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Happy Thanksgiving edition

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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>>123454735
Top 10 for dead thread.
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bokor is secretly the best class in the game, discuss
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rip tos
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The true end is you and Gesti falling in love after a mutual appreciation for each other's strength.

Also, Thaumaturges are adorable
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>>123454897
Best at tanking a channel, sure.
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>Tanu Flower was on the Market yesterday for 5m
>It's gone now

I want to complete that collection so bad, how fucking low is the drop rate?
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>>123455021
Low enough that you could probably kill several rares and not ever see it.
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xth for we Revelators are mass-murdering lunatics, high on xp cards and are literally worse then Hitler
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>>123454769
>Demon tits was a good antagonist and it really felt like we were against the odds, but it just threw that motif right out the window.

That's because she's a Queen and the others we've been fighting are basically nobodies.

Although, I expected much more out of bramble because he took over most of a whole fucking forest with giant spiky tendrils.
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GAS THE GODDESSES
DEICIDE ROUTE NOW
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>>123454609
>But it is giving extra damage all the time.
Not ALL the time, it's RNG and you get it mostly from gloves.
I have an upgraded gloves giving me +40~ magic damage and I'm only using it because of the cloth set bonus. If it had some gear with high amounts of magic amp like expecta staff, then I'd probably use it (nobody uses expecta staff by the way), but while it's 30~40 increase, I'm only using it because it's there.
But just like the rest of the set, as soon as I get something with an awaken mod that gives +x elemental damage I'd probable get that, since it's consistent damage.

It only looks good because wizards have nothing else, people only "use" it because it's there, on their cloth gloves.
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>>123454947
gesti has a real nice butt
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>>123455021
It's good when you first encounter them. Drops to 0 after you get the collection.
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>>123455074
>'Bad Guys' kill count: maybe a few hundrets ?
>Revelator kill count: ten-thousands (after Prison and when ur 200)
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>>123455251
Gesti will always be a best

>>123455074
At least Hitler could probably gather herbs without harming himself on thorns, or somehow releasing poisonous gas by trying to collect grapes
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>>123455368
>somehow releasing poisonous gas by trying to collect grapes

Holocaust was caused by Hitler trying to make some dank wine.
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>>123455197
I'm not so sure he did that single-handedly. The thorny as fuck forest spreads even into 100+ areas so it's probably the work of more than just him
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>>123455261
Wait, are you serious that the drop rate is affect by if you have the collection or not?
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>>123455453
No, it is just a desire sensor joke, young anon.
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TOASTER
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>>123455021
I got 1 when i passed thru there, to bad I used it on a gem since I didn't know I needed it at that time. muh greatest shame
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If I go Archer 3, What should I go afterwards?
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What's your excuse, /tosg/?
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>>123455762
Swordsman 1
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>>123455868
I regret not going Rodelero 3 when I went Swordsman 3. I could've gone all the way.
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>>123455762
Wugushi 2 or Ranger 3
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>>123455914
There is someone doing that on Gabija
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>>123455868
>not going wizard 3 thauma 3 for the meme combo
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>>123456020
Leveling is actually easy. People would know once someone reveals the alternative leveling path.
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>>123455868
What a mad man, how do you do damage?
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>>123455868
i'm not surprised he went ahead and just finished with linker 3. good for him
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>>123456201
Never mind i thought it was you, im not really paying a lot of attention
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>>123456159
>alternative leveling path

What?
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If Swordsman 2 -> Highlander 3 -> Fencer a good path if I want to be a Fencer?
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Are barbs really that good? they have some nice numbers, but damage must fall off quite hard later on, I don't know how usefu are his self buffs
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>>123456276
Party dungeons.
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>>123456201
Magic missile probably.
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>>123456342
naw, dungeons are optional
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>>123456293
>Highlander 3
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>>123456342
>Party dungeons.
You mean the one in Fedimian? Or instance dungeons?
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>>123456374

I have no idea how this game works, dude. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>123455762
You kill yourself because you're worthless in parties.
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>>123456331
It really depends on what you want to take after barb.
Cataphract? Doppel? Fencer? Squire?
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>>123456331
Damage doesn't really fall off. Enemies never really get much stronger.
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>>123456394
Fedimian.
All the enemies are scaled to the party's level and so are the exp.
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>>123456420
Fencer
>>123456425
Yeah, I meant relatively. I'm still not entirely convinced that sw1pel1barb3fencer is a good build like somone suggested the other day, then again I don't know any alternatives because I've never player swordies
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>>123455964
Based purely on guess work, how would this work?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/2zupt91yud/
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So why does the red number on my whisper tab go up but when I switch to it there's nothing
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Will this actually work?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/g9viw3rjvg/
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>>123456546
That's a decent build. Sw2 is not amazing since Restraint is only a half-second stun. I'd always take Hl or Pel in C2.
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>>123456549
>archerc3-rangerc3
Not who you quoted, but I personally wouldn't, at least for this beta. Either go archerc3 and go something else like wugushi, or go archer c1/2 ranger c3 and something else, like rogue or schwarzer reiter
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>>123456549
>Archer C3

Prepare for suffering.
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>>123456808
I've made a Wizard 3 and Swordsman 3, I can take it.
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People in tos are some of the most dense motherfuckers. You want to buy a gem a guy is selling, you ask the price and he tells in shout that he cant reply to everyone. You ask him to name top offer in shout then so you would make a better one or offer him to auction it, he ignores you. I cannot remember when I saw this level of retardation. Is it because of T rating?
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>>123456834
>no aoe
>most skills deal shit damage
>subapar AA unless you invest on equips
I hope you have the money to buy them oblique attributes and spam it to your heart's content
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>>123456857
T rating is a much higher rating than the average MMORPG. Anime style anyway.

I've always wondered if Western MMOs have more adults, since they're in their homeland and don't suffer the "it's cute so it must be for kids" stigma that ruins anime style MMOs in the west.
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>>123456985
I think 10 minutes of WoW would show you how wrong that is
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>>123457141
WoW has too large a large userbase. (that is, there's going to be a lot of kids regardless of if they were only 5%) Choose another.
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>>123456985
The whole chat system sucks but the whisper system sucks the most.
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>>123457217
You meant that for >>123456680, right?
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>>123456964
So just like my Swordsman 3?
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>>123457269
I guess, if you like suffering you could make archer c3. What did you chose after swordie c3 anyway?
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>>123457338
I'm >>123455914, I didn't have the balls to do it and just went Barb 1 and Corsair 2.
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>>123457258
Yeah, and for >>123456857 too.

Lost track while alt-tabbing during the 190 dungeon.
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>>123456985
scarlet blade tera vindictus age of conan blade and soul ffxiv

tits everywhere
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I just found out that using alchemist HP potions and then resting cancels out your alchemist regen ticks. New bug or only related to alch pots?
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>>123457552
that happens on all health pot
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>>123457552
Maybe you just rightclicked it. Apparently rightclicking your "statuses" cancels it.
I know this 'cause I'm a sorc. I use it to unsummon my card.
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>>123457552
but NPC Pot , then Rest also cancels NPC Pot ticks
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>>123457545

Blade and Soul is M.
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>>123457692
I thought it was rated Tits.
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>>123457552
Maybe because they share the same icon and the gooks forgot to separate their effect.
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>>123456857
He tries to get a buyer, who does not know the true value of the gem. Like rich kids buying gems for >1m.
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>>123457914
monster gems are probably gonna go for >1m, in a couple of days
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>>123457867

It's not. I was going to make a "mammories" joke but shut up it's early
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>>123457692
>T rating is a much higher rating than the average MMORPG.
>much higher
>T
>higher than M
wew there lad
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>>123457545
Not only do you not understand the question (are there more adults, not are they more "adult"), only one of those are western. RO probably had more naked tits than any of those games anyway.
I'm glad ToS is a bit more subtle. There are enemies with big boobs but they aren't as in your face, character art included. No bottomless fox chicks or naked girls covered in tentacles.

If you meant the rating, none of them are anime style except maybe BnS.
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>>123457914
That was a rare gem though, might be the only one. For summoning skill.
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>>123458281
Which summoning skill?
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I have no idea how people are running out of quests in the game at 184-188. I didn't run out until 196 because the 186 reset makes you gain way too many levels within the span of fifteen minutes from questing. I've seen like nine people today who are out of quests, though
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>sorc summon drains sp
>go 1:1 int spr to get some dank regen
>the drain is based on your max sp
>you gain max sp faster than sp regen

Life is suffering
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Enjoy the name "Saviors", Saviors.
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>>123458396
You don't regen in combat or while the summon is out. You enhance the SP regen attribute so that you regain SP quicker after you despawn the grimoire summon. You also put two points into Servant (three for the attribute, then respec to two) so that the cat gives you an SP regen buff alongside increased AoE Attack Ratio
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>>123458506
It's really annoying that we can't pick what buffs the cat will cast.
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>>123458252
>implying any of those except conan aren't animu

anyway, secret world, teso, tortanic, rift path of exile if you want western games full of children
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Is there some sort of quest in the Constructor's chapel? I got a flask, a bunch of books and notes
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>>123458591
I agree, I'd force it to cast SP and Dark Attack if I could without going full investment
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>>123458626
>secret world

It's still alive?
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>>123458591
Whoa, cats are cute.
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Here's my solo attempt at Guard Dog Cerberus from the level 190 dungeon.

>>123457673
I have no reason to right click my buffs.

>>123457887
Figured it out. It's because I was resting at the bonfire, which shares the same icon as the HP regen, causing it to override. Blood hell, IMC.
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Does Rogue 2 normally go Str or Dex? Because I'm Dex right now
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>>123458727
I really like his lack of add control. He just fills the whole dungeon with them
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>>123458367
The summoning skill.
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>>123458727
The doggy was still chasing me so here's a quick one of Archmage Fire Lord.
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>>123425942

>implying Linker Psycho and Cryo interactions won't get nerfed to the ground and their skills re-arranged
>implying Templeshooter card won't get removed from the game
>implying Sorc skills that are all over the place due to max 5 ranks won't get re-arranged at game release either
>implying that won't happen to Alchemist skills as well
>implying Item Awakening won't be a C3 skill
>implying your character won't be shunned out by people who already know the established meta and good builds when they see your path choice

HURR RANK 6 IS ENDGAME GUISE. Get fucked mognoloid.
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>>123458893
Templeshooter won't get removed from the game. Even if they nerf his auto attack, they'd need to do a Hell of a lot to his Riding skills in order to drop its value. And if they finally do manage that then Chapparition, Cerberus or Cyclops become the next top tier cards. But they'd actually need to outright remove Templeshooter's S-Attack because that's the strongest Riding skill in the game by sheer design, and one of the best AoEs the game has right now.

Better solution is to actually focus more on tweaking the other cards, and unbugging Nuale and Rithiris
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>>123456342
Do you mean RAIDS/MISSIONS?
or do you mean PARTY QUESTS?
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I wish I could find people to do Merc quests with at 200.
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>>123458591
How hard did she just get slapped to have that kind of mark?
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Does anybody know which line I need to change in the keybinds XML to remove the 'shift holds character in place' feature.
There is really nothing in there that is similar
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>>123456697
Yes but it's garbage.
Pyro2>Pyro+Cryo unless you're going Psycho+Linker later, and even then it's a poor choice
Elementalist is all or nothing. Electrocute is broken and doesn't work half the time, trash. If it worked maybe yo could get away with 1 Ele, but in most cases if you're going ele it's cause you want DPS and as it stands now you want at least 1 circle linker for any DPS since wizard is all/mostly AOE dps and this adds a LOT to that.


Sorc/Alch is fine, your path up to it is garbage.
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>>123459317
Someone go a step further and tell me how to bind keys so that skill and movement hotkeys are the same in mouse mode as in keyboard mode, except that space is still jump.
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>>123457997
The main reason for the current price of monster gems is simple actually.
The highest most people are willing to pay for junk ETC items is 100, these give 5 GEM exp each.
15500/5 = 3100
3100 ETC items per 1 Monster Gem
1 ETC item = 100 silver
100 silver x 3100 = 310k
310k is the ideal amount before you're better off having an alt sit around with your money purchasing them.

Some people buy them up to 500k because:
A)Time cost in purchasing etc items from newbs by AFKing an alt
B)Rarity of monster gems
C)Competition for raising gem stats requiring a raise in price

This goes solely for people purchasing 'any' gem. Some are of course going to be very wanted or rare and will cost a lot more, at least if they would be tradable in OBT which they won't be if kCBT is any info towards that.
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Is there a headgear the covers the eyes or face?
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>>123459659
I don't think so. Headgears seem pretty boring so far.
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>>123459659
Nope. Even the masks are just hats. Mirtis's helmet is the closest.
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>>123458858
How can you even call that an attempt?
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>>123458739
STR
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>>123458839
For the devil?
That is indeed rare.
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so i ran into an idiot who couldn't handle magnum opus and complained and complained that it's too hard and the system needs to give hints, despite repeatedly telling him it's not and him not getting it, he claimed that his friend 'found the list in the files'

I've gone over every IPF I could in iCBT2 and haven't been able to find out going by either name or by ClassID of the specific items.

I'm pretty sure this guy is just fucking lying, but maybe I'm retarded, so anyone else know if this is actually the case or not?
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>>123454897
Pretty much.
Even the spawn rate of one room in Demon Prison 2 can't keep up with me
But it's okay, because I can just killsteal full parties out of two rooms at the same time!
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>you can cast the broom trap you captured over a distance
This is nice
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>>123459859
so far from what i read here, you need to experiment by yourself.
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>tfw already board of the bgm

r8 Composers

S.F.A>Questrosound>Soundtemp>Kevin>Shit>Symphonix
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>>123458506
>You don't regen in combat
YES
YOU DO
FAGGOT
can we put a list of how every "confusing" mechanic in the game works in the OP? i'm going insane
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>>123460071
Bach>vivaldi
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>>123460071
>soundtemp in the middle

Nice shit taste
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>>123459496
But wouldn't more skills be more dps for wizards?
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>>123460232
ROfag pls. Soundtemps tracks arent even that great in ToS. They could do much better than this.
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>>123460158
listen up nig
the four seasons is a revolutionary masterpiece
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>>123459181
Party quests or dungeons?
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>>123460251
Not necessarily at all, especially with cryo's long CDs
Cryo and Ele are both usually C3 or do not take.
Cryo's exception being some psycho love.
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>>123460286
Streamside is still the comfiest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCUNruxThQU
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>>123460309
Not that Anon but, I do IT from home and get customers complaining about our 'elevator music shitty taste music' when they're on hold
>Get put on hold while talking to a supervisor one day
>Four seasons
Jesus, fucking christ vermont is full of uncultured swine
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>>123460286
Nothing has come close to this BGM after I heard it in mage tower, Nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuBRCZB_9sg
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>>123460379
I agree but I was talking about Tree of Saviors bgm.
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Where can I get string amulet?
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>>123456857
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>>123460332
Wouldn't the other skills cover the cyro's long cooldown then?
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>>123460627
What a retard.
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>>123460647
People usually don't realize that by the time you're in later ranks, Cryo's cooldowns don't feel like a problem because you can't exhaust all of your cooldowns before the shortest ones come up. If you have other skills, the only cooldowns you truly wait on are Ice Wall and Snow Rolling (if you went C3) because Ice Pike, Bolt and even Frost Pillar will be back up before you've exhausted another class's cooldowns.

It's not that he's necessarily wrong, though. Just that people never keep this in mind
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>>123460627
>trying to launder important items at a low price
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Someone tell me what goes well with thaum, I wish to play big head mode.
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>>123461053

Linker.
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>>123460969
I do think there should be a shared storage.
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>>123461106
Is inker the best class for wizard, currently?
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>>123461115
That wont happen because everyone will play alchemist then.
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>>123458683
Won't be for long. Funcom is tanking.

Like they're doing so bad they repackaged the abandoned theme park from solomon island as it's own stand alone "experimental horror" game.
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>>123460627
Did he try to sell it on the market or something? You can't even buy your own stuff on a different character I think it just says "that item has already sold."
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>>123461182

Probably. There's very little reason not to take C1 most times.
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>>123461312
Yes you can. I transfer money between my characters like that all the time. I don't even give a fuck about the 10% cut.

But that only works because I list trash items at stupid high prices to buy with the character I want to give the money from. Not selling expensive shit for pennies so it gets snatched up.
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>>123456293
goodness no, highlander is all about twohanded swords. Best would be swordsman2 or peltasta > barbarian3 > fencer.
I believe this is the most cookie cutter build.
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>>123459859
He's not lying.
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>>123461534
I tried it before and every time I would go to buy it I got "that item already sold" but it would still appear on the list after refreshing the market.
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>>123461702
Well I've done it 5 times in the past 3 days, so maybe try it again?

Could have been a market glitch.
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>>123461549
>swordsman 2

What's the point? By the time you get to Fencer, the buffs fall off completely.
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Does something like cryo-linker-elem work? Or should I go full cryo-elem?
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>>123460647
It's not a problem later, but it is a big annoyance during those levels.
If you want to talk lategame past rank3 it isn't worth a rank in linker/thaum.

>>123461683
Well that's unfortunate, thanks then.
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>>123461997
>does [wizard class] + linker work?

Yes
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>>123461683
The saddest part is that I found it it was labeled puzzlecraft but was looking in the patches not the data thinking it would be updated, thus never found it.
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One of the weapons in my inventory is used as an item in a recipe I have unlocked. Everytime I weapon switch out of it, I receive the "You have an item that can be crafted" notification box in the middle of my screen.

Is there anyway to turn this off?
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>>123461821
that's why I said swordsman2 or peltasta, and max attribute concentrate is pretty decent with multihit skills like seism
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>>123462254
put recipe in storage.
WOW
:)
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I was away for the past 5 days and my Arde Dagger just disappeared from the market. Is the eating item bug still there? I thought they fixed it.
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Is it just me or does everything in the game feel like a placeholder? Like nothing is really finalized, but for some reason you don't get the feeling the gooks have any real motivation of changing anything or ever adding the "finalized" stuff
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>>123462881
Its back baby~
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>>123462997
It's a betaaaa.

The game probably will be completely different in a year.
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>get bleeding from those bloody lizards at greene manor
>oh shit arde's killing me, quick swap to shield
>phew, that was close
>cast summon familiar lvl 4 out of reflex

OH SHIT I FORG-
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>>123462997
The closest to finished zones you have are pre-80. The higher leveled you get, the less there is and it begins to become apparent how many maps we currently have are still works in progress. Once you hit 160+ maps just keep you in them for like 8-10 quests then send you to the next zone.

It's stuff like this that makes me say they need more tests, and I'm hoping we don't see OBT for a while on our end. They need to do a lot of polishing just pre-200 before we're ready for much more. Sure, a lot of content can be added over time, through OBT, further testing in general and early release (and give them plenty of room for keeping the game alive by feeding it content on a regular basis) but there's a lot that's barren and there are a lot of quests that were in which were removed
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>>123463483
I really wonder how it is compared to the kCBT. Aren't there a couple of anons here playing on it at the moment?
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4q526xmjmq/

Could I still do damage while being extremely evasion tanky?
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>>123462350

Why bother with Peltasta if you're going Fencer. There's no synergy at all.
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>>123463353
what
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>>123463653
swashbuckling, and you have to take something between swordsman and barbarian and highlander has even less synergy, unless you absolutely must have cartar stroke.
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>>123460627
>SEA
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>>123463483
Yeah I hope they go back to those 80~200 maps to finish them properly but they seem more concerned in adding new classes and NEW MAPS now
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>>123463657
Bleeding is basically you hitting yourself per tick
Bats from summon will attack anything you hit
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>>123463016
So it's not just me?
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>>123463353
I hope they never change it. It's the funniest shit
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>>123463653
Swashbuckling. Swap. Weapons. It's a thing
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>>123463932
No. But it comes back and out again. I would come back to town, it eats my items. Come back again, items back. And again, some are sold. Its like your dog in ICU
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>>123463735
I don't see why anyone would take Cartar Stroke for anything outside of easy leveling.
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>>123464152
Just ease it out until rank 4. Leveling is piss easy now with the double rates
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>finally reach 5 stars on a blue gem
>think it's the maximum level for gems
>turns out you can upgrade it even further

So what's the max level
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>>123464152
That's what I've been saying if you're going fencer you're better off taking swordsman 2 or peltasta at rank 2
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>>123464297
Are there alternatives to this build that could be as efficient? Fencer seems cool, but barbarians seem boring and I don't want to c3 a class again for now
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>>123464283
Currently supported ingame files : 10
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>>123464921
probably, I just don't know them
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>>123465427
>everyone making thaumaturges now
Thanks, can't wait for the imminent hipster hatewave
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>>123465538
I dunno about you, but seeing so many Thaumaturges now gives me a lot of people to fawn over. One day I will find a Thaumaturge waifu of my own
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>>123465538
Before they were cool etc.
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The only good thing about Thaumaturge are her clothes. and meme hands, and if you play in party

Prove me wrong.
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>>123465720
Needs mid and lower headgears. C'mon IMC, give it to me
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>>123465538
I made a Thaumaturge before it was cool.
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>>123465538
I know you are retarded, but what else is there left to play?
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>>123465827
Don't care. If I could keep a Thaumaturge waifu in my party at all times, I would
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Please vote "Tosters"
http://www.poll-maker.com/poll495084x1C0746d9-20
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Is Gabija still x3 exp? I want to make an alt
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>>123466234
>Please vote "Tosters"
>http://www.poll-maker.com/poll495084x1C0746d9-20
NO, I'm voting for saviors.
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>>123466234
I voted Saviors
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>>123461549
>highlander is all about twohanded swords
They have one skill that requires two handed swords, and one attribute that increases crit damage.
And that one skill is a guard.
Also, Highlander skills "look better" if you're going into a Fencer route since skills are generally quick and fast hitting (for example, moulinet, cross cut, skyliner) compared to the more "brutal" barbarian skills like impaling someone on your sword and kicking them off.
Highlander also has some nice skills like Skull Swing that reduce enemy defense and will have utility throughout the game.
Highlander should be just as viable route as Barbarian.
Can't say I've tried it though.
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>>123465720
>NPCs are actually sporting cashshop hairstyles

Aw man how did I not see it sooner.
It's like "See a hairstyle on an NPC you like? Well it's gonna be cashshop."
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anyone on zemyna got a galok gem for sale
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>>123466664
Not gonna lie, I'd buy that hairstyle
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>>123466664
I'm SOLD!
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>>123466658
Barbarian gets seism, warcry and frenzy and fencer gets a skill that nullifies enemies slash defense and another skill that nullifies pierce defense. But I suppose it's a matter of preference.
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>>123465538
I was a thaum before it was cool
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I love the tree's at 2nd demon prison everybody should grind on them
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>>123467362
I've been planning on it, wanna party?
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>>123466664
I'd pay money for this.
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Ranger Master is the cutest
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>>123466664
I had this exact thought this morning. Depending on the price they may get a couple shekels out of me
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>>123467869
The game feels like a waifu simulator
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Does the boss message announcement heard on both floors that he can spawn or is it gonna be heard on 1 of them?
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Can High Guard and Finestra be used together?
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>Thaum swells me
>Summon a larger Corpse Tower
They truly are the best fucking waifus
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>>123468492
How is Necromancer? I'm getting close to Rank 6 and I still haven't chosen. I'm Wiz>Pryo2>Thaum2, trying to decide between Thaum3, Necro, or Alchemist.
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Should I max Stabbing or Pierce first?
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>>123468697
stabbing
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>>123468753
How do I make that uninterruptible? Some attacks would cancel it even with pain barrier
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Vakarine!
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>>123468674
It's incredibly fun. I didn't realize Corpse Tower was affected by Thaum's Swell left arm until just now, but it really improves its damage (and height)

Alchemist would make you a lot of silver, Necro is fun as heck and Decay is a great debuff to put on anything (reduces maximum HP, which also makes it easier for overkills and nothing seems to resist it) no idea how Thaum3 would work out
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>>123468895
Facia Autisma
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Saw a Thaum that said he's going full CON.

Isn't it actually better for Thaums if they go full INT?
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>>123468903
I guess I'll try out Necro. It's a bit too late to hop on the Alchemist money train, and Thaum 3 doesn't add much. If the rank 7 classes are amazing I'll probably do Thaum 3 into Featherfoot or Warlock.
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>>123465827
Easy farming, 2x1 bonus items with swell body,
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>>123469262
Yes, more bonus points.
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Anyone doing anything in gabija?
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>>123465827

>if party

lol, no. you know that the pyromancer c1 skill outdps the pyromancer c3 skills with maxed thaum buffs? now imagine pyroc2 + thauma c3
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>>123469291
I want to see what a second circle in Necro would enable, and how they'll redistribute Sorc skills across circles. I'd really like to keep the theme of my character in the future by adding in Warlock, though and the overall distribution depends on how further circles in sorc and necro work out
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>>123469525
Camping Cerberus
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We told him to +15 a fish... he actually did it the absolute madman
hahahahahaha!
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Having gone Bokor 3, I just dunnow how to top this off. The current bug has destroyed any desire to see how far I can go, even if they fix it.
I WOULD'VE gone Priest 2 and get those wonderful buffs.
Now I'm considering Oracle just to see how well it really works as a utility class. That attribute on Change looks absolutely bitchin, even if it does max out at 2.5%.
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>>123469846
I've heard the attribute on Change costs an assload.
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>>123469846
Being Bokor, I'm fucking used to that.
Thanks, imc.
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>>123466234
>pic related
>all these BRs and SEAs
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>>123469846
Go Oracle for the super cute costume.
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>>123469816

holy fuck
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>>123470367
requesting a art of male sorc
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>post yfw wiz3
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>>123470317
Every morning, I pray that LevelUp decides that they DO want their own server and contain them.
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>>123468903
What's your class build and problems regarding necro?
I'm a sorc and wanna go necro for this beta.
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>>123470367
I wonder how much art of sorcerers can be expected by the time it's released. I'd prefer more Necro, Cryo and Thaumaturge art
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>>123470445
>not Van Darkholme

You male sorcs are slackers.
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Where can I get Aias?
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>>123470542
I've found the one who took 'Darkholme' and he wasn't even sorc.
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>>123470525
I just want more Grita.
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>Perspective Distortion
>real skill name is Undistance

College dropout NEET localization team hard at work ruining the localization I see
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What the hell does Conversion do?
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>>123470478
Wiz -> Cryo C3 -> Sorc -> Necro

My issues with Necro are actually few and far between. Skeletons are buggy as fuck if you ever throw an instance transition at them. At level 200 this isn't an issue, because you no longer have that (no quests, obviously) but when you're questing the game doesn't know what it's doing. They run off in the overworld when it suits them, and transitioning into a quest instance turns them hostile, then your other summons kill them (you can't, because they have green names, but they turn hostile because they attack with red numbers and not allied white) and they drop kepa items.

Similarly to Salamion and your auto attacking Sorc summon, Shoggoth, the skeletons and Corpse Tower might decide they really hate traps and focus on killing them and not the boss. Fights like Necroventer are probably gonna bug your Corpse Tower momentarily through silence traps disabling its attacks if they surround it+knockback confusing it. It does fix itself after a little bit, though.

I have a lot of fun with my build and don't regret it so far. In the future I just want to see how the different circles and their respective skills come into play, but I'd really like to add in either Featherfoot or Warlock for this character during release.
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Is this lewd?
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>>123470871
Every time I see "Sylph" get turned into "Self" in a shoddy localization job, I cry a little more.

It's not that fucking hard, but fags keep doing it so often, it's practically reached meme status.
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>>123471145
Much better than kissing
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>>123471145
slap my ass
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>>123471145
Just looks like a high-five to me.
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>>123470449
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>>123471145
Oh, I ran past them a bit ago
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>>123471145
MOOOOOOOOOODS!!
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>>123471145
>not even sure where that slut's hand has been
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Can someone tell me where this mystical cerberus exactly spawns on 5/4f?
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>>123471284
Met him once at 4f
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>>123471120
Thanks for the information, anon.
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>>123471120
What do you think about Sorc2 instead of Sorc1/Necro1?
As far as i know skeles aren't that strong, dunno about Tower. Decay seems to be amazing but lv10 Summon and lv10 Familiar sounds juicy.
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>Practically kill self making new best weapon from recipe found
>Requires a bunch of other crafted weapons as meterials
>Immediately find new recipe for better weapon
>Its materials are actually fairly easy to get

...why
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>>123471494
yeah but I want to know where so I can check properly if he's up
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>>123471581

There will be a mapwide message if he appears.
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>>123470449
>Wiz2/Link2
>g-guys stop using your Shield, mine has superior attributes, you waste your sp
>mfw
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>>123471580
level difference?
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>>123471580
IMC can't logikz

They are able to create stupid mechanics only to give a class the ability to counter it, or they give a class a stupid mechanic so they have to counter it by creating an even more stupid mechanic
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Why is undercutting people in market a bad thing?
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just a beta bro
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>>123468903
I'm a thauma necro and my corpse tower doesn't increase size with or without the buff.

Also tried the damage and it was pretty much the same.
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>>123472014
why do you have holy powder and gislotis on your hotbar? to keep track of how many you got?
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>>123472014
whats your beef? its probably considered flying
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>>123472014
I like how not even the monsters are safe in this purgatory of bugs.

You use Magic Missile and it goes everywhere but into the enemy? The same happens to the monsters!

You use Subzero Shield and it does nothing? The monsters use it and it doesn't even play the animation!
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>>123472130
yes
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>>123471580
I remember feeling really good about making Skull Crusher.
Then I got the Fedimian Club recipe.
Oh. Well.
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>>123472197
>get a flying mob to low hp
>all the guys around cast heal
>will dart across the screen to stand over the heal square and not trigger it

It's just silly sometimes.
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>>123466063
>>123469342
>>123469543
I don't hate Thau or anything, it just doesn't fit my style I guess.
I'm Cryo>Linker>Ele>Sorc about to go Necro.
Would Thau instead of Ele make noticiable results?

Actually my plan was testing Ele C2~3 and I stopped at C1, but changed my mind and went Sorc after they extended the CBT.
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>>123466234
>No toscuk
>No Tosbabbies
>No toasters
>No tossers
>No late-for-RO-glorious-days-fags
>No cutes
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>>123471561
I want level 10 Familiar, but I don't want to sacrifice Decay+Shoggoth+Corpse for it and a level 10 Summoning. My opinion on it will be influenced by seeing how they redistribute skills across the circles in release. It'd be nice if I could have a level 10 Corpse Tower, points in Flesh Hoop, level 10 Familiar/Summoning with a not-bugged version of Raise Dead.

Raise Dead is good when it works properly. Which really just means when you're in a dungeon and not running around the world where it's going to go on a world tour. The damage with little investment into enhance is like 800 per skeleton every hit. It's not that great if you compared it to Familiar but they're persistent attackers (until their AI makes them do stupid things) so they contribute more. Only downside is how frail skeletons are

>>123472129
I was rushing the level 90 dungeon and had both Thaumaturge buffs on me before summoning Corpse Tower vs Necroventer. The Corpse Tower I summoned had the size of a level 6 Corpse Tower (I've seen that becaue I have it gemmed in Audra, but I was using Ignition+Arde for the fight and don't have it gemmed into that) and a little less damage than it. It was hitting Necroventer for 1.3k while it usually only hits Necroventer for 1.1-1.2k consistently
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>kiss someone "special"
>feel my face heat up
>adds me on steam
Is this love?
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>>123471691
Is this on both maps 4/5f?
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>>123472516
LoliPantsu is that you?
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>>123472631
it's you being a thunderous faggot
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>>123472651

Yes. Provided it does spawn.

Basically what people do is they camp at these maps, wait for the estimated time and if there's no message, they won't even bother searching the map.
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>Kill Kubas and get his cube
>Open the box and i get literally nothing

This is a joke right?
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Anyone know if the monster Bellapid exists in the game? Doesn't show up in the database, but there is a Bellapid Monster Gem for Backstab.
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>>123472906
dosh
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>>123472209

>tfw you've gotten so good at Magic Missiles you know how to bruteforce it to miss when monsters use it
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>>123472516
>Ele1

Elementalists have only one actual/reliable spell, Frost Cloud, and one "special cases" spell, Meteor.

Neither are Ele1

Everything else is either rng, shit or meh
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>>123472197
Nah, it's just that converted mobs usually just stay there doing nothing.
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Damn, I'm about to hit rank 5 and I was so hyped for converted mob train ;-;

guess I'm going Monk instead of pala c2
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>>123473354
Holy shit, yours actually moves instead of sitting still and taking hits until it dies like mine.
>>
Is it worth it to go Sapper at all if you can't go c2? Gonna be a Rogue c2 later
>>
>>123473572

meant to reply to >>123473354

why bother playing a PvE based game when the AoE suffers from severe autism
>>
Is it better to find a special someone, or just be a complete shameless slut who kisses literally everyone?

I feel this is an important question that needs answering for the beta.
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>>123473336
I've never seen Frost Cloud and Sphere. tosbase has no webms on them.
Anyone can provide webms? I'm curious.
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>>123473601

Go Quarrel Shooter for the costume.
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I've heard Stone Skin allows you to block magic. Does anyone have feedback on the veracity of this? And if it's true, how reliable is it? It's no use if you only block one or two spells here and there, it'd have to be a good portion of them.

Plus I bet it only works on magical auto-attacks, not magic itself right?
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>>123466234
ToShills
>>
Nagi is a fucking jew.
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>>123474234
It's bugged
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>Rexipher will never be your caring husband

why live
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>>123472550
>>123466234
>>123474248
Tostadas.
>>
I got qt goat horns, do you like them?
Does anyone want to run the 90 dungeon? In a bit is fine.
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>>123474317
He reminds me of the sword spirit from Mabinogi
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>>123474317
>Gesti will never magically restrain you and milk your pathetic revelator shota dick with her contorting demon lord pussy
No!
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>>123474404
Cute
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>>123474404
>Not soloing the 90 dungeon through sheer force and willpower
>>
>>123474404
If you went pyro instead of cryo you could easily solo the 90 dungeon. Gave me 6 levels soloing at level 90.
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>>123474561
>Letting them solo it instead of protecting them from danger
You just don't understand
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>>123474462
Fuck you.
You reminded me of my lovely fem ego sword </3
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>>123474561
>>123474617
I guess I'll give it a try then.

>>123474513
Thank you anon.
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I want it so bad.
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>>123473957
Frost Cloud is a stronger (?) version of Flame Ground, basically.

>>123473336
Probably I'll just roll Cryo C3 or Cryo/Linker/Thau next beta. Ele1 is really underwhelming.
>>
>>123473957
>>123473957
https://youtu.be/BAcamxuDtAk

Here, Frost Cloud. It's basically a Flame Ground that hits as fast as Fire Pillar.

Sphere is meh, it's kinda an Ice Bolt that don't freeze
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>>123474932
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAcamxuDtAk

Frost Cloud is better than Flame Ground, but it doesn't have 100% uptime.
>>
So how is healing in this? Don't you just put down heal squares near but not too near your party and let them walk into it themselves?
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>>123474980
>2000 per tick with quick cast
how the hell is your damage so low
>>
>>123474736
Is Pora even in the game yet?
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>>123475483
i wish ;-: people just want it for the dumb collection
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Who /cute/ here
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Hugs are better than kisses.
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>>123475404
basically
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>>123474980
>>123475220
Again, they should just move Frost Cloud to Cryo C2 and move Gust to Ele C3
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>>123475769
More like move Frost Pillar and Subzero down a rank each.
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Tfw you realize Greed and Lust are not Deadly Sins.
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>Fighting Necroventer in the 90 dungeon
>He is down to 10% hp
>He runs away and is fully healed
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>>123475738
That looks more like you pulled him in for a forceful kiss!
>>
Swarzer Reiter benefits from near full DEX, right?

I'm at 35 STR 65 DEX, I should just be leveling DEX now right?
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Would anyone have a Free Partisan recipe they could sell me by any chance?
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>>123475947
Should have given chase faster
>>
>>123475932
Can't lust for the goddesses and have it be a sin.

The goddesses can't be greedy megalomaniacs and have it be a sin.
>>
Finally got that petamion recipe, anyone from /tosg/ want to non-jew me obsidian?
>>
>>123475738
That is just a normal kiss, who the hell just leans forward towards each other with hands by sides to kiss that is just awkward.
>>
where's the panto wizards?
>>
>dis nigga tries to scam me into "bidding" 2m for a monster gem
>"it's only closed beta xD just give me the money"
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>>123476058
How'd you change the camera like that
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>>123475981
N-No, it's a hug! A hug!
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>>123474476
>Gesti will never go clit dick on female revelators.

Why even live?
>>
>>123476271
It's cute, like they're both nervous and don't know what to do with their hands.
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>>123476168
I would usually just give it to you but I'm going to have to +7 this spear >>123476058 and I'm going to need the cash. Is 100k okay anon? Half the lowest market price.

>>123476340
<HotKey ID="ToggleFlyCamera" Name="" DownScp="_cam=(not _cam);camera.ChangeCameraType(_cam and 1 or 0)" UpScp="None" Key="F11" UseShift="YES" UseAlt="NO" UseCtrl="NO" OnEdit="NO"/>

WASDQE
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>>123476403
DELETE THIS
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>>123459046
>they should fix every other card in the game
>leave temple shooter functional

Anon you're so cute expecting them to revamp all the shitty cards and leave the OP one untouched. You guys are delusional if you expect a single Rank to give this much power, sorc pets are supposed to be shitty, an addition to your power, not BE your character.
>>
>>123476552
Yes, where do you want to meet up?
>>
Where do you get temple shooter and how much does it cost? I kind of want to try out other cards before locking myself in to the top deeps card, so I might just wait till I can earn one myself.
>>
>>123476713
Klaipeda Ch2, Item Merchant's roof
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>>123476609

they need to fix this. buff the others, nerf linker, ts and etc. ppl here will cry: oh but that's the only useful wizard branch!

even if this afirmative is false, that kind of thing can't be there on official release
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>>123476018
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>>123461284
Well I just hope they allow people to play "the issues" for free before the game flunks, those were the most polished content in the game, and had to hide them behind a paywall.

I would have bought them, but fuck paying in euros, and they keep releasing this newbee packs that have a bunch of issues, while I been playing since release and don't get anything.
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>sorcerers can't invite their waifu/husbando to sit on their summon with them and ride around
Why IMC?
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>>123476871
Your summon is supposed to be your waifu.
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>people that have buy windows for talt at below 5000

I wish these people would die.
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>>123476747
thanks again
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>>123476018
Archers have higher crit passively, stop being a huge DEX pussy
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>3rd floor mage tower
>Barely surviving
>Starving Demon way
>Barely touch things and they die
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>>123476973
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>>123477186
Now to farm that mithril, or does anyone on /tosg/ want to sell me one?
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>>123476552
Nice.
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>>123477186

>I never got this recipe

Why
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mad deeps @ Hallowventer
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>no pardoner scrolls on laima

why
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>>123477335
upskirt camera when
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>>123477326
It's me again, I can give you the mithril too, how much do you need?
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>>123477638
Just one, what do you want for it and you don't happen to have a talisman also do you?
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has anyone managed to build a mind control paladin? once you control the enemies they follow you forever? is there a cap on how many enemies you can control? can you heal them like zombies?
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>>123473601
sapper's c1 skills aren't that great. stockades are alright, but without broom trap sapper is nothing
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>>123476991
but people told me it's better late-game to have as much crit as possible?

PLEASE I'VE GOTTA KNOW
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>>123477758
That would be funny but no I don't have the talisman. 100k again for the mithril I suppose?
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>>123477818
Conversion rarely works. I think it's bugged, I can see the "Covnerted" debuff on mobs but they don't turn friendly.
And when the conversion actually succeeds, the mobs just stay there and do nothing.
They can get unstuck sometimes, but I can't reproduce it consistently yet.
>>
This game sure is special. I mean what other MMO lets you KISS?
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>>123477990
sure, im sitting on ch2 again
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I just wanna get a quick lvl 90 so I can show off my beta e-penis when the game comes out.

What build do I do? Bokor?
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>>123477069
>Small
>Cloth
>Flying

Yup, it's the best.
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>>123478071
Bokor is literally suffering UNTIL you get your level into the 80s.

Then it continues to be suffering because of all these godawful bugs.
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#REKT
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>>123477995
What does Conviction even do? Also is Barrier as useful as it looks? Paladin c3 looks really fun

But can you do enough damage to level solo?
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>>123478182
rip
I love me some necromancers.

So.....monk?
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Do we uh...get anything for playing a lot in the beta besides game knowledge?
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>>123478547
Fun isn't enough for you faggot?
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>>123478547
Dual
Wield
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>>123478547

Life experiences.
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>>123478547
Fictional armband
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>>123478547
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>>123478547
We know how to kiss before anyone else!
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>>123478547
You get to find all the bugs and hope they aren't fixed by open, then you use all those bugs and sell silver for $$$
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>>123478547
Sweetie pie stop asking stupid questions you might get pregnant...
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>anything Symphonix begins to play
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>>123478547
what are we supposed to learn
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>>123460071
ToS BGM is just plain unmemorable and mediocre as hell.
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>>123478951
You can get pregnant in this game?
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>>123479171
to not play archer
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>>123479428
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Biggest improvement they can make for the game? More areas where you won't get fucking attacked. It's impossible to find anywhere free of monsters to go take a piss or recover health. I nearly pissed myself last night because I didn't want to lose my gems.
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>Feed a lady sandwiches until you kill her
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I WANT TO BE KISSED TO DEATH IN KLAIPEDA
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>>123479656
Just warp back to down. People are screaming for higher mob density.
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>>123479656
You don't have a piss bottle?
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>>123479656
>Not having a mom taking care of this
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>>123479656
Please just warp back to town. They give you a warp stone for that kind of situation.
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>>123479732
fuck off
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It's super-rough but I drew a peltassta
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>>123476954
Why? Taking advantage of idiots is totally fine.
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>>123480263
Good job anon.
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>>123480263
Now draw her banging my shield.
>>
classes for handicapped people:

swords> highlander
wiz > pyro > linker > sorcerer
cleric>krivis>sadhu
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>>123478547
There is an armband ingame for participating in the first CBT that looks like garbage. For which first CBT I don't know but the normal ingame armbands look a lot better.
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>>123480263

What a slut
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>>123479737
>>123480020
Then you need to run back for a long ass time because there's no warp statue where you are. I'm not saying to lower mob density, I'm saying to make little areas where mobs won't aggro you. Every game has these. Like little corners that are too far away from where mobs generally spawn to get attacked.
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>>123480484
>wiz > pyro > linker > sorcerer
nice b8
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>>123479656
>impossible to find anywhere free of monsters
I'd like to go in your channel.
Just sit near an NPC.
>>
Farming for items without flywings, just feels wrong.
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>>123480715
Buy those Warp Scrolls that save your position at the Goddess Statues. You get like 20 for free, to boot.
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>>123480715
>I'm saying to make little areas where mobs won't aggro you.
Mobs won't approach NPCs. If there are any quests at all there, just sit near an NPC. Or near other people killing things.
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>>123480263
Well done.
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>>123481012
tfw no creamy card
>>
For Sorc/Necro should I get Hard Veris Boots (Lightning Attack +41) or Scale Boots (Int +47)?
>>
kCBT3; Nov 16th, 18th and 19th's patch notes have been translated.

Nov 16th: http://pastebin.com/K5BQ5TwW
Nov 18th: http://pastebin.com/6RP3PEDn
Nov 19th: http://pastebin.com/Du4CKdS2

I don't think any major pieces of information was missed.

Also, still no further updates from IMC other than their plans for future patches, which were:

1) Rank 7 will be added.
2) New areas will be added.

No dates given, they said they'll get back to us.

People in the KR Closed Tester forums speculate it may be next week cause it's December and OBT, but I doubt it since they'll announce OBT in advance most likely.

inb4 another iCBT2-like release in "October"
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>>123481056
That flat out isn't true
>>
>>123478381
I made it to C3 paladin a few days ago and stopped playing the character. Most of my damage comes from Priest C2 auto attacking. Enemies just walk through Barrier 90% of the time. Conviction lowers enemy resistances by 100 for 5 seconds, which gives spell casters in your group about 200-400 more damage per hit. With the nerf to the Barrier attribute, paladin C3 is worthless compared to the alternatives.
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>>123481301
It is true. If they approach NPCs, they get that debuff that makes them invincible and sometimes glitch out and stack up because they can't run away.
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>>123480263
I-I'm feeling strange
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>>123481292
>http://pastebin.com/K5BQ5TwW
>Character animations for when you log out has been added.
VIDEOS! VIDEOS!
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>>123460379
They were so good on RO.
What a shitty job they did on ToS, there isn't a single remarkable bgm.
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>>123481821
I said before that I'd get some webms of it, but I didn't see any log out animations when I checked which was strange.

I'll check again now.
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>Meme Pistol finally exists
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>>123475431
That's not me honey, just found that video on youtube
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>>123479656
>Park self near warp statue in dungeon
>Log out
>Log back in to find a shit-ton of mobs right on top of me
>Die because I was NOT prepared for that immediately

>See priest
>He's fucking moving around, not AFK, so he clearly sees me
>He doesn't revive me, so there go my gems

Yeah, fuck you too, literally everyone.

I quickly warped back to the area thinking maybe I can get those gems back in time only to see that very priest layed out by those same inexplicably-placed mobs.
Despite having priest in my own build, I didn't do shit. I'm never reviving anyone ever again, fuck all of you. You're all either assholes or afk farmers.
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What's the theoretically highest single target DPS in this game? Sadhu? Corsair?
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>>123482239
cpt kiroto
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>>123482239
How do you even build a Sadhu anyway? Cleric>Krivis>Cleric>Sadhu>Sadhu>Cleric?
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Just a heads up for anyone with kCBT access.

When you click 'Game Start' to boot the game up, they want you to install a completely new client it seems called 'Tree of Savior Test'.

I wonder if this will be the start of a test server and client which runs aside the official servers.
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>>123458858
What are you weapon gems?
>>
>>123482224
why didn't you revive for the low low price of icoin?
>>
Is kissing approved of by IMC?
>>
Just use an iCoin.
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>>123482145
>AoE ratio on archer classes
>1 movement speed

The crit rate and lightning is nice but those just seem random.
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>>123482239
Psychokino
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>>123482239
Genki Dama on Rank 7.
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>>123482239
Sadhu can literally do actual damage to things 20+ levels above him.
>>
This game is seriously out to troll me, finally got all the shit for petamion together now the recipe does not show up in the crafting list. Selling to a NPC and rebuying doesnt seem to work either
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>>123482654
You forget it's intended for SR, which has a lot of AoEs, plus they can move whilst shooting on a mount so the movement speed is okay, albeit it's just +1.

I think pistol shots also hit enemies in a line as well, but I'm not sure on that.
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>>123482870
put in market for 99999999 then get it.
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>>123482870
Put it on market for 1bi and cancel.
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>>123482936
>>123482991
That worked, thanks
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>>123482239

Assuming the target is not moving?

Hoplite > Corsair/Doppel and that build of Pyromancer that stacks fireballs on top of a target to deal huge damage.
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>everyone on my friends list has gotten R6 and started new characters
>havent even finished my first because of work
Who /suffering/ here
>>
>>123482239

cryopyrokino + thauma 2.

trap shit in a wall, pops 2 fireballs, icewall, pressure.

huge cooldowns thi
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>>123482386
One rank of sadhu will carry you through everything
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>>123483262
mind sharing your build?
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>>123481894
Your shit taste is showing if you haven't heard a handful of good ones.
>>
>>123483262
>Fade on skillbar

Question, if you're solo, does fading cause mobs/bosses to regen health since they no longer have a target?
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>>123483191
>level slow even before x2
>dick around with recipes and make stuff
>don't want to grind some levels
>I don't even work
casual life is hard 2bh
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>>123483489
Cleric>Krivis>Cleric>Sadhu>Cleric>Druid
Cleric 3 is probably overkill but I don't anything useful in more Krivis or Sadhu.

>>123483507
It does but Aukuras or pet can keep bosses busy.
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>>123484202
I promise you want Sadhu C2 for possession.
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forgot to sign up for beta in time, am i fucked?
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>>123483262
doesn't every boss around that level just die instantly, though...?
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>>123481240
49 INT, it's basically 49 matk and int benifits you and summons. Anon, why is that a hard choice?
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>>123484352

Yeap. So many skills used too, I killed that boss in half the time only using 1 skill.
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>>123484341
Yes.
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>>123484341
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what's the meme caster top? i never got rokas, still using crappy riena
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>>123484726
>never got the rokas
For what purpose?
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>>123484352
>>123484438

I never noticed anything. After I class changed to Sadhu, most bosses just died before my Safety Wall ran out. This was never the case with my Hoplite C2.
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>>123484202
>Aukuras
I think pet works too?
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>>123484837
the scorp hook either never dropped for me or i just managed to miss it lying on the ground somehow
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>>123484202
>Not going Sadhu 2

What
>>
>Krivis in the party isn't using Daino

This is the most important buff in the game when you're in a party. I really need to just goy up and buy those Daino scrolls.
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Upskirts of an oracle.
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>>123484940
There are TWO scorps, you couldn't have missed it.
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>>123484843

I have no idea how you built your hoplite, but almost every boss past 175 has no HP. The one on your webm literally dies in 4 seconds or less using either stabbing or cyclone.
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>>123484940
Scorpio Hook?
I magically have an extra, I can give it to you for free. Not sure if it's trade-able but worth a try. We can also do market transfer.
Gabija: I'm at klaipeda ch1 with a hungry text above my head.
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Am I a bad person?
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>>123485375
No, just lonely.

>>123485368
Forgot, near market & storage NPC.
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>>123485364

I was talking about those level 80-200 bosses. Shit just died in <30 sec. I think I saw a webm here of someone else raping a mage tower boss with Sadhu too.
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>>123485368
im on saule, thanks tho. dont think they are tradeable/sellable anyways, only the recipe is
>>
Please vote tosters.
Thank you.
Yes, I'm serious.
>>
>>123485775
OK, get a forest robe awakened. It's the new meme specially for mage.
>>
This game is so cute, I want to chuu chuu with anons all the time!
>>
Okay so roasted gems, anvils, awakenings, any other ways to upgrade an item? I think I'll be using this one for awhile.
Also does anyone have an Arde Dagger they're selling cheap? I lucked out with some swelled drops and can afford one, but I don't want to be totally broke
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>>123485165
>Krivis & Priest in party
>Both use their relevant shit

Feels good
>>
WTB toy hammer on gabija for 1.5m
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>>123484202
>Sadhu 2 is not useful

You have literal brain problems please seek help
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>>123486290
Are you on lamia
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>these retards looking for specific group compositions for a lvl 90 dungeon.
How long is it until the sheep only start allowing barbarians and linkers into party groups?
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does extracting gems do anything to the potential? I have a lv5 blue gem on my weapon that I want to take out before I sell it but it's at 1 potential right now so anything that lowers it would make me unable to sell it
>>
>>123486654
Nope, Gabija
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>>123486676
Yes it does
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>>123486676
It doesn't affect potential, but your game will lose 1 level so it's pointless unless monster gems.
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>>123486616
That guy is literally reddit, don't bother replying.
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I might be going insane, but is soloing demon prison 2 as a barbarian actually faster than relying on a party?
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>>123485190
What a slut.
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>>123486661
apparently a bunch of br community/facebook groups decided that linker and pyro are the most OP and they will demand those in every single party
this is coming from a br friend of mine which I kinda trust, but idk.
>>
>>123486661
I did a no healer run and a 4 archer run on 50 dungeon earlier, most fun I had in days.
>>
I don't think Possession can handle a horde of lizardmen or flying pumpkins
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>>123486661
how to spot a shitter party

>LF tank/linker X dungeon
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Reminder ToS BGM is garbage compared to RO's
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>>123486661
I don't even see the point in specifying linker if you're a pyrolinker you should be solo/duoing that dungeon

Linker is quite useful but peltasta is much much better if they built to tank. Problem is only a retarded group is letting your peltasta solo and not actually grouping with them.

If he has to solo he probably doesn't have enough con to properly tank.

Still stupid as fuck to look for specifics, 1 healer (not even needed half the time) and go.
>>
>>123487065
the difference between
>LF tank
and
>LF linker
is fucking enormous m8
>>
>>123487163
Yeah, linker makes it go faster while tanks are just dead weight 99% of the time
>>
>>123487065

Fortunately that shit stops happening after the 90 dungeon. You only need a cleric c1 and the run will be just fine, if you don't find one then it's okay too you will have to be more careful.
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>>123485714

"One rank of sadhu will carry you through everything" -> Sure, I will never argue this, it can deal some pretty great damage.

But "What's the theoretically highest single target DPS in this game?" (I am assuming this is following this question, as it is as far as the replies go back).

At Rank 6, it is taking you 6 skills and 11 seconds to deal as much damage as 1 Skill from other classes in 5 seconds.

Considering those classes still have a lot more skills to use after that, then your overall DPS isn't that impressive.
>>
Does Gabija or Laima have faggots who crash channels to manipulate world boss spawns?
>>
>>123487374
Zemyna does?
That's what you get for playing with /jp/
>>
>>123487374
Haven't heard of anyone doing it so far.
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>>123487418
The #1 on Zem does.
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>>123486661
>tfw you are pyrolinker and plays with clericpriest friend
>shitters keep inviting you to their specific party compositions
>deny every single one of them
>proceedes to invite the people they ignored to your party

delicious

>>123486983
I'm BR and can confirm, there's a group of players that only want specific classes for parties here.
AFAIK they play on Saule though, so I never met any of them.
>>
>>123487451
>>123487418
What do Gladiator Bands and Trinity Swords cost on your servers?
>>
>>123487658
Gabija here. Trinity sword and Gladiator bands sell for 5-6m-ish depending on the buyer/seller.
>>
>>123487658
millions
>>
why does nobody do the 200 dungeon? do the bosses not drop anything good?
>>
Can a higher level sorc help me out with some info?

What does the secondary card effect do, does the secondary card level matter, and why aren't certain cards equippable?
What other good cards are there besides temple shooter?
Can I un-summon a monster, or am I stuck with it unti I change areas/run out of SP?

Also what's the best way to invest skill points level wise, since it's a long haul from 127-177?

Any other information besides this that's relevant would be appreciated.
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>>123487736
Man both are like 8M - 10M here because no one can fight Cerb and Mineloader due to channel crash 90% of the time.

Primaluce is around 5M - 6M
>>
>>123487317
Linker here, Swashbuckling is godsend.

If your party has half a brain you can clear rooms way faster with a proper aoe setup and one swash
>>
Any alchemist here who can help me awaken an item?

>>123487845
Iron gate is bugged. I can finish it fine since I have mastered how to backspace + jump over it.
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>>123487845
Because the gate is buggy
>>123487896
this the ideal party has a linker AND a tank its a ridiculously good combo.
>>
>>123487845
Gate to the boss doesn't open. When I did it we had a sorc summon their minion on the other side then mount. He pulled the boss outside for us.
>>
>>123486947
If you can kill fast and have tons of potions, of course it's fast.
>>
>>123487340

anon does have a point. videos are nice and all, but gotta consider amount of resources used too.
>>
>>123487861
Secondary cards only matter for morph
Un-summon by right-clicking its icon in the buff bar
TS is BiS right now, but I think Chappariton is second
You can only use Demon/Devil cards
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9alPRkP5u7Q

This is why I love Owl Burial maps.
>>
>>123481292
>The phenomenon where monsters summoned by the blue orb became enemies has been fixed.
aww
>>
>>123488886
Not that anon but what makes Chappariton so good? I know what makes TS good. Any other cards that might have some nice utility I should keep around? I'll be hitting Sorc relatively soon so I want to be prepared.
I can't wait to actually do damage.
>>
>>123488970
Yeah, that's my favorite song in the game. Sounds inspired by the Silent Hill soundtrack.
>>
>>123488970
like literally only 1 not shit BGM in ToS, even then it's not that good.

i thought ToS was supposed to be the spiritual successor of RO??
>>
>>123489130
Oh hey, you're the guy who made the terrible art! I'm quite happy I gave you the key. I hope you're enjoying the game.
>>
>>123488970
>Sakmoli.flac
it hurts
>>
>>123489130
I tried out the various cards I have before I feed them to my temple, chapparition has a nice aoe range. Specter Monarch seemed like it would have potential if the aoe on its attack was as wide as it actually looked.

Minotaur is trash, Netherbovine is trash, Harpeia was bad, Mummyghast was bad, Throneweaver sucked, Cyclops was bad, Necroventer was lame, Unknocker was the shittiest of the lot.

>>123488886
So I shouldn't bother putting anything into the second slot then?
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literally naruto
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>>123489634
>naruto invented ninjas
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>>123489302
I am, yes. Thanks a lot anon I really am. Super excited for full release. I recently met your waifu in Mage's Tower.

>>123489550
>Unknocker was the shittiest of the lot
Man, I was looking forward to having a giant treasure chest follow me around for awhile. Chapparition it is I guess. Do any of them have any neat utility spells or is it all just hit guy, hit guy in aoe, hit guy in x way? If one has a strong shield or a teleport or something I might pick up Morph.
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>>123489670
The shitty ones, yes.
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>>123489634
WTB> Steelys 7M
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>>123489740
I only just hit summoner so I can't give you the information you ask. They all them just followed around directly when summoned normally.
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I am finally a Squire!
How do I close my shop without having to go into character selection? I can't find a button.
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>>123489891
are you like 15?

you know ninjas with magic spells existed since forever?
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>>123489550
Put the same card on your second slot.
It might be a bug but hey, you can use your highest level card on the second slot for now.
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>>123490108
Who said anything about magic...?
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>>123489996
there should be a Tab at top like "History" , that shows who did stuff in shop.
that bugs sometimes. changing channels or close game with taskmanager can fix that
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>>123490214
so they are naruto just because it's the only thing with ninjas in them that you know? cool to know
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>When you make everyone at the world boss crash
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>>123489634
So I'll be honest
I know literally nothing about proper ninja lore
This looks EXACTLY like naruto shit
Is it in any way related to non-naruto ninjas, obviously beyond the kunai and wooden block skills
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>>123489996
Looks like yours is bugged out ATM, but normally you just go to record and hit close
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>>123490138
Can you expand on the reasoning for that? As stated I only just hit summoner so I'm lacking knowledge about mechanics.
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>>123490283
I never made that claim. You're quoting the wrong guy.
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>>123490219
>>123490324
Thanks!
I tried going to character selection and back; my shop was still there along with a "Record" tab. Oh, and I can also see how many repair tools I have so I can handle that with this workaround.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8xoTBZrzko

>Not being really cool
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>>123468903
>(reduces maximum HP
But by how much?
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>>123490448
why are you even randomly answering then?

the guy is obviously a clueless retard that thinks naruto invented ninjas making copies and throwing fireballs
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>>123489670

Naruto has real ninjas. The ones who dress in black and shit are cowards. Naruto fights like a man and has cool moves.
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Should I grind on 122 or pop all cards and wait for demon prison on 141?
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>>123486290
HoneyBingo is so cute!
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>>123490576
4 STR each time, 10 with aghs
So that's 76 and with aghs it's 190
I'm sorry.
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>>123490597
naruto watcher detected
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>>123490319
Ninja lore is mostly born from assassins who were so good at what they did they convinced random grunts that they had magic powers. "Shit we couldn't catch him because it was like he could bodyswap with stuff or make clones!"

The so-called ninja probably found it beneficial to perpetuate this myth, so they probably spread rumors and stuff about secret clans that trained in jutsus and stuff. It became such a rich and fascinating mythos that you can't NOT have them included in most fantasy settings.

I'd say it's comparable to the Camelot stories, and how a lot of old knight fantasy stuff is based on that.


Now we consider more class-based RPGs, we get elements from both.
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>>123490886
Naruto is really popular in Latin America.
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>>123490886
are you retarded?
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>>123490629
if you have any lvl 6 and below cards, use them until 130 when you can dungeon.
save lvl7 & 8 though
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>>123489740
>is it all just hit guy, hit guy in aoe, hit guy in x way?
Only this. They are pretty much bosses, with the boss offensive skill set.
What makes TS BiS is because his auto-attack hits twice, while all others hit only once PLUS his skills set is full of hard-hitting AoE

>So I shouldn't bother putting anything into the second slot then?
Just put the same card you put in the first slot, so you always know it's stats
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So what's the current list of ways Bokors are getting absolutely shat on?

1) Effigy doesn't work.
2) Even if it did work, it's costly as fuck.
3) Because it's buggy, Tet Mamak La is effectively the best dps for bosses. If you can get it to work. Not everyone can. There's no way in hell they're going to let us keep it, though.
4) What's that, you wanted to HEAL your zombies? AHAHAHAHA!!
5) They'll still make a mad rush for you heal tiles, anyway.
6) Cure spell... oh gawd...
7) SPR is supposed to extend the lifespan of your zombies. Instead, it fucking reduces it.
8) Latest update completely ruined Bwa Kayiman.
9) Bwa Kayiman was already garbage against single targets when it doesn't have to be.
10) Bwa Kayiman was just straight up useless against bosses.
11) Speaking of bosses, far to many just wave their hand and your horde is fucking gone, so using them to simply gang up on a boss like you're "supposed to" isn't even a thing.
12) Samediveve could do fucking anything to increase the staying power of zombies. Instead, it increases maximum HP.
13) Ogouveve is fucking worthless and inexplicably INT-dependant, rather than SPR. It'd still be worthless if that was changed.
14) Oh yeah, not having having an INT build is just plain suffering in the Cleric line, so there's that.
15) Holy shit, those attribute prices
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>>123489634
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>>123490312
Plz teach how.

I'd play just to do that.
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>>123491282
>Wait for Blessing
>Concentrate
>Cartar Stroke
>????
>CRASH
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>>123490341
Because Morph skill exists.
Right now you can put the same card on the second slot, meaning you won't need to level up two cards.
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>>123491243
W A K E M E U P
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>>123490662
Thank you anon.

>>123491050
Well that's lame. I'm sure it will be fun in practice but I was hoping Morph would give a lot of utility, swapping summons between full offensive and another specialization. Oh well.
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>>123491243
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p6VrkUVCYE
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>>123476058
I can see it now:
"Change your eye color with cash shop."
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>>123491471
What does that actually do though? It says it morphs the summon into what's in slot 2 while keeping the effect, but that's kind of vague.

Also do you happen to have any answers to the 'what order to invest skill points' question?
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>Item awakening dungeon has it's own mobs and bosses and will add points to the adventure journal.
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>>123489634
>0 CD
>0 CD
>0 CD
Other Class Branches are gonna have classes that have skills on par with stuff like that right?
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>>123492402
They probably have some sort of limiter, like an energy system or something. That or they're going the Maplestory route and all the sasukes will be top tier.
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>>123492402
it's placeholder
kunai has 4 overheat so it obviously has a cooldown
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>>123491083
Bokor is actually the best class in the game for the only content you want to be extremely efficient at (Demon Prison 2 grind)
So I feel like they're fine.
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>>123491691
>http://blog.treeofsavior.com/en/?p=270
>We already have a feature to change eye colors or hair colors of characters in the game. But instead of making them possible when selecting a character, we want players to obtain them in the game.

Let's just hope they don't go back on their word and really do make eye colors cash shop only.
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>>123492402
All rank7 skills only have names and icons, some not even the icons. Everything else on the database is a placeholder
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>>123492402
In the trailer you can see katon no jutsu has a 6-7s cd.

Only 0s cd skill i remember from that trailer was that dark fire pillar from warlock but i suppose it will have a drawback if true.
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>>123491651
To be super honest with you, almost all Sorcerer skills are kinda lame.

Don't get me wrong, I'm having heaps of fun and I like Sorc but it is quite a lame class.
Your only real focus is the summon skill, and templeshooter is SO FUCKING STRONG that is usually overlooked.

I usually end up only using summoning and running around, even though I have the other skills.
Cat is buff then disappear, Fire Salami is single target and has short duration to even be helpful, if the map has no dungeorous ranged mobs I never use attack ground, after the spawn camp at demon prison I never use Hold anymore, Bats are nice and fun but not really reliable unless for boss bursting or funsies and I don't even have morph.
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>>123491707
Morph fully heals your summon, changes to the second monster. Meta will change in the future when more summons are fixed and actually do their thing.

In this order I went
1 summoning devil
1 riding
2 summon servant (for sp regen)
1 summon salamion
3 more on servant (preference, some only get 2)
1 hold
5 familiar
1 morph

I'll skip attack ground because it's "attack here then go back"
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>>123492775
I don't mind if they do that. I'd just end up buying a different eye colour immediately. Same with hairstyles and costumes if they're in there
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hunters are pretty neat. attack dog is a decent skill for an archer, relatively low sp cost, aoe, and the pet does it on its own fairly often. the c3 skill looks overpowered, and the c2 skill that drags targets to you looks like it would be pretty strong in pvp (it drags them slowly, so you can just keep kiting maybe?)
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>>123493068

There was a c3 hunter autist spamming the thread yesterday. The long and short of what he said was that it's strong at low levels but will scale like shit.
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>>123492870
Really I just need damage at this point anyway. Swell body gives me enough fun making everything explode into treats, but it's a real gamble if I can kill them in time since my only attack skills are still rank 2. So I guess Sorc will be fine for that. Since I'm a thaum I'll probably go servants over other things anyway, which seem fun as little suicide bombers.
I do hope they nerf TS though, I remember everyone talking about all the possibilities with Sorc before we had much info, and now it's just TS or bust.
Really it's just a place holder until I can get Necro. Skeletons are cool
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>>123492878
Do you think it's not worth it to upgrade the base Summoning?
Also at least right now you can take 3 in Servant, buy the trait that makes your cat buff faster, and then respec back to 2 in Servant. Lv3 only gets you the Stamina Regen which is honestly pretty worthless unless you have a Monk and will only fill up another buff slot knocking more important shit off. You'll keep your trait even if you go back to Lv2.
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>>123493164
the c3 skill? i cant see how the c3 skill wont be useful forever, its the most powerful CC in the game.

I wonder if the canoneer class will have some long cooldown super strong aoe? That would combo nicely i think, just bunch mobs up around your pet untill they areall there feared then blast em
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>>123493597
>Do you think it's not worth it to upgrade the base Summoning?
It is worth it. Even if card level is a larger individual upgrade, the higher levels in Summoning give more attack per Int, which becomes a lot easier to notice at higher Int values.

Even just look at the difference between level 1 and level 5 in the gains it gets from the awakened Scale Boots (49 Int)
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How did the top person on Gabija get so many damn points?
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>>123493597
Not him but, there are people who don't like it because it's a small increase at that point (40% of your total INT) so they let it at level 1.

I persoanlly maxed because there was nothing else to spend points on (and it's an investiment for when I get more INT), since I don't use morph, hold or summon salami
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>>123493923
I heard they don't have a poop sock. I heard they're so advanced they use a christmas stocking.
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>>123493923
>>123491850
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>>123494092
I swear that's fucking cheating.
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Now that I've finally figured out how to do this, how do I make money?
Anyone want to pay unreasonably high amounts of silver for waifu images in your items?
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>>123494176
>caring about points

its confirmed the adventure journal is for casuals to collect things and not for hardcore grindan.
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>>123493923
Is there even a point in being on the top 10?
It's not like they get a special reward or some shit
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>tfw you spot some cute anon from /tosg/ ingame
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>>123494263
Autism collecting isn't considered hardcore?
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>>123493597
I kept mine at 5, although annoying, I can have access to 50 mdef and 50 dark attack. Got used to managing my buff slot since you will turn on/off summon very often.

You can choose to max it, and don't take summon familiar. I prefer having bats around because it's cute. Tested it on pvp and the pyrokino said he couldn't target me because of the bats.
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>>123494328
We're always hanging around Fedimian after dungeon runs and boss huntings.
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>>123494260
i'm just gonna post how to do it everywhere if you're gonna keep trying to profit off it
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>>123494413
You're a good anon, anon
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>>123494336
No, because it involves going around and doing different things. It breaks up the monotony and gives you downtime to do things like eat or poop. Hardcore requires you to do the same exact thing over and over and over until you die of dehydration in a korean internet cafe
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>>123494556
Lame, I like filling out my catalog. It's like a treasure hunt.
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>>123494260
>>123494413
I just wanted a cute shield description.
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>Hunter Job Change Quest
>Go to Miners Village and fight a Vubbe Fighter
>No go kill two Glizardons in Tenet Chapel
>Now go back to Miner's Village and collect 3 rocks while dodging/killing 8 monsters 10 levels above you.
>Nice, go talk to the Quarrel Shooter Master
>Good, now go to the Ranger Master
>"So the books are all gathered, well done. As I promised to you I will permit you to become a Hunter."

>Thaumaturge Job Change Quest
>Hey can you go one map away and collect 3 pieces of paper? Thanks qt.

IMC please.
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>>123494413
You're making it sound like this isn't the first time I've posted about this.
Fine, I'll just keep the cuties to myself then.
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>>123494708
>barbarian job quest
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>>123493923
How many points do they have?

Top on Zem has 49k
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anyone know the command for the hairstyle window? i would like to preview different hairstyles on my hats
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>>123494708
>cryomancer job change quest
>go steal some shit from pyromancer master
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>>123494778
I didn't care before but when you start trying to exploit retards it's way more likely to get fixed.
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>>123494708
Hey man, those papers were hidden behind rocks. It took me like 3 whole minutes.

>>123494990
This anon is correct, though.
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Thanksgiving dinner is finally over, now I can go back to sucking demon dick instead of avoiding the question of what I've been doing all year

/blog
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>>123494708
>diev advance quest
>can you clean the 2 goddess statues for me I'm too old
>ask that guy for the oil
>he doesn't have it
>nor does the other one
>nor does that other other one
>no one has it
>creepy bokor master has the lotion
>okay thanks you can diev
wut
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>>123494708
I still don't know what the hell I was actually expected to do with the Bokor 2 quest.

She said something about cards, and the quest auto-completed itself.

Did I... simply need to have a boss card of any kind on hand?
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>>123490319
All of the names and shit are literally "generic jap word" technique
Bunshin no justu = Clone Technique
or Art of Clone

The Katon one I believe is actually a direct relation to naruto though the 'Great Fireball Technique' which would be different but it's also called Katon: blah blah
Katon which i believe is chinese for Fire Release, I'm not sure
Mokuton no jutsu is literally something like Wood Evasion Technique

It's all pretty childish seeming stuff but most of it dates back wellllllllllllllllllll before naruto.
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>>123487374
....how exactly are they crashing channels intentionally?
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Just saw a monk using double punch and seems shit compared to memeset+sacra AA. Why people say it's better/faster than memeset/kiritosair? Hell, why people say it's better than pala 2 or even priest 3?
Or he was doing something wrong? I thought it would be way stronger, at least it seemed on youtube.
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>>123494990
Cryomancer's last advancement quest was disappointing.
>Yeah, please go kill some scorpions and varvs in Royal Maus's first floor. Thanks
That's all there was to it, and the drops were basically guaranteed. At least Sorcerer and Necromancer had good quests
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>>123494708
>Thaumaturge job change quest
>Hey can you go one map away and collect 3 pieces of paper? Thanks qt
>Nothing in the area where she told me to collect them
>Remember those odds pieces of paper in the map
>Try to interact with them
>Nothing happens
>Relog
>Still nothing
>Cancels quest
>Go back to Thaumaturge master
>Hey can you go one map away and collect 3 pieces of paper? Thanks qt.
>Pieces of paper are there now
>Collect them
>Finally done with this shit
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>>123494260
I'll just post how to do it if you're going to profit off of it cause I hate you.
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>>123494903
Only 37k on Gabija, I don't have access to a pocket alchemist to cheese it.
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>>123494708
>Dievderby2 quest
>hey i need a cat to model for a statue, can you grab a stray one from klaipeda or something?
>5 minutes later you're on a quest to find the misc item merchant's missing father
Probably the saddest quest I've done in the game so far.
How do you tell a cutie her father died to a weak ass boss monster?
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>>123495530
Nah, everything thing there is generic ninja shit.
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>going back through every zone and stabbing mobs for 50k+ for #1 damage

#justlevel200things :^)
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>>123494708
>Monk2 test
>yo go kill this giant cow to prove you're gud
>it's two maps away from any statue
>when you get there it's the farthest point away from the entrance of the map

IT'S ACTUALLY A PILGRIMAGE

DEEPEST LORE
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>>123495737
It definitely is, but I haven't read anything in moonrunes lately enough to remember if they use katon no jutsu or gokakyu no jutsu when referencing that one
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>>123494708
DO YOU WANT THE CUTE COSTUME OR NOT?
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>>123495720
>you talk to a soldier
>I don't wanna tell her, you do it
>you walk up to her
>she only says a few words
>someone just broke in front of you
>the diev life is truly a life of suffering, says IMC
b-but why ;_;
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>>123495720
That one in the zone where a turtle falls from the sky was both hilarious and heart break, more so if you talk to the guy's friend afterwards.
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>>123494903
47kish.
He's lv 185 though.
Also he doesn't crash the channel and makes sure everyone got a box from the boss.
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>>123495016
>>123495675
What are you retards on about? I only started looking into this shit four hours ago, before that I didn't even know how to make colored text.
You got the wrong guy!
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>>123495869
I remember TO using Katon and stuff.
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>>123495568
If you're on Zem I am sure you've noticed the bokor that follows him around.
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>>123495869
what, the fireball/fire breath is one of the most generic ninja spells ever
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>>123494903
>>123495719
at Gabi
1 46.9k
2 40.3k
3 38.2k
4+5 37k
6+7 35k
8to10 34-30k

kinda big difference at Top
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>>123494990
>>123495659
The worst part isn't that it's mundane, it's that it makes no sense.

>hey nigga you know that secret mausoleum our archaeologists have been trying to find for centuries to no avail?
>go kill this and that in there, I know you've found the entrance AND exactly which kind of monsters live there because I have psychic powers I guess???
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What else do you think I should get? Coursing is bugged, thus I am using Retrieve instead, which does the same and is actually better.
I was thinking of having 1 point in Hounding, and the rest into Fetching. Pointing is pretty garbage, but I might have use for it since Growling doesn't work on dungeon bosses.

10 points into decreasing enemy accuracy, or 10 points into dragging flying enemies to the ground?
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>>123495953
Top dude on Zem is a BR with a group of dicksuckers that made classes he needed items from to boost him up.

He also crashes boss channels.

Its really aggravating.

>>123496106
49k
42k
42k
41k
36k
35k
35k
35k
35k
34k

Notice the gap.
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>>123495568
Bokor's bugs are so bad and numerous, they can do that if they're spiteful enough.

This could all be avoided if they fucking bothered to fix the class's many many bugs, but hey, let's just piss off people who chose that job class while letting them continue to have a method that ruins everyone else's fun.
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>>123494647
its ok to be casual
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>>123496120
Really big plotholes indeed, like any MMO.

It's no excuse though.
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>>123496224
BRs ruin the game.
What a surprise.
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>>123496106
Fucking dick sucking alchemist dungeon using cunts.
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>>123496456
>BR organize a solid party and conquer the server
What a surprise.
>>
Crit rate or Crit attack as rogue C1?
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>>123496457
Wait how does alchemist dungeon boost their score?
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>>123496223
The attribute on snatching leans me to say that over pointing
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>>123496783
>>123491850
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>>123496783
see >>123491850, I'm alone so I can't even compete with that.
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>>123496883
>>123496875
Oh wow
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>>123495640
no it really isn't that great. I don't think anyone said it was better than Kirito-sair though either. People just go Monk because they wanted to punch things.
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>>123496761
I think with Sneak Attack you'd probably want more Crit attack but I'm not a Rogue
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>>123495640
unlike autoattack builds the damage actually scales
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>>123496457
>>123496783
>>123496883
WTS Alchemist Dungeon Runs :^)
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>>123497054
But doesn't mean more crit rate = more points into str which gives crit attack?
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>>123497112
How much?
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>>123497112
If achieving top 10 or even 100 affected your ability to get secret classes expect this to happen
Obviously it won't because IMC isn't retarded.
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>>123497187
>IMC isn't retarded.
hmmm
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>>123497187
>IMC isn't retarded
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>Damage interval for Out of Body gets increased to match Bwa Kayiman's

How hard will you laugh when it happens?
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>>123496761
>C1 Rogue

Means literally nothing. C2 you go full strength and use crit rate gems.
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>>123497270
>>123497286
I WANT TO BELIEVE
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>>123497187
>IMC isn't retarded.
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>>123494263
>>123494336
>>123494556
Get the camera Mom! I killed another 10000 demons today! I don't get how grinding is considered hardcore it takes no skill you are killing programmed creeps that barely even fight back. Kill 1000 people your level in PVP is hardcore.
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>>123497187
AHAHAHAHAHA!!
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>>123497151
500k each at gabi ?
different mobs/bosses in it. so you prolly want a few
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>>123497270
Well I wouldn't say IMC isn't retarded, but they're slightly above other MMO devs, slightly.

Balance is trash
Class /Near game breaking bugs in for almost a week in most cases
Gem/Market bullshit
Potential balancing
Their way to balance money costs for usefulness of squire/etc later is to MANUALLY raise prices

They're trying though.... right?

Literally found 3-4 typo bugs that no one has discovered yet I haven't reported because I want to see if I can abuse but don't want to make that class
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>>123497451
Too poor, hook nose. Thanks for the offer though.
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>>123491850
The adventure journal is fully automated, it's literally just an in-game database. Which means it's full of random shit.
I got points for killing a bugged out enemy SPAWNER that isn't supposed to be targetable.
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>>123497451
300k is standard on jtos
250k seems to be standard on laima (one cunt did a bunch of stuff for cheap to so prices are lowered like hell before they found the jtos link to just make good stuff)
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>>123497307
I was talking about sneak attack. I can I do what you said with C1 as well?
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>not knowing cool alchemist bros that you help out whenever you can and awaken stuff for you for free in return
?
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>>123496012
>>123496289
I am a Bokor, how exactly is he doing it? Even when I made about 100 Zombies, it never crashed the channel.
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>>123497802
at least kiss them
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>>123497631
oh, let me rephrase that..
>>123497112
WTS Alchemist Dungeon Runs for Journal Points, my Items :^)
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Are awakenings random or do different pieces of equipment have specific awakens they always get?
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>>123497826
That's a good idea. I'll give them a kiss next time.
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>>123497893
Check the OP, there is a list.
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>>123497697
Sneak Hit only works when attacking from behind.

If that doesn't answer your question then I suggest you think about it some more.
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>Backstab
>you can stab people in the face with it
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>>123497926
Oh, thanks
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>>123497420
Cause it takes extreme willpower
pvp just takes minmaxing autism
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>>123497187
THIS! I fucking hated the whole Taekwon Master thing from RO I had to try it on some deserted shitty private server because I was not autistic enough to grind millions of points.
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>>123497889
I would do it for 300k, 500k is just too high.
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>>123497817
I seriously hope no one is stupid enough to answer you, lest a thousand retards from this fucking general start doing it
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Comfy Cryo butt! Please don't sexualize, Cryo is for head pat, comfy hugs and tender loving.
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>>123497802
well
- it take time
- is boring as crap
- has a cooldown (if they use it for u. they can make less run for themselves)
- its boring as fuck

really.. ppl ask me like once a hour to do item for them. shit is just so boring.
i cant see that silly "dungeon" anymore. not gonna do it for free for strangers. i dont want cash anymore
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>>123496120

You know the NPCs actually keep up with the on-goings in the world right? Like how some remark at you being the one to clear Tenet Chapel and Mage Tower.
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>>123497974
Are you rusing me anon? ;_;
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>>123498147
Please don't do that
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>>123497187
>>123497187
>IMC isn't retarded.
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>>123459046
>Riding skills
Well shit. Maybe I shouldn't have fed all those cards to temple shooter before I got riding. I only have chapparition, unknocker, specter monarch and harpeia left besides temple shooter.
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>>123494708
>Fletcher C2 Quest
>Hey man i need some flaming rocks
>Go kill this weak little tree boss
>After getting the flaming rock
>Hey man you're the best now you can make flaming arrows and firecracker arrows

For all the shit Fletchers have to suffer through, the quest only took 2 mins and was easy as shit
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>>123494260
I'm trying to sell memewings and waifumace currently on the market. The problem is that you can't link memecrafted items in the chat so there's no way to promote your business.
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>>123498227
Yes, but most of the time they just know "some Revelator beat some demons at x place"
Even if we assume the Cryomancer Master heard of the Mausoleum being found, for him to suddenly know exactly which monsters there are inside and exactly what they drop, AND send what to him is just another random Revelator between thousands there for an errand is pretty ridiculous.

And even if we accept all that, how the fuck can he say these drops are required to craft his shitty whatever ritualistic bullshit? How the FUCK did he craft that before you found the Mausoleum then?
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>>123498404
None of the other cards in this game come close to Templeshooter's Riding skills, so it's okay. Nuale doesn't even have Riding skills, she bugs your camera when you ride her and you can only use her auto attack while she's summoned at 15% of a bar and has the same bugged value of 1k HP as Rithiris does.

Based off the fight with her, she would probably be a good card if they ever fix her
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>>123495102
subscribed
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>>123497889
Yeah, if it's 300k for actual beneficial items, I wouldn't pay 500k for journal points and no item.

I don't think anyone would, maybe 100k at most.
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>>123498271
Read the goddamn tooltip on sneak hit. Being C1 rogue doesnt mean jack shit. You go full STR because Backstab has crit chance built into it. What other class are you? Ranger? Sapper? Do you attack from behind with the abilities from either of those classes? Are you archer 2 with the swift step crit attribute?
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Alchemist prices are bullshit

Only Purple and Red items take a lot of time.
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>>123498834
Alchemists are selling their potions for cheaper than the NPC potions go for, despite being more effective
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>>123498881
not on my server.

Its also very cheap to make alchemist potions.
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>>123498834
If people literally take a circle out of their build to play a class that is useless in content they sure as hell better be making a good buck out of it. The class will die though thanks to goody goodies doing awakening for free and selling pots at 0 profit I'm sure.
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>>123498881
they cost like nothing to make though, just time, they're making atleast 1000% profit just by afking
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>>123498967
they deserve it

(not an alchemist btw)
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>>123498946
>Its also very cheap to make alchemist potions
and it takes hours to make many. you want many right ? each anon wants many. can not even log to other char while making pots. you also 'pay' for there IRL time spend.
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>>123499117
Its not hard

Source I'm an alchemist and I make loads of money.
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>>123499051
why?
wizard c6 isn't even great, you can get more summons or slightly more dps which you don't need since templeshooters solo's the entire game, or you can get literally free money forever
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>>123499051
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>>123499207
If you're willing to pay price P for alchemist potions in a free, competitive, unregulated market with no informational asymmetry, then that alchemist potion is worth at least price P to you; otherwise you would not have bought it. The profit that the alchemist makes is irrelevant, you are essentially by definition getting a "good deal" in the sense that the alchemist potion is worth more to you than the amount of money you paid for it -- otherwise you would not have carried out the transaction in the first place.
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>>123498881
they will eventually cost only slightly more than cost once competition kicks in. get rekt alchejews
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>>123494708
>pyro change quest
>hey kid, get this pot and leave it close ot monsters
>come back when the pot is full
>you can use it anywhere btw
>go to map with tons of panto archers
>put pot down
>sit
>alt tab
>come back
>quest completed

Sure we are fire masters, but our quest is CHILL
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>>123499117
>but afk craft
each DC/channelcrash/gamecrash/dicError/etc cancel the whole craft process


>1min until 1hour craft done
>crash or dc
>to bad for u. a hour wasted

game is unstable as fuck. maybe if they fix all that crap... maybe
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>>123499392
I've never crashed making potions. Kalipedia has like 20 channels.

Maybe your shit sucks?
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>>123499392
i just afk dug all night to get shovel king title (two nights in a row because thats how long it takes holy fuck what were they thinking?)
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>>123499351
>le jew speak
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>>123498798
Ranger C3

I thought I could turn over mobs with feint.
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>>123499493
I'm right and you know it.
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>>123499351
Typical jew.

I don't care what its' worth to me, I don't use them cause I don't want to make you jews even richer, making infinite profit by simply levelling a dummy character to c6 on a 2nd computer/VM or whatever is just dumb, if people want this shit they should have to farm mats to give to the alch or something, having an infinite supply of something to sell for massive profit is stupid.

Also reminder to all psychokino's to smash other people into alchjews to ruin their potion crafting.
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>>123499481
>what were they thinking?

That the game last longer than two days.
>hurr why can't I get a title in an mmo in less than 1 hour
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>>123499674
But I'm an Oracle, my friend, not an Alchemist.
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>>123498147

delete this pic. call a mod, i don't care. do something to remove this perversity
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>>123499789
i was botting it though.

to get that title in actual play time it would probably take a week of constant digging since its not like you can dig every time it comes off cooldown in normal gameplay
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>>123499884
Last I checked there are people who play MMO for years.

I don't see the problem
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>>123499798
>But I'm a slut, my friend, not a jew.

Oh okay.
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>>123498195
It's a really, really poorly put together feature. Maybe if you could open the portal for other parties and didn't have to do that shit yourself it would be tolerable... but as it exists, no one would ever want to do the dungeon voluntarily. It's kind of a shame because on paper, it sounds kind of fun.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/bot-user-report-another--/121590
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>>123499884
maybe they want people to bot it

who /trickster/ here
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/please-remove-the-time-when-learning-attributes/121501
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>>123499935
The problem is holding that shovel gimps you, so you really want to get the achievement before level 75

Maybe if you actually dug things up that were for more than selling for 1 silver it would be different.
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>>123498635
Well it was more I wanted to experiment with shit, and a bunch of the boss cards are one time only (and it would've been nice to at least see the actual skills instead of the terrible auto's I was basing my opinions off of).

>>123499117
I'm fairly confident that there's a dupe glitch or something already, as there were some private sellers selling like 7x1000 lots of level 5 concentratedhp/sp potions for 500 a pop.
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>>123500089
I do think the time waiting is pretty dumb, a queue would be nice at the very least.
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>>123494260

I've only been able to sell one item like this for a hiked price, but it added about 120k to the total, and the dude kept asking if I can make more.
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>>123500089
If they dont want to remove it altogether, just make it so you can access the attribute list from a menu, or pay more to shorten/remove the time. As is hes right, going back every 12-1 hr for another level is just shitty.
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>>123497187
>IMC isn't retarded
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>>123499997
>tfw those drilling events
>mfw I'm a Fox
too bad Trickster Online was so p2w or else I would've had more fun
>>
>>123497187
It's not even that hard to make it to the top 100. Hell who here isnt even in the top 100?
>>
How fun is the Int Cleric path anyway? I'm burnt out with Swordsman/Archer and Pyro/Cryo aren't doing it for me.
>>
You tried to pick the flower but...!
>>
>>123499960
well party members can join it. but the alchemist still needs to have the item (=potentials gone) and will automatically enter it

its pretty easy too. dont need anyone to help in there
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>>123500470
if you go Krivis into Sadhu, you will literally melt bosses, moreso than any other class in the game.
>>
Wait, so if you can bind lua functions to hotkeys, is that how people are accessing features not from their class and doing broken stuff like teleporting/increasing range?
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>>123500469
>rank 675
Im trying...
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>>123495640
Good luck auto atacking lvl 200 regular mobs with 30k hp with your epic sacrament/blessing cafrisun combo from lvl 40 that doesn't scale ever.
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>>123500676
no those people are straight up cheating with programs I think
>>
How exactly does the Pardoner's Oblation skill work (offering box)?

What do we get for giving items for it? And what do they get in exchange? Is it worth using?
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>>123500676
nope
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>>123500509
got a 20s bleeding, died, lost everything and didn't picked the flower because it's has a 5% rate and 30s spawn of 4 flowers in the entire map.
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>>123500754
the Oblation box turns you into an NPC store. People can sell items to you, you pay them but they sell it for less than it's normally worth to an NPC so you technically profit.
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All this talk about Alchemist and awakening but I still can't find someone doing awakening services in Laima. If 250k/piece is the standard then I have no choice.

B-but if you can lower it, since it's a beta.
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Enrolling in Demon Prison as of right now. 76 Lv6 EXP cards unused. Didn't quest for any lvl 7 or 8 yet either.
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>>123500848

Oh, ok. So it only serves the purpose of ease of access to selling items instead of going to town to do it.

I was expecting it to give me a small buff or heal or something, you know, in exchange for offering.

Thanks!
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>IMC still didn't fix the bug about bosses spawning at level 1
>>
>waaaaa this guy leveled a crafting class and is making money out of it
>waaaaa they're playing their main while their second computer is afk crafting pots
>waaaaa I want to be kiritosair and be rich and keep getting shit with no effort
>waaaaa mommy make alchemists farm for their potions so I have to pay even more for them

You guys are the worst.
>>
>Want to do a fun build as beta comes to an end
>Decide to make a melee battle wizard
>Enchant Fire, Thaum and Chrono Buffs
>Equip sword
>Still attacks with magic bolt anyway

JUST
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>>123501132
stab with a dagger :^)
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>>123501131
Found the alchjew

stay mad people don't actually want to be your friend and just want your potions
>>
Anyone got mithril ore in laima? These prices are fucked
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>>123501132
Either dual wield a one-handed weapon with dagger or get a staff and use the secondary attack.

Staves have shitty physical damage, though.
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>>123500243
>>123500089
>>123500332
A queue list or being able to do it from anywhere would fix the problem entirely, ya. Personally I'd prefer a queue. Since attributes are obviously a gold sink to reduce inflation they could even make you pay to add slots to your queue.
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>Make a Cryo with the intention of going Elementalist at C4
>Get to mine since Monday
>Have no urge to pick it up again

Oh boy
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>>123500982
I can ask a friend when they get on if they're willing to help you out. No idea what they charge, though. They've offered it me for free. I'll post in the thread later when they're online and get you to meet them ingame so I can avoid namedropping them
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>>123500404
Trickster private server still kicking. With cash shop and everything.
I was a lion. Guns were too fun.
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/archer3-wugushi2-fletcher-feedback/121798

>Another guy who went SPR early on
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How much gem exp does a monster gem give? Or rather, how much exp does it take for a level 5 gem?
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>>123501383
Not him but that would be very nice.
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>>123501383
Thanks, I'll make sure to be around.
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>>123501503
you don't even need to go SPR with Lvl 5 SP Potions selling for 400 silver
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>>123501364
Both would be ideal, specially for people who have masters in fuck knows where, having to go back there multiple times is just a massive pain
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What's a good macro/script program/manager so I don't have to manually hold my z button when a bugged boss pops up?
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>>123501716
Agreed, I don't want the time to be removed, or even reduced. I just want to be able to do things while it ticks away, or not need to interrupt what I'm doing to refresh the timer constantly.
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>>123501743
a coin
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>>123501743
autohotkey
>>
All this talk about alchemists makes me want to go that route when I hit rank 6. Probably not because skeletons are cool but maybe.
Why do they charge so much for awakenings? I know supply and demand, but are the dungeons tedious/long or does it cost them something? I just know it has a ten minute cooldown.
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>>123502176
>>123502176
new
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>>123501117
B-B-B-BUT IT'S JUST A BETA!!
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>>123502173
its boring as hell. easy. and annoying when ppl ask you all few minutes about it.

theres many alchem now. you not gonna be rich fast with it anymore
easymode xp event alchems pushed the gem rost price into the ground
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