/rlg/ - Roguelike General

>>123199214
So I've heard.
Well the most stupid deaths were altar deaths, playing mist elves (fucking 8 HP) and getting carless around the lesser vault in the PC, due to frustration that there wasn't a single altar and I had metric tons of unidentified gear.

I usually go Unassuming Cave>(Infinite Dungeon, if I play something weak)>City Dungeon>Puppy Cave/Druid Dungeon.
Afterwards I though I could search for the weaker random dungeons, but I guess I could also go straight for CoC.

>>123200829
You can save the puppy cave for later, the quest doesn't ever become unavailable and at low levels it's a death trap. You can always safely skip the first cave unless you're hoping for an altar or something.

>>123199561
Increase the size of cities, up the spawn rate scaling factor, the npc spawn rate, monster evolution, turn on static and random npc's, turn on wander spawns

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Let's git gud together anonymous!

>>123201541
Also, keeping your character unencumbered becomes substantially easier once you can buy fried bats and cooked lizards from the ratling traders at the arena. Lighter and cheaper than rations, and equally as satiating.

>>123200715
>rlg got second place

You niggas hot as fuck. We did so good.

With a more refined effort we can definitely get #1 next time.

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OHAIO /rlg/!!!!
LET'S DANCE OUR BEST TODAY!

>>123201541
Well the lower levels of it aren't that bad, unless your character is to weak to handle the ant nest.
The cavernous level is a death trap though.

>>123201878
Well I mostly stash away most shit I don't need right now and that's too heavy to lug around.

>that one guy got forgotten again

I hope this becomes a running joke.

>>123202230
>that one guy got forgotten again

Oh no
not again

who was it this time, they told me to make an OP with the adom win

>>123202230
3? 4? threads already
poor anon

man I even tried to remind you >>123200276

>>123202197
Keeping a stash in ADoM is kinda risky though, until you have seven league boots or something of the sort to reduce the time you spend in the wilderness. Unless you're very good like the troll archmage guy you want to avoid hitting the 90 day limit for as long as you can.

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>>123202448
>>123202230
Shit.

>>123202495
The 90 day limit isn't that big of a deal if you clear out the heavy corruption dungeons before you reach it.

>>123202448
>>123202298
Some say he is damned, cursed to splat eternally until his only win is acknowledged in the OP.

>>123202495
I'm probably going to be slow as fuck no matter what I do. Also mostly talking about keeping an early stash. Unload all the equipment you find at a central location and then pick it all up again once you find an altar to check B/U/C. Afterwards you're good.

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I was looking for fanart of andor drakon but I found this instead

Goddamn this is pretty.

I wish URR wasn't being developed by a hack on his spare time. He's making a thing that rivals dorf fort but he doesn't have nearly the same drive as toady.

>Paratrap goes off
>Reflective acidic jelly wanders over, splitsl ike heck on my salamander, kills it, then weakens my plate armor
>Still no protect armor
>Can't survive without wearing it
Fucking shit. It's a good feature but fuck me if I like it when I'm the victim.

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the fuck do i do now

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>>123202230
I laughed, its ok anon, my win isnt good anyway, i was just bit frustrated at that moment by some stuff, i know i suck and that there are better wins than mine so its all good

>>123203127
>dat libtcod beauty

muh dick

>>123203397
Posterchild for why we need to stop putting iwns in the OP. Ya'll are fucked in the head and this custom is a toxic practice that leads to faggots and faggot enablers.

>>123202681
Its not my only win, i have three wins

>>123203331

You get that rune and GTFO of there?

>>123203647
im level 12, i got banished
i need to get out as fast as possible

>>123203331
You get the rune cuz youre MiBe?

>>123203742
again,level 12, i can barely fight of one demon

>>123203731
Dive to abyss:3 and o-tab until it bursts into abyssal runes?
Liberal use of trog's hand. Brother as needed. Hope you have a ring of teleport.

What if the abyssal rune was in fragments and you needed to get a fragment from each floor of the abyss to assemble a full rune?

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>>123203480
it is really the prettiest roguelike. Actually I might have been too harsh on him, he's not a hack. It just suffers from that same problem toady has: 'I need to do this myself' this guy isn't getting paid for it like toady is. He's not working full time.

It's sad.

Any Linux fags around that know how to setup the windows in Angband 4.0.3?

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LOOK AT THIS
LOOK HOW PRETTY IT IS
GODDAMN LOOK AT THE SEA'S HUES
IT'S GORGEOUS

>>123203331
Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru

next time don't tab distro wielders

>>123203902
Toady's getting paid?

>>123204346
yeah, he quit his job to work on fulltime. He gets by with donations, it's been some years now. He gets something like 30 K every month, if my memory doesn't fool me. He gives the exact values every month in a forum post.

>>123204227
I fell 3 levels through a shaft into D15 right onto Loiuse or whatever the name of the bitch is that banishes and before i could even read a scroll of leteport i was done

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What the fuck is wrong with the cata wiki?

>>123204346
Yeah. He's averaging slightly better than minimum wage on average which isn't that good since he also has to support his deadbeat ideaguy brother who needs to get a job

>>123204493
Only on release months and it drops after

>>123204609
Gotta level traps and doors bruh.

>>123204624
KA101 was the admin before he left
as usual, he didn't give a shit about anyone else and didn't give admin rights to anyone so

wiki's dead

Good news is that KA101 is really gone forever at least

copy the cache of the page you want to use

>>123204609
why didn't you summon a brother? Don't tell me you didn't get one turn on her, anon. Don't lie to me, I can feel it.
You tried tabbing her, didn't you?

>>123204609
>before i could even read a scroll of leteport i was done
Did you ab?

>>123204885
Typical sjw kek

>>123203127
Isn't it that game made by the guy sucking his own dick about how great he and his game is.
I remember there was a discussion about it times ago, still think that guy is kind of a fuckhead to be honest..

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>>123203397
>>123203535

>>123205151
10/10
straight in my roguelike folder

>>123205147
College students tend to be fuckheads yes.

>>123205151
Lol. No honestly now, its all fine, just since it were all crawl wins i wanted mine up but since that was 2 threads ago it doesnt matter then
Ill win another time you just wait! Right after my exams finish

>dorf fort's last update was 10 months ago

Toady will die before finishing it and we know it.

>>123205895
His diet worries me.

>>123205989
That's why I said he'll die before finishing it.
Dude doesn't have many years left.

>>123205895
>>123205989
>>123206093
... What does he eat?

>>123206289
Cliche programmer snacks. Junk food. Soda.

No energy drinks though, so he may have a chance. He's not that fat, so he may be able to avoid diabetes for another decade.

> I managed to get a skeletal 64 bit DF program running, finally, and I'll continue to work out problems with that once this release is out (this release will still be 32).

Maybe 3 or four years from now we'll have a 64 bit DF

>>123206570
>you will never break into MIT at midnight and run DF on their Cray supercomputer

>>123206672
>large embark
>three years in
>it lags just a little bit

SUCCESS

>>123206672
>spend all night drawing on paper trying to design the most efficient fort possible

As if you guys came second. rlg confirmed for brilliant players.

>>123207383
well, /rlg/ is the club for the best roguelike players
you've got the creme de la creme here

The greatest nerds who have ever played videogames congregate here

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>>123207910
>it is said that at least once in his lifetime, a true roguelike player will need to reach /rlg/ and post his win

>>123208401
You can't just write /rlg/ with a brush on the Mecca, anon.
That's lazy.

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>>123208401

>>123208915
>where's ruk-chan

Okay no
Don't die
Come on

B U M P
U
M
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>>123211308
cunt

>>123211352
We had the same idea, so why are you calling me with such words, anon

>>123209025

Inside the cube, making ruks.

I really like it when /rlg/ busts out the mspaint desu

I wish we could do it more often senpai

>>123211450
because you beat me to it and i'm butthurt
>>123211537
i agree

>>123211479
I always asked myself from where all the ruka came from.
So the Mecca is like the breeding orc pits, breeding ruks who will eventually breed little ruks who will bred earth foe the mother ruk to create new ruks.

Ruk life is so fascinating

>>123211767
>pulsating ruk vulvae

Apparently one of the teams for the .16 tournament was " A Thousand and One Squelching Orc Vulvae Pulsating to the Rhythm of the Runescape Login Theme"
That is beautiful.

>>123212517
Tell me they weren't goons.

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I heard this was a thing so i made a funny
Also why do knights have abysmal hp growth? I had to reverse genocide nurses twice to get some health

>>123212745
How the fuck do you play nethack on a phone
That sounds horrible

>>123213051
Quick fingers, neglect of impracticability and ability to adapt

>>123203127
Those are some NICE trees. What game is this?

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>>123212745
>Reverse genocide nurses
D-Did you breed with the nurses? How does that give you health?

>>123213810
Ultima ratio regum.

Basically DF in space on steroids.

>>123213897
The healing properties of nurses are entirely through handholding and hugs.

And consuming their flesh. Can't forget that.

>>123213810
http://www.ultimaratioregum.co.uk/game/info/

>>123213897
W-well anon, first you have to take them to a nice place wheer they'll feel comfortable, like a nice Sokoban room, or Medusa's island if they like the beach. Or if, if, if you're into k-kinkier stuff you can use one of the Castle's corner towers, the intimacy of those 5X2 squares makes it even lewder.
Once you're ready, you gently take out your scroll of genocide from your bag of holding and gently d-dip it into unholy water. Then they'll ask you if you're ready, and you must not falter, not even for a second, otherwise you'll read it while confused and ruin everything.

>>123214732
Join the AANT (Adventurers against nurse tinning)

>>123214871
LEWD!

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>>123214871
How lewd.

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>cardboard box of vegetable pizza (4): 4 volume
>vegetable pizza (4): 8 volume
How does this work.

>>123215564
Rising crust pizza.

>L:1
>clear lengthy vault with ~5 oklob plants
>reward is 15 stones, two potions of lignification, and a book of wizardry which I already have
For fuck's sake.

>>123215564
Clearly it's harder to store your pizza without making a mess if it's not in a box

>>123216270
>you can store a pizza in cargo pants
I'm not sure if "making a mess" is a factor at this point.

>>123214246
>>123214747
So, is there anything to do in this game?
Am I not getting it, or is it just severely unfinished?

>>123213051
He has actually won too, I think.

>>123218229
Are you unable to read?

>>123206672
>200 dorfs, 3x3 embark
>12 years in
>FPS:17
>"And in todays news, a break-in and suicide was found at MIT investigators are..."

>19 in crossbows
>0 points in any other weapon skill
>Okawaru has gifted me multiple halberds
Okawaru PLEASE

>>123215564
The system isn't standardized thanks to everyone being volunteers and tard wrangler being the surest way to burnout, murder or kill yourself.

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Oh come on!

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>>123223004
Thank god leprechauns move wierd.

Also shit there are more levels of this? This looks hard.

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>>123223228
Jesus.

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Just took four doomings.

>>123223583
pool quaffing is suffering

can you get a wish while doomed/cursed or do you need to remove it first?

>>123223472
Just wait until you get to the last one. The reward is worth it, but holy fuck i still can't do one of the designs consistently

>>123223774
Gotta remove dooming to get a wish. Which meant going to Dwarftown four times.

>>123223472
>>123224271
yeah there are two possible layouts for the last floor, and they give different (but both very good) rewards

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>>123223583

Is two-weapon combat worth it in the current version of ADoM?

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>Set NPC spawn rate to 10 with dynamic npc's on
>Pick an imam with speech skills to match for a "bard" run
>Convert my evac NPC
>Buy food and drink off the first NPC I run into
>Cop car just missing headlights 6 map tiles away
Allahu Ackbar!Allahu Ackbar!Allahu Ackbar!

For Cataclysm DDA should I play stable or experimental?

Also, what the fuck is wrong with their wiki?

>>123224271
>>123224420
There are only 3 levels, right? Rule of 3 and all that.

“If I had actual time to play games, that's the kinda game I would love to spend time with.” ~pewdiepie reviews dungeonmans

how long until neurotypicals invade rlg?

>>123225839
Nope, 4

>>123225948
>neurotypicals
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/r9k/
People who play "steam" "roguelikes" don't go on 4chan enough to find our secret club. Not that dungeonmans isn't a roguelike.

>>123225710
Experimental. It's essentially stable outside of the few times someone gets something glitchy in which is fixed usually within the week.

Apparently it got keked by mismanagement done by a keked sjw. Use https://web.archive.org/web/20150905212810/http://www.wiki.cataclysmdda.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

>>123226387
The inheritance stuff makes me vomit.

>>123226320
Oh god this is going to be terribly difficult.

>>123225948
Anyone who spends enough time playing roguelikes to seek out roguelike discussion on 4chan cannot be neurotypical.

>>123226387
>People who play "steam" "roguelikes" don't go on 4chan enough to find our secret club
Lad, we had(have?) Risk of Rain, Binding of Isaac, and Faster Than Light generals right on this very board.

They aren't normie-only games.

>>123226516
yeah no-spoiler sokoban is a real challenge

>>123226709
Yeah, but they're ephemeral. They come when new content is released and die when it wears out. I check out some of those generals when they pop up and they come and go. Only one right now is boig unless you count indie. Nothing bad will happen 'cus some faggot said he liked a roguelike.
>>123226467
>inheritance stuff
If it's optional like in Elona or OWH it should be fine. Unlocks and meta-progress (aside from skills/knowledge) are very un-rogue though.

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is conjurations even worth it anymore?

never mind

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>>123227818

>>123228164
Shoulda paid attention.

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>>123227492
Apparently the answer was yes.

>>123226387
shut your filthy mouth, dungeonmans is a great roguelike where you uncover an intellectual conspiracy to rewrite history in the most culturally, religiously and socially detailed procedural world ever generated.

Ya'll like Darkest Dungeon?

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>>123229902
eh, it's not really an actual roguelike in that it doesn't really play like rogue. It's a game with "roguelike elements" pic related.

I've watched some other folks play it, looks like fun, but I'm guessing not appropriate fodder for this general even though I bet some folks here play it. If you're a non-regular maybe we can convince you to stick around and try out one of our games linked in the OP?

>DDA
>You you fill an NPC's inventory, they'll drop stuff you trade them so you can trade it to them again and again until they're out of cash
10/10

>>123230081
Sure! I'm open for anything.

>>123228748
Saved.

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>>123230081
>>123230139
oops wrong pic, I accidentally a mean "FAULT" picture instead of a mean make-fun-of-devs-who-market-their-game-as-roguelike pic

>Sure! I'm open to anything.
cool beans, do you have a preferred setting/style? I'm personally best able to give advices about the Angband variants (though most here can give broad or beginner advice on any of the games linked in the OP).

Personally I'd recommend starting with one of Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup (listed as DCSS), PosChengband, Brogue, or Nethack if you feel like kicking around for a bit. Sil is also very good.

DESU Nethack is a decent one to start with because it has great humor, lots of weird things that can happen (and amusing ways to die), and a well-developed "the devs think of everything" type of content, without being too open-ended.

For highly experienced nethack players the endgame is kindof a grind, but I've found it's a really fun way to get into the genre.

>>123230676
I'll try DCSS, thanks.

>>123230747
Crawl, brogue, Infra Arcana, Sil, Nethack 4 are our best representatives.

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>>123230747
cool, recommend start with smashy smashy Minotaur Berserker while you get a handle on the basics. Pasta is your friend, the thread is very good at being helpful to question-askers, you can play online at crawl.s-z.org/#lobby if you want, and have fun

pic distantly related, FeSu means Feline Summoner in DCSS-talk

>>123230909
m-muh tome4

if you destroy a god altar in dcss they will inflict wrath right? i want to destroy every beogh altar

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Poor charles.

>>123232020
wut

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Look what I found in a dumpster.

Eat it [y/n]?

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>>123233617
yyyyyy

>>123233617
Bash things with it.

>>123201864
>>123233765
I see Ergo Proxy suddenly appeared in this thread.
Nothing against it.

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>>123233765
>Your Weak Stomach mutation turns into Nausea!
Balls.

>>123234010
Could have been fleet footed. You lose so that you appreciate winning that much more.

>>123233765
Man, that show could have been really great if they didn't drop the ball with Vincent turning into a Proxy and all of the nonsense with gameshow and how they handled the ending in general. Total waste of a truly great scifi setting.

>>123234010
Though apparently nausea is an active mutation, meaning I can activate it to puke on command.

There has got to be some use for this.

>>123234103
That's true about many things.
They're great until Japan Japanifies them.
Ergo Proxy at least had great artistic style.

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Here we see a Q in his natural environment, about to dump two Dracos onto mister Scrubbo-Shitla.

>>123235260
>Q
noice
go fuggimup
ubbo-sathla's a bitch
I just drunkenly smashed through wargs quest on a random-gen sniper and then stopped because I was still alive

this gin is more gin than I realized

>>123234226
Anime is inherently japanese though. They just took the easy way out, storywise. Its really hard to have a story about these horrifying "monsters" and how humanity tries to deal with them without humanity having some way to equalize themselves. It would have been really interesting to actually see a show about humanity waning in the wake of these "monsters" for once, and have the show being about how humanity deals with its inevitable death and how it declined rather than "And than Vincent was the proxy and did some real cool bleach shit to kill all the other proxies, and now the real human beans came back so its all ok." Why not explore the AutoReivs more, or do more shit with the dead city domes that litter the white wastes instead? Attack on Titan pulled the same shit and suffers for it too.

>>123235260
>Gee Guylthulg, how come your dad lets you have TWO dracolisks?

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>Finally fail a speech check agaisnt an NPC
>He's hostile
>Oh god I didn't look at his equips first
>Getting plinked by a weatherby rifle while I frantically run backwards to hurt his to-hit as much as I can
>He runs out of ammo and drops his rifle when he wields a crowbar
>Just started, no painkiller yet and this is my first loot run so no protective clothing and 0 chance of fighting
>Make it back to my police car
>Try to start her up but the hostile NPc makes it onboard
>Crash into a guard rail of a bridge
>Sprint off the car, try to start droppnig anything I can as I was intending to trade a bunch of zombie junk for cash to buy food
>He's not getting out
>Hostile NPC code must have spazzed out cause he's just lurking in my police car with all my tools like he's the troll under the bridge
>Try to go beat on him but fighting on car frame plus my pain and bad armor leads me to \ torso health
>Sleep it off for a couple days as my food supply dwindles from the vendors
>Days later he's still lurking in my police car, refusing to leave and no way for me to kill him after the throwing nerfs
>See him under attack by a wandering horde spitter zombie when I go to train up tailoring in the light instead of my gas station cache
>He runs up like 20 minutes later and tries to pry me
>Kill him
>Gained a replacement for my 3rd friendly NPC
>Soon to have tailoring 4 then try to outfit everyone with nail boards and decently protective clothing
>We'll be marauding out of a police car
Damn shame friendly NPC's wont attack NPC's that are hostile to you.but I guess that's life.

>>123235472
>The spawn of ubbo-saltha roars with laughter!
>You feel a wave of hopelessness and despair!

>>123233936
It was a very weird anime with a lot of problems, but that episode is godlike.

I want a Pino

>>123234010
>>123234225
Fuck yes.

>>123234103
Game show episode was amazing. Ergo Proxy was at the top of its game in the middle of the series when it realized how far up its own ass it was and decided to have fun with it. Game show, stranded with no wind, lake hallucination Proxy, etc

Ending was dildos, though, I agree.

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Guys are you done I'm gonna be late for my summoning classes
At least you're not teleporting around like the stupid Demilich I brought earlier, he's not my friend anymore.

>>123235634
>that pic
I'm jelly AF desu senpai

>>123234103
>>123234226
>>123235393
>shonen anime devolves into shonen powerlevel bullshit
>people are surprised

You guys need to stick with depressing shit like Nihei if you want your humanity-is-fucked fix.

>>123235634
You enabled NPCs. You knew the price.

>>123236032
remember Q summons care about depth so you can actually speedrun/dive pretty effectively if you're detecting frequently and aware of what monsters do

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>>123236032
>>123236271
Huh, level 33 gave me Summon Lich. That's oddly specific.
Liches suck though, so whatevs.

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>>123235634
>>123236163
>New day
>Yakking it up with the new spawns
>Oh hey reyn...
>I'm about to get mugged and he's already too close to dash inside, board up the door and hope he fucks off
>I-I'll just let him mug me then, I can replace shit and I split everything but my antibiotics so i-it'll be f-fine...
>"Bye bye, fuckwad"
Well I think this is it.

>>123236163
Being a scifi fan is truly suffering.

>>123236163
Ergo Proxy
Shonen
...I must've missed something

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I gotta accept this one just to see what happens.

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Alrighty.

>>123236950
>I have a job for you
>Plz code this message in

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>>123211537

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>>123231664
Is this gonna be forever?

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>>123237286
What is crawl's deal with quokkas anyway?

>>123237408
Depends on the variant, I think. Yes in vanilla.

>>123237408
I used to polypet in unNethack to figure out which dragons gave magic resistance and reflection.

Fucking purple worms make pets worthless though...

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I'm 19 deep in crossbows, but I picked up Sharnga the +8 speedy bow of 15 base damage and I have +10 slaying besides.

Should I just say fuck crossbows and train bows? Or just hold out in the hope that Uncle Oka will become lucid long enough to send me a kickass triple xbow and not another halberd?

>>123235393
Stop splatting MiBes and go watch Texhnolyze right this instant. It doesn't hit all of the beats you're asking for, but I think you will like it.

Also, the protagonist is basically Caim from Drakengard.

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>>123236416
Live by the hood, die by the hood.

>>123237286
kek

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>>123237976
I got tricked into watching Tokyo Ghoul last time I listened to a weeb's recommendation.

I'll never get those five hours of my life back.

>>123236413
If you haven't yet, save some of your good monsters in poke...ahem...capture balls before you get your next form upgrade (which causes you to lose your spells and start back up again from the first spell of the new form's spell list)

>>123236996
don't forget to resist the flames while you resist the flames and resist the flames

>>123237976
>Implying I haven't already watched Texhnolyze
I really hate typing out that title, jesus. Anyway, I feel it was a much stronger anime and the ending actually made sense. That whole bit with the surface world was really odd though. Onishi a best.

>>123238191
Its pretty good. Gritty underground city with ideological gang warfare meets really neat post human body modifications with robot limbs and shit.

>>123238492
I'm already after the upgrade, turned me into Rotting, that's why I can only summon undead.
Next one is I guess Greater Rotting. Currently strutting about with 2 Dracoliches and 1 Nightwing pokeballed. I'm not sure what I'm gonna do against later uniques though, because pets are shit.
If I ever survive to Master Q or something, I might try cheesing babbles. Should've done that earlier to be honest. Oh, well.

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>>123236950
>find a book
How helpful.

I'm guessing it can't be completed since the place_book() function is literally empty and the npc refused both a skill book and a reading book.

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>>123238191
Texhnolyze is considered a patrician anime. It's light on dialogue for most of the show, with some beautiful artwork and thoroughly depressing characters, world, and story.

The biggest hurdle is that the first two episodes are particularly light on dialogue, and if you're accustomed to typical wordvomit shonenshit then you might find the pacing glacial.

>>123238669
Based Onii-chan.

>>123238793
It's probably a poorly made child of the weather transcript/medical records quest.

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I know that Chei wants you to take it easy guys, but he doesn't want to be forgotten either. Step it up.

>>123242268
FeMo Chei when?

>>123242445
Never. I struggle to get felids to lair, and post lair is off the table altogether. The 1hko smites and lethal poison from 1 bite is too fucking real for me.

>>123237698
Purple worms are the funniest pet to use, just force them to eat enemy wraiths and they'll level up enough to where they'll eat almost anything in the game for an instant kill, until they inevitably eat a chameleon and polymorph into something shitty.

>>123242949
Grew all those levels but never grew a brain.

Is melee weapon master in ADoM ever worth it?
Needs a crapload of talents.

How do you play a deathmold in furyband?
I'm guessing there's some way to do it that makes it really easy, but having uncontrolled blinks as movement is really frustrating

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L-lewd.

>two runes, cleared vaults, crypt and almost all depths
>only one pair of boots found, standard +0
>instead find several bardings, including artifacts
is this normal

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I now know that stats can go negative

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>>123242445
anything is possible with chei

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>>123245781
It hasn't even begun

>>123246431
Try to have, I think it was 9 or 10 will that lets you shrug it off.Hope your offense can get crits long enough to find some herbs of restoration soon

>>123246886
SpGl of Chei in a GDA win when?

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>>123246750
Got blinded by a crebian and raped by a bunch of orcs.

That strength drain was particularly bad on this character because I was trying to go heavy armour.

>>123247905
Coulda chucked the longbow, arrows and merge your torches every time they near 3,000 after merging so you can wear enough armor for at least 3-x protection to negate that shit. Fucking birds faggots

>>123248406
You can merge torches?

>>123248824
Pretty sure it was covered in the tutorial. 'u'se the one in your inventory.

>>123248987
oh, cool.

I have 12000 gold in nethack. Is there anything to use ridiculous amounts of cash on?

>>123246648
What the fuck.

>>123249924
Yes. no doubt you'll learn about it when you think and explore more thoroughly or a hint engraving/rumor/oracle spills the beans.

>>123250161
Thanks. Just wanted to know if I was lugging it all around for nothing.

>>123246604
ah sweet a 15 rune chei win, congrats

>>123246648
wtf

>>123247905
crebain are so annoying in all the *bands
I think they're always fast, alert, and wake other monsters

>>123249924
some stuff yes, including shops as you've probably found

so what do I do guys
I entered lair with no rPois and there was a fucking mamba that poisoned me in one strike for half of my hp and took away about 1/4 of my HP with the bite alone, I managed to escape, defeated a ghost camping the stairs to lair, but now I sorta want to go back to Lair, but there's no way I can deal with the mamba

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Now I just have to figure out how to bless water myself. Probably has to do with Tyr's altar. So this isn't the scroll that IDs your whole inventory then. Damn.

>>123251087
How many tiles is it from the stairs? You can probably tele before going down and start on L:2. rPois helps, but mambas are cunts anyway since they are really fast and do a shitload of damage. Try hexing it if the % is good. Screenshots always help.

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>>123251321
change of situation, decided to finish clearing D:9
>Hill Giant appears!
I just run to the stairs
>Troll appears
literally in front of me, so I pillar danced for a while, finally managed to enter the lair and now that's the situation

>>123251450
I think I'm gonna tele and just chug cure potions, I've got 5

>>123251450
Fuck him in the tailpussy

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>>123251529
>>123251587

lmao I killed it
I guess I got the worst rolls possible before, didn't even use the potion this time

>>123251450
>>123251652
Yeah, hd can be a bitch sometimes..
Also remember to stop training invo at lvl 10 - 12

>>123251717
now I just wanted to get it to 4, because with 4% chance at 3 earlie I failed twice in a row during that ghost fight trying to invoke divine shield

>>123251717
Muh divine shield and cleansing flame doe... I must purify the skellingtons.

>>123251321
Scrolls of identify have a chance of identifying your whole inventory, which changes depending on the B/U/C status of the scroll. B/U/C changes the behaviour of a lot of items really.

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>>123251803
>he doesn't recruit skellingtons to wage holy war against the unwashed hordes
daily reminder that skeletons are always at the top of their physical and mental game and can use their ribcages as xylophones to demoralize the enemy.

>>123252054
>You'll never be Jones bones the Skeletal bard in some RPG adventure.
Why even not live?

>>123236727
Anon doesn't know shit about what he's talking about.
More news at 11.

>>123251801
I didnt mean now, i am just saying in general, getting it to 10 - 12 puts your abilities to fail rate around 3% if i remember correctly

>>123251803
M-muh get fucking gud, fucking tso isnt even required to clear hell/pand/abyss for end game runes..

>>123252216
The guy is a fucking human and obviously doing well enough given his level and defenses, why spout meme advice at him when he didn't even ask for it?

>>123252354
I am not? Im just telling him what to do so he doesnt waste xp much and maybe he didnt know about it? Im just giving helpful advice for stuff to remember, chill out

>>123252354
We must sacrifice others to the memes or we will be consumed in their stead.

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So can these fuckers be feared or do I have to waste a blink?

>>123252608
Berserk dudes are immune to fear. You need to blink. What an awful situation.

>>123252608
They can, but you can't fear zerk enemies. They are also so fast that a single blink won't save you on its own.

>>123252608
There was clearly a point where it was time for recieve corpses and animate dead and it's passed.

>>123252608
R I P

>>123252731
>>123252742
>>123252767
Yeah ended up having to read 2 blinks and now I've got no more.
Stupid, stupid decisions led me to this point.

>>123252895
Blame your knife-ear heritage. Atl east you've learned to respect wolf spiders and jumping spiders. Especially jumping spiders.

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>>123252895

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Poor Percy. Totally canon!

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>>123253097
If only he possessed a manly vigor worthy of his great labor..

>>123252354
chill anon, I'm a fucking casual, I just wanted to roleplay as a HuGl of TSO
I completely forgot about 10 invo thing

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Just got into DCSS. It's my first rougelike and I'm enjoying it a lot. I don't have much of a clue as to what I'm doing though. Wiki suggested I do a few runs as a Troll Berserker to get a feel of the game. This is the furthest I've managed to get so far, mostly due to this quarterstaff I picked up off some crazy guy that caused all sorts of status ailments and debuffs. I was training maces at first, but jacked up quarterstaffs after finding it

I was wondering if I could get some tips? Not entirely sure what I'm doing. I was kind of just autoexploring until a filled out the whole map of each floor, killing everything I came across and picking up whatever I found (Except for armor as nothing seemed to fit me) before heading to the next floor

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Well I guess I'm not going back up this way then....

>>123253854
Unarmed combat.Don't forget to activate trog's hand for regen and summon a brother or two before shit hits the fan instead of after.

>>123253854
Youre a troll, dont use that staff, your claws do a lot of dmg. Train unarmed combat for that obviously. Use trog hand for the mr and regen when in sticky situations, brother in arms to summon minions to aid you if in even more sticky situation, otherwise just berserk thru stuff. Use berserk accordingly to the situation and stuff you see.
Use the scrolls in your inventory of which you have 2 or more but on a fully explored level, incase one of the scrolls is tp and it teleports you to some shit spot. Use id scrolls on pots first, then scrolls then everything else according to what you need. Never drink non-identified potions. Thats pretty much it to begin with, for everything else and more read the dcss pasta in the op its rly informative

>>123253854
Typically, for a melee start character like a troll, you'll pick 1 form of melee skill. Trolls should nearly always pick unarmed combat, since they have extremely sharp claws that give HUGE bonuses to UC. Don't split your experience between several different melee types unless what you find is truly worth it, but I don't think there is anything you can find on a troll that will trump their innate claws. Just pick 1 and stick with it! Especially if you're berserker, since papa trog will provide. As for what to do, your first matter of business is always find a god. Since you have trog, your next step is finding the lair of beasts, between D8 and 11. If you can finish lair, come back and we'll dump more information on you.

>>123254165
>>123254123
>>123253956

Alright, thanks a bunch guys! I'll do another run focusing on unarmed and see how I fare. Might report back

>>123254241
Oh one thing that >>123254165 didnt point out, when youre in lair and you are facing hydras, maybe switch to some other weapon other than your claws because your claws are sharp enough to rip the hydras head off and make it grow 2 heads, so to stop that just switch to a non-slicing weapon like that quatterstaff you have or throw stuff at her, but just use the staff and kill it fast and you should be fine

>>123252054
someone post that after battle rattle image

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>>123254404
Why are skeletons so based?

Speaking of new players the pasta needs to be updated.

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How am I to harvest this beautiful creature's hide? Is there a chance to drop it? Or am I forgetting a # command.

havent played cata in a while so i download the experimental. when i go to the options menu it now blinks and refreshes when i move the curser. and when i change the resolution the window size stays the same but the font gets all scrunched up

>>123254648
>cursor
Look at this fag

>>123254648
Did you restart cata after making the changes?

>>123254648
nevermind i just mixed up width and height

the thing refreshing weirded me out tho

zlevels and npcs when? want to shill this whenever fallout gets brought up

>>123254958
i also just downloaded a fallout 2 resolution scaler patch 15 minutes ago so i was paranoid that i had somehow borked my resolution

>>123254958
Unless you learn to code and go on a coding frenzy for 6 years it will never ever be even remotely in the vaguest way able to hold its weight. I'm sorry but this is how open source projects are.

>>123254640
Nevermind, the orange dragon there dropped her scales. Looks like it's just chance based.

>>123254640
You get a chance when you kill it and that's it. It's better to polymorph into one, lay some eggs and wait for them to hatch, then level them up until they become full fledged dragons and then starve them to death so your god won't be mad at you killing them.

>>123255108
>Starving your children to death so you can skin them and wear their hides

Dude. What the fuck.

>>123255165
One does what one must to be the best there ever was.

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>>123255108
This is one of those moments where I can see why you'd do that, but also understand how awful that sounds to someone who doesn't understand nethack.

>>123255108
Spoiler that shit anon.
Also she generated hostile.

>>123254640
Sadly, you don't. Dragons have a good chance of dropping their scales on death, you got unlucky. Their corpses also always convey the appropriate resistances when eaten, but some can't be gained this way.
Don't worry, you'll find many more in just a few floors :^)

>>123255108
>Going through all that effort and risk with polymorphs
>When you can generate an infinite amount of them in literally 0 turns
It's not like they're exceptionally hard to kill, just a bit tanky. I have more trouble with T's because those fucks are skilled in spears and keep poking me in the butt when i least expect it

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>>123255391
Are you :^)ing me because of this floor?

>>123255520
Whoops, died to a pair of minotaurs. Those things hit fucking hard.

>>123255520
Yep. Be sure to watch out for R and L, one is a huge annoyance and the others are bastards-
>>123255625
Oh. Man that sucks, you were doing so well. Yeah, minotaurs are big assholes, so much that they're used to gauge the effectiveness of AC
Also every level after the castle has a guaranteed minotaur in it

Do you know what Elbereth is?

>>123255486
>When you can generate an infinite amount of them in literally 0 turns
Genocide scrolls aren't guaranteed. Polytraps are.

>>123255750
Yeah I use Elbereth whenever my HP gets low in a fight, but I know some monsters don't respect it- namely elves and I figure other humanoids won't similarly.

I should probably have engraved, but I figured I could take it out, took 34 damage in one round. Now I know not to fuck around with those big Hs though.

>>123255750
He spent 900 g at the oracle to know what elbereth is
I think he knows

>>123255852
Think he just read it in the Guidebook actually.

Oh wait you mean confused thronerooms

Man nethack has a shitton of exploits, that's why I play dyna

>>123255852
He double knows it now. that's like, 67% know. If he gets it again he'll have it at 75% know!

>>123255852
>>123255892
>>123255962
I got it from both!
>implying knowledge of elbereth wasn't nerfed to 30/40% etc. by pip in 4.0

>>123255962
Honestly playing nethack unspoiled is one of the worst tortures I can think of
So many pointless and stupid deaths

>>123255846
You should probably experiment a bit with engraving and how it works/how fast it is. I'll give you some pointer because it's useful:
there are three "levels" of engraving: Writing in the dust, engraving in the floor and burning in the floor. The first two can be wiped off, but engravings take a lot longer for that to happen. Messages burned in the floor are permanent. Your fingers are the best way to write in the dust, and they're also the fastest writing method. There are several ways to engrave in the floor, some of them faster than the others, you just have to use your head to figure out which is which.
If you find yourself in a tight spot during a fight, there are a few 1-turn methods to engrave elbereth and save your ass, so you better experiment with it

>>123256049
It's kind of immersive in a way though. To be inquisitive and cautious rather than whar mer tl;dr minmax powergayman guido!!

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>>123256049
I'm having fun learning and gleaning hints here and there and a few from the thread too. I seem to be slowly improving and figuring more stuff out.

I just wish you could get a more specific description of some of the monsters 'cus some of these things are completely indecipherable. I had to google Aleeix or whatever to know what it was.

>>123244437
Please respond.

>>123256189
I already know that finger engraving is the fastest and that you can use a weapon to carve into the floor but it takes a while (see the Ogre King death).
I noticed you can use a wand of fire to engrave too.
I almost always use ^E to engrave unless I have a spare weapon and want to make a safe room to rest in for a while.
I could definitely see burning being useful for blocking off stashes and stuff though. Still haven't found a good place to make a stash so far though.

>>123256451
Using weapons is a bad idea as it lowers their enchantment, you can use hard gems

>>123256632
Well that was the point of it being a "spare" weapon. I don't use excalibur for it ever since I assumed it would damage the blade.
Good to know though.

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>>123253854 here, checking back in!

Focusing on unarmed, and identifying all my scrolls and potions has helped quite a bit. Currently on floor 9 and still kicking

>>123254385

I totally missed this post and got into a ton of trouble. Ended up with an eight-headed Hydra I couldn't fight back against. Had to teleport away (thanks scrolls!) with my tail between my legs

But then I dropped a book I'd picked up earlier and invoked Trog's wrath. I think he'll be pleased this day

>>123256910
Is that cloak terribad and that's why you aren't wearing it?

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>>123257189

I'm not sure?

>>123256219
I'm just surprised he didn't die a drawbridge death yet. That's like a rite of passage for dwarven valkiries.
Or that he understood how to open the castle gate.

>>123257328
Put it on.
The disadvantages for wear-iding armour in DCSS are pretty minimal.

>>123257328
>furry cloak
ok

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>>123257387

Oh. Oh wow. Now I feel dumb

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>>123257359
I didn't open the gate, just went around.
Also the oracle gave me this, bless her soul.

>>123257451
Yeah, it's not great, but it ain't bad.

>>123257328
Equip id, youi dont need to id it before you put it on

>>123257451
That cloak is pretty ok

>>123257387
He has remove curse identified so he's good to go.

>>123257457
>Oracle is just a paid wiki written in ye olde english
Then what's the difference between getting it for free and paying for it
Just fuck my shit up

>>123257597
It's immersive.
I like it because it's like a pen and paper adventure.

>>123257537
>>123257583
eels/shock serpents and 1 more AC than he had. It's damn fine iis what it is.

>>123257657
I'd rather have a +2 cloak myself, but any aux is a good aux.

>>123257657
True, rElec and bit of dex is helpful but having a +1 or +2 cloak would be better desu
Besides he wont stumble into eels or shock serpants for another 5-8 floors

>>123257652
Well okay that makes sense.

>>123257771
Fucking filters, i always forget

>>123257841
baka senpai desu

>>123257652
I always loved in-game rumors. Wiki's ruin the magic.

>>123257808
Yeah. Also I probably would have gone around the castle anyway since it looked incredibly dangerous and I lost my dragon pet when I fell down a chute.
Turns out the minotaurs on the other side were just as bad though!

>>123257940
I like them too, though I'm not at all against the use of wikis. I just heard people say ascending nethack unspoiled was crazy hard and wanted to give it a go. I started off lightly spoiled regardless.

>>123258131
It's not crazy hard it's just tedious and annoying cause you're essentially just making a bad version of the wiki. You'll get there if you can handle actually learning from your splats and it'll be harder cause you have less min/maxed shit.

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I've never been this deep. It's late at night and all these darkness themed monsters are spooking the shit out of me

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Should I keep going through the Lair or try out the Shoals?

Also does Trog dislike wands? I've not used them at all just in case, and I'm starting to run short on inventory room

>>123258372
do shoals after lair, orcs, rest of dungeon and the other branch that will spawn in lair

>>123258372
also no, wands and evokables are not hated by trog and are usually worth training the skill for

>>123258372
No, clear lair first, then orcs, then rest of dungeon and then go into shoals or spider/snake, which ever of theese you get
And no, trog doesnt dislike wands

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>>123258358
It gets worse. It always gets worse. If the stress is getting to you, take a break rather than splat from a fatigue related bad decision.

>>123258372
>A dungeon features only one of the Shoal and Swamp branches.

That's good for making the game playable without spoilers, but that's pretty un-immersive

>>123258372
God fucking... Read the pastebin.

>>123205147
No, the guy is actually super nice, I believe he is on a doctorate, and he actually took 6 months off to work on URR.

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>>123258714

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>>123258714
Dont bully new people!

>>123258754
>>123258912
They're the ones that need it the most

>>123258358
The lower levels in Sil are seriously spooky. I love it.
>>123258652
>someone saved my shitty image
Seriously though, fuck those things. Even with radius 4 light I wouldn't want to fight one without stabbing it unaware.
>>123258372
Put your points into dexterity when you level up please. Nigga walking around with cheistrength and no evasion.
Also do read the pasta, it's very helpful without being spoilery.

How do you fight iron golems as a melee fighter? I'm in Dis:7, not even quarter of the map revealed and I already have to fight a fourth one. I'm sure to run out of consumables at this pace, likely die too.

>>123259786
The worst part is you're like oh, it's some some shitty rakuo or a shadow spider so you tab it then 5 corrosions later....

>>123259934
Unless they were buffed recently then just hit them? Have you not enchanted your 1-h weapon?

>>123259934
>iron golems
iron giants of course

>>123260007
I meant iron giants, I clearly lose straight melee 1v1s against them. I'm playing trunk.

>>123260007
>tabbing
>sil
>tabbing darkness creatures you're not sure of
>sil
>>123259934
>>123260236
They're like Shard Shrikes, except you can actually outrun them.
Just avoid them if possible.
4 iron giants is insane though. post dump?

Anyone have a link to a pirated version of Cardinal Quest 2?

Any guys here touched CoE4 ?

>>123259934
>>123260030
>>123260236


>Iron Giants had 220 extra HP.
OOPS!

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84KB, 1279x871px

Well I got pretty far, then this troll got some pretty good rolls 2 turns in a row

>>123260497
>Drop a lesser jewel, equip lantern, have inner light, sing song of trees
>It's still dark
>Whelp, if it fits it hits.

>>123260497
>4 iron giants is insane though. post dump?
I'm already dead. I played a formicid and couldn't really outrun them

>>123262209
Oh. Well that was the last time I was playing trunk then, fuck this shit.

>>123262923
shoulda gone chei. Step from Time is a godsend (ha) for formicids

>http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=02954cad73f6c5317550e43b5931e045c9a4dad7
>Move Jiyva altar vaults deeper (again).
>http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=f0b12a39bbbce7d692e3504599f33baf03ee64d1
>Reduce the chance that Xom chaos-brands gifts.

>>123263192
>http://s-z.org/neil/git/?p=crawl.git;a=commit;h=03554cad7wf6c5317550e43b1231c015c2a4dad7
>Move Ecumenical Temple to Vault 5

>FoFi of oka
>2 scrolls of acquirement
>Armour of the Dragon King
>CPA
>randart CPA
>all before I clear Lair

FoFi of Chei
>2 scrolls of acquirement before D7

0.17 is just too easy

>>123263192
>Jiyva is a trap

Of course it is. That is the point of crawl. I doubt the change is going to make a massive difference but crawl is a game about fucking up and learning from your mistakes.

What direction is the game heading in if the devs are actively trying to hold hands with new players?

>Mark the Elf:3 vault enemies as patrolling.

FUCK YOU DEVS MUH KILLHOLE

>>123263695
>Loot instantly pilalged
>Have to find alarm traps or dig the entire floor just to vainly hope you didn't kmiss shit.

>>123263789
the patrolling shit means you can't lure em out anymore right? I guess you don't have to search the floor for wandering elves with randart rings anymore, but how do we clear elf easily now?

>>123263953
They'll be all scattered so jsut hand out at a door or corner and Exterminate!

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ALL ABOARD
THE RAPETRAIN

>>123264205
>OpFi

Omae Wa Mou Shindeiru

>>123263192
As long as they're not made more rare.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRVRP_-Ik4M&t=2h15m40s
10/10 actually got spooked when the sound suddenly changed

>>123264270
ching chong ping pong
I googled that and no i'm not dead yet