/rlg/ - Roguelike General

>>121596058
>dropping the sil on the upstair
Hardcore.

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>>121596058
/rlg/'s teams are:
In 2nd rlg - http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.17/clans/vidiiot.html
In 26th Cropping School Dropouts - http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.17/clans/nikheizen.html
Make sure to post if you make another team so we can see how you do and feel better about ourselves as a community!

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Tried to use passage to escape, ended up next to goblins+ the cultist, ran away into brush while on fire, which made the brush catch on fire, which set me back on fire, went down in a blaze of glory chugging my last unknown potion, which ended up being a potion of strength.

Moral of the story-shoot cultists with bows.

>Your pack is full.
kill me lads

>>121596350
I lost the durin's babe pic

>>121596524
iktf desu senpai

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>>121596715

>>121596845
thank you anon

>>121596845
>>121596892
Male balrog>female

>>121597020
my opinion>your opinion

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why are all the feats so sexy

>>121597262
because there aren't many humanoids to snap
take disarm trap, it's the best on any kind of run

>>121597262
What game is this?

>>121597350
Aren't demons humanoid?

I've seen lots of goblins, cultists, a berserker...and a demon

>>121597440
It's in the OP http://forays.github.io/

>>121597440
Forays into norrendin

http://forays.github.io/

>>121597560
well, I guess.

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Hmm I must have missed the prompt at level 45. Well that void jumpgate isnt going to be very helpful now...

>Can't eat poisonous corpses, even with rPois now

Well Lair and all of its branches suddenly got less fun.

>>121596414
>strong attack
>daze and %~230 hit
>also spending catpoint just for daze
>also not opening passive-dazing Searing Light
>against instant movement from target to target

>>121597745
That would of been spoilery gameplay anon

>>121597824
>light tree
>on a sun paladin
>before level 30
lol

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This is like the sixth fucking bulwark unique and I've only done 3 dungeons counting the Escape from Reknor one.

Mirin weapon though.

>>121597745
And I can't play crawl anymore. It's just so fucking boring for me now.

>>121598412
You prefer to open radiance tree early on so you can have full benefits on level 30 and after, or you prefer to open it on level 30 and gain benefits somewhere end-endgame? Also invisible-stealth fuckers.

>>121598461
>that random shortcuts
man

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>>121599067
Never bothered organizing them, do them actually make a difference?

Also just got this fucking ring. The neat thing is that I can directly replace my ring of pilfering on top of all the bonuses. Thank you based Norgos.

>>121599503
>Nightmare
>Doesn't have the chest
how.
Why?

>>121599503
Well, when I don't sort my skills in 2-row plate, I feel fucking clumsy.
Also super ring you got there.

>>121598896
Guardian/Crusade at 10
Extra inscription/rune slot at 20, or an escort quest thing
30 is when you would get radiance so you can dump points in it, now that you've maxed out most of your starter/guardian/crusade shit

>>121599960
It's a new-ish install and I don't have an account.

Staff > Dagger > Bow > Sword > Mace

Time for another exciting installment of "Which weapon, senpai?"

>Leech
>Autumn Katana
>+7 Great Sword of Speed randart

>>121600627
is the staff really that good? I never used it.

>>121600758
If you're not using leech you're basically an idiot

>>121600103
Stays on your computerfam

>>121600852
anon please he's just shitposting about a horrible game, don't give him attention

>>121600076
As I play with cornac peasant, I just can keep them open both, prioritize guardian tree and put points in rad needed.
The sun paladin has light tree, so he's fine with phase/teleport and wild infusion + something else, and does not need extra slot.
because i'm dumb fuck who likes to put last catpoint into one of the main trees

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>>121600959

>>121600852
I installed a linux distro a few months ago. Some older stuff is still on windows I think, though I did the bunch of my playtime on a laptop which went to shit a few years ago.

>>121601078
>no heroism
>no movement
>no mental

I play Cornac too but the east is gonna tear you a new asshole

>>121601149
Ah, the smug anime face. The ultimate comeback.

>>121601471
>implying having multiple assholes is a bad thing
It's like you hate efficiency.

>>121601657
I mean if you like fat orc cock then sure

>>121601584
It's about even with "stop liking what I don't like".

>>121601471
I dunno, there is rare cases of phys+mag+mental tatoos, and you can put crystallizing rune (which has mental) in the third slot.
Right thing about movement there.
And heroism is bs imo.

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Should I be scared?

Should I do V:5 with a Firestarter and some Immolation scrolls, or should I be smart and teleport several times to safety?

>>121601884
senpai if I'm not mistaken phy+mag+mental only removes one at random, it's why people say they're shit, because you might be brain locked and slowed by 2% and use the infusion, and remove the 2% slow and be stuck and fucked brainlocked.

Heroism is godly desu, saved me so many times from being bursted to death.

What is wrong with it in your opinion?

>>121601935
>66 AC
nah

>>121602067
Isn't there one artifact rune which literally removes all three though?

>Dicku-san is out bullfighting and pounding 10/10 mediterranean beauties instead of playing mummy monks on the internet to entertain me
>that means I have no excuse not to be contributing to the team's score
why

>>121601884
>And heroism is bs imo.
I was once like you, lad, but one day I saw the light.

>>121602067
Oh shit, forgotten about removing only one at once. Okay, gonna put one in slots.
And I am not using heroism because I just can't. I never had a need in using it when cutting some midtier gooks, and elites fucked me with heroism activated anyway.
>>121602665
Its not a rune, its a skill given by that female-boss-paladin for your honor.

>>121602881
>>Dicku-san is out bullfighting and pounding 10/10 mediterranean beauties instead of playing mummy monks
it hurts
IT HURTS
MAKE IT STOP

I'M GONNA MUMO RIGHT NOW

>>121603205
You're not fighting with Heroism activated are you?

You're meant to use it, and run the fuck away with a movement infusion/teleport/etc, it's why it lasts so long and lets you survive with like...-800 HP.

You use it when shit is going south, get out of any stuns/confusion/etc, then run the fuck away

>>121603205
Just found it, it was an infusion and not a rune.
It's called primal infusion, though you're right relentless purpose makes it useless. Saw it on a playthrough last year.

http://te4.org/wiki/Primal_Infusion

>>121603205
>>121603592
Or atleast, that's how I used it when orcs were nuking the shit out of me with 300 damage screen wide AoES and shit, again it's just my personal opinion so I may be off base.

>>121603592
Why not just use a shield rune (antimagic aside)?

>>121603883
Shield runes usually don't last that long, I think they're meant to be used to tank hits from strong foes or ranged attacks.

WITNESS ME

http://crawl.xtahua.com:8080/#watch-LetoII

Heroism is good for double dipping the ogre bonus and getting a 1k power shield from a rune.

>>121603592
>You're not fighting with Heroism activated are you?
Lolno, just never used it in synergy with speed, and died often when teleported straight to an elite mob.
I guess it was just bad luck, so I'm subconsciously wait for witnessing bad shit when using heroism.

>>121604172
I find movement better than teleportation, because with movement if you run away in one direction and see bad shit, you can run away in another one, and won't get fucked as hard as if you teleported next to a group of ass rape enemies, this combined with heroism makes it so even -if- they get an attack on you in-between movement turns, you won't die and can still escape.

>golden dragon doesn't drop a hide

absolutely haram

>HEROISM rune
>running like a pussy after it
Oh, the irony!

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>life long dream of finding the plutonium sword finally comes true
>mace & flail build

Oh well. I came anyways.

>>121604680
This. Heroism is for shrekkin niggas.

Gosh darn adders

>>121604868
Sucks to not follow Ashenzari

>>121604094
WITNESSED

>>121604680
>Heroes
>staying and dying
lmao no

>>121605162
Well, this is the definition, is it not?

>>121605358
>a person, typically a man, who is admired or idealized for courage, outstanding achievements, or noble qualities

>Outstanding achievement
>died like a bitch because he didn't run

or

>Outstanding achievement
>Tactically retreated then came back, slaughtering all evil in his way

>>121605569
It can be used in both meanings, of a retard gazebo-fighting paladin and of yours.

>3 aux on D2
I can't believe how 3 AC is such a game changer from 0 AC

>V:5
>Okawaru has granted you a gift!
>Something appears at your feet.
>Runed hand axe {god gift}
>LB-user
Th-thanks oka-san

>+3 ring of protection
>oh shit this is it
>eustachio has a +9 cutlass
I love this game

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>>121608061
It's okay to cry, anon

>>121608526
I cannot despair, since I saw my old bag of xp down there while eustachio killed me!
A level 10 DDBe ghost wielding a sling with no armor and he's right on D5. I will beat the shit out of that pinata and get some good stuff!

...ghost don't disappear if you die on their level, right

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>Mercenary card
>In 0.14-, you can give your mercs items. Some have equipment restrictions for being large (naga, centaur warrior, and ogre mage) or small (spriggan rider).
Kirke porkolated my merfolk buddy and now the equipment he spawned with is gone. How do I give him equipment? Bro is naked.

>>121608949
Maybe one of the subcommands of 't'? I know there's ally stuff in there.

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Friend. I've waited so long to see you.

Embrace me.

What rogulikes let me have a large army of undead and be heavily melee.
I don't want shit like in DC:SS where the undead don't follow me from floor to floor.
If not a giant undead army plus melee then any giant summoned army plus melee

>>121609859
>I don't want shit like in DC:SS where the undead don't follow me from floor to floor.

Just worship Yredremul and they will

>>121609710
DD ghosts have innate healing now, just like any other ghost.

I'm in the arena quest now and the game just crashes once I'm about to kill the second fighter.
As in I'm about to get the last hit on him and the game just closes.

>>121610806
>DD ghosts have innate healing now, just like any other ghost.
why would anyone play anything but .15

>>121593868
>>>/gif/7669258
>>>/gif/669258

i'm curious

>>121609859
ADOM Necromancers are pretty much exactly what you're describing. You can make undead from corpses, name them, and train them up.

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>>121610956

>>121611014
He wants an army worthy of Mordor, though. Can he get that in ADOM?

>>121612181
How would you even be a melee dude with an army killing everything?

>>121612681
because if you just touch them wrong, ADOM's pets go berserk and decide that lopping your head off is a great idea.

>>121612681
I did it with Yred as a MiDk back in 10.1 or something.
I was thinking maybe some mods for ToME 4. I can sort of pull it off in PosCheng with a paladin of death but it's eh.

>>121612836
That's for actual living pets, Necromancer minions can be mistreated however you want and they won't turn on you. It's a nice contrast.

>>121613114
>Necromancer minions can be mistreated however you want and they won't turn on you

Are you sure
I remember a guy fireballing his quickling king and getting wrecked to death one turn later

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Fucking disco in pan.

>>121613282
>fireballing his quickling king
10/10

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>>121613419

>>121614006
discopan is always pretty.

What happens if you examine the disco ball?

How do I view my player page?

I want to see what banners I've won so far.

>>121614264
http://dobrazupa.org/tournament/0.17/players/YOURNAMEHERE.html

>>121613282
Maybe it was added on a later version?

>>121614527
only way to try, hit your dude

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oh boy

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>>121614692

Did they make him easier? No fire storm at all. Or am I just a tank?

>two rings of cold resistance
>handful of rings of ice
>+6 slay artifact ring of ice (worn)

>one ring of fire (worn)
>no other rF items

>+9 artifact plate mail (worn)

Should I spam enchant armor scrolls on a fire dragon hide and wear that indefinitely, or continue holding out? I've got all three Lair runes and the Vault rune.

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He had a good run.
Goodnight sweet prince

>>121615254
rib in benis lad

>>121615393
Forget it I snapped out of tablord mode and somehow survived via using the infusions and runes literally the exact turn they were available.

HE'S BACK

http://crawl.xtahua.com:8080/#watch-senatorankhstrong

>>121615773
>that fucking name
kek

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>>121615773
You will pay for this.

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>>121615773
FOR WHAT PURPOSE

>>121615773
fucking cock gobbling double faggot nigger

Is there a team I can join?

I'm about to try a win as a DrTm of Ash, worth about 250 points if anyone wants the points

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>tfw so shit joining a team would totally destroy them no matter how hard i try

Demon whip of slashing or draining as my backup for pandemonium? I guess slashing, right?

>>121618747
Slashing. Nearly everything will be immune to draining or heavily resistant to it, except maybe demon spawn.

>>121613419
>>121614006
Best layout

>>121614180
You cant i think, its just a floor tile

>>121618414
Just set up another team, m8.

Does jiyva basically let you abyss scum forever?

>>121619738
Jiv would certainly help enable it, but I don't see why you'd want that. If you really want to scum, just go to pan. You can usually find enough food to survive for as long as you'd like.

>>121618632
You can splat a million characters and the only way that'd impact a team negatively is if there's a better player wishing to join and you're taking the last spot.

>>121619065
>You cant i think, its just a floor tile
You can.

why cant ignite poison blow up poison potions
there's literally no reason for these potions except for wasting either a cure pot, a id scroll, or killing you on d:1
so stupid

What is the difference between evil items and unholy items in DCSS?

>>121621381
nothing
>>121620164
so we should start another team?

>>121621381
Flavorwise evil is demonic and unholy is necromantic I believe. In practice the gods who hate one hate them both.

>>121620673
Back in ye olden days you could throw poison potions with the Evaporate spell to create clouds of poison.
Also Ignite poison turned them into clouds of flame.

suggestion for new team name?
was thinking
not_borscht

>>121621550
Apparently I had that backwards. Evil is necromantic and demonic is unholy.

>>>121621782
Stalker honestly was the best class DCSS ever had desu

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Do these statues have a purpose? I've seen them randomly sometimes, but there's four in a carpeted room.

It's kind of ominous

>find Gong in a shop
do I dare to become the MUUUUU MOOOOO

>>121622364
Flavour. In that case it's kind of an antichamber to the resurrection vault but I'm not sure it's actually intended.
Statues can come with surprises sometimes.

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WHAT THE FUCK???????????????? Should i have moved from the wall?

>>121622735
jesus
did you inspect him first?

>>121622735
Should've been flying.

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>>121622219
You are my nigga senpai

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I actually planned on not posting until either the character died or I reached the East to not seem like an attention whore but wtf is this

Is this ToME's response to getting abyssed?

>>121623006
I did, it said the normal shit like for other demons i inspected

>>121623026
I just noticed i wasnt flying for some reason.. I have no idea why
I knew it this was a bad night to continue my run and that i will die in the most shittiest way possible, fuck
Rip my almost 15 rune ;_;

>>121623161
That was disappointing. I literally just rushed to the scrub who sent me there, used Assault, and when he died I was back in Eyal.

Now I have a Bringer of Doom to worry about though, and I have 19 turns of Pacification Hex left.

>>121623161
You can't attention whore in a general about roguelikes, by posting about roguelikes senpai.

If anything you'll just spark discussion.

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>>121623561
top fucking kek had no idea bulwarks were this ridiculous

>>121624208
bringer of dooms are pretty easy desu

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We'll get there Cropping School Dropouts.
I had to take the easiest way for it though.

>>121624208
>roguelike
Why do you insist on playing the game the way it wasn't meant to be played? When you suffer the usual tome4 assguttering, I won't show any sympathy.

>>121624809
>wasn't meant to be played
Stop being so fucking casual

>>121624626
Nice, you got your GDA. Grats man. Shame I couldn't catch Zot and the Orb run.

>>121624809
It's just so the achievements look better desu

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Off to Hell for my final four runes. This is gonna suck.

>>121625782
No panda? Hell is easy

>>121625214
Thanks.
It was pretty quiet aside from like 10-12 OOFs in the lungs and a pan lord almost nailed me with two Glaciates at like D:4.

>>121622735
One of the only downsides to being a gargoyle is that you're especially weak to shatter. I think that is why they gain flying from a gameplay perspective. How much damage did you take?

>>121605358
That's a martyr m8

>>121624809
Normal/Roguelike is the way it's meant to be played.

Nightmare iirc is after easy (or was hard, unsure) and it's not too hard, after that it's basically "I jerk off to numbers and spamming detection"

>>121623561
>>121623161
That's just Fearscape. It's an ability. Pretty sure you can get it too.

>>121627714
It's one of the most powerful escape spells in the game but the cooldown is ridiculous so you can only use it once per encounter unless you're doing some weird build that can cheese the cooldown somehow.

>>121627973
Contingency+Temporal Fugue would like to have a word.

>>121626743
Yeah, i wasnt flying for some reason, i didnt even notice..
1st shatter he did was around 145 dmg, i didnt know what hit me cuz i dunno much about magics, log didnt say anything specific and he didnt have a spell under his name when i inspected him so i started to manfight him.. 2nd one did 138 after i healed up

so no new crawl team? i'll host it i just want a decent name people will agree with
i am active daily

>>121628360
teams were already made m8

>>121628519
oh it's too late to sign up another one?
I thought both /rlg/ are full already

>>121628262
Why Temporal Fugue? Are you sure you don't mean Temporal Reprieve?

>>121601981
luring to stairs and resting after every battle is the only safe way to clear v:$ so just use immolation and all buffs to clear the stairs

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What did he mean by this ?? ....

>>121629543
Yeah that's the one, I tried to guess the name from memory.

My bad

>>121610956
>webms with sound work now
THANK YOU MOOT

>>121630104
You just killed his fucking sister. Do you expect him to lie down and die?

>>121628767
rlg only has 5 people iirc

>>121630427
>You
He did
>duvessa is struck by lightning
>you kill duvessa

>>121630942
That's correct. Post your username and hopefully Vidiiot will see it.

>>121631073
I don't think Dowan has static charge. Or any air magic for that matter. I suppose we'd need to see more to know who killed what in the end.

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What trait?

I'm getting pretty deep and dangerous shit like trolls and banshees are showing up.

>>121631878
disarm trap.

>>121630425
What? They've worked in the gif boards for ages now

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15 runes, hopefully no splat.

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Nice.

>>121608761
Ghosts are removed from the pool if the player ever sees them.

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>>121631878
It's getting too intense senpaitachi

>>121634643
That's awesome anon.
15-runes is nice.

>>121634908

Second time going through it. It's quite the experience. Thanks.

Did anything in tome4 get fixed besides temporal wardens?

>>121635386
What else was broken

Wyrmrics got buffed if that's what you mean(and nerfed lol)

>read crown of eternal torment article on chaosforge
>this audible desperation to justify it as not being broken as fuck in the writer's prose
lmao

>>121636108
>What else was broken
Every skill that people never used or only put a single point in. Every skill that did a bunch of weird meaningless shit.

Also, the game chugging when the talent bar started filling up.

>>121637549
>Every skill that did a bunch of weird meaningless shit.

examples?

>>121636108
>Buffed
they're still dumpster tier and they got "nerfed" from "broken if you have severe fuckin autism" to "shit, just shit. At least he's better than rogue"

>>121624626
Nice, keep it up brethren, I havent been able to play today

>>121638081
Many of them are the previously mentioned skills-people-don't-use. The big one is cursed aura.

>>121638265
What happened with wyrmics?

>>121638612
They had a wall that 90% of the things in the game couldn't get past and dealt like 9 damage or so when maxed out. It had lower CD than it had duration, so you holed up and waited until the whole level killed itself on the wall, prayed to NEVER encounter anything that got past your wall and you couldn't kill with your shitnukes

>>121638884
Sounds like something out of poschengband, except the game is actually built around that sort of cheesy play so every high profile dude can tunnel.

What do you want to see in a new roguelike?

I'm programming a very basic C++/ncurses rl for my computer science class as an extra credit project to implement some data structures (stacks, linked lists, binary search trees) and such. I'm going for a very basic DCSS-style game with very limited features since it has to be done in a month and I'm currently almost failing Calc 2. However, I'd like to make it as open-ended and extensible as possible for when I have free time over the winter break. What are some things you'd like to see that current games don't have?

>3 potions of beneficial mutations
>Robust 2 and wild magic

>Encounter an unseen horror
>teleport away
>End up swarmed by bees
>Trying to quaff-id potions for curing/healing because didn't have any id scrolls all game
>Mutation potion
>Frail, -2 int
>very last potion was curing
>die because I only had 1

As a side note, why aren't there any decent gods for Transmuters to follow?
Having to rely on solely jewelry for resists is rough. Ash/TSO give some nice resists and clar/sInv, but you cant get piety with TSO early and Ash can't boost UC, and cursing rings makes swapping them mid-fight impossible.

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>>121634852
Holy fucking shit I swear to god an angels chasing me and it's faster than fuck jesus christ stay the fuck away from Luminous Avengers senpai HOLY SHIT

Posting message log and greentext story after

>>121639212
ToME4 used to be built around bullshittery, but when it came to steam people suddenly wanted "blaance"

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fucking finally got my first win

>>121640126
As a transmuter you are become god.

>>121639507
Why not go ask on #rgrd (quakenet)?

>>121640126
As a transmuter you become a god, anon
DGTm best combo
if you truly need a crutch, pick Fedhas or Okawaru or Jiyva
if you don't need a crutch, pick Sif or something else that's athiest+

>>121641059
Will do, thanks.

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>>121640446
>stealthing about
>having a good time
>see an orc grenadier in room almost covered in oil
>cast grease on the grenadier
>it walks in
>entire room becomes light fuck of doom
>cast blink because grenades+oil=bad
>it doesn't blink me out the room, only near an exit in the top right
>cast leap because I thought it would fucking leap me instead of just being a buff
>smashed by a grenade into wall, run into exit
>avenger starts shooting fucking holy light at me
>throw orb of confusion at it
>it teleports behind me
>read passage end up about 13 tiles away from it
>figure it safe and go to explore
>turn 1 darkness
>turn 2, from the hallway I -just- left light fills up room
>turn 3 it's in the fucking room with me and coming towards me
>run down into another room as it's shitting out light at me, and run into a hallway
>it's about to catch up, throw shielding at my feet
>it catches up but thanks to shielding survive for a couple more turns
cont

>get hit by grenade and launched into wall

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>>121641506
>quaff haste and begin running the fuck away while blinded, because its melee attacks can do that, even if blocked
>start running into another room, while it's shooting me with more holy ass light, get 21 HP before making it into the next room
>take screenshot as even with haste it's still faster than me and about to enter the room
>throw an orb of fog at the ground so it can't shoot the shit out of me
>it gets near because it can't see through fog
>It has 6 hp
>stab it

I have no idea how the fuck it got so low, but thank god

>>121642346
Does anyone know if Leap activates neck snap?

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>>121643137
Current choices

>>121644012
drive back obviously

>>121640126
>Having to rely on solely jewelry for resists is rough
Blade Hands only melds gloves though...

>>121644101
I'm stealth as fuck though, with hella magic

>>121644012
Whirlwind style sounds like sil flanking. I guess you don't have something like dodging though.

>>121644636
I automatically dodge the first attack of any enemy, that's a passive I have, and yeah it's like Sil flanking.

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YOU FUCKING SHIT

>characters that want to Tm probably can't use most gear
>characters that can't use most gear probably want mutations
>characters that want mutations want Jiyva
>characters that want Jiyva can't use Tms best spells or their mutations won't work
help

>>121645605
>mutations
>Jivya
>You feel robust.
>You feel frail.
>You feel robust.
>You feel frail.
Try Xom. Jivya is for liquefying uniques and lolnoloot.

>three Mi wins
jesus christ /rlg/ I knew you were scrubs but not to this extent.

>>121597020

all balrugs can be wracked in holy pain after what they did to my ass hole in hell

>>121646941
balrugs are different from balrog
Balrog is a LotR demon thing, balrugs are DCSS demon things

>>121644203
I was implying Dragon form since I usually play DrTm, but I could see using boots/cape in blade hands if necessary.

>>121628360
Go ahead and make it!
I posted a few ideas in the thread before last. Can't Mu No Mo', Morgoth Being Silly, and Foul Double Minotaurs were a few of those. Use one of those if you like.

>>121646904
Does anyone in this thread even play Felid?
Or Octopode?

>>121648083
>Fe
>Op

SCREW THAT
MuMo
GIMME A MuMo WIN

>>121646904
Gotta get them easy points for the tourney. Anyone can ascend a Mi, but I feel like most people have a pet combo that they endlessly splat.

>>121646904
Wish me luck and I'll try to pull through on this CeAr^Nem

>>121648517
Good luck anon

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>>121644012
no No NO NONONONONO

HELP

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Holy shit. Can't believe I found this. Should help me out a lot since I'm trying to get the Darkness III Banner (no Orc, no Lair, and no Vaults).

I should go to sleep, I just splatted because I didnt realize a P was Atlas and not some random giant

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>>121651337
Break the idols?

>>121650771
And nevermind. Should have quit when I got abyssed and taken a break.

Did Crawl invent banishment?

>>121653452
i'm sure it existed in some tabletop games before crawl

>>121653554
It's not the same if you're not wasting time dealing with annoying level design combined with annoying monster spawns.

>>121653717
Those are both things that a dick/genius GM/DM can handle.
In fact I've had just that experience when a campaign took the party into the Elemental planes. Oh boy I hope you like extradimensional mazes and monsters phasing through the walls.

>want to try Forays
>both .exes crashe on new game start
Anyone else got this problem?

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>>121654575
run the console version senpai?

TIME TO BURN IT

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>>121654904
Well I killed it with no problems, but something else started throwing fire at me so I bailed the fuck out, and now this

Am I fucked?

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What a randart.

Anyone else think that most of the furyband classes play similarly? Just doesn't seem like they are as unique as pcb's.

>>121655768
They do, furyband hasn't been updated in years though, and isn't as balanced as PCB, so I feel things got added without a chance to be smoothed out

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>>121655343
Am I gonna win senpaitachi? One more floor to go, spirit or magic?

>>121656171
Two more floors I mean

>>121656171
>>121656483
>tfw everyone playing Mi's in crawl for easy wins instead of something new

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>>121657071
Some of us are playing other shit, we're just splatting them endlessly. Is it better to take the easy wins, or to suffer through endless splats that are all your fault?

>>121658013
Easy wins with boring races aren't fun tho

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>>121658282
I quite like SpEn and the various easy mode casters. They atleast have a few choices when shit goes down, rather than "Bash, run or use consumable." Also, has anyone else noticed that ghosts shift their appearance now? Its a nice touch.

Sup /rlg/ Im a total newb to Cataclysm, what graphical tiles should I use, if any at all?
Id like to get a feel for the game, but using ol ascii just doesnt cut it out for me anymore.

>>121659851
its personal preference

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>>121656171
Nigga we made it

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>>121662312
Well they're certain fun enemies in this game that completely ignore stealth and nuke you with 30 damage projectiles, have fun with that senpaitachi

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>>121623161
>I actually planned on not posting until either the character died or I reached the East to not seem like an attention whore
Don't be a weenie, lad. We're here to talk about roguelikes.

>>121640126
>As a side note, why aren't there any decent gods for Transmuters to follow?
Chei, bruv.

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This is the worst case of fault I've had in a while. I should just drop the fucking tele ring, this is the second time I've forgotten about it. Also, Gozag is like a less boring Okawaru. I quite like it.

>>121657071
>>121646904
>2015
>still using Mi as the ezmode option
Why do people insist on pretending that Gr doesn't exist?

>>121666474
>fault
You're alive though?

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>>121667064
I really didn't think I'd survive, since that is the vault end that I ended up in. I can take 2 death yaks if they're in a corridor, so all it would have taken was a little more than that to end me. I lucked out that there WAS a choke point where I landed, and that I could use the Catoblepi to petrify and poison a bunch of death yaks. A jelly ate the treasure in the little vault I'm standing in as recompense, but I got a ring of rF so its all good.

What is "good" in TOME? I've been trying to make a strong character so I can explore the game, but I keep on losing them around level 10-12 because I actually start exploring and then something hacks through 2 shield runes and my HP bar in <10 turns.
My last character was a Cornac Brawler. He used Rush to get up close to the most dangerous enemy in sight, then Grappled them to pieces while dodge-tanking with Tactical Expert and whittling down the surrounding enemies with Counter-Attack. I think it was a good strategy because that Brawler was easily longest-lasting TOME character I've ever had, but he died (admittedly, of my own hubris) so I'd like to try another build for him now

What should I be looking for in Brawler equipment? Stat-boosts? Damage bonuses? Extra elemental damage on hit?
For that matter, what should I be looking for in skills? Direct damage? Passive bonuses? Sustains? Mobility?

I've always prioritized "speedy" skills over damage skills, simply because speed is so important in so many other games, but is it the case in TOME? Or is high damage, loads of resistances/defenses, etc. the best?

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you barely miss Pikel
Pikel is extremely wounded
Pikel hits you but does no damage
You hit Pikel
Pikel evaporates reforms as a golden eye!

>>121668068
>Using chaos
I bet you killed Yiuf, didn't you? You couldn't just leave him to wonder why his hammers look so weird now. Seriously though, the golden eye might be easier to kill if you're in a hallway. It'll just be annoying as fuck.

>>121668441
Nope. I started as a chaos knight and immediately abandoned Xom.

>>121668441
also the slaves are still allied with the golden eye

>>121668441
ok it's over, a pack of demons got summoned on me when I was stumbling around trying to fight it :^)

>>121666183
Chei is not a "good" god for transmuters, I'd rather take Sif and she does almost nothing

Why the fuck cant I dl 0.17 off the download page?
The only ver available to dl there is 0.16.2

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>>121669693
You are aware that blade hands gets 1 damage for every point of strength and dex you have, right? That is +30 base damage, not counting all the other nonsense you get in return.

>>121669943
I'd still rather have haste and 10 aut movespeed. Going slow is just such a liability that it's not worth it and you have to rely on your god abilities. Same reason why Qazlal is not a "good" god, you end up having to rely on him.

>>121670156
Chei is definitely one of the more powerful gods for a transmuter though, since they benefit the most from +15 to str/dex. A lot of the fun in crawl is had when you choose the very powerful but risky gods like Chei or Qaz. Chei and Qaz aren't "bad", but suboptimal.

>>121670508
The issue here is that people think Chei and Qaz are really good, but they're not.

>>121666553
Mi is for straight killdudes who are good at everything killdude related. Gargoyles have a bunch of useful shit that's not directly related to combat but which greatly benefits almost any character.

>>121667976
How many points are you investing into pugilism, finishing moves and unarmed training? Those are your bread and butter skill trees, and the other ones aren't very good in comparison. I have a level 18 brawler in Dreadfell and all but 2 class points and 4 generics went into those trees or combat training.

You might also be underestimating the value of damage. It sounds to me like you want to tank things to death, but brawlers are one of the burstier melee classes. Dodge tanking also isn't really a good idea, since a lot of enemies and bosses end up having really high accuracy for no reason. Besides, being able to kill things quickly is one of the best ways to reduce how much damage you take.

For items, it doesn't really matter. Light gloves are better because they have better attack speed, but heavy gloves have higher base damage. Just look for stuff with good base damage, since on-hit effects aren't affected by damage multipliers.

Speed is good in TOME, but high damage and resists are more important. Movement speed isn't that relevant outside of escaping, and there are a lot of inscriptions and abilities that do that better.

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After being relegated from the ongoing 4cc, I have time to work on /rlg/ team for for the /vg/ league!
I will soon begin making the team in PES (the game we use to simulate matches).
If you have any issues with the roster as it currently stands, please let me know!
We still need a goal horn and a better logo would be nice.
Links:
Wiki: http://implyingrigged.info/wiki//rlg/
Suggestion Box: https://www.suggestionox.com/r/tQ0zIC

Please respond, we really need a goal horn. It doesn't need to be from a roguelike, it just needs to be upbeat and HYPE.

>>121671607
https://soundcloud.com/mcfreshdawg3000/wagner-feat-mayuri-shiina-ride-of-the-tutururies-extended-version

>>121671741
kek'd heartily

>>121671607
I believe we suggested some of the original music from DoomRL

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>tfw you will never get Green draconian scales

I wish they'd remove mottled and pale as possibilities, they're absolutely useless and boring.

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>>121672952
:^)

FREE mephitic clouds

Ru or Makhleb for GrFi?

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I have to say, Gozag is really strong when you don't have to fear the hunger cost. I'm fucking decked out in cool shit. I feel a little squishy, but that'll be less of an issue once I find something better than a +0 FDA.

>>121673472
I'm going to be straight with you here:
the top three colors are yellow, grey, and purple

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hold me /rlg/

>>121673753
anon, it's time to become a god
drop two !exp on UC and faceroll the dungeon

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Help. I'm having fun as a tablord.

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>>121673753
>>121673981
Welp, it's time to become a god.

2 !exp, a wand of heal wounds, and the first book I found is book of the dragon.

The crawl deities are calling on me to be the first to get the Brute Force III banner.

>>121672942
youtube.com/watch?v=uNpPcFMZNV4
or
youtube.com/watch?v=WfJdgo1Cgt8

I like the former more.

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>>121673650
Gozag's drop is pretty nice.
I worshipped him several times and always get great equipments.
His wrath is also manageable, unlike Trog.

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FUCK.

>>121680515
Tp, your best bet
Blinking will kill you

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>>121680515
GOD DAMN IT. IT WAS UNSEALED FOR LESS THAN A TURN. What do?

>>121680656
>>121680618

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>>121680656
This is seriously a bad situation.

>check the page announcing DCSS's 0.17 release
>see this: "Reducing the amount of levels in the lair branches is also nice. I’m hoping for some more levels being cut in the future, but it’s definitely an improvement as it is right now."

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>>121680806
Vault rune never ever.

>>121680895
Reduces the amount of tedium and experience you get. It isn't a bad change overall.

>start a new run in DCSS
>altar of Okawaru right there on the first floor

Playing a demonspawn gladiator. Should I go for it or go with Makhleb instead?

>>121681398
It's chokowaru time

>>121648508
DsAr is my waifu

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Do you guys think it'd be worth it to get enough magic skills to get rMissile/blink online? I have a few books that have passage of gol and phase shift as well. I feel pretty rock solid as it stands, and I'd like to try to get more than 3 runes if possible. Surely nothing can go more wrong than Mennas, right? Also, when should I ditch Gozag? And for which god should I ditch him for?

http://pastebin.com/VcN60Zgx

Are there any decent roguelikes that don't require much attention and are fairly mindless dungeon crawls?

>>121682776
DCSS. I'm not even memeing.

>>121682557
Mahkleb would be alright, summons and ranged damage all in Invocations with HP on Kill

Honestly I would consider Ashenzari, fully cursed you should have no problems getting piety in Pan and Abyss. And if you want support magic, I think his skillboost is the only thing that can help you (except Cheibriados but if you're asking for advice you probably have no business worshipping Chei)

>>121682885
But DCSS is shit

>>121682885
DCSS requires pretty constant attention unless you've become really strong

a character who can otab yak packs 1v1 may well get splattered if he gets cornered and has to fight 6 at once

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>>121683105
>Mummy of Chei
I really thought about it, but I figured I'd see what you guys had to say. I have a few wins with Chei under my belt, and I'm quite fond of him. It seems really perilous and I'm not so skilled with mummies as it is.

>>121683342
Well, if you know what you're doing Chei will definitely give you more options than ash, especially if you want to pick up more than just melee support spells.

Just don't tab your way into Tomb and eat 12 Dispel Undeads from Anubis Guards

>>121683183
Exactly, so is any Rogue-like that would not require much attention while being mindless.

Clarity or Warding for .16 Tomb?

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>>121683680
The more I think about it, the harder this becomes. Ashen gives innate clarity for a free amulet swap to guardian spirit or warding, and will essentially max out my skills which would open up all incoming experience for magic and fighting. But Chei offers much more raw power and potential nuke spells if I'm really dedicated to them. Mahkleb seems like a very safe pick, but I've never been a big fan.

>>121683919
Warding. You should have enough MR to avoid anything clarity would help with, or you'll have a bad time. The warding will keep you safe from the hordes of summoned emperor scorpions and the rN will help with those statues that shit out drain clouds/torment.

>>121684286
Thanks, anon.

>Boot up dda for old time's sake
>Land in an evac a previous run used
>Ignore everything but the fridges, go steal sheets and rags from town
>Day 1 craftathon complete
>Day 2 and 3 scavenging tools, wood, cloth, and foraging
>Day 4 the edge of a horde flips a zombie brute to me. Have to pull him insive the evac shelter and get help from the NPC to kill it
>Read to get soem time
>Try to sneak out on the side that looks pretty clear
>Aggro a corrosive zombie
>Evade through a forest and fields of giant ants but I don't have pretty much any survival stuff on me
>Find a nice situation of trees with a nook that blocks LoS on 3 sides
>Spend days foraging while famished and dehydrated until I forage a gallon jug to make a makeshift funnel, some leather from lab body drops to make leather funnels and start filling foraged plastic bottles
>Manage to forage enough rags/canvas before the lab body find to craft a fire drill and stone pot so I can eat
>Digging stick till during one of the good breaks where I had a little food and water to spare. Plant some veggie stems
>More foraging. Finally get a stone axe and start working on felling trees to finish getting my storage hut built
>Another horde is nearby
>Get greedy and go kill some of them for leather drops
>Sleep
>Wake up to a feral predator munching my face off
>Beat him to heavily wounded before dying
Shoulda made muh pits first thing. Muh trench warfare. Fag that made them take 2 hours vs 40 minutes in vanilla is shit though.

>>121686176
>Using pits
>Not caltrops
Caltrops are portable spike pits anon. You can make them with nails and a hammer. If you want fast pits, you can edit the construction time in world gen to get them down to something like 10 minutes per pit.

>>121686343
Didn't know about the non-forge recipe. Thanks. Still needs a bolt cutter possibly. Anyway, think I'm gonna just do an archery -> ramming run instead of a bard run.

>have best run ever, be mid lair
>quaf mutation pot
>dopey 1, clarity, deterioration 1
I just want to suicide

>>121687145
That' s not bad at all though. Heck, Just wear sustab and spam a CBoE if you're a caster. If you're not, it's still fukken nothin.

>>121687145
Deterioration should never bother you in .17 or trunk. You should always be gaining enough experience to offset the drain. Wear sustab, use regen if you have it and do NOT wait around if possible. As long as you're moving forward and killing dudes, you should be 100% fine.

>MR++
>Zot: 5
'ere I go, lads

>>121687836
RIP

>Can't fire unfletched fire-hardened arrows
Well fucking fuck you too faggots. Remembering why I stopped playing dda.

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I am deeply conflicted right now.

The story behind this is that unique hydra in Swamp kicked my ass so I retreated to level back elsewhere. Did spiders, then went to Elven Halls since I have good MR.

Found a WizLab for the first time, cool. I enter it, nothing inside except for one guardian mummy and this weird ass empty big room. Then shit happens, walls disappear and some funny undead get revealed. I already killed a few fire giant zombies and mummy priests for a (shitty) randart large shield and quicksilver dragon armour, now I see this.

First time I see a gold dragon armour in this game, first time I see an ancient lich as well. What do I do? If you want to advise killing myself, you don't have to, I'm perfectly capable of that.

Character is VsMo aiming for heavy armor and shield, 11 in Evo.

>>121689545
It's not a randart or even ego so it's likely just a +0. It's not too hard to get a GDA later by enchanting a hide. If you want to try killing it you can. With agility, finesse, might and blink scrolling over you probably good before it gets in any of its multitude of ass shattering spells. On the other hand. Many of those pillars contain monsters and if I remember right there's at least 4 high-class ancient lich quality monsters that can pop up. Mind the noise and hold onto your butt if you go for it.

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Second win ever, boys. Swamp, Spider, Slime, Vaults, Tomb.

>>121689545
By the time you're normally fighting ancient liches, you're also fighting live golden dragons. This fight might be winnable, but retreating is probably the smart option.

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>>121690491
>Oh shit nerf summoning it's too OP

MEANWHILE, IN NECROMANCY

>>121691231
didn't mean to respond woops

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FUCK JUGGERNAUTS JESUS CHRIST. DON'T MIND ME, I'LL JUST HIT FOR 80 THROUGH 30 AC/38 EV. DEPTHS ARE WORSE THAN ZOT AT THIS POINT.

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>worship Gozag as an OgFi
>see this in my very first store
Oy vey, what to do

>>121691810
Splat before you get enough money.

>>121691810
Save money for it obviously
Speed is incredible

>>121691731
Problem with balancecrime anon? I'll get you some extra caustic shrikes asap.

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So assuming that an Eveningstar and a Demon Whip are fully enchanted, which one would be better for TSO to bless?

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>>121691231
>balance intensifies

>>121692070
Evening star. Gets past AC more and has a higher holy wrath damage. DWhip is better when it's regularly breaking past AC which is iffy in endgame.

>>121691891
>>121692034
Update, just had to waste about 360 gold to buy effects from gozag and survive fuckin Pikel and a centaur pincer attack
...that while I was like 50 gold short of it

>>121692070
Evening star
More dmg, you lose 0.2 delay i think so..

>>121692194
>>121692320
Thanks, I'll do that then.

>enter L:5
>move a few tiles in one direction
>nothing in field of view
>sentinel mark out of fucking nowhere, literally
>what the fuck, run back to stairs
>8 headed hydra behind corner, instantly eats chunk of my hp
>a million spiky frogs
>two millions other dudes like yaks and blink frogs
>2 rounds pass
>2 HP left
>blink
>survive
>go back
>rek everything, there's no sentinel, there's no hydra

what the fuck happened?

>>121692481
Alarm trap.

>>121692481
One of the monsters set their foot on an alarm trap probably

>>121692481
Should have leveled traps and doors higher bruh.

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Fucker parked himself in front of the rune.

>food shops
why do these exist