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>>123289959
FIRST FOR ANIME AND PLANES

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First for, not even motivated enough to troll anyone, since having an intense wargame experience will never happen.

Real old thread:
>>122819220

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DID SOMEONE ASK FOR PLANES?

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5th for Furrys, Anime & Wehraboo posting

6th for Su-24 a shit

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>>123290525
BECAUSE I SURE GOT THEM

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>>123288157
>li jian in helo
I put them in a WZ now, but why would it be a problem to bring them in a helo?

>zhanshi
I had some doubt about this unit when I was picking it, switched for Lu Zhandui

>pgz-80
>no pgz-95
I'm afraid of using RAD AA as my bread and butter. They get so easily sniped.

>upvetting mortarts
I down-vetted them, but I'm not sure why I shouldn't vet them.

>no ztq-62g
Why take such an expensive unit for recon? In my case recon units are the most to die.

>not putting the lie ren in z-9a or wizzy
I thought it was too expensive.

>no ptz-89
Didn't know what to take for VHC anyway, so I guess this is a good enough suggestion.

>no j-7h
>no jh-7
>no q-5d
Which aircraft should I replace to add these? I know very little about aviation in RD.

So this is what the deck is looking like now.

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>>123290598
Now this is concentrated cancer right there.

>>123290869
>heliborne infantry
Transport helicopters are the most dangerous and the least sneaky mean of transportation.
>radar aa
l2hotkey
>mortars
So you get more of them, as the vet bonus are exceedingly minor.
>ztq-62g
It's a tank that can see and being a recon vehicle, has medium stealth.
>planes
Since the j-8c is not elite, it's not worth it. I don't remember the loadout of the j-5 and j-811b but they're certainly not as good as guided bombs, atgm and 1mg bombs.

>>123290869
>why would it be a problem to bring them in a helo?
Li Jian are anti-infantry specialists. You bring them when you want to murder nontrivial amounts of infantry. This usually means enemy entrenched positions, and helos are terrible at bringing infantry to fronts with even minimal AA, which an entrenched position will have.

Helo infantry is used for seizing positions at the start of the game, for reinforcing pushes behind enemy lines, or for quick reaction defense. Li Jian 90 are unsuitable for all of these because they lack an RPG.

>>123290869
>zbd-86

>>123292425
How does one go about taking out anti-infantry specialists?

>>123292602
Drive a transport or tank into them, they don't have an RPG so they can't deal with vehicles effectively. That's why they're not useful for taking cities at the start of the game or panic defense, there's no point dropping them into a city if the enemy will just drive through and murder them with no risk to his vehicles or even a need to stop.

To the anon who was looking for it earlier, here's the CMANO torrent magnet

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:80E10AC602B5BB7C86D53021FD4082DC7FCAADCB&dn=CommandModernAirNavalOperations&tr=http%3a%2f%2fbt.rutracker.org%2fann%3fuk%3dcghmZgbUr6&tr=http%3a%2f%2fretracker.local%2fannounce

make sure to run both the crack and the installer as admin so they can work.

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stopping the holocaust was a mistake

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Map #2 progress. 60-70%ish done

>>123293169
The crack also works on current updates too so I'm pretty comfy with 1.09 and Northern Inferno

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now that helicopters are rare and plane IR has improved, what's the role of the PUFF?

>>123297297
Enjoy your backdoors

>>123297297

The crack also works on Matrix's other game Distant Worlds: Universe.

That's supposed to be pretty good as well

>>123297413
Helos aren't rarer and Puff is still a monster at stunning them. It's role is the same, every other plane just got less garbage at it.

>>123297413
same thing it has always been, being the cheapest anti radiation missile carrier in the game

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I am building a new Block Party deck, and I want to take a card of engineers, but I dont know which of these fantastic choices to take. Any input would be helpful.

>>123305993
saperzy, they were beastly before the sturm buff, and while they cost a bit more, that 10hp is big

>>123305993
>>123306573
Saperzy work better alone, sturms work better supporting moto spam. Microed sturms can go into an engagament, destroy a comparatively expensive SF squad, then retreat for reload while the motoshutzen play meatshield. Also a slight benefit of the sturms over saperzy is that their HE rockets can stun and scare off transports that would normally be free to just mow them down.

>>123307341
Actually another reason I was voting for the flamethrowers is that they tend to do better vs transports, trying to chase them with transports usually ends up in chainstun and getting stuck in the napalm.

Haven't played Red Dragon in ages, game still worth playing?

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>>123290691
Planes you say?

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>>123290525
>>123290691
>>123308863

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T-34

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F-5

>>123313682
its funnier when you don't have mig21 in the file name you electric salt dispenser.

So i was just trying out the T-55AM2 (the polish one). 55% accuracy for a 50pt NSWP tank is outstanding, and it also has 2275m range and decent FAV (10) and AP (15). 7rof is almost a deal breaker, but them seemed to do well enough ingame.

>>123314503
what the fuck is an electric salt dispenser

>>123314718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiE6d0o1w2I

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Daily reminder.

>>123314656
It doesn't stack up well against leopards and performs worse at fire support than T-72s. It's a decent tank but when using it I don't really expect it to do anything but pop heavy IFVs like bradleys and marder 2s.

>>123317828
pls

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>really like Urban Combat
>All games either have nice looking cities and shit combat, or good combat and shit cities

Why does Steel Panthers have to be so bad? Why cant Armored Brigade have nice looking buildings?
Why does the AI in Achtung Panzer turn completely retarded in the villages?
Why does the nice cities from Wargame EE/ALB/RD have to be wasted on such shitty infantry combat?

>>123321035
World in conflict had some pretty great city fights, although the game abstracts everything beyond general equipment tiers

>>123321560
Act of aggression has the best infatnry urban fighting stuff ever.

The ability to rush your guys inside of an enemy held building and then duke it out inside for control was an amazing idea.

>>123321035
Also forgot to add

Why does Combat Mission have such great towns but such boring AI?

>>123321035
>>123322649

You sound impossible to please to be blunt

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T-80U

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leopard 1

>>123321035
Men of war ass squad 2 has some pretty good urban combat.

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more than three weapons per plane are not possible, mon ami

engine limitations, monsieur

>>123335727
Couldn't one simply be hidden, like for ships?

>>123338158
That's what I did with the Mig

>>123329749
>5 roadwheels

What is that, then? Some airshit?

>>123293169
>>123297297
I tried to update and I got an error.

"Unable to download file
An error occurred while trying to open an FTP file."

>>123297162
Oh wow is that what the new version of Flashpoint Campaigns looks like? How good is it?

>>123338483
Makes sense to hid the gun, its dosen't realty have any useful stats other than is an M61 Vulcan/is not an M61 Vulcan/is a HEAT death laser for use on MiG-27s and A-10s only.

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>>123340036
>is that what the new version of Flashpoint Campaigns looks like?

There has been no new version yet.
That's my second custom map. It's mostly done and just needs polishing.

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>>123340095
Yeah, here is an F-16

Sadly modeling the fourth weapon appears much more complicated

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Who who win in a conventional war? Turkey or Russia?

No NATO or any alliances allowed.

>>123342235
Russia crushes their filthy turksmell empire once and for all.

Greece becomes a world power as a result.

>>123342276
t. pavlos papadopoulos

>>123342235
Think Ukraine, but with kebabs.

>>123342235
>Russia launches air campaign
>Planes somehow end up in Israel
>all are shot down

>>123342235

Neither can invade the other, unless the Russians bring in nukes.

>>123342596
Turkey actually has decent ATGMs and tanks though, no?

>>123343496
Anti-tank weaponry won't be very helpful against irregular Kurdish militias that don't have a lot of those.

Even then, Russian tanks are well protected from ATGMs. As for the turks' Leopard 2s, they'll be more of a problem. But ultimately they're not going to solo handle Russia.

>>123342235
>Russian air force gets lost and has to ditch their planes over the north pole
>Russian planes that manage to find their way to Turkey all fall apart and get shot down by SAMs

>Turkish planes all fire upon each other with missiles and then dog fight each other
>only realize they are friendlies once 3/4 of their air force have shot each other down

>Russian tanks get destroyed by T-34s that Turks just have lying around in their backyards
>Russian navy ends up in Madagascar
>2 Brits vacationing there get hurt by shrapnel caused by the Russian navy

>Russian land forces overtake half of Turkey with sheer manpower before they realize they have no supplies left

>>123343652
>Russian navy ends up in Madagascar
>has to abort mission due to a "very large snake"

Another DCS concern. I was flying the SU-27 and tried pressing the S key to disable ACS but it didn't work. It's like it wasn't detecting the key at all, so I went into the menu, and checked my keyboard mapping, and sure enough, "S' was set up to disable ACS. So why isn't it working? Now that I think about it, a lot of the key commands that I've tried to use haven't worked. Has anybody else experienced this issue?

>>123345145
Hit S then sharply pull back the stick, or lightly tip it forward. You'll notice a difference.

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I think I just hit functionally complete with my multiplayer IL-2 inspired game mode. I think everything that's left is polishing up the display text so it's more interesting and informative, as well as finding bugs.

At the mission start, each zone now tallies up the units that are in that zone. Whenever a ground unit is destroyed, it deducts one from whatever zone it was in. With this you can now check and display the status of that zone. If everything is destroyed, people will know.

Like I said, the bulk of the work that's left is mostly just making the display of all this info interesting and easy to read. The hard part of making all the logic and keeping track of everything seems to be done now.

>>123343652

go to bed Mohammed

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>>123343604

Turks dont seem to have alot of leopard 2s, and even those can fall prey to T-90s easily

They do have an assload of M-60s, which wont last a day against any sort of T-72 under competent leadership

As much as i like the idea of a glorious mechanized push into Constantinople a conventional war will most likely be Russia cutting the nuts off the Turkish air-force (airfeild bombing campaign, ASF's establishing air superioty under S-300 cover), bombing some high value targets, some small skirmishes here and there until the Turkish military launches yet another coup at the Islamist leadership

Dosent matter if every kebab and Turkey hates Russia's guts- at-least some of them are smart enough to realize that fucking with Russia is not worth it from an economic and military point of view

Even if nothing happens as a result of the shoot-down (sadly most likely) Russia can kek them hard economically, China will gladly buy any surplus gas from Russia


Fuck man, if i was at-little more conspiracy minded i would say this whole clusterfuck is a way of China funneling Russia even closer to them politically to fuel their growing nation

>>123347648
>China will gladly buy any surplus gas from Russia

But that'd be a terrible move on Russia's part. Not only is that a net cash loss, but the economic result is that China holds Russia by the balls.

>>123347648
>Russia
>Air superiority

Russia couldn't establish air superiority over Georgia in 2008

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>>123347726

Not like we have much choice in the matter


Eurokeks will refuse to buy anything more than they already need because "muh Ukraine"

Obumer will probably say no to and level more sanctions for us asking

And i dont know about you, but after seeing where most Indian hands have been i would want to be taking their money

>>123347648
You forgot the last part of the scenario, the US shows up and kicks Russia's ass so hard they have to rename all their tanks and planes again if they ever want someone to buy them

>>123347894
wouldnt*

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>>123347920

here's your (you)

>R-27ET is well within range
>refuses to give me LA

Why does this happen all the time? I never notice this problem with any other missile.

>>123349260
Doesn't get an IR lock

>>123349260
The ET is an IR missile. Even if it can physically hit a target, the plane won't let you fire it until the missile itself has locked onto the target.

In the Sidewinder, that's what the growl is. It's the strength of the lock of the missile's seeker head. The LA showing up for the ET is same thing as the Sidewinder's growl getting loud.

>>123347827
Well, Georgia didn't have any working planes, so why would they establish air superiority?

>>123347648

Russia has no land border with Turkey. To get there Russia has to go through Georgia, turning this into a multi-state problem.

If Russia goes through Georgia by force, it will take time and possibly drag other countries into this.

Any land forces would have to be VMF/Naval Infantry, and they don't have T-90's in arsenal yet.

Any planes over turkey would have to fly across the black sea, so that's Mig31 and Su-27 variants only. Turkey has enough Block 50's and air defense to contest that.

Russia only has the black sea fleet to work with, since I doubt the UK will let Russian ships through Gibraltar, and the US can pressure Eygpt into closing the Suez to Russians.

Turkey has a pretty big home field advantage to compensate for being worse at pretty much everything.

>S-300 moving to Syria
yes
YES

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>>123350649
>Russia couldn't establish air superiority over a country with no working planes

>>123350681
I forgot the Soviet Union wasn't a thing anymore and assumed they'd just roll tanks in through Georgia, yeah.

>>123350813
>Russia threatens to put S-300 in a country that opposes the US

Oh is it that time of the year already?

>>123350813
But Syria already has the S-300

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>>123352229
>>123352392
Do you work for the media?

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>>123352613
No

>>123350813
*Ship carried S-300

Russian defense minister confirmed they'll be sending S-400 to Syria now

>>123350817
Didn't Georgian SU-25s do multiple attack runs against Russian armoured columns?

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>>123338814
it's a soviet T-34 disguised as a Leopard 1.

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A for autoloader

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>>123358425
This was the first movie about the war in afghanistan I saw, before even rambo.

>>123291809
>>123292425
>>123292505
Thanks for the help with the deck, I managed to obliterate a scandinavian deck, though I still kept the non-RAD AA and it absolutely sucked dick, so I don't know what to take for my AA or how to 'hotkey', I've only been playing the game every so often so I don't have the grasp of some controls yet for microing.

>>123360624
>hotkey
Select all your radar aa, assign them to a control group (ctrl+1 for example) and disable them all at the same time (by default h) when you see a sead plane.

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>>123360871
Thanks friend, I'll try it out in my next game.

>>123342235
Drunken Russian boars BTFO by monkey models. Forced to start selling tanks on Ebay to financially continue war.

>>123358425
What movie?

>>123361975
I'd buy one.

>>123333032
it's cartoony as shit

>>123363875
Compared to what?

>>123346306
No, you don't understand. The S key does nothing. I looked down on my cockpit and looked at the switch that activates and disables ASC, and when I pressed S nothing happened in the cockpit and nothing happened with the plane.

>>123367451
>disabling AoA limiter that's there for safety does nothing
That's just good engineering

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fuggggggggggg

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>>123371316

>>123367451
nvm, figured it out. I had game avionics on.

>page 10

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>>123380313
>just a mobility kill

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bm- oh shit

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>>123380313
monkey model. trust me i can tell these things.

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>>123371612
Have some OC

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>>123386293
>that RWR pic
holy shit sergey

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>>123386829
now wgg style

>>123362523
Looks like The Beast.

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>>123387303
Looks like it, thanks

Can a jet jock tell me how to enjoy modern fighters? They feel pretty easy to fly with the only difficulty being in the avionics. I don't really find missile combat fun either. Any tips to improve my experience?

>>123390571
>I don't really find missile combat fun either
You're just gay lad. No reason to hide it, it's 2015

>>123390571
Wait until DCS F/A-18C. Or buy the MiG-21Bis if you like the feeling that your plane is about to fall apart.

>>123390831
What makes the F-18 so special?

>>123390571
I dunno, use the more difficult to use weapons and fighters?

MiG-21 is super fun to fly because it's a piece of crap relative to the FC3 jets, and because of its place in history it has a ton of design quirks that give it a lot of character. Like for example, just landing the plane is always an adventure.

The Russian fighters are all more fun to fly than the F-15 if you're talking strictly FC3. The Su-27 has much more interesting handling characteristics. The lack of a good active radar missile for all the Russian jets means you have to rely either on SARH missiles (which are way more fun and make you work for your kills unlike an AMRAAM), or IR missiles. The EOS on all the Russian jets too gives you a lot of options and interesting ways to attack a target.

I've been learning the F-15 again lately to get some perspective. I haven't flown it in a very long time (since FC2 days, really) and while I find the plane incredibly boring to fly, taking Sparrows instead of AMRAAMs completely changes the way you search for targets and fight. It's much more interesting and fun that way for me.

>>123390992
It's a full fidelity module, not FC3 trash.

>>123390571
Everything seems easier than it really is if all you fly are flaming cliffs aircraft. Try the MiG-21bis.

Honestly it comes down to skill disparity. A lot of the time modern stuff comes down to guns anyway. Positioning is more important, and the art of rendering missiles as a miss is a lot more involved than the endless turning of WW2 dogfights. You have to kinda make your own fun and challenge yourself. If you're getting smacked by missiles constantly, adjust your tactics and work with your team(Though you're always better off finding friends to fly with.). Mix things up with ground attack craft, or putting bombs/rockets on what are traditionally ASF.

Honestly, DCS really spoils you for options. Heck, if you're really that deadset against modern stuff, there are WW2 and Korean War aircraft. I personally prefer modern because there is more to *do* in my opinion. With WW2 stuff it feels pretty point-and-click, with really simplistic flying and a total lack of electronics.

>>123390769
>voluntarily getting penetrated by missiles, which were designed by the jews to resemble sperm and turn white man gay
Pretty problematic t.b.h

>>123391058
>FC3 trash
No one likes an elitist. I like both levels of simulator. Sometimes I just don't feel like fucking with the tedium of the startup sequence in the more involved modules. Though really, that's largely where the differences begin and end anyway. In actual combat/flight, shit's basically the same, get over yourself.

>>123391345
>No one likes an elitist.
Calm down pal, I fly FC3 too but it's still trash compared to DCS. If you haven't the time for cold start fiddling then just Windows + Home, no-one's going to judge you.

>shit's basically the same
Ah, so you're an idiot? Try flying the A-10A vs C sometime. The guy was complaining about a lack of depth in the DCS fast air selection, which is 100% down to them being FC3 jets. The amount of content in a full multi-role DCS module would blow a limited simulation out of the water.

>get over yourself.
lel

>>123392202
>Try flying the A-10A vs C
Not that guy, but it was pretty clear he was referring to the FC3 jets. In which case, yeah there's not much difference between air to air combat in Falcon BMS versus DCS FC3. You can't click on any buttons in the cockpit, but it's all the same functionality and all the same principles at play.

Air to ground gets a little more complicated because weapons deployment can get more much involved than air to air, but the comparison between the A-10A and A-10C is hardly fair considering how different both those planes are to begin with. Even a full on DCS A-10A would be a very simple jet compared to the A-10C.

>>123392202
>Try flying the A-10A vs C sometime
Because the conversation was totally about ground attack aircrafts and not air to air combat.

>>123392965
>Even a full on DCS A-10A would be a very simple jet compared to the A-10C.
I'll give you that one yeah, though an FC3 A-10C would be very similar to the A-10A I feel.

>>123393040
Well I've no reference point for A2A comparisons. MiG-21 I guess? but that's hardly fair... I still find it much more fun than any FC3 jet though.

>>123392202
I have both. The difference isn't that big. Calm down, no one is impressed that you can memorize a few extra switches in a module where you can just click shit instead of having to remember hotkeys and shit anyway. Hell there's even a shortcut button to begin with.

>>123394383
>The difference isn't that big.

>>123394618
It's not when you take the clickable cockpit away.

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Which one do I take?

>>123396478
Seria 30. You play a suicide plane to snipe a super heavy.

He's a) cheaper b) better ECM c) more powerful missiles d) better range

And with that range my Serias often make it for another run.

>>123396478
Different roles.
Seria for killing expensive tanks. Su-25 for sniping a cheap target and rearming every 20 seconds.

If you can only take one, the tankbuster is obviously the more vital role.

>>123362523
beast of war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdZSSYBhDuQ

>page 10

>>123404197
>again

>>123396478
>tfw 140pts

>>123390571
Fly multiplayer events. AI are fucking easy to kill and most servers are full of scrubs like TAW and MD. Flying in red flag events guarantees that you will be up against some experienced pilots.

The forums are gold sometimes
http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2567806&postcount=12

>>123411343
I think you're a faggot.

-40% off flashpoint campaigns, any chances of it getting even lower? Is it worth it or should I just save and get a combat mission?

>>123413938
Combat mission is plain and simple a better game.

>>123414374
*different

>>123414374
>>123414505
I'm aware of that, but I'm on the fence and I find myself wondering if FC is now worth it or I should just wait for even more content/fixes to come out

>>123414751
Fixes, sure.

Content can and is crowd-sourced. Factions formations, units, scenarios, and maps can be edited or created by any user. See >>123340184

>>123414878
Are those fixes some needed stuff to fix the game, or are they minor things that would just make life better? In short: is it worth it to pick up the game now?

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In what situation would anyone have superheavies in a stack?

>>123419545
When making a webm to prove how based redfor atgm planes are

>>123418861
Minor things. There aren't any major bugs at the moment and any balance is, again, to the user's specifications.

>>123400986
>Language: English

>>123390571
Because using a lot of systems is a lot more realistically simulated as opposed to flying by feel.

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>>123419545
idk if you count them as superheavies but point still stands

Why doesn't shitty Falcon BMS want to let me bind things to my joystick?

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If your seeing this image you have been visited by veteran mig-27 of dual missile hits and HEAT autocanon. Many dead superheavies and assblasted blufags will come to you, but only if your post "SLAVA MiG-27" in this thread.

>>123425869
Take your memes back to leddit tied

>>123426681
^assblasted^

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su-17

>>123421946
Because binding the controls is the hardest part of Falcon BMS.

>>123322156
That idea has been around since fucking C&C red alert.

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>>123421946
Have you tried making sure your controller is plugged in?

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>NATO stabilizers
Reminder that Soviet stabilizers could never reach this level of accuracy, and they were almost always expected to stop before firing.

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>>123436484

>>123436484
The soviets are 20 years behind the US what can you expect.

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>>123436889
Fuck off, they bless their planes which brings them up to date.

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>>123436960
>implying you magic water does anything
That feel when ruskies got btfo yesterday.

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>>123437227
horny turk pls

"But I don't want to be among shitters." Anon remarked
"Oh, you can't help that" said the matchmaker "We're all shitters here. I'm a shitter, you're a shitter."
"How do you know I'm a shitter?" said anon.
"You must be," said the matchmaker, "or you wouldn't have come here."

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>>123436889

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>>123437939
That guys whole village can eat for a month now.

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CEG2 Red Storm is finished and ready.

You can find the files on the Matrix forums, I'm not posting them here because 4chan thinks it's spam.
Simply put both files in Flashpoint Campaigns Red Storm -> Modules -> FPRS -> Maps

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>>123437917
go to bed greg

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>>123437939
>>123438308

>implying slavs cant be fat too


get on my level europoors

>>123438470
hexshit is spam tbqh

>>123438308
So, just like Age of Empires 2?

>>123438681
become the next Hitler then and go gas all the Canadians and I promise you hexposting will be no more.

GAS THE CANADASHITTERS

AMERICA WAR NOW

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>>123439203

>tied is literal shit at wargame

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>>123439687
fixed*

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>>123439976
>>123439687
>>123439352
>>123439203
>>123439037
Someone's a bit ruffled, eh?

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>>123441943

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So I havent been able to play DCS for almost 2 weeks, Is DCS ops still a thing or is it dead?

>>123442656
At a somewhat reduced rate
most planeposters fly on public servers now

>>123437227
That feel you bomb Turkmen with Odabs
https://youtu.be/ZSlwrlHLlnE

>>123442773
What happened to the furry and his dedicated server and mission making?

>>123443036
He left to go yiff with his fellow furfags

>>123442931
All that Allah snackbaring, fuck that would drive me mad

>>123442931
Jesus christ, one snackbar is enough

>>123437227
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUhib8aqmxw

6 T*rks died.

>>123400986
>the arab women chimping out
If it wasn't for the fact that they depicted Soviets as having feelings, it would be a pretty accurate movie.

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The IL-2 style game mode is progressing smoothly. I'm at the point where most of what I'm doing now is hashing out the best way to communicate what's going on. I've also fixed some bugs that would cause script crashes.

After seeing message spam like this, I'm convinced batching the under attack messages is the best way to go. The message spam is pretty extreme if you attack a bunch of targets at once, and you already get that in the chat box so it seems redundant.

Some kind of generic "T-55 Platoon is under attack at MM16!" message that comes any time a new attack on the area happens after a set period from the last attack.

I don't have the time or energy for DCS atm. Is IL-2 BOS a good game if I want realism but not full autism?

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>10$ for an FW190 even on a 50% sale

>>123341109
>That loadout
Oh shit nig! if you're the one doing the modding I have a question, would adding the coax MG to tanks be possible like you did with "hiding" the M61 on the F-16? not asking you to do it but its something that might b cool.

>>123447421
DCS WW2 is extremely easy. I've never read the manual but I'm still able to get kills.

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Help
Are those 25point T-55s actually a good investment or are they just bad as all hell?

>>123449498
Too low accuracy, use the 15pt PTs if you want a recon tank.

>>123450138
But since they are so cheap and I can field so many of them, isn't it viable to just mass charge with them and get close enough to offset the awful accuracy at range?

>>123450589
If you just want a cheap swarm a 10pt vehicle like asu-85 will give you 2.5 times more units and thus survivability than a t-55. And no, its a bad idea except for specific very closed spaces.

>>123448262
This is entirely possible, however its a really bad idea. Don't believe me? Try using older french tanks with the 20mm cannon to discover the pain and suffering of coaxial weapons in the wargame engine. They work well for GLATGMs, and work OK for the Tunguska. The PZG-95 is extreamly blessed by NOT having coaxial weapons, although this can sometimes lead to the QW-2 displaying truly amazing over the shoulder launches that are widely beyond the real QW-series' capabilities.

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>>123425869
Hello.

>>123447172
BOS has even less content than DCS.

>>123442656
>Cool formation there
>ECM on a su-27
>GAAAH GET OUT

>>123453758
Its a campaign mission and I kept the default loadout, calm down faggot.

forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=2567748#post2567748

this tread, is gold.

>>123455723

Speaking of which, anyone get around to playing with CMANO yet? /k/ agrees that it's the definitive "my airforce/navy can beat up your airforce/navy" simulator

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I see Red Dragon is on sale but I'm a poor fag. Is EE worth picking up instead?

>>123456451
Do you want to play multiplayer in a multiplayer-focused game?
http://steamcharts.com/search/?q=wargame

>>123456654
Yeah that's what I'm looking for bit can't afford it. Probs gonna have to wait until Christmas. Thanks for heads up anon.

>>123297413
Cheap 3-per-card SEAD?

What's not to like?

>>123456907
1v1 is weird.

>>123456737

>Can't afford $12.50

May want to put off playing video games for a bit until you get your life sorted

>>123456959
>May want to put off playing video games for a bit until you get your life sorted

Not by choice anon. Got disabled in an accident. Can't work, no NEET bux, college loans, food, not family to turn to, blah blah blah. Regardless I'm happy to see this game isn't dying off yet. I want something to sink my teeth into. Is there any for mof single player? As in would playing a pirated copy against AI get my warmed up for actual multiplayer.

>>123457114

It would give you an idea of how the game plays, obviously the AI is shit and you'll never learn the meta from it, but some fun can be had.

Pirate RD, AI is even worse in the previous games.

>>123297413
>no cheapshit AA

What if some shitter sends like 4 helis behind your lines?

>play something else than China
>get reckt
SORRY COMRADE MAO

>>123458660
git gut

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y/n?

>>123445557
Lol was that even a military convoy? Looks like civilian trucks, which makes sense, given that it's supposedly a Russian airstrike.

>>123465254
Get more eryx.

>>123465254
>canada without the MEXAS
What's the point

>>123466298
>motorized

>>123466437
That moto deck won't get that far with such a bad inf section

>>123466657
Give suggestions then?

>>123465254
>two cards of C1
You really gonna need 34 shitty tanks?
Get rid of one, take a card of planes of some sort, and one more recon

>>123466725
Canadian airborne 75 are better than the 90s version and better than most REDFOR shock, so you have to exploit this. Get 3 cards of elite CA75 in bisons to be your core inf, get 2 elite eryx as your core fire support, and use the other slots for pioneers and javelins. Canadian riflemen are shitty and so are highlanders.

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>>123467863
You're full of shit.

>>123470492
Getting an AR and a better AT launcher is actually totally worth the extra expense, MG be damned.

>>123467863
>highlanders
Friendly Reminder this is Quebec French for 'bad Legion 90s with shit transports options'

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Su-7

>>123456029
They use manufacturer brochures for their databases, sometimes not even that, they have no military connections unlike ED, it can't be trusted.

combined arms is a better my airforce vs your airforce than CMANO

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>>123321035
Try red rising mod on men of war, the autistic amount of inventory management is sublime.

>>123470492
c2a1 has one of the best suppression effects in the game. This isn't easy to see from the stat card, but it is how it is. The main purpose of MGs is suppression, which makes canuck 80 better than 90 as long as cqc and fire on the move arent factors.

>>123484268
ignore the part where I said fire on the move

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Some advice?
Maybe too many helis?

>>123485020
>4/5 infatry
NOPE

And yeah, you definitely won't be needing 10 AA helos. Also restrict yourself to one card of infantry in a helo, preferably low-availability infantry with a good RPG (usually found in the recon tab). Also too many atgm vehicles.

>>123485020
also the one other infantry that should be in a helo is your CV

>>123485723
Do I really need heli-borne inf CVs? I'm not really planning to cap those far out zones. I was banking on my allies doing it.

>>123486436
Not mandatory, but it gives you a lot more flexibility with capping. For nations whose transports pack good rockets (think czech mi-i7 or french panther) it also gives you access to those fire support helos without crippling your infantry tab for it, but that doesn't really apply to polan.

>>123485020
Drop a card of W-3W Sokols. You wont need more than 5 of them.

Get your Shock Flamethrowers, those guys are great and should be in ever polish deck.

Take your PT-91s, they are basically M1A1HC clones and are definitely worth having.

Might want to drop a recon helicopter, or maybe the T-55, and get some Formoza.

Consider using your stock SKOT-2s, since they are 10pt, no KVPT, but no 5pt upcharge. If you like the KVPT, use the SKOT-2AP, its the same price, but has the 15% accuracy KVPT instead of the 10% one.

Try the 9K33M2 ROMB, its an OSA-AK with a funny name, get a pair and watch the nato plans fall form the sky.

I would personally recommend the Mi-6 over the Mi-8 for a supply helicopter.

Don't bother with ATGM vehicles, if you take anything in the VEH tab at all, take a ZSU-57 or TO-55.

Maybe try and squeeze in a MiG-21MF, you cant go wrong with 240mm rockets.

>>123486909
Poland gets the Mi-17 with its usual 122mm rocket loadout.

>>123486436
>I was banking on my allies doing it.

I'd suggest not to rely on your allies doing anything unless you play with friends. Plan for worst case scenarios.

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the RWR on Su-24M would've warned it of turk radar, lock, and missile incoming right?

so all this "absolutely zero warning" is bullshit?

unless IR missile i.e. close range

>>123487698
The kill was made with sidewinders.

The Soviets developed a "T" or infared-seeking version for their medium range missiles, like the R-40T or R-27T or R-23T.

Why was there no IR version of the Sparrow?

DCS F-22 when?
DCS Su-50 When?

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>>123439660
^^anally annihilated^^

>>123488708

Because the sidewinder exists?

>>123488708
Because the sparrow was actually dogshit.

>>123488986
>uk aa is a-ok

>>123488973
In 60 years maybe.

>>123488986
>capped from a game he lost

>>123487698
Russian sources said IR missile, probably air-to-ground.

>>123489310
So is the R-40R, R-23R, and R-27R.

Didn't stop the soviets from developing IR versions.

I picked Red Dragon up on a sale long ago but barely played it, can I find very bad players online to play against or is it just people who know what they're doing at this point?

>>123492264
There's a sale almost every month, with one up now, there's a steady stream of fresh meat

>>123488708
I think part of it is because the Russians believed that it was better to double tap with two different seeker heads than it was to rely on one missile to not get spoofed. When the R-27 was around, the R-60 was their primary short range IR missile and it had a much shorter range than a Sidewinder would, so the ranges didn't overlap much.

I think the reason the Americans never did it is because they had so much confidence in their radars and missiles being better that they weren't all that interested in a missile that would have a shorter range than a Sparrow because it would put it in range of a Sidewinder, and at that point why use a huge and bulky IR Sparrow when you can just use a Sidewinder?

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>>123341109
>>123335727
fug

it appears that evac winchester is broken for both of these planes now

>>123492150
>If america makes a bad rocket, every other rocket must be bad too.

>>123493265
Semiactive missiles are just shit, which is why everyone was so eager to move on to R-77/AMRAAM

>>123489530

>posted from my hard to use SAS squads
>posted from my hard to use eurofighter
>posted from my SPAAG which can take SEAD missile hits

>>123495467
>eurofighter is AA
>all you need for a good AA net is a 2km stinger which can defend itself and a spaag

>>123495849
Tied hasn't updated his game since April 2014

>>123493865
They aren't shit per say, the ability to defend while attacking trumps anything else.
if ARH are easier to spoof than SARHs they'd still move to them just because of that.

>>123495849

>mig-25 is in the air tab
>therefor soviet airborne cant down planes for shit

all you need for a good AA net is to not put your bong bunkers in the middle of an open field

>>123496153
>posted from my soviet deck

>>123496347

>soviets are OP may-may

>posted from my LAW-80 collation
>posted from my MG-3 coalitions

>>123496612
vampyr is as good as law80 most of the time
mg3 has nothing on spetsnaz
but why am I even bothering, if you knew how to play you would've complained about eryx instead of that shit

>>123496871

>having line infrantry with better AT stats than shock inf is a-ok
>spetsnaz being meta

>>123497508
>bitching about the best line infantry AT
>while having the second best line infantry AT

>>123497676
I think you're confusing the RPG-7VR for the PzF 44.

>>123497508
If you think spetsnaz aren't meta then I really don't know what to say.

>>123498330
>Jagers are good for their AT

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>>123498423
yeah ussr is totally meta

>>123496153
If you notice the mig took down the aa itself too. I'm partial for redfor but uk aa has issues and it's useless to deny it

>>123498823
>implying USSR isn't
Haven't they been like, the top ranked faction in the game for fucking forever since Eurocorp got toned down?

>>123498823
>pactbabbies are so delusional that they think USSR is non-competitive

>>123499097

>implying AA sites are vunerable if they are clustered THAT close to the front


>>123500775

>eurocorps
>toned down

good one mad mat

>>123502181

>having less accurarcy because 'le pact cant hit mon ami'
>every patch since last year has been 80% USSR nerfs
>have infrantry that loses in most striaght up fights
>having commando's that are nerfed every patch
>not having a SINGLE 70% acc weapon
>having awful tube arty
>BMPs at 15% acc
>PKM being terrible dispite it being the best LMG of the cold war
>Konkurs with less pen than Milan
>Metys with less range than Milan
>RPG-7 on 1975 line infrantry
>Igla's less accurate than stingers
>strela's less accurate than Avengers
>T-62 and T-55 series
>T-72s at 45 points
>T-34s instead of T-10ms
>BMPT cant fire all three weapons at once mon ami
>il-102 instead of su-34
>competitive

hon

>>123502832
Half of those are total bullshit anyway.

Like really, complaining about the BMPT? Commandos that are nerfed every patch? They're still the best damn SF that can insta-nuke anything else that comes against it 1v1.

All of this shit is dumb whining. USSR is not only fine, they more or less dominate ranked because they're well-rounded as fuck.

But that doesn't really help your 'abloo bloo bloo bluforce bias' narrative.

>>123502181

>t-64s with less armor than cheiftans
>Leopard 1s with same armor as t-64s
>Cheapest MANPAD helo being 100 points
>GSh-301 below 1,500 rounds per minute
>normal su-25 having less armor than A-10
>stock Buks being trash
>T-90 instead of object 195
>T-90 instead of object 187
>No Laser Guided bombs
>Mig-25 SEAD operating anywhere close to radar AA range
>T-72 ob 1989 and 87 being worse than NSWP ones
>T-64bm at 2,100 meter range
>T-64bvi being more useful than T-80Bv
>smerch and TOS-1 being 1 per card while MARs is 2

competitive and accurate mon ami

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>>123503218

heres your (you) bob

>>123502832
>a shit ton of whining that is hardly relevant to actual balance
>waah tube arty sucks even though every other nation's does
>waah line inf suck even though every other nation's does
>how dare our ATGMs be slightly weaker than other nation's also shit ATGMs
>tanks that no one uses but aren't relevant because the stronger tanks are perfectly capable and competitive
>meanwhile I'll pretend that's a weakness and that the USSR doesn't have by far the largest and most diverse tank selection
>shitty proto in favor of shitty OOTF proto, why would you use either when the Su-24M is a thing?

>>123503603
>300 unit faction
>some units are not competitive
>therefore the faction is not

>>123505501
If only bob was as easy to filter out as his slavaboo counterpart

What if Tied is just Bob trying to make slavaboos look retarded?

>>123506606
s-slavabob?

>>123506606
>trying to make slavaboos look retarded

I don't think anyone has to do this, they already do a good enough job of it themselves

I feel a compulsion to only take line units, and almost never take SF and prototypes

what do i need to buy to get operation barbarossa?
on coh2

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>>123342235
>No NATO
The entire point of NATO is to prevent situations like the one you're describing from occurring.

>>123520842
I'd like to see the T-90 try that.

So it looks like the close combat games are actually on sale for once. Should I get gateway to Caen or panthers in the fog?

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>air-to-air refueling

>>123522197
what are you doing it in?

>>123523146
su-33

>>123523549
That's the easiest plane to refuel in the game. I really like refueling the Su-33.

>>123523624
well it's terrible thing to get a hang of the first time

Is it safe to say RD has been completely conquered by the peace^lords and that no game can be won without their support?

>>123523670
>approach tanker
>match tanker's speed
>press j
>press r

done

>>123523670
The trick is to do everything in very small movements, and react to things before they happen. Like for example if you start to accelerate to catch up the basket, then you shouldn't start decelerating once you've caught up to the basket. You want to start decelerating long before that. Always be thinking of where the plane will be in 5-10 seconds, not where it is now.

It's mostly just about having a very light touch to all your movements. A big curve can help with that, but you have to be careful about curves because they can make large movements (like you would in a dogfight) really abrupt.

>>123525271
What does this even mean

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Alright which one of you is this?

>>123531591
probably ivan

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>>123342235
Well...

>>123527561

The peace^lords are the highest level players in RD and are in nearly every game. Its IMPOSSIBLE to win without them because that means there's one on the other team.

>>123533159
You shouldn't be posting on this site when you're under 18 years old.

>>123533898

Sounds like someone doesn't actually play RD.

>>123534268
the fuck is a peace^lord

>>123535913
A cancer joke from a cancer youtuber. Literally google it.

He's some 12 year old trying to perpetuate a joke that no one else will get.

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How to use R-27R?

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>>123503218
[Sgt] pls go

>>123537139
It's a semi-active missile. SA missiles are for shitting on people who don't have them, and for forcing other SA carriers to go defensive, which retards their accuracy allowing you to get in an IR dogfight.

They're useless against someone carrying active radar missiles.