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HAURCHEFANT IS ASLEEP edeadition

>Patch 3.1: So Goes Light, So Goes Darkness:
>Patch notes:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/cc5b2ba8ffd64cef26cb0e0cdac97104f8e7308e

>Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkRTO7co_Yc

>Letter from the Producer:
XXIV: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/269279
XXV: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/269284

>FF14 Resources
(Includes: /xivg/ Free Companies/Linkshells & Resources/Guides.)
http://pastebin.com/cRb2g2PA

>Previously on /xivg/!
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>be bored with ff14
>no will to go on
>no will to level other classes
>que up for a dungeon anyways
>work out during my 20 minute dps que
>castrum
>whatever
>4 player comms
>feel oddly better
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1st for tataru deck too strong
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nth for busting out sightseeing logs in hope that the penguin minion comes from that like >>121481078 said

>>121487043
>not linking the last thread
NEVER LET A ROOKIE DO A PROS JOB
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xth for old threads
>>121422550
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cat
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>>121487240
>>121487294
never let a pro do a pro's job either apparently

>>121462594
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xth for accepting bf/gf applications
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>>121487294
WRONG WRONG WRONG
>>121462594
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>>121487213
she is the gary oak of triple triad and you know it
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>>121487315
Why do all cat players pick the fat face?
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>>121487374
>>121487294
Fuck
I'm retarded
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>>121487418
kth for please post c@s…
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>>121487352
just get mumu
he will lick anyone's feet as long as you give him attention and pretend he isn't a sad loser
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nth for highlanders
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xth for RIP Aymeric
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New to this game and queing up for First coiil is dead and all I ever see is Third/Final on PF. The fuck do I do? I want to at least play them through so I can unlock minstrel's ballad so I can do the new one when it gets released but it seems like an impossible dream now.
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>>121487545
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>>121487558
Do it with friends
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>10 fewer Esoterics per Neverreap / FC run

I didn't see anything about the daily bonus being increased. If it isn't, it means you'll have to run Expert every single day, or fill the gap with a pointless Neverreap / FC / Alex run.

Someone please tell me I missed something.
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>>121487556
who dunnit
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>>121487558
I meant binding coil
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>>121487558
You don't need to do coil to unlock Ultima's Bane.
You also wont need to do Ultima's Bane to get into the new Minstrel's.

If you still want to do Coil, set up a PF thing yourself or gather your friends and go for it.
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>>121487478
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>>121487765
thank you…
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>>121487478
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>>121487765
you posted the butt the other day too right?
your style is reaaaaaally nice, I love it!
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>385,000 players
Heart of Thorns really DID kill this game
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>>121487693
Tataru
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>>121487887
thank you too…
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>tfw every time you try to make friends with someone Abe is miraculously there to jump in and steal them away
>they always lose interest and get obsessed with Abe
>Abe jumps to the next person and leaves them desolate and they no longer want to be friend with anyone
Really, fuck you Abe.
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>>121487545
Midlanders tb.h.
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>>121487352
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>>121488138
>Autism
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>>121488138
>wanting to be friends with Dreamerr
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>>121488138
>tfw haven't experienced this
>only thing abe and i did was chit chat and he gave me 50k gil
Feels good.
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Should I send a grown man a picture of my dick? They sent me theirs, and it seems rude not to send one back.
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>>121488138
>you cant have multiple friends
xivg, gents
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>>121487907
Yep, that was me. And thanks, i really appreciate it.
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>>121488247
I don't think that cat is him, I asked around.
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>>121488526
Only if you want to be afraid that it might be posted here forever.
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>>121488526
POST IT POST IT POST IT POST IT
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>>121488526
That sounds like a pretty hetero thing to do, you should go for it
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>>121488138
i log in on an alt like every 2 days and talk to them what

>>121488321
arent you the lizard or am i misremember
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>>121488791
misremembered is not a word
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What did she mean by this?
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So what caught your eye the most in the patch notes?
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>>121489009
New music
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>>121487160
>Hyper Viper Beam intensifies
HATE
HATE
ALL OF MY HATE FOR YOUR BROKEN ASS

ALL OF IT. YES I'M SALTY

Good work though
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>>121488949
She's going to fuck everyone in 3.1 and thats why she vanishes from TT
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>>121488865
>retard
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>>121489097
best fighter best game
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>>121489009
ERP camera
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>>121487545
Highlanders!?
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>>121489142
>falling for it
:^)
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>>121488526
If it's Elk, don't do it. They (she?) has a collection of dick pics for blackmail.
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Kinda new player here, how the fuck do you guys level up a second (or beyond) class? Are you telling me I have to grind the same leves over and over and over again or hope for a FATE train to come along so I can farm the same boring FATEs for about 8 hours to go from lvl 42-45? Can't deal with this shit man, even the grind in shit like Skyforge or Tera goes faster.

Also are they good looking outfits for a male Roe SMN? I got kinda tired of my WAR because tanking in this game is a really unthankful job.
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>>121489210
I didn't realize they gave men boobplate now.
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>>121489009
Will come in handy for PvP.

Can anyone explain LoVM? I still find it confusing even after reading patch notes.
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>>121487315
cat2
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>>121487105
Please don't bully me, this emote makes me really sad...
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>>121489336
>(She?)
Absolutely not the nigga sounds like batman and looks like an emo teen
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>>121489464
dungeons
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>>121489617
lmao yeah
he sounds like he smokes 10 packs of dick cigs every hours like holy shit
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>>121489336
lies and slander

>>121489617
>sounds like batman
this meme needs to go
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>Huge fucking update
>Still doesn't add more ranks to the fucking Grand Company

One Job, Square.
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>>121489772
stop eating rocks then
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>>121489336
That's kind of hot... desu...
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>>121489464
Dungeons if you're not leveling a DPS job.
Podcasts and audiobooks if I'm grinding FATEs. The big FATE grinding areas all have PF groups up at reasonable times in non-dead servers.
Leveling alts takes significantly less effort because of the experience bonus you get for playing a class that's lower level than your highest.
Lastly, and perhaps most importantly, is to only level alt jobs you actually give a shit about, and to not rush it so you don't get burned out.

Stop whining you big baby.
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>>121489580
Are you two on
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Disaster patch.
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The success of 3.1 depends almost exclusively on how long 3.2 takes to arrive.
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>>121489794
it's dead.
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>>121489772
Then what nigga do you eat spicy food all day
Are you terrified
Do you filter your voice through white noise
Why you sound like I picked a bad station in my car
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c@ butt
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>>121489843
what the heck i dont eat rocks

i had a shitty broken mic for a while my voice is nice...

>>121489865
oh maybe i can pretend... for you..
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>>121490158
Pretend... Pretend what..
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>>121490072
>3.2 will save the game

lol.
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>>121489009

primal crafting drop profiteers on suicide watch
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>>121489986
Playing gta rn but I can hop on.
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>>121490296
No worries, I'm leveling right now, I was just asking
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>>121490158
>i had a shitty broken mic for a while my voice is nice...
If sounding like you smoked 9 packs a day is a nice voice, I must have a voice that was dipped in chocolate.
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Ravana min ilvl is 175

It drops 190 weapons

Whatll it be for Thordan?
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>>121490134
>Are you terrified
a little bit i get really nervous on voip and end up talking really quietly..

>>121490249
that i keep a blackmail collection..

>>121490353
youre gonna need better bait than that kid
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>>121490350
What exactly do they do?
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>>121490143
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>>121490353
Nigga sounds like he just ate a ton of chocolate and spicy food and hasn't had a THING to drink in 3 weeks
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>>121490440
offer you sex
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>>121490382
Requires 190, drops 205.
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>>121490416
>bait
Not bait but whatever, have your delusions.
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>>121490382
Thordan is 190 and the weapons will likely be 205
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>over 1000 comments on the reddit thread about the patch notes
>can't read over 500 without PAYING

Why do people like reddit again when you can't even view it all?
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>>121490342
I was on but got lonely and depressed so playing something else…
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>>121490529
>>121490614
I hope so!

A couple people i know think it'll be 200. Id like to hear their excuse rather than them just admitting theyre wrong
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>>121490529
>>121490614

210, you guys are so silly.
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>>121490643
>paying

what, I don't reddit but surely they dont run a premium service thing, surely.
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>>121490614
I hope they are 210 :^)
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>>121490539
slightly better but still obvious
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>>121490751
They will definately be better than 200 since Yoshi stated that these weapons would hopefully help people who were still stuck on A3/A4/

If 200 then it's not really going to help as people have their Eso ones.

>>121490802
pic related

https://www.reddit.com/gold/about
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>>121490643
Why would you want to read anything but the highest rated comments?
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>>121489009
I can't wait to see dps finally able to hit 500 dps in their i210 H U N T S grinded gear.
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>>121487352
ill be ur bf if ur ok with me being extremely rough with you in bed but cuddle and whisper sweet sweet nothings in your ear out of it.
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>lonely
>nobody to cuddle and do cute things with on Balmung
>all of them want to fuck
;;
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>>121491056
maybe..

>>121491138
literally perfect you win

>>121491176
do you like hyur...?
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>>121491061
Because highest rated comments are nothing but witty shit followed by a quote chain that is barely on topic.
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>>121491176
fanta into a male and let's be lonely together
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>>121491024
Jesus fucking christ

>up to 1500 comments at a time

so what if it's even longer?
that shit seems so fucking shady.
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>>121491176
I can beat you with a riding crop while you lick the dust off the furniture in my private chambers, how's that for cute and cuddly?
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>>121490653
Sorry...
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>>121490783
>>121490815
I would laugh if that was the case. 210 with perfect secondaries.
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>>121491673
It really wouldn't bother me if it were i210, but i205 is much more likely. I also think that Gordian should be bumped up to i215 (along with the relic in 3.15) and the Gobdips should be moved down to A3S, though.
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>>121491364
then suffer. people only want to read the top funny comments anyway.
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>>121492113
makes me glad I don't use that site honestly. as fucking stupid as people are here, at least it's pretty much free
apart from the data gathering
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>>121489009
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Is there still no way to bind teleport locations to a hotbar?
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>>121487662

Can we talk about this for a second?
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>>121492610
I'm out.
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>>121492610
dang bro do some squats at least
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>>121492759
Nothing to talk about, there's no change. I would imagine that kotr and void ark give a small amount of eso as well, but whatever
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I apparently cant get Monks down, if its an AoE I need to get out of to fuck with my rotation, its an ADD tank/casting enemy targeting someone else that fucks up my positional damage. Here is what I do as a monk:

Dragon Kick>Twin Snakes>Demolish>Bootshine>Truestrike>Snap Punch>BS>TS>SP and repeat. I tend to pop Blood for Blood after Demolish, and Internal Release after Bootshine

Is my rotation fucked up, or should I just say fuck it and consider Ninja or Dragoon?
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>>121492759
They're nerfing Eso gains? For what purpose?
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>>121492759
they're dumb. two new dungeons will be getting expert roulette bonus/more eso. neverreap/fractal being moved off expert roulette.
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I don't really like au ra that much but this one was pretty cute.
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>>121489009
anyone got source?
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>>121493180
yeah patch notes are here

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/cc5b2ba8ffd64cef26cb0e0cdac97104f8e7308e
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>>121491024
>i200 to i210 is +2 for most Jobs
>i200 to i210 for MCH/BRD is only +1
>i205 weapon is just a big fuck you for physical ranged
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>>121493310
You know what I meant.
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>>121487662
>>121493085
To encourage people to do the new dungeons rather than storm through fractal/nevercast in 12 minutes.
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Woodland shitposter has been eliminated. Good work.
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>>121492759
It always works that way. Older dungeons give lower Capped-Tomestone rewards once they're shuffled out of the Expert Roulette, and the new Expert Roulette dungeons give as many Capped-Tomestones as the old ones used to.

It's not going to matter because you'll be getting your Esoterics from airships anyway.
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>>121492610
why you idiot
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>>121493506
literally who
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>>121493412
>tfw it's 220
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>>121493412
All they have to do is make the BRD/MCH Thordan weapons i205 with Crit/Det secondaries (Crit being the high stat), and they'll be noticeable half-step upgrades between i200 and i210.
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>>121493173
Stop being a creep she is probably terrified of you
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>>121493412
You raise a very, very good point.
They could raise the gordian/upgraded eso weapon to +2, then give the Thordan weapons +1
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>>121492759
There's nothing to talk about
Run Ex for 75 then run L60 roulette for 50 more
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>>121493680
inb4 they're i210 just like how leviathan weapons were i95 like allag weapons from t5
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post yfw relics are started after collecting a drop in void arc and everything else is through exploration and specialized crafting
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>xiv players so used to taking it in the ass they can't fathom thordan weps being 210
>will never imagine a world where they aren't gazing up at A4S raiders cocks even in a catch-up patch.
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>Str MTs
>Tanking in dps stance
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>>121494023
Welcome to 2013
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>>121493804
Leviathan didn't come until 2.2 when T5 was unlocked. 2.1 had i90 weapons that came from Primal Focus, but they bumped Gordian weapons up to i95 so they'd still have an advantage.

There's a very real possibility that they'd do that again, and make Gordian weapons i215 in 3.1 so that they'll still be desirable even when i210 weapons are commonplace. But I think the Thordan weapons will still not be higher than i205. They're probably reluctant to even do that and wanted to make them i200, but pretty much everything about this patch is about shoveling gear at people to help mitigate some of the damage that Savage Alexander did to the level of interest in raiding.
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>>121494023
u mad
>>121493891
AAAAAAAA
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Kind of feel like dropping this and playing the XI final hurrah shit instead.
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>>121494090
>Str tanks act like they were around 2.5
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>>121493004
bump
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>>121494227
do you need a dentist?
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>>121493930
>tfw it's 210
>tfw they nerf AS3/4 even if Thordian is 210
>tfw nothing challenging in 3.1
>Nothing to look forward to accomplishing
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>>121494248
Thanks for the update.
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>>121494305
I was tanking with str accs in T1-4 progression.
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>>121494023
You did commend them for making the run faster...right?
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>>121493704
I've been told before that i'm pretty intimidating. I'm actually a pretty big softie though.
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>>121494446
"Progression" is generally referred only to savage, anon.
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>>121494498
Youre intimidating in the same sense that a homeless man masturbating on public transport is.
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>>121494305
They were definitely around in 2.5/2.55, or maybe even late 2.4, but yeah anyone who thinks that there were main tanks during progression phases that were decked out in full STR is doing some pretty heavy revising of the game's history in their head.

Prior to Alexander, STR was for the off-tanks (if you weren't just solo-tanking) and for once you had the fights on a really comfortable farm. Otherwise, it was Fending or melded the whole time.
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>>121494406
needs a mercy killing
or, failing that, a beard to reflect their rl neckbeard
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>>121494410
>Nothing to look forward to accomplishing
if the first implementation of savage back in coil is any indication, no one actually wants a challenge, they just want loot. if the ilvls weren't there so many statics wouldn't have tried and failed against A3S.
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>>121494498
Everyone in this game is a softy. No sarcasm, teasing or joking around allowed. Softies, all of you.
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>>121494461
>Tank dealing 900dps instead of 500
>Somehow imagines this is better than the 1k+ the healer could be doing but can't because they have to keep the tank's squishy ass alive
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>>121494626
What kind of low bait is this? Put some effort into it.

>>121494661
>Prior to Alexander, STR was for the off-tanks
Your raid group was shit.
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>>121494776
If the tank taking 20% more damage causes you to panic and spam heal, you need to git gudder.
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>>121494678
That's a stupid comparison. Savage Coil was a failure not because it didn't have stronger loot, but because it shared a lockout with regular Second Coil.

There are a lot more people who are willing to take on a challenge that has no material reward than there are people who are willing to take on a challenge that could easily interfere with rewards that they're already getting elsewhere.
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>>121494661
Every point counted
>War OT has two pieces of slaying, gibs to Headlights
>Swaps one to Fending and survives
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>>121494498
If you're a softie why have you stalked, harassed, and solicited ERP from people who continually told you you're a creepy degenerate who needs to fuck off?

If you're a softie, why did you steal a tomestone out of spite from a 'friend'?

You use a facade to get on peoples good side and get what you want. You're a manipulative whore.
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>>121494776
str does nothing if they know how to use cooldowns, mainly as war where defiance does literally nothing about mitigation.
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>>121494227
You realize it's kinda dumb and practiced in overwhelming numbers by normies who have no idea what they are doing and are imitating with no fucking idea what they are doing because fags keep telling them to switch to str before they l2tank
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>>121494932
next to no one was willing to give up their loot pinata to "challenge" themselves is a solid, irrefutable indicator of this playerbase. loot is 100% what everyone's after.
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>>121494893
It's simple math and eHP, Anon. It comes out to a lot more than just your stance
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tfw u post in the wrong thread
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>Join Roses FC
>Looking forward to making tons of gil
>Turns out everyone just erps each other and no one's really earning any gil except for once in a blue moon
>More and more guys are just making roses alts to join and fuck all the courtesans for free
>People are getting attached to each other and forming relationships

I thought this was supposed to be a whore house...
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>implying anyone would have done current savage alex if it didn't have a higher ilvl loot.

People just want loot and not a challenge

Don't expect future savage modes to be anything but titles.
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>>121494998
Well i mean, it's the same boost.

20% less damage from grit/shield oath

1/.8 = 1.25

To make up for attacks doing the same amount of damage, WARs getting better healing.
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spooked demons
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>>121495079
I have one set of STR accessories and one VIT set of roughly the same ilvl.
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>>121494661
my man ive been playing with tanks in str shit since bcob with the exception of T4/T5 maintank

you have no idea what youre talking about

it just wasn't popularized until later when the lucrezia hype train blew up

>>121494973
>solicited ERP from people who continually told you you're a creepy degenerate who needs to fuck off?
can confirm this happened to me
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>>121495197
I'll pay you anon.. What are your prices..?
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>>121487043
>3.1 actually did save this game
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>>121495269
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>>121495269
is this tank mom??
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>>121494973
>You use a facade to get on peoples good side and get what you want. You're a manipulative whore.
Welcome to the mind of every single ERPing degenerate that acts cutesy in MMO generals.
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>>121495350
>dress like a turboslut
>Harp never even hit on me
What are you guys doing to elicit such responses from him?
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>>121495116
I don't know how to explain this in a way that's simple enough that someone as retarded as you could understand it.
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>>121495346
That makes you a bro
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>>121495214
>tfw I like challenges
>Mentally challenged, so every new fight is a challenge
I guess there IS a bright side to everything! kill me
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>>121495442
haha ebic many upcoats :DDDD

>>121495513
go away
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>>121494973
>If you're a softie, why did you steal a tomestone out of spite from a 'friend'?
>shyvana is still mad about the tomestone
lmao
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>>121494709
Fight me

>>121494634
>>121494973
Stay classy anon.

>>121495350
Let's bang.

>>121495526
It's not true.
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>>121495526
the ones they see as a "challenge" to get to erp are much more desirable

its every mentally fucked erpers dream to despoil the ones who dont and convert them

scarcity (in a sense) increases demand
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>>121495652
hahahahah uglyyy

at least you dont look like my clone now
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>>121495652
You go away first faggot :^)>
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>>121495436
lol wut
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Anybody got the exact math on shield swipe?
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>>121495526
Dunno. I don't dress like a slut, and he apparently really wanted to ERP me. From what I've heard, at least.
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>>121495821
>>121495835
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>>121495757

>its every mentally fucked erpers dream to despoil the ones who dont and convert them

I'm a big erper and I don't have any dreams about that. They tend to be horrible.
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>>121495757
>tfw got all the erpers to think i dont erp so they'll be all over me
>tfw they all think they're the ones that "broke" me

good times boys
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https://nikkisevenffxiv.wordpress.com/2015/11/05/top-10-reasons-rffxiv-is-festering-aids/
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>>121495751
but it is true harp, how many times did i tell you no again?
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>>121495925
le ebin trap card frand :^)V
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[2.0] In an effort to curb RMT activities, the number of friend requests players can send per day (Earth time) will be limited to 5.
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>>121496029
>recommends mr.shitty
Yeah.. no.
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>>121495964
Then you're not one of the aforementioned mentally fucked ones.
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>>121496153
thank you im pretty good at yugioh hmu on YGOPRO
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>>121495868
Ctrl + F "Napkin" in the last thread.
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>>121495835
Can you stop living in the thread? Every time I stop by you're here. You shit all over an entire thread. You're worse than every single avatarshitter combined. At least get a trip or something.
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>>121495868
I heard it was a DPS loss if that is what you wanted to know.

>>121496037
I was just ironically trying to erp you... As a joke..
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>q up the aery
>instant healer q
>time elapsed and a dps missed q
>2nd pop same thing
ohrly.jpg
>3rd q pops
>don't confirm
>4th q
>don't confirm
>wait a minute
>reque
>instant confirmation
>look up members
>tank/ninja premade
>well since they like wasting other people's time I guess I'll return the favor
>keep tank comfortable at 10%
>no heals for nin
>mch gets every card and never gets below 95%
>let tank die a few times
>surprisingly never got kicked
>get to nodhogg
>anon your going to need to heal estinien
>im aware
>o-ok anon, s-sorry
fuck people that let q drain because they're running a premade
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>>121496343
>the world obviously revolves around me

bitch I sleep and play video games most of the time I definitely do not "live in" the thread
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>Tfw Paladin
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>>121495964
ERPer here, I mean it's fun to take someone's first time and all, but honestly the whole "despoiling and converting them" thing is pretty fuckin sickening. If they wanna do it, great, if they don't, don't push.
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Who is playing Fallout 4 instead on the 10th?
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>>121496029
I honestly don't get it. A subreddit can only be as good as the game itself is. Why the fuck are people surprised when its nothing but fluff after a four month content drought? What do they want people to talk about?

This game is so shallow. Rotations were figured out the week of HW release. Stat weights not much long after. Strategies are set in stone. Even the fucking dedicated podcast has so little to talk about they have to whine about reddit every show.
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>>121496339
I forgot to mention
The old shield swipe
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>>121496221
not like im gonna make that many friends anyway...
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>>121496328
ygo sucks ass my man

even pokemon has more varied strategy desu

ill give you that its not the WORST tho, that goes to dbz
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>>121496354
>harp guffy and proci in one picture
where are the other tumors yunny and liora?
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>>121496438
>new raid doesn't have tons of magic damage
>PLD's physical reduction becomes relevant again
>WHY ARE YOU NOT PLAYING PLD ANON EVERY OTHER TANK IS LITERALLY WORTHLESS
I give it one week.
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>>121496438
pld it's honestly favorite tank to heal tho. assuming tank isn't sped.
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>>121496467
>playing a game that needs fanmade bug fixes and mods to get interesting on release

nope
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>>121496467
the bad guy is your son
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>>121496505
>pokemon has a more varied strategy
explain?
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>>121495436

why are they just now fixing problems that have been in since launch? it's fucking baffling. i guess they finally noticed some sub numbers dropping
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>>121496658
you fucking retard click the picture never post again
you piece of shit
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>>121496467
not me
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>>121496029
>Expecting some wah wah casual whining since he leads off with neckbeards
>Number 7 rips casuals a good one as well
>Cosplaying Butter Golems
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>>121496467
Wait, is call of duty: vault warfare coming out that soon?
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>ravana extreme with randoms
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>>121496506
Yunny crawled back to terag
Liora's probably sucking cock somewhere
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>>121496835
oh no we said the same thing how terrible

neck yourself ;)
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>>121496354
I'm talking about that with one person right now
With normal sks you reapply GB with 1 second left on it and I fucking hate math so I don't want to do it myself

I assume it's a dps loss but I still need some proof
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>>121496029
it's ironic how all these posts whining about "groupthink" have only come about due to LBR's reddit complaining

very very ironic
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>they're
>still
>not
>nerfing
>relic
>books
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>>121496270

Oh, I figured mentally fucked just applied to all erpers. My mistake.

>>121496445

Just not my thing I guess. I don't want to feel like I'm holding someone's hand through the whole thing.
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>>121496473
agree. the game has nothing worth talking about at length.
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>>121496438

Your flash still doesn't deal damage :^)
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>>121496937
>bismarck extreme with randoms
>can't even break his back without 25% echo
>>
Lich, Zodiark or Moogle for eng/rus speaker?
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>>121496725
there's a bigger variance in the wincons and strategies different decks use

for example you have item lock, graveyard power, recursion, and some big combos

if you want to play anything relevant in ygo its just speedy xyz/contact/pendulum with the patrick hobin approved set of traps
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>>121497239

didn't tp usage actually go up for plds...? since shield swipe spam was actually good for mitigating tp usage before, and now it's an ogcd ability with a massive cooldown...most times you weren't spamming shield bash anyways...
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>>121496937
You could probably clear it on a JP datacenter.
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>>121496937
>>121497315
>>121497454

>farmed all ravana weps and cleared bismarck/helped clear too via PF on a "ded" aether server before alex even came out

how did you guys even have problems?
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>>121496937
>2.1
>people actually regularly cleared Garuda/Titan/Ifrit EX in the DF
>post 2.1
>addition of new EX primals into the DF delayed by one patch after their introduction

I don't get why they made the change. Clearing primals on alts is a pain since by the time the primals get added into the DF, everyone with any sort of competency would have cleared it by then.
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>>121494849
>Your raid group was shit.

Sorry that I was actually raiding while the content was relevant, I guess?
I'm not talking about like one STR ring, or melded STR/VIT, or anything.

The main tank for the world-first T9 clear had 574 VIT, which is consistent with being almost full-VIT at slightly over i90. The main tank for the world-first T13 clear had 682 VIT, which is full Fending at i110.

Maybe you, personally, were in a group that waltzed into Coil on day one with full-STR tanks, but you would have been very lonely in doing so and it definitely wasn't the best way to make progress.
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>>121496937
Deal with it, you elitist faggot. I no longer need to beg my way into your shitty parties, getting my Rav weapon next week.
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>>121497825
>if the majority wasn't doing it that means nobody did it until 2.5
k
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>>121497837
>actually expecting to clear ravex with df randoms
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>>121497783
No one runs it any more and I am too lazy to get it all started on my own, or ask for help
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>>121496467
>tfw static wants to do stuff on the 10th
>tfw just wanna play FO4
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>tfw I want to cry because I'm lonely
>>121496725
I could actually explain how the pokémon metagame works but it's not worth it.
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>>121497421
Yes, Off-Tank Paladins will now last slightly longer (and by slightly I mean "maybe 30 seconds longer or so) before running dry on TP, and Main-Tank Paladins will actually run out of TP faster than they did before.

The damage boost is well worth the removal of the game's most questionable form of TP management, though.
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>no nerfs to ast/war/smn in pvp
>>
/touch lalas
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>>121498051
Hi where is your A3S clear?
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>>121498129
I know how it works, I just thought that YGO's was more diverse.
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>>121497783
Same here, but I worry for duty finder since those people are worse than party finder.
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>>121498190
use your bullshit oneshot moves. healers are worthless in pvp now.
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>>121498190
>tfw ast/war/smn nerfs won't be until 3.25 because the devs still think those classes are "working as intended" in pvp
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>>121497783

Because the only people doing Bis and Rav EX at this point are shitters who still need the clear and are just getting lumped with other shitters in the same boat.
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>>121498240
Maybe on a eu server with eu statics that fit my schedule
Do you have it?

Ravex has nothing to do with a3s tho
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>>121498260
Oh, if you mean the Pokémon card game then YGO is better.
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>>121498190
>>121498346
Honestly, its pvp. Nobody cares lol. It might even be detrimental if they are nerfed because now shitters dont have an OP job to play so they stop doing PvP.
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>>121498240
>he thinks RavEx is comparable to A3S
shitter detected
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>>121498240
>a3s is the standard
how to spot the shitter who hasn't cleared a4
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>>121498503
I'll admit that video game pokemon is better in some aspects, but overall i like ygo more
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who needs heals for pvp when you can just fell cleave and pain flare everything
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>>121497964
Would it make you feel better if I said that nobody good or relevant did it, and that while it was technically possible to do progression that way it was inefficient and ineffective compared to tanks who stacked defense or tanks who balanced their offense and defense?
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>>121498736
It just sucks that all future level 60 Wolves Den teams are going to be WAR/AST/SMN/SMN with little to no variation.
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>>121498106
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wow this game has the worst grass ever
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hey guys it me
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Cans!
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>>121498852
>wahh there are op comps in pvp content

how fucking new are you to video games
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>>121498605
>>121498619
>Baldung shitters giving a fuck about cheesing A4S
lol
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>>121498930
It used to have the best grass ever.
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>>121498930
I miss the days when the biggest issue was the grass
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A4S isn't hard
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i switched my main from MNK to BLM

did i make a mistake?
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>>121498768
If you look in the rearview you'll see the goalposts you flew right by.
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>>121489009

>The tradable version of the following dyes has been added: Pure White Dye / Jet Black Dye / Metallic Silver Dye / Metallic Gold Dye / Pastel Pink Dye / Pastel Green Dye / Pastel Blue Dye / Pastel Purple Dye / Metallic Red Dye / Metallic Green Dye / Metallic Blue Dye
>more people will be running around with these eyesores now


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l59cg62wqpY
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>tfw realizing you're a megakek and you always let it happen
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>>121499235
You switched to the highest single target damaging class in the game. Congratulations.
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>>121499359
>to
From.
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>>121498129
Why are you lonely anon?
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>>121498932
FUCK OFF IFRIT! NOBODY LIKES YOU!!
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>>121499275
>Dyes obtained before 3.1 remain untradable
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>>121499224
any content past like Bis Ex is hard at 700ms anon.
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>>121499359
*Rules and restrictions apply. You will likely never be top dps. You will be out dpsed by Dragoons and sometimes Warriors.
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>>121499345
what
>>
>>121499456
I've been playing this game for a year now, alone.
>>
>>121497421
Previously it was 190 TP a cycle for all combos. Now Goring costs 10 TP less, 180 TP, so the expense:
>3.0 Goring: 25.333 TP/s
>3.1 Goring: 24 TP/s

If we consider an off-tank rotation of GB-RA-RA it would total 570/560.
>3.0: 25.333 TP/s
>3.1: 24.889 TP/s

TP regen is only 20/s. Divide the difference against your total TP (1000) to find a zero point:
>3.0: 187.5s (3:07.5)
>3.1: 204.5s (3:24.5)
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>>121499575
nin please
>>
>>121499491
aw
>>
world isn't seamless? what is this 2005?
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>>121499689
I know that feel buddy
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>>121500047
PS3 limitations.
It used to be seamless, and had the best graphics ever for an MMO. Check 1.0.
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>>121500058
Which insta wipe mechanic did you ignore?
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>>121498736
>you get 8 man pvp
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why wont 7 people wait for me to view my cutscenes? I just wanna have fun guise.
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>>121499764
not even a nin.
do you know the pain of having anything that requires a server side check taking most of a second? having to wait for your form to change while on a monk, activating berserk taking a full gcd, bloodletter basically being on the gcd, benediction and hallowed taking 2+ seconds to activate, heals constantly late on targets due to ping + animation delay. having to constantly be moving for any aoe phase where markers are on a 1s timer for damage, needing to make your own macro timers to let you know when pancakes are coming on titan so you can move before they appear, aoe markers in general appearing for less than they do for others, being almost unable to pick up adds before people have a full gcd of damage more than you on them.

it's a special kind of suffering I would only wish on the most degenerate of players.
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>>121500161
Wanna be friends?
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>>121500512
It can be solo healed very easily, should be 0 problem to let someone view the cutscenes on their playthrough…
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>>121499270
Sorry, it's not moving the goalposts if I expect you to realize that "People didn't really do this during progression" meant "People who were actually successful during progression didn't do this".

Like there's probably some stupid motherfucker out there who took that weird "Paladins with DEX for more blocks/parries" thing from early 2.4 and decided to try running FCoB with actual Aiming accessories, but I'm pretty comfortable saying "Nobody was doing FCoB progression with a main tank in DEX gear" because that's how irrelevant it is.
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>>121500512
They need to change it so you can't engage the bosses until you finish the cutscene, similar to how you can't start a dungeon until everyone is out of the cutscene.
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>Processing plant
>21k exp from fates
>Level 55
>Azyz Lla
>35k from fates over 50k exp from fates once you reach the level range of the fates

Why are there so many fucking idiots in the game? Why waste time grinding in the processing plant when you could be getting over half the amount of exp per fate in Azyz Lla.
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>>121500795
bots don't work in n.than
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>>121500630
Yea I pulled everything as ast. They tried to "let me die" and watched me solo gaius. Idiots.
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>>121500681
this basically.
in another game I played there was this alternate tank strat for a boss where instead of swaps one tank would use speed boosts to kite one of the bosses and negate the stack mechanic, but most groups tried it once, realised it wasnt worth the effort or risk since even one fuckup and it was a wipe, and it literally required one tank to be god tier amazing. no-one cleared with it, and the only reason it still exists in common knowledge is people used it to carry dead weight tanks in that fight when they were doing it 5 levels above tier.

saying that because you did a special snowflake thing, doesn't mean it was correct or the norm. it's even worse if you act as though you were better just because your own ego is getting in the way.
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>>121501073
>>121500795
I mean Azyz Lla
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NOT THIS MEME
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>>121501319
haven't seen one of those in a while
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>>121500745

More like they need to just take out nearly every single cutscene because they're worthless 'Enemy walks out and makes a pose' shit.
>>
Hey everyone,

We're fully aware of the situation where we're short on male outfits and discussing with the dev. team. For now, I just wanted to give you all a heads up, and let you know that we're adding not only Minfilia's outfit, but outfits for the following members of Scion at the same time:
Thancred
Papalymo
Urianger
Yda
Y'shtola

So hang tight, and keep those great suggestions coming!


Oh boy. Gotta love those UNIQUE LOOKING MALE GEAR

It will probably be unisex too.
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>>121498918
Here's your (you) beard attention whore
>>
>2015

I MEAN COME ON PEOPLE
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>>121501526
Yda's outfit will not only be male-only, but also roegadyn-only
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>>121501319
Could be worse. At least that guy uses no sound alerts. <se.6><se.6><se.7>
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>>121501623
>posts selfie in slutglam
>calls others attention whores

wew lads
>>
THEY RUINED SHIELD SWIPE BECAUSE OF ALL THE DUMB FAGGOTS ASKING FOR IT TO BE OFF THE GCD

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

YOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>121501626
>>>/tv/
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>>121501626
Maybe what the present needs is more past I MEAN COME ON!!!
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>>121501709
THOSE COCKSUCKERS

HOW DARE THEY BOOST MY DPS BY 7%

HOW LITERALLY DARE THEY
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>>121501689
I didn't reply to Osama poster.
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>>121501709
I think the cooldown is the worst offender, but if it was just off gcd it wouldve been fine
>>
>>121498409
What times work for you? What job did you play? PLD, right?

Am I actually trying to recruit people in fucking xivg
>>
>>121501689
Here's your (you) wew lad attention whore
>>
>>121501526
Where's Alphinaud's Heavensward outfit
>>
>>121502034
alphinaud in slutglam when?
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>>121501949
Friday and saturday nights eu time
Pretty shitty, right?

DRK
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>>121501319
>not making a "Continuing to DPS" macro
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>>121502134
Yeah sorry can't help you there. We're an EU static looking for a DRK/PLD but we don't do weekends except for Sundays. Good luck though.
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>>121501867
good for you?
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>>121502486
Asuka is better tee bee aych.
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>>121500796
>ARF on alt
>Handle Ballistics in case I get the next mark, saving the healer
>Other DPS gets marked next, step in
>Healer decides stepping in as well is the best fucking idea ever
Running all the way back you bet your arse he didn't touch Ballistic again
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>>121502570
YOU TAKE THAT BACK I WILL THROW DOWN
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starting to think tataru would be the perfect on this thread by the amount of selfies she distributes
>>
Anyone bought gil before? What's the chance I'll get fucked for buying 20M?
>>
>>121501526
Ignoring bots, 80% of the playerbase plays chicks
Deal with it
>>
What makes MCH weaker than BRD if they don't have their pet out? Seems like they both do the same dps, but MCH gets a pet to do even more DPS.
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>You can now unsync'd farm king mog ex for those whiskers

ITS TIME
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>>121502902
I can finally get my mog ex clear
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>>121502902
I must be the only person in the game that doesn't give two shits about moogle weapons.
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>>121502869
MCH deals significantly less damage than BRD without their turret.
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>>121503131
Get a new outfit.
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>>121503131
you know what helps me when i'm bored? a good old rousing round of fucking killing myself
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>tfw no bf
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>>121500613
any day pal. we arent on the same servers though : ( where you @
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>>121502773
I don't know, man. What server?
Really desperate to sell some gil on Balmung for subscription time.
>>
If Shyvana and Harp have reconciled, then who is the Anti-Harpfag?
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>>121502481
It's hard to find people on balmung
Most people raiding have transfered to EU I think
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>>121503441
Do you like Midlanders?
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>>121503571
Why don't you transfer as well?
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>yfw Dancer will be the 3rd BRD/MCH
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>>121503441
Do you like Au ra
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>>121503658
savage
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>>121503462
Not on Balmung, sorry
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>>121503536
>shyvana still doesn't have a single 60
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>Nerfing normal Garuda
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>>121503441
You will find someone. Don't give up.
>>
Honest question here: Has anyone who sold their house honestly ever gotten 'bids' on it? I always see people putting their house up for sale and say 'PM for the latest bid' and wonder if they're just trying to sound like anyone gives a fuck to drive up the price.

I dunno, sounds like a shady business dealing to me.
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>>121503821
>nerfing sastasha NM
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>>121503658
My ping is ok here and the trade-off is shitty
I get to wipe with a static that will die at some point in exchange for friends
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>>121503783
If they do make a dancer job and it turns out to be ranged DPS i will cancel my subscription
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>>121503441
im taking applications...
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>>121503783
>dancer
>slut bend
How long until se adds a feature that just jerks me off?
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>>121503783
I NEED DNC.
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>>121502902
>They still have nearly imaginary drop rates
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>>121504123
what about mumu senpai
>>
>>121503821
Ruda normal it's way too hard for the shitters at 42 desu. It's actually harder than ruda hard and ex.
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it's not liora is it
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>tfw Diadem is the 1.0 island raid instanced that gave il70 weaponry

I like where this is going
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>>121503783
Only if it is ranged physical.

We're going to attack with a chakram or a whip?
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>>121504362
Nobody knows anymore.
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>>121503978
Just get your little slutlander to follow you and then stop posting here.
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>>121504381
whip plz
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>>121503915
>Nerfing Copperbell mines NM
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>>121504094
How good is your head game tho?
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>>121504691
>you now don't have to use the bomb to blow up the green goo
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What kind of DNC glamour will you be, Anon
>Le epik maymay tincan armor DNC
>Default no imagination DNC AF
>Hyper slut cockslurping GROWN MAN DNC
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>>121504362
Not Liora
>>121504662
No thanks
>>
>>121504823
Male roe DNC in a speedo
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>>121504982
I got a male roe whm in a pink speedo with pink hair and pink glasses in roulette one time. He was decent too
>>
>new dances
>new cposes
>selfie camera

This patch will be the end of this general. New jannies they took on must start working soon. I can already smell the stench of those messages in neet fc chat - "hey /b/ros, let's line up and shit the thread together xD"
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>>121505168
I'm gonna go on a limb and assume white skin sea wolf
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>>121504823
>Tin can dancer
I need this
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>>121505191
don't forget alt bunny outfit and minfilia buttwindow outfit
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>>121505191
>ending a containment thread

good one.
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>>121505191
>I can already smell the stench of those messages in neet fc chat - "hey /b/ros, let's line up and shit the thread together xD"

I find it funny that anybody thinks this actually happens in any FC, linkshell, or voip.
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>>121505275
Yeah I think so, it was several months ago so I am not 100%. Was definitely light-skinned though
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Heavensward OST where? Google and the pastebin have failed me.
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>>121505492
It has been done before.
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>>121505492
i can confirm the midlander linkshell coordinates every morning
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>>121505664
thank god those "people" hate each other nowadays
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>>121505664
>2014-08-14
Do you have any proof or is it also a year and few months old
>>
What's the best cat face? I want to make a good looking cat, but suck at using character creators.
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>>121505780
How can you not remember the beach fiasco . . .
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>>121505343
We all do
/clank
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>pld actually got nerfed
What the fuck? Why? Bulwark + shield swipe generated more aggro for you than the aggro combo every did. Why would they do this
>>
Does anyone know Atma Kun ?

I am hearing he died.
>>
>tfw MNK main
>tfw static wants me to go NIN
>tfw NINs getting buffed
>tfw NIN gear drops every week
I don't want to play this game anymore
Thanks for fucking my shit up, DRK
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>>121506087
Youre all just shit and dont know PLD is the best

I have no idea what im doing
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>>121506193
does drk have a slashing debuff or something?
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>>121506087
>Bulwark+Shield Swipe
What the fuck? Am I in 2013? That was a shit use of a cooldown even then, never mind in Heavensward when Shield Swipe was a DPS loss.
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>>121505727
please stop pretending to be other people
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>>121502570
>asuka langley
>OMG WHY IS SHINJI SO MUCH BETTER THAN ME TIME TO BE A BITCH ABOUT IT 24/7 langley
lol
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>>121506339
No they have an int debuff that makes the corresponding mnk skill redundant
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>>121506339
INT debuff, while being better than PLD and more enjoyable to play
MNKs are no longer needed to provide it for Cascade and shit
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>>121506087
>210 potency with no multiplier = better than 200-300 potency with big ass multiplier
lmao
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>>121506339
drk has int down, which has taken away any support mnk still offers unless you count mantra which is literally the only thing
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>>121503821
considering from a difficulty curve perspective garuda normal is a little much desu
while i had no issues with it, the content afterwards is significantly easier for a good bit
>>
>Paks
Eliminated
>Ippiki Atros
Eliminated
>Ki's
Eliminated
>Sera
Eliminated

Who's next?
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>>121506520
>he doesn't know Shield Swipe had a multiplier
Anon...

>>121506339
>>121506512
>>121506484
>>121506551
Everything would have been fine if DRKs INT debuff actually reduced Blunt resistance as well, and maybe some of DRKs damage dealt Blunt damage, like Low Blow.
Then it would actually be able to synergize with MNK by giving them full Bootshine duty, but fucking nope.
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>>121506414
>dps loss
Three shield swipes = 630 potency. This gives you 630 potency of aggro

Standard combo 150 + 200 + 260 =610 potency and 610 aggro generation
We just lost out on more damage and more aggro
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>material quality: excellent
>great strides up
>steady hand not up
>use standard touch
>80% chance to succeed
>it actually succeeds
I shouldn't be so surprised at this, yet I am. This crafting system made me way too pessimistic.
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>>121506789
>piss and shitpiki eliminated
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>>121506789
Eliminate me
please
from real life
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>>121506840
b-but muh str debuff
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>>121506840
what is an enmity multiplier
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>>121506821
source on it having the same multiplier as a combo
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>>121506193
NIN is more fun anyways.
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>>121506789
bg, ninii
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>>121506193
ninjas are hardly getting buffed, they are just preventing you from running out of TP when you don't have another nin/brd/ast in the raid
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>>121506821
>maybe some of DRKs damage dealt Blunt damage
whoa now....thats a little too complex for this game.

I think it would be too strong if they could bootshine every time. You'd probably have another pre 2.45 DRG scenario where everyone wants to take MNK/NIN or double MNK. MNK at least now still does excellent DPS, regardless if their main utility is now covered by DRK or not.
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>>121507114
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>>121506789
I dare you to eliminate vjera.
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>>121507482
OF COURSE IT HAS THE SAME BASE MULTIPLIER IF YOU'RE IN SHIELD OATH YOU FUCKING RETARD
AGGRO COMBO HAS IT'S OWN FUCKING MULTIPLIER INDEPENDENT OF SHIELD OATH
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>121507271
If Mudras cut any less into your GCD, it's going to end up providing more damage.
I already didn't really have an issue with Mudra lag though, so I wonder if it'll be any better.
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>>121507079
>what is an enmity multiplier
Lower on PLD weaponskills than on DRK and WAR ones. Not even kidding. Not only does PLD do less damage, the damage they do causes less enmity.
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>>121506193
You can go back to MNK for blunt buff when they release seal clubbing GEO in 4.0
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>>121507026
same vain as foresight it's fucking nothing

>>121507079
damage = aggro. Why do you think str builds are recommended for more aggro gain?
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>>121506840
Where did I say it was a DPS loss in ARR? I said it was a shit use of a cooldown, because you're wasting a 180s cooldown to gain <7 potency per GCD. It wasn't even necessarily an enmity gain over 5 skills used from the Halone combo, because those 5 could be Savage > Halone > Fast > Savage > Halone, which is 800 more enmity than 5x Shield Swipe. Bulwark + Shield Swipe has always been shit.
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>>121507482
>>121507578
That's an old chart.
Shield Swipe was buffed to roughly a 3x enmity mod.
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>>121506789
And yet they keep posting
You're a goddamn failure! WORK DAMN YOU
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>>121507578
I don't understand. This is to show anon is wrong as the aggro combo gives more aggro
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>>121506789
>tfw posting since beta 3 and have never had an "eliminator" on my tail

Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones.
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>be in fate group
>someone says "brb gotta take care of the boyfriend wanting attention"
>this triggers me to the point where i leave the group
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>>121506789
>Paks has been posting every day for at least a week
r u dum
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>>121506789
You forgot Quentyn and Aether.
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>>121507706
>damage = aggro. Why do you think str builds are recommended for more aggro gain?
Do you want a definition of the word "multiplier"?
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>>121507820
got a source on that?
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>>121507948
What races can get that hair?
>>
Post YFW you don't play on Gilgamesh or Balmung
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>>121501319
just 2 hrs ago I got a DRK that macroed a bunch of edgy lines to his skills

one of the lines was "Your soul is mine!" for Sole Survivor

was a bit unsettling to the the meme in action
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>>121506789
please eliminate me
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>>121508137
None now.
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>>121508137
Each female race. But that hair is exclusive, it can only be obtained by doing the FFXIII event, and we don't know when it will happen again.
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>>121508207
go away ugly
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>>121506840
but the new thing is the combo+shield swipe whenever it is off cooldown since it is ogcd now
That single shield swipe every 15 seconds is more than the difference between 3 swipes and a combo
Not to mention you can now use it in times where otherwise you wouldnt have the oppurtunity to
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>>121508207
with a face like that you did his job for him
>>
>>121508127
3.0 mentions Shield Swipe is adjusted
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/464263b3ce6026cdf98a49bf8f98c204c6199e5a

Tooltip now reads:
Delivers an attack with a potency of 210.
Can only be used immediately after blocking an attack.
Additional Effect: Pacification
Duration: 6s
Additional Effect: Increased enmity <--- this part

Googling the exact enmity mods is leading me to reddit and I'm not posting it here, it's been found a 3x mod
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>>121508207
Already did, "tank mom"
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>>121504823
I need to see the back of that character on the same pose.
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>>121508415
>>121508454
i just want to be eliminated not bullied

>>121508543
wow piss off
>>
Ever since the servers moved I have been getting random d/c during peak hours

despite still being on the same NA server, still using the same ISP and ethernet cable

fucking euros
>>
Post cropped porn and somehow make it /xivg/ related.

hard mode: post gay porn
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>>121508543
>someone thought spuki was me
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>>121508207
>tfw retards shit up the thread wearing your favorite glamour pieces
>>
>>121506789
>slapping giant's toe with a feather
>Giant: "Think I'll go talk to Fred."
Eliminated XD
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>>121508450
No, the new thing is that shield swipe now not only has a cooldown, it also has 150 potency instead of 210. It's a straight-up nerf across the board.
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>>121508821
it's a pretty unoriginal glamour, sorry senpai
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>>121508974
It is a 5-7% increase in overall Paladin DPS*, how dumb are you that you think that's a nerf


*(As long as they're main-tanking a boss with physical auto-attacks)
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>Preliminary Patch Notes
>Law earning up, Eso earning down
>Upside Law can now be used to buy Eso upgrade mats
Eh, I guess that's fair?
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>>121508207
Those little nose markings are p. cute
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>>121509150
>*
That asterisk should be pretty fuckin' huge, because it's gonna happen even less now.
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>>121508974
>It's a straight-up nerf across the board.
You're retarded, it's a straight up buff because there was no reason to ever use Shield Swipe in Heavensward because Goring and Royal both had higher average potencies. Now that it's off GCD, you'll actually use it any time it procs.

It's such a small buff that it's just a placebo, but it's still a buff. It and the TP changes will do nothing.
>>
>>121508662
You are sentenced to elimination by hugs and kisses.
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>>121508314
As much as I enjoyed the music, hopefully never
>>
why do cat boys always look like they are scowling? it's fucking ugly
>>
>>121509175
Esoteric earnings are not down. Neverreap and Fractal will give fewer Esoterics (just as every dungeon gives less of the current weekly-capped Tomestone once that dungeon is moved out of Expert Roulette) and instead Pharos Sirius HM and Saint Mocianne's whatever will give the 45 Esoterics.

And Law isn't used to buy Esoteric upgrade items. Law is now usable to buy 2-star crafting materials. It's Centurio Seals that are now usable to buy Esoteric upgrade items.
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>>121509175
>I had saved 2k Law and did not know what to do with it
Glad I did
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>>121509082
It is a versatile item and goes with many things. I suppose I shouldn't blame you for using it. I don't post my character anyway now because of the dishonored status of female midlanders
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>>121508207
Holy fuck you're so ugly, how can you live with yourself like that? No wonder cat girls are all whoring themselves when the men of their race are like this.
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post blacklists
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>>121509319
When they said "We think the main problem with Paladin right now is incompatibility with the current content", do you really think that the second half of their thought was "So we're going to make sure that future content is even less compatible with Paladin's strengths"?
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PLD aside, can we talk about AST going unchanged
Is Square serious
I don't know why I even leveled this job anymore
>>
>>121509713
>astrologians on suicide watch
>>
>>121509713
>AST gets buffed
>HAHAHA FUCKING SCH/WHM KUCKS BTFO
>AST fades back into irrelevance
>new patch and shit like this gets posted
I really love this cycle lol
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>>121509353
thanx...

>>121509378
the constant pressures of homophobia are very tiring

>>121509527
i think its pretty cute, different strokes for different folks etc
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>>121509572
>blacklisting Sadsfdsf Dsfgdfgfdg
butthurt loser
>>
>>121509351
Meanwhile, PLD still has the lowest DPS of the tank jobs AND the lowest enmity multipliers, is the only tank that doesn't have a damage component on its spammable AoE enmity move, and nothing has been done about their complete lack of magic damage mitigation.

So yeah, it's not even a band-aid, it's your mum licking a handkerchief and rubbing it into the wound.
>>
>>121509426
Ah, right, right, yes you're quite correct. God I've a shit memory; I read this stuff just a couple hours ago and already my wires are getting crossed.

And yes, you have a point that the new dungeons will likely more than make up for the decrease in the older ones. Not to mention a new roulette.

>>121509429
Bad news is that it'll cost pretty much all that savings for 1 2-star mat. Oh well they're easy to earn.
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>>121509175
>>Upside Law can now be used to buy Eso upgrade mats
where is this said?
>>
>>121509713
AST has been in a good spot since the 3.07 buffs. 3.2 will be the patch where people realise WHM's overkill healing is unneeded so they'll bring an AST for more DPS instead. It's what happened in 3.0 with PLD/DRK, and the only reason it didn't happen for WHM/AST is that AST was weak at release.
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>>121509887
fuck off spuki
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>>121508752
We're getting SAM, DNC, and RDM next
>SAM is tank
How mad are you?
>>
>>121509984
>so they'll bring an AST for more DPS instead
What.
>>
>>121509960
Another anon already corrected that mistake.
Centurio Seals are used to buy Eso Upgrade Mats. Law is used to buy 2-Star Crafting Mats.
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>>121509993
no
>>
>>121509843
Anyone who thought buffing a couple potencies on AST would fix it was fucking retarded to begin with.
Its problems are much deeper than that.
>>
joined bandwagon fuck GC

long ass pvp queue

fuck I should have known
>>
>>121510110
ok sorry
>>
>>121509918
>Meanwhile, PLD still has the lowest DPS of the tank jobs AND the lowest enmity multipliers
So play it as OT where its damage is still good and enmity is irrelevant.
> is the only tank that doesn't have a damage component on its spammable AoE enmity move
Completely fine, PLD's advantage in aoe is that it has block. There's a reason most groups used PLD MT for A2S progression.
>nothing has been done about their complete lack of magic damage mitigation
Rampart, Sentinel and Hallowed all work on magical damage. They were enough for any fight in ARR. You couldn't even rely on Bulwark for physical tankbusters back then, these 3 skills are the ones PLD used to tank everything.
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>>121510007
>SAM is tank
I'd be okay with this, honestly. It fits the aesthetic.
>>
>>121510007
>That doujin
Lewd as fuck.

I'm surprised that fanart hasn't done more with a Miqo'te who was canonically raped by pirates...
>>
>>121510091
I thohght the same at first, I think he means the cards
>>
>>121510168
i forgive u
>>
>>121510115
Teach me, o great master, how would you fix AST?
>>
Where's everyone pulling their 3.1 info from? Are the patchnotes released already? Please link.
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>>121510007
>RDM is heals
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>>121510305
Look at the OP.

Quack
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>>121508752
Not much to say. I'm just hyped to start running airship explorations on Tuesday.
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>>121510007
>DNC and RDM

i hope dance stays a healer class so WHMs wont be the biggest sluts in town anymore
>>
>>121510305
we have an op for a reason.
>>
>>121510305
Just the preliminary notes. So it's missing full item lists and such; but most of the big details are there.

Check the Lodestone.


>>121510329
Isn't that kind of the point?
>>
>>121510305
preliminary ones

http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/aac14097b6a79b49ba5df88c3b8b1952722e55f7
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>>121510286
thanks
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>>121510305
Go to the lodestone and read them yourself you lazy shit.
>>
>>121510296
Give them the same damage as a whm atleast and make it to where they can manage their mana as well as a whm
>>
>>121510441
Yeah that one week of content will be great
>>
>>121510296
I'd give AST a system somewhat similar to NINs Mudras in terms of pulling a specific card.
I'd tack on some damage to Celestial Opposition as well.
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>>121510479
>enabling
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>>121510508
np
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>>121509984
AST isn't more DPS than WHM.

That aside, AST has some advantages over WHM (and even over SCH) when it comes to pure healing, so I kind of think that their plan moving forward is to make an actual attempt at designing fights that don't require healer DPS, even when the party is undergeared. They probably won't succeed at that, but it's the only route that really makes sense given the game's current situation.
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>>121509984
>heal/tank checks become more important in Alex 2
>AST literally can't heal through it and SCH/WHM remains the standard

Cards won't help you heal unless you get a constant string of Boles.
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Anyone on Balmung wanna do undersize zodiac dungeons? wanna get onto the last stage before 3.1
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>>121510686
AST's guaranteed DoTs and cards will easily outdps WHM in progression.
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>>121510731
AST is better at heavy tank healing than WHM, though. It's healing raid damage where AST can't keep up.
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>>121510512
Don't worry, a couple of faglord anons will spoonfeed even the biggest fucktard in the general under the guise of kindness
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>>121508821
It's comfy
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>>121510663
sorry...
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>>121510643
Just making it so you can't draw the same card after a shuffle or reducing shuffle's CD would go a really long way to help the job's viability without significantly changing the underlying mechanics.
Maybe one day.
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>>121510827
No, they don't, and I feel like this has been explained to you multiple times in past threads so I'm just going to leave it at that.
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>>121510896
>It's healing raid damage where AST can't keep up.
Aspected Helios is only 10 potency less per tick. Helios = Medica. Synergy is almost as good as Divine Seal. Cure III is never needed. AST has no trouble in raid healing.
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>>121510908
and it hides your massive futa horsecock
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>>121511084
>Cure III is never needed.

That's the thing. We may be heading into a raid tier where large amounts of on demand party healing will be necessary. And WHM does it the best between the three healers currently.
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>>121510827
You're seriously underestimating how much damage a skilled WHM is worth.
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>>121511076
Good, I have no intention of listening to the shit you retards spout and I'll be sure to screencap this post for when AST's DPS is used to get the first A8S kill.
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>>121511084
>Cure III is never needed.
>i never did A3S or any coil

Fuck off
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>>121510908
>femroe
Now I really have to stop wearing it.
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>>121511084
>I only look at potencies
This fucking playerbase lol
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>>121510249
You play WAR, don't you.
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>>121509887
will u pls split my head open with an axe and pour molten steel in my skull?
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>>121511245
>>121511354
you just hate me, cuz you ain't me
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>>121510827
Is this a joke?
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>>121511084
Aspected Helios is 100 less total potency, Synergy is a full 10% behind Divine Seal when it comes to AoE and HoT healing, Cure III is REALLY useful in the situations that it is actually useful, and AST has no off-GCD instant AoE heal like Assize (the best they can do is Swiftcast/Lightspeed some Helios casts, but they're still limited to one heal per GCD while doing so).

WHM is significantly stronger at raid healing.
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>>121511084
That 10 potency less is a lot considering the amount of ticks. It also has a shorter radius by 5m.
Like you said, Synergy is almost as good.
Cure III just covers a niche, but that's an incredibly useful niche when the situation requires it.

AST is just barely under WHM in terms of healing, but when we're talking about progression any bit of extra juice you can get from anywhere is extremely valuable.
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>>121511492
sorry my marauder is level 17 i think i would just dent your skull a little bit
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>>121511587
>>121511624
100 potency over 30s is fucking nothing.
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>>121510249
>So play it as OT where its damage is still good and enmity is irrelevant.
>cutting out Storm's Path
>cutting out Storm's Eye
>cutting out all that DPS
Let's not
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>>121511768
>implying a MT WAR won't have 100% uptime on Eye
>implying a MT WAR can't drop a BB for a Path on the rare occasion it's needed
>implying OT WAR does significantly more DPS than OT PLD
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>>121511720
Is 250-300 AoE potency over 2.5s also "fucking nothing"?
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>>121511926
>>implying OT WAR does significantly more DPS than OT PLD
it's not implied.
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>>121510778
They're making it a lot easier to get to Zeta in 3.1, might as well wait the 4 days
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>tfw The Hunt is on again
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Why doesn't anyone post cute au ra girls anymore?
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>>121511926
You were ALMOST three for three.
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How to fix AST in four simple steps:

Increase card potency.
Implement a mechanism to give the player a bit more control over their draws and reduce or limit RNG.
Allow stance dancing in combat and let nocturnal shields stack with Adlo.
Nerf potiencies slightly to balance for the better cards and stance flexibility.
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>>121512141
They all fantasia'd back
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>>121512141
cuz theyre all ugly af
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LF c@ to do lewd things to... PST
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>>121512141
I don't post my au ra because /vg/
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>>121511926
If you're going to have a WAR to MT, you're still better off bringing a second WAR to OT.
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>>121512194
>Implement a mechanism to give the player a bit more control over their draws and reduce or limit RNG.

what is spread and shuffle

>Allow stance dancing in combat and let nocturnal shields stack with Adlo.

full retard

>Nerf potiencies slightly to balance for the better cards and stance flexibility.

retard and a half.
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>>121512141
Hello, I'm here.
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>>121512194
>Allow stance dancing in combat and let nocturnal shields stack with Adlo.

That would actually, no hyperbole, result in WHM becoming obsolete.

(Not the stance-dancing, which should be allowed, but stacking shields would be unbelievably broken.)
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>>121512141
>au ra
>cute

lizardsluts are shit and i am one
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>A1S
>89 WHMs with 300 dps or higher
>33 ASTs with 286 dps or higher (adjusted)

>A2S
>lol

>A3S
>22 WHMs with 200 dps or higher
>6 ASTs with 190 dps or higher (adjusted)

>A4S
>223 total WHM clears
>22 total AST clears
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>>121512339
You're right anon, AST is totally fine on the bench right now :^)
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>>121511084
Did you just casually forget that Assize doesn't exist
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>Healing in dungeon, out DPSing one of the shitty DPS, keeping retards alive calling out stuff for newer players
No commendations
>Fuck up, let people die, maybe even wipe once because of me and in general be a fuck up
>Three commendations
But how
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>>121512539
I know what you mean and you're right but this sentence is a labyrinth
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>>121512358
Cute!
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Hey guys my friends just invited me to throw my life away on yet another MMO.

Can you answer a few basic questions for me:

-Is changing your looks hard/expensive?(i'm a fashion whore)
-Will i hate my life as a Scholar?
-Will my friends call me a pedo if i make a Lalafell?

also any protips for a newfig would be appreciated.

pic related, it's my waifu
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>>121512439
I'm not saying you're wrong here but like, why do you always join in on these debates when you get kicked from groups as if you're Ippiki
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>>121512674
Whoops, I meant Assize exists
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>>121512509
Right so how many actively raiding white mages, when given quite possibly the most fun HW abilities of any class, do you think actually switched to AST, knowing that they were by far the weakest healer before their buff in 3.07? And how many of them, after spending weeks of eso on WHM, switched to AST in 3.07 to start from scratch?

There are just plain fewer ASTs at high levels.
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>>121512729
but to which one
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>>121511926
>implying OT WAR does significantly more DPS than OT PLD
We don't have to imply anything; it does. PLD's OT DPS is significantly lower than both the other tanks, so why would anyone bring it? It brings zero relevant buffs/debuffs, to boot.
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>>121512398
the only cute au ra I know is nice looking because she's wearing a tin can all day long.
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>>121512746
Yes, no, maybe (we will).
Try not to blow your brains out after lv50, shit gets bad.
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>>121512746
>-Is changing your looks hard/expensive?(i'm a fashion whore)
no
>-Will i hate my life as a Scholar?
all healers are well off right now, just ast is in an identity crisis
>-Will my friends call me a pedo if i make a Lalafell?
yes, deal with it or fuck off
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>>121512746
Nope, unless you want to race change
You won't hate your life
Yes and you shouldn't roll a potato
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>>121512746
You got to be level 50 it glamour items, which is basically make and item look like another item, its not too expensive.
No, Scholars are a pretty fun class, You just got to get used to it. Also you can be every class in the game on one character
They'll call you a potato. And you'll be the designated FFXIV Meme race.
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>>121512509
The key point the AST shills miss is that because their job is weaker in healing, it has to heal more, which results in lower damage output. Not to mention the constant threat of raid members being outside their garbage range
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>>121512746
i will call you a qt if you mak a lala <3
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>>121512746
Kinda you'll need an okay amount of money to change outfits.
Hair and facial stuff is 2k only for all changes together.
SCH is awesome I main it very fun
Lalafells are cool just don't be fucking annoying

Enjoy the journey
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>>121512838
They bring STYLE.

In the form of totally sweet headwings.
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>>121512746
>-Is changing your looks hard/expensive?(i'm a fashion whore)
No, the game is very supportive of this

>-Will i hate my life as a Scholar?
If you hate being the absolute best healer, then maybe I guess

>-Will my friends call me a pedo if i make a Lalafell?
Probably, yeah.

Only tips I have are to get Cleric Stance from CNJ first and use it to DPS when you're not actively healing to be useful.
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>Magictek armor can now fly
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>>121512746
>is changing your looks hard/expensive?

hair and clothes? no. physical traits? yes.

>will i hate my life as a Scholar?

it'll be ezpz as far as healsluts go

>will my friends call me a pedo if i make a lalafell?

being a pedo is a-ok
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>>121512826
The girl of course.
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>>121512939
>Thinking pedo potatos are bad
I have one hell of a time spamming the /hug emote on every female leg I see.
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>>121512746
>Looks
If you want to change your whole character design, it'll cost a cash-shop item. You get one after a certain length of subscription though. There is a special NPC that lets you change details like make-up, hairstyle, etc.

As for just outfits, you have to get up to level 50 to unlock glamours to fully mix-and-match your clothes and such.

>Scholar
Nah.

>Lalafell
Yes, no, maybe-so.
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>>121513043
Fuck that son i'm all about my floating red ball
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Low level SMN here, in which order do I apply my dots? When should I refresh them? I played Warlock in WoW and back then it was always correct to let the dots expire before refreshing them to get the last tick off, how does this game work in that sense?
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>>121513015
>only been kicked from one group
You make it sound like that's no big deal.
Being so bad in a group of 8 that you have to be kicked is pretty fucking embarrassing, I don't know how people manage to not be good enough at this game.
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>>121512746
If you actually wanna be a healer, this isn't the right game
For the very very end game content healers are expected to dps somewhat because the dps checks are about 10 times more strict than the heal checks
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>>121513043
>Flying and shooting everywhere at the same time.
Idleshire is now a battle zone.
>>
So can I spend my stockpile of Esoterics now?

Also
>The color of the display for non-targetable objects has been adjusted for the party list, focus target bar, and the enemy list.
THANK FUCKING FUCK
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>>121510139
alt account is on 4th seal rock match

main acc still queuing

fucking hell I underestimated the Flame bandwagon
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>>121513141
Bio II > Miasma > Bio
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>>121513084
ok...
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>>121513141
I've never played SMN but with refreshing DoTs you have to keep in mind of the 2.5s GCD, so I'd usually start reapplying my DoTs around 2-3 seconds
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Assuming a WAR with 20K HP:
Stoneskin absorbs 2k damage
A 3k Adlo crit absorbs 6k damage
A 3k Aspected Benefic absorbs 3.9k damage
Divine Veil absorbs another 2k damage

You've now blocked nearly 14K damage from shields alone BEFORE any other mitigation (Vengence, Virus, etc.) and invalidated that tankbuster. This is why Noct and Galvanize do not stack.
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>>121513015
Being kicked from any groups period means you are probably a big problem.
And the fact that "the rest of your groups fell apart" combined with that just means that you were probably a good contributing factor.
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>>121512746
Can be expensive if you change constantly, race changes are $10
As a retired raid SCH, yes
Probably

you're waifu a fucking S+++
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>>121511481
Only WAR mains are the ones I've found defending current PLD and the new PLD changes.

Leave it to fags who don't even play the job to act like they know fucking anything about it.
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>>121513141
smn main
Bio2 > miasma > bio in this order
Recast your dots at the 3 second mark unless it's bio wait for bio to have 0 sec or fall off

Works the same way where the last tick does damage but the recast at the 3 sec mark synchs it up with that
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>>121513015
I love the way you look in Yasha robe, time for more Phorced Phriendship Photoshoot.
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>>121513369
Judging from your gif, balmug.
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>>121513369
Adamantoise, we need more people
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>>121513430
They're desperate to remain top dog tank, so much so that they'll kick the weakest while it's down. It's rather sad, really.
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>>121513369
Zodiark
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>>121513369
How bout you fuck off and come back when you turn 18.
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>>121513369
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>>121512931
>>121512939
>>121512940
>>121512941
>>121512974
>>121512997
>>121513030
>>121513052
>>121513113
>>121513260


Wow! Thanks for all the replies, you helped me figure things out.

I'm going to play on Hyperion @Primal, is it okay? i dont want to join that one server that's fucked.

>>121513416
Thanks also ;_;
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>>121513390
>implying anyone takes pld at all to use dv
kek
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>>121513369
>>>/b/

>not the first post from this IP
suspicious
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>>121513726
>people think they can just jump into raiding with no prior synergy between people and expect things to work.
irony
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I just came back after the ISP Kekening the Chaos Data Server had with some ISP's.

I don't plan on going back to my old raid for the time being, and besides capping this week's allagans, is there anything worthwhile I can do? If you have to know, I'm a DRK
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>>121513768
Hyperion is nice.
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>>121512439
The difference between 600 potency under Synastry and 700 potency under Divine Seal is 190. Come 3.2, that's likely to amount to somewhere in the area of 2000 extra HP. In a situation where you're both undergeared and solo-healing, it's very possible to run into a fight where, once you've accounted for all scripted raid damage, 2000 or so HP at the end of a Medica II/A. Helios is the difference between everyone surviving, every time, and some people dying, with a fight script that's tight enough that you simply don't have a free GCD to throw out the extra Helios to make up the difference.

This also ignores Assize, which in a similar situation could make the difference easily 5-6k HP instead of 2k.


AST can do an okay of job raid healing with Helios and Synastry, but WHM is better at it with Medicas and Divine Seal, and will be able to heal through heavy raid damage scenarios that AST cannot. Just like WHM can do a good job of tank healing with Divine Seal, but AST can do a better job of it with Synastry and will be able to heal scenarios that WHM cannot.
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>>121513768
Hyperion is fine.
Whatever you do, just stay away from Balmung.
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This thread is weird.

-Linking source is spoonfeeding.
-Helping is carrying.
-Talking is hugboxing.
-Sharing your game experiences is blogging.
-Trying to make someone feel better is flirting.
-Good players are "elitists" and people who have no experience are "shitters".

I mean, I don't play or interact with 4chan in game, but can't you just like, get along?

I think the point of anonymous community is to have freedom of sharing your opinions, as borderline as they might be, not insulting each other.
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>>121513904
This. People complain all the time about "forced statics" and how the community is so insular. Well no crap, just like real life, you need to build connections and be a decent human being to work well with people.
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>>121513768
Pick a datacenter that your region is based in, Aether for NA, Primal for EU
The VG server is Balmung, a hive of ERPers and Elitists
Some good NA servers are Adamantoise, Midgardsormr, Gilgamesh
EU servers Moogle, Excalibur, LEviathan.
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>>121513726
>another girl
but you're a tranny
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>>121514062
What if I know 9 people
>>
So, what Cash-Shop Exclusive Glamours do you want them to add next?

We've got Minfillia, what other NPC do you want to play dress up as?
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>>121513263
You cant fly in idle shire
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>>121514071
>Balmung
>Elitists
Elitists at sucking dicks maybe
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>>121514028
Is not even the right board, but I just have to post this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p7SgK_RjSU
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>>121513390
Divine Veil is based off the PLDs HP, not the person it's cast on. It would be even more garbage if it was just aoe stoneskin
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>>121513726
>another girl
who was the other one?
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>>121514071
/vg/ server is Ultros and Primal is NA though.
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>>121514028
I think it's better if you interact with a shotgun to the skull
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>>121514028
Everyone is just fucking bitter and full of pessimists, I sometimes don't know why I'm still here but it's maybe because I don't know anyone else who plays the game.
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>>121513580
I'm so fucking mad about the shield swipe change. I was actually arguing with an FC member of mine (WAR main who doesn't even have PLD leveled to 60 while I have all three tanks at the cap) who insisted the change was a buff (muh dps increase), yet they thought current shield swipe interrupted/canceled combos.

Like for fucks sake, don't try to talk about a job you don't know fucking shit about.
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>>121514172
Y'shtolas new robe

Aymerics armor
Gaius van Baelsars armor
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>>121514240
the best and proud
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>>121514028
The worst part is that this thread is full of bitching and whining for more discussion, and then when more discussion happens, people bitch and whine about the topic or the people discussing it.
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>>121513941
>>121513983
>>121514071
Thanks, i probably have to play on this one thanks to my friends. I just wanted to know if it was something i should take up with them now before we got too settled in.

You guys are really helpful, only other times i've posted in /vg/ i got murdered by the 'no fun allowed'-crowd. Except in ARMA threads where they just called into question my sexuality for not doing everything their way.

Thanks again!
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>>121512964
>garbage range

>Exactly the same as Medica and Assize

AST is weaker at AoE healing but 5 extra yalms on Medica II doesn't make a difference unless you've got a terminal case of the bads.
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>>121514028
Welcome to /xivg/

Enjoy your stay since everyone that still plays this game hates themselves
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>>121513938
fantasia
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>>121514428
Why are you mad about a DPS increase?
>>
>/XIVg/ - Let's talk about how much we hate Vjera edition
Y'all some Elliot Rodger motherfuckers.
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>>121514071
Aether and Primal are NA datacenters
Chaos is the EU one.
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>>121514172
thong bikinis for females that increase butt/breast size and are dyeable
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>>121514547
How much of your paycheck did she get this month, anon?
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>>121514467
least it looks pretty

>>121514547
*tips*
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>>121514468
Accurate, I'm listening to this right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxnokRvrcvI
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>>121514542
I think it's because 99% of the Paladin players who had a brain moved on to other tank classes once it became clear how bad Paladin was, and apart from that poor 1% that just likes their bad class no matter what, the only ones left just don't understand things.
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>>121514428
>yet they thought current shield swipe interrupted/canceled combos.
It doesn't? Pretty sure it did.
What's with those captcha being 50% hidden what the fuck
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>>121514428
I've been a PLD main since 1.0 and it really bugs me that they're not even trying to make them relevant to the 2 other Tank classes in terms of damage output and versatility
Look at WAR and its insane combos, then look at PLD and its 1 2 3 combo
I just people to want to play the class because it's a lot of fun and has its moments, but SE keeps fucking it in the ass
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>leveling AST
>won galikitten yesterday
>win lesser panda today with a 97
>mfw never won a heavensbored minion before yesterday
>mfw both are selling for 3m on my server
>mfw in two days made more than what i've made in the rest of the game combined
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>>121514542
>muh dps
>muh dps increase that doesn't factor in shit like mechanics and phase changes
>MUH DPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>lets nerf one of plds only fun abilities that actually required a bit of finesse to utilize and turn it into a shitty generic press and forget move like warriors brutal swing in pve content

I'M MAD
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>>121514547
Well it's deserved for how much of a terrible person they have been here.
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>>121514547
>white knighting a literal tranny
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>>121514910
>terrible person
>here
>wheredoyouthinkweare.gif
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>>121514747
Shield Swipe never interrupted combos. Shield BASH does, and they should definitely have fucking made that change, but you used to be able to theoretically get two Shield Swipes in between each hit in your combo before the combo would wear off. It actually made a real difference to your TP consumption, but it was a DPS loss in HW and losing DPS is the last fucking thing a PLD needs so it wasn't really useful for that anymore.

The change IS a straight buff to the skill and to PLD DPS, though.
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>>121514742
Yet I've played all three tanks extensively and can tell you it's a shit change and you're a fucking retard if you think it's not.
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Remember to remove yourself from the Linkshell and encourage your friends to do the same.

Though a community effort, we can take down evil together.
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>>121514547
>Elliot Rodger
Who?
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>>121514470
>Still defending the hate potatos maymay
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>>121514878
>>muh dps
>>muh dps increase that doesn't factor in shit like mechanics and phase changes
>>MUH DPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
What the fuck does this even mean?
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>>121514871
thats pretty damn expensive. i still probably would have used them though, cute minions
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>>121515185
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>>121515185
>Still defending the disgusting potato jews of Eorzea
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Can people without HW use HW gear?
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>>121515108
It's a big improvement to PLD in general and I'd be really interested to hear your reasoning about why it isn't.

Is it big enough to make PLD competitive with the other tanks? No. Is it still a really substantial increase where PLD needs it the most? Absolutely.
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>>121514878
You still don't get the fact that dps is literally all that matters now?
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>>121515038
>The change IS a straight buff to the skill and to PLD DPS, though.
>a buff to the skill
>because you get to use it less often now
>and it does less damage

yeah sure thing lets just chop off barely less than a third of how much damage it dealt so you can have one more forgettable little button press between combos so you can feel cooler ;^)
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>>121515157
that ugly american guy who killed some people because no gf
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>>121515185
>implying I'm in it just for the maymay
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>>121515108
I was hoping that if they ever did take Shield Swipe off the GCD that they'd add a similar cooldown to it, but replace the pacification with a +60 TP on use function. They probably wouldn't have even needed to nerf the TP use on other skills if they just did that.
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>>121515308
>>121515372
but fem popotos are a godsend
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>>121515372
Still mad we've got your gil, anon?
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>>121515612
for pedos maybe
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>>121515413
>using shield swipe
>ever

It was a DPS loss to use. If you were in a party that wasn't retarded, you did not have that garbage on your hotbar
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>>121515498
>posting nigger facebook humour
'fuck outta here' yourself.
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>>121515185
hey i've met two lalas that i dont absolutely hate give me a break
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>>121515702
>taking their bait

xivg you should know better
>>
>>121515835
>you should know better
this is xivg we are talking about
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>>121515775
Kill yourself pedophile
>>
>>121515483
YOU RETARDED FUCK
SHIELD SWIPE WAS A DPS LOSS 100% OF THE TIME WHEN YOU USED IT IN HEAVENSWARD
NOW IT'S OFF GCD SO YOU DON'T DELAY YOUR COMBO TO USE IT
IT'S LITERALLY 150 EXTRA POTENCY PER 15 SECONDS ON TOP OF THE CURRENT MAX DPS ROTATION
IT'S NOW THE SAME POTENCY PER SECOND AS SPIRITS WITHIN AND CIRCLE OF SCORN
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>>121515484
Oh you mean the stupid /r9k/ fuck that got the archive killed? Because if so I disagree with the comparison. The people that complain about Vjera wouldn't have the stones to actually do anything aside from anonymous shitposting.
>>
>people take this game seriously
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>>121515413
dumb avatarfag shitter being a dumb shitter what a surprise

>MUH RAIDS
>MUH PROGRESSION
>MUH WORLD FIRSTS
>MUH PRESTIGE

>>121515443
>It's a big improvement to PLD in general and I'd be really interested to hear your reasoning about why it isn't.

You can't use it as often. You don't get to use it to manage your TP now, it deals significantly less damage, and overall requires far less thought and input than it did before. It's just a generic "here's a little more dps if you hit me :^)" ability instead of being a useful tool that had a variety of applications.
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>>121515405
maybe? its level 50 gear so you could buy it off the mb
cant level higher than that without hw though
>>121515697
no sexualization..
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>>121515483
Before the Shield Swipe change:
- Using Shield Swipe consumes a GCD, and deals 210 potency of damage.

After the Shield Swipe change:
- The GCD in which you would have used Shield Swipe is now one of PLD's other GCD combos, which have an average potency of 247.
- This is already a 37 potency buff compared to using the current version of Shield Swipe
- You ALSO get the off-GCD Shield Swipe, for an additional 150 potency. It has now effectively been buffed by 187 potency.
- The only drawback is that now it doesn't conserve TP.

When you effectively buff a skill by almost 200 potency, it is being more than reasonable to give it a short 15 second cooldown and a slight TP increase.
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>>121515775
>continuing to persist with defending potatofags
>>121515934 is right, you really should get the fuck out, you'll do everyone a huge favour if you take a long walk off a short pier you kidfucker
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>>121515964
>Oh you mean the stupid /r9k/ fuck that got the archive killed?
what
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>>121515443
>big
>big
>substantial

It's not though, the two fights that struggle with DPS this patch have 50/50 tank swapping or no physical damage. You can barely even use the buff they gave PLD, and now they run out of TP even faster which is hilarious because that was the problem they were trying to fix. Even if you had 100% uptime on shieldswipe (you wont) you would only see a 11 pps increase factoring in Fight or Fight, not factoring in shield oath.

Thats about 30-40 DPS, which is nothing for a perfect scenario case. People just need to accept that this raid tier was not good for PLD and it will be low tier until we see next patch.

>>121515694
Nah I'm pretty gud right now
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>>121516031
It does more damage because you actually use it now.
>>
Vjera is actually a really nice person if you get to know her.
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>>121516017
>people take this thread seriously
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>>121516031
>taking the bait

>>121516017
>taking the seriousness

>>121516050
>taking the potato
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>>121515443
>Is it still a really substantial increase where PLD needs it the most? Absolutely.
>a really substantial increase
>really substantial
Come on, anon. Don't be disingenuous.
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>>121515443
>I'd be really interested to hear your reasoning about why it isn't.
We have no way to recoup TP. No way to mitigate loss short of hardcasting Clemency or fucking Stoneskin. They reduced the margin of player input by making it an oGCD, since before you had to consciously react to procs in order to not bleed TP.

It's amazing how they find new ways to make this game even more braindead than it already is.
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>>121516123
some fag from /r9k/ went and shot up some shit after he posted a "some of you are okay dont go to x tomorrow" meme
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>>121506789
>ippikek

Reminder, tis the season!

puu sh/hjJ82/281f909a43.mp4
>>
achtung: there are astrologians, in this thread right now, who are so bad at their class they literally can't clear any sort of group content without using synastry
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>>121515962
MUH DPS

>when attempting to communicate with a warrior, you'll often find they tend to just repeat muh dps, muh dps in a variety of different tones
>muh combos

Shield Swipe could be weaved between combos along with flash, and could be used to stun and pacify weave with shield bash on MULTIPLE TARGETS at a time.

Now it's just another MUH DPS ability because we want the brain dead WAR audience ;^)
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>>121516107
>>121515934
I wasn't even following the chain of responses, it just bothers me that shit tier images like that are being posted on here and no one even bats an eye anymore.
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>>121516203
>taking the potato
but its so good..
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>>121516192
>aligning with evil

The evidence is incontrovertible.
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>>121516178
What am I trying to find in this ima-
oh lord
Why no SCH though, it could have been better
>>
>>121516192
>her
and aren't getting more attention than him
>>
>>121516359
regardless, you activated the card, it'll be in your best interest to play by the rules.
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>>121516192
What she posts make me not want to know her though...
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>>121516351
>could be used to stun and pacify weave with shield bash on MULTIPLE TARGETS at a time
And that did fucking nothing. You can't pacify any relevant enemy. No one gives a fuck that you pacified an enemy in a dungeon so that it did slightly less damage. Losing DPS to put that pacification up was retarded. Fuck off.
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>>121516314
ye but i dont care about that stupid shit
whats it about him getting the archive killed
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>>121516192
I'd want to get to know Vjera only to control her. Seems really possessive.
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>>121516192
Yeah, like how she acts in this thread proves how nice she is enough.
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>>121516449
It was the only picture that had my gil in it thats recent

I think it goes down to like 1.63? with a scholar
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THIS PLACE IS JUST ONE GIANT MEME
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>>121516549
>You can't pacify any relevant enemy.

MUH RAIDING

MUH PROGRESSION

MUH WORLD FIRSTS

MUH E-PEEN

EVERYTHING SHOULD BE ABOUT MUH DPS

muh dps... muh dps... MUH DPS
>>
>nice person

>"Neck yourself, retard."

lol xivg
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>>121516773
Butthurt PLD babby can't handle the fact that his useless utility is being made useful.
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>>121516508
>>121516192
>>121516581
>>121516591
Vjera orbiteri are in this thread right now forcing this "she" meme like they're not a massively disgusting tranny
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>>121516665
>RNG element
>when sheltron and bulwark exist
>Neck yourself, retard.

Kill YOURSELF, you fucking mouth breathing inbred retarded idiot ape shiteater avatarfaggot.
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>>121516913
Hello to you too my meme man :')
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>this thread right now
SICKNESS
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>>121516778
neck yourself you fucking loser dipshit braindead nigger
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>>121516178
it's funny that there's this random ass buff to straight shot's TP cost and that somehow some way saves more fucking TP than any of PLD's changes.>>121516778
>call someone a "dumb avatarshitter being a dumb avatarshitter"
>chastise the target because they didn't respond to this nicely
lol, xivg.
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Hey lads, ex WoW player thinking about picking up this game. I'm not too keen on the art style, but I've heard great things about the gameplay. Blizzard's greed really pushed me away from WoW.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is does this game's end game systems work well and are the devs greedy assholes?
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>>121516898
I don't even play PLD anymore because it's so shit but I still love the class and want it to get changed to be not shit.

You're an idiot if you think this is a positive change or promotes any intelligent play over the current shield swipe.

>you know what pld needs? another muh dps ogcd filler ability to shit out between their combos because muh dps
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>>121516773
PLDs, everyone.
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>>121516178
It doesn't have to be a big benefit to Paladin for this particular content patch to be a big benefit to Paladin in general.

Like if there was a fight on an arena the size of post-heart Titan Extreme, except from start to finish the fight had a version of that one T9 Heavensfall pattern that moves in a big circle around the arena, and it killed you instantly if it ever touched you, and it never stopped moving, ever, then BLM would be a shit class on that fight, even if you gave the class some gigantic buff like doubling the potency of Fire IV. The relative uselessness of that buff in a fight that sucks that hard for the core of BLM doesn't mean that it wouldn't be a gigantic buff to the class as a whole.

You can't, or at least shouldn't, do your assessment of class efficacy based on things that are completely specific to the current raid tier and that could be completely reversed three months from now.

In any singletarget fight with physical auto-attacks, it's somewhere in the range of a 5-7% DPS increase for the class. A 5-7% DPS increase fits my definition of "substantial" pretty much without qualification.
>>
Who gives a shit about PLD

I want to know why the fuck BRD still have Warden's Paean.

At least they fixed the fucking Straigher Shot proc.
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>>121517113
>are the devs greedy assholes?
Yes
>>
>>121517113
>but I've heard great things about the gameplay
You got some weird ears then.
>>
Mechanics are bored. Time for A4S and homosexuality.
>>
>>121517146
>implying I didn't switch to the shitter tank WAR since it's babby mode easy wins right now.

>>121517227
Case in point, retards like this are able to coast through the game with their retard mode class WAR.
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>>121517361
XD
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>>121516665
You first buddy.
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>>121517113
>not too keen on the art style
>implying WoW's artstyle was any better.
fuck off back to your crime show budget looking game you platypus looking motherfucker
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>>121517361
XD
>>
>>121516773
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_KCSMZYsmE

For you, from everyone who actually plays paladin.
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>>121517113
Never played WoW so I can't compare really. What do you mean by "end game systems"? Raiding is on a weekly lockout, and you are pretty much forced to join a static if you want to clear more than the initial two stages. Gearing is relatively easy, and the upcoming patch will make it extremely easy. Money doesn't play a part aside from being able to afford consumables and vanity items. Devs are greedy enough, although I doubt they will be letting people buy max level characters any time soon if that's the sort of thing you are talking about.
>>
>PLDs would have been somewhat viable if the content catered to them a little bit more
>despite Yoshi promising to cater to them more, PLDs receive a solid buff in terms of DPS, TP and fun
>PLDs complain about it
what
>>
>>121517538
>muh linkin a youtube video of people laughing because i'm an uncreative retard with no argument

lmao
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>>121512746
Unfortunately, with the release of the c@ loli in 3.0, slutbots, mostly made up of c@s and hyurs, started to salivate all over it.
It kinda gave up and real weight calling the lalas a pedo, considering we realized all the ERPers are RL pedophiles.
Nice job avatar fags.
>>
>>121517113
>>121517228
>>121517462
>>121517278

Don't mind these faggots, they're just pretending to be butthurt. The game's actually enjoyable on the right server and fellowship
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>>121517571
They will not be happy until they do the same damage as war but keep their current mitigation.
>>
>121517575
>>121517575
>>121517575
>121517575

git along lil doggies, yip yip
>>
PLD is fucking fine, the problem is DPS checks in this game.
>>
>>121517113
I only played Wotlk wow, but in most aspects I prefer this game atm
a lot less to do in terms of raiding atm because we are still at the .0 patch of this level cap increase
Next week is .1 though
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>>121517192
5-7% of what? PLDs already low DPS? Are you factoring in that it can only be used as MT and subsequently shield oath uptime as MT? Are you factoring in the fact that it cannot be used in A4S? Are you factoring in that it still needs a parry so it will never be 100% uptime? You can make up theoretical situations but that does not mean that in a perfect scenario 11 pps (which 1 potency is about 4.5ish damage to a gear PLD) is going to be anything game breaking. You are correct in that it is a buff, I never said it was a nerf, it's just too limited by fight selection to be anything worth mentioning as a deciding factor in whether PLD is good or not. They should have gone another route and I dont really have a doubt in my mind that we will see more PLD catered fights in Alex 2.
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>>121517227
>>121517697
>>121517361
>>121517093
>>121516913
>>121516773
>>121516709
>>121516665
>>121516192
>>
>>121517571
Oh, and an enmity buff assuming Swipe keeps the enmity mod, which is incredibly necessary due to how lacking Halone is compared to Butcher's/Power
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>>121517773
>war does great damage, tanks fine
>drk does great damage, tanks fine
>pld does shit damage, tanks fine
>this is fine
Fuck you faggot
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>>121517682
Cute, not pedo.
You are just jealous we have the best kids, nobody give a shit about the hyurs and elezens kids around.
>>
>>121517702
>Cash shop on a sub-based game
>Only way to get more inventory space is tied to a monthly-based service
>Not greedy
Okay. I bet you love season passes and on-disc DLC too.
>>
Hello xivg I am learning the ways of the shinobi

I am using the prepull suiton opener, what is my priority system after that though? What I have been doing is reapplying DE, then doing an AC to refresh huton, then SF, then Mut. After that I just sort of reapply things as they run out, use TA off CD, etc. I figure it's best to just use stuff asap instead of trying to wait to string a bunch of attacks together. However, there are times when I am faced with the choice to use an AC or reapply a dot, or reapply DE vs. reapply SF, that sort of thing.

Are my priorities huton > DE > Mut > SF?
>>
>>121517976
>You have no idea what my race is
>>
>>121516773
those are some convincing arguements, buddy
>>
>>121513263
>flying and shooting
>flying broom lost its cantrip
why live
>>
>>121517827
Against anything physical, you're very likely going to have near 100% uptime. You will at the very MINIMUM have 50% uptime.

This is a welcome change. It's not a game changer, but it makes that one ability quite a lot less terrible and useless.
>>
>>121517131
There is no "intelligent play" involved with Shield Swipe. You avoid using it as much as possible, unless you're in a fight that lasts so long that you'll run out of TP, in which case you use it as few times as possible to avoid running out of TP. And even running out of TP is probably preferable to using Shield Swipe as long as it's only for a few seconds at the end of a phase.

Like, that's IT. That is the entireity of the nuance to Shield Swipe. It's the closest thing that any melee-based class has to Scathe. And it's being replaced with a version that raises your overall DPS.

There is no intelligent way to not see it as a positive change. The best you're going to do is to make an argument where it isn't a positive ENOUGH change to change anything (which is probably true).
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>>121518026
SF is more important than Mut as it's more potency per tick.
Also if you can afford to not lose Huton, make sure to SF and Mut before AC to get them ticking
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>>121517645
there's nothing to argue about, paladins are retarded all on their own to the point where their very existence is laughable
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>>121517827
Ignoring all the stuff that's specifically talking about its application in Gordias, because I already covered that

5-7% of Paladin's low DPS, yes. It's not going to change the DPS rankings between the tanks, but it's going to take a reasonable chunk out of the damage gap.

It's not going to make you start taking Paladins as the preferred tanks to fights that are primarily based on DPS checks, nor are you likely to ever take a Paladin to a speed clear in any fight.

But it's probably going to close the damage gap enough that you don't find yourself saying "Man, having a Paladin Main Tank this fight would be PERFECT and would make life so much easier on us... Except that the extra DPS from the DRK is going to reduce the difficulty even more." That's all it needs to do.
>>
I will give someone 50 mil gil for a A4S carry.
>>
>people bitch that PLDs are the kek tanks
>PLD recieves TP buffs and a DPS-boosting buff that makes one of their abilities actually viable for endgame
>people now cry that the ability is "ruined"

PLD mains confirmed for keks to the point that they embrace it
>>
>>121519194
>only 50m
lmao
>>
I have a very hard time imagining paladin mains are the ones angry about the shield swipe change.
>>
>>121514467
As a BRD turned SMN I can confirm that I'm outside of even the WHM's healing range 90% of the time
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>>121503783

Dancer, Blue Mage, Puppetmaster, Red Mage, Samurai

All jobs that are likely to be added.
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>>121516314
That isn't Elliot Rogers. It was the guy who did the Oregon Shooting, but I can't remember his name because the media was all spooky boogy about him.
>>
Will the change to Shield Swipe still require you to block a hit before you can use it?
>>
>>121516549
It's obvious it was meant to be a pvp skill since as you said it can't be used on anything in any pve content that matters.
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>>121520923
Sorry but either you or your WHM is doing something really, really wrong.
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