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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Wednesday, December 9th, 23:00 PM (EST).

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!

>Field Boss/F.O.E Timers
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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Toasters
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>>123551528
>most small enemies die in 2-3 hits or just get overkilled
>lets give some class a too rare to be useful instant kill for these types of enemies

IMC just enjoys doing this kind of stuff.
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Anyone with awakening list and magnum opus? We should include that in the OP.
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>>123551156
Now imagine that you are a healer that need a party to enter a dungeon.

Fortunately, a party was kind enough to offer you a slot. Will you enter with them?
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>Defeat nearby monsters
>there are no nearby monster
Great job, IMC
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>>123551528
>small monster
you sure about that senpai? may be google's translation, but if it is indeed that then it isn't that relevant
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bokors are useless now
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>>123551791
I don't think this party will be a problem. Sure it will take more time, but will still finish the dungeon.
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>>123551791
>hunter to falconer
Well that doesn't seem too bad I think?
>has a faggot name and probably wants to ERP with someone and their pet

Fuck.
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>>123551838
hexing to zaibas/carnivory still works.
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>Gets to top floor of Mage Tower as a Bokor

It's okay, I didn't feel like having fun, anyway.

Also, seriously, what's with that boss... she just waves her arms, and everything within a five mile radius of her is hurting... and she has a homing attack that can one-shot me from full health... That doesn't seem right.
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>>123551791
>Reiter
>no pistol
Only if I'm a cleric class
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>>123551836
that mean its shit. We archer kill small monster easy enough in the first place like >>123551702 said.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ko&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tosbase.com%2Fgame%2Fclasses%2FMusketeer%2F&edit-text=&act=url
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Anyone up for a lap of wacky races?
Invited classes are: cata, sorc, druid, falconer.
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>>123551791
I was with Onijun on 190 dungeon yesterday. He keeps linking us on cerbe which kills us all.
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>>123551904
Anon, krivis and druid are great without bokor too.
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>>123551904
>zaibas

nigger what
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>Someone announces Temple Shooter is up
>It's dead before you can even warp there
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Parties dead again
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>>123552146
Use anon's party hotkey.
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>>123552008
Sorc just can't win. We don't have the speed of the others when mounted and then our SP murders itself. Though certain summons do FEEL like they're quicker when you use Riding than others. Rithiris felt quicker than Templeshooter, but I think that's just perception by size and animations
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>>123552189
What's that
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>>123552006
>Damage has been coated by the enemy [Head shot] will increase 1% per attribute level.
Korean- English google translate isn't the best, is it? If it works for every kind of monster, then it's kinda nice, if not, then it is shit indeed.

Also
>Butt Stroke
>Skill been shot in the butt strokes] for three seconds it takes to stun with a 1.5% chance per level characteristics.
This attribute can be kinda nice too.
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>>123552086
It'll be much worse in open beta/release. Everyone at or above will come to fight it.
I'd say it can only get worse because you'll start to have parties of 5 300+ people rushing to it and killing it in like 60 seconds.
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I really love anons
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>>123552287
kiss me
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>>123551791
No tank - no heals
I'd join but be a laziest healer ever, dropping stuff only when my own ass is in danger.
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>>123552240
Would any KCBT players know how they currently are in korea?
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>>123552385
>implying you need tanks to clear dungeons
kek, they're fairly easy
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Thoughts on this build? Not really sure what to build with Hoplite.
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/pjddvwdbm4/
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>>123552223
Check previous threads.
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>4 weeks into beta
>waiting for people to realize you don't need to grind
Guess people will never realize it.
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>>123552575
And how do you not grind and get past 160, pray tell?
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>>123552610
Someone will tell you someday but it won't be today.
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Are they ever going to fix that fucking hitbox on Necroventer's attack where he charges up and shoots stones in a line? There's no way to get out without sprinting immediately and it covers a big area to his sides and behind him.
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>>123552575
Bullshit. I'm 200 and I can tell you that even with 2x exp you still need to grind demon prison.
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Sorc or C3 Pyro for 5th circle?
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>>123552610
>>123552698
They mean don't play the game.
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>>123552695
I don't have a sprint, I'm a wizard and I just walk out of the way before he lets it off. If you're behind him or at his flanks, you just back up slightly so that when his arms reach back they don't scratch you
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>>123552468
Neat. Thanks
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>>123552686
>It's not grinding if it's fun

I called it
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>>123552698
You'd be surprised how easy it is to get to 200 without grinding. And no its not a hack or exploit its legit leveling
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>>123552821
>can't share it
>can't even mention it without saying the words "hack" and "exploit"

Sounds exactly like what that is to me. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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>>123552234
>Covering Fire
Seems like it will be the same as R2 QS Rapid Fire but with more shots.

>Snipe
Skill that never miss its target?

>Headshot
Enhance version of Critical Shot?

>Penetration Shot
Enhance version of Ranger High Anchoring?

>Butt Stroke
Stun melee

>Bayonet Thrust
?
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>>123552894
Its not that I can't share, Simple fact that I won't.
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>>123552959
>Butt Stroke
I hope this name stays.

>>123552961
No one gives a shit around here. Politely kill yourself.
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>>123552014
I saw him today again, he's 200 now.
>using physical link
He reached that level and he's still a shitter?
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>>123552959
>>Bayonet Thrust
>?
Probably a pierce skill, butt stroke being strike. Musketeer sounds interesting, but so does cannoneer especially for sappers, fug.
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>>123552959
I hope penetration shot would just pierce through anything
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>>123553034
>Politely kill yourself.
Give it a year or two and I probably will.
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>Penetration Shot
>Bayonet Thrust
>Butt Stroke

Sexual innuendoes: the class. This is brilliant.
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>>123553209
More like 13 year olds giggling: the class
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>>123552959
what disappointing me the most is that the 3 musketeer cannot even kill those 5 monster.
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>>123551156

How do people do this anyway?

Teach me senpai. Beta is almost over.
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>>123553376
well, he has 5076 hp at level 200, those were just for show. we will only know how strong they are after KOBT
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>>123552959
I can't wait for all the skills that will either be unusable with muskets, or will shoot arrows anyway.
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>>123553379
The alf one is shopped, the other 2 are in-game image files being shown with a command line
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>>123553561
I hope skills like multi shot or barrage would have different animation with muskets
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>>123552959
i just realize the blue circle, this means that it is just another multishot.

>>123553135
cannoneer seems more promising because they have aoe damage unlike musketeer.
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>>123553379
You type in the long dicId string like in the error message. They're all on Github, I think. I don't know any details.
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>enter dungeon
>loading stuck at 2/3
one job IMC
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>>123553691
>i just realize the blue circle, this means that it is just another multishot.
nope, watch the trailer again, that skill is most likely covering shot. They also showed snipe, I believe
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>>123553691
>5076 hp
That's them specced STR
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>>123554053
yes it was covering shot but what i mean is covering shot is just another version of multishot but with faster shot.

Snipe seems nice but i hope the skill to be guarantee critical hit.
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How do people trade cards? I wanna buy a memeshooter one
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>>123554215
Cardbattle and keep going until they win the card
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>>123554187
>faster shot
faster rate of fire*
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>>123554215
which server are you on?
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>>123551791
I partied with all these guys except the Falconer. Has TwinBB learned not to pull mobs 4 miles away from the rest of the party so he can solo them himself?
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>>123554327
Zemyna
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>>123551791
That falconer looks depressed.
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>>123554373
too bad
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So I can't even get past the char selection on Laima, as it doesn't even load the UI and the characters before disconnecting me. Am I banned or something? I can make a new lodge on the other servers just fine.
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>Lv130 pet with no stat investment critting for 1.5k with Rushdog
>Sapper: Haha, i'm hitting 1.5k on flying mobs :)
tfw
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>>123551791
How can these people grind and even reach Rank 6?
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>>123554667
Sapper literally has nothing in their kit to deal with flying mobs.
People will tell you that claymore is what you use for flying but standing still while you get pounded by a mob of flying enemies and then doing subpar damage anyway is no good.
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Can someone tell me what swordsman skills don't work while mounted? thinking of taking one circle of cata for ez traveling.
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>>123552575
Getting cards from missions is much slower than grinding demon prison. Did like 20 of them, no cards, gave up on it.
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>>123554773
Isn't that why you join up with other people? It's an MMO is it not? Just make a party where everyone can cover eachothers weaknesses.
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>>123554773
Exactly but I just sorta kept my mouth shut and went on with the run. Who am I to break the guys delusion?
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>>123554925
It's the enemies anon.
They're pretty much endless, go straight at you, and are scaled to your level meaning they're always good exp.
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>>123554725
They play the game.
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>>123554967
Yeah, but currently half the classes have glaring weaknesses while the others are excellent all-arounders who don't need the weaker ones.
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Panto Druid is faster than cata.
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>>123555269
Everything is fast when they're running away.
Even enemies that have been slowed will run out on you at full speed.
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>>123551791
The archer2>Qs3>Schwarzer gets the archer meta, he has the greatest single target dps for archers
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>>123555460
>single target
I love this meme
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>>123555495
What can't wrap your head around the concept killing things 1 at a time?
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>>123554187
>Sapper literally has nothing in their kit to deal with flying mobs.

>claymore
>collar bomb
>exploding other traps

But yeah, I hate facing fliers. Claymore isn't bad, you can aim for the second hit and kill a bunch of fliers, just set it up, wait for them to approach you, run past them and activate it, not setting the claymore in front of them. It can even overkill
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>>123555583
Not him but killing things one at a time in a mob-centric game is shit. Especially dungeons where you kill mobs if you don't boss rush
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>>123555583
...in a Korean MMO.

Heh... heheh... haaaaahahahahah... hahahah!
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>>123555583
Killing Lepus bunny one at a time near lv200 is pure suffering.
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Anyone know what is a valid rate for awakening an item?

For example something like scale boots.
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>>123555670
>>123554773
fugg :D

Also, sapper could greatly benefit from cannoneer, as the latter has a skill that makes flying mobs grounded for some seconds
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>>123555973
100k-300kish I guess. Scale boots is 650k in the market last time I checked.
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>>123555460
I hope he likes dismounting just to pick up stone to throw
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>>123555973
i charge 400k
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>>123556081
Just get it to 15 the other skills are shit anyway
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>>123555724
Sure, you'd have a hard time levelling but you're not gonna be levelling forever.
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Anyone got the line to hide the UI for the hotkey?
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>>123556427
Enjoy farming everything for drops one by one then
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>>123556483
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/toggleui/
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>>123556524
Considering the only worthwhile end-game gear are from F.O.E, I will.
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>>123556536
Thanks.
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Are Shaton recipes some sort of quest reward?
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This storage not shared between alts is killing me, do i really have to farm/buy memedaggers and such erry time?
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>>123556002
>>123556106
These jews.
Thank god I have an Alchemist friend who does my awakenings for free.
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>>123556963
Transfer money, buy new ones
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>>123557038
congratulations on having a NEET friend that does not value 10 minutes of their time at all :^ )
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>>123557038
Yes, it's a good feeling when they're actually around

>>123557152
If you value 10 minutes of your time so much that you need to jew a fictional currency in a beta that will be wiped then I don't know why you even play MMOs
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>>123557083
This potential stuff is killing me.
This should be changed to simple damage in durability instead, and if they really want to complicate things, maybe some kind of seals to make things tradeable would be better.
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>>123557152
You say that like 10 min is something out of this world
I waste hours everyday for a bunch of talt.
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>>123557152
Calm yourself Rabbi.
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>>123557152
This guy is valuing his time on 4chan.
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>>123557898
noot noot
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>>123557656
What a valuable experience!

>>123557898
DW vuvuzelas.
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>>123557898
can i have one?
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>Firstly, why would you create an open poll that can be easily manipulated by a single person, especially when you share it on Facebook. What does the forum has a poll plugin - which you've disabled - for? Maybe even Steam has a method to launch a game-specific survey.

>Secondly, while Saviors or Revelators may be a cute way to be called by but it is quite a high level of narcissism to label oneself as such.
I would expect one of those two options from big corporations like EA or Blizzard who act cautiously and conservatively but a community in position to decide should be able to be more imaginative.

>Even the term ToSters might sometimes sound a bit weird when addressing the community but it's at least unique, creative, ironic, memorable and not embarrassing as the other two.

>ToSsies is ok, too, but I still prefer ToSters. Not to mention that the later gives you a reason to implement toasters and a toast gesture - using the weapon, preferably subweapon - into the game.

Just how autistic do you have to be. The inferiority complex screams 'kek' from a mile away. Does this nigger close his eyes whenever he gets called Revelator by NPCs or looks at the word Savior in the logo because he finds it to be embarrassing? You can't make this shit up
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>>123558384
Who are you quoting? I'm genuinely asking.
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Anyone know how to type in japanese? Whenever I type It's just dots.
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>>123558496
>https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/official-name-for-our-fanbase/121657/60
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>>123558384
Exp Card Junkies. This is what we should be called.
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>>123558558
>These are the kinds of people you play this game with
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>>123558558
>you fucking tossie

That sounds like it would be an insult.
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>>123558384
>ToSters
Damn right in the feels.
It's been so long since i've called myself toaster.
Good old times.

Flesh is weak!
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>>123556759
pls rspnd

where2cope shaton fashion
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>>123558531
change windows locale to japanese, keyboard input and windows on-screen keyboard to japanese
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>>123559812
Fuck off reddit.
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>>123559298

>RF Online

Now this is a game that defined grinding

Level 51 unlock quest
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>>123559896
wow rude
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>>123559968
We don't need you. Get out.
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>>123559298
I don't think I will ever get to play a robot on a MMO again.
only other game was PSO and that shit is jp only
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As a Sorc/Necro should I just buy two Wizard Bracelets or awaken two of these?
>http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/602105/
>Awakening +9 INT
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>>123559914
>have to grind stats as you level up
No, its just ridiculous
>leveling block rate
>have to kite mobs and have them hit you for a while
Fuck that
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Which fedimian mission is the easiest?
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I saw Sorcs with different sized Temple Shooters. How do you get that - upgrade the main card ? Feels like a waste if so.
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>>123560109
Depends on the whole build. A total of +18 Int is nice if you awakened two, but two Wizard Bracelets contribute more to your damage if you have other skills to use. Generally if your build has a lot of multi-hit attacks for you to use, you'd prefer Wizard. Especially with Familiar and Flesh Cannon (which you should definitely have if you pick up Wizard Bracelets)

>>123560281
The first
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Featherfoot is a better healer than Cleric
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When do I use my 6,7 and 8 cards?
165?
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>>123560358
>Casts drain on mob.
>Barb kills it.

No.
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>>123560392
>lmao he falled into the keep your card mene
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>>123560392
165.
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>>123560265
Well, I like the idea to grind your stats and skills. It feels like I'm actually making a progress over time.

>leveling block rate

That shit was ridiculous by time you maxed it coupled with guardian class block rate buff.
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>>123560358
The heal looked somewhat weak in the trailer. At least for allies.
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>>123560354
Well, my summon already hits pretty hard, I guess I'll just go for the wizard bracelets to support his damage. Thanks.
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Anyone up to do merc missions?
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>>123560392
160.

165 are all liars.
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>>123553376
at least Archer classes are consistent :^)
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>>123560265
You forgot about grinding skills too :^)
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>>123561084
Gabi?
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So you can't enhance monster gems?
I feel dumb now.
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Can we have something more cute like kisser?
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>>123560457
They believe everything they hear instead of actually testing shit out, what did you expect.
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>>123562116
talty
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>>123552575
>>123552610
>>123552686
Lv100 daily missions.
No, not the hat ones.
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holy shit
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>>123560392
used all of 6 7 and 8 on 163 and got to class 15 on last card
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>>123562407
merc missions or party quests? Cause i've been doing both since 100 and I still needed to grind.
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>>123562439
legit tho
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>>123562031
Yes. 190++
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>>123562439
How can people even afford this? Isn't it like 500k per enhance at that level?
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>>123562647
2billion silver exploit
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>>123562439
THE MADMAN
I want to see how it looks
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>>123555079
But they are not endless. Actually mob density is lacking in missions.
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>>123562718
teach me
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>>123562439
>>123562876
does it glow?
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>>123562439
>>123562876
I sure can't wait to see people hit the +50 or +100 or whatever cap for enhancement. with their cashshop potential restore scrolls and said scrolls sell for millions each to fund said enhancements
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>>123557152
>10min of his life in an ending beta game is worthy 400.000 fakey money

dam son
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>>123562635
I'm next to the Liam guy if you still got room.
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>>123563037
I already reported it so I doubt it will work when obt comes around.
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>>123563425
only means he can't trade it its not gonna go away if it stays on him
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>>123563268
We're inside already anon. sorry.
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>>123563425
>one socket
this nigger
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What the fuck is up with the 160 dungeon?
I just got kicked out randomly
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>>123563358
I'd still like to abuse it to make a crazy weapon now.
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>>123563521
I can wait until you're done with that one.
Unless you're full.
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Pyro and Cryo should be moved up to circle 3 while Linker and Psychokino should be on Circle 2

It'd be better to get Linker out of the way sooner and both it and Psychokino will remain useful at 1 circle even later on. Pryo and Cryo are good enough to handle stuff around third circle and It's better if you aren't tempted to veer off the path of going to C3 in them by the former two skills. They even become immediately more useful because you go into them with Linker or Psychokino.

The only downside is it opens up the possibility of someone to try to go Wizard -> Linker 3 without even boosting the basic Wizard spells with Wizard 2 first. It still feels like a waste though to have to dump a circle into Pryo or Cryo and then possibly end up doing something else entirely after. Psychokino and Linker have too much utility to be wastes.
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>>123564000
Do u really want to be stuck with lv5 energy bolt for 40 levels as your only damage move?
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>>123563662
Are you 190+ anon?
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>>123564000
About this Pyro and Cryo thing, they should just move Frost Cloud to Cryo (whatever the circle) to match Pyro's Flame Ground.

Keeping the huge damage but low duration or nerfing the damage but 100% uptime, I don't know.
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I think the damage from poison bugged sitting for me
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>>123564276
Not him but is there room for one more? I'm 200.
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Can some cryo2 record how does ice wall + gust work? To pull this you should apply damage attribute for gust.
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>>123564000
I'd swap pyro and psyko. Personally i find pyro to be the real problem in the wizard line, and it only got worse when they gave the ability to do shit like pyro 2 + linker after allowing to pick whatever you want at any rank.
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Daym, how debuffs (and buffs) overlap is completely retarded.
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>>123553979
Not him, but I've been through the files and the character portraits don't have dicIDs. You have to reference them directly, but I've yet to find a workaround to the game's block on {} even by calling the chat functions directly using hotkeys, so I'd assume the sekrit clubbers are just using a memory editor to force it in.
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>>123564480
That happens any time you get hit while sitting.
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>>123562439
>>123562876
>>123563425
This is bullshit, even with limitless money what are the odds for this?
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Bleed triggers arde dagger, is it the same with elemental damage on awakened gear?

>>123564875
Looks like the money is more important that RNG.
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>>123564221
There's Earthquake too, and honestly, if each Energy Bolt is hitting 5 linked enemies, it's not a problem, especially if you're buying attributes, which would be a good investment at that point. Plus it's still better to be getting Linker out then than struggling with it while Pyro/Cryo are just hanging on.

If you went Wiz -> Psycho, damage wouldn't even be a problem, similar to choosing Pyro. PP is a great move even alone and telekenesis would be fine at that level.

>>123564729
Maybe, though it seems weird to have cryo not on the same level as psycho.

>>123564875
Doesn't it stay at 50% after the first few times?
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>>123564514
Waiting for one more. Let's go anon.
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>>123564875
It stays at 51% after +10, the tutorial does say that hitting the anvil at a certain rhythm might increase the success rate
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>>123565183
what. source on this claim (the rhythm bit)
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>>123565361
I read the text when it comes up.
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>>123563358
Can you tell me anyway?
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>>123563425
>I break weapons before +8
>hackers get it to +32
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>>123564331
>>123564729
>>123565004
Buy you guys are forgetting that Cryo and Pyro are from different niches.
It wouldn't make sense to give Cryo a pyro-like DPS while it keeps its characteristic CC.
Pyromancers have close to none CC, and all of their spells are ground targeted.

People already said that: Pyro is PvE focused class, Cryo is PvP focused class
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>>123564954
Yes
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>merchant tree
>squire, pardoner, corsair, alchemist, dievdirby and oracle are now part of it
>new classes: mechanic, genetic, biochemist, mastersmith

do you like toasters?
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>>123565860
Gee this sounds scary to use with bats and buggy skeletona. I dont want to get melted by my bats or swarmed by skeles.

>>123565937
aka most broken classes, all other trees btfo.
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Does the attribute for Elementalist and Pyro C2 make Fireball and Flame Ground do splash damage? Or just Elementalist fire damage skills?
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Still no changes to kCBT other than the new client, but there was a post from one of the GMs on their website.

http://tos.nexon.com/news/gos/view.aspx?n4ArticleSN=21

It's just a quiz event.
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>>123564801
Can you give me a working portrait image file name, I just wanna try something.
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>>123565767
This Cryo's badge isn't blue for just aesthetics
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Shut the fuck up kada.
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>>123565132
Dont suppose you still need another person for merc missions?
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>>123566281
We're full, maybe next time anon.
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>>123565767
>>123566226
The thing that most people are pissed about is that cryo has no real real good aoe options till C3. Also the damage is lackluster despite the CC. I still honestly believe that cryo's ice blast was suppose to be their damaging skill and ice pike and ice bolt were meant to be supplements.
Have you seen footage of the old Ice Blast? It did good damage, it did aoe damage around the frozen targets, and it didn't have a weird and strange effect radius, it hit the whole screen pretty much. Now all we have of it is a limited use skill that does terrible damage, a cooldown of 30 seconds after 3 uses, absolute shit damage, a fucked up radius where you need to be right next to them for it to work on the frozen targets, and no splash damage.
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>>123566226

>tfw almost rank 6 but i don't want to pick another class because of muh cryo badge
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>Market is per-channel
JUST A BETA
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>>123566616
Is this true?
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>>123566739
Half-true. Some items appear in different channels, some don't.
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>Be 134
>be in forest of prayet doing quests
>few people half a screen away from me
>find a blue enemy, get to 80% through 135 from killing it, since nobody else hit it at all
That was a good start to the day.
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>>123557898
Has anyone actually found a use for the shovel yet?
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Turns out bosses can be lucky spawns as well.

Also turns out that resetting lucky spawns will deluckify them
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>>123565937
alchemist is way too powerful to be something below r6
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>>123566165
Dlg_port_Grita
If you're thinking of editing/creating a new dicID, don't bother, it'll only work on your end.
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>>123567504
How do you curly brace?
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>>123567549
You don't.
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>>123567437
So would silver/gold spawns of field bosses even do anything special? Just more money? The cube drop is set and whatever you get from cubes doesn't actually drop from the boss itself so it wouldn't even affect that at all I don't think.
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Will they turn arena on? I want to break some faces.
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>>123567437
Good thing it was Harpeia, who bugs most of the time anyway
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>>123567192
>get to rank 6 on my first char without seeing any blue mobs
>create new char, found one during my 82-86 grind killing vikaras
>found another one not even 5 minutes later, got to 92
that saved me some exp cards
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>>123567654
If it was gold, you might get two cubes, otherwise I don't think it would make a difference.
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>40 repair squires
>0 weapon buffers

go to hell
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>>123567437
>>123567654
>>123567673
Someone on lebbit mentioned it does nothing
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>>123567654
Who knows. Some nigger reset it and cleared its lucky buff while my party was loggin over to our rank 6er's to clear em out. I assume it makes more cubes drop but knowing this game, probably nothing more than more money.
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>>123567728
Klaipeda channel 1 near blacksmith my Brazilian friend.
If you're on Gabija that is.
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>>123567437
Is this Gabija?
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>>123567938
This was last night on Gabija
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>>123567504
I remember some anon spouting that the chat server is php based, Some work arounds might work.
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How many level 8 cards do I need to get to 175 after I've grinded to 165?
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When do I get the Fedimian Warpstone?
It really sucks to port to Klaipeda first and when manually teleport to Fedimian. No wonder nearly noone is willing to set up shop there.
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>>123568510
http://www.tosbase.com/game/exp-tables/base/
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/640114/
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>>123568510
I got to 175 by using around 67-75 level 7 cards and around 65 level 8 cards from level 166. Just take a look at the exp table and do some calculation of your own. leddit even got an excel file for that.
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>>123568692
Never
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>>123568796
>>123567731
Leave please.
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>>123565767
The thing is that when you reach rank 2 you have the choice between:
-the best wizard dps class which is only "balanced" because fireballs get thrown around by everything.
-Some class with a status effect that doesn't even work against bosses and which you could simply pick up later on when you feel nothing of value will be lost. Mediocre damage and aoe potential to boot.
-Suffering through Wiz C2 that utterly sucks and will only be good because of an attribute at C3.

Linker is the only other class in the whole branch that gives me that feeling, and when i see how many people go pyro i feel i'm not the same. Seems there's also an increase in thauma recently, maybe they realized they are better increasing pyro spells rather than picking another damage class.
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>>123568796
Oh wow that doesn't seem too bad then. I have 133 level 7 cards right now, and 29 level 8 cards and I haven't done any of the Dina Bee farm and beyond quests yet. Shouldn't take me much more to get there.
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>>123568905
>Mediocre damage and aoe potential to boot.

If this is Cryo, C3 is truly amazing when grouped.
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>>123567437
>blue world boss
>you'd still only get one exp
Is there even a point?
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>>123568275
>PHP
Well, that explains a lot about this game, actually.
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With 2x exp, if you're killing things and fighting mobs, you shouldn't need to worry too much about saving cards anyways.
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>>123568275
>PHP for chat server

How'd they figure this out?
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>>123569538
False. You still need to max out dungeon runs and grind at demon prison. Atleast the grind is faster.
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I've already decided what I want to make first next beta, but now I need something to kill time with until the end of the beta.

1-3 = http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/baey8dzu1l/

4-6 = http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/r0an9fwl8g/

6-9 = http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/scoiap1fo3/

0 = http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/xgojw7fxgk/
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>>123569642
I'm enjoying Demon Prison. You have to group up and it's nice when someone in your group hits their target level. I haven't played an MMORPG that had this feeling since FFXI.
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>>123569718
>cryokino

Have fun anon.
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>>123569718
I'm glad you didn't roll the pyromentalist build, it's not very fun until ele2
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>>123569768
Yeah. Demon prison was the first time it felt like an MMO, besides dungeons.
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>>123551791
These are all legitimate builds except the swordman.

The hunter is bad but it's not a build issue, it's just because hunter is bad.

That Reiter build is one of the top PvP builds, garbage of course in PvE but still performs decently.

That linker is a linker. Enough said. (That being said, if he's fucking stupid enough to use physical link at 200, that's an issue with his brain and not his build)
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>>123569251
>C3 Cryo in group
>Snow Rolling keeps pushing mobs out of Flame Circle, Stabbing, etc
never again
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>>123569927
Also, if you really wanted to go Hunter, either hunter 3,2, or 0 is the way to go and she got that right. Going 1 circle only would be an absolutely waste for the class.
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>>123569972
Don't play with shitters.
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>>123552014
Are you sure you aren't mistaking the adds using Joint Penalty on you with Phys Link?
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>>123570052
Pretty sure it was the yellow one (The one the linker casts) not the one the mobs cast. He did it on firelord also.
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>>123570038
>Don't play with anyone
There's no option to join Gesti yet, sadly.
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Why are there some quests that require like 9000 levels? For example, http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/16500/
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>>123569972
Except Snow Rolling doesn't move anything unless you tell it to. Someone with half a brain would instead move things into everything
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>>123570152
What a fucking idiot
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>>123569624
Some source code leaked out.
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any alchemist on gabija up for one awaken
I can pay a little
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>>123554773
Uhm... you can simply switch to your 2H bow and multishot them?
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>>123569624
Ragnarok server was entirely written in PHP and didn't suck much, compared to Tree of Loags and Bugs.

>>123570384
Again?
I think they like to leak. Maybe is their way to promote the game via private servers.
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>>123570384
That snippet you posted must be the character server or whatever it is that keeps track of levels and EXP.

This explains everything. I wonder if the AH is also PHP. No wonder it goes down so much. Top kek.
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>>123570384
That's LUA, which ToS uses for scripting.
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>>123570656
>>123570384
This is client side lua code, not a 'leak' of any kind.
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>>123570786
>>123570839
I know, the chat php code isn't really confirmed its just a rumor.
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Is pelt c2 good? or is pelt c1 enough? Going rodo c3 even if I know it's shit.
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Can Alchemists awaken their own shit?
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>>123567504
>>123567597
but how do you use it then?
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>>123571916
yes if they can solo it
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>>123569972
These is the same group of Players Who Use Bash to Knock Mobs Out Of AOE right?

I've never seen anyone play that way.
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>>123569972
Is it just me or the range for Stabbing is real shit?
Like you can't even hit the bigass boss right in front of you sometimes.
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>>123572831
it's absolute shit
even with two handed spear range it's ass to get it right
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where do you get the flower branch hair costume
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>>123572831
What is Finestra: Splash?
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>>123573310
Legwyn
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God, I'm such a masochist I feel good grinding at nuoridin falls
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>>123573338
how? i assume it was the chest with the gravity pad but i only got the armband
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>>123573364
>Wendigo Searchers

Why
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>>123573431
Open it everyday.
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>asked 3 times
>google every day
>still don't know what Paladin's "Conversion" does

pls
help
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>>123573473
every day, not every hour?
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>>123573554
You won't get anything every hour.
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>>123573483
WOLOLO
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>>123573332
Even with the attribute, it's shit.
Or maybe it's because I'm an ex-Highlander who's too used to hitting mobs halfway across the screen every time.
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>>123573698
oh, is it useful at all? It doesn't even say how long they convert for...or is it perm?
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>Plant Collection Effect

What?
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>>123573892
Get 15 stacks of the effect, get a herb, cutester
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>>123573892
You can smoke that herb with the other revelators senpai.
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>>123573460
Fear of death, Excitement of dying, gotta get that fix
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So how do you guys grind so fast? Do you just bot overnight?
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>>123573332

That's AoE ratio, not range
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>>123574234
We play the game.
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>>123574234
Just playing the game. I've been at 200 for a while just goofing off ingame. Not even grinding recently
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>>123574008
>a herb
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can't wait till they add wings
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>>123574234
I'm a NEET with insomnia.
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>>123574346
Americans say "an" while Brits use "a"
The 'h' is sounded in Britain
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>>123574396
>That BR spelling
Just what you would expect from private server shitters.
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>>123574234
It takes some focus, I imagine. I have 3 characters at lvl 130 and about 7 other characters at lvl 70+, I've been just trying everything.
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>>123574234
Don't fall for the save all your cards, grind at prison meme. Its a trap to actually slow people down
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>there are people in here grinding in ToS instead of out shopping
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>>123570243
Means it's disabled and probably unfinished. That's why some zones have less than 15 exp cards and those stones don't teleport you anywhere.
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>>123574619
then do what? what do you do once you're out of cards and you're 160?
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>>123574787
erp with cattly
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>>123574787
You'll never run out of cards if you actually manage exp gain and card usage
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>>123574716
what could you possibly need in life besides a computer, housing, food and water
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>>123574716
I just bought a new laptop, what else am I gonna buy?
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>>123575051

Lies
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>>123575051
What? Managing exp gain = grind, the way I see it. There's no good grinding spot from 165-175, so it's not possible.
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>>123575051
well memed
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>goblin wizard delayed ice pike freeze effect.
Fuck these guys.
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>>123575320
Basically every mob in the game with Ice Pike
>>
Post titty goddesses and demons. NPCs too
>>
Does anyone have a schedule for future open and closed beta testings?
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>>123575446
We're not IMC.
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>>123552450
See, I honestly don't get it. Every dungeon I've seen so far has been "LFM TANK" or shit, when tanks don't really exist in this game as a thing, since even if you have excessive amount of def/block you will quickly get destroyed by enemies when a bunch are attacking you at the same time. basically all a tank is in this game is a guy who's got the bosses focus standing in a safety shield on the opposite direction that everybody else is.
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>>123575446
My dad works at IMC, he said English OBT is around March. Full release in Summer.
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>>123552450
>>123575541

Correct, I never look for a tank ever and I always laugh at those who do. All you need is a linker with half a brain
>>
>>123575495
>>123575593
I-I just wanna play the game..
>>
Anybody just leveling shit builds for fun?
>>
>>123575703
>>123571675
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>>123575517

I don't understand, are you saying you need to grind anyways? Why not just grind in the place with the best mob density in the game?
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>>123575647
h-how to be a good linker? I just unlocked it.
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>>123575837
See mob, go link. It's a no brainer.
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>>123575647

You don't even need a linker. Anyone exclusively looking for one and not getting whatever class shows up is a retard too.
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>>123573891
It doesn't work properly. Conversion chances are buggy (too low) and converted mobs get stuck in place and never do anything.
But when it works, converted mobs follow you forever.
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>>123575541
You pretty much only need someone to get a bunch of mobs and cc them in place a bit.
A peltasta isn't so bad though, he could aggro a ton of mobs, i'd link and hangman the few i could and freeze the others while the other players destroyed everything with my thauma buffs and the peltasta could do damage aswell due to many mobs being unable to do shit.

I actually liked that build.
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>>123575541
"Tank" is just any swordy that invested in the Provoke attribute, presumably also has swash.

The most use you get out of a tank is on bosses, since they can keep the boss from turning.

It'd be nice if they made blocking usable on magic attacks, because as it stands half of the bosses have mostly unblockable movesets. Maybe add an attribute to block Magic attacks at 50% damage reduction or something.
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don't be afraid to party with other people! they won't bite!
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>>123576405
>Cat summon wipes out Blessing+Sacrament

triggered
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>>123576265
At this point I don't care if enemies evaded 70% of bolt type magic. Magic should be able to miss. If it's going to home in, it should be able to miss.
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I wanted to make a sort of general Healer bitch character but found out that Bokor looks insanely fun. Is it any good? The zombies seem pretty great and annoying

This would generally be a build to do team stuff with

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/of6te8mrue/
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>>123575541

"Tank" refers to someone with Swash Buckling.
>>
>>123575517
Sounds like bullshit, furthermore considering the calculations would only need to be done once if you weren't giving out total bullshit here you'd already have this information.

That 30million experience would be easier to get after experience values normalize based around experience instead of HP:EXP. Constructor's Chapel and SDW are great places to grind.

Example you can do some grinding at SDW:
Kepari - 530xp

Demon Prison:
Harugal - 3k
Nuka - 700
Elet - 770
Guardian Spider - 770

This means that if you took out Harugal SDW is actually comparable and a funner spot to grind, although the density is close it still won't reach Demon Prison levels other than one place in the map (Third room in)

Supposedly Dina Bee Farm has 2 areas that clump up mobs you can switch between

Well scrap everything I said
Earth Hallowventer - 942
Earth Shredded - 465

Spending some time here is equivalent as SDW and the spawnrate is pretty good. Spending 5-10 levels here could help a lot.
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>be a generic swordie with peltasta c1
>get invited to party
>they expect me to swashbuckle and tank everything and then leave me to die with no heals
t-thanks
>>
>>123575837
- Joint penalty in the right direction, face the mob correctly. Do not break your links by sudden quirky movements or trying to be a tryhard MLG animation canceller.
- Make sure you start getting your joint penalty attributes ASAP. Turn on the electric ones for Krivis and Eles and poison for Wugushi, earth for Barbs and Cataphracts.
- Hangman immediately, and also face the right direction or it won't go off. You can animation cancel this.
- Do not use physical link unless you want your party to strangle you.
- Spirit link if you can foresee there are important buffs to be shared, keeping the buff limit and the availability of Daino in mind.
- If you're a pyro or you see a pyro link their fireballs and hangman them.
- Keep your hangman up on the mobs if they are not dead by the time your cooldown refreshes
- If your joint penalty stacks on the mob, the earliest one if the one that is effective. This means that you link A+B, and later you link A+C without B (think of early traps (B) spawned by boss which died, then later linking new traps(C)), then now the boss has 2 joint penalties, if you hit him it won't hit the latest traps. you have to hit the latest traps (C) to hit A+C mobs.
- Spam joint penalty to stack them if there is an elemental user (I said above - Krivis, Wugushi etc.) because it stacks. For example, 0 joint penalty applies 500 zaibas damage. 1 would apply 700. 2 would apply 900.
- Create an icewall if there are no other mobs to do joint penalty with (like a boss) if you really need an elemental bonus

>>123575902
Kinda, but if you really want to be a top notch linker, you do the above.
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>>123576618
Bokor 1 is hell on earth. It is the least fun thing I have ever experienced. I never made it to 2 but everyone says it's really good.
>>
>rogue class advancement quest
>that boss
why
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>>123576864
what if instead of Priest I went Krivis for the lightning spell to help me solo level easier?
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>>123576676
Man, the fucking exp scaling is really what gets me off

121 map is like 500 exp while 155 is 700+. And the experience requirements are so much higher. Fucking shit
>>
>>123576954
Yeah, fucking abomination has an F.O.E level hp with that stuck in the sky bug. I almost gave up going rogue
>>
Now that I'm 120 what gear should I work on? I know I need to get my elder rod and dagger awakened, but are there any sets I should prioritize?

>>123575837
It synergizes with literally everything. Not to mention you can pull mobs together which really speeds things up. It's also super fun.

>>123576987
That's what I did. It really, really didn't help. Really, I thought I didn't like this game when I made that character. Now I'm on this one and it turns out I love it. Personally I'd wait for them to balance better before making one.
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>Finally Squire
>Get a lv130 dungeon run
>Someone ask for a quick repair so I open one
>repair lv1, unitprice 84 so I get like 4coins profit per repair kit, party discount
>"ha lol, you are expensive"

How do people jew this class anyway?
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>>123576618
Get krivis, It's better for making zombies.
C3 is shit, don't bother.
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>>123577282
By not caring the complains.
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>>123577282

They probably pick select all
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>>123577282
People are just doing it wrong, and hitting the repair all which adds all the equips in their inventory even the full dura ones.
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>>123577337
It's not worth it even for Damballa? Seems broken

Paladin c2 to finish then?
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>>123577282
You don't jew your party members m8. I set it to 40 silver for them.
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>>123576676
No the calculations are class specific hoplite would level faster on trees more than other mobs because of pierce doesn't mean that an archer will level just as fast when he levels on trees.
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>>123577508
Your source of dps is zombies, why are you going to make them explode?
The 170s zone doesn't have that much mob density and bokor zombies is shit against bosses.
Can't say anything about paladin. Haven't tried it yet.
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>>123577523
>making a loss off of shitters
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Already tried

>Barblander
>Pyrolinker
>Pelt Hoplite
>Krivis Sadhu

What's the next meme build I should try?
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>>123577809
>>123569718
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>>123577809
Cryodicker
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>>123577809
archer 3 qs 3
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>>123577809

Fencer.
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>>123576618
Bokor is so good for grinding that in the Demon Prison you will force entire parties out of rooms by yourself.
Joining any party for grinding will only lower the amount of exp you'll get every hour. I would recommend it to everyone but then I have competition and also playing bokor is complete hell until you get to bokor c2 and get to a good grinding spot like the Demon Prison.
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>>123577765
>partying with shitters
>not whoring likes and friends that will always come to you for polishing rods in the future
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>167 forgotten lv 6 cards
>lv 157
Did I mess up
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>>123577282
You make most of your money from lazy people with repairs. Money maker is from weapon buffs. I don't know how you'll make money when release since there's going to be a fuckton of competition. I guess it would be okay to repair your own stuff if they bring the high repair prices back.

>>123577809
Make a meme archer
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>>123576987
If anything blessing it going to make solo leveling a lot easier for you. Krivis is taken mainly to make you look attractive for dungeon parties since you have daino, and zalcai is absolutely amazing at later levels since you'll be pumping spirit to give your zombies a lot of health.
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So is Demon Prison district 2 still the best way to grind out 140-160?
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>>123578226
That will actually lessen the grind at demon prison.
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>>123577282
I don't overcharge people I'm in a party with because that's kind of a dick move. Otherwise you jew in town.
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>>123578260
Well there's dina bee farm for shitters who don't want to party and there's second demon prison for higher levels.
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>>123577667
Oh, welll that yeah is a whole different problem and a very big one, they need some map diversity to make this okay, but as it stands right now you would basically have to make a leveling spot specific to your character (I've already done this with fletcher before)

As I'm doing pyrolinker honestly you won't run into your specific great leveling spots often (Ice, Ghost), so you just level wherever the fuck you want avoiding Fire mobs and going for high density.

Elet are the only mobs that have been a problem for me at all on my pyromancer, everywhere else is cake.
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>>123578260

Yes. Once you are ~155 start looking for party in the 2nd prison.
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>>123574234
I just duo grind with a friend 2-3h a day (so we don't burn out) one room in DP2.

There are not many classes that at that point can out-dps a pyrolinker with a temple shooter, so even if some small party tries to steal our spot, they give up and leave.

Chug sp pot like crazy it's an exp card but never gave a fuck, I since I can make more money there only by silver drops alone
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>>123578562
I have a permanent party, just was wondering since we're all 150ish.
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y-yeah sensei, that was nothing
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>>123576698
Add to this, if you're a pyro do NOT use the hangman damage attribute it knocks your fireball away.

>>123576987
This is a fail I tried it, 3 levels in priest is extremely lategame, so unless you need krivis somewhere in your build, skip it for 3 priest which is also, extremely easy leveling.

Like any MMO for some reason there is always a very high amount of demon/devil mobs, but holy mobs are very rarely seen.
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>>123578520
>to make a leveling spot specific to your character
Its already there people just don't see it yet or probably never will.

I'm not saying demon prison is wrong or bad its the best place if your'e a party centric class. But some classes just level faster with other methods
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Is there any class better than Pyrolinker for soloing?
Can easily solo every single dungeon in the game, can use pretty much all the grind spots people usually need a party for all on their own getting ridiculous exp/hr numbers, can literally melt bosses in seconds, is there anything a Pyrolinker can't do?
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Is it me or the warp scroll for the item shop literally doesn't run out?
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where do you guys go to grind gems?
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>>123578754
Is she going to teach you adult stuff?
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>>123579303
Anywhere with high mob density.
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>>123578695
Seriously this method works great in room 4. As a pyrolinker I can almost solo this room myself, shit gets thrown off when faggots come in to try to KS, but when I'm with a sorc it's heaven just linking for his Temple Shooter and having the other half of the spawns locked by fireballs. Unfortunately have to take a bit more risk when faygos start knocking my fireballs away despite being in the corner (terrible design that this can be done and there's no counterplay to it)

>>123579063
Yeah pretty much, for archer:
Flying, small or at the very least small mobs
(Cobalt Forest is a great spot, you can sort of hold your own at spots like Nefritas, Tenet Garden/Chapel/etc)
For sapper:
Anything that groups a lot or has fast movement speed but isn't so quick to attack (back and forth on spikes, claymore) or static spawns
Few spots, can't remember exactly Constructors Chapel 1F/2F(event) is good
Sapper C2:
Dungeons, using Oblique at SDW

Fletcher:
Small, Flying, Cloth, at least 2.
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>>123579121
Pyrolinker can't get Best Damage title.
What's so good about pyros is that their damage output is consistent, you'll generate damage where you want it.
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>>123565621
Can't compete with hacker brs man

That entire party is filled with BR cocksuckers.
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>>123576506
>not having daino
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Chronomancer is the class in need of the most buffs. Not because it's the weakest class but because there is figuratively no choice at rank 5 for wizards, it's Sorc or nothing. I guess there are some elementalists, but they're few and far between.
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>>123565621
I got my Ignition to +8 after repeated fails. Pretty sure I still have 4 or 5 potential left, but don't want to gamble anymore because it's just sad that it can fail on any of the three hits needed.
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Does alchemist awakening cost them anything but time? I'm thinking of going alch
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im c1 peltasta can i get to cataphract in a decent time at this point?
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>>123579121
I have a pyrolinker at 177 and a pyrothaum at 150. I prefer the pyrothaum.
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>>123580686
Yes but very little comparatively and selling it is fine.
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>>123580758
You can even get to rank 6 with the time left
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>>123580813
Alright. Does /tosg/ have an alchemist? Wouldn't mind helping you faggots out
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>>123580419
Thaum C2, Elementalist C2, Psychokino C3, Linker C3. There's plenty of choices.
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>>123580419
Depending on how rank 7 turns out, I'd legit consider picking linker 2 /pyro2 or potentially even pyro1/linker3 for rank 5 for solo play.
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>>123581062
If Featherfoot or Warlock are good, I'm going Pyro2/Thaum3/Featherfoot or Warlock.
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>>123581025
>>123581062
Point is that chrono isn't even a choice though. Sure we don't know what c3 has, but c1 and 2 are just extremely mediocre. It's disappointing because they could do so much with a chronomancer
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>>123569927
Those builds are bad in the sense that they are completely and utterly worthless and you could have made a build that performs better at c3 than they can at c6, yeah the classes are bad, but so are these builds.
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>>123581006
I think there's an alch here but he's a complete jew. I don't mind paying as long as you're trustworthy.
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So at what level do you stop grinding meme prison and card up?
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>>123581405
Well alright, I'll see how bored of sorc I am when I have the choice between it or necro. Hearing the stories about necro I'm really on the fence.
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>>123581428
165-168
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>>123580419
Circle equivalents should be balanced in here as well.

At rank 5 you would have
LinkerC3
PsychoC3
EleC2
ThaumaturgeC2
SorcererC1
ChronomancerC1

All of these things should be relatively balanced, and if anything yo would think that the ones that required you to take specific 1/2 circles before should be better.

KinoC3 - Raise/GP had better target limits maybe I'd consider them worth something. That said kino has the equivalent in Gravity Pole of targets as a C3 lvl 15 Joint Penalty, ALSO has raise.

LinkC3 - 10 targets, 15s CC. This is mostly enough. Lifeline is trash, scaling on SC only needs 5 points anything past is useless. PL literally useless past 5.

EleC2 - 3 or bust Meteor worth.

ThaumaC2 - JointP/Body have same targets at 5 this gives you more, Reversei seems trash. Swell Right seems good though

SorcC1 - OP, plsnerf TS

ChronoC1 - Fix bugs, CDs too high, skills shit. Make Quicken much stronger, lower Reincarnate CD. Perhaps also raise attribute to be better.
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>>123575051
>quests give at best about 15 cards every 3 levels
>that's about 1 level from lv8 cards
>you need 2 more to unlock next quest

wew lad, that "management" though
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>>123581428
Assuming you've gotten every single level 7 and 8 card possible and maybe some level 6, you can get to rank 6 at about 162-164.
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>>123581006
What server? I'm on Laima and will be alch today.
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http://strawpoll.me/6115767
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>>123581690
Gambino
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Templeshooter needs a nerf.
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>>123581672
Less.

I used some lvl 7 cards. I have 113 left, at 162 it's enough for me to hit my goal of 173.

Really what you're looking at though is JOB exp you need lvl 11(or 10 and 90% or something) class to get to 15 with the cards.
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>>123575517
>dont fall for the grind at certain places meme, retard
>you only need to grind at certain places!
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>>123579510
Funny thing is that once you get Rogue C2 and the Backstab set, your farming spot becomes soloing dumb dungeon mobs or elites with 1 Backstab.

I was getting 7-8 mil exp/hr (2x exp event) soloing the 190 dungeon. Each run gave me 2 levels and I hit 200 before even finishing all my quests.
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>>123581890
grinding for 15-20 minutes in a couple of places beats staying at hours in prison.
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>>123578226
The level 6 cards are better than people say they are. Once you start using cards to get to rank 6, 170 or so level 6 cards will give you like 15% of the exp you need. Not as much as the other cards but nothing to sneeze at either.
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Anyone know which mob mithril ore drops?
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>>123582241
I think its from cubes
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>>123582241
Egnomes.
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>>123582695
Really? I've been farming for 1 hour and no mithril ores yet.
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Anyone on Laima want to do 90 dungeon? Need 1 more
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>>123578023
so how'd you build? cleric>priest>bokor3>?
Is b3 even good or are the abilities it gives just eh?
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>>123582695
>>123582770
Nevermind found one. Thanks anon.
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What's the level cap in Korea?
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You can insert { and } into the chat by typing them both at the same time.
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>>123583175
Heard they increased it to 230 recently.
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>>123583175
can you take another pic but showing her back? plz
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>>123583183
kek, php confirmned
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is there any situation where going krivis 3 would be a good idea?
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>>123581428

If you saved up at least 140+ level 7 cards, and most of your level 8 cards, then:

If you only want to hit rank 6, then you can use them at 162~164.

If you want to hit level 200 easily, then use them at 167~168.
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>>123583183
that's it?
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>>123583730
Is that chrono? It's so cute. Here's hoping they buff it.
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>>123583730
>divine stigma
>int/str +75 (SEVENTY-FIVE) on kills

otherwise, not sure. I won't claim to know much about this game yet
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>>123583836
It's open season boys
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>>123583483
When I get back to demon prison
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14 stabbing and 1 spear lunge, or 10 spear lunge and 5 stabbing?
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>>123583183
>>123584007
>>123583836
I don't understand
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>>123583730

i want that hair
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>>123584204
Spear Lunge only ever needs 1 point. Its used for the debuff, its damage doesn't matter.
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>>123572089
Bash knocking people out of AoE doesn't happen because nobody uses Bash.
Snowball is Cryo3's primary offensive power, so they spam that shit whenever it's off cooldown.

>>123573332
That's AoE range, the distance from a hit target that other targets can be hit. It doesn't do anything if you don't hit in the first place.

>>123573286
I kind of suspect Stabbing is bugged and doesn't receive the range bonus from spears in the first place. I've had plenty of fights where my autoattacks were hitting just fine but Stabbing fell short.
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>>123584204
Why would you need 10 spear lunge?
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Reminder that if you are currently serving your time at the 2nd demon prison:

Do yourself a favor and, once you reach level 165, stay there a couple extra hours. You have already spent a lot of hours there, so couple more is not gonna hurt. This however, will guarantee that you will have to do 0 grinding on your way to 200 or struggle to find parties for the dungeons.

In my opinion, it is just faster to grind those extra levels at 2nd Demon Prison. So push it just a little further, get level 167 or 168.

Level 200 will be just a few hours away if you do this.
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>>123569972

lol. they can pull the shit together with the tree. also, if he's a kino, he should be swapping mobs into the ground/zaibas anyway
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>>123584204
15 Stabbing, 15 Pierce, 14 Finestra and 1 Spear lunge.
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>>123584223
it's for ingame memeposting
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>>123584534
Can you get to 17 with +2 from Zega Spear?
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>>123584678
Yes.
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>>123584364
it gets up to +800 damage, and its an overheat skill.

stabbing gains about 240 damage from 5 to 15, and stabbing hits what? like 10 times? so thats 2.4k more per stabbing, with a 40 second cooldown

spear lunge gains about 560 damage from 1 to 10, and its overheat, so thats another 1.1k (unless its a 3 hit overheat instead of 2, i dont have it yet), but its on a 24 second cooldown. so numbers wise its slightly worse, but then it would be easier to get off
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>>123579121
>is there anything a Pyrolinker can't do?
Burst damage
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>>123584534
>14 Finestra
b..but muh crit
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>>123584346
>AoE range, the distance from a hit target that other targets can be hit
What are you talking about? AoE attack ratio stat that Finestra splash gives increases the number of mobs that you can hit at once with an attack or skill. Has nothing to do with range or distance.

Range bonus on spears doesn't seem to do anything from what I've tried. One hand swords and spears have the same exact hit range on auto attacks and skills.
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>>123584365
I am level 145 and still have around 120x lv6 exp cards.
If I manage to save those until I am lv165, can I leave the Prison earlier?
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>>123584998
are you kidding?
swords and spears have way different hitboxes on autoattacks, spears have more forward reach while swords only hit like directly infront of you, it's much easier to hit multiple mobs with a spear.
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When do we get to see Rank 7/8/9 skills?
I want to theorycraft!
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>Everyone and their mother making Hoplites now
I will never be a special snowflake
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>>123585118
That guy is fucking with you and he's wrong in the first place.
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>>123585118
I popped 149 level 7 cards and 100 level 8 cards at 165. Only had to quest in 2 more zones after that to get rank 6 with a few cards spare.
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>>123585118

Not really, they wouldn't be as effective. You should use them to get to 2nd demon prison range faster (around 150+), as exp is a lot faster there than in district 2.

If you are already grinding at 2nd demon prison, then just use them so speed the process a little bit.
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>>123584783
Lunge is Overheat 2, and its debuff affects its own damage.
It isn't as spammable as you're thinking, though, because you're never going to use it except to combo into Stabbing/Pierce, which are on longer cooldowns with no overheat.
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>>123585218
hoplites were the first meme class until they took out centurion and replaced it with fencer
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>>123584365
>>123585118
>>123585280

Don't listen to haters and shitters. You can really get to level 200 easily if you do this.
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>>123585218
It's a swordsman that's actually good and not a meme like highlander/BRbarian
ofcourse people will make it
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>>123585218
you could always become a Sadhu. Of course there are even people jumping on the Sadhu train now but they give up quickly after they realize the class requires you to press three buttons to do things.
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>>123585330
I just stepped into Main Chamber and still haven't got a single lv7 card or lv8 cards. Though I unlocked the quest chain regarding Demon Prison already. Just gonna do Main Chamber questline before I proceed to Prison. I might be lv148 then before I pop my cards and join a 2nd Demon Prison Party.

>>123585561
So you use the remaining lv9 cards purely for class levelling?
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>>123583091
I am cleric -> krivis -> bokor c2 -> monk
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>>123585147
???
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>Demon Prison as archer

Please kill me. Not even Archer 3 or anything.
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>>123585993
are you not a sapper
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>>123585687
sadhu is pretty bad for grind parties though, you really only have zaibas, posession and cure since oob isn't aoe and gets canceled very easily, at least you have daino from the krivis tree to be needed

also for int path clerics the last circle is really lackluster since sadhu c3 sucks and druid is meh and half broken
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>>123586118
I don't even need to do things in grind parties when I have a taunting Berserker overkilling things. Everything is more efficient if I don't kill stuff.
>mfw I just spam heal and watch anime while leeching
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>>123585956
I'm guessing 5~10 attack range is just too insignificant to notice.
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>companion name sounds like a soccer player

EVERY

SINGLE

TIME
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>>123585956
go find an oracle to use that skill that shows hitboxes idiot
works on allies
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>>123586357
>soccer
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I want to make webms of ToS. How?
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>>123586102
go to dina bee farm it's nice for archers

>>123586253
i don't know if you're cleric2 or krivis2 but you should plop your zaibas down on the harugals because they take double lighting damage
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>>123586398
fuck off filthy barBRarian
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>>123586402
record the game and convert to webm
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>>123586402
webm for retards.
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>>123576698
Good tips, I learned something today.
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>>123586102
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>>123585737

Yeah. Personally, I haven't used them just in case we don't get wiped or something, which is highly unlikely, but a man can dream.

You can also do runs of the level 175 dungeon and 190 dungeon to save even more cards, if your gaming time is around reset you can find parties very easy (or instead of saving cards, you don't have to do as many quests if you don't want to).

I also suggest that you focus entirely on grinding 2nd demon prison, don't do quests->demon prison->quests->demon prison, just dedicate your time to finding or creating parties for grinding demon prison. Only do quests when you are really forced to.
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>>123586393
I barely moved half a step and there was no difference in reach. I've tried the sideways reach and there was no difference either.
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do i just sell all these junk weapons i get from bosses? im constantly at max weight.
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Is Joint Penalty: Earth useful for ANYTHING? Earthquake sucks.
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>>123587064
Check market if the weapon is more than 10% NPC price, if not sell it on NPCs.
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>>123587304
catas can make one of their main skills do earth damage instead of strike damage

of course you could just lethargy and make them do double damage with the strike version instead.. so i guess it is useless
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Anyone else lagging like a third-worlder?
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>>123584365
The only reason you ever need to grind there is because you fucked up and used your exp cards early and got to 16x with no cards left and need to grind to 175
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>>123586876
If 10 Attack Range is shit, am I crazy to also think that 4 Move Speed is also shit?
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>>123587304

Another victim of the cata meme.
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>>123588035
No, you're still stupid.
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>>123588035
4 movement speed is like 13% faster than the base movement speed.
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>>123588035
4 move speed makes you move more than 10% faster, i can tell a huge difference when mounted or not

though maybe the boots you are talking about? i dont know if they work or not
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>>123588035
I only tried it with 5 attack range on a one hand spear. We need a cataphract to test 10 attack range.
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>>123587721
As a third worlder I'm not lagging at all
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>>123586402
just go the lazy way and upload the whole video to some website
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>Day 42: I have successfully infiltrated their ranks and gained their trust.
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>>123587064
If its not blue its not worth anything, when you reach 120 weapons then pay attention to the market
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>>123586580
Not that Anon but literally ONLY americans call it soccer, idiot.

Source: Not a fucking idiot, even though I'm American.
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>>123588749
They guy is stupider than a br, don't waste your breath
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>>123587304
There are less than 5 skills that do this and they're all pretty much trash, skip this attribute unless you have nothing else to put points into.
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>>123586752
>archerc2>hunterc3

And you were making fun if sappers not so long ago
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>>123587547
I'm pretty confident that skill also breaks links, so it's worthless.
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>>123589195
almost all damage oriented skills that have a knockback component have an attribute to remove it. shitters just dont use it
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>>123589450
Ah right, earthquake (cata ver) did have suck an attribute now that I think of it.
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>>123589450
>punji stake's attribute isn't sticking enemies in place when activated
feels bad
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>>123581690
How much will you jew me for awakenings?
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so whats the most optimal way to level from 140 to 200?
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>>123590112
Farm the Giant Red Kepa.
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Are there any 1handed sword upgrades over Velniup that aren't Trinity and that one red 1handed sword that isn't in the beta?
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OK. I've slightly reworked my release-game build. I would go ahead and try it now but I know I wouldn't make it far enough and just feel bored doing the same thing twice.

Bokor3 seems eh so I've given myself another Paladin circle. Apparently a ton of monsters are Devil/Mutant and Turn Undead is actually good. Also I hear the Demon Prison is a really tough grind and I imagine that will help a ton.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/of6te8mrue/
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>>123589884
State a price and we can mostly work something out.

I was considering 200k if you want me to run it, I do need to do some runs myself for my own gear (Arde, Scale Boots, find a good rod awakening, etc)

200k is only because you're from /vg/, I'd be doing 250k standard.

If it's a lvl 170 equip with many stars the price would go up because of the time investment to 250k (standard 300k).
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>>123590316
>release game build
>when the whole game will be changed

kekmao
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>>123590316
Garbage.

Go Priest3 it's antinerf.
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>>123590112
Consensus seems to be 140-155 Demon Prison, 155-165 2nd Demon Prison then use cards.
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Anyone doing awakening on Gab?
Will pay 500k
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>>123590316
>priest 2
literally why?
at least get krivis for zaibas to carry you out of bokor 1
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>>123590323
Truly, jew prices. Scale boots/elder rod etc only take about 5-7 minutes to do, arde takes about 15 but you could sit afk and make potions while the other guy kills everything because they're like level 20.
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>>123590271
pls respond senpaitachis
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>>123590316
>this build

ayy

also last time i checked tu didnt give exp
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>>123590717
are you just a poor BR or is 250k actually much at that server ?
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>>123590398
just a general idea, I'll obviously be touching up on it

>>123590454
Do you think Bokor2 will be enough damage for me to solo grind without having Paladin's help?

>>123590672
I'm not Priest 2 in this build though???
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>>123590864
It was more I paid less than that total for awakenings of multiple items.
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>>123590112
Grind 10 levels do quests to not waste boss exp grind more quest more then use all cards at 165
>>123590717
How about karacha and conqueror?
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At level 175 should I stop questing and do the dungeon? Or is it not worth it?
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>>123590316
isn't the Zombie choochoo train the only reason to go Bokor?
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>>123590876
priest for rank 2
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>>123585956
>>123588035
>>123588265
So we tried out 10 attack range a bit. There's just a very slight attack reach difference between 5 range and 10 range. Its like 1 step or less, barely even noticeable. No visible difference between 0 range and 5 range. In other words, it does fucking nothing and is just a shit stat.
Swordsman do seem to have an innate larger attack range than clerics though. Difference is huge.
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I took a look at the awakening spreadsheet but I don't understand. What effect does an awakened elder rod have?
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>>123591040
No idea, I don't have them. They're probably level 200 enemies though, and would presumably take a while to do. arde dagger took the longest of the things I had awakened, even though the enemies within it were pitifully weak.
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>>123591157
61 fire attack.
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>>123591194
Oh that makes sense thank
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>>123591157
like small arde
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>>123590316
That is one of the worst builds I've seen here, and I've seen retards post plenty of shitty builds here.
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>>123591157
+61 fire attack, so something akin to just over a third of an arde dagger in your main slot.

For reference, what rod you use is basically irrelevant as a summoner, since your magic attack is not taken into account for summon damage, only INT.
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>>123591040
My first character I grinded to 165 then went back to do all those lower level quests for huge exp penalty. Retard/10 would not do again.
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>>123591501
I did exactly that and turned out fine. I'm level 175 now and have plenty of quests left to do.
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>>123590634
pls
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How does Magnum Opus work?
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how's necromancer
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>>123591782
I feel you, I've been trying to get something awakened forever.
Now I doubt I'll get it before the beta is over.
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>>123591043
All I see when there's a bokor on the map
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>>123591782
what items ? ur name ?
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>>123591953
Karacha Dagger, Seria
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What's the awakening for Scale Boots?
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Reminder: do not trust the godesses

>>123591369
I quick swap to Arch Rod (+11 INT) before swapping back to Elder Rod when I use Summoning. It's something!
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>>123588972
I did not such thing. Sappers are among the best Archers.
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>>123592112
OP Int

>>123592072
ahh that one will take a while, but ok
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I have a really bad premonition for future mobs because of this skill.

http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/40808/
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>>123590717
You do realize the CD is liek 30minutes and I have my own stuff to do or could be using that CD to sell stuff for much more, right?

You have a problem with it go find another alchemist, 250k is nothing, I make 300k/hr without too much trouble, the dungeon is meant to add to my income which is part of the reason I'm doing this.

Even the guy who jewed down prices to like 100k/free in some cases doesn't do it anymore. You ever wonder why? It's not profitable and was a waste of his time to go alchemist instead of almost anything else to do so.

Don't even get me started on the fact opportunity cost lost from doing pots instead as well.
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>>123591068
what else would I go? Krivis seems lame and like I would only ever use the lightning spell early on and then become useless
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>>123592217
I should probably get all of these huh

how well do they scale into lategame, I assume they proc on the oob on my sadhu
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>>123592282
im alche and support your post. but its 10min CD
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>>123592384
Bokor is shit, Zaibas scales extraordinarily well with INT and the scaling improves with each successive circle of Krivis, and Priest into Bokor is retarded. Don't know what you're thinking with Paladin afterward.
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>>123591041
175 dungeon is good. Only 160 dungeon is bad but only because it's pretty much just a merc mission.
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>>123591043
you mean Bwa Kayiman? That seems really awful, is it any good?

>>123592494
I've only heard that Bokor is like, nearly broken. Everything I've seen and read has just been a single person clearing out entire rooms with no effort
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>>123590323
Well 250k is the standard price so at least you're not a mega jew, I might hit you up sometime.
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>>123592282
>>123592478
where you senpaitachi at? i'm in laima and i want these awakened
-arde dagger
-elder rod
-grima pants
-forest robe
-scable boots

give me a price
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>>123592427
Sorry senpai I think they don't.
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>>123592623
Bwa Kayiman is the sole redeeming factor Bokor has and everything else is shit.
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>>123592623
Bwa Kayiman is the best skill in the game for grinding. Absolutely nothing beats it.
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>>123592282
So you don't think in the final game that basically everybody will have an alch, and your awakening jewing will only really be relevant if you're one of the first people to reach it? That's if they even keep the awakening potentials the same as they are right now.
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>>123592738
>>123592739
What does it...do? The skill video makes it look horrible. What's so good about it?
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>>123585169
Don't worry anon, there'll be plenty of time to theorycraft inbetween betas when we won't be able to play.
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>>123592854
10 second patk based damage per second zombie train with no cd. zombies follow you and they have your running speed.
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>>123592713
Wew it really doesn't, just tested with my arde dagger
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>>123592614
It is a merc mission, check the fucking /indun.
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>>123592854
It lets you just run around rooms with 10+ zombies trailing behind you hitting every single mob for around 1k damage. You will clear out rooms in a few seconds and force out any parties because you just grab the attention of every single monster and kill them fast.
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>>123592971
10s cd. sorry.
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This shit really has way too much HP to try soloing doesn't it.
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>>123592989
>>123592713
Nevermind, it does work

I unequipped it during the oob itself which didn't seem to recalculate the damage

Guess I'm buying all of these
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>>123593102
Hahah, shit man. World boss or quest boss? last time even with 15+ level 130+ people it took around 30 minutes, not before it crashed twice. Its still alive? I might go help if its in laima.
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>>123592478
Ah, thanks, didn't want to look it up.

>>123592705
I got no qualms with other person posting taking it if he wants to.

Do you want to do the run yourself or have me run it? Together?
Should be able to handle all of those without a problem, same as before 200k each if so. I'm finishing up quests while rolling my cards to job15 so should be another hour (Maybe a few actual hours accounting for dinner and some stuff) before I can start

>>123592823
Even if everyone had an alch (False), that won't change this.

Let me ask you, when repair prices go up to 15k at lvl 120 again like they eventually will and were done on kCBT, do you think squires will sell their services in town for base price? No.
If you want to be the jew like you are being, go ahead and make an alt. There is nothing jewish about a 200k price, it's a cost of time to level the character, a cost of time involved in doing it, high oppurt. cost, etc. List goes on, anyway standard price on jToS is 300k.
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>>123593279
> Wahhhh, I put time into this character so I deserve money give me your money wahhh

You're like all those squires that are trying to sell repairs for ridiculous prices when it takes less than 30 seconds to get to the blacksmith.
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>>123593274
This was a while ago on Zemyna. I was on it for about 5 minutes before I gave up and called out in shout chat, and it still took 20 minutes.

Also I don't think this attack looks quite right.
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>>123593102
That's a world boss.
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>>123592201
Guess I mistook you for someone else. Anyway, do you really think it was worth it going hunter c3 instead of any other archer class after hunter c1?
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>>123593481
Then don't use them you jewnose.

It's no skin off my back if you don't buy my awakenings, I literally give no fucks. Like I said I can get more money farming even now.
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>>123593279
I have a question concerning Awakening.
So you'll great a dungeon for that particular item.
If it's a weapon, I'll need to deequip it so I need to enter the dungeon with another weapon to fight?
Also the level of the enemies are depending on the item level, right?
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>>123592201
Are you going falconer?
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>>123593661
You need to give it to the alchemist to awaken it.
Yes.
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>>123593661
yep
monster/boss lvl and number of spawns depend on ItemLevel+ItemStars+ItemColor
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>>123593279
Can you give me some discount if I run it by myself and you AFK or we run it together?

I don't have 1m, but I might have other goods you might be interested in (Templeshooter card).
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>>123592427
they are really fine for me at 200. Pyro3,Link (and my low lvl ranger)

should be ok for most other classes but duno there skills. these items are like memedaggers
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>>123583483
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Now that the beta's almost over, what cleric build should I try?

Cleric -> Krivis -> Cleric -> Sadhu
Cleric -> Krivis -> Priest x2 -> Monk/Paladin
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>>123594394
I expected more ass
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I wish there were less ranks and more choices of class per rank. It's fine as is now but when further ranks are added it will make the lower tier ones feel pointless and as more of a stepping stone than part of your build.
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>>123594484
Something more unique.
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>>123594484
what's the point of trying builds that are already proven to be good?
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What is the point of going bokor? Yes you're good at prison grind but why even make one? You're rubbish at killing world bosses. You suffer through bokor1 pay millions in attributes just to be good at grinding demon prison then be more useless than a thighlander goodjob.
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>>123583384
The level caps in Korea are currently Level 220, Rank 6.
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when i use a +n weapon with some gems inserted for a recipe, do i lose all those bonus shit?
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So what are the skills that pardoners can sell at their spell shop? Is paladins resist element included?
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>>123594775
>>123594707

Because I've never played Cleric before and I want to see what a decent one is like?

Everyone's already tried out the gimmicky builds anyway.
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Do Sadhu scale with Physical and Magic attack? If they do, does that mean Thaumaturges make their damage super high?
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>>123594657
They might add more choices later on nobody said they won't
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>>123594784
It's good for grinding/farming mats and some menial tasks. The movement speed buff is good for boss rushes and Mackangal + safety zone makes you invulnerable for 15 seconds.
Hexing debuff is good if your party is wizards/sadhu.
You can make stationary hitting zombies with cure + bwa kayiman and unlimited zombies with cure.
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Oh no, she's retarded
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>tfw 70ish
>losing a lot of steam on playing ToS
>want to get back in
>really want to see cap
>lose motivation because Paladin is not as impressive as i imagined it
What do /vg/, what do!?
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What skills are actually good if I plan to go Cryo C3 with Psycho C2 maybe? Might only take C1 Psycho and fit Thaum in there
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>>123595180
reroll into Br
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>3 level 200 party ganging on boss
Fuck, how can I get some.
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>>123595180
Wait until open beta, what else?
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>>123595180
You don't enjoy being a walking hp/sp pot?
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>>123595180
did you mean 170?
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>>123593279
please respond >>123594306
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What exactly does back masking affect? Does it reset my cooldowns? Respawn enemies? Undo failed upgrades?
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>>123592217
Do me next, just a scale mail and grima pants
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>>123595761
>Do me next
that`s lewd anon

but ok, name plz
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>>123593541
Growling and Rush Dog 15 make it worth the ranks. A single rank in hunter is pretty good, and would fit pretty much any Archer class, but I rally wanted to try out Growling.

Pairing Hunter with Sapper would probably be a better all-around build. Maybe Hunter with Scout for PvP.
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Does this build actually make sense?

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/us209nt8e7/
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>>123592427
They work on every single damage number that pops up no matter if it's an auto attack or a skill/spell
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>>123596165
>Taking Krivis
>No Zaibas

Nigga, You need to play the game.
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>>123596027
reewind
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Selling spare keys on lamia. 1 million.
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What barb skills should I get for a sword2 barb2 corsair2 and what stats?
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>>123596027
Police
when you're done with the first guy pm me.
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Is there actually a silver exploit, or is it just an 'in joke'?
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>>123596505
doesn't exist
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>>123596907
How else are you going to explain someone having a +32 item?
that's like 20 million alone assuming he got that far on the first try
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>>123596647
Aren't keys untradeable?
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>>123596959
i'm in laima
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>>123576693
You run around in little circle
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>>123597087
He meant beta keys. Some people are still desperate for one.
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>>123596505
Aren't you on Laima? I can try to get a friend to help you later (4+ hours) if you are. I'd do it now but my ISP's being special
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>>123597150
oh, im at Gabi
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>>123597293
fug
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>>123597046
He failed 10 times so thats probably another 5 million, assuming its still 500k per upgrade when he failed
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>>123596449
Imma auto attack until rank 5
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>>123597187
okay
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>>123596907
Its true some sorc a couple weeks back posted money, attributes and money with market open
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>>123597557
Good luck with that
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>>123590323
Could you drop your name here or what channel you're currently on? so I can drop by with a spiked crossbow sometime.
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>>123596449
But I wanted to play a healer, not a DPS. Stop judging me.
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why do we get such little storage

fuck these gooks
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>>123597879
Oh that's a strong meme
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>>123595284
You just need to get within a certain damage threshold, get a party
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>>123594784

pvp.

you have all the cleric's bullshit and you can hex ppl and the doll with effigy.

effigy has no cooldown and hurts a lot.
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>>123597557
Have fun anon.
You should have gone priest if you're going autoattack
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>>123597879
Should have gone Krivis/Priest then
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>>123597879
So why would you go Monk if you wanted to play a healer...?
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>>123597879
>but I want to play healer
>there's like two fucking healing spells in the game and you skipped the class that gives it to you
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>>123597879
>I wanted to play a healer and not a DPS
>proceeds to take a half support and a DPS class
Come on now.
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>>123598116
I was in a party. canceril got killed fucking fast too.
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>tfw reached level 200 but not class level 15
The ride doesn't fucking end.
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I'm playing a kneeling sapper, archer c2, sapper c2 currently. I'm wondering if I should have one rank in hunter for the auto rush dog dps in between broom traps or just stick with sapper to c3 then grab reiter. Rogue doesn't interest me that much. Thoughts?
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>>123599303
Hunter's rush dog would be wasted on reiter since you'll be mounting it.
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>>123599543
Yeah, which is why I have to choose either

hunter c1 + something else
or
something else + reiter c1
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>>123599543
Hunter's everything would be wasted on reiter, to be fair.
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I wonder if there will be a class that is entirely based around silver as a resource. We already have alchemist's attack using items/silver and god finger flicking using it.
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>>123599667
>>123599543
Hunter is wasted on anything, needs to be removed.
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what does this actually do? should i get at least firewall lv1 for this attribute?
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>>123599906
That one anon that took a circle or two of hunter keeps saying how good it is though. Even if Hunter's damage wasn't great shouldn't it still be good since it allows your damage to come from your pet as well, meaning a class with better attacks taken later wouldn't lessen the effectiveness of that rank?
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can you awaken multiple items at the same time?
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>>123594394
How are you getting ultrazoom? or are you just zooming in normally and then doublesizing it?
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>>123600103

Adds 25 Fire Damage, same type as Arde Dagger (ie, not an extra line).

Its worthless.
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>>123600275
nope. and the skill has 10min CD
>>123600103
+25 fire dmg if you/ppl are inside wall, for only 5 sec

guess its not bad but i dont use that skill at all. really dont like it. and 25 fire isnt that much
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>>123600275
No.
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>>123600470
it says 5 seconds per attribute, so at max level shouldn't it be 25 seconds?
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>>123600695
hmm i think it was 5sec. but i removed that skill like 2 weeks ago. not sure atm
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Is Hoplite C3 good if I'm going Doppel as rank 6?
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>>123600695
no, it says "for 5 seconds by 5 per level"
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>swordsman 3>rodolero 1

did i just find the maddest man alive?
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>>123600869
It's fine.
good crits and deeds amp up your damage hard.
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I only just noticed Mushcaria is growing out of the corpse of a dead turtle. Spooky.
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So i was doing the quests at the cliff after getting my Desert Chupacabra Ears, killed the boss, got the "Chest", i think there was nothing inside, the portal was still up but i couldn't get in, there's no more quests to keep doing, i got into the chapel but can't find any NPCs, what should i do? Im like lvl 80
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>>123601112
I saw a sword3 grinding prison yesterday.

That's it. Just sword3. No other class.
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>>123601270
Isn't that just part of its body? I thought that's why it was named mush carrier
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>>123596165
>>123596449
This is the kind of faggots you can see in 50 90 dungeon these days.
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>>123600989
oh, then i guess enchant fire fire debuff attribute only lasts for 5 seconds as well at max level?

that's really shitty
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Managed to get my own dream set, how am I looking?
>51 CON
My toaster won't let me alive for much time, should I just put everything into INT anyway?
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>>123601419
wat
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>>123601709
He's aiming to go Super Swordsman at level 200
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>>123601465
it's a fucking parasite that killed its host. just like parasect's mushroom on its back
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>>123594306
Sorry was off doing some stuff, if you want to run it yourself yeah I can give you a discount, that's no problem.

Not sure how you're so poor as it is though, that's kind of weird.

>>123597853
My name ingame is Batman, feel free to whisper me.
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>>123600186
The problem is your pet scales badly the higher you go, plus half the skills dont even function properly/dont work on bosses
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Is the description for that Summon Familiar trait that gives your bats sometimes splash damage bugged or does it really cap at a measly 5%? Feels like it should be 10% per level and cap at 50% instead...
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>>123601709
>>123601419
probably just proving how easy this game is with an autoattack build
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>>123601419
i want to see someone go r1 to 200 like they are a fucking 99/10 novice
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>>123601704
are the gloves really worth it
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>>123590316

Dat's a bretty gud bild. You schuld drei it. :DD
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>went cata

Jesus, I knew it wasn't the best class to take but I didn't think it was this horrible.
>>
Has there been any mention of any pvp, other then the battle arena system currently in place?
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>>123601875
Oh its you. I remember you asking for someone to party with in the thread ages ago but I was too high level to roll with you, grats on making R6.
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Ok guys, here's my problem. i can't decide my r6 class.

i'm a cryo c3 psychokino c1. desu i'm in complete love with my build but i really don't know what to do in r6.

tl;dr: i don't like sorcerer/necro/alchemist and i want to try psychokino c2.

alchemist seems meh, i already got all the awakened stuff that i want and i don't care about money anymore and i don't like sorcerer / necro in any way

so we have these options:

>wizard c2

surespell seems a good thing to have if they keep this nerf (or bug) of the reflect shield, but i don't know if surespell works with pressure's channeling.


>thaumaturge

swell left arm alone with the maxed attrib means a lot of matk, making my pressure+icewall meme combo stronger, party members stronger and etc, but the other skills are not that great.

>linker:

the most useful '1 circle wonder' wizard class that this game has to offer. overpowered utility, but it's my least favored option. but yeah, i agree, that must be the strongest option.

>pyromancer

one circle of pyromancer makes no sense at all but it's not that bad if you consider the synergy of frost pillar + flame ground and fireball + snowrolling.

>elementalist

no memeteor = no fun. other spells are garbage tier

>chronomancer

quicken not working (only gives critical), other skills are meh since i have lot's of cc already.

>psychokino c2

my favorite option atm. psychic pressure gains a new attrib at r2: 50% stun chance, swap and teleport from c1 are already strong (but extra levels on swap are cool for party play), stronger telekinisis has some uses but the skill thar bothers me is this one:

MAGNETIC FORCE.
anyone here ever tried c2 psychokino to tell me how good/bad this is? is there a limit of mobs? the damage is that bad as it seems? pulling things together i not really a problem since i have frost pillar anyway.
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Nuoridin Falls is the worst area I have experienced in this game so far.
Wendigo Searchers are hell.
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>>123601704
meme'd up and ready 2 go
now you just need 2 wizard bracelets and a max petamion or awakened superior ritual necklace
>>
am i going to wear boob fighter gloves forever?
>>
Sleep vs Stone Curse

which is better?
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>>123602512
What does the ritual neck give?
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>>123602461
Get ready for Lizard man Magicians in the next area
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>>123602350

Another victim of the cata meme.

C'mon anons, we can help preventing this. Stop the memes.
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Who else rolling Archer again, in OBT?
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>>123602376
Ah, yeah I was, I hate prison tileset so I spent too long there by only doing 2-3 hours a day. Thanks.
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>>123602429
C2 Psycho has the stun attribute so it's pretty good.
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>>123602643
+15 dark damage
i THINK it's the best for wizards, at least
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>>123601704
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>>123601595
Yep. It's fucking worthless.
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>>123602732
I will after I fund it with a good class.
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>>123602429
How's the damage on psychic pressure?
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>>123602278
You get the gloves for the sp regen rate more than anything as a sorc.

>>123602765
>15 dark damage
>better than 14 in every stat
Just no.
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>>123602765
sounds really good
but Peta or Max Peta should be better, if you can get / use them
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so how much does 1 rank of hunter boost your pet?

lolipantsu wu@
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>>123603021
>14 in INT which gives less damage than 15 dark damage
>14 in a bunch of other stats that do absolutely nothing for mages, and SPR which is an active hindrance for some classes
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>>123602429
I think Magnetic Force can be resisted

go Pyromancer, flaming snowballs sounds funny
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>>123603131
14 INT + 14 CON + 14 SPR = 42
you can reset, get 14 less con/spr and have same values as before. put these points into INT
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>>123602732
I will.
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>>123602713
I'm going cata too!
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>>123602927

psychic pressure dmg is great, hit's 5 mobs, it does something like 7 hits/sec, so it becomes stronger and stronger with lots of int and memegear
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>>123603131
CON and SPR is useless
Nice meme.
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>Make a Krivis
>Man Zaibas can't be as good as these people are saying
>Try it out
>Utterly destroying everything

Man what a spell
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>>123602429
I'm can tell you that Thaum+icewall is terrifying. I accidentally sold my staff around when I first got thaum, and was too lazy to get a new one. So no icewalling until I had swell left arm to about this point and got the dagger.
The difference was unbelievable. Where icewalls used to take down just a decent chunk of boss health even when linked, they are now sometimes outright killing the boss.

That said, this pretty much requires linker to work, but I don't know how pressure works so maybe that will cover the issue.
Linker would be slightly stronger than Thaum, but both are good options. Just go Kino 2 though, it's all getting wiped anyway so have fun. Who cares.
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>>123603131
Yet that dark attribute will do effectively nothing for your summons if you're a sorc. They scale purely off of int, and guess what? even if you have no weapon or arde dagger equipped, they'll do the same damage.
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>>123603280
Not involved, but thank you for being one of the few people to fucking acknowledge doing this
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>>123602278
Bought mine for 400k, so no complaints here.
SP Recovery is pretty nice and there's nothing that much better anyway.

>>123602856
>>123602512
Thanks, I'll see how far my wallet can go, no way I'm paying 2,5m/ea for wizard bracelet.

I could just get this awakened neck right now but Max Peta seems much better for Sorc/Necro or any class anyway, I'll just save my funds.
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Why are the summons so small? I'm starting to regret my choice if this is what I get
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>>123603126
Standard 100-200 damage would turn to 800-1000 then 1.4-1.6k crit depending on your pet's level on rushdog
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>>123603457
Honestly I'd probably go Thaum if the HULK HANDS weren't kind offputting. The outfit is so cute too.

Can you shrink people in PVP?
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>>123603628
summons get bigger when you put more points into summoning
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>>123603280
>>123603394
>>123603469
it's also several million silver cheaper and takes about 5 minutes to get instead of several days

>>123603547
>>123603615
o ya i guess petamion is better for sorc i didnt realize you were one
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>>123603650
damn, do the pets stats get better with more ranks or just the 1st?
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>>123603410
I love Zaibas, and it's fucking amazing when you first get it, however:
>Lightning resist mobs
>EVERYWHERE
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>>123603663
>offputting
also go thaum c3 for BIG HEADS
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>>123603703
well at max or high lvl you want the best gear/stats. and cash isn't that hard to get
at lower lvls (need 120 or 170 to even use a Peta) that one is prolly really nice
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>>123603736
It'd get to 2-3k at most at Hunter c3. Stats just increases by a couple of points per level, you can buy them but it gets really expensive
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>>123602732
I will, definitely
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>>123603663
I thought the same but they're hardly noticeable. This is when you're in stationary stance facing the camera too. It's even less noticeable when you're attacking or running around.
The only time I've really seen it is when I buff a Sadbu because they stick their hands out and spread their fingers, so they look a bit ridiculous.

I'm pretty sure you can shrink people, I haven't done many duels though. Swell Body is a huge selling point, I'll say that. I've doubled the drop of some valuable recipes, bloodstones, materials I needed, etc. That isn't to mention the extra experience. You're going to actually need the damage to back you up though, since it doubles the monster's health it's a real gamble if you can kill them before the buff expires. One thing of note is that shrink body sometimes refills the monster's health and I have no idea why. I don't think it's halving it like you'd think it could be, and it only happens maybe 70% of the time so I doubt it's intentional.
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>>123599878
fletcher
>>
Anybody on Gabi willing to sell an Arde Dagger for 400k?
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>>123602350
cata has a bad ass outfit, probably only reason to pick it
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>>123604169
Can't you just get a monster to low health and then swell? Or does it replenishes the mob's health?
Great way to fuck people over in maps with strong ass mage/archer monsters lel
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>>123601270
holy fuck
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>>123603410
when you get krivis c2 remember to go get the splash attribute
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Archer3 > Scout > Rogue2 viable?
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>>123603628
can you make a webm of the summon stats before you inevitably discard them?

>>123603703
The meme set that includes scale boots is basically for casting classes, and put bluntly it doesn't matter what class you are, a max petamion will benefit you more than the alternative even if it is dicks to obtain.
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>>123566087
>new client
what
is this why my patcher always crashed?
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>>123604461
I'm contemplating between going Sadhu or Paladin.

I heard that Monk was underwhelming so I didn't bother.
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>>123604169
iirc swell body doubles a mob's health, and then after a tick heals them for the amount of health added
it's weird
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>>123604517
it works on other classes really nice too
replace boots with pic

my ranger alt isnt 75 yet and i dont feel like lvling it now but should be alright with them
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>>123604592
To be fair paladin's not too much better, monk or sadhu would probably make bette use of a c2 kriv line
>>
>Someone here said cure makes zombies glitch out and let you afk grind better
>Go reset skills and use cure
>Use cure and see it do 600 damage every hit since I'm a high level and have an arde dagger
>I only have 1 point in cure right now and it does just as much if not more than zaibas
I should have gone cleric c2.
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>>123604382
It's finicky. What usually happens is that if a monster has 100 health and you get it to 20 then swell, it will have 120/200 health. As in, it will actually give the monster the extra health rather than just increase its max.
My damage is all coming from cryo 1 so you have a lot more damage than me, but I can almost never kill something I swell unless I can link and hangman a few mobs in with it. So I need linker to multiply the damage I'm dealing with ice pike and what not. Again, you might not need that.
Something to remember is if you got that monster to 120/200 health then for some reason only took off 20 health from it, when the swell ends it will be back to 100/100. If you took 30 off it will be 90/100.

Beta anon, just do what's fun.

>>123604635
I've never killed a monster before that "tick", but I also only have attacks with a decent delay. I've heard that's how it works too, but you'd probably need to specifically build for it to really take much advantage of it.
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>>123604464
>archer3

could have just stopped there
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>>123602429
Did you rush C3 Cryo or get Kino in C2?
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>>123604464
Multishot doesn't work with sneak hit. Take classes with instant cast skill like Ranger
>>
Does enchant fire's fire property attack damage stack with Pyro's fire spells?
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>>123604901
C2 Kriv -> C1 Priest -> Monk
C2 Kriv -> Sadhu

What's better? C2 Priest really doesn't sound like it'd help that much outside of Blessing which is bound to scale like shit in the end.
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>>123605004

Ah, any viable replacements for archer3 then? I can't think of anything. Ranger and Sapper seems lackluster if left in circle 1.
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>>123604464
If you're going Rogue, you either take Ranger 3 or Sapper 2.
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>>123605569
Why do you want scout?
>>
is it still worth using bash and thrust on my Hoplite?
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>>123605492
havent touched sadhu yet so i cant really make a fair comparison there, far as monk goes thats probably a good route, as when you do hit monk, the bless/sac buffs start falling off prety bad. C2-3 priest works better for pally since a good chink of their damage will be from smites/auto's
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>make a new character
>archer
>in 10 mins overkilling shit with oblique (I know I wouldn't have that joy later on) I reach class lvl 15
>ok
>become ranger after rushing to the mines
Jesus, barrage seems so good, I don't know if it's because I'm still so early into the game, or if it's because of the increased exp. This has been really easy modo so far
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>>123605654

I find the utility skills interesting unless someone tells me its shit then I can change into something else.
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>>123605632
Why?

Seriously asking.
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>>123596061
I been thinking archer>QS>hunter2>rogue2 would be a pretty strong pvp character, QS can stun, hunter gives you that fetch skill or whatever the name is, and rogue has backstabs

what do you think about it? would I be gimping my grinding by picking this?
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>>123605989
Rogue has no AOE, Ranger C3 or Sapper C2 give you enormous amounts of AOE
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>>123605989
They have the best forms of AoE in the Archer tree and helps offset the incredibly underwhelming nature of Rogue C1.
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>>123605928
Archer is really good early on and you will get insane exp right now overkilling everything. Multishot still destroys bosses early on too, and you'll be over leveled for most quests so yeah, you're gonna fly through content.
>>
how much does Earth Boots sell for?
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>>123605928
The 'archer is bad' meme is kind of overdone, they aren't necessarily bad, it's just that none of their choices really excel in ways the jobs of other base classes do.
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>>123605989
Ranger for instant cast burst damage to take advantage of sneak hit. Sneak hit only works for when you're enemies have their backs on you
>>
anyone have a link to the latest korean client?
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>>123606107
>>123606132
>>123606193
Thanks
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>>123605928
>mfw no face going hunter to see if the pet thingy is good or shit just like I see posted around.
Sheit.Shoulda try ranger too.
>>
I'm tired of my main and the alt I leveled stopped being interesting.

I want to try out thaum, cryo/psycho, oracle and druid
I should probably just get some oracle to make videos because it seems to be nerfed to fuck

I guess I can roll two wizards and I don't actually need to get them to r5 even

That leaves druid, but I have no idea of a good build.

diev3 sounds like it has good synergy but carve has a giant fucking cooldown so it seems like a huge waste when it probably does less damage than zaibas
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>>123606440
>>123606440
new
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>>123604169
HoneyBingo you're pretty swell.
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>>123606520
Oh geez
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>Butt Stroke
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>>123603457
can you make footage of boss kills with thaum walls? I'm interested in seeing it in action.
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>>123606930
I've never made a webm, but sure I'll look into it.
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I used the corner jump trick to heave myself over the ledge and found a treasure chest but it's empty. Is there a secret puzzle to it?
It's in the Residence of the Fallen Legwyn btw.
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>>123602732
I will, back into sapper. hopefully cannoneer whenever that happens
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>>123607203
you have to have a buff to open it
you are boned until it resets at midnight
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>>123607416
godaamnit, a time-dependent secret chest then.
If it's truly midnight then I would have to pull an allnighter.
Please tell me if you know but is the content of the chest worth the trouble?
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>>123607654
it activates like every hour at :00 (the thing that gives you the buff)
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>>123607654
I don't know if its randon but the flower branch thing is in it
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>>123607654
You only need to go to the gravity field at exactly :00 which is every hour.
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>>123607654
you can only attempt to open the chest once a day
you tried
you are fucked until it resets at midnight
>>
Anyone grinding at demon prison 2?
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>>123605492
for monk it's best to go cleric>priest3>monk>monk, the only good thing in the krivis tree is zalciai for the crit while priest has blessing, aspersion, sacrament and stone skin

for sadhu it's best to go either cleric2>kriv>sadhu2>druid or cleric>kriv2>sadhu2>druid depending whether you want fade and the cure attribute or zaibas splash
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>>123604840
Yea, which is why I explicitly included "that includes scale boots". Priest for example will not benefit from the meme set at all, because cafrisun is better for pure auto.
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>>123601270
Jesus christ
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