/vtg/ Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide General

lumberfoots

>>121184891
YOOOOR

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>>121184891
>>121185090

Why they bully dwarf so much?

I really fucking like this game.

Even after 50 hours of dorf no boredom in sight.

Havent even touched one of the other classes.

Why has it taken so long for a decent Warhammer game to emerge? The IP just begs for all kinds of adaptions. Am i overlooking something here?

>>121184340
>keep getting junk items
>if I fuse them I'll just get more of the same junk
I wish there was an options to just get a completely random items from a fuse.

>>121185402
You are overlooking the complete retardation of GW and their primary focus on a dying tabletop game with outrageous prices.

>>121185348
everyone bullies everyone in this game

it's funny how everyone pretend it's just the elf

>>121185637

Decent Vidya with such a strong IP would also strenghten the tabletop, wouldnt it?

>>121185793
Kruber doesn't bully anyone.

>>121185793
BW and dwarf seem like friends.

>>121185843
Except they already nuked the WHFB tabletop.

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>>121185874
huh yea I guess that's true

kruber never says shit in my games
>>121185937
yea there are some friendships

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Skavenfags need to die.

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>>121186121
Man-thing pls go-go.

>>121186121
Tight musky skaven asshole raped raw by a rat ogre's cock and left a gaping, cum filled mess

>>121186121
It seems nothing can draw interest on 4chan without someone sexualizing it.

Skaven fetishes are one of the only ones I find sincerely disturbing though

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>>121186530
>>121186536
OUT.

>>121186878
That stupid music video will haunt me forever. God damn it.

>>121186121
I really like Skaven tho, used to collect them

People who sexualize them are degenerates however

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These values only work with the dwarf. To change your speed and gravity you will need to search for the exact double 4. Make sure you have rounded default on or it will not work. You should add a hotkey for next scan exact value. After you scanned for 4, add 2.4 for the scan value. Go back into your game and hold right click to block with your sword not gun. Wait one second then hit your hotkey to scan for the exact value 2.4. Add the address with the value of 4 to your list after you release your block.

Now browse the memory region and make the display type double. Right click the 4 you found and click the option add address to list. In the address box add the off set 3c0 for gravity and 450 for speed. If you have trouble finding the offset the value for gravity is 11 and speed will be the value 1 a couple addresses below it.

Now you can make a negative address for gravity to fly.

The way I find max health is by searching the memory for the byte array of (you do this by right clicking in browse memory and selecting search memory. Make sure to check array of byte instead of text. The array to scan from should be 0020F6A8 to 9FFFFFFF)
00 00 00 00 00 C0 62 40 A0 1A * * FB FF FF FF * * * * * * * * * * * * FF FF FF FF * * * * FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 * * * * * * * * F4 FF FF FF A0 3B * * FB FF FF FF

for cata the byte array is
00 00 00 00 00 00 59 40 A0 1A * * FB FF FF FF * * * * * * * * * * * * FF FF FF FF * * * * FF FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 * * * * * * * * F4 FF FF FF A0 3B * * FB FF FF FF

you will see two 150 values if it is not cata and two 100 values for cata. Change these to a high number. You'll need to search this four times to find the values of all of the bots or players.
how to fly with CE

literally just wiped on the way to the elevator cause a poison rat spawned and gased the hole

What does luck do? I found a trinket with luck on it.

>>121188318
i get turned on when holes gas... hard now

>>121186701
>>121187161
At least there's no fart fetishists talking about the Globadiers. Thank Sigmar for small mercies, I guess

Ok so I'm level 30 and still no trinkets, so where can i find how to inject lua and have infinite barrels?

Go eat a dick FatShark.

>>121185793

BW is one of the nicest ones out of everyone, and the Soldier is hesitant but he's not outright mean. BW likes to tease WH (ex she pokes fun at him getting medical attention from a 'witch') but ultimately she's the friendliest

Even the Elf likes her

>>121185957
They actually already just put WHFB back up on the black library today
AoS is apparently doing that badly

>>121181839 #

Starting to hate that shit. And just now I had a stormverim patrol literally circling the bell entrance on engines and doing 360s when they were about to leave the door. Never seen them March back and forth before.

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>Oh boy, finally a good game with a general that isn't overrun with waifuposting
>Sure am glad there are no fapbait characters in this game
>People shitpost about lewd skaven now

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>>121186878
Shut your whore mouth

>>121186049
Only times Kruber goes grumpy is when someone gives him a field day.

>Elf: This horrible, disgusting city..
>Kruber: Is. Where. I. Am. From.

>>121189196
That fucking elf is cruising for a bruising on her labia I swear to god.

>>121188746
What's your Steam profile? I'll add you and we can do a few runs.

>>121189370
Kruber and Kerillian definitely have hyper aggressive sex after WR

>The whole town's asleep!
>Skaven are marching through the streets
>Some can be seen banging on doors trying to get into buildings
>Get up to the rooftops
>You can see that 1/4th of the city is on fire
>As you enter the tower, you can hear several explosions rock the city

The city must sleep pretty fucking heavy.

>>121189786
He might've meant that people weren't mobilizing and everything was in disorganized chaos.

>>121189786
Asleep as in nothings happening.
They're dead, anon

>>121189606
>I don't know about my feet, but I got a big piece of wood under my codpiece

THE WORLD IS ENDING

>>121190052
GRAY MAGIC, THAT'S WHY

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STOP YOUR WHORING AND SODOMIZING SINNER! I SHALL CLEANSE YOU WITH MY BLOOD!

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>tfw didn't know about friendly fire on my first Nightmare try

>>121190052
Skaven? What Skaven? What's a Skaven?

You silly lot will make up stories about anything. A few rats weasel their way into the granary and engorge themselves, next thing you know everyone is screaming about absurd tomfoolery such as giant marauding ratmen.

>>121190692
i've yet to attempt nightmare

the thought of friendly fire with pubs is too much

>>121190915
It isn't really a problem with ranged weapon hits, it does like 1% health damage.

The problem is people forget about it and toss a bomb into the middle of their team.

where the fuck do i aim to get headshots with the rapier, what animation lets me know i got one.


Witchhunter best class all others are heretics.

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>"I will find it, even if it takes my whole life."

What is Bardin talking about?

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>>121191306
The head
The head falls off

>>121190692
>>121190915

Honestly, besides bombs the friendly fire damage is negligible. Taking a few shots is barely noticeable (with a few exceptions, shotguns for example).

>>121191306
The head? They grab their head or it falls off?

>>121191306
Their head explodes or they straighten out and grab at their throat.

>>121191393
He's looking for a lost Dwarven hold. He was in the city to buy something that would help him decypher a map he found.

>>121191306
Aim for the head to get headshots.

Their heads will fall off or they will clutch their face/throat and fall over. That's how you know you got a headshot.

>>121191401
>>121191508
so the animation where they grab their throat isn't a headshot?


also witchhunter tips, what should I be doing in my group?

>>121191393
Sekret treasures

>>121185348
Only the Elf seems to do that.
Kruber seems to have a kill count with Bardin hence his comments.
"Al right, al right. You've killed a few."

>>121191609
use strength potion and burn ogres with brace of pistols

>>121191306
Aim at the head, with the charged attack that's fairly easy, with the normal swings you need to keep the way your weapon moves in mind. There are only 2 different normal swing animations, so even that isn't too hard.

Also, while the sign of landing a headshot is cutting their head off, the angle from which you hit the head doesn't matter.

>>121191609
It's the headshot animation for the stab. If you headshot with a swing, it'll take their head off entirely.

>>121191609
on ogres either rapier charge their back over and over or use brace alternate to spam headhots (headshots better if you can consistently do it and get in front)

spam rapier regular attack to clear shit or if at range and not worried about ammo then spam brace

Does the normal attack of the conflag staff get a bonus for head shots?

Obviously it doesn't say headshot on the stat screen. But I always feel like I do more damage with head shots and vermin tend to react differently when getting hit in the head with it.

>>121191743


How many witchhunters here ignore the zweihander and axe?

The pistol rapier combination is too stylish for me to switch ;~;

>>121191707
Kruber and Bardin are the ultimate bros

>>121191527
In one of the later levels, it can trigger a conversation where he tells that he's found the shop in the dwarven quarter that had the book he was looking for.

The Skaven burned it to the ground because the owner barricaded himself inside.

>>121191964
pistol rapier is favorite but I can understand the reasoning for zwei

>>121185874
When Bardin complains about Kruber stealing his kills Kruber will sometimes say "Guess you need to be faster then, master Goreksson" but that's about it

how do i keep the fire bitch from taking all my kills
my trap bf plays her and then gloats about his kills ;-;

>>121191964
In maps that feature a lot of wide open spaces, I take the rapier - it's my favourite and a single swipe can interrupt two or three skaven - plus, the pistol shot can put slave rats down.

In closed spaces, it's the zweihander, and I keep close to a shielder.

>>121191964
>>121192125
Is WH the only one with Zweihander style 2H swords? because I was really hoping for them on my Soldier.

>>121185874
He's sometimes rude to Bardin.

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How's my first orange lads?

>>121192436
Soldier gets a greatsword.

>>121192436
Yeah, soldier has them too.

>>121192604
Could be better.

>>121192604
Not good, the only decent trait is perfect balance.

>>121188318
>gased the hole
l-lewd

I want more Dwarf things. What do?

>>121193117
Kill elves.

>>121193117
Pray

>>121193117
Spread those asscheeks nice and wide so the RNG can fuck you nice and easily. Maybe it'll be gracious enough to give you some scraps after its fucked your ass raw.

Just got booted from my game because Steam is down.

>>121193117
Cry yourself to sleep

>>121193964
same and I had a decent group

>>121193964
Yep first it is maintenance then it is steam. Double cock block.

>>121193964
>farming Cata White Rat exploit
>last one up, killing a couple skaven
>spin around, OH SHIT, THE LAST SKAVEN, HE'S GONNA GET ME
>game goes down
I'm not sure weather to be thankful or not.

White Rat, last Chain with dwarf befor it and oger on the elfs ass and Steam dies

Had a good Wizard Tower group and steam just HAS to go down ;_;

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>>121190052

>>121192604
>Scavenger, Heroic Killing Blow

I'm sorry

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>>121190052
YET FEW BELIEVE IT

>>121188327
essentially dictates how much the AI director hates you, but nobody can prove it yet
50% luck increase turns the director a notch down from "literally hitler"

>>121194735
How is Scavenger bad?

It's back up.

>>121194841
So luck is 100% a necessity of you're doing Nightmare+ runs? I thought luck either affected dice rolls or upped the chance of any of your random chance items to proc.

>>121194910
Because at least I've never had to handgun snipe over 24 specials in a row before ammo.
And if you're using anything else while pretending to tank shit then you'd be a shitter.

>>121194910
>>121195198
Not to mention, say it's always a spot off from bloodlust or regrowth.

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>>121195058
most people are saying it has nothing to do with loot rolls since those happen outside the main game.

Many people are noticing, for instance, decreased specials spawn and increased frequency of potions/meds/ammo, though wether it's a placebo effect or not is still in the air.

Nightmare is fairly easy on horn of expliots though, even without exploits. I don't know about harder maps though having high "luck" probably can't hurt.
>>121194735
>get heroic killing blown on a charged attack with a 2h hammer for empire soldier
>take it for a spin
>rat ogre on horn of exploits in the hog pit
>go up behind him while he's distracted with me
>land one hit
>land another hit
>dies instantly to a 2.5% chance of instant slay
pubbies momentarily thought I was hacking

>>121195613
>>go up behind him while he's distracted with me

*teleports behind u*

Bows are so far behind other classes ranged options it's sad.

Maybe with better targeting the truesight arrows would be good

>>121197964
Just like Fresh Off The Boat!

>>121197363
bows are dependable long ranged sniping.

Trueflight if your sniping with no crowds

Longbow for sniping with crowds.

Other ranged apart from wizard penalises you if you miss.

Also its really geared around headshots.

>HoM
>Everyone is still damn well devoted to cheesing it
>Cheesing it tends to create more problems with escape than actually doing it legit
>It's not even particularly hard to do the last encounter with 2grim

I don't get this community.

>>121199187
>It's not even particularly hard to do the last encounter with 2grim
Unless, you know, you're playing on nightmare difficulty and the director decides its time for 4 Stormvermin and a pack master in addition to the horde that's already in front of you. I'll take my chances with the escape, thank you.

>>121192447
It's manly camaraderie.

>>121199603
It's still not difficult to do on nightmare.

It's literally

>Find corner
>Get melee infront
>Watch for poison rats

>>121199603
That's what you should be saving those bombs for ya goof. Close quarters stormvermin.

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>>121200206
>close quarter bomb
>nightmare
ok mate

why is everyone in this game so afraid of using buff potions

I can understand not wanting to waste them but when we're getting worn down by hordes and storm vermin and then you guys pass four buff potions at oliver's inn why do you even grab them in the first place

>>121185226

>>121200527
>Bomb FF a danger before Cata
>Not knowing how to throw the bomb just behind the vermin and not in their face

The alternative is for someone to take a stormvermin halberd in their face most likely. I'll much rather suffer FF ticklies and not wipe.

>>121199187
I got wiped pretty easy when doing it legit. One glob on nightmare and the whole group is GG. Happens so often. fugging Globes.

>>121201372
>chug potions like candy against hordes and storm vermin
>random anon asks why you wasting them
>he doesnt use his until were in the cart
every time

>>121187803
https://youtu.be/DJUIs3yTHkU?t=96

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>TFW can't stop attacking the elf by accident

Goddammit you hunched fur-wearing little asshole, stand up.

>>121201830
>not turning outlines always on

>>121201814
>chugging on poitions all the time.
>Ratoger next corner
>good thing we have oure strength potions, right guys :^)

Dont be that guy, Also get the Trinket for group effect at potion.

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>>121202001
>Rat Ogre spawns
>Pop strength pot, sharing it with my comrades
>We all throw bombs at him
Never fails.

>>121202001
wouldn't matter since the three other players haven't touched their potions since they found it and only one of them will chug one when the ogre spawns

>cata matchmaking
>matched into black powder exploit lobby
>shoot barrels

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>tfw Just rolled a 7 and got the ugly ass red soldier hat
Goddamnit, game, is pic related too much to ask.

>>121202156
mah nigga

>>121201830
>TFW can't stop attacking the elf on purpose

Fuck elves

I got the skull mask as my first helm.

>>121202438
Black Powder has another exploit?

>>121203580
stay on the ladder senpai

>>121203151
Probably my least favourite headpiece in the game. I have the dragon helm for dorf but I want some of the exotic headpieces, especially the Gromthi and Galar.

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>Elf joins game
>Framerate suddenly drops
>I mean, like, really drops
>Fuck, we 5 FPS now
>A million rats swarm us and don't stop spawning

Seems like someone's having a giggle with the cheat engine, RIP my computer

>>121199187
>>121199603

why the fuck would you even be running HoM if you're farming anyway?

enemy below is faster and way easier

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>>121203659
Man, I love this game

>>121204379
People are obsessed with using exploits.

>>121204379
Not them, but I legitimately enjoy HoM.
Second only to wizard tower.

>>121204379
No one seems to know where the tomes and grims are so you get shit rolls.

>>121204492
so, you're a masochist?

>>121204542
i've done multiple pubs yesterday and today on enemy below and every one of them has known what they're doing

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>>121204691
I just solo farm white rat cata if I want items senpai.

>>121203659
Which ladder though? There's a lot of ladders.

>>121205419
Guess you have a lot of ladders to check.

Anybody else playing cracked version? Playing the current patch 1.0.1.2. but there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of people playing it.
Hearing how easy it is to cheat the game makes me glad I didn't spend on it.

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>>121205593
Guess I had that coming.

>>121205630
>Hearing how easy it is to cheat the game makes me glad I didn't spend on it.

why? it's not pvp

would it be better to use a green fireball staff or a white beam staff? asking because I feel like fireball fuckin sucks

>>121204882
tits are shit desu

>>121206530
Depends what the trait is

I have a fireball staff that heals on hit + reduced vent damage, it's mad fun

How would you rate the usefulness, from best to worse of each character weapon category?

>>121205630
It's like a pen and paper game, sure you can cheat and give your self great gear, you can make some encounters easier, some people like to, some people don't
it's your experience

>>121206717
it only has heals on hit, no vent damage or anything. and it's only a 5% at 5 health

>>121206530
dude what? i just got a exo beam staff and I hate it

yea the shotgun blast is nice for hordes, but you can do it like once before you break the threshold

fireball and conflag are so much better

are there red weapons in this game are all reds helmets?

>>121207367
I just don't feel like either Fireball or Conflag do their job at crowd control

>>121207538
Red quality weapons apparently were a thing they were planning on having but scrapped it/couldn't finish it for release.

>>121207624
You must not be very good. They're fire and forget

>>121207815
>shoot a pile of rats with a fireball
>none of them fucking die

great!

>>121207980
you must be doing something extremely wrong, a uncharged fireball oneshots trash

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Garbage or nah

>>121208315
maybe, I don't think it's anything like lag or anything but I'm hitting them with the goddamn ball and nada.

>>121208497
It's not a handgun so it's pretty shit.

>>121208497
Optimal? Probably not, no. But it looks really fucking fun

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>complete all missions on nightmare unlocked
>still have to do wc nightmare
oh

Is the soldier repeater different from the wh one, it seems to be less shit and actually useful and also rivals wh pistol dps against ogres.

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How much damage do you get hit with on nightmare by Friendly Fire?

It seems like nothing when it's melee. Fireballs only seem to have an effect and I shot my team several times and there was not a scratch.

Was this just made to stop BW and Drake alt fires from helping teamates?

>>121209083
You only need to do the main missions, not the side ones.

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>Ogre shows up
>Time to get to work
>Check around me real quick for stray enemies
>Pop str pot, spreading it to everyone, whip out pistols
>Get about 5 shots off before I take a hit from behind
>Turn around to find a single slave rat that came from who knows where
>Elf not 2 feet behind it trying to snipe the ogre

So if it's not currently aggroed on you it's just not your problem or what

A WHIRLWIND OF RAT KILLING

>Your characters in Vermintide will have the option of importing them into Total War: Warhammer as heroes characters.
>This will also include the gear you earned with bonuses based on the highest difficulty missions you successfully completed.


Wait, did I dream this?

>>121211232
Considering the games have no relation besides the IP, I'd say so.

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>2 level 5's thinking they can do hard on horn
>They die before they even reach the tower

>balaclava elf
It actually suits her

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>>121185226

>>121188487
Globadiers remind me of Bioshock 1 and 2. The way the look, they way they walk, the noises they make.

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After more exploitation of the game's lua, it seems it's possible to make all difficulties have the loot pool of cata.

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>All the armor used by the heroes are super toned down, in contrast to the iconic over the top stylization
>No over the top comic relief or super dark humor. All the jokes are the heroes teasing each other like a bunch of office workers.
>The witchhunter doesn't even burn anyone
Am I even playing a warhammer game?

>>121213169
>Not a single reference to grudges from the dwarf
That's like, their one and only gimmick that ties them to warhammer

>>121213169
I hope they add lots more, not just in terms of visuals but content in general. I only have a few levels left to finish on cata and after that I don't know what's going to keep me playing.

>>121213169

https://gaarawarrgabs.wordpress.com/2010/03/09/visual-guide-to-sovereign-armor-sets/

Tfw no based sovereign tier designs

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Anyone got any good Skaven lore/comics?

I want a good read.

>>121189492
Not him but I'd like to since my table keeps crashing every game. I can work around it by rstarting the game after every 2 missions but fuck it. Are you in the autistic group? Leave a comment like "I want to gargle on Skaven cum" and lets play.

>>121214207
The End Times officially sponsored by Games Workshop™ :^)
Don't forget to buy some Sigmarines© so our financial report doesn't look like garbage in April

>>121214207
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>>121214398
>Are you in the autistic group?
Nope. Is there any way for me to see the comments posted there? If so, post that and I'll add you.

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>>121214601
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/whvtg
scroll down

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>>121214469
>>121214434
I'm looking more along the lines of this

>>121214696
I can read them but I'm not seeing that particular comment...

>>121214882
That comic is in the OP. It's only 1 issue and it;s not long though. Focuses more on chaos than skaven.

>>121202156
>carrying shitters through rat ogres by getting 4 strength pot off
I love this trinket, can't imagine how good the ones beyond green are

>>121215183
Thanks downloading now. I really like the skaven they feel like like a poor man's ork in 40k

>>121215254
Which trinket is it? The 20% bomb saving one or potion one?

what is this game

do I defend redwall

>>121215756

L4D with skyrim combat

>still no Stormcast DLC
>Stormfiends still not included in the game.

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>tfw there are only a few nightmare games

Damn it feels bad to be gud.

>>121216217
Holy fuck I got carried so hard in a nightmare match.

2 level 50's and a level 70 I barely did anything I felt bad. Then again I was doing my best to focus on not team hitting.

Also are there less enemies on nightmare? It felt like there was less than hard.

>>121216376
A major flaw with this game is how difficult/easy it can be depending entirely on RNG from the 'director' deciding on whether or not to shit all over your group.

>>121215608
I've got the orange shared potion one and the blue chance not to consume potions one. great combo

>>121216691
Do potion effects stack?

>>121216558
I heard it likes to snowball like crazy. Which would explain why people tend to heal more from growth when they are doing better than vice versa

>>121209083
>not doing W&C nightmare with a pug

got it on the 2nd try

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>>121216558

>Hiding from stormvermin patrol
>Grabber suddenly yanks teammate out the door
>Right into the patrol
>Everyone charges out ready to go
>A second grabber grabs me
>Horn sounds

Couldn't hear those niggers at all through the KLIK KLAK

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Is this axe good? The damage seems insane.
>Scavenger=ammo thing
>Devastating blow=push force
>Second win=chance of not consuming stamina when blocking
Devastating blow seems fine but more fit a shield. The rest don't appeal me too much.


'd also like to ask something. Could somebody make a .png chart of all the weapon traits and weapon types and post it in the next op? To have easy access to it and remember what the icons represent and also have the best traits for each type of weapon per class as well.

>>121216927
I've pugged everything so far, just been getting shitty luck on WC and the groups

>>121209608
melee doesn't do FF damage

anything that isn't sustained damage won't hurt your teammates too much, but it adds up. any elf that does nothing but fire their bow in nightmare is cancer. only shoot things that are far away from your group, or are specials. also a poorly placed bomb can kill your whole fucking team.

>>121217313
I was kind of bragging. our group was competent for a pug, everyone knew what they were doing

had a much harder time getting a good pug for hard mode. it's a map that will fuck you over easy if you have tards

>>121217354
Oh thank you for clarifying that. I didn't want to test out any theories.

>>121209478
yea it's good, it or handgun are the good soldier choices I think

>>121217495
I figured as much, my experience with nightmare pugs have been so hit or miss. I had the same experience you had with WC but on white rat instead

Is the Drakk gun charged good against the Ogre or should I just pelt him with regular fire?

>>121217495

Nightmare runs are usually more successful than Hard. Hard acts as a barrier to keep morons out of most of the levels, the exceptions being BP and Horn. If you're doing nightmare W&C, it means you're with people who did Hard W&C, which is virtually impossible for your average pub.

>>121217747
Nigga normal was too hard for me.

>>121216927
Does pug=pubs?

>>121216927
>>121217313
>>121217495

been doing pug wc all day

I already had my clear a few days ago there is something wrong with me

>>121217905
yea
pick up group vs public game / group, means the same thing just worded differently

>>121217905

Yeah. It stands for Pick Up Group, which means rando commandos.

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>He doesn't pug every time
Casuals the lot of ye.

>>121218121
that's literally what we're talking about anon
almost everyone / if not everyone here pugs all the time

>>121216754
yes and to incredible effect
drinking two speed potions will make you swing a twohanded hammer overhand super fucking fast, as well as move with extreme urgency

strength potion stacking isn't as fun except when you can take out a storm vermin in one smack. Theoretically if you had everyone with a potion sharing trinket and you all drank potions you would all stack the effects of each potion you drank, overall increasing everyone's damage or speed massively.

>>121217853

So imagine the caliber of player you'd be finding on Nightmare or Cata W&C. Hard is a massive, impassible barrier for 99% of players; it acts as a filter through which only the finest, most refined players in the game may pass.

>>121218424
>finest most refined players
let's not get ahead of ourselves
hard is really easy to carry especially compared to nightmare / cata

>>121214929
Just now I read it. Go check now. You'll know it when it happens.

>>121218424
You're exaggerating the difficulty of W&C on hard. All you need is a group of people that know how to kill stormvermin and you'll probably succeed.

>>121215902
>skyrim combat
You're being far too generous to Bethesda's TES. This is at least on par with Chivalry and KF2 with the difference that enemeis flank you and surround like madmen.

>>121218672
Melee weapons in Skyrim couldn't really hit multiple targets at once either.

>>121218840
greatsword swing

>>121218672

I'm talking about the player combat.

>Click to swing
>Hold to power attack
>Click to shoot bow/spell/gun
>m2 to block
>m2 m1 to bash/shove

It's the exact same thing, the only noteworthy differences are being able to back/sidehop and hit multiple targets at once.

>>121213327
He mentions grudges and the book thereof re: the skaven.

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>>121213871
God damn, WAR had such excellent armor sets. Warrior Priest gear in particular, I love it.

>>121218672
>Elf yells "They seek to suround us"
>they really ARE seeking to surround you.

>>121220684
Anyone for Cata Well? BW or Elf here

>>121220734
>>121220684
Didn't mean to quote, sorry .

>>121220684
>game is called Vermintide
>there really is a vermin tide

whoah

>>121220898
That's some crazy shit, ain't it?

What kind of hats does the soldier have, my sole reason for playing it at this point is to replace the ugly ass hat.

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>>121220898

You might not have noticed this unless you took a couple courses on video game design at your local college, but when the swarm comes you can hear the dwarf say "The tide comes and finds me ready"

He's referring to the horde of rats as a tide, a VERMIN tide, if you will

>>121221238
Nothing as good as the companion.

>>121221238
helmets

Guise I think they should make more characters, there is a long play value for each character so it would add a lot of playtime if they did that.

Also we need some sort of a crazy ass chaos realm map for diversity.

Have they given any hints as to what they are doing in the future

>get first Orange
>it's a Hammer/Shield

I mean... yeah, I got lucky, it's got decent perks and I know shielding Bright Wizards is a strong combo, but smashing shit left and right with a Great Hammer is infinitely more satisfying.

>>121221286

Are helmet drops more common on cata than they are on nightmare? Also are they always a 7 roll

>>121221665
They are more common. Once I had a helment on a 5 6 and 7.

No, I didn't get it.

Also, anyone for glitched White Rat Cata? I'll show you how to do it.

>>121204691
Where's the last tome on enemy within?
>in the muck
>in that tall room tucked away in a corner
>?

>>121221404

They cancelled most of the future developments due to exceptionally poor sales. You may have noticed that we stopped getting daily updates when the game is still riddled with bugs and exploits

>>121222062
Did they really?

>>121222183

Nah I just like lying to see if people will believe it

>>121222062
Do you really think some one would do that. Go onto the internet and tell lies?

>>121222254
Well, it's believable. I was interested from when it was released but was hesitant due to the small number of reviews it had, when I expected a game like this to blow up.

I mean, on paper, the idea is fucking great. L4D with gear rolling, 5 different playstyles and a much higher difficulty? But it just seems to have scooted by relatively unnoticed.

>>121222471

Because virtually every single lobby was BP or Horn for a week straight and they lost a shitload of players who became frustrated with poor rolls, bored of the same 2 levels over and over again, or got all of their oranges and lost all reason to play.

If you ask me they need to give you dice based on how far you make it through the level, and maybe upgrade the dice based on how well you do in random categories.

People are just going to keep running the easiest most well-known levels over and over again in order to minimize their chances of losing, because wiping at the very end is basically a total waste of ~20 minutes.

does the charge attack with a shield actually do damage, or is it just a free push?

>>121222471

If you buy a 4chins ad for the game it can still be saved.

>>121223152
It does damage, just less. On cataclysm, my orange hammer/shield takes about 4-5 charged hits to kill anything, but you really use the charge attack for that sweet gigantic knockback on all the skaven.

>>121223152
It does damage and you can pile up the bodies with it pretty quickly on account of its speed.

>>121221994
http://www.vermintidedb.com/missions/below.php

check this next time if you didn't already. hope it helps

How hard is cata in comparison to nightmare

>>121222979
I reckon there should be a reward for taking out storm patrols, to go with the risk:reward playstyle they have going.

I'd like there to be a shop, or some other form of trading goods that ISN'T running a map for 20-30 minutes and literally rolling a fucking die hoping to get the colour I want.

They also need to offer greater rewards for completing harder maps, or remove some of the difficulty from them; as you said, there's no reason at all to do anything but the easiest maps because everything else is inefficient. I'd LIKE to do W&C or WR, but there's zero point to it considering the high chance of failure for no better loot.

More upgrades to weapons that don't rely on fucking chance would also be nice. A way to specialize weapons, for instance, or simply more effects.

While I'm fucking dreaming, I'd also like a ferrari and a lifetime pass at Subway.

So, if you have devastating blows on your shield, is there a reason to still use charge attacks?

>>121223416
you forgot the ;)

>>121223553

>shop
>wanting people to lose reasons to play even faster

lol

>>121222471
It did blow up from their point of view.

It sold way more than they were expecting which is why they had to upgrade their backend a couple times.

>>121222979
That is completely on the players though.
If play the game just for loot of course there isnt much to do.
BP was only good for lots of average loot and HoM is one of the worst long levels to run.

It isn't Fatsharks fault that people dont understand how dice work and think that you should get good rolls without going out of your way to get good dice.
>>121223553
Stormvermin patrols are there to punish players who aren't paying attention, I dont see them ever giving rewards.

>>121223484
quite the difficulty hike

>>121223553

That's what I'm talking about though, at least award normal dice based on how far you made it before you died. Got 4/8 bags? Here's 3 dice, good luck.

Just something so that a loss isn't a TOTAL waste of time, and you can still have a reasonable chance at getting at least blues or something if you can only make it halfway through a cata level.

>>121223484

Nightmare clan rats hit you for ~10-15% of your health. Cata clan rats will hit for 20-25% and stormvermin will kill you with 1.

You literally cannot allow yourself to get hit by anything in cata, and getting grabbed by a hookrat is pretty much instant death just because they'll drag you through a group of shitter rats that will kill you before your ES can even pull out his handgun.

Fortunately, aside from the damage increase, there's not much difference; rats might be a little tankier but if you can clear a level on Nightmare without getting downed or hit more than a few times, you can clear Cata.

>>121223910
Thats what EXP is for.

The problem with rewards for failure is that they will be abused especially if they are actually worth anything.

Rushing a bit through cata and failing for a couple dice would give you about the same chances for good stuff as beating a hard level.

>>121224291

Getting one white/green for a dozen failed runs qualifies as a "total waste of time".

>>121224468
how about having fun and learning from your mistakes

damn you fucks and your loot obsession

>play as soldier
>get fucking elf bow exotic
>trueflight
>knockback
>ammunition holder
>10% on hit for 50% increased attack speed

Wow that sounds pretty decent, how i do lads?

>>121224623

What's to learn from the director throwing 2 ratlings, 2 grabbers an ogre, 5 stormvermin and a swarm at you?

You need to be more pragmatic about this. Yeah, in an ideal world, people would play for fun and every level would get somewhat equal amounts of play time. In the real world, however, people are only going to play levels that they believe they have a reasonable chance to get something from.

>>121224945
so what if the director was altered so that it never threw too much at you, but the loot tables were also adjusted to give shittier loot at a rate equal to how much you used to get fucked by director RNG. Would you not be wasting any time then?

ass-fucked runs are an inevitable part of the game, it's annoying but anyone who seriously wants to quit because they feel like they "wasted time" on such a run is being a baby

>>121224945
Except there is no reason at all to care about loot once you have something that works and anything on nightmare really isn't that difficult and fine to grind.

People dont play on Cata for the loot, they play on it for the challenge.

And pretty much every level is about the same difficulty other than BP and a couple of the hard ones like White Rat or WW.

>>121224754
could be worse

I got one with reduced spread and increased zoom (the bow has no fucking spread or zoom)

>>121225205

Maybe the devs should just tell everyone to stop being such babies, then. That'll fix it

>>121224945
>>121225205
Not that same guy but I knew that having random loot was a double edged sword from the start. Yes, it keeps things interesting but too many people have stopped actually playing the game and just do their best effort to rush to that rewards screen.

I'm tired of people always wanting to cheese the last section of Horn of Magnus, it's fucking lame.

>>121225367
It's not news to me that I hate how large groups of people work

but I'm not sure I want shit to be adjusted, like making the hardest levels easier, just to make the game less boring to loot-whore. I'd rather keep some challenging levels even if I can only play them once in a while with a few people.

>>121225292

People play Cata for loot and hats, bro. Sorry to burst your bubble, but the matchmaking list doesn't look like it's full of people looking for a challenge.

So, guy who exploits LUA and made all difficulties have cataclysm loot tables... how?

I'd love to do that so I could just play the Gane normally but get loot like a hacking fuck

>>121223152
wait, so if I have a charged kill creature of any size proc, should I be spamming shield slam on the ogre?

>>121226631
Yes

>>121226631
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
your damage is meh either way so fucking go for it
maybe you'll get lucky

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Holy Shit. Playing with pugs a rat ogre wiped 3/4 of the team I rescued them and we went on to complete the mission. Is this what it feels like to be The Kruger?

>gutter runner leaps onto one person and knocks the other 2 living people off the edge of the map

smug little cunt. his knockback is ridiculous

>>121226932
i don't know what it is but these fucks are so much harder to deal with than l4d hunters

>>121227085
Prob the dodging and teleporting and moving faster in general.

>>121227174
I think it's mostly the fact that I can't reliably shove cancel them when they pounce me

yet

>>121226816
>rat ogre spawn
>some fuck aggro's patrol
>other specials
>they all down after lots of fighting
>i remain with nearly full health
>start cleaning up because luckily rat got downed
>casually go to their respawn points
>ANON YOUR SO AMAZING DAM GOOD HUSTLE DUDE

feels good playing with shitlords sometimes.

>>121227174
that and you can't reliably kill them after they pounce. unless you land a headshot with a rifle or some shit, chances are he will just vanish and pounce your shit again

>>121226816

Based blue 2h bro.

>>121227472

You should have left them there and soloed the map.

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>Gutter runners

>>121227649
>tfw blue 2h bro
Just fucking one more for all nightmare tho

>>121226816
That's impressive. Did you just psuh and power attack?
How did you avoid being surrunded?

t. lvl 15

>>121227503
>not that big a fan of dorf
>discover the joy of 5 stamina push-locking gutter runners
dorf for life

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>>121227781
They ain't shit.

>nearly level 35
>all missions finished on hard, 40% of them finished on nightmare
>still no exotics

Do I have to start running stuff on cata for a chance at upgrading my shit?

WIZARD'S COCK

>>121228387
>got my first exotic at level 7 or so
Just gotta get lucky.

>>121228387
I'm level 52, I play almost exclusively on nightmare, and have been since ~20
I've rolled one 6, which got me an orange, the only one i've got so far.
RNG is fucked.

>>121228387
I didn't roll a 7 until level 60 something. pretty kek they made that an achievement

>can't finish wells on hard
>play it on normal
>roll my first natural 7
>only get a blue.

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>kruber will never yell at you
why live anons?

>>121229009
Repeater handgun any good or is it as bad as WH's?

Furthermore, why is it so FUCKING DIFFICULT to get an exotic handgun?

>>121229152
Why are Gutter Runner and Packmasters so fucking cute?

>>121229238
Because you're an autistic shitter

>>121229152
Soldier repeater is viable because it has armor pen. WH one isn't because it doesn't

Is there actually a benefit to playing Nightmare over Hard? There's a fairly large difficulty spike, but the only addition I've seen to the loot table is a piece of fucking headgear, which is completely useless and not at all what I want. It's still 2 oranges, a bunch of blues and greens.

>literally no one on nightmare in my mm area
welp time to carry some shitters i guess

>>121225398
>>121225454
I've always felt like there should be an option to lock loot drops to your class in exchange for less rare loot. Or maybe being able to pick any one loot drop less than or equal to your roll

>>121229428
better loot. less shitters in queue

>>121229428
It's not that big of a jump in difficulty, just don't shoot allies.

>>121228131
Power attacks up the ass well it pounded on the downed BW, plus I have the duplicate bomb trinket.

>>121229573
I've seen neither, unfortunately. The loot is worse, actually, because that fucking red headgear piece keeps taking up an exotic slot.

>>121229428

The primary benefit is keeping the shitters who can't clear Hard out of your lobby. Any random level 1 elf can join your Hard lobby, but with Nightmare you're guaranteed to get someone who has at the very least cleared the level once before.

>>121229670
You can no longer bomb with impunity, which I find really annoying. You're also punished a bit more for getting hit, which might not seem like much, but it stacks up with a long run.

None of that would matter if the queue wasn't full of shitters who don't know what the term sword and board means, and run wildly around during hordes.

grudge raker any good? it sounds like a great horde clearer

>>121229848
I've been pubbing all night on nightmare, had very little unsuccessful runs.

I just tried Well Watcher on nightmare a few times. What the fuck is up with the special spawns? I don't think I saw a single stormvermin but globadiers and gunners were spawning at almost a constant rate.

>>121229848
The bombs are really annoying in that the friendly fire radius seems to be much larger than that of the bomb's effect on the rats. So when you throw the bomb at an ogre 50 yards away, you and the whole team somehow get lit on fire.

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>>121228956
Well ain't that some shit. I always try to shoot the bastards out of the air when I see them coming for me and it never knocks them down.

>>121230134
Yeah, the radius is very difficult to tell, and they're generally useless when the first thing everyone does upon a horde spawning is run straight into it. Of course, that doesn't stop anyone else from using them...

>>121229976
Good for you. I've been getting shitters every time I queue for nightmare. A stray bomb here, not watching their backs or teammates, rushing ahead, not changing focus to rescuing a teammate under duress from a special... it all stacks up.

>>121229942
I would also like to see this answered. My mate tells me that drakefires are great, but they're so inaccurate past medium range.

>>121229428
The placement on the table matters a lot.
Oranges on a 5-6 are way more likely than on a 6-7

>>121230086
The specials seemed fine to me when I was trying and there were stormvermin in most waves.

The problem was no healing supplies.
>>121229942
They never seemed all that great when I tried mine out.
>>121230430
I would think the grudge raker is much worse than drakefires for horde clearing.

Its also pretty inaccurate and doesn't seem to do much damage.

>>121230430
>drakefires are so inaccurate past medium range
>hey how is the grudge raker?
lel

yes clearing horde is its specialty but it's still shit

>>121230598
I wish this was so, unfortunately all I've been seeing is 1 red on 7 and 1 orange on 6. I have once seen 3 oranges, but it seems very unlikely.

>>121230686
I've never used either, so I wouldn't have a clue. Why is it shit? Lack of penetration?

>>121229942
>>121230430
Unless you have 4 shots per clip, 40% spread reduction, and Master Crafted all at the same time then don't even bother.

>>121230831
it's similar to WH repeater in that another option (drakefire or brace) is so much better largely due to non-stat stuff

like who gives a fuck if your repeater shoots a bunch of shots when you can stand there and fire braces forever at higher damage

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>>121230182

I sure hope you aren't trying to do it with the pistol. I don't even know why the rapier has this thing; I mean yeah it's cool but jesus christ it's useless. It'd be nice if it at least had an accurate crosshairs. Just for desperate hail mary headshots on packmasters or what?

>>121230430
drakefires are inaccurate, but because they don't use ammo you can usually hit whatever you're trying to hit in a few shots

drakefire or a rifle/xbow with master crafted are the best options

>>121230946
>get orange rapier
>the pistol doesn't even one shot clan rats on hard like orange pistols do
What's even the fucking point then?

>>121184784
Uou know, I'd like to see a couple missions where we encounter other resistance fighters from other safe houses or have an escort mission of moving a a wagon of civilians with a few npc guards and if you fail the mission you get treated to a cinematic of peasant women and babies getting eaten.

Maybe the leader of the other safe house is a Bretonnian knight and is a total jerk, but he's fighting the good fight and rescuing people.

Maye have a tower defence mission where we help defend a guard tower with atate troops and toens people and we have to prevent enemy cart ( a Skaven Hell Pit Aboniation) from making it to the tower.

>>121231254
For those sick slashing headshots mang, easy shredding of hordes.

>>121231254

Flavor, I guess? You could say they're good for having a way to damage armored enemies but I find that just thrusting with the rapier is way better for that at close range, and at long range you might as well pull out your brace and get ready to fire off ~10 shots because half of them will miss unless you're sitting stock still and crouching.

>>121230946
>>121231254
hardest thing for me is finding a good key to bind it to. shooting shit with the thumb button feels so wrong

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>>121231601

>treated to a cinematic of a peasant women and babies getting eaten

Anyone for Cata Well Watch? I have a vague idea for a strategy for it.

>>121231949
Does it involve 3 2 handers?
because thats how we did it

>>121231254
go for headshots.

or interrupt charging skaven so you can slash with your blades.

>>121232109
>wall of 2 handed death cleaving the waves rat waves apart

Fucking awesome, glad to know shit like that is viable on cata.

>>121231924
Skaven aren't exactly Geneva or Hague Convention abiding dudes.

>>121232109
Eh, mostly just spitting up in two parties to mess with the rat spawns.

>>121230941
Braces are ammo inefficient though

>>121231924
In fact, one of the origin stories about regular rats being mutated by warpstone and growing bigger and atanding upright, they talk about how they initially avoided confrontations with humans but snuck in homes at night to carry off babies and small children to eat because they were weaker.

>>121232340
yes, but if used properly it's rarely significant

>>121232213
This is our strategy for white rat too
It's not working very well so far

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You must give all the characters (except BW) unique abilities or features
What do you give them

>>121232636

Dwarf: taunting the elf and it lowers her health

Wh: taunting the elf and it lowers her health

(Kruber doesn't because he is nice)

Elf: exlodes violently and dies when she is taunted enough, can be used as a weapon

>>121232636
Soldier gives morale small damage, ms and attack speed buff based on health %
dorf has increased stamina and slightly more health at the cost of a small ms penalty
wh gains a stacking fervor buff based on # of specials killed and or consecutive attacks
elf... does something