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Previous Thread: >>123454735

PeltASSa edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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First for impregnating Gesti
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Thaumaturges are adorable and waifu material of the ages. Gesti is also best NPC
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xth for Cryo butt!
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5th for FUCK THIS GODDAMN RECIPE WHERE DOES IT DROP I AM LOSING MY MIND

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/recipes/10028/
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Anyone know how difficult these Awakening Item World Dungeons are? I'm looking to get my Roxona Gloves awoken.
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>>123502472
>http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/recipes/10028/
It most certainly doesn't drop at all.
How many dungeons run did you guys had to do to get anything rare?
I've been doing legwyn and arch daily for a week now and all I got is 50 talt and some cards.
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>>123500982
I'm not on laima, but it seems that there's only one or two people who do awakenings on gajiba who don't actually try and absolutely screw you out of money.
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>>123502363
>>123502409
what if

what if Thaumaturge had SwellButt
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>>123502472
>Durability 2/2
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>Afking while studying
>Hear someone casting buffs
>Look up
>Someone has set up a camp fire for me and buffed me
>Runs off

If you're here, you're cute
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>>123502409
Please stop
>>123502726
What an adorable thought
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At least i got a pair of bunny ears out of it.
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Updated tiers thanks to your feedback:

Slut tier: Sorcerer, Archer, Oracle, Peltasta, Highlander, Scout, Necromancer, Squire, Sapper.

Used goods tier: Rogue, Bokor, Barbarian, Rodelero, Fletcher, Linker, Quarrel Shooter.

Pure tier: Falconer, Swordsman, Dievdirbys, Sadhu, Wugushi, Monk, Priest, Krivis, Cleric, Psychokino.

Cutie tier: Druid, Chronomancer, Fencer, Hoplite, Pyromancer, Cryomancer, Hunter, Ranger, Paladin, Doppelsoeldner, Corsair, Schwarzer Reiter, Pardoner, Thaumaturge, Elementalist, Alchemist, Wizard, Cataphract.

A new study has found out that Cutie tier characters are 72% more likely to receive kisses!
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>>123502726
>tfw people asked if i could grow one specific part of the male anatomy.
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>>123502852
I figured it wouldn't be as fun as Necro, but all of /tosg/ asks for awakenings, so I figured I might help them out. Not really looking to get rich with it because beta, just explore different options.

>>123502917
Do treasure chests even spawn after crystal mines? I haven't seen a single one.
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>>123502991
>Necromancer in slut
Okay, can you not? Sure our outfit is incredibly leggy but it's nothing on the same tier as the others
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>>123502781
>This blade severely threatens both the life of its foe and the owner's finances. Of course, most swordsmen ignore the latter effect.
>and the owner's finances.
>Of course, most swordsmen ignore the latter effect.
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>>123502917
How the fuck?
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>>123502991
>changing the not a virgin tier to used goods
haven't you ever heard of a milf you raging fag
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>>123502785
nice blog
subscribed
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>>123503497
Thanks /dota2g/
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>>123502472
Is this the sword that makes Squire the best DPS class?
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>>123503680
>best dps
>have to constantly stop attacking to set up shop and repair

do you even know what dps is
real dps will just carry 20 of those swords and swap them
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>>123502472
Its not in this beta you fucking retard.
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>>123503136
This beta is full of incredibly stupid game breaking bugs which i really hope are fixed in the kr version, this includes infinite stats, level 8 xp cards, weight,sp up potions.
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>>123503807
don't forget templeshooter card
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>>123503807
are you saying you can dupe these things or are you talking about mission cycling to get exp cards?
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>>123503114

I don't know, it is at least "not a virgin/used goods" tier, but very close to slut.

>>123503490

Yeah, I probably should have left it as "not a virgin".
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>>123503780
Even stopping for repair they'd still gave more DPS than any archer desu senpai.
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>>123503807
>infinite stats
What precisely are you talking about? The drop bug where you can pick up other peoples drops (that they actually picked up) because the server basically lagged at that point?
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>>123503490
so used goods...?
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>>123502176
>Peltasts are named for their uniquely shaped shield
>Draw one with a regular kite shield instead
Would not take to dungeon
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>>123504058

i agree anon, that looks pretty slutty to me.
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>>123504298
>implying game lore is tied to real world history
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Reminder RO > Tree of Shit
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>>123504585
reminder your shit game is dead and buried
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>>123502682
I know, I'd invest in attributes, but there's nothing that interesting, so I really want to try the dream set even if I have to pay a lot for it s-since it's just a beta.
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>>123504217
yeah you get the stats via the item dropped by the boss.
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dead thread
dead game
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>>123502991

We need a list for hats.
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How are Peltastas allowed to be so lewd

Does the Tree of Savior world not have any morals
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>>123505137
>Does the Tree of Savior world not have any morals

Have you even been reading about the things you're doing for EXP cards?
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>>123504416
>Implying it isn't
ToS is literally Baltic Mythology: the MMO
Pic related, it's Laima's sister.
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Should I have quested before or after the demon prison grind? I'm level 162 and I've only done a few of the main quests in the demon prison, nothing else.
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>>123502176
>>123505137

Peltastas are misunderstood. They simply want to look cute on the battlefield and they are too innocent to notice that their panties are showing.

Please stop this propaganda sexualizing the Peltastas.
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>>123505235
And that means every class has to be historically accurate? There aren't even any shields in the game that look like real shields
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>>123502409
>>123505347
sexualize all the classes !
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Has anyone gotten or even seen a Brandish yet?
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>>123504731
What is the dream set? The nothing but element bonus gear one?
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>>123505453
It's even called pelta shield ingame
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>>123505027
Goat horns cutest hat
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why don't the girls in this game just wear spats?
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>>123505883
Funny way to spell cow headband
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>>123506182

Don't give them any ideas. It is common for companies to "westernize" their games by adding more clothes.
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>>123505027
Where do you get the Stylish Glasses? They're slightly better than the goggles and I want to see if I prefer them to the black rabbit ears I use.
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>>123506382
but spats only make my dick harder thou
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How much does Vubbe Fight Blood go for in Gabija? Market only got recipes and the actual glove themselves
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>>123505883
>>123506283

Those are not Desert Chupacabra Ears.
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Done dg130 for the first time and... what a fuckin boring shit dungeon with shitty exp.
Is there a single fucking class that doesn't suck on it?
Almost slept on keyboard, no joke.
If demon prison is anything like that, I now understand their pain. Congratulations on level 200.
What a terrible experience.
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>>123506569
130 dungeon sucks but it gives good exp
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>>123506382
>spats
>not even more sexual than plain panties
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>>123505758
Currently, yes. +49 INT would help my summons a lot, the rest are just amazing on their own.
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>>123506569
it gives nice exp
you had a lvl 145+ or 150 in party ?
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not sure how this game survived long enough to warrant generals

it's isometric WoW with shit combat
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>>123506508

To be honest, I have no idea where I got them. One day I simply realized that they were in my inventory.
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>>123506562
That's a funny way to spell Angel wings.
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>>123502852
gem roasting prices were stupid anyway. Started out at 10k, rose to 25k, I don't know what it is now because I have no spare monster gems to feed.

Awakening prices seem pretty bad because most people just want to get as much money from it as possible. You have people trying to (and possibly succeeding) sell awakened scale boots or hard veris boots for 400-500k.

Though I guess I've also asked if anybody can awaken stuff in this thread and never actually got a reply, so maybe that's an issue: almost nobody wants to awaken stuff on the cheap to anybody but their friends.

>>123506569
I tried it solo, I got destroyed because ridden summons are slow to pull out the good damage moves.

>>123506856
I have half of that set, I don't care for the rest right now.
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>>123506182
Customizable underwear it's going to be a cash shop item, that's why.
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Is there any word on Indonesian/SEA servers?
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>>123505883
Pink and black bunny ears are better
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>>123507052
can I wear it on my head?
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>>123507003
>>123506562
Too many hops in this
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>>123505347

>lewdest skirt in the game, basically the same as wearing nothing at all
>lewdest footwear in the game
>exposed midriff
>exposed arms

>implying Peltastas are anything but shameless sluts who purposely flaunt their bodies
>to bring all the Revelator boys to the yard
>And use them as human dildos to satisfy themselves after they've gotten all worked up and sweaty from a long grinding session

Anon, please.
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>>123506569
The 130 dungeon is good experience. The only issue with it is that it's long as fuck and takes longer than even later dungeons do to clean up every mob.
I prefer boss rushing the 130 dungeon over boss rushing the 90 and 175 dungeons. The only mobs that act like dicks are on the alternative path to Harpeia, and I can skip them by going from Mineloader straight to Harpeia. 175 is more fun to do a full run with, though
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So what is the veredict? ToS is the savior of MMORPG?
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>>123506182
Rodelero and Quarrel Shooter use spats.
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>>123507259
>exposed midriff

blind/10

the only thing that matters is the cute scarf.
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>>123507259
Their midriff isn't exposed, you dingus.
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>>123507259
>after they've gotten all worked up and sweaty from a LONG "grinding" session
What, they want more?
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>>123507226

You can never have too many hops.
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>>123507448
In its current state, not even close. And considering how they handled this beta, highly unlikely.
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>>123507609
Still wanna know what this hat is. I'm so sick of Gilt
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>>123507741
I wish the good spears used this weapon sprite.

I know Brandish does but it doesn't fucking exist
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Alch or Necro, if it helps i'm Saule. Oh Goddess's guide my wayward soul.
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>>123507741
The Party Hat? Can drop from every mission or party quest
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Who wants to drop some pink squares on the ground at the 90 dun?

Not in the mood to run this shit without heals just wanna roll over mobs
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>>123507041
>maybe that's an issue: almost nobody wants to awaken stuff on the cheap to anybody but their friends.
why would i do that ?
as often said. its boring as hell.

i rather do other stuff in game or other stuff outside game than spend time to do items for strangers for a low price or free

>be nice
i dont even know you nigga. and ppl ask me dozen times a day. cmon no. after 9001 awakes i rly cant see that place anymore
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>>123507741
>>123507870

I think he means the one on the gif.
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>>123507870
No, the one on the gif I posted
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>>123507861
Do what you think would be more fun, profits and money don't mean shit since everything will get wiped in a little under 2 weeks.
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Already friday. Don't forget to save your parties
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>>123507913
Make potions while you're in there, and have the person requesting do the awakening themselves.
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>>123507632
they don't give a shit about handling this icbt have you not realized yet

nearly all the bugs we have here are nonexistant in k version
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Well. It looks like I'll be stopping here. Game's dead at this point.

I don't want to do quests and use up unnecessary cards pre 110.
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>>123507741

That might be Steel Helmet: http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/628052/

I don't think it is in this beta either.
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cash shop will ruin this game. enjoy it while you can
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>>123508240
atleast try to solo it, casual
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>>123508240
use all cards except L7+8 u baka
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>>123508240

You have to do dungeons at reset, that is when most people do them. You will always find a party during reset.
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>>123508240
Most people have leveled past it. I was there not that long ago on Laima and there were a bunch of people there. Usually more at reset, though
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>>123507521

>Peltastas prefer a fancy outift because they care more about flaunting their battle actions to their allies than the dangers of being spotted by an enemy.

/LITERALLY/ /CANON/ sluts.

I don't know how you guys can even try arguing this one.
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I've been wondering why, since the latest patch I've been able to dodge a whole lot more while Finestra was up.
Turns out the Splash attribute that's supposed to double the evasion reduction no longer does that.

I mean I'm happy and all, but it's a bug.
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>>123508364
>>123508367

I've done that already. Most of the time it's just boss rush and you get into a party filled with 130+.
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>>123508240
>>123508367
Oh, I'll just add that I am aware you're on Laima, too (because I recognize that repair shop) but still, had you been there a bit ago you'd have been fine
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>>123508240
>>123508364

By the way, I skipped the 90 dungeon and didn't have any problems reaching 200. And this was before 2x exp.

Like others said, you don't have to save any cards but the level 7 and 8 ones.
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>>123508492
>>123508349
these niggas are right
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>>123508432

> that cute peltasta keeps flaunting her battle actions to you when you're trying to do the boss
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Gytis Settlement and Kvailas Forest keeps on disconneting me. Just these maps. Anybody else experienced this?
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>not having a scarf and goggles

I bet you dont even into autogyros
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>>123507563

I meant grinding mobs in the literal sense. They're lewd but not THAT lewd.

Sorceresses, on the other hand...
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>>123508240
Lamia? You could always duel that quarrel shooter that's always there to pass the time.
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>>123508770
yo thats cute
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>>123508770
Okay, you are really cute
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>>123508240
To be fair, you're level 106. I stopped doing that dungeon at 108, which is basically one more run for you (as a pyro/linker/pyro2). I just hit 130 today.
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open beta in december right
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sword>pelt>hoplite>rodelero

what'ya think
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>>123509568

If you're going to go into Rodelero just take the second level of Peltasta for the shield bashes with Rodelero's high guard.
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>>123509568

Hoplite2>Rodelero2 or Hoplite>Rodelero3, either is fine. You can also do Barb>Rodelero3 in case you don't want to use spears.
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>>123509568
you really want to hoplite 2

and you should really just sword pelt hoplite3 doppel

or sword pelt hoplite2 sword2 doppel

i prefer the second because level 10 pain barrier is future proof :^)

but im sure level 200 min/maxers will say the first has better dps for the current level cap and thus everything else is shit
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>>123509551
korean open beta. Our open beta will probably come in April or May since we're six~ months behind
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>>123509885
I want to be a spear wielding rodelero friend
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>>123509885

Sword2 is literal trash.
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>>123502785
Huh, I actually saw you.
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>>123509885
>lvl 10 pain barrier
>same as lvl 5but 5 seconds longer

ok
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>>123510019
it's fine if you're in a group, but for random parties you're right it's less than optimal

if you're in a group you can just go full dps without going pelt
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>>123495291
>diev advance quest
>can you clean the 2 goddess statues for me
>oil
>lotion

Brb rolling Diev
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>>123509885
whats so important about hop2
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>>123503807
How does one get infinite lvl8 cards?
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tfw new/current market bug is fun
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>>123502785
Cuter.
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>>123510340
spear lunge
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>>123510340
Spear Thrust and Finestra level 10
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>>123510362
Don't bother. None of these niggas share things. Or report them. They just wanna break the game when it goes live and feel superior for a while because they lack the dedication and the skill to be at the top.
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>>123510294
62% uptime

spend 38% of the time gathering mobs, and 62% of the time attacking them with out any interuptions at all

but youre right, sowrd 3 is better :^)

sword-pelt-hop2-sword2 is the most futureproof build
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>>123510297

So +5 extra physical attack and +10 additional damage from Gung Ho/Concentrate is going "full damage"? Those don't have any meaningful impact at all.

You are giving up way more from not taking Peltassta (aoe taunt, +25% hp, +18% evasion, +25% block, manual block, a real stun and knockback).
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>>123510615
what are you even doing that can be interrupted?
it doesn't even work against knockbacks 90% of the time
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>>123510686

Can confirm, pain barrier is pretty shitty.
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What do the legwyn family items even drop off of? I was going to buy some gloves, but the last pair on the markaet went in the one minute gap where I was transferring money between chars.
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>>123510380
Experienced it hard way selling stacked zircon
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>>123510478
>because they lack the dedication and the skill to be at the top.
lmao more like none of us are autistic enough to grind
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>>123510815
The Necroventer world boss in the Residence
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>>123510823
What exactly is happening this time around?
Is it like last time where items are just disappearing?
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>>123510297
>if you're in a group you can just go full dps without going pel

I would rather have only 1 dps+tank swordie, and fill the rest of the party with healer and aoe damage (mages, sappers, etc). Why would I waste a slot in the party to take a selfish swordie that pretty much brings nothing to the party?
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Changing channels fixes missing items on the market. C'mon IMC, what are you doing
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>>123510686
every attack can be interupted, you would know this if you mob huge trains of things before aoeing them down. I dont really know how it works, but some mobs just seem to interupt you with their normal attacks and you spend forever trying to use a skill.

sure you could jump to the side and use it, but that requires effort

even auto attacks can be interupted this way, you can get in a huge mob and your auto attacks suddenly take twice as long to go off, i used to think it was lag from all the mobs on screen or something, but nope, pain barrier fixes it, its just you being staggered.

it doesnt work well vs knockbacks for me either, its to prevent stagger and let you get your skills off smoothly. Its like it takes you out of the game world and you are running in your own pocket dimension where attacks just dont phase you.

Its an amazing skill. i have it up on cooldown now, things just work better.

>>123510651
concentrate 5 has an effective 100% uptime

though i agree pelt1 is far more important than taking sword2, but sword two really helps cut out the fact that hops end up being kind of auto attack centric compared to barbs, so having perma concentrate is a good deal
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Remember to get a kiss before the beta ends!
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>>123511003
even better. you can make them get eating by market

it was told at shout, so soon everyone knows:

>buy 1 item of any stacked item
>bad um tsss
>whole stack is gone from market

thanks BeeGoddess i did not have anything in market for days
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>>123511029
>nobody buys my items anyway

im undercutting everyone ;_;
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>>123511003
They are not disappearing randomly. You can make them disappear intentionally. Won't post it anymore, read bug reports.
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>>123511073
This has literally never happened to me, even in dungeons or high density areas, I can use stabbing and the full duration will go off while I'm being pummelled by mobs.
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Where can I find some level 2/3 treasure chests to use these keys on?
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>>123511029
That's so fucking retarded, but I thank you for letting us know. I was able to buy the family gloves now.
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>>123511309
yeah, because once stabbing is going off its working and it cant be interupted.

Try just auto attacking though. You will notice it. This also applies to skill execution, with it taking a few tries to get the skill to go off to start with, and if its timed just right your skill will go on cooldown with out actually going off, super annoying

pain barrier fixes this, it fixes everything
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>>123511029
awww cmon, that`s boring
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>>123482527
Sorry, I was sleeping. I'm using 5-star green gems in my crossbow and dagger.
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>>123511029
>arde and a few other things still missing
I just don't know
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>>123511215
>>123511261
What about equipment?
I just had an armor piece vanish.
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>>123511454
No, it's never happened, ever, I'm level 200 and not once has this been a problem.

enjoy your placebo skill though, even though you can use it with sword c1.
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>>123510362
Some bosses aren't immune to reincarnate or whatever that skill is like they should be. That would explain the keys, but not the cards I don't think.
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>>123511619
do you just jump attack everything?

get 20 mobs or so on you and stand there trying to auto attack them, your attacks will be slower
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>>123511073
>>123511454

I think you just have terrible ping or something. I have never experienced this either, and I went into Hoplite3.

Sword2 literally does nothing, and it is even less future-proof considering that past rank 6 levels concentrate isn't even needed and having 8 extra hits on it doesn't even matter. And the difference between pain barrier 5 and 10 is nothing, you still have downtime.
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>>123511458
Why. I just needed to get my money and kept switching channels out of frustration hoping I'd get them
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>>123511771
>not jump attacking

literally why

but no, even if I do that there is no delay or slower attacks.
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>>123511215
Oh wow. That's fucking hilarious.
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>>123511073
>every attack can be interupted, you would know this if you mob huge trains of things before aoeing them down. I dont really know how it works, but some mobs just seem to interupt you with their normal attacks and you spend forever trying to use a skill

>even auto attacks can be interupted this way
>suddenly take twice as long to go off

Are we playing the same game? I have never seen this even when pulling an entire screen at demon prison, dungeons, cerberus that spawns 100 mobs, or anything in the game.
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How do you folks make it 200?

Do I need a master's degree in NEETology in order to grind non-stop?
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>>123512316
Nice jaggies fàm
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im getting shitfucked in mage tower 3 jesus fucking christ i take a shit ton of damage
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>>123512316

Discipline. You are 6 hours grinding at 2nd demon prison away from level 166, after that it is just a few hours away from 200.

Just put on some nice music, or something on the background to keep you "in the zone" while grinding. Before you even notice, you will be out of the prison.

>>123512548

Are you 5~10 levels behind the mob level? That is probably why.
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>>123512316
You're at 160, that's 90% there. Grind 2nd Demon Prison for another 3-4h and you'll be 166, then pop your cards to propel you up to 175, then quest for another 5h and you'll be 200.

Leveling is fast as fuck so far, especially with double exp going on.
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Is Cataphract any good?

I just want to go fast.
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Plate and cloth masteries are actually pretty decent aren't they? The fact that they occur before defense reductions means that even at 15% it's still fairly meaningful reduction in damage. Evasion hits diminishing returns hard around 70%-80% evasion, and the hp bonus of plate is just crazy.
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Are there no quests on mage tower f5?
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>>123512945

Yeah, most people (meele classes) I know switched from using leather to using plate at past level 170 because it is just better overall.
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do i level up gunho's attribute or concentrate's attribute first

why does it have to be so jewy with both my money and my time
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>>123513071
there are like two sidequests, but you need to do all the sealed stone quests to activate one of them
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>>123513162

Concentrate first.
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Anyone here have a Melinas Staff?

I'm paying well for it. Laima.
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>>123513254
I think I did do all the sealed stone ones, I did like 4 or 5.
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>>123512529
My toaster can't handle korean coding well.
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>>123513162
I kind of wish the attributes were in bigger chunks, like they were higher bonuses but took longer and were more expensive (but the same end reward). Like instead of 30 minutes for 1%, be like 3 hours for 5% or something.
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>>123512672

If you just want to go fast, sure.
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>>123512672
Cataphract with Windrunners will probably make you the fastest in the beta
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>>123512945
I'm a swordsman and I'm tempted to switch to cloth from plate.

The only thing that threatens me with a full dex build is undodgeable magic damage.
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Seems the current kCBT3 server has been changed to a different server. The client.xml file has a new server URL.

Ausrine is probably going to be the OBT server, whilst this one might continue along side it for future testing, maybe.
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The current exp rates are a bit too fast for R1 but from R4 onwards, they feel just fine.
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>>123513503
Is TEST SERVER the best goddess?
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Are there any alternatives to tosbase, or tosdatabase?

>>123513508
I agree from my experience. The previous rates for the first 1-65 levels were fitting, however after that they became a little to 'tight' in exp card requirment and map level.
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>Use warp scroll
>No option to warp to previous

Thanks
Also, does anyone have an Arde Dagger for sale?
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>>123513724
The return option only works on field maps, not dungeon maps.
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>>123513574
TEST SERVER a best.

Less buggy than the other goddesses and better rates. :^)
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>>123511215
someone go post in on reddit. i dont have a acc there
>tell everyone about it
>blame reddit
>call it 'the-reddit-bug'
>ppl will be so mad at redditfags
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Did someone say there was a level 160 dungeon before? Does it give good exp?
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>>123513797
How fast can you get to R6?
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How do you add color to your party name?
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Oh speaking of which, I'm gonna set up timer doc for Ausrine.
Question is, do I branch it off into separate doc, and include other tabs for stuff like kOBT player list?
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>>123513885
no. its a shit mission
no good exp
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Why are skeletons so useless?
They only have about 3.5k HP each so they basically die in one hit to any boss mob and a couple of hits from any elite.
Their HP doesn't scale with anything in-game that I've found. SPR, INT, con, skill level and attributes don't affect their HP at all.
So if they're fairly bad now at 200 they're probably going to be completely useless at high levels
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Guys, I'm broken. What's the best place to get money at lv 130?
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>>123513896
Hard to accurately say, it's much less than a week though for sure.

There's no need to grind until around 170 if you use cards constantly, based on experience. It's probably much easier using iCBT2 logic and grinding in certain areas and withholding cards.

For example, there's no need to grind in Demon Prison till 165+ and save cards, quests can carry you there. Also, you most likely have R5 by the end of Mage Tower if you did the quests in the right order.
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>>123513703
Yeah, the game doesn't really open up until R4 anyway so having R3 being a huge chore is a pain.
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>>123514065
>slash against plate
You tell me.
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Spent hours and like 10m silver getting a sissel bracelet... That's how i found out the passive effect doesn't do fucking anything.
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>>123514065
Not even a real jew.
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At the moment, no accessory has working awakening options, so don't bother with it.
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>>123511884
>literally why
because jump attacking is slower than standing and attacking, you can normal auto attack about twice for everyone one jump attack
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Alright, after trying out an arde dagger, I'm confused as to why people want it. it doesn't seem to effect my normal attack once it's equipped, so couldn't you just get a weapon with ~160 atk to surpass the arde dagger?
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>>123514676
:)
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>>123514676
All elemental damage gets applied to damage you do, including skills that normally cannot be augmented by skills and stats. Considering it's an offhand weapon, it's incredibly good to add 153 attack power to your mainhand attacks.
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>>123514784
You have summoned me, state your business.
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>>123514514
I'm not going alchemist in a fucking beta. Please
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>>123514807
but I'm hitting things with my mainhand attacks and it still shows the same amount of damage without it equipped as with.
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>>123514642
i should note, that when mindlessly swinging in the air outside a dungeon on my hop, another hop came and stood next to me and started doing it too. I swang around 25-30% faster than they did (for every ~4 attacks they did, i managed to do about 5)

We couldnt figure out why this was, my latency was 0.15, maybe my ping was lower than them or something

auto attacks are a mystery to me. But i certainly swing slower when being attacked by large groups of enemies, and pain barrier removes that
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I want to be surrounded, held, and raped by Kupoles until I have literally no semen left to give.
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How does one "solve" the legwyn residence?
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>>123514065
Why are wizards so useless?
They only have about 3.5k HP each so they basically die in one hit to any boss mob and a couple of hits from any elite.
Their defence doesn't scale with anything in-game that I've found. SPR, INT, con, skill level and attributes don't affect their defence at all.
So if they're fairly bad now at 200 they're probably going to be completely useless at high levels
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>Character animations for when you log out has been added.

I don't see any new animations still. I've also tried logging out in the lodge, changing character instead of logging out, nothing.
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>Medicing made of Spring Light Grass quest
>NOTHING WAS FOUND
>NOTHING WAS FOUND
>NOTHING WAS FOUND*infinite
just kill me already
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>>123515106
Why are shitposters so useless?
They only have about 3.5k HP each so they basically die in one hit to any boss mob and a couple of hits from any elite.
Their defence doesn't scale with anything in-game that I've found. SPR, INT, con, skill level and attributes don't affect their defence at all.
So if they're fairly bad now at 200 they're probably going to be completely useless at high levels
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>>123514846
Just had an urge to post a Karin, and we can't have a thread on /a/ for another 3 days.
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>>123514065
Necro has been nothing but disappointement to be honest.

Skeleton AI is horrible, stop following you and/or working as a whole whenever they please Skeletons becomes hostile for evey single boss (You can't kill them yourself, need shoggoth). That raises one simple question, why are skeletons so buggy while shoggoth actually works just fine, sure it likes to kill things off screen for centuries but he will never stop fighting. Skeltons dies so fast, they do okish damage but i'm sure both their offensive abilities and survivability will be shit later on. And of course today when i decided to try it some more i discovered that both them and shoggoth loved to kill my ice walls, wasting damage.
Shoggoth is ok but damage is mediocre, i suppose decay is fine. It might die somewhat fast later on.
Corpse Tower damage is mediocre, again it will probably fall off later on.
Dirty Poll is ok because it applies decay
Gathering skills are useless
Flesh hoop is okish but because it doesn't aoe it's pretty bad to kill even a small group unless they are linked.
Flesh cannon is good, only skill i actually somewhat like with shoggoth.
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>>123515120
Maybe other peeps can see it?
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>>123515120

ppl will see your character leaving, not you
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>>123512667
>>123512609
Why do people continuously propagate this meme? It's not "over" as soon as you're out of prison, and you most definitely can't get to 200 qith just questing after that either.

Graduating prison just means you're 175, maybe 177. The EXP reset isn't until 186, and there's a ton of grinding to be made until that point. And even after the reset, there are no more quests after 187, so all you have are the last 30 cards(takes you to 193), and you still have to do the 190 dungeon 3 or 4 days to get 200.
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>>123515120
A Hoplite > Fencer?
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>>123515408
>>123515386

That'd make more sense. I wondered if it was something like a goodbye wave before you log out.

>>123515493
I picked up Fencer when it was just released in kCBT to try it out, the initial plan was Hoplite C2 > Corsair C2.

Though, Attaque Coquile and Spear Lunge stacking is nice but awkward to use.


Also, patch notes for Nov 20th (kCBT3) have been translated.

http://pastebin.com/EFJb2h6u

Nothing much of interest.
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>>123514642

You can jump-attack at the same speed as normal standing.
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Barbarian is the most boring thing I've ever played. Sure you have an easier time soloing but parties are what matters most. All I have is damage and nothing else, I'd much rather be the healer that supports the team or the pelt/linker who brings utility and clear speed. Or a mage with their visually appealing nukes. Heck, even archers seem fun now, anything but a mindless facerolling class.

I wish I didn't fall for the barblander meme, now I'm forced to stick with it because it's my only chance at getting to max level.
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Where do zircons drop from?

tosbase, states red panto spearmen, however such monster isn't listed in any location
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>>123515280
Please don't crush my dreams. I'm waiting to get my awakened set so I can roll Necro instead of Alch when the server is about to close.
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>>123511215

Then why are single items vanishing too?
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>>123515491
(all before event)
i was 177 after using cards. and i only had to grind like 50% when i was lvl 185.
the 175 dung gave that. the 175 and 190 dungs +quests get you to 200 kinda easy.
its not "a lot of grind" but also not "only 5 hours quests"
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>>123515734
>he didn't go pelt -> barb2

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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What's better for a Cryo? Int dump or a mix of Int/Spr?
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>people pick classes based on meta and not how cute the outfit is
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What level can I start farming dina bee farm instead of demon prison as archer
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>>123515934
anytime
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I thought you were all calling her bird because she had a big nose
How close am I to demon cocks?

>>123515280
Maybe I'll go alch instead of Necro then. I do really like skeletons though.
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>>123515491

Because I did this and still have 30 level 9 exp cards at level 200?
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>>123516119
You can quest, use level 6 cards, and do the 130 dungeon to 150. With double exp, the 130 dungeon levels you up extremely quickly.

At 150 it's demon cocks. Big, fat, slimy, smelly thick demon cocks all over you and inside you for days.
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>>123515654
then your normal standing attack is slow like that hop i met.

https://www.metronomeonline.com/

I jump attack at about 80 bpm, and stand attack at about 100
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>>123515664

>Being shameless, obscene sluts
>Not saving your kissu virginity for someone special

頭を振ってる desu 家族
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>>123516129

I hit level 200 the same day I got out of prison. No grinding, no anything.
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>>123516257
So still a little bit away then, that's good. Hopefully that dungeon gets me to sorc quickly.
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>>123516347

I attack at 100 and jump attack at 100. I think you need to practice jump attack more.
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>>123515883
Mostly INT, for me I had put maybe 15 points into SPR at most
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>>123516360
Would just uchi '家' not be the more similar word?
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>the moment you realise you play with teenagers
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>Finestra adds 10% of your INT to damage
That's

That's .3 damage
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>>123516728
its impossible to jump attack faster than 80 because jumping by itself is only as fast at 80. im already jump attacking at the same speed that i jump normally
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What should I make as my 7th character?
Already tried monk, priest, paladin, psychokino, cryomancer, ranger, hoplite, peltasta, barbarian and highlander.
Keep on the road for kamehameha is also an option, but I don't think will be worth. Also, is probably too late for Reiter, that I also think wouldn't be worth but sounds cool, or keep my barbarian until kirito/fencer. Those are the best pre-existent options, prob.
Pro/Brotips?
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Here is kOBT thing.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1X50XoEFxK4q10GmO9gU7izzUlw_C72Qr1fnRC6ou2wE/edit
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How badass is Snake bow?
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>>123517004
the level 200 character
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>>123517004
>not killing your waifu every time you get a new one so the old one doesnt have to live with the same and humiliation
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>>123515008
>until I have literally no semen left to give

Technically that's exactly one ejaculation.
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>>123517265
very. Skull or dratt bow has more attack tho.
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>>123516972
>the moment you realize you play with girls
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>>123517482
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>>123517482
>boyxgirl
faggot
>boyxboy
double faggot
>girlxgirl
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>>123518354
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>>123518354
>>123518423
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>>123518354
>image

FUCK.
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>>123518354
>>123518530
;_;
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Where is this Demon Prison 2?
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>>123518575
There's a portal at Shaton Reservoir that leads to the place
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>>123517482

Is she okay? She looks like has a fever and is about to vomit.
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>>123515008
do you or anyone else have more pics of her in that exact position but from different angles?
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never got one of this little ugly companions

are they worth it?

these niggas be expensive yo
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>>123519134
She's just gay
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>>123519276
>100k
>expensive

Maybe if you're under lvl 120. They do help keep the aggro off of you, and one shot everything on lower levels so new characters will have an easier time leveling
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>>123519276
Absolutely not.
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>>123519276
They can be shared between chars so you can quick level it on a high level and pass it off to a lowbie, beyond that, theyre fairly pointless unless you play a class that uses it.
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>>123519331
I wish I was gay
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>>123519276

They're useless and do basically no damage on your main but the nice thing about them is if they're leveled up to a decent level and you want to make an alt, they will 3 bosses and make early leveling a lot faster
>>
>>123519460
No reason to wish yourself a different sexuality. If you're straight, you're straight. If you're gay, you're gay. Why would you wish a different sexuality upon yourself?
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>>123519276
They'll be cheap by the time you get to level 70 or 80, and they tanked for me a few times where bosses would just look at them despite me having maxed provoke
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Does anyone know where this guy is? I can't find him anywhere on the map.
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>>123519574
its fashionable to be gay in the west now
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fucking infinite loading screen

dont even have an armband and it keeps happening
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>>123519574
He's implying that if he was gay he'd be a cute anime girl
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>>123519650

Use the item on your inventory to summon him.
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>>123519574
Sexuality is a lie. Like things you like
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>>123519724
But Victorique was a cute anime girl and she was heterosexual.
>>
>>123519650

I swear to god EVERY SINGLE THREAD there's a fucking mongoloid that can't fucking read and asks this same shit
>>
Is the awakening dungeon tough? Can I attempt it at level 120
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>>123519650
abandon it
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>>123520050
depends on the item, but usually nope
>>
Market fee is 10%?
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>>123519858
Sorry I did some of the first quests for this guy about a week and a half ago around level 130. I only came back to it after a break of playing and then demon prison grinding. Completely forgot that you could summon him with the book.
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>girls kissing boys
Is that actually a thing in this game?
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>>123520531
Yes
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>>123520720
No, but you'll see people thank each other sometimes.
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Do quests disappear when you are x levels above or x levels below the level requirement?

I've been grinding so much in prison that I've neglected all of my quests and almost forgot to clear them.
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Well this is kind of cool, I don't have to dismount now to use potions.

>>123516980
You get it for the skill cooldown, not for the extra that only works when you're with a c3 linker.
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Where do you get the flower branch hair costume?
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Was sapper/rogue stealth nerfed?
I can't do the double broom trap anymore
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>>123521094
>riding demon dick
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>>123521236
It's the purest thing in the game.
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>>123521194
Nope
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Is there even any point in getting Stabbing' Evasion? Finestra kills Evasion enough as it is
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Would anybody happen to need keys? I'm willing to sell my spares for in game money (As I presently need it)

Have 8 keys left. Quite useful for dual accounts and trading money/items between characters
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>>123521476
The first one doesn't do damage anymore
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>>123521048
Mouth to mouth thanking? What kind of company is IMC??
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>>123521579
Just get it, it's not like it's expensive.
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>>123521579
yes
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>>123521701
It never did for me. Have to wait until broom is up again for both to work at the same time.
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>>123521732
>>123521752
Didn't notice it adds mdef too. Thanks
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Anyone on Gab wanna run the 50 dungeon?
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I think I just made Kubas spawn or some shit. How does this fucking map even work. Was probably the non FOE one.

Got shitfucked.
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I HAVE 67 lvl 8 cards how many did I miss?
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>>123522059
>only 67
you're fucked
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>>123521671
Are you the guy who was selling keys for 500k/arde dagger?
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Would any Oracles be willing to help me farm a recipe? The mobs are rare and I want an excuse to see Oracle skills too.

I'll pay for your time somehow!
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>>123522176
I am. However I no longer need the dagger.
Would you happen to have replied yesterday saying you would buy one but you 'think its a scam' ?
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Can you use Cloaking when mounted?

How about Camouflage?

I'm going to eventually be Schwarze Reiter in preparation for Musketeer but Scout seems to be the only class that's "futureproof."
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hehehe
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>>123521943

I do!

I'm a useless Quarrel Shooter though, hope you don't mind. At least my cute costume can provide a good morale boost.
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>>123522389
Yes that was me.
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>>123522343
Maybe later. Server? Name?
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Just got this, anyone have an idea on how much it's worth?

>>123522443
So you lost that recipe?
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Kubas is up guys.
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>>123522664
Nah it was still there
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>>123522405
>in preparation for Musketeer
We're not getting it in this beta
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>>123522589
Channel 13
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>keep finding pistol recipes
>archer only
>will never get to use pistols in my offhand as a fencer
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>>123522821
I wish subweapons are free for all. It would be neat wielding a spear or rapier with a pistol as your sidearm
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>>123522664
It's kinda really shit but it's a ridiculously rare drop from a dungeon you can't farm, people will buy it just for the adventure journal and I'm a special snowflake factor. I've seen the recipe for the gun from that place sell for 12m, that one is actually good to use though
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>>123522807
Klapedia?
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>level 100
>try to solo level 50 dungeon
>die
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>>123523338
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what is the best 170 rod
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>>123506508
Mage Tower 4F
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>>123521094
Are you enjoying Sorc?
Was my first choice when I changed server "for the extra week", which I dropped on gate route 'cause was not a linker. Did they fixed AI problem?
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>>123523338
Managed to solo every dungeon up to 130 without getting damaged at all, feels good being a Sorc. 175 here I go.

>>123523556
Servant, not implemented yet, I guess.
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Im about to craft my bettleback, can i get just a slight clue about how to get a peltasta master pic in the memo, i already know how to color text
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Is there a list of equipment awakenings anywhere?
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How do I get off the center island in Prision District 5?
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I'm stuck with Velniup until the end of the beta, aren't I? Goddamnit.
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>>123523746
{img Dlg_port_PELTASTA_MASTER 220 260}{/}
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>>123523556
Get an Awakened Elder Rod or Ignition, they are roughly equal. Elder is way cheaper, easier to get, and has better secondary stats; Ignition has more potential to use on upgrading and better MAtk.
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>>123523753
Gee I dunno, maybe check the OP post
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>>123523885
heyy lmao
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>>123523830
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>>123522807
Thanks for the keys, here's hoping they're legit lel.
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>>123523338

gitgud, son. i did this boss alone at 90
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>>123523882
If I have a +5 unawakened Elder Rod, the best path for me would probably be to awaken it and upgrade some more even if I'm 170+
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>>123523338

Let me guess, you're an Archer.
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>>123523338
Nigga i soloed the 50 dungeon at level 90 as a Ranger. Get good
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>>123524252
>>123524278
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How many lvl 8 cards are there?
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>>123522443
double claymore?
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>>123523338
All the dungeons are beyond easy to solo if you aren't playing a worthless class in which case you should just reroll.
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>>123524520
Nah just single. I should try that though.
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>>123524520
claymore hits twice in melee range
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REEEEEEEEEEEE
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yes, now marry me
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>0.02% drop rate
welp
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>ecks dee XD

I assume anyone using this is underaged? No actual adults would use this, would they?
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What happens if I pop my cards at level 160?
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>>123523869
Thanks man, im having problems doing the curly brackets but i will eventually get it right
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>>123524783
You level up
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>>123524783
The game ends
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>>123523681
Am I enjoying it? Kind of, but it's certainly not without its problems:
AI is a crapshoot.
You can't really order it to attack something until it's dead (I hear 'attack ground' simply has them move to attack that area, and then return after doing so).
Riding doesn't show the skill cooldown times for attacks (and the attacks all use a generic icon,
Skills are cancelled without cancelling the cooldown if you move after starting the move while riding.
There is basically no way to fine tune the aiming while riding,it uses a kind of lock on that will prioritise traps over a boss (mouse mode does nothing, and is how I found out about >>123521094).
Your summon takes up the boss HP bar slot while you ride it, so you can't actually see the HP of the boss you're attacking.

There's probably more, but I've yet to find it.

>>123523713
How did you solo the 130 dungeon? I'm having issues with it and for the moment don't really feel like partying for it (I feel like I'd be more of a liability, especially since I find I can kill enemies faster with link+fireball/ground in normal legwyn rather than temple shooter).
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>>123524783
You'll have a reason to reroll.
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>>123524767
I'm not gay and even I think he's cute

>>123524771
For some reason I still use it when I chat with my one buddy. We both do, and I know for a fact neither of us do when we talk to anyone else. It's every fucking sentence between the two of us though.
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>>123502176

>You will never have sex with a Peltasta whiile she bullies you for being a pathetic virgin who has no idea how to please a girl
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Okay guys, i got meme'd. Seems toy hammer doesn't work since last maintenance, or doesn't work with dagger and wizards. Whatever, you can't combo it with ice wall.
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>>123525086
of all things they fix, they fix THAT?
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>>123524621
>>123524625
some question about sapper/rogue

can you conceal broom trap and does it do damage?

and can you copy the concealed broom trap?
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>>123525086

maybe they patched it. last patch fucked energy shield too and that sadhu thing

or you're doing it wrong...
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Does the attribute make unbind worth it?
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>>123525190
I've never used conceal, it's pretty pointless. Broom doesn't take damage anyway.
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>>123525210
Even if it did, I'd say unbind is never worth it. It's only worth it when an enemy or someone else links you.
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>>123525210
No. It's barely better than an auto attack, costs mana, and why would you want to unbind things.
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>>123525196
On youtube random cryo attacks the wall with meme dagger which cause explosion. In my case it doesn't cause explosion no matter how much hits i do. I can't test if explosion applies too melee hammer attacks since i'm a wizard.
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>>123525045
Why do you insist on making me sad?
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>>123525045
>she just taunts you and keeps on blocking you
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>>123525210
Only situation Unbind is useful in is if you for some reason need to put Phys Link up for raid wide hits on bosses but then want to cancel it right after. The damage attribute is completely worthless, you will never ever want to cancel your Joint Penalty, especially not if the payoff is only about what an auto attack would do.


>>123525345
>It's only worth it when an enemy or someone else links you.
It can only cancel the links you yourself made, can't use it to get rid off of the Joint Penalty mobs put on your group in the lv190 dungeon for example.
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>>123502281
yes please
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When stuff like this happens, I am glad I went Hunter.

They really should review those anti-fun monsters. Specialy the ones that seem to have a few extra zeroes in their HP.
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What is the most beautiful thing you've seen in your life
What about music is that beautiful
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>>123525732

Those are cancer, just kill them for the quests and get out of there.
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>>123524621
Update: Can't capture a claymore. Game sucks.
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>>123525304
well, it will be fun if people are getting hit by invisible broom stick.
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>>123525967
>you capture an enemy sappers claymore
>you didnt capture the detonator and she blows the claymore up inside of you
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>>123526041
My experience with conceal is that they make the traps do damage once and then immediately expire.
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How many level 8 cards should I save?
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I did Altar Way on a Swordsman first char, and the Shamans really annoyed me. Now that I'm trying to do the area with a Wizard, I'm fucking booty bothered. Those fuckers get to slap you with 700 unavoidable damage, and my Wiz only has about 5k hp. I'm chugging Hp pots constantly, and I'm still always losing HP.
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>>123526196
I don't know! All of them!
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>>123526196
Save all your cards for the REAL grind to class 15 after hitting 200.
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>>1235254

wich server are you? i would like to see it happening if you're in laima.

anyway, that shards of you are acutally hitting something? it's not your attack that will proc the explsoion, but something taking damage from it.

ie: attacking the air in town will not proc explosions.
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>>123526254
How many there are? I have 80 already, and 143 lvl 7 cards
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>>123526196
All of it
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Where did you guys get your bandana and flag? I'm already lvl 160 but I don't have them yet
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>>123525086
How did you test it?
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So wizards have no gems for their offhand?
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OK, I'm bringing back the old discussion.

Swordie c2>hop c3>doppel>dragoon
Or
Swordie>pelt>hop c3>doppel>dragoon?

I don't want to tank, I want to deal as many damage as possible!
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>>123526963
ok
then you need peltasta for easier aoe'ing

case closed
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>>123524870
I'm a Cryo/Linker/Eletrash/Sorc.
Summon > Hold > Joint > Hangman's > Smash Ice Bolt + Ice Pike > Repeat.
Took me more than 1 hour for the first time, but the exp was huge.
Shitty AI aside, Temple Shooter knows his shit.
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>>123526963
Do you imbecile even know Dragoon skills?
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>>123526850
I pondered putting a block gem in my arde dagger for an extra 30 block. A quick look at the gem sheet shows that absolutely no wizard tree classes have a skill gem for their offhand, though it's not like htey work in any of the off slots as it is anyway.
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>>123527165
Forgot to mention Electrocute + Joint after freezing monsters for faster killing.
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Is this game going to have hardcore raids and shit
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Why doesn't IMC have rank refund coupons for the beta?
>You wanted to try out this class?
>You're fucked forever better reroll
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>>123527347
With the shitty optimization, I wish them luck
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>>123527165
Ah, I went summon > riding > buff cat 2 since buff cat 1 only ever gave me an aoe buff. Guess hold will be my 5th point.
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>>123527373
So that people will get to test the progression from a level 1 to level 200 on different kinds of builds and see which needs work from feedbacks?
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>>123527373
Because they want you to test the leveling curve multiple times
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The wizard tree sees so much same-y builds because they're trying to juggle support and damage. The problem isn't that Linker is too good, as good as it is, it's that nothing in rank 3 is nearly as good as it, because the options are all shit. The second circles of pyro/cryo need a buff, kyno needs a buff, or linker needs to be moved to maybe rank 4. Linker moving would cause some problems as well, because it's obviously filling the support slot for that rank, so they'd need to move thaum or chrono down.

Personally I think they should switch linker and chrono, chrono really isn't that great and it shouldn't be as high as it is. That or just do a lot of little changes to pyro/cryo 2, and kyno 1. I don't know them well enough to make suggestions though.

Thoughts? I want to talk about video games instead of kissing.
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I'm considering a Peltasta C2->Rodelero C2. Should I?
All I have done by now was support (priest/pala) and muh deeps. Can I survive (solo) without memedagger.
Also, block works nice or fall off compared to dodge?
I want to know if it works or not. Well, I can change after Rodelero C1 to Corsair C2 or maybe Fencer in the end of rodelero, but would like to preserve Peltasta C2 (C3 if not Rodelero) for something different I guess.
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>>123527559
I went cataphract and my feedback is that I need a very long hug.
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Sucking on Mushroom Dick sure is more relaxing than Demon Dick, I don't even have to move from my spawn because there's so many mushrooms. These things don't even aggro so I don't have to safety zone either. How come more people don't come here?

In other news, I learned that Vashita Siddhi acts as a mini Swashbuckiling which is extremely useful for me not wanting to move closer. Also playing Sadhu can cause seizures because of graphic tearing.
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>>123524003
Please post here if it works, so I can freely sell the remaining. For double the price
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>>123527443
Just get lv3 cat for the attribute then reset your build. After that, lv2 is more than enough. Attack Ground is trash. You should know the rest.
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>>123527869
Because muh efficiency

And nobody has swashbuckling to make it like twice as efficient cause they're dumb and take sword c2.

And if there's other people there it sucks
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>>123527603
second circle Pyro is plenty strong senpai, there's nothing that needs to be changed except maybe making Fire Pillar not have a 2 minute cooldown. Cryomancer C2 needs to be fixed because Subzero Shield doesnt even work. They should buff Iceblast and make it a C2 skill.

Chronomancer is also has skills that just dont work, I think it needs a buff though because you lose so much by not going Sorcerer or Elementalist C2.
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>>123526963

Please stop bringing sword2 up, it is fucking trash, get over this meme already.
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>>123526341
when is Star Wars: Mace Windu's Second Wind coming out
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>>123527985
Yeah, that was the first thing I did actually. reset to get cat3, reset a gain and put it back at 2.

This dungeon is honestly making me wish I'd rolled linker2 for rank5, because I'd be able to absolutely destroy these enemies with 2 fireballs+7 links. I could probably do it with one fireball vs 5 enemies, but I don't feel llike it's worth the risk.
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>>123527654

Why do you want Peltasta C2/C3?
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>>123528097
compared to pelt1 it is compared to hop3 though its the smarter move
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>>123527869
its sad to see that Sadhue had more range than Archer itself.
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>>123528198
Never tried Pyro, but things are pretty smooth for me as a Cryo C1. I kinda regret rolling for Ele1, but I can't complain about Electrocute.

Good luck.
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>>123528039
Like I said I mostly only know what I hear here about which wizard branches are strong. I did raise a linker till about class level 7 though and it isn't broken, it's just better than the other options.
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>>123528336
and I'm not even at level 15 OoB yet
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>>123528321
This is fucking bullshit, and I am the swordie c2 fag.
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>Wendigo Searchers
WHAT IS THIS FRESH NEW HELL
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What happens if a doppelsoeldner kills an enemy with double pay earn, the enemy had swell body used on it? Do they get 4x whatever it would drop?
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>>123528204
Idk, something different to play with.
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wait so quarrel shooter has their little stone picking thing. each stone sells for 2 coins, no SP used up to pick up stones. is there a reason i couldnt just make script which presses H key over and over and leave it on overnight? is it not worth it endgame?

like not even thinking about doing this just wondering. at max rank its 15 stones every 5 seconds. thats 30 moneys ever 5 seconds. doesn't seem that bad to me.
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>>123528097
Sure, but when you get to max level you gimped yourself because you took pelt just for swashbuckling
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>>123528728
360 silver per hour is literally nothing.
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>>123528728
I mean with a small army of bots you could definitely pull a profit. It would just take quite a few bots.
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>>123527603

just nerf linker and buff the others a little bit. linker IS a problem that needs to be solved, you can't powercreep every class. move hangman knot to c2, balance the shared dmg (100%? what the fuck IMC) and ofc, buff c3.
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>>123522806

That's correct. I'm not rolling an archer this beta, fuck that.

I'm asking for the next one.
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>>123528379
>progressing smoothly
>disconnected from server
I'll try again after it resets. Can I ask how you dealt with the bosses though? I've never fought cerberus to this point outside of him getting gang raped by 200's in mausoleum.
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>>123528816
60 minutes in an hour, 60 seconds in each of those minutes
3600 / 5 = 720 and then if you are max rank thats times 15 so 10800 not 360 per hour.

maybe im doing something wrong here
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>>123529103
oh, I misread, sorry

I guess if you set up a lot of bots then it'd be okay
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>>123528728
>>123528884
Ya actually, thinking about it you could get maybe 3 or 4 parties of bots each to a low level instanced quest area. Something where you beat the boss or whatever but aren't kicked out of the instanced area until you talk to someone. Then just have them do that all night. 20x360x8 assuming you sleep 8 hours, add on more if you aren't literally waking up then immediately sitting down to vidya ;_; and you have nearly 60k a night. Not much, but adds up.
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>don't like other lodges
>decide to sacrifice my cozy cabin for more characters after all
>discover buying new lodges is just the formality to unlock new character slots, you can go back to the cabin

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
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How many 7's and 8's am I suppose to have at 165?
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>>123529227
use this

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2VuMyfpCIiua3JMdWdUUWFjams/view

click open on the top so you can edit the cells
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>>123528516
literally all you get for going hop3 is 50 more crit rate and about 100 more damage on stabbing that other c1 attack skill i cant remember the name of

meanwhile going swordie2 gives you 100% concentration uptime. since concentration adds over +100 damage, going from 50 to 100% uptime is effective +50 damage to every attack you do, meaning you take 50 points out of str, put it into dex, and wew, you have totally countered the benefit of finestra 15

what remains is 100 extra damage on a couple skills from hoplite, vs what swordie2 gets

1: 100% bleed chance from a thrust attribute (hop bleed chance is only a % chance on a skill with a cooldown, no good for partying with rogues that want bleed)
2: 20% stun chance on normal attacks (for 1337 pvp)
3: Larger bash aoe
4: 24 second pain barrier

the swordie 2 build is
1/3/1/10/10/5/0

now you may say "but pain barrier 1 is enough". "i dont need stun chances", "i dont like rogues and dont want to make them guarenteed awesome" "i dont want to be useful and knock shit around in dungeons for optimal aoe positioning" and "gung ho 1 is too short duration i dont want to recast it even though compulsively mash the button to recast it anyway when recasting concentration (i know you do this fgt)"

but the fact remains. you gain a lot of different kinds of neat stuff, and all you lose effectively, if you shift your stat distribution to make up for it, is 100 less damag per hit on a couple skills which will become secondary skills once you get doppel anyway (and remember with 100% conc uptime its likley you will be 100 damage short on some of those skills sometimes anyway if you are using them all on cooldown)

is hop3 going to suck? No. you could make a character thats just pelt1 and hop2 and no levels in swordie or any other class and it would be strong enough to get you to c6 with out problem.

But think for the future. Thing of the utility and possibilities!
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>>123529003
100% shared damage is the point though. Maybe change how it interacts with AoEs though. From what I know if you gather 5 monsters and hit them all with an AoE that hits 5 targets, they are each taking 5x damage from that AoE. Moving hangman half kills wizards. Give it a longer cooldown maybe so you can't practically spam it. As someone who didn't want to pick Linker, but had to anyway, I didn't pick it because it was good I picked it because everything else was bad.
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>>123529213
>buy biggest lodge on zemyna before moving to gajiba back when I started to play with a friend
>default lodge appearance on gajiba became the expensive one
>I cannot, under any circumstances, use the comfy lodge when I login to gajiba
It's truly a curse.
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>>123529403
if it works 'properly' now, stabbing and pierce would basically use the entire concentration duration on their own.
>>
Do you think we'll get a pokemon class? Like one that captures/tames monsters? Druid is close but I want to literally go out and capture 100 of a monster so I can send waves of them after a boss.
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>>123529165
60k a night?
You need to consider that high level zones drop recipes worth 50k, and you might spend two minutes killing monsters to find one or two.
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>>123529549
but they only consume one stack. did that change?
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WHat the fuck is going on in the C1 Rogue advancement?
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What you guys are going to do on release?
I'm thinking about Musketeer, Plague Doctor (depending how he works) and Shinobi.
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I feel like the value of Daino is severely over estimated. The parties I've been with usually only hit 4 or 5 buffs, and one of those is Daino.
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>>123529673
theres a shepherd class
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>>123529403
But dude, I'm not giving up on swordie c2, I'll be picking it instead of pelt at rank 2. Thanks for the post though, that made me more secure about the swordie c2 thing.
>>
Which class do you want to bang the hardest? I'm finding it hard to resist fantasizing about those cute Sapper girls.
>>
>See Dievdirby carving in front of me
>It's a teleport statue
>He just pops right out of there
>Statue disappears

I know it's practically nothing, but it made me pretty jealous. Are they really that shit?
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>>123521190
plz respond ;_;
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Wugushi is good or is just another meme like swordie 2?
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>>123529917
Yes
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>>123528321
>>123528742
>>123529849

Sword2 does nothing, it is irrelevant the higher level you are, while Peltasta remains relevant forever.

>>123529403

1.- Meh
2.- Restrain fucking SUCKS for PvP, it shouldn't even be called a stun.
3.- >caring about bash aoe
4.- >5 seconds longer pain barrier, still has cooldown

You don't get 100% uptime on concentration because of muh multi-hit skills. By the way, at level 200 concentrate does nothing, mobs die in 2 hits with or without concentrate, that extra +100 damage does NOTHING.

But hey, let's list the benefits of Peltasta.

1.- AoE taunt (invaluable for parties, being a tank and actually being USEFUL).
2.- +25% HP when taunting. Great, you can tank even more.
3.- +18% evasion (for PvP builds and high DEX builds this is even more useful).
4.- Umbo Blow. Wow, look at that, a real CC with stun.
5.- +25% block rate when using a shield, wow look at dem passive blocks.
6.- Manual block. You can tank world bosses without taking any damage? Wow, I really don't want that.

And you know what? Block also negates 95% of the physical attacks in PvP, and you can passively block some magic too.

Sword 2 is a meme.
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>>123529749
You don't like le shield reflect spamming man of one billion hp?
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>>123529793
I like the idea of Dragoon if he indeed super jumps around.

But the siren call of being a cute musketeer doing cute things is too much.
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>>123530097
What the fuck was IMC thinking? No... seriously WHAT THE FUCK?
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>>123529403

What level are you? 70? Doesn't seem like you have too much experience on the game if you really care about concentrate that much.
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why do people care about duels? and why the fuck am i seeing people potting in them?
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Anyone else hoping they add some different variations to class costumes? I'm getting bored of people running around in the same things. I really like pretty much every costume but there's only so many.
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>>123529819
Daino doesn't count, same as Restoration.
Both are AoE buffs.
It's good when there is a wiz for Reflect+Enchant and Zalciai from Krivis. Also, Revive or Monstrance depending where you are partying.
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>>123530232
maybe we'll get shitty color palettes like in private RO servers
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>>123530203
Pvp in this is actually pretty fun.
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>>123529403
>i dont want to be useful and knock shit around in dungeons for optimal aoe positioning

are you serious? as a mage, knocking back actually makes dungeons worse, i hate when barbs do that, meanwhile the taunt gathers all the mobs nice and easy for fast clearing.
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>>123529743
It was apparently changed for blessing in the recent maint. I see no reason why it would be made different for concentrate given it stacks in the exact same manner as blessing.
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>>123529026
Probably a lot of changes by then
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>>123530054
But we won't be using a shield except for the swash moment. I don't want to waste a rank because of one single skill.
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>>123529849
you need pelt1 as a swordie, not taking pelt1 at c2 is the stupidest thing you can do

>>123530054
im arguing you gain more from going sword2 than hop3

hop3 is literally nothing but a little bit of stat changing to reach the ideal crit point, more dex and less str and a little more damage on stabbing and concentrate would completly negate the bonus of.

concentrate negates what you lose by not going hop3, and the other sword2 benifits remain.
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Now that reset has hit anyone wanna run the 50 dun on Gabija?
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>>123530124
>Tree of Shinon
We already have Asunafencer, Kiritosair, Shinonteer.
Where is the dragon tamer for Silicanoonecares?
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>>123530054
They'll rework restrain, it sucks too much ass atm
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>>123529227
There's a maximum of 149 level 7 cards. You should also have about 130-ish level 8's if you want to jump all the way from 165.
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>All these 100 dungeons

I missed so much experience. I thought it went 90->120 god dammit
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>>123529029
Dungeon bosses I just order my shooter to aggro the boss first with hold, then I just nuke it with RNGHail and Ice Wall. If I aggro the boss I just run around casting short time spells close to my shooter, sorry it's kinda hard to explain.

Most of the world bosses are a joke, I just do the same shit from above but manages to get closer and cast prominence for more RNG damage.
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>>123530354
i knock back into position the things highlanders who dont realize they need to remove the knockback effect from cartar throw all over the fucking place

bashs knockback is a very short range very controllable knockback perfect for positioning. The other knockbacks you see are highlanders fucking everything up

>>123530357
conc actually just increases your patack, its not a damage add like blessing, the little 'concentrate+xxx' numbers arent actually the damage add, when its active your normal attack damage number is higher

If its changed though thats kind of bad, concentrate may not even be worth using anymore. maxing that atribute out for an extra 2k damage wont be worth it.
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>>123530547
The thing at the mercenary? It's just hats
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>>123530392
Whats the purpose of the choice in r2 if I HAVE to get pelt?
You know, fuck you all, I'm getting swordie instead of pelt and there's nothing you guys can do.
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>>123530392

Then take Cata for using 2h spears and deal even more damage than taking sword2 would do.

We don't even know if dragoon will have the 2h spears attribute, the ones on the trailer all had cata on their builds.

Or hey, if you want actual CC for PvP, then take Rodelero, Barb or even Corsair C1, they all give more skills to use, more CC and more damage than Sword2. You can even take fucking Squire for Arrest.

There is zero reason to take Sword2 at all.
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>>123529819
I would disagree. My priest is c3, as a result I don't have daino. My own buffs basically consume all 5 slots in some form, and I can't turn them off from specific people receiving them (same as I can't turn of receiving buffs from others). There was a wizard casting reflect shield constantly erasing one of my buffs, a pyro who kept killing my buffs with a 5 second fire related buff, and o ther members who were using their own buffs.

After half of the first run I didn't bother casting more than blessing+sac because it wasn't worth my time to have them overwritten 5 seconds after.
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>>123529865
I would consider rolling an archer.
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>>123530332
Until some asshole cleric starts dumping heals on the people dueling
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>>123530770
What's not fun about doing that?
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>>123530332
Doesn't seem fun for anyone that's not a Psychokino or whatever else is just broken in PvP
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>>123529865
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>>123530437
i..i do. im a 57 hunter
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>>123530646
Oh is that why they all say mission? Well that's good. What kind of hats?

>>123530824
I had fun during the few duels I've been in.
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>>123529865
Squire, she is the perfect mix, a bit lewd but not too lewd, she takes care of your shit and makes food, it's like a dream come true, all she needs is shimapan.
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>>123529403
50 points in str adds more than 100 damage to literally erverything (stat scaling!) since you will have 100% crit rate as hoplite

you are fucking retarded
bleed? really? rogues fucking suck enough as it is, I'm not changing my build to try and make them suck less.
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How much am I missing if I take Cataphract1 instead of Hop3 before hitting Doppel? Their costume just looks so sweet, also mounts
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>>123530632

You have that wrong. Gung Ho is the one that increases Physical Attack. Concentrate is the one that just adds damage at the end.

The reason why your normal attacks deal more damage is because of the added damage from Concentrate (the Concentrate +xxx text is just telling you how much damage is being added to your attack).
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>>123530354
That's not what he means. As an example

>Krivis casts Zaibas on a couple grouped mobs
>One monster was too far away
>Shove it into the circle
>zap zap zap
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>>123530961
the point is its not a damage after the fact, its added to your stats. I know gung ho is the one that raises your character sheet patack, but concentrate just does it too while active, invisibly. Its not a separate hit.
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>>123530852
Okay gimme a little bit I'm doing something atm, prob like 20 mins.
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>>123531059
I just tested and I am infact incorrect. Concentrate wasn't changed, but to be dead honest I haven't actually tested blessing because I can't hit 170 times in 45 seconds and i'm not paying to test.
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>>123531059
concentrate is a seperate hit like blessing
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>>123529403
>>123531059

not that guy, but you have it wrong.

concentrate = +xxx added to your final damage, it doesn't scale with critical, multipliers or anything, it is the same as blessing.

50 str is not equal to 50 damage.
50 str = 80 str at rank 6
80 str = 120 damage on critical

plus attack modifiers, etc. str actually does add more damage than concentrate the higher level you are.
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>>123530889
Some nice ribbons Bring a party if you want to do it
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I wish they would reduce base damage but increase attribute scaling. As it stands it's so hard not to pick classes with new, higher damaging attack skills because it would make grinding so much more tolerable. Lower rank skills attack skills are so outclassed that the support/utility classes will be the only relevant ones at higher level, but they make it so much more painful to get to that level.
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>>123530482
if you add up 149 lvl 7 cards and 130 lvl 8 cards, that's 49 million EXP. It only takes 36 million between 165 to 175, isn't that a bit overkill then?
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>>123530824

hey
gitgud
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I just can't understand how the #1 on our server has 8k more points than the #2.


I've made just about every item and I know the ones I am missing wont push me up much.

What is giving the most points? Do the alchemist mobs really give that much? Or am I missing something else.
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>>123531309
What's your rank?
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>>123531234
That sounds pretty cute, but I like being a sleepy sheepy. I wish I named it EDGE EDGE EDGE
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>event spawns a squad of wendigo searchers on me
>unavoidable spammed shots that hit for 1000 damage each
Is this a fucking meme
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>>123531383
I'm between 7 - 10 right now. Last I checked I was 9. But the point difference between us is like 100 - 300 at most. It jumps to the thousands at rank 5+.

Rank 1 is just shy of 8k above rank 2
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>>123530852
Give me your name in the meantime so I know who to look for.
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>>123531537
Oh, I'm #8.

Yeah, I don't really know either.

One possible source of points is that #1 could be upgrading a ton of items to +15, because you only get 25% of the points for having a piece of equipment if you just leave it at +0. But that would be just insanely expensive.
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>>123531628
flet
im standing there in channel 4
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>>123531494
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What do you listen to while playing, /tosg/?
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>>123531740
Alright be there in a bit.
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>>123531867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1GEGwljDb4 right now
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>>123531309
At least I'm above the BR.
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>>123531707
Do the points jump up when you get to +6 and above? Since 1 - 5 give jack shit for points.
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>>123531867
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i45pYq-58po
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>>123531896
This is how Zemnya looks
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>>123531907
I think so.

I'm on an alt right now and too lazy to log into my main, but looking at my adventure journal, I have:

+7 Golden Falchion -> 46%
+9 Thresh Sword -> 65%
+11 Spatha -> 100%

So I was wrong earlier, I think you probably only need to +10 an item to get full points. I haven't checked if the same upgrade level gives the same % for different items, though.

I also think you need to actually upgrade the item yourself and not just get it from the market or a trade, because my own Golden Falchion only went up to +7 but I'm using a +10 one I bought off the market.
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2x red gems or 2x yellow gems for my meme set armor/pants?
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>>123532168
i hope they just get rid of this system
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>>123532352
what class senpai
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If a skill has 3 overheat and a cooldown of 12 seconds each tick of overheat should have a cooldown of 4 seconds. If you use all 3 it goes on the full 12 second cooldown. If you use another before one cools down it doesn't cooldown until the new one has.

The current system is nearly pointless.
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>>123532352
Given that you have to actually ask the question, roasted red. If you aren't actually a sorc, may as well go with blue.
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>Archer3 memers are willing to oblique shot through maps like Demon Prison just for one skill.
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>Caring about rank
>In a beta that will be wiped in two weeks
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Finally farmed 56 pendimire mask, finding these fuckers who drop them are a pain.
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>>123532595

cryo 3 kino 1
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>>123531396
smack those revelation tablets into the collection box anon
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>>123532834
>not being a HARDCORE GAMER

quit eating like a noob
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>>123532834
>Btw I'm low rank as fuck
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>>123532861
Red
Phys def is shit
A larger HP pool can save you a lot of times.
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>>123531878
a..are you cruely standing me up? was it always a ruse? Im going to run real fast and start a new attribute training
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>>123532893
I tried but it wouldn't work.

>>123531867
A weird amount of Dio. I only listen to it when I play. I have no idea why.
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>>123532893
gotta match the correct one to the correct slot anon
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>>123533035
Maybe if you didn't act like a faggot, you wouldn't get stood up.
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>>123532143
>Riunia ded
what is with SSGT name anw, I saw so many of them. Are they BRs?
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>>123533148
meant for
>>123533046
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>>123533232
They are BRs.

Nemsey there likes to crash channels.
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>>123533232
Yes.
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>there are people in here that grinded in ToS instead of having a happy Thanksgiving with their family
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>>123532778
I think people pick archer c3 because multishot 16hits +2over with cheap SP and low cooldown.
And also +25% crit rate.
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>>123533319
>being an amerifat
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>>123532993


meh, i'm going full reds. 4 level 5 reds. thx
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>>123533458
lvl 5 or go home
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>meet some chinese bro in the beta
>both of us are 200
>we just exchange popo emotes and jumps when we see eachother around in the world
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>>123533394
Goodluck grinding at mob heavy maps then.
Hey at least you have good single target
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>>123533394
>getting multishot C3 when you could just get Spiral Arrow
:^)
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>>123533232

Facebook /GuildSsgt/?fref=nf


>Are they BRs?
Yep
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>>123533562
>>123533524
I'm have a ranger2, dudes.
Was just saying what people claim.
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>>123533562
that requires 4 circles total instead of 3
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>went Highlander on rank 2
>everyone starts shitting on anyone who didn't choose Peltasta

>go Cataphract
>multiple threads dedicated to how shit they are
I'm glad it's a beta.
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>>123533319
I'm Canadian anon.
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>>123533705
And what are you going to get 1 rank of that will help? Scout is the most popular choice and that offers jackshit to your mobbing capability.
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Where do you get the watcher set?

http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/sets/11/

I saw someone wearing one and its untradeable so it must be from a quest.
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>>123533786
Did you also go archer3
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>>123530392
Hop3 lets you throw your spear. Don't tell me that doesn't sound cool.
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>>123533786

I don't play swordie, but I really like having tanks with taunt in my party, instead of those memelanders that just push back everything away.

I think it is better for the community if we can start educating swordies on taking taunt early, that way we can have better parties for when the game goes live.
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>>123533965
It is. Got it from the Watcher's tower
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>>123533786
Highlander R2 is legit because of 2 words: Cartar Stroke.

2H sword + attributes is just icing on the cake.
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Which class Master has the worst fucking location
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>>123530606
I just got absolutely rekt by hangman not actually hanging my enemies, or hanging but tthem immediately breaking out of it, or them getting hung, but but not actually taking damage from the 2x fireballs that were linked.

The right path is so much more bullshit than the left path because of the panto archers, and the fact the camera angle is biased against that direction. I guess I can't do it myself with this kind of delay.
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>mfw ameriburgers failing to beat brs, pinoys, and even eurotards that play with 200+ ping at the rankings

shame on u guys, holy shit
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>>123534136
Where is that care to point it out? How the did I miss this.
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>>123533232
>>123533302
>>123533313
>>123533624
How can BR better than you guys?
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>>123534114
there is an attribute for highlanders that stops the knock back
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>>123534283
Its somewhere in Tenet. Its like you people do not enter every orifices you can find and try to 100% maps
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>>123533965
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/bulb-hidden-quest-and-useful-information-might-have-spoil-bulb/65899
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Best use of Burrow.
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>>123534384
I did 100% all those maps thats why I'm confused
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>>123534282
I've just been trying different builds and characters. Not just ending up with a shit build and sticking with it. It's not hard to hit 200 when others can carry you all the way there.
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Is this a madman?
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>>123534618
Should have taken Hop2 for the spear jump. They look cool doing it
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/w9kxku11fz/

Good? I screwed up and listened to someone when they told me to go Archer 2 and missed out on going sapper2 rogue2. I'd like to see if Falconer is any good, SR looks boring
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>>123534618
Looks like some kind of wannabe tryhard pvper. Cataphract for the skewer and swordsman for the stun spam. Don't know why the Hoplite is there.
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>>123534618
I saw one that was swordsman c3 > barb > squire c2 that's some torture
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>>123534618
He has pierce damage for days.
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>>123534859
its actually easy to get that just go sword 2>barb>sword3>squire2
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>>123534762
>Falconer

Nah. Archer 2 is fine though, dunno why you think you missed out.

Source: I'm Archer 2, Sapper 2, Rogue 2.
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>>123534618
>headgear
I'm gonna farm or buy one on live, no matter what.
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what is best leather set
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>>123535081
What, you're gonna keep making alts till you get one?
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>>123534972
yea but going barb and not getting Seism just makes me twitch
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>>123535113
Caprisun
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>>123535113
Cafrisun

>>123535130
Exacly
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>>123534282
I have a job unlike those BRs and pinoys.

EU have nothing better to do with their lives
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>>123535049
because then I went Ranger instead of Sapper

I wanna go back ;-;
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Anybody actually tried going Archer 2>Hunter3>falconer?
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>>123535191
>EU have nothing better to do with their lives
I wish i could just pack and go around the world.
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>>123535191
>not being rich enough to not work
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>>123535209
Tried Hunter1, can't see the pet's damage scaling well by rank 6. Also nerfed pets and shitty AI getting stuck on elevations
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>>123535209
there is a person blogging about it just look at the thread they are like lvl 150+ by now probably so not falcon yet
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Is Coursing supposed to work on bosses? Because my pet just doesn't respond when I try.
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>>123535546
It just debuffs the boss but no binding
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>>123535201
Just go Ranger 2 > Rogue 2 then. Sapper is good, but Ranger abilities are just as reliable at killing mobs with equal gear. Sapper just excels in huge pack farming areas, but sucks complete ass against fliers. With Ranger you at least have a bunch of tools at your disposal to deal with range and ground monsters, albeit less impressive than Broom.

Just don't go Fletcher and corner yourself into having to use a 2-handed bow. Using the Karacha dagger + crossbow set and memestabbing things for 50k is highly enjoyable.
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I just saw a Swordsman3>highlander1
Poor dude
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>>123535694
Catar stroke is all you need in boss fights
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What the hell does c3 Paladin's "Conviction" attack do?
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>>123534261
Sorry, I really don't know how to help you from here. You're right though, the left path is pretty comfy, but the right path takes some timing bullshit and knowing what you're doing.

About the hangman, just make sure you're facing the monsters, since you're a Pyro wouldn't dancing around Flame Ground easily kill everything? I really don't know shit about Pyro.

You can do it somehow!
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>>123527654
Peltasta2-Rodelero is fine as long as you're ok with never overkilling mobs ever (and generally your skills doing nothing but throw monsters around the screen). Just swashbuckle and tape down z.
You block almost everything when you hold C and only sometimes when you don't. High guard is like holding C, except you can run around and apply interrupts, I guess?
Also, wearing plate armor and having the block def attribute actually brings you to the point where boss attacks do almost no damage even if they manage to penetrate your block.
Arde is better than any shield most of the time, though, and even if for some strange reason you want to use shield skills you can just swap.
You can go rodelero2 just to see what the "stat point mix" effect on shield bash does.
Really, anything is playable right now thanks to the on-hit bullshit.
>>123528204
Swashbuckling 10 is an alright thing to have.
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>>123535870
flame ground is great vs regular enemies, but not so much against super HP tier dungeon enemies that also happen to have ranged attacks that can basically one or two hit KO me. That's why I'm using 2x fireball link for high damage in a short timeframe, killing them before they can get it off.
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I forgot to roast this gem before adding it. I just wanted to share that with you. I'm sure one day the pain will stop, we'll get through this together.
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Musketeer better not be fucking horrible. I want to form a firing squad where only cute people are allowed in.
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>>123535589
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/of6te8mrue/

something like this?
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Every map I go there's this icon in my minimap? What is it?
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>>123536052
Big Kepa farming bots
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>>123536035
It will probably be awful. The entire archer tree just makes me so sad
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When should I use my lvl7 and 8 cards?
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>>123536038
I found Vendetta pretty worthless, I'd put those points into more Feint levels and 1 point in Burrow for utility.
Oh and take Steady Aim, it's good. I'm pretty sure Time Bomb Arrow and Crit Shot are not that great, so I'd put those points there instead. And despite all the memeing you hear about Oblique Shot, it's actually a good ability, while Full Draw is complete trash. I still use Oblique at 200 against fliers, but that's mostly because I'm Sapper.

Other than that it looks fine.
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>>123536052
You probably don't want to know Anon it's pretty spooky
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>>123535997
Welp, there goes that anyway. I got a disconnection mid run via my isp, the game decided to not just flat out disconnect me, but instead lag me so hard I instantly died when it managed to re-establish a link.

Because I wrote something during that duration, it also flat out locked me out of the icoin revive/restart from the entrance menu, leaving me no option but to just log out.

My gear broke like 20 deaths prior to that, and I was just using temple shooter on hold to kill stuff while I linked it
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just pooped all my cards and gained like 10 levels

fuck it
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>>123536297
never
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>>123536421
I bet you weren't even 165.
You know, like has been said at least 500 times so far in the various t hreads.
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reminder that ToS is shit
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>>123532778
I made both and they're both shit, ranger aoe is a literal meme, bounce shot is garbage and barrage isn't true aoe
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>>123536421
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>find gold flashing lucky mob.
>crash as soon as I pop it.
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>>123536520
What's wrong with the terms of service?
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Is it super amazingly laggy for anybody else right now? I can't even talk to the shop npc.
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>>123536536
Archer2 into Sapper, anon
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>go scout ahead in other rooms for my demon grind group
>find flashing mobs and kill them before my party catches up

boys gotta eat
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>>123536664
I also made a sapper
It's really the only decent option
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Do I ditch cataphract entirely for Doppel or do I JUST my way to Cata 3?
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>>123536776
go for Doppel, it's closed beta anyway, try out every class you can
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>>123536052
An NPC is looking down from above.
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>>123536776
>>123536834
yea plus doppels are cute
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how do i build a sadhu
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>>123537507
You have to be happyhu!
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>>123537507
Cleric --> Krivis --> Cleric --> Sadhu -->Sadhu --> Druid

Max Int

get Fade and Safety Zone level 10 for maximum Out of Body. You can also opt for Krivis C2 over Cleric C2 if you want more burst potential over OoB sustain.
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>>123536350
Oh well, the only solution might be giving up the huge exp and just find a party, you're not going to take that much time at dg130 once you hit 136 anyway.
Keep trying though, soloing is pretty fun and challenging to be honest.
I'm going to sleep now, I hope you'll be able to do it.

And for the awakening service anon, I'll try to wake as soon as possible and keep reading the threads.
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>>123536776

You can't use cyclone while mounted so...might as well just go for the full meme and get cata3.
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>>123537607
I'm also going to sleep, the lag was too brutal for me to care at this point when I can't even talk to npcs to sell junk. I get the feeling that I should actually invest some points into con or something, but eh. I have ~360 int or something now with scale boots I think.
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Are there any alchs on that could awaken this for me? You know, if you're not too busy or anything. please
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>>123537584
ha!
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>>123537915
I haven't been paying attention, but did you have a circle of linker? A dandel gem will do you wonders.

It only takes like 5-7 minutes to awaken that item, I was surprised. I would've suggested giving the crafter the money to buy the recipe+materials, but that's a personal choice based on whether or not you think you can trust them. You also lose the ability to name it/comment it yourself, which can end with you having some rather unique item names/descriptions in exchange for an extra potential point.
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>>123537915
>sorc
>roasting blue gems on a staff

Why would you not take the SP reduce? Doesn't a smaller SP pool mean less drained by summon % drain? You're going to just be sitting around while it fights drinking potions.
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>>123538168
Yep
I assume a dandel gem increases joint penalty by one level? That is pretty nice but I've been spending so much silver lately, I doubt I can afford it. Maybe once the demon prison grind starts.
I don't understand, do I need to have the alchemist craft the item for me to awaken it? I assumed they opened a shop like Pardoner/Squires and you put it in there. I found the recipe in a low level area so I just hung onto it.

>>123538363
I really haven't been thinking very far ahead because it'll all be wiped soon anyway. You have a point though. Too late now
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when does claymore trap start doing damage
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What's a nice method of getting things to level up my gems?
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>>123538972
It doesn't.
I just use it to lure more mobs since both stockades seem to cap out their leashing at 4 mobs.
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So is it known if channeled shit getting canceled by any damage is yet another bug or something intended? Because if that isn't a bug then I'm dropping the Cleric line altogether.
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>>123539128
You know that skill that makes you invulnerable to all forms of damage?
Maybe it synergizes with something.
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>>123539128
no thats normal
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What determines what class icon goes in your character label when you join a party? Is it just "last chosen class"?
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>>123502991
Why is Pardoner still in cutie and not in slut please explain?
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>>123539128
This.
I must know if it was intended or not.
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>>123539063
so the only real good sapper skills are the spikes and helicopter dick?

can i just save my points for when im rogue
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>>123539264
If my memory serves me well its decided by which costume are you wearing
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>>123536013

derp. if you are a psychokino or sorcerer, you must keep the gems unroasted. 2k max sp is more than enough. hell, past some extra levels and u wish u had less.
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>Try to round off stat to nice even number
>Goes up by one extra
>Should be happy
>Die inside
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>>123539412
claymore can overkill flying mobs desu senpai, may as well put points in it, it's not that bad
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how much would a cafrisun set benefit a pyrolinker
is it shit for me or should i aim for something else at 75
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>>123539412
It doesn't work like that.
Plus detonate trap can be very good situationally.
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>>123539128
IMC made a post about it, they're not sure if its a bug or not
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>>123539425
I've just quickly tested it out, and swapping costumes did not change my monk icon to a priest icon
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>>123539519

No wizard build should involve any significant amount of auto-attacking.
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>>123539753
Damn i was so sure about it
Also do you have more circles in priest than in monk right?
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>>123539915
I'm almost certain it's just which class you took last.
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>>123539264

last choosen.

i wish i wish i could keep my cryomancer badge, since it's cooler than any other r6 class.
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>>123539963
Damn thats really shitty i hope they change it at somepoint
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Buying any monster gems
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>>123539519
It'd just be proccing your enchant fire
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>>123539852
>>123540214
well damn what set should i aim for then
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>>123539915
I do.
I've seen a few higher levelled players wearing their starter outfits, however I can't remember the last time I saw a "wizard" icon for example
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>>123535889
>anything is playable right now thanks to the on-hit bullshit.
>on-hit bullshit
?
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>>123539173
Maybe you might have a point if Bokor didn't exist and if said skill blocked knockback/freeze/similar.
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>>123540293
>cafrisun
>enchant fire
>sacrament
>meme dagger

grats now you can autoattack every mob to death in seconds
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>>123536331
what should my dex and str ratio be? I'm at 32 str and 65 dex right now.
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>>123529819
I duo with a cleric friend and we cap the 5 buffs every time, if it wasn't for Daino we would be burning sp for nothing.

I'm not even sure how your parties only hit 4 buffs
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Is the server lagging or is it just on my side?
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>>123539528
Could you link that post please?
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>>123540357
Except you can't AA everything 160+.
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>>123540595
I've been dc'd twice today.
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>>123540663
Yes you can, you literally can.
Why do people think you can't? mobs at the current end maps are easy as fuck
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>>123540710
You can with -70 eva from boots / -100 def from set and zero stat bonus.
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>>123540831
I really don't know what you're getting at here
all endgame mobs do like under 500 dmg, losing defensive stats isn't gonna do anything, and armor don't provide any useful offensive ability in the first place.
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>>123540641
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/bugged-or-what-channeled-spells/121344
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>>123540591
The cap is 7 (or 8) buffs
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>>123540240
Forest Robe
Grima Pants
Scale Boots

All awoken of course.
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>>123541030
Thank you.
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>>123541195

You're not counting both rows are you?

Because row 2 buffs are classed differently from row 1.
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>>123541248
thanks matey
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>>123541195
It isn't.
Summon Servant will sometimes use all of its 5 buffs and it always overrides my Reflect Shield and Enchant Fire.

Re-using both will override Servant's first and second buff
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Can someone help me transfer my Thick Chain to my alt? Need it to craft Zega Spear but can't find it in market and not listed in buy-in shop for some reason.
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>>123541550
Can't trade
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>>123541667
So I need to kill my own Stoulets?
Fuck.
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Is there a way to see a list of completed quests?
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>>123541759
The Archers in the forest of prayer drop a good bit of them. It also says that the mages in crystal mine lot 2 2F drop them.

You could also just buy one of the market. They're pretty damn cheap compared to other weapons but are still good.
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>>123541959
No. That's too convenient.
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>>123534334
They have that on because it's bugged on bosses and makes Cartar do more hits than it should.
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>>123531265
You need level 177-178 to get rank 6.
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A Vikaras just dropped a Kepa Doll, was that really supposed to
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>>123542046
Managed to get one off a white Stoulet Archer at Forest of Prayer.
Now to test this thing out.
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>>123540321
>a class should be immune to all form of counter play
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>>123542505
If it was corrupt it was.
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>>123542505
I have 60+ Kepa Dolls in my inventory because of those faggots.
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>>123542580
>>123542585
There's also kepa stems. You don't think its drops were mixed up with a Kepa?
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>>123541338
>>123541439
I'm a Sadhu, the buff limit is definitely higher than 5. I'll get back to you after I personally find out.
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Which one? fencer looks QT
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>>123542903
Doppel. Fencer uses one-hand rapier.
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>>123543273
Highlander can use 1h, it's not a problem.
c3 highlander into fencer is a decent build actually.
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>>123543101
Squire c2 because you already started.
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I really like this game
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>>123543101
fencer if you are one with the fashion
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Klaipeda channel 1 crashed?
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>4 AM
>Lag
But WHY
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>>123543727
Its 4am onii-chan, get back to bed
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>>123543759
B-but it's 5pm where I am.
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>>123543839
I mean 4am in-game baka nii-chan
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>>123543101
Looks like i gotta go either doppel or squire, no money for fancy fencing sword.

I want to spin to win but get +66 on weapon is pretty sweet too, guess i will go doppel
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>>123544229
Are Rapiers expensive?
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>>123542285
yeah but I can just go into the 175 dungeon and grind there normally at that point right?
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>>123544792
The 175 dungeon is pretty shit if you can't get some people to do it with. You can also just keep questing for more cards once you've used all the ones you had saved anyway. I only did the 175 dungeon a couple of times before moving on.

It's pretty smooth sailing once you get rank 6 either way.
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>attempt to enter item dungeon
>crashes the channel
>eats calcite, but not potential
>3 times

which channel should I crash next
>>
>>123545282
Channel 1 Klaipeda and Fedimian are prime choices. You could also crash Miner's Village with channels with a bunch of bots.
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so who wants some skirmisher pants
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>>123545282
how ?

>>123544792
>>123545245
the 175 dung gives good exp (even before 2xexp event)
its not hard to solo too, for even better exp
when ur 175, there are enough quest to get you to 184 or
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Any word on CBT extension or OBT?
>>
>>123545637
Did you not hear about the 2 week extension with double exp?
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>>123545637
Already extended for two weeks.
OBT sometime in 2017
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>>123545556
>>123545245
just wondering if I cant pop my cards a little bit earlier than 166. Aren't there plenty of cards by then to just reach 186 or no?
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>>123523338
I laugh at this
>subscribed
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>>123545887
You can pop anything below Lv6 any time you want.
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>>123545887
>all before 2x exp
i used all my at 166 and got to 177 with them.
i didnt do the 175 dung and quest got me to 185 and 50%
exp resets when u it 186. then i solod the 175 dung, got to 186, next 175 run and quest got me to 190+
then some 190 runs, 1st i did in party, next solo, and got to 200

dont know how easy it is with event now. but at like 185 i run out. it was not a lot to farm/grind tho. and 186-200 is easymode cuz xp reset
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>>123546098
forgot:
i only saved L7+L8 cards
lower will not rly help at 185
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>>123545637
Some time in 2019
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>OberSturmFuhrer
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Why do people call me a heretic when I say you don't need to do dungeons or grind at demon prison?
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is this supposed to do something
i used it and it just disappeared
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Anyone doing awakening on Gab?
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>see overlevels do 90 dungeon
>decide to join
>its a cata, a hoplite, a scout and a krivis party
>overlevels should do fine and maybe krivis will carry us
>krivis is c 3 and doesnt use zaibas
>killing pack of mobs takes more than 1 minute
Now, what would be a polite way to get the fuck out from this situation?
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>>123546707
>i used it
ANON NO
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>>123546707

You use it at one of the inactive portals (there are 2) and it takes you to a chest you can open.

Got 5 red gems from it once and a Temere Recipe the other time.
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>>123546884
just do it then block all of them
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>>123546884
Get another party. Say you're taking a break, wait outside for another party
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>>123546884
family
you need to be honest
shake your head and tell them they suck dick
>>
How do i upgrade my gems to level 4?
>>
>>123548376
gem dust or use monster gem
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>>123548376
anon its easy and simple just do the same you did to update them to level 3 :^)
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>>123548376
With anything
Mats, talt, other gems, abrasives, equipments etc etc
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>>123548438
>>123548442
>>123548493

can i buy mats from NPCs to get them to level 4?
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Is there any info on what I should do to make a support char and how should I allocate my stats?

Full STR? DEX/SPR/CON? What ratios?

Thanks.
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>>123546234
He was spamming up the chat with two other faggots today.

Blocking them made the game a better place.
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>>123548541
nope

just buy cheap Matrials in Market.
but dont buy things like Wood, Lumber, Pyrite, class/npc mats. they dont work
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>>123548618
>support char
First of all, dont
Second you will need to be more precise, use http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/ and tell us what you want to be
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>>123548618
Closest support one can do is
Cleric > Priest c2(or c3) > Krivis > Any
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>>123548782
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/0whf0lqiqb/
There's plenty of leftover points, no idea what to max/near max outside of Blessing and Sacrament. Also picked Exorcise because I wanted to be able to deal some damage.

The biggest problem I have is that I don't have any idea what stats to allocate.

I was thinking of 2:1 DEX/SPR but I have no real proper idea. STR seem okayish for solo? 2:1 DEX/STR? 1:1? Something else?
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Is Cataphract the most heavily armored looking guy there is?
>>
>>123549489
Build it like a battle priest, just bring lots of pots. You just don't put on heals
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>>123549930
http://www.tosbase.com/game/classes/
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>>123550265
>Barb with Shield
>Corsair with Shield
>>
I like how people get thrown off on leveling on the correct map because maps aren't necessarily connected to each other
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>>123550821
It's because they don't just check their world map
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>>123550265
i see they updated the classes

>musketeer passive
>A small monster [rifles] to instantly killed when a 0.5% chance per level of attack characteristics.
damn, it shit
>>
OH MY GOD

SHUT THE FUCK UP

JESUS CHRIST
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>>123550265
>nothing but female characters
Fucking weeb virgins.
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>>123550901
That sounds huge, though. 2% chance of insta killing monsters like that? Not to mention some of the skills it has aren't only shooting shit, bayonet thrust and butt stroke might be pierce/strike, which makes it more versatile. I'm hoping this class isn't shit
>>
>>123550265

>templar

CANT WAIT
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>>123551110
Calm down, Chronomancer
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I made a thread but it didnt show up. MOOT
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>>123551157
>Archer class
Sure
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>>123551157
2% is fucking low. I used the Snake Bow which have 2% chances to poison the enemy but i never ever successfully poison my target before.

Furthermore, killing small monster is easy enough for Archer because we don't have penalty for small monster.

Snake Bow
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/162108/
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lewd
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>>123551156
>>123551156
>>123551156
>>123551156
NEW
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>>123530450
Silica is the best character of that show, don't bully her
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>>123534292
No jobs, no education, government aid and a computer with Internet access.
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>>123539268
Because pardoners are cute.
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