World of Warcraft General - /wowg/

>Backstab
>Stab the target, causing moderate Physical damage. Damage increased by 30% when behind your target. Awards 1 combo point.
>when behind your target
Holy fuck, I can solo as sub now. I don't even particularly like Sub, but this was so fucking annoying.

every single class blog has been posted, and every artifact weapon has been revealed.

now that you know how your class will look in legion, what are you going to play as on launch day?

will the subtlety decoy be invincible? what if you gain stealth, your decoy dies and you drop combat because of it

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xth for crying shamans (and forums)

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>>122090080
Druid, like I did in TBC, WotLK, Cata, Panda and WoD.
>tfw reputation autist and can't reroll because of removed reputations that I have at exalted

>Most rogues train their entire lives to learn how to walk in the shadows—subtlety rogues were born there.

So subtlety rogues are Bane?

>Tfw all I need to get Draenor flying is "The Pit"
>Its been 5 days now

Jesus Blizz I will buy the mission for 2k Garrison Resources place I just want flying

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>>122090080
my belf male destruction warlock of course :3c

>>122090080
Rogue. I was so on the fence, but leaning towards Hunter til I saw this. And I swore I wouldn't be melee this expansion.

Brewmaster alt because I like tanking in my off time and I think they have the potential for fun class quests.

So for those who play rogues, how does Assassination look?

>>122090047
That's good fucking news
So sick of spamming hemo for combo points, feels like whirlwinding on a arms warrior
Just shitty damage and dumb

>>122090126
WHERE did you get that image from?

>>122090227
bretty alright I guess

no major changes that we can see from this tiny preview except garrote instead of dispatch (which is huge, don't get me wrong, fuck dispatch)

>>122090419
lol its a realmpop chart

>>122090080
>now that you know how your class will look in legion, what are you going to play as on launch day?

I'll wait the end of beta to decide, right now these class preview are a good way to see what the class are "supposed" to play but there will be a huge gap between that nad how they will end at the beginning of Legion.

I main lock and have a rogue alt and may switch them around in Legion though.

>>122090227
Hasn't changed since wotlk

Xth for back to vanilla main class.
ROGUE
O
G
U
E

WITCHHUNTER spec is go.

>>122090080
Rogue like usual.
Maybe mage alt, inferno blast during a cast sounds smooth as fuck.

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Daily reminder that russian scum should be shot on sight!

>>122090080
Going back to maining Disc Priest (Hopefully can do decent DPS for soloing) with a side of Fury Warrior

>>122090080

Don't know if I want to stay lock since Demo is actually about demons again, or give frost mage a shot since I have always wanted frost to be a PvE spec, yet never played them when they became one.

>>122090227
More bleeds, venomous wounds now granting energy for said bleeds and BC mutilate, its about the same except you got another bleed to keep up, and you won't run dry too often

>>122090672
>demo is actually about demons again
I love this meme. cata/mop/wod demonology was more about demons than it ever were.

>>122090849
In a manner of speaking I guess

>>122090849
Meta is shit

Back to mmo-champion.com

>>122090706
i hope they still have crimson tempest. with current assassin you reach a point where you have infinite energy and high damage when doing aoe. but the ramp up time is way too much.

>>122090849
nope, your a meme

demon dmg % has been moving more and more from the demon to the lock since WoTlk

>>122090849

It was about metamorphosis. The only thing about demons was wild imps, that's it.

>>122090935
>with current assassin you reach a point where you have infinite energy and high damage when doing aoe

I feel like even discounting the ramp-up time the AoE is lackluster compared to sub (and obviously combat)

I wonder if they intended for that, and if it will remain in Legion

If I roll rogue will it be hard to get in groups or a guild since it's only role is damage dealer?

>>122091203
>yes
>not if you keep logs like any decent human being

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Artifacts were a terrible idea, & will make players feel more overburdened with tasks than usual.

>>122090919
you a shit
how can you can more demonic than becoming a demon yourself as a result of dabbling with demonic energies
>>122090954
we're not talking about damage here, we're talking about the fantasy setting
>>122090984
keywords 'than it ever were'
tbc/wotlk demonology demonic supremacy was to be able to command a felguard. it's silly to say that demonology has strafed from it's original fantasy with all the demons demonic powers it has been given since then

>>122091203
Guilds rarely have recruit people for multiple roles.

>>122091302
I feel like it was thrown in simply because somebody came up with it, it seemed new, and they needed to try SOMETHING that seemed even remotely cool to draw people back.

>>122091302
>overburdened with tasks
It's like you haven't played WoD.

>>122091302
>fuck you blizzard, there's nothing to do in WoD
>wow slow down, assholes, this is too much to do

>>122090672
I mained Frost in WoD. It's a very simple spec that is surprisingly not boring. You should try one now since they're very easy to pick up and are only getting one major change in Legion (which is a buff). My problem with the Mage is the reliance on talents like Rune of Power and Prismatic Cystal which feel really clunky and annoying to use.

>>122091309
>fantasy setting of demon controller is becoming a demon, and not actually controlling demons
ur dumb and please fuck off from my class
go play DH faggot

>subs decreasing
>quality porn decreasing

Any other degenerates holding out hope for Legion?

>>122091302
>overburdened with tasks
i'm actually kinda worried about this, the reason wod sucked was because >forced to play facebook minigames
if artifact quest line sucks as well or tells you to do meme shit like collect 50000000 fragments of demon pussy that drops 666 per week i don't think i can handle it

>>122091302
they said your artifact will take a few months into legion to be fully upgraded.

>they said a few months because they thought everyone was a casual shitter who plays 1 hour a day, your artifact will be fully upgraded in a week
>it really will take a few months, and you'll need to do it for every spec / class you want to main
>there will be a weekly cap to stop you from having to grind 24/7, so you'll have to play an alt for 4 months before you can main it

>>122091467
kek, I bet you want the DH ability demonic sacrifice to stay with warlocks as well

>>122091421

Frostbolt having a chance to reset the CD of Frozen Orb seems pretty rad. My main problem is the lack of movement on mages, but I also play a lock in a world where fel flame was removed.

>>122091302
The only way it'll be bad is if the artifact specific quests are implemented boringly. If we get something like this:

Outlaw: Go board this ship, steal all the loot, and escape before it explodes.
Assassination: Infiltrate this demon base, assassinate this target, then find out who he's working for

It'll be engaging and fun. However there's a chance that it could look like this:

Outlaw: Kill 20 demons
Asassination: Kill 20 demons

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>>122091519

I think that is how it's going to be. From what i saw each zone will have like 4+ bonus objectives daily, many of which can boost your weapon.

It's going to be a grindfest, playing alts is going to suck.

>>122091648
Judging from Blizzcon panel screens, it's 20 demons.

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>>122091519
>50000000 fragments of demon pussy that drops 666 per week

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>>122091717
Could be worse. Could be 30 windrocs.

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>>122091584
>My main problem is the lack of movement on mage
http://www.wowhead.com/spell=108839/ice-floes

Mages are one of, if not THE most, mobile caster in the game. Not counting hunters.

>>122091803
Except for KJ's cunning pre-nerf.

Those were dark times.

>>122091584
>lack of movement on mages
firstly
>implying mages lack movement
secondly
>casters being able to move
just play affliction and top meters while 360 noscoping and shitposting on /wowg/

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>>122091534

>Fully upgraded in a week

This is ActiBlizz we're talking about. They'll have content patches preventing Artifacts from reaching their maximum efficiency. At least until 6 months through Legion.

They do it to ensure people subscribe for more than one cycle.

>>122091802
heres
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rofl

>>122091867
Not the guy you're responding to, but I've never played Warlock. What makes Aff so mobile?

>>122091867

Affliction is my least favorite lock spec, so it feels like a pain to play it, but I can't argue that it's good. Fuck blizzard for nerfing Destro and Demo into the ground.

>>122092003
Nothing. It's dots + channeled filler. Not exactly mobile

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>>122092065
Yeah but in the next expac, it's hinted that the channeled filler will be very little damage. Moving won't hurt DPS too much.

>>122091685
REMINDER:
>Blizzard think 20 weeks to max out a single ring is okay after the tedium of earning it in the first place.

Must be fun for druids.

>>122092065
Yeah but you can cast half your rotation on the move :)

>>122091803

Never knew the skill existed, I was mostly thinking about rune destroying mage mobility.

To be honest, I have not played a mage since mid TBC, and really never kept up with them at all.

>>122092003

It's only mobile in the sense that DoTs still tick when you need to move, there is nothing like KJ malefic grasp or fel flame to act like a filler, except casting bane of agony or corruption on the move.

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>Alt Garrison
>Champions Honor mission
>18k worth
>85% success
>Fail
>Entire day ruined

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>>122092003
channeled filler is negligible. i play affli on most single target mobile fights and can make it into top 20% of logs usually

>>122092065
Oh I misread your post. You were saying Aff is easy, not mobile. I think.

>>122092215
Did they fix that method for 100% success?

>>122092215
How shit is your alt garrison, these 6.2 missions are not as demanding as caches.

>>122092154

The ring is an abortion for new players and new alts. It's so commonplace, most groups won't even bring you for raids for lacking a ring, it's the fucking cape all over again. I don't know how the weapons will be graded, but it isn't as apparent as the ring of cape though.

/2 Recruiting DPS for heroic Gul'Dan, must be using Gul'Dan weapon skin or kick.

>>122092209
Rune sucks, but its fairly big and you can have two down at a time. The biggest annoyance is that it only lasts 3 minutes and isn't instant so you gotta replace it a few times per encounter. The upside is that your other talent choice in the Rune tier, Incanter's Flow, is only a minor dps decrease from rune and is completely passive.

Has anyone had any success with 2 day raid week? Fucking real life forcing me to grow up and shoving its dick down my throat i have to move to weekend raid team.

Always been in 3-4 day raid teams since AQ20

Is it still worth it to do gold missions on all 11 alts or is gold gain limited across all server characters?

Please reply

>>122092419

There is success with 2 day raid weeks, but most groups who use that schedule usually do flex exclusively.

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>>122092314

Nah you can still 100%

>>122092328

Its followers aren't bad, Pretty sure i had Garona & Ornok on it both at 675 ilvl.

>>122092419
A 10/13M guild on our realm raids 2 days a week. But they are former server first guild since LK, just real life hit them but they decided to stay together.

>>122092419
My guild does 2 raid days and then there's a third optional day for clean-up. The way HFC is laid out, makes this really easy since we can just skip to Iskaar. What we do now is:
Tuesday: Iskaar - Manno
Thursday: Arch progression
Monday(optional): HFA - Gorefiend

>>122089986
My first impression of seeing this guy was "fucking pink haired feminism betakek about to make one of wows largest mistakes with artifacts"

I like him after his presentation, seems like a cool dude

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>want to level a new character for Legion
>garrisons and getting my ring

>>122092654
Explain to a new player what the process is for getting your garrison to level 3 including the buildings you want and the followers you ideally need. Is it a time thing?

>>122092654
Don't force yourself to do that shit, its not needed for a Legion main. You'll just burn yourself out before the expansion even arrives.

>>122092859

Yeah but how can I get invested in a character to play in Legion if I can't even play them now.

>>122092654
I'd rather catch all the pokemon than do that shit again

>>122092794

You need to get resources, which you mostly need to either wait for the garrison to passively give you, or go out in the world and kill rares. Getting the garrison to level 3 isn't much of a problem as it is doing follower bullshit. Followers can come in several rarities and their skills and traits are all completely random, so it takes forever leveling them to the next rarity and even then you could just get a bunch of followers with fucking awful traits. Then you need to get gear for your followers, which is all timed as well.

Are we gonna get a demon hunter class blog? I dont like not knowing anything about their tank spec.

>>122092923
You can play it, but there's no reason to aim for high-end HFC progression right now. As someone trying to get their 2nd ring and stuck on the 900 runes part, I can confirm it will make you less interested in that character.

>>122092654
>got ring on my rogue alt just because
>rogues look fucking sick in Legion

Well I know what I'm maining.

>Outlaw is literally Combat with epic pirate flavor
>This is their "redesign"

Not sure I like this class fantasy stuff, senpai.

>>122093068

What do you like about the rogue changes?

>>122092654
Why would you do the ring again? There is no worse hell

>>122093003
probably some cakewalk shit like every other tank spec now :^)

>>122090080
not one dk main? liking those uhnoly dk changes

>>122093129

If Legion does have a large timeframe of release and I do want to main whatever I am leveling, I might want to find a raiding guild and get some experience with my class, so I need a ring to get that sorted out.

>>122093113
No dispatch is a godsend. I'll take (what is essentially) rake over dispatch in a heartbeat.
Never really liked combat, so having combat with a new pirate flavor can only be a step up.
And sub look awesome. Shadowstep and assassinate in the same ability, 3 seconds of shadow dance on every finisher, no hemo, backstab has a more lenient positional requirement (pretty much) and the fact that shadowstep and assassinate are in the same ability means we basically get the old Cloak and Dagger talent for FREE.

>>122093154
Have been DK since wrath day1.
Going back to Rogue after the shitshow that is the current suite of reveals.

>>122092187
Sims 2

Ashran is the biggest failure in pvp ever

>>122093242
I felt the DK reveal was 100% positive. What didn't you like?

>>122093274
yea

>>122093130
Yeah like the game has always been, but I wanna know what flavor of cakewalk.

>>122093274

>that feel when we will never get a WG or BH again, that really encourages people to play at a certain time, and rewards PvE players who decide to get in on it too.

>>122093086

It should be there if you're high level enough to go to outland. so 60-65ish?

>>122093353
>that feel when world pvp died out and nobody really knows what happened to it
>inb4 flying, it died a long while before old world flying

>>122093235

Did they say Dispatch is getting cut?

>>122093432

Lack of rewards is what killed it, at least this is what I believe is to be the factor.

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>believing the hype
I'm just going to leave this here

>They removed backstab and replaced it with an attack that automagically puts you behind the target

HOLD MY DICK!

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>>122092419
>shoving its dick down my throat

go on....

>>122093274
Removing 40 man premades ruined Ashran

>>122093497
>more patch content
>than ever before
>promised

>>122093434
Not explicitly, but all we have to go on for Legion are these little previews. It's a safe assumption, as most of the previews seem to be the non-talent rotations of the class thus far, to the point where they felt the need to point out what Fireball does for fire mages, even though it had no changes. If dispatch was part of the rotation, it would probably be on the site, even if it had no changes.

For all we know, as an example, Shamans could have a billion things not stated in the preview and be fun as fuck. But probably not.

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>>122092959
>yfw it's actually easier and quicker to catch all 721 pokemon than it is to get a single ring in WoW

Thank god for GTC

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Did they ever mention or allude to what's going to be the new pvp zone in Legion? The new Wintergrasp/Tol Barad/Ashran equivalent?

Don't tell me Holinka got all asspained and there's not going to be ANYTHING for PvP in the Isles?

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>>122093568
Oh yeah, Legion will probably be a huge disappointment. I don't think anyone is debating that.

Still wanna play it. I play tons of shit games.

>>122093497
What a glorious time they lived in. Tired of the current expansion and looking forward to Blizzard's best expansion ever, the next one!

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Is it hard to farm 63k gold on a starter account?

>>122093738
Yeah probably since you can only have 10 gold per char

>new 100
>queue HFC lfr: 30 minutes
>try ashran: always lose

Sure it fun at max level

>>122093796
Losing is a player created problem, not a game design problem.

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>>122093258
Actually Sims 2 looks better, but this is with mods

Do baleful tokens stop dropping once you hit a certain ilvl? When I first started doing stuff in tanaan I got one almost every rare and every few treasure chests but now I get almost nothing.

>>122093657
>Don't tell me Holinka got all asspained and there's not going to be ANYTHING for PvP in the Isles?

;^)

>>122093497
Now don't hate legion too much but the same people who made WoD are making Legion.

That is truly horrifying to think about

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>>122090080
Feral Druid with a Balance off-spec.

Just like I've been doing for the past 11 years.

>>122093353
Tol Barad was pretty shit in my opinion. Wintergrasp, on the other hand, was brilliant. I even like PUG Ashran more than I liked Tol Barad.

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So i reinstalled WeW and it gave me the chance to resub using 36k gold. What the hell? Can i play using gold from now on? I been out of the loop for a while, but my understanding was that there are some sort of tokens which can be traded in game.

Does this mean i can resub using gold from now on or is just the first one and the next resubs i need those disgusting tokens?

>>122093894
what is it like getting keked by a slut dragon 24/7 for the past 11 years

>>122093843
did i just get baited

>>122093942
It buys a token for you and uses it. If you let your sub run out you can resub with gold the same way.

>>122093942
Are you the guy who drew these Belf pictures? I recall it being someone from here. Are there lewds?

>spend 4 expansions trying to make balance druids unique
>finally give in and make them a generic caster
>meanwhile make unique shadow priest mechanic

when will blizzard learn?

>>122094049
The same time their customers learn to stop blindly trusting them

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>>122093993
that's so fucking cool
>>122094006
i drew a few, a femzug, femnelf and a femgnome.
no wowrelated lewds yet

>>122094049
It's too late. WoW isn't the cash crop anymore, they don't care. Jay Wilson is leading a team ffs.

>>122094049
>not returning shadow to its true purpose of being a dps that restores mana to your healers while doing damage.

>>122094215
Mana is no longer a problem doe

>No flying on first patch
>World PvP island "never-ending"
>Heroic dungeons will be "much harder than WoD heroics"
>Changing the way Challenge Modes will work, possibly giving loot as strong as Mythic Raiding
>New Class
>Multiple changes on most specs
>New BGs yet to be announced
>More launch content than ever before
>Illidan
>PvP Talents making PvPrs stronger than PvErs for World PvP

Who else is hyped for Legion? You should just preorder it now, faggot.

>>122094192
>Jay Wilson is leading a team ffs.
How the fuck did that happen? He fucked up D3 so badly, and now he leads a wow team? If you are a fuckup at blizzard do they now just move you to wow?

Troll or tauren druid? Troll forms seem a bit garish.

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>>122094262
>haha i put Legion in the pasta

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>>122094049

>mfw I actually kind of liked the solar lunar bar

>>122094259
Implying it couldn't be made into a problem.

>>122090080
Enhance shaman or shadow priest.
Beta will decide.

>>122090080
Enhancement shaman or the DPS demon hunter.

Both look pretty similar so I'll just see how they play. Would rather go with the Shaman though because fuck elves, I want to be a panda.

>>122094608
I liked it in MoP. Surprised they didn't just add a talent to give you control over it again.

>>122093287
Blood looks good.
But I mean, relative to live, it was impossible to fuck up. I don't count freebies.
Frost looks like it will be as dull as live while removing the 2her option when it would be as simple as scaling off weapon DPS like monks and adding a few phantom hits for KM procs. Too much work for a billion dollar Blizzard though. Then there's KM itself: Obliterate only, and that's fine, but still massively devaluing crit and haste. It needs the Chaos Bolt effect but they can't seem to grasp that.
And for me the spec has felt a bit fucked ever since it went on the 1sec GCD. Frost at the tail-end of wrath was incredibly tight and rewarded weaving KM strikes within slim recharge windows. I haven't liked it since losing the split second aspect of it and the idea of more Howling Tickle spam revolts me.

Unholy, I like unholy right now and am ultra worried about it.
The idea of scourge strike spam being our AoE and reliant on 10 seconds of adds every 30 seconds with no movement is absurd with current raid paradigms. I have no faith in them giving us an anchor on DK glyph for it so I think it will be horrendous. 2 ghouls? Who cares? My one ghoul looks like shit and has terrible enough pathing. Festering Wounds isn't a particularly clever or interesting mechanic but it looks very unreliable and will provide DPS gains and losses that we can't control.
Unholy has one of the worst CDs in the game in Gargoyle. It lasts 40 seconds so it can only benefit from potion for 60% of its duration. It's a 3 minute CD so that burst isn't stampede level stuff.
We heard nothing about our utter lack of mobility, nothing about what they visualise our strengths being in Legion as DPS. They added a bit of unholy cleave into frost and a lot of style into unholy but none of it says they have a solid mathematical grasp of the class and its extant issues.

Mage or Warlock?

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>>122093953
It's not that bad. She watches and travels the dreams of all her druids. And I have terribly lewd dreams of her. Every night. :^)

>>122090080
Probably DK, it's the only class I can say I'd want to play 2 specs on (Blood and Unholy). My condolences to healers, Disc looks like the only fun spec for them at this point.

>>122094049
>spend 4 expansions fucking with balance druid core mechanics
>fuck them up every time, making them shit over stupid OP
>finally give in and make them a standard caster
>like all balance druids wanted to be

Thank god this has happened.

>>122095134

>They took out fistweaving because they didn't like how people played it
>Yet they brought back Disc damage.

It's almost like half the designers at blizzard don't know WHAT THE FUCK they are doing.

>>122090080
Not sure how I feel about the rogue changes, I need to see more of their abilities.

The Shadow Priest changes sound good to me though, so probably pick between those two.

>>122095210
How did fistweaving even work, I thought it was shit healing from regular damage.

Disc does damage to gain healing buffs doe.

>>122094316
Jay Wilson is Metzen's latest redemption character,m80.
>>122093287
>>122094864
I also don't particularly like that we're getting permadeath runes everywhere. I'd have liked a rework for more complexity not less. If runes started in a neutral state and then charged according to ability usage and empowered strikes in various ways it'd have been very interesting and at least put us on an AB rotation with potential variations for adds and whatnot.
Instead we get told, lol resource management makes it easier. Which just isn't true.

>>122093242
Rogue changes are a pretty big shitshow m8.

>>122094343
Taste the rainbow, anon.

>>122094864
i heard that gargoyle is gone, they're going to put something in it's place

DKs are supposed to be the immobile class, go play something else if you want to be mobile.

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What are some mechanical pets I *should* have at lvl 25? I just realised that I can take a level 1 mechanical pet and have it go first against my garrison's battle pets, have it revive, switch it off and it gets 2200 xp every battle. First battle took it from lvl 1 to 8.

>>122095752
Mechanical Pandaren Dragon thing
Iron Starlette

Expert pokemoners probably know more

>>122095831
Thanks m8, leveling Pandaren Dragon thing right now and leveling Iron Starlette next then.

Is Illidan a meme server? Im seeing a ton of guilds roll there. Whats the point of a PvP server when one faction is 99% of the population? Plus with that population isn't logging in for Legion going to be impossible the first month.

>>122095483
1) Removing gargoyle probably means we'll get something functionally identical with a new skin.
2) I don't want to be mobile I want my power trade-offs for that immobility.

I also want retarded stuff like AMS soaking to fuck off. For us to do our best DPS we have to waste one of our strongest survival CDs for RP gains. That's fucking stupid design, and they have made no mention of any intended change.
>>122095474
They look good to me. Power windows look solid and there are fun reactive procs. Not much to be upset with outside the Sub no Shadowdance stealth in PvP thing. What has you riled up in there?

>>122096148
>Power windows

jesus fuck SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>122094898
Warlock

mage is a meme class

Is anyone actually planning on rolling a class purely for the fantasy and the feel? Like, just going with the archtype you might pick if you were playing a single-player or tabletop RPG?

Does the air superiority naval mission turn up enough to 100% the fleet treasure mission every 2 weeks?

>>122096283
No, because if you RP outside of RP servers you are seen as a dumbass.

Although in BC we roleplayed Aldor/Scryer as Crips/Bloods and everyone loved it. Daily drive-bys and shit.

>>122096283
I play to feel powerful and wreck shit, not for roleplaying or for class flavor. I used to play for class flavor but my class got shit on endlessly by blizz and now I just play whatever.

>>122096220
DON'T YOU LIKE RUSH?
And jargon with Rush album names?
You come off pretty ridiculous with your explosive diarrhoea babby reaction here, mate.

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>MUH ROLEPLAY
get b& faggot

>>122096148
I don't like the loss of cheapshot and poisons for outlaw. But without actually playing it or seeing more abilities, it's just kneejerk reactions at this point.

>>122096148
that's not stupid design you fucking shitter, that's advanced gameplay

>>122096594
that shit is dumb and going to kill Fury on pvp
>muh extra hp and healing
you can't heal while stunned, it's going to be literally wait for fury to spend his trinket and get an enrage and them BTFO him

>>122096731
> wait for fury to spend his trinket and get an enrage and them BTFO him
Sounds like vanilla

>>122096731
i really hope they change it before live, theres nothing engaging in a flat out damage increase taken on a buff that you NEED to have up at all time
I agree that it was kinda cool when it was tied to recklesness and deathwish but on enrage is literally autismal

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>wanting to play a demonhunter

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>im going to main demon hunter next expac

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>>122097039
i've waiting since tbc, screw you

>tfw losing demonic leap

oh fuck

>>122096731
>Using a 45-X second CD every 45-X seconds and standing in shit like a retard is advanced gameplay.
No, it isn't. It was fun to do when you got 300 RP off it in the past now it's a negligible assist and soaking up what should be a useful utility just to spew a little more Dragon haletosis ain't shit. And for the record I'm an orange log regular btw, chum. I just find it absurd all the fucking hoops we have to jump through as DK to get middling damage. Bet you think grip spam for UeH is deep too. You do don't you? You're a clown, chum.

WRA or Illidan?

>>122096731
I read somewhere that it might be worded wrong. Apparently in the Spanish translation it says you deal increased damage rather than take increased damage.

Don't play warrior though so haven't kept up with it.

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>playing a meme class

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do you guys still think I am cool?

>>122096148
>Power windows look solid
I assume you're talking about Sub here, but yeah, that's one of my biggest gripes. The whole cyclical "dump 5cp into a finisher and gain a short duration power window" thing has already been Assassination's thing for a while now. Making it Sub's too is just lazy. Especially at the expense of Shadow Dance.

>and there are fun reactive procs
It's Dispatch with a pistol. Lazy and boring.

>>122097285
Every class is a meme class you retard

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>a class for hunting demons

>tfw I really liked the stam stacking style of tanks in ICC

>these guardian changes
>fuck dodge, you get a fuck ton of health
>mastery gives you MORE HEALTH
>reset button with 2 charges on a 20 second recharge timer
>going into cat form when not tanking is hinted at coming back
Bear might actually be cool for once

>Realizing as I load into LFR, that I don't give a single fuck about this game anymore, and just play it to try to relive the old days during vanilla-wotlk

I hope I can remember this for the next year, I already know legion will suck me back in for a few months.

>>122096817
you even win attack speed
why the fuck would i want attack speed to deal tons of damage
if this shit procs while you're chasing a ranged and he ccs you and out of range you're done

>>122097282
confirmed on twitter

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>demonhunter

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Did asmongoloid die? Where the fuck is the video about warrior changes?

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>>122097436
>demons are the second biggest threat to the world
>you can't have a dedicated group of people to specialize in eliminating them

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>>122097410
>getting upset

>>122097613
He probably hanged himself.

>>122097613
he might be busy venting his frustration like i'm doing right now

So /wowg/ is the Warcraft movie going to be full canon or will everything regarding the first war have to be retconned after the release?

>warrior community is raging
kek
blizz made the class so fitting that they decided they wanted to use it IRL

did blizzard fix fistweaving and glad stance yet?

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>"this double jump feature is so cool!"

>>122097841
Movie is in alternative universe :^)

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are u guys excited to see a bunch of illidans running around in legion?

their dark green raid profiles everywhere. cant wait

Female human, Female night elf, or Male worgen rogue?

>>122097980
only if you post butt

Speaking of that 7 day demon hunter early access. Starting event is probably no longer than a few hours. Sounds like a disaster to have a million DHs sitting at 100 for launch.

>>122098275
Male Worgen. Stab, Shoot, and flay people, then drop to all fours and run someone down.

You know, if you like fluff. Otherwise Femnelf for sexy transmogs.

>"legion" expac
>enemies so far are night elves Tauren and vrykul
>no demons in sight

Does anyone SERIOUSLY have good expectations

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>>122098341
>meme hunter

>>122098469
Just like with Iron Horde and WoD, you will fuck demons up and seal the gate within the first zone.

>>122097963
Seriously?! Another lore-abomination like WoD was??

My hype for the movie has decreased at least 50%, fuck this.

Why do they do this? Would be awesome if the movie was some good reference to see if you want to learn about the first war.. Wouldn't even care about some facts that changed as long as the big points correlate.
Why doesn't Blizzard stick to their own lore? The whole warcraft franchise would be way better if all the products follow the same story instead of the clusterfuck of timelines/universes that we have now.

>>122098275
>Male worgen rogue
Dont buy into the HoTS Greymane hype of the Worgen Outlaw. Greymane is cool because he uses weapons as a human and his claws as a Worgen. You will just be a Worgen 100% of the time in combat.

>>122097270

I prefer WRA. but then again I like playing female Pandas.

>>122098539
>An IP has an non-canon movie

Whoa stop the press

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>all the boosted kiddies in their shit 640 greens sitting in stormshield
lambo.

>>122097391
We'll end up with almost the same shadow dance time and should be explosive and reduce waiting around with the talent that gives thistle tea on stealth. It certainly could go either way thought and will lead to less explosive openers if there aren't tools to force it periodically as well.

>>122098539

It's actually beneficial.

In the Movie verse.

They changed Garona so that Med'an can't exist.

>>122090080
I'm gonna be a motherfucking pirate, Outlaw is the greatest thing to ever happen to rogues.
Sub changes are cool and I like assassination sticking to how it was with a few minor changes.

Is "Class Fantasy" the biggest blizzard buzzword of the year?

>all these class changes
Literally will make no difference. They did do something right by removing meme spec, I'm so glad I don't have to hear anything about le damage shield man anymore

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wtf?

>>122098982
Demon hunter is the biggest meme of the year

>>122090080
Shadow priest or Marks hunter with all survival talents. Hopefully they can hold their ground in minigames without the pet because they can't in WoD.

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>>122099105
Concept art always lies.

>>122099037
Good bait
Literally no one is happy with glad and fistweaving removal

>>122099105
>muh precious meme class

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So far:

Mage: It's decent.
Priest: Looks interesting.
Warlock: Looks interesting.

Rogue: Looks interesting.
Druid: Literally who cares?
Monk: It's decent.

Hunter: It's decent.
Shaman: Literally who cares?

Paladin: Looks interesting.
Death Knight: Looks interesting.
Warrior: It's decent.

>>122097901

no they're both being removed in Legion

>>122099239
I'm happy that u have given us insight on ur shitty opinions rofl

>>122099105
>>122099189

If they were developing a WoW 2 with an engine from 2015 and more than 4 polygons per model then I could see them getting closer to the concept art.

But with the current shitty Warcraft 3 engine and model restraints we stuck with this shit.

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>>122099189
noes

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Do you guys think professions will be great again?

For me personally, the best profession experience I ever had was in BC with the BS weapons. Upgrading it through dungeons and raiding was so fucking cool.

The iconic hammer I wielded was just amazing.

>>122095752
All of these pets can be used either to defeat a WoD/MoP trainer, in the celestial tournament, or in PvP battles. Mech Panda and Zeppelin are probably the most important in the bunch.

>>122099391

>Enchanted Water Bucket

FUCK YES

>>122099191
Glad was shit in every aspect of the game, the people who are upset are the ones that have been forcing this horrible meme spec all of wod

>>122099445
It was good for like 2 weeks

>>122099391
I just want to have exclusive recipes, at least for some time. And not because of gating.

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>>122095752
>>122099431
I am what someone might call "retarded"

>>122099445

this 2bh pham

Glad stopped being fun a month into the expansion, they removed its worth in PvP then it was mediocre in PvE for the rest of the expansion

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Post memes
>join random bg for fun maybe even get some conquest points
>my team is continuely trying to kill dps while the faggot heals freecast in the background
>lose horribly
:^) haha, love this meme! :^).

>>122099529
>Exclusive
>not because of gating
WELL THEN HOW THE FUCK DO YOU PROPOSE THEY MAKE THEM EXCLUSIVE

Blizzcon? ROFL

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I was kinda confused at first

>>122099239
>mage looks decent

shut the FUCK up you brain dead retard they ruined Fire

>>122098694
>tfw all those people will start working on their garrison and legendary ring
>level 100 so no garrison while leveling

holy shit i do not envy newly boosted characters

>>122099571
So because blizzard nerfed it... It's shit and should be removed?
What ass shit backwards circular logic is that

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What are some good demon-themed battle pets I should collect for my Demon Hunter?

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I wish Outlaw rogue would only use a single 1hand weapon and keep the other hand free for revolver abilities

>>122099682
Uh raid drops?

>>122099747
you get a level 3 garrison with a couple buildings up

>>122099682
Probably exclusive is not the right word. Recipes being dungeon drop rates, but not 1% BC extreme.

Then just add them to a vendor with next patch.

>>122099731

kek fire looks fine you inbred shitlicker

calm down

>>122099921
but muh combustion skill ceiling

They should bring ignite rolling back

>>122099823
Me too Anon, but it's a step in a good direction.

>>122099921
>no more stacking pyroblats
>combustion ruined because scrubs cant handle it

shut the fuck up retard. Fire was perfectly fine

>>122099391
Crafting in WoD was utterly insipid, so it's hard to see how they could do worse.

Though I'm going to miss being able to rake in gold by throwing more characters at it.

>Want be ranged for raiding, melee for pvp
>Enjoy tanking in my offtime and always liked a little healing as well
Druid bros, how good is the life of a pure hybrid? Is it absolute freedom or a burden?

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http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/19876317558?page=1

Normalfags don't know it's not goatse.

So, okay, now that Fistweaving is gone, does that mean that I'm -forced- to go WW for solo stuff? Because, shit, Discipline priests still have Penance and Smite, Resto Shams have Lightning Bolt and Lava Lash, Druids can shapeshift to cat with that one passive that gives them attack power for spell power.

Are MW losing ALL soloing ability?

>>122100303
>Druids
>ever not blizzards baby class, free from all burden and worry

How many people were at Blizzcon?

>>122100069

>muh pyro stacking
>muh perceived complexity

get a load of this faggot

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Mythic Shadow Council pieces/lookalikes for warlock. The Gul'dan-esque set. Mythic BRF yes?

How much might this set me back? Shoulders, robe, gloves, belt.

>>122100346
How hard is it to change the spec, dumdum?

>>122100346
Don't accept this. Tweet blizzard. Write posts. Don't let fistweaving die in silence.

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>>122100346
Mistweavers will still have damaging abilities, but they will no longer have smart heals attached to them.

Its a bad idea with a small move in the right direction. Taking the stance swap out is awesome, but taking out the smart heals removes all purpose.

#SaveFistweaving

>>122100484
Well it means carrying around an entire extra set of gear in my bags, and I might not have it when I need it, depending on how forgiving loot tables are.

>>122100697
Don't MW stack Multistrike? Agi and Int swap depending on a spec, so you need neck, cloak, weapon, two rings and trinkets. Wow, a whole extra set.

I carry like 4 sets on my druid because all stats are different

Question: who WON'T pick outlaw in Legion and why

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>>122100675
Oh jesus, I hadn't even considered how fucking cluttered my actionbars would be now that there aren't stances.

WHERE AM I GOING TO PUT ALL OF THIS SHIT

>>122100846
me
im gonna play subtlety because i dont do endgame content and i just like sneaking around
might dual spec with it though for roleplaying

Hi /wowg/, me and my friend are new to WoW, would you recommend picking a pve or a pvp server and why?
We both enjoy pvp but we fear it might impact our ability to quest and such (especially since we're both new)

>>122100846
Sub looks cooler.

Rather be a ninja than a fag pirate.

>>122100846
it's cool but
>competing with DH for leather
>competing for melee slots
I don't need all that shit man

>>122100871
Which unitframes are those?

>>122101064
Pirates vs Ninjas

What is this? 1999?

Do I need engineering for current challenge modes as a tank, and will I need it for the new kind which have lesser time limits?

>>122100871
Put them exactly where they were before WoD obviously. I keep my RSK, Jab, Tiger Palm, and BoK all on the same keybinds no matter the spec or bar. It keeps things nicely sorted.

>>122101256
Engineering right now is nothing but free health potions.

And no one knows shit about professions in Legion.

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>>122101234
time to dust off this old classic

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>Outlaws can use pistols
Oh god, my dreams just came true.

>>122098767
>they changed Garona so Med'an sue can't exist
What? Is she infertile now or something? haven't heard anything about this

>>122099239
>monk is decent
go die in a fire you faggot

>>122101154
oUF ABU with Adapt portraits

>>122101424
And BM artifact can be changed from a rifle to a pistol, its awesome.

>>122101535
She's now with Lothar, and Medivh's role was reduced comparable to game lore.

>>122101057
there arent many people in low level zones, so you can choose a pvp server
and if you meet someone, you just experience another aspect of the game

So I haven't played wow in months and I need a new main for now and the future. I do plan on raiding currently but I mainly want to do 2's in the arena. Based on the recent changes would it be a better pick to go feral or ww? I used to main a caster if it matters and I dont plan on being one again. I do enjoy tanking but I would like to main a dps with good aoe and a fun rotation.

>>122098738
>We'll end up with almost the same shadow dance time

Probably more, really, but that's not really the issue. It's way too mechanically similar to Envenom. I hate the shift away from longer, more satisfying burst windows to shorter ones that cycle and are just built into your normal rotation. Old Shadow Dance was perfect since you could line it up with trinkets, lust, legendary ring or any specific part of a fight you needed burst on (or to line up a kill in PvP). Making it automated kills what was great about the spec. And honestly, being part of your normal rotation, how "bursty" do you think Blizz is going to let it be? Find Weakness is almost definitely gone, or at least tuned way low to compensate for its 100% uptime.

>>122101643
I'd rather they make a whole trilogy of Med'an movies than have Lothar fuck an arc.

>>122101057
World pvp is dead and that's the only reason why there are PvP realms. Occasionally you might get to gang up on some lone quester but that's about it. Doesn't really matter that much. You should look for a high populated realm instead.

Are you EU or US?

>>122101057
PvP servers consist of bored max levels camping high traffic low level zones and then flying away once someone of equal level comes along. People will harp on about "muh vanilla experience" but its nothing like that now.

>>122099703
Everyone with the name "Yrel" should be given a mandatory name change, and that name should be blocked by the filter.

/target Yrel should never target a player.

>>122101825
So World PvP was dead on game release, thats why we got pvp realms?

>>122101742
Don't go WW for PVP. Feral is really good right now.

>>122101643
Well how will that be better? If it's a seperate universe Med'an will still exist in game-lore.

I just think it's confusing to have different storylines/versions/timelines/alternateuniverses/whatever telling what is essentially the same story.

How long does WoW have left?

Do you think Legion will add years to its lifespan?

>>122101916
Shit like Ultima and Runescape still live.

>>122101916
You know Everquest got a new expansion around the time WoD came out right?

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>>122101875
>World PvP was dead on game release

>>122099678
>post memes

okay
>pvp

>>122101892
Who said it was better?
Yeah THIS movie will be very confusing, because its technically Warcraft 1(to my knowledge) and the Alliance is already formed, minus gnomes, when the Orcs first arrive. And well...night elves, but theres high elves. However, only the humans will be fighting against the orcs.

>>122101535
I hate people calling Med'an the Mary Sue character. Sure he seemed overpowered but was negated due to him resigning from the Guardian of Tirisfal position. Now he's just a dirty inbred with some magical prowess I guess but coming from Medivh and Aegwynn that isn't all that weird.

Also the overpoweredness came from that in the first place so it would be more fitting to mock the entire Guardian role which would trigger me because Aegwynn was a fucking badass.

>try to play a dk
>retarded rune system, no idea what skills to use
Thank god for blizzard simplifying this fucking bullshit of a mess

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How do we make Blizzard change Outlaw rogue to using a single one-handed weapon and keeping the other hand free for pistol skills?

>>122097158
>draenei
>>122097158
>>122097158\
did quit?

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>>122101916

2016: Legion
2017: Warcraft1+2 remastered
2018: Expac #7
2019: Warcraft 3+TFT remastered
2020: Expac #8
2021: Warcraft 4 released
2022: Expac #9 (last expansion for WoW)
2023: Warcraft 4 expansion released
2024: World of Warcraft 2 released (20th anniversary of WoW)

>>122101916
You people make it sound as if this game needs millions scattered across the world.

One realm with 500k people will make it look more alive than ever.

>>122102208

This guy:
>>122098767

just assumed it was the same anon.

>>122101825
>Are you EU or US?
EU

>>122100871
Nice interface anon, what's the map addon?

>>122095752
darkmoon zepplin and tonk are OP as fuck, either one of those are great. rascal bot, too.

>>122099812
Mini felflame, Sister of temptation, Abyssius, any of the fragments.

>>122102285
Based predictiono. Had something similar in mind excluding Warcraft 4. Is there any information regarding that or just rumors?

>>122101748
I suspect they'll shift Find Weakness over to vanish and let us have the 1 minute CD other specs enjoy.

>>122102285
I'd be okay with this.
It will be really strange to play with Warcraft for like 30 years. (Warcraft1 - 1994)

>>122090080
Once again it'll be my Rogue.

Going to forsake PvP on her and do that on my Priest, and just have both Assassination and Outlaw until I decide which I like more.

>>122102318
Nope. It ain't me,I ain't no senator's son, son.

But seriously not the same person.

>>122102431
ElvUI map.

>>122102640
>that gob
>>>/s/16288386

>>122102640
Dat trollop! *Swoon!*

>>122102223
>dirty inbred with magical prowess
>able to wield traditional magic
>able to use some shamanistic spells
>able to use the light
you want more mary sue than this?

>>122102725
Except for: everyone gets all their specs by default in Legion.

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Hey so does the 200% xp battle pet thing mean I can level a character well doing pet battling?

>>122102553
Morhaime had a boner for the anniversary of WC1

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So who has Blizz pissed off with these changes so far?

>Mistweavers
>Warriors
>Ele Shamans
>2h Frost players

>>122103113
It's a bonus xp for your pets. Do you always post the most retarded shit with that image?

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>join a mythic guild
>no progress for the past 3 months
>stuck on gorefiend
>it's the best raiding guild on my realm so what choice do I have
>read guild chat for an hour while leveling my battle pets
>blatantly obvious that 60% of guild membership consists of females

Send help

>>122103223
> 2h Frost players
ISHYGDDT

>>122102263
Pray and give feedback in high hopes for next expac. They gave us melee hunter back, maybe we can get gun rogue.

Or whine about it on the forums, you know, could go either way.

>>122103369
Raise another guild up

>>122103292

fuck off faggot

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>>122103223
>2H frost

It's like you enjoy sucking dicks.

>>122103223
As feral I'm kind of just not giving a fuck

>>122103223
>2h Frost Players
Me. I don't even play 2h frost, but I appreciate the aesthetic. Given the size of the dev team it's abominably lazy that these fuckers don't just tool it like monks and make everyone happy. The weapons would be a simple matter of scaling up the base model and maybe sectioning it with a bit of banding to extend the length for the correct proportion. They're just lazy and cheap.

>>122103223
shitty Brewmasters who thought they were MLG pros for spamming Guard.

>>122103527
What's better - sucking one big dick or two small simultaneously?

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>>122103487
I'm not charismatic enough for that. Even here I already pissed off people with my autism by pointing how someone's slave fantasy, of which they were talking about in gchat, would be impossible due to imminent starvation.

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>>122103678
>His asshole isn't loose enough to take three dicks simultaneously

>>122103643
Still going to be just as easy having that much stagger.

>>122103631
>just lazy

Clearly its not laziness rather an intentional design choice to completely detach from that piece of shit subspec are you an idiot?

>>122103865
the shitty brewmasters don't realize that tho

>Level Human
>Goldshire is still the biggest hotspot
Every time

>>122103692

cyber a healslut before you leave, or are they all womyn dps who are shit at basic rotations

>>122103223
>2h Frost
Subhumans