game

honestly if you think i'm so underage then there's no point in this conversation. the inevitable conclusion anyway is that people are going to hate you if you keep flooding the thread
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>>123580957
that's not a problem
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>>123580909
not really worth beating the Cleric Beast as Nigel Thornberry with, that's what
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>>123580909
You really think a new player is going to leap right into chalice dungeons or even know that they contain variants of weapons? I mean he could not be new to the game but why else would he be summoning for Cleric Beast if he wasn't?
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>>123580594
>It was
This is the problem with all of your posts. Again, and again, and a third time I'll say: your arguments only seem rational if you first assume that the conclusion is true. When approached in the correct manner by examining the evidence first, we see that there is no evidence within the game for a connection between Pthumeru and Cainhurst.

Occam's Razor, my friendly associate, is not accomplished by adding more stuff until you can reach the conclusion you want. If you have to add more information, then you aren't using Occam's Razor correctly. The simplest explanation here is to note that there isn't enough evidence to support the statement, rather than conjuring evidence from the depths of one's own asshole.

And I don't care how frustrated you are with me, stooping to personal attacks will not do anything to help your position. You are consistently failing to answer any questions raised against your theory. Accept it with grace, not hostility.
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>>123580739
ringing
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>>123581054
>your interpretation sure as hell isn't obvious in-game
Nothing about Miyazaki's storytelling style is obvious like that.
>honestly if you think i'm so underage
I don't think you're underage, but you were acting as if the definition of "bastard" wasn't obvious.

>i mean i guess you're saying it's a "bastard" because it wasn't born to a Great One
This is what made me lose faith in your grasp of the meaning of the term.
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I've never understood. Can someone explain how beast pellets actually work? What does the meter do?
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>>123581042
Not sure, I just open all the gates and she moves
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>>123580759
I run Moonlight on a 25 Skill, 35 Str and 40 Arc build and I have no complaints, it's a tiny bit low damage wise for how slow it is but the special attacks are all great
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Anyone have that PVP vid of the three-Micolash group in Mensis?
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>>123580289
>15 mana
Would this ever see actual use?
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>>123581162
>Occam's Razor, my friendly associate, is not accomplished by adding more stuff until you can reach the conclusion you want
i like this one, i'm going to use it
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>>123581240
Your physical damage increases and your defense decreases the higher your bar. Once you pop a pellet (or use the Beast Claw in its tricked form) all of your melee attacks build the bar up for however long the effect last, which is like a minute or something.
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>>123581162
>You are consistently failing to answer any questions raised against your theory
Actually I'm answering all of them and providing copious evidence and supporting reasoning. Just like usual. You're doing the same thing you always do; Pretending there's enormous flaws and gaps in my reasoning, while neither sharing them or pointing out alternatives.
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>>123581293
3rd turn polymorph, reason i quit playing. there was also a ton of mana rush in those sets as well
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>>123581309
>he doesn't slot gems into his Occam's Razor
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>>123581054
>>123581162
How new are you two? He's a well known moron who shits on any opposing theories by calling you a retard until you agree with him. That's all he does, post ridiculous theories and calls anons who don't agree with him variations on the word "stupid".
>inb4 a reply calling me a retard/stupid etc

>>123580985
>>123580985
>>123580985
Stop. You're all shitting up the thread.
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>>123580950
Consider the following:

If literally everyone is disagreeing with you for the same reasons, you cannot say they're the ones who are bad at english. You are either failing to communicate your idea correctly, in which case you should probably prioritize that right now, or your theory is fallacious out the ass and you're simply desperately trying to discount anything against it by saying everyone else is just too stupid to understand.

Relax, take a deep breath, and bow out. You've spent far too much time polishing this theory of yours alone, without having it reviewed by other people. Show it around, listen to the questions people ask, and if they cannot be answered then you've probably screwed up your logic somewhere.
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Anyone up for invading the fuck out of Hunter's Nightmare first lamp area?

>>123580424
Good hunter, looks like Martin Mull
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>>123581293
It sees shitton of play because there are tons of ways to put it on the field without paying its mana cost
You don't get the turn skip in that case but you still get a 15/15 flier with protection that nukes their field with every attack
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Randoms are worthless, anyone wanna help with Orphan?
Level 75 password is bbg
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>>123581231
>you were acting as if the definition of "bastard" wasn't obvious
i said "bastard" = born out of wedlock with a Great One, hence the curse, because Great Ones are jealous

you meant "bastard" = born out of wedlock in general, because Great Ones are totally into marriage in general, hence the curse

both are consistent with the meaning of the word bastard and franklyy mine is much more direct (assuming this whole line of argument to begin with, which i don't)

i have no idea why you're getting smarmy over this. you're trying to treat me like i don't know english but i'm starting to wonder if you do
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to the person helping me out in yar'hagul

i got glitched in the elevator and then i ended up under it

rip

im going to go for a bit but ill be back later if you still wish to help. thanks
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>>123581289
nvm i got it
http://youtu.be/TN4XW0RRqDg
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>>123581228
Thank you so much.
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http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7979

is this build shit?
Haven't decided fashion yet, since I haven't seen the dlc outfits.

any suggestions or tips on what I should change of it?
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>>123581565
sure m8
>>123581536
i'll help you then let me change characters and i'll ring at fog gate
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>>123581148
How do you know he's new m8? Could have alt characters.
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>>123581463
>If literally everyone is disagreeing with you for the same reasons
But it's not literally everyone. Not to mention there's multiple users in the thread sharing their astonishment that people even disagree with the idea that Cainhurst is Pthumeru. It's a common and obvious theory.
> Show it around, listen to the questions people ask
I have and I do. There's no holes. Show me the holes. You'll pretend like one of my conclusions is based on a leap of faith or assumption, I'll show you the evidence and reasoning that proves you wrong, and you'll ignore the post and continue to pretend I can't support my theories.
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Going to fight Kos
Level 87, around the elevator and hall to Kos.

Password is: doll

>mfw I don't know what to expect
Someone give me a good time.
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>Lorefags
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>>123569314
Hey mang, got some source on that?
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Just fought Gascoigne, that was a really solid boss. I'm surprised something as mechanically simple as parry spamming could actually be so fun in practice. It took me 3 tries and I definitely felt more confident reacting and adjusting my timing one the 3rd one.

What upgrade level should my weapon be moving beyond here? I've got a +1 saw cleaver right now and while I've been exploring as much as possible, I'm not sure if I've missed anything important yet.
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>>123581663
Hey Loranon
move a little closer
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>>123581359
>you
Literally who? I suspect you may not be as good at distinguishing between anonymous people as your post is trying to suggest.
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>>123581463
this guy is treating you with an unreasonable amount of dignity and you should take his advice

>>123581416
oh fuck, this is loreanon? i fucked up, sorry. i'd only heard about it before
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>>123581579
>25 vit
i hope to see you on a pvp so i can nuke the shit out of you
at least 40vit anon
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>>123581579
>26 vit
you're going to die
get it to 40-50
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>>123581634
I just said why I assumed he was new. Like literally half of my post is dedicated to answering that before you asked it. He could totally be some veteran player and I could totally be in the wrong in assuming that he's new because he's summoning for Cleric Beast but I really can't think of another reason why anyone who has killed Cleric Beast once would have any trouble with him ever again.
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>>123581769
Anybody can deny an identity to try and make somebody look bad. But you're the one who keeps repeating that same basic post and fundamental lack of reasoning ability.

>>123581776
>because some people made a meme about somebody, that makes his ideas wrong and his posts cancer
I'm almost glad you're going to avoid talking to me. You're not the brightest fella.
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is this some kind of elaborate honeypot to trap vaati? like he copies this elaborate shit that no one else believes, and then we have irrefutable evidence he's a plagiarist?
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>>123581714
Anywhere from +1-+3 is good until you get to Hemwick. By then you'll be going from 4-6
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>>123581714
Upgrade anything you want for now.
Anything that requires Blood Chunks will usually be the things you know you're using for the rest of the game since Twin Blood Stones are easy to grind for in near mid-game.

Saw Cleaver is a good starting choice.
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>>123581579
too many damage stats

your hp is too thin because of it
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>>123581663
This is like trying to teach chess to a brick. But if arguing like this is what makes you happy, then I'm happy to leave you to it.
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>>123581915
the "meme" is literally the widely-shared observation that your ideas are wrong and your posts are cancerous

it's not the meme that makes you wrong, it's that you're wrong that begets the meme
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>>123581674
Someone please respond. I don't want to be stuck here for 30 minutes.
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Guys, where did Eileen go? I killed the Cainhurst Hunter in the Cathedral, she gave me her tune and badge, is she kill?
Pls tell me she's not kill.
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>>123581915
You're too shy shy, hush hush, eye to eye
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POWDER KEGS WERE HERE

EXECUTIONERS ARE LOSERS
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Anyone have a build that can use both the wheel and the moonlight sword effectively?
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>>123581674
you dont fight kos, you fight an orphan of kos
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Making an arcane build, which gems should I look out for early-ish to make this shit work?
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>>123582178
She's kill.
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>>123582178
she had a hard life
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>>123582250
Does it really matter? I've seen people refer to it as both. Now get in here, anon.
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>>123582207
YOUR'EE MOTTO A SHIT AND FUCK OFF GUNBOYDDS GO FUCK THE OTO

BEASTS KING
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>>123582292
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>Getting to Living Failures was harder than Living Failures.
Also MAN what an easier boss fight than Ludwig.
Then again I don't think NG+ Ludwig was balanced
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>>123582341
YES IT MATTERS THE LORE IS IMPORTANT
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>>123581536
after i die one of my message was rated "fine"
fuck
also sorry about that anon
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https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7980
Is this a good
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>>123581536
What's the level range for connection in BB?
I'm SL87.
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>>123581579
Vit like others said, but also I'd raise End.
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>>123582421
No big deal. I died with only one or two hits left. Wanna try again?
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>>123582247
see
>>123581259
I use a flat arc wheel too
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Guys, what is a build for moonlight sword plz ?
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>>123582441
>33 vit
no
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>>123582178
at least you saved her from going insane

>>123582289
the ones underneath old workshop and the ones on the way to Iosefka's from the forest

honestly, the best gems you will get early on are the ones that the guys with fire resins on their weapons drop in any depth of pthumeru.
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>>123582441
>skl/arc
Dear lord no, why even bother?

How to make a good build at level 100:
>50 vit
>no more than 20 end
>50 main damage stat
>enough secondary stats to use your weapon

A hybrid like the one you're trying to make is spreading its stats too thin. Also, 25 is the first scaling softcap.
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>>123582542
I'll join if it's just you two
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPRCKdJKMsI

Where's Bloodborne's funny videos?
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>>123582552
that skl is kind of pointlessly high

moonlight is B/C and wheel doesn't scale from skl at all
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How are Skillfags handling the DLC?

I feel like I can't do shit in the DLC area without having some gigantic shitstick to stagger enemies with.
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>>123582542
>>123582421
I fucking hate this boss
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How do chalice quick searches work? Am I able to be summoned in any chalice I can create? Or do I have to have one made?
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>>123582758
Load up on clawmark runes, pop a beast pellet, break the boss's head, then visceral them for 5-digit damage.
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>>123582758
i did alright on NG++ using blades of mercy and burial blade

burial blade for stuff that can be staggered and blades for bosses who have huge recovery on moves
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>>123582582

It's str/arc basically.
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>Beashunter Saif
oh fuck i'm enjoying the free dash attack it helps a fucking lot
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>>123582441
it would be had you kept skl/str at base and used an elemental cane instead

that way you could have pumped the shit out of arc and vit and had a good reason to use the kin transformation
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>>123582441
Why do you want that much skill and arcane?
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>>123582743
Moonlight scaled higher with skill than it did strength once strength was 35. Str was raising it by 3-4 points and skill 5-7
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>>123582758
The stagger shitstick goes in your offhand, anon
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>>123582658
What about Quality?
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>>123581830
>>123581869
>>123581972
Yeah I figured as much, how about now?
http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7983

What dlc weapons would go good with this?
any other suggestions?
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>>123582758

Learn to parry the old hunters, literally everything else staggers with a feather tap from anything
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>>123582348
GO AND CHOKE ON YOUR MARTYR'S DICK, CHOIR BOY
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>>123582758
Started out the DLC using the Rapier and Cane. Was like level 80.

Shit was difficult. Found Saif and started to breeze through it. Than agian I'm not a buildfag and this is my second playthrough so my stat spread was shit.
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>>123582810
It's the same as doing a search at a regular altar. Collect Ihyll, Loran, and Isz roots, then make a single C/F/R dungeon to gain access into any dungeon except roots with the Sinister rite. To get that, just pick up the Sinister Lower Pthumeru chalice and make a Sinister dungeon and you'll be able to access all sinister dungeons. Unless you don't want to be summoned into sinister dungeons, since their gems tend to be shitty.
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>ayy mode in dungeons
>I can wipe out spiders swarm with my L2 cosmo boom
>beast mode in dungeons
>I can wipe out everyone with crazy moveset and damage
Finally I can enjoy CD. GOTY
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>>123581674
pls respond
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level 53 BL at second lampstone in Yar'hagul, need help again. i'm sort of not sure where everything is that is important to grab so if you could help me again friend that'd be great.
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>>123583075
>enjoying CD
>enjoy Side Room Simulation 2015
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>>123582861
I wanted to do as much damage as I can with the Cane and use Arcane tools to the fullest.
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>>123578982
Looks like that was her trigger, thank you.
Now to recreate this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlVTh5aLQ3w
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>>123582881
Quality is a hybrid build, and if you're making it under BL120 you'll have to cut out stats from somewhere. Which is fine and what people do all the time, but it's something to be aware of.
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DLC OST out yet senpaitachi?
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>>123582889
30 blt isn't really worth it

all of the weapons that scale off of blt, do so exclusively when you transform them unless they're a projectile weapon

If you wanted to use simon's bow, I would do something like this
http://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/7984

otherwise you might as well ignore blt outside of just doing a little extra firearm damage and go for any skl weapon in the dlc like the twinblade or chruch pick
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made a new character that focuses on beast claws, whens the earliest i -should- do the DLC? I know I can do it after amelia, but I think i'd be too low
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>>123583152
oh yeah password is still obama
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>>123583256
Whenever you feel comfortable. I just tried it with a +6 weapon and failed miserably, but someone else mentioned yesterday that they found it easy.
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>>123583169
>stop enjoying things I dont enjoy!!!!
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How do I deal with Orphan's 2nd phase? He keeps 3-hit comboing me to death
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>>123583256

Get 25/25 strdex and some vit, upgrade your claws to +9 or +10 and get some droplet gems from mergo's loft brains
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>>123583256

First went there at lvl 30 with +3 weapons and couldnt do shit.

Went back at lvl 40 with +6 Pizzacutter (I ran by everything and looted it) and Ludwig's and I was killing stuff just fine.

Didn't try to actually fight the boss though.
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>>123583218

Yes, look on Youtube.
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In your opinion, what is the best PvE weapon? I'll end up PvPing sometime later on, but I just want a solid moveset to get me through the game and DLC.
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We still posting hunters?
Where are my kindred at?
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>>123583176
Arcane tools scale all the way to 99, you won't be getting the fullest. It honestly sounds like you'd be better off just making your Cane arcane or fire or bolt or whatever, just leaving skill at the base requirement, and taking arcane as high as you can.
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>>123583425
Filthy slugposter
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>>123583169
Chalice dungeons did nothing wrong.
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>>123583084
omw m8 gonna ring at fog door
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Thanks for the help m8
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>>123583413
axe for str
cane for skl
or saw cleaver/spear
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>>123583504
did someone say slug?
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>>123583413
The saw is incredibly good at killing bosses and has S scaling so it does good damage. The Ludwig Blade also has a real easy to use moveset.

For skill probably the Chikage.
>>123583504
It's actually cauliflower
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>>123583409
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>>123583508
the only thing bad about that image is the room with spider summoners and hemwick witches
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>>123583529
no prob hope you help other anons too m8
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>>123583508
>three witches summons black swag dudes
>5 fps
everytime
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>>123583528
Feel like trying now or waiting for one more?
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>>123583413
as boring as it is, ludwigs

Lugwig's L2 can hit tall bosses where any other weapon is frustrating to land hits with. This is on top of its insane damage and reach with the ability to fuck up anything.
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>>123583791
we can wait or go with just 2 if you want i need to go to the bathroom so begging when you see me move
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>beating laurence for the first time on NG+7
euphoric/10
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>>123583874
Alright. We'll go when you get up.
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>>123583508
chalices would be so fun if D5 FRC were open at the start of NG+ or something

everyone would do them because why not, and the activity level would be so high

literally the problem is that they put like 5 boring dungeons in the way for no reason
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>>123583508

It's missing two rooms

>This door for some reason has every single monster in the next three rooms pressing against it the other side, clogging the hallway and waiting to hit you as you open it
>This room has a strange bell hanging from the ceiling that you've never seen before. I wonder what happens if you hit it?
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Will there be another DLC?
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>>123583473
All the way to 99? Shit man, I had no idea.
So if I went for 50vit/50skl and just enough arcane for the Hunter Bone/Blacksky eye, that'd be fine?
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>>123584004
on that note the optimal speed route is a LOT simpler now. you can skip all the treasure rooms in all D4 and D5 chalices and physical builds can potentially skip Loran altogether
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>>123584004
I don't understand it either.

Whoever thought having to go through all of that shit for each individual character you make should be shot. What would solve everything is if chalices and chalice materials were shared between all character so you only have to unlock them all once and after that the only thing limiting you from D5 FRC is your own skill and character level.
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>>123583205
Is it even worth it?
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>>123583690
I once had a dungeon where one room had two bell maidens, another had two witches, and a third had one of those chests with two frenzy ghosts, and all three rooms were connected to one room. It was hell.
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>>123584201
quality is probably the strongest kind of build in the game

either go 50/25 or 25/50 str/skl
or 30/50 if you want to use the cannon
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>>123584334

What weapon does 25/50 str/skil build use
>>
So what is the best type of parasite?
Uncanny, default, or Lost?
I could get any I want from this chalice dungeon and I wanted to use it anyways.
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>>123584114
NOPE!

Bloddborne is a complete game now.
The only thing i can see for a sequel is maybe in paris or something after you have awakened from the nightmare based on the ending where gerhman kills you
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>>123584150
You'd probably do shit damage with the Blacksky Eye but yeah you'd be fine if you went that route. That's what I leave arcane at if I increase it at all on non-arcane characters. Gotta have those sweet anime quicksteps.
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sorry, someone remind me where i can farm twin blood shit the most

upper cathedrafk is thwe best i guess? but pre rom, what is the best
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>>123584386
Saw Spear, Burial Blade, and Ludwig's Holy Blade.

>>123584390
Uncanny for the radial/triangle/radial slots, so you can stuff it with brainsucker and Ebrietas gems.
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>>123584386
look at the wiki's weapon page

you can get optimal damage out of anything with D/C scaling at +10

you can also make function use of anything with E/A+ or -/A+ scaling.

saw spear is D/C and it's one of the best weapons in the entire game
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>>123584386
saw spear, saif, church pick, burial blade, reiterpallasch, LHB

beast claws and brisket dinner are barely STR-leaning and work just fine on 25/50
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>>123584484
>The only thing i can see for a sequel is maybe in paris or something
wtf u talking about
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>>123584506
I think Hypogean Gaol. Or just run through Hemwick Charnel Lane, there's twin bloodstones all over the shop there.
>>
What does "Shared Fixed Dungeon" mean?
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>>123583874
Well that was easy. First try, too. Thanks, anon.
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>>123584556
I mean bloodborne doesn't leave to much room for a sequel.
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>>123584484
Bloodborne leaves just enough in place to allow for a sequel. Killing the Moon Presence just makes you into a baby Moon Presence, and Annalise is literally double immortal so she's guaranteed to have her Child of Blood eventually. That's all the important stuff Mensis needs to hold its moon-beckoning ritual, even if some errant hunter killed both Mergo and MP years before.
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>>123584631
gonna go run over the bitches, i lvoe that place, thanks
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>>123584748
>Bloodborne 2
>you fucked up as a great one
>now you're the villian
>>
New
>>123584731
>>123584731
>>123584731
>>123584731
>>123584731
new

fucked up the OP but w/e
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>>123584836
aren't Hunters kind of the villians as it is?
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Guys, where did Eileen go? I killed the Cainhurst Hunter in the Cathedral, she gave me her tune and badge, is she kill?
Pls tell me she's not kill.
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>>123580424
Safest Orphan strategy I've found: stop trying to parry him and just dodge everything
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>>123584917
Try reading your previous post.
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>>123584917
You already asked this and she is kill. Accept this.
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Just beat Vicar Amelia so I can access the DLC, but I want to hold off until later when I'm more leveled/experienced. What items can I get without fighting anything?
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>>123585037
I don't know why it posted twice, I'm on mobile. I guess "submitting this page again" reposts. Sorry.
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>>123583393
Dodge towards him
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>every chalice summoning ever
>help the host to the lever
>run to the pre-boss room
>they fuck off into the bonus dungeon
>they/you get killed by something

The boss is right there, can't you just go to the other room after we're done
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>>123585059
Saif, Beast Cutter, Whirligig Saw, 2 or 3 costumes
There may be some things I'm forgetting.
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>>123585109
Ah, that's alright. I just wanted to deter any potential spammy shit from appearing in this thread and the next.
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>>123577089
lower resolution to 360 or 240. Set size limit to 3MB. Play along with bitrate from 200 - 300
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>>123584917
She woke up. So yeah, she's gone
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>>123584157
whats the optimal speed route? you have a guide?
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>>123584004
this
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>>123568457
Call myself Ahab because fuck yeah clothing style, being a mad hunter of wicked monsters with a vengance and ofcourse the in my opinion fitting quote: >"When that wicked king was slain, the dogs, did they not lick his blood?"

also fuck yeahfuneral doom metal
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Is transformed moonlight sword R1 doing arc damage??
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>>123586792
>rebuying the entire game
for what purpose?
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Those whaleshark monsters are designed poorly when it comes to combat. This is some DS2 level retardation.
>acquire skill
Not about that, just not fun or an enjoyable challenge.
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>wow, Rakuyo! I can't believe I found Maria's wea-

>20 Dex Req and stops at A scaling.

I see the dex cancer has not been slain entirely quite yet. Time to saw some Rakuyo fags with my Whirlgig.
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>people obsessively trying to recreate Maria in character creation
>kind of like Gherman

~m~e~t~a~
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I've yet to find a weapon better then my Chikage, the Rakuyo seems appealing but it doesn't seem better then the mercy blades. The Bloodletter looks col but it's a shame I poured points into skill.
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Anyone wanna help me fight Ludwig?
BL 50
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>>123575052
>fastest
>easiest
>arcane
Pick one. Get to Isz, stay there farming.
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>>123577529
I'm in the process of doing it right now
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>>123576623
Just beat the asylum demon on my first playthrough. Is everything supposed to be this easy? I beat the boss on my first try and never really felt like I was at risk of dying. He didn't do much damage and I could just keep dodging behind him and mashing R1.

When does the game force me to gitgud?
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Can I still summon Valtr for Laurence if I killed him in Forbidden Woods?
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>>123593276
Why would someone you killed be willing to help you
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>>123593631
Yeah good point. Wasn't really expecting to be able to, just wondering.
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>>123590370
Bloodletters transformed mode only scales with BT anyway. If you're running 50BT you'll maximize it's damage
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>>123585238
Boom hammer, amygdalan arm, Gatling gun...that's it as far as weapons go i think
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