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/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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Nexus Edition

Hollowed:>>122108568

>DARK SOULS 3
>Gameplay Trailer
[YouTube] DARK SOULS Ⅲ トレーラー第1弾 【gamescom 2015】 (embed)
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
[YouTube] Dark Souls III - Announcement Trailer (embed)
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg


>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
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first for muginevere
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>>122283320
Would summon Ritsolaire.
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I killed Sieglinde because she killed my friend. If she wanted to live she should've asked me to put down Siegmeyer.
About how many npcs do I have to kill to get invaded due to sin?
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It hasn't even been 2 years since I bought DS1 but I already feel nostalgic playing it again
Why is it just so good? How did they manage to hit the nail on the head so damn well?
Why does DS2 just feel like a claustrophobic B-list knock off?
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I don't wanna do the DLC again on my NG+

Fuck Alonne, Raime, Lud/Zallen and Blue Smelter
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>>122283958
But all of them except Raime are optional and Raime is piss easy to cheese
You either wear Veldstads helm if you think phase 2 is easier, or chug estus in front of him to bait the overhead if you think phase 1 is easier
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>>122283725
>killing one of the best girls and the only non undead human of the dark souls series for defending herself from her crazy hollow father
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>>122284187
Should've left it to me. Siegmeyer is my responsibility not hers. If I can't prevent him dying I should be the one to put him down.
Last I checked Sieg never got trapped in a crystal golem.
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>>122284172
I feel like if I do the DLC I have to do the optional areas to get their souls
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Dark Souls is a real shit game when you think about it.
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>>122284369
it's HER FATHER and she went to Lordran ONLY to find him, while you were banished to lordran to go hollowm you didn't had any right or anything to do with them. And she would had died if she didn't had fought back.
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>reach 3rd anal rodeo bonfire and brolaire is missing
>out of hurry aldo didnt talk to siegy
>reach lost izalith later, remember solaire didnt appear
>reach the washing machines, notice sieg isn’t there
>kill the eater to gtfo of there
>kill prowling and the bugs, open shortcut
>return to anor londo later for some boss weapons
>solaire is there for some reason
>talk to him, talk to sieg too
i didnt fuck up their quests, right? if i go to the encounters will i be able to finish them and get my slab and summon solaire?
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>>122284629
Nah son, she should've been better. I was the one constantly helping Seigmeyer out. She should count her lucky stars I broke her out of one of the RETARDED crystal men. Seriously she's useless, spending the whole game going where's muh dad?? Sieg went that a way. And then I help him out one last time in a way that prevents him from killing himself only for him to die offscreen by this bitch. Nah man, I didn't work so hard to keep my jolly friend alive just to be keked at the end of the game. I should've been the one to put him down if I absolutely had to.
Btw to the guy saying Sieglinde is the strongest npc, she was weak as fuck two hits from the large club and she was down. Didn't even get hit, at least Sieg got a hit in when i fucked up his quest my first time.
P A T H E T I C
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>>122255364

I don't think you're aware that phantoms increase the boss HP by a percentage. Summoning Solaire and Lautrec for gaping is pretty much the worst thing you can do since they will both die before she even gets to half health
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>>122285362
Because you keep ''helping'' him, he keeps going alway from her, if you didn't had helped siegmeyer but saved sieglinde, she would had done it easily, sieglinde is one of the strongest npcs of the game, she is lvl 100 and something, much stronger than siegmeyer.

you ruined everything

now they are both dead

you did this

you could had prevented this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-8kmPJKGgM
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>>122285542
Yeah I'm really glad they didn't do the successful summon requirement for npc quests in DS1. Fuck getting Solaire to survive Gaping is hell.
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>>122284624

They'll finally get it right by DaS3.
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>>122285669

That mechanic is a shitty b-team idea anyway. It's like escorts quests in MMOs. You get punished because of shitty AI.
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>>122285607
Ok sorry about your waifu dummy.
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>>122285813

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGCoAFZiYMw
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>>122285813
she is not my waifu but you are a asshole for killing her.
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>>122286152
w/e I killed petrus for killing Rhea too. I guess as a general rule if you kill my friends you go down.
I feel bad for killing Patches though, I accidentally aggro'd him. He dindu nuffin... ;_;
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>>122286561
who doesn't murder petrus

he's like the biggest dick in the game
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>>122287196

i killed petrus on my first ever run after my first conversation with him and him giving me that copper coin with that shitty attitude
no lie
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>>122287196
Seconded. I'd much rather have some dick use a lever to make me fall, than some fat cleric act like a condescending asshole only to up and murder his group leader because muh humanity.
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>>122286152
Dude lmao I just killed her for her soul. I'm a collector you see.
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>>122287320
be careful with that edge

>>122287592
humanity? petrus don't care about humanity, he hates clerics, and rhea in special.

>>122287630
>implying humans have unique souls like bosses
you got what? 10k soft souls?
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Fuck man, i have 300+ hours in this game and the painted world still creeps me out. Those toxic hollows, the crows, that fucking graveyard with that ambience...

Fuck.
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If i leave a covenant in DaS1, do i lose my rank? Do i have to give humanities/medals/souvenirs/eyes all over again from scratch?
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>>122288981
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>>122289135
you lose half your offerings
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>>122289180
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>fear flying insects and the sound they make
>enter blighttown
>panic
well shit this is not fun
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>>122289760
>>>/wsg/816574
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>>122289180
Oh my
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>>122288981
demon's souls is spooky

painted world is the sucessor of des and the dlc is the precessor of bloodborne
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So what happens if you "save" solaire from the sunlight maggot (I put save in quotes because really all it would take is one more death to make him hollow)? Do you get any extra dialogue?
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r8 pls no h8

http://mmdks.com/7pca

>>122290994
Why not save him from the maggot and find out what happens?
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>>122291079
Because it requires 80 humanity or poison cheese which hasn't worked in my last 4 runs.
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>>122290994
He can be summoned for the Gwyn boss right.
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>>122291336
Nigger isn't it only 30?
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>>122290040
I played through DeS only a few times, but all of those were after the 300 hours in Dark Souls so i kinda fucked up the intended experience by knowing how most things work. For example, i didn't get why red eye knights were so notorious, because i just kept parry backstabbing them and never really getting hit.

Anyways, i don't remember ever being this creeped out by any area in des. Boletaria is just the burg but much longer, which i love, stonefang is annoying as fuck, latria is terrifying but i found it more weird then scary after dying a few times, storm place is cool, and VoD is just meh
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Why does invading as a blue sentinel never work for me but invading as a red phantom almost always works?

I can never successfully invade as a blue which is odd since they can invade globally.
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>>122291079
http://mmdks.com/7rof
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R8 my low level faith build.

http://mmdks.com/7roe
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>>122291415
My bad, I thought you had to max out the covenant. Still it's just way too much of a timesink. Have to go to DLC and farm, then need to spend at least 10 minutes just handing them in.
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>>122291864
>low level
>level 99
>2.2 weight left
>heal
>replenishment
>force
>vit and end gouging with little to no faith

It's fucking shit.
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>>122292119
I was gonna post this
thanks
force is good if he's invading in a narrow area, but for forest it's fucking terrbile.
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>>122291823
Smaller pool of available people to invade.

The orb first checks the area that you're in so it's best to go to a high activity area while the game is most populated and use orbs there (Dragon Shrine and Eleum Loyce were pretty good spots, in my experience). Just keep spamming the orb and you'll link up to a sinner eventually.
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>>122291859
Or

http://mmdks.com/7rog
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>>122292457
Could you be more boring?
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>>122292583
>says the guy who makes shit builds with pursuers and dark bead
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>>122292328
I never planned on invading which is why I'm with the Sunbro's Covenant.
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>>122292119
What exactly makes it shit?
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>>122291823
>>122292417
Just headed to Dragon Shrine and got two back-to-back blueberry invasions, so it's still a pretty happening spot!
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>>122293053
>all this projecting
Nah I play builds that aren't minmaxed as fuck and still win more often than I lose, nerd.

"OH WOW I'VE NEVER SEEN A HAVELMOM BEFORE" - Nobody, 2015

Why don't you just look up a cookie cutter havelmom instead of trying to make your own? It's already barely original.
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>>122293821
I think you legitimately have downs syndrome. I was just fixing some guys shit build.
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>>122294212
Oh, you fixed his shit build by making it a shit build?
well done
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Cute pair of buddies.
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Can't tell what, but there something off-putting about the DaS3 cover armor. Maybe it's the helm.
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>>122294329
>make shit build with pursuers and dark bead and not competitive at fucking all
>using goddamn boars helm

I love all the asspained retards who get upset over moms mask. Have fun literally being shit at everything in this game.
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How easy is it to get softbanned on SotFS?
I just want to give myself a bandit greataxe.
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>>122294949
>implying I made the build in the first place
They're both awful, just like you.

>muh meta
>u can't be gud without havels and mask LOL xD
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>>122294586

Cool blog.
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>>122295142
>muh meta
>u can't be gud without havels and mask LOL xD

Nice putting words into my mouth. I'm not saying you need masks to be good, i'm saying anyone who cries over havels + mask is obviously a fucking shitter than probably got GC hornet stabbed one too many times.

Have fun being a literal fucking crybaby and never improving.
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>>122294987
don't have impossible SM (20k sm at level 200)
don't have in impossible items (poison binos +14)
mostly that, i feel like i'm missing something but everything else should be fine

fromshit can't tell the difference between a player dropping you a weapon/you picking up said weapon legit/cheating said weapon in. Go ahead. They also can't detect infinite HP/stamina or instapetrify etc. which is why there are so many hackers and why this softban system is complete trash.
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>>122293821
>>122292583
No one even asked for an original build. The guy asked for r8, the other guy fixed it to be viable. If he made an entirely different build then there would be no fucking point.

That's like asking "Hey guys how is my faith build!" and then someone else linking a 45 dex chaos blade pyro hand build.
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REPOSTAN
Please help.
I've been using DSFix for quite a while, but I recently discovered that it's not affecting Dark Souls 1 like it used to anymore. Meaning I cannot skip intro logos, the "DSFix Enabled" text no longer appears at the title screen, and my textures aren't being rendered. The game doesn't crash though. Here's what I've done to try and fix this:

>Made sure I opted in the beta [-dsptde-2.0]
>Made sure AA and Motion Blur were off
>Updated the older versions of everything related to DSFix (DINPUT8.dll, DSFix.ini, dsfix folder, etc.) to version 2.4
>Made sure the internal rendering resolution is the same as my screen resolution
>Made sure enableTextureOverride is set to 1
>Made sure skipIntro is set to 1
>Made sure all of the necessary files were located in the DATA folder where DARKSOULS.exe was located
>Tested game with default settings in DSfix.ini
>Made sure I enabled all that I wanted again in DSfix.ini
>Made sure the textures I wanted were in the tex_override folder
>Disabled DEP for Dark Souls
>Made exceptions for DINPUT8.dll in case antivirus was blocking it
>Restarted computer multiple times

I do not have MSI Afterburner, so it's not that either. Tested the game after nearly all of these bullet points, and DSfix is just not being recognized anymore.
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>>122291539
des have a much heavier and tense atmosphere than das1. it feels much more hopeless and miserable.
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>>122295536
>YOU TOTALLY MADE THIS SHIT BUILD THANK ME FOR MAKING IT SLIGHTLY LESS SHITTY, ALSO YOU'RE BAD AT THIS GAME EVEN THOUGH I'VE NEVER MET YOU. HAHA I'M THE WINNER
lol ok
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playing ds2 after a long time

sl1, just reached majula

should i buy any armour from maughlin? or is it worse/comparable to drops at heide's tower/forest of fallen giants?
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>>122296081
Wow I didn't expect a response this autistic.
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>>122285542
>I don't think you're aware that phantoms increase the boss HP by a percentage.
I don't think your'e aware that if you trigger a boss fight before the phantom spawns into your world, the HP remains unchanged.
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>>122296081
>i totally didn't make that build with pursuers and dark beads, stop projecting!!!!!
>nah jk it was me all along

Jesus fucking christ you are autistic.
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>>122296332
>autism boogeyman
sure showed me
>>122296486
>nah jk it was me all along
where did I say that
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>>122296585
>boogeyman

I'm not sure you know what that buzzword means.
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>>122296768

>autism

I'm not sure you know what that buzzword means.
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>>122296081
As >>122295746 said. There is no point if the guy just completely linked an unrelated build or just said "it's shit" and didn't give any criticism or find a way to make it less shit.

Also stop projecting this hard you fucking manchild.
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I decided to replay Dark Souls yesterday and saw something weird

I was in Blighttown, somewhere near the bonfire with the fire dogs and I heard this loud bang and saw four or five projectiles hit a wall near me. It sounded like what the toxic darts and knives do when they hit a wall and looked like the darts/knives. But they were preceeded with that loud-ass bang and a bunch of them hit the wall.

I swear to god it was somehow a shotgun.
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>>122293287
everything is shit
but plannet builds are for casuls you dont need it
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hud autismanon here, i'm still doing the des hud, what you guys think?
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>>122294437
Hah, ran into 'em again!
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>>122298051
looks cool, but the menu icons and buttons hanging off the menu bg is triggering me
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>>122298292
yea but this is the only way to make the souls counter that way, the soul counter and the menu use the same texture, lol. i can make the soul counter bigger, but it wouldn't be like in des.
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>>122298051
What's up with the spell?

Also I kind of hate how the number indicating humanity is overlapping, same thing with the buttons.
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>>122298463
I'd much rather have a slightly larger soul count and a fitting item bg then this
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>>122297742
Spooky!
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>>122298551
demon's souls. about being unlimited is because i'm using logan.

>Also I kind of hate how the number indicating humanity is overlapping, same thing with the buttons.

humanity uses this white thing around because if you go to a dark place it would disappear in the screen.
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>>122297742
Sounds like a vagrant and its little homing missiles
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>>122298051
What spell even is that? Or where did the icon come from at least?
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>>122298796
The real question is why was Raime carrying a really small pickaxe?
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>>122298947
>about being unlimited is because i'm using logan.

What does this mean? None of Logan's gear makes spells unlimited.
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>>122299498
all npcs have unlimited casts by default
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>>122299648
Oh, so is he using the debug thing or just cheat engine?
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>>122299325
heavy soul arrow, icon from demon's souls

>>122299498
npcs have unlimited spells
i have debug.
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>>122299721
probably debug, i dont think you can do this fuckery with ce.
>>122298947
i’ve been meaning to ask you, what is that spell mod? what else mods you got?
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>>122299954
i am making the mods now
this is why i am posting the pics

i changed the soul counter/menu now

by the way, the icons of demon's souls have higher quality, so you have to make them smaller and lose some details to put them in das1(its about 70-80% the size of des items)
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>>122301040
have you tried ovals or rounded rectangles? i know you’re focused on des now, but other than you i only ever see rectangles. more minimalistic rectangles, more intricate rectangles, golden ones, black ones, it’s stale. also can you align the letters and images in the menus?
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>>122301873
the problem is that the way te menus work is shit. they are all cut in different ways, and if you make 1 wrong pixel everything go to shit and get assimetric

or you were talking about the weapons slots?
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>farming desert sorceresses trying to get that sexy outfit set
>kill them all to the point of no respawn in harvest valley and earthen peak
>got everything but the skirt

I normally ascetic the earthen peak top fire to get the +2 silver serpent ring anyways, I thought doing so would also reset all the enemies inside the earthen peak but apparently it didn't, do I have to ascetic the central one and/or bottom fires too in order to respawn the sorceresses?

Alternatively if someone's got a spare I'd happily take it off their hands.
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rate the menus ffams
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>>122303064
I got like 10 of the top, which is supposedly the rarest, and only 1-3 of the rest. The fuck.
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>posted my character with 40 estus flask

sheeiitt
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>>122302639
i meant the menus. for weap/itm/att slots i’d like to see some rhombus/diamond shapes
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>>122303703
I don't like how the main part of the menu doesn't match with the colors. Are you planning to change that?
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>>122291539
>storm place is cool
It's obnoxious as fuck with it's tight ledges and flying stingrays.
Add shitty gimmick bosses into the mix and you have arguably the worst area in the game.
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>>122303703
tbqh looks fine but smhing bout that transparency
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>tfw softb&
tried summoning a mate, sign didn't show up
tried summoning a dude who claims to be bant too, worked

do i need to make an alt and change accounts every time i want to play this shit game now?
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>>122304261
its possible but i don't know how to not make it disastrous, but i already made some circles in pic related, you can't just create something in paint and use it on the hud, you need something as a base

>>122304439
like i said here
>>122302639
its too hard to change the shape of the menu, but i can make it brighter

>>122304541
whats with the transparency? des hud was full transparent lol
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Between DS2 and Scholar, which is more active on the Ps3? Or do they use the same servers since they're basically the same.
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>>122306090
Don't change the shape, change the color. And increase the opaqueness a bit.
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>>122306098
i’ge heard here they are joined servers, dont know for sure
>>122306090
it just looks ugly. for the slots, can’t you just make a semi transparent diamond png and then add it to the texture file? i have 0 experience with transparent images so i dont know what the limitations are.
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>>122306240
i hate the shape desu, oh wait i think i can make it a perfect square
wait a few minutes
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>>122306593
yea i can, but it would bad and gay, a 4 diamonds in the screen, you know?
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>>122305824
That sucks, but yeah you have to use the family sharing to share the game with another account now to get around it. What do you think you did to trigger the ban?

>>122306098
>>122306593
SOTF on PS3 is just vanilla DS2 with the DLCs included, so yeah they're on the same servers.
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>fight Iron golem for the first time
>he gets staggered
>hit him shit ton of times because muh dex weapon
>he falls back off the tower
>ded
Did i just cheese the boss fight? I kind of feel like i did.
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>>122307350
>met a fuckton of hackers on IKB a few days ago, put on no hollowing/no durability damage, but i stopped playing after a few more fights anyways
>spawn in items since months, but never impossible ones
or probably doing some ganks with really long and stupid modded character name, probably that was it now that I think about it

Anyways, i don't think i can be arsed to go through the hassle of changing accounts every time i want to play this crap

120 hours ;-;7
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Just started DaS after finished DeS.
Is there anything blatantly OP like Magic on DeS?
In a way that it kills the game because it makes it easy mode.

I want to run sword + shield.
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>>122307830
iron golem is a stupid fight, you either make him fall off the bridge or he falls there and you poke him until he dies
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>>122307149
well, i’d look better than the message rating faces b-baka
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>>122307830
it is one of the easiest bosses, to compesate for the hard level.

>>122308281
no there is nothing op like that.
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>>122307993
why cheat anyway?
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Why is the Guardian Soul such a useless piece of shit?
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>>122308450
>because making builds legit can fuck off with the pve being mostly trash
>because why farm for a shitty item when i can just cheat it in
>because some dude broke all my shit and i haven't reached the DLC
>because im bad and lazy

>>122308892
muh lore
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>>122286152
>tfw you can't make 2hus in this game
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>>122308281
Dark Magic is pretty OP
Curse + dusk ring + RTSR (with health in range) + sanctus + power within + buffed weapon can pretty much one shot bosses and players
Basically anything with Power Within and RTSR can be super fucking powerful (including dark magic)

Just stay away from dark magic and power within, and you will be good. RTSR isn't OP on it's own, but it's pretty fun to use for an extra bit of damage (but your health needs to be within 1-20% or 1-10% range can't rememberp)
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>>122308394
>no there is nothing op like that.

Are you kidding me? If you rush the catalyst in blighttown (which is really easy to get since you just run past 3 barbarians and a blowdart guy) even the lowest level sorcery will one shot most shit from burg to lower burg, and by then you will most likely have great heavy soul arrow which will one shot everything in depths blighttown and dark root. Then once you get soul spear and dark magic you are basically one shotting everything in the game.

And with Bellowing Dragoncrest + Dusks crown + TCC + RTSR/Power within you are basically going to one shot every boss with a dark bead or pursuers.
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>when you try to change the hud

>>122311313
have you even played des?
>And with Bellowing Dragoncrest + Dusks crown + TCC+bla bla bla

you don't need anything of that in des, you can cast second chance, buff all the defenses and kill everything in 1 hit with unlimited spells without using any extra item other than the catalyst and the old spices. sorcery alone in das is shit, black magic is op but it have few uses.
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Whats a good paladin/templar fashion for DS2?
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is the color better now?
remember that this happens,but less worst
>>122311492
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What are your top 3 favorite DaS armor sets?
Artorias
Paladin
Ornstein
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>>122313496
Elite Knight
Elite Knight
Elite Knight
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>>122312194
After the Paris bombing I wanna make a crusader/paladin/templar character so bump for this question
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>>122313496
Tarkus
Iron Golem
Artorias
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So how the fuck do I beat Alonne?
It´s not even that he´s really hard, he just instantly attacks me as soon as I try to heal up.
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>>122313496
Elite Knight
Steel
Wanderer

From DaS2, its:
Alva
Faraam (concept art)
Royal Soldier

From BB, it's:
Hunter (with cape)
Crowfeather
Executioner (minus the lampshade helmet)
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>>122314501
Wait for his charge attack or the cooldown to his leaping artorias move. Those are both safe times to get lots of hits in, and also double as a chance to heal

Hint: if you don't think you have enough time to safely attack, you do not have enough time to heal

Also,
>it's n-not like he's HARD or anything!
>he just keeps killing me over and over!
ok
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>>122314617
>(minus the lampshade helmet)
the fuck outta here
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>>122314951
it wouldn't be so bad if it weren't bright fucking yellow. As it stands it clashes horribly with the rest of the outfit
>having a helmet that completely blinds you
enjoy getting slapped around by foes that can still use their eyes
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Is the falchion any good in DS2 damage wise? I've been using the rrscimitar but didnt know if the damage was to different.
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>>122315162
>having a helmet that completely blinds you
video game
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>>122315290
doesn't make it any less goofy, conceptual-wise, anon. there are limits to people's sense of disbelief
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>>122314741
>it's n-not like he's HARD or anything!
>he just keeps killing me over and over!
I´m not perfect so he will hit me eventually. Then I can´t get a chance to get my hp up again and I´ll die to another hit, which again will happen eventually.
It doesn´t matter how much damage I do to him before that as long as he has any health left.
So yes, he´s not that hard but he´s still killing me.
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>>122315498
Anon, a boss that kills you repeatedly, and that you spend a long time on, is the definition of a hard boss. Your excuses mean very little
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>>122313496

Knight
Elite Cleric
Wanderer
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>>122315678
If I die 50 times to Bed of Chaos it doesn´t mean it´s difficult, it just means I suck.
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>>122315678
Hard bosses:

Gargoyles
Gaping Dragon
O&S
BoC
4 kings
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>>122315290
>>122315162
>they still need their eyes to see
GRANT US EYES
GRANT US EYES
PLANT EYES ON OUR BRAINS, TO CLEANSE US OF OUR BEASTLY IDIOCY
>>
Baby's first fashion souls
Paladin Helm/Gargoyle helm
Ornstein armor/Silver Knight
Paladin Gauntlets
Havel's Legs/Wanderer legs
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>>122316090

>Gaping Dragon
>Hard

Eh? He is pretty easy compared to most bosses, since you can just bait him into charging you.
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>>122316090
>implying that most people didn't consider gargs, O&S, 4kings, BoC hard on their first playthrough
obviously none of these are hard once you're experienced, that is the entire point of getting experience
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>>122316193
>not using fulls set
these fucking people
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>>122316279
Even with experience, bed of chaos is still bullshit.
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>>122316250
>lots of health
>if you get greedy on the head he one shots you
>vomit
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>>122316250
I died 2 times of Gaping Dragon on my first playthrough before I learned that all his attacks 1shot me and that I had to play the waiting game with him
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>>122296081
u mad
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>>122316372
Your autism gets me hard.
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>>122316573
>replying to a post from 4 hours ago
?
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>>122316421
Pretty sure he didn´t have that much health.
Also getting greedy and then oneshit is dumb shit you do once and then you know better.
the hard part about him is actually his stupid "I´m not completely done charging, I still moved my foot a little so fuck you" and then you fly through the room.
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>>122316647
GD: 4,660 hp
Capra: 1,176 hp
Quelaag: 3,139 hp
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>>122316647
I got dunked on a bit by his "lmao fly up and stomp you" move, for some reason that shit has amazing tracking
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>>122316817
Queelag is way better at hitting you and capra is just a bitch to fight in a room as wide as he is with his two pet dogs.
What about resistances? I really can´t remeber him taking a lot of punishment.
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how do I figure out summon ranges in DaS
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>>122313496
knight/elite knight
ornstein
wanderer
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>>122317086
Google probably.
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Archdrake mace good mace?
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>>122316372
>being generic
>not using fashion souls
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rate my anor londo invader
http://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/469706
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>>122318605

Fixed: http://mmdks.com/7rp0
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How are halberds in DS2? Really liked the look of the blue knight halberd, thought of giving it a chance.
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How good is Fume Knight Ultra Greatsword in DS2?
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>>122318736
Hornet?
I don't think i'll be backstabbing with smough hammer and fatroll.
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>>122312293
Looks pretty good
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>>122318837
Here have a meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkwNVRHhunE
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Does anybody have the DS2 version of this image
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hey this is probably a bad question but can a gravelord servant who is currently in NG infect players in NG+ if they're in the level range? The gravelord guides are pretty unclear about this, just that NG players cannot get infected with red phantoms.
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I read the Black knight Halberd In Ds2 needs around 60 in Int/faith total to get the full potential of the weapon.

If I was 50 faith/ 10 int would I lose value?
Also, should I weapon buff or could I manage without it?
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>>122318605
i have a smough low level invader, but i didn't made a build
I use havels and darkwraith hand as shield sometimes(because it looks cool) and to drain humanity too.
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>>122320332
I believe so
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>>122319149
thanks senpai

>>122320276
just change to the covenant-starter item equivalent lol
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What is the lore significance of this guy?

How did he end up impaled? Why does he have a sack on his head? Am I playing Bioshock Infinite and i'm gonna find out he's actually me from a different timeline at the end of the game?
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>>122321509
He isn´t you
He still is your future.
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>>122321509
there is a giant ass demon on the other side I think it's pretty obvious how he got impaled
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>>122321509
i can't see it's too bright, all i see is a white screen
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>going to retrieve a 15k bloodstain
>do a roll i've done a million times before
>land on some wooden block and get propelled 10 meters away
ok
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>>122321509
He wears a sack because it's comfy.
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>>122321509
>le elizabeth put sack in your head
>throw you to demon in another universe
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How did these get here?

I don't understand the lore in this game
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>>122321509
>walk though jail
>giant ass demon on the other side
>"woah a- HOLY SHIT SOMEBODY GOT IMPALED"
>whats the lore why does he have a sack who is he what has he done
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>>122321509
He drop the soap
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>>122322381
It´s like you´re not even trying
>>
Anon that whole series is going to take quite a while to get through
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>>122321509
The better question is how is he regenerating flesh enough so that flies could eat him for the entire duration of everything you did in Lorderan and he still looks exactly the same when you come back
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>>122322381
plague please go
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>>122322381
is a warning ''petrus is an asshole and invade hopeless rheas''
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>>122322381
>inb4 "no guys I'm serious!"
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What was this diamond dog doing in a sealed barrel? The other ones don't have food in them, why would it go inside of it. How long has it been inside? What is it eating? This raises so many questions.
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>Decide to 100% Demon's Souls
>Check what Im missing from Wiki
>Gargoyle Crossbow
>At least 400 hours of playtime between characters, never got one
>oh boy
>Go in, ready for frustration
>First crossbow gargoyle drops one, second crossbow gargoyle drops another

ARE.YOU.FUCKING.KIDDING.ME. The desire sensor was real, holy shit.
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>>122323704
>What was this diamond dog doing in a sealed barrel? The other ones don't have food in them, why would it go inside of it. How long has it been inside? What is it eating? This raises so many questions.
forgot image
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>>122323719
i literally never heard of this crossbow in my entire life
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>It says here you think basilisks are good enemy design?
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>>122323948

Not surprised, really. Id say its the Ghost Blade of Demon's.
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>>122321509
TELL ME ABOUT THE HOLLOW!

WHY DOES HE WEAR THE SACK???
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>>122325107
NO ONE CARED WHO I WAS UNTIL I PUT THE SACK
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>>122322381
It's petrus' secret stash. The man is an asshole
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>>122323881
>diamond dog
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>>122324442
tell me what's wrong with them
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>>122324442
i kinda like them. they are very memorable.
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>>122325730
basilisk trigger me
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>>122325861
but why
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>leave the wall intact near McDuff
>upgrading some weapons
>get invaded by some faggot
>first thing he does is destroy the wall
>check his profile later
>brazil
good thing i backed up the save

fucking brazil
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>>122323881
My good sir, I believe that is a reptile.

Speaking of dogs...
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>>122326627
Darkmoon Knightess is the most tragic girl of DaS1
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>>122323190
he’s undead
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>>122326078
why? what is wrong with the wall being broken? aesthetics?
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>lets design a combat system around 1v1
>now lets make bosses with multiple entities
Fuck this game.
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>>122327159
>I have never fought the skelly lords
Also, Royal Rat Vanguard isn't bad either, simply because of how fucking different it is from every other boss encounter in the series. The novelty alone sells it to me
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>>122326836
Not really, at least she has a porpose.
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What's the lore significance of this cart wheel?

Is it from a chariot or a supply cart? Are those barrels perhaps connected to it? What's in those barrels? Why is the cart wheel not on the cart but instead in a store room with those barrels? The room is guarded by a hollow soldier who doesn't have an armor and is armed with a regular sword. Was he perhaps the person who rode the cart? What was his mission?

Souls lore leaves so much to be discovered guys... We might need EpicNameBro on the case.
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>>122327749
copycat killers are real
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>>122327368
I have and that's another example of a bullshit fight. This game is shit when it comes to fighting anything but 1v1
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>>122327902
What
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>>122323881
>>122322381
>>122321509
>>122323704
>>122327749
Ironically pretending to act retarded is still acting retarded. Plagueofgripes pls go
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>>122327939
>Skeleton Lords
>A bad fight

You downed them all at once didn't you, you silly little undead.

That fight's easy peasy and pretty fun. Get back to us once you've taken on a real duo boss like O&S.
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>>122328190
You DIDN'T down them all at once?

What a fucking pussy. Fighting fifty skeletons at once is a decent challenge at that progression point.
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>>122328115
Dude we just like the lore. Don't hate on us lorebros. You play the games for the joke that is called PvP and we play it for the lore. Each to their own.
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>>122327939
I want arena/honorduel tryhards to leave
>>122328397
that's part of the reason why the fight is so well designed -- it's fun in either approach
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>>122328397
then you can’t complain about the fight having multiple enemies
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>>122328650
I haven't
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LIVE 2 SERVE

https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls/?b=a25pZ2h0LDQwLDE0LDQwLDIwLDIwLDEwLDksNDgsOTksNCwxNCw0LDQsMzEsMzQsMTYxLDExLDEyOCw1LG5vcm1hbCxkZXZpbmUsbm9ybWFsLGRldmluZSwwLDUwLDU4LDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMCwwLDAsMix3b29kZW4sd29vZGVuLHdvb2Rlbix3b29kZW4sMSwwLDAsNSwzMSwxMCwxLDI=

would you knight with me?
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>>122329068
sure
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>>122329381
thanks
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>>122329068
You could get 2 more attunement slots going up to SL125 but then you can't match with 100s I guess
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>>122329456
you know what youre right, added sunlight blade and great lightning spear, thanks for the suggestion.
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>>122327136
It's cozy
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Why would anyone use any shield other than Silver Knight's?
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>>122330292
Weight, utility effects like grass and sanctus
Maybe the lighter parrying animations too
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>>122330292
because the heater shield exists

and the grass crest exists

and the buckler/target shield exists
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>>122330292
because aesthetics and that by the time you get to higher NG+ cycles such that enemies start powering through "normal" stability, you should be dodging everything anyway
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>>122330292
only the best
>>
I've got 36 int.

I have soul spear, crystal magic weapon and homing crystal soulmass.
What else should I grab?
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>>122330892
My dick
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>>122328190
bah, it's shitty and boring, it's not even a boss it's just a lot of enemies at the same time, that part in catacumbs before pinwheel is a better boss than that

>>122329068
havel instead of fap ring and 3 more end and you can fast roll.

>>122330292
no one use silver knight shield
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>>122330892
how are you using the spells? As nukes / supplementary to a weapon, or as your primary means of dealing damage?
>>
>get a poison build working so nice this guy needs to run away twice to heal within 20 seconds
>>
>>122330953
lewd
>>122331068
I'm mostly fighting with my sword, but I use homing crystal on people I don't want to fight
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>>122331197
then you're basically set, I guess. Most INT spells are created assuming that you want to be a pure caster. Load up with nukes and buffs and go on your way. You may want to consider using Dark Sorcery when you go through the DLC
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>>122331059
ive never seen a knight fast roll in armor, let alone roll. i did keep the mid roll on purpose, i may be at a disadvantage but min maxing wasnt something i was going for...sort of
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>>122331425
also the 40 vit 40 end just looks nice
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>>122331425
the thing is not about roll only, you walk faster and your stamina regenerate faster. the worst thing about fat roll for me is not the fat roll itself but how slow you walk.
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>>122330292
Heater shield
>is medium shield
>has 100% block on physical
>has pretty good stats for elemental
>weighs nothing
>has the recovery frames on parry of a small shield (14 frames, so you can spam parry if you were so inclined)
>looks good
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>>122331713
>looks good
Heater shield looks like ass
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>>122331713
also when someone hits shiva's shield, it's like if they were hitting a heavy shield not a medium one
there's the leeroy's shield that regenerates your hp and can be used to make power whitin suck your hp slower

>>122331968
it's alright. there are a lot of worst looking shields.
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>>122331968
heater shield looks good desu senpai
>>
What is a good Artorias build? I play mostly PvE but it wouldn't hurt if i could have fun on PvP too
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>>122332192
retarded level investments
>>
>>122332285
People have fun outside of havelmom niche too
>>
>>122332192

Abyss Artorias or Normal Artorias?
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>>122332386
Whichever one is more epic
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>>122332386
abyss do more damage because it gets bonus with humanity, and the armor is fucked anyway.
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>>122332386
Abyss is cooler. That jump and shit.
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>>122332415
>>122332491

http://mmdks.com/7rp6
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>>122332697

Oops, fixed: http://mmdks.com/7rp7
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People who chug estus should be gassed
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>tfw have all rare items for one of these achievments besides Greatshield of Artorias (Have to go to NG++ just for 1 fucking weapon
>Don't want to grind other monsters/play with Solaire for Medals/Souvenirs/eyes of death for all miracles

Just fuck my game up
>>
>>122333845
That's why I love playing my Hex build, Great resonant soul spam if you don't want a fair fight

If DS1 just put a hornet ring and backstab (If you aren't already using it, but it should be a ring you switch too)
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>>122334306
I find it hard to get behind them in time to bs before they roll away
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Is there a way to do full co-op with invading as a host and removing all the fog walls? I wanna do a double host invasion with my friend.

Would using the current cheat table work for this?
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why is Vamos' hammer so shit
>172 physical, C strength scaling
>96 fire, no scaling
>can't be enchanted
Andre's hammer (normal +15) has 217 base physical power and B strength scaling, and can be enchanted
Andre's hammer (fire +10) has 208 phys /208 fire
Giant's hammer has 300 lightning and it's larger

I know they're novelty weapons that guilt the player in their descriptions, but Vamos' seems notably underpowered
>>
>>122333845
Didn't you do this last night?

It's still fair game retard.
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>>122334306
and when you want a fair fight you spam another magic?
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>>122334498
I can't get CE to work in my DS1, but in 2 it works fine and you can Co-op the entire game pretty much

As for fog walls you can always summon somebody in a summon able spot and then teleport them to you if that's what you're talking about
>>122334679
nah I have hex for dark or resonant weapon (occasionally resonant flesh because I usually have like no armor or poise, I stay low weight for rolls)
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>>122334581
you are forgetting that fire have bonus dmg against everything in this game
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>>122334598
Don't be a faggot

Don't do it
>>
Just beat O&S
fuck ornstein and his anime like dashing
>>
>>122334839
96 is still stupidly low fire damage
a Fire Mail Breaker does more fire damage
a Fire Plank Shield does more fire damage
let that sink in
Quelaag's Furysword has 255 fire damage with 0 humanity
>>
Hopefully playing Dks3 online is as intense as it looks. I would love regular battles with 2 summoned and 2 invading, in an area I have absolutely no idea about. They need a better incentive to invade. Passwords and making invading easier was a good choice. Player interaction just needs to be done correctly in this series, for once.
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>>122335668
>Player interaction
As long as we have emote gestures and no direct talking, I'm happy
>>
>>122335594
>comparing quelaag's furysword with A BLACKSMITH HAMMER
the hammers aren't even real weapons
>>
>>122334980
you, or whoever the fuck started it bitching about worthless shit
>>
>>122335803
>no direct talking

why's that? i thought itd be cool to be able to chat with buddies. but maybe thatd be best left to private servers.
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>>122335803
>no direct talking
what if I told you there was a voice chat option?
>>
Darkmoon Blade or Sunlight blade? I don't know if I'll be able to farm 80 fucking souvenirs of reprisal
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>>122296267
For now, I think it's worse
look up where the Drangleic Armor is in the FoFG
Armor isn't a huge deal in there, neither of the bosses is much danger if you know what to do(Aka walk to the right place against the giant, and fight the pursuer where there are ballistas)
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>>122336068
I did, just put on covenent gold serpent and 10 humanity and once you have 50, submit them then use the dmb+2 to farm the crow wimmin to get to 80
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>>122335909
>>122335923
Relying on the vague communication of gestures is better for the game overall
It adds personality to the online, it suits the enigmatic nature of the rest of the game
I know most of us just use them for pvp memes now, but I think there's value in summoning a player in an area you're struggling in, and letting them guide you along with vague pointing. It lets you get help and interact with someone whilst still playing by the game's rules. If you could just hop on voice chat and have them explain everything in explicit detail, it would kill some of the mystique.
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>>122336347
you're actually right on that man

that fucking feeling when that bro you summoned knows exactly what you mean with these vague ass gestures.
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>>122335246

The first time I saw his sanic-speed flying dash was terrifying.
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>>122336347
I agree with this. Using gestures makes playing online lighthearted and silly. The last thing I want is to hear some fag complaining or flaunting with voicechat during pvp.
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So why the fuck is PC Dark Souls so fucking dead? I mean, I can't find a single invasion in the Darkroot forest


Did people not switch to the steamworks beta or what?
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>>122332825
He doesn't use a pyro hand or a dark hand.
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>>122338181
you're probably low on nodes. I played maybe 3 days ago and I was able to get invasions(as a forest protector).
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>>122338181
>switching to the beta

Dude, opt out of that. There are more people in the main portion of the game.
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I just heard about the BB leak on steam. It would be cool if it came out soon to give us something to play during the wait for ds3.
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>>122339014
stop. Its not gonna happen, no matter how many low quality jpegs you show us it wont happen. Sony wont let bloodborne go, ever.
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>>122325917
I don't know why eyes trigger me so bad, I hated BB for that reason
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>>122294586
>that sword

Wow I sure do hope its in the game this time.
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>>122313496
Adventurer
Chester
Onion

DS2
Heide
Hexer
Tattered
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>>122339014
Yeah I also heard about the Bayonetta 2 leak on PSN.
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PLEASE HELP ME

I can't find the aged feather in my inventory, and I know the Emerald Herald gave it to me.

Where IS it?
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>>122339926
>trigger

Stop
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Does Royal Navlaan ever stop invading you? Most invaders stop after I beat them once
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>>122341650
If you did Navlaan's questline, you gave it to him.
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>>122346235
I haven't talked to Navlaan in hollow form yet. I did once as a human, but he just told me to not talk to him.
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>>122346235
you never give it to him
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But where is my feather? :(
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>the real dark souls starts here
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Supposedly the SilverBlack Spear and Partizan have the same moveset. Are they fun to use, and which would be better with 40DEX, 25FTH, and 25INT? Should I infuse? This is for my Pyro.
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>>122335668
What if you didn't go hollow anymore?

Either way they better fucking bring back non-cracked eye orbs.
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>>122348343
Ohhh wait, I remember, the Emerald Herald hasn't given me the aged feather yet. I haven't been to the Dragon Aerie yet

sorry for bothering you, everyone, I'm stupid >.>
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>>122346793
just buy 99 homeward bones.
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>>122348483
>>122348343
erp, and I didn't mean to reply to that post

I'm going to bed now
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>>122348561
I don't want to raise my soul level, I have to stay at a certain tier. Not for PvP, but for PvE because I am terrible at this game and I need summons to beat bosses for me. If I use souls to buy bones, then I'll get out of tier and I will have to solo bosses.
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>>122348698
they arent that expensive.

and you will find summons at any sm within reason.

and do the bosses yourself, why play the game unless you are going t play it yourself?
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I hope there's a gravelord equivalent in ds3 for free for all pvp shenanigans again
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>>122349220
Gravelord vs Undead Rapport for mob teamfights
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why are miracles so boring in demons souls?
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>>122349192
I like exploring the world and fulfilling some quest, but I don't like scary monsters. I don't have the skill level to beat bosses on my own.

I've already spent 150 hours on this game and I'm just at Aldia's Keep and I might as well finish it up

Yes I know, I'm not gud at all
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>>122349381
>Why is all magic boring in every souls game
Fixed it for you.
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>>122349930
i undertand quaint pacifism but you are a man arent you. a man needs to run head first into challenges and enjoy dying to fearsome beasts.

to hit and to be hit and to win. that is what makes a man. be strong. you can do it.
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>>122346793
just use the darksign
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>>122350187
Inspirational post.
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>>122350187
>you have to like what I like or you aren't a man
sounds a lot like no true scot
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>>122351467
does anyone stll play DaS on steam?
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>Landing a Dark Hand R2 on someone in PvP
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Why is nearly every other person I invade tonight disconnecting?
And what's with the sudden influx of new players on 360? DS3 is still far off, and most people have migrated to current gen/PC DaS2. I was using my SL1 Dickwraith and I ran in to dozens of legit new players (only about the first 3 or so achievements)

It's kinda cute watching a host panic at their first invasion. Some guy tried to black crystal me away before I poisoned him.
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I'm gonna play DS2 for the first time. What's the most fun build to use? I'd prefer something that wasn't available in DS1.
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>>122352713
>I'd prefer something that wasn't available in DS1
Hexer
Dual-swordsman
Pretty much it
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>>122353058
Fuck
I'm getting tired
Meant to reply to >>122352821
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>>122350185
Pyromancy is fun. Mostly short ranged and AoE. Sorcery needs more spells like Soul Shower, Soul Bolt and Soul Spear Barrage. Ranged in Dark Souls isn't really in the spirit of the game.
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>>122352821
Get two Caestus and enough StrDex to powerstance them, then punc everything and everyone to death. That's what I did for my first playthrough and it was fun. Hexers are new but they play exactly lile sorcerers, so zzzzz. You spend most of your time spamming Dark Orb with the Sunset Staff.
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>crying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9x_koRZ2bA
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Been replaying Dark Souls recently

>Doing Ornstein build
>Just got the Dragonslayer Spear and got it to +3
>In Painted World now

Where do people put their signs for Priscilla? I'm a Sunbro, so I like to help a couple people with a boss before I do it myself

Also, should I keep using Havel's Ring and put my points into Dex and Faith or put points into Endurance so I can roll and use a different ring?
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>Siegmeyer dies not even two seconds after he jumps into the pit
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>>122353446
I always take a bow and shoot them until they have about 5-10% health left.
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I want to fuck Pinwheel so badly. I think I might still have my erotic fanfiction I wrote of Chosen Unead x Pinwheel (and his doppelgangers). I later wrote a chapter with Seath x Chosen Undead.
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what chestplate in dark souls 1 would best fit a Future Trunks cosplay?
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>>122353894

my semen
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>>122353894
Witch Robe
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>>122353894
>broadsword
>not shortsword
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>>122353894
Hollow warrior
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>>122354023
I'm actually kind of intending to go with the BSS for the moveset, which is more akin to Future Trunks' moveset, although the gold crossguard doesn't work. Broadsword is just a placeholder.
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>farm 405000 souls for absolution
>only needed 40500

Could be worse I guess
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How many cocks does Pinwheel have?
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>>122355460
Anywhere between 1 and 2 depending on whether or not the owner of the child mask is a boy or girl
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can someone give me the general history of what happened to the redrosie channel?
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I want Ornstein to destroy my asshole
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ded franchise
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>>122352009
I literally started playing for the first time not too long ago after finally getting my DualShock3 to work on my PC. Just finished crafting my Furysword. Gonna call it a night for now, but tomorrow after work, I'm gonna lube up my anus and dive headfirst into my first against Farley and Spade.
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New league of legends skin clearly a solaire reference no?

Anyone else as excited as I am about this? I literally gasped, so hyped.
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Fighting unlocked with the Demon Greathammer is making me far more skilled at the game in general. Smashing bellbonging twinks feels so good.
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>>122359842
No one will ever be so grossly inebriated.
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>>122359842
from the thumbnail, i thought it was a vagrant
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>>122359842
The pagan sun god isn't exactly unique
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>>122360082
>>122360082
true, but has no other references in game though, there are some desert people and a sun cult but gragas has no connection to those areas, and no champs have chainmail
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>>122313496

DaS:
Elite Knight
Black Knight
Ornstein's

DaS2:
Drakeblood
Alva
Raime's
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Man, i miss being gravelorded. I wish the game got some life, especially the less popular covenants.

>also yes this pic is recent, but that was just a few man gravelord FC thingy
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>>122360726
Artorias, because I cry everytime I need to kiil the hero of lordran.
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>>122360726
Why do you keep bringing this up? Why?
The real answer is Bed of Chaos
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I'm so mad I keep dying
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>>122360726
Iron Golem
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>>122349930
>I don't have the skill level to beat bosses on my own.

What skill level? The required bosses in DaS2 are overall the easiest in the series.
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>>122361292
>until /dsg/
>/dsg/

speak for yourself, no one besides you even slightly cares about this made up drama

fuck off to /v/ you worm
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>>122361115
can you feel the hollowing gnawing away at your humanity? it's very simple to stop dying. simply stop playing. keh keh keh keh...
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how does he get a new ip everyday?
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>>122361748
I'm amazed how desperate some people are.
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>>122361710
I lost my mind to DOS games in like 2002
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>>122361748
>he thinks ban evasions are difficult
just hide and ingore
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>>122361748
Could be multiple people.

Someone on /k/ once got assblasted that people didn't get hard over his $10 folder so he started posting $400 folders and saying everything else was shit. He eventually got sick of it and some other fag took up the mantle for reasons that I'm sure a healthy mind cannot comprehend.
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>>122361886
the only reason I haven't filtered his posts is because I find it funny
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>>122360726

ooga booga darkness mutant gorilla nigger fucking jumping around with his bix nood basketball shit fucking pissing all over me and trying to grab me with his masturbation arm like fuck you manus nobody wanted you to wake up
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So how big are the 4 Kings exactly?
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Is PC Dark Souls 2 better than it was at launch?

I played it at launch and it was fucking atrocious. Enemy placement, the game mechanics in general, etc.
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>>122362632
>Is Dark Souls 2 a carbon copy of Dark Souls 1 yet?

No, please shut up about it.
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>>122359842
chug that estus
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>>122359842
>excited

Why would I ever be excited for a moba character?
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>>122364520
>character
it's just a skin. literally nothing in the figurative sense. either
a. he's an autist or
b. he's mocking le ebik brolaire praze teh SUN xD
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>>122364745
>hating on solaire
literally despicable
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Are elemental weapons viable in DaS2 or am i forced to use robflynn if i want to do damage in pvp?
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>>122365304
they are only good if you buff them with their respective element. at this point they become better than anything else.
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>>122365397
I was talking about infused+buffed weapons, yes.
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>>122365271
Solaire was a fag and he died like a bitch with a bug on his head.
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>>122365651
See solairs issue was that he chose to advance in levels rather than just chill out at areas where people had trouble the most
Well done you helped 1 undead to Gwyn and then helped him fight that guy, what now dipshit who else is going to summon your ass?
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>>122308281
Same guy, I just got to the gardens after killing the one legged beetle creature.

I got a question, I found a Black knight sword after killing the first BK that guarded a ring, and now that I can equip it, I kinda feel like I breeze through everything...

I killed the Gargoyle boss in like 5 hits, and the beetle guy as well, just run behind him and attack him, 8 or so hits and he is down.

Is the sword considered extremely strong?
because it gives super good stats (220) for not much investment,
it attacks considerably fast and in a large arc and doesn't take that much stamina.

Should I keep using it and upgrade it with the shards?
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Is there ANY reason to be excited about DaS3?

I don't feel anything
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>>122366173
hide-tan
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>>122366173
The impending butthurt as extreme DS1 fans will be forced to deal with the fact that none of the games stories are connected.
The coming shitstorm of DS2 fans feeling vindicated over another new game coming up and fucking with DS1's lore, DS1 purists off to claim it as the best thing since forever and Miazaky apologists that will try their hardest to make it all connect together when it shouldn't will be wonderful
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>>122366351
who?
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>>122366173
New Souls game. I'm pretty excited, regardless of what we actually get.
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>>122366387
>implying miyazaki will fuck up the lore
Did you forget he was responsible for DaS1? Besides, NOBODY can fuck up the lore as hard as B-Team did.
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>>122366825
>who?
why dont you just get the fuck out of the dark souls general right now.
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>>122367010
I'm not that guy but i've been posting here for two years and i have no idea who this is.
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>>122366981
>Did you forget he was responsible for DaS1?
Did you?

Bunch of shit in the game that makes no sense
Why are there Silver Coins in Anor Londo
Why do DEMONS bring you to Anor Londo
Why is there a giant black abyss instead of streets at the bottom of Anor Londo
Why is there a goddamn titanite demon in a church in Anor Londo
Why is a crow bringing undead between the Asylum and Lorderan
Why the fuck are people just randomly bigger than everyone else
And lets not forget the two biggest holes in the series
Why do NPCs not respawn (by extension why does Oscar respawn once)
UNDEAD CORPSES.

DS1 was a good game with good writing but this hero worsphip of Miazaky being some kind of god incarnate come to save videogames is just stupid
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>>122367267
>Why are there Silver Coins in Anor Londo
Because it used to be normal currency before things went to shit
>Why do DEMONS bring you to Anor Londo
Their item descriptions state that they are different from the other chaos demons and have been in service of anor londo for a very long time. Keep in mind demons aren't always evil in japanese culture.
>Why is there a goddamn titanite demon in a church in Anor Londo
Because they are PROWLING demon's, they wander around.
>Why is a crow bringing undead between the Asylum and Lorderan
I'll give that one to you, but not everything needs an explanation
>Why the fuck are people just randomly bigger than everyone else
Because those aren't even human, they're kin of the gods.
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>>122367267
no u
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>>122367552
>Because it used to be normal currency before things went to shit
Yes but the silver coins depict someone that came about AFTER everything went to shit, after anor londo got sealed off, why are they there?
>Because they are PROWLING demon's, they wander around.
They don't, they never leave their spawn area unless agroed and always go back there.
>Because those aren't even human, they're kin of the gods.
So are rats gods too?
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>>122367552
To be fair, there´s no way that titanite chunk would fit through the doors.
I also never got why some enemies leave corpses and some just vanish.
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>>122367676
>So are rats gods too?
Are you literally retarded? It's a fantasy game, giant rats can exist and be a regular species in that particular world.
>Yes but the silver coins depict someone that came about AFTER everything went to shit, after anor londo got sealed off, why are they there?
What? No where in the game it is stated when Knight King Rendall actually ruled, he might as well have been power since anor londo was living it's golden age.
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>>122367267
>Why are there Silver Coins in Anor Londo
he mimics have them. the way i understand mimics is that they wander around until they find something they perceive as having value, coins enchanted weapons etc. then eat them and wait for food.
>Why do DEMONS bring you to Anor Londo
i suppose they have some agenda about the state of lordran
>Why is there a giant black abyss instead of streets at the bottom of Anor Londo
because the light in anor londo is an illusion
>Why is there a goddamn titanite demon in a church in Anor Londo
because they arose from powerful titanite slabs. there was obviously a titanite slab in anor londo somewhere that the demon spawned from.
>Why is a crow bringing undead between the Asylum and Lorderan
velka
>Why the fuck are people just randomly bigger than everyone else
its a metaphor for power. you see thorugh the eyes of the chosen undead, after all.
>Why do NPCs not respawn (by extension why does Oscar respawn once)
idk
>UNDEAD CORPSES
corpses of non-undead humans
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>>122367676
Oh and about the prowling demon's, from tried to make those and the black knight wander around the map, but they couldn't get them to work, so they just put them in several different areas instead.
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>>122367913
That would have been so cool.
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>>122367913
do you think we are going to see an enemy type that pursues us around the world in DaS3 like the black knights and pursuer were supposed to?
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>>122367913
>One of those just walks into you as you start Undead Burg
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>>122368038
They did manage to make some Bloodborne enemies patrol certain areas and not just wait for the player so who knows.
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>>122367843
>No where in the game it is stated when Knight King Rendall actually ruled
Except for the part where the Baller knights who served under him tried to reach anor lonod but failed.
The hole remains as large as ever, how did a coin bearing his face get there if even his knights couldn't?
> It's a fantasy game, giant rats can exist and be a regular species in that particular world.
Then why are there normal sized rats then?

>>122367894
>he mimics have them. the way i understand mimics is that they wander around until they find something they perceive as having value, coins enchanted weapons etc. then eat them and wait for food.
Same hole as above, you are supposedly the first undead in ages to make it all the way to Anor Londo and Knight King whatshisface came to rule after the gods had fucked off.
>i suppose they have some agenda about the state of lordran
This cordiditcs everything else about them as being mindless monsters
>because the light in anor londo is an illusion
But the rest of the ground everwhere else is fine, in fact there are hills just to the side of the black abyss where you can clearly see dirt, this also brings up the other plot hole of "how is the sun just not there for like one city sized area of a world but but exists perfectly fine elsewhere"
>because they arose from powerful titanite slabs. there was obviously a titanite slab in anor londo somewhere that the demon spawned from.
But then as the other anon pointed out how the shit did it get into that room?
Was it a church dedicated to worshiping slabs of fucking metal or some shit?
>velka
Exactly what does the goddess of SIN have to do with the undead prophecy?
And if she is behind it why the whole charade of pretending the be an egg?
>its a metaphor for power. you see thorugh the eyes of the chosen undead, after all.
No you don't, its a third person game.
Also the size is clearly a physical thing as larger enemies can't pass through smaller doorways + large/small stairs
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>>122367894
2k word limit
>corpses of non-undead humans
You find souls of undead people on hem (soul of a proud knight etc)
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>>122368237
>Except for the part where the Baller knights who served under him tried to reach anor lonod but failed.
>The hole remains as large as ever, how did a coin bearing his face get there if even his knights couldn't?
Because his knights went undead for who knows how long. He might as well be alive back then
>Then why are there normal sized rats then?
Different species
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>>122368321
you can collect non-undead souls too.

what we really should be talking about is why some undead can drop their gear. ricard, undead merchant etc.
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>>122368365
>Because his knights went undead for who knows how long
Meaning the undead curse was in full swing
Meaning that the gods had fucked off and Anor Londo was basically sealed off
Meaning how the fuck did that coin get there?

>>122368385
>you can collect non-undead souls too.
Every "generic solid soul" you collect is the soul of an undead, its right there in the description, the large souls of special beings are another case but you don't find those on corpses.
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>>122368441
i am>>122367894
i will admit you are right about a lot of these things.

i would argue my point about the metaphorical stuff (summons and convoluted time works into this too) but its a very abstract concept that is difficult to explain.
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>>122368651
>i would argue my point about the metaphorical stuff (summons and convoluted time works into this too) but its a very abstract concept that is difficult to explain.
The things is "time is convoluted" can be used to excuse practically anything and you know its FINE.

Everything doesn't have to make perfect sense, its a videogame a lot can be excused with real world factors like running out of time, gameplay concessions etc, and its all perfectly fine because of suspension of disbelief, it just irks me that some people seem to legitimately think that DS1 was somehow a perfect masterpiece and Miazaky is a genius like no other.

DS1 was a fine game and DS3 will probably be one as well, but lets not try too hard to connect them together and lets not be too hard on the sequels in the lore department.
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>>122360726
Havel the Rock
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>>122368237
>Exactly what does the goddess of SIN have to do with the undead prophecy?
>And if she is behind it why the whole charade of pretending the be an egg?

Velka has her own agenda (from what we are told in item descriptions) and from what we learned from SoTFS Gywn committed the first sin by linking the fire. Since most of the Gods went with Gywn's plans or went crazy or went to recreate the first flame. The only god that really did nothing wrong was Nito. Regardless Velka is one of the biggest mysteries to me in Dark Souls lore. All we know is that she exist and has her own agenda. Plus everyone was using you in DS1. The way a giant crow/Raven takes you to Lordran makes me think Velka was one of the three trying to pull the string. Regardless of the reasons I think it's clear she wanted the gods dead.
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>>122369297
>I think it's clear she wanted the gods dead.
Yes but if she did then why bother with the prophecy.

I mean gods are dying men are assuming their true form again and slowly becoming more and more powerful as the light fades, the prophecy exists explicitly so that the gods would have someone else to burn, to prolog the age of fire, the age of gods.

By helping the chosen undead Velke is doing pretty much the one thing that can still save the gods. If you want to argue that she wants the alternate ending, then the issue becomes that it would have been far easier and less risky to never help the chosen undead in the first place and just slowly wait for gwyn to finish burning.
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>Lock on
>want to roll backwards
>dumb zombie thinks he needs to turn around first
thanks game
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>>122369580
>actually playing dark souls instead of complaining about it on the general
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>>122369580
More like
>Lock on
>Strafe around enemy and attack
>Dumb zombie swings in the direction I was strafing
Thanks DSII.

Why even have lock-on if you're going to treat it like unlocked? DS1 wasn't perfect but it didn't feel half as clunky and this is one of the main issues.
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>>122369478
>Yes but if she did then why bother with the prophecy.
She did not. She simply used it and you as a tool to kill the gods. She knew a powerful undead would show up one day.

>By helping the chosen undead Velke is doing pretty much the one thing that can still save the gods.

But the Chosen undead kills the gods she has an issue with. She did not go after the other gods who left Anor Londo just the ones who helped Gwyn.
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>>122369950
>She did not go after the other gods who left Anor Londo just the ones who helped Gwyn.
That actually makes sense.
The only one you have to kill that isn´t either working for Gwyn or just generally fucking shit up is Queelag, and she just tries to kill you when you want to pass through.
And Sif that dumb ungrateful bitch.
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is the kings ultra greatsword any good or should i just stick with the zweihander (ds2 btw)
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>>122370298
I think if you can muster the souls for it it's probably good, but I've never used it. I think it adds a hundred some attack damage when you're floating a million souls.

I wish the Sinner's sword didn't scale DOWN with Sin. That would have been such a cool weapon to use.
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>mfw trying out the maxed torso stone
You have to give up armor so i guess it's not viable but it sure it's fun
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>>122369759
Can't you turn that off in the settings though?

>>122370298
It's pretty good if you don't mind the absurd strenght requirement and the massive weight. Deals strike damage, huge poise damage, knockdown on a few attacks as expected, good moveset. Just treat it more like a greataxe then an UGS.
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>>122369950
>She simply used it and you as a tool to kill the gods
Yes but again this falls apart when you consider the fact that gods are dying as is, the undead curse will take care of all of them its the nature of the world, it makes 0 sense to help an undead who might then go off to light the first flame prolonging the age of gods.
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>>122370610
>the undead curse will take care of all of them its the nature of the world,
But that´s wrong.
The undead curse doesn´t affect the gods, they aren´t human,
Then only way the curse will take care of them if it leads to hordes of immortal fuckers coming to kill them until one finally manages to pull it off.
Also the undead curse isn´t natural at all. Gwyn created that when he linked the fire, to force humans to keep the fire alive with humanity and until there is one that will burn nicely and sets himself on fire. Rinse and repeat. Fire that doesn´t go out isn´t natural.
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>>122370440
Being able to stunlock havelmoms with a rapier after a roar combo is pretty neat though.
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>>122370610
You are thinking she considers that all gods share the same sin. They don't. Cause if that was the case she herself would have to die and I doubt she would want that. It's clear she only wanted to kill the Gywn and the ones who helped. Except for Nito who was just chilling You are also thinking she cares about the outcome of the prophecy. There is nothing to support that she does or does not. You also forget that she is a god herself. It's not like a prolong age of fire would be bad for her. But I don't believe that was her intention as she only helped you out once. We know the gods fear her though cause we see items related to her in the painting the gods threw everything they feared in. Which seems to imply that they feared her. We also know humans in Carim worship her just a fun fact.
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>>122371010
>Except for Nito who was just chilling
Nito helped big time linking the fire to humanity.
That´s why he had the rite of kindling.
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>>122371107
Oh snap good call. I forgot about that. I guess my bro Nito was guilty
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>>122370872
>The undead curse doesn´t affect the gods, they aren´t human,
Thats the point

The gods are strong during the age of fire and men who inherent the DARK soul become stronger as the fire fades, as men become stronger gods will slowly but surely get outpaced by them

Dark Souls isn't your typical western god thing, the gods are physical beings like humans who are stronger when the fire is stronger and grow weaker as the dark spreads, they can't wave their hands around and just have shit appear, they are not actual "gods" they just called it that to get humans to obey them.
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>>122369580
So you haven't noticed that your character turns around in DaS's backroll animation as well, but leaves the BS hitbox on the wrong side?
>>122369759
You are just bad.
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>>122370968
Wait, the roar boosts weapon damage too?
I though it boosted only punches.
Good to know
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>>122371271
Only weapon damage, not spells.
It also does 60 or so poise damage in addition to the guranteed push/pull.
Furysword dragons are great.
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I have a good bit of soft humanity. Should I bother farming and reinforcing a Balder set in the Undead Parish? NG here
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>>122371208
I still fail to see how humanity slowly going hollow would affect the gods that are hiding and sometimes trying to find ways to prolong the age of fire.
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>>122371586
Reinforcing armor is not that useful at all.
Do whatever you can to get your weapon up and get the min stat to wield whatever you want at the moment.
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>>122371873
Can you elaborate?
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>>122371906
Armor is quite variable.
I change quite often what pieces of armor i wear depending what kind of roll i need or for a specific resistance.
Upgrading them doesn't give the huge advantages upgrading weapon does.
Also you don't upgrade armor in one swoop and it requires 4 times as much material to do it
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>>122371790
>I still fail to see how humanity slowly going hollow would affect the gods that are hiding and sometimes trying to find ways to prolong the age of fire.
Because they can't do anything, they moment they show their pretty little faces they get mobbed by everyone wanting their souls, can't really build a city full of followers like that can you?

This is literally the main theme of the game game, the gods are dying and men are becoming stronger, just not in a way most people would consider "good"

>>122371906
The upgrades you get out of it are so tiny for the resources invested that unless you REALLY REALLY REALLY like the look of a set and are 100% sure you will never ever use anything else its far better to just not upgrade it and swap it out for a better set later down the line
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>>122372098
I think you forget how a god nearly drained of all his power can still slap the shit out of a "full powered" undead
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>>122372281
It's still impressive tho.
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>>122372098
>can't really build a city full of followers like that can you?
Why should they?
As you said, they aren´t gods, they don´t need worship.
Also, humans don´t grow stronger they are just harder to kill, qand when they hollow they aren´t a threat to anything that doesn´t dance around in front of them.
Hiding and trying to fix shit or just sitting the whole thing out are perfectly viable options to the gods.
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>>122372281
>I think you forget how a god nearly drained of all his power can still slap the shit out of a "full powered" undead
And he still got rekt in the end.
Gods die, undead by definition don't.

>>122372625
>Why should they?
They are a pile of cuts?
Who knows clearly they want people worshiping them from everything you see ingame.

I REALLY don't get why you are even trying to argue the point here, its the theme of the game its also literally in the intro trailer and everything.
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>>122372696
I would argue that being hollow'd is worse then death. Also we saw in the DLC what the abyss does to men. The Age of Man is a lie just as kingseeker tells you that you will be the successor to Gwyn
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>>122372696
I´m still trying to get you to explain how the curse alone would kill the gods.
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>>122372813
>The Age of Man is a lie just as kingseeker tells you that you will be the successor to Gwyn
But its not, men are not what they are in the real world in the dark souls world.

Dark is the nature of man, every man has the fragment of the Dark Soul it's what defines someone as a man, the age of fire is an illusion made by the gods, its a nice illusion that you would probably want to live in sure, but its still an illusion, and again its the point of the the ending choice
Do you prolong the age of fire prolong the illusion or do you accept the nature of man and let the fire fade?

>>122372836
Because the gods can die and undead can't as the curse progresses further and further the abyss spreads all over the place and the gods can't do shit about it because they would end up being killed by a random undead.
The end scenario for the curse of undeath is that literally EVERYONE other than the gods would be undead, and they would fuck up the gods, after all a single undead managed to kill shitloads of the in the game, its not an impossible task because the gods are not gods, just beings with special souls that happen to look big and impressive.

Besides if the undead curse isn't an issue why flee the city of gods?
The gods fled because the curse was becoming such a massive issue there off to wherever hoping its better off, CLEARLY they are afraid of the curse.
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is there a way to see what armor combos look like in DaS without actually opening the game and getting those items? my computer is kill so im restrained to this laptop for now
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>>122373090
I have hope that the Abyss can be stopped.

>Besides if the undead curse isn't an issue why flee the city of gods?

the left cause the dark was spreading faster then they thought it was.
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>>122373314
>the left cause the dark was spreading faster then they thought it was.
But as its not an issue for them so why bother?
They are either afraid of the light dying or not, it can't be both.
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>>122373375
>But as its not an issue for them so why bother?

wut. We've been shown that the dark is a threat to everything.
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>>122373453
>We've been shown that the dark is a threat to everything
No?
You can live in it obviously enough, 4 kings and the serpent and a goddamn bonfire in the abyss exist after all.

Dark is not bad in universe, its just the opposite of Life aka Fire
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>>122373572
the DLC showed what it does to Humans. The 4kings were drastically mutated when they accepted the power of the abyss. It hardly seems like a good thing let a lone not a bad thing
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>>122373701
>does to Humans
Yeah it changes them, don't apply real world logic to the souls universe, the cities and things you see are all "false", what you think is civilization is fire corrupting humans, what the dark does is remove the corruption and changes humans back to their true form.
All humans poses a fragment of the Dark Soul, Dark is the nature of man.
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>>122373090
I think they ran away from the dark, not the curse.
also, hollows are not infinite in numbers or invulnerable. I´m actually curious if they can heal wounds.
They are pretty fragile,pretty dumb and have zero own initiative. A single silver knight could propably clear the Undead Burg. Break some bones and then throw them down a hole, there´s enough deep holes around.
Not that they would need to do that, as no hollow would ever muster the motivation to finish the climb up to Anor Londo or down into the catacombs.
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>>122373897
>I think they ran away from the dark, not the curse.
Those two are linked, you can't have one without the other
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>>122373878
Humans are much more then the dark inside them. They have souls like all living things in the souls universe. "Surely you humans are more then just dark"


>real world logic
I never was. I don't know how you got that from me reciting things from the DLC but okay.
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>>122373974
Now that´s just bullshit, the curse is something Gwyn artificially created to force humanity to feed the fire, stopping the dark.
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>>122374018
>I never was. I don't know how you got that from me reciting things from the DLC but okay.
Because you keep saying that the dark is bad for humans and that what happens in the DLC is bad.

It's only bad if you apply real world logic of humans wanting to build cities and shit, its not the same in the souls universe, Dark is the nature of man and fire corrupts men.
There could be an argument for said corruption being good or bad, but you can't make a statement saying that dark is bad for everyone it just flat out isn't
Dark isn't bad, it never has been.

>>122374082
What are you on about?
What created the curse was humans inhereting the lord souls and the fire of life, again "life" here is an odd term because the pygmy based life was around before the lord souls and before the dragons were killed, and that's what humans revert back to eventually.
The cure of undeath is just that process happening and being accelerated by the thing that keeps humans in their false form
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>>122374082
>>122374363
>The cure of undeath is just that process happening and being accelerated by the thing that keeps humans in their false form
gahlgaj
The curse of undeath is just that process happening and being accelerated by taking that which keeps humans in their false form (humanity)*
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>>122374363
Being a mindless monster seems pretty bad to me. Again I was never putting real life logic into I still don't understand how you thought I was and how you still seem to think I am. Stop Assuming shit.
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>>122374608
>Again I was never putting real life logic
You still are
>Being a mindless monster seems pretty bad to me
Thats what men ARE universe, everything else corruption of that.
Sure you can hold that you think its a bad thing because thats your opinion, but lore wise its not, it just flat out isn't.
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>>122374363
>dark is bad for everyone it just flat out isn't
>Dark isn't bad, it never has been.

Shows it corrupting humans and Giants alike turning them into mindless monsters that attack anyone and anything. Complete utter blackness that shallows anything with meaning. ITS NOT BAD GUYS COME ONE

>>122374719
>You still are
No I'm pretty sure I'm talking about a ambiguous plot of a video game. So either we are in said video game are you are retarded
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>>122374363
>>122374489
No, the curse is the result of Gryn trying to stop the natural order of things and linking the fire to humanity, forcing a "little fire-big fire" circle instead of a "light-dark" one.
That´s what the whole first sin thing is all about.
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>>122374719
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>>122368237
>Except for the part where the Baller knights who served under him tried to reach anor lonod but failed.
>The hole remains as large as ever, how did a coin bearing his face get there if even his knights couldn't?
pretty sure there's a Balder Knight cosplayer in dark Anor Londo along with the other darkmoon knight
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>>122374826
>Shows it corrupting humans and Giants alike turning them into mindless monsters that attack anyone and anything. Complete utter blackness that shallows anything with meaning. ITS NOT BAD GUYS COME ONE
Only if you apply real world logic of people building cities as the goal of humanity.

Life existed before fire this much is told in the intro, how did you miss that?

>No I'm pretty sure I'm talking about a ambiguous plot of a video game
See above the root problem is that you are applying real life logic of what humans are to the game universe and saying
>well its bad because its not like X
Dark isnt bad, the lore isn't black and white like that you are doing the game a massive disservice by implying that it is.

STOP APPLYING REAL WORLD LOGIC OF WHAT REAL WORLD HUMANS DO ITS NOT THE SAME
Goddamn anon you are so absurdly biased that you refuse to admit that the bias even exists, like a fucking brick wall.

>>122374876
What is the curse?
It's humans dying and assuming their pygmy form
The only thing Gwyn did was give the humans the illusion of life, pygmy based life is as old as the dragons
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>>122375162
>Only if you apply real world logic of people building cities as the goal of humanity.

No I applying this to what the game has shown me when Humans and Giants come across the abyss.

>>122375162
>>Life existed before fire this much is told in the intro, how did you miss that?

No they make sure to tell you that it was a grey period. Nothing lived or died the dragons just existed. The dark is the end of everything.

>STOP APPLYING REAL WORLD LOGIC OF WHAT REAL WORLD

Saying I am bring real world logic is a weak argument and is making you come off as a complete fool.
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>>122375162
>It's humans dying and assuming their pygmy form
But it´s not.
The key part of the curse is that it can be stopped by literalls feeding the flames humanity.
Giving away the very thing that makes you human to stay human, so a fire that is supposed to fade can burn a bit longer, is by no stretch of imagination part of the natural circle of light and dark.
Everything about that process is unnatural, even if the result is the natural state of man.
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>>122375162
Holy fuck you are pure gold
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How do beat UGS in PvP? I've been trying to do some PvP using a dex/dagger build but every time I come up against someone with a UGS I get flattened.
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>>122375331
>No I applying this to what the game has shown me when Humans and Giants come across the abyss.
And what they look like and do is bad because?

Seriously take a moment to consider WHY you think that they are bad?
Hey look its because that not what humans in the real world look like and what the humans striving to be like the real world humans in the game look like and act.
>>122375404
>Giving away the very thing that makes you human to stay human
No, what makes a human human is the Dark Soul.

>>122375429
Like fuck my mistake here was expecting a general that constantly bitches about the lore to know more about it than
>dark is bad
>light is good
>gods are cool
>light the fire k
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actual physic that warp the 3d model for crushing weapons
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>>122375551
You are right I was wrong. I mean Look at the people who came in contract with the dark in the DLC. Truly it is better for any living thing to just be a monster with no mind. Look at Artorias someone who was a great warrior. Who was much better off as a mindless monster. Countless people here have explained why the feel the dark is bad. Maybe you could explain why it's good? Without yelling "REAL WORLD LOGIC".

>Like fuck my mistake here was expecting a general that constantly bitches about the lore to know more about it than

then maybe you should learn the lore then. It was clearly said in SoTFS that when Gwyn link the fire it caused the cruse and whatever man's fate was is nothing but a illusion trapped in a circle which implies that linking the fire or letting the dark over take all is not a true end or beginning for Men. Everything we were told about the dark in DS1 is a lie. Everything we were shown about it in the DLC is the truth and is what I have been stating as my source this whole time
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>>122375510
uhh, parry?
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>>122375920
>You are right I was wrong. I mean Look at the people who came in contract with the dark in the DLC. Truly it is better for any living thing to just be a monster with no mind. Look at Artorias someone who was a great warrior. Who was much better off as a mindless monster
And again I'm asking for the 5th time this is BAD because?
As I said before you think its bad because you think that humans should always strive towards what humans in the real world are doing.
>great warrior
is literally just that.

What I don't get is why you are refusing that its your natural bias at work. Seriously take a second to actually analyze why you hold a stance rather than just assume its right and never think about it ever again.
But no that would be too much for you wouldn't it, writing can't be more complex than
>light good
>dark bad
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>>122375551
>Giving away the very thing that makes you human to stay human
>No, what makes a human human is the Dark Soul.
>humanity isn´t a fragment of the dark soul
And that´s the point where we can stop discussing because you clearly don´t know your shit
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>>122376131
I've already explained my side of it. I'm waiting on you to explain how it is good. You have yet to do that at all you just sit there and yell "NUH UH" or "REAL WORLD LOGIC" Fucking explain your side of the argument for once
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>>122376131
I don't get what you want non-human humans or whatever terminology applies here to actually DO, besides stew in a pit like in the opening cutscene, full of hollows
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>>122375551
>And what they look like and do is bad because?
How is it not bad?

>>122375551
>No, what makes a human human is the Dark Soul.

Holy shit hahahahahah
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>>122375551
>Says we don't know the lore

>Has no clue that humanity are fragments of the Dark Soul
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>>122376212
>it is good
Jesus fucking christ you are actually incapable of anything past binary good/bad.
Neither is good neither is bad, I explained this way back when talking about the endings.

You either burn yourself and prolong the illusion of life that everyone likes so much
Or you don't and let the fire fade and let men assume their true form

Neither is good neither is bad, they are just DIFFERENT.

>>122376334
Nothing I don't want them to do anything the same way I don't want a rock to "do" anything.

>>122376195
>>122376348
>>122376432
Like jesus christ why on earth did I ever assume you retards knew anything about the lore?
But solair right guys sunbros eks dee
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As a caster, should I bother going to 12 dex for a rapier/bandit's dagger or just stick to an enchanted/magic regular dagger (at 11 dex currently)
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>>122376470
You clearly are the one who knows nothing about the lore. It's been common knowledge that humanity sprites are fragments of the dark soul. The game spells it out for you with the fucking Title
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>>122376678
Riddle me this mr wise guy, what is the definition of a fragment.

If you give away a fragment of something then by definition you still have part of that something with you.
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>>122376470
How do you know rock in the souls universe act like the rocks in our universe?
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>>122376470
>Nothing I don't want them to do anything the same way I don't want a rock to "do" anything.

Rock Souls sounds like a thrilling videogame series to me
Is it just me or has that Plague of gripes series caused a sudden spike in "QUESTION EVERYTHING" posters?
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>>122376470
Stop applying real world logic to rocks. Not cool man
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>>122376470
Sup
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>>122376781
>>122376808
>>122376901
I can see that you are very upset over being called out on your 15 year olds reading comprehension.

But hey
Dark = bad
Light = good
was totally the intent in these games. "Something has to be good or bad I can't understand it otherwise", what 1 INT people am I talking to
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whats up with this guy getting autistic over the lore

why dont we all play dark souls
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>>122377039
Hey at least I explained why I feel the dark is bad. I never said it was the intent I never brought real world logic into it, I stated things that was shown from gameplay and I asked you explain why you felt the opposite and you just started talking about rocks and in the process shown that did not know humanity and the dark soul are the samething. If your petty insults make you feel better then please continue.

>inb4 real world logic
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>>122377323
>Hey at least I explained why I feel the dark is bad
You were right but still you refuse to admit that you reason you think dark is bad is grounded in the fact that you can't comprehend the videogame universe working differently and humans being different.

It's fine tho
Dark = bad
Light = good
everything else is flat out too complex for you, but thats fine, some people were just born handicapped.
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>>122377531
>>122377531
Still waiting for you to explain your side of it.
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>trying out a new build and weapon type for first time
>summon some guy for some fun combat
>I lose but that wasn't unexpected
>as I fade away he gives me the thumbs down sign
When I was doing pvp in NG I didn't encounter any faggots. In NG+ I've encountered lots of people who taunt after winning, chug estus on the duel bridge, rush towards me to attack in the middle of a greeting wave, and rush towards me to attack while I'm buffing after being summoned despite the fact that they are fully buffed.

I might just go back to NG and burn ascetics to get anything I want
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>>122377531
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>>122377592
Anon are you retarded? Redundant question we both know that you are.>>122376470
>Neither is good neither is bad, they are just DIFFERENT.
But thats too hard for you isn't it?
Whats that you think Star Wars is the height of writing? Good on you.
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>>122377707
>letting taunts and estus bother you

you have to reach your zen desu senpai, they WANT you to get upset but you cant let them. of course u gotta get better at the game if you actually want to win though
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>>122377592
He didn´t and he won´t
>Like jesus christ why on earth did I ever assume you retards knew anything about the lore?
>But solair right guys sunbros eks dee
That´s literally the best explanation he will ever give.
Might as well talk to a rock.
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>>122377854
I've won plenty and not acted like a faggot. I just bow or praise the sun.

I'm about 10 seconds away from using CE to give myself 99 lloyd's talismans and just tossing one at the start of each match
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>>122377753
That post gives little to the argument on "why dark is good"
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>>122377861
Holy shit you are actually retarded you asked for my stance on light/dark and that was it.
>NEITHER IS GOOD OR BAD THEY ARE JUST DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Look I even capitalized all of it and added a few exclamation marks so it would be harder to miss

Alright good on you at least you realized how dumb you were.

>>122377973
Anon I don't know how to phrase it so that It would penetrate that thick skull of yours.
The lore isn't black and white, neither is good neither is bad.

Am I talking to an actual 13 year old right now?
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>>122377954
>not already doing that

theyll just use life gems instead though
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>>122378046
I don't know what we've seen of the dark sure looks bad to me. Getting turned into a mindless monster is pretty bad if you ask me. That is of course if you explain why that's not bad.

>Am I talking to an actual 13 year old right now?
Says the guy who did not know about humanity and the dark souls being the same
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>>122377707
>NG cycles
>mattering in DS2
Anon what are you smoking? But seriously don't let it get to you, you being upset is literally the entire point of taunting.
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>>122378124
I just can't fathom how people exist who need to heal with estus twice in a match and I haven't healed once despite ample opportunity, kill me and then taunt.

NO HONOR
O

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>>122378261
there is no honor in PVP. Your only mistake was thinking there was
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>>122378205
>humanity and the dark souls being the same
This might blow your mind but I told you to do it the last time and you didn't
Google "fragment", the results may surprise you.

But again Star Wars is the PEAK of writing
You have the good guys that are on the light side, good guys are good
You have the bad guys that are on the dark side, bad guys are dicks

Thats all that writing should ever aspire to be!
Dummy
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>O&S
>block everything
>die repeatedly
>mad
>unequip shield
>dodge everything
>win
Fuck shields
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>>122378314
There is honor where honorable people are found. DaS people are just shit. I will not heal with estus in a duel at a known dueling area.

Invasions are another story entirely.
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>>122378397
>hey you can block roll or parry!
>we need to make the monsters more threatning
>MAKE THEM HUUUGE
>Good idea
>alright blocking or parrying something thats as big as a house looks dumb how about it fucks your shit up if you try.
Welcome to the evolution of Dark Souls, we can see this in all the games and it will never stop.
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>>122378346
>a small part broken or separated off something.
All humanity sprites are fragments of the Dark Soul

>>122378346
>But again Star Wars is the PEAK of writing
Where did anyone say this? Why are you up Star Wars in a Souls thread?

>That is of course if you explain why that's not bad.
Still waiting. You can shitpost all you want. Won't change the fact that you have no argument.
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>>122378397
or maybe you shouldnt have tried to block the attacks of a 10 foot tall furry who attacks at the speed of light and his morbidly obese i know hes buff friend with his big faggot hammer
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Does everyone wear Agape Ring now?

I see no point in going higher than 7M SM
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>>122378591
>All humanity sprites are fragments of the Dark Soul
Now follow me, if you give away a part of something, does this mean that you no longer have any of it?
Did the realization of you being a 12 year old hit just now? How does it feel?

>Where did anyone say this?
You did, multiple times by claiming that Dark = Bad and Light = Good, you are incapable of grasping anything other than binary good/bad so obviously you would like something as bland as that.
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>>122378736

>>That is of course if you explain why that's not bad.
>Still waiting. You can shitpost all you want. Won't change the fact that you have no argument
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i think this looks cool, what do you guys think?
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>>122378736
He was asking where did anyone say anything about star wars when he said "Where did anyone say anything" You can't say people have shit reading comprehension and then fuck up like that
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>>122378815
>>122378921
Right I forget, your illiteracy and need to form kneejerk reactions before reading them>>122376470

>You either burn yourself and prolong the illusion of life that everyone likes so much
>Or you don't and let the fire fade and let men assume their true form
If you want to take DS2 into this
>A lie is a lie
>but is this so wrong?
Do you think its a good idea to prolong a lie and pretend that humans are something that they are not
Yes? Relight the flame
No? Let it die.

It's almost like its a well though out moral choice that you have to make based on your personal preferences and neither are inherently portrayed as good or bad!
No that can't be DARK = BAD LIGHT = GOOD, because you are so retarded that you refuse to ever for a second to consider that your opinion on a subject might be influenced by something you are not consciously aware of.
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>>122378736
>Now follow me, if you give away a part of something, does this mean that you no longer have any of it?
I still don´t know what the fuck you want to prove with that statement, so I´ll just assume it´s just you grasping for straws until you explain it. Which you will not.
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>>122379079
but who can say for sure that all humans are just dark. Maybe if they were not born with souls. You still have yet to explain why turning into a mindless monster is not bad
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>>122379104
>I still don´t know what the fuck you want to prove with that statement
Giving away humanity does not make you not human, what makes you human is the Dark Soul and giving away a part of it does not make you have none of it.
Dark Souls makes a human, giving away some of it does not stop you from being a human.

Obviously this is all far too confusing for you, after all if your fat ass takes some candy from a bowl of candy that means that the bowl stops being a bowl of candy.
Whats that dumbed down enough for you mr retard?
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>>122379079
>>122379079
see
>>122378815
Saying one is different is not the same as saying why it is not bad. Key word was EXPLAIN
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>>122353446
he rekt everyone in my save

>>122360246
there are even countries with sun with faces on their flags, like argentina and uruguay

>>122369297
>talking about DS1 lore
>mentions ds2
stopped reading here

>>122373314
the abyss stopped in the 2 times he appeared, and they were in the same place.
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>>122379348
>the abyss stopped in the 2 times he appeared, and they were in the same place.

wut
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>>122379294
See>>122379079
More precisely
>Do you think its a good idea to prolong a lie and pretend that humans are something that they are not
You truly are illiterate aren't you?

>>122379213
>but who can say for sure that all humans are just dark
The lore of the universe, all pygmy based life carries the dark souls and will revert back into their true (pygmy/hollow) form eventually.

It is the nature of man, everything else is corrupting it, now you either think that the corruption is worth it or not.
But again you are incapable of grasping that your approach to life has anything to do with this choice so why bother with the argument in the first place.
Light good dark bad you dumb.
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>>122379408
the area you fight the 4kings is just a bit below where you fight manus, it's the same place.
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>>122379265
>Whats that dumbed down enough for you mr retard?
No, please elaborate how humanity isn´t already a fragment of the dark soul and how giving away part of anything doesn´t make you have less than you had before.
And if you could take the time to clarify how any of that has any relevance to the shit you spouted before I´d be truly grateful.
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>>122379447
>The lore of the universe,
You've already shown you know nothing of the lore though. Did you just watch PoG's playthough and came right here to discuss how you are all knowing even when you show you don't know.

>>122379447
>It is the nature of man, everything else is corrupting it

How? If you ask me from what we are shown the abyss corrupts everything. Hell they even say that Artorias was corrupted by the Abyss and we see the same kind of thing happen to human. Sure the Humans came from the Dark, but the Abyss is not returning them to their pygmy state at all.

>>122379589
The tell you the Abyss is spreading thoughout all the games though. It reached New Londo after all. Sure there are both close to each other but the dark is spreading.
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>>122379592
>No, please elaborate how humanity isn´t already a fragment of the dark soul and how giving away part of anything doesn´t make you have less than you had before.
That was never the argument.
The original argument was that giving away humanity is not the same as giving away what makes a human because you still keep some of the dark soul.

Now the choice for you is either to admit that you are 0 reading comprehension or somehow try to worm your way out of the candy bowl analogy.

If you take some candy out of a bowl of candy it will still have candy in it and will still be a bowl of candy
If you take a fragment of the dark soul out of a human he will still be a human because he still has some of the Dark Soul

You can drop this at any point because you are literally arguing against a strawman you made because you couldn't be bothered with reading an entire post before making a kneejerk reaction.
Admitting to being wrong on the internet is such a hard thing to do for you isn't it?
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>>122379731
>If you ask me from what we are shown the abyss corrupts everything
Good thing I didn't then
Who the fuck cares about someone opinion who literally thinks that it boils down to "good vs evil"? Go back to star wars m8 this is too much for you.

But hey at least I can keep the smug confidence that this general literally knows nothing about the lore of the game it constantly bitches over.
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>>122379761
>No, please elaborate how humanity isn´t already a fragment of the dark soul
>That was never the argument.
>The original argument was that giving away humanity is not the same as giving away what makes a human
So we´re at the point where you claim the dark soul isn´t what made humand human now.
I´m curoius how much farther you can go.
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>>122379885
Okay maybe one day you can come down from your high horse and explain your reasoning.

Let it be known that when asked to explain his views he told me to watch star wars
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>>122380026
>So we´re at the point where you claim the dark soul isn´t what made humand human now.
No we are at my original point, that humanity isn't what makes a human, its the dark soul.

But keep going with that strawman anon, I'm sure if you pretend that I said something I didn't you will be right in your own little world!
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/dsg/, how do I git gud?
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>>122380113
The Dark Soul is humanity.
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>>122380106
>Okay maybe one day you can come down from your high horse and explain your reasoning.
And maybe one day you will read it instead of responding the first line of any post. We both know that won't happen though, ignoring everything anyone else says in favor of pretending they never said it in the first place is a defense mechanism for your retarded ass isn't it?
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>>122380113
We´re clearly going in circles here, because every two posts you change your opinion about the dark soul being humanity or not.
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>>122380229
I did and I agree that both are different. I was just asking you why you believe turning into a monster was not a bad thing. Which you have yet to do.
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>when dark souls 2 runs better on your trash laptop (30+ fps) than it does on your ps3

kek, this shit cant even run the original dark souls at more than 10 fps
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Will we have something like the black knight invasion event in Dark Souls 3?

Now that full orbs are back.
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>>122380219
No, humanity is a FRAGMENT of the dark soul.

Do I have to tell you to google what a "fragment" is for the 4th time?

>>122380270
No we are not. You are just having difficulty grasping what a fragment is
Humanity is a fragment (read small part of) the Dark Soul, giving away some humanity (read part of the dark soul) will not make someone not human because they will still have a part of the dark soul left in them (read the part you didn't give away)
How is this difficult to understand? I don't even think you are having issues understanding it, you just refuse to admit that your keenjerk reaction was dumb.
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>>122379731
it was spreading when manus appeared, in oolacile, that became the DARKROOT(the roots of the abyss) garden.
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>>122380483
True the spread did stop for a time after the defeat of Manus
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>>122378565
This disgusts me
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>>122380325
>Which you have yet to do>>122379447
"Do you think its a good idea to prolong a lie and pretend that humans are something that they are not"

One day anon, one day.
Or are you going to say that there is nothing inherently wrong with lying and lies?
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>>122380118
play the game

think logically, analyze your opponent, predict your opponent, think about what action youre going to do before you do it and the consequence of said action

im assuming were talking about pvp
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>>122380707
if he meant pve, then lol just circle strafe/roll till you get a hit or however many is safe, rinse and repeat

>pve
>skill
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>>122380464
I think I get you now.
You think every human has a dark soul.
There´s no actual dark soul in the game, the original was split thousands of times over generations.
What makes humans human is their tiny fragment of the dark soul. We call that tiny fragment humanity.
And if you give that away you don´t have it anymore. Humans can´t split it at will, at least not the ones in Da1.
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>>122380880
Well then we are going to have to agree to disagree, humanity being the only part of the dark soul inside a human seems retarded to me but if thats your interpretation of the lore then sure.
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>>122381029
Have fun being wrong then
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>>122381029
And I think having one of the Lordsouls simply multiply itself is a pretty retarded idea.
but at least I finally understood what you tried to say for half the thread.
No offense, but you´re really shitty at bringing your point across dude.
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>>122381394
>the dark souls is a lord soul
Refer to>>122381190
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Taking requests for Souls based fanfiction.

All your arguing of lore and trolling about logic has inspired me.
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>>122381461
Well Lordsoul is just the name the game gives the 4 "big" souls in the intro, so I don´t see how that´s wrong.
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>>122381693
sieglinde's journey to lordran from catarina
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>>122381693
Lautrec going after the firekeeper souls just to heal the Darkmoon lady.
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>>122381693
Write something about how the Curved Nil Greatsword and how it links DeS and DaS1/2

After 20 correct Captchas I still have no clue as to what a patio is
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>>122381973
Either a certain chair arrangement or just chairs in general.
But a reatrded captcha for sure.
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>>122381929
>liking Lautrec over Mephistopheles
These are dark days indeed
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>>122382109
I just can´t get over the fact that he´s just supposed to be some asshole but still leaves you the orb to go after him and doesn´t use to soul for anything, just waiting for you to catch up.
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>>122381824
>so I don´t see how that´s wrong.
Good for you, ignorance is bliss
If every human is born with humanity, and more humans are born, isn't that "Lordsouls simply multiply itself"?
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>>122382223
No it´s the original soul getting split into smaller and smaller pieces.
Still powerful enough to turn dumb beasts into an somewhat intelligent race after it´s been split thousands of times, it´s gotta be a pretty powerful soul, just like the other three.
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>>122382359
>No it´s the original soul getting split into smaller and smaller pieces.
And this different from the dark souls splitting into smaller and smaller pieces and then having a part of it taken out as humanity because?
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>>122380560
we don't see any real sign of the abyss sperad in new londo, it seems that it fucked the building like it did in oolacile(making them fall and chill) but thats all, and oolacile was like in the side of new londo

>>122382109
>liking mephistoteles
wtf is this real? she is like the most asshole character of the series lol
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>>122382482
you´re the same guy that already diskussed with everybody for the whole thread right?
Because you realy can´t explain your shit.
I´m not up for another our of trying to make sense of your crap, so I´ll just not answer unless you actually manages to make some sort of coherent agrument.
If you think that somehow validates your mornoic assumptions, be my guest.
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>>122381973
there's a great site that composites dialectic patterns to tell you which cities/regions have similar speech profiles to yours. Words like patio are among them, things like names for roads, or carbonated beverages, expressions, etc.

I see how it can link DaS1/2 but how would you say it links DeS?
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>>122382820
Whatever helps you sleep at night anon, as it stands you claimed that the there can't be more of the dark soul inside a human than what is inside their humanity because
>And I think having one of the Lordsouls simply multiply itself is a pretty retarded idea.
Yet somehow more humans being born fragmenting the dark souls is an entirely different thing because reasons.

I'm not out to make a point, I out to see how far you will dig that hole in your own headcanon to justify a retarded statement.

If you can't answer a simple question then be my guest.
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>>122382998
>I see how it can link DaS1/2 but how would you say it links DeS?
>Formed by rock, tree, and the remnants of a most peculiar soul.

It's not much to go on but you can make the leap and assume its made from the soul/part of the soul of the old great one, it was made out of rock and trees and definitely had a peculiar soul.
You can just as well go
>no it wasn't
but its fanfiction.
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>>122382740
>she is like the most asshole character of the series lol
Well yeah but so is Lautrec, I just mean, she's a better asshole. If you're going to read about an asshole why not read about the best asshole, the bleached one that just won't quit clenching harder than a an obese man's arteries instead of an asshole like the opera singer who got botched surgery and farts uncontrollably when she sings.

Plus she just seems more sinister, killing everybody not just the defenseless mute girl, she a real mac daddy pimp
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>>122383286
I could give you my interpretation but it wouldn't involve DeS (DeS is my favorite game though), and I would honestly need to play through again from start to finish to get inside the first person mind since it's not really a model character driven concept, I'm temped to if just for my own sake now.
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>>122383330
lautrec is not even an asshole, he did the right thing on killing her, and plus he did it for her firelinksoul to gibe to fina, not because he want to kill everyone. also the only reason people hate lautrec is because ''muh bonfire ;-; he is so evil why he did this he only did this to annoy me >:CC''

mephistoteles just want to kill everyone because yes, you only like her because she is a woman
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>>122383530
Just do it then but don't post it here unless its really short
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What's a good build I can use in both DS1 and then straight into DS2?

I'm a total RP faggot so I want to play as the same character.

I was going to do something with Pyros but then I remembered how shit all the magics are in DS2.

Andy advice?

Mainly PvE.
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>>122383802
oh anon
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>>122383981
>I remembered how shit all the magics are in DS2
Pyromancy is still really freaking strong for pve in 2.

Have you played either game yet? They're not really games that facilitate roleplaying particularly well.
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>>122383981
>What's a good build I can use in both DS1 and then straight into DS2?

Full strength. Strength is always the best.
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>>122379589
I though Oolacile was Darkroot, how can the Chasm be below New Londo?
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>>122383981
ultra great sword

be warned, UGS are really fucking boring in DaS2
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>>122383981
>all magics
Untrue, standard sorceries are viable in both games and my first playthrough in every souls game has been standard intel, plus even occult exists in both games (though you'd need str to utilize it properly in DaS.

Basically anything you want to do is viable, DaS2 has even more viable options actually, so just do what you like, there are ways to make it work. except if you like fist weapons

>>122383949
I will and it won't be lol, but if I get to that part before my interests wanes I'll post the ending relevant portion
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>>122384409
yes, oolacile is darkroot, but darkroot is very close to new londo.
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>>122384595
Is there a map of Lordran of something? I know all areas are somewhat interconnected, but i'm bad at geography
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is DS1 multiplayer dead?
>couldnt get a single sign in burg
>couldnt get a sign in parish
>PC
ive even tried switching between the steam patch and the origional
whats the deal
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>>122384960
Hold tight, my friend. DaS3 is there with full orbs to save us. There will be plenty of sales after its launch so we can fight between helping and destroying newbies.

The good times will be back.
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>>122384960

How long did you try? If you have the beta build enabled on Steam, disable it. The online is alive and well considering the game's age.
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dark souls needs more rapiers, as much as i like Ricard's its guard is ugly as fuck.
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>>122383981
>Mainly PvE.
Use magic like the scrub you are.
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>>122385242
Rapiers look cool but are boring. Fact: Only fun weapons to use in pvp are ugs, greathammers and greataxes.

Everything else is poking or mashing R1 2 win.
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>>122385213
disable the steam beta?
i tried burg wednesday for about 20 mins because it took me a few tries to get one of the black knights and ive been at the normal spot in the parish back and forth for about 30 mins so far clearing the area and trying the gargs but dying. im a little rusty havent played in ages.
SL 21 right now so that should be fine for parish
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Why are all the bad guys in Souls series so easy to spot the moment they open their mouths? When I saw Lautrec and talked to him I thought that this guy sounds pretty sinister, but I also thought that they wouldn't be so obvious and the devs are trying to trick me into killing some good dude.
When I picked up DeS and got to Yurt I immediately knew what was up with him.
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New DaS3 info when?
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>>122384791

there is a 3d program,look at this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGQ86Aet_7M

>>122385242
its ok.
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>>122385417
>hurr durr me smash

you are a brute and a barbarian
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>>122385551
Look dude I like rapiers as much as you but they just aren't fun to play with.
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I just installed half of SotFS, decided against it mid install and deleted everything, then realized I'm bored and started the install again.
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>>122385483
>disable the steam beta?

Yes. 20-30 minutes might not be enough to get your IP pool going on PC. There's a mod (pvp watchdog) that shows the size of your IP pool.
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>>122385657

I agree with you about the rapiers but you must've grown up with jrpg final fantasy junk if you think fuckhuge weapons are cool or fun.
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>>122385725
play some other games holy shit
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>>122385547
Nice, thanks

>>122385510
Japanese are predictable
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>>122385874
ok
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>>122386009
inb4 "le i cant go back to other games after playing souls" meme
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>>122385657
i think its fun the ricard r2.

>>122385510
>who is petrus
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>>122384960
the matchmaking is just shit, idle ingame for an hour or so and your pool of players will grow

I just made a new character SL60 and have constant PvP in anor londo and painted world, DaS1 is very active
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>>122386260
yeah, i had actually never suspected Petrus. was pretty surprising when he was the bad guy.
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>>122386367
What about PS3 version?
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deprived or sorc for a spellcaster in 2? is it worth getting hexes on NG?
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>beat Elana first try on NG+, on NG took me close to 10
>took me close to 10 to beat Sinh on NG+ when I beat him 2nd try on NG
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How many hours till ds3 again
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>tfw i will never play Demon's or BB
A-at least i'm mustard race r-right guys
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>>122386580
>PC babitten will never EVER get to play the master piece that started it all and is still regarded as the best Souls game
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>>122386580
Both are worse than DS1 and 2

Seriously, you're not missing much

Go make friends and play them at their houses you shit lord
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>>122386567
wan mirrion

>>122386580
PS3's are already cheap, theyll probably be even cheaper this coming black friday and christmas. as for Bloodborne well...I dont think youre missing out on anything.
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>>122386431
don't know

I imagine there will always be foresters and burgh pvp on any format though, particularly weekends
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>>122386701
>DS2 better that DeS
Spotted the reddit PvP le hardcore gamer praise the sun memer.
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>>122386826
Spotted the autist that cant handle opinions of others without their world collapsing

>>>/v/
>>
In almost all movie series the 3rd one ends up being the worst received. The first or the second is the best. This is true for Alien, Terminator, Matrix, Lord of the Rings, Star Wars.

If we apply this to Souls games it's either the upcoming game or 2 if you consider DeS the first. BB is sufficiently different to not be included. 4th in the series are also pretty bad so it doesn't really matter.
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>>122386552
>Beat Kalameet on first try with my STR character
>Die 6 times with my DEX character
Shouldn't it be easier
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>>122386580
The other day I dreamed I was playing Demon's Souls. It was so cool, the graphics were terrible and everything was clunky but everything felt so right.

I might play Demon's Souls someday if I ever get out of this financial hole, but BB I just gave up on ever playing.
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>>122386867
This is why we need a Miyazaki general instead of Souls general.
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>>122386580
Played BB around a friends. Looks amazing but doesn't have the same gripping gameplay as the Souls games tee-bee-h.
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>>122386964
DEX is always harder. I made the mistake of trying out dex while doing the PPtD DLC the first time

FUCK MANUS

FUCK HIM
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>>122387052

And that's how DS3 will be as well. I'm pretty sure 1 is lightning in a bottle and even the devs have no idea how they did it.
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>>122387120
I believe in Miyazaki

Even though I will never be able to play it, I know in my heart he could never disappoint the fans.
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>>122386943
I mean technically, Return of the Jedi is the third one and that wasnt bad.
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>>122387063
I dunno man, every other boss was way easier with a BSS. I wrecked Artorias and even defeated Gwyn with no parry.
>>
GAME HARD
AAHAHHAHAHA

WHO BEST AT VRIDEO GRAME

CIRCLEJERK

JERK JER KJERK JERK JEKR JEKR JERK JERK JERK

I AM THE BEST PLAYER

ORGASM
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>>122387120
Yeah I'm never expecting anything to top the first game, the studio and Souls brand is just too big now to spawn a game that creative and attentively designed. The PvP in 3 looks fun though, 4v2 gives a lot of potential for chaos.
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>>122387254
>longsword moveset
>dex scaling

what more could you want in a weapon
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>>122387013
Dammit guys my roommates are retarded
They went out and got drunk last night then brought people they met at the bar back to our apartment
And then i understand they LEFT THE APARTMENT WHILE THE STRANGERS WERE STILL THERE! So basically one of them stole my ps4 which had my copy of bloodborne in it and my copy of SotFS which was next to it. And the controller. So like ~$500 of stuff.

The only consolation i have is one of said roommates lost his xbox one, ipad, and phone, but but it doesnt make me feel much better
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>>122387428
get good
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>>122386701
>ds2 better than anything
you make me sick.

>>122387013
this

>>122387052
yea, it's much better than ds2 of course, but it still don't feels the same as des and das1.
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>>122387223

Dark Souls 2 isn't bad either. It's just no 1.
And Jedi is pretty bad outside of the part with Vader, Luke and the Emperor.
The part with those fucking furries in the jungle is horrible.
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>>122387431
>>122387184

It's still gonna be better than most games out there so yeah it'll be fun.
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>>122387812
cant be any worse than the prequels, nothing good comes to mind when i think of the prequels.
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>>122387184
Miyazaki is a dog with one trick, DS3 will be bloodborne with shields.
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>>122387523

>normies
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>>122387737
DaS2 is only better than DaS1.
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>he uses shields
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Daily reminder.
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>>122388031
>a dog with one trick

anon we have a saying for that, its "one trick pony"
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>>122388489
But he was talking about a dog, not a pony
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>>122388481
i dont uh, what am i suppose to be gathering here
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>>122388481
These are the same people who are saying that DaS is better than DaS2.
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>>122388650
one trick pony is a real saying that means the same thing, it also sounds better than "a dog with one trick"
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I need something to fill the gap for 4 months that isn't oolacile township

lords of the fallen or witcher 2/3?
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>>122388481
Nostalgia googles also existed in 2012
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>>122388481
>characters
>bosses
>mood
>lore and mythology
>online experience

>all much better
he's right you know
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>>122388768
A pony is not a dog though
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>>122388418
I know you're baiting and what not, but really, there is no difference between rolling and blocking.

Blocking
>press button to negate damage, consumes stamina

Rolling
>press button to negate damage, consumes stamina and moves you somewhere else

I honestly don't understand why people think one or the other takes any sort of skill or sentience to use.
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>>122388885
yes, and?
>>
How much is the souls series influenced by castlevania and ghosts'n goblins?
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guys the files of das1 textures don't show the preview to me and i have to open one by one, anyone know what can i do? this sucks.

>>122388316
ds2 is literally worst in EVERY aspect
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>>122388971
What more do i have to explain?
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So what are you worried about in DaS3, really? To me, the world design, creature design, armour and weapons, for example, look good. I'm only little worried about the dumbed down combat. You, Anons?
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>>122388952
You don't need to time your blocks and you don't have to worry about lingering hitboxes.
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>>122388952

Blocking is still a safer option, I think. Just incase you run into one of those really laggy players that can magically punish every single one of your rolls.
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>>122389134
>what is guard breaking
>>
anyone around sl 30 want to help out with quelaag on pc?
im at the bonfire before her
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>>122388952
Rolling requires timing and positioning blocking is just putting a shield up and making sure your facing the enemy
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>>122389013
Except that little thing called gameplay.
Don't be a dasdreck buddey.
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>>122389205
>implying anyone with a brain will get hit by that slow ass slap

Like begging to be punished.
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>>122388870
>bosses
Yes, DeS bosses are so much better.
Phalanx, Dragon God, Fool's Idol, Adjudicator, Storm King, Leechmonger, Dirty Colossus and Maiden of Astrea all excellent and very fun boss fights.
>online experience
I don't even know what to say here.
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>>122388870
he is a nostalgia fag.

DeS aged like shit, DaS aged gracefully. I can't replay DeS with out having my eyes bleeding of the awful textures, framerate and combat.

DeS is in fact the worst of the 4.

But MUH nostalgia, MUH PS3 exclusive blinds you kucks
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>>122389089
Complexity always sounds nice in theory, but in practice what it leads to is a more predictable pattern. This does not follow any logic, but this is simply how humans are.

Adding a more simpler method of doing things, while giving those things a higher impact, I believe, is the right approach.

DS3 will be the best in the series I think, but the world must hold weight to it. All of the elements of the environment must come down and grip you in such a way that each area of the game feels unique, and has a presence. This was the issue in DS2 that stopped it from being a good game.

Difficulty is a very worthless concept in the souls series and always has been, as the only people who have difficulty are fools. The entire essence of the game is about your relativity to the world, and when you're playing online, as you should be, the true game emerges. They were designed with this in mind.
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>>122389041
youre saying dumb shit when sayings already exist for them
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>>122389089
Well, I already know they're going to completely butcher STR weapons, so there's that. Adding on to that, I eagerly await FROM to fuck up again with STR weapon designs. Why is it that they can't make a great hammer without resorting to some stupidly unwieldy piece of bone, wood, or slab giant slab of metal? I don't think it's too unreasonable to make a great hammer or great axe that looks like it can be used by human beans.
>>
Is there something similar to Moonlight Bfly Horn in 2?
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>>122389510
Oh, so you're from the saying police? Sorry, officer!
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>>122389285
>gameplay is better meme
no senpai, just accept that adp and agl ruined the gameplay.

>inb4 b-but you rolled to early!!!
this only makes the gameplay inferior because this is retarded
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>>122389591
im just making your life easier
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>>122389647
We have to fight Orstein again on DaS2?
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>>122388952
Parry fishing small shield user detected
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>>122389818
ye
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>>122389464
>Complexity always sounds nice in theory, but in practice what it leads to is a more predictable pattern. This does not follow any logic, but this is simply how humans are.

What I was thinking of when I wrote that was the speeded up hyper armour focused combat. For PvE, poise was one of the best improvements from DeS in my opinion. In addition to the damage you do, you can also mind the poise damage you do to trigger the stagger. With hyper armour you just stand back until the enemy's infinite poise goes away.
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>>122389882
Why
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>>122389647
huehuehue
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>>122389089
>dumbed down combat

I think they've made melee combat actually viable. Actual parries and backstabs not blind or carried with lag.

My main worry will be my biggest frustration with DaS2, being "difficult" for the sake of it. Getting ambushed every five minutes isn't fun, nor is the hardest aspect of a boss being the minions distracting you. The bosses in AotA DLC are my favourites in any game ever, all so well designed and none of the artificial shit thrown in.
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>>122389647
So how's playing DaS with like the same 3 people? Highspeed hornetstabs in the forest amirite???
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>>122389647
What the fuck why is this game so bad? Did the "Prepare to Die" meme really call for bullshit hitboxes like this? And to think that DaS2babbs just lap it up.
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>>122389647
>>122389964
And so the shitposting begins anew
>AGL ruined everything
>ITS A RARE BUG
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>>122387428
Getting your shit pushed in?
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>>122389818
no, it's a optional boss, and there is literally no reason for him to be in the game other than fan service. nothing in the game even mentions him or why would he be there.

>>122389964
1 glitched boss that you have to fight once vs the entire game
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I love this talk of hitboxes
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>>122387524
>>122390106
I was mocking the fans that ruined this series
You are male gamer girls
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>>122390000
well memed
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>>122389647

AGI just takes that "you get better not your character" concept and ruins it.
If they want to make a better game they should focus on removing other things like that from the game instead of adding more.
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>>122389956
remember Dark Souls 1? B-Team remembers.
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>>122390142
He is there because he is a lord of flame
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>>122390182
How did they made the sentinels look so heavy. When moving, they look like they weight a ton each.
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>>122390186
Not funny enough to be understood as satire. I bet you're the autistic one in your group of friends.
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>>122390220

Gargoyles are notoriously shitty. Spells go through them as well when they fly. But they seem to be the exception not the rule in that game.
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>>122389964
clever
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>>122390000
because bandai namco. they think das is just a edgy game that people play to get angry, so they made the game shit and bugged, and annoying on purpose.

>>122390182
are you retarded? you think nothing would happen in real life if you stand next to the shield?
if this were ds2 you would had died in 1 hit instead of gettting partial damage

>>122390220
notice how the character got hit 1 billion times and took no damage because adp

>>122390293
>ds2 ''lore''
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>>122390293
Makes no sense
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>>122389973
The issue with DS2 was that their choice for balancing out the circlestrafe and backstab fishing that the combat in DS1 turned into was to just make almost ever encounter have more than one enemy so that you could't just circlestrafe all day, or by making enemies spin on axis.

Sadly enough combined with the impenetrable nonsense that was Poise and not telling anyone about how iframes and ADP worked gave people a really bad first impression that the game will carry with it until the end of time
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Friendly reminder that 4skins is the worst and most hated Souls "boss" in /dsg/ and thus can go fuck themselves in hell forever.
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>>122390302
The camera
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>>122390302
slow attacks and environment vibration I guess

I've only fought like 3 of them spanning every playthrough, such a hassle
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>>122389271
While I understand that people who just turtle behind their shields are even more inane than the usual shitter, it's not as if blocking doesn't require timing as well if used by someone with half a brain cell who knows of the various ways to punish somebody who hides behind a shield. When playing DS1 I tended to use a combination of blocking and rolling depending on the situation rather than favoring one over the other. This rhetoric of "shields are shit, rolling takes skill" is completely false and needs to stop.

although shields are shit in DS2 which is why nobody uses them except for parrying

>>122389870
I actually hate the small shield parry animation. It looks retarded and it takes so long to play out. I prefer medium shield parries to be honest and they feel more satisfying to achieve. Pic related best looking shield in the game
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>>122390182
That's literally a shock wave. He's not even taking full damage and it makes sense.
Getting hit by a sword that doesn't even touch you doesn't though.
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I don't like the way 3 looks. I want them to bring back that wet shiny look of castle walls they had in 1.
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>>122390142
Actually in DaS2 the glitches happened exactly once for each webm, while in DaS1 it happens all the time.
;^)
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Souls 2 armor sets are all fucking ugly
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>>122390401
I like how you keep posting that webm every time as if it has anything to do with ADP.
How many times to people have to call you out on it, all the rolls there would have saved him just as well if he had 85 Agi or 130, it wouldn't have mattered.

This webm has NOTHING to do with ADP or agility shit he only rolls in it 4 times out of the 9 times he gets attacked, ADP does not give you iframes on attack animations with a sword.
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>>122390639
>(you)
Although I was disappointed with the faraam set
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>>122390510

You shouldn't bother replying to him, that webm makes me think he didn't even play the game. His posting is Four Kings spam tier.
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>>122390476
Who the fuck is still playing DaS lmao
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>>122390608
Smough obviously fell on him as he was dying, where the issue?
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>>122390608
>lobos face

How can one person be so adorable
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muh hitboxes
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>>122390448
>full havels, FAP, best weapon
>R1, occasional heal if he uses AoE

i'm shit at dark souls and walked through kings, why the fuck are they mentioned so much?
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why dont we accept that ds2 is the worst game ever released and stop fighting?

>>122390608
happens once because they die
also there is no bug in that webm, smough do that all the time since ever if you stay under his body
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>>122390864
I hope he was prepared to die. :D
Haha this game is so brutal!
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attack squares.
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I want there to be more customization in dark souls 3 like changing the colour of armor
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>>122390859
because Pinwheel is literally more hard, fun and challenging than this retarded abortion of a boss.
>>
>>122391027
muh lore
muh everything is the way it is for a reason
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>>122390864
And it all boils down to the fact you couldn't adapt to a RES stat thats useful and that rolling early gets punished.
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Okay someone that has video game dev experience explain why this looks so weird (ie shitty) to me. I promise I'm not trying to be edgy or bait people.
Something about this looks weird to me. I love the armor, I like the architecture, the menu looks deliciously simple but the photography (for lack of a better word) of it looks weird. Like the entire world has global lighting cranked up too high or something. The scene looks cartoony. It doesn't look grimy or real. The lighting is diffuse or something. I can't put my finger on it but I don't like it.
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10/10
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ds2 drones will defend this

des/ds1/ds3 general when

>>122391121
>if you show webms of how shit this game is, it means that YOU is bad at it.
ok das2drone, this fucking game have the worst npcs of any game i ever finished, even skyrim had better npcs, this is not even the worst thing about this game.
>>
>got 99 twinkling and realize it's almost useless
>still need more dragon bone
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>>122391182

I remember that spot. It might have something to do with unlocked fps.
>>
>>122390864

I really wish PtDE didn't come out so you autists would have no place in this general. DaS1 is literally a huge downgrade from DeS but it's a shame you never got to play it :^)
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>>122391182
Great Hollow is for inexplicably falling down anon, nobody said you could go up
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>>122391042
>Pinwheel
>Hard
>Low HP and frail as hell
>You can summon Leeroy
Kings are easy, but no way easier than Pinwheel
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>>122391182
artificial difficulty
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>>122391323
>DaS1 is literally a huge downgrade from DeS
Sure memer.
>>
>>122391182
disable 60fps with a hotkey, f6 i think
>use mods to play in a way you shouldnt
>complain

>>122391323
i played des you retard, go back to your shitty ds2 hitboxes
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>do BoB duels
>get my ass handed too me every time
>do dragon sign duels in iron keep
>win more than loses
>mfw

Are IK people just bad or something? I didn't think it was possible to be worse than me.
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>>122385510
Oswald
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>>122391398

No you didn't lol, you don't even own a PS3. PtDE was your first game, and it ruined the Souls fanbase for good.
>>
>>122391476

I guess the people fighting at the arena are higher level. Dragon signs match with SM.
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>>122391164
mat_fullbright in short, google it
If you want the long answer then actual lighting is usually the first thing to get the axe when it comes to things to cut to improve in other fields. It's very CPU intensive and for some reason it is held that people wont notice it, so it gets cut and instead you get higher quality textures and more complex geometry.
More complex geometry is also tied into this, the more non squared rooms you have the harder it would be to have decent lighting, so cutting it is even easier to justify.
>>
Has anybody actually experienced Gravelord Servants?

Looks a cool concept but from playing on launch and over a thousand hours on PC I've never been cursed
>>
>>122391339
And nevertheless, 4cunts is just a failed attempt at a filler with no lore, retarded DPS mechanics made to cheese the fuck out, shit music, terrible arena and faggot design of the "boss" itself. It's literally "What the Fuck this Shit Has To Do With The Plot: The Fight".
>>
>>122391562
stop being so retarded its cringey
>you didn't played des because you posted webms on how ds2 is shit
all right nice delusion
>>
>>122391476
BoB matches you with everyone in the same NG cycle, a level 20 twink can go up against a level 400 for all it cares, dragon stones use the normal SM tiers.
>>
>>122391593
playing the PC version is a curse in itself
>>
We were so united. I hate that DaS2 divided the fanbase so much. My only hope is DaS3 unites us again and we can have fun events.
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>>122391593

The black phantom enemies only appear in NG+ and onwards. Gravelords exist, but they're very rare.
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>>122391323
>you are only allowed to own 1 platform

okie dokie
>>
>>122385510
lautrec isn't even particularly bad, i'm sure you killed off the knightess once you realised she's useless

there isn't really a good or evil in the souls games, everything is morally ambiguous. so many bosses it makes no sense for you to logically kill but you do it anyway
>>
>>122391182
That FUCKING FUCK of a ledge I died on that thing at least 2 times fuck.

>>122391398
>disable 60fps
Not related to being 60fps, just a shitty piece of geometry. Pic related, another example of shitty geometry.
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>>122391398
This happens without mods.
DeS had climbing to avoid that shit, but muhyazaki lost his mind in later games.
>>
>>122391586
>mat_fullbright

So it is a type of global illumination just as I suspected. I notice the character aura light is also gone in 3. So they basically removed the dynamic lighting and replaced with this in order to get prettier textures and more polygons that will all look like shit because of the way they are lit.
>>
>>122391240
Still can't adapt to the fact that grab you even if the clip you?
14 year olds are amazing, you think that reality would bend itself just to dick you over rather than calm your seething nerdboner for 2 seconds and consider that the computer does what its programmed to do every time and its up to you to adapt to it.
>>
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>>122391776
>>122391574
Oh right, I didn't realise that. Thanks.
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>>122391950
>so many bosses it makes no sense for you to logically kill but you do it anyway
4shits though is a definite must.
>>
>>122391593
there's a CE table that can make your character gravelorded, even on ng
i used it, p fun
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Why do people still play DaS2 and not SotFS
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>>122391974
I always die on the way back, there. Didn't know it was a glitch.
>>
>>122391703

Why are you so attached to a shitty downgrade of Demon's Souls? Do you enjoy playing through unfinished content? Do you enjoy shitty lackluster bosses that don't even change throughout the fight? Shittier atmosphere? Shittier characters? Shittier lore? You like all this because PtDE was your first Souls game? Kill yourself my man.
>>
>>122392105
no money ;_;
>>
You better stay away from slopes guys or else miyazai touches you with his vision of good gameplay!
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>>122392105
Well the upgrade is kind of a shit deal if you bought the base game and then all the DLC separately
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all i want is a place to talk about des and das1 only without ds2 lorefags shitting everything saying i am wrong because nashandra or vendrick did this or that or talking on how skeleton lords and congregation are good bosses

>>122392141
i only had 2 good moments in my 100 hours of ds2. I'm not attached to it.
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>>122392254
>backstab fisher got what he deserved
I can feel the miyazaki touch
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So which Souls boss is hated and always gets shat on in /dsg/ the most? You all must know the answer.
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>>122392254
>this horrible, ugly and unoptimized build
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>>122392105
All my characters are on 2
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>>122392210
Why are you so shit? You ruined the whole player base.
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>>122392349
>skeleton lords
>bad boss
Now you take that back anon.
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>>122392349
You can never go wrong with skeletons
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>>122392446
Pls buy me it and I'll play it with you desu
>>
>>122392349

I want an alternate reality where PtDE was never released.
>>
>>122392498
it's literally catacumbs:the boss kek

3 necromancers and a lot of skeletons at the same time

the only thing it lacked was having a black knight and a prowling demon
>>
>>122392397
>hornet chaos rapier havelchild won
truly balanced
>>
NEW

>>122392738
>>122392738
>>122392738
>>122392738

NEW
>>
>>122392130
It's not really a glitch, it's just poorly modeled level geometry. That small section of branch is more of a wedge than flat. If you run across it you're fine but if you walk you'll slide down the side.

>>122391182
This chunk is passable but you need to jump in a really weird specific way and it's not an area that is safe to practice weird specific jumps.
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>>122392407
imagine a world where giantdads, moms, havelmoms, and flipping havels never existed

paradise.
>>
>tfw still no viable whip build in DaS3
>>
>>122392684
>skeleton lords
>necromancer
Did you by any chance play either game?

Because the only thing they have in commons is the fact that there are skeleton enemies, the DEFINING trait of necromancers is that they bring skeletons back to life, the skeleton lords don't do that.
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Anyone else having trouble with this guy? From what I've gathered people consider shit like Vendrick, Giant Lord and Smelter Demon hard. I manage to kill these guys without even getting scratched but this fucking frog makes me so mad.

If I walk in front to hit his face he swings his arms around and either takes half of my hp or drains all my stamina. I have literally no idea how to beat this guy by myself
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>>122393270
stay at medium distance and wait until he does one of his attacks which leave him open for 2-3 swings. Repeat until he dies.
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>>122393270
Walk close to him, wait for him to start exposing his face, walk back to medium ish range, wait for an attack, either roll out of it or just run past its range, walk up to him, hit him until he brings his arms back inside, repeat till he dies
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