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DCSS 0.17 Tournament is currently ongoing: http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.17/
Clans are locked.

Check out Forays to Norrendin if you are looking for a new RL to try: http://forays.github.io/
Also check out Demon, it is being consistently updated with new content and balancing: http://demon.ferretdev.org/

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/Q7K91Q34
What to play: http://pastebin.com/dyPKMEBv
Rogue Nexus – Cataclysm Online and more: http://roguenex.us

ADoM pastas: http://pastebin.com/VaH5UVN8
AliensRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/20ZTFzwZ
Angband pasta: http://pastebin.com/j8SSFvCT
Brogue pasta: http://pastebin.com/nkUaca3N
Cataclysm DDA pasta: http://pastebin.com/UAqhKZfc
Caves of Qud pasta: http://pastebin.com/0ExECmUn
DCSS pasta: http://pastebin.com/6Nz5cuww
DF Adventure Mode pasta: http://pastebin.com/7HB7Tc1y
DoomRL pasta: http://pastebin.com/2vZsvsfD
Elona pasta: http://pastebin.com/tU9qkAqt
InCaveAd pasta: http://pastebin.com/HeDX5yNK
Incursion pasta: http://pastebin.com/Q87xYnBq
Infra Arcana pasta: http://pastebin.com/jMb7fZfN
IVAN pasta: http://pastebin.com/GnJeGWTT
MaiDenSnow Eve pasta: http://pastebin.com/BJFyCUnS
NetHack pasta: http://pastebin.com/XRp5mBhz
Omega pasta: http://pastebin.com/0vkDNuyX
One Way Heroics pasta: http://pastebin.com/jFh3nrxy
PosChengband: http://pastebin.com/ZLZZz45j
Prospector pasta: http://pastebin.com/DjPrRQu8
Sil pasta: http://pastebin.com/NRyD5jtt
ToME 4 pasta: http://pastebin.com/GVDJksuM
UnReal World pasta: http://pastebin.com/QfgkYkNA

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I hope you cast a lot of neat spells, anonymous!
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Got faith and now a robe of resistance. 3 runes in the bag.
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>>122407423
Spoke too soon. 11/23 and an own fault agaisnt a cyclops. Shouldn't have tried to skimp.
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>>122407340
crystal magic 4eva
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>>122407646
bottom right lookslike a guy riding on some kinda beast
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First time I've grabbed more than 3 runes. I should probably go win now, Hell and Pan sound scary.
http://pastebin.com/NxzCM010
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>>122407646
Minerals are fucking cool.
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>>122407646
>Heh, that last one looks like a guy petting a dog
>wait
>is that
>oh god damn it
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>playing a spriggan
>2 triple crossbows on one floor

I didn't ask for this
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I am surprised desu senpai
Also how dangerous is that Urkis quest? Safe to do now that I snorted Master's ashes?
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>>122407646
fuck, I still see it fucking everywhere
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>>122408103
Good job anon
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>>122408692
Urkis' dungeon is basically single floor Daikara + a potentially really nasty boss. I always do it before Dreadfell, though.

He likes to freeze you and spam lightning attacks. Wild Infusion and lightning resistance should do you fine.
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>tome crashes for a third time in heart of the gloom while looking at equips this time
Fucking kill me
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>>122409293
Awright, gon' do it!
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>>122408276
fucking gamestop
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>>122409369
>heart of gloom
2meta4u
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Cool, let's start the day off with last night's win
Highlights of the run include:
>Overenchanting a +6 silver DSM into dust
>Killing Croesus with a scroll of earth
>Spending over 20k turns going from the castle to DL10 because that's where the closest altar was
>Nursedancing for another 8k turns
>Destroying a full wand of wishing, two wands of death, all of my scrolls and potions, three artifacts and enchanted weapons in a polypiling accident
>Killing the wizard four times
>Spending one and a half hour in the plane of fire thanks to all the log spam about conflict, while it taking only 300 turns
>Being greeted by 4 hostile angels upon reaching Astral and going down 200 hp in three turns before succesfully swapping cloaks
>Getting the right altar on the first try, with only famine guarding it
Man, my first win. Feels nice.
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Is there a stash in tome? I remember the old pasta saying something but there's nothing in this one. No link to the old pasta either.
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any tips to tome starting for the first time. aside from the pasta
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>>122410168
And of course, let's not forget the score
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>>122410720
Save every floor and after boss drops or any good find for that matter. I lost a good manasurge rune to a crash. Lost a +20 resources ring as well to the crashes and god some gimmick eye of dreaming thing instead.Pretend it's some shitty wii emulator or something that's going to crash if you sneeze on it.
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>>122410196
Well there's the item vault once you unlock it down in the Lake of Nur after Old Forest, but that's not available in the free version, so yeah.
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>>122411057
Never crashed for me at least.
Maybe you just need newer hardware.
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>>122410196
You can store stuff in a room in the sher'tul fortress or vaults, if that's what you're asking. The item vault is mainly for giving items to different characters.
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>>122410168
>>122410846
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>>122410168
Congratulations!
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>>122411616
T-thanks
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>>122410168
>Spending one and a half hour in the plane of fire thanks to all the log spam about conflict, while it taking only 300 turns
Probably not the safest way, but I blindfold myself to avoid a lot of the spam.

>Being greeted by 4 hostile angels upon reaching Astral and going down 200 hp in three turns before succesfully swapping cloaks
Why are you swapping cloaks on astral anyway? Exhibitionist fetish?
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>>122411248
Cock fuck shit monkey it just crashed again, this time in norgos lair. Fucking Edgegod.

>>122411474
thanks.
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>>122410720
Stun is the greatest and worst status ailment of all time. -60% damage, -50% movement speed, random abilities get put on cooldown, all abilities stop cooling down.

Always have a Wild Infusion(Physical) or a Heat Beam rune so that you can remove it as soon it shows up.

And to that end, ALWAYS EXAMINE YOUR DEBUFFS. Read those motherfuckers, because some of them are goddamn monstrous.
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>>122411702
Only had a towel with me, and the fucking wizard cursed it so fuck that. I was swapping cloaks because i had an oilskin on for the plane of water, FUCK eels
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>>122411474
Where's the sher'tul fortress and vaults in relation to derth?
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>>122411474
You can store stuff in sher'tul without donating?
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>>122412103
Dive Old Forest to the Lake of Nur and then dive the lake. You have to unlock the fortress there.
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>>122412207
Yeah, just drop stuff in the room below the one with the ghost thing you talk to. It even organizes things for you.
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>>122412228
I'm a level 10 cornac archmage and clueless. I just finished norgos' lair.
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>>122412207
You can pirate the gog version with the expansion and it had the donator stuff unlocked too.
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>>122412376
Okay well don't try Sher'tul until after level 15 or so, you have to fight one unique there and he can rekk you if you're unprepared.
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>>122412341
Huh. The more you know. Thanks, anon.

>>122412385
With all the time I've spent playing dorkgod's lovechild, I can't in good conscious pirate the it. If I wasn't impoverished, I might even donate just to donate.
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alright gonna get the xtahua mumo rolling!
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>>122412579
No secret doors right? don't remember a search button.
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>>122414050
Nope, gotta dig.
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>>122414050
You can look at walls to see if they're diggable, by the way.
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Tome4 is a shit game. The engine is garbage and a ton of skills and even entire categories are useless chaff.
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>>122414615
oshit nigger you convinced me, dropping it RIGHT NOW.
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>>122414615
Most roguelikes are interesting and impressive for their own unique reasons, but DCSS is really the only one that actually has good game design.
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>>122414870
>costanza.jpg
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>>122414870
DCSS is an extremely polished turd. Taking a quick look into how damage and stuff like that is calculated will result in SAN loss.
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>>122415093
iirc, for a long time (it might still be this way I don't know) nobody seemed to know exactly how ranged damage calculation worked.
Looking at learndb I guess this is still the case.
>Nobody understood ranged combat.
>Nobody understands ranged combat now, either.

I don't know how this can be in an open source game, but yeah like you say the game is a very polished turd.
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GO EEEEAST
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>>122414005
pls strim dicku-san
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After winning once as a melee qazlal worshipper, I have to say I'm underwhelmed by the first encounter with an OOF on this char.
Cast LCS twice and he's gone before he can do anything.
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>>122416517
Casters tend to completely wreck OoF's because they can not only blast them from range, they can usually clog up their LoS with sputterflies or fire vortices.
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>>122416295
He is streaming.
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>>122416517
Also, you should really haste up when you're fighting OoF's. Don't get cocky.
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I knew there was a reason I left Duvessa alive.
Second win, first with more than 3 runes.
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>>122417305
I found a total of 5 and they went down like paper. I had rF+++ and rMut.

In fact I didn't need to use any consumables the whole of zot other than tele a couple times. Didn't even use a charge from the HW sticks.
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>>122416517
The front lungs aren't that bad. It's when the cole train come steaming in from the back. Be careful cause with that low hp it can quickly go from alright to dead very fast.Getting cocky thinking you can just teleport or blink out is what gets people killed
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>>122416295
It's up already! http://www.hitbox.tv/dckn
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>>122418446
>All that shit
>Only 6 runes
Step it up senpai
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>>122418650
Extended is tedious ass. Long as they win who gives a shit.
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>>122420246
Well hell is pretty fast and I admit pan is boring and awful especially if you get unlucky.
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>>122420462
I don't mind dis all that much but fug the rest unless I'm a berserker or I already have a full extended kit to make it more bearable.
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Does the ToME campaign have an end goal like other roguelikes or does it just continue even after you kill the bad guy? The pasta isn't very clear on this.
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>>122420246
Everyone should do extended once, and he was stocked to the fucking T for it.
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>>122420751
Don't see channeling on him.

>>122420749
afaik, you've stopped the orcs, averted the crises then there's some postgame stuff before you can go kill yourself in the far portal thingamajigs.
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>quaff potion of mutation on floor one of dungeon
>you rapidly evolve!
This game has turned me into a superhero good god.
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>>122422228
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>>122422397
>>122422228
nevermind I just died to the dumbest thing in the game
>open door
>two crystal gaurdians, orange crystal statue, both right there waiting for me
>get hit by crystal spears while invisible trying to teleport away
Why, mr bones, why
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>>122422627
>Crystal guardians on D:15
Jesus christ how awful.
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How do you play in Hell? Just grind your relevant shits to 27 till it's comfortable enough?
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>>122424802
Dive to the final floor, clear everything but the end vault, try to draw the guards and kill them off before teleporting, heal, come back, buff up and kill the dude. Unless you fucked up and spread too thin you should be able to get right into itafter having cleared zot:5
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>>122420749
It has a victory screen, but the game doesn't end there. There is post-game content like Atamawhatsit the golem in the golem graveyard, and you can also pick a fight with the wizardgoddess of the magic city.

There might be an option to retire after winning, too, but I'm not sure.
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>>122416198
Rev up that final solution, lad. It's genocide time.
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>>122424802
Dive to the last floor, magic map to find the vault and try to clear out anything that might intrude on you when you're making an attempt on the vault. Haste up when you go in the vault, and make sure you're really liberal with your teleports and blinks, since these are extremely dangerous areas. These vaults will be filled with tormentors, hellions, shadow demons and so on and you do NOT want more than 1 or 2 in your LoS for more than 2 or 3 turns. You're going to pull these guys out of the vault if you can, and either kill them or ditch them in the areas you cleared. Once you feel there aren't many left in the vault, buff up fully and try to kill whichever unique is in the vault. Remember that you can cheese Antaeus with a rod of swarms or curare, and don't be afraid to try to banish these guys with distortion if you can't beat them outright. You don't have to kill every dude to win at crawl. Snatch up the rune after that and make a beeline for the exit. Try your damnedest not to fall under 50% HP, since resting easy is actually harder than it seems in hell. Its very important to run at the first sign of trouble, since hell effects can really fuck you over.
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>>122425301
>>122426181

>teleport

I'm Formicid btw since I dislike disappearing. Am I done for or should I just cheese it? I could actually get to the very last floor with "some" trouble but actually exploring the last floor with all these gimmicks doesn't sit well with me. I end up running back and crying in the entrance after 2-3 mobs. This applies to any hell whether it's Dis, Cocytus etc.
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>>122427196
Do you have passage of golubria? What does your character look like? Post dump.
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>>122427196
If you don't have controlled blink then I'd just go win. It's not a dick measuring contest so just take it home instead of getting blown the fuck out cause you can't just teleport out of part of the worst designed dungeons in gaming.
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>>122426181
>tfw Cerebov and lom lobom show up on your orb run
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>>122427196
>I could actually get to the very last floor with "some" trouble
You can literally shaft yourself to hell:6 in like three turns.
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Is there a reason these monsters have genders in ADOM? Can I give these goblins the dick?
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>>122428696
As long as they don't show up in the first few moments of the orb run, its usually easy to escape them in the dungeon. It is pretty terrifying to see them during the run through.
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Can somebody share their experiences with a stabber run? I've only done one that got anywhere and I spaltted in spider.
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>>122431265
Just spam cloud minds.
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Got a fresh download in the hopes of no more crashes. Bulwark and tome tips?

Does anyone remember if there was a different tome pasta in the paste? for the life of me I can't find it in any of my folders but it just feels different than when I took a gander like 2 years ago.
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>>122432548
>Does anyone remember if there was a different tome pasta in the paste? for the life of me I can't find it in any of my folders but it just feels different than when I took a gander like 2 years ago.
Might just be because the game has changed over the years. I kind of remember the thing about the cornac archmage too, though, so you might not be entirely crazy.
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>>122427607

I'm a bruiser that can switch to an assassin when necessary but being an assassin seems to be useless in Hell where mobs always surround you. I literally ditched my spells after Snek.
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>>122433996
>short blades 27
>dodging 4.3
Why would you do this
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>>122434141

Because I have Shield. I think I can grind Dodging at the entrance of Cocytus if I want to but will I last till I run out of food? My gold is already low.
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>>122431265
I've done a few SpEn's of Ash, so they are much simpler than other runs do to Sp so my experiences are little biased. I generally start off getting a few extra pips in stealth, letting hibernation and confusion carry me. That should get you to lair easily. Curse all your shit, and start focusing on getting your dazzling spray hungerless and powerful. Ashen should help out a lot here. Just zap everything with that and stab them when they are blind, and try to branch out into some sort of bolt spell if you can find a book. Pick up a lajatang/double sword/demon whip and enchant it up once you find one and a mottled dragon armour and you should have a really solid character. Really the only for sure thing to do is get your melee skill, stealth and armour solid, and use ashen to branch off into whatever magic you find. If you don't find a bolt spell,, don't be afraid to pickup summoning or charms.
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How am I supposed to ID stuff in ADoM?
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>>122433996
>Formicid
>27 SB
>4.3 dodging
>No evocations
For what purpose? You know you can wield 2H weapons with a shield, right? It seems you do have some heavy weapons that shouldn't take too long to get to min delay, however. See if you can't find passage of golubria or some of the evocables like a phial or a fan. You'll want some dodging as well. I think you could do well in hell if you can manage to dig some kill holes, but having passage/evocables will really help out.
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>>122435316
scroll of identify...
There are some other ways to get at some aspects of an item's powers, e.g. wearing items or dropping them on altars, but the best way is the scroll if you're not illiterate.
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>>122436235
How am I supposed to identify scrolls of identify?
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Wow. This is probably the best gear I've ever seen this early, SpEn just finished Lair:8
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First HOMo win of the tournament. It's like you guys aren't even trying to meme.
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>>122435696
I'm more surprised he's not dead or enraged with having to put up with sblades damage.
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>>122436448
>HoMo
>Faerie dragon armor
10/10. You truly understand anon. Congrats.
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>>122436376
most commonly by buying the first one from a shop
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>>122436731
This is fucking retarded.
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>>122436448
there's a joke to be made about homo and zin

in any cae, grats
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>>122436796
>ADOM
yes

that said there are some other ways, e.g. reading unidentifed blessed scrolls. Also, Thrundarr's first quest reward is to ID your inventory (unless you're illiterate in which case you get potion of literacy)
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>>122436678
I tried to find a mace of variability, but I think Zin was on to me and hid it.

Had to get in character by quaffing potions of degeneracy.
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There's only 30 minutes left on newegg's black november sale, and /g/ is being slow.

Can any merciful /rlg/ friends tell me if there's anything particularly terrible about what I've got so far?

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DXWyhM

The OS is just a placeholder. The bulk of my PC use is roguelikes, porn, and 4chan, with the occasional low req steam sale game.
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>>122432548
>Fumble through the starter shit as a bulwark
>No crashes
>Forget not to go to heart of gloom
>Go to swap out my regen infusions
>Crash after a tough fight with a rare
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>>122438939
Adjust your video settings maybe?
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>>122438906
inb4 something doesn't fit on your mobo, the mobo doesn't fit the case posts, the PSU is insufficient, you don't have enough fans causing you to wreck your shit cause it ran too hot and you don't monitor temps, or you zap it putting it together.

I dunno your tech geek shit but I have 8gb of ram and it's horse cock. My firefox alone eats 3 ram and a lot of games shove my shit in. Might want a 16 at least if you're gonna multitask.At the somewhat over 330 you're paying, long as you get it together and it works who cares.
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He wouldn't die even if you killed him!
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>>122439404
ANON PLS

THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE THINGS I'M WORRIED ABOUT
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>>122439685
Then maybe you should have done your homework in the first place. Take it to the balls and suckle your new(?) paperweight or back off and do your homework in time for whenever their next big sale is if you don't pick up pieces on their frequent other sales.
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Is anything even kind of as good as Nethack?
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>>122439685
>TEKELI-LI TEKELI-LI TEKELI-LI.
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>>122439852
I THOUGHT BLACK NOVEMBER ENDED WITH NOVEMBER

NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT

SATAN GUIDE MY COCK
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>>122439968
Nethack4 has an improved ui and crash fixes.
Dynahack is like a rebalanced nethack.
POWDER is neat
Brogue has a little of the interactions and thinking.
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>>122439968
Wait, do you mean good in the style that nethack is good or just good period? Cause in that case, Infra Arcana, Brogue, and Sil are the best we got.
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>>122439408
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>122438906
You're fine, that should run roguelikes at close to ideal speeds and framerates

pic unrelated
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>>122439968
There are plenty of terrible roguelikes so yes
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>>122440527
>tfw running PCB at 4,000 x 9,000 resolution, 160 FPS on 2,000 dpi screens in HD 3d mode
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>>122440668
I'm sick of all you faggots posting 4K screenshots of your fucking pixel graphic/ascii roguelikes.
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>>122440003
THE DEED IS DONE

KILL ME LADS
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>>122440758
How else will you plebians know that my amulet of yendor brings all the girl's to the dungeon and they're like, wow, it's bigger than mine

>>122440917
Post lessons learned when it arrives, Is it 7 day shipping?, only has 1 ram slot, the graphics card is too long, the PSU only provides 3/4 of the power needed, you break pins seating the processor but not before putting the thermal paste on the wrong side and you fry the mobo with static when you go put it in. Assemble the greatest gizmotron to defeat Rodney.
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>>122440758
hugeterm best term
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>>122441160
>Post lessons learned when it arrives, Is it 7 day shipping?, only has 1 ram slot, the graphics card is too long, the PSU only provides 3/4 of the power needed, you break pins seating the processor but not before putting the thermal paste on the wrong side and you fry the mobo with static when you go put it in.
ANON

ANON PLS
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>>122441478
>tfw we played cataclysm in the only resolution it had, 800x600 and you had to manually look at the nearly everything that was offscreen but still in LoS

>>122441538
Incoming own fault. If only you prepared a winning strategy ahead of time. Punch the ticket, take the ride, Rodney has you now.
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fallout 4 still btfo by cata
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>>122439685
>>122441538
I like these panic gifs, fucking saved
boy anons I sure am glad you caused this other anon to panic, thanks
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>>122441716
Ah, that came out didn't it, how'd it go? Hows it compare to dda?

>>122441783
Legitimate raisins sadly. He's toast.
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>>122441160
well, we could always just take the 0.5 seconds to change it from a png to something much more efficient

naaaaaaah
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>>122441973
>16-color bmp too large for four chins
Thanks mootles
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>>122441707
W-well no one ascends without faulting first r-right
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>>122442363
It's like finding a bunch of orb fragments that don't fit together. You just have to scour the dungeon to make two orbs of Zot.
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>>122441478
This is fine because it's not 2800 pixels wide.
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>>122442363
So, how long is the shipping?
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>>122441812
It's a fun game.
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>>122442540
free shipping, 4-7 business days
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>>122443163
That's golden anon. I'll frame it and hang it on the wall opposite my bed then gift it to my ungrateful grandkids when I'm too old to delve.

Time to hit up those computer building threads, pastebins, infographics, and google articles to do what you should have done in the first place. Find all that stuff out then when you do, link to the OP and tell us if you found the clockwork automata of Yendor or only found a cheap plastic imitation.
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>>122443801
Megazigs are !!fun!!
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>>122443801
Oh man, can you make a gif of reading immolation then hitting the orc?
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>>122443801
Is... Is this...
Are you still doing zigs?
Will you ever even have to stop at this rate? Can you just zigscum forever even with the increasing difficulty, or does it affect their damage and AC and stuff too?
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>>122443801
Can tornado fling flame clouds from immolation out of LoS and still kill shit?
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>>122443442
I will ride this fault until the wheels come off. Look forward to it.
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>>122444131
Seriously though dawg. Get your research done before you arrive. I don't want you shorting or something so you have a brick instead of 3/4 of a computer and 1/4 of a backup you piece together with cheap on-sale parts.
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>>122444262
I have an elec engineering grad bro who goaded me into building my own PC in the first place. I only agreed on the condition that he'd help me put it together.

Granted, he didn't know the difference between 110/115v and 220/230v when he looked at my current PC.
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If I have a clarity mutation, the I cast lich form, do I keep the mutation?
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>>122444631
Well if you nab it on sale and can do it, it's pretty economical considering the markup to pay someone or something like dell for one. Just look into:

Determine if your mobo will fit the case's mounts
vid card fits the slots
ram fits in the size and numbers of slots. esp. considering you have 2 4gb sticks
can your PSU supply enough for everything incl the hard drive and fans running
What they use to determine how manyo f what size fans to keep your shit from overheating and essentially becoming an hero like 1.5 years in
All the other crap they recommend. Don't rely of Budweiser "crimp" Edison. It's your sheckels and you can get the rough idea with only a couple hours reading and comparing guides.

Didn't think about it earlier but you do have at least one backup of the shit you care about, right?

>>122444983
Save, make a wizmode character, give yoruself them ut and find out.
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if lich form turns you into a skeletal figure, and octopodes don't have bones, then can they cast it? Can octopodes get the light bones mutation?
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>>122445394
There's some flavor text I forget where about it. yes they can cast it. I think so but you'd want to check.
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Hail to the king, baby.
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>>122445296
The mobo has a pci-e x16 slot, which is the same as the vid card.
The ram is sort of an issue because I didn't actually buy ram and I'm hoping to reuse what I have, but the mobo has 4x240 pin slots.
According to pcpartpicker, what I have so far only uses 182w of the PSU's 430w.
I didn't buy any additional fans, but the case is well rated and I'm the type of person who keeps his window open in winter.

I haven't made any backups yet, but I do have a few USB drives laying around so I should be able to preserve all of my /rlg/ mspaint masterpieces.

The biggest unknown is how the mobo matches the case.

>Budweiser "crimp" Edison
I will treasure this laugh in these dark times.
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>>122439404
>firefox taking 3gb
what the holy fuck?
close some fucking tabs holy shit
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15 runes + orb as grfi
am i good yet?
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>>122446957
Well the specs page says it fits a micro ATX so I rate it a probably out of ten. Here's hoping that you aren't burned by yet another negligible difference in their terribad naming convention. Make sure to monitor the heat of each component when you're running it about as heavy as you expect to. It's all fun and games until you crap lets the hard drive overheat to 60C+ and after 1-2 years it's dead.

Dunno what kind of external to recommend. I had one of those western digital externals with the big vent slots all over the top and back and damn if it hasn't run every day for like an average of 6 hours for 7 years . I'd still be using it if it wasn't getting too old to risk losing the last however many hours of E+, cata, crawl morgues since the last backup to more bad sectors after the last scare. I'd be careful though to make sure whatever you get can handle keeping itself cool. The one I'm using now, I can't remember if it was the one I accidentally knocked over or not but it's got these tiny little bitch vents and it runs at 55C-65C which as far as I know is terribad. My desk fan keeled over before I swapped so I haven't been able to see if I can band-aid it yet. Anyway, you need to backup your shit. Take a good long hard look at everything you have on that hardrive and imagine tomorrow having literally nothing on it. I know i'd been heartbroken as hell to lose my crawl win morgues. Gotta backup. If you have precious shit, at least 2 with at least one of them off-site cause house fires and niggers are more common than anyone would like. Do your research, get a good one, rest easy knowing that your achivements in roguelike sciences will probably be safe-ish
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alright, well there's zig 4 done

only levels that are giving me trouble are the damned mummy ones, I burn through too many potions of restore abilities because of damned DD's lack of attribute regeneration
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>>122450961
Live the dream
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>>122451018
>the shining one
jesus, how did that character survive non-dead non-demonic floors?

I never played djinn, they lose 'essence' when they cast spells? Does that mean that crystal ball of energy gives them heaps of HP? Does that mean that crystal ball of energy can kill them?
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>>122451296
Wiki says they can't use a CBoE
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>>122451371
huh, well I'd like to know how that guy tackled natural-holiness floors on the megazigs, what with TOS not giving him HP
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>>122451624
It was pre-megazig
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>>122450961
>>122451624
You realise you can do pand all the time??
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>>122452076
Pan is for fags. Put Zigguraut runes on the 27th zig floor of every zig when? Bring back the 2985789298589 rune wins and this time they are earned.
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>>122452076
For potions of restore abilities? I guess that sounds like a good idea. I've been getting 10 potions of cure mutation for every potion of restore abilities in these zigs, didn't know they were so rare
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>>122452259
I ment for lvling skills, but that sounds good too, yes
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>>122452259
At least they aren't as rare as they are in 0.17.
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>>122450845
>gr
Babby's first 15, huh
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>it is time
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>>122452876
>watching a 5 hour video within hours of it uploading
Enjoy your 360p potato choir.
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>>122452876
I'm gonna need both hands for this one.
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>>122452876
that dark theme
what is it
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>>122453467
Tomorrow?
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>>122453467
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Well, now I know why Deep Dwarves are considered easymodo. I was going to splat left and right, instead I got three runes from the first try.
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>>122453512
nigga youtube doesn't have tomorrow
>>122453527
thanks
you left exhentai easy on purpose didn't you
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How exactly can I throw items that arent generally throwable on DCSS?
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>>122453848
A lot of people are scared of DD's no HP regen; they think they'll run out of potions of heal wounds. They just don't understand the power of DD of trog/makhleb
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>>122454202
"Q"uiver them or "F"ire them.
In those context menus you can press * to show them if you don't remember which letter they are on.
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Only one Pan rune and the four Hell runes left, but what is the use of partying with no one to dance with ;_;
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>>122454320
15 rune DDEn of dith when
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>>122454394
You're drunk skelepode, go home.
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>>122454394
BRAH
EXAMINE THAT DISCO BALL
I KEEP ASKING IT FOR YEARS BUT NOBODY EVER DOES
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THE EMPEROR HAS BEEN AVENGED
PRAISED BE LORD DICKS
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>>122456095
Sorry dude I already left.
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>>122456825
EVERY
TIME
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>I like to think that every time there's an unseen square it's always distortion agnes
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>>122456095
I've done it

It's fucking nothing
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>>122457289
oh.
I guess it's not the destination, it's the journey.
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Do people here also talk about Liberal Crime Squad on occasion.
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>>122458504
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>>122458504
Yeah, LCS is great if you've got the experience for it. If you get it castable and tell some people in the thread, you might get some interested folks watching.
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>been trying and failing with assassin for the past 2 days
>only now i find out paralysis puts people to sleep
dcss really needs some advanced beginner guides
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>300 golds to restore spell points

What a racket they run...
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>>122460206
oh man omega
I haven't seen that in ages, how come you have stats that bitching at level 3?
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Will breaking into random houses have repercussions?

Also, where is the thieves' guild? Do I have to break into every house in Rampart until I find it?
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>>122460342
I chose to play myself at character creation and did the questionnaire.

>why yes I can bench 900 pounds
>8 SCOOPS A DAY CMON
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>>122460378
>Will breaking into random houses have repercussions?
last time I did, I didn't get anything from them. Like, they were empty, all the time, and nobody gave a shit.

>>122460452
Oh you. Have you tried the new version of omega on github? there's a guy fixing up bugs, he also added a couple things, the best one is the tourist guide that marks all the important shops and guilds the moment you enter town. Gimme a sec, I'll grab it.
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>>122460529
>nobody gave a shit
This guy did.

>tourist guide that marks all the important shops and guilds the moment you enter town
I already like this new version.
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>>122460529
>>122460378
>>122460452
there it is
https://github.com/cwc/OmegaRPG
I remember I stopped playing omega because of the fucking inventory management.
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>>122450879
Thank you very much, anonymous. I'll try not to fuck everything up.
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for someone who has only played Cataclysm and DF adventure mode what is a roguelike you guys recommend?
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>>122461095
Boku no pasta
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>>122461095
Unreal World is an open world roguelike about action scandinavian man eating people and building log cabins.
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>>122461176
I'm reading through it right now but it's not taboo to recommend stuff
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>>122461264
just read the thing you american
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>>122461320
s-sorry
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>>122461260
>Do you know about the bear?
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>>122461537
>the bear
>images of dicks eating unearthly tomes starts flashing before my eyes
>A RED FILM COVERS YOUR VISION AS YOU GO BERSERK

WHY DICKS
WHY
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>>122461678
>>122461537
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>>122436446
>device heal ---
LOL
that shadow drag armor though...
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>>122461678
>>122461537
thought of the same thing
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> V - an uncursed ring of regeneration {SIGN OF TERRIBLE WEAKNESS}
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Firestorm castable, it's all good
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>>122464283
titan quest is good, but it aged really badly.
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>>122464609
I was going to check it out because balls mentioned it in a mumo video

I figured, though - then again, what's graphics anyway
>>
I've never actually played ADOM.
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>>122465195
Just play Elona instead.
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>>122464810
Titan Quest only with the Soulvizier mod.
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>>122464810
>>122465682
Also apparently there's a D2 mod for Titan Quest, last update was recently, even. Looks cool.
Now I must play it.
Not roguelikes
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>>122465806
They didn't fix hammerdins right?
I want to cheese.
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>>122466203
Hell if I know. Downloading right now.
But seriously, that is cool and all, but if you never played TQ before just play vanilla for some time before diving into mods. Even vanilla TQ is best hack'n'slash.
After that play the Soulvizier mod, it turns everything to 11 and adds a bunch of shit, even new skill tree. It's bretty gud.
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BIG
BLACK
KNIGHT'S BARDING
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Fire goes well with more fire
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>>122466702
No way.
Fuck you.
It's too improbable, you can only find it as a naga so you are cheating.
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>>122466854

I got it from a Trove. It is the first and probably last time I will get it.

Pretty happy.
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I found an dead octopus friend. He's just like me!
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>>122457340
You can lookup the vault name and spawn it with wizmode in when you want that shit.
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>>122467127
>>
You know what is better than finding a +5 ring of protection on D2? Finding a +6 ring of protection on D4.

This character will 3 rune. I will not accept any other alternative
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>>122467789
you're playing a MuMo, right?
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>>122458842
Casting is not my thing, although posting about it could be fun.

I'm still a total scrub and the interface was completely bugged yesterday, but I got it to work now.
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>>122467865
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>>122468037
What?
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>>122467818

No. I am playing a MfSk.
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>>122468091
GET THIS HOTHEAD OUT OF HERE
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Why isn't VsTm a highlighted option?
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>>122466702
Stats?
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>>122468037
WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ALREADY
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>>122468242
Because no one really cares what's highlighted or not and choose what they want.
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Should I still increase Dex if I use maces and wear heavy armor?
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>>122468204
No.
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>>122468327
YES, LCS IS A SHITTY SPELL
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>>122468420
Shitty japanese font fucks with the interface, I should change locale sometime.
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>>122468617
>muh porn games
Is Subahibi complete patch out already?
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>>122468617
that's what you get for being a fuckin' weeb.
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>>122468857
I don't even know that game, I think the last thing I used it for was that new Rance, or Elona if it needs that.
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Fug.
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What. Why the weird ass release time?
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I expect better results from here.
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>>122469860
Wut gem?
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>>122470073
Adom III: The Biskuping
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>>122470247
Oh that one people posted occasionall which had 12 identical NPCs on screen.
Is it fun?
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>>122469860
Fuck off shill.
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>>122470401
Can be, but if you wanna get anywhere you will need to spoilerize yourself into fucking oblivion. That game's building blocks are spoilers or die.
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>>122468285

What stats would you like to see?
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>>122470437
>constantly floods the general with the same non-roguelike furry shit
>"stop talking about roguelikes oh my god"
>>
>Tomb 2
>YOU HEAR A DISTANT ZOT X20
>YOU HEAR A DISTANT ZOT X40
>YOU HEAR A DISTANT ZOT X70
Yea guys, I dont think I am getting that tomb rune
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Can I convert this thing somehow?
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>>122471450
>inb4 an onslaught of notilesallowed chucklefucks
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>>122452876
>5h07m
the absolute madman
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>>122408502
Wh-what do you see?
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>>122471726
Johnson inspection day, in the bitch's bay
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>>122469860
>Official ADoM release
>as of now, 16th of november 2015
>with all the fucking bugs that have yet to be squashed
Good goyim, biskup!
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>>122472059
Takbir al Allahuakbar's father works at ISIS and he threatened to send suicide bombers if it wasn't released soon.
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Haha, I'm not even gonna wear it until I get good AC!
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Weekly reminder that ADOM is not what it used to be anymore.
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>>122472412
Just like there's an explorer mode in crawl
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>>122472412
>Tired of dying around level six? you can save anything and load whernever, even after dying!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>122472476
Too bad explorer mode doesn't give you a highscore, huh?
Are you going to say that wizard mode is a legit way of playing the game?
This one has a highscore and it counts as a win, you faggot.
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>>122472476
And adventure mode in ToME.
Everyone's crying but it's not like you can't play true roguelike modes in any of those games. Get over it.
But never get over the biskupprice
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>>122472412
>tired of fun
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>>122472563
It lists the mode you "won" in right?
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>>122472476
Yeah, exactly.
Except...
Nope. "story" mode is the regular mode. Exploration mode is just wizmode with a different name and "roguelike mode" is going to be the "hardcore" setting.

Face it, anon. ADoM is fucking contaminated.
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>>122472705
>>122472412
I guess that's it
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>>122472705
Plis no. I'm getting triggered by memories of the turncount shitposter.
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>>122472563
>This one has a highscore and it counts as a win, you faggot.
No it doesn't. It says so in the image itself, jesus.
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For fuck's sake, where is the goblin cave in Omega?

I thought I found it, but it turned out to be a forsaken temple, and the acolytes murdered me for desecrating the shrine.
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>>122472563
>being so mad that you lie about an autist's game on an autist game internet forum

Your mother would be proud.
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>>122472671
>It lists the mode you "won" in right?
Did I forget to say that there are settings that let you lower the monster levels and up the loot? In exchange for a diminished highscore modifiers.
The fact there's a "story mode" means that it's just trying to grab attention from the casual crowd.

>>122472815
Anon I am doing this because I love this game. It was the first game I ever won in my roguelike career and I care about it. I just hate to see what biskup has done to it, how it has twisted and raped it.

>>122473038
>>122472881
(you)
are you happy
>>
There's a crapton of popular roguelikes with wizmode, but since those haven't the meme of being sellouts attached to them nobody gives a shit. ADoM does it and then suddenly it's definite proof that it's going to be the default mode and roguelike is going to be a high difficulty setting (which it isn't, the dude literally pulled that out of his ass).
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>>122473108
>The image you posted has definite proof you're objectively wrong
>OH MY THIS MUST BE LE BAIT MEME I READ SO MUCH ABOUT
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>>122472881
>>122473038
>>122473169
Story mode is not a roguelike and doesn't have permadeath but has an highscore

exploration mode is wizmode and has no highscores

you will not silence the voice of truth, ADoMdrones
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>>122473108
The game is the same with more content. You only play in casual modes if you want, just like any other roguelike. What's wrong with you?

Are you just baiting for replies?
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THE TRUTH CANNOT BE SILENCED
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>>122473169
The argument is that it posts a high score. Call it a stupid argument(I agree), but at least follow the conversation.
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What the fuck is going on
is it another discussion about roguelites and tiles
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>>122473264
It's nothing that hasn't been done before, there are penalties to using easy modes in pretty much every roguelike that has them. It's only logical there would be on ADoM. You're raging as if you were the game's owner and you were being deprived of your rightful say on its design.
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>>122473471
>(you)
FOR FREE
HE DOES IT
FOR FREE
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Please stop shitposting.
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>>122473603
Just cause you don't like legitimate posts because they don't agree with you doesn't make them so
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>>122473471
>(you)
oh i am laffin
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>>122473528
>there are penalties to using easy modes in pretty much every roguelike that has them.
I'm looking at the roguelikes in the OP and I cannot see anyone of them that has them.
Only ToME. And we shit about ToME just because of that reason.
So yeah, 1/30 roguelikes have it and that 1 has been criticized heavily for it plus nobody fucking gives a shit about that steaming turd by edgegod.

Yeah, "almost every roguelike", alright
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I don't even know who is trolling who anymore.
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>>122473671
Just stop, please. You're shitting up the thread.
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>>122473809
He's just baiting himself then jerking off to it.
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Can you guys like
relax or something
like
it's just a videogame
okay
it's just a game

>>122473845
I don't think it's just one guy honestly. I'm kind of worried.

>>122473854
Does he have a pass or something? Do people buy passes to shitpost?
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>>122473845
No, we both are. Just ignore him and he'll go away. Bitching or disagreeing just eggs him on.
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>>122473728
No, not "almost every roguelike, which I didn't say on the first place. I said
> every roguelike that has them
Out of the top of my head Elona and DoomRL also have them, some race/class combinations in Crawl are pretty much a different difficulty settings in how easy and straightforward they are.

Then again this whole discussion was started by a lazy samefag so how about we stop feeding it?
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>/rlg/ moves the quickest when people are shitposting
Truly, the greatest thread grease man has ever invented.
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Ahahahaha! while you fools have fallen for my master plan, I, Rodney, greatest Archwhizzard of Yendoriums have successfully replaced my amulet of yendor with a cheap plastic imitation. You'll never get it now foolish mon-keigh.
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>>122474006
>Elona
Good example of a rogulike there, sport!
>DoomRL
nobody fucking plays DoomRL. Who the fuck would play a turn-based version of the fucking doom game.
Then again we could also talk about how DoomRL doesn't have a hunger clock, just like ToME.
Are you sure those are roguelikes?
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>>122474041
I may cure this in a moment with ToME posting. The East waits for no dwarf.
Right after I'm done pissing around with that Diablo2 mod for Titan Quest
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>>122474175
If we're accepting overworld roguelikes like Adom and *bands then it is a roguelike in inferno mode.
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>>122474175
That you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't roguelikes.
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STOP
FUCKING
STOP
GODDAMNIT WHY DO YOU HAVE TO BE SO ANGRY ABOUT VIDEOGAMES
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>>122474318
WE HAVE BEEN STRICKEN WITH AN ANCIENT FOUL CURSE OF DISCORD. WE KNOW NOT WHAT WE DO.
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>>122474318
I stopped being angry when I saw the (You) in >>122473471
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Guys just stop replying to this fag.
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I know how to fix this!

I'll play some ADoM in story mode, with tiles and music.
Whoever starts screaming first is a shitposter.
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I think I'll just filter "daily/weekly/whatever other combinations I find reminder" and the phrase "real roguelike". Seems like it'd save a lot of shitposting.
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GUYS
GUYS
I FOUND THE DUDE WHO POSTS UNDERTALE
>>122144249
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>>122474720
if you announce your filters people are going to use slight variations of that phrase to get through your filters, anon.

Like using "dai(capital I)y" etc.

Never announce your filters.

Anyway, why don't we allow "roguelites" here? The barrier between REAL MAN ROGUELIKES and sissy boy roguelites is kinda thinning at the edges as far as I can see.
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>>122471726
Loss edit.
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Sorry I'm starting so late. This is for the anons who starved to death.

>>122473471
>>122473603
>>122473809
>>122473931
>>122474041
>>122474318
>>122474431
I hope that one day you retards learn that the way to deal with shitposting is to report, hide, and ignore- then post some fucking Roguelikes instead of bitching about it endlessly.
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>>122475000
his name is dreemur on crawl.
I occasionally indulge in undertale related images.
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>>122475105

>post some fucking Roguelikes instead of bitching about it endlessly
>posts Brogue
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>>122475105
>>>122473471(You)
>>>122473603
>>>122473809(You)
>>>122473931(You)
>>>122474041(You)
>>>122474318(You)
>>>122474431

you activated my trap card!
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>>122475175
>literally made to be as close to Rogue as possible because the author lost his copy of Rogue
>"not a roguelike"
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>>122475000
I actually hate the guy who spams his undertale pics in this thread. It hurts that you think I'm him. Almost as much as it hurts how much all of this is not roguelikes.
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>>122475240
>in the end, anon disconvers that all the posts in the thread were made by him
>>122475451
That's true, goats are definitely not a roguelike. Sometimes it's fun to post them though.
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>take a two hour nap
>thread erupts into rudeposting and badfeels
/rlg/ pls
you are better than this
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>>122475004
We could talk about a roguelite general with those guys from the new Binding of Isaac and Indie generals. I'm sure some of them would be interested.
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Has anyone played ToME with the Uniques, or "everything is unique" addon? It's crazy. You finish Old Forest at like level 45.
Then get promptly fuckraped by insane rares. I never made it past T1.
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>>122475562
Considering how all roguelikes are built on punishment, bad feels are an appropriate discussion point.
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>>122475604
please stop.
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>>122475706
That way we could redirect the roguelite fags into their own thread instead of just shooing them away since that's a bit rude.
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>>122475562
Man I find Iroe's gross body disproportionately attractive.
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>>122475693
I won it with my old oozemancer. It was fun.
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>>122475798
Why isn't there a roguelite thread anyway?

There are tons of them to talk about.
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>>122475817
Yeah I only tried it with some basic race/classes because I had nothing unlocked yet.
Might give it another go after playing some "normal" ToME. I hope it works with 1.3.1
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>>122476049
Here, I found my old sheet.
http://te4.org/characters/64083/tome/5c38547e-13b3-4ee9-8740-2cfd5d55d910
>2 years ago
Man, I haven't played ToME since forever.
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>>122476252
>Awakened Staff of Absorption
>oozemancer
what the fuck how
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>>122476252
Speaking of ToME, the pasta tells me to go back West right away to fight new bosses and finish up some stuff.
I'm guessing I should do that, huh? I got a quest to find some shit for that but I don't know where to look.
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>>122475804
>gross
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>>122475964
Because roguelites all have comparatively poor replayability, lack the depth to promote durable discussion, and generally are real time and the decisions and situations aren't ones you can request assistance in.

People stop playing Binding of Isaac after they get all the achievements, the posts are only about sick loot and don't promote discourse. They're kind of seasonal, if that makes any sense.
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>>122476394
She's canonically bad looking. It is said so in the show.
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>>122476368
Don't ask me anything, I haven't played in too much to remember.

>>122476361
oh man, that was fun. I basicially turned on always uniques to get some randart drops that gave +magic but weren't intrinsically magic, because, eh. I was antimagic. It took me about two weeks of farming to get enough juice, then I had to get hit by an elemental with lightning for some infusion that gave +magic for x seconds every time you got hit. It was crazy, but that has to be one of the greatest achievements I ever had in a roguelike. I'm proud of that little dude.

But hey, I wanted to grab that stupid staff so I could read the murals in the sher'tul fortress.
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>>122476368
Nevermind, found the Vor Armory, I'm guessing that's it.
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In cata, how do you see the rest of the item specs when picking items up? It only lists up to protection on each piece of equipment unless I pick it up and inspect it in my inventory.

I tried > and <.
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>>122476714
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>>122476583
Canon is a big bully.
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>>122476583
then the show is low test as fuck
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>>122474426
Did I do something wrong when I replied to him?

I was only trying to meme.

I forgot to say "sounds like a roguelike to me" after the >tired of fun
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>FoAM of Cheibriados
Does it get any harder than this?
MuMo doesn't count
>>
I found that the classic version that's free to download is pretty much just an updated version of the old ADOM.
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>>122477468
Every version is just an update version of old ADoM, don't believe the shitposter.
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>>122477375
FeAM
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>>122477375
What about FaM TbH?
Or SmH FaM.
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desu baka senpai kek
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o jesus
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>>122478002
rip in shit
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>>122478002
LAD
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>>122478002
They're ... fighting? I don't even know.
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>>122478309
Why le fug are you still there
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>>122478507
I'm not, I ran away but one of them followed me. He's at like 20% and I'm doing my best not to die.
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>>122478623
So yeah, there's like no chance for me to complete the armoury. Hurrr. Died twice.
I think I'm on my last life, got the fuck out. Went back in. Dragons still there.
Just fuck my shit up.
>>
>finally watched Plastic Nee-san after posting that picture all this time
That was pretty great. School Nurse-sensei a best.

Is the manga any good?

>>122478309
Friendly fire's a bitch.
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>>122479040
You need to complete the armory to go back west. Have you done all of the other eastern dungeons?
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>>122452876
oh man oh man oh man, fucking youtube subscriptions doesn't work half of the time
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Splatted out of sheer frustration, pure fault.
Time to try another class. But there is a future for Dwarf Bulwarks, as Migimil had a son that will one day roam the lands. His name is uh... Migimilimidingdong.
>>122479402
No, the way the pasta worded it was go back West immediately after arriving East. It's fine though, I learned my lesson. Time to redo EVERYTHING
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The invisibility betrays you Maurice, because it belongs to me.
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I have no other sources of Slaying, nor of Clarity. I chose to wear this over an amulet of Faith. I am a Formicid Fighter of Okawaru(using maces and flails, if it matters). Is this the right choice?
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>>122480883
TOO MUCH INVIS
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>>122480902
Clarity is not important, but 5 Slay is nice.
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>>122480883

>1 str

nerd
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>>122480705
Well the pasta also says
>do NOT open the upper vault in vor armory it's dementially OP and CRAZY
Also you said you died twice there. Does the Blood of Life drop multiple times? I thought the standarts dropped only once per game.
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>>122480705
That's the spirit. You've done well, anon.

The battle is lost, but the war has just begun.
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>>122481247
He's playing on the ~7 lives difficulty, as many do starting out.
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>>122481247
>Does the Blood of Life drop multiple times?
I wasn't playing in roguelike mode.
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>>122480902
Yeah use that, using faith is only acceptable early on to get some good items from some gods or abilities, depends which god you are worshiping, so yeah, use that amulet
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>>122481373
>>122481363
AND YOU WANT ME TO JUST SIT THERE AND SAY NOTHING ABOUT THIS?
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>>122481247
Yeah I guess I had a brainfart about the vault.
Also yeah, not roguelike mode. Several lives and all that. I'm gonna start playing on roguelike once I'm familiar enough with the game.
I GUESS I GOT AN ACHIEVEMENT FOR OPENING THE VAULT ALL WORTH IT HAHAhahaha...ha.
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>>122481635
anon, you have to realize people do things because things are fun and not because they have to obey some rules some dude made up.
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This inventory system makes sense, but it's ridiculously cumbersome to use.

Also, how do I figure out what any of this crap does?

Funnily enough, I picked up the corpse of a gladiator I killed, but it bugged out when I entered another fight and turned into the guy I was fighting. Then when I picked her body up, it dropped the "corpse" part. Interestingly, the alchemist would only pay for the living body and not the dead one. Guess he uses vivisection to acquire his monster parts.
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>>122481635
Do NOT bully, you nigger-loving kike.

I, too, began my quest on Adventurer difficulty, but now I fight upon the fields of Roguelike.
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>>122481780
THIS IS A GODDAMN ROGUELIKE THREAD ANONYMOUS
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>>122481829
Brah, why aren't you playing the new version I posted
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>>122482162
I haven't gotten around to compiling it yet.
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>>122482034
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>>122482034
>>122481635

Just pretend he's playing a Felid.
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Haha why the fuck did I decide to have some fun with the Uniques addon before going back to the "normal" game.
Haaaaaha.
Absolute lunacy
>>
>>122482726
>keywords: horrifying balance
>>
I really want to use the oldRPG tileset in tome4 now that it's been updated but it just doesn't werk.
The instructions say to drop it in the add-ons folders and select it as a tileset in game options, but that doesn't do the trick. Do you have to install it like a regular custom tileset on gfx?
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>>122483320
I'm gonna test it out, gimme a sec
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>>122483320
Oh and the game doesn't recognize it, as in I can't enable it.
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>>122483612
Before it downloads (it goes exceptionally slow for some reason) a question, did you unzip it?
Cause you gotta unzip it.
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>>122484047
Hurr I'm retarded
Thanks anon
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>>122484047
>>122484190
w e w
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>>122484190
No problem, I'm gonna give the tileset a whirl myself, thanks for making me aware of it.
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>this thread
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>>122484463
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>>122484595
>niggerniggergnigger
heh.
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Based xom
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That's cute.
I wonder what the more fucked up monsters, like everything in the Eldritch category or the stuff in the orc breeding pits (since the tileset existed before that was removed), look like with this
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>>122484595
>>122484668
>niggerniggernigger

I miss when that worked.
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>>122485364
Nice. I wonder how all the different armours and weapons etc will look like. Especially uniques.
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>>122485364
Also holy shit if you see Eyal down there you can see the actual world map. Making that must have been a nightmare.
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>>122485214
The time will come when i will be fucked in the ass
And as i was writing this

>"Let me alter your pitiful body."
>Your body is suffused with distortional energy.
>Yellow scales grow over part of your body.
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>>122485547
>splat a picture on an orb
>whew hard werk lads we earned our pay
>>
>>122485637
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Xom's power touches on you for a moment.
>Your body is suffused with distortional energy.
>_You feel resistant to poisons. You feel less in control of your magic.
>>
>>122485637
>>122485214

Does the Zin full-piety donation conversion trick still work once you've gotten a good mut spread?
>>
>>122485757
As i expected
>Xom confuses you!
>Centaur fires an arrow at you.
>Ouch! That hurts!
>You die...
>>
Hey /rlg/, this one is for you.
Last time I played ADoM seriously was back in the old days when I won with my first troll archmage. Of course a lot of stuff has changed so I can grind just as hard, but I'll be damned if I can't try.

Operation troll Archmage is Go!

I got myself a lucky start here. This dude had a blessed potion of learning, good learning/mana to boot, decent strength and stellar toughness. I started training concentration right at the start by spamming lightning bolt, my second spellbook, on my way to teirinyo and then to laiwanoethil so I can kill a cutpurse, so I secured myself the first part of the ultra ending. We'll see how this goes!
I hope really hard I'm not gonna die.
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>>122485364
B A S E D W E E B S
>>
ADoM is just out on Steam by the way. I think I'll take one for the team and if anything's fucked I'll just refund.
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Sh-should I do it guys?
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>>122486605
>troll archmage

You're just putting yourself through suffering. All the old powergaming tricks have been patched out.
>>
GREENTEXT

>rolling everyone on my earth elementalist
>happen upon a corner of the dungeon full of enemy wizards with spellbooks on the ground
>Jackpot!
>murder all of them but one, unscathed
>CRYSTAL SPEARED, 1hko
I am so mad
>>
>>122487150
I REFUSE TO LET MY DREAMS BE DREAMS
>>
>>122487054
GUYS WHAT DO I DO
>>
>>122487273
Do not. If you're going to spend money on roguelikes, at least let it be a good one.
>>
>>122487318
Such as?
Let me laugh in advance.
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>>122487401
And today anon saved all of his money for better use
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>>122487401
DDA :^)
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>>122473728
NetHack, Brogue
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Killed a dark sage and got these.
Yeah BOIII
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>>122487673
>carrying capacity: 1800 stones
>stones
....................
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Truly, everything is unique
Even you anon ;^)
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>>122487908
#triggered #balancecrime #remove
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>>122487150
Yeah, but you get a bunch more stuff now, so I think the game is actually easier. The ice realm quests (and loot from killing everything), guaranteed greater vault early on, the labyrinth loot is ridiculous well it was last I played, maybe it has been nerfed.
>>
>a cutpurse
WHAT
THESE MOTHERFUCKERS ONLY SPAWN IN LAIWANOTHEITIL
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>>122487401
All the stuff that's added is literally listed on the page. I don't think it's an actual separate game update. You'll be shelling out dosh for playing ADoM with a lot of casual modes added on top. And the ability to choose your starsign.

Also talking about ADoM decently will be impossible for today it seems due to the shitposter.
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>>122487908
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_%28unit%29
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>>122488096
Did it anyway, this money is from other refunds anyway so if all goes wrong I'll just refund this.
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>>122488330
Absolute madman

I hope this commercial release at least sparks more interest in hard roguelikes.
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I'm getting good at killing these, but I remember the old adom uberjackal rule, the more monsters of a species you kill the stronger and less worth xp they are going to become.
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>>122488070
Not anymore senpai
Fuck hiroyuki's filters, I didn't even talk like this before they were added
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>>122488725
That was changed to be far less extreme. Your character should become stronger quickly enough to compensate unless you really really love entering the same wilderness encounters over and over again.
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Challenge of the Week this week is a Gnome Paladin, Sign of Sword with the modifiers: Grows hungry slowly, less vaults and predetermined talents. You start in a dungeon and can only go down. Only the first character counts.

Crowd mode is easier the more of your friends are playing ADoM, and harder if there's less

Exploration mode has no highscore

Story Mode's highscore is modified to be 12% of the original

UI looks way better imo.
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What the shit Brogue.
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>>122485364
Anon, can you upload the zipped tileset to a normal hosting site? For some reason my faggot internet downloads from that site with the lightning speed of 15 kilobytes per second and then just stops downloading after a few megs.
Truly the worst hosting possible.
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>>122486728
Eh don't see how they could actually make anything bad. Pretty much just looks like adom with extra shit.
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I'm just an old man tending to his stomafillia garden. Don't mind me.
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>>122489625
Okay, give me a sec. My upload speed is really shit.
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>>122489840
I will love you long time
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Never go in a dungeon without a bunch of keys.

But keys cost money, you say.

well, back in the days we used to stairdance the ID until we got some books and then sold shit in the outlaw village after we became part of the thieves guild, but nope

you gotta go in dry now.

RIP BoT. I loved you like a son.
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>>122470637
From the bard
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>oh shit interdimensional portal
>gotta hike back to town
>good thing i found that food ration
>oh
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I'm all for surprise parties but this is a bit much Rupert.
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It's weird that there's so little DCSS talk when the tournament's still on.
Not that I'm complaining mind you.
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>>122490893
Better rev up dem clouds
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>>122296209
There you go, just stupid play. Mismanaged my LOS on deep floors.
That seed was so huge though. So many resources. Just stop Z resting if you're starving in Brogue. You can walk around with 50% life just fine on early floors.
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>>122490902
A lot of us are Crawl burnouts.
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>>122490902
DCSS is used goods.
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Welp. I'm enjoying it. It's just ADoM with some shiny stuff thrown in(it's also one release ahead of the free version) and I paid like 7 dollars for it through brazillian echo-gnomics. Anyway, I really appreciate the effort that went into creating this tileset, I'm usually an ASCII fan, but this interface is real nice.

For 7 bucks I'd certainly recommend it, but I'm guessing it's probably more expensive in the US.
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>>122490902
I got in 2 wins and more than a few splats in the tournament and that's more than enough for me. Tournaments are fun for the first week though, not sure why they have them run so long.
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>>122489917
http://www.mediafire.com/download/796kc93avth57sc/tome-addon-oldrpg-revival.zip
Sorry about it taking so long, if you already have it I'll leave it there for anyone else having trouble with filedropper
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Hmm.
Do statup trigger only at levelups now or something?

Did they completely remove any kind of balancecrime?
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>>122491335
Thanks based anonymous, didn't take long at all
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>>122491124
DCSS is that one girl in high school with huge titties who would suck your dick in the bathroom if you gave her a pack of your dad's cigarettes.

We try to aim for less slutty girls like Brogue and Infra Arcana, but we always come crawling back to the only girl who swallows.
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>>122491335
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>>122491556
Please tell me what high school you went to
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>>122491556
>brogue
>not a slut

Oh, I get it. She's just "acessible"
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>>122491694
MiBe High
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>>122491556
Brogue and InfraArcana have been already won though.

What's a nice roguelike that hasn't been broken in by /rlg/ yet?
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>>122491347
I think there's some mechanic involving stat increases and level-ups but you can have them at other times afaik
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>>122491712
Brogue shows you some cleavage, but actually getting into her pants is almost impossible.
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>>122491942
That's the one where they just pass you for showing up, right?
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>>122491943
There have been 2 IVAN wins or so.
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>>122491943
tome4 madness roguelike
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>>122491017
oh well, gg anon
and yeah the seed was massive
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>>122491943
Non-runeknight PCB wins have been very sparse. AFAIK there's only 2 or 3.
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>>122491943
ADoM Ultra Ending
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yo okay what is this
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>>122491556
I'm trying to insert the mumo challenge into this metaphor but the only thing that comes to mind is the girl being whipped into a mental breakdown and now I have this awkward boner.
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>>122492134
IVAN is the crazy girl who scares everyone off except for those two dudes who didn't mind the fact that she used razor blades during sex. CLIVAN is her even more fucked up younger sister.

>>122491943
Were there any Omega wins?

>>122492239
There were a couple.
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>>122491943
NetHack with conducts
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>>122492276
He's coming.
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>>122492276
Unique monster. Enjoy.
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>>122492221
>PCB
With chris trying to release PCB 4 for Chrismas, I'm more excited for the holidays than I have been in years
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oh apparently uniques can spawn if you stay too much in one level. I got groof the goblin.
I killed him with two magic missiles.

>>122492332
>Were there any Omega wins?
0, that would be a first. Make us proud, anon.
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Tome4 question: Is it worth it maxing arcane power ASAP? The bonuses seem extremely good but I don't think the spellpower alone makes up for the lost damage on spell levels.
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>>122492425
Haha yeah, definitely going to pick it back up when it's out.
FALALALALA LALALA LA
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IT BEGINS AGAIN

>You hear Xom's maniacal cackling.
>Your body is suffused with distortional energy.
>Slimy green scales grow over part of your body.
>You feel resistant to hostile enchantments.
>Yellow scales grow over part of your body.
>Your fingernails lengthen.
>_You are now a toy of Xom.
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>>122492425
Aha no you wont get me, pcb never again
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>>122492314
It's more like she abuses constantly while stringing you along for years with false hope, but one day you may overpower her and fuck her so hard that she becomes desperate for your cock.
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>>122492674
>I don't think the spellpower alone makes up for the lost damage on spell levels.
I haven't really played casters, but your logic is sound.
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>>122493072
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>>122492940
>new (any) egos added for magical devices
>new "Stronghold" dungeon for the earlygame caps at depth 15
>rebalanced resistances (unclear to what degree this is a FK U PLAYERS or legit balance but we'll see... :D)
>beautiful new chardump formatting/coloration
>god knows what else, this is all I could glean from the teaser screenshot chris posted

I think you may be lured anon, and it will be wonderful agony
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Wh-what does this mean?
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>>122493538
Who the hell needs another earlygame dungeon? CHRIIIIIIIS
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>>122493072
Mumo is the girl you can only imagine fucking because it's not going to happen.
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>>122493538
>rebalanced resistances

What's that mean?
Item destruction now happens at any pips of resistance?
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>>122493784
Most of the old early dungeons start deeper.
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>>122493767
Thin daggers are for throwing.
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>>122493887
But it won't stop you from groveling at her feet.
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>>122493767
That's an artifact. It's not cursed but it's pretty shitty.
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>>122493767
ur benid :-DDD
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FUCK
Poison 2 stronk. How do I survive this kind of shit?
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>>122493887
Wait I made it better.
For motivation.
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is there any point in getting more stealth?
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>>122494265
It is perfect.
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>>122494240
By praying to give you more time to wait the poison away or getting rPois, which is actually pretty easy to get. And, you know, not fighting poisonous stuff before having rPois.
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>>122493904
1 pip of a high resist is now 30%, and 2 pips is 40%, which is lower than before. However, it could also be accompanied by a rebalance to the high elemental damage sources as well, so it's hard to say how it will affect things without having more info. In the months before chris went dark, he had been tinkering quite a bit with elemental damages. So maybe he is modifying either/both base or high elemental damage sources across the board to a place where he's happy with it.

Pic related, it's the resistances portion of his teaser. Full teaser at http://angband.oook.cz/screen-show.php?id=3285.
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>>122494365
Whats your stealth level? And yes, more stabbing dmg
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>>122494365
>those skills
>why
You can never have enough stealth if you want to stab things.
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>>122494565
im new and not very smart,please give advice
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>something hits you
>you die
WELL OKAY THEN
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So I always end up dying in the Shoals/Swamp any tips before I continue to get myself killed in the Shoals? Am I training too many skills?

http://pastebin.com/td18gPX8
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>>122494696
You've fallen for the mindelay meme and neglected fighting and dodging (good skills for survivability) to swing your dagger 1 aut faster. Especially with a venom dagger that kills everything early on with poison.
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/rlg/...
/rlg/ had a good life.

Aren't giants a little out of depth for a starting dungeon?
Just sayin'.
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>>122495176
not going around with an elemental vulnerability would be a good start

also probably get more defences, your Hex spells look to be in a good place, though you might wanna get a cloud spell with Ash
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>>122494774
ogre mage probably

looks like a mixed tension room he was chilling in
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>>122495245
>Unremarkable dungeon
>Starting
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>>122495456
I've always started in the unremarkable dungeon. Of course, I did some ID-hopping before and that's not possible anymore, so I guess I should change my tactics.
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>>122492674
Arcane power is awful because it doesn't scale with anything and power and saves have diminishing returns every 20 you have.
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>>122495682
SC/UD is viable to start in, but it's a wild ride.

>I did some ID-hopping before and that's not possible anymore

What do you mean?
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>>122495245
This is tempting me to play ADOM again.

Still need to get those ULE and OCG endings...
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>>122495682
>Of course, I did some ID-hopping before and that's not possible anymore
You can still explore the levels for items, you know.
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>>122495176

stop hexes/charm training probably

more dodge more stealth, as a spriggan with no ac anything that hits you would be extremely painful, I'd always keep training dodge. Try and get a better non poison brand weapon, it'll probably work through shoals but after that consider an elf and V-4 detour. I really don't like the entire hex school past getting invis castable since all the spells are so unreliable
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>>122495771
infinite dungeon stairhopping, it used to be a must for wizards.
Basically you just went up ID1/2 and hoped you'd find some good books like invisibility or strength of atlas.

>>122495842
with a troll? These dude was starving before I found that stomafillia patch.
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So, how different are the last public version of ADOM and the Steam one, should I keep Meon shekels?
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>>122495240
is there any mittigation of fighting or is it just a flat increase?
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>>122495991
The game is kind enough to remind you EVERY TIME YOU OPEN IT if you download the public version, what are the differences between that and the steam version.
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>>122495991
Steam version has the starsign selector built-in, which is horseshit of the highest caliber.

I guess it doesn't matter too much anymore since non-Candle/Raven signs are less shit in comparison.
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>>122496307
>point-based character generation
>star sign selector

>literally the two things ADOM fanboys have always wanted
>people have even scratch-coded programs to do these things
>despite the fact that it's closed source
>but now you can have them both!
>for a price, goy

Holy shit, I'm mad.
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>>122496307
>>122496452
>>122496671
Just wait for the torrent to come out.
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>>122496781
There's a torrent out already.
>>122496671
I see you're starting to see things my way too, my dear anon.
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so which distros are you cool guys running your pirated versions of shitty adom on
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>finish maze at level 55
Nobalanceallowed, but all the fun you can shake a rod of cold balls at.
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>>122496974
>which distros are you cool guys running your pirated versions of shitty adom on
uh, windows.
like, regular old windows.
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>>122497118
>old windows
You mean 98?
Surely not NT.
Or the actual first Windows commercial release?
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>>122496864
Is it?
I can't find a torrent for the "deluxe" edition on KAT, TPB, or ru.
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>>122497245
do you think it's funny?
Do you think it's a joke?

>>122497309
it's on kat as ADOM 59 (prerelease 59), which is the last one. Public is 60, but the only difference is that it's a public version of .59.

Download that.
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>>122497479
60 has tons of changes from 59, and latest is 61 btw.
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>>122497704
the changelog says that 59 is the latest.
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>>122496671
This is just entitlement. Those things were announced like a year in advance. You're thinking backwards; adding two highly wanted features is a fantastic and logical way to get people to pay for a game which has a free version, but you're assuming you somehow have a right over the game on the first place so you shouldn't pay for something you want really badly.
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>>122497805
http://www.adom.de/home/changelog.html
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>>122497887
http://www.ancardia.com/changelog.html
it said the latest was .59

It lied to me, anon

>>122497887
I don't have enough gozag images for this
have a dosh knight, you fucking shill
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>>122497887
>entitlement
Please stop.
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>>122497887
The issue is that with every prerelease, those starsign selector and point-based character gen programs coded by the fanbase become obsolete due to a few arbitrarily changed values. Now there's "pressure" to not update them anymore since Biskup is adding features into the $$$ version.
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>>122498357
These features are for badplayers anyway. And they're not in the deluxe version yet.
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>>122498045
>>122498152
So now charging for anything means you're greedy? If you want the extra features, the only legitimate ways to get them is to cough up the cash or use the already-existing hacks which do the same things.
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>>122498357
But the last public release already happened. You can literally log in to the servers and toggle ADoM sage if you're lazy.
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>>122498357
>>122498045
To be honest family, I am all in favor of proper roguelikes receiving monetary compensation, even if they are shithouses like ADoM.
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>>122499420
I'm okay with them getting money, but not with them watering the genre down to make it more palatable for casuals.
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>>122498572
"Entitlement" for expecting a game - in the condition it was released- to be good and have useful features is a ridiculous concept.

I don't give a shit about ADoM, but please don't resort to buzzwords to make your point.
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>>122499728
so I'm guessing you're not the memetard who (re)started the /rlg/ rogue-lite general thread a few hours ago, and then kept bumping it with "bump" because nobody else wants that shit....

I still don't know if board mods removed it or if it just died a natural death all alone.
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>>122499950
oh hey, they made a roguelite general? That's great, I'd have bumped it myself.

Why are you so angry, anon? The board would be better if we had a roguelite general.
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>>122499728
It's creating a bridge so that others may follow the path of gitting gud.
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>>122499854
>"Entitlement" for expecting a game - in the condition it was released- to be good and have useful features is a ridiculous concept.
The dude didn't "expect" it. He was because he couldn't have a few new features for free when it had been known that they'd be in the paid version for quite a long time. In other words, going by the literal dictionary definition of "entitlement" (which is not a buzzword), he felt entitled to have the paid features for free.
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>>122500249
he was angry*
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>>122500097
I don't mind the concept of them having their own place and general, but it was clearly created as a bad meme joke, intentionally taking the /rlg/ tag and all. It was just obviously done by an /rlg/ regular being an ass, instead of a sincere attempt.
>>
you have chosen the path of memes
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>>122500421
I actually made a strawpoll for a roguelite general earlier today and asked on /indie/ and /boig/. The last vote was made a few hours ago, and they're against a roguelite general by a single vote (out of 13) - mostly because /indie/ wants/needs the traffic.
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>>122494365
your stealth number still increases after 'uncannily', but it does have diminishing returns. A single '+' of stealth on an item is +40 stealth, and 'uncannily stealthy' means you have at least 520 stealth, just to give you some perspective. But going from your 17 skill in stealth to 27 skill in stealth will make you much stealthier, though the game won't tell you how much more. Kinda sucks, they need to raise the ceiling on the in-game player stealth metric.
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>>122500659
>you feel the memes overtaking you
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>>122501232
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>>122501232
IT IS A GOOD PAIN
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>>122499420
same here pal, don't know why everyone on /rlg/ is so butthurt about it
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>ADOM is available for free. Nonetheless I ask for one thing. If you are enjoying ADOM and are gaining hours of fun out of playing it, please "pay" me by sending a postcard from whereever you live to the following address:
>Thomas Biskup
>Zu den Tannen 5
>58456 Witten
>Germany

top fucking kek
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I DINDU NUFFIN
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>>122501863
Oy vey, you said it fellow merchant!
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>ADoM on top sellers

Woah.
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>>122502051
oh hey /pol/, that joke would be funny but the creator is from germany
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I just teleported a injured seer from a escort quest right into the portal with Phase door.

That's the most wizard-y thing I've done in ToME. I actually don't know why I haven't done it before.
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>>122502160
>from germany
>therefore can't be jewish
Fucking holocaust denying coward
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>shilling
you used to be better than this.
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It Starts Easy
Die your first death.

99.9%

Kek
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>>122502020
Oh fuck I broke the ATM...and Omega.
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>>122502306
That's pretty great. The phase door spell lets you select a target to phase door AND where there warp to?
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>>122502353
great job anon
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>>122502325
Nobody's shilling, there's been a low-intensity shitstorm about ADoM all day and people take their stances.
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>>122502353
GET OUT OF THE HOUSE LAD
THEY'RE COMING
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>>122502456
Only if you have it maxed
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Is the MuMo only streamed on Sunday nights?
That shit is educational as fuck on how to survive.
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>>122503118
>That shit is educational as fuck on how to survive.
What? It just teaches you how to play Crawl better.
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>>122495240
Min delay is very important. For his stabber, he barely needs any shortblades or stealth to get a 1-hit on a stab in the early/mid game. For battles against monsters that woke up, the interaction can be simplified to an interaction of HP,AC,EV, and weapon delay. These battles should all be 1v1, because if you're fighting off more than 1 dangerous monster at a time as a stabber, then you're playing poorly. Whoever dishes out the other guy's HP in damage after AC and EV reductions wins. Leveling fighting for HP is not effective early game because you don't get enough HP as a XL 5 vampire with average HP and a -1 to fighting.

With vampire's 2 points of difference between fighting and shortblades, it takes about 70% as much experience to level shortblades as it does fighting. With an amout of XP that puts his shortblades at 10, his fighting would only be at 7. 10 shortblades will double his damage output, but 7 fighting won't double his HP. Vampires' +1 to dodging makes it more viable early game, and on this wizmoded character EV increased from 13 to 19 with 10 dodging and the XL3 attribute put into DEX. And I don't think that EV can be simply compared as a percentage increase, because I think that there's a threshold EV where early game monsters usually hit, and going from 13 to 19 might take you from under that threshold to above it, so it might be very effective, I don't really know without looking at the sourcecode. So I'll concede that leveling dodging is possibly as important as getting to mindelay on your dagger on a vampire, but I do not believe that leveling fighting is optimal in the early game on a vampire assassin.
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>>122503118
is is streamed after midnight, when the pharaoh wills it.
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>>122503202
>It just teaches you how to play Crawl better.
>What?
>It just teaches you how to play Crawl better.
>What?
>It just teaches you how to play Crawl better.
>What?


ok anon
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New to Tome here. Was this a lucky drop, or is this gold conversion thing scripted to drop if you kill the troll boss?
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>>122503208
>is is streamed
>isis

Allahu akbar anon.
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>>122503371
https://u.pomf.io/gpcnrp.webm
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>>122503345
No, everyone gets it
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>>122503371
you rang?
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>>122503345
Scripted. All of your characters will start with it from now on.

>archer
Good choice, bruv.
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WOAH WOAH BACK THE FUCK UP!?
I was wondering where the fuck am I going to put my skillpoints after maxing everything, but apparently at level 60 the max becomes 6.
Ayyyyyyyyy labamba
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>>122503345
If something says [Plot Item] and you're guaranteed to get it at some point. If it didn't drop randomly you'd have been guaranteed to get it a bit later on the game on a underwater fortress.

Now all your characters will begin with it, which is good because the chest is the only way to not be a permapoorfaggot in ToME.
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>>122503954
dorkgod based god
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>>122504000
then you're guaranteed to get it*
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>>122503954
Put a point on Power is Money and become a walking tank.
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>>122503451
>>122504000
Oh, I see. Thanks. I was just surprised by how quickly the game throws magic items at you

>>122503590
It's pretty damn fun. Shooting niggas left and right and jumping away when they get too close
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There's nothing wrong with rogue-lites.
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>>122503954
>level 60

nigga what
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>>122504446
Uniques addon. Max level is I believe 250 or something crazy like that. But the enemies are insane as well.
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>>122504442
I love roguelites, but they are not roguelikes.
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>>122502624
>>122502494
They'll never take me alive.
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>>122504824
oh, cool. is .74 the latest version? That sounds kinda unfinished.
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>>122505540
Isn't that DOSBox version?
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>>122505540
That's the DOSBox version.
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>>122505761
>>122505745
why would you play something unfinished when there's something else available.

Apparently there's a 0.9.4 executable that you can download in the main omega page
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>>122505904
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>>122506098
you're literally missing out on pre-alpha stuff updated less than six months ago and you're playing a version for dosbox that's from 15 years ago.

I mean
I MEAN
>>
THERE'S EVEN A 0.8 MSDOS EXECUTABLE
AT LEAST HAVE THE DECENCY TO USE THAT IF YOU'RE DEAD SET ON DOSBOX
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>>122506210
> Feb 20, 2010 (0.90.4 alpha)
not really. Either way this "pre-alpha" is more than 5 years old.

I mean how bad does a game have to be if it hasn't reached 1.0 status in more than 35 years
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This character is more fun than I though it would be, come endgame. The bennus were surprisingly helpful - they ignore clouds and I can stab them for TWO FIRESTORM UNITS of mana back
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>Did you ever cast a spell? [yn]
>Did it work? [yn]
>Sure it did.
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>>122506420
YOU'RE NOT MY LOVER ANYMORE
YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO ANY LONGER
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So in Omega, is there a big difference between the Paladins, Mercenaries, and Gladiators?

Should I be picking one over the other?
>>
So anyway, since I'm not a total dingus like this guy >>122506908 I actually went to look for the latest version that I didn't need to compile and I found
http://www.prankster.com/winomega/#Downloads the 0.9.4 version.

I mean sure I could grab that other thing in C++ that dude updated six months ago, but it's midnight and I don't feel like compiling.
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>>122507227
>I don't feel like compiling

I'm sure your computer can compile it for you.
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I never played ADoM.
Could you sell me on it?
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>>122507401
Real men compile by themselves with multiple abaci and by putting live wires in their mouths.
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>>122507438
Jew dev, terrible graphics and MLP references.
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I don't know anymore. The stats are all just blurring into one giant mess of madness.
Is this purgatory? Am I dead?
FIND OUT NEXT TIME on "Oh God Wake Up!"
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>>122507775
You really need to look up the phrase "sell me on it".
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>>122507438
>>122507775
ADoM's graphics are not that bad. For example, they are better than Castle of the Wind!
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>>122508029
If you don't find those to be excellent qualities in a game then you should probably re-evaluate your life.
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>>122508231
Who the fuck cares about graphics on a roguelike?
How is the gameplay? What are it's features?

>>122508309
Make me faggot.
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>>122507438
It's been on development for over 20 years. It's a "classic" roguelike that's not a fork of a older game, so that alone gives it some uniqueness. There's multiple endings, a great deal of content (not nearly as much as stuff like PCB or Furyband but a lot nonetheless). It's partly a sandbox game, you can do stuff like build a character so that they can literally make as many wishes as they want or convert a certain unique, enormous room into a herb garden/makeshift base. Your character ages, which has effects over stats. The deeper you go into dungeons the more quickly you're corrupted, which works like other game's mutations except that if you get too many you turn into a shapeless monster and lose. Huge overworld, pretty interesting magic system with a lot of utility spells and a lot of variance in playstyle between the many classes.
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>>122508567
And it's been raped into submission by its creator in order to get more shekels
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>>122508620
Oh yeah, and there's this one shitposter who's been bitching all day about its commercial release.
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>>122508567
How's the loot.

>>122508620
Is it really a big deal even for people who aren't butthurt over a bunch of shekles?
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>>122508770
ADoM's loot is nothing crazy, there's not a lot of interesting egos or anything. There's a few artifacts which can potentially change a playthrough IF you know how to get them, but it's usually more a matter of "do I have enough time to waste to get them" than "should I use it or not".
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>>122508770
yes
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>>122509096
How?
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>>122509213
what part of "raped into submission" don't you understand
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>>122509283
What exactly is worse about it except the paywall?
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>>122509283
>>122509398
Heeeeere we go again
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>>122508770
Just to clarify, the commercial release has a few bugfixes, two easier difficulty modes (one of which doesn't give you a highscore, while the other gives you 12% the score you'd get in a normal playthrough), challenge games and will soon have point-based character creation and the ability to choose your starsign (randomized in the free version). This made a lot of people angry.
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>>122509398
>>122496307
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>>122507438
>>122508029
ADOM is worth a playthrough or two. If you feel like it, you can gun for an ultra ending.
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>>122509496
I think it's mostly because closed source code is not in the spirit of Roguelikes.
It's fine to receive compensation for your work though.
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>>122509496
>>122509584
>>122509674
So if I don't mind the extra cost, there's no reason to not get it?
I'll probably just play the regular gamemode and I'm in the mood for tiles.
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>>122509813
Nope, except that some people will sperg out horrendously if you post screenshots of it on /rlg/.
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How are latest builds of CDDA? I need to hoard.
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>>122508770
The roguelike community is full of people who are used to receiving free and unfettered access to their games.

I'm guessing a lot of the issue these people have is a fear that more and more roguelikes will go the way of commercialization.
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>>122509995
>some people will sperg out horrendously if you post screenshots of it on /rlg/
Well, I'm sold.
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>>122509808
But then they wouldn't be raging just now, since ADoM has always been closed source. It's the reason people are still figuring out if there are any unknown spoilers and how some mechanics work.
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>>122510147
/rlg/ BTFO
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>>122510147
the absolute madman
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>>122509808
>It's fine to receive compensation for your work though.
Yeah, but participating in the casualization of the genre for the sake of profits is more objectionable.

Of course, everyone is doing that now so whatever.
>>
I've never played ADOM, should I illegally pirate the new fancy version?

Is it fun? Is it more fun than splatting edain smiths in Sil, at least?
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>>122510429
that fag who downloaded the steam version should upload his executable
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>>122510368
If the game becomes casualized at least people will know what a roguelike is. And it's not like there won't be communities catering to specific games and the "hardcore" playerbase. For one, the kind of uber-casual gamer you are so afraid of are usually not the type who get in /vg/, and if some scrub came to /rlg/ bragging about his easy mode ADoM win he'd get laughed out of town.
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>the ADoM shitstorm caused 2 people to buy it just on this thread
Holy shit, what if the actual shills are the shitposters?
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>>122508391
Can't you be a little more personable, Chen?
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>>122510835
At least 2 people, I'm positive more have bought it but are maybe just lurking or just won't post about it.
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gitgood dog will see you through the dark times, /rlg/

Just persevere, and git good.
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>>122510147
HE ACTUALLY DID IT

THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>122511034
i'm gonna buy it and refund it after an hour just to try it ..
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>>122511236
ADOM DELUXE SHITPOSTERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>122511236
Then why even bother with buying it? Just pirate.
Plus an hour of ADoM is literally nothing.
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>>122510981
>personable
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>>122511034
I bought it, seems ok so far but it's pretty easy.

Might be one of those games that gets a lot harder later on maybe?
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>>122510981
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>>122511726
The very beginning is very easy. Things don't get hard until background corruption starts being a problem, which means once you're decently deep in the caverns of chaos.
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>Go to school and come home to see 300 new posts in /rlg/
>Fucking all of it shitposting about how adom costs money
You guys are so predictable jesus.
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>>122511624
to get enough screenshots to troll the fuck out of /rlg/
this is 4chan you know
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>>122512006
>go to school
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>>122512104
Some of us aren't NEET"s
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>>122512212
Whatever you say underageb&
>>
I don't really understand the appeal of Jiyva. I took him from Lair to Tartarus as a TrHu, but all he did was remove all the good mutations I got from the 4 mutation potions (and 2 beneficial mutation potions) I found, put all my statpoints in STR, and eat all the loot I found.
He gave me some cool stuff occasionally, like an acid bite and auto-disarming, but they'd stick around for maybe a thousand, two thousand turns and then he'd take them away again. I usually had around 6 mutations total, down from the 10~ I had before I joined him; most of his actions just removed anything good I got (you feel frail! your throat aches. you feel less jumpy.). Did I just have a bad experience, or does Jiyva always play like that?

I didn't even use the badmut-removal thing very much.
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>>122512467
Slimify is all you need.
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>>122512006
Shouldn't mommy be tucking you into bed?
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eat every mutagenic corpse you find
EVERY
SINGLE
ONE
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>>122512392
>>122512961
You guys know about college, right?
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Enough about ADoM. Let's punch rust monsters to death and save our daughter in NLarn!

http://sourceforge.net/projects/nlarn/

>>122513003
Also this.
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>>122513464
That's not usually described as "school".
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>>122513464
If you're in college, you say "go to classes" not "go to school."

Did your mummy pack your Nethack lunchbox for you?
>>
there's nothing wrong with still going to school
but you're supposed to be 18 to browse this thread, anon
I guess we could forget all about this if you just show us your cute boipussi
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Zero regrets.
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>>122513942
>spending money just to make people angry
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>>122513874
Every general has a token sexual predator...
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>>122513678
>>122513689
I take it you guys get annoyed when someone says soda/pop/coke rather than whatever your particular region calls it, right? Most people I go to school with use class/school interchangeably. And fuck you, I'd be super excited if my mummy got me a nethack lunchbox. That'd be up there with new socks. Jesus. Enough about this nonsense, lets talk about roguelikes
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>>122514012
He has 4 hours of playtime and it's not that expensive.
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I just remembered that I tried the game before.
Looks decent enough. But I don't know enough to play it.

Should I start with the manual, or are there better guides out there?
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>>122514012
Not even, mate.
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>>122513464
>college
>school
Dad pls go.
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>>122514105
There's nothing predatory about wanting to see some pussy.
Even if the pussy in question belongs to a boi.
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>tfw almost 100 hours of ToME and only got East once
no rugrats
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>>122485364
haven't played tome in a while
what tileset is this?
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>>122514183
The manual's fine, though a mist elf (that's a mist elf, right?) is probably not the best choice for a new player due to how prone they're to dying to traps.
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>>122514430
Probably not, I guess a fighter would be the most obvious choice.
It's just that I got a mage starsign.
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>>122514329
What is this "east" in Tome?

I know nothing about the game, but I'm curious about the plot and overall flow of dungeons and shit. Can someone fill me in?
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>>122514183
What did they do to the ui? Where are your stats? Is your name No?

I see change, and it bothers me.
>>
>>122514549
end game area
you go there after completing the main dungeons
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>>122514549
It's a second continent you go to in mid-game to do some second continent dungeons and quests and wrap the game up.
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>>122514705
Maybe there's an option to display it, hell if I know.
I just got into the game, played for a bit and figure that I'll need to read guides for 20 hours to know what's going on.
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>>122514331
OldRPG.
http://forums.te4.org/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=45155
I uploaded it to mediafire for another anon earlier in the day, so use that if you have problems with filedropper.
>>
What's the best race for Berserkers in PCB?
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>>122514905
Yeah about that, I'm that anon, and I can't unzip it. Tells me it's corrupted or something.
Also the site says it's 80 megs and you uploaded a 20-something meg file. Are you sure it was the thing?
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>>122515010
spectre.
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>>122514905
Also, the tileset makes it possible to stay more than 5 minutes in a indoors dungeon without developing suicidal tendencies, so heavily recommended from my part at least.
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>>122515079
besides spectre
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>>122515151
uuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

snotling
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>>122515063
You're right, why didn't you tell me before? I must have lost my connection at some point and downloaded an incomplete file.
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>>122515245
I was busy with other stuff, was about to tell you actually.
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>>122515151
You are already dead with any other race since endgame is bullshit especially with no escapes.
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Have I made an eternal companion? Will Boris just keep on rezzing if dead and rejoining me?
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>>122515308
Downloading it again, I'll double-check this time.
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>>122515309
but people have won with berserker before
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>>122515459
And some day someone will win the MuMo challenge.
You must have gitten gud first to accomplish these feats.
Just pick any strong melee race for berserker that you want and see for yourself.
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>>122515414
Sweet, thanks.
I tried several times from that original hosting again, and for some reason it just refuses to download.
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>>122515360
Please train fighting. You only need 2 more HP to be outside of instakill range for a juggernaut.
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>>122514160
to be honest family, I just wanted to post that dog picture because it amuses me
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>>122516745
Family?
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I love how the ogre sprites are aryan ubermenschen. Gas the orcs. Race war now.

>>122514329
I was like you once, lad.
Then I was able to consistently reach the East.
Then I won.
Then I was able to consistently reach the East on nightmare.

Eventually things just start to click.
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>>122517172
Do you play on roguelike?
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>>122517092
lotta loyalty for a summoned cat
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>>122517172
>Gas the orcs. Race war now.

azog a good boy

he dindu nuffin
>>
>>122517281
I didn't before, but now I do.
>>
http://www.mediafire.com/download/y8hyy8ihvbhy2lo/tome-addon-oldrpg-revival.zip
New mediafire link for the tileset anon, finally. I can download it to test before you do if you want.
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What's your favorite tome4 class?
Brawler here
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>>122518695
The size seems to be awright, should work.
Thanks, anonymous.
>>
Alright you bunch of faggots, I know you use linux.

The omegarpg github only said to just use the make command in /omega/build/unix and that got me jacksquat because it probably lacks some vital components. So I opened the makefile with a text editor (In the picture) and it gave me a clue about g++ so i went sudo apt-get install g++. It did something but then it started raving about a curses.h missing.
So i did sudo etcetc curses.h and it downloaded a single file, but that wasn-t enough. Apparently this -lcurses shit doesn't exist either.

So what the fuck am I supposed to do

and what the fuck, I remember I complied this on linux immediately without a problem once.
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>>122519116
Try getting ncurses?
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>>122518726
Archer is really fun because of all the tools they get and have to use, and Berserker is fun because you're constantly playing with one foot in the grave.

Brawler is great too because you get to just fuck niggas up and you have lots of movement skills. Also it's neat to see all the hidden glove stats.

Doomed is fun as h*ck until the East, at which point your damage is shit and everything is terrible. At least in my experience.
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>>122519286
I tried, but
>Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package.
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>>122519351
I saw opinions that Archer is underpowered later on.
Is that true? Because if it's true then why are archers always underpowered damnit.
>>
>>122519351
cursed is the worst
>>
oh I actually have to do sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev

This is why you-re supposed to tell people about getting ncurses before compiling.
>>
aha, it's working!
Sometimes I swear to god I hate roguelikes but finding out the solutions makes me feel smarter.
>>
>>122518695
>>122518780
Just to confirm, it does indeed work. Time to weeb it up.
>>
oh yeah boiiii
that's the shit
>>
>>122519685
>>122520023
It's generally assumed that you have the ncurses library running on your computer, but yes- it should be in the information for compiling. That said, a lot of people hate writing documentation.

Good work.
>>
Ah, yeah that's JUST as I remember it.

it-s been one year and this motherfucking piece of shit still hasn-t fixed segfaults because of eating food.

>>122520489
thanks anon
it-s good to see if was all for nothing
>>
>>122410168
What game is this I've been trying to find something decent for android for awhile.
>>
>>122519464
They can be pretty rough to play as, yeah, but a skellington archer can get the job done. You're just even more dependent on vision and movement. Go full tacticool, sniping niggas from a screen away and aiming AoEs around corners to hit things while keeping them out of sight.
>>
>>122520667
That's an embarassing bug.
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>>122520667
>he hasn't changed the start menu icon
>he is using the green palette
It's like you hate your eyes
>>
>>122520689
Nethack or a variant
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>>122520773
the most embarassing thing is that you can't eat but a single item and I forgot what that was. rest of the game works fine, but if you try to touch anything that's not a ration or whatever that is, you segfault.

And it's been like this for more than one year. You'd think the dude would have fixed it by now.
>>
>>122515151
My first good character was a human warrior. Being able to use the low/mid level devices somewhat is a huge boon, but you're still primarily a hitdudes. Being human means you level up quickly and can take a special mutation at lvl 20 which is fun and powerful.
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Well, that's what happens in Uniques, I guess, sooner or later.
You find the one that you just can NOT kill, no matter what. Impossibru.
The most I did was getting him down to around half health and then everything I had was on cooldown for eternity.
GG, time to restart with weebtiles.
>>
Apparently I can eat here, but I will be damned if I can find one of those foodstuffs that don't segfault. I guess the only way of going around this is to learn satisfy hunger.
>>122520832
I'm fucking playing on a usb key right here mate
I'm browsing 4chan without 4chanx
it's that bad
>>
>Spectating some dude in depths
>tabbing a lone entropy weaver
>Pack of shrikes come in
>HE KEEPS TABBING
>Realizes his mistake too late
>"Player has stopped playing"
>Look again when he gets back on a few seconds later
>He's back in depths but one floor up, full health

???????
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>>122520667
So can I stick with the Dosbox version?

Also what does this ring do?
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>>122521705
>So can I stick with the Dosbox version?
no
it is bad and gay
>>
>>122521680
Is it possible to scum online? Try to view his character dump if possible.
>>
ugh
I'll just stick to the 0.9.4 version
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>>122521480
Sweet jesus.
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So apparently Skeletons don't have weebtiles?
DISAPPOINT
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Oh yeah boiii. That's the real deal right here. And with a good font to boot.
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This guy just thinks I'm rolling in dough...
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>Remember kids, KILL ALL ELVES.
>All those crawling corpse shenanigans
10/10 Best mumo vod yet.
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>>122523624
maybe pic related came through town and inflated everything
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My legs are OK
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>>122523909
Hope the brouzouf was bountiful, brother.
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>tfw video card died and now some ToME visual effects like stunned cause massive slowdown

help
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>>122524294
ascii mode
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>>122522208
>>122521680
Every now and then there's a way to crash the game and reset the level that isn't patched because people don't report it since they are cheating fucks. That guy sounds like he had that macro'd.
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>>122524458
I'd rather stuff a cactus in my ass than play ToME's ASCII mode
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>>122524294
Welcome to the club, anon.

I just ordered parts for a new PC last night because my GPU is fucked and crashes my PC if I do anything remotely taxing, like streaming a 360p youtube video while playing tome4 on minimum settings and 1024x768 res.
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>>122524617
There's an option to hardcap the redraw rate to something low, I think.
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>>122521680
what was the name of the suspected cheater?
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>>122523718
>fido was actually better at following than master archers
ELVEN POSTERS ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>122524872
>>122524479
>>122522208
His name is drmcmeen. He's shit judging by his games played so I don't really care
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Should I unlock Bloodthirst or Battle Tactics first as a skeleton marauder?

The former has Unstoppable, but the latter has the % chance to hit twice and +1000% move speed on kill.
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>>122524617
Thats because its no true ascii mode. Its tile mode with some ugly keyboard character tiles slapped on
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>>122524479
It happened to me once. Not intentional. I was rather annoyed in fact.

But yeah, you have to crash the remote session. I guess that should be pretty easy to track
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New:

>>122528410
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>>122494365

Stop at stealth 17. And also, rapier is the best sword.
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