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/vtg/ Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide General

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Poison Wind Globadier edition.

>Official Site:
http://www.vermintide.com/

>Wiki:
http://vermintide.gamepedia.com/Vermintide_Wiki

>Tome/Grimoire Locations and Other Info:
http://www.vermintidedb.com/

>The Game:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/235540/

>The Steam Group:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/whvtg

>Lore Stuff, Books, and Collector's Edition things:
https://mega.nz/#F!w0UERTga!d9uXX9ZnHATnuBGAFk38rg

>Previous Thread:
>>121184784
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WARMS MY COCKLES
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What are the most desirable traits on a weapon?
General>Regrowth, extra ammo
Shields>Push, stamina(only 1 extra point..?)
Swords>
2h>
Staff>
Bow>Ammo, reload,


Things like that. Can we have something like this in the op? y
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>tfw never going to have a handgun better than green

just fat my shark up senpai
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I will purge all degenerates on this board before the night is through
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ded general
ded game
ded ip
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>>121308617
I wouldn't say regrowth in general.
It's good for fast weapons since your CC and killing power relies on many fast hits. Same applies to normal attack chance to kill instantly.

For slower weapons I'd rather take bloodlust.
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>>121309425
I doubt that, you can't even tell who's who until the posts about skaven rape or elf cum guzzling start
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>>121308617
Also, push for shields isn't as good as for everything else since their pushes already stagger stormvermin.

I'd still say stamina, ammo, and push are the general best traits and the rest builds around those. Although, on the other hand, for a handgun or an xbow I'd rather take more killing traits than ammo for smoother sniping since you won't snipe 24 specials before ammo anyway. Longbows still benefit from ammo since the hip fire is effective at close range.
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>Witch Hunter dies
>Elf says something along the lines of "He's with Sigmar now... if he were anything more than a tale"

What
I'm confused; I don't know shit about Warhammer but I was under the assumption that the gods manifested themselves, to the point where their existence was not questionable.
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>>121308617

Brace: Ammo, Spread reduction, Chance for attack speed increase
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>>121309984
Then I'll kill everyone
>>121310241
The average person in universe doesn't know this.
There are still people during the happenings of Vermintide that think Skaven are not real.
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I managed to break the ai by spawning way too many rats. I actually crashed my game but it was funny to watch. They started to spin around. If i can break it again, i want to try and record it.
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>get that giant crash dialogue
>was swinging at the time, click back into game
>continues normally, but can only hear hit sounds
>beat the map and get my loot
>close the dialogue
>game crashes

Well.
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Just bought the game, would anyone like to play?

http://steamcommunity.com/id/ganoniroth/
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>>121310348
Skaven AREN'T real.
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>>121310241
Sigmar was less a god, and more a really badass human dude who founded the empire.
He disappeared more then 2000 years ago under mysterious circumstances, so a cult formed that worships him as a god.
The elf is being skeptical about Sigmar being anything more than a guy who founded an empire and then disappeared.
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The beam staff seems like shit. The primary attack has an insane heat cost, poor damage and nonexistent range. The beam also does subpar damage, it doesn't even kill normal rats instantly like the small primary fireballs would. And this was on babbymode (hard).

Why is this considered good again?
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>>121311704
but he IS a god
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>>121312506
>rat ogre spawns
>hold right click
>Profit
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>>121312506
The shotgun blast doesn't do FF.
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>>121312593
Think of it from an elf's perspective
>story of man who founded empire
>does a bunch of heroic shit
>ascends to literally godhood
>kek a lowly human couldn't do anything of the caliber of founding an empire let alone becoming a god
>otherwise all of us would have been gods by now if some lowly savage did it
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>>121312593
You gotta see this from the POV of some random scrub, gods don't just manifest for literally anyone.
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>doing HoM, cata
>first attempt is a bit shaky, but we manage
>3t2g
>final encounter goes okay, floor opens up
>I get blocked from going into the hole by skaven emerging from the ground, teammates get to the elevator okay
>they can't activate it
>I go down
>meanwhile, the elevator is swarmed by stormvermin and everyone else dies
>group sticks around for round 2, thank fuck
>we blitz through it all agains, 3t2g, barely any real damage taken
>reach the horn again
>my connection drops
>I was the host
>those people probably hate me now

fucking countryside internet
I want to die
please let me die
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>>121312506
The primary is a knockdown on rats. The secondary can slowly stunlock or you can pull the trigger while in the beam for a burst nuke.
It's considered good because it is unequivocally the best BW item in the game.
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>>121310241

Races tend not to believe in the gods of other races, especially gods like Sigmar. Karl Franz achieves apotheosis and becomes Sigmar during the End Times, but any manifestation of phenomena were probably dismissed as the work of wizards or some form of magic.
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>>121313975
You convinced a pug group to do the HoM finale without exploits?
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>>121314018

How are you supposed to deal with hordes generally, do you use the sword or do you hold the beam
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>>121314213
I didn't know the exploit, the others never mentioned it.
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>>121312675

FF is a joke. it barely does any damage compared to enemy attacks.
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>>121314327
You shotgun till your overcharge is at about half done so your attack speed doesn't get fucked.
Then you switch to sword while you cool down.
Which is why earthing rune on charge attack is bess for wiz swords since those sword charge attacks have about a hammer's worth of knockback, meaning you'll rek hordes even while cooling.
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>>121314327

Also I have the split two projectiles thing for beam, does the beam literally split into two or is there no effect
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Got my first ever orange, I usually never play Witch Hunter but I might give him another shot.

How's this, /vtg/? I know the rapier generally seems to be preferred but this thing is about 3x as powerful as the best rapier I have at the moment.
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>>121310348
>>121311704
>>121314139

OK All of these make sense.
I really should pick up a book about this, the lore seems pretty interesting.
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>>121314781
The beam's for stuff like stormvermin and other specials since it stunlocks them.
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>>121314841

Axes only hit one target, so have fun trying to deal with hordes.
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>get orange handgun
>doesn't have master crafted
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>>121314948
You should stsrt from White Dwarf and gates of Azyr.
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>>121314139
Not actually... and fuck spelling.

The End Times thing said first that one of Sigmar's champions began to fight Archaon wit the Ghal Maraz. They were doing pretty good and then a Skaven scum killed the champion from behind and Archaon got upset.

Then he fought Karl Franz and rekt the shit out of him. He wa supposed to be the reincarnation of Sigmar and he didn't even held as long as the champion. Franz had the Ghal Maraz somehow.

Then some shit happens and Sigmar himself comes and starts fighting Archaon and that keeps going until the world is consumed by some bullshit vortex black hole stargay-tier magic.

Also it mentions that Ulric uses his very existence to save I can't remember who, I think Sigmar? And give him strenght so he fights on pair with Archaon but far too late to the party.
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>>121311101
Does that mean the End Times is actually just the dream of some autistic kid or a story we are playing as and not actually "canon" in the universe as an actual happening but as a book to read to your children?
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>>121314991

Is the orange staff worth it with the beam, or does it only apply to other staves that you shouldn't get oranges because there is no aoe or something
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>>121315557
There's a legitimate imperial conspiracy to keep the existence of Skaven hidden from the average joe as to not cause widespread panic.
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>>121315557
No we're in the canon universe because the canon universe is killed and sigmar's spirit somehow stays alive despite the chaos warp eating everything, and sigmar meets a space dragon who gives him the power to create a new 'universe' and 8 themed planets are born and sigmar rules over one while the elf gods pick another and chaos gets one and archaon gets one and somehow skaven have multidimensional rat holes now that can go anywhere they want even inside sigmar's h ouse
yes, really
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>>121315020

Is this why I keep hearing the only way to go with dwarf is hammer/shield instead of axe/shield?
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>nightmare hom
>rat ogre spawns on the elevator that takes you up to the horn
>this has now happened three games in a row
>ogre accompanied with either an ambush, a horde, or a combination of horde and random assortment of specials
>wipe every time because there's no space to maneuver in

Fuck this I'm done, Horn of Magnus: Vermintide was fun for a while but I can't handle this shit anymore. At some point I just stopped having fun when I managed to lose 10 games in a row due to either goody-two-shoe morons who refused to go along, just flat out bullshit spawns, glitches like hookrats pulling people through walls into unreachable areas, gutters knocking people out of bounds and so on.
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>>121308617
Chance for a free push is way better than extra stamina.

Every free push regens two stamina and you have a really high chance for it to proc.
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>>121315812

Pretty much.
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>>121315813

>do hom on hard
>the dwarf wants to exploit and the soldier joins in on the beam
>tells me to come
>say that exploits are not needed on babbymode
>stay near the horn
>the elf is torn
>finally decides to join me
>the horn is sounded
>fight hordes with the elf
>finally the dwarf and soldier join us
>mfw
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>>121315812
Axe/Shield for the dwarf is great. It's just that the WH axe is single target only, so it's horrible when you are dealing with vermin swarms most of the time.

Although the WH axe is fantastic for fucking up stormvermin and doing loads of damage to a rat ogre if you can safely melee it.
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>>121315557
Nope, it's AoS canpn.
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>>121315812
X/shield is more personal preference since all versions have their own strengths.

I personally prefer Axe/Shield because it deals with stormvermin better, and the charge attack will hit hordes anyways.
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>>121315927
Is that so?
I got a blue Axe/Shield today with that 30/40% chance for a free shield push and 10% chance to regen life. I thought it was kinda shit but I haven't actually used it.

I know hammer/shield is better for crowds but the axe just feels much more satisfying.
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Asking again, how do I start moving while the level intro plays? plz respond
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>>121316330
Tap your heels and gurgle rat semen
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>>121315806
this is the furries fault I swear
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>>121315163
Thanks for the suggestion m8, anything related to Dwarfs sounds like a fun start.
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>>121316038
Are you sure? I find that Axe, Sword and Mace can spam shield bash like a motherfucker at sanic speed and control a horde by yourself. However, Hammer cannot and you lose precious seconds charging your bash and sometimes it just comes out as a strike.
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>>121316521
It's journal with main fluff info abou setting.
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>>121316643
You're right, Hammer/Shield does feel slower than every other Weapon/Shield combo.
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>>121316330
Git. Gud. ; . ).
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>>121316410
Serious answer is most players dropped WHFB after they retconned the events of Storms of Chaos basically a series of tournaments where 'the players decide the outcome' based on the results. GW ended up retconning it because Chaos got fucking annihilated and gave us 8e + The End Times after years of begging for an update to the game and maybe even the story so players just stopped playing the game until GW unfucked it, however 'due to poor sales and reception of WHFB' they sacd the universe to make room for AoS because they can't coexist apparently.

Basically they though the loss of the WHFB fanbase was worth the potential new fanbase they could get with AoS and gave everyone who was waiting for 9e / the game to unfuck itself the big shitty finger.

It's funny because it sets a precedent for 40k, if they ever feel like judging with their wallets now they'll have to be worried that GW will nuke their setting too
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>>121316756
What a shame, just a small adjustment of position onto the ramp and he could've held off that entire group.
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>>121316756
>rest of the team just sits there shooting at rats while someone starts getting surrounded
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>>121316756
>Hard
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Which one my fellow BW aficionados?
Earthing rune seems bitching but the flaming sword is so pretty and it has guard(chance not to lose stam) and blow(push) and bloodlust(hp regen on kill).
Fire sword has earthing rune, pommel and berserker.
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>>121317112
I value headshot way more than burn and earthing rune is just too precious even if it's a low roll.
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>end of EB, after you destroy the pillar
>WH and BW run ahead
>elf and I caught on terrain and fall behind
>gotta constantly push rats off the elf while running, eventually gets caught by an assassin
>save the git and continue onward
>horde pincers us because of the two idiots miles ahead spawning rats in front of us
>elf gets downed again
>duo tells me to just leave him
>refuse to do so mainly because he had one of our tomes
>they call votekick on me

Elf was a cool guy and defended me luckily. Seriously though, when will people learn to fucking play as a team?
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>>121317515
11% chance to vent 4% overheath. Seems abysmal to me.
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>>121317528
The worst thing I've seen is when you've got two people that know eachother on a team and they decide to go out of their way to fuck over and shun the randoms and make the whole team fall apart.
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>>121317112
what mode did you get that helm in?
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>>121317819
it's actually a lot more effective than it seems
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>Hiding from Skaven patrol on nightmare
>Fucking ELF decides to snipe one
We had fuck tons of potions and die from a sack rat.
I was fucking livid.
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>>121318327
Guess you got die from the skaven patrol too!
I'm sorry.
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>>121317819
The guy'll have to switch to sword once he gets hot anyway. Better if there's a chance at less downtime on spells when facing a horde.

If it weren't earthing rune on charge strike then I'd agree.
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>>121318270
cata using the white rat explout

roilled and 8
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>>121318423
>The Elf players kills almost everyone with a bomb too
>The Wh with his last breath tosses a bomb back at her and kills her
>His last words, Don't let that elven witch outlive you
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>Wheat and Chaff

can this mission just fuck off already?
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>>121318624
I don't get why people hate this mission. It's 100% action from start to finish.
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>>121318472
give it to me
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>>121318947
This, it's like black powder but actually fun.

The only problem with it is pubs don't know how to hold off a swarm in an open environment and quickly kill stormvermin.
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>>121319253
that and it'll send a swarm, a gunner, 2 assassins, and a fucking ogre at you at the same goddamn time
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>>121308617
For staff, I'd definitely say a Rune of some sort (lower overheat generation), less health loss from overheating, regrowth. Sometimes, faster attack speed can be good, but otherwise, hail of doom is good.

Then again, I only use Beam staff nowadays, so maybe my choices aren't the best.
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>>121319575
I'm not a fan of the less health loss from venting rune since it's way better to just switch to sword in that situation anyway.
Even more so if you have an earthing rune in the sword.
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>left-clicking causes you to toss grimoires into the abyss

Fucking for what purpose
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>>121319957
Yeah, I wish it was a click and hold type deal like in the opening cutscene.
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>>121319957
I think it's great
It allows me to deny shitters their extra shitty loot, while saving the team the health loss if I race to the tomes first and get rid of them :^)
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>>121319957

So you can remove them as a factor if your group is full of shitters.

Seriously why do so many bad players think they can do 2g?
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>game runs pretty well, defaults to medium
>gas rat shows up
>throws bomb
>F-F-F-F-F-F-F-FRAAAMES DROPPED
>have to look the fuck away to keep frames at decent clip

what the fuck even is this optimization
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>>121319957
first time I picked up a grimoire and inspecting it and I ended up destroying it
my team wasn't happy with my curiosity
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>>121319957
>team tells me to grab this
>I've played for, like, an hour at most, what the fuck is a grimoire
>pick it up. lose a ton of health, panic
>oh god its a cursed book its going to kill me
>select it, mash my button options, end up throwing it away
>they're laughing over the mics, explain what a grim is, and get on with the run
Sometimes people are alright, I guess.
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>>121320839
>careful, dwari, I think it bites
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Is overcharged Drakk pistols better against ogres or single shot
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You know, the Skaven work pretty well as an antagonist that can't possibly inspire sympathy, but I do love their attempts at speaking.

>ALL WILL DIE-DIE!
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>>121321524
>MAN-THINGS
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>>121321524
>tfw no KILL KILL THE MAN-THINGS
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>>121321524
>I KILL MANY DWARF-THINGS
>NO RUN! WE KILL!
and the infamous
BRING RUIN-DEATH
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>>121316756
Im lvl 24 and I have yet to even see these fucking handcannon things for my dorf, they look fun. What level does the game take pitty on you and give you a white welfare pair of them?
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>>121321763
They are fucking game changing
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>>121321763
As someone who actually likes the loot system all-in-all, I really don't understand what they were doing with the level-up rewards. Doesn't seem to ease you into the different weapon options for each class over time like it should.
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Just had a game where BW got stuck on a fence and the soldier spawned in below the floor, all during combat with the rat ogre. The only other game I managed to actually clear today resulted in a roll of 0. I feel like biting my cock off.
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>>121321524
DIE SOLDIERMAN
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>>121321524
>>121321604
>>121321616
>>121321692
I know they want to colony drop the moon on us, but goddamn their speech is adorable.

>Piss on you I will!

Mostly.
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Is Hail of Doom any good? What the fuck does Luck do?

Also I'd like to ask which are the most useless stats and trinkets.
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>>121319214
blieve in urself
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>>121322336
>>121321692
>>121321524
You can barely even hear them talk at all.
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>>121322341

It's okay, nobody knows, and all the trinkets that share effects with party members, dupe items, and the one that increases revive speed.
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>>121322341
hail of doom isn't an ideal trait on anything but it's at least decent on everything
>luck
if anyone knows they haven't made it common knowledge, I've seen theories that it affects loot roll slots. Maybe it does something like affect chance of items being inside a chest you open. Maybe some really obscure shit like making the director go easier on you, who even knows.
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>>121322532
Gates of fulmination is superior anyway.
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>>121322557
found the kek
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>>121322583
>Share potion effect with the whole team useless.
>AoE heal trinket useless when it can turn gray hp into colored.
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>>121316960
GW just doesn't understand how great it was that their puffed up end times harbinger got his fuckin' ass handed to him. A setting where nightmare knights from hell invade the mortal realm to cover it in blood and death and get their shit kicked in by dudes with puffy pants is astounding, and they threw it away so that they can have sigmarines fight chaos space marines. Again.
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>>121322865
kek baka desu senpai
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>>121321763
I don't know. I got a pair of orange ones with good traits but I think the suck at everything that isn't glitching HoM. I'd much rather have a handgun and leave CC/trash clearing to the shields and the wizard.

For the record I am level 51 and haven't gotten them. Also near level 40 you begin to get greens instead of whites as you level up.
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>>121322953

My bad, thought he said useFUL
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Did they change regrowth/bloodlust healing you when you're bleeding out or am I just getting unlucky?
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>>121322532
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What determines whether you just drop dead instead of getting downed?
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>>121323021
That's weird. I mean to say "kek"; Al right lets see: c.uck.

Is this truly spam? How is your system so very advanced? Are you the Electric Eye in the sky, we feel your stare? Always there?
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>>121323258
you can get downed twice before dying, 3rd time kills you if you dont use a healing item
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>>121323349
Unless it's cata.
Then it's once.
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>>121323586
I believe Nightmare also gives you only one down before death.
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>>121323258
Same as L4D, 2 downs then a death if you don't heal in some way I believe
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>>121323312
Word filter senpai. I think it greatly improved post quality desu.
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>>121323312
That's because when you use that word without any knowledge as to its connotative or denotative meaning and spew it solely because it is a popular word to say and somewhat insult like, you make yourself seem like a fucking retard

This is one of the few word filters I am so very thankful for
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>Walk
>Randomly die
>Nothing hit me,no rats around
>This happened 3 goddamn times already
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>>121323258
Nightmare/Cataclysm you only get one down per heal, below that you get 2 downs. Your screen gets a gray tint to it when you're near death.
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>>121323698
git gud
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>>121322606
It mentions the "Gamester" which sounds like gambling.

Or maybe.. just maybe. "Gamester" stands for the whole game and it actually does some insane things.
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>>121323698
Probably a ratling gunner in the walls.

Someone draw the heroes panicking in some enclosed space shouting "it's in the walls".
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>tfw you finally get an orange for the class you play
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>>121322557
WE'LL STAB STAB
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>>121323908
>normal attack
>killing
im sorry.
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>>121323908
If you get a good roll on that regrowth it's a great weapon. Shields are also great for heroic killing blow.
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>>121323824
I like games with obscure mechanics, anyway. I sorely miss the DeS golden age.
>>121323983
At least he got perfect balance
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>>121323983
Except it literally says "hitting", autist.
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>>121323908
If the attack types on killing blow and regrowth were switched then that'd be pretty nice.
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>>121324070
Except I'm talking about two traits, not one retard.
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>>121324107
it'd arguably be perfect with that
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>playing because insomnia
>do random hard wiz tower hard and get stuck as elf
>laggy as fuck
>get put in near the start with high levels that kinda suck
>we dredge through the game to the finale
>all hunker down on rear ward
>near the end when we're swarmed by so many rats I hit 20 something FPS
>everyone but me dies within 15 seconds
>ward going down
>getting surrounded by a shit ton, start carving out of the mob and backdodging while cleaving
>dodge all the way to another ward when the rats are finally dead
>ward has a sliver of HP left
>pull out bow and snipe rest
>ward HP is literally empty on the bar
>finale ends and everyone revives
>get every single award

Holy fuck
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>>121319947
true true. earthing rune is great

BW is great
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>>121324745
>blocking the names
pitiful
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so 3 out of the 5 games I joined tonight I got vote kicked literally as soon as I joined. What the actual fuck? Is joining hards as a level 25 not allowed or something?
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>>121326339
Were you playing the elf?
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>>121326403
soldier/witch hunter every time.
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>level 20's in nightmare being terrible
jesus fuck stop
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>>121326594
This holy shit
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>6% chance to apply "deadly poison" on attack
Useful? Would this apply on every attack, even ranged? Bracers/Rapier WH might appreciate it.
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>>121326941
It's all attacks.

It's ok if you don't have anything better.

It might be really good for ogres
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>>121326339
Maybe people waiting for friends? Odd that theyd be searching though
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Can someone make a soundboard for lumberfoots and mayflies? Or tell me which file the audio is in so I can extract it?
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Does Multishot work on M2 for BW Staves?
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>>121321860
>>121321763
Those are my blue pair. Fucking amazing. No ammo worries, one-shots on normal and hard, dragonsbreath secondary attack. Got them my first night. What can I say?
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I seem to get hit more often as a bw, probably because switching between the staff and sword

What do
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>>121329402
Dash Backwards while swapping
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>play dorf, frontline with 2h hammer or 2h axe
>take 83 damage through the course of the match
>elf who did nothing but waste arrows on trash the whole match takes 800 some damage

I'M ANGRY

ANGRY ABOUT ELVES
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>>121326941
It's great for Beam staves, but if you have something ultimately more useful, go for it. I see it proc often though. Maybe consider it?
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When the dwarf says cockles does this literally mean genitals
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What the fuck do the Dwarf's nicknames mean?
I know about dawri and drengbarazi, I mean the specific ones that he gives all the other characters.
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>>121330635
>>119787932
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>>121330635
Zahrrin or Zarrhin or whatever for the BW
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>>121309296
>tfw I have an orange handgun
>My green on is master crafted, while my orange one isn't
>tfw still use my green.
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>>121330975
You don't play on Nightmare+ do you?
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>>121331082
Green works fine on nightmare and is the better option if it has master crafted.
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Does something happen damage wise when you use the beam and then left click?
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>had three pairs of Dragonfire pistols or whatever the dwarf cannons are called on the loot table
>nope you get green elf shit :^)
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What is each character's reason for being in the city and how did they encounter eachother and start working together?
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>>121333261

You can read them on the wiki. The only ones I know are WH ES and BW. WH had captured BW and was escorting her somewhere to be doused at the stake or something and had hired ES to help, and they happened to be in Ubersreik at the time of the attack.
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>>121333261
Check the hero pages on the official website, there's a backstory for each of them.

Short version is the elf followed a random grey wizard, the soldier is helping the witch hunter take the bright wizard to trial, and the dwarf is looking for a book that might help him find a lost dwarven hold.
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>>121333261
The Mage, Sergeant and Witch-Hunter all came into town together because the Witch-Hunter hired the Sergeant to help him hunt the witch, they captured it and were spending the night in the inn when the Skaven happened.
I don't know about the Dwarf or the Elf, although I'm interested as to why the Elf is there because you're about as likely to see Wood Elves outside Athel Loren as you're to see a Space Marine in the Old World.
A loading screen told me the Dwarf is looking for something. My question is though, why is Okri so awesome and why aren't we playing as him instead?
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>>121333519
>why is Okri so awesome and why aren't we playing as him instead
He's probably a slayer and dead.
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Has anyone else had the problem of constant crashes in the chapter III mission where you go into the Skaven Tunnels?
>>121333662
I wish we got DLC or a content patch already
I want new items, item skins and playable characters
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>>121333519
The elf keeps alluding to visions she had so she probably just followed her dreams.
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>>121333848
Game's been out like a week man, how would they have a content patch/DLC ready so soon unless it was really small
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>Doing WR Cata runs for loot
>Roll Orange Trinket
>Get something called Star of Sisterhood

It's effect is "When worn you get a shared health pool with all other wearers of this trinket".

I don't know, if I had a tight group then this trinket would probably be bad ass, but I can't help but think if I wore it with other pubs (who actually had the thing) then I'd probably just constantly die without reason because some shitter won't stop taking damage.
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>>121335250
>Game's been out like a week man
And already majority of players.
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>>121333848
If you haven't tried it already, go into the _CommonRedist folder of your Vermintide folder and run the DXSetup, Netframework and VCRedist packages.

I had a lot of crashing issues and I did this and haven't crashed after several hours of playing the game now on all the maps that consistently had that issue.
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>>121316960
>>121322978
Honestly, this shit makes me want to cry.
I always wanted to get into WHFB since playing WAR.
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>>121335804
Get a group and play WHFPRG
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>>121335573
Imma guess you meant to say that the majority of players stopped playing.

Yeah, game's like a more difficult L4D and most people suck at it as you can tell from jumping into a pub game, so alot of shitters probably dropped it.

Doesn't mean a major content patch/DLC should be dropping so soon after release
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>>121335557
Best part is if you get downed you both need to separately heal to stop bleeding out.
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>>121335916
What if you had a whole team of HP share trinkets, and AOE heal trinkets.
EFFICIENCY
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Which hammer-shield would be better, one with Killing Blow Normal or Bloodlust?
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>>121335916

That's really stupid. If both of them are downed, and you revive one, does the other get up?
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>>121335848
>Yeah, game's like a more difficult L4D
Bad optimization, loot system, bugs and exploits =|= difficult.
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>>121335827
Not him but do you know a good place to get some models for cheaper than what GW rips you off for? Kinda wanting to get some again because I love the building/painting and so I could do some WHFB with friends, but they're so fucking expensive it's not worth it at all
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>>121330635

Azungi: Tough/Reliable(lit.Metal) Human
Grimgi: Harsh/Unyielding Human
Wutelgi: Wood(From an old oak tree, the only wood a dwarf would use)Elf
Zharrinn: Fire Queen(rinn=King's Consort)
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>>121336210
Nah I don't play the wargame myself, and I'm not sure if any of the chinaman resellers are still around since AOS happened.

You could try asking the WHFB general on /tg/
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>>121336310
>You could try asking the WHFB general on /tg/
Doesn't exist anymore.
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>>121336892
Oh huh you're right.

Weird, I was in one just a week or two ago.
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>>121336967
It was banned by mods.
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>>121337092
Aight.
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>>121337092
Wait why
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>>121337092
What the actual fuck.
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>9 matches in a row of getting nothing I wanted whatsoever
>several fusions in a row of not getting what I wanted
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>>121333440

It's worth mentioning that Sienna was wanted for plain old vanilla murder, not Chaos sorcery, otherwise Saltzpyre would have just executed her on the spot.
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>>121337262

It's the faggot who lies randomly and thinks it's funny.
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>>121337502

No, that's me. I was actually just trying to think up a good lie for them asking why.
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>>121337262

/tg/ mods won't be happy until they kill that board dead. It used to be that you didn't even need the other boards anymore. Around 2011(?) then-new janitors "sanitized" it to make it SFW, and also went about removing everything they deemed "not /tg/ related" starting with broadly nerdy stuff like Star Trek general, then /tg/-related vidya, and so on. Now there's nothing allowed but 40k general, D&D general, and a hundred goddamn quest threads.
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>>121336310
>>121336892
Most everyone has migrated to KoW, you can ask them. There was a recaster in a mordeheim thread earlier today, could try asking there too
>>>/tg/43459459
/r/yoyhammer is a subreddit dedicated to reviewing recasters from chinaland
>>121337761
It's gotten a lot better again since the nazimod days. It's still not great because like you said, underage quest threads, 40k gen and d&d gen, but it's not nearly as bad as it was like a year ago.
Outside of /pol/ and /v/ leaking heavily into it
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I play AoS and have a stormcast eternal army, stay mad.
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>>121338071
I hope you enjoy it.
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>>121338071
Have fun anon. I hope the game you like doesn't get nuked too because you were waiting for GW to unfuck the rules.
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>>121336068
no.
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>>121337258
>>121337262
>>121337348
Too many shitposting reports from /tg/-anon, and since WHFB is not wargame anymore mods bsnned it.
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>>121339006
Real answer being we just let the thread die
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A horde of twinkboy elves capturing and gangraping female clanrats over and over.
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>>121339279
>female
>clanrats
Good try tho
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>nightmare enemy below
>with a really good group led by this witch hunter who knows all his shit
>we're at third tome with 2 grims
>3/4ths of the way done
>my game locks up
>get a shitty error message, don't close it or hit OK
>game unlocks after a minute
>i, the dwarf, simply ragdoll on the tome spawn and die
>try to explain what happened
>solly and saltzy go to retrieve my shit and tome
>bw is off alone, she gets pounced
>ambush
>we wipe
>bw leaves
>sound is bugged for the rest of the level
>bugged into the inn
>bugged into the next 2 maps we do


what the FUCK whY does it do this? almost every time i'm on enemy below this weird sound shit happens. i knew it had crashing issues but i get a dialog window of errors and if i hit OK or close it, my game closes. if i let it sit, then my game still works but is shitty like that
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>>121338683

What the fuck is the point of it then?
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>>121339345
It's possible there's tons of sterile females that just get shoved into the ranks with the males
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>>121338257
>>121338384
Shit you guys are no fun. Tbh it's really fun and I feel bad for the dudes who lost support for their game.
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>>121339516
Not with the clanrats
>>121339656
I was being genuine, I'm always glad when people get into wargames. God knows the hobby needs as much blood as it can get these days
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You guys ever notice how co-op games draw in the bottom of the barrel? The kind of people who have absolutely zero situational awareness and can't lead their shots with any degree of proficiency? I really wonder if half of them even know how to do charged attacks.
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>successfully completed Well Watcher on nightmare for the first time
>tfw it doesn't even really count because we only succeeded to due an elf player clearly using CE/Trainer for infinite ammo/health potions/potions/bombs

Fuck, now I have to keep working at it to get a legitimate victory.
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>>121339803
>people are now using trainers in multiplayer

For what purpose?
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>>121339775
People in general are just fucking garbage at games.
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>>121339710

Wargames are like theater, it's obsolete and it should just fucking die already. GW could save itself if it started producing vidya.
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>>121337862
>/v/ leaking heavily into it

I hate this meme, /tg/ was at least 30% /v/ when it was first introduced from all the dawn of war threads, love can bloom, etc.

After the nazimod shit did /tg/ start getting this /co/mblr-esque ego where they think their circlejerk was better than everyone else. "/tg/ gets shit done" degenerated to a simple variation of "anon delivers" when the board did something cool to some weird creed people actually expected of themselves.
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>>121339852
To win? Honestly I'm surprised the other people were either totally unaware of it or quietly accepting of it.
>>
GAME

IVE NEVER COMPLETED A MATCH AS THE FUCKING ELF

NEVER NOT ONCE

STOP GIVING ME BOWS

JESUS FUCK
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>>121339905
The benefit of wargames right now is that there really isn't a lot of vidya like them yet and they fill a lot of empty spaces in games, especially when it comes to lore.
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>>121339775
People are always extremely unaware and bad at any multiplayer game.

You only notice it more in a co-op game because their failures often have an immediate effect on you.
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>>121340067
I wouldn't mind so much getting elf gear if it would give me anything other than hagbane bows.

Literally 8 of the motherfuckers, and only 1 longbow.
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>>121340118
I'm lucky to have a group of friends to play with I guess, but I wonder if I can't start blaming them for not realizing that there's always at least one clanrat behind you at any given time by now. The amount of time we've wiped because someone goes down to one of those assholes and it topples the whole house of cards is frustrating.
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>>121340246
never go elitist on your friends dude, to them you have fun when shit hits the fan.
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>>121340330
It's just starting to get annoying when I can do Nightmare with pubs but not with a coordinated team.
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>>121339656
>Tbh it's really fun
Yeah, throw 3+ to win is the best gameplay in wargames industry.
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>>121310241
Signar is more like Jesus...a bad ass warrior Jesus.


Sigmar was a real mortal hero who became worshiped.
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>>121340387

Doesn't matter. Don't start blaming them for everything unless you don't want them to be your friends anymore. At the end of the day it actually is just a video game
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>>121340404
That's the salt I was looking for, you can still play your dated shuffle board dude, no need to be mad.
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>>121321524
My favorite:

>what now, elf bitch?

That actually scared me.
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>>121321692
>dwarf meat tastes best!
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>>121336292
It's neat how this game went all out on the dwarf language but I'm suprised yhe Wood Elf dosen't say anything in elvish.
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Got trinket that reduce damage from poisonous clouds, is it worth wearing?
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>>121341516
Not unless it's blue or orange
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>>121341384
>Callach!
>Ennai noi

that's about it though. no clue what they mean either

is elvish supposed to sound like celtic/scottish/whatever?
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>Hard HoM because muh lewt
>Run's been going fine
>Going BW because I want a better staff than my shitty orange bolt staff
>Can't do shit to the ratstacks because shitty bolt hitboxes hitting pillars and shit
>Ten seconds before we can fuckoffski
>Dorf somehow falls off
>Ohshit.jpg
>Kruber jumps down to help,I throw imp. firebomb, at least 20 kills
>It doesn't do fucking shit to stem the tide
>Say in chat "Fuck it let's go"
>Elfshit and I jump down, there's a fucking carpet of rats
>Panic and hold M1, spraying fire everywhere
>nearly kill myself, swap to sword and hack my way to the lift
>Hit the lever as soon as I get there, Elfshit made it too
>Manage to finish the game against all odds
>Roll a seven
>The Dorf had the second grimoire
>Missed out on an orange

You know
I'm really fucking upset, but mistakes happen and according to the Dorf he had no idea how he fell off.
While I missed out on an orange it was actually a pretty fun and hectic moment in an otherwise boring farm
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>>121341583
Orange, 90% damage reduction, didn't know they have other color variations.
I don't have much of a choice anyway, 6% speed and 20% not to consume S or P potions.
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>>121341814
...seven is the best roll.
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>>121341981
Bro that shit is cash. Definitely useful in Nightmare and Cata.
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>>121342132
But it's useless if i don't plan getting hit by clobadiers.
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>>121342132
The dangerous part about Globadiers is really their ability to blind you and tank your framerate instead of the raw damage of the poison.
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>>121342351
Does anyone else have a really hard time headshotting Globadiers? The fucks never seem to stop moving and their head is difficult to get at when they're jumping around.
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>>121340642
Nice try GW. But you should try something more.
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>>121342447
Their hitbox is really fucky, the head part is very small and lots of parts of their model won't register damage at all.
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>>121331082
You clearly don't because even green handgun 1shots on cata you scrublord.
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>Playing Nightmare Horn with pub
>Manage to make it through despite the level 40 elf being a retard and constantly running ahead
>Use beam to win
>Do level again
>Make it through to horn
>Elf is carrying grimoire and tome and refuses to do beam again and says he is doing the bench and blowing the horn
>He said he didn't like that the wizard was the only one getting kills with the beam exploit and it was unfair if we wanted that grim we would have to join him
>We join him because grimoire and he keeps running ahead of me and the soldier past the bench because the wizard was dropping most of them before they reached us
>Elf gets pulled downstairs by a packmaster and dies
>We wipe trying to save the grimoire
>He blames us for being shitters
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>>121343751
>Elf
>caring about kills
Sounds 'bout right
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anyone have a strategy for Well Watch nightmare?
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>>121343885
Sacrifice the orange well and make a wall of two handed death to hold off the swarms.
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>>121342447
yeah their heads are small af, i can only hit them from the front
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>bw
>flaming sword has burn
>normal sword has headshot

huh, is burn that good? otherwise id go for the normal sword
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>>121343751
>>121343823
>Elf
>Trying to make themselves a target to be choked and dragged away for a ratman gangbang
Yep, that's an elf
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>>121344221
burn is great.
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>>121344221
I'd go so far as to say that swords on a BW are mainly for crowd control while your overcharge is cooling so I don't think you'd get much mileage out of headshot. Burn on the other hand seems like something that'd come in handy when slashing at groups of enemies.
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>Great hammer doesn't stop while plowing through tons of enemies
>Greataxe does
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>>121344594
>Great axe has 2 stamina
>cleaves less

DROPPED
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>>121343751

using exploits

shitter indeed
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>>121345175
Is that you elf? We would have won it behind the bench if not for your dumb kill hungry ass.
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>>121345259
I don't think the elf would be into anal vore, anon
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>>121343964
I am pleased my strat is spreading
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IT FINALLY HAPPENED BOYS!
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>>121345259

so no exploits and all breaks down eh?

been farming BP the last days huh?
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So have they actually said anything about upcoming updates?

Because at the moment it looks like fatshark pulled a fatshark and bailed with the money again.
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>>121346410
There will probably be a patch addressing stability/performance issues and some bugs/exploits before this week is over.

It seems like they are trying to make up a major patch that will address problems with the loot system and potentially introduce a bit of new content.
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>>121346160
You would be surprised how hard it is to win with an elf-shaped weight dragging your team down and acting aggressively stupid. But you are ad elf what would you know. Dragging your team down and then blaming them when they don't carry you. But no lets blame the lack of exploits for the loss when in reality if we had a fourth member who wasn't a suicidal idiot it would have been fine.
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>>121346650
I dunno, I half-blame CoD for spoiling kids and teaching them to be kill whores, instead of enjoy actual success they enjoy momentary satisfaction from getting a +1.
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>tfw the most successful and skilled pugs never have an elf

She really brings absolutely nothing of value to a team that another character doesn't do better.
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ITS HABBENIN
http://forums.fatsharkgames.com/discussion/2961/november-5-patch-1-0-2
Its fucking nothing
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>>121347470
>tweaked wc
fug
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I got a luckstone, what does it do
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mfw I just realised the Mage's staff would do team damage on nightmare mode. I've probably been burning my team mates the last few runs. What about the charged area attacks for the conflagration and fireball staffs?
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>>121348213
charge (conflag staff) and shotgun (beam staff) dont hurt teammates

everything else does

welcome to cqc hell

its actually pretty fun with shotgun
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>>121348571
>charge (conflag staff) and shotgun (beam staff) dont hurt teammates
Thank god for that! I kinda think the fireball shouldn't do team damage either. Oh well.
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>>121348621
would be way too op with hail trait tbeh
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Do you only get hats for your current character? I got 3 hats while playing WH and all of them ended up as WH hats. Not like I mind, since WH is my main, but I want a Kruber hat too.
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>>121347470
white rat fixed?
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>>121347641
nothing
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>>121316410
dear god
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>>121349086
Probably. Some retard posted it to reddit.
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Post your horde/ambush face and theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHGUdWjoS44
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>>121349812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PE22PP4lKw
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>>121316410
I want to see her piss in her own mouth
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>>121349812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_wa1ZgEyE0
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>>121344221
Well, my burning sword has burn and armor penetration on both regular snd charged attacks, so I can take out storm vermin in the hits without head shot.
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Never going to find a brace of pistols at this rate.

Last 5 loot rolls have rewarded me with repeater pistols and this was my first 7.
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>>121323312
Meet the newfag
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>>121351457
u wot m8
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>>121351457
no it doesn't bruh. you need to do charge attacks with it to set things on fire/pen armor

the only melee with armor pen on light attacks are axes
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I just want to cum inside a ratgirl, dumping load after load of thick seed into her well-used, hairy, hot pussy

Is that so much to ask?
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>>121323312
baka desu senpai kek
moot moots old word filters were way worse
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>mfw manlets talk shit about the greatest race from within their rat and shit filled caves
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>>121352215
yes. it is
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>>121352215
CoC?
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>>121352281
Nice try heretic.
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>>121352321
Amily's a mouse
also dedgame
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>>121341642
>is elvish supposed to sound like celtic/scottish/whatever?

Wood elves are most like celtic fairies, so probably.
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>>121337494
She's also innocent.
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>>121337494
Don't they execute witches just for that they are witches?
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>>121315416
>Archaon

The more i read of him the more convinced i am that it's some kid's edgy manifestation. I wouldn't be surprised if he said "nothing personell" and teleported behind every kill.
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>>121353289
Eventually the Chaos Gods gave the order, and he led the most ferocious and largest army of Chaos Warriors ever assembled against the Empire during the Storm of Chaos campaign for 6th Edition. Before he reached the location where he was to end the world, he faced Valten (a reincarnation of Sigmar himself), who had managed to kill Dorghar and smash Archaon's armor before being beaten near death. Then the Orc warlord Grimgor met smashed through his army single-handed, headbutted him in the junk, laughed at his sorry ass then went back to gather another army of greenskins.

The reason this bullshit happened? GW built the narrative around their battle reports, army by army. The problem is that Chaos kept losing. In fact, the good guys were winning so badly the only reason Archaon was pushing them back was due to plot. But GW had already pre-planned the story to become the grimderpofthe41stmilleniumwherethereisonlywar and make "End Times" be in the past tense. In the end, they resorted to having fans call-in the way they wanted the story to end hoping that Warhammer Fantasy fans would pick the faction with the pointiest stuff on their armor.

They didn't.

They chose a faction that had been beaten in the last match.

Fans chose Orcs over Chaos.

GW had no backup plan.

Grimgor's entire army had been beaten by Crom while Valten and Archaon fought. Grimgor got sick of rallying his forces, went "ZOG DIS, I WANNA PIECE UH DA ACTION!" and charged in to sucker punch Archaon as he was about to deliver the final blow to Sigmar and end the world, shout for the silent and awed assembled armies of the world to hear that "GRIMGOR IZ DA BEST!", then went back home to rally his army. This resulted in the snide nickname of "Light Drizzle of Chaos."

Later on, GW retconned almost the entirety of Storm of Chaos and instead made it an alternate continuity. In the current narrative, he's still amassing his army.
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>>121353773

Hilarious how much damage control they could pull, Grimgor is still the best no matter how much chaos asspull they try to do.
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>>121340067
maybe the game is trying to tell you to stop being a pussy and try playing as a blender for once
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>>121353773
Damn that story sounds so dank. Why did GW had to go and fuck it up.

Did he really get headbuttin the junk?
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>>121353773

So basically GW wanks off to Chaos and refuse to see them lose?

Must be a great way to make unbiased, fair story progression.
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>>121354374
He actually headbutt him. Not in the junk though, unfortunately
>>121354504
Yes
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>>121353773
whenever I see a long post like this I just assume it's erotic at this point
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>>121351514
I have 6 more pairs but cba to upload 2nd screenshot
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>>121354648
It's actually not, surprisingly
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>>121349812

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZWIWgqvKmw
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>>121353261
Sienna is a sanctioned, trained wizard, not a witch.
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>>121355314

She flunked wizard school and went rogue though, she's not corrupted as far as we know but I'n not sure if she's sanctioned. Then again only we know she dropped out.
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>>121355314
She dropped out iirc.

>Estalians
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I love getting into the rhythm of 2 hand charge attacking waves.
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>>121354648
>>121354789
The next one will be~
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>>121356483
hurry up faggot
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>>121356641
Rude, it wasn't even going to be gat
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Is there a list on how to unlock all the hidden achievements?
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>try dorf
>use 2h hammer and grudge raker with 2x clip size
>get twice as many kills than the second best teammate

Feels good man.
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>>121357297
>grude raker
>not handgun
I hate cunts who do that.
>>
just fuck my shit up
>>
>revive allies 40% faster

Best trinket in the game?
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>>121357375

I got that one as well, surprisingly handy when you aren't leading the group since people refuse to look behind them.
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>>121354727
How? Some kind of exploit, or? I wish I could get a shitton of drakefire pistols. Still impressive though
>>121357328
I think it's acceptable if you already have ES with handgun etc. on your team, although it's good to have two "snipers" just in case one of them fucks up/dies. Gas rats are fucking impossible to headshot so being able to do two bodyshots one straight after the other can be handy.
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>>121357479

Maybe for scrub groups who die.
>>
List the most useful classes when played well from most useful to least useful.
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>>121357745
Dorf Ranger/Empire Soldier
Bright Wizard
Witch Hunter
Elf Shitter
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Actually these aren't bad for me since I still suck at managing overheats.
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>>121358029
>Elf is bad
Spotted the casual
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>>121358272
>implying elf is good
found the sympathizer
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>>121358029
>Elf not S tier.

She's a fucking rat blender.
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>>121358331
why
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>>121358309
>>121358373
We're talking about gameplay, not lore, you fucking spastic. He literally said "least to most useful" and all you could do was meme.
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>>121358272
I agree that Elf can be good, unfortunately Elf also attracts the worst players in my opinion.
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>>121357745
dorf / soldier
witch hunter
power gap
bw / elf
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>>121358272
>>121358331
>SOME LUMBERFOOT'S BREW
>THIS MULCH BURNS MY THROAT
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>>121358491
>List the most useful classes when played well from most useful to least useful
>useful classes when played well
>played well
it must be hard, being that blind
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>>121357375
>>121357481

Packmasters do almost no damage at all even on Cata. They'd have to drag you for like 45 seconds in order to down you. Virtually ALL of the damage you take when grabbed is from other rats smacking your shit up.

Now, if it reduced damage taken from all sources while packmastered, it'd be one of the best trinkets in the game. Right now though, it's a wasted slot. Might as well put a luck trinket there.
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>>121358562
And Waywatcher is the best when played well, she attracts bad players however, so most people never see it.

At the highest level and with a good longbow, Waywatcher can tear through the bulky targets harder than anyone. Can't say that here though, the redditors with there "lol dorfs so manly xD fuck elfs!!!" meme can't differentiate gameplay and story.

Hagbane needs buffs though.
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>>121358757

9/10. You're DEFINITELY gonna get someone with that.
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>>121358694
>They'd have to drag you for like 45 seconds in order to down you

Y.yeah what kind of group wouldn't be able to free you for that long...
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>>121358854

The point is that trinket will mitigate less than 10 damage by the time you're dead from slave and clanrats hitting you. It's protecting you from something that does virtually no damage to you in the first place.
>>
FINALLY, SOMETHING GOOD.
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>>121358757
>And Waywatcher is the best when played well
don't you have some running ahead of the group to pad your stats on clanrats to do instead of posting here ?
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>>121359097
That's pretty bad actually.
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>>121359097
>get this
>realize i rarely take damage anyway and teammates chug most of the health
life is suffering
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>>121359228

No problem, all I have to do is play as Elf and I will finally be a team asset with this.
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>Conflag staff with reduced build up, reduced vent damage, attack speed on hit

Good, right?
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>>121360005
>Reduced Vent Damage and Reduced Build up
Great
>Attack speed on hit
Useless. If it was health on kill or hit it would be perfect.
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>>121360171

Bummer. I have a fireball staff with split shot, attack speed on kill and health on hit. Would that be better to use? I've literally never played BW; I kinda figured attack speed would be good, does it just not apply to staff or what?
>>
Part 1 of 2

Patch 1.0.2
Changelog:
Feature Changes
- Added Regiment Name Tags (based on Steam groups).
- Matchmaking now times out if host idles for too long.
- Tweaked enemy spawning on Wheat & Chaff.
- Tweaked chat text colours.
- Disabled tagging of dead enemies.
- Added a setting to disable aim assist while using a controller.
- Added player info during spectator cam


Bug Fixes
- Fixed an audio related crash.
- Fixed several level exploits.
- Fixed navmesh issues on many levels.
- Fixed minor collision and z-fighting issues on most levels.
- Fixed an issue causing bots to get stuck at drops.
- Fixed an issue causing Ratling Gunners to track players through walls causing bots to infinite take cover and not progress.
- Fixed a bug where players could jump out of moving elevators.
- Fixed a crash when packmaster grabbed a player who was healing.
- Fixed a crash related to the dialogue system.
- Fixed a crash related to the hud system.
- Fixed a bug where shield would flip during attack combo with hammer & shield.
- Fixed a bug with hammer & axe animation.
- Fixed a bug where the loading icon could get stuck during gameplay.
- Fixed a case of enemies “moonwalking”.
- Player outlines now properly apply to hats/weapons/attachments.
- Fixed several localization errors.
- Fixed several spelling & grammar mistakes.
- Fixed a collision error with certain rocks in Engines of War.
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>>121360531
Part 2 of 3?

Fixed certain trinket textures.
- Fixed a bug where certain effects would be permanently visible for clients who join during a game.
- Fixed a rotational issue with beam staff.
- Fixed callouts of visible enemies using player movement director rather than view direction for line of sight checks.
- Fixed Stormvermin sometimes being labeled as “Commander” in kill log.
- Fixed missing sound for beam staff beam explosions.
- Fixed VOIP not transmitting during loading screens if you have Push to Talk enabled but wasn’t pushing to talk.
- Reworked level end logic for wagons to avoid several cases where the level would not end when users had entered closed and opened and exited the wagons.


Bot AI Fixes:
- Solved a number of cases that could result in bots chasing after seemingly undetected special skaven.
- Solved a number of cases where bots would get stuck and not defend themselves
- Made bots heal themselves if they have the lowest hp, a heal item and there are heal items to spare.
- Disabled behaviour where bots choose to close to melee distance with packmasters and gutter runners until they’ve grabbed a player.
- Fixed an issue where bots would not find any cover points if pinned up against a wall by a ratling gunner.
- Bots are now a lot more cautious about friendly fire at higher difficulties.
- Fixed an issue that was causing bots to sometimes not engage special skaven disabling an ally.
- Fixed an issue that was causing bots to sometimes not rescue a disabled or knocked down player.
- Bots with lower health now get higher priority to healing items than other bots if close enough.
- Made bots prioritize attacking special skaven attacking the group before trying to revive (not rat ogres).
- Bots will disengage if possible if the players pass a one way drop to avoid getting left behind and pinned down by special skaven.
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>>121360635
Part 3 of 3 I think I got everything.

- Bots try to spread out among different covers as much as possible when under fire from ratling guns to avoid all getting pinned down when possible.
- Fixed situation where bots would hesitate whether to heal with medkits or not.
- Improved bot pathfinding over drops.

Performance Changes:
- Added option to set max amount of CPU cores in launcher. This is a fallback for users that experience issues with CPU overheating/overload. Do not change this value unless you are experiencing overheating/overload issues!
- Optimized movement collision detection for staggering enemies.
- Optimized movement collision detection for spawning skaven.
- Parallelized AI path finding.
- Optimized enemy movement on server.
- UI optimizations.
- Achievement optimizations.
- Matchmaking optimizations.
- Lua table function optimizations.
- Horde audio code optimizations.
- Level volume optimizations.
- Optimized world updates.
- Entity extension optimizations.
- Optimized explosion hit checks.
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look at those wankers
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>>121360741
We've just deployed a test version of Patch 1.0.2 to the public test branch.
To opt in to this test:
1. Right-click Vermintide in your Steam Library
2. Click Properties
3. Click Betas
4. Type the following password: publictest123
5. Press Check Code
6. Select the Public_Test branch from the drop-down menu above
7. Download and Play!
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AND IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JWTaaS7LdU
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>>121360531
>tweaked enemy spawning in Wheat and Chaff

Is that code for "we're not spawning a swarm, an ogre, a gunner, and a runner at the same fucking time anymore?"
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>>121361048
that's pretty shit tho
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>>121361662
think he was being sarcastic
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>>121360531
>Tweaked enemy spawning on Wheat & Chaff
>Two ogres may now spawn at the same time
>All clan rats have been replaced with stormvermin
>Specials now spawn constantly
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>>121361767
>>
How many elves would you kill for the chance to tonguepunch a Stormvermin's fartbox?
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>>121361987
All of them.

I'd kill them for free.
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>>121361048
>warp bullets
Are those the ones that can go through walls?

Because gunners definitely seem to have that ability
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Any good? I wish I could exchange them for a Brace of Pistols
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>get a 2 handed hammer
>charge attack is weaker than my 1 hander

Shoddy workmanship azungi.
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>>121362034
How many Stormvermin fartboxes would you tonguepunch for the chance to kill an elf?
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>>121362337
charge attack has momentum and engages 120 degrees in front of you
it's the only reason I use it over anything else, if only the overhead were capable of hitting more than one thing
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>>121362464
More probably I just take enough napalm.
>>
>>121360531
>- Fixed several level exploits.
Fingers crossed that white rat still works.
>>
I've pretty much only played Bright Wizard but I'm curious as to how I can best tell that I'm doing a good job. Like, in a post mission score sheet what should I be looking at?
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>>121363241
Damage dealt.
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>>121363241

Damage taken and damage dealt are probably the 2 most relevant stats to look at
>>
>>121363568
>>121363594
Is it pretty much a case of "if you're not at the top and bottom respectively you suck" or does BW just get outclassed damagewise in a lot of instances?
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>>121363241

If you have situational awareness and kill what's coming up behind your teammates, it doesn't matter what character you play as you are a competent player.
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>>121363707

If you're relatively close to the other players, you did fine. If you have like 200 more damage taken and 700 less damage dealt you're fucking up.

Try to land within 100 points of the leader in both categories and you can feel like you carried your fair share of the weight.
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>>121363707
it depends on your staff. With conflag you can rack nice damage killing stray rats while running but that's not really helping your team that much.

With beam you'll be missing that damage so it shouldn't bother you that much.
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>>121363773
I generally try to take care of sneaky trashmob flanks with my beam staff M1 and point out and beam specials if possible, but I just feel useless because there's always someone instagibbing shit as Dwarf or Knight.
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>>121363707
Generally as BW you should be doing most of the damage and probably most of the killing in addition to taking very little damage. If you are doing shit damage as a BW and taking a lot of damage you are doing something wrong.

On anything below nightmare you should be top of the kills and damage. Nightmare and above you are mainly a damage dealer with everyone else sweeping up the nearly dead rats with one hit. That doesn't mean you won't have the most kills thought. And again you shouldn't be taking damage.

Your role is to destroy swarms and soften hard targets. So long as you are doing those two things you won't have to worry about dragging the team down.
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>>121364015

BW shines when the horde comes. With your beam staff as well you can headshot specials easily too. BW wrecks if it's used properly but you seem to be on the right track.
>>
RATRAPE
>>
>>121364015
It's not your job to kill specials, you can stunlock them with your RMB but your job is to clear waves like crazy with your shotgun. No other class can match that ability.
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>>121364015
I would say switch to conflag staff. Your normal attack can kill anything that isn't a special or stormvermin in one hit on anything that isn't nightmare or cata, and it pierces two or three rats. So if you have a few lined up they all get taken out with one or two shots depending on the difficulty. Its also more effective than your secondary attack when you have them funneled through a doorway. Its less heat and fires off faster.
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>>121364554
With beam you can:
- just instantly pew pew few times and go back to fighting melee (with vent on hit weapon you'll be able to shotgun again after 2-3 strikes).

- It's just easier to get out of a sticky situation.

- Beam's RMB does CRAZY damage to Ogre with a strength potion (comparable to WH Brace of Pistols) and with a strength potion you can clear waves like crazy with your LMB (for those people that didn't know, spells are also affected by potions).

- RMB is also good for instantly stunlocking specials so your teammates with handguns can take care of them.

Conflag:

- takes loads of time to cast, can be interrupted.
Sure, LMBs can kill single rats but those aren't any issue for your team anyway. Your LMBs will be useless most of the time during waves because you'll most likely have your teammates in front of you.

- Conflag isn't as good as Beam for taking down the Ogre as well.

- Conflag's LMB isn't as good for specials because it's a projectile instead of hitscan beam that stunlocks your target.

tldr beam is better
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>>121357745
Tip top: BW, Shield Bros
Top hat: Witch Hunter
Topless: Elf
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>>121364902
Unf
>>
>>121359097
It's good but no better than the green or blue versions since its strength is in stabilising others in AoE after a bad time.
>>
>Running HoM 3t2g
>Had a shitty run with specials and chests but persevered
>Had an ogre spawn on the rooftop and everyone managed to not get knocked off
>Holding one of the grims
>Running towards the lift up to the tower, full health
>Character suddenly falls over
>THE WITCH HUNTER'S GONE
>Party wipes on the way up the tower

Thanks Fatshit
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>oh boy a trinket it's been a while since i got one what will it be
>2% chance to poison
>>
Hey guys I've been maining Witch Hunter lately, I was wondering what the best way to play him is.

Lately I've been going zwei for dealing with crowds, as my teams tend to only have one dwarf/soldier. I go crossbow if we need special killing, or pistols if I want to shoot stuff.
Any good metrics by which I should consider my performance?
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>>121364817
Is it beam that works best? I've been using the beam explosion on them. Is burn stackable?
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>>121364020
I'm often on top as far as kills go but there's always someone with a gun that puts up more damage in total.

I've only been playing pugs on Normal though so that might change?

I like Beam Staff since it lets me do crowd control and help handle ogres better than fireball or conflag imo.
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>>121365998
Beams explosion is the fastest way to kill a special if you've gotta kill it by yourself, but most of the time you're just supposed to tag & stunlock them with beam so your teammate with handguns can rek it. No need for you to overheat.
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>>121365998
Beam M2 does a lot of damage, armor pen, and stunlocks anything that isn't an ogre. I just wonder if attack speed affects M2 at all
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>>121365883
When I play Witch Hunter my damage dealt is low but I'm top kills, headshots, stormvermin, and usually lowest damage taken. I think decapitations don't count as full damage, please somebody chime in here.
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>>121366263
You're just doing it wrong.
>>
>hom with pubs
>at 2nd grimoire , healed only once and at full health
>get packmastered
>despite not even being in a wave i get killed and 2 people get downed trying to save me
>only elf has healing item
>oh she has the healing spread trinket so we can all reset our downs
>elf fucks of to the second grimoire and heals there out of range
>get hit in the back by a small rat and die
>they leave a retrievable tome behind
i fucking hate this game sometimes
>>
>>121366508
Topping most metrics means I'm not doing it wrong at all. Looking at your damage dealt I'm certainly doing something differently though.
What loadout are you running and what map was that?
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>>121367428

The only one of those stats that matter is damage taken. High kills and low damage just means you're scoring the last hits on a lot of shit, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it definitely isn't an accurate measurement of how useful you're being.
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>>121358029
I always top kills/dmg with elf
seems bretty gud
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>>121360531
>- Fixed an issue causing Ratling Gunners to track players through walls causing bots to infinite take cover and not progress.

Fucking thank God. Now I can play with bots instead of these god damn niggers that run off in every direction no matter what level or difficulty I play. Just gonna play hard with bots from now on.
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>>121367782
Hmm, I'm playing NM with a blue rapier with no damaging traits (push and scavenger). Hammer Bros are rocking exotics with berserking. Soldier uses repeater and Dwarf uses drakes. I'm on crossbow duty. Not sure this is enough to skew it that badly though.
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>>121347470
>Fixed several level exploits.

Does that mean people won't be able to cheese Horn of Magnus anymore?
>>
>>121362337
the purpose of 2h hammer charge attack is crowd control in hordes.
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>>121368435

>Soldier using repeater
>WH using crossbow

Get your shit together
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>>121368506
Nope, it's still working.
>>
If Skaven rose up and attacked your city today, who would be your dream team of heroes to stop them?
>>
>>121368797

Lobo, She-Ra, Lex Luthor and Zap Brannigan
>>
>>121368797
Francis, Bill, Louis, and Nick
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>>121368797
Bardin, Taskmaster, The Flash, and Wario.
>>
>>121368797
Guts. Just Guts.
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>>121368435
>wh
>xbow
I kick people like you in public games.
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if you get aa red hat rom loot is it always one for the hero that you were playing with?
>kuber and dwarf taken
>play witchhunter for a change
>roll 7/7 and get a red hat
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>>121369250
I have zero reason to believe any loot is not completely fucking random in this game
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>>121369250
not always, but theres a higher chance
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>>121368649
>>121369128
Not public games and they wanted to play with their new toys. It just stuck because I mainly play BW and am the most alert with spotting specials. I'm perfectly aware that brace is the best ranged option, shame mine is still white.
Don't know why you guys get so upset with stuff anyway.
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>>121368964
Lieutenant fire missile 1 and recommend me for another medal. Make it gaudy im going clubbing later
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>>121369250
fucking hate red helmets
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>>121369750
What the fuck are you running
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>>121369812
photoshopped that, sorry senpai
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>>121368797
One prosecutor, one liberator, one paladin and Vandus.
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>>121368219
man the ramparts nightmare/cata is perfectly doable with bots only as it is now, you just need 2h hammer and handgun for stormvermins/specials
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>first ever nightmare mode on HoM
> one grim and all 3 tomes
>friend has been feeling down because always gets shit loot
>I roll an orange crossbow with bloodlust
>he gets a fucking white mace
Mfw
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>>121370568
What.
I haven't ventured beyond Hard yet but I assumed Whites were completely out of the picture by then.
That's fucking horrible.
>>
>can't get past ogre rat on white rat with bots
>can't even reach ogre rat on white rat with players

Bots are better than lvl 30+ players, what a shitty community.
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>>121370713

I believe only Cata completely removes whites from the equation, giving you something like 2 greens, 2 blues and 4 oranges
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>>121370713
I thought it was virtually impossible but he managed to roll a 0 except for the grim

I thought he was about to commit sudoku when it happened
>>
ayyy lmao
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>>121371226
Nice collectors edition there bro :^)
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So I ran Cata TWR for about 10 hours straight and didnt get a single helm. I usually rolled something like a 2 but once, yes only once, I rolled a 5 for a legendary hammer with shit perks. Someone please kill me.
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How do i get white rat done on hard without cheating?
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>>121372036
Keep to the cave wall on the right and go fast
Get the door open and use bombs
There is a health stash under the stairs past the door
Get the potion of speed that is always in that room, use it at the top of the stairs and get the first barrel in before things can spawn
Do the rest of the barrels lmao, a good AoE wizard is important.
When the tank spawns go back to solid ground and kill it
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>>121371443
If u want to exploit for 10h why not just use cheat engine?
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I'm getting two pet rats soon. What should I name them?
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>>121372498
Im too stupid for it.
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>>121372601
I can help you. Have you even tried it? It's not as hard as you think.
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>>121372820
Thanks for the offer but I just keep playing casually and try to beat other maps then horn and smugglers run on nightmare/cata.
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>>121373406
>use exploits for 10h staight
>I-I just keep playing casually
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>>121355487
>>121355516
Nah, she just didn't stay on for grad wizard school. It's why she's only got 2 keys even though she's clearly a really good wizard.
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>>121373538
Yea it was stupid but I was listening to a audiobook while exploiting and just got carried away. kek.
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>>121372491

I did it bros, there is yet one casual who lives in this general.
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What's the likelihood of CE users getting caught based on fucked grim counts and weird data? Surely some of this is leaving a digital trail. Had some inf ammo fag ruin a run with cowadoody handgun spam. I want these guys gone.
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>>121374302
Banned? Very low.
Items removed? Decent chance
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>>121371429
Oh, CE. i get it
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I finally made it lads.
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Sexy.

I can't believe he just throws these on the ground after firing them
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So dont do The Enemy Below with bots. They still get stuck in the tunnel after you blow up the pillar.
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So how do I go about getting 7 grims in the cheat engine?
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>>121375329

Congrats. What are the traits?
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>>121376292
https://mega.nz/#F!EVhTiQCJ!gTnBE5GzuN990zDkmh-RQQ
download the latest table from here

and here are instructions even americans would understand
http://www.cheatengine.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=584925&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=240&sid=83f251dc16f0cfe988298eebd905a12b

shortcuts here
http://www.cheatengine.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5627129&sid=83f251dc16f0cfe988298eebd905a12b#5627129


best map to farm it is horn

change your speed to something like 5 then run and get first grimore, leave the cellar and start flying towards the tower then drop down to the carriage

you gotta change ur grim value ~15s after picking it (from 1 to 7)
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>>121376879

I usually change the grim value to 7 once I'm waiting outside the wagon.
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>>121376292
>>121376879
>cheating
>not getting your oranges legit
>not having one orange of almost every weapon in the game after putting in 100 hours into the game
>running the risk of getting banned
Just play for fun, the loot will come automatically.
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>>121377418
You think they'll ban people for abusing cheat engine in slo games to acquire gear?
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>>121377418
I'll play however I want you fucking cunt. Seriously, why does it bother people that someone is cheating or exploiting? If you're enjoying the game with your green items that's alright let me enjoy it as well.
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why isn't egg an item yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSfBgmZNK7g
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>>121376354

My blue ones were pretty worthless anyway. I'm just glad to have them
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>>121376292
oh and thanks m8 >>121376879
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>>121377418

>playing a game with the most ridiculous loot system
>for 100 hours to get oranges
>most of which are shit

At worst they might remove all the gear. I think they won't even bother.
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>>121377760

Rupture is nice to have when they are lined up. I only have that on one Dwarf shotgun for now.
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>>121377931
Rupture is fucking shit.
>ogre fight
>drink strength potion
>hit ogre
>teammate behind
>strength potion + brace of pistols do shitload of damage to your teammates
>instagib your teammates
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I swear to god, attacks sometimes go through block, even when I have shields.
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>>121378161
>Not aiming at ogre's face.

Not everyone is a shitter with parkinsons like you.
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>>121378161

Why are you shooting his kneecaps for?
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If I hit someone carrying a barrel will it ignite it?
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>>121373797
>geralt
>blue eyes
spoopy
>>
>almost lv50
>still no exotic trinkets

What the fuck
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>>121380669

and fatshark shills say cheating is bad when the game is this broken
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>>121380669
I'm level 71 and it only took me this much to finally get a Drakefire pistol for the Dwarf so I could test it out and see what its like.
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>>121380804
Seriously, I've grinded cata and only got all the legendary hats, 6 shitty exotics, and 22 levels.
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>>121380669
love me some oranges
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>>121375329
I imagine they'd have ropes on the grips tied to his belt/
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>>121377654
Not that guy but it really shouldn't surprise you when people call you a faggot for cheating.
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>>121380804
>needs the exotic trinket crutch to git gud

shitters need to leave
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>>121368797
Settra, Gotrek & Felix, and the bitch in the picture.

>>121369116
>not skelly knight
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>>121381802
It's not really cheating when something is broken by design.
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>>121383542
>Being this delusional
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>>121368797
Richter Kreugar
That's it.
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>>121359097
In my experience the healing you give is so minuscule it is only worth for getting people out of grey state.
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>>121383675

Spotted the elf and fatshark shill.
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>>121358560
Wht is a mulch? Google gives me gardening organic soil things.
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>>121368797
Probably one of the stronger, kill-happier superhero teams out there if we're taking from any universe we choose.

In Warhammer Fantasy, assuming they can be compelled to NOT just destroy the city as collateral I'm not sure, Settra, a Slaan, Neferata, and some sort of high end Elf.

Assuming you'd need actually Human-friendly people? Not sure to be honest.
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>>121369250
>>121369750
What's wrong with Reds? No stats and the Oranges do have stats?
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>>121353773
Wait. What in the actual fuck. What army reports? Online games or tabletop things?
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What was the name of that blind high elf swordsman?
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>>121384528
Naruto
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All they had to do was make it so every 10 levels the loot table knocks off a white from the bottom and replaces it with a blue/orange at the top. That way levels could also actually mean something beyond getting a shitty white/green for free every 4 hours.
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Anyone wanna party up and grind nightmare missions?

or we could do the white rat cata glitch, up to you
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>>121353773
Do all Orcs speak like your average illiterate "african" american?
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>>121368797
>all these people replying with overpowered teams
>not realizing that it's the comical ragtag group of misfits who always end up being the best

Arnold Schwarzenneger, Garfield the cat, Tom Brady, Micheal Jackson, Hideo Kojima, and Aidan Gillen.
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>>121383950
She's implying the health draught is the equivalent to tasting like shredded and grinded tree bark used as fertilizer. Because it's ass.
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>>121385174
if you want we can do cata glitch together, leave steam id
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Can any of you collectors edition fags tell me if you need to blow the horn to actually finish mag
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>>121385432

Where do you live where niggers say "zog"
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>>121368797
The Vault Dweller
The Chosen One
The Lone Wanderer
The Courier
Fallout feels continue to overwhelm me, please let Fallout 4 be excellent Bethesda you fucking piece of shit
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>>121384174
4 Ostermarkian Black Knights of Morr.

ezpz
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>>121386252
just let it go
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>join my first cata horn run
>it's laggy as fuck
>AI seems to be messed up in some way
>2 guys "rush" through everything not clearing up after themselves and not caring about me and the other guy
>one of them types "/remainign" in the chat
>sometimes giving instructions over voice chat
>they hardly ever take damage and whenever we get into a critical situation the AI stops working properly and just stands there doing nothing
did I just join a hacked game?
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>>121386313
They focus on the undead, and if this is during the End Times (I don't know from the question if they're asking about our real-life homes or what if we were Imperial Citizens in the End times) Morr has possibly been eaten by Nagash, or at least lost a lot of power when his Not-gyptian Counterpart got eaten by Nagash.
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So I just got me some blue drakefires. A-Are they supposed to be good? I feel like my blue handgun is better in most cases.
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>>121386252

Shit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up faster m8. There is virtually zero chance it's going to be anywhere close to "excellent".
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>>121386814
the handgun is GOAT, but drake is way better for clearing crowds. i'd say it depends who you're playing with.
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>>121316960
Then. In theory, GW own stupidity made people leave WHFB and now instead of fixing it, they destroyed the story.
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>>121386814

If you got a soldier with a handgun drakefires are better. both are essential tools for dwarf.
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>>121386814

Use this handy flowchart to determine if you should be using drakefires.

Step 1: Is there a soldier with handgun in your party?
>Yes
Use drakefires
>No
Kick him or tell him to put on handgun, return to step 1
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Are the Unded supposed to be evil? Settra and Nagash sound like such badasses and they rule over a bunch of zombies iirc..
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>>121386728
I don't know about the other stuff, but I have seen that happen with the AI before in what seemed to be a legit game (and just normal/hard HoM)

They would spawn as normal and just stand completely still, if you aggro them they were laggy as balls
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>>121364817
Ur fucking beam cant even one-shot regular clanrat on nightmare with RMB, it is shit m8.
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>>121387691
Not neccessarily evil. They are more recluse and just want to be left alone.
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>>121365042
More like fagshark
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>>121387691
Nagash and Settra control mostly skeletons and mummies since most non-preserved flesh got sandblasted.

Nagash is as evil as it gets, he sought to become a fifth Chaos God and pissed off the existing four enough to start the End Times.

Some of the Vampire Lords are actually decent people by Warhammer standards, most are evil or uncontrollable, they are also more likely to have fleshy undead and Quasi-undead like Ghouls (Who work on Wendigo rules as a punishment for cannibals)

Settra just wants (Wanted) to rule his kingdom forever.

>>121388141
Nagash is probably the most evil person in the setting, and he doesn't even have "He's working for mindfucking Chaos Gods" as an excuse. he's just really REALLY fucking evil.
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>>121385469
>>121385174
Did you two end up making a room? I'll join if you did.
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>>121388728
No he didnt respond and Im not in the Steam group, but if you still want to run twr catas, Im in.
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>>121388869
Just make a public game for cata rat and I'll join, will mention /vtg/
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>>121383860
>shill
>in a thread full of people who already own the game.

I knew every single person who uses that word is fucking retarded, but this is too much.
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>>121389091
its up
cant you somehow add a password for this shit?
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I just can't play with my friends anymore. They are fucking terrible! I am watching the waywatcher just get hit in the back constantly because the guy has no situational awareness, and the BW is even worse. Literally standing in corners, firing fireballs at enemies right in front of her, and getting hit repeatedly, headbutting stormvermin and ogres, and never blocking or power swinging the flame sword. White rat nightmare just isn't that hard but we keep getting rekt and I don't understand.
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>Tfw no hats in the loot table for dozens of white rat runs now

ARRR EN GEEEE
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>>121389421
Time to find new friends.
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>>121389421
I know that feel from League and CS:GO. I am high ranked in both games ladder but my friends are low tier shitters. Fucking sucks mang.
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>>121385437
>Aidan Gillen

Your a big rat.
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>>121389091
Im playing with someone now but I dont know if its you lol. Its a lvl 22 elf.
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>tfw rack of masterbrew vials
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If I spam cata white rat will they know?
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>horn nightmare
>at the square, no ogre yet haven't healed once 50% of my damage taken is getting shot in the back
>told party not to drink a potion when on red health but go down instead and then heal
>get hit by a wave
>everyone but me is on red health again after it
>elf fucking drinks the potion without going down
and that's the story of how i will never start a nightmare game ever again with over 1 person below level 40
>>
>you can still cheese black powder
nice game
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>>121392741
Explain how, in an easy to follow step by step format.
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>>121393018
ladder
>>
>HoM
>rooftops after 2nd grim
>we closely stick together
>assassin jumps on one of us
>other 3 get pushed off the roof and die
>defeat

In that moment I was fucking mad, but in hindsight it was hilarious.
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>>121393018
You sit on the ladder in the tower instead that tower.
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>>121393190
>>121393214
Same effect as before?
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>>121393018
1 guy sits on some roof in the very northwest and the rats will sit around him doing nothing while the rest is out collecting the barrels
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>>121392665
What would they do about it?
Nothing wrong with using the means within the game even if they're exploits.
>>
It's not like they are losing out on any paid content money if people are getting fast items via hacks/exploits. It also doesn't cause any damage to other players. I doubt they care all that much about it. I sure wouldn't.
>>
THESE ARE, THE END TIMES
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>>121395384
I guess you could say these are the warhammer: the end times - vermintide
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>>121393259
You can be fucked by runners/ratlings easier.
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Why didn't the gorillion Stormvermin rats that you see on Enemy Below just attack the city from the start?
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>>121396962
Stormvermin are supposed to be a last resort to send in vs an already weakened enemy that wasn't broken by waves of slave rat trash.
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>>121396962
Why send Stormvermin when you can send clanrats instead?
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>>121396962

Right?

I figure it's because the rats are cowards so they sent shitty clanrats and slaverats to test the waters so to speak.
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>>121396962
Because the game is called vermintide, not vermintsunami
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>>121314139
Teclis knows about the supposed "miracles" of the warrior priests being magic, so he could probably assume also that Sigmar is real to some degree.
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>>121396962
to the rats #ratlivesdon'tmatter
so the general strategy is
>send in a fucktillion slave rats to test city defenses
>did it succeed in capturing the area? great it worked
>if not send in a fuckbillion storm vermin to clean up the now severely weakened population
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>>121396962
skabbicus was an inside job
black powder can't melt wyrdstone
wake up ratple
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>Stone of pure luck
>100% luckier

I just got one of these, it's pretty much worthless, right?
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>>121402103
i heard it gives you +10% on weapon procs
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>>121402336
If it was like a +100% increase of chance (basically doubled) for good effects (weapon procs, finding loot dice, items in chests, etc.) it would be pretty sweet. Of course, they won't fucking say what it does, which either means it's worthless and they don't want people being angry, or more likely, it does something beneficial but easily abused, so they're being tight-lipped.
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>>121402992
i highly doubt that it affects items in chests because ammo can be seen clipping trough it before opening it
unless it affects level generation but that wouldn't make sense with joining/leaving in progress
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Getting hat duplicates feels really bad.
>>
SO

Markus Kruber says something about Kislev being overrun

First DLC/XPAC confirmed with new heros, new maps, new mobs?

Lets hypothesize the new enemies/heros
>>
I wish the rat ogre actually had dialogue.
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>>121404035
What would a roided up rat have to say anyway?

Smash smash man-things?
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>the beta patch starts you back with no items
>>
I'm 99% sure the loot isnt completely rng and generally is in favour of the class that you play. Try 10 games as 1 char, then switch, and after 10 games switch again and keep track of the loot options.

This is just empirical data, so I can't say absolutely for sure, but I'm level 104, so I did my fair share of runs, while switching my main character a few times.
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>>121403945
the ice of Kislev doesn't crack, dwari.
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>Attempting to do The White Rat on hard
>Empire Soldier and Dwarf join
>They keep getting downed as soon as level begins and can't even get through first door.

Why are people so ass at this game? Some people are level 40 something and they don't even shield bash or dodge. The level is difficult but how can some people consistenly fail so hard every time? I just want to do the level and not babysit these morons.
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>>121404174
>HATE NEWSPAPERS
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>>121321524
>defending well watch on nm pub
>last two hordes, doing decent
>after the ogre spawns a small pack of clan rats comes from behind
>as I'm getting slapped by the ogre I faintly hear it
>"GOTCHU NOW ELF BITCH"
>the elf gets surrounded and destroyed

I fucking love this game
>>
Is crashing just inevitably going to happen after a couple rounds if I'm fucking with CE or am I doing something wrong?
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>>121369812
cheat engine anon
>>
exploit on white rat, makes it like 2 minutes tops.
>>
I WISH YOU WERE A MALE
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>>121405049
>They threaten the elf with rape before actually committing it
Cool
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>>121404035
Rat ogres are completely mindless. They actually suffer from 'stupidity' in the tabletop game if the packmaster in charge of them dies.
>>
Fastest map to run on hardest?
I've been doing ramparts and BP for some time now and want to know if there's anything faster.
>>
Is it possible to turn off that intro cutscene? I cant believe I have to load that shit, hold a button to skip it, then load the fucking tavern just to select a game to load some more. Go fuck yourself Shitshark.
>>
>>121378314

I empathize mang, that shit happens to me all the time in this game.

I've gotten into a habit of just holding up a block and letting the stupid rat's animation go off so that their hit gets deflected, and then I shield bash.

They somehow get a hit off in the exact half second you go to shield bash them off you and it's fucking irritating.
>>
I really wish the dice rolls were a bit more lenient, as it is right now people who want to get rewards see no point in running maps with no Tomes/Grims and I'm pretty sure that is hurting the longevity of the game itself.
>>
>been trying for a greatsword for kruber for 20+ games
>nothing

also, which trinket is better: 20% chance to not consume a bomb on use, or 10% to not consume a drought/medpack

>>121410195
seriously im on a ssd and it takes like 15s to get into the inn
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>>121410346
The game reminds me a LOT of when Payday 2 first came out. Mods were a pain in the ass to get and people would just glitch through levels / spam the easiest levels for cash
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Is it actually worth to unlock the targeteer trait on them? Considering they are mostly used to clear out normal rats, I'm thinking, getting a lower spread for the RMB mode is counterproductive.
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I just got my first pair of orange pistols. I don't play WH and always avoid him even if the other available character is an Elf or a Mage.

Is skull cracker good? I believe bloodlust and scavenger are considered subpar, especially on brace.
>>
>>121410578
Skull Cracker is alright, Bloodlust is really good and Scavenger is garbage.
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>>121410573
dood those are pretty great

i wish mine had targeteer. get targeteer at least
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>>121389510
>he doens't use CE to give himself 7 grims(8 in total) for red hats. Cata.
>he doesn't use CE to give himself 6 grims(7 in total) for orange hats. Night.
>>
how do I into 2h hammer? It's incredibly slow but I want to git gud with it
>>
>>121412225
Spam charge attacks, they're actually not that slow if you're timing them right. Try and stay at max distance so rat fuckers don't wind up their melee and smack you.
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>>121412225
Make use of dodging back after every swing
>>
>arrows
Who in the Empire uses arrows anyways? I understand bolts.
>>
>>121412225

Charged attacks all day, once you get a feel for it you'll be strafing and turning and sending rat hordes flying like you're Sauron
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>>121413526

A Wood Elf archer with even the most poorly-made of bows is worth a dozen crossbow-armed Empire Soldiers, lumberfoot
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>>121413570
>>121412542
>>121412456
righto, thanks m8s
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how the fuck does an elf take the most damage (something like 900) and have the second least ranged kills
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>>121413729
Reading comprehension.
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>>121308124
>>121413839

More warhammer generals, coolio.
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backstab


we goooo

blades in the shadooooowss

Why are gutter runners so cute?
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>>121410497
Bombs feel scarce for the most part so I'd say that, sounds like a blessing when it procs during a Rat Ogre fight.
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>>121415678
yea but an extra medpack could be run saving
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>>121415128
#trainedintheorient
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>>121413526
Different provinces have huntsman / rangers / halfling archers. Reikland really has no reason to have any though.
Elf does say
>You call these arrows?
Kinda hilarious imagining her trying to use a bow with bolts
>>121414931
We just need one /whg/
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>>121410497

I run RAID0 on two Samsung 850s and it takes me about a minute to get into the Inn from launching the damn thing.
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revelation: hard is actually the hardest difficulty, because of bad people
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>>121416608
That isn't far fetched. I played a few games on Nightmare and didn't have nearly as much a problem as I did on Hard maps.
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>>121416608
One person can actually still carry a team on hard though, as long they don't get completely fucked by special spawns.
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>>121415781
True enough... and the chance -is- higher.
Tough call m8
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>>121416608
people just don't seem to understand that they should be doing everything they can to avoid damage

like how the fuck do you take upwards of 700 damage as elf or bright wizard? i play 2h hammer dwarf and the highest damage taken i've seen for myself is 200 something

people have 0 situational/spatial awareness. the retarded spawn system in this game materializing rats out of thin air in front of your face or right behind you doesn't help either
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>instantly breakdown every single repeating pistol and grudgeraker on acquisition
>so many fucking repeating pistols that these alone have fueled all of my upgrading so far
fuck off game
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>>121417205

Using headphones helps a ton. I have come to the conclusion that most are completely deaf or are using laptop speakers.
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>>121417205
What DO you do as Elf in order to avoid damage during swarms?
I had to play her for the first time today since Dwarf was already taken, and her melee options felt very lacking.
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>>121417307
>>121417205
The average video game doesn't require or even reward defensive play, and this game doesn't require it on normal/hard (or all the time on higher difficulties) so people don't learn to be defensive.
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>>121417450

I have played a lot of KF1 and now KF2, so being situationally aware I have learned the hard way to be being the key between wiping and not.
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>Defied by technology, elf?

>I never want to touch one again...

She sounds adorable when saying that.
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>>121417205
I'll admit that I am absolutely garbage at blocking usually.
It's why I avoid nightmare.
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>>121417426
the only really big benefit elf has in this regard is some very good horde-clearing melee options (especially dual sword), so i'm not sure why he mentioned elf specifically. Avoiding damage on any character is mostly not being shit with push and dodge - it's arguably relatively hard on elf because they're generally low stamina.
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>Well Watcher Nightmare

I swear it was easier than wheat on hard, the fuck
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>>121417426
I don't know, I have literally never played elf because only fags play elf

i have no problem avoiding damage as wiz/wh/kruber/dorf. Just dodge, block, and make sure you use a weapon that has alot of target capability (IE fire sword for bright, hammer/2handers for krub/dorf, greatsword for WH)

rapier WH is actually the easiest to avoid damage imo, because it feels like the dodge is longer and you have great range with the heavy

>>121417692
mentioned elf because all the elves i've ever seen use their bow 24/7 wasting arrows on every trash mob. yet these people still take triple the damage I do
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>>121417531
congratulations
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Wheat and Chaff can suck my balls. Is it just because there are no Stormvermin patrols that it needs to overcompensate with the near constant spawns?
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>>121417918
>why do shitters take damage
so you're just being dumb and meme-hating elf then, alright
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>>121417235
I have 7 ursulas and a lot various orange repeaters for soldier and wh.

I hope they add red rarity and I can destroy this or make the red version good and forge.
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Posted in group chat but no one seems to be paying attention. Anyone up to play? Just finished downloading the game
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>>121402992
What if the point of the trinket is just to make you feel luckier? You feel like loot die start spawning more often. Maybe it's because of the stone, but in reality it isn't because you're just getting lucky.
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Are there Skaven in 40K?
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Yo, I throw a 7 in CE for the grims but my team takes tomes or loot die and the game crashes, do I still get my fat loot?
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>>121419281
>The luck die is just a placebo
>It literally does nothing but make you feel luckier
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>>121419435

Your own dice total has to add to 7. If your team is carrying 3 tomes and picks up 2 loot dice, if you set the grims to be more than 2 you will roll errors. It must add to 7 on your screen.
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>>121419735
Alright, thankya m8y.
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>>121418061
>Is it just because there are no Stormvermin patrols that it needs to overcompensate with the near constant spawns?
uh... I'm pretty sure W&C has the highest rate of Stormvermin. Certainly ones that are harder to avoid than in some campaigns, too.
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>>121419851
I don't remember seeing or hearing any patrols, but it does spawn Stormvermin like nobody's business. I swear, you finish one swarm and another begins with a handful of those black furs.
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>>121419793

Forgot to add, if you are using the cheat table from CE forums, you can change the tomes to be 0, loot dies to be 0 and grims to be 7 at your end too. Everyone else will be unaffected.
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>live in san diego
>set search distance to near
>always see venezuela, peru, canada
>literally a France lobby on my screen right now
what the fuck
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>>121419435
>not modifying the tome/dice count to prevent crashes
>Not rigging the game to give you exactly what you want
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>>121419979
Ah yea, they might not be patrols. But there are certainly more in my experience than on any other map in general, and if they aren't avoidable patrols that makes it even worse.

Even if they are patrols, the nature of the map would make it relatively hard to avoid them
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my rolls have been so godawful I am considering cheating
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>>121314749
>sword
Get a load of this scrub not using the mace
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>>121420278
>>get all tomes and a grimoire
>>still get a white item
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>>121420278
Cheating only enables you guaranteed hats. It's a fast flow of exotics but there's so much RNG involved that they will almost all be complete shit anyway.
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>>121420596
i just want a kruber greatsword. literally 30+ games and nothing.
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How useless is killing blow & perfect balance on a zweihander? Is it possible to get a charged attack regrowth roll beyond 1-3%?
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>have a bunch of weapons you don't want
>have to craft them into a better version of the weapon you don't want
Who thought this was a good idea
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>>121420852
those are the ones you break down

it's still retarded
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>>121420012
Just figured this shiz out, thank you anon.

Just fell off the rooftops at high speed.
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So does anyone actually post here to get games going or is this general nothing but bitching about rolls?
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>>121322978
I thought it was hilarious that in the End Times one of the Chaos Warlords mentioned that as long as the men of the Empire had their flag and ale, they would never rout, so they attacked the flagbearers and breweries first
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>>121421247
people used to get games going in the chat but now chat has been dead ever since the bp patch
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Why didn't the Skaven attack Kislev?
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>>121421732
I think the under-empire is big, but I think there main base is too far from Kislev. I don't know though.
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>>121421732
Because it was going to be slaughtered by the hordes of Chaos. You'd just end up fighting two enemies at the same time.
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>>121421732
Manipulations and bargains with Chaos
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>>121419253
yeah
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>>121420127
Wait does modifying the dice after the dice screen still modify your roll?
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>>121421821
Hell pit is right up there.

>>121421732
Its probably because Kislev is actually very fortified+chaos armies are everywhere.
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>>121419471
How do you get exactly what you want? I personally want regrowth charged attack with the highest possible chance along with pommel and improved guard.

I've been rolling 6 and 7 in hope to get a good weapon instead of a helmet and so on but I can't get the right traits.
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>>121420795
yeah my highest is 10% on elf charged attacks adn it procs like a mofo


my lowest is 1.5% on kruber charged sigmarite sword and shield and it barely ever procs at all
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>rat ogre spawns on top of you when you're holed up
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https://steamdb.info/app/235540/dlc/
>Shows dlc
>They are all hats
>They already exist in the game's code
Wonder how much they will charge for something that already exists
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>>121422905
You can't get what you want. The loot system has four layers of RNG to get through before you can find something decent.
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>>121422905
Farm forever until RNG decides to bless you with the traits you want.
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>>121420795
I think it lowers the percent chance on 2h charge attacks because they basically hit the entire horde. That's a lot of proc chances. If that was 5% or higher, it'd be broken.
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>>121423460
shield also hits a lot of motherfuckers and it hits more times yet it barely procs when it isn't above 8%
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basically if you want loot there's no reason to do side missions, right?
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>>121424712
Considering how you can be fucked by RNG regardless of whether tomes/grims are added to the mix, no.

If you can do side missions very quickly then it's a decent way to get quick loot rolls, even if the odds are worse.
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im so fucking sick of rats spawning out of thin air right in front of your face and rats hitting you from about six feet away from where their weapon actually is

im also sick of pubbies with the self awareness of a hamster
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>>121424712
Just for loot? Not really.
However, some of the side missions are pretty fun
I like the clusterfuck that is Well Watcher, it's like playing a Tower Defense game.
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>>121425662
yeah I liked it too, but then there's stuff like Wheat and Chaff or Waterfront that I just don't really care for.
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How to Wizard Tower on hard? For whatever reason, the pubs I join get fucking annihilated by the trash rats when we hole up in a corner.
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>>121426073
Are you holding up on one ward?
If you are, it's a shit strat because you get swarmed by storm vermin in the end
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>>121426198
What do you advise then?
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>>121426291
In a pub? Stick in pairs.
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What other special units do the skaven have that would fit well into the mechanics of this game?
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>>121426198
I do that every time and it's easy as shit, especially if you have bombs and/or shield user
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>>121426490
I mean, it's a waste of time and pubs manage to fuck it up everytime in my experience. I just have an easier / quicker time with the buddy system
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>>121426569
It is slow, that much is true.
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>>121426634
In all seriousness it's probably just the randomness of pubs more than the strat
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>>121426453
Plague Censer Bearers. Fast and bearing a two handled flail, they hit hard and spread poison gas at the same time. No armour, so you just have to be quick about taking them down.

Warlock Engineer. Slow but has a variety of spells. Would probably work similar to the Ratling Gun in the sense that it would target one person in the party but it would do one massive hit instead of damage over time.
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>>121426453
>>121426878
Jezzails pls
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>>121426878
>1% chance for engineer to spawn with a doomrocket
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>>121426453
Giant rats.
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>>121427149
Hitscan rats no thank you
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>>121426453
Doomwheels are already in game, just let us fight them now
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>>121426453
Stormfiends.
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So are there any levels that you can cheese with bots on NM? People were talking about a White Rat exploit that breaks spawns in the last thread.
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>level 18
>4 green dualswords
>2 blue longbows
>1 blue trueflight longbow
>3 green hagsbane bows
>2 green swiftbows
>1 green longbow
>7 total other non-whites
S T O P P L E A S E
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>>121425594
Don't forget rats hitting you trough walls. Granted you can hit back but fuck it either way.
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>nightmare enemy below
>say we should try to go as fast as possible so we get less ambushes
>no one says anything
>we have a pretty decent run
>get to the finale with barrels, dwarf and myself (BW) are bleeding out
>kruber and WH go start to do the barrels and don't try to cover us as we need healing
>dwarf and i die
>ask them why they wouldnt cover us
>"DUDE WE NEED TO GO FASTER" someone says on voicechat
>"JUST GO FASTER"
>saltz spams chat "go faster" 7 times
>saltz dies
>they all 3 votekick me

jesus christ what the fuck man
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>play Dwarf exclusively
>try out Elf
>join Wizard's Tower run
>room that is usually filled with gold coins is now a woodland scenery

You know, it might be unoptimized and buggy as shit, but you gotta admit that the game is full of neat little things and attention to detail.
>>
So what's the verdict?

If only this or l4d was allowed to exist, which would people play for the next year before dropping them?
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>>121428376
l4d is a better game but this is fresh enough that I'd go with it
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>>121428376

l4d because it offered versus mode, a more stable launch, dedicated servers and fewer bugs
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>5 whites to make one green
>5 greens to make one blue
>5 blues to make one orange
>you have to fuse only (insert color here)s of whatever weapon type you want the end result to be in order to have a 100% chance to get something you like
>if you want it to be a specific weapon type, you need 125 white (weapon type)s
>one run = 20-30 minutes on average
>20 x 125 minutes = 42 hours rounded up
>42 hours for 125 whites, only a percantage of which will be weapon types you actually want
>forty-two hours for 125 drops, a percentage of which will be salvage fodder lest you chance fucking your reforges up
>forty two hours for a chance at one orange drop that might not even be a weapon type you like
>forty two hours for an orange that has the potential to just rot in your inventory eternally since skills make the weapon
>there are only 3-4 good skills on any given weapon type from a pool of 10 skills or so
>3 3/10 chances that gradually decrease as you land good skills (30%, then 20%, then 10%, which is a 0.6% chance to get all good skills)
>even if you get good skills on a orange weapon that you actually like, you have to do another fucking RNG roll on the skills themselves to determine how potent the skill is
>FORTY ONE HOURS FOR A CHANCE AT GETTING A ORANGE WEAPON THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE ONE YOU WANT, THAT IS HIGHLY UNLIKELY TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE GOOD SKILL, AND SO-SO TO HAVE POTENT SKILLS
>and THEN there's upgrading costs
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>>121428280
were they those faggots with "Cat" in their name by any chance

those guys are fucking cancer
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Are these the best possible draco pistols?
Channeling runne 20%
Regrowth 3-7%
Stability 10%

If you aren't educated yet: http://www.vermintidedb.com/equipment/weaponstrait.php
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>>121428280
>caring about ambushes
ambushes are fucking easy to plough through without getting hit. why don't you git gud?
you deserved that kick
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Cata Well Watch anyone?
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>>121429816
NA or EU
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>>121430203
NA. Can play BW or Elf best.
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>>121428885
>add a "reroll slot" for X amount of gems and boom you're done
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Was just cruising through some normal maps with a pal while he learned the mechanics and we observed this phenomenon.

Hadn't thought much of all the elf shit-talking here. Just /vg/ paling around like they do. Usually a different friend of mine plays the elf and gives a good account of himself, but this time we played with a pub and this old boy took us for a ride. Started plonking away at the storm vermin patrol with his basic bow without a care in the world. What a time to be alive.
>>
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>>121430927
>1299 damage
>on normal
what
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>>121429216
Usually, doubleshot is better than Channeling Rune 20% mostly because you usually swap to a melee while a weapon is cooling down past the danger zone, but I don't know if it's the same for someone not playing BW. It's pretty good, though. Might be better with Bloodlust than Regrowth, however.
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>Knight rushes past a horde and lets everyone else fucking die

fucking fuck
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>>121411373
>Using virus ridden software

Enjoy your botnet.
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Why are there so many fucking candles in such unreachable places? Are they imbued in magic and take years to run out or something?
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>>121432872
It's magic, ain't gotta explain shit.
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>>121428294
Ah, so the Wizard is showing you what you want to see?
I noticed the forest once but I always go Dwarf or Kruber and I get the gold coins or some pretty backyard.
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>that one faggot who talks into his microphone and commands everyone
>we only have to defend one ward!

>anyone with a fucking brain knows that causes stormvermin to swarm the shit out of the final ward

Nothing makes me abandon a game faster than Commander Incompetent
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>>121433306
If you can't deal with stormvermin, you're pretty worthless.
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>>121433439

So what you're telling me is that I should be responsible for dealing with all Stormvermin and thus carry my team through the incompetence of some dumb fuck with a microphone? No thanks fag.
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>>121433306
But 1 ward is the easiest way to do it.
>>121433491
If you can't do it then it sounds you're the incompetent one.
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>>121433306
Can play it by ear. Got cata by sacrificing wards and a player and throwing 2 bombs with AoE str pot. If you have the cheese you have the cheese...
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>>121433306
>played a bunch of mixed maps on nightmare
>have good runs and good pubs, shit loot as always
>decide that i'll try a Horn of Magnus on nightmare
>join in a game with a level 44 empire soldier, a level 60 or so mage, and a level 50 or so elf who is the host
>game goes fine and i'm really just messing around a bit
>everyone is skipping buff potions and not using them so naturally I quaff three speed potions on the roof and run around lobbing bombs
>accidentally down myself
>get to the lift
>decide i'll turn on VoIP to see what happens
>hear a nasally guy over the mic complaining about me
>get to the roof
>downed by nothing somehow
>empire soldier dies in the ammo room somehow
>way watcher being asshurt
>tells us that he'll go blow the horn and we'll all stand on the beam
>tell him the beam is for gays
>"you're not a gay, are you elf?"
>starts a kickvote
>bomb everyone with two incendiary grenades because of senior engineer perk
>downs at least two of them
>kicked
it was funny but now I remember why I don't even play horn of exploits
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>>121433561

>your team died due to their own incompetence so it's your fault

le ebin shitpost bruh

>>121433575

There's only so much one person can do to carry a team. You can only move so far away from them before you're basically naked in the breeze for specials. It also doesn't help if the team has picked up two bombs and neither person who has them actually uses them in any capacity.

They honestly expect to toss those bombs at the last minute when skaven are already crawling up their ass. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Personally I don't like rolling dice to determine if the last 20 minutes I spent hacking through rats was a waste of time or not. I like to rely on guarantees and things that work in my favor. When the wards are up the rats are split up. When the 3/4 wards are down the rats all swarm together. That is not a reliable plan and yet people claim it's "the easiest way to do it."
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>>121432328
>>Knight
Bretonnian dlc confirmed
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>>121434169
The easiest way is always relative to your situation. I feel for you, man. Luckily I managed to snare enough friends to play with me and we run as a concrete four.
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I just got something called a Lichebone trinket. It says that it protects against curses. What exactly does it do?
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>>121435438
http://www.vermintidedb.com/equipment/trinkets.php
>While equipped, you are allegedly protected against curses. note: this increases your character's health under the effects of grimoires. How much is still unconfirmed.
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>>121429161
not sure, i don't think so though. they didn't seem to have any obvious connection to each other till they started harassing me
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>>121435538
I just tested it and it seems like it reduces the health penalty on a grim by half.
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>friends bought this game to play together
>literally all they do is grind magnus tower
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>>121435990
Holy fuck
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>>121435990
for just you or the whole party? Because ho shit
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>>121436914
Just you. Still nice though.
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>>121429260
it's a team game, people get hit and end up needing healing
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>>121437590
>people get hit
so you admit you get hit? well then, get some skill, pleb
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do stormvermin have a chance to not be affected by push or something? I swear it just does nothing like a fifth of the time.
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>>121438227
from my experience they can't always be staggered so be ready to block if you see them winding up

better to get poked by clan rats than to take a hit from a storm vermin
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>>121438306
It doesn't seem to me to be hyper armor/linked with a specific part of a wind-up, but maybe that's just latency.
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>Takes some skill, missing all of them like that.
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>>121438408
>WATCH NEXT TIME DWARI, I'LL SHOW YOU HOW ITS DONE
>misses also
Seriously guys, the ogre cant be this hard to hit, stop throwing them when he's jumping.
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>>121429216
noice. my pair has knockback instead of stability, but same otherwise
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>>121436914
It leaves you at 6 and a half health bars with two grims as opposed to 4 without it.
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Useable or crap? (its the only orange I have at the moment for WH)
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>>121438948
Garbage. You are better off with literally anything else.
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Do red hats look cooler than orange ones?
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>>121438948
Bloodlust is ok, but everything else is shit.
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imminent rape
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>>121439462
>Everyone except the elf

What a twist!
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>>121438948
it's okay. keep using it until you get another rapier/zwei with better perks
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those pistols any good?
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>>121439462
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I.. I want to fuck a skaven
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>>121439650
Dobson? What the fuck man?
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>>121439765
She's ready for you anon.
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>>121439765
>>121439954
You guys are freaks.
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>>121439765
You are not alone.
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>>121439786
I want answers, not questions.
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>>121440124
Plz do not inflate the Witch Hunter.
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>>121440103
Why is Packmaster so cute?
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>>121440103
>kerillian talks all that shit because underneath all that leather she has no figure whatsoever
>for some reason that arouses me more
>you will never fuck the cockyness out of her lightning-tier ass while she stifles moans with that accent
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>>121439650
>>121440124
Haste is a decent skill for brace but nothing else there really contributes much.
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do str pots affect ranged weapons
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>>121440513
Why even live?
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>>121440713
Yup
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>>121439650
that's totally fine. reduced spread, extra ammo, and a heal would be my favs tho
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Anyone here have examples of 'perfect' exotics with ideal traits with the maximum possible roll?
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>>121440713
they affect everything, which is why you should use them before throwing your bombs at the ogre
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>>121440765
that would be pretty subjective anon

most perks are decent. unless you got increased zoom and reduced spread on an aimhacks bow or something useless like that, don't worry about it
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>get split up from the group
>suddenly feel the hook around your neck, you drop your weapon, cold metal spikes digging into your flesh as you're dragged back into a pack of skaven
>you hear them hissing and laughing around you, dim red eyes in the darkness looking down on you as the hook tightens
>you await death, but it never comes
>instead you can smell thier sour, hot breath on your face
>dozens of hard, calloused little paws ripping off your trousers, thier claws scratching your legs as the cloth and armor tears away
>you feel something hot and very wet try to repeatedly poke between your asscheeks
>you feel the rats vile seed running in rivulets down your thighs, and a sudden flaring pain as it penetrates you
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>>121439525
The other living guy carrying us on his back was a BW.
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>>121385432
The speak in a cockney accent you pleb. They're suppose to be like a massive horde of football hooligans come to just ruin everything and have a good time.
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>>121441780
dude that's gay
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>>121368797
Three Gotrek Gurnissons.
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Pic related.
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>>121419359
In old rogue trader, they were called hrud and were really not very defined as they were just a background race. And them being space skaven was coin3d by the warhammer players as eldar, orks and Squats were space elves, space orcs and space dwarves.

However, Hrud have been retconned twice and now If the last thing about them I read is revalent they are kind of like Dr Who Aliens that generate a time warp bubble around them and kill their enemies by having them age to death.


...this by the new hack writers and management who thought making the warhammer world explode because sales were low and they wanted to create Age of Sigmar.


Before Hrud were basically evil Jawas...dkaven in hooded robes and carrying shotguns.
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>>121396962
Stormvermin are elite soldiers that are bred to be tougher, trained and wear full plate armor and have swords and halberds...

That all costs time and money, why wouldn't you send the poor and weak...which really are just extra mouths to feed and loosing them will give you more room and food for the higher Caste/Class?
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>>121383950
Rememer, in LOTR and Warhammer, Elves are ageless and can persue hobbies, trades, crafts, martial arts and other skills for hundreds of years and thus is always better at making stuff than humans because they have decades or centuries of experience doing it so they do things faster and better, to Her, human made health potions is basically shit compared to the type of herbs elves use and the refined way they brew them like fine wine. She even makes funof human beer calling it sludge.

I'm not trying to be an elf cheer leader, but it's the reasoning why Legolas was ridiculesly OP in the Peter Jackson movies.

God damn it, now I wish Elves were real...I bet yhey make such mind blowing coffee, that it gives human erections and cures the common cold or something.
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>>121348571
>>121348621
I'm pretty sure the conflag staff does friendly fire. Can someone else confirm?
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>>121384515
Warhammer is a war game where players get models of plastic and metal toy soldiers, build them, paint them and then fight battles by rolling dice...wuth some elements of tactics and strategy involved there are tournaments to play for trophy's and cash and one such tournament was a global event where players mailed in their results to GW. GW generally hates the results because the good guys usually win and we can't have good guys winning can we? Funny thing is, they did these tournaments in the past and respected the results like the 3rd war for Armageddon, but after that GW just picked the cannon ending the way they saw fit and also had a practice to make the rules for unpopular models to get better in hopes to increase sales, and new products were always over powered until the next new model came out, or an army book rewritten.
.

Also there are many who are fans of Warhammer fantasy and 40K just by reading novels...I read Warhammwr books for ten years before ever starting an army. I mostly preferred the small side games like Mordheim, Necromunda, Blood Bowl and Warhammer Quest, but when GW went public the executives axed all of these games because the player didn't have to spend hundreds to play so that was a no no.
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>>121441792
What was their name?

>>121447769
Only M1 does FF. M2 does not.
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>>121413526
Admittedly, for the Empires State Military Empires favor Handguns, Crossbows are actually the bread and butter for the Empire, cheaper to maintain and feed and can shoot slightly faster.

Empire State Archers are starting to be rare, mostly common in the poorer or more forrested border provinces but they are often used as back up to Handguns or Crossbows and there are even elite units of Huntsmen who are basically snipers with a bow.

Empire Civilians can often get their hands on handguns and pistols but it's mostly wealthier people who have personal firearms or body guards with handguns.you might see the odd hunter, sailor or coachman use a blunderbuss, or rifleled handgun but crossbows and yes, bow are more common for hunting and self defence. For commoners.
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>>121427149
I would love to seeJezzails...but a sniper that downs a hero in one hit might cause people to rage quit the game, especially if there are multiples.


It would cause players to scan the roofs more...maybe instead of a random special, some skaven should be a unique special to certain maps and locations that only one spawns.

Imagine after blowing the gate in HOM and players have to rush to heal and then seek cover in the middle because of a Jezzail sniper is on one of the roof tops?

I'd also like to see a mission where we have to stop a skaven "bomb cart" from destroying another hidehout location and the "bomb" is a Hell pit abomination.
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>>121426453
Maybe have another block of infantry like a StormVermin patrol, but instead of being armored and do lots of damage, it's plague monks and they are just armed with common clan rat weapons but take at least four weak hits to kill and have a minor gas distortion effect up close like a globe.
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>>121427341
I can see this, sonce they have random giant rats running around...having a swarm aytack the players would be pretty scarry and freak people out, even if they don't do much damage. Just have it be a four by four grid of them moving like a carpet and treat it like a storm vermin patrol that you try to avoid or have them in radom tooms so lone heroes opening doors ahead of the group will get fucked up.


Anybody play Legend of grimrock 2 and know of the ratmen in that game?
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>>121427478
Thingis would it be fair as a random special or as a mini boss fight?

Needs to be in an open space and I have to assume being ran overit should be an auto down, so melee characters would want to wait untill it crashes into a wall and tries to turn around...it also has guns to dhoot at people.


Even though our four heroes are "heroes" i feel that a single doomwheel would wreck them.

Whats cool about vermintide is that it feels "realistic" about the players power level, even on the table top a rat ogre can be taken fown by common empire doldiers with halberds and handguns but usually you want to hit thise things with cannons or have magic cast or heroes with magic weapons with a bixy guarx of full plate wearing greatsword users.
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>>121428294
Did you see the one with the witch hunter crucified and burned at the stake?

That's a weird desire for Salt to have...unless he's dreaming of justification to kill the grey wizard for being a heretic.
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>>121428376
I prefer Vermintide, I love Warhammer, but talking to other players who have never heard of Warhammer but like the game...even as is woth the bugs here and there and the power gamers whinning about loot, I still like this game because I get to swing a two handed hammer and smash four enemies at once breaking limbs shatteri g bones and caving in heads and then follow up with another swing that sends their screaming corpses flyin the air, one skaven spinning off like team rocket ou into space.

The maps and the characters and the weapobs are beutiful and really get me in the mood to break out my renfaire gear from the attick and have a tankard of mead and polish my broadsword and tune my lute when waiting for players to fill a pub nightmare server while sitting at my desk in my poofy 15th century german clothes.
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>>121450702
The maps are shit. They need alternate routes and destructable walls. The end of Enemy Below on a mapwide scale or player directed pathing through sacrificing bombs. Would be GOTY for sure.
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>>121432328
Krubber is just an enlisted state soldier and earned his rank of seargent, instead of buying it through money or being tge son of somebody influential. Nobody mentions he's a knight. In fact I think they mention his family are poor farmers.
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>>121417782
>literal hardest map in the game
>easier than wheat

I never had that much problem on wheat, wizards tower and wells are a lot harder mainly due to scrubs.
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>>121432872
Well, thats hollywood set designer logic, but...there are such thing as magic candles.

In days before electricity lighting was were your fireplace is or where you plonk a candle or two.
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>>121434797
Please don't tease me...but realiztcally trying to get around how Bretonnian honor forbides range combat as fishonorable might be a problem...maybe best solution is to have an escort mission to travel with a bretonnian knight to another allied safe house...the npc bot is armed with a great sword and sticks close to the cart..he says racist and sexist and anti technology things and we all win.
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>>121439661
Oh Sigmar, please! My penis can only take so much...tell me, is there a part two?
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>>121442052
It's also bestiality.
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How do I contribute as elf? I have no problems doing my part as any of the other characters, but im pretty clueless what to do as elf.

Melee aoe against swarms isn't that great, ranged aoe compared to drakefires/wizard isn't either. Handguns are better for sniping.

So what is it, that elf excels at and what weapon combinations are the best?
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