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/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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Hidden Items Edition

Hollowed: >>121988157

>DARK SOULS 3
>Gameplay Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XwhYVzN_a0
http://www.gamersyde.com/hqstream_dark_souls_iii_gc_gameplay_reveal-35231_en.html
>Announcement Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RAlGv-IW4g
>Screenshots & Artwork
Official: https://imgur.com/a/GUjb3
Leaked: https://imgur.com/a/c08Bb
New screenshots & artwork: http://imgur.com/a/5fhcQ
>Interviews
http://pastebin.com/PUSbw02s
>Gameplay
http://pastebin.com/yWzzuVV1

>/dsg/ Player List
http://pastebin.com/9hG50KHX
>/dsg/ Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/DarkSoulsGeneral
>Draw
http://doodleordie.com/r/darksouls
http://imgur.com/a/wwtuf
http://flockmod.com/dsg


>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/h1etMh8E

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v
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>>122107090
>>122107991
Responder por favor
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>Gwyn looks better as cinder than you do alive
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>>122108685
are you a skeleton?
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>every fragment of Gwyn's soul that he had given to his allies before linking the fire is now reborn as a boss in DaS3
>one of the fragments was given to the Four Kings
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Xth for "when is FROM going to redistribute the skinned weapons in softs?"
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gwyndolin
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>>122109054
THIS
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>>122109054
Thats what you get, SofTraitors, for buying your jewgrab game! Ha-ha!
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>>122108568
>Restores 15 HP per second
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>>122109269
>darklurker
>in the deepest abyss
>and from his soul
>LIFEDRAIN patch
and the art 4kings were known for, passed down from kaathe, is?
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All these armors in Dark Souls 2 and they all look like shit.
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>>122109589
Do not respond to the autistic samefag shitposter. Unless you are the autistic samefag shitposter, in which case well played.
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>>122109803
why would i conflict my own posts?
>>122109917
you didn’t answer my question, 4faggot
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Never played DS2. Did anything plot wise happen? Because DS3 seems more a sequel to 1 than a sequel to 2.
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>>122110149
Things happened, it sucked, pretend it didn't happen.
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>>122109708
Your face looks like shit, you shitface.
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>>122110149
After the Chosen Undead defeats Manus, Manus' soul / being splinters off into fragments, full of Manus' negative emotions. These fragments formed into the shape of women, and their only instinct was to be drawn to the nearest source of power, being the Kings in the land. The four fragments wed each King and attempted to steal their power and overthrow them. All but one had succeeded, whose King was so bold and charismatic, that she actually felt an infatuation for him, and gave up her lust for power.
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>>122110403
Like an avocado had sex with an older avocado.
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>>122110395
how about you learn to zip it when you get btfo
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>>122110346

Is this how your parents reacted to you?
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>>122110670
>gets banned for the post
>posts the exact same thing again and gets banned AGAIN
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>Sen's Fortress
>Active the cage elevator from the end back to the beginning
>Something catches my eye
>Something red and black down on that balcony where there's an item corpse hanging from
>Is that an invader? I didn't see any message
>It looks kind of flat is it a frogray? What the fuck would one of those be doing there?
>OH SHIT IT'S A VAGRANT
>FUCK HOW DO I GET OVER THERE
>DO I HAVE TO DROP DOWN TO THIS PLATFORM?
>Drop down to platform with snake bitches on it
>Get lightninged in the asshole
>Vagrant is gone when I respawn
FUCK
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Anybody want to do a Dark Souls 1 co-op run?
I have to rebuild my latest character because of a stat investment fuckup.
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>>122110921
Nah.
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What is the point of this shield?
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>>122111269

Son, I have some news for you...
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>>122111332
Okay. What is it?
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>>122111307
It looks like a pig, that's all the point it needs.
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>>122111163
level
platform

come on
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>>122111006
im pretty sure that’s where the chunk or large shard is, a bit after the boulder mechanism
>>122111383
how do you think i get this perfect silky complexion?
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Are those weapon tier lists just things to get new players to use shitter weapons in pvp? Because I've been using them and it's working
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>>122111392
Things happened, it sucked, pretend it didn't happen.
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>>122111693
Alright.
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>>122111831
What is the point of you being alive?
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>>122110149
>DS3 seems more a sequel to 1 than a sequel to 2

How could you know that if you haven't played 2?
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I'm liking this shield and sword. Can't say much for the torso and leggings.
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>>122112272
>Can't say much for the torso and leggings.

They're not bad as far as typical Dark Souls tattered armor designs go.
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>>122112272
Looks like a manlet
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If I summon NPCs and then black crystal them can I fight the boss buffed? Do I have to send them away after entering the fog or can I do it before (if it works at all)?
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oh man, can't wait to be an asshole in das3
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>>122112673
he isn't, in the demo he's hella huge. youre the only manlet here. you as in you in the game
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>>122113197
Kings of manlets
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>install DSFix
>nothing's changed
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>>122113502
DSfix made my game not run like shit.
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>>122113573
Teach me master.
I had it installed before, and it fixed my game, but now I have massive frame dips and stuttering. I can't pvp like this, I keep running into shit.
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>>122113687
All I did was Install it. Set it to my retarded native resolution, "unlocked the frame rate" and capped it at 35, and disabled the in game AA
It just werks I guess. Before I had almost constant frame dip. Now It pretty much never happens.
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>>122113945
Okay, I changed my native resolution to match my game's resolution because every other resolution is blurry and shitty. Now everything's sharp as fuck. I set the FPS limit to 35 as you said, and now everything's looking good. Thank you, anon.
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>>122113062
True assholes use Acid Surge.
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>>122114892
At least you fought them in the abyss which was interesting. Prowling Magus and Congreation was just in a dumb church in a dumb spider village
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>>122115147
At what level do people even fight the kings usually?
I never managed to have to fight 2 kings at once, at worst i didn't check my health and ran into an AOE or grab
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>>122115147
>actively responding to bait
smdh tbqh
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>>122114820
then lets hope we get some fun, non-cheesy spells that are actually usable.
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>>122115376
>At what level do people even fight the kings usually?
1+
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>Invade Sens
>Host is with summon on the merchant's side of the broken bridge
>Wait them out until the summon tries to come at me while the host stay back and takes pot shots with arrows
>Kick summon off the bridge
>Jump at host
>Back stab him off the bridge to his death
Fuck DaS1 has been good fun the past couple days I miss when this game was alive
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So if I kill Manus and save Dusk, will her summon sign come back at the Darkroot Lake?
I forgot to get Proper Bow.
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>>122093438
>Dancer of the Frigid Valley
>that big armored turtle-dog knight
>Lord of Cinder
>3 bosses who are dudes in armor
What a good start, B-team.
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>>122117002
I haven't been paying attention to anything DaS3, pls no ;_;
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>>122117002
>turtle frost boss
>a dude
thats not a human silly billy also

>ds2 is spoiling every new release from fromsoft because they dont want to be dissapointed again

this is fucking dumb
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Starting DaS NG character right meow. Only played as a Pyro for a bit years ago. Suggestions?
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>>122117307
>thats not a human silly billy
Looking Glass Knight wasn't human either.
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>>122115376
depends. when on a normal run, i deal with them after anor londo, as expected.

on an invasion build, as soon as i heavy a good elemental weapon and a heavy armor to be done with this shit fight
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>>122117409
well he also doesn't move like a human
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Is everyone replaying DaS now or what?
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>>122118006
did you mean des? because people haven’t stopped playing ds1
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>record Souls for jewtube
>look at footage
>big fucking watermark
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>>122118513
i too feel like ppl talking way more about it lately
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The real problem with the dudes in armor (apart from how many of them there was) is that they all had the same movesets and boring designs.

Even the best of them like Alonne look really boring compared to something as distinct as Artorias and Gwyn.

The dancer boss from DS3 looked pretty interesting as far as I could tell.
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>>122118682
it comes and goes. there are quite a bit of posts normally, but periodically the shitposting is so loud it overshadows anything
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>>122118960
Shit posting truly should be a bannable offense
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http://mmdks.com/7rl4

Got 100k souls what should I spend them on?
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>>122118720
These are the warrior/knight bosses in Dark Souls 2, with some things outside of Matthewmatosis claimed three types of attacks:
1. Old Dragonslayer (dark magic drop, projectile, AoE, impale grab)
2. Giant Lord (foot stomp, horizontal slash, slashing sword at his own feet)
3. Smelter Demon (AoE, core flame, buffs, leap attack, and first Souls boss to have all of his attacks able to be executed at varying speeds - tricking up players timing).
4. Pursuer (unique impale causing curse, unique dark orb attack, projectile attack, shield bash, etc.)
5. Throne Watcher and Defender (Watcher has projectile attack + AoE + leap attack, Defender has shield bash + unique impale attack, both can cast healing miracle, both can buff mid fight, etc.)
6. Velstadt (kick attack, unique dark magic attack, unique buff, a strafing-counter attack, and a four hit combo)
7. Vendrick (unique projectile cursing attack, leap attack)
8. Dragonrider (shield bash)
9. Looking Glass Knight (three unique lightning attacks, leap attack, multiple 4-5 hit combos, shield summon, shield bash, strafing counter-attack)
10. The Lost Sinner (can parry, can backstab, unique leap attacks, 4 hit combos)
11. Ruin Sentinels (shield throw, 360 spin, several unique leap attacks)
12. Flexile Sentry (2-3 unique grab animations, 4 hit combos, spin attack, the unique scenario of having a dual torso both dual wielding different weapons)
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Does the Server's R2 hit through shields like the Shotel? Its seems to do regular damage when I do so, and the end of the blade is curved, so I was just wondering.
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>>122118720
The dancer does have moves specially so you don't just sit on his ass the entire time. Like when he plunges the sword into the ground and stirs its back behind him. It also looked a lot harder to stay close to him when he uses two swords.
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>>122119541
>him
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>>122117381
I rolled a knight with the witch's ring /dsg/.
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>>122120253
Care to post the picture you used to roll?
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>>122120253
Gotta go sweettalk the Fair Lady, save Solaire and skip most part of a shitty area then.
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>>122119541
>he
>him
>his
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>>122119373
vitality
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>hit host for chip hp
>their PW kills them
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>>122120475
don't have one. think it was savage/pyro?
>>122120827
mmk. need to get out of this here dungeon first.
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Rolling
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>>122122119
rollin'
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>>122122119
>Cleric
>Whips
>Miracles
>Darkwraith or Forest Hunter
>Divine Blessing
Seem unique, what's the fastest way to get a whip?
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>>122122119
>>122122515

You got a Belmont build
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>>122122640
Jesus I didn't even realize it, even got the fucking holy water
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>>122122740
>>122122515
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/whips
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>>122122515
use backdoor entrance to blightshit, get the regular whip
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Rate my fashion
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>>122123114
righteouscleric/10
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Who is the best Belmont to fit the Dark Souls world/build?

>>122123097
It's gonna take a bit longer than that, no master key so I'll have to go through the elevator in the forest
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>le guys in armor maymay

Demon Souls had almost 50% humanoid bosses, you dense faggots.

It was always a part of the Souls games and they are usually the best fights, due to the gameplay.

I take 20 armored dudes over 1 uninspired giant spider boss.
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>>122123243
Many of them work. You could also do Alucard if you felt like it. Longsword with Judgement set, maybe
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>>122123453
I'm just asking because I've never actually played a Castlevania
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>>122123243
>It's gonna take a bit longer than that, no master key so I'll have to go through the elevator in the forest
not really. unless youre a bit rusty, it shouldnt take too long to rush to andre and from there into the valley.
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>>122123510
No biggie. You could just watch AVGN's vids to get a peek into the oldest ones, before Symphony of the Night, which started the 'metroidvania' game type. They're all heroic, and fight against evil, and they make sure to kill the evil. Simon's the most well known Belmont aside from Dracula himself, although he has seven or so different designs.

In keeping with Castlevania classic, your whip is shit, and you'll be using items/miracles for your real damage
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>>122121392
Passed the first boss. Just got to Firelink. Don't remember anything about this game. On my way to the giant crow, I found a nest with talking eggs wtf. Do I need to find it's parents or something?
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>>122124794
>On my way to the giant crow, I found a nest with talking eggs wtf. Do I need to find it's parents or something?
thats kind of hilarious.
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>>122124605
Just looking at the wiki I was gonna go with Leon because he seems to have a plethora of items to pick from only problem I'm having is choosing the correct Dark Souls attire to fit

http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Leon_Belmont

>>122124794
>>122124919
Fucking amazing
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I hear from made otogi.
Has anybody here played it?
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Anyone mind dropping Sif's soul for me on PC? I'm SL111 and need it to finish the Knight's Honor achievement without going NG++
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>>122125042
maybe Black leather boots, Elite knight gauntlets. Not sure about chestpiece
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>>122123382
And I take 1 uninspired spider bosses over 20 armored dudes. We've been over this, it's not that they're humanoid, but that they're all samey and boring. Velstadt, Pursuers, Fume Knight, Dragonslayers, Alonne, Smelter Demon all might as well be the same guy as far as I remember. They all mush together as just big guys in armor.

Compare those to the humanoid bosses in the previous games and notice how all of those have memorable characteristics that make them stand out between all the others.
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>>122125194
If you're going to get the soul illegitimately, you might as well CE it in.
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>>122125110
great game but not anything like souls, also very difficult
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Can I seed h-mangas and run h@h while fighting in the arena?
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>>122125515
But you remember all of them. Humanoid bosses are more memorable because they're usually better in quality. Demon's Souls had amazingly creative bosses, but they were all pretty shit except for the humanoid ones
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>>122125579
try and see what happens
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>>122111163
If PS3, then sure
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>>122125579

Yeah.
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>>122125515
>Drecksouls 2
There's your problem.
I was talking about people sperging over humanoid bosses in every game. They are simply retarded.
If DS 3 will have fights on the level of Artorias or Alant, i would gladly take 90% of boss fights being humanoids.
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>>122125286
Chester's?
Silver Knight Armor?
Dingy Robe?
Black Cleric Robe?
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>>122125653
>But you remember all of them.
Not really. I've been playing the game recently but they haven't left much of an impression. I had to do some googling to give you examples.
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First time playing DaS on PS3, does shield + sword run good?

Also what stats should I go for? I got the Black Knight sword and it looks good, going 20str 18dex wont ruin shit for me?
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>>122126263
>black knight sword
enjoy ezpz game from now on
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>>122125754
>the lagstabs got worse in ds2
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>>122126263
Sword + Shield is fine

Black Knight Sword can carry you through the entire game your first play through
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>>122125515
Buddy go ahead and list some of the most well known of the souls series
>Garl Vinland
>False King Alli
>Old Hero
>Penetrator
>O&S
>Artorias
>Gwyn

The only really popular one that breaks the mold is Sif, the most well known and memorable bosses in the series are mostly humans, giant assholes with hitboxes for days and poor animations are rarely considered to be the best.
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>>122126263
>ruin shit
you mean mess up your build? no unless you plan on rocking crystal soul spear as well. sword and board is solid. you will also want lots of end and vit
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>>122125515
i think you're being unfair here

velstadt - big golden fucker with a bell hammer

pursuer - floating fucker with red eyes

fume knight - ash fucker who sets his sword on fire

dragonrider - fat red fucker with a small head

alonne - weeb fucker with a ponytail

smelter demon - fiery fucker with horns

they're all pretty distinctive
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I installed gedosato but I can't select anything higher than my native resolution in the game. How does this shit work? I set what I wanted in the settings and put DS2 on the user whitelist. What else do I need to do?
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>>122126643
They are literally all the same.
Uninspired and generic as fuck. You could cut all of these from the game and it wouldn't change a thing.
B-Team at its best.
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>>122126505
Did you not read his post?

He said "look at the humanoid bosses from previous games, and they all have something that stands out" and it's true. In DaS2 all the humanoid bosses are fucking shit. The only ones that stand out are Lost Sinner and Ivory King and the reason they stand out more than the others is their boss room and slightly different movesets.
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>>122126505
>Gaping Dragon
>Quelaaq
>Sanctuary Guardian
>Priscilla
All popular and memorable. Priscilla is a humanoid but clearly not the Dudes In Armor™ type we've been talking about.
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>>122125996
Any would work alright. Chesters, maybe.
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I just fought The Rotten for the first time. Was I over-leveled for the fight or is he just a pushover? The fire pits in the arena were more dangerous than he was...
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>>122126643
He's not talking about armor or aesthetics ya dingus.
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>>122127126
He´s just really easy
Like Nito was
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>>122127126
He has probably the easiest attacks to avoid in the game.
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>>122127117
>>122126505
Just proves again that Demon an Dark are infinitely better than B Souls.
The only people who play it are twitch fags who needs it for donations from autists.
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>>122127120
This is what I've got so far, I'm not sure what spells/items to use http://mmdks.com/7rl8
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>>122109103
i took this ss
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>>122127008
Continuing on about his assertion that these knight/warrior bosses in Dark Souls 2 all have similar move sets including a gap closer, 2-3 hit combos, and overhead slams, let’s get some perspective. Garl Vinland for Maiden Astraea’s boss fight in Demon’s Souls basically uses one type of move over and over, overhead slams. Old Hero has a couple of two hit combos, a charging gap closer, and an overhead slam. False King Allant has 2-3 hit combos, gap closers, and a few of his attacks involve overhead swings. Same with the Penetrator. Going into Dark Souls, Artorias, Ornstein and Smough, Four Kings, Iron Golem, Gwyn, etc. have these kind of attacks as well.
These kind of attacks are common to ALL knight/warrior type bosses, plus many of the quasi humanoid bosses in all the games. The thing is, there are different kinds of 2-3 hit combos, different kinds of gap closers, and different kinds of overhead attacks, and bosses in DS2 have many of their own unique animations and moves outside of these confines Matthewmatosis places them in. DS2 bosses combos, gap closers, and overhead attacks can act and look different based on what hand or hands they are using, what kind of weapon(s) they are wielding, how they are holding those weapons (underhand, overhand, etc.), their overall body type, their style of combat, etc. Plus, why is having a gap closer, 2-3 hit combos, and an overhead slam suddenly a BAD thing, especially since all the knight/warrior bosses in previous games used them as well? Why is it suddenly a problem now?
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>>122127304
the rotten can actually hit you
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>>122127480
>Why is it suddenly a problem now?
Because people insist on starting shitstorms about how much they hate DaS2 every single thread
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>>122127480
>talking about bosses
>for some reason garl vinland is brought up

Kill yourself for being retarded. Opinion discarded.
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Anyone got the noob friendly Darkwraith pic?
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>>122127480
bosses of das2 are uninspired copies with more combos.
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>>122127117
>sanctuary guardian
Guardian Dragon
>Priscilla
Aldia
>qeualaa
Freija
>Gaping dragon (Ancient Dragon)
Probably the ONLY one that does not have a direct comparison in 2, you can't claim that one set of these is relevant and different from dudes in armor and the other one is not
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>>122127753
Isn't the scorpioness a better comparison to quelaag
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>>122127659
he’s not the one who first mentioned vel-i mean garl
>>122127707
google it for fucks sake
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>fromsoft
>2013
>b-team department

>You know what would really cool? Twinblades and enemy waves before a boss!!! Also lets make it as generic high fantasy as possible with giants, dwarfs and pirates!!!

>But that doesn't fit a Souls game at all. This is some God of War shit and absolutely retarded.

>I KNOW :D

>GREAT!!! LET'S DO THIS :DDxDDD

>I know
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>>122127925
Wouldn't be here if google spat it out m8
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>>122127886
Probably but if neither of them looks like a spider he would claim that it doesn't count.
Sanctuary Guardian and Guardian Dragon was probably pushing it too much as is
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>>122127648
>>122127480
Nice samefag

>>122127480
>comparing those das bosses to false king and an npc

Jesus fucking christ you are desperate.

Iron golem stands out because of his whole schtick. He has a varied moveset which involve multiple attacks with his axe, a grab, and a sonic boom/shockwave from his axe at range. What makes him interesting is his area which is really small and the way you fight him (hit his leg, then his other leg, then his arm, or you can just attack one leg the whole fight like a braindead moron).

Artorias is memorable because of the amount of lore is about him, the sad way he died, the way his character looks as he has been taken over by the abyss. He also has a lot of moves, is one of the fastest bosses, and can power himself up (if you let him).

O&S is interesting because it's a 2 person fight and when one dies they gain the powers of the other. They both have a huge variety of moves in their moveset.

Four kings have more moves than most bosses in Dark Souls 2 and even though it's one of the shittiest bosses, it's still better than "giant dude in armor with fire attacks" or "giant dude in armor that kinda hops around".

Gwyn is the only uninteresting boss you mentioned.
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>>122128174
>multiple attacks with his axe, a grab, and a sonic boom/shockwave from his axe at range
You mean
>multiple combos
>a grab
>a gap closer
Wow!
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calm down the games flamewar

what you guys think of this senpaitachi
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>>122128346
>can't read
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>>122128120
>google darkwraith build
>second image result
wew
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>>122128351
Looks straight out of B-Souls
>>>/trash/
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>>122127006
well if you're going to be ultra negative I suppose that's your prerogative

>>122127147
i think they're distinctive enough gameplay wise to. on mobile so I can't be super specific but velstadt is slow while sir alonne is fast and jumpy
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>>122128351
Stop spamming your shitty HUD redesigns.
They look and always will be looking absolutely atrocious.
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>>122128351
literally no one here cares about your cancerous huds
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>>122128413
You really can't you literally said that he is intersting because of his moves all of which follow the archetype, you might want to learn to type instead.
To add onto your retarded point.

>Artorias doesn't count because of Lore, powering up and fast moves
lets exclude Allonne, Ivory King and not apply the exact same reason

>O&S is good because one power up after the other dies
>lets exclude 2 Tigers because it does the exact same thing
>Lets exclude Darklurker because it is better in every way
>4 kings has shitloads of moves and doesnt count as a giant guy in armor because he is a giant guy in armor
Let's just ignore every non human boss of DS2 because fuck it need to make a retarded point that doesn't even mean anything

But hey why bother, you are literally so far in denial that you will actually say "Well THIS giant dude in armor doesn.t count! He is a giant dude in armor but he just doesn't count!"
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is this accurate?
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>>122128174
>Gwyn is the only uninteresting boss you mentioned.
And even he doesn't look like the others in the game.

Now if he was Boss Fight #8 between Armorman and SkinnyGreatswordDude he wouldn't have much effect but when it's the very final fight of the game after 4 Great Lords (who are all very different) and sad music to remind you of the tragic lore you suddenly have a boss battle the players will remember.
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>>122126452
>>122126420
So I should hit 20str 18dex and just put point in Vit and End?
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>all these losers that still haven't played Bloodborne
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>122129069
>Allonne, Ivory King
Many people here like those fights but imo the character designs are horseshit.

> 2 Tigers
>literal ctrl + c ctrl + v of a previous bossfight
>even slightly comparable to O&S

>Darklurker
I'm ready to admit that he's a pretty good fight, even if I don't care for his splitting gimmick. one point for gryffindor. Too bad most of the game is still dull

>every non human boss of DS2
Oh you mean those just taken straight from DS1? You mean the fucking Rat Gangbang because yeah that was so fucking exciting. Demon of Song is my favorite of the bunch and he might as well be the Pinwheel of the game.
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What's the best thrusting weapon in Das 2?
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>>122130613
>pinwheel of ds2
in what way?
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>>122130868
>walk backwards
>he attacks and completely misses
>you walk up and hit his face 4 times
>walk backwards
>he attacks and completely misses
>ad naseum

You don't even need to roll he also has a very small healthpool.
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>>122130613
>Many people here like those fights but imo the character designs are horseshit.
>character design
>having anything to do with movesets and lore
Keep moving those goalposts anon, first it was "too many knights in armor" then it was "too many knights in armor with slow moves and no good story" now its "too many knights with not good enough character design"

>literal ctrl + c ctrl + v of a previous bossfight
Again you take the least relevant part of it, they are both dual boss fights, in both the bosses are agressive and multiple different moves with combos and in both the other boss powers up if one dies.
But hey move goalposts some more, I'm sure there are some even more superficial things you could harp about like the choice of color or some shit.

>Oh you mean those just taken straight from DS1?
Last Giant
Chariot
Skeleton Lords
Flexile Sentry
Rotten
Covetus Demon
Smelter Demon
Darklurker
Aldia

Go ahead and find me the DS1 bosses all of them were copied pasted from, this should be some interesting mental gymnastics
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>>122130452
consolefag please
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>>122108096
What, forever?
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>Cloud is in Smash Bros
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>>122131889
I'm sorry what?
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>>122131889
Ryu got in too, and SF wasn't on the Wii or the Wii U
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>>122132050
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUQ2_u-5BM
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>>122131687
i think it reappears if you kill manus. you can buy all her shit from elizabeth
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>>122131340
Idort you poor motherfucker HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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>>122132050
>>122132126
Shit, I linked the wrong one.
Here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc3CY31kMJ4&feature=youtu.be
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>>122131287
>game literaelly copy and pastes a boss you fought 10 minutes ago
>the game also copies the same exact moveset and type of fight from a previous game
>P-p-please no bully my f-favorite game D-Ds2!
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>>122132582
Keep at it anon, your constant goal post shifting and character attacks sure proved me wrong.

Now you were about to tell me which DS1 Chariot was stolen from right? Can't seem to hear you over all the shit you are so full of!
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>>122132582
Three ass demons. Generic demons as bosses
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>>122122119
Ill try this out.
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>Get gravelorded
>Fail to kill host
>Can't invade again because he keeps spamming the eye of death and it causes the invasion to fail
>Close the game hoping it will just go away
Now i just found out my world is still fucked and i can't find the sign anywhere at all.
Am i gravelorded forever?
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>>122132150
What about her armor set?
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>>122131287
You're talking with multiple people, dude. My goalpost has not moved anywhere.

>Last Giant
acts like the giants in DS1
>Chariot
is literally a reskinned Boar
>Flexile Sentry
I've only even encountered this as a normal enemy, guess I missed a boss.
>Skeleton Lords
Three Pinwheels
>Rotten
Nito
>Covetus Demon
Jabba the Hut. You really want to bring up this slug when trying to defend DS2?
>Smelter Demon
Dude In Armor
>Darklurker
I already gave you this one
>Aldia
Priscilla. you said this yourself
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>>122133138
>>Aldia
no wait I confused this with Nashandra.

Shows how memorable he is
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>>122122119
Here we go.
Whip cleric here I come
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>>122132986
the one time i found it i had already talked to her. it was on a corpse beside the manus portal. i font know if you can get it some other way
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>>122133138
>acts like the giants in DS1
Does not but keep thinking that
>>122133138
>is literally a reskinned Boar
I seemed to have missed the circular boar encounter where it breaths magic
Boars are in DS2, chariot is not a boar
>Three Pinwheels
The three pinwheels that spawn an army of skeletons when they die?
Anon please you are streching this shit thinner and thinner by the comparison
>Nito
????
>smelter is dude in armor

So from a list of 9 bosses you manged to find 4 that actually had something which a very drunk grampa who knows nothing about videogames might consider similar, and 0 actual copy pastes.
Well done anon!

Still waiting on a Covetus Demon, Darklurker Aldia and Flexile sentry of Dark Souls 1, after all they are all nonhmonoid enemies so they there HAS to be a DS1 comparison, you literally said so yourself.

Ready to admit that your hyperbole keenjerk reaction was dumb and just let go? No going to keep on trying to worm your way out of sounding like a retard while making yourself even dumber?
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>>122133569
Thanks mate, i'll look for it after i beat Manus
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>>122133990
>Ready to admit that your hyperbole keenjerk reaction was dumb and just let go?
I've admitted that the moment I mentioned Demon of Song, my point is that there's not enough variation and the little variation there is isn't enough. No need to lose your shit over it.

MOST enemies are either boring dudes in armor with no personality or lazy rehashes of old ones. Chariot is the Boar but can do magic. Skeleton Lords float, shoot fireballs and spawn more enemies, difference being they spawn after one of Pinwheels is dead. Rotten is a big pile of dead bodies that moves slowly and hits you with a giant sword, also does dark magic. Smelter IS a dude in an armor. Covetus Demon and Aldia are slow pieces of shits you have to be an idiot to die to. Darklurker is ok.
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Anyone want to help me do Ornstein and Smough, killing Smough first?

Level 42, PC.
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Not buying it but it looks good for the price with the game imo.
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>>122137203
>Kill Stray Demon
>Use slab to make +15 weapon
>Get Grass Crest Shield on Darkroot Basin
>Summon Solaire
>Wait for Ornstein to do his thrust and dodge it
>Let Solaire distract him
>Hold weapon with two hands and wreck Smough's shit. His attacks arre easy to dodge if you get close, and may even stagger him.
>Solaire will probably be alive and well
>Let him tank Super Ornstein while you carefully hit him with R2 attacks. Watch out for his grab.
If you already know their attack patterns you should beat them easily this way. Even more if you have pyromancy.
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someone please explain to me how invading as a member of the bellkeeper's covenant works. I thought all I had to do was put on their ring and it'd do the work and invade for me automatically. I did that and then I get invaded by two other grey spirits, wtf?
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>start farming for Black Dragon gear again today
>drop a shield and axe from consecutive kills and another axe minutes later
>drop nothing for another hour
>suddenly drop a warpick and third axe
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Any good LPer on Youtube? I'm feeling like watching someone play Demon's Souls.
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>>122132771
Bosses reused in Dark Souls
>Stray demon and demon firesage
>moonlight butterflies as regular enemies
>taurus and capra demons as regular enemies
>pinwheel as regular enemies
With DLC
>another sanctuary guardian fight

Bosses Reused in Dark Souls 2
>the giant in the memory
>pursuer 2 more times (1 of the times has two pursuers)
>double dragonriders
>flexile sentry used as enemies
>ruin sentinels used as enemies
>guardian dragon used as enemies
Reskinned bosses from 1
>royal rat dickings reskin of sif
>gargoyles
>old dragonslayer
Reused/Reskinned from DLC
>smelter
>covetous demon used as enemy
>lud and zallen
And just for good measure, the most lazily designed boss in all of Fromsoft games
>rat gangbang
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>>122140298
>moonlight butterflies as regular enemies
Spotted the asshole you attacks non aggro enemies.
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>>122140298
>the most lazily designed boss in all of Fromsoft games
>>rat gangbang
I don't know, it's kind of an interesting concept to try to spot the different enemy. Like a "where's waldo" of Dark Souls, the Rat Sif was dumb though
>Won't this boss be easy since they've fought Sif before?
>Let's throw in Toxic rats!
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>>122140365
>Not farming Blue Slabs
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>>122140653
The game already gives you two per playthrough
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>The running attack on Smough's hammer isn't his plowing attack

Fucking thanks Miyazaki.
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>>122141102
>The riposte animation for ornsteins spear isnt his shish kebab move
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>>122141029
What if you want more?
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>>122141498
then you're an indecisive douche
there's no need for more than two Enchanted +5 weapons on one game cycle
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>>122141615
u avin a giggle at me m8? say that to my face irl
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>>122141498
Then farm the butterflies?
I'm not that guy by the way, i just never needed more than that.
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>>122139747
anybody have an answer for this?
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Playing the shitty scholar patch for ps3, I have two 70s right now but I'm debating just starting over.

One's a quality build, one is faith/dex. But I'm finding myself wanting to start over and stop playing like it's just des or dks again. Any suggestions for fun builds in 2? What's the level cap people tend to settle on, and what god does /vg/ choose for their ring?
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Why are people in full havels drinking estus on the iron keep bridge? where the fuck is the honor?
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>The Titanite catch pole,
>from the Tiatnite Demons,
>who are made of Demon Titanite
>upgrades with Twinkling Titanite
>Not Demon Titanite
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First playthrough of DS1. Just got to Undead Parish. Cannot for the life of me find the window to riposte the black knight. The overhead swing is unblockable correct?
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>>122142809
You can parry all the greatsword swings he uses up there. Just do it the precise moment the weapon comes towards you instead of his arcback.
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>>122142874
every swing style? wow, this game is so fun to figure out
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>>122142809
Be a cheeky cunt and run to the fire. He'll try to hit you and get fire damage each time until he dies.
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>>122143034
The most satisfying ones off the black knights are hands down the sword thrusts and the axeleap. Cool as shit.
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>>122143081
Normally I am a cheeser. But I want to try to break that habit.
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>>122119541

>No circlejerking at everyboss like DS2

I´m ok with this.
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>>122143034
If you want to get good at parrying, a pugilist run will make a master out of you.
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>>122143402
a wat?
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>>122143391
is that a cup of peanuts sealed on top of a beer can
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>>122143461
Fists only. No itens. Final Destination.
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>>122143461
Pugilism = Fisticuffs

A playthrough with minmaxed vit, 1 chaos and 1 lightning cestus will keep you on your toes at all times. I named mine Gene, gave it the flipring and mad amounts of health, mobility and res (yes really). It was one of the most fun things I'd ever done in dark souls, and is still one of my favorite pvp saves for oolacile.
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I have a question:

How are red phantom drops calculated?

is it by the number of souls the invader has on them, or is it based on SL?

DaS
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>>122142501

So, about those levels and gods.
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>>122143632

Yup.
Is very popular on my country.
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>>122143902
fists only? I doff in your general direction, gentlesir.


sounds insane, though.
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>>122144016

SL.

See: http://winner.gets-it.net/
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>>122144021

PVP cap is 99, Best god is Odin
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So which NPC will end in smash?
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>>122145603
>NPC
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>>122145697
Git Gud Bros
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i want to start reading berserk is it worth it?
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>>122146309
If don't mind reading a story that will never have a conclusion, then by all means go for it
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>>122146309
Griffith a shit, never forget this anon.
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>>122146309
How much do you like boats anon?
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I just finished my first play through of dark souls 2 (amazing game btw). What was up with the giant flaming guy who shot out of bonfires?
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praise the sun yt channel is the cringiest shit I've watched
>>
SFD
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>>122146651
Maybe you should've paid attention to the story
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>>122146651

Bed of Chaos reference.
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>>122146651
pompous blob rambling about empty pseudo philosophical shit
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>>122147448
Aldia did nothing wrong. Vendrick was just some beta he had to put up with.
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Fuck scorpionness fuck this fucking soul mass
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>>122139747
>>122142273
Being part of the covenent doesn't makes you immune to it.
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>>122151451
get gud
other people beat it why can't you?
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>>122152537
I did, she's a lot easier on a melee run because she is less inclined to use her magic attacks. Pretty hard to dodge when she uses both of them and they both attack you at the same time.
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>>122152825
Oh also forgot to mention she was ng+
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If I make a hard hitting Str Build that only wears super light armor, am I being clever?
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>>122152963
If you can dodge, you can do anything you want.
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I just got into Dark Souls: Prepare To Die the other day, and I'm having fun with it. My main problem is that I can't seem to get my logitech dual action controller to be mapped correctly to the game.

x360ce isn't doing the trick for me, and I'm not going to spend $60 on an xbox 360 controller when I have a perfectly good gamepad here.
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PS3 scholar of the first shit player here
Getting tired of the low population on PSN. What god does /vg/ engrave on their ring?
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>>122154791
we dont
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>>122154879
Fuck, guess I'll just play during the day with everyday peasants then.
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Is Dark Souls 2 harder to run than the original on PC? The only reason I never bought it on steam was fear that it'd run just as shittily or worse.
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>>122155254
It actually runs better.
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>>122111307
For a pyromancer giant dad's child build.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n_BzwEaHBlc
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>>122155446
I'll have to grab it during a steam sale then. I got 1 working at 59.97 with an absurd amount of tinkering but it still had issues in demon ruins/izalith/blighttown. Blighttown was an area that could straight up kick me off the multiplay.
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>>122115838
>>
>fighting Super Smough
>! WEAPON AT RISK !
christ that terrified me
150 hours in DaS1 and that's the first time I've ever gotten a weapon durability warning
does Ricard's Rapier eat through durability quickly with the 6-hit R2 combo or something?
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>>122155985
When you consider how many times the weapon makes impact, it's a pretty good assumption that the R2 will tear through durability.
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>>122146309
Abso-fucking-lutely.

>>122146505
They got off the boat, didn't they? That means that the boat section is going to be that much faster to read, since he doesn't have to wait for the long update schedule. At least the current updates will be a little more varied.
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I've never had a problem with the Anor Londo archers before but the fucks just took 100k souls off me
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>>122156672
They're pretty fucking bullshit
If you can bait the one near the correct side into attacking with his sword while you back up he'll sometimes fall off. If he doesn't I kite him back to the walkway safe zone
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just started demon's souls, anything I should know?
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>>122157220
I kept taking arrows in the back from the fellow on the left
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>>122146406
>>122146505
Miura is finishing the series. It's like 1-2 a month now.
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>>122157556
You can climb over some small walls.
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>>122157580
roll
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How much is too much attunement? I have 50 Int now and I don't know if I should go beyond 20 attunement or if I should level up strength/dex so I can use blue flame sword or moonlight
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>>122158014
I did and the second my i frames ended the guy on the right hit me off the edge with one, the bastard just refused to pull out his sword no matter how close I got finally got passed him just now
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>>122158078
You shouldn't have too many different spells, or else it can be difficult to get the right one, but more attunement means you can slot more duplicate spells for more casts. Just get to a comfortable amount
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>>122157556
If you want to be a good guy, kill Yurt after you free him
If you want to be a bad guy, kill Yurt after you free him
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>>122158078
It's kind of a case of "the more the merrier". That being said, if you feel like you have all the spells you want attuned, then just stop leveling it.
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>>122158296
>>122158369
I'll probably just level strength/dex then, I have the ritual +2 band so I should have enough slots
>>
Can you really get Crystal Magic Weapon for the spiders?
>>
i fucking hate hackers in this game. pvp watchdog doesn't do shit
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>>122161719
>pvp watchdog doesn't do shit
You know you can kick hackers out of your game, right?
>>
Has anyone else playing DaS on 360 been noticing an increase in Red Phantom Vagrants?
I've seen about 5 or so in the past hour.
And about 2 white ones today.
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>>122161426
I was just confused because on CMW's page it said you can get it from spiders but on the spiders page it doesnt list it.
>>
0-3 DaS
4-7 SotFS
8-9 Do something else
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>>122166183
At least I get to play tonight.
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>>122166183
Let's see.
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>SL1 Darkwraith invasions in Blighttown
>Finally find the host after about 5 minutes
>He keeps spamming BKGS 2HR2's
>I keep dodging them and chipping away at his health
>Finally he opens up for a backstab, get it and he falls off a ledge
>I get about 20,000 souls (what level would that make him?)
>He sends me about 5 messages in another language that I don't recognize
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>>122166729
Doing god's work anon
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17442600/slcalc/index.html
Use that
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>>122166883
That's pretty neat
Thanks
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Is Sieglinde the strongest NPC is all of Dark Souls?

>>122167448
>tfw newfags don't bother reading pastebins anymore
baka desu senpai
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> tfw when Ds1 will never get backwards compatibility
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>>122167801
It's a down right classic I could see it getting an HD remake in 6 years
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>>122167801
Are you talking about dark souls or demon souls?
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>>122162969
>Kicking hackers
>Not creatively using gravity
Ultra pleb desu
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>>122168163
There is no Demon's Souls 2 anon
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>>122168163
Is this kid being legit?
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>>122168540
I don't know.
>>122168163
Kid, are you being legit?
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>>122168459
There isn't a Tsukihime Anime either.

I was asking about the Ds1 abbreviation. Demon Souls is technically the first in the series, so I /can/ imagine some kind of logic in applying a one to that.

Normally I wouldn't, but the varied capitalization is making me reach further for as many possible explanations as possible.

>>122168540
I just got into Dark Souls a couple of days ago, so I don't know all the acronyms the thread uses. I'm in the Undead Burg farming the Hollows to practice parrying before I make another run at the Taurus Demon.
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>>122168719
Pro tip
If someone puts a number on the end they're referring to Dark Souls as Demon's has no sequels meaning there is no need for a numbering system and if they're not assholes they'll use the "DaS" and "DeS" abbreviations
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>>122167801
I know that feeling anon
I downloaded ds2 from the 360 marketplace ages ago and I never liked Sotfs (played it on pc for a short time)
> tfw neither ds1 or vanilla ds2 will ever get backward compatibility
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How do I git gud at parrying in PvP? I can parry with no issues in PvE, but the timing is always off in PvP. Luckily it's not usually fatal, but fucking up a parry in PvP is still embarrassing.
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>>122169903
It just comes naturally after trying over and over again. You need to be able to read the opponent's movements.

Usually it's harder in PVP than in PVE because of the lag.
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holy shit i just realized why ds2 is so bad
it's because there are 4 kings
vendrick, iron king, ivory king, and sunken king
man fromsoft really shot themselves in the foot with the dlcs
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>>122169903
Ds1 or 2?
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>>122170042
>Usually it's harder in PVP than in PVE because of the lag
That's one of my main problems, I think
I'll try timing it to compensate for lag and get hit

>>122170331
Ds1
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>>122169903
Well nice job asking a question and not responding faglord
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Could someone help me out with Knight Artorias in Dark Souls on the 360?
>sl12
message me on xbox live:
>beausjo2
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>>122170272
Missing the Giant King and probably a few others I can't care to go through and find out for you.
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>>122170583
>ds1
Yeah just predict what they're gonna do. Like a roll attack or a set up. Or if youre feelin risky and youre low and they pull out a katana you could try parrying that. I did that today because he was predictable as fuck. Theres another one where you can see them go for the backstab and if theyre not too laggy you can follow them around and parry them. Look up "playing around with backstab parries" or something like that by spadessfcrpg.

>>122170595
Fuck off
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>>122170583
>Ds1
Here's a good guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKwaL9v5wqg&feature=youtu.be
Seriously read the fucking pastebin in the OP
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>>122170851
>>122170583
Correction: its actually sfcspadesrpg
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>>122170595
???

>>122170851
>>122170903
Thanks friends
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>>122170814
nah m8
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>>122171032
Sure thing, seriously read the pastebin in the OP there's some real useful info from before this place went to shit, and set up parries are the easiest, if you read that someone is gonna go for multiple attacks while your blocking it's pretty easy to catch them and parry.
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>>122171032
Another protip(s): how 2 parry

>do a somewhat slow attack that is usually punished easily but you have time to recover
>turn to your opponent and parry
Works a ton also, if someone kicks and you block it/parry it, they WILL follow up with an r1, so parry immediately after because you'll be able to land that riposte.
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>>122169903

PvP parrying is very different, I think that's clear. Because of the latency you have to predict and set up parries. The advice you already got is good. This is one of the more interesting PvP parrying techniques IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdvySTSyCT0

I'd classify it one of the most advanced ones but it's something to look into.
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>>122173691
That's filthy I like it

>tfw you back stab someone by back stepping through them
I've never felt more ashamed but it was awesome at the same time
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>>122174692
Thanks for autistically bumping the thread while everyone is asleep
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>>122174809
its your fault for responding to him. just wait for the ban sweep.
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>>122167801
I would love if it was downloadable from PSN store, instead of being physical only.
I fear the day when my disc mechanic gives up the ghost.
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Hey /dsg/,
I rerolled into a pyromancer because pyromancies are the funnest spells in the game. I have 30/30 Int/Fth and 50 Att, and then I dropped a couple points into ADP to bump me to 100 Agility. The rest of my points went into meeting the Chaos Rapier requirements and then into boosting my HP.

For PvE, what are my go-to weapons and spells? I wish I could get a million casts of Great Fireball because it seems really good really often. Should I infuse the Chaos Rapier or leave it? What do I do against Fire-resistant enemies? Fire rings I'm using Flynns+Leo, Clear Bluestone, and Cloranthy+2.

I'm mostly using the chaos rapier because it was the first thing that popped into my head. I guess I can use pretty much anything, but it seems directed at pyromancers so I grabbed it and specced for it. It also works with Old Leo Ring.
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>>122179328
I don't get this meme. If you have the fury blade it takes 20s per king when 2 handed. I've only ever tried a chaos balder side sword and that didn't do enough for me at a high speed so I ended up switching.
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What's your favorite souls game?
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>>122181442
What is the point of this continuous shitposting? Doesn't it get tiring?
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>>122140240
vageta311 has a pretty good run of Demon's Souls on his youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beCX41cRtKE

He also has a level 4 challenge run on the same channel if that's your thing.
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Having some trouble with Maneater. Can someone help me? SL 37
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>>122182283
That's DeS right? Which region?
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>>122182283
sure i can help, eu?
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>>122182214
It's a little bit different than most LPs though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLItPEpkK7A
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>>122140240
>>122182831
Quoted wrong person.
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>>122182501
>>122182807

Yes, DeS. North America. I'm standing on the Fool's Idol Archstone, just waiting for a blue sign.
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>>122183202
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/versions
which?
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>>122183337
Digital release from the NA PSN.
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>>122183480
no help from me then. im using eu, you really should be doing it alone desu.
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>>122142719
>using your own flesh to upgrade your weapon
shiggy
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>>122185219
>not using your own flesh to upgrade your weapon
ishygdds
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>>122185417
scales of other dragons=flesh
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I'm still waiting for a 2 legged titanite demon. Life is unfair.
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>>122186738
hmm?
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>>122186738
they already have two legs
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>>122187132
I'm quite sure their left leg is chopped off.
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>>122187354
...it's still a leg
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>>122180973
1>des>2>haven't played bb imo desu
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Just bought demon souls. Proud to git gud soon.
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>>122126428
lel
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>>122190981
Lel
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>>122191857
p2p action games suffer from bad connections and lagswitching, more at 11.
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The final episode of Plague's LP is out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dd40qeeLFbM
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>>122192217
>talks about more stuff than ENB
>somehow runs the game faster than ENB

Whut
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>nearly every forest invasion is untouchable
>every time, guy warps from halfway acrossed the map, backstabs me
>all of my spells connect, their character visibly staggered but do no damage
>get lagstabbed for my entire health bar (2300 hp)
>the occasional curse/full gear break guy shows up

Do hackers just stay human in the forest to kill any sort of fun whatsoever? Are these the kids who were bullied in gym class?
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>>122193691
ds1 has been cracked so far open that basically everyone cheats now
ds2 isn't much better off either
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>doing bow only run
>need 3 titanite slabs
>siegmeyer's retarded ass took too much damage and killed himself
>wasted 3-4 hours farming the dickwraiths
>go through 20-25 homeward bones (can't exactly remember the number)
>with 410 item discovery
>not 1 single fucking slab

What do? I can't get the crystal lizards in the great hollow fast enough, and my only other option is to rush DLC for the one behind kalameets waterfall or go to NG+ and rush stray demon.
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>>122194227
>I can't get the crystal lizards in the great hollow fast enough

Quit and reload at their spawn points, it's the only sensible way to get them.
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>>122194087
I've been cheating in DaS2 since Santa, Zullie, Cliffracer, and Allbonesjones made it fun.
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Hey can anyone help me with the skeleton lords on ds2? not scholar and my SL is 72k
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>>122195127
I like how you realized that you fucked up half way through but didn't bother to correct it.
If you are having issues get the key for the locked bonfire, talk to cr8, rest at the bonfire, clear the 2 necromancers and pull the lever the is between the 2 skeleton caves, cr8s sign should be there, he does a pretty gud job of tanking for you
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>>122195459
creighton is sotfs only dude
boner lords have no summons in vanilla
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>>122192160
>posting hackers
ds2drones...
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>>122122119
rollan
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>>122195459
First off im trying to fucking kill the necros, its not easy with a melee build and also like the other guy said cr8 isnt a summon, ill just keep banging my head against a wall til i get it.
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>>122195962
>posting rare glitches

dasdrecks...
reee?
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Is there a crystal cave guide somewhere? I just learned that there is 3 crystal lizards somewhere and I see orange messages off in the distance that i've never seen before, but i've no idea where to go to get that shit.

Every video is just some faggot recording his television on his phone and just rushing to seath.
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>>122122119
Rewl
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>>122198146
The wikis have guides that get you all the items
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>>122198146
Just explore
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I need a good quality image of a Havelmom with a katana, preferably Chaos Blade. Anyone happen to have one on hand, or could take a picture of one?
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People who drink estus at iron keep bridge should be gassed.
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>>122199630
people who get mad at video games are sad
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>>122199694
You're probably a faggot estus sipper why should I care?
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>>122190981
they did, that kind of lagstab is only if the guy is like watching 2 streams and lives on the other side of the world. while the ds2 ones happen a bit more often and from way farther away. In all my time playing ds1 the only time where I warped across the map to get backstabbed was from a lagswitching hacker. The rest were from short range as in I roll once and they stab me. you can actually parry them backstab fishing if youre a bit experienced.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4N-SQsu8DA&ab_channel=SfcSpadesRpg/Shinobu/Kai
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>>122199898
>not wanting dishonorable people to be gassed is a good thing
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>>122200286
>MUH HONORABU FIGHTO
*tips meme*

I don't see any rules about PvP dictated by the game, all's fair in love and war noob.
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>>122200492
Hey man I get it, you're a faggot you don't need to say any more
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>>122200286
>dishonorable
I bet you were fuming at the mouth when you get killed in CoD too
Seriously take a break or play a game designed around PvP, not sit around getting upset over a casual component of a much larger game.
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>>122200610
Don't even play CoD you utter faggot
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>>122200592
>doesn't even have an argument
>y-yeah youre a faggot! dont have to tell me! haha!
to be fair estus is harder to punish in ds2 but thats how the game is, honor aint gon cut it
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>>122200776
People who tip anything even ironically should be gassed without remorse.
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>>122200908
epic
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>>122199965
dasdreck, folks
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>>122201142
I'm gonna create a new build focused around poison and toxic mist. You're gonna regret this day next time you sip estus and get literally gassed to death in game.
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Post your face when DaS 3 is as disappointing as 2
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>>122199965
>crystal weapons
>duped blessings
jesus christ, such an elite player
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>>122199898
did he try to curve the bullet?
>>122198146
when you step on the invisible crystal with the second dev message, above the golem, do an 180, you'll see them
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>>122201709

>DaS2 is bad meme!

Fuck off already.
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>>122201709
As long it's not as bad as DaS1 I'm fine.
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>>122201694
ok
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What a terrible general. You are all so bad at PVP too.
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>>122202343
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>>122201174
Gonna have to nitpick harder than that. That type of lag in ds1 is so rare you'd have a better chance of finding 2 slabs on darkwraiths than finding that.

>>122201728
Youre missing the whole point of the video but the crystal weapons are just saving time farming the materials for one, they're just free extra damage, dont you PC folk always cheat in stuff with no guilt? he only uses the blessings on other people who use em.
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>>122202343
says the one who had to heal against an ultra gs user while using a spear in a fightclub
kek
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>>122202690

He was lagging.
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>>122202690
was this recorded? Lucy always talks about how he was a god in ds1 pvp. But has never shown any actual footage, he uses spears doesn't he?
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So is there any way that I can increase the draw distance on summon and host health bars?

I'm hunting in blighttown and locating them is the hardest part. I'd like to be able to see their health bar from infinite distance, like the bloodstain.
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>>122202561
>That type of lag in ds1 is so rare
Funny because you can cause it by downloading midget porn just like in DaS2.
Who are you trying to fool m8? Maybe twitch chats will believe you.
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Is 4.6m soul memory not a good memory for DS2 if I want to pvp? Arena and summons. Or does it really even matter?
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>>122203110
In all my time watching ds1 and playing I dont think I've seen too often if at all. And another thing, you can actually block phantom damage. Are you able to do that in ds2? This isn't a rhetorical question Im genuinely curious
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>>122202989
It was on d_invaders twitch, so it's gone unless kobra cared to archive it.
He was also destroyed by D and called a girl which caused luce to drop his trip several months. It was hilarious.
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what level are you guys when you do blighttown?
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>>122204050

20-30
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Whats good legging to go with xanthaous overcoat in DS2? That is not xanthaous waist-cloth. For a male.
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>>122204405
what's that website that shows invasion ranges?
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guess who is the guy with rare dank des files
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>>122180973
I'm wearing that shirt right now
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>>122204050
I don´t
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>>122206707
>screenshotting points of the intro video from youtube
>google image search and save Demon's Souls
images
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>>122207179
autism
>>
The chosen undead is the only god there is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKeHF3QMSBc

LOL
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>>122154590
Use a keyboard+mouse like any person with an undamaged brain.
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So I need to kill Four Kids now and I know they are weak to lightning but as I'm doing a bow only run I feel like they will be harder than normal.

These seem to be my options
>gough's greatbow them
>buy lightning arrows and use composite bow
>use lighting avelyn

Which sounds like the best option?
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>>122210104

Composite bow.
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>>122180973

I loved them all. Yes, even DS2, I thought the story and adventures of the cursebearer pretty nifty.
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>>122201174
>>122190981
The first webm (in the forest) is a jap fighting americans. The second webm (painted world) is a euro trying to fight in a jap FC.

This webm on the other hand is from 5 miles away, in the same state, with the same ISP, both under 15 ping.
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>>122210252
Will lightning arrows do more damage than lightning avelyn? I feel like they wont, but the bow is much faster.
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>>122210069
>Ds1
>Mouse
>Undamaged brain
Pick two
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>>122210513
>living in the USA

One day, we'll get you out of this shithole, I promise. Or at least get you decent internet.
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>>122210731
>Mouse
>Undamaged brain

There.
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>Gwyn is called Lord of Cinder due to his light/flame being burnt out
>There's a character called Lord of Cinder that seems to be the final boss and a Dark Souls 2 Giant in Dark Souls 3
Did everyone seriously just fucking glossed over this like nothing?
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>>122210801
M8, I have 11 ping, 90 down 15 up. That's better than most euroshitter internet. Unless you live in a fucking flyover state or in the areas of commiefornia that don't have fiber/fios then you are gonna have internet as good if not better than europe.
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>>122210983
You've obviously never been to Netherlands.
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What the hell is up with Armored Spider

I can't move around at all and I'm constantly surrounded by the web. The only way I've survived the fire breath is by going into farthest corner and blocking but that's hardly effective in the long run. Am I missing something?
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>>122210941
They won't pay attention to it until Vaatishitia spoonfeeds them with it like it's a supermystery.
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>>122211304

Bow
Stand at the back
Shoot

dodge
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In Ds2 what is a good katana at base stats + lightning infused/weapon buff?
Looking for a second weapon.
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>>122211304
Try hitting it.
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>>122211490
>katanas

You can still save yourself from eating shit.
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>>122211516
sure but what I really want to know is how to dodge its attacks
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>>122211774
A good shield can help, otherwise it's back to munching grass.
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What's an effective early game weapon for a knight build to use/strengthen and possibly enchant in DS1
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>>122211304
Armored spider makes audio and visual cues as to when it's going to attack (obviously), the web attack will slow you down but can easily be avoided by rolling to the side or avoiding the side/range where AS will attack with the web as there's variations to it, like a single one and a area blocking one.
If I recall correctly Armored Spider will move to the opposite side of where it'll attack.
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>>122212241
The one you like most.
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Please help.
I've been using DSFix for quite a while, but I recently discovered that it's not affecting Dark Souls 1 like it used to anymore. Meaning I cannot skip intro logos, the "DSFix Enabled" text no longer appears at the title screen, and my textures aren't being rendered. The game doesn't crash though. Here's what I've done to try and fix this:

>Made sure I opted in the beta [-dsptde-2.0]
>Made sure AA and Motion Blur were off
>Updated the older versions of everything related to DSFix (DINPUT8.dll, DSFix.ini, dsfix folder, etc.) to version 2.4
>Made sure the internal rendering resolution is the same as my screen resolution
>Made sure enableTextureOverride is set to 1
>Made sure skipIntro is set to 1
>Made sure all of the necessary files were located in the DATA folder where DARKSOULS.exe was located
>Tested game with default settings in DSfix.ini
>Made sure I enabled all that I wanted again in DSfix.ini
>Made sure the textures I wanted were in the tex_override folder
>Disabled DEP for Dark Souls
>Made exceptions for DINPUT8.dll in case antivirus was blocking it
>Restarted computer multiple times

I do not have MSI Afterburner, so it's not that either. Tested the game after nearly all of these bullet points, and DSfix is just not being recognized anymore.
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>>122212115
>>122212294
Well I kind of forced my way through it now. Tanked all the attacks, healed, hitted as much as could, repeated.
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>>122211243
I'd said most. And a lot of those speed test images with over 150+ down and 50+ up is usually the internet of a company and not a household.
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>>122212241
That's like asking advice for clothing. Choose one you like, in this game, most of the weapons can take even the unexperienced player up to later ngs.
>>
Can some one help me around SM 30k on the Knight Boss in DS2 on PC?
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Just realized that 2handing a dex weapon doesn't give as much dmg boost as str. I'm slow as fuck because i knew about the dmg boost on str weapons and i assumed it works the same with dex.
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>>122210934
not in ds1 though
this is the setup im using, no mouse because wonky camera
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>>122210638
try it out on the everlasting dragon.
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Is there any way to bind jump to run + tap B in DaSII like it was defaulted in DaS? It's currently on P and I have to switch to kb+m just to jump.

Please help me
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>>122212592
>putting that much work into a video game
>>
Playing DS1 with mouse is completely possible with the fixes, I did it for a long time.

The only limitation is moving the camera while walking, but it's not much of a problem.
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>>122213603
You can change it under Game Options.

It's not a good idea though, running with you shield up won't stop jumping anymore.
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>>122210801
>the problem is not dark souls 2 is usa
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>>122213841
Thanks homie
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i am thinking of getting the scholar of the first sin to co op with a friend

i played a sorcery guy and a strength guy on the release dark souls 2

was pyromancy, dex or dual wielding any good? any other build i should try?
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>>122214221
powerstace longsword and red rust scimi
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>>122214221
I just started a dual wielding playthrough for my first time, because I'm a shield guy.

I wish I had done it sooner, I hit like a truck with powerstanced straightswords. It feels unfair honestly.
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>>122214221
Pretty much build is viable, barring a couple weapons that are beyond saving.
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>>122213139
>Not putting the camera on arrow keys
>using them for stupid menu navigation instead
No
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>>122210513
Can't believe people are unironically defending DaS1's netcode.
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>>122216664
They aren't people

They're cockroaches
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>>122216664
With every release, people forget how dogshit the netcode and lag of the previous game was. Happened with DeS and DaS too
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>>122216073
it's easier for me this way. i get to have the 5 for locking. you do realize it's on the numpad, right?
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>>122216664
Yo he just proved you wrong and your only response is "LOL THEYRE STILL DEFENDING IT xDD"
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The netcode is perfect I swear!
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>>122218398
can you quote one post saying that?
>>
Same guy has been using a longsword ice rapier in BoB arenas for weeks.

I know youre not having fun. What are you doing?
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>>122218398
thats a lagswitcher you dumbass. If you couldn't tell he's also cheating. God youre stupid
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>>122218398
Artorias has transcended time and space! How can you beat that?
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>>122219830
>I know youre not having fun
okay
>>
>>122219875
All those DaS2 webm's show lagswitchers!1
Phew, for a second my favourite game went undefended on the internet.
bad netcode and lagswitching go hand in hand, retard
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>>122221179
see>>122210513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrXAn576iXw&ab_channel=holdenmcclure
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>>122221430
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>>122221430
>>122221179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nbz4_1gTAw&ab_channel=BendyG

forgot one
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>>122221430
literal autism
>get bsed
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>122221430
Dunno what you're trying to show, but all those backstabs were easily dodgable. The trick is to account for latency, the same way you do when parrying in DaS1
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>>122221774
dont like that one take a look at>>122221714
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>>122222025
use your eyes, he's rolling. I've provided tons of examples while you provided a grand total of 2
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>tfw you begin to play with the lag instead of against it
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>>122221714
It's as if latency makes you appear where you were at least half a second ago on your opponent's screen...
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>>122222082
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>>122222380
So you don't know how dodging backstabs works in DaS2.
>>
Parry felt so dynamic and fun in Ds1
Why did they turn it to shit?
>>
>>122222527
Yes and since this game uses client side hit detection you'll get hit if they hit you on their screen.
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>>122222487
Oh you think the lag is your ally? You merely adopted the lag, I was born it. Molded by it.
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>>122213603
that webm is extremely uncomfortable
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>>122223787
Too cheesy I suppose?
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any mod that makes beards not look like rimjob aftermath?
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If you kill Vendrick before Watcher/Defender, do you have to fight Nashandra and Aldia after them?
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Whats a good paladin build for DS2?
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>>122223787

The only reason I can think of is that they wanted to make sure you can't miss the riposte.
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>>122224596
You need to kill the Giant Lord to be able to fight Nashandra and Aldia.
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>>122213603
did it died?
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>>122141102
There was another version of the hammer that had that move but it was cut. You can mod it in i think
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>>122224770
I already killed the Giant Lord as well
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>>122223787
They tried to fix it, like they did with rolling. In DS1, parry and rolling were extremely OP, you could just use them with little penalty and a huge reward. Basically free, overpowered mechanics.

Sadly, they fucked up. Parry is not worth it anymore, it's slow and the damage is underwhelming. The frame windows is too tight for most items, so parry isn't worth the risk most of the time, unless you have the right parry shield/weapon.

Experienced players can use it just fine with a bit of training, but new players can't, it's not even worth trying for them.
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>>122224772
>>122224116
>>>/wsg/816470
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>>122224850
Then you'll have to fight Watcher/Defender then Nashandra right after if you didn't kill Vendrick, or Watcher/Defender then Nashandra right after then Aldia right after if you killed Vendrick.
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>>122224782
You can also moveswap with the pike, you'll get a running attack very similar to Smough's.
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>>122225189
I have to fight all three ^_^
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Ds2drones so sad that all they do is shitpost
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Are any of the maces good for DS2 pvp?
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>>122224949
>In DS1, parry and rolling were extremely OP
you mean ds2? You could just backstab parry fishers, that and you could just dead angle them.
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>>122225443
im pretty sure you can feather out after W&D but not after nash
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>you need 50 loyce souls to get the items

ok this is stupid. im cheat engining this stuff offline, and i hope it doesn't detect that. It won't detect it if it's just this, and offline, right?
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>>122226372
I'm talking about PvE. These kinds of changes will just get abused anyway, no matter what you do.
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>>122226967
>in PVE
who cares? Its much quicker than
>r1, r1, r1, r1 dead
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>>122225045
cool. I had one of these things wake me up few years ago when I found it walking on my chest. Not sure what it was doing there desu so I took it outdoors. Then it came back through the window and smacked full speed into a wall. How bizarre.
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>>122227195
>Parry in DS2
>Quicker than anything

It takes a fuckton of time just to do the parry and riposte, and another fuckton for the enemy to get up again, and all that for the damage of 2 r1's.

So, yeah, hitting with you weapon is a thousand times faster than parrying in DS2.
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>>122227609
Im talkin about ds1
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>>122227656
What point are you trying to make? It is faster indeed, and that is the good thing about parry in DS1.

The problem with parry is that there is no penalty. if you use your fist or a shield to do it, you'll get the same parry frames. It's a free given mechanic that allows you to just ignore any enemy damage and kill them in an extremely easy away.

Parry in DS1 would be perfect if the parry windows was a bit tighter and we had the shield differences we have in DS2. Small shield woulds be actually useful and you could keep medium shield as the balanced version, with a nice defense and the parrying ability, like they should be.
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Do fight club hosts get souls when the invaders kill each other?
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>>122229182
yes. Why wouldn't they?
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>>122229346
In that case I'll just kill they host next time.
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>>122229449
Pretty sure most hosts will have the Agape Ring on
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>>122229583
I assumed it was a way of getting souls without effort.
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>>122229642
Literally nobody has ever done that. People host fight clubs because they like PvP/watching duels. Although attacking a host while a fight club is going on usually results in every red coming after you as well
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>>122229449
>how to be a dickwad 101
ruining fcs is not cool, they are rare as it is. if you invade via sign try to act properly. if you invaded via orb you’re basically a party crasher and have leave to do whatever
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>>122229731
>Literally nobody has ever done that.
I have...
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>>122229642
Nah, but its a really easy way of getting loads of human effigies
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>>122230504
exactly. nobody
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>>122226753
I just beat them all in a row and walked away from the throne. They should just have not tried to foight me.
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>>122230640
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>>122230836
>Posting bottom bitch in an outdated game on the wrong general
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>>122230925
:^)
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>>122111693
Cringe thread?
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>Make edgemaster build
This is so stupid it's fun.
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>>122231440
Do you mean an edgy character, or do you mean Edgemaster
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>>122231513
edgy character.
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>>122231596
You should do an actual Edgemaster build. Using tons of varying weapons and styles
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>>122231706
That's actually how my character is right now.
40 in every stat but Int/Faith which is like...71.
Switching up weapons is fun though.
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Someone put their summoning sign down sentinel boss at the lost bastille in ds2
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>>122232495
done ;)
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>>122232495
Give me just a sec to boot up my commodore 64
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>>122232618
>>122232741
thanks senpai
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>learn how to bs
>learn how to parry
>over 50% of the enemies in game you can't bs/parry
>the ones you can are pushovers anyway
gee that was useful
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how does this even happen????
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>>122233490
some people enjoy challenge unlike you rocking magic
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>>122233274
Gwyn can be parried
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>>122233743
le dying constantly butthurt melee meme
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Darklurker ate my Sunlight Spears and Great Lightning Spears like a champ
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Considering DaS3 is going to have 15 bosses (or close to 15), how would you change the bosses in DaS1 (22 bosses) and DaS2 (31 + 1) so that there would only be 15?

For DaS, I would go like this:
>remove Stray Demon and Demon Firesage
>remove Moonlight Butterfly
>remove either Ceaseless Discharge or Centipede Demon and make the other remaining fight better quality (both of those bosses affects the lava either by removing it or giving you a ring to walk on it, so their purpose overlaps a bit regardless of the lore)
>remove either Taurus Demon or Capra Demon and make the other fight better quality
>make Gwyndolin and Priscilla NPCs
>just make Pinwheel harder

For DaS2:
>First path: Last Giant -> Ruin Sentinels -> Lost Sinner (remove dragonrider, dragonslayer and flexile sentry, make the first and the last tough enemies like the black knights)
>Second Path: Najka -> Freja
>Third Path: (Royal Vanguard > Autority if no Smelter Demon) -> Rotten
>Fourth Path: Executioner's -> Covetous + Mytha both at the same time, like O&S -> (Smelter Demon if no Rat boss) -> Old Iron King
>Final Path: LGK -> Demon of Song -> Vendrick or Velstadt (make Vendrick NPC) -> Ancient Dragon (make the fight better, of couse)-> Nashandra
>Optional boss: Darklurker
>Secret final boss: Aldia
>with less boss fights, make each remaining better

15 bosses, or 17 with the optional bosses, which would be comparable to the amount in Bloodborne.
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>>122234074
My first playthrough was as a mage. Magic is easy anon
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>>122234882
I would just make Stray Demon, Gargoyles, Capra Demon, Butterfly not actual "bosses".
>>122235291
Eh. This is my 2nd playthrough, my first play through was melee, but my save got deleted. I want to play through it again quickly so that I can see if the DLCs are worth playing.
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sup /dsg/

After many failed attempts at clearing the game (life got in the way, I usually stopped before clearing Sen's), I just finished my first complete runthrough of DaS1. Link was the build I finished with. How did I do?

http://mmdks.com/7rmx
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>>122234882
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>>122235460
Having played DLCs as a magic character I'll tell you this
you are fucked
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>>122235503
eh
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>>122235717
Simple: if you trim down the fat, how better would the games be? Or wouldn't they feel a bit empty in places?
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>>122236103
if anything, i’d like more bosses. facing a boss for the first time and trying to understand his deal make up some of the best moments in every game.
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>>122236581
>facing a boss for the first time and trying to understand his deal make up some of the best moments in every game.
Except when that boss is godawful like Prowling Magus and Covenant. DaS2 has more bosses than DaS, but not every of those additionnal bosses are on-par in quality. What if you take the time spent on creating Prowling Magus to make another one better? Wouldn't that create better moments? But is 15 bosses too low still?
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>>122237009
yeah, magus in particular was more of an encounter than a boss. can’t even call it a gank like is parish because everything is slow as fuck. that doesn’t mean we should bring the amount of bosses down to 15
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>>122111307
I think it was part of shield design contest, but they alter discovered that entry had been traced, so they made this shitty shield as a joke.
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>>122234882
Yes how about we make DS2 even more disjointed and jarring with the area transitions!
God knows we didn't cut enough shit to make it nonsensical enough as is
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>>122233745
woop de doo one exception. My point still stands
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>>122238125
>even more disjointed and jarring with the area transitions!
Explain to me how removing bosses would make each area even more disjointed.

The Pursuer is a regular tough enemy.
Flexile Sentry is a regular tough enemy.
Dragonrider is a regular tough enemy, and there's no reason for having a boss being just two of them after there was a boss being just one of them.
Guardian Dragon is just a regular tough enemy with a single additionnal ability.
Prowling Magus and Congregation are just regular mobs put together without any real gimmick.
Throne Watcher and throne defender have no purpose for protecting the throne since it's already protected by the King's Door and only serve as being reduntant (fighting 2 bosses or 3 bosses in a row).
There's no reason for there being 2 bosses in Harvest Valley + Earthen Peak when you can blow through Harvest Valley in less than 3 minutes because it's composed almost entirely of side zones.
Executioner's chariot, Belfry gargoyles, Royal Rat bosses, Old dragonslayer and Darklurker's only purpose is to highlight the covenants they are attached to and they have no partake in the progression of the game. I saved Executioner's because it's a better fight than the Skeleton Lords and Darklurker because it's a neat fight.
Giant Lord could have been kept, but it's too similar to Last Giant in difficulty and fighting style.

The only areas that would be dramatically changed are Heide's Tower of Flame, No Man's Wharf and Door's of Pharros.
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>>122234613
dank
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>>122239669
http://darksouls.wikidot.com/parry
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>>122240064
>gwyn as the only parriable boss
>rest are easy to deal with enemies
This just further proves my point. I don't know why you even posted this link but okay.
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>>122239852
>he didn't like the Skelly Lords
Skeleton Lords are a textbook example on how to make a fight with ADDs fun and engaging, instead of annoying.
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>>122239852
>Giant Lord could have been kept, but it's too similar to Last Giant in difficulty and fighting style.
You realize that on purpose right? Last Giant IS Giant Lord. It's 10/10 boss design. You are now realizing why he ripped his own arm off to smash you. Because you're the one who got him locked up.
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>>122241104
You can parry Ceaseless Discharge
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>>122241279
>Kill Giant Lord in the past and steal his soul and Giant's Kinship
>oh no wait he didn't die after all, he was just locked up
>here's the new soul that he got from nowhere as a reward for killing him in the present
???
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>>122241247
I don't dislike the Skeleton Lords fight. In fact, when it comes to swarms as a boss, this shit is pretty enjoyable. I just think Executioner's fight is better designed and would fit more as the boss for Huntman's Copse than the Skeleton Lords.
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>>122241247
I heard they nerfed it in SotFS so that there are less Bonewheels with less tracking.

Why...? I honestly had alot of fun with those guys.
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>>122241375
Read the item descriptions. You're missing the "gameplay>story" issue a lot of people have trouble with.
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>>122241375
>>122241451
Soul of the Last Giant
>The lord of the Giants, who had brought wrack and ruin to the entire kingdom, was said to have
been felled by an unknown warrior. His beaten and broken remains were then dragged beneath the stronghold, where he was sealed away.

You're the unknown warrior who turned up at the battle that day. You killed the lord and disappeared into the mists of time.
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>>122241279
>Last Giant IS Giant Lord.
But that doesn't mean anything. It's easy to recognize that the Last Giant is the Giant Lord just by the looks. But the moveset could have been different, he could have been way more dangerous, stronger, and thus more representative of its power when he was the leader of the giants and not just chained up.
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>>122241451
>implying that I didn't read the item descriptions
They do nothing to resolve the paradox. Also, the excuse of "gameplay >>> story" doesn't apply when two different elements of the STORY contradict one another
>>122241660
that item description begins with:
>Soul of the SURVIVING giant, who was bound below the Forest of the Giants.
the capitalization was added by me, for emphasis.

So that very item description contradicts itself. Furthermore, if the Giant Lord died in the past, there's no way that it still has a soul when you fight him as the Last Giant, nor should he be alive at all to fight. However, if he survived, then there's no way you could have gotten the Giant Lord Soul (I suppose you could have grabbed the Kinship from his broken, barely breathing body, assuming that it's a physical object at all)
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>>122241425
Honestly, both are pretty fitting for the zone when viewed alone, it's just that there aren't enough connections between them
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>From proves they can do flails
>Even with physics
>Doesn't give the player one in any game
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>>122241740
>But the moveset could have been different,
no, because the similarity of the movesets is strength. You're supposed to think to yourself how this feels like you're fighting the Last Giant again. The first boss is also ones of the last bosses. It's neat.
>more representative of its power
He hits like a truck and his power is demonstrated by enduring the eons in the cave and still being able to get up and kick ass.

>>122241867
>They do nothing to resolve the paradox
There is no paradox. You killed a boss so he fell over and died. It's a Souls game so you got a Boss Soul for killing him. Descriptions for TLG tells you what happened in actuality. It's just about gameplay and mechanics coming before story.
>So that very item description contradicts itself
Wow, you're dumb.
> Furthermore, if the Giant Lord died in the past, there's no way that it still has a soul when you fight him as the Last Giant
Except that it worked that way. So you're wrong and you're going to have to swallow your autism.
> However, if he survived, then there's no way you could have gotten the Giant Lord Soul
It's a game. Deal with it. You're valuing your own autism above obvious plot hints in item descriptions.
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>>122242018
that looks pretty similar to the Beast Cleaver that's going to be in the DLC, tbqh
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>>122242018
>last second
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>>122242018
>PvP flails
That'd be a nightmare though
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>>122242048
>here's a paradox
>B-BUT THERE'S NO PARADOX SO LONG AS YOU IGNORE THE PARADOX
wew lad
nice literal doublethink
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>>122242181
>There's a paradox if you look at it the wrong way because you're autistic
Yup. That about sums it up.
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>>122242018
>actually, unironically, using the Tonitrus
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>>122242018
I've been wanting flails ever since I played DeS, but with each game, I began to lose hope. I just want to throw around a giant spiked metal ball on a chain, that's all.

Maybe DSIII will be the game?
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>>122242181
You only took part of his essence. That, or the nature of Giant souls is different, which seems to be the case.

For the time travel stuff, stable time loops have been a trope for a long time.
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>>122242048
>you killed a boss
wrong, they literally tell you that he survived
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>>122242295
Tonitrus is fucking great, suck my balls
That damage is on a shitty arc build with no str and terrible gems and it's not even self-buffed
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>>122242402
So that's how Ornstein survived? Why the fuck is Ornstein even in DaS2
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>>122242402
Yes. I know. But it still says "you defeated" or whatever and you're still awarded souls and a boss soul. you killed a boss in the game aspect but in the story, it turns out he didn't quite die.

It's sloppy, but it's how it is. Don't be a shitlicker and pretend like it doesn't make sense or work. Your opinion doesn't hold more value than the writers.
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>>122242467
who fucking knows, people have been complaining about how the Old Dragonslayer makes no sense from day 1
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>>122241962
The skeletons in Huntman's Copse are found in a side cave that you only go through to unlock a shortcut. The main path leads directly to the boss and, if you're good enough, there's a chance you won't even meet those skeletons. The entrance to the boss arena is just a gate hidden behind a waterfall.

For the Executioner, it's boss arena is the first thing you see when you enter the zone (beside the bonfire). When you see it, the first reflex you have as a new player is ''this is where I have to go''. Plus, the general enemies in the area are bandits, those big guys with scythes and (in the side area) the torturers who drop Cracked Red Eye orbs. Plus, for such a small zone, you get invaded twice (in SotFS) by the Forlorn and the Merciless and both invaders use scythes. With the big guys, that's a lot of scythes, the weapon the guy on the horse (a torturer or bandit?) uses against you to hit you when you hide behind the walls. And in that boss fight, you also have those necromancers with the skeletons.

I don't know, to me the Executioner feels more like the boss for that area than the Skeleton Lords.
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>>122242510
It would have been neat if they didn't give you a boss soul for killing him, only the bonus souls and the Kinship. It's not like doing so wouldn't have precedent, plenty of bosses in DaS1 don't reward you with a unique soul upon killing them. An easy solution to the problem
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>>122242660
>It would have been neat if they didn't give you a boss soul for killing him
I guess, but that might be weak too. You kill the king of the giants in an epic battle on a castle wall under siege and get a recycled soul at the end? There's no winning.
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>>122242048
>no, because the similarity of the movesets is strength. You're supposed to think to yourself how this feels like you're fighting the Last Giant again. The first boss is also ones of the last bosses. It's neat.
What I mean is there could have been a difference in the style of like between the hollowed Gwyn that you fight at the end of DaS (Last Giant) and the fully-powered Gwyn (Giant Lord). Obviously, the hollowed Gwyn doesn't use most of his powers, while the fully-powered Gwyn would use more lightning attacks and have a more refined set of attacks. But the main difference between the Last Giant and the Giant Lord fight is just the damage.
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>>122242592
I was pretty butthurt about how much lore they secluded away in guidebooks and shit for SotFS. Suck my dick, FROM, I'm not paying shitloads of extra dosh for a few paragraphs of text, I can go on the fucking wiki for that. It wouldn't be fucking hard to just throw it in-game, either
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>>122241104
>black knights
>easy to deal with
>man serpents
>easy to deal with
>npcs
>easy to deal with
>hollow characters (prince ricard, havel, forest clan, etc)
>easy to deal with
>invaders
>easy to deal with
>darkwraiths
>easy to deal with

All of these are only easy to deal with because of parrying and backstabbing you dumbass.
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>>122242846
Or, the soul of the Last Giant that you grab would make some mention of it being "feeble embers of a much greater Soul that was stolen," or something like that. And then, once you get the proper Giant Lord soul, it would have some metal-as-fuck description about your character ripping the Giant Lord's soul out of his body to get at the Kinship, leaving only fragments behind
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>>122242592
Little correction: the Forlorn invader in Huntman's Copse uses the Greatsword instead of the Scythe.
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>>122242434
Holy Moonlight Blade soon
>implying that it won't have Greatsword of Artorias scaling to show how big of a badass Ludwig was
Rev up those 24/18/20/20 builds, good Hunters, and get set for C/C/B/B STR/SKL/BLT/ARC scaling
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>>122241279
How the fuck would the giant know you attacked him, when you didn't actually go in the past and you were just in some giant's memory?

Are you fucking retarded? Are all ds2 kids this ignorant about their own game?
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>>122243370
Because you DID go to the past. TLG's description proves it.
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>>122243370
>he hasn't realized that you're actually time-traveling with the memories as a medium
Kos, grant this anon eyes
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>>122243421
>>122243484
Literally 3 days ago 6-7 people were saying there was no paradoxes in ds2 because you didn't actually time travel. People raved on about it for fucking hours defending their game.

So which is it? And how would you take the soul of a giant you already took the soul from?
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>>122243005
>Spears
>Great weapons
>Ultra weapons
>Magic

I guess they're just easy to deal with if you're using anything as any build, bro
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daily reminder to donate to vaati's patreon.
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>>122243593
>literally 3 days ago blah blah blah
>implying that I was one of those people
whoever was making the claim that you don't time travel is an idiot, since TLG and Giant Lord descriptions clearly say that you did.

No, it doesn't make sense that you get 2 souls from him, one in the past, 1 in the future, and it's a legitimate paradox that only goes away if you excuse it by saying that grabbing the soul was a pure gameplay mechanic with no lore significance
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>>122243829
So it's ok as long as you excuse poor game making? Thanks b-team!
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>>122243961
I never said it was okay, I said it was the only possible way to excuse it if you were so inclined
>butthurt anon in charge of reading comprehension
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>>122244079
Oh, I thought you were the guy who was posting the "hurr durr if you point out a gameplay mistake you are le autist, stop having autism and talking about lore/story/paradoxes you butthurt autist!!!"
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>>122244986
i am not
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shield stability should be tied to STR

Think about it: If someone like the Taurus Demon swings a weapon the size of a car at you, if you're a twinky fuccboi, putting a thin piece of wood/metal in between you and the incoming 2000 lb hunk of death won't do much -- you'll just be flattened by the shield pressing against your body as the power of the strike overwhelms you.

You need STR to actually block a blow, END isn't the right measure for this
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>>122245395
What about the other stats? Dex, Int, Fth, what kind of guage would they increase?
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>>122125553

Screw you for making me feel bad about attempting to cheat and spending the last day finishing this. But I guess you were right.
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Anyone here play DaS3's various demos?

Is shield blocking instant in 3? There was long frame delay in 2.
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>>122122119
rollin'
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>>122203605
well of course you're able to block phantom range. Shields don't just suddenly not work.
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>>122246445

DEX: already governs spell cast speed, should also govern consumable use speed and weapon swap speed

FAI/INT: not much unless you want to add in some sort of charisma / merchant discount mechanic
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>>122180973
Mascot set of DaS2 should be Alva set
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>>122248085
>spell cast speed
not in ds2
>consumable use speed
what is agility
>weapon swap speed
so useful, so basically you want to get a buff for yourself str baby
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>>122248302
>ds2
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>>122248792
>anime
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>STR
Weapon and Shield Stability
Weapon Physical Block (minor)
Durability damage
Vastly increased stamina damage to shields
Bow / crossbow draw speed
>DEX
Weapon swap and two-hand speed
Status effects
Weakness exploitation (more thrust damage against thrust weak enemy, etc)
Consumable attack speed
Bow / crossbow aiming ability
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>>122248962
>being on a website made solely for the purpose of discussing anime based off a japanese site now owned by a japanese otaku and hating anime
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>>122248962
>disliking something that you havent tried
>being this much of a philistinical shitstain
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>>122249027
>a website made solely for the purpose of discussing anime
>that's what weeabos believe
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>>122249198
Well, originally it was made purely for anime and weeb stuff, but that was just the original setup, before they added 90% of boards
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>>122242467
It makes no sense but you could figure that the statues of ornstein were replicated as his weapons/armor

still retarded copy paste
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>>122249027
>>122249490
Daily reminder that /a/ was the 9th board created.
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>trying to pvp in das2
>everything is laggy as fuck, enemies appear to be attacking nothing on the other side of the room, I'm getting hit
>get killed, get death message but i'm still staring at the screen where i was for like another minute, audio lagging and i'm hearing my death over and over again
>run a speedtest, 26mpbs down, 15mbps up

what the fuck
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>>122242467

You guys are arguing pointlessly. Much like with a bunch of hit Hollywood movies, the story of 1 was never designed to be expanded upon. So naturally the result is some shitty tacked on story in the same universe but a different time and place.
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>>122249910

Bandwidth has nothing to do with latency.
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>>122250023
thats not true
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>>122250023
oh, my ping was 28, forgot that.
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>>122250113

>hurr why does it take so long to get the water from a fountain 10 miles away I have a huge bucket!

idiot
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>>122250158

Your ping was 28 to the nearest server that speed testers pick. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? You obviously invaded or got invaded by some guy across the world.
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>>122250234
when you have to make multiple trips it does.
how about you stop using bullshit metaphors for technical things and actually leran to understand them instead of limiting your understanding in favour of a cushy casualised analogy.
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>>122250332
I don't have regional play enabled, I live on the US east coast, what's the furthest away that someone could be that I'd play against, commiefornia or washington?

>speedtest to washington, 100 ping, same bandwidth
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>>122250580

several trips? do you think this is 1996 when bandwidth actually had an impact on that? and this fucking idiot tries to lecture me on knowledge
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>>122250692
*cross-regional play
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>>122249690
what was the second one?
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>>122250754
who are you talking to? not me because you referred to me in the third person.

do you think there is somehow an audience of a thousand people ready to aplaud at you insulting an anonymous stranger. how fucking insecure can you be to have a petulant fantasy like that.

no-one cares, not even me. you shouldnt either.
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>>122250875
/h/, then /d/ and /c/, then /y/, then /s/ and /g/ (which was guro, now technology), then /l/ (lolikon) and then /a/.

/l/ and /a/ were created because too much loli on /c/ and /h/, and /c/ was full of offtopic anime discussion and spergs sperging out about shows.
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>>122251062

hahaha you are beyond pathetic
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Why doesn't Steam automatically back up my save data? I just got a new laptop and it doesn't have ANY save data from my 100 hours of game time on the last laptop.
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>>122251427
DS has cloud saves, DS2 doesn't.
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>>122251515

YET ANOTHER REASON WHY 1 IS KING
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>>122251515
yeah that shit's retarded, and copy/pasting your character data in das2 from one pc to another is a pain.
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>>122252661
Not only is it a pain, it also has a chance to get you softbanned.
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>>122251515
but I"m on Dark Souls 1 not 2
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>>122252693
I still don't know why From doesn't add the option of backing up save data, or at least make it so that just transferring the data files doesn't put yu in any kind of stupid risks.
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>>122252845
Then are you sure you enabled cloud saves for dark souls 1 on Steam when using your other laptop?
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>>122252925
no, guess I'll have to boot the broken thing up and check.
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>>122253020
Yeah, you should do that.
Get it enabled and play a little so the game saves, when you exit it'll go on the cloud automatically.
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>>122108568
anyone need help at capra?

i want some sunlight medals
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>>122254221
your best bet is to put your sign down for gargoyles
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So are the DaS1 Warpick and Pickaxe really that bad?
I remember reading bad things about them but they seem pretty standard aside from the nerfed poise damage
The pickaxe in particular looks neat since it has good strength scaling
I might do a novelty miner/smith character with it since you can grind the boulder barbarians for one immediately with a new character
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>>122254221
pretty fucking dumb decision desu mate.

1. no-one needs help with capra
2. you didnt mention soul level.
3. you didnt mention which system
4. better to go to oands or a more popular fight. capra is even optional.
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>>122254674
warpick is a pretty good weapon.
it has great counter damage
it can really stack up the damage quick
poise break is good
works with the leo ring.

downsides:
has whiff animation
relatively short range

i like it.
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>>122254221

do this >>122254581

it's where I got most bites
put it down after the first ladder a bit to the left

that or S&O and put your sign before the stairs
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speaking of summons

what is the best and worst boss to summon a phantom for?

I think gaping is pretty bad because of how much health he has. The best is probably S&O since you get to focus on a single enemy.
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>>122255034
>Worst
Gwyn, although I will say it's really fun.
>Best
Orange Juice and Soda
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>>122255034
>I think gaping is pretty bad because of how much health he has
Gaping is one of the best for that very reason, imo
It's easy to avoid damage from it, and it has enough HP that it doesn't die immediately, so you actually get some fun time to dick around with your summon buddy
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Can I still invade as a grey spirit into belfry luna if I've also got my summon sign down in front of the sentinels?
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>>122254221
Gargs, Gaping, O&S are usually the big summon sites in my experience
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what's the best (non-shield) weapon in DaS1 for 2-handed guarding?
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>>122256285
Any UGS.
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>>122256285
bonewheel shield
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best waifu
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>>122257442
its rhea though
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>>122258076
nah brah
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>>122258701
you're wrong though
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>>122257442
>>122258076
>>122258701
your both wrong
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>>122258840
But anon, Ciaran is a male name.
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>>122258840
there are lots of opinions but only mine is correct
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>>122259026
She is the only female in The four knoghts of Gwyn do you even lore?
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What's the best boss to help out for sun medals? The falconers aren't dropping them enough for me.
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>>122259026
The description from her armor

>A robe common to all of the Lord's Blades,
These deadly women shift nimbly between layers of darkness,
etching streaks of gold into the night air, and planting visions of
terror into the minds of their targets.
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>>122259178
congregation
in front of nashandra (because its two bosses)
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rapiers are so fucking easymode for pvp in sotfs

>try my hand at invading as grey phantom in luna
>get wrecked repeatedly, last of which times was by a guy using a rapier
>decide to give it a try
>have only lost 1 out of maybe 15 fights since
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>tfw cant kill quelaag
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>>122259885
SL? Platform?
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>>122259987
26
pc
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>>122260069
I gotcha.
Steam ID?
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>>122260169
/id/aeris777
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>>122117381
Roll a new character as a wanderer or knight with the Old Witch's Ring. For stats, pump Vitality, Endurance, and Strength or Dex (depending on your favorite weapon, which is up to you.) Don't glance at a guide, and don't come back here. You'll have a good experience. Remember to upgrade your weapons.
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I play DaS2 all the time for hours on end, i rage like shit when i get parried and killed, i celebrate like im the champ when i beat some scrub, why do you guys take this shit all so seriously? the game is dope and addictive, but you all are such autist fags about it it's really remarkable. ive played over 800 hours and can't even understand what the hell you all are abbreviating half the fucking time. this game is no different from any other video game. stop being lames.
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>>122214221
As usual, everything in the DLC is stupidly resistant to all elements, but otherwise all the magics are good. Pyromancies are the most fun and easiest to tack onto any build, but they also have the fewest casts, longest cast times, and are hampered by multi-slot spells and an abundance of fire resistant enemies even before the DLC. But to be fair, literally anyone with some ATT can use Pyromancies effectively (The Int+Fth scaling is minimal.)
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>>122216664
The netcode was shit, but at least the hitboxes were better, and that's honestly more frustrating, since the netcode in DS2 is no GGPO either.
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>shrine of amana on ng+
>like 8 archdrake dudes all agro at once right before the first fog gate
this is hard what the fuck. how do i cheese this?
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>>122260794
Poison arrows.
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>>122260794
Wide swinging weapon, or a bow.
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>>122260794
walk slowly to the point where they all run at you, before this eat a green blossom if you dont have a lot of stamina, than run away to the stairs and pick one off with a throwing knife, than the other two can be done in one at a time, kill the healer maybe too
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which is more faggy for pvp, katana or straight sword
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>>122258840
>>122258701
>>122258076
>>122257442
all of you confirmed for shit taste
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Why does PvP watchdog prevent the use of recording software
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What's a good mob to farm in NG DS1? I really don't want to go to NG+ but I want to get to 120.
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>>122261049
Katana
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>>122261049
katana

>>122261121
Phalanx in Painted World
Or just dupe Manus's soul
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>>122122119
Rolling time. Fuckyeah
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>>122261147
who here can beat rolandgravino74 consistently in pvp? if so can you share secrets (other than the obligatory git gud) senpai desu?
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>>122261121
Phalanx are fantastic grinding
Wrath of the Gods is the ideal method if you have faith
Otherwise, use pyromancy. Firestorm to kill off most of them, then Great Fireball to pick off the survivors.

If you're talking pure melee though they aren't very efficient. I dunno what to do for that.
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>>122122119
sorry, not trying to be above this shit, but what is this trying to convey? the whole pic confuses me :(
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>>122261176
Damn, phalanx is a pain in the dick, well most mobs are actually. Thanks b-bows!
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Is the Chaos Rapier any good? I'm playing a mostly pyromancer and I don't know what to use. Right now have have 40 DEX, 25 INT&FTH, enough ADP for 100 Agility, and the rest in HP and Stamina. I'm using Flynn and Leo like a tool and wish I could be great cleaving my way through mobs instead. Maybe I'll Soul Vessel and respec Strength.
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>>122260901
>>122260916
Tfw trying to snipe but the mages don't even render until I'm within their agro range on povertystation 3
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>>122261386
oh you're that guy
yeah you're fucked
i can't think of anything that could be done even remotely efficiently with only bows

how long does it take for you to kill silver knights or sentinels in Anor Londo?
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>>122261664
Silver knights are pretty easy, usually 2-3 hits. The giants though take a fair bit and if I aggro them they can be annoying due to their huge shields so I usually get out of aggro range and pelt them with like 7-10 arrows to kill them.

I guess I should just kill gwyn and end the run. Not like I'm gonna have any "fun" pvp on this build anyways.
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This is going to be a long shot, but

Does anyone have a save file/mule for Dark Souls 2 with the three DLCs, but not the SotFS version?
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>>122261793
You could do actual invasions rather than duels
Might be fun sniping people down
Dunno what areas are active at your SL range, though
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>>122261839
wait so glass knight is a meme build? so any part of that set is lame? well shit...
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>>122122119
Hopefully something fun
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>>122122119
Also rolling
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>>122261418
its pretty good, farm if you want, but estoc, toothpick op rapier, ricards rapier, and espada are better, but try it out. i dont know your build
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Does Watchdog make it easier to connect to people, or only show you how many people you're connected to? I swear every time I remove it it takes 50 min to connect to a friend.
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695th for Quelaag being BTFO by Shrek
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696th for suave
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Does Magic Adjustment matter if the only miracle I'm using is Replenishment? Does having 40-45 DEX increase its cast speed?
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>>122264126
Replenishment doesn't scale with MagAdjust
Dexterity doesn't increase cast speed for buffs or heals, only offensive spells

If you're only using Replenishment then you need 16 faith but the talisman and stats don't matter at all
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>>122262393
Unless europa has some hidden features in watchdog,
>inb4 bitcoin miner
it only shows nodes, but doesn't help you connect to them.
>>
Reminder that if you just kite back and flip and strafe around me, you WILL be pivot hornet stabbed. I'm not going to spend a fucking hour trying to hit you because you're too pussy to swing your weapon and fight normally.
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>>122266279
what the fuck is the pivot hornet?
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>>122266609
think he means pivoting around the enemy fishing for back stabs with hornets ring equipped
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>get the Stray Demon's slab
>Darkwraith drops me a slab
>invaded host drops me 2 slabs
>get Kalameet's Slab
>will most likely fuck up Siegmeyer's questline again
gg
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>>122267546
I managed to finish Siegmeyer's questline for the first time today. Was pretty satisfying.
Why does Siegmeyer end up hollowing, and in Ash Lake of all places?
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>>122267663
>Why does Siegmeyer end up hollowing
He doesn't
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>>122267843
Doesn't Sieglinde say she had to kill him after he hollowed in Ash Lake?
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>>122267983
i think anon is implying foul play and deciet
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What's the shortest catalyst in Dark Souls 1? Can't use the rings from 2 to hide it, and the catalysts are really out of place on my Future Trunks cosplay
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>>122267983
>>122268062
SIGMEIYER DINDU NUTTIN.
IT WAS MOIDA I TELL YA.
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>need to coop to dual
>need red eye orbs to invade
>orbs cost 10000 souls each
>sm is a thing
this covenant is horrible. what was wrong with reusable orbs?
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>>122268181
>red
i mean blue
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>>122268116
Witchtree branch I suppose

>>122268181
This is the only reason I ever use CE. I never cheat in any game, but having to spend hard earned souls or fight and miraculously win in the shitty laggy Arena for a single cracked red eye orb is fucking stupid. I don't condone cheating in any other form, but anon it really is best to just CE your orbs in.
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>>122266279
get off it dude
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should i kill maughlin?
i'm not going to use any of his gear and i need his gear for extra souls
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>>122268458
Just spend 15k on nothing in his shop so you don't end up regretting it later then kill him
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>>122268458
if you are sure you wont need his armour sets then sure. its a good decision.
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>>122268307
martyrsbrigade?
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Is Parish still active at SL 1 - 15?

Been a while since I last played.
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>>122271905
It's pretty dead sometimes
During peak hours it's still active though
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ages ago i watched a video about a guy doing a comic impression of jblackmel. i dont remember the uploader. does anyone know it?
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>>122108568
So there were fan made shield designs for dks 1 and 2, will from do something similar for 3?
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>>122272738
no
Dark Souls 3 will have 4 shields, 2 crossbows, and 9 melee weapons
It's okay though because it'll have "improved combat"
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>>122255516
who the fuck summons for gaping? he is easily beatable at any level with any equipment, provided you have killed the channeler. summoning makes him much more unpredictable
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>>122273358
Isn't that a good thing
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>>122272904
Why spread lies? It's going to have the same number as DaS2, Miyazaki has stated this.
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>>122273507
but anon, i'm just want to progress through the game, not have fun
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NO here, got invaded by some XxDarkCuntxX in the Parish. If you're here, just want you to know you killed a SL 15 actual noob farming for Balder gear. Glad I could help you.
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>>122273879
NG*
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Can someone post a guide how to unlock dark wraith and keep low sl
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>>122274942
>go to forest
>kill sif
>go to new londo
>kill ingward
>kill 4kings
shoop da whoop
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Truly I am a master at building characters.

>>122274942
Step 1. Level up until the level you want to then stop
Step 2. Play the game until you come upon the Four Kings
Step 2.5 If in possession of lord vessel, hold onto it.
Step 3. Beat the Four Kings
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>>122249025
>crossbow/aiming ability
why else do you think that bows have such high DEX scaling?
>>
0-1=continue playing spellblade
2-3=try to get activity on bellbonger
4-5=create new character
6-7=try to get activity on 3m coop build
8-9=play gta
>>
When I see some tryhard wearing Havel's I Black Crystal out
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>>122274942
There is a guide of a guy using piromancy to be darkwraith lvl 1 on youtube.
>>
what's the best starting gift for DaS1? A friend asked me to coach him through his first run of DaS1, and I'm not having him pick the Master Key because sequence breaking. I was thinking about the Old Witches' Ring, for the Chaos Covenant
>>
>>122276296
Tiny Being's Ring or Black Fire Bombs if he's going Strength. But maybe not even that, he needs to fight the a.demon on his own
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>>122276361
>tiny being's ring
does the +5% HP make any difference at all?
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>>122276408
nope, at 50VIT it only gives 75hp
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>>122276408
No, though maybe he'd survive some fights with a sliver of health and win. It's more of a thought for the player, makes them feel more comfortable than a consumable that they aren't sure the value of yet
>>
>>122276296
>coaching over first run
So you'll kill all the fun for your friend?
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>>122276408
No it´s pretty crappy
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>>122276591
I know how to make the coaching spoiler-free, I'm not Pat. Give me some credit. I know exactly where to leave him hanging and let him suffer for his mistakes -- the coaching is just to explain things like weapon upgrades and scaling, which trip up most players at the start. Besides, have you ever tried coaching someone, it's fun as fuck
>>122276570
That sense of ease only lasts until you take the ring off and realize how little of a difference it made
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i keep invading some dome in belfry sol that always gets one shot by the greatsword npc phantom
i mean i appreciate the free chunks but how are you that bad at the game
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>>122276815
I mean, I think the ring will work fine for someone new to the game, just my opinion though but I don't feel like consumables are worth grabbing, pendant is pendant and binoculars can be grabbed super early.
But whatever you or your friend will feel is best if you're not going master key.
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god what hapopened with this general
why is this so shit now
it feels like i am on 9gag dark souls edition
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>>122277291
newfags ruined this site
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>>122277291
i personally prefer shitting on generals rather than posting in them when things are relative to my interests.
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does this thing open any time? looks like the door to the kiln
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>>122277749
>>122277754
you guys noticed that this horrible posters are das2 fans right? i don't hate the game, now that i understand why it ended like that, but
miyazaki general when
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>>122278040
>das2 fans right?
like the 4fags fag for example
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>>122277996
brain why
>120 seconds to post again
what the fuck?
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>>122278120
cut
content
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>>122278040
hidetaka general
bloodborne des and das1

talking about miyazaki's directorial style
talking about why he is so amazing
talking about that bit with the undead dragon and the maggots
banning discussion about das2 and tanimura
talking about how we would probably suck miyazaki off if he asked us.

sounds amazing. im in.
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>>122278108
probably a das2 player

>>122278120
>>122278178
this, lost izalith is like a piece of dark souls 2 in dark souls 1, ds2 is full of useless doors and blocked paths that

>>122278313
did you know that the guy that originally was designing the undead dragon made him full of maggots?
but miyazaki said that's not how it should be, that it should be a noble creature
miyazaki is god confirmed
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>>122278313
reminder that Tanimura did nothing wrong, he was handed a shitty situation and made the best he could out of it. The DLCs for DaS2 show that he's capable of making acceptable content when he isn't shackled by the mistakes of his predecessors
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>>122278390
he is though.

legitimate question. if miyazaki asked you to perform oral sex on him would you?

if no, what if he said that das3 wouldnt be released unless you did.
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>>122278459
yeah i know i know. tanamura is a very talented producer. hes just not miyazaki you know

miyazaki is one of the first real genius's of the video game art form.
>>
>>122278514
what if i dont care about ds3 because it looks like a copy of bloodborne
>>
>>122278313
better than
>talking about ds2 bugs vs ds1 bugs
>inb4 ds2 have better gameplay
>posts bug webm
>inb4 ds1 is perfect
>post bug webm
>flame war forever
>more webms forever
>>
>there are people who actually think that DaS2 is the better game because "muh arena PvP"
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>>122278628
Switch with someone who likes dick.
Or DS3.
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>>122278628
well meme'd
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>>122278975
epic callout friendo. you sure showed him.
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das3 have the same monster style(weirdo and giant abominations) same lighting, almost same BB light armor, etc.
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>>122279232
i dont mind
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>>122279232
Still better than that Fallout game where your son is the villain
>>
>>122279341
do people who do this think they are cool? it's like the new rick roll, only stupider
>>
>>122279621
To be quite honest family, I had it spoiled for me and am just spreading the love.
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>>122279279
I mind, i don't liked bloodborne, and all npcs die or go crazy, i hated that, it's not worth liking a npc because you know he is going to die or attack you, in des and das1 a lot of npcs survive, in BB in 90% of the cases it's better kill the non hostiles npcs when you first meet them than doing the quests and killing them at the ending when they are 10 times stronger and drop the same things.

also the giant enemies sucks, you feel like a dwarf in the entire game. There was big enemies in das but every undead had about your size.
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>>122279819
>npcs survive
Quite a few survive in BB too, you are either underestimate the amount of NPCs that eat shit in DaS or overestimating the amount who die in BB
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>>122279958
being alive and insane like iosefka or that woman that had a demon baby don't count as surviving to me.

npcs that can keep alive in das:
griggs
rhea
laurentius
petrus(but i kill him)
patches
andre
Giant Blacksmith
Rickert of Vinheim
Vamos
Anastacia of Astora
Crestfallen Merchant
Domnhal of zena
Dusk of Oolacile
Eingyi
Elizabeth
Hawkeye Gough(that dies/disappear in the future but in the dlc you can speak with him forever)
Ingward
darkmoon knightess
Marvellous Chester
Oswald of Carim
Quelana of Izalith(that disappear, we dont know what is going on with her but its not a death i guess)
Undead Merchant (Female)
Undead Merchant (Male)
Dark Sun Gwyndolin
Alvina
Solaire can be ''saved''
Sieglinde, ends shitty but survives
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>>122280297
Like in DS1, depending on your choices you can keep most BB NPCs alive.
>... don't count as surviving to me.
Ok.
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>>122280521
every npc i said there was SANE, different than everyone in bloodborne.
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>>122261418
Update: I beat the dragon in the Sunken DLC with the Chaos Blade and Flame Weapon, so it can't be all bad. I just upgraded a Longsword to +10, though, and I have the sneaking suspicion that it's going to trounce the Chaos Blade in the other DLC's (especially the Brume Tower) not only because of dealing more physical damage, but also because it seems to have a better moveset and deal more poise damage.

I'm kind of sick of the rapier's awful hitbox and the fact that FromSoft treats them as short-ranged spears. They should really have a) no shieldpoke, and b) lots of in-and-out moves to emulate a fencer's footwork. Like half of DS2, I think DS1 did it better: I remember using the mailbreaker to navigate Sen's Funhouse on my Iron Flesh'd fatass invader just because it would let me move forward through traps quickly.
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>>122281104
Up until NG+ powerstanced blacksteel katans strong attack will 1 shot most enemies that don't have absurdly large HP pools, buuut its heavy as shit so you either have to take vit or get used to getting rid of one for cases when you need to roll, but for a normal NG cycle it really is the easiest possible approach for PvEing

Also if you are not getting enough poise damage on rapiers then
1) Talk to castlekeeperghost with the "talk" option after killing the giant lord in his memory to get a better version of the rapier
2) Go back to things betwix, go to the hut, go back through the door you used to first get inside and head right, kill the ogre and claim your +poise damage on hit ring
3) For the love of god 2hand rapiers, rapier + shield is the most useless shit while 2 handed rapier strong attack will stagger almost every enemy that can be staggered, quite a few get rekt by the light attack too
4) Remember that Sunken enemies have far higher poise than most normal enemies in the game, if you can't break their poise don't take it too badly, they are special snowflakes like that
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>>122280667
Well, BB happens in lovecraftian nightmare worlds filled with insanity. It's the setting.
So let's just say you can keep most BB NPCs physically alive and some sane.
Not sure why you picked Arianna (whore with monster baby) as an example of someone who doesn't count since she's not exactly insane just not that happy about the outcome which isn't surprising after she gave birth to alien slug thing.
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>>122281970
yea and i dont like that and i dont want ds3 to be like this.


>>122281970
Not sure why you picked Arianna (whore with monster baby) as an example of someone who doesn't count since she's not exactly insane just not that happy about the outcome which isn't surprising after she gave birth to alien slug thing.

>not that happy
>her only dialogue is histeric laughs
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>>122281779
Yeah I had been using the Stone Ring quite a bit--I started as a Sorcerer and it made things easier, but I got bored of spamming Great Heavy Soul Arrow and decided to respec into a more melee centric build with some pyromancy. My initial build was 30/50/50 Fth/Att/Int with Black Witch's Staff main hand and Pyro Flame offhand. I would invade and cast numerous different spells. It was really fun, but not very effective for PvE, and I'm playing through the DLC for the first time so that's an issue.

I didn't realize the 2HR2 rapier poke staggered--thanks for that. I might try out the Espada, but, as I said, the thrust hitbox is kind of irking me anyway, even if stacking RoB-Flynn-Leo is probably worth the annoyance. I guess I can always swap between cleaving mobs and poking big bads.

Speaking of RoB, who do I have to kill to Ascetic the King's Gate bonfire and get RoB+2? Nashandra?
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>>122282328
>Nashandra
Think so but I honestly have never tried post SotFS so you MIGHT have to kill aldia too but I kind a doubt it
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new thread

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>>122255364

I don't think you're aware that phantoms increase the boss HP by a percentage. Summoning Solaire and Lautrec for gaping is pretty much the worst thing you can do since they will both die before she even gets to half health.
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>>122229731
someone was losing a fight I hosted once so they one shotted me with a hex
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