/indie/ - Indie Games General

>>122121687
>LOOKING FOR CONTRIBUTORS!!! ; )

Workin on it

Are we allowed to simply post games into the main thread if we don't know enough games in a specific category to meaningfully make a pastebin? Because I can probably provide a few good obscurities if so.

Yeah, we can make pastebin lists collectively.

Just list the game and the genre, and where to get the game if you want.

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>the thread is moving so fast

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>Brad Armstrong is an RL wrestler
>The Shockmaster is an RL wrestler
>Yado is an RL wrestler
>Dark Queen is a The Undertaker expy
I am sure I can't grasp all of the wrestling references because I'm not that familiar with the topic, but it runs deeper than I've initially thought. Anyone can point out any others?

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Well, OK, here are a couple of suggestions that just floated into my head. Ignore/add them as you wish. Both are free, and I think that both are obscure enough that they might have otherwise been forgotten about.

1st Person:

Imscared: A pixelated nightmare.
(Don't be fooled by the looks, this is one of the most unnerving free horror games ever made, and doesn't rely on jumpscares, a 'stalker' or crappy flashlights).


Misc.

Experiment 12
(12 artsy indie devs produced a game like a chain letter, developing a chapter each and passing it between themselves. The result is certainly interesting and memorable, with strong atmosphere)

4chan thought this was spam until I removed the links, but both are easily googleable.

>>122125691
Cool, I'll have to check these out.

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Absurdist Indie Games:
http://pastebin.com/NSpcTkiA

please add to OP and I hope these threads don't die

>>122133415
This is awesome m8

I cannot wait until all 10 members of the /irg/ community migrate to /indie/

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>>122135280

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bumping it for survival,

Also surprised that it evolved into indie general as opposed to a specific genre.

live

>/indie/
>not /igg/

>>122139095
this tbqh

>>122139173
nice memeposting you got going there buddy

What are your top 5 favorite indie games /indie/?

1. Undertale
2. Kentucky Route Zero
3. Read Only Memories
4. Lisa
5. Axiom Verge

>>122139173
>>122139258
>>122139095
We had a poll

http://strawpoll.me/5988063

>>122139558
this is what I get for having been busy with things for a few days I guess

>>122139408
1. The desolate hope
2. Lisa
3. Nuclear throne
4. Risk of rain
5. OFF

>>122139408
I've only played Lisa, gonna either try out Desolate Hope or OFF next.

>>122139558
I seriously doubt 20 individual people voted on this

What are your favorite indie game sountracks?

here are some of my favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqGIKlgSl1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZuI3ZkCHfs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDflVhOpS4E

>>122139408
They're all roguelikes except LISA.

>>122142807
like what anon?

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>>122142313
https://youtu.be/Tpymwvcyi_w

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/357609386/crypt-underworld-a-sequel-to-crypt-worlds

What does /indie/ think?

>>122143053
Brogue, Sil, Infra Arcana. Well I guess that's 3. Then LISA and either Else Heart.Break() or Undertale in 5th.

>>122144023
I don't know much about crypt worlds, but this looks cool and the music is good

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>>122144708
Does this change your opinion?

>>122144813
If being trans makes you no different than me why feel the need to bring it up

>>122144813
i lol'd

btw, if you want to spam your own kickstarter here for your own games or something you care about, go for it. this is what i expect

>>122144813
i don't think she should be asking for money just to pay for living expenses. she should just sell it after making it

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Welp. Time to try something new and classic.

>>122145475
i almost appreciate the naive honesty

>>122145665
You're gonna love it anon

more of your favorite OSTs pls I'm feeling funky

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>>122142313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I-5mCMmGlo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbvfsWBpL5M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5no-bvzBo0

>>122147485
holy fuck what is that middle game

>>122147863
>Literally says Desolate Hope OST in the title.

>>122142313
>>122146137
http://jeffreynordin.bandcamp.com/album/the-logomancer-official-soundtrack
https://jcoopmusic.bandcamp.com/album/the-amber-throne
Both games are so obscure the OSTs haven't been uploaded to youtube.

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>>122147863
The desolate hope

>>122147969
ikr

>>122148104
do you like it?
seems like a neat little cheesy sci-fi RPG
and it's free

Speaking of The Desolate Hope:
Whats the best way to farm? I find myself having trouble with the virus battles

>>122148273
Buy some upgrades and use your minigames mainly on charge and attack.

Can this be the home of some indie games who lose their generals with time?

>>122149543
Sure, why not

>>122149543
yeah definitely

>>122139408
I'm not sure what counts as indie anymore, and it's hard to pick just 5.

1. Iji
2. Super Cosplay War Ultra
3. Cave Story
4. An Untitled Story
5. Transcendence / FTL

maybe this is more of a discussion for /utg/ . . .

do you guys think that the overwhelming success of Undertale is a sign of things to come for indie games? It was crowdfunded, made by one guy, and only available on PC, yet it's one of the most discussed games this year, maybe more than Fallout 4 even.
surely more will try to do what he did?

>>122150704
no

>>122150558
>crowdfunded or made freely
>very, very small dev team, definitely no more than 10 but more like no more than 5
>not commercially backed
>not commercially distributed on any platform other than digital

I think it should be pretty clear at this stage. Games are getting to the point where you don't need a large dev team to make them. One person can make a game alone, or even a small band of people can just make a game. The goal is generally not commercial success, but to just create what they want. Basically like indie movies, indie music, etc.

>>122150764
y

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>>122151026
That reminds me, Valdis Story should probably be my number 4. It's a fucking based game, and I can't believe I forgot about it.

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>>122139408
1. LISA
2. Binding of Isaac / Super Meat Boy / Cave Story
3. Bastion
4. Nuclear Throne
5. Undertale

Playing Hotline Miami as we speak.

>>122153319
Also holy fucking shit, The Desolate Hope looks amazing.

And to think it was made my Scott Cawthon. I will admit the robots always did look pretty great model wise in Five Nights at Freddies.

>>122153319
Is Bastion best played with a controller? I think I'm gonna cop it since it's on sale for $3 or something.

>>122154493
Its much smoother played with a Xbox 360 than with Key Board, imo.

PS4 I'm not sure since mine isnt working.

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Been playing LISA with mandatory party members only.

It's been so painful getting this far.

Anyone know if I can unfuck my text in LISA without uninstalling the font it uses?

Hey newcomer to this thread. I fucking love "happy" colorful games like undertale but lately I want more "dark" games.

LISA filled that need. Hotline Miami too. Any more recommendations?

>>122155212
Well, what genres do you like? Obviously action-y shmups and RPGs, what else?

In the OP there's a pretty massive list of adventure games that have descriptions.

>>122155212
While not really indie.

Tell-Tales Walking dead does a good job.

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>>122150704
Outside of its bubble I can't see Undertale making too many waves. It's not a game normalfags will have even heard of, so its impact on the industry will be minimal. I'm sure there will be clones and games best described as "Undertale but with X", but on a whole there won't be a significant numerical increase in indie/crowdfunded games (nor interest in them).

>>122148104
Just started looking into it.

The visuals are great!

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Bumping with something relevant. I'm making extended versions of LISA's OST. I've really never edited audio files before, but this shit was rather easy and coming out well. I started near the beginning of the week and I'm halfway through Joyful's soundtrack, extending them around 15 minutes. I'll pick up the slack during the weekend but Painful's OST will certainly take some time. Not sure when I'll start uploading. Soonish maybe.

The soundtrack to LISA seriously needs more love. It's a real fucking gem. I think I found around one remix of a song on Soundcloud. Shame. Anyone have any songs they really want extended? Input and advice if you have any would be cool too.

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Would the core Touhou series qualify as indie games?

>>122160029
I hate extended mixes of short songs, but best of luck to you.

>>122160484
It was made by one guy and was kinda under the radar for some time, but now, it's exploded to crazy proportions. Still, I think it falls under Indie. But /jp/ is already all about that shit so I don't think it's presence is too relevant here.

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>>122142313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSnOWqTPUNQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv9f7q-GKcY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-9xbgTHpLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71u0i6J-Qes

>>122160484
>>122162491
Basically.

/indie/ is a home for all things indie games. But if there's a general for an indie game already, you're probably better off discussing that game there. Similar to /smtg/ and /pg/. Persona is a sub-series of SMT, but Persona outgrew SMT. Now they just have their own generals.

This place is hopefully a home for the indie game community and indie games that don't have a home.

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boop

bout to play bastion senpai

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Just finished this

Pretty dank for 3 dollar

Is OneShot worth playing? And is there anything I should know before playing so I don't waste my one shot?

>>122170780
Don't quit the game. The game is less punishing than you think, there's even ways to quit the game without well, quitting the game

and if you want my opinion, take the ending that the game directly tells you to take. It's more interesting than the other one, and does a pretty cool effect. However, it's up to you

>>122170692

gibby did nothing wrong

>>122170692
whats it like?
seems cool

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beep

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>>122155016
Good luck, you're going to have a badfortunate experience. The Sweet Tea Rakeem/Vic Cherry fight is brutal even with Fardy, took me like 10 tries. Though the rest of the game is relatively painless even with those rules, save for those Pain Mode joy mutants in the last area. (I'm currently at Frank Hollywood in my joyless/mandatory party only/pain mode run).

>>122160029
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTKOah18x0g

Can you make an extended version of Brokentooth March? It might just be one of my favorite videogame tracks ever.

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>>122154161
He also made a christian RPG.

Are remakes of old games made by people that made the first version indie? The remake is on Sourceforge for free

>>122176038
kinda, if you want to talk about it give it a try

The end is dire.
Go play with fire

You think you're all this, but don't know that
The night creeping in, may steal your hat

The plan is near it's final call
Come and give it most of your all

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I tould you, it would not stop
What has been done, a final chop

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PAGE TEN

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>>122186915
PAGE TEN?!

>>122175439
Holy fucking shit

I don't believe that appears in the bible

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>>122163682
Mmm mmm! Peper Steak and Amalgam is my fucking jam

Was UT ever part of IRG or did it instantly spawn the fiery shithole known as /utg/ on release?

>>122195017
/irg/ was made on /utg/ because people were having butt hurt because of OFF posters, so /utg/ was first

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So dooes Mortis draw his concept art sketchy and unrefined on purpose or does he legitimately struggle when drawing?

What was the name of that one Japanese indie game that came out recently? It had a black, red and white aesthetic, it's name started with 'Under' and I'm pretty sure it came out on mobile, too.

I remember when these threads were almost dead, with 10 people most trying to make the generals alive.

I'm so proud. Keep doing your best everyone.

>>122196834


Downwell?

>>122195017
/utg/ ended up spawning /irg/
/irg/ kept dying because, well, there just aren't enough prominent indie RPGs out there, and the biggest one has their own general.
now we're /indie/ with the umbrella that indie games in general are okay to talk about.

and hopefully we'll stay alive for the foreseeable future. I think we will, especially once other indie games begin to lose their generals and look for a new home.

>>122197769
Thanks, mate.

What indie game are you playing right now lads?
I'm playing Bastion. Still good.

>>122198381
>/utg/ ended up spawning /irg/
no? that's not what happened at all. The first /irg/ or /igg/ was made by a tripfag from the 'last' /v/ lisa thread back in early september - before undertale's release, as an experimental thing. It was okay but's let's be honest most talk was still about lisa at the time - when undertale was released it got overshadowed by /utg/ and then died. And now it's come back made by folks from /utg/.

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I added Five Night at Freddy's to the Point & Click list y'all.
Forgot about it for some reason, but the Desolate Hope talk reminded me.

>>122203730
oh cool i've just been observing over the past couple months
my bad

>>122148070
this is very indie

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The thread's pretty dead, huh.

Drawfag here if anyone wants.

>>122205362
Rando cooking Rando Rations while wearing a cute apron and cooking mittens. Confused and uncomfortable Rando Army guys looking on optional.

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>>122205362
Can you draw Dedan having an angry argument with Flowey from UT?

>>122205362
A neat OP image with
Brad
Meat Boy
Madotsuki
The Batter
Flowey (or not, I can't decide)
Turing from Read Only Memories
Charles Barkley
Robot from Machinarium

and/or other people you want in it, we need an OP image

>>122205362
lil ol' floppy man titties

>http://strawpoll.me/5988063
So are we /igg/ now?

Let's make up our mind familia

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>>122205362
Dick brutally pelvic thrusting at joy mutant

>>122205362
Draw lewd Brad

>>122207508
>lewds
pls no

>>122207825
>not wanting lewds
looks like somebody hasn't seen lewd yado

>>122208112
Ayyyy Yeeeeh, Saggy man tits.

>>122197769
downwell is amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fUtUvrBWdw

>>122211957
>>122197769
I've been meaning to play this

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>>122139408
1. Lisa (103 hours/ Finished it about 7 times / 3 in hard mode)
2. Castle Crashers (102 hours/ Finished it about 5 times / 1 in hard mode)
3. Killing Floor 1 (107 hours)
4. The Desolate Hope (24 hours/ Finished it 3 times )
5. Binding of Isaac (69 hours/ I lost the count)

>>122190748
I'd convert to Christianity if it did

>>122172294

>>122133415
>Random text generation is used to create this RPG Maker story, with very unique art made from clay. You play as a man(?) named Wayne, while every other character will have a name that you cannot pronounce. Snap your fingers to fight, watch TVs to digest new moves, and heat up burritos to gain HP.

>>122204140
but it has its own general anon

>>122202749
Still playing through Capella's Promise while working on my own RPGMaker game. But it doesn't really aim for the same feels as the feelsy games so I'll leave its discussion for /rpgmg/

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>>122202749
Decided to finish The Amber Throne, and I've got HOME on the side.

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>>122142313
Always had a soft spot for Darwinia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-JwPFmgbks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYRV-CjeBEg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTbm7fM5PY0

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>>122205362
Something with Mettaton and Hawk Hollywood maybe?
>>122206903
Or as always, this

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>>122205498
Hope this satisfies I haven't drawn anything OFF related in over two years wow

>>122216681
Ha, nice pic!

my condolences to french anons if we got any here

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I wish secondary characters in LISA got some more development. I'm not talking like sidequests for everyone, that'd make the game too bloated, but it could use some campfire banter scenes or a "talk to party" option with a few lines for each member. I get the idea that you're not supposed to become attached to any of them, but it's still a shame that most of those quirky, intriguing characters get only 3-4 lines of development, and some party members like Clint Olympic or Rage are complete non-entities.

Maybe it'd be possible to hack some conversation options in using RPG Maker...

>>122221620
>Campfire conversation with Buckets, Carp and Tiger man.
Brad: So... why you guys are you following me?
Tiger Man:...
Buckets:...
Carp: Blargh!

So what's the appeal of undertale? Not trying to be rude or something, just genuinely interested. I've only played it for about an hour some days ago and it seemed like a pretty normal jrpg to me with some puzzles thrown in and gimmicky battle system (still not much different than usual). Does it get better or it's just not my game? What's there that made so much noise? Should I pick it up again?

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>>122222846
Its good at medium awareness and has pretty enjoyable characters, music and characters.

Its worth playing, like most games in the current indie line up.

Just... try to avoid the autistic side of the fanbase.

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>>122221620
Yeah, that would have been nice. Probably not too difficult either. Just do what was done in Joyful and when you enter a Inn for the first time you get a cutscene with each active party member saying something before going to bed.

Though it'd have to be generic statements and not a full on conversation between characters. Otherwise you'd have to create a full conversation for all 30 party members interacting with one another.

Luckily most of the party members really are the kind of people who just say what's on their mind rather than have an actual conversation with each other.

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>>122222846
Undertale has its own general but if you legitimately want an opinion from here

>10/10 soundtrack
>Characters are quirky, have lots of heart and get decent development
>Game is full of "little things", reactions, results and consequences for everything. Also the interface and game abstractions are turned into storytelling devices, there is an in-universe explanation for everything from saving the game to the concepts of "boss enemies" which results in a very immersive experience
>The gameplay is simple but unusual and fun enough for a playthrough

It picks up slowly (the Ruins are a bit of a drag, yeah) but I'd say it is absolutely worth a playthrough.

>>122222846
I appreciated Undertale way more after the first playthrough.
Trying out the different paths, all the characters, the music, it's a pretty solid game.

>>122223232
I was also thinking of something along the line of

>enter inn or use a campfire
>"Sleep or talk to someone before going to bed?"
>pick a character from the available roster
>a short branched 1v1 conversation starts, with maybe 2-3 advancing conversation trees for each character as you progress through the game

An idea I had in store for my RPG Maker game, but...hah...

>>122222846
Look, don't get me wrong, Undertale is good but for me it could have been so much better with some few adjustments in the story. I feel like if the main character fell on a world that was an actual threat for him (which in the original is not considering how you can befriend everyone on sight), with actual enemies and he HAD to leave in order to survive, it would have been better. But that's just me.

Has anyone played Always Sometimes Monsters?
Looks interesting but it also seems like one of those "walking simulator" RPGs that don't balance plot and atmosphere with some fun gameplay. I still like those kind of games sometimes but only if the story and atmosphere are totally worth it.

>>122222846
The fanbase is starting to get obnoxious, but don't let that stop you at all.

>great story, characters, writing, funny, also a great soundtrack
>choices that weigh heavy on the player
>breaks the 4th wall, very clever game
>tons of spoopy secrets and weird things hidden in the game
>battle system, basically bullet hell but in-between waves you attack or talk to enemies
>short game, 6-9 hours on one play through, but there's no filler
>replayable far beyond the norm, over 30 possible endings and the game adapts lots of dialog based on your choices

It's a must play for sure. I can't imagine how someone could dislike it.

>>122225709
I got it from some bundle and never played it. But i heard its okay.

>>122225709
Played it, beat it. The game is interesting from multiple perspectives but the one thing that really drives people against it is that there's no way to get a 'good end' where everyone is happy.

I won't spoil anything about it not even in spoiler tags but if you /need/ a happy ending, I'd stay away.

>>122216681
Nice, thanks chief!

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>>122215374
>That golem thing

I love shit like that.

>>122226482
Actually, I hate campy happy endings almost everywhere except Undertale. I'm a SMT diehard who's favorite endings are the ones with the most demons and fucked up shit.

I might as well check it out, thanks lad

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Bump for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHDavbk2-kk

>>122234105
Oh well then. Carry on, anon.

There's no combat so just be aware of that. But I really enjoyed the game for what it's worth.

Even if it can get a little slow at times.

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An Objection takes place, a true lawyer appears.

>>122238501
Jesus christ.

>>122238501
He looks like a penis but nice art man

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keeping this shit alive with freedom planet

>>122241334
thought that was an extremely rare pepe desu familia

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>>122241334

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For anyone that likes tower defense I'd suggest you check out Unholy Heights.

It's a game where you recruit demons by giving them a home in a tenement building. In exchange for giving them a home they will pay their rent a defend your building from villagers, mercnaries, the local mob, etc.

It's a nice time burner and can be an addictive game if you don't any games on your backlog. It's relatively simple to pickup on the mechanics. The monsters roles differ from one another: Tanks, mages, bruisers, etc. The soundtrack is also nice to listen, though it might get repetitive as it does not contain many songs.

It's on a site called Playism in case some asks, it's also about 4 bucks.

>>122244137
kek

>>122244179
Sounds kinda like Dungeon Keeper but...in a tenement building?

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So why does Nern even have the ability to fire beams

Was he a martial artist when he was younger or what, or it's just a concentrated blast of flaming hatred for Dale Spooner

>>122145665
Just picked it up myself. Heard good things.

>>122247146
In a sense yeah, protecting yourself from looters. Haven't played much dungeon keeper or seen much game so I can't say much else.

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>>122247269
Probably the latter.

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Some people in this thread were kind of interested in that game I was making, so fuck it. Have more planning progress:

http://pastebin.com/1Fia3qLV

I'm also working on the engine stuff, because ideas are useless without an implementation. Currently struggling with getting movement in the game to feel natural.


This is probably something I should take to /agdg/ but that general is basically made of cancer and we need content anyways

Have an image of a game I'm ripping off as penance

>>122252439
so you've got some cool ideas, have you started developing the game in a concrete way?

>>122253304
Fucking around with Unity right now, so yes.

C# is actually such a nice language. I've never used it before and I've been very satisfied so far.

I'm still trying to learn the ropes of the APIs it provides, but it's simple enough. Then I guess the main problem is organizing all the data and such.

>>122253592
so the premise is more sci-fi than fantasy?

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I didn't know this general existed. I beat LISA the Joyful last night.

meh

>>122255895
ye welcome
shitpost about whatever indie games you like

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>>122255895
Was it worth it Anon?

Did you end up taking Joy?

Did you get pissed when rando died?

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>>122256186
Never took any joy. Watching how much Rando had to deal with Buddy's shit killed me more than anything.

i just want them to be a cool bro/sis fighting team ;-;

>>122254649
Yes.

That's the goal, anyway.

>>122256785
I want to make music for you

>>122258013
That would be pretty damn awesome.

How would you like to get into contact?

>>122259704
i post in /prod/ on /mu/ in their irc
but you can email [email protected] for something concrete
just tell me what to make and I'll do it

>>122260420
Just sent you an email.

I'm playing LISA for the first time

no spoilers if possible, does taking JOY fuck up my ending, should I avoid doing it

>>122261579
There is a ending if you take joy and a ending if you dont take joy/

saving bump

Does anyone know any good indie turn based strategy games? I feel like the genre as a whole is dying out, want to know if any more 'niche' devs are still going with it?

>>122269310
Obligatory Battle for Wesnoth

>>122272535
I would love BfW if there was an optional skirmish mode between missions. Having to prioritize how I level my characters while also having to deal with objectives and spawning enemies reminded me of the worst TRPGs.

>>122272535
So it's kinda a freeware indie Fire Emblem? Count me in.

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Anyone here play La Mulana? One of my favourite indie games, and I have yet to beat it. I'm glad Nicalis was too stupid to pick up the game, probably would have been shit on

you said we will be more active as /indie/

>>122279083
No, it's more that we have more potential for activity. There is more that can be talked about now, and hence probably more people will come, but that will take time.

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any nuclear throne/LISA/Risk of rain request?

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>>122247269
I'm sorry, I just couldn't stop laughing at that.

>>122283907
you got plenty of LISA requests in replies to >>122205362

>>122283907
We could always use more li'l floppy old man titties

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>>122285604
>>122205463
i tried

>>122288171
OR here, that's really great. You're based.

Yo, I didn't know of where else to go with this question than you nerds

I need to message someone on Patreon to make sure she's okay with me doing the full pledge and dedicating a video to me, can I message her without pledging cash?

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>>122207041
I didn't had to much time to work on it. But I tried my best with my mouse.

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>>122295091
Blocky hands!

>>122295910
Ugh, I know. It looks like shit when the hands are like that.

>>122296148
I like it, it reminds me of N64.

>>122296243
Huh... Thanks!

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>>122287839
>>122206903

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>>122296653
More

>>122296653
>I will teach you justice
>WITH MY MUTANT

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bump

Is Brad Armstrong the strongest mundane videogame character you can think of?

>>122300701
What is a Mundane?

>>122302831
common; ordinary; banal; unimaginative.

>>122303743
Dude can shoot fireballs out of his hands, that's not really mundane.

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Anybody there?

>>122307840
maybe

>>122307840
yes

>>122307840
no

>>122307840
suck my dick

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>tell me brad
>if pull off that arm would you die?

What are you playing currently, /indie/?

>>122310992
About to play The Desolate Hope, Hotline Miami and Knytt Underground.

>>122310992
Just beat LISA on a mandatory party members, joyless, pain mode run. Considering to try Hylics next, or one of those $0.50 vanilla RPG Maker games on steam. Maybe there could be a hidden gem in there somewhere, maybe.

>>122310992
Axiom Verge, third boss is kicking my ass repeatedly.
Story-wise I still don't know what's going on, but I feel like I'm progressing!

>>122310992
Still working through Capella's Promise, and then moving onto LISA afterward.

>>122310992
The Desolate Hope... for the third time.

>>122310992
Risk of Rain. I FINALLY unlocked two new characters, not sure who or what they are yet, still in the middle of a game, about to go to the second level after I make my afternoon breakfast.

https://youtu.be/mgCmmax-unE
Great fucking track

>>122312774
Acrid Best Waifu

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Buddy the edgy is here

>>122314143
She looks like a star with a head.

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>>122310992
I was going to install OFF but college, work and general feelings of depression has been keeping me from playing anything.

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Rip

Is there a way to progress in The Desolate Hope without cabbage grinding?

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>>122310992
Just finished Soul Sunder and Prayer of the Faithless. I'm also on Zone 2 of HOME; on my 3rd playthrough of Capella's Promise, right before the final boss of the main game, just gotta grind a little more and then to the post-game scenario; and some Risk of Rain here and there. I also have The Desolate Hope on my backlog because my toaster can't handle it. Too many games at once.
I wonder if someone could host a RoR game for /indie/.

ded

>>122322680
It can be done, it just takes a bit more time to gain credits. The bosses don't seem to offer much credits though .Other than relying on conditionals and leveling up the robots, I'm not sure what else would help.

>>122325108
Don't you fucking dare destroy the world you little shit.

>>122325307
The world will die eventually and Niko will be there the witness it.

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>>122325307
>>122327871
>forcing a kid to give up ever seeing their home and parents again
>just to keep a dying world alive for like 5 more minutes
>condemning the kid to death as well

>>122311237
Speaking of cheap RPG Maker games, is To The Moon worth playing?

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>>122330253
>Implying
The world IS going to get better and there were a couple of plot points that indicated towards it. And if you made him go back, he'd have too much guilt out of leaving the world to die. Besides, all the people would be grateful and he'd literally have the rest of his life handed to him on a silver platter by them.
Reminder that you're also the god of the world and if you make Niko go back to his life you chose some random kid over all your people. Putting the sun back on is a win/win situation for everyone. Niko would suffer for a while but he'd be happy with his new friends. What says he can't go back if he doesn't break the bulb either? The entity might have been lying to get the world to die.

>>122331508
Pretty sure the game handily tells you that the world is going to die no matter what you do, putting the bulb back in just means the people get to see the sun before they die, which isn't worth sacrificing a child's happiness over.

Also you're not the god of the world, the thing that talks to you in the dialogue boxes and fucks with your desktop is the god of the world, it just tells you and everyone else that you're the god to get you to do what it can't.

What are your top 5 indie games of the year?

1. Undertale
2. Read Only Memories
3. Technobabylon
4. Downwell
5. Her Story

>>122332615
1. Darkest Dungeon
2. Undertale
3. [Insert indie game here]
4. [Insert indie game here]
5. [Insert indie game here]

Yeah... I did not play many indie games released this year.

>>122332180
Also, in a meta kind of way, the game itself IS the world, and it's in a unstable incomplete state on the way to death. It will end when you eventually uninstall it and wipe it clean from your harddrive (or your computer crap out on you, whatever comes first).

>>122332180
>the game handily tells you that the world is going to die no matter what you do
Only that girl in the Barrens said that. No one else, not even the entity, mentioned it.
>which isn't worth sacrificing a child's happiness over
So Niko doesn't care about the world? Pretty sure that he'd save it if he were an adult, though that's more of a speculation. It's not like he's going to be full of despair if he stays in there.
>Also you're not the god of the world
>that explanation
You're just pulling that out of your ass, nowhere did it say that.
Maybe we should ask the devs some of the facts, though I don't know if they'd be willing to explain the plot stuff we didn't see.

>>122333214
Show me evidence, be it official confirmation or in-game dialogue, that supports that. We're just going on a circle with subjective opinions (I do admit that some of my arguments were like that).

>>122332615
1. Undertale
2. Axiom Verge
3. Hotline Miami 2 (didn't enjoy as much as the first one)
4. [Insert indie game here]
5. [Insert indie game here]

>LISA was 2014
>Risk of Rain was 2013
>Paper Sorcerer was 2013
>Antichamber was 2013
>FTL was 2012
>The Desolate Hope was 2012
>Barkley, Shut Up and Jam: Gaiden was 2008
>OFF was 2008
>Yume Nikki was 2004
>Cave Story was 2004

That's pretty much all I've played for Indie in 2015.

>>122335628
>Paper Sorcerer
This looks good anon. Is it basically a modern Return of Werdna? I might give it a spin.

>>122335924
I haven't played any of the Wizardry titles, but based on RoW's Wikipedia page it is definitely the primary inspiration. The highest difficulty level is actually called "1980s". It's an enjoyable dungeon crawler with a unique aesthetic.

>>122335628
If VNs count Black Closet can go on that list too, between Axiom Verge and HM2.

>>122332615
I thought Her Story was pretty damn cool, even though it took me a while to really understand it.

>>122335628
I've been wondering, are we supposed to go here to discuss Risk of Rain and other such normiecore roguelites (as that one anon calls them)?

>>122337632
>I've been wondering, are we supposed to go here to discuss Risk of Rain and other such normiecore roguelites (as that one anon calls them)?
Seeing as /rlg/ is about RPGs, I would say indie-developed arcade games with elements of randomization fall under our umbrella.

>I thought Her Story was pretty damn cool, even though it took me a while to really understand it.
For some reason I haven't been able to install it through Steam. It'll spends hours downloading >5GB of data without writing it to disk.

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>>122337632
>RoR
>normiecore roguelite
And where else would you discuss it? /rlg/ would get triggered. Risk of Rain is very much indie.
>tfw no comfy /indie/ RoR server

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>Unlock Enforcer and Engineer today
>Reach Sky Meadow for the first time as Enforcer
>Casually explore around, some Black Imps and odd glowing motherfuckers
>Walk towards end of map
>See a group of pic related waiting for me
>They all stand still in face of me
>I approach them and they begin chasing and smashing the ground to kill me

Holy shit this game gets more and more fucking fun and terrifying.

>>122338418
>>122338404
Cool beans, I'd totally be down to play some RoR with you guys.

Also, have you guys tried Kingdom?

>>122339985
Play glass cannon mode, every moment is terrifying.

>>122175439
Is there a reason this guy uses such a specific, semi-outdated aesthetic? I think its cool as fuck but it feels to me that he borders on autism at times. I mean, a christian rpg? I just don't get him.

>>122342793
That's honestly what makes it cool.

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will bears ever be treated as equal citizens

>>122349172
I love how LISA managed to create such insanely silly moments while maintaining a good atmosphere divided by zany and serious.

Also bump.

>>122353238
>>122349172
newbie to LISA here
so what's with the different versions of LISA? are they the same game but different difficulties or something?

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>>122354372
LISA the Painful is the main game and covers the main story. Pain mode is the hardmode to this game and has you make really fucking tough decisions. I suggest it if your a person whose accepting of his losses and wants a really raw playthrough wit a bit of extra content thrown in.

LISA the Joyful is a followup to the events immediately after Painful's ending and presents a conclusion to the story.

LISA the First is a prequel game made years back. It's a Yume Nikki clone that provides a bit of context to the rest of the story. Playing this I advise isn't to necessary. I suggest watching a playthrough of it. It's like, 45 minutes long of a game.

Have fucking fun, this series is fucking great.

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>>122354372
I agree with the other anon, but fuck i've already typed all this shit out.

LISA the First : Yumi Nikki like top-down explore the world type of game. Its not hard at all its just explore the game and piece together the story.

LISA the Painful: Side Scrolling RPG which has pretty big difficulty spikes at the beginning of the game, ( plus a really shitty mini game which will most certainly kill a ton of party members on your end the first time, after you find a few party members you like, it should get easy up until the end of the game.
LISA the Joyful : DLC to the game which expects you to already be good and familiar with the combat system. Difficulty is pretty hard since due to plot reasons, you have no party members, thus having to deal with groups of enemies all by yourself.

LISA the Painful has a difficulty setting which disables save scumming and with the item of JOY, its considered another difficulty setting since taking JOY increases your attack drastically making battles curve stomps.

If you want to play LISA, expect a difficult time.

>>122354916
>>122355102
which do you play first

>>122355669
Chronologically, LISA the First.

But honestly, most people agree to say skip LISA the First and play LISA the Painful then LISA the Joyful.

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>>122238501
Kekus maximus

>>122358453
What anime?

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>>122144023
>$1000 for dendy-pai to notice me
Nope, I've seen undertale's 2nd (well hidden btw) 1k backer and the background behind it
Pic related

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There was some picture about the Wadanohara gaem. For posting it, the gaem creator's tumblr account was deleted. Where can i find this pic?

>>122356075
Is this any good? Heard mixed reviews. Also can't remember its name.

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would any drawfag be willing to make this into an OFF gif? like, make enoch eating the batter and the philly phanatic into zacharie, and the other two mascots into idk, the judge and dedan or something? i think it would be hilarious.

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>>122372829

kinda in this style or something.

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PAGE 9
just finished Lisa the Painful and Joyful. Anyone want to post all their Lisa fanart or something?

>>122375209
I like how this image fits how i played the russian roulette, i lost only Terry in the first round and then Nern won all the next rounds

>>122375296
I only lost Terry and Pink Ranger.

>>122369960
it's awesome
only complaints i've heard about them is that some are put off by the SJW stuff.

Like at the beginning of the game, you get to chose your pronouns, your diet (vegetarian, vegan, gluten free), and stuff. Really this is just an opportunity for role play, since the game deals with body modifications, augmentations, gene splicing, etc.

It's totally worth a play, there's a demo on their site if you want to try it.

>>122376849
>your diet (vegetarian, vegan, gluten free)
Those had better not be the only options. Demolition Man vibes.

>there's a demo on their site if you want to try it.
As stated earlier, I cannot remember the game's title.

>>122377340
It's called Read Only Memories

>>122381578
Who wins?

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Undertale is the best indie game ever made
>better story than deus ex
>better gameplay than MGR
>Deep and detailed dialogue
>better rpg elements than earthbound
>dark souls tier battles

>>122388441
The worst thing about this post is that it assumes that Earthbound was even remotely a good RPG

>>122388441
>Undertale is the best indie game ever made

Ok now you just sound like an idiot.

>>122388441
Something wrong is not right.

I'm playing LISA for the first time and I'm on Pain Mode because I'm an idiot. What will I be missing from normal mode? I don't feel like starting normal until Pain is done because I already did the annoying things like the Vic Cherry fight and savescumming so no one died in Russian Roulette.

>>122391923
Pain mode gives you access to an optional area, plus a few more bosses. And a different ending.

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>>122375209
How could Brad not realize it was gasoline in the bucket he used?

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>>122375209
Did this not too long ago. It seemed like an ok idea. Full version has Asgore on the other side.

>>122392960
Pretty cool anon but where are his nipples

>>122393076
I cant draw nipples anon, they come out looking like milk duds.

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>>122393076
Rondo haves no nipples tho

Hotline Miami 2 in a nutshell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnspfa8h5p0

>>122392363
>no option to use the bucket of water on the top of the cliff first
That's what i didn't like about that part.

>>122399434
Not only would that be spoilery and ruin the joke, but it would go against one of the central themes of LISA.

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Does pic related have a chance of coming out this year? Steam says Winter 2015 at the earliest.

>>122404040
I have no idea what this has to do with indie games, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T7WY9tiaPI

>>122406671
Wrestling is LISA related

>>122404136
Indie games and delays go hand in hand. Not sure.

>>122377340
>Those had better not be the only options. Demolition Man vibes.
Options are omnivorous, vegetarian, vegan, kosher, gluten free, and i think an "other" option.

Actually, the pronoun thing is cool, you can type in custom pronouns so Turing can call you all kinds of stuff.

>>122410415
>>>/utg/

>LISA
>Area 2/3 Transition
Wow, I have never felt so awful because of a videogame. Not even watching Undertale's Genocide Route.

>>122411509
Recap?

>>122414248
spoiler tags you fucking idiot

>>122414445
Oops, Buzzo cuts off Buddy's nipple and Brad's arm then takes all of Brad's stuff. Also Brad is starting to hallucinate a lot.

>>122155016
>>122175274
Who are the mandatory party members again?

>>122419339
Terry, Fardy, Percy, and Buffalo.

Percy and Buff are the only consistently reliable ones, though Fardy is at least potentially useful.

>>122419913
I got some mileage out of Fardy's truck slam, and Terry still have those debuffs even if he's offensively pretty weak.
Percy really is surprisingly powerful, though.

>>122420923
Terry is too much of a gamble for me. I even managed to get passed Charmy while he was KO'd.

>>122381578
Whichever the player picks.

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Not dying on page 10

why can't we talk about games

>>122430291
Because everyone is asleep anon

In LISA, is there any recognition at all to if the player made sure no party member permanently died?

>>122433886
None at all

>>122434572
Ah. So was sacrificing a party member and all consumables to keep both of Brad's arms objectively the right choice?

>>122435148
I do it on most of my runs you can swap out a party member temporarily for a bad one and you can just get all your stuff back later

>>122332615
1: Undertale
2: Downwell
3: Duck Game (if you consider adult swim games to be indie, probably edging on not)
4: Crypt of the Necrodancer
5: TowerClimb (although it's been in beta development for like a million years)

>>122358656
Bro...
Its metal gear solid

>>122388441
I love bait like this

>>122404136
What is it anon? Looks interesting

>>122436918
Crypt of the Necrodancer took itself too seriously IMO. It's like the devs were told to have as little fun as possible while making it or something.

>>122441593
What little there is of story is extremely melodramatic and takes itself too seriously, but I found the game to be fun. That is until the last level, which just pissed me off to no extent and I quit before beating the boss

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>>122392960
Jeez anon, least post your full picture.

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>>122442978
This thread just devolving into a fan-art thread or what?

>>122443216
>assuming every thread on /vg/ isn't just waifuposting and fan art

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>>122444210
Well least it gives me and excuse to dumb more LISA shit.

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>>122121687
https://soundcloud.com/search?q=666%20stupid%20ho%20deluxe
https://soundcloud.com/l3dgy/get-magazines

>>122139408
1.Undertale
2.LISA
3.Shovel Knight
4.Hotline Miami
5.Cave Story

I still need to play a lot more.

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>>122310623

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>>122139408
1) LISA
2) OFF
3) Gods Will Be Watching
4) Crypt of The Necrodancer
5) Hotline Miami

Undertale is also pretty cool.

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>>122142313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXzs9ip-Czs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZjTGFeBXAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aej3kzfQ4Yk

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>>122411509
Get ready for the end.

Evey dog has his day, huh, Bradley?!

>>122175439
yes i remember reading about that Souldozer in the new testament
may god save those poor people's souls ;_;

playing Fez for the first time and it's fucking gr8